By Saira Anees

May 7, 2008 10:59am

Conference Call from Planet Clinton

On a conference call just now, the Clinton campaign explained how they see the world this Wednesday morning.

Any discussions about Sen. Hillary Clinton dropping out?

"No," declared Clinton campaign communications director Howard Wolfson. "No discussions."

Senior strategist Geoff Garin called Sen. Hillary Clinton’s narrow victory in Indiana "a close outcome but an outcome about which we feel very, very good." He said it was "he first time in this race that Sen. Clinton has come from behind to achieve a primary victory."

"These are two states we were supposed to lose," Wolfson said of Indiana and North Carolina.

Wolfson said the additional $6.425 million Clinton loaned herself in the last month — disclosed this morning — was not an indication that her fundraising has lagged, but rather that she is just trying to stay competitive with Sen. Barack Obama’s record-setting fundraising.

The loans, Wolfson said, indicate "Senator Clinton’s commitment to the race and a commitment to being competitive with Senator Obama."

Sen. Clinton’s total $11.425 million in loans to her campaign have now exceeded the $10 million she earned for her book — Clinton had made a point of saying her January $5 million was her money.  So is she not now loaning herself money her husband has earned?

"I dispute the notion that there is a difference between her share of her joint assets and her own money," said Wolfson.. "There is no distrinction between her share of their joint assets and her money. Her money is their share of her joint assets."

Wolfson pointed out that "legally she is entitled to use up to 50% of their joint assets if she chooses….We are scrupulously following the rules."

He added, "I don’t rule out that she will loan the campaign additional resources."

Asked about the fact that pundits have declared the Democratic nominating race to be over — and how that might influence superdelegates — the Clinton campaign pooh-poohed and pish-poshed.

"Thankfully for us the punditocracy does not control the nominating process, voters do," said Wolfson.

Wolfson said that "obviously superdelegates watch TV, they read the newspaper…but in the end I think they are more influenced by electoral outcomes…and arguments about who would be the stronger nominee in November."

Clinton will be stopping by West Virginia for an event this afternoon — the state holds its primary on Tuesday — after which she will be meeting with uncommitted superdelegates later in the afternoon on the Hill. "The goal is to make the case to the superdelegates that Sen. Clinton would be the best nominee," Wolfson said.

The Clinton campaign, which has recently taken a more aggressive position about seating the disputed delegates from Michigan and Florida, conceded that even if those two delegations are seated in full — which is quite unlikely to happen — Clinton will still lag behind Sen. Obama in total delegates.

"If Michigan and Florida are seated fully we estimate we would pick up 58 delegates," said deputy communications dircetor Phil Singer, "putting us within a margin of less than 100 total delegates separating Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton."

But still behind.

-jpt

User Comments

It’s time for Clinton supporters to look forward to November and do the right thing, coalesce behind Obama. This is the only way the Democrats can take the White House. I am sure Obama’s supporters would have done the same if Clinton had the majority of the delegates.
Clinton has to go on a little bit longer to save face and prove that she’s the right choice for VP. Personally, I am all for it. An Obama/Clinton ticket would be unbeatable in November.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Fight on Sen Clinton dont let them push you ot!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

. Im a conservative Democrat I will not vote for a liberal nominee.

Posted by: Carol | May 7, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

agi
unless Obama offers it to her now unconditionally Cliton supporters will not vote for Obama

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Smith No Clinton supporter will ever vote for Obama it will not happen

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

The black racism in the North Carolina win cannot triumph over the nomination process. The Indiana win of a mere 9 counties by Obama out of more than 100 counties cannot triumph over the nomination process. Florida and Michigan must be counted; the remaining states must vote; and the superdelegates must then use their independent judgment to select the best qualified candidate for the presidency and that is Hillary Clinton. The fight for the future of America continues full speed ahead. Rational Democrats need to step up to the plate and make frequent contributions to the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Posted by: crat3 | May 7, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

She loaned herself money to stay competitive with a man who is relying on the funds of grassroots organizers and the people of America. That says a mouthful there.
People are buoying Obama to the Presidency.
The Clintons are buoying the Clintons to the Presidency.

Posted by: Jerome | May 7, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

(AP) – Former Sen. George McGovern, who backed Hillary Rodham Clinton, is urging her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race.
McGovern said Wednesday he has decided to endorse Barack Obama.
After watching the returns from the North Carolina and Indiana primaries Tuesday night, McGovern says it’s virtually impossible for Clinton to win the nomination.
McGovern says he is calling former President Clinton to tell him of the decision and adds that he remains close friends with the Clintons.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Jerome
again No clinton supporter will vote for Obama and he needs us to win so looks like he will lose in Nov

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Agi
Obama is the analogy to Mcgovern Hillary is analogous to Robert F Kennedy

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

What’s done it’s done. Clinton will not win the nomination. I know it’s upsetting to a lot of people but the only choice now is to unite. If we don’t do that, it will be four more years of Bush and a fractured Democratic party for years to come. The stakes are too high. We cannot afford to lose this election.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

But people donating to campaigns (like me $50 to Obama) are an indicator of support. Why is she not getting that support from her base? As far as Obama’s spending – that’s what we want him to do, spend it to win.

Posted by: Lynne | May 7, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Hillary’s narrow win in Indiana changes little or nothing in the overall dynamic of the race. I wish she can realise this including her supporters!

Posted by: Peace | May 7, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Greg
Obama will not be President forget it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Lynne
Obama cannot win in Nov there ar supporters who have given to sen Clinton too you Obama peopel please go away

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Obama will never win in November. Congrats to McCain who will get my vote if Obama wins the nominee.

Posted by: kito11 | May 7, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Kriss K
I hope those western states teach Obama a lesson he is not qualified to be president!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

The “Super-delegates” will start to pore in for Obama.

Posted by: Lookup | May 7, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Is anyone aware that there are more undecided superdelegates than unpledged delegates at this point? All these elections will do is to further polarize the democratic base. Is this what we really want? The math is with Obama. He’s won the most delegates, the popular vote, he’s almost even with superdelegates, and he has won the most states. The people have spoken.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Kito
I say it will be an 70-30 landslide for Mccain over Obama! Im all for it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

This has become absolutely ridiculous with Hillary Clinton. Who is she trying to fool? I cannot even begin to comprehend why she continues to change the rules. To me, that shows a lack of integrity and a lack of respect not only for the Democratic party but also the United States. I don’t see her as a “fighter” anymore; I now see her as a egomaniac who is manipulating the rules to fit her needs.

Posted by: Jordan | May 7, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

agi
we will not honor that Obama is not the clinton supporters nominee period!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

It’s a crying shame how the MSM and pundits allow the Clinton campaign to broadcast lies! Look at the polls, she was NEVER behind in Indiana. She had been leading solidly since February. Only two polls, Zogby and Seltzer, predicted him pulling an upset and he would have if not for the high participation of Republicans causing chaos. This was NOT a come from behind victory! This was a Rush Limbaugh saved my behind victory. Look at the internals. The polls predicated she would carry Democrats by double digits, but she only won by 2%. Come on!

Posted by: Dawn | May 7, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

This is excellent news for Hillary ! She has Obama off balance now. Soon she will give him the knock-out punch ! Go Hillary ! The check is in the mail !

Posted by: Jacob's Quandary | May 7, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Keep fighting Hillary. You’re the only chance that the Dems have of winning the GE. Obama winning the nomination is a guaranteed victory for McCain.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Jordan
ah but according to Donna Brazile Obama and the obamacans have their own partry now The New Democratic Party

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Clinton ran a hard race it’s time for her to drop out and endorse Obama.

Posted by: Lookup | May 7, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Keep underestimating Obama… at your own peril. You might just wake up some morning in November and find him elected to be your president.

Posted by: Dem in Chicago | May 7, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Dawn
we will have a war within the Democratic party Obama does not speak for us get over it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

To those who say they will vote for McCain in November now that Obama is the presumptive nominee, I say good riddance. You are obviously closet Republicans, and you have no clue about what issues are at stake. You are too much of a wild card. Let’s concentrate on those who have a clue, which is the majority of Americans. Let’s end this war, let’s fix the economy and let’s bring America back where it belongs, at the top of the list on human rights, freedom and democracy.
Obama/Clinton 08

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Dem In Chicago
he will never be elected president please get over it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

There is no way I would vote for a President Obama- even if Hillary was on the ticket. McCain or Hillary. No Obama. Ever.

Posted by: Not Ever | May 7, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

agi
again if Obama offers the VP to CLinton now unconditionally … maybe but otherwise no and Im a lifelong democrat and I know Obama should not be in the oval office I am not a republican but will vote that way now

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Not Ever,
As I wrote, good riddance my closet Republican friend.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Hillary was knocked down but not out.
Why are the superdelegates hesitating to end this? Some worry about Obama?
Obama is tired, bored, and living in a fishbowl. He and Michelle have to monitor everywhere they go, everything they say and do for fear of being exposed as radicals and elitist..
Today resting in Chicago, they can’t go to Trinity and pray, can’t turn to their pastor. Betrayed them both.
I find comfort in knowing I will not help Obama win. Go Hillary or McCain!

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 7, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Not Ever
I am with you but it is my opinion that Obama is now obligated to offer only clinton the vp slot

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Agi – I support Clinton b/c of her insider knowledge of how to get things done in Washington, her stance on economy, her ability to make tradeoffs bw priorities and find the dollars to pay for programs, her positions on national security and defense.
Why would I want to get behind a candidate (Obama) who spent most of his time in Congress campaigning, doesn’t seem to quite understand the economic dynamics at play, proposes $300 billion of programs with no cuts in other places (HRC proposes $200B and accounts for where most of it comes from), and who’s foreign relations stances (lets talk) and military know-how is nil?
It’s about the issues – not the party.

Posted by: Seven | May 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

All you hillary supporters who say they will vote for mcCain because Obama is the nominee….those American soldiers who die for having to stay in iraq. Their blood is on your hands. Hillary and Obama have the same policies! Yet you would rather vote for a guy who will leave our troops in a hazardous situation with no end, just to make a point?

Posted by: Rob | May 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

All you hillary supporters who say they will vote for mcCain because Obama is the nominee….those American soldiers who die for having to stay in iraq. Their blood is on your hands. Hillary and Obama have the same policies! Yet you would rather vote for a guy who will leave our troops in a hazardous situation with no end, just to make a point?

Posted by: Rob | May 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Staniam,
If you are truly a Democrat, and not an Operation Chaos operative, then I am confident you will vote Democrat in November.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Gomaccain
I say lets split the democratic party up now and be done with it!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

If the Dems want to end the War in Iraq, then they need to nominate the Dem can win in November. That’s Hillary.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 7, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

agi
not without Hillary on the tickt I wont and I think she wouldnt accept it … there are a few more people that have better judgement than you obamabots you ahave to have her with Obama or else you will lose

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Seven,
You have every right to support who you think the best candidate is. But once the people have spoken, you must reconcile with the idea that the opinion of the majority is different and you must go with the majority. The goal is one and the same. As I wrote before, I would have voted for Clinton in November even though I support Obama.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

If the Dems want to end the War in Iraq, then they need to nominate the Dem that can win in November. That’s Hillary.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 7, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Hossiersue
I hear that! so was there really some election fruad going on in the lake counties last night in IN ?

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

If Hillary loses and endorses Obama that’s her decision. I will never vote for Obama. I’ll either write her in, vote McCain or vote Nader. Obama would push me out of the Dem party this go around.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

She is done!! The wicked witch is dead!!! Only thing left to do now is drop a house on her!!!! I don’t care what Hillary supporters say on this blog she can’t win now EVEN if they count michigan and florida. BTW she won’t win montana she might get by in oregon but I doubt that. now its time to move to the general.

Posted by: joe | May 7, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

The middle-aged white women like myself will riot in the streets if the superdelegates give the nomination to Obama.
Donna Brazille needs to just shut up and endorse Obama. Grow a pair Donna.

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

staniam
not to sound like a jerk…
but those who aren’t going to vote for Obama in the general as hard pressed as you are…
Is not worth the fight …if you want to vote for McCain …go ahead. Just remember when the supreme court has it’s not justice and that justice is now against roe vs. wade and all the forward motion for women’s right to control and decide what is right for them and control over their own bodies is overturned…and the economy and the war keeps going on and our rep in the world hasn’t gotten better and you squandered the chance to have the world root for us again.
Remember to tell the next generation, your kids or your nieces and nephews…etc…
That you voted for McCain.

Posted by: dl | May 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

crat3, As a white, middle-class, middle-aged, male, Independent North Carolinian who voted for Obama because I believe Clintons cannot be trusted to tell you the truth and represent the same old crap that existed in politics the last 30 years..your words are ignorant at best and racist at worst but not surprising from Clinton supporters…

Posted by: indy_voter | May 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

and their firgues include not giving Obama anything from MI. Not going to happen.

Posted by: Brian | May 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

agi
you cannot convince clinton supporters to vote for Obama stop trying

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

I’m in california and I just
re-registered as an Independent!! I suggest all discruntled Dems that are upset with the democratic circus, GO INDEPENDENT!!! If Hillary’s the Dem nominee I WILL VOTE FOR HER, otherwise I won’t vote.

Posted by: Cindy, Calfiornia | May 7, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

I realize that statistically she can’t overcome Obama’s lead. She can’t win this way BUT NEITHER CAN HE !!!!

Posted by: Jill Mitchell | May 7, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

If Hillary does not get the nomination, I will vote for McCain-they are both the best, more experienced candidates and frankly, Obama stinks!!!(B-O) I do not trust him or his friends and I would hate to see him on the same ticket with Hillary-either as president or vice-president–she does not need to denigrate herself. If the whites would stand behind their candidate as the blacks have done, they would call that “racism” at its best.

Posted by: virginia | May 7, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Mack,
Once again, if you are so clueless about what’s at stake this November that you would rather vote for Bush III, I say go ahead. You can either choose to be on the side of hope, or on the side of finishing up this great country of ours. I hope you’ll reconsider.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Joe
but your candidate will not win the GE

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

The funny thing is the numbers ARE really starting to turn on her in her own state…she may have a time running for Senate. (She had a low ceiling and high floor even their)

Posted by: dl | May 7, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

starting to look like the VP spot for Hillary– she’s still my gal, though….

Posted by: gerald clough | May 7, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Obama does not care whether he wins the general or not— he just wants the Nomination so he can write another book and make millions from that.
If he really cared about the Country — he should support someone much more experienced and SMARTER than him.
This Obama came out of Left field….WHO IS HE??…. CLoaking yourself in the American Flag and drink Budweiser doesn’t make you Patriotic.
This chump needs to step down if he REALLY wants a Democratic in the White House

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 7, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

OBAMA supporters
The only way Obama will beat McCain is if blacks start having more babies!

Posted by: Cindy, Calfiornia | May 7, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

black voters , the 92% of you have shown the rest of us you are nothing but ungrateful racists. Everything to you is based on skin color. You justify the anti-American white and Jew bashing rants of Obama’s church, you knife Bill Clinton in the back who put hi soffice in Harlem who walked the walk. OJ is a murderer by the way. Are you also blind to that?

Posted by: geevill | May 7, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

DL
that doesnt matter Obama is unfit period to be president so Mccain it is

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Staniam,
You cannot convince Clinton supporters to defect the party, my Operation Chaos operative friend.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Agi – again, it’s the issues, not the party. Just because I’m a registered Dem doesn’t mean I have to support all choices willy-nilly, especially those I think are wrong.

Posted by: Seven | May 7, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Go Hillary but please SHUT up on the gas tax moving forward. That is what caused the harm. I really starting to wonder about the talent around her!

Posted by: James | May 7, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Cindy
I will change my registration this has been stolen clear and simple no debate from the obamabots will be allowed!!!!!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

I don’t usually believe poles and demographic reports. After reading the Clinton supporter blogs I do now believe them. Clinton Supporters are uneducated women. How else do you explain their bitter comments?

Posted by: Larry Oregon | May 7, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

One person, one vote…HA! Tell that to florida and michigan. The demoncratic party is so hypocritical

Posted by: carolinanc | May 7, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Lot’s of Operation Chaos operatives here today. Not surprising since they are in the last throws of trying to fracture the Democratic party.
I have news for you: it ain’t gonna happen. We will trounce McCain this November. You might as well start lobbying for a war with Iran because that’s your only real chance to steal this election.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Blacks have always voted for whites. They haven’t been given a choice. Finally, they have a choice. Since you are white, you will never know how that feels.
Your ignorance precedes you.

Posted by: chimchim | May 7, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

and to all those who are blathering about obama not winning the general…
time to wake up from lala land.
The US is in a horrible situation…and McCain is offering almost the exact same road.
Stop blathering… last night you can feel it …the republicans worst case scenario finally came through…
and they are panicked…even Gingrich, Joe Scarborough, FoxNews and Rove said pretty much exactly that.
but Clinton supporters keep on saying he can’t win. You are being loopy and defensive at best… self-dillusional and angry is probably closer.

Posted by: dl | May 7, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

The guy isn’t even fit to be a Senator, let alone President.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

MG
you are a little too small minded for comfort Mccain will clean Obamas clock he cant debate he cant focus on any issues etc etc

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Hillary’s speech last night was so transparent, so false, and such a rip-off from Obama. All the chants, all the hope rhetoric are empty and obvious parodies of the Real Deal — Barack Obama. She has no real message or substance. I used to have such respect for the strength of the Clintons, but now they just seem creepy. I cannot understand what her supporters see in her when compared to a history-changing statesman such as Senator Obama.

Posted by: Walter | May 7, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

I just want to thank Hillary for using republican tactics (per CNN, ABC, and MSNBC) to toughening up and vetting Obama for the national election. I also salute both Hillary and Barrack for rendering McCain totally irrelevant and impotent. He has struggled to find anyone willing to sit through his lame comments about his personal views on the presidency. No money or support for McCain will be forthcoming, because the conservative republican base is not motivated. Since Cindy McCain’s assets are in her name only, he can’t even tap into those funds (unlike the Clintons, who legally have shared/joint assets). Obama on the other hand is taking small amounts of money from millions of donors around the country, and spending them wisely. McCain is old history.

Posted by: rco | May 7, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

As a Hillary supporter, I am saddened by last nights decisive loss in NC, and near loss in Indiana, however, the more I see and hear from Obama, the more impressed I really am.
It would be foolish to stay home in November, or vote for that fossil McCain and a third Bush term. Us Hillary supporters need to rally around Hillary’s party, for her. To help re-establish her honor. We need to set a strong example, as it can only reflect positively on Hill.
Go Obama!

Posted by: mandy4hill | May 7, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Seven,
Now you are making no sense. How can you say with a straight face that it’s the issues and then say you would vote for McCain? Clinton and Obama agree on 99% of the issues. McCain and Clinton do not.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

You democrats who say you will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee are the eptiome of whats wrong with our party. If you would rather risk Republican rule over our country for 4-8 more years, over the bitterness of a DEMOCRATIC primary then thats sad. The stakes are too high to abandon our party for a republican after 8 years of GW. Stop being immature and help hold this party together.

Posted by: Brandon | May 7, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Clinton should not be urged to quit. We don’t even know the outcome of Florida and Michigan, which could propel her to become nominee. Any attempt to ignore that is a grave violation of democracy of the Dem party.

Posted by: max armstrong | May 7, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

T-PA
well thats no what John Adams and the founders envisioned when they were contemplating the presidency Obama has tried to change things that are sacrosanct to history

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Hillary Clinton is a smart and capable woman who has fought a tenacious campaign.
I’ve been disappointed in some of the tactics that campaign has used, but that’s not what I want to write about now.
Here’s the thing I want to say to other Obama supporters. Lighten up. No gloating. We need to treat Clinton supporters with respect, and welcome them to the fold. Insulting Senator Clinton or her supporters is the best way to hurt Senator Obama’s campaign right now.
It is ending. The sooner the better, for me, but let Senator Clinton choose her own timing. It’s her right.
The country will be better off, and I’m feeling much relieved this morning, but let’s try not to gloat too much, OK?

