Clinton’s Context

All the voters should vote before any election is over and all votes should be counted.

Somebody save this woman from herself.
If the Dem. Party wasn’t at stake, it would be less worrying.

The BHO camp is pathetic. On a situation, they could have easily show a better side of human nature, to take a high ground and to show some compassion, before Memorial Day. They could easily said – no big deal and let it go. This would probably have had won back 5% of HRC supporters, which would be a very good start. Now you further alienated 5% of HRC supporters, and reaffirmed those who will not vote for this phony in the general election.
In their typical style, they make character assassination.
RFK stayed in a democratic primary without gaining nomination in June when he was assessinated, later than May (at the same time, HRC has been called or declared to quit or out of race since Iowa).
Which part is incorrect, and which part in not factual?
Why you guys cannot take a high road?
It is BHO who preaches ‘New Kind of Politics”, “Hope”, “Change”. Do you call this kind of character assassination by BHO camp “Hope” and “Change”?

I guess it’s only a distraction if Obama says so.

With no malintent, HRC referenced an historic example poorly. In trying to game the situation, Axelrod and Co. deliberately exploited the tragedy. Is this what Unity smells like? Does Axelrod care if the Kennedys have this cycling through the news all weekend?

Obama can not be trusted. Because he makes too many boneheaded “mistakes” – in fact mis-judgments.

The election is not over. Both candidates will not reach the amount of delegates needed. Hillary will win the popular vote. Then should not the superdelegates pick Hillary for the nominee? She has the states to win and the white working class voters and is more likely to beat John McCain. Many Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee.

Scooper; NOTE THAT HILLARY’S VOTE TALLY EXCLUDES CAUCUS STATES THAT OBAMA WON.
If she cares so much about people’s votes, why is she ready to ignore Iowa etc.?

Don’t worry… No one will try to hurt Obama.
He is protected by Hamas.

It’s not fair to count the votes in caucus states because Hillary didn’t do well in those states. They did count when Bill ran of course and I don’t remember the Clinton’s crying a river of tears like in this race.

As TIME reports, she said the same thing in March to a TIME reporter, clearly in the same context:
TIME: Can you envision a point at which–if the race stays this close–Democratic Party elders would step in and say, “This is now hurting the party and whoever will be the nominee in the fall”?
CLINTON: No, I really can’t. I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn’t wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual.

fool me once, that was another election before George Bush.

The Bobby Kennedy comment was in the follow-up to the question about the drawn out process “hurting the party”. Her answer, when taken IN CONTEXT, is a response to the time frame of this race going into June or further. I don’t think she’s waiting for anyone to be killed…heck, they are both targets with how divisive this has been. Their is a reason they both have security.
The Democratic Party has historically proven itself strong enough to bounce back from even greater tragedies than HRC staying in the game until one of them has the number of delegates needed to be the nominee, and/or FL and MI are settled, or it is decided at convention. Who can deny that the most notable event our Party has endured is of course, the 1960 convention? We united after that, and will survive this too.
Those that are spouting concerns about “party unity” may want to study the Democratic Party’s history. “Unity” will happen when the process is allowed to play out and be completed…it always does. Strip HRC and her supporters of the right to complete the process though, it could be a whole new, and perhaps final chapter for the Democratic Party. If you want “Unity” start with “civility.”

The Bobby Kennedy comment was in the follow-up to the question about the drawn out process “hurting the party”. Her answer, when taken IN CONTEXT, is a response to the time frame of this race going into June or further. I don’t think she’s waiting for anyone to be killed…heck, they are both targets with how divisive this has been. Their is a reason they both have security.
The Democratic Party has historically proven itself strong enough to bounce back from even greater tragedies than HRC staying in the game until one of them has the number of delegates needed to be the nominee, and/or FL and MI are settled, or it is decided at convention. Who can deny that the most notable event our Party has endured is of course, the 1968 convention? We united after that, and will survive this too.
Those that are spouting concerns about “party unity” may want to study the Democratic Party’s history. “Unity” will happen when the process is allowed to play out and be completed…it always does. Strip HRC and her supporters of the right to complete the process though, it could be a whole new, and perhaps final chapter for the Democratic Party. If you want “Unity” start with “civility.”

Hillary was stating tht RFK stayed in the race until June but he was then assasinated before he could be elected and Bill Clinton did the same. I cannot understand the public not being able to understand her statement. She should stay in the race until the primaries are finished. It doesn’t take a college graduate to know what she was refering to. Of course Axelrod is a pain in the neck and a stab in the back like Richardson, Biden and others. They feel if Obama wins they can get a position in his administration. However, that is not going to happen because he will not win the election. What she should do if she’s smart is declare herself as an independent on the ballot because he is not going to win in WVA or KY. The claim they will not vote black. Plus there are he big battleground states she won that he may not win but McCain will. The superdelegates better think before they choose instead of crying later.

Anders Scooper, I don’t understand your before G.Bush comment. The Clinton’s didn’t complain about the caucus system then, nor before this nomination process, so why complain how unfair it is now ?