Posted by: David in NC | May 7, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Dear Fellow Americans,
Our Great-grand Nation, the United States of America
is and will face very critical and substantial
“Challenges” in coming,
months, years, and decades to come.
It is very essential that we pick out our next
President on following criteria in mind.
1. A candidate with “Vision and Mission”.
2. A candidate with ” Stable Character and Integrity”
.
3. A candidate with “Presidential Temperament” and
“stable Judgment”.
4. A candidate with “little “Washington” exposure”
and
“real connectedness with New Voters”.
5. A candidate who “Inspires us up” rather than
“Tears us down”.
6. A candidate not based on sexism, racism, and
ageism.
In my professional and personal opinion, the only
candidate who has the above qualities and
characteristics and is also cool, calm, and collected
is Senator Obama.
As an independent registered voter since 1980. I voted
for Carter, voted for Reagan, voted for First Bush,
and second Bush in 2000 and In the process last
interest in Washington politics as usual and I
stopped voting.Not a good idea under any circumstance
particularly at present.
This time we can not afford to stay on side lines and
let Washington stay the same.We can not afford our
Greatgreat Nation to become less than what we are and
can be.
We need to send clear and candid message to the world
and some 24 hour partisan hateful media. These media
outlets are trying to deprive, dupe, and derail us
from getting it right this time.
They are trying there best to deny us better rather
than bitter future. { Our Greatgrand Nations people
are persistently and constantly subjected to
Psychological terrorism” without their knowledge thru
these hateful partisan media outlets.
We Americans are should not and would not to allow
them
psychologically terrorized, traumatized and silence us
this time.
I am sure that we will get it right this
time and elect Senator Obama our next President. let
us not get dragged down into racism, sexism and
ageism.
Let us remember that our Greatgrand is constituted of
family, friends,fellowships, faith, funds,foundation,
fun, and future with fairness and freedom and without
fear or favor.
We can not afford to lose any of above. Let us stand
up, be counted, save, build our Greatgrand Nation for
centuries to come and regain our world economic, and
power status back.
God Bless our Great grand Nation and its diverse
people.
Our Greatgrand nation needs present and future
stability, security, safety,sustained progress and
restoration of our due status in this perilous Global
World at the all levels.
Yours sincerely,
COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall
Forensic Psychiatrist.
Disables American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.

Posted by: COL.[retd]A.M.Khajawall | May 7, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

According to CNN news 11% republicans voted for Hillary to keep the fighting going. Subtract that amount from the votes she received. That would put her and Obama pretty close to a tie in Indiana. She does not have the financial backing , she lost double digits in NC and won only by two points in Indiana. This is the image of a stronger candidate ? She and Obama need to put their egos aside and form a dream team ticket.All the issues would be resolved including Florida and Michigan. The party has to unite and unite now before it is to late.

Posted by: Danny | May 7, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Wanter,
Clinton is positioning herself for VP. That’s what the “borrowing” was about. There will be no fracture, no implosion. The Clintons may be passionate, but they are not stupid. Bill Clinton has a legacy to protect. He cannot afford to be the one who wrecked the party at the moment of triumph.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Keep going, Hillary.
Abraham Lincoln had no feasible chance of winning the nomination, but did at the convention by shaking hands and speaking his mind on what he wanted to do for the country.
It’s never over ’til it’s over.

Posted by: Susi | May 7, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Max
exactly its creepy lil gov Dean that is raming through this plan but clinton has half of the delegates on the rules commitee and something will be done if you want to riot when hillary gets the nomination after a long fight go right ahead!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Congrats to CINDY from CA, really. I would register Indy, but I’m in MD and that doesnt get you far here.
Our party has shot themselves in the foot again. I fear McGovern PartII because the SD’s did not get behind Clinton early enough. But I still have my fingers crossed.

Posted by: Jackie | May 7, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Barack obama supporters are more likely to support clinton than the other way around. Says a lot about clinton supporters. There seems to be more than just difference in education between the supporters

Posted by: nohill | May 7, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Agi – they’re not the same on the issues I care about most: economy, national defense/security, taxes, federal budget. There’s more in common b/w McCain and HRC on those issues, than Obama/HRC.

Posted by: Seven | May 7, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Hillary’s speech was flat last night. I agree. Bill and Chelsea had a hard time keeping their chin up through it all. they had probably listened to Obama’s fantastic speech, one of his best ever. The timing was perfect. time for party unity. Can’t wait until the August convention. What a party it will be be. McCain doesn’t stand a chance- economy/recession, mortgage crisis, jobs, gas prices, war, old age, lack of republican conservative support, lack of fund-raising, losing congressional numbers, etc. Our next president will be Barack Obama.

Posted by: rco | May 7, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

I blame the Super Delegates for not making up their minds; they are waiving on there decision and adding fuel to the Fire. Give Mrs. Clinton a Graceful way out. She’s a Clinton and that is what she is looking for. Shame on you Democratic Party Super Delegates that haven’t committed when you Home States have spoken. I’m tired and really ready to change my vote to McCain because of the Ya’ll not being able to make up you minds and help the Party.
She should have Humbled herself 1 month ago and worked to be the VP. But she’s to good for that and she wants to help ME!

Posted by: Cornell Lumberton NC | May 7, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

I hope all of you will consider the importance of getting a democrat in office over McCain. Please try and keep this in perspective, voting for McCain is reelecting Bush. Who ever gets the democratic nominee, we have to stick together!

Posted by: Robk | May 7, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

susi
I guess in CHi-Town and enviorns(especially Gary last night) they expected to be handed the nomination by glad handing and money dopping it is a process the nomination that does not end until the convention

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Oregon 4,
I have an Ivy League education, and I am supporting Hillary. Seems that a lot of these Obamabots have fallen for him pandering to them that “they are too smart to fall for politics as usual, blah, blah…” catering to their egos. Seems they may have gotten educated, but did not actually learn to think for themselves.

Posted by: CoffeeAlert | May 7, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

“Where’s my beer?” — Barack Obama, grabbing a Pabst Blue Ribbon Tuesday in North Carolina, in an iconic moment from a well-lubricated and memorable campaign.
====
Watch the Clinton campaign talk about his “drinking problem.”

Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 7, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

I can just imagine the Inauguration. Obama on stage with Michelle, Wright, Ayers and Farrakhan all back-slapping and congratulating each other on the down fall of America. Not going to happen.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

The problem is the Clintons have tried to make this whole election about them. And, now it’s really over and done. Obama said in his speech last night the it is about all of us, not him. We cannot afford another 4 years of Republcan rule. Racist?? Blacks will vote for a black candidate,just like women will vote for a woman candidate, and really old POWs wlll vote for McCain– so what? HRC supporters– please grow up and support the party

Posted by: Steve L. | May 7, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Seven,
The only issue McCain and Clinton agree on is the gas holiday tax. Sorry.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

I can’t wait for Hillary to entertain us in WV, KY and PR: she’ll go down a coal mine and wistfully remember how many tons she had to haul when she was just a child, then head to Puerto Rico and pick plantains like the ones she used to grow herself, on the Kentucky bluegrass that she planted in front of her home. This is going to be so funny.

Posted by: Rose | May 7, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

To all the Hillary supporters who refuse to support Obama. Do you listen to Hillary when she talks? Many times, including yesterday, she said everyone needs to get behind the nominee. If it’s not her, she herself, will be supporting and working her butt off to help the nominee. You may be supporting her, but she clearly doesn’t support you. Everything she says is gospel, including the gas tax. Against all odds, you fight for her and her platform. Then she says, support the democratic nominee and you all say, not a chance, I’m going to McCain. Does nobody else see a disconnect here? Many of Clinton’s supporters are poorer americans in need of help. Your solution to an Obama democratic nominee is to vote for more tax cuts to the wealthy and more hardships to you. What are you proving by doing that?

Posted by: Really? | May 7, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

I was leaning Clinton until she started pushing that ridiculous gas tax. Last night I voted for Obama. I think he is the least of the 3 evils. And I don’t consider myself a democrat.

Posted by: Emily in NC | May 7, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Hillery and Her duagther were in an ethnic restourant, promoting “divertsity” business and had dinner there.
Both individuals left the restourant withouth leaving tips.
Now it is clear what they were not having “heart” for those poor witresses that kindly served them: they had to save for this presidency race…..
Nice huuuu

Posted by: Xu | May 7, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Pack it in Hillary! Let’s beat the republicans. Support the people’s choice.

Posted by: herringeye | May 7, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Nohill,
Actually, the polls said that Hillary supporters are LESS likely to support Obama than the other way around. Check your facts there. I know that I certainly will NEVER support Obama. Yes, even if it means supporting McCain. It makes me sick to think about voting for McCain, but I’d rather it was him than Obama.

Posted by: CoffeeAlert | May 7, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

T from PA
I am a lifelong democrat and feel strongly that Obama cannot and should not be president your problem as an obama supporter you only listen to your side and dont know what goes on outside the campaign and the rules have to do with it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Cofeealert
lets all band together and stop his nomination it will be no different from them trying to shut down Hillarys process

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Not commenting on who is better candidate.
My comment is regarding money.
Have you ever seen either of the Clintons walk away from money?
She has loaned her campaign over ten million big ones.
She must stay in the race til the convention to get the large chunk of money every candidate in democratic party gets at that time.
She has to stay in to be there in Denver to qualify for the funds.
So she is staying for the money first..and second..she is just one heart beat away from being the nominee by default.
I sure wound’t want to have her as my VP that’s for sure. There been way too many funerals of people in that bunch..starting with that Bligh guy who was supposed to be Clinton’s sperm donor.

Posted by: cora brantley | May 7, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

CoffeeAlert,
There is one and only issue that made me choose Obama over Clinton: Clinton’s vote for the Iraq war. She did what she thought was politically expedient and she was wrong. If she had apologized, as Edwards did, it would be a different story. But she hasn’t, so she did not get my vote.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Obama is too afraid of Hillary Clinton for his VP – she is too good for him and he knows it. Obama won’t be elected president. His campaign and his followers continue to look at last nights results – they better start looking at the General Election. This is what will matter. And obama will not be elected President. He is unelectable and the DNC knows this, but Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi want obama to win so badly that they will put up the DNC for sale for his nomination. But that is where it will end. John McCain will be elected. Do you obama followers really think that the leaders in Washington DC want obama a president? An empty suit that has such close ANTI-AMERICAN friends? It will never happen. So come on, nominate obama and watch McCain being sworn in – Note to Howard Dean and Nancy pelosi – you might just want to start schmoozing up with those people who will support you come your re-election time. You sure as heck will never get my vote as a Democrat. Neither will any other Democratic Congress member or Senator. Its relatively easy for me and a few acquaintances to go on line and make contacts that will not support your re-election and from that few a pyramid will be created. Dean and Pelosi have destroyed the DNC. I will vote for McCain if obama is nominated and I will support McCain in any way when he becomes president.

Posted by: Lou | May 7, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

You know – my big issue with Clinton is that she’s a phony. She is a walking contradiction at this point in her campaign. She is pledging to keep American Democracy safe and claiming to embrace America. Yet, she is doing her best to try and circumvent the very system she professes to love and wishes to protect. She cannot win the nomination in a democratic manner. She is hoping that the Super Delegates pull the election from Obama and hand it to her. Deliberately thwarting the democratic election system would be…well…anti-American. She’s a phony…a groomed politician who wishes for nothing but a win – at ANY cost.

Posted by: J-Bird | May 7, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Why not allow the rest of the states a chance to vote? Why do you think Michigan and Florida wanted to go early?
We really know nothing about Obama, in fact I think he’s like a mirror reflection of the hopes and frustrations of America. Not a real person at all. But a symbol.
Young naive and first time voters, as well as a public fed-up with the Washington machine. But…. you can’t go into a football game and change the way it is played, just because you don’t like rules.
Obama has been badmouthing the Washington the DC insiders for a year now. Wait until they get him in teh locker room and snap a few towels at him. He’ll either play by the rules or sit on the bench.
Hillary knows more about how the game is played. And like it or not…the game isn’t gonna change just because the fans are yelling from the stands.

Posted by: val | May 7, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

hereingue
all the people havent voted yet Hillary should stay in till puerto rico thats short circuitign the process there is no way you peopel will get around having to do that!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Wow, what a bunch of poor losers…
Take your ball and go home if you want to – obviously you weren’t that loyal of a democrat to begin with.
Let me ask a question… which is it? Does Obama steal all of his policy stances from Clinton or does he differ from her so much that you have to choose McCain? They’re both trying to achieve most of the same things here, with some vague nuances in the means to do them – yet you’re willing to go 180 degrees to McCain because you’re a spoilsport? All this because you have some character issues? You’d rather choose someone you know is going against your interests than someone you ‘suspect’ might be less than patriotic? I thought we left all that rah-rah flag-pin obsession crap to the Republicans?

Posted by: Franklin | May 7, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Val
you said that eloquently

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

CoffeAlert,
Another Operation Chaos operative. How can you say you are educated and yet say thing like you would NEVER support Obama? That’s not a sign of an open minded person, and of someone who understands that at the end of the day, we need a Democrat in the White House in November.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

“This is the Barack Obama I have known for nearly 15 years — a careful and even-handed analyst of law and policy, unusually attentive to multiple points of view.
The University of Chicago Law School is by far the most conservative of the great American law schools. It helped to provide the academic foundations for many positions of the Reagan administration.
But at the University of Chicago, Obama is liked and admired by Republicans and Democrats alike. Some of the local Reagan enthusiasts are Obama supporters. Why? It doesn’t hurt that he’s a great guy, with a personal touch and a lot of warmth. It certainly helps that he is exceptionally able.
But niceness and ability are only part of the story. Obama also has a genuinely independent mind, he’s a terrific listener and he goes wherever reason takes him.
But Obama is not a compromiser; he does not try to steer between the poles (or the polls). “Triangulation” has no appeal for him. Both internationally and domestically, he is willing to think big and to be bold. He publicly opposed the war in Iraq at a time when opposition was unpopular.
As president, Obama would set a new tone in US politics. He refuses to demonize his political opponents; deep in his heart, I believe, he doesn’t even think of them as opponents. It would not be surprising to find Republicans and independents prominent in his administration.
Obama wants to know what ideas are likely to work, not whether a Democrat or a Republican is responsible for them. He assumes decency and good faith on the part of those who disagree with him. And he wants to hear what they have to say. Both in substance and in tone, Obama questions the conventional political distinctions between “the left” and “the right”. To the extent that he is attracting support from Republicans and independents, it is largely for this reason.
From knowing Obama for many years, I have no doubts about his ability to lead. He knows a great deal, and he is a quick learner. Even better, he knows what he does not know, and there is no question that he would assemble an accomplished, experienced team of advisers. His brilliant administration of his own campaign provides helpful evidence here.
My own concern involves the importance of internal debate. The greatest American presidents (above all Lincoln and Roosevelt) benefited from robust dialogue and from advisers who avoided saying, “how wonderful you are,” and were willing to say: “Mr President, your thinking about this is all wrong.”
In the 2000 campaign, Bush proclaimed himself a “uniter, not a divider”, only to turn out to be the most divisive President in memory. Because of his own certainty, and his lack of curiosity about what others might think, Bush polarized the nation. Many of his most ambitious plans went nowhere as a result.
As president, Barack Obama would be a genuine uniter. If he proves able to achieve great things, for his nation and for the world, it will be above all for that reason” Cass Sunstein University of Chicago

Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | May 7, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

if she quits and then run as independent and I will vote for her. Clinton supporters are mad because media doesn’t treat well. OB does not deserve to become the nominee.

Posted by: stephanie | May 7, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

CASE NUMBER BC304174.
Paul v. Clinton
Hilary and Bill are both defendants in a trial for campaign fraud during her senatorial campaign. She has been allowed to testify after the election.
It starts without her on 5/13/08…….6 days from now. I would like to bet everyone on this post a beer that we don’t hear about it on the news!

Posted by: Very Concerned | May 7, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Hillary has put on a valiant fight, and we love her for it. It pains me to say it, but we HIllary supporters need to rally around Obama now. He had wonderful things to say at his speech last night. We need his leadership. Maybe he can bring us together. Let’s give him a chance. Let’s change the tone of this election, because maybe Hillary will be our VP. They are both great candidates, and it is time to stop tearing down one to lift the other. McCain is the enemy now.

Posted by: Amy | May 7, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Obama is a dishonest, calculating and opportunist. Our youths are taking this election like a FASHION or American Idol without giving a little taught that our nation faces enormous problems wich require strong candidate with brains to solve them. Obama is winning because of the Black vote. Obama with the help of Clyburn, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson are using the black community to blackmail this election. Why does the Liberal media — chris matthews, olberman, tim russert of MSNBC — think that ONLY the black community is important in this election. Why do they discount the enormous clout of the Hispanic, Latinos, Asian and women? Can Obama ever win the general election without the support of these communities? OBAMA IS NORTHING BUT A FAKE WHO SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH AMERICAN FLAGS BUT DO NOT RESPECT THEM. OBAMA AND MICHELLE ARE BOTH INFLUENCED BY RACIST PASTOR, WRIGHT, this is evident by their words and actions. Obama has no judgement, when he subjected to the despicable sermons of his pastor for 20 years and failed to denounce him until recently.

Posted by: utwo | May 7, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

This is my first post but I had to weigh in. I have had the utmost respect for the Clintons until the developments of the past several months. I always disagreed with the Republicans in their attack of her as polarizing and power hungry. No disrespect but they have been correct.
The way Senator Clinton has taken a “by any means necessary” approach is mind blowing. She reminds me Tonya Harding trying to club Nancy Kerrigan. Who triumped in the end? Truth and justice will always prevail.
Senator Obama will be the democratic Nominee and do more to heal the divisions in our Country. We can not afford 4 more years of Bush Policies.
Thanks Senator Obama for giving us hope that we can reclaim the promise of America!!

Posted by: April | May 7, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

He can’t even unite his own party. You fell for the tag line.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

If my math is right, there are only 217 delegates left to win acc. to RCP. Obama has to win 92% to win the nom. Hillary has no chance to win, but a very good chance to keep Obama from winning it outright before the conv.

Posted by: Polly A | May 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Lou
thats what I was trying to say it looks like the anybody but Obama crowd is gaining steam!!!! saying Obama is qualified is like one of his 20 yr old supporters saying well I can be president but they dont know the constitution says you have to be at least 42!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Agi – I didn’t say they agree, I said there’s more in common. Economy, national defense, federal budget. Sorry.

Posted by: Seven | May 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

To the Democrats posting, Clinton has lost the nomination and Obama is the presumptive nominee. Clinton was a strong competitor and potential candidate, but the contest is almost done and she has no viable path to victory. Instead of arguing, now is the time to back our platform and presumed nominee. We need to turn our eyes to the general, because all of us lose if we McCain is elected to a third Bush term in November.
To the Republicans posting as Democrats, you really should turn your attention to your own party. Flooding this list with fake comments just distracts you from how your own candidate is such a disaster. How about you spend some time finding something positive to say about McCain rather than trying to divide the Democrats. Or, do you think that’s your only chance at winning?

Posted by: Justin | May 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Once again, Operation Chaos operatives are trying to divide us. Listen to what Obama said last night. This is their goal: divide and conquer. I am confident it won’t happen but it’s good to be aware of it.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

If Hillary is not the nominee, the “right” thing I wlll be doing is voting for John McCain. If I can’t have an honest woman, I’ll have an honest man. And Obama, in my opinion, is not an honest man. You can’t listen to Wright all those years without agreeing with most of what he says. I do NOT want this man in the White House.

Posted by: Charlie35 | May 7, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Nat
it does not matter Clinton people will never support obama kiss the white house goodbye

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Delusional. Change..Unite…yes we can..red, blue, purple…all rhetoric no substance. He has divided the party. Wake up.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Tim
you are entitled to your opinion but mine is that Obama should not be pres

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

White middle age woman voting for Obama here. Sorry staniam, but there are a lot of us. There are a lot of former Clinton supporters that are being swayed by Obama. Sure there are some that will never vote for him and while tragic, really isn’t that big of an issue.
Remember that in some of these states, some… unscrupulous people urged Republicans to vote for Clinton to try to cause unrest. These people that helped her take states like Indiana will definitely *not* be voting for her in a general election. The super delegates know this. All that’s left is to reunite the party under one candidate.
Stating that all Clinton supporters would never vote for Obama in a GE against McCain without giving any reason to back it up is just causing more unrest. I have to therefore assume that you are one of these unscrupulous people that are supporting Clinton as a way of trying to elect McCain.
Please stop, or at the very least give an informed sane reason why you believe the way that you do.

Posted by: karens | May 7, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

nat
he will not win the presidency you know it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

People like yourself and Mr Dowd have been saying the race is over since IOWA.
So forgive us Clinton supporters if we really don’t feel like listening to you now.
She is 60,000 votes behind.
These will be made up next Tuesday in WV.
Then comes Kenntucky.
When was the last time a President was elected without carrying WV, Kenn, or any industrialized state other than Illinois?
The answer is never because it’s not possible.
Obama can’t win in Nov and the Democrats are committing political suicide to nominate him.
That’s why Clinton will stay in it until the end. It’s her obligation.
90% of the black vote doesnt winthe white house.
Hispanics make up a larger part of the population now.
Blacks for the most part don’t live in swing states.
No president has ever carried the white house with out white working class votes, hipanic votes, Jewish votes and rural votes combined.
She must stay in this race. Obama didn’t win ground yesterday. He lost ground while masssively outspending her.
He lost his neighboring state.
THe DNC and all democratic super delegates know this.
Why didn’t he win Indiana with all that money and all those people saying Hillary can’t win?
That’s the question democrats should be asking themselves this morning.

Posted by: s.b. | May 7, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

I personaly think Hillary should move to Independant and kick both there butts Just the way Ted sees it

Posted by: ted | May 7, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Karens
I have… let the process play out till the Puerto Rico primary neither can win before the convention unless like someone said that Obama wins 80 percent from now on then let him get the nomination at the convention I will personally not vote for him in the GE and I know others wont either

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

I am a lifelong democrat, and there are many things I can say, but I will keep it simple, and there are MANY Dems who feel this way: IF OBAMA GETS THE NOM, I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN. No way, no how, will I vote for the dangerous liar Obama. If you want to risk losing the whitehouse to McCain, Obama is your best bet. Count on it.

Posted by: doublestandard | May 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Staniam
A DEMOCRAT WILL BE THE PRESIDENT and you know it.

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

agi
I am not a republican Obama will not win the presidency period

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Yes Hillary as an Independent. We need a viable third party candidate.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

To all Republican on this blog:
With Obama, you have finally found an opponent where your slime doesn’t stick. Not even the Fox News blanket coverage of reverend Wright dissuaded the people. Sorry.

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

TIm
not exactly you cant be that confident as I cant influence you do not brag about any results or any polls or whatever it is not over till the end of the primary season endure it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

You mean he only gives “prepared” speeches well.
Ever hear him give a nonscripted speech? Wow. And to think most people picked on GW for his speaking skills.
What are we? The country that elects Presidents for their poor ability to speak. How many of you hypocritical Obama supporters bash bush over his speaking and you will blindly support obama?
Listen to him. Um….err….ugh…err…CHANGE IS…err…ugh..CHANGE IS…err…GOOD! followed by roaring applause from hypocrites.

Posted by: Ken doll | May 7, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Mack
yes she can win as an independant with 42 percent of the vote so thats feasile the Obamabots never thought of that

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

If it is true that there is no distrinction between her share of their joint assets and her money, then why aren’t his donors and sources totally open to public scrutiny – this particularly also re the library

Posted by: Owen Cylke | May 7, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

“He has divided the party. Wake up.”
You wake up. He’s all but won the party nomination.

Posted by: Gion | May 7, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Ken
give BO credit he does know how to turn his head from side to side to read a telepromter now and then…

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Staniam,
I’ve have yet to brag once. America is sick of Bush and America is sick of the crumbling Repulican party. Our next president will be a Democrat. Wether that is Hillary or Obamama it doesn’t matter.

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

NAT TURNER – net worth of about $60million, 1st woman to make a major and plausible run for POTUS, 2 term senator from NYC, former 1st lady of the US, former 1st lady of AR, lawyer, Yale Law school/Wellesly grad …. laugh all you want – but what have you done lately?

Posted by: Beantown | May 7, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Tim
Mccain is as liberal as the two dems hes not bush I hate not voting for a dem but I cannot in good conscience vote for obama

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Obama can not put her on his ticket she is everything he is against.
Thank you Elizabeth, I do not know him personally but he does seem like the person you have described.
Whoever is in charge needs to get a back bone and end this. So if it is the Supers they need to get their heads out of the fright box and move forward and move fast.

Posted by: Becky | May 7, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Stanian
So you have no problem voting for WAR!!??

Posted by: Stanian | May 7, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Stanian
So you have no problem voting for WAR!!??

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

The fact that everyone hasnt voted doesnt mean that she should quit yet..also, I will ote for McCain if Hillary isnt the nominee..I have been a democract all my life..I have a masters and been a minority, so i am his target audience.. But the insults that Obama and his camp have made, the lies and the whining and blaming that they have thrown at the Clintons and the media..I can not vote for him..The Clintons have thwon stuff at him but the media has overblown it because of Obama. No way that the Hillary’s crowds will vote fro him..

Posted by: linchristi | May 7, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Ken Doll: You are witness to a very thoughtful, kind, gracious orator who weighs his words most carefully and maybe it seems like he’s speaking slowly because you seem to be missing the important words and picking up on the er…ah… Ken you and your kind must learn that next to “love” “kindness is the greatest strength.”

Posted by: MissClarity | May 7, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Neither candidate will cross the delegate finish line. Why should Senator Clinton drop out of the race now? Everytime Senator Obama gets a little edge everyone turns on Senator Clinton making her the scapegoat for dividing the Democratic Party. Just a week ago EVERYONE knew the plan which was to have all the states votes counted before SuperDelegates made their endorsements. Why has Senator Obama’s win last night ignited a call for Senator Obama to drop out of the race? The National Polls all indicate Senator Clinton as the candidate to beat Senator McCain in the Fall. Democrats would be foolish to have her drop out of the race now!

Posted by: RCornish | May 7, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

It is time for the democratic party to unify.
Negative statements from Clinton’s supporters that Obama can not win are incorrect, defeatist, and counterproductive for democrats. Obama has an amazing energetic campaign, a true vision for change, vast fund raising capabilities that empower small donors, youth, eloquence, charisma, popularity with independents, a record of integrity, the correct stance on issues, etc.
Clinton should be considered as a vice presidential option. Her supporters have earned that much for her. In that position she can continue to fight for them, a promise she has made often. I encourage her supporters to reach out to her and guide her into making the right decision. She should listen to you.
We can not afford four more years of GOP policy. McCain appears to be a decent man, but he no longer seems to know who he is, and his policies will be destructive. I believe that the American people know this.
Obama is the one to lead us.

Posted by: jesse | May 7, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

CASE NUMBER BC304174, Pual v. Clinton
Starts next week, May 13,2008.
Both Bill and Hillary are defendants in this case of campaign fraud during her senatorial campaign. She has been allowed to testify after election.
I will bet everyone on this post a beer that it will not be anywhere in the news!

Posted by: Very Conerned | May 7, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

imdkeeper
I am not racist I simply think BO is unqualified and wil not handle it well

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

ITS OVER
What Obama needs to do now is to beat Hillary Clinton at her own game..She’s now is West Virgina trying to get feel sorry for me votes. This is a mistake on Obama he should be in WV right now speaking and so on..
This is what Hillary wants is for people to want her to get out than she can get people to feel sorry for her
People in WV or white woman..
Than she can win..
Its the same old politics same old thing
Obama should just keep moving on because the nominee is his and don’t let her get those I feel sorry for Hillary votes.

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Jesse
its not that he should offer VP its that he is obligated to and she may or may not accept period!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

VeryConcerned -
HRC is not a defendant in the case, only Bill.
If you’re so concerned, why not also mention Sinclair v Obama/DNC. He’s about as stable/reliable as P Paul.

Posted by: THDI | May 7, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

The race is over and this lifelong Democrat just sent a $50 donation to John McCain. My party has abandoned me so now I’m returning the favor. Go McCain!!! Hillary in 2012!!!!

Posted by: Political Realist | May 7, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

betty
BO isnt doing that because hes just a tad weak and cant handle all the scrutiny he should know he cant take a vacation till Nov!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Time to change party, the Dem Party is dead. History will repeat again. This time will be the Patriot votes which will give the White House to GOP again in the coming November 04. As a registered Dem, I will be proud to vote for GOP candidate for the first time in my life.

Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Barack Hussein Obama is an empty suit, no experience, very poor judgment, has a very negative and angry wife, relationships with Rev. Wright shouting ‘HATE AMERICA’ ‘HATE WHITES’, etc. and Bill Ayers, and Tony Rezko the indicted fund-raiser.
The election is nothing more than blacks voting for a black candidate. Nothing more.
Wonder why Obama does not use his real name “Barack Hussein Obama”? What is the problem with his real name?
Hillary Rodham Clinton is the right president for America.
One thing for sure—lots of voters will be changing over in November to vote for John McCain. I for one will vote for John McCain — rather than Barack Hussein Obama.
GO HILLARY!!!
GO HILLARY!!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

Posted by: Blondshag | May 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Political realist
I will sign up on mccains site but not send money because I put more than I should have in Hillarys campaign and I might send more

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Hillary supporter please reconsider. If Hillary had won last night and Obama dropped out, I would vote for her, against my own will. I DO NOT want McCain or anyother Rep in the WH…as Dems we need to put aside this squabbling and dp what is right for the country not are own personal interests.

Posted by: thetruth | May 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

REAL DEMOCRATS DON’T VOTE FOR WAR!

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

He doesn’t have the overwhelming support of anyone, besides the 2 obvious groups. He is not decisivley winning the nomination and if you count Florida and Michigan it’s even closer. It’s a fantasy to believe that everyone is rallying behind this empty suit.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

I have been a Clinton supporter since Nov. last year after carefuuly researching Barack Obama’s background and his professional and political life to date. When campaigning in the mid 90s he promised more jobs, less crimes and a better quality of life for those in his district. Instead, it is just the opposite–the only help rerceived was handouts of tax payers’ money to the irresponsible people of his district. Thousands of jobs have been lost and the area is even more improverished. His close association with Rezko, Ayers, Sinclair and fringe terror groups call into question his judgement. He is not a uniter but someone who plays both sides against the middle and no one wins. He does have great orator qualities but that alone will not bring constructive change to our nation. The media has been in his corner and blames the Clinton canpaign for the wrong doings of his own people
People of America, wake up, research Obama’s record and vote rationally. Do not be a lemming.
If Obama is the Democratic candidate, there will be another Bush-type Republican in the White House. Vote for someone who can really bring hope and change that America so badly needs. Vote Clinton all the way.

Posted by: Grammie | May 7, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Blondeshag
thanks for that I was getting lonely here… there are pparently a couple of million just last night that think the same way:)

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

McCain has faced virtually no scrutiny in this presidential race so far. He thinks the Iraq War can be “won”–whatever that means. He is a decorated war hero, and no one can take that away from him, but his attempts at anything resembling economic policy are meaningless in some cases or would continue to add to our nation’s mounting debt in others. Making the Bush “tax cuts” permanent adds about another $603 billion to our national debt. It isn’t as though the money for those tax cuts to corporations and the wealthy exists. We borrow from other nations to pay for it just like we borrow from other nations to pay for the Iraq War. As he makes additional moves to appease his party’s conservative base, he will push away more moderate Republicans. He may very well win in the end, but I wouldn’t make any assumptions.

Posted by: mary | May 7, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

THDI…get everyone running for president, currently involved in a lawsuit to come out with it. I totally agree! Scrutiny is good. I could be wrong, but I read she was a defendant and is required to testify. Why do you suppose it is not in the news?

Posted by: Very Concerned | May 7, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

And just who is going to take McGovern serously? His opinion? His campaign made a laughing stock of the Democratic Party. LOL Take a look at the maps of election night? Can you see any Democratic states? One state and Dist. of Columbis ! That’s it !
Looks as if ‘likes’ attract. Obama will do the same job for the Democrats. Over hal fo Hillary’s supporters will stay home or vote for McCain.
And what’s with this ‘lost’ business? Hillary won Indiana … Obama’s back yard ! Obama was supposed to win it just a few weeks ago. Look at the big picture folks.
Carl Rove is out there doing his thing already. By the time Carl and the Reppublicans are done with Obama he won’t know which end is up. Every time the media got tough with Obama his supporters scramed ‘foul’. And just who is going to care when Carl and the Republican party starts in? And they will dig it all up. Go through all of his baggage. We ‘aint seen nuthin’ yet!
Hillary has withstood the Republicans and all of their tricks. She will be the one to withstand the barrage that the Republicans will throw at the Democratic candidate. We Democrats have been much kinder to Obama than the Republicans will be. Check out he Republican Party sites/blogs. They are starting already and have a good deal of ammunition.
Obama is unelectable. Hillary is my first choice. If she is not chosen as the candidate to run, McCain will get my vote. He is an honorable man, a Patriot, he truly cares about this country. Not a hint of any ‘Anti-American’ in his or Cindy McCain’s behavior.

Posted by: SM | May 7, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

“McCain has been my senator forever and I’d vote for a chimpanzee before I’d vote him into the White House.”-
Posted by: AZ Gal | May 7, 2008 12:21:44 PM
So, you admit you voted for Bush…

Posted by: syncusuc | May 7, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Time to change party, the Dem is dead. History will repeat again. This time will be the Patriot votes which will give the White House to GOP again in the coming November 04. As a registered Dem, I will be proud to vote for GOP candidate for the first time in my life.

Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

It looks like staniam is an Operation Chaos operative. He is trolling numerous blogs at the same time:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/the-numbers-are.html

Posted by: Agi | May 7, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Look its OVER..OVER HILLARY is now just like being in a bad relationship and the other person can’t let go..that’s her..’
Hillary is making things worse for the DEMS..SOMETIMES as I’m watching this race I think she would sacrifice the Dem Party if she didn’t win..
Look Hillary has losed and if she is in the race still is to HOPE THAT something will come on OBAMA is ridiculous..
Hillary has a worse back ground with back rooms dealing and knowing and dealing with criminals than OBAMA ever could.
ITS OVER
What Obama needs to do now is to beat Hillary Clinton at her own game..She’s now is West Virgina trying to get feel sorry for me votes. This is a mistake on Obama he should be in WV right now speaking and so on..
This is what Hillary wants is for people to want her to get out than she can get people to feel sorry for her
People in WV or white woman..
Than she can win..
Its the same old politics same old thing
Obama should just keep moving on because the nominee is his and don’t let her get those I feel sorry for Hillary

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Betty
Im sorry its just a thing called a democracy wrapped in a republic he will just have to wait to be crowned till the convention

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

McCain yesterday announced that there will be a litmus test on his judicial nominees. It took years in the 1930′s to get rid of the very conservative court. Give McCain four years and there will be 7-2 judicial majorities for limiting abortion rights, expanding the rights of business interests over individuals, for increasing the right of the government and business to impose on our privacy and to insure that there continues to be an irrational approach to gun owners rights.
I know I have said nothing about policy for which I believe Obama and Clinton are rather similar. Sometimes when I listen to McCain I wonder if the light is still burning upstairs. Other times he sounds exactly like The Club for Growth which is opposed to a balance budget and for the exclusive promotion of entrepreneurs, so much so that it seems to be a recording.
That is John McCain.

Posted by: Ron M | May 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

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Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

I keep reading all these dillusional clinton supporters who keep talking crap about Obama cant win in November..HE IS WINNING!!! He is not just winning by small margins but KICKING HER TEETH IN!! He has won 6 states by huge double digit numbers in small states, red states , blue states and BIG STATES!! Stop making excuses for your candidate. SHE LOST and SHE IS BROKE!! Except it and start ralling around obama. Any idiot can see that clinton can’t claim to be the better candidate against mcaain when she can’t even win the primary against Obama. WAKE UP!! The American People have SPOKEN we DO NOT WANT ANOTHER CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE!! PERIOD!

Posted by: Lanae | May 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

stock…then be proud whent he country falls into a depressiona and we continue a war for the next 10 years and 8000 more lives…

Posted by: thetruth | May 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

NAT Turner
No it will be mandatory that she be offered the VP slot but she probably wont accept thats the way it is

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

There are substantial reasons why Hillary Clinton’s supporters won’t support Ob. In the beginning of the campaign, his supporters threw a lot of hatred towards Hillary through website blogs. That hatred has stayed and make many people dislike profoundly Ob. The media for some reasons mistreated her throughout the campaign. That’s unfair. If one reads some newspaper’s analysis, one doesn’t feel right about Ob. All the money flooding, not just people support. Why do Hedge Fund speculators rather support him? Talk about the new policy. People who want to have their share if he is elected, rather support him because the Clintons already have their connections. That’s how it works in politics. Don’t tell me he is not a politician.
Beside, the american model “self-made man” seems to fade away behind Ob. The idea he is a symbol is correct. Would he put his money into the campaign he is doesn’t have all that money support? Michelle once said she agreed for him to run because every thing is planned and well, securing him a big chance for winning the nomination.
There is some kind of conspiracy behind the scene. I don’t like that. And I understand people who don’t want to vote for him should he be the nominee.

Posted by: jane | May 7, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

thetruth
I doubt BO the (little m)messiah can bring us out of all that its fair game to talk about it ahnd we will continue to do so

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Look it is over! Obama lost the tiebreaker. Why is Axlerod and his cronies moving the goalpoasts again?

Posted by: Tyrone | May 7, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Jane
you are also correct its like forrest and the tree thing its there and it taking place even though we can see it or hear it these people are deluded at best and Im a lil sick of it

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

People on the Republican party side or Hillary Clinton can post all day long.
BUT ITS OVER.
Hillary never truly had a chance but what she was hoping for was OBAMA to fail or to fall. over something..
That’s how she intended to win..
ITS OVER..I LOOK at her and say to myself just get out..support OBAMA and bring this party together there are bigger issue than just thinking about yourself..
This world is bigger and the issue are bigger than HIllary Clinton..so get out..Stop trying to get Feel Sorry me Votes..
Look its OVER..OVER HILLARY is now just like being in a bad relationship and the other person can’t let go..that’s her..’
Hillary is making things worse for the DEMS..SOMETIMES as I’m watching this race I think she would sacrifice the Dem Party if she didn’t win..
Look Hillary has losed and if she is in the race still is to HOPE THAT something will come on OBAMA is ridiculous..
Hillary has a worse back ground with back rooms dealing and knowing and dealing with criminals than OBAMA ever could.
ITS OVER
What Obama needs to do now is to beat Hillary Clinton at her own game..She’s now is West Virgina trying to get feel sorry for me votes. This is a mistake on Obama he should be in WV right now speaking and so on..
This is what Hillary wants is for people to want her to get out than she can get people to feel sorry for her
People in WV or white woman..
Than she can win..
Its the same old politics same old thing
Obama should just keep moving on because the nominee is his and don’t let her get those I feel sorry for Hillary VOTES

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

I remember when they said Obama was too black to win, and then they said he wasn’t black enough to win. It’s great that ordinary citizens are seeing his potential to bring this country together and begin cleaning up the bush/cheney mess. It’s great that these ordinary citizens have funded his campaign unlike most other candidates. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 7, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

There has been little if any news on the MSM that an environmentalist group, Friends of the Earth has endorsed Obama. Oregon is an environmentalist state and all polls I have read put Obama in a comfortable lead there. It is virtually impossible, mathematically, for Clinton to win at this point. Even as an Obama supporter I don’t like the situation with FL and MI, yet they broke the rules, all the candidates knew and agreed that their votes wouldn’t count, Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot in MI, and many people from those states have spoken to say they didn’t vote at all because they knew it wasn’t going to count. There is simply no fair way to allocate these delegates, barring a total re-vote. Clinton’s constant clamoring about changing rules in the middle of the game remind me of my 4 yr. old grandkids. Her opportunity to change the rules was back before this all happened. All candidates knew equally before declaring their intention to run what the rules of the Dem. party were.

Posted by: Carrie | May 7, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Lanae
come back and say that on June 2nd we wil think about it NOT UNTIL THEN!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Stanium –
It doesn’t matter as long as we excluded Democrats do everything we can to make sure Obama never becomes president. I probably will work for McCain also although I live in CA which McCain won’t win so sending a donation that McCain could spend in battleground states seemed to make more sense.
Go McCain!!! Go Hillary in 2012!!!

Posted by: Political Realist | May 7, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Hillary, please take this opportunity to get out. If it were close I would want you to stay in the race and fight, but you cant win now. Please dont tear the party apart because of your own desire for power. People say Obama has little experience, but this inexperienced candidate ran a race that has defeated you and all your experience. After February, I wanted the Dream Ticket, now I think you will hurt the chances of any democrat. I hope that you will seriously consider the party and not yourself. And for all Clinton supports who refuse to vote for Obama, that is your choice, but Obama and Clinton had more in common than McCain has. So basically you will cut off your nose to spite your face. Are you crazy or just insane.

Posted by: Kim | May 7, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life. You all just have to face the facts that there are Dems that will never support Obama. You’ll need to start buttering up the imaginary Obamacans or whatever they are called to get the votes that Obama will need in the GE.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

stan…don’t fool yourself, no matter who gets in there it will be tough…I never said it was easy…

Posted by: thetruth | May 7, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Stay on, Hillary. Obama is a tainted candidate: dishonest, inexperienced in governing arts, a poor model of right behavior. Just look at his associates and his 20 year church career. He is not even a true African-American – his wife is. He does not descend from former slaves and never lived in the black ghetto. The only thing he shares with true African-Americans – and this only partially -, is the color of his skin.

Posted by: Luis | May 7, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Carrie
the process should run it self out we will see who wins the next primaries but they must go forward and it will be litigated if FL and MI are not seated I suppose

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

This Obama guy is different. His campaign is on it. He is going to kick McCain’s ass in the fall. American people are not going to watch six months of Reverand Wright footage being played over and over without there being a backlash against old politics.
I thought it might be close, but now I feel that Obama is the real deal and he will destroy the out of touch, boring, incompetant pilot, McCain.

Posted by: billy smith | May 7, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

More things to watch:
Both prosecution and defense have rested in the Rezko trial. Note, Rezko presented no witnesses for the defense, instead resting on “presentation of the defense through cross-examination of prosecution witnesses.”
I expect guilty verdicts in this case to most of the charges.
Thereafter there will be what is termed a pre-sentence investigation report. The sentencing range usually is point based and Rezjo can get reduction in points for substantial cooperation. Of course, the points will be “more substantial” for delivering the goods on significant political figures. There is great incentive for Rezko to deliver on this. I think the fact that he presented no defense essentially supports the defense strategy to seek mitigation of the sentence. Even after actual sentencing there is another opportunity procedurally for substantial cooperation. So, the decsion on that could come much later.
Just my musings and could be Obama has nothing at all to worry about, but . . .