Senator Clinto has nothing to apologize for. RFK won the CA primay in June 1968 and I voted for him. Of course, I was devastated he was assinated as I was when his brother, President John Kennedy, was assinated. But, you can’t change history.
THERE IS NO REASON TO RUSH THIS PROCESS. If it takes into the convention to select the Party Nominee, so be it. The most important issue is that ALL Democrats and only DEMOCRATS be involved in the process. When all is said and done, the Democratic Party will have a nominee we can all support if ALL the votes are counted.

I am not a fan of hers, but I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt as her poorly stated point is clear. Similar to the reference to polling data, where it could have been implied that hard working white workers go for her over Obama. None of us know the future and polling data alters over time. Real democrats do not fight real democrats. Agree to disagree and move on! No matter who comes out on top it is your party, your year…

Get a grip, people, and stop trying to slander Senator Clinton. The only reason she brought it up was to reference the date of Bobby Kennedy’s primary contest, which had run into June. Bobby Kennedy was obviously campaigning when he was assassinated and that was in JUNE.
The only reason this is even an issue is because the Obama campaign egged on the media with their first statement they issued about it saying the following:
“Sen. Clinton’s statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
Bobby Kennedy JR has already denounced what the Obama campaign has done and said he knows Senator Clinton did not mean anything other than the date when she referenced it.
This is clearly another smear campaign being run by Obama & friends to take away from the fact that she wiped the floor with him in WV & Kentucky and will do so in Puerto Rico and that she leads him in the important swing states in the polls for the general election, while Obama loses to McCain in those same states. He’s desperate and scared. If he and his campaign really thought he could win this nomination, he wouldn’t have said a word about this or started yet another smear campaign.

Those words from Hillary opened up wounds I have never knownn. I have moved from disgust with her and the Hildebots to the deepest pity and shame for this country. This is probably the saddest day of my life.
Please someone get psychological help for Hillary before all the rest of us end up needing it.
Superdelegates, please end this race. First there was Huckabee, now there’s Hillary. So, so sad. So, so sad.
Obama ’08!

Never mind that it’s offensive for her to think an assassination will give her the presidency…but to invoke RFK’s assassination at a time when Ted Kennedy is fighting for his own life is just indefensible!
I’m a Hillary Supporter and I have to say, she needs to apologize BIG time for hurting the Kennedys like this.
I’m demanding that she reconsider her continuing her campaign if the only thing she is wishing for is an Obama assassination. I cannot, will not defend her on this.

Obama campaign tried to get big deal of out this so all the network station will discuss about this and to gain more superdelegates. OB is going to alienate her supporters not voting for him in GE. Why the media and OB campaign try to push her out? Are they afraid OB is not going to win the nominee? They also try to speculate about VP position so that her supporters are not going to donate her campaign and give up on her.

If Clinton is looking to suggest that a long primary doesn’t hurt the party, she sure picked the worst possible example. The hostility during that campaign tore the party apart, Nixon cruised to victory, and the Democrats took decades to recover. Is that really the parallel she wants to draw?

The bottom line is even if Obama loses the GE he still has to right to run, he won the nomination by the agreed upon rules and deserves his chance. If democrats decide to vote in large numbers for McLame then we deserve what we get, more war, more debt, more aid for the wealthy, no affordable healthcare, a larger divide between rich and poor, all the things that are making america great.

its a curious statement that was not taken out of context by the media….
But!!!! I dont think it came out the way that mrs Clinton wanted, and she also quickly restated her comment, so everyon, dont try to make it an issue…i support Obama, and I know this is a slip of the tounge that shares similarities to threats of Obama…..I know alot of people who fear for obama’s life….they feel his candidacy is that of a john f kennedy-esque energy and saying the word “assassination” from his opponent, looks bad…..but I know that it was a slip of the tounge
on to more important things

Anybody who knows the history she’s referring to that Bill Clinton’s race was sewn up BEFORE June. SHe said what was in her mind to say. We know she is smart, thoughtful and ready from day 1 right? So obviously she knew exactly what she was saying.

Hillary Clinton should know better.I cannot belief that a sane person should go to that ridiculous extend because of desperation for power.Forget it,till 2008. You have nailed your coffin. GO OBAMA the peoples choice

Anders – Maybe if you keep saying it, it will finally start showing up in the polls. Sadly for you, the most recent polls are showing people coming around to Obama.
This gaffe will only help. Clinton and McCain are the same political creatures, cut from the same cloth. If her supporters are going to support McCain then there really is no point in giving a damn about them because that just means they never really wanted anything different in the whitehouse except their “brand” of washington insider.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, defended her remarks in a telephone interview Friday evening. “I’ve heard her make that argument before,” Mr. Kennedy said, speaking on his cell phone as he drove to the family compound in Hyannis for the holiday weekend. “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.”
Mr. Kennedy said he has been traveling and had not seen the video or read Mrs. Clinton’s comments, but said his support of Mrs. Clinton has not wavered.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2…/index.html?hp

Here’s the link to the full interview which is much longer than the clip about why she’s remaining in this race. She is well spoken but incredibly calculating and coy… I can’t believe she says anything without some form of strategy. I think it’s impossible for her on a molecular level to accept defeat and that makes for a very sociopathic individual.