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 7, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

thetruth
I know Im ust saying its ridiculous that BO would look at every problem and fix it by osmosis! he is just like everyone else as far as ability its unfair to put him above other peopel when he is just another senator

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Watching her now. She is still now putting emphasis on taxing the oil companies–basically saying that she knows the tax reduction was simplistic. She seems to be talkin’ at ya not to ya.
“We have to fight em” rhetoric instead of let’s do what’s right. Seems to be offering freebies.

Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 7, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

well speaking from a republician view of this. It amases me of how all you Democrates act like a spoilt bunch of brats who becasue you dont get your way you want to throw a tantrin.. Laughing as i write this. Let me get this now if Hillary is the canidate then Obama followers say they want vote for her. If he gets to be the canidate then her followers want vote for him.. God you sound like a bunch of kids who need to figure out that 1 of your canidates can not win without the other and this goes both ways. If you take Hillarys voters out of the campaign then Obama cant win against McCain. and if you take Obama’s bigger followers out of the campaign then Hillary cant win either. That would be cutting the votes in half for the Demorcrate party. Which is what my republicians want you to do.. then the Few who will vote for McCain will help him win the election then our economy will be going even farther down the drain. Yes i agree my Republicians has cause this mess what we do not need is another republician to keep the thing going. either demorcrate canidate is going to better than what we have had in the last 8 years. I am a republician and i will vote of either one if them over McCain my vote will be for bettering the economy not helping someone destroy it more. so all you who are throwing the tantrin you need to go and buy a tank of gas and then see who has caused that tank to cost you so much. When you take hundreds of billions of dollars out of the economy and send it to another county then your country will die. this is what is happening with the use. so if you want 8 more years go and cast your vote out of anger to another republician. For ever tantrin playing demorcrate vote you cast for him there will be a angry republician voting for a demorcrate belice me cause i am one of them.

Posted by: ken | May 7, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Let me tell YOU GUYS HOW THE REPUBLICAN PLAN ON TRYING TO WIN
AS WE GET CLOSER TO NOV YOU WILL SEE MORE SCARE TACTICS..
THAT’S HOW WE GOT INTO THE IRAQ
THEY WILL TRY TO SCARE TACTICS…GET READY..
YOU WILL SEE MORE OF THIS HAPPENING AND THAT HAPPENING..
THE REPUBLICANS ARE OLD POLITICS..
JOHN MCCAIN WILL LOSE BUT YOU CAN’T BET YOUR LIFE ON IT THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TRY TO SCARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE..
SCARE THEM INTO VOTING FOR THEM

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Florida and Michigan votes should NOT be counted.
There are rules and regulations to everything we do in life and why should Hillary Clinton be an exception to that rule?
This is the problem in a nutshell with the Clinton’s they think that THEY are the exception to every rule that all the rest of us law abiding citizens of America have to obey.
Over 17+ million people (white, black, latino, Italian, asian, jewish, etc) have cast their votes and voted for Obama. To insinuate that all 17+ million voters were ALL black is lunacy.
CA for mccain – I don’t know where you have been but…read a history book.
WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR WHITE PEOPLE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE ELECTION PROCESS.
If anything, Black people are being made to feel ashamed of the fact that Barack Obama is black! Never mind the blatant fact he is one of the best candidates America has seen in years.
We all know for a FACT if Barack Obama was a 100% white man…Hillary Clinton would have dropped out after 12 straight losses and the main stream media pundits which is 99.5% white men would have pushed her out a long time ago. Stop being hypocrites.

Posted by: nicky1228 | May 7, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Hillary was on tv. She looks beat but then again she has a killer travel schedule. Did like her “come from behind win in Indiana” line. What game changed? Seems the same to me.

Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 7, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Obama is going to need the support of the gun and bible clingers to win the GE. Oh the irony.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Oscar
if we cant give opinions on Obama do not critique Hillary!

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

note to the dnc… what are you thinking/ you know who he is now and what he really thinks and you still
haven’t stood up for hillary who has her heart and soul in this which i don’t think he has any of, soul, i mean. don’t be so weak as to not vote foe the strongest candidate, not the slickest one.

Posted by: joyce | May 7, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

do you guys really want a person who cant even run a campaign without it going broke and havng to loan it money to run our countrys problems. wow she is so quickly to want to drop the gas tax off knowing all the things that it will hurt and cause. so i guess she will get in office and throw us out a rebate check ever few weeks to keep us happy. I DONT want a person who cant manage their own campaign to run my country.

Posted by: sam | May 7, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

TIm
no I never voted for Bush if you Obama people dont turn down the rhetoric you wont get enough hillary vote I promise you

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

THERE ARE ALOT OF REPUBLICANS ON THIS BLOG..
DEMS REMEMBER THEIR STRATEGY WHICH IS THE
SCARE TACTICSS
OH THERE COMING TO GET US..
I SAY AROUND AUG,,IT WILL START.

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Please, by all means count Michigan and Florida as is. It will still leave Obama with more delegates, more popular votes, more states one, etc.
The game changer folks are talking about is the death of all of Clintons arguments for winning. Obama got enough of a spread in net delegates and net popular votes last night that she can’t possibly beat him in any category.
She’s left with asking superdelegates to vote en masse for the candidate who has lost in delegates, votes, caucuses, primaries, states, independents, republican crossovers, fundraising, and every other conceivable measure of victory. She’s lost that 10% chance of winning everyone’s talked about.
That’s what changed last night.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

I’m one of the many Clinton supporters who won’t vote for Obama if he’s the nominee. I’d be tempted to vote for McCain except for the judges issue, therefore I’d likely stay home. People don’t get that the reason so many Clinton supporters won’t vote for Obama is because they don’t think he’s ready to be president. Personally I don’t think he’s got the mental fortitude for the job, that he’d be another George Bush who just frays at the seams. The stress of the presidency requires fortitude: mental, physical and spiritual, and I think Obama’s lacking on more than one front.
There have been several accounts of Obama making mistakes, not knowing the day/time/place on the campaign trail, observations that he’s out-of-it, disconnected and tired. Just Monday he called Matt Lauer “Tim” three times during a Today Show interview. These may be minor things but they are telling — and let me just say it takes one to know one. I think he’s got low energy and an attention problem. He’s the absent-minded professor who always loses his paperwork, he’s indecisive, bored by mundane details, restless for new things and performs inconsistently. I think Michelle Obama has been very helpful in organizing and motivating him. I’m sure he’s super-intelligent but I don’t think (ego aside) that he’s got what it takes to be president. In contrast, Hillary Clinton is super high-energy and sharp as a tack; she also happens to be a woman — and it’s time to remember that Obama doesn’t have the market cornered on identity politics. Black voters didn’t take Obama for granted but women voters failed Clinton. Women may be waking up to this fact, hopefully in time. We can still win this for her.

Posted by: Vnd | May 7, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Just pretend to see how the GE ads will be in the fall.
Just imagen the false accusations from the GOP and do you believe after the wright and ayers fiasco that Obama will win any RED states? do you believe that the white rural folks are just going to flock to him?
Be serious and realistic. Obama has a serious issue and dilemma in front of him. He has segregated the rural communities and older whites who are very set in their minds. If he can’t get that core Reagan democrats his race is over. The GOP got what the wanted a radical liberal trying to get the gun tooting rural whites to go for him. They have succeeded in destroying any chance for him to ever win a RED state again.
The media love affair with Obama is going to hurt him when the ads begin to show on every network painting obama as a UNPATRIOTIC American, etc..the list goes on. I think Obama people should not be too quick to the gun and declare this race over because it is not.
This has been all about race and If Obama did not have the black vote in the tank he would not be where he is today. That’s a fact, numbers don’t lie.
Everyone needs to chill out and try to look ahead at how really can be the best candidate to destroy the repulicans in the fall.
I doubt its obama.

Posted by: my 2 cents | May 7, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

how can anyone see mccain as a war hero when we weren’t at war? what mccain was was a guy who flew a hi tech war plane and bombed low tech people, men, women and children; for what? mccain got caught in the act and had to take a sit down for a few years. he’s lucky he wasn’t a captive of “our side” because we threw guys like him out of hellicopters above the china sea.

Posted by: saint peter II | May 7, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

THE Dems on this blog who say they aren’t going to vote for OBAMA
THAN DON’T..
YOUR reason for being a DEM is not what the party needs So Vote for MCCAIN…
SO any DEMS WHO say I’M VOTING FOR MCCAIN
LOOK OTHER DEMS WHO DEVOTED TO THIS PARTY NO MATTER WHAT
SAY TO THEM GO AHEAD..VOTE MCCAIN…WE DON’T NEED YA
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE PARTY OF SCARE TACTICS
SCARE OLD PEOPLE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
SCARE AMERICA ABOUT AN ATTACK..
SCARE SCARE SCARE IS ALL THEY HAVE THIS FALL TO TRY TO BEAT OBAMA AND
OBAMA JUST KEEP TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT’S WHAT THEY WILL DO…
THERE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME BEATING OBAMA

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Thetruth pos: “stock…then be proud whent he country falls into a depressiona and we continue a war for the next 10 years and 8000 more lives”
I don’t think McCain could be worst the G. Bush. At least, we know his background and what he is stands for. By the way, how much did you know about Senator Obama beside a boring chanting “CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE” but even himself can’t change the church he go to for 20 years.

Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

I’m a hillary fan and if she gets treated like dirt by the media or the Obama people. My vote will go for Mccain.
I think both candidates need to chill out!
the MEDIA is set on Obama its not fair
I will not vote for Obama if FL or MI are not counted. My vote will go for Mccain

Posted by: switch | May 7, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Betty
I just wont vote for him and I think some peopel feel the same way and we will see how it turns out no name calling

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Democrats love Hilliary and Obamama! It’ Bush and the stale old Republican party we’re sick of!

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

THAN DON’T..FOR OBAMA
WE DON’T NEED YA..
OBAMA HAS BROUGHT MANY NEW VOTERS TO THE PROCESS IN THE END EITHER YOU ARE A TRUE DEM OR NOT…
THE Dems on this blog who say they aren’t going to vote for OBAMA
THAN DON’T..
YOUR reason for being a DEM is not what the party needs So Vote for MCCAIN…
SO any DEMS WHO say I’M VOTING FOR MCCAIN
LOOK OTHER DEMS WHO DEVOTED TO THIS PARTY NO MATTER WHAT
SAY TO THEM GO AHEAD..VOTE MCCAIN…WE DON’T NEED YA
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE PARTY OF SCARE TACTICS
SCARE OLD PEOPLE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
SCARE AMERICA ABOUT AN ATTACK..
SCARE SCARE SCARE IS ALL THEY HAVE THIS FALL TO TRY TO BEAT OBAMA AND
OBAMA JUST KEEP TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT’S WHAT THEY WILL DO…
THERE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME BEATING OBAMA

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

NO vp for that lady.She is broke does that tell you no one is going to donate to a champaign that can’t win that can’t even do the math.For God sakes what is wrong with her does she not know it is time to get out…She is a sad mess.Billy won’t be in the white house again…..yahooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: older person | May 7, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Obama will never win in the fall.
There is so much dirt on this guy to scare enough white Americans that will switch to Mccain after the GOP attack machine roles out their Oscar worthy Ads….ohhh the fiasco and scandals we are about to witness…
Good Luck Barack Hussein Obama in the fall! you got the radicals and the media behind you but not the CORE democrats the nucleus of the democrats are going to flock to Mccain

Posted by: fiasco fall | May 7, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Betty
again we will see how it turns out but dont try to push your side because thats unseemly

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

once again all you obamabots please do not say things that are taunting it will not help your cause

Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

I remember how the republican machine went after Mr. and Mrs. John Kerry. Do any of you remember that? Imagine how they will go after Mr. and Mrs. Obama. Rezko, Chicago corrupt politics, personally supporting Rev. Wright for 20 years, Ayers support of political running, “first time in adult life to be proud”, etc. Won’t the democrats just love to see it happen all over again – just like with the Kerry’s. And with a percentage of the democrats not voting for the president on NOvember, just voting for their local and state democrats, McCain will win the presidency; democrats will take over the house and senate, then the real fireworks will go off. Thank you DNC, Carl Levin, and Barack Obama for not having re-dos and not accepting the votes as made. Thank you so much for the destruction of the democrat party.

Posted by: Kim | May 7, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

I can’t wait to see the Guilt by Association Ads on Obama in the FALL
He is going to loose. You guys keep ripping Hillary apart and shredding her.
Come fall OBAMA is TOAST! you really believe he will get the majority of the rural whites? DREAM ON!

Posted by: GOP attack machine | May 7, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Staniam I don’t you..but based on your comments on this blog and all the other DEMS WHO SAY I will vote for OBAMA if Hillary doesn’t win..
Than I say..
THAN DON’T..FOR OBAMA
WE DON’T NEED YA..
OBAMA HAS BROUGHT MANY NEW VOTERS TO THE PROCESS IN THE END EITHER YOU ARE A TRUE DEM OR NOT…
THE Dems on this blog who say they aren’t going to vote for OBAMA
THAN DON’T..
YOUR reason for being a DEM is not what the party needs So Vote for MCCAIN…
SO any DEMS WHO say I’M VOTING FOR MCCAIN
LOOK OTHER DEMS WHO DEVOTED TO THIS PARTY NO MATTER WHAT
SAY TO THEM GO AHEAD..VOTE MCCAIN…WE DON’T NEED YA
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE PARTY OF SCARE TACTICS
SCARE OLD PEOPLE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
SCARE AMERICA ABOUT AN ATTACK..
SCARE SCARE SCARE IS ALL THEY HAVE THIS FALL TO TRY TO BEAT OBAMA AND
OBAMA JUST KEEP TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT’S WHAT THEY WILL DO…
THERE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME BEATING OBAMA

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Staniam
I LOVE CLINTON! I LOVE OBAMA! THE DEMS HAVE NO LOSERS. THE ONLY LOSERS HERE ARE REBUPLICANS.

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

There are many Obama people continuing to attack Hillary Clinton.
I say to those Obama supporters that the Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama in November. And you will need us to win. The Obama supporter attacks against Hillary will not work.
There is no way that Obama can win in November. No way.

Posted by: Jacob | May 7, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

~~I’m a hillary fan and if she gets treated like dirt by the media or the Obama people. My vote will go for Mccain.~~
Anybody that claims they are willing to vote for McCain if their Democratic nominee loses is probably too ignorant to figure why they want their candidate to win in the first place. This is the stupidest thing I have heard yet.

Posted by: Patrick | May 7, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

I’ve always doubted if the people who say they’ll switch to McCain are really democrats or actually Republicans pretending to be Democrats.
The proof? The democratic platform will be identical for 95% of either candidates platform.
John McCain’s platform will be 100% opposed to every point on the Democratic platform.
Voting for McCain is voting to continue the War, cut taxes for the rich, hold people without trial and torture them, attack more countries in the name of oil, eliminate employer paid healthcare so noone is insured, and on and on and on.
If you’re seriously ok with that platform, you never had any intention of voting Dem in the first place. Every time you threaten to go with McCain, you reveal yourself to be an undercover Republican.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Yes Republicans will be turning out in droves to vote for the radical, far left candidate with ties to domestic terrorists and that has an America hating preacher. What’s in that Kool-aid?

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

If HIllary Clinton truly meant what she said in her stump speeches – “This election is not about me, it’s about you,” then she would stop campaigning and support Obama who has clearly – in numbers alone – won the nomination. Hillary continues to campaign becuase of her pride . What the Democratic Party needs is solidarity behind Obama, stat. This man has taken everything the Clinton campaign has thrown at him, and continues to win primaries. That’s the kind of person we need to defeat the Republican party. NOT a candidate that’s just barely squeaking by, and continually falls behind in the popular and delegate votes.

Posted by: crazyvirgo | May 7, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

ANYONE HERE FROM THE OBAMA CAMP
TELL HIM TO GET HIS… TO WV..KEEP WORKING HARD..
DON’T LET HILLARY GET THE FEEL SORRY FOR ME VOTES..TAKE CHARGE..NOW..
People on the Republican party side or Hillary Clinton can post all day long.
BUT ITS OVER.
Hillary never truly had a chance but what she was hoping for was OBAMA to fail or to fall. over something..
That’s how she intended to win..
ITS OVER..I LOOK at her and say to myself just get out..support OBAMA and bring this party together there are bigger issue than just thinking about yourself..
This world is bigger and the issue are bigger than HIllary Clinton..so get out..Stop trying to get Feel Sorry me Votes..
Look its OVER..OVER HILLARY is now just like being in a bad relationship and the other person can’t let go..that’s her..’
Hillary is making things worse for the DEMS..SOMETIMES as I’m watching this race I think she would sacrifice the Dem Party if she didn’t win..
Look Hillary has losed and if she is in the race still is to HOPE THAT something will come on OBAMA is ridiculous..
Hillary has a worse back ground with back rooms dealing and knowing and dealing with criminals than OBAMA ever could.
ITS OVER
What Obama needs to do now is to beat Hillary Clinton at her own game..She’s now is West Virgina trying to get feel sorry for me votes. This is a mistake on Obama he should be in WV right now speaking and so on..
This is what Hillary wants is for people to want her to get out than she can get people to feel sorry for her
People in WV or white woman..
Than she can win..
Its the same old politics same old thing
Obama should just keep moving on because the nominee is his and don’t let her get those I feel sorry for Hillary VOTES

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

No Clinton nomination. No vote for Obama. It’s about principles stupid. And Obama’s are as far to the left as Bush’s are to the right.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | May 7, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

‘CA for Mccain’, so you’re going to tell your kids the way to become President is to pander to the public with a gas tax holiday no economist will support? Joke about bombing Iran by singing “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran”? Confuse Sunnis and Shias on a regular basis? Continue “business as usual” domestically?
I expect your kids are way too smart to fall for that.

Posted by: Tom J | May 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Republicans only hope is to mention Obama’s middle name a bunch? THANKS TO BUSH AMERICANS HAVE SMARTEN UP IN THE LAST 7 YEARS. Rebuplican propaganda and scare tactics will only hurt their party!

Posted by: Tim | May 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Nothing surprises me from these relentless, overinflated windbags running the Clinton campaign. Clinton can’t win even with one of the most recognized brand names in politics and a popular expresident in her corner!
She can’t seal the deal EVER!!!! Her only influence in this election is to spoil it for the eventual nominee, Barak Obama.
She and her whole team are as delusional as the Bush Administration (“We’re winning in Iraq!”). IN fact, she reminds me more and more of the Bush Administration every day with her gas-tax cut gimmick and her SUFFERING SUCCOTASH WE’RE GOING TO OBLITERATE IRAN!
The whole Clinton team should crawl back into whatever hole they crawled out of.

Posted by: obie | May 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Fact: McCain won’t get Ron Paul supporters anti-war,anti-patriot act vote.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

ALL DEMS HERE.. LISTEN..SPREAD THE WORD AROUND
THIS IS WHAT THE REPUBLICAN ARE PLANNING
HELL THIS IS ALL THEY GOT..
READ
OBAMA HAS BROUGHT MANY NEW VOTERS TO THE PROCESS IN THE END EITHER YOU ARE A TRUE DEM OR NOT…
THE Dems on this blog who say they aren’t going to vote for OBAMA
THAN DON’T..
YOUR reason for being a DEM is not what the party needs So Vote for MCCAIN…
SO any DEMS WHO say I’M VOTING FOR MCCAIN
LOOK OTHER DEMS WHO DEVOTED TO THIS PARTY NO MATTER WHAT
SAY TO THEM GO AHEAD..VOTE MCCAIN…WE DON’T NEED YA
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE PARTY OF SCARE TACTICS
SCARE OLD PEOPLE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
SCARE AMERICA ABOUT AN ATTACK..
SCARE SCARE SCARE IS ALL THEY HAVE THIS FALL TO TRY TO BEAT OBAMA AND
OBAMA JUST KEEP TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT’S WHAT THEY WILL DO…
THERE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME BEATING OBAMA

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

As a legacy admission, Senator McCain finished number 894 out of 899 in his graduating class from the Naval Academy in Annapolis. 5th from the bottom of his class, and he admittedly didn’t care! He was a rebellious hard-drinking hellraiser. This should remind you of Bush, except that Bush doesn’t have a volatile temper like McCain does. Bush, as a pilot, never crashed three different military jets like McCain did, two of which were stateside, including one in Corpus Christi bay! He may have sold out as a POW (let the vetting begin), comes back and abandons his wife (who to this day refuses to support his presidential aspirations). He cheats on his wife, marries an incredibly rich woman, with a drug problem, successfully gets elected as Senator as a POW/war hero, repeatedly alienates and distances himself from his republican senate colleagues, ingratiates himself with the liberal press because of the latter, and now expects us to make him our second stupid president in a row? In the middle of two wars and a recession? Good luck with that.

Posted by: Amy | May 7, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

I was channel surfing last night and I came across Karl Rove on Fox TV talking about the Electoral College. Remember that? Well, it looks like Obama has his work cut out for him. Of all the caucuses he won, the states will be in the Republican colume in the Fall. Because he hasn’t done well with white, rural voters in those states, is telling. People want Hillary to throw in the towel and I’m sure at some point in June she will gracefully exit. But as Rev. Wright would say. “The chickens will come home to roost”. Obama will lose the general election.