SUsan said: It’s obvious Hillary was using June, 1968, as an example of a long primary season, and not some veiled threat of “anything could happen”.
Most likely you are right bu still she could have simply said that 1968 campaign also lasted till June. Why did she have to mention the assassination? It had nothing to do with her argument and yet she did mention it. Also, assumin it was a gaffe, as an intelligent person she should have realized that what she said was very offensive and apologize properly.

Stephanie: Obama campaign tried to get big deal of out this so all the network station will discuss about this and to gain more superdelegates.
Are you kidding me? Obama has taken the high road here stating that it was “unfortunate” she made these comments. He has basically tried to protect her from the press. Are you delirious?

“The press will do ANYTHING TO MAKE HILLARY LOOK BAD. Obama has had a free ride. This election process and media coverage has been a joke.”
jclampet do you wear pink colored glasses?
I used to liked and admire HRC, but her distractive and negative entitlement attitude totally turned off. Over time she more and more embraced the mean-spirited style alias Karl Rove, as a result my husband and I are suffering from severe Clinton fatigue.
There was a time I would have voted for her in a NY minute, but now, anything but her.

ben watson-Obama is not causing the Dem to be devided. Check yourself. Its is Hillary and some but not all of her supporters.

Well, at least we don’t have to talk about Hillary forcing her way onto the ticket anymore. And no, I don’t believe she meant it in the worst possible way, but it was an appallingly stupid thing to say, and her typically tepid apology — well, her stated regrets — probably should’ve included Senator Obama. And even John McCain.
But that, of course, would have been too much to ask. And just for the record, when you base your entire campaign on the idea that Something Really Bad Might Come Out About Your Opponent, it’s moderately dishonest to completely ignore the more horrific subset of that strategy.
At any rate, she’s done.

Well, at least the Hillary people take Obama seriously now.
It’s good to be president.

She denies she meant “Obama might be assassinated”? But what other explanation could there be? The date of RFK’s death has no bearing on whether the primaries should continue into June. Hillary has clearly crossed the line. Inciting racial and gender resentments is bad enough, but possibly inciting assassination is truly outrageous. The supers need to get off their cowardly butts and end this thing now.

Again how did her defense about staying in the race get turned into an assassination on Obama? There is more SPINNING here than there is on Wheel of Fortune. Believe what you want to believe this isn’t what she meant.

This is sooo blown out of context!!!!
Lets twist words and make her look bad… if you watch the video you can CLEARLY see she was saying that Bobby Kennedy fought for the nomination through June UNTIL he was assassinated, and was making a point about nominating process taking TIME. Truly people are WE voting for POTUS or the Media?
Also funny how Obama’s camp are claiming she is the one splitting the party apart, but they are the first ones to pile on top with their nasty-ness and hateful words. This make Mr.Obama as much as UNITER as George Bush. Pleeze….

4 Stories on ABC’s site in one day about this NONISSUE????
JUST HOW MUCH IS THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN PAYING ABC PER STORY???

Exactly what has HRC done to “unite” the party???? Anyone…anyone…anyone

She said it ,what a stupid thing to say in these times in this country She can only hope her only chance to get on the ballot.This woman is sick and needs help big time.For God sakes get her off this road NOW.

Oh good grief. Bobby Kennedy won the California primary, then gave a winning speech that night… after which he was assassinated. I know that comes to MY mind whenever I think about it. I see him giving the speech, going through the kitchen and being shot. It was awful, but it forever linked his assassination to his win in California. I’d hate to say that Obama supporters are looking for another reason to hate Hillary, but looks like they’ve found a way. BTW, she did NOT say she was staying in the race in case Obama was assassinated. No sane Obama supporter should even suggest such a thing.

I am at a loss to understand why, if Sen. Clinton’s point was that previous primaries have extended well into June, did the part of response invoking Kennedy only include that he was assassinated in June? Wouldn’t been more direct to say that Kennedy campaigned into June during 1968 primaries? Or at least say that Kennedy campaigned in June before being assassinated? Candidates are fallible but for a presidential hopeful as astute and politically savvy as Sen. Clinton, the lack of expressed focus in her response is disappointing.

My comment is posted under the wrong name, Jezee. I am NOT a Hillary supporter as the Teresa comment indicates. What is wrong with this site? I AM NOT SUPPORTING HILLARY.

Well, Clinton has been running around screaming crazy stuff for the past week now. It was only a matter of Time before she said something that was over the top. SHe is like a school girl who throws a temper tantrum because she is not getting any attention…
Sorry, was the sexist? Its hard to tell nowadays with everyone walking on egg shells.

Mary,
Once again, the same thing happens to Obama all the time. Like the distortion of his “Tiny” comments by the Clinton fanatics…
The point is, don’t throw BS that you can’t eat.