Posted by: Lois, California | May 7, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Obama IS the Nominee get over it and get with it! Clinton is the only one who doesn’t realize this. Besides I’m one of the young voters she has been bashing for the past two months at least Obama never insulted her supporters.

Posted by: Joe | May 7, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

all the caucuses obama won will never be won again!
the electoral math is impossible for Hussein obama.
get over it. Obama is a lost cause and will destroy the democrats. The divide he has created and age gap between his fans and hillarys well, his going to loose!

Posted by: lost cause | May 7, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Clinton supporters,
Please join us in helping change this country. We understand your frustration right now — the media has done a horrific job of covering this race on both sides.
One team, one fight. We’re all in this together, and we welcome you to help in this fight, much like you would welcome us if things played out the other way.

Posted by: nic | May 7, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

First I am American, second I support the democratic cause, third I believe Obama is the best candidate of the three major candidates. That said, I think Hillary should privately agree with Obama and the DNC to drop out if, 1.) she can be see negotiating seating FL and MI and Obama agrees to it, 2.) she will continue campaigning but both
Obama and Hillary be very complementary to each other and attack the heck out of McCain, 3.) Hillary takes the tough politician road against McCain and Obama takes the unity approach against McCain, 4.) Hillary will end campaign financially whole, 5.) Hillary gets something out of it, like lead democrat in senate, 6.) Obama takes a woman VP. The one two punch from O & H would overwhelm McCain. Both O & H images would improve. H shows how strong and relevant she is. A woman as VP breaks another glass ceiling.

Posted by: X marks the spot | May 7, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Age gap not a problem in the general election. No one over 65 will vote for Republican privatizing SS after the Market fiasco of Bush policies. They will take Obama over McCain, unless they are Republican. But the Democrats who didn’t switch for the “OC” primary..will vote Democrat. They didn’t live that long by being stupid.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Clinton supporters,
We do need YOU to win. If you vote for McCain, then we all lose. I’ve lost too many friend to a useless war (I just seperated from the Air Force), and this thing needs to end. WE DO NEED YOU. We can’t do this without you…we need your passion and talents to help us change this country!

Posted by: nic | May 7, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

A win for Obama is a win for the world especially the middle east
a win for obama is a win for all the radicals around the world.
a win for Obama is a loss for defending USA.
Obama wake up you have tarnished your reputation and we can sum up your shady associations in a 60 sec ad on national TV. that will be enough to FREAK out the voters.
more to come…

Posted by: Tim the republican | May 7, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

I am a white male in my thirties in California and I voted for Obama because I want this country to move forward and stop living in fear. Blacks have had to vote for a white candidate since the beginning of this country and now that a viable and legitemate candidate comes along, the old, tired Democratic white voting class is so scared that a black man might actually be a competent nominee for the party that they are willing to sell their political ideologies and vote Republican just to keep him out of office. This is shameful and shows just how uneducated our country is. I suspect many haters are Republicans as they are the ones engaging in unethical acts such as switching parties in the primaries to vote for Clinton. I don’t hate Clinton, or McCain for that matter, but its time for change. This country needs real change from an outsider. Time for America to live up to its ideologies.

Posted by: CJ | May 7, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

All this talk about the Republicans can’t scare the big bad Obamacons misses the entire point.
Obama has no record or real experience. His only achievement to speak of is a record breaking campaign that has united 1/2 of the Democratic Party.
John McCain is a hero. He has a record of reaching across the aisle. He has been more active at legislation and forming coalitions than any Democrat. McCain is the one that stood up to Bush and denounced torture and insisted on campaign reform against the 527′s….John McCain will target Hillary’s supporters in the general election.
You know who I mean? The center of America…. The older voters and blue collar voters and the majority of women….the 14 million people that Obamacons think are not required by Democrats to win in Nov….
You can hope all you want to but you will not get to change anything unless and until the left starts respecting the center.
Kerry did not lose because Republicans attacked him…he lost because he failed to win the center of the political spectrum where most of us live.
Pundits can talk their talk and Obama can draw big crowds…but even with new voter registration McCain will win in Nov if FL and MI are slapped down by Obama and Hillary’s supporters continue to be disrespected…Enjoy your ride Obama.

Posted by: JA | May 7, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

What is wrong with most of you people?
This party system has brain washed most of you. It does not matter who is republican or democrate.The Best Person for the job should be elected. We also have a system of check and balances, the reason we are in the position we are in today is voters threw off that system by voting all republicans in the house and senete. Giving Bush a free hand to do what ever he wanted. Will it be any better with all being democratic?? I do not think so power, is a terrible thing and everytime we give anyone absolute power we the people end up getting screwed.

Posted by: Pat | May 7, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

My 78 year old father-in-law, who fought in korea, and who has voted republican all his life is switching his party affiliation because he does not like how the last 7.5 years have gone. Very interesting…..I just wonder if anyone is polling this group of voters. I really can’t see how Obama can lose to mc-more-war who will be trying to let go of those bush coattails. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 7, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

For all those who are stating that Obama will lose the general election because support will shift to McCain or that rural white voters won’t support him, I am utterly disgusted! But I will say I believe in approaching challenges one obstacle at a time. In this instance, it is closing out this primary season. I am convinced that anyone (whatever race) who is willing to support John McCain, a candidate who has clearly backed Bush policies that have us in our present economic condition, deserves whatever his candidacy would bring to the US. If that means more youth being sent to war, more people being put out of their homes, and even higher gas prices, yet people are still willing to traitorously support McCain’s presidency, then “what will be will be.”

Posted by: Maurice Davis | May 7, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

MEMO TO OBAMA
Obama remember this is not a popularty contest…history tells us how Al Gore lost.
Remember your smile and charm is not enough in GE. you have an empty record and won the senate seat through a scandal.

Posted by: not a popularity contest | May 7, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

I find it interesting for all of the talk of the dems and how they will rescue this country. First they have had controll of bouth houses since the last mid term elections and what have they produced. Little or nothing. Very political instead of offering some real change. I am very dissappointed Bush and his lack of making a difference. But to think that turning tward socialism by either dem. candidate is not the ansewer. Also tax and spend is not going to work either. You think you dislike govt. now, just wait until you have to depend on them for everything and not have the private sector do what they do best, competitive process and free markets. Hillary wants mandates and Obama wants socialism and both are so liberal they will destroy the economy and the constitution. we need to stop spending like a drunken sailor, stop this open border madness and stop giving away us rights to people who have not followed the law and force those who have to foot the bill. All I hear is what people want and instead they all deserve equal opportunity not a free pass. Hillary scares me with an open check book and Obama does to but in addition add his theology and it is really scary.

Posted by: JM | May 7, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

ALL REPUBLICANS GOT NOW
IS………………..
IS………………..
SCARE TACTICS…………..

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

You know I am a very proud Democrat, but if Obama wins the nomination, I will vote Republican!!!!!

Posted by: Kathy | May 7, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Perhaps the dems have produced nothing is because Bush has the veto power. This will all end when Obama becomes the next President!!!!!

Posted by: Don Hannaford | May 7, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

JA -
Bush won re-election not because the noble and wise middle-ground voted their conscience and Kerry somehow ignored them.
He won becuase he managed to convince them that they should vote against their best interest and those of this country out of fear.
Fear of the big bad Gay agenda
Fear of “liberal” judges who defend our civil rights and keep church and state seperate
Most Importantly, fear for their own cowardly little hides.
That’s right, they voted for the man they KNEW was evil, crooked, and moronic, simply because they thought he presented the best chance to keep their precious keester pristine and free from harm.
Fear often wins against Hope and Decency, Mr. Kerry’s approach. There’s nothing noble about choosing Fear.
Hopefully, they’ve learned their lessons, and will do the right thing this time.
That is unless the big bad imaginary Gay Atheist Terrorists aren’t more important to them than endless war, rampant torture, economic disaster, eroding civil rights, and more.
Show some spine this time guys.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

The race is over and this lifelong Democrat just sent a $50 donation to John McCain. My party has abandoned me so now I’m returning the favor. Go McCain!!! Hillary in 2012!!!!

Posted by: Political Realist | May 7, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Scoreboard:
2025 needed to win
Obama’s state wins 32 lost 16, Delegate count 1843 +/-, Negatives are way down, Better nominee
Clinton’s state wins 16 lost 32,
Delegate count 1679 +/-, Negatives way up. Not a good nominee.
Fund Raising Obama beats Clinton or McCain Expediently.
Registering new voters Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Bring the country together Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Overall, Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Race against McCain, Obama better nominee.
Campaign war chest money:
Obama $50m or more
Clinton in the red ($10m) bankrupted
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Lookup | May 7, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

I’ll vote for the good of the country first and party second. The pendulam swinging from the far right to the far left isn’t the answer.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Joe
Your’ve got to be kidding….Obama has insulted Hillary and attacked her and her supporters in really terrible ways. In the blogs the Obamacons insist that Hillary’s supporters are racist idiots…or “bitter”
Obama owes us all an apology starting with Hillary. Does anyone remember that Hillary was attacked in Obama’s church from the pulpit by Wright?…And the media seems to just ignore that clip. I wonder when Obama is going to apologize to Hillary for that profanity that took place in Dec 2007?

Posted by: JA | May 7, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

McCain has already been “Swiftboated”. He ran against Bush in 2000..and Rove did all the dirty work. He also faced a recall from the same GOP McCain haters. He’s got more baggage than Hillary.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how many people seem to completely miss just how polarizing and divisive Hilary is as a political figure. From the very beginning, it’s been obvious that Rove and the other conservative Republican nominees have been praying for her to be the Democratic nominee — the mere appearance of “Clinton” on any presidential ballot will be enough to FLOOD the Republican coffers with conservative money — even from those evangelicals who were threatening not to vote in the general election because they got saddled with McCain. And that’s not even bringing into account the fact that it’s HILARY Clinton, not Bill — she’s likeable enough as a person, but every time she opens her political mouth on the national stage, she hardens the positions of the far right, and re-energizes the hatred. It’s not her fault, it’s just the unfortunate reality.
Let’s look at this rationally — there are NO republican voters who would vote for Clinton and would not vote for Obama. There are MANY republican voters who would not vote at all in a McCain/Obama race… but who would DEFINITELY vote in a McCain/Clinton race… and not for Clinton.
Rational non-republicans will vote for either Democratic nominee — the number of Democratic non-voters for an Obama candidacy will be a wash with the number of Democratic non-voters for a Clinton candidacy…
So, which makes the most sense? Adding to the number of votes GUARANTEED to go to the opposition (by nominating Hilary), or keeping the same amount of Democratic support and allowing McCain’s soft conservative support to leak away from him (with an Obama candidacy).
Hm?

Posted by: Hans | May 7, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

The DNC needs to keep all of its base on board for the General Election. If it excludes Clinton or Obama, it loses the White House.
No amount of wishing that everybody gets along will change the feeling of alienation that each side will feel if their candidate is excluded. It’s how social psychology works.
The DNC needs to position the democrats to win – not to lose.

Posted by: Griffin | May 7, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Obama/Clinton? Why would Obama give up “change” the key winning element of his strategy? Why counter the possibility of Bush3 with Clinton 2.5? The biggest weakness Obama needs to sure up against McCain will be national security. While the economy is a huge issue now, national security will be back big and large by November. HRC’s hysterical 3am phone call ads aside, she brings very little to the table on that issue. There are others that will help Obama better without her considerable baggage.

Posted by: DMR | May 7, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Folks, the democratic nomination is over. Now we’ve essentially begun the general election campaign.
So, folks who are still bashing on Obama and ranting about how they’d rather vote McCain, are actually campaigning for the Republicans.
Democrats, anti-war centrists, and other folks looking for change, don’t be fooled by these posts. These are not Democrats talking, these are Right Wing Nutjobs, of the Bush/Cheney variety, trying to convince you of some imaginary momentum towards John McCain.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Keep trashing Hillary. Just b/c MSM loves and created Obama does not mean he will have his share of serious venting in the fall especially int he LIVE DEBATES!
He whined and moaned and cried over the ABC debate watch the fall debates when his EMPTY record and associations get vetted thoroughly.
Obama explain why you voted ‘PRESENT’ most of your history in the senate? was that because you wanted to run for president and not have your empty record scrutinized ?

Posted by: whiny baby | May 7, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

I’m a young college educated Black American Male who is a strong Hillary supporter who is going on the record if Obama gets the nomination, I will be voting for Ralph Nader or staying home, but no McCain or Obama under any circumstances, and let the chips fall where they may.
I refuse to unite around the Democratic Party or Obama if Hillary leaves the race for any reason. I just can’t bring myself to vote for an inexperienced candidate like Obama, and I will be leaving the Demcratic Party if Hillary is not the nominee, because are party threw Hillary under the bus for a Johnny come lately Senator, who is too green to effectively tackle and clean-up the mess Bush wil leave behind in 09, as oppose to Hillary who is well qualified to do the job now. I hope this party and Obama suppoters get what they deserve for voting for a inexperienced candidate to do a job that should be done by an experienced candidate to turn this country around, , and my race of people better not complain if things go well, if Obama become the nominee or President, they have gotten what they deserved for voting race over experience.
I hope all strong Hillary Supporters stay Home on election day or vote for another candidate, but not Obama, also consider leaving the party as well and vote gfor Hillary any way as an write in candidate, the media had ben fair and balanced towards all the candidates from the beginning Obama would not have been able to decieve so many people imot supporting his candidancy, but instead, the gender-biased media protected and shielded him from scrutiny,and if Obama had any conversary sourounding him the gender-biased media cleaned it up for him, so I have no more fiath in the Democratic Party or the media to be fiar and balanced when reporting the news, after this election process, I will not be watching anymore of the cable news channels, maybe Fox news from time to time, because they have begun to be more fair and balanced towards both candidates, that’s all I wanted was the news media to report both candidiates fair and balanced and not protect either candidate from scrutiny, challenge both candidates on the issues, so that voters can make a fiar and sound decision on who wold be the best, experienced, quailfied person to be President, not based on race or gender, but instead, thet chose to highlight all of Hillary’s negatives, and downplay Obamas.
I hope Obama socket it to the voters who believe he’s the better candidate to be President, because in the end, they are going to be very sorry that they voted for this particular mixed race candidate to be our Commander and Chief, we have not seen a mess yet until we put this inexperienced candidate in office, this country is going to be in a worser shape than it is now, and please don’t hollier impeach Obama, because you would have gooten what you desevered just roll with the punches and be quite, because you had a chance to prevent this from happening for taking such an ill-informed and irresponsible risk for nominating and putting Obama in the White House in the first place. But I do beleive that McCain is going to stop Obama in his tracks and cause this party to lose the general election, well good enough for us, we need to lose for making such a poor decision for not making a stronger candidate like Hillary to challenge McCain for the Presidency, we will surely lose the chance to take back the White House after the Republican Swift-boat machine get through with Obama, because the media want be able to shield and baby him in the general election.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

If you don’t want to vote for Obama DON”T damn give it up.Support the one who is best for this country.Have you not had enought of Bush years<<<<<<I have.She ran an hard and dirty race but she lost now on with it time to get this into high gear,,,,,,

Posted by: h | May 7, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

You know I am a very proud Democrat, but if Obama wins the nomination, I will vote Republican!!!!!

Posted by: Kathy | May 7, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

so if hillary doesnt pull this off she has to go independant which will take votes away from osama bin ladin and maybe she can win this way….or better yet…..GO MCCAIN!!! he will be better than osama bin ladin when you speak of protecting our country!!! i just dont understand why people are so blind by his associations!!! this speaks louder than words..this country will be terrorized from the inside out and those who voted for this guy can run and try to protect themselves along with their families….pat yourself on the back!!!

Posted by: roger rabbit | May 7, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

I am a repub. and voted for BO yesterday. i will not vote for him in November. I have lived in middle America all my life. I have very little faith in McCain. He is the lesser of the 3 evils. Hillary wins by large margins in rurla and middle America. People in the large cities think they make the decision of who is elected. The only people who will vote for BO are large city dewellers and African Am. He does not speak for middle America. If the war is your beef, you will be sadly mistaken if you think any one of the candidates will pull out immediatley. If we do, you will be paying an unprediable amount for your gas. The middle east is so unstable. if we pull out, an all out war would break out and oil supplies would dry up almost immediately. Then who will we blame for high gas prices?

Posted by: Josh Irvin | May 7, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

“I’ve always doubted if the people who say they’ll switch to McCain are really democrats or actually Republicans pretending to be Democrats.”
Nope. We’re centrist Democrats. We’ve stayed the course with the party but the party has abandoned us.
“The proof? The democratic platform will be identical for 95% of either candidates platform.”
That doesn’t matter. We’ll sit this one out or vote for McCain.
You don’t get it: we are against Obama and Michelle. We are against extremism. You offer us nothing but another four years of chaos and inept government led by amateurs, radicals and mau mauing thugs.
No way. If it is to be another choice of the lesser of two evils, then I’m not choosing either. Let that be on your head.

Posted by: len | May 7, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

The Vice President..is most likely rooting for his cousin
OBAMA..

Posted by: terri | May 7, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

I see what Sen. Clinton has done for me. I don’t want to vote Republican and I damn sure don’t want to vote for Obama. He is so full of himself with no experience. I believe he is the worst one for the job. He has ties with people in the middle east, with very shady people. But if I vote Republican then we are in for the same ole, same ole. No money in our pockets!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kathy | May 7, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Tough choice, which Socialist is better for America?

Posted by: neobaroque | May 7, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

a new Washington Post / ABC Poll says that 54% of the american people have a negative view of Hillary Clinton. A record for a national candidate, and much higher than McCain or Obama’s.
This is not bashing, it’s reality:

Posted by: FaceFacts | May 7, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

jane, The hatred went both ways but began in full force when Hillary implemented her kitchen sink strategy. I am an Independent and was indifferent to Hillary and Obama until then. Heck, I even voted for Bill twice. But a planned strategy of negative attacking against a fellow party just turned me off and motivated me to write negatively on blogs about Hillary. I just found it very hypocritical that the Clintons, who felt persecuted when this was directed their way by Republicans, would use the same tactics as their so-called enemies. HRC supporters may not see that way, but I do.

Posted by: indy_voter | May 7, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Well said Len.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

DarrellP……..you could not have put this in better words……you hit it on the head!!! BRAVO!! BRAVO!!! and for Mark the realist…..the only racial folks in america is the CNN!!! the news media……all they talked about was how many black, and black people were in each state!! so you have it wrong!!!

Posted by: Roger Rabbit | May 7, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

“The proof? The democratic platform will be identical for 95% of either candidates platform.”
That doesn’t matter. We’ll sit this one out or vote for McCain.”
Len – You just conceded that I’m right, that Obama and Clinton match on 95% of everything. Then you go on to say you won’t vote for Obama because he’s too extreme?
So if he’s 95% of a Clinton, and he’s vastly too extreme for you, then Clinton was what, only Very very very much too extreme for you?
You wouldn’t have voted for a dem either way, by your own rationale.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

I’m a young college educated Black American Male who is a strong Hillary supporter who is going on the record if Obama gets the nomination, I will be voting for Ralph Nader or staying home, but no McCain or Obama under any circumstances, and let the chips fall where they may.
I refuse to unite around the Democratic Party or Obama if Hillary leaves the race for any reason. I just can’t bring myself to vote for an inexperienced candidate like Obama, and I will be leaving the Democratic Party if Hillary is not the nominee, because our party threw Hillary under the bus for a Johnny Come lately Senator, who is too green to effectively tackle and clean-up the mess Bush wil leave behind in 09, as oppose to Hillary who is well qualified to do the job now. I hope this party and Obama supporters get what they deserve for voting for a inexperienced candidate to do a job that should be done by an experienced candidate to turn this country around, and my race of people better not complain if things go well, if Obama becomes the Nominee or President, they have gotten what they deserved for voting race over experience.
I hope all strong Hillary Supporters stay home on election day or vote for another candidate, but not Obama, also consider leaving the party as well and vote gfor Hillary any way as an write in candidate, if the media had ben fair and balanced towards all the candidates from the beginning, Obama would not have been able to decieve so many people in to supporting his candidancy, but instead, the gender-biased media protected and shielded him from scrutiny,and if Obama had any controversay surrounding him the gender-biased media cleaned it up for him, so I have no more faith in the Democratic Party or the media to be fair and balanced when reporting the news, after this election process, I will not be watching anymore of the cable news channels, maybe Fox News from time to time, because they have begun to be more fair and balanced towards both candidates, that’s all I wanted was the news media to report both candidiates fair and balanced and not protect either candidate from scrutiny, and challenged both candidates evenly on the issues, so that voters can make a fair and sound decision on who would be the best, experienced, quailfied person to be President, not based on race or gender, but instead, thet chose to highlight all of Hillary’s negatives, and downplay Obamas.
I hope Obama socket it to the voters who believed Obama was the better candidate to be President, because in the end, they are going to be very sorry that they voted for this particular mixed race candidate to be our Commander and Chief, we have not seen a mess yet until we put this inexperienced person in office, this country is going to be in a worser shape than it is now, and please don’t hollier impeach Obama, because you would have recieved what you desevered just roll with the punches and be quite, because you had a chance to prevent this from happening for taking such an ill-informed and irresponsible risk for nominating and putting Obama in the White House in the first place.
But truly believe that McCain is going to stop Obama in his tracks and cause this party to lose the general election, well, good enough for us, we need to lose for making such a poor decision for not making a stronger candidate like Hillary to challenge McCain for the Presidency, we will surely lose the chance to take back the White House after the Republican Swift-boat machine get through with Obama, and the media want be able to shield and baby him in the general election.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

I am a 70 year old white lady who has been following this race closely. There is a classic stupidity in those who bellow that if Obama wins the nominee they will not vote or rather vote for McCain. Go on sell your country for your pathetic egos and bunch of liars (Bill and Hillary). You will soon be sleeping hungry! Reason out, there will be no more Clinton in the White House so stop living in the past. Let’s put race aside and help boost this young dynamic man Obama. Win, he will, either you choose it or not! Without your votes, he will get our votes. I was a Clinton supporter until I saw their fakeness and bogus campaigns on critism, faulfinding, threats, lies, fabrication and above all lunacy!! I gave her $1000 but no longer, let them use their millions to fulfill their dreams. My cash will go to OBAMA, I and my older friends have just pledged to donate him another $10000. Go OBAMA 08

Posted by: gal | May 7, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

In this election Hillary Clinton does not deserve the title of underdog but bad dog. The best thing that Democrats can do for America is to swat her on the nose by denying her fund raising efforts.
Thanks for the great reporting,
Christopher

Posted by: Christopher Wilde | May 7, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Fact: Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee. It’s over.
Fact: Obama with be the Democratic Party nominee.
Fact: Those saying they will vote for McCain are conservative Republicans who switched party to vote for Clinton. They don’t want Clinton. They don’t want McCain.They are foot soldiers of Rush Limbaugh.
Fact: Majority of party voters will still vote their party. Centrists will go with Obama, because Bush has moved the country so far right, McCain who was a centrist in 2000, is now too right for centrists. Obama who the right sees as left, is actually centrist. A little too centrist for the “RADICAL LEFT”. But he’s a better option than McCain.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

You know I blame the media in a way because the have publicized or let’s say they campaigned for Obama. It just makes me sick to my stomach. It’s the media that threw Hillary under the bus.