Robert Kennedy Jr. issued the following statement this evening:
“It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband’s 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”
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Hillary – open mouth insert foot!
For someone so bright-she is really DUMB!
Why would she even say anything about an assasination – when Senator Kennedy -and the nation just received the awful news about him having a brain tumor – less than 2 days ago?
Why would she say this when she knows this country is sensitive about the Kennedy’s and then to add insult to injury – would any person campaigning for the Presidency even mention the word assasination? With as much distress the country is in.
SHAMEFUL HILLARY – SHAMEFUL

Vickie, How would you feel, and what would you think, if you were running for President and you’ve already been receiving threats (plus all of the assassination rumors circulating through the Internet, Huckabee’s comments, etc.) and you’re on the verge of getting the nomination, and then you hear your opponent say (in the context of discussing why she is staying in the race) that Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June?

Hillary’s bazaar behavior is quite disturbing. It’s also getting tiresome. If this is not ended soon Democrats might very well lose this contest in November.
Talk about privilege. What makes Hillary Clinton so privileged that even when she loses, people want to reward her? Is it because she is part of a dynasty? [this is America and a democracy, not some 19th century feudal kingdom in Europe] Is it because she is a woman? [Well, I thought feminism is about equity and equality, not special privilege because you're sex] Is it because she a white woman, running against a black man? [Well, to me her white skin privilege might have earned her some of the votes due to the racist bias by some voters. So, even her wins have been tinged by that. So, it would be interesting to consider if she would have gotten all these votes in West Virginia and Kentucky if Obama was not her contestant. By the way those white woman who support her are not free from racist attitudes either--i.e. Ferraro. Although, I would say that there is some sexism hurled at her, I don't believe she is losing because of sexism. It laughable to watch she and her supporters use the 'gender and race card' to get their way. Yes, race card. The terms 'race' does not only apply to a non white person, it also applies to a white person].
I consider myself a feminist and a progressive. And although I support Obama, I would go as far as not voting for him if he puts Hillary on the ticket. She should not be paid any consolation prize for losing. It is also preposterous for people to consider paying her debt or giving her anything. In fact, she should not be rewarded for such a tawdry behavior and for her uncompromising attitude towards her own party. The more she stayed in this race, the more I am convinced that she is NOT fit to be a commander in chief.
No body owes Hillary and Bill anything. They should be thankful to the American people for what they achieved. I wish they would just go away–with their dysfunctional family before they turn the whole country into the same type of delusional state.

funny how AFTER THE FACT SHE IS ALWAYS MISQUOTED MIS UNDERSTOOD,,,,SHE SHOULD HAVE USED THIS AS A HEADING FOR HER SIGNS….SHE GETS THE POINT ACROSS DON’T SHE????????

If anyone has denigrated Bobby Kennedy’s memory today, it is Obama and the media. They are both hateful and vile, and may they rot in hell.
This is shameful, using Bobby Kennedy’s death to slander Senator Clinton when everyone knows darn well that she was referencing the fact that when he was killed, it was June and he was still out on the primary campaign trail when it happened. Nothing more, nothing less.
You people are just disgusting.

I listened to her statement three times. Each time I heard her, I found her more and more disgusting.
Her agology was also inappropriate. Is she so devoid of compassion that she had to offer an apology only ‘if’ she offended?
I would have voted for her if she had won. As to her supporters that whine and whimper that everybody is against her, please leave the Democratic Party. Please vote for anybody you want. Follow her where she’s going; but it ain’t a pretty place.
Please leave.

Supporting Clinton now is a sign of mental instability on par with supporting Bush’s war on American values. No excuses, she is trying to derail any chance of an overthrow of the republican stranglehold on the presidency. The people who support her from this day on are void of reason and decency.

How do we know that Hillary “meant nothing” by her “assassination” statement? Because you say so? Or because she says so? Why should I or anyone else trust Hillary? She flat-out lied about Bosnia sniper-fire. The proof is on video in that case.
Why should we trust this proven liar?
Please provide reasons why anyone should trust what Hillary says.

What are you Obama supporters afraid of since you don’t want Fl and MI counted. But his is an all enclusive campaign. Riiiiiiiiiighttttttttt!

This fuss should further convince Blue Collar Americans that Obama’s Campaign is out-of-touch with Mainstream America.
Radical left-wingers are trying to take over the Democratic Party.
They want to whine Rookie U.S. Senator Obama into the White House.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, defended her remarks in a telephone interview Friday evening. “I’ve heard her make that argument before,” Mr. Kennedy said, speaking on his cell phone as he drove to the family compound in Hyannis for the holiday weekend. “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.”
Mr. Kennedy said he has been traveling and had not seen the video or read Mrs. Clinton’s comments, but said his support of Mrs. Clinton has not wavered.
But he added that the protracted fight for the Democratic nomination would only last “two more weeks.”
“The candidate’s going to emerge within the next two weeks, and the party will get behind them,” Mr. Kennedy said.
(http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/clinton-calls-vp-chatter-completely-untrue/#more-5213)

Sam Houston, you must not know how Far Left-Wing McGovern caused long-time Democrats to abandon the Democratic Party in 1972.
You also must be unaware of Reagan Democrats, or the harm caused by nominating Ultra-Liberal Michael Dukakis.
If you think that millions of Blue Collar Hillary Supporters are going to vote for Far Left-Wing Obama, you are only fooling yourself.