Posted by: Kathy | May 7, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Clinton has essentially lost the race. If by any wild stretch of the imagination, the superdelegates were to go in mass for her, there would be a huge divisiveness among the democrats and all McCain would have to do to win is put Rice on as his vice and the Reps win. The voters have spoken, Hillary has not yet come out of denial. If she truly wants to be the first woman president, she should appeal to Obama to be his running mate and then run when his term is up. Then she could say with honesty that she had experience. Right now, her experience is all BS. 35 years includes 7 years in the Semate and 28 years as a housewife of another politician – it don’t count.

Posted by: edra | May 7, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Obama will be an effective, intelligent and capable leader. First of all it’s a relief to have someone who can talk coherently and in depth about the issues.
He’s going to end that misguided Iraq war.
He will make some real economic changes to create employment and deal with the housing mess.
He’s not connected or obliged to any of the Clinton dysfunctionalism. He’s just smarter, more capable and a more authentic human being who wants to improve life for all of us.

Posted by: Carol | May 7, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Yes Obama will win on dreams and change. He will ascend to the Presidency. Who needs votes?

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Reiterating the fact of why I think a majority of Americans are stupid. First, calling Obama’s African American supporters racist is purely irrelevant. What was the percent of women that voted for Clinton? As you see from the polls the well educated vote for Obama. What does that say? The Clinton machine is a determined machine and I will give them that, but mathematical statistics suggest Obama is going to be the nominated participent. I think a unified Dem party would be magnificent. If you dislike Obama I would have to question your values of backing Clinton. Who has lied publicly on multiple occasions… You would think the uneducated would say “Hey, why are all the smart people voting for Obama? Maybe they are on to something?”, but they lack the intelligence to do so.

Posted by: Nick | May 7, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

carol….his talk coherently and in depth about the issues…..do you mean to the american people or from his church???? where have you been? have you been listening? i guess not!!! WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: Roger Rabbit | May 7, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

If they had seated FL. and MI in Feb Clinton would of had the MO, I think whomever rigged this race knew just what they were doing.They want Hillary out now so they can bring out all Obama’s dirt and by Nov. it will sound old the longer Clinton stays in the less the republicans need to vet him and the general public won’t start paying attention until after Labor day.I think alls fair in dirty politics if it’s ok for Kennedy ,Kerry, Dood ,and the whole gang its good enough for me.

Posted by: Bishop | May 7, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

mack, Obama has won with votes. Yep, it was votes that put him over Biden, Edwards, Richardson, Dodd, Gravel, Kucinich…and now Clinton. The people have spoken.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

For all those who are stating that Obama will lose the general election because support will shift to McCain or that rural white voters won’t support him, I am utterly disgusted! But I will say I believe in approaching challenges one obstacle at a time. In this instance, it is closing out this primary season. I am convinced that anyone (whatever race) who is willing to support John McCain, a candidate who has clearly backed Bush policies that have us in our present economic condition, deserves whatever his candidacy would bring to the US. If that means more youth being sent to war, more people being put out of their homes, and even higher gas prices, yet people are still willing to traitorously support McCain’s presidency, then “what will be will be.”

Posted by: MD | May 7, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

What percent of the African-American vote went to John Kerry in the General Election? What percent went to Gore?
Ever since Reagan, African Americans have voted Democrat. They are a sure voteing block for Clinton or Obama. Clinton counted them out, because she took their vote for granted. They would never vote Republican. Only 1% registered Blacks vote Republican.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

@fontapa:
Specious logic, but I’ve come to expect that from your camp. You don’t get what will happen this fall. His *position* is 95% but everyone around him is far left. He has no history of achievement except for taking positions and then he does not follow through. So no matter how he talks, the actions aren’t there to prove he can walk the walk. His history is one of being unable to take on the strong vested interests. He ducks out on the fights. His wife is no asset as Bill’s was and will continue to be.
I will sit this one out. Let this be on your head.

Posted by: len | May 7, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

A segment of the population has spoken. He barely has a majority in his own party. He’ll hear the roar of the nation in the GE.. if he gets that far without another scandal.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

It’s sad to see how many prejudiced people post on this board!
If Obama looked like John Edwards, most of you would be supporters by now!

Posted by: Roxanne | May 7, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

By number how many blacks voted for Kerry in 04

Posted by: Bishop | May 7, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Geevil continues the Clinton trend of losing and then attacking the voters for the loss.
Caucus states? Undemocratic and dominated BY LEFTISTS!! (see my other post)
Small states? Not worth campaigning in
White People? voting out of racial guilt
Black People? voting out of racism
Men? Sexists
Women? Not sexist enough
Young? Naive and cult-worshipping
Old? Stuck in the scandals of the past
Left? TOOO LEFTIST!!!
Right? TO RIGHT WING!!!
Center?
Now if you or your candidate tried to entice people to vote for her, instead of telling us why we’re unworthy and unwanted, she might be in a different position today.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

TO ABC, MSNBC, CNN OH YEAH FOXNEWS TOO..PLEASE READ MY THOUGHTS..
You know I thought about this during this election process
President Bush..I don’t dislike him. he has made many mistakes, but soon we will have a new president..and he is only human
President Bush job approval rating is low..The war,,the economy are all at the fore front..
But there is only one nominee that will be benefical to the President as he leaves the White House..
Not Mccain Mccain WILL REMIND PEOPLE OF THE PRESIDENT HE DOESN’T WANT THAT.
NOT Hillary she will bring up the President over and over again..and America will never forget because she represents the past..and so does the President So the president will not benefit from either Hillary or Mccain..
But Obama although he will mention the President..But History will be made..and people will be so excited about OBAMA..THAT the President will be able to ease out of White House back to his life..
So you see I kind of think that the main stream Republicans..capital hill, republicans know these people on the blog….BUT THE BIG WIGS..THEY KNOW
They would truly like people to look pass the President..old record..
No other candidate will be able to do this
But OBAMA..
THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT..
NO this is not a reason to vote for him…I’m voting for him for other reason, but I think this is a reason for the Republican.s.the main stream REPUBLICANS,..
GUYS BLOGGING THEY’LL LOOK PASS YOU..BUT
TO CAPITAL HILL REPUBLICAN LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE..
THEY KNOW OBAMA WILL IN SOME WEIRD WAY HELP THEM RECOVER FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS..
THEY DON’T WANT MCCAIN..MCCAIN BRINGS BACK THE OLD MEMORIES..
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND THEY ARE EXCITED TO SEE IF OUR COUNTRY IS TRULY THE LAND OF FREE THE HOME OF THE BRAVE..
ELECTING A BLACK MAN IN SOME WAYS IN THIS MOMENT IN THIS TIMES
FITS…WILL HELP THE WORLD..WILL HELP OUR COUNTRY RECOVER..
AND I KINDA THINK THE PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE THAT..
I CAN’T BLAME HIM..
SO WHILE YOU REPUBLICANS ON THIS BLOG ARE FIGHTING IN THE END THE HEAD OF YOUR PARTY KNOWS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN..
OBAMA 08

Posted by: betty | May 7, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Ever hear that in church? For all the fuforall about how bad Rev Wright is, the most basic principles of the Judeo-Christian faith are now being trampled by the actual candidate HR Clinton and her chief aides, who clamor for MICH and Florida to count in this article, even though the aides voted not to count them in the DNC committee, and all the candidates agreed to the rules. Clinton’s name became the only name on the ballot in Michigan. That was not an election, it was a crime against democracy and her supposed Lord.
Thou shalt not bear false witness, Mrs Clinton.
Dont make your aides lie for you, anymore.
Own up. End the evil charade that you “won’ Michigan. If you persist is claiming that was a ‘victory’ and an ‘election” you should be disqualified for every running for office as a Democrat again.

Posted by: bruce becker | May 7, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Obama is running a tight contest against Clinton. To say he barely has a majority in a contest between two dems is a faulty argument. What counts is who wins in a tight contest between two dems..will be the DEMOCRATIC (read NOT REPUBLICAN) Party Nominee. DUH! Two Dems fighting it out isn’t about who “barely” has the majority…it’s about who wins the nomination.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Edwards hasn’t belonged to a white supremacist group for 20 years. Little bit of a difference between the two.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

DIVIDE AND CONQUER!
You fools are playing right into the hands of the GOP! No wonder why we don’t get anywhere…
The Republicons are short on cash so keep fighting! The gift that keeps on giving…
Clinton supporters that won’t vote for Obama should be ashamed.

Posted by: Scott | May 7, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

“Left” is never “right”!

Posted by: neobaroque | May 7, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

political realist
We dont want a former prisoner who will torture prisoners. That makes no sense. It is not heroic to torture prisoners.
We dont want a man who is known in the Senate as “not a detail man”, because he cannot remember details, at his age. He may have incipient alzheimer’s and at best, he has just lost his short term memory.
McCain is a CIA dupe. His next act as President would be to claim he doesnt remember, after the CIA does some despicable act in his name.

Posted by: bruce becker | May 7, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

If he can’t bring Hillary’s supporters with him into the GE he won’t win. Duh. People aren’t going to magically fall in line behind the faux uniter.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Mack, but Bush and McCain belong to the Republican Party..as close to White Supremacist as they come. This non KKK voter will not vote for more of the same. And the racist white vote..eh, McCain can have them.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

McCain and Arizona and illegal immigration. McCain isn’t getting the racist vote. They will stay home.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Can’t we all just cling to our guns and bible?

Posted by: neobaroque | May 7, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

If Obama wins the nomination – but those Hillary supporters do not support him – it is because of white racist that still live in country!

Posted by: jozy | May 7, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

And another thing…
It astounds me how no one — not the pundits, not the bloggers, not the reporters, even the people themselves… NO ONE is calling the Clinton campaign on the “Big Lie” that they’re trying to pull.
Every time this argument comes up, a Clinton supporter will say “no president can win without winning Ohio”, or whichever other state it’s politically convenient to “count more” than one that was lost…
As if to say that the Democratic Primary result for the state will AUTOMATICALLY mean that the winner of the DP would win the state in the GE, and that the loser of the DP would lost the state in the GE.
What?? Really??
Let’s think this through. Clinton won Ohio — 1,207,806 to 979,025.
McCain won Ohio — 636,256 to 325,581 over Huckabee.
So, are the Clinton supporters really going to claim that every single Clinton voter in the primaries would either not vote, or vote Republican, in the general election? Cause take the 979,025 votes for Obama, and that is STILL MORE than the COMBINED vote totals of Huckabee and McCain (961,837)… even if 1.2 million people decided not to vote in the general election out of spite.
That’s ludicrous. Hogwash. Balderdash.
A bald-faced lie.
And I’m ASTOUNDED that the Clinton camp is getting away with the implication that a primary loss in a state automatically gives that state to the other party in the general election.
By that logic, the Democrats can safely count the following states for them in the General Election, no matter who wins the Democratic nomination:
Michigan (McCain 2nd)
Massachusetts (McCain 2nd)
Arkansas (McCain 2nd)
Utah (McCain 2nd)
Louisiana (McCain 2nd)
Alabama (McCain 2nd)
Georgia (McCain 2nd)
Tennessee (McCain 2nd)
Kansas (McCain 2nd)
Minnesota (McCain 2nd)
Alaska (McCain 4th)
North Dakota (McCain 2nd)
Montana (McCain 3rd)
Colorado (McCain 2nd)
West Virginia (McCain 3rd)
Maine (McCain 2nd)
Nevada (McCain 3rd)
Wyoming (McCain 4th)
Iowa (McCain 4th)
If anyone actually thinks EITHER Democratic nominee will take North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, or Utah… well, they must be working for the Clinton campaign. Because that’s what the Big Lie “logic” of “He can’t win states in the primaries, therefore he’ll lose the general election” says.

Posted by: Hans | May 7, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

I’m a Jew and I will be voting for Obama. Obama foreign policy is a rational one. Even Henry Kissinger (a Jew) is for talking to Iran. Some Jews have been played for fools by neocons to buy into their pro-war agenda. Israel is no better off that she was pre-Iraq war.
Fooled me once shame on you, fooled me twice…. No you can’t fool me twice. Shame on you.

Posted by: fooled_once | May 7, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Once upon a time, I rooted for Hillary Clinton — until she decided to stand in the shadow of her philandering husband because the news media and misognistic American public didn’t like the idea that she may be making Presidential decisions. They changed her hairstyle (several times) and had her soften her voice and act like a brainless housewife and mother. I was disappointed that she would no longer be a beacon for strong and intelligent women everywhere.
The next thing that turned me off of Hillary, was she KNEW she wanted the presidency but claimed she wouldn’t run at every turn. I knew her address change and NY Senatorial bid was groundwork, yet she still denied it. This made her appear weak, dishonest, and somewhat egotistical to me — as if she was waiting for the American public to beg her to run.
Then the war in Iraq vote. I will never understand how a person in her position of power and influence couldn’t get the real facts — unless she was in on the conspiracy. Otherwise, I could only contribute her actions to pure and irresponsibility.
Then the remark about the mortgage lenders during one debate: “I voted for it but hoped it wouldn’t pass.” More weakness — either bowing to pressure, special interest groups, or for personal gain.
And her speech delivery is awful. She reads them and rarely lifts her eyes, often stumbling over the words. This means to me that she has no personal connection to her rhetoric which only fuels my reasons to mistrust her.
I gave her credit for the Bosnia sniper fire. Long ago events often get distorted — I’ve done it, though not to that extent.
But the “obliterate” remark. Dangerous.
The “gas tax Holiday” — wrong. Wrong to propose a gimmick that she’s too intelligent to believe in herself. However, consistent with everything else I’ve noted about her. Yuck.
Hillary has turned out to be a great disappointment to me. I’ve concluded months ago that she is totally irresponsible and her in the White House would be a third term of George W. Bush. There is no way she’d ever get my vote.
I like Obama. Not because I’ve grown to dislike Hillary. I decided I liked him during “The Speech.” And so far, nothing about him has been brought out that would make me change my mind.
As far as his “poor choice of words” — who hasn’t done this? And put in the context of what he was saying, his poor choice was reasonable. I happen to be one of those “bitter” people in Pennsylvania, except I gave up my gun out of fear of actually using it. My “clinging to God” has helped me recognize my hostility and bitterness. “Clinging to God” also helps me cling to life and not direct my anger to another or blame another for my personal circumstances.
Apparently, there are those who still support Hillary — either because they truly support Hillary or because they don’t like Barrack. These people should still get their opportunity to have their say. However, Hillary, in these last contests could, if it’s in her DNA, take the high road, stick to the meaningful issues like “Personal Choice,” Civil Rights, Voter’s rights, th economy, foreign affairs, energy, mental health, agriculture, education and the environment.
No more desperate gimmicks, Hillary, please???

Posted by: Perplexed | May 7, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Jewish vote didn’t go to Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and it won’t go to McCain. Not all Jewish Americans are pro-Likud.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

All righty, then. The late summer bloodbath in Denver then. A campaign she is running on credit cards again.
Ready on Day One to sign up for Consumer Credit Counseling then? I cannot see this kind of blind ambition in the VP role. As the PBS pundits joked, would you want to be Obama’s food taster?

Posted by: Gaias Child | May 7, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

On primary night, it looked as though the Jewish vote closely mirrored the statewide breakdown: Exit polls showed Jews favoring Clinton over Obama by 57 percent to 43 percent. But the following day, as the dust began to settle on the bruising seven-week contest, the numbers were readjusted to shows Jews backing Clinton by a wider margin: 62 percent to 38 percent.
The numbers were also readjusted to show Jews comprising 8 percent of the total vote, up 1 percent from Election Night. Jews account for about 2.3 percent of Pennsylvania’s populace.
“They didn’t accomplish what they set out to do — I don’t think there is any doubt about that,” said G. Terry Madonna, director of the Center for Politics and Public Affairs at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa
Attacking Clinton for defending Israel against Iran makes it worse for Obama.

Posted by: geevill | May 7, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Yes if Obama is elected our pockets will be flush with cash. I guess like during the Clinton years. He is all rhetoric with no substance. The only thing he has done that he can be judgeed on is belong to a racist church for 20 years.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Man, it really is like killing Dracula, they weren’t kidding.
What will it take for her to quit?
Better question, what the heck are the superdelegates doing sitting on their hands? They’ve hinted privately that they’ll eventually come out for Obama, and now they have concrete irrefutable proof that he’s going to be the winner of this thing.
Whatever happened to courage and integrity in this world? Is Obama the only one with guts these days?

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Mack,
I hope that you and Hillary’s supporters have been storing up cash and resources as the Clintons have, because if you are a member of the proletariat, my prayers are with you if bitter democrats decide to vote for McCain.

Posted by: MD | May 7, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Geevil -
Gallup poll results out today.
Jewish voters 61% Obama – 32% McCain.
You lose, good day sir.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Comparing the Jewish vote in the Democratic party between two Democratic options…vs the Jewish vote for a Republican is silly. The Jewish vote will stay with their party. I know them well, and they are not switching to the party of the KKK.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Wow – I guess Barack Hussein Obama really is the anti-Christ. Well America – you get what you vote for. All hail the new false god raised from the dead by the main stream media… let the nightmare begin. Come on – ARMAGEDDON IT!

Posted by: Myst | May 7, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Geevil -
Gallup poll results out today.
Jewish voters 61% Obama – 32% McCain.
You lose, good day sir.
The Jewish vote in 2004 – is: Senator John Kerry: 78% • President George Bush: 22
Uh oh. quite a massive deflection which is bound to get worse. I am afraid the only loser will be Obama. have a good 6 months of pretending he won’t sir.

Posted by: geevill | May 7, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

I am a democrat – and I am voting for McCain. Obama is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too questionable. GOT HATRED FOR WHITES and for America? VOTE OBAMA! The media has sickened me to the point that I think I may in fact now be a republican.

Posted by: Myst | May 7, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

What will be so horrible when McCain becomes president?