USmarine0331,
With reference to your name I guess you are not now in Iraq or plan to stay there for another 100 years or even have any one there; what I am saying is that what ever the differences between Obama and Hillary might be as a democrat I srongly believe that they are much more better than that of MCcain. Let’s all come together for beeter america.

MIguy, Hugo Chavez has already accused the U.S. of planning to invade Venezuela for its oil.
Don’t take my word for it.
Google “Hugo Chavez accuse the U.S. of planning to invade Venezuela for its oil” for yourself.
Also, there was discussion about the U.S. planning to invade Mexico for its oil during the first Arab Oil Embargo.

William wrote: “So the argument that Obama only has highly educated supporters is not exactly very true.”
You may not be highly educated, but you reason as well as anyone in your post.
Hillary ’08

Anyone who thinks that Obama’s plan to negotiate with Islamic radical fundamentalist for Middle Eastern Oil is a better idea than militarily guaranteeing America’s access to Middle Eastern Oil should consider whether they are prepared to give up the American high standard of living.
Under Socialism’s distributive equality principle, America has too much wealth.
Are you really ready to give up your icebox, air conditioners, and to replace your gas or electric stove with a wood burning stove?
What about riding a horse or bicycle, instead of driving a car.
There is a sound reason why the Iraq War is being supported by both Republicans and Democrats.
After all, if Democrats really wanted to end the Iraqi and Afghanistani Occupations, all they really have to do is to vote to cut the U.S. Military funding.

@USMarine: Again, with due respect, your premise is false. The US military cannot guarantee Mideast oil by its presence in the region; in fact, it probably only makes the problem worse. The supposition that our oil supply would be cut off if our military was not there is simply not true.

Sam Houston wrote: “I so much believe that all those that are calling themselve Hillary supporters are just republicans who actally wants to see continuation of Bush policies being run by another man.”
I’ve responded to two of these type of posts in the last week and identified myself and the response was, “oh, I stand corrected. A life long Democrat.”
Why in the world do you think the rest of the country is nutty enough to vote for this Obama guy who all we know about him is he has hope and change and a passel of Marxist associates.
You’re out of your mind if you think anyone but a latte liberal or radical is going to vote for him.
Hillary ’08

Look, those who live by the sword die by the sword.
Remember when Obama misspoke “bittergate” and Hilary suddenly becam Annie Oakley. Did she or her supporters give Obama the benefit of the doubt?
She acually campaigned on “bittergate” went house to house in Pensylvania to drum it hard.
OMG – this lady is so digusting, praying so a fellow Dem to dies just for her presidency!

@USMarine: No offense, but you do not seem to be reading the content or intent of my posts. Take a look over them again; you are ascribing things to me that I did not write. I am not disagreeing with you on the realities of the world. I am disagreeing with you on what appears to be your premise that the US military can guarantee access to mideast oil – or oil anywhere for that matter. Our military is not designed for such a purpose.

Honestly, this frackas is much ado over nothing. To me, she was almost saying that June would be her end-date – not the convention. Basically, lay off until all the primaries are over. So many people seem to hate her so much that they won’t give her the chance to exit gracefully.

@Terri: it’s worse – she only wants to count the Michigan votes that went her way. None that went against her. Seems kind of hypocritical to me for somebody arguing that ‘every vote counts’.

I don’t think the argument that the primaries in ’68 started later matters since the elections are always in November. The problem as floated by the Obama camp and the media has always been that the nominee needs time to prepare for the general. Clinton’s point seems to be that campaigning into June is not unprecedented.

PBS just analyzed If Obama the nominee he would lose in the GE because he did not get popular votes.
Hillary got popular votes right now.

It’s very simple. Regardless of motive, these remarks were, “unfortunate” and “have no place in this campaign”.
Less and less presidential (and now even vice presidential) every day…

Obama supporters are only harming their candidate by making a fuss over this petty issue.
Obama already has a tough time trying to convince Hillary supporters to support his candidancy if he becomes the nominee.
This race has been too bitter.
Obama may become the Democratic presidential nominee, but he won’t win Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, or West Virginia.
The blue collar voters in those states will look upon this fuss as further proof why Obama is too sensitive and weak to be a good commander-in-chief.

Desperate Obama supporters are grasping at straws.

It is truly unprecedented in U.S. history for the media to take such an active, vociferous role in trying to secure the nomination for a candidate, as it has with Obama. Before Iowa, the media was asking “Is Hillary finished?” After her rebounnd in New Hampshire I remember pollster Frank Luntz saying “She just won’t go away.” The media’s assault on Hillary to drive her out of the race is unconsconiable. It’s time for folks in the media to ask themselves the tough questions about why they’ve done such a disservice to the American people by fawning over one candidate and continually scapegoating his rival.

Hillary meant to say what she said and she is very lucky that the Obama people are giving her the benefit of the doubt.
She would have never done this for him if the opposite would have happened.
And in their hatred and anger for having lost this election, Clinton supporters fail even to read this article and be grateful for what the Obama camp is doing for the Clinton camp.
Or maybe this blog is full of republicans spreading deceit and hate.

I think Hillary is driving herself out of the race. I was ready to vote for her after PA if things turned out. She took command of a dire situation. Then, it seems like since around the time she started changing how to win I got the sense she has been taking guidance from her old-school advisers again. Whenever she gets away from that – like NH – she’s fine. Now, with this guidance, it’s only making it more challenging for her politically. She prob. did not have bad motives today – but that was a not-smart statement to make in the midst of a presidential election. Since she said it twice this year – I am thinking it was something given to her by one of her advisers.
Whatever happens – Hillary needs to start over with a whole new staff.

SandyB – Let me get this straight. You are comparing Hillary to Princes Di? Really?
You know what? I don’t know what you mean. You also know what else? I don’t care.
Your candidate committed political suicide tonight. Any other night I would simply deride your shallow choice. But the fact that she invoked Bobby Kennedy’s assassination as a reason to stay in a race she has no chance of winning makes me ill. Your choice to still back her puzzles me.
I am ill just thinking of her motives. What do you feel?

@USMarine,
If you are not going to vote for Obama due to his lefties relationships…
Then you should not vote for Clinton whose husband freed Obama’s lefties relationships…
And you will not vote for CAIN since Bush’s friends are the Saudi terrorists including the Bin Laden family (with whom the Bushes have had a long term friendship)…
So basically you do not have many options…except for the fact that
Obama’s lefties relationships are just that…he did not freed them nor has a long term friendship with them.

A lesson from history?
Becket came back to England but he still would not allow the priests to be put on trial. He also excommunicated some of the priests who supported the King. This made Henry very angry and he shouted, ‘Who will rid me of this priest ?’
Four knights had been listening at the door they thought the king wanted Thomas Becket killed so they went to Canterbury Cathedral where Thomas was praying. There in the Cathedral on 29th December 1170 they murdered Thomas Becket.
Thomas Becket
Thomas Becket was the best friend of Henry II who was king of England. Thomas and Henry did everything together, they went hunting, riding and feasting.
Henry had a problem. He wanted to change the law. At the time any ordinary person who committed a crime such as murder would go on trial and could be sentenced to death. But if you were a priest all you had to say was, ‘I am innocent’, and you would go free. Henry wanted the priests to go on trial but the Pope would not let this happen.
Henry made his friend Thomas Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury, hoping that Thomas would change the law, but Thomas wouldn’t . Henry and Thomas had a big argument and Becket ran away to France. Henry went to France to make peace because he still wanted to be friends with Thomas.
Becket came back to England but he still would not allow the priests to be put on trial. He also excommunicated some of the priests who supported the King. This made Henry very angry and he shouted, ‘Who will rid me of this priest ?’
Four knights had been listening at the door they thought the king wanted Thomas Becket killed so they went to Canterbury Cathedral where Thomas was praying. There in the Cathedral on 29th December 1170 they murdered Thomas Becket.
Henry was very sad when he heard what had happened he did not blame the knights he blamed himself. To show how sad he was , he walked barefoot though Canterbury while some monks whipped his back. Thomas Becket was made a saint and the priests were still not put on trial.

Look, I don’t like her. I don’t trust her motives, I don’t like her stances on the
issues and I believe she is fit to be President the same way I believe Robin Givens is fit to be Heavyweight Champion of the World.
But objectively, you have to know she is done politically. I’m not talking about this election. This goes much, much deeper. She will never get away from this statement. Never.
For the first time in American political history, a candidate stated the only reason she was still involved in the process even though she had no chance of winning was the fact she was hoping the front runner would be murdered.
That is FACT. This is not a surrogate off the reservation that the campaign can disavow. This isn’t Billy Boy beating up an old lady at a Photo Op just because he didn’t like the look of her face. This is Hillary herself, in full Technicolor, saying into the camera that she is hinging a $230 million presidential campaign on the hope the candidate in front of her is brutally murdered like Bobby Kennedy.
These facts are not in dispute. She said them. The video has now gone around the world. You cannot hide from it now, you cannot claim ignorance from it.
If you still back Hillary, you endorse political murder as a means of advancement.
No gray area here. No spin required. In or out. If you still back her, you back murder.
Simple as that.

Davis,
With all due respect, HRC and BHO and much everyone else has drawn historical examples from time to time. Why you take offense really is beyond me. The real idiots are the maniacal supporters who can misinterpet HRC’s statements. Like a signal. I am afrad of that!!

Most Americans don’t care about Obama and helping him to realize his dreams of making history. Change, hope, yes we can…blah…blah..blah. Empty rhetoric and feel good slogans don’t cut it. He claims to be a uniter when he has done absolutely nothing to live up to that moniker. We need someone that is qualified for the position, and he isn’t.

That’s right, Mack. Change the subject. Don’t acknowledge what you already know.
You have no answer for me. You have no answer for yourself.
My post was WAY too close, wasn’t it?

I can see that some of Obama’s supporters love him dearly, although it is irrational to believe that Hillary is capable of wishing for any harm to come to him.

Mack -You may like her, but you can’t stand by that statement.
It’s so bad that I believe she won’t keep her seat in the Senate.
Wrong, am I? Remember, she is in Bobby Kennedy’s seat. Talk about justice.