Posted by: Kitty | May 7, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Haven’t seen anything even close to resembling hatred in Obama. Nope, that dog won’t hunt.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Haven’t seen anything even close to resembling hatred in Obama. Nope, that dog won’t hunt.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

In his first day in office, McCain will club baby seals on the white house lawn.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

1984
Reagan (R) 31
Mondale (D) 67
1988
Bush (R) 35
Dukakis (D) 64
1992
Bush (R) 11
Clinton (D) 80
Perot (I) 9
1996
Dole (R) 16
Clinton (D) 78
Perot (I) 3
2000
Bush (R) 19
Gore (D) 79
Nader (G) 1
2004*
Bush (R) 24
Kerry (D) 76
Nader (G) <1
Thanks for pointing out how poorly Obama is doing with Jewish voters. Worse than Dukakis, worse than McGovern, worse than any Democrat since Jimmy Carter in 1980

Posted by: geevill | May 7, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

“What will be so horrible when McCain becomes president?”
Let’s make a list…
Iraq War will continue for years and possibly decades, Thousands more soldiers will die, and Iraq will still be a mess.
The wealthiest Americans will get tax cuts permanently.
Firms like Bear Stearns will continue to get multi billion dollar bailouts, while hundreds of thousands of homeowners will be evicted.
Those of us who have employer paid healthcare will join the ranks of the millions already uninsured, and insurance companies will face now scrutiny on pricing or claims practices.
We’ll continue to see our civil rights eroded, as fears of terrorism continue to empower the Republicans to pry into every aspect of our lives.
Judges will continue to be selected based on their willingness to legislate what we do in the bedroom and with our own bodies. Our children will be taught religion instead of science.
Our schools will continue to crumble, and the best paying jobs in our country will then follow our lost industry jobs overseas to seek better educated workers.
I could go on and on…

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

I’m a middle-aged white feminist — and I (and 99% of my friends) applaud Obama’s success.
#1 – A disproportionate # of Hillary fans say that they’ll vote for McCain if Obama’s nominated.
Stop embarrassing yourself: This just tells us that you’re not Democrats to begin with; and naively think that hissyfits will sway the nomination.
It also means that you’re personality-cultish rather than party- (or U.S.-) minded: a vote for McCain is a vote to trash Roe/Wade, support NAFTA, continue the Iraq war, trash health care, appoint further far-right judges/justices, et al.
But you’d do this in Hillary’s name?
#2 – Hillary is beyond divisive, and her cowboy tactics have exacerbated this.
Recognizing this: The GOP/Right has been pushing her like mad, urging GOPers to vote for her in open primaries (where anyone can vote).
Limbaugh crowed about all of the “help” he’d given her in Pennsylvania.
GOP voters were among her biggest fans in the Indiana primary. Media interviews even included folks who said, upfront, that they were GOP, had just voted for Hillary, and would vote only-GOP in November.
And it’s interesting that Obama has won most of the CLOSED primaries — which require that voters be registered Democrats.
#3, Obama doesn’t need to “apologize” to anyone.
Since Day One, Hill has tossed and talked trash. Her campaign has morphed into the Archie Bunker Roadshow, pushing GOP/Rove-ian attacks, slurs, and scare tactics, and trying to position Hill as the Great White Hope.
When all else fails, she claims to be a victim — of just about everything. Her “sexism” claims have alienated many feminists, who resent the manipulation — and who know that her problem isn’t sexism: It’s Hillary, her lack of perspective and skill, her track record, her lack of integrity, her tactics, and the fact that her sole focus is “All About Me.”
Her campaign’s slogans — “America Needs Hillary” and “Help Make History” — say it all: no theme, no goals, and voters (a) exist solely to facilitate her career plans, and (b) should just vote for a gender.
I want her to apologize for insulting voters’ intelligence, trashing the party, triangulating, creating unnecessary divisiveness, promoting the GOP (by claiming, at one point, that McCain was more “qualified” than Obama), toxifying the primaries, and acting like a Creature of Rove.
And I’m very, very tired of all the weirdly un-adult posts from Hill fans, which choke newsboards and blogs — personality-based/slur-ish, non-issue-oriented stuff that’s full of exclamation points and “hmmmmm,” echoes Hill’s p.r.-of-the-day, and is more suited to a snarky middle-school slamfest than a national election.

Posted by: alexan | May 7, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

I just printed out two Florida voter registration application forms. We are re-registering as republicans just to protest our votes not being counted. We will not vote as republicans we will either vote independent or not vote at all. Mccain can’t be as bad as Bush.

Posted by: you got another thing coming | May 7, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Yes if McCain is elected for 4 years he will ensure that we remain in Iraq for 100 years.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

It would be really cool to see an agreement struck on Michigan & Florida. I have to say (as an Obama supporter who hopes I would make the same call if Obama were losing) Hillary would have maintained a lot more credibility with me if she had seperated the arguments between Mich. & Florida. I believe a credible argument can be made to seat Florida as is & here’s why: Both Obama & Hillary crossed lines in Florida. Obama’s campaign (maybe by accident & maybe not) ran some limited campaign ads in Florida (they both agreed to NOT campaign) & even if it truly WAS an accident the damage was done. Hillary also agreed not to campaign & technically didn’t, but she did go down early & hold some fund raisers (just before the primary vote) & to me that at least violates the spirit of the agreement & we all know the intention was to keep her name in local media to give her a boost. So I say Florida is fair game. Michigan is just an embarrassment & I believe this is where she lost a LOT of People. NOBODY ACCEPT FOR PATHALOGICAL CLINTON SUPPORTERS could make a credible argument that there was anything resembling a contest there & it’s just a little too convenient that her name didn’t get pulled off the ballot there (when she agreed to it) Again giving her campaign the benefit of the doubt (even if it was a mistake) the damage was done & Michigan can not be seated resembling anything other than 50/50. One free thinker’s opinion.

Posted by: Chapman | May 7, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Mack says :Yes if McCain is elected for 4 years he will ensure that we remain in Iraq for 100 years.
Well, at least we don’t have to worry about Clinton obliterating Iran..and taking our troops in Iraq with the “obliteration.” But if we vote Obama, we have a SANE foreign policy.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

“I just printed out two Florida voter registration application forms. We are re-registering as republicans just to protest our votes not being counted. We will not vote as republicans we will either vote independent or not vote at all. Mccain can’t be as bad as Bush.”
Well, ygatc, you’re playing right into the hands of the Republican Party. You do know it was the republicans in the state legislature that pushed the primary date to before window allowed by the Democratic Party, right? The republicans also punished Florida for voting “too early” — they stripped the state of half it’s delegates to the RNC.
So, by all means, register Republican — if you wish to reward the kind of antidemocratic maneuver they pulled to push Florida democrats into this spot.

Posted by: Hans | May 7, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Please don’t fool yourself, I’m a African American who was a strong Democrat and Hillary Supporter, not one of those deceptive Republicans who crossed over to try and make Obama the nominee to help McCain win the Presidency. I really wanted Hilary to win because she’s the stronger candidate, it’s not about race or gender for me, but who has the most exeprience and qualfication to do the job, Obama is just a great speech maker and that’s it as far as I’m concerned. I need no more that hope and faith that things are going to change, and that’s alll Obama has to offer.
Hillary was very explicit on what she going to do to turn this country around, Obama has no substance, just a lot of pep rally talk, this is no time for a pep talk, but real solutions to turn this country around, Hillary is the beeter candidate to achieve that goal, it a shame that my race of people are caught up on coloof skin and not the issues that’s negatively facing this country, they want a Black President so bad that they are willing to put an inexperienced man in office just to say they have a Black President, well as a Black American myself, In my opinion, Obama is not the right Black to be my Commander and Chief.
Obama is not for the average Black or White, but for his college educated voters of both races,he’s not even for the young people, Obama just used them for personal and political gain, they are just coming inot the voting process and don’t really know how things in politics works yet, but if they did really know, they would not have been voting for Obama in droves, because they would have realized they where being used by Obama just to get the nomination and the Presidency.
I don’t see what he’s going to do for the poor or middle class citizens, if any thing he thinks he’s better than we are, I’m a college educated Black American with a Master’s degree in Business, I don’t think I’m better than anybody, but Obama carry’s that aire and persona about himself, he’s very arrogant and stuck on himself, so is his wife as well.
I also noticed something else, when Obama was giving his victory speech last night after winning the NC primaries, who did he have standing behind him? I will answer that question for you, mostly middle aged White Women, he wanted to create the impression that he’s not the Black Candidate, well, in my opinion, Obama is the Black Candiate over 92% of Blacks voted for him, and why didn’t Obama have a mixture of Black and white voters behind him? the Black voters are the ones’ who got him over the hump in NC, so this shows me that Obama just used the Black vote to get ahead, he does not really care about people like myself, and anyway, Obama is mixed race, so I know for sure that he’s not going to agressively address my race of people’s issues if he becomes President, if anything he’s going to agnore and hide from them, my race of people are looking at Obama’s skin color, but not at what he truly stands for, Obama is no JFK or MLK, he’s nothing like these two civil right’s leaders, Obama is a fake,It’s going to be a real shame once my race of people realize that Obama was not the right Black to be President over this country, but than it’s going to be too late, because the damage would have already been done.
I’m sorry to be so hard on my race of people, but we tend to not vote on the issues, but color of skin, my people as a whole through-out this race voted for Obama because he’s Black and a great speech maker, not on the substance of the issues, which he has no substance or real solid solutions on how he’s going to turn this country around, all I see and hear from him is big pep rallies for the young folks trying to decieve them into voting for him, well I did not fall this or him, Hillary was our best and only chance of overcoming McCain in the general election,and unfortunately, I will be looking to call McCain Mr. President in 09, because the Republican Swift-boat Machine will eat him alive in the general election causing our party to lose again to the Republican Party, I will be leaving the Democratic Party if Obama is the nominee and voting for Hillary as an write-In Candidate, voting for Ralph Nader, or staying home, but never for Obama or McCain.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Please don’t fool yourself, I’m a African American who was a strong Democrat and Hillary Supporter, not one of those deceptive Republicans who crossed over to try and make Obama the nominee to help McCain win the Presidency. I really wanted Hilary to win because she’s the stronger candidate, it’s not about race or gender for me, but who has the most exeprience and qualfication to do the job, Obama is just a great speech maker and that’s it as far as I’m concerned. I need no more that hope and faith that things are going to change, and that’s alll Obama has to offer.
Hillary was very explicit on what she going to do to turn this country around, Obama has no substance, just a lot of pep rally talk, this is no time for a pep talk, but real solutions to turn this country around, Hillary is the beeter candidate to achieve that goal, it a shame that my race of people are caught up on coloof skin and not the issues that’s negatively facing this country, they want a Black President so bad that they are willing to put an inexperienced man in office just to say they have a Black President, well as a Black American myself, In my opinion, Obama is not the right Black to be my Commander and Chief.
Obama is not for the average Black or White, but for his college educated voters of both races,he’s not even for the young people, Obama just used them for personal and political gain, they are just coming inot the voting process and don’t really know how things in politics works yet, but if they did really know, they would not have been voting for Obama in droves, because they would have realized they where being used by Obama just to get the nomination and the Presidency.
I don’t see what he’s going to do for the poor or middle class citizens, if any thing he thinks he’s better than we are, I’m a college educated Black American with a Master’s degree in Business, I don’t think I’m better than anybody, but Obama carry’s that aire and persona about himself, he’s very arrogant and stuck on himself, so is his wife as well.
I also noticed something else, when Obama was giving his victory speech last night after winning the NC primaries, who did he have standing behind him? I will answer that question for you, mostly middle aged White Women, he wanted to create the impression that he’s not the Black Candidate, well, in my opinion, Obama is the Black Candiate over 92% of Blacks voted for him, and why didn’t Obama have a mixture of Black and white voters behind him? the Black voters are the ones’ who got him over the hump in NC, so this shows me that Obama just used the Black vote to get ahead, he does not really care about people like myself, and anyway, Obama is mixed race, so I know for sure that he’s not going to agressively address my race of people’s issues if he becomes President, if anything he’s going to agnore and hide from them, my race of people are looking at Obama’s skin color, but not at what he truly stands for, Obama is no JFK or MLK, he’s nothing like these two civil right’s leaders, Obama is a fake,It’s going to be a real shame once my race of people realize that Obama was not the right Black to be President over this country, but than it’s going to be too late, because the damage would have already been done.
I’m sorry to be so hard on my race of people, but we tend to not vote on the issues, but color of skin, my people as a whole through-out this race voted for Obama because he’s Black and a great speech maker, not on the substance of the issues, which he has no substance or real solid solutions on how he’s going to turn this country around, all I see and hear from him is big pep rallies for the young folks trying to decieve them into voting for him, well I did not fall this or him, Hillary was our best and only chance of overcoming McCain in the general election,and unfortunately, I will be looking to call McCain Mr. President in 09, because the Republican Swift-boat Machine will eat him alive in the general election causing our party to lose again to the Republican Party, I will be leaving the Democratic Party if Obama is the nominee and voting for Hillary as an write-In Candidate, voting for Ralph Nader, or staying home, but never for Obama or McCain.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Chapman, you make a great point. I have less trouble swallowing Hillary’s Florida argument than Michigans.
I mean, no legit democracy on the planet accepts an election result where only one candidate is on the ballot! It’s just foolish.
She really lost me, though, not on the substance of her Michigan Florida argument, but on the collossal flip-flop.
What, she and her cheif people agreed on stripping their delegates, and some of her people were on the council that made it happen, but now we’re supposed to beleive she’s against it and it doesn’t have anything to do with political opportunism? It defies all beleif.
She’d have played it better if she acknowledged their wrongdoing but then appealed for a sit-down to come to an agreement. Instead, she’s wrongfully villified the DNC, the Obama campaign, and she’s cast doubt on the legitimacy of the entire primary process just to give herself an advantage.
If her supporters really do boycot the General Election, it will be because of stunts like this where she lied to them and convinced them that Obama’s success was somehow illegitimate.
I know if I were on the other side of the fence and I felt my candidate had been cheated out of the nomination, I’d be hard pressed to support the DNC.
Shame on her for propagating this false claim just to gain a few delegates.

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Darrell says: “I’m sorry to be so hard on my race of people, but we tend to not vote on the issues, but color of skin, my people as a whole through-out this race voted for Obama because he’s Black.”
Three-time candidate for the Republican presidential nomination (1996, 2000, 2008) Alan Keyes would have been President if you words were accurate.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

I am an independent voter who cast his ballot for Obama in yesterday’s North Carolina primary, but who hasn’t made up his mind for the General Election.
I can say one thing though, if Hillary were the Dem choice, my vote would go to McCain. Obama has always polled better among independents than Clinton and always – save maybe one short stretch over the tumultuous last 6 weeks – polled better against McCain in a hypothetical general election.
The Republican pundits are doing everything they can to derail an Obama nomination, not out of the goodness of their hearts, but because they’ve seen the same data and they know that running against Hillary is an easier path to the POTUS than running against Obama.

Posted by: Unwashed Masses | May 7, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

darrell says:
“Obama is not for the average Black or White, but for his college educated voters of both races” and yet, you say”
I don’t see what he’s going to do for the poor or middle class citizens, if any thing he thinks HE’s BETTER THAN WE ARE , I’m a college educated Black American with a Master’s degree in Business, I don’t think I’m better than anybody, but Obama carry’s that aire and persona about himself, he’s very arrogant and stuck on himself, so is his wife as well.”
Which is it..master’s degeree or poor? Which we are you?

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

How is Hillary Clinton different from George Bush in her pig headedness? This is not tenacity; she is megalomaniacal. She is willing to buy the nomination rather than concede defeat. I sure would not like to give her access to that red phone at 3 a.m. It is quite evident that the only thing she is focused on is being the ‘first’ woman and (they) the ‘first’ couple in the White House. I think its a bet between them both….before the laws are changed to prevent couples from occuping that office as Presidents! They might be the ones to bring about that law so that they become the ‘only’ people to do so… which they won’t because they will not win this time and in eight years she will be (almost) as old as McCain. They say, great minds think alike but sick minds do also. Give it up Hillary, Barak is electable and will be elected in 11/08!

Posted by: aletheia | May 7, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

In response to Darrell theyshoothorses said: “Three-time candidate for the Republican presidential nomination (1996, 2000, 2008) Alan Keyes would have been President if you words were accurate.”
The difference between Keyes and Obama is that Keyes was never promoted, defended, protected and glorified by the media and puppeteers hyping his candidacy.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

McGovern switched to Obama, now one of her Superdelegates has switched, both citing that she needs to drop out. Add to that 3 new supers for Obama today, making it a net 4 for him to her net ZERO (she gained one new one, but lost the defector).
She’s toast, and even if she doesn’t do the right thing, it looks like her supporters and superdelegates are going to do it for her. Thank God, she’s like the relative who crashed on your couch and wouldn’t leave for ages!
Get out already!

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Senator Hillary Clinton will forever remain my choice for President. The main stream media (MSM) early on sold this remarkable, caring and intelligent woman down the river based upon sexism, ageism and an insatiable quest for ratings by promoting an inexperienced political upstart’s dream who arrogantly heralded that ‘this was his time’ to be President. I am a 60-year old professional woman who will NEVER vote for Obama. For me, it was Senator Clinton’s ‘time’ to be President. She in my opinion is this nation’s best and long-overdue, historic opportunity to elect a qualified and capable woman to lead the United States of America! Let us not forget, that the greater majority (voting block)in the general electorate are women. And like this staunch Hillary supporter, I’m sure there are millions out there who feel the way I do. Given the ever increasing media howls for Hillary to drop out of the race and the stinging defections of so-called superdelegate friends, it should come as no surprise at all that in November we will watch in terrible dismay our beloved country once again thrown under the bus by the Democratic Party with McCain ultimately ending up in the driver’s seat.

Posted by: Patricia | May 7, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

There isn’t a backbone among them. They can switch all day long. Fact is Obama is a loser in the GE, although by a much larger margin than Kerry or Gore. Hopefully within the next 4 years the Democratic party will get their act together, and have a real nominee, not another feel good empty suit. Get used to President McCain.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

cappamore says: response to Darrell theyshoothorses said: “Three-time candidate for the Republican presidential nomination (1996, 2000, 2008) Alan Keyes would have been President if you words were accurate.”
The difference between Keyes and Obama is that Keyes was never promoted, defended, protected and glorified by the media and puppeteers hyping his candidacy.”
You missed the point. Darrell said:
“I’m sorry to be so hard on my race of people, but we tend to not vote on the issues, but color of skin, my people as a whole through-out this race voted for Obama because he’s Black.”
Which makes anything BUT the color of the skin, irrelevant, including media hype. It’s about skin color, claims Darrell. Who claims to be Black.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Although the superdelegates should nominate Hillary, since she is clearly the strongest candidate in the Fall, they will not. The reason? Race. Cokie Roberts sums it up by saying, “Given America’s long, torturous path toward racial justice, many Democrats simply cannot imagine denying the nomination to the first serious African-American candidate for president…From a moral perspective, that’s a noble judgment. From a political perspective, it could cost Democrats the White House.”
So, the supers will give the nomination to Obama, Obama will lose to McCain, and everyone in the Democratic party will be happy, except those who are actually interested in getting a Democrat in the White House. The Democractic leadership is happy to give the White House to the Republicans, and let them ruin the country. They are happy to do this as long as they can say they did the right thing — or at least they did what it takes to please their constituencies.

Posted by: David H | May 7, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Patricia -
Why is it arrogant? You want him to wait his turn? Be a good boy and wait for his masters to tell him when it’s okay to run?
My wife is the biggest feminist I’ve ever met, and she’s completely disgusted by Clinton. Just being a woman is not enough, my friend.
She’s a pathalogical liar, like her filthy man-whore of a husband, and she’s betrayed every faction of her party in her bloodbath to grab more power. She deserves to wander in the political wilderness.
There are plenty of good women out there with ten times the character and are vastly more deserving of the presidency. When they run, they’ll get our vote.
Our generation is so sick of yours telling us to wait our turn. It happens everywhere.
If I’m more educated, more savvy, more enlightened, and just plain better than you, why the heck should I wait my turn.
If she really had what it takes, she’d have won this. No matter who’s turn it was…

Posted by: fontapa | May 7, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Cokie said that racist comment? Not too bright, is she. Well, here’s a stat for the slicers and dicers, Richardson as Obama’s VP will give the Democrats a voting bloc. Feminists will vote for breaking any barrier..as long as it’s breaking the MALE WHITE DOMINANCE. Don’t forget there are feminists of both genders, and all races and ethnicities. The only non-feminists I know are married to white patriarch bible bloc.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Sorry, most Americans don’t share the ideals of the radical left. Most Americans don’t follow black liberation theology or applaud domestic terrorism. 60′s are over.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Mack…THERE IS NO RADICAL LEFT. Time to get with the times. You are stuck in the past.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

The PC term is Progressives? Same agenda different name.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

theyshoothorses…. that’s the problem with the radical left: you think you’re mainstream, just like everyone else should be — by thinking your way, of course.

Posted by: M. Green | May 7, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Nothing radical about today’s progressive/populist. I’d call it the PRAGMATIC LEFT. It’s a dose of reality,Bush has pushed us over a cliff with radical right. Listen to your own rightwing preachers..like HAGEE. Right wing has brought the progressive to the center. Future depends on moving away from the radical right. Yet, McCain IS moving toward the radical right, as is Hillary.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

M Green, yes, mainstream is a good way to describe today’s Democratic Party. Thanks.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf
If you do read Michelle’s thesis and accept it’s hypotheses, you come to two conclusions:
1. Barack Obama had to spend 20 years at Reverend Wright’s church to become comfortable with blacks and his black heritage. Otherwise, his life experiences predisposed him to being more comfortable with his white heritage. This isn’t racism. It is adaptation to environment.
2. Socioeconomically, except for a short and uninflential period, Obama is more comfortable with the economically advantaged and has little in common with the working classes whom he claims to represent. This isn’t elistism. It is habits.
He is uncomfortable in his skin but he adapted to it. She is comfortable in her skin but intolerant of those not in her circle of friends or cultures. This is racism but it is black racism and nothing about that will change in the course of this election.
No matter what it looks like today for the Obama supporters, this is a disaster for the Democrats. I am sitting this one out.

Posted by: len | May 7, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Obama is totally comfortable in his own skin. More so, than Hillary who has been a chameleon, Bush who is a connecticut elite trying to be average joe, or McCain who can’t talk straight no matter what he calls his bus.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Cokie is a bitter gal! Her opinions have not been hidden during this primary process. She needs to move on.

Posted by: Thinking | May 7, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

My Dad carried that far left torch. Even gave me a copy of the Communist Manifesto for my 14th birthday. He put out his torch a long time ago, and stopped voting. Most Americans are more toward the center. The far left agenda doesn’t work here.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Mack …Democratic Party does not equal Communism. Time to get educated in reality.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

@theyshoothorses
Read the thesis first, do the analysis, then comment. That is Michelle’s point of view, not mine. She is quite clear about what she thinks is necessary for comfort.
Methinks this isn’t over yet.

Posted by: len | May 7, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

What’s wrong? Can’t handle the truth? Obama;s lemming will march off the cliff in November. We will be rid of Michelle and Barack Obama for good. The leftists have been trying for years to get a leftwinger like Kunicich and Dean nominated. Watch and learn.

Posted by: geevill | May 7, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

There is no way out for Hillary. She has no chance of beating Obama, but getting out now – when the race looks no different than it did months ago – would leave her legacy tarnished, her supporters dismayed, and the party bruised. I believe Wolfson when he says that there are “no discussions” about HRC dropping out. She’s in it until 6/3.

Posted by: matt | May 7, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

I’m both, I ‘m an Black American who has a Master’s degree and for the average Black and white and for the poor, Obama has a Juris Doctorate and only for the rich Blacks and Whites, he’s one sided, I’m not.
Obama used people in my age bracket and my race to get ahead for his own personal and political adgenda, not for all America, he’s not to be trusted, I guess like you said, my race of people will protect in the streets if they don’t get thier Black president, well you may be getting your wish, it does not matter whehter he has the experience to do the job or not, just be Black, that’s all my race of people needs to have the qualfications to be President, well good luck because the Black American is not falling for the Ookie doke.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

I have a new name for Hillary Clinton. She is the George W. Bush of the Democratic party. She is going to “Stay the course” no matter how much damage she is doing to her party and the country. Hillary “George W. Bush” Clinton.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Len,I’m just commenting on the “comfortable in his own skin” charge. Here’s an excerpt from Larry King Live interview with Joy Behar. She has met Obama, and she’s as down to earth as they come.
KING: What is it about him? He has a certain — he changes the room.
BEHAR: It’s his charm and his ease with himself. Some people are comfortable in their own skin. He seems to be comfortable in his own skin. When I was with McCain, I didn’t get that impression that the guy is comfortable with himself, that he seems uncomfortable a little bit.
KING: Do you buy any of this elitist charge about Obama? BEHAR: Oh, please. You know what, are you an elitist? Am I an elitist? Do we like — yes, of course we are because we like certain things in life. That doesn’t mean you look down your nose at anybody else. You’re in a — why — I don’t know. John McCain — they also say that if they have money, it doesn’t mean they’re an elitist. John McCain is worth — his wife is worth 100 million bucks. George Bush — what did Ann Richards say, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth. Hillary has got a lot of cash.”

Posted by: theyshoothorsest | May 7, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Hillary has donated (11.4 million) the equivalent of 28+ years salary ($400,000)of being the POTUS to her campaign. Talk about power hungry!

Posted by: Roxanne | May 7, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

“comfortable in his own skin”
–unless he’s in a debate or taking difficult questions in a news conference. He always looks very uncomfortable to me in those situations, stammers a lot and over-uses phrases like “bunch of stuff” and “this, that and the other thing”.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

DarellP. You should have more faith In your fellow African American, and don’t sell him short. A newcomer to this process, a Bi-Racial Man (a black man) in this racist country has been able to do the unthinkable and stand tall against The Mighty Clinton Machine.
He has run his campaign based on the rules put forth by the democratic party, and he has done a absolutely marvelous job. He ran a better campaign than her and that’s the reason he’s in the position he is.
You would have to be a fool, to not believe that African Americans wouldn’t throw there support behind the 1st black man to make a serious run for office. Just like Hillary gets overwhelming support from Women and older Americans. Why is it that black voters have to be trivialized. And by the way blacks are not the only race of people supporting him.

Posted by: Sick and Tired | May 7, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

i know the black vote was 92% for obama… what was the white vote percentage?

Posted by: greg | May 7, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

As an educated black man, military officer, proud American; I sincerely hope that those in this country who support the similar policies of HRC and BHO look at the bigger picture. Whoever looses the Democratic nomination owes it to America to strongly support the winner with the same energy they used to reach this point in the nominating process. They know what is best not only for America but for the party, “We can stand together or surely fall apart…”
If you put your future and your childrens future in the hands of a president who appoint 2-4 Supreme Court judges, you stand to loose far more that you could possibly hope to gain by voting for the presumptive republican nominee.
Just a thought…

Posted by: Kevin | May 7, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

I wasn’t saying that he is elitist (although his SF comments were elitist comments). What I’m saying is that he does not appear to be “comfortable in his own skin” in difficult situations. We already have a president like that.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Extreme is sitting in a church for 20 years that preaches black liberation theology and being friends with a domestic terrorist. That is what will keep him from becoming President.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

theyshoothorses: there certainly are comparisons. I agree that Obama is a lot smarter than Bush. But he is no more ready for the White House than Bush was. An Obama presidency will be run by those who have propped him up like Kennedy and Kerry. Ok, they’re not evil like Cheney, but it hardly makes Obama a strong president. As I previously noted his discomfort in difficult situations is similar to that of Bush and pretty scary.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Even Clinton’s own staff and strategist now that this thing is over. From Chris Cilliza at the Washington Post:
“I believe there is no path to victory,” said one Clinton strategist granted anonymity to speak candidly about the future of the campaign. “I also believe she wants to see a Democrat win in November and she will do the right thing.”

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Supporters of “Planet Clinton” will certainly sink “Planet Obama” in November when cult leader Obama will crash and burn. Supporters of “Planet Clinton” will be voting for “Planet McCain” and maybe join his campaign to ensure the implosion of “Planet Obama.”

Posted by: crat3 | May 7, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Can you blame Obama for being careful with his words, look at the scutiny he’s receiving for every word, even many words he didn’t say, and often by the supporters of a bold faced liar. Also yes Clinton is being forced out of the race, by voters.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Bye Bye Crat3. Don’t let the door hit you in the …..
Go support a candidate that is pro torture, pro spying on Americans, Pro more Iraq war, pro tax cut to the wealthy, pro corrupting and politicizing the DOJ, and Pro Radical Right Wing Extreme Supreme Court Justices. You deserve to be in a party like that.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

So that’s why the road for Clinton has been so bumpy lately. Add “pundits” to the “economists” that her campaign has thrown under the bus lately.

Posted by: medhat | May 7, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

It’s downright undemocratic to tell Clinton to drop out when she actually got 48.7% of the total votes (not counting Florida and Michigan). I think it’s hypocritical to force the Democrats to support a flawed and feeble candidate who will go on to lose the general election. Obama cannot win with his base of AAs and old liberals. And then there are the impressionable college kids that he and his minions sign up before they have time to blink and then truck over to the voting booth. As the race continues through 6/3, we will see a weaker and weaker Obama. That’s what the Party operatives and the swooners are afraid of, and Obama will show just how unsuited to the Presidency he really is. There is no Affirmative Action regarding the Presidency and no return policies either. The Obamaites want to bamboozle the rest of the country before we can say boo!!!

Posted by: alee25 | May 7, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

fool me once said “supporters of a bold faced liar”
Why are Obama supporters completely delusional about the purity of their candidate? Where do I start with the Obama lies and misrepresentations?? Iraq voting record (truth – he has said he doesn’t know how he would have voted in 2002), nuclear legistion scandal, “won’t run for pres in ’08″, “never heard Wright say those things” “I heard Wright say those things”, length and extent of friendshipo with Rezko, running ads in Florida before primary, false ads about Clinton health care plan. Your candidate is not pure. Just ask anyone in Chicago (who isn’t afraid to talk about how he got credit for state senate legislation, how he actually won that seat playing Chicago politics, etc, etc, etc

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Hmmm…Obama won the state of Iowa and it is 92% White. What does that make the overwhelming white folks who voted for Obama? Are they racist?

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

I am an independent. The democrates do have a formula to secure 16 years of reign of the White House, which is 8 years of HRC followed by 8 years of BHO. BHO as VP mentored by HRC will prepare him to be a great President of the US ( but will be a tough 8 years for anyone working directly under HRC). To heal the wounds of racism, it is not enough for BHO just to make it to the White House. He has to achieve greatness in his Presidency that is at least at par with, if not better than, all the great Presidents in the US history. BHO, inexperienced and with poor judgment shown by his pastor, is not ready for healing the racial wounds even he is elected. He might make blunders as a President. He has a fast learning curve, but he cannot really start a Presidential learning process until he is in the White House.
Anyway, I think that this formula can only exist in theory. In practice, the next Presidency is likely going to JM if BHO is nominated this year as expected. JM probably will use his one term, because of his age, to make difficult but important changes for this nation. As for HRC, she might or might not come back in 2012. God bless America!

Posted by: capri | May 7, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

With Hillary Clinton’s bad Math skills, how can anyone expect her to solve problems with the economy.
She clearly doesn’t know what majority of popular votes means…since she keeps claiming she has it and everyone knows she doesn’t.
Then there is the fact that even with over 20 years of name recognition she still had to run her campaign into debt, as well as fund out of pocket just to be a competitive candidate. ouch.
Clinton and her supporters are in serious denial.

Posted by: washingtonian | May 7, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

I didn’t say Obama is a saint, no person and certainly no politician is. The fact is that most all these distractions are by people who were never going to vote for Obama and are doing their best to convince others to do the same. Sorry you hitched your wagon to a lame horse stuck in the mud and now can’t do anything but sling it.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I agree completely FoolMeOnce.

Posted by: washingtonian | May 7, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Liberal medias start talking about Rev. Haggy because they thoguht race is over and Obama is the nominee since the math say so……. this is why is the best Mrs.Clinton don’t quit, the more liberal medias mention about Rev.Haggy, the right wing will talk more about Re.Wright, so the more we know Obama’s crap.
Keep going Hillary 08!

Posted by: pulang | May 7, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

The folks on these boards that say they will not vote for Barack if he gets the nomination are not true Democrats. I bet you all the money I donated to Edwards and later Obama that they all voted for George Bush. Let them go support McSame. He is going to need it since 25% of his party did not even vote for him when he is already the nominee. Boo-Ya.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Obama/Gore ’08.
Paul.

Posted by: Paul M. | May 7, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

I agree with Rachel Madow from MSNBC comment…. “if I were Mrs.Clinton, I will tell superdelagates just wait..”
The longer she stay the more we know aobaut Rev.Wright, Rezko, Bill Ayers…and…and..etc.
Obama will be lost againts Mc.Cain. Most states he won will be going to Repbulican, espceiall as they know about Rev.Wright. Obama won more caucuses than primary. In general election there is no caucus.

Posted by: Gee | May 7, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

fool me once said: “I didn’t say Obama is a saint, no person and certainly no politician is.”
OK, then refrain from calling Clinton a “Boldfaced Liar”. I didn’t realize that you acknowledged Obama’s lies.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

I think the democratic party is going to be divided if don’t figure out who is going to be the president and yes obama does not speak for all of us.. thank u very much

Posted by: Utah SEO | May 7, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Sorry, but when Hillary repeated her landing in Bosnia under sniper fire fantasy on several different occasions when she actually was greeted by a small girl with flowers, that was a bold faced lie. The person who we elect commander in chief and could possibly need have to send our troops to war needs to be able to tell the difference.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

I have enough sense not vote for a candidate based on race or gender, but on the issues, because in reality my race people have a tendency to stab each other in the back, just because Obama iis Black or mixed race does not mean he going to be their for our race of people, he’s proven that by not showing up to the State of The Black Union hosted by Tavis Smiley or Katrina, Obama hides from issues that negativley affect the Black race exspecially poor and middle class Blacks and Whites, he looks down on them, he thinks he better than people who don’t have the wealth he has. So as an Black American he does not represent or speak for me, but for his rich well to do Black and Whites circles.

Posted by: In response to Sick and Tired From DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Give it up already. You are starting to look like a joke, Hillary.

Posted by: AG | May 7, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Hillary needs to stop acting like a spoiled brat now and step down after Obama’s huge NC win. Its over! The Super Delegates are leaving her camp to support Obama daily and urging her to step down for the sake of the Democrat party. If she continues to drag this out and hurt the party she will not be popular enough to be re-elected to the Senate… much less dog catcher!

Posted by: outsourced2 | May 7, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

I hope obama will refuse Hillary’s support in the ge.
I hope he will not want her to campaign for him.
she can just go back to work in the senate.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

My North Carolina…a state of denial.
You can pull your head out of the sand now-Obama won. You bought his lies.
I won’t leave the state I love, so I will vote for McCain.

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 7, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Congratulations to Senator Obama for staying the high ground after all the personal attacks…well done! Senator Clinton, show some grace for a change and think of your party.

Posted by: outsourced2 | May 7, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

outsor2
I am with you, I think for the good of the party she should just concede and go back to the senate and get on with her work.
I hope obama will not ask her or bill to campaign in the fall for him.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

i have been reading black agenda all along. it is to bad other black people were not in tuned to it.
half of this country did not like geo. bush.
now half of this country will not like the president or his wife.
my black people really didn;t have their eyes on what the real prize is for them in the future.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

I say, obama should not let hillary or bill campaign for him in the fall.
she should just go back to work in the senate.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Do not blame The Clintons. Democrate created superdelegates. Hillary was tireless for Campaign. We are proud of you and she is a woman.
McCain will be die in general election, get sick. I don’t know how HRC & Bo is not enough sleep.
Hillary, we love you

Posted by: indo45 | May 7, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Congradulations for coming out to vote against Obama as an informed citizen. But reality chk, even more informed citizens came out to vote for him. Sorry.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Clinton supporters of which I am one; do not be misguided by the Republicans pretending to be on our side and encouraging us to vote for McCain. I, a life long Democrat, will be changing my party affiliation to Independent. The reason being I do not feel that the Democratic Party is representative of US, the long term Democrats who believe and fought for Civil Rights, who experienced the rip off elections of Gore and Kerry and who now support Hillary Clinton. I have volunteered throughout the years driving to other states and staying in Hotels to help where ever I was needed at my own expense. I also have donated heavily throughout the years. What I have seen done to Hillary Clinton in the media is a great injustice. I have only a masters in History; however my passion for the subject has been deep since childhood. I have experienced racism, poverty and hunger. I have also experienced great devotion from teachers and others enabling me to become educated beyond my family’s hopes and dreams. I know that this country and its Constitution is not great solely because of leaders or events, but because of the People and the Power of Protest. It is what I teach my students every year! I am not abandoning the Democratic Party; I am leaving a party that has contributed to the great injustice we are witnessing against Hillary Clinton, the most intelligent, policy savvy candidate. It is the Democratic Party that has abandoned US for a novice because of the “forces that be” who want to anoint him within our party against the wishes of the loyal Dem base. I owe this party nothing! I owe the New Democrats for Obama absolutely NOTHING! I definitely owe Obama absolutely NOTHING! I will vote for Hillary Clinton alone, hopefully through a new THIRD PARTY. I encourage a split with the Democratic Party because it will be a ROARING PROTEST THAT THEY WILL FEEL. I will NEVER vote Republican!

Posted by: irma | May 7, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Yes — the democratic leaders are making a huge mistake. Hillary should be the nominee and if she is not I intend to vote mccain.

Posted by: jr | May 7, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Yes — the democratic leaders are making a huge mistake. Hillary should be the nominee and if she is not I intend to vote mccain.

Posted by: jr | May 7, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

I was a true Democrat until the party threw an experienced Senator, Hillary under the bus for a Johnny Come Lately Senator, Obama smooth talking his way to the nomination, we know nothing about this man and what he’s really all about or stands for, but just because he looks and sounds good people go running after him like he’s the great White Hope.
Well, this Black American is not falling for his deception, and when this man messes this country up even more due to his lack of experience, don’t cry Impreachment, because you could have prevented this by voting for a candidate who had a little more experience and qualifications to effectively do the job, you get what asked for, so don’t complain he does not live up to your expectations, be qutie and roll with the punches, you got what you deserved, maybe the Obama supporters will think about the cost before they vote for a knight and shinning inexperienced Armour riding into town deceptively preaching hope and change, I don’t trust the man, he should have been vetted even more than Hillary since he was the new kid on the block, but instead, Obama was cuddled and protected by the gender-biased media like a little bitty baby, I personally believe this happened, because this country is not truly ready for a Woman President, there’s still a glass ceiling that still exist when it comes to a woman trying to be President, the voters would rather have an inexperienced male over an experienced female as President, this is pitiful and down right a disgrace, woman are good enough to have the male President, but not be President herself, this shows and tells me how far this country his came when it comes to women seeking the highest office in the land.
Obama, as a Black inexperienced President would be in a lot of Congress-person hip pocket, he would own them a lot for allowing him to be President, they would run him into the ground,because he would owe a lot of favors to Kennedy, Kerry, Clyburn, and others for their endorsement, Obama would be a brought and paid for President, and if Obama does not do what they say, they would start calling for his Impeachment, calling Obama too inexperienced to continue holding the office of the Presidency, this could all be avoided by putting an experienced candidate forward to challenge McCain for the Presidency, Hillary is better perpared to beat McCain and run the office of the Presidency over Obama, someting new is not always good for you, Obama should not be trusted or taken the risk on turn run this country.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

How are democratic leaders making a mistake by following the voice of the voters. Hillary is being voted out of the election process, it’s that simple. Also there is already a movement out there and it’s moving away from the Clintons toward a new message with a new messenger.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Alot of the Obama supporters on here don’t want Hillary to help Obama’s campaign in the fall. I couldn’t agree more, and I guess they don’t want the support of any of Hillary’s supporters, once again I agree. It is becoming apparent that the DNC is not that in love with Hillary being in “their” party, she does not fit into “their” plans for what the Party should look like or think like, again I couldn’t agree more. I think Hillary should suspend her campaign and take some time and consider running as an Independent. Hillary can be applicable for federal funding and she still has her base to draw support from. Run straight down the middle, Obama on the “left” and McCain on the “right”. I think a independent, female president would be the biggest “change” in this country has ever seen. How does that sound to all of you?

Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

jbate, and fool me once,
i think obama should just let the clintons go on. and not let them campaign for him in the fall.
i think the dem. party will approve of this.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Yes, I hope Hillary does not ask to campaign for Obama, and I hope Obama does not ask Hillary to campaign for him, I want no parts of this party if Obama becomes the nominee, I will be voting for Hillary as an Write-in candidate or stay home, or may even vote for Ralph Nader to try and block Obama’s Presidency, Obama is not the right Black candidate to run this country, I want a Black Man or Woman to be President one day, but Obama is just not prepared enough for the job yet, being a good speech maker does not equate to being Presiedential material, and I’m not going to help unite this traitor party behind a green inexperienced Presidential candidate like Obama, it does not make any sense to me at all to take a risk on such a person when this country needs someone with a little more experience and qualififcations to try and turn this country around, Obama is just not the one for this day and time.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

jbate,
i don’t know what you are talking about,
you cannot be responding to one of my comments with what you are saying.
and i have never posted anywhere except here. on political punch.
go back and read
and I have been black for 53 years.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Why would Hillary want to be VP? So they can blame her for all of Obama’s mistakes?
Write in “HILLARY CLINTON” in November

Posted by: mpwdc | May 7, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Jim, I think that sounds great, since the Democratic Party Leadership and it’s voters threw Hillary under the bus for an inexperienced candidate, Obama, I believe Hillary should run as an Independent and take her supporters like me and you with her and run against Obama and McCain, I love your idea, maybe we and other Hillary supporters should work together to persuade Hillary to do this, since this party hates her so much, this would surely block Obama’s Presidency, which I believe should happen, because Obama is not prepared to effectively run this country, and should be the one to step down, a lot of Obama’s earlier votes where Republican cross-overs to try and make it easier for McCain to win the nomination, these same voters will go back to party lines and vote for McCain in the general election causing the Democratic Party to lose once again to the Republican Swiftboat Machine, I will just sit back and laugh because the party and it’s voters would have gotten what they desevered to taking the risk on an inexperienced candidate like Obama.

Posted by: In response to Jim from DarrellP | May 7, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

i believe the dems are realizing what a mess they have brewing in the fall.
the clintons have been very good for the dem. party. the dem. party has done the clinton’ wrong.
but you are right I hope after this obama will not expect to use sen. clinton’ brilliant mind