But Texas, what is the “this” you’re referring to that can’t be spun and can’t be gotten away from, and that everyone should be so offended by?
All she said in her statement to the press today was that the race wasn’t over yet, that many campaigns had lasted into June before they were decided, like her husband’s did in 1992, and that certainly people would remember that Bobby Kennedy was still campaigning in JUNE in his PRIMARY at the time he was assassinated. It was said in the same breath as the discussion about her husband’s primary campaign ending in June 1992. There is no mention of Obama anywhere.
You guys are carrying on as if she had said: “Gee, maybe if I hang around in the race until June I’ll win if Obama gets assassinated like Bobby did.” I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but she didn’t say ANYTHING even REMOTELY close to this! How you guys are reading such a meaning into this is beyond me.
This is just more of Obama pushing his way into statements everybody makes just like the other day when President Bush made his speech in Israel and Obama took such offense by what Bush said when Bush never brought him up either.
Senator Clinton is the one who should be offended for everyone twisting her words to such an extent and for accusing her of saying things she didn’t say. She might even have a good slander suit to pursue with some of the things people are saying about her tonight.

William,
The problem with your answer is that everybody already knows and has already seen everything “bad” about Bill Clinton. And even with that, half of the Democrats in this country have still supported his wife in this primary election.
I can only wonder if the half that now support Obama would still be falling in line if the Michelle Obama tape is released.
I doubt if Bill’s “Sex and Lies” will hold a candle to Michelle’s “Videotape.”
And the “flag pin” omission is just the tip of his unpatriotic iceberg. Have you seen the video of him standing on the stage with all of the other Democratic contenders during the playing of our National Anthem and he is the only one who doesn’t have his hand over his heart? And not to mention all of the charming unpatriotic rantings of his preacher in the pulpit which he sat and listened to voluntarily for 20 years. Reverend Wright’s former military service might be commendable, but former service in the military does not give ANYONE a free pass to say the things he has said.

It is really sad that this seems to be the real reason that she insists staying on when things do not add up.
Power can corrupt utterly and it seems that it has really gotten to the Clintons who will stop at NOTHING(!?!?)

SandyB, BHO dissed the preacher if I remember (W)right, and it’s obvious if the preacher had been ranting about ‘godamm’ American for what, 20 years? surely should be a longer tape. Notheless I agree it was a dump thing to do what Wright did and BHO should have taken steps much earlier. As for holding hand-over-chest, wow, that horse surely has taken a flogging! Does HRC delibertaly lying about the carelessness of the US Military in Bosnia (if there was a sniper that implies carelessness, no?) count as unpatriotic?

HRC just committed political suicide,
no way should she be considered for VP.
It’s over baby !
Republican Mom of 3 whose family will be voting for Obama.

Posted by: Melanie | May 24, 2008 7:19:47 AM
it is the influx of “new” voters bho has brought to the party. nice bunch aren’t they. nothing says third party to me more than listening to these bho people. would love to see hillary go independent. she would get her own supporters and the regan democrats…it would be sweet.

HILLARY VOTERS ARE NOT NEEDED, Obama will do just find, If she steals this i would vote for Mcain

Mark – stop blaming the “Obama campaign” for Hillary’s gaffes. And gaffe is putting it lightly compared to all the motives being assigned (not by the Obama campaign – which has not cast any motives whatsoever).
The comment was stupid at best – especially coming twice. She could have said “RFK was running in June”. Instead, she keeps mentioning “assassination” during a presidential campaign. Not smart and possibly irresponsible given the wackos out there. This is her whirlwind. If you don’t want to blame Hillary then blame her advisers – I see this phrase coming from that cynical lot.

makes you wonder if Obama knows he NEEDS the clinton voters, not the other way around

Posted by: geno | May 24, 2008 8:06:56 AM
sorry, geno, no fear here, just disgust with the party giving him the political affirmative action ride to the nomination. He only won due to the black vote…90% blacks in the primary is hard to beat…the ge will be a whole new game..the rep. will eat him up and spit himout…

So let’s take Clinton’s comment the way she claims to mean it. Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California BECAUSE THE CALIFORNIA PRIMARY WAS HELD IN JUNE. The election calendar was far different then. Her comment was technically accurate, but another example of the Clintons’ self-serving “logic” — twist the facts and select an irrelevant few to make your case, no matter the consequences to the Democratic party. (When that doesn’t work, just lie about it.)
I don’t like being taken for dumb.

No question – she is waiting for sort of ocasion like that.
Or…
somebody works hard to make it happen.
Obama should increase security ASAP.
It always dirt around clintons.
ALWAYS.

I heard the statements to,but you know it was STUPID of her but the messgae is out there now, taking into the number of Clinton associates that are now dead due to there years in the eye of politics I woud not put a thing past this evil wench…She is a sickooooooooo that has been told you LOST.She can’t be told by anyone she is finished,The Clinton name will be worth nothing after this mess is over,I PITY her.She need help………..

People forget that Hillary mentioned this reference twice. Why blamed the media and Obama when she was the one who her mouth? It is her fault.

the dem party that has vocally and tacitly suppoted bho, their affirmative action experiment, will make sure bho gets the nomination.
what they cannot assure, is how people will vote, and what the rep. will throw at him.
Mccain wins big-2008
bho gone from political scene-2008

People forget that Hillary mentioned this reference twice. Why blamed the media and Obama when she was the one who her mouth? It is her fault.
Posted by: Dana | May 24, 2008 10:03:30 AM
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Exactly! Obama didnt force her to say these things.
The Obama camp said the remarks were “unfortunate”, they were.
The Obama camp said they have no place in this race, they don’t.
What did the Obama camp say so wrong? The just stated the truth. Period.

Clinton could have used many other examples of long races that continued up until the convention. The 1968 race started March 12th and the 1992 race started Feb. 18th. Bill Clinton had the nomination wrapped up after he won the New York primary on April 7th, 1992. That RFK’s own son would forgive her this, I don’t understand. It wasn’t even a good historical reference to a “hard fought” race, as he put it.
She said the same thing in a Time Magazine article last March. Obviously, they need to improve their readership. People pay much more attention to live streaming video on the Internet, unfortunately for her.
Jake, you previously wrote a post on why the ‘Bill Clinton didn’t have the nomination wrapped up until June’ statement was misrepresented. Why don’t you speak up instead of just doing a cut and paste of all the quotes!

Add in 1968 and she cited cases where 4 out of the five elections the democrats lost!
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Yikes! I wonder if she realized that?

No want has stop people from voting and no one should kill the other to get the nomination.
Its dissapointing. Its a disgrace to the Clintons.

I am so tired on this Kennedy thing … sounded like anyone that he endorsed is going to be jinxed …one way or the other

Clinton’s poor judgement in mentioning Bobby Kennedy’s assassination at this time disqualifies her do be president. The worst thing she said was at the end of her statement, “I just don’t understand.” You got that right Hillary. We have had 8 years of a president who does not understand things, we do not need you.

Anders Cooper you said:
“I guess it’s only a distraction if Obama says so.”
When did Obama say so?
Is it just me or do make it a habit of making stuff up to justify your Obamaphobia?

Lies…
Wrong,She was repeated this about Kennedy – the third time.
She could become the president! A real nightmare.

Sherry makes a good point about remembering what our ultimate goal is and uniting around the eventual winner. Only one point, the nominee is selectd based on the number of delegates won, so we’ll be sure to unite around Senator Obama when the time comes, right?

Thanks Alice, To my knowledge, noone at this point has the 2210 delegates to win the Democratic party nomination at this point including MI and FL. I do not see how either major candidate can complete this task before the convention in August. It is quite a presumption to assume the undecided delegates will go with the winner of the caucus delegates (Obama) over the winner of the elected delegates (Clinton) and the nationwide popular vote (Clinton). I believe the electoral college case for winning will be made in the coming weeks as I have done in a recent post. The polls will change I am sure, but it does not make any sense to nominate Obama if he is expected to lose the electoral college, while Clinton is expected to win it over McCain. It goes without saying that serious Democrats will support the nominee. What is important is to win in November. If Obama and Clinton were both well ahead of McCain in the electoral college, then sure why not Obama. The issue is, he is behind, and she is ahead. This is a serious issue, that Democrats need to turn our focus on during the coming weeks.

rd said:
“You’re out of your mind if you think anyone but a latte liberal or radical is going to vote for him [Obama].”
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My Response: Are you saying that all of the 16,685,941 Americans who have voted for Barack Obama are either “latte liberals” or “radicals”? (Wow, there must be an awful lot of those in the USA then!)
How exactly do you define “radical” or “latte liberal” anyway? And why do you feel the need to resort to the logical fallacy of “ad hominem” or “name-calling” and using generalizations?
Are you saying that none of those 16,685,941 Americans are hard-working white Democrats?
Mack said:
“I can see that some of Obama’s supporters love him dearly, although it is irrational to believe that Hillary is capable of wishing for any harm to come to him.”
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My Response: How is “irrational” to believe that Hillary is capable of wishing harm to come to Obama. How do you know what goes on in Hillary’s mind. How do any of us know?
After all, some of her own friends or acquaintances have been quoted in the media saying that she is “capable” and “willing” to do ANYTHING to get elected.

Here is Barack Obama’s response (reported May 25th) to Hillary Clinton’s “assassination” statement:
“I have learned that when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here. Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it and I will take her at her word on that”
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I think Barack Obama is more gracious and thoughtful in his response than I would have been. He is more willing to give the benefit of the doubt than I am, or than most people I have ever seen.
Even after all of Hillary’s mean-spirited and untrue statements and statements that could be taken as threats, and her “Sniper-Gate” lies, Barack Obama is still willing to take her at her word, accept her “apology,” and move on, even though she didn’t even apologize to him.
You have to recognize that, at the very least, Barack Obama is showing a high-level of respect towards his opponent.

Why is this even open for debate? It seems the majority of White women and Republicans don’t have a problem with it. (lol) Do they ever? (lol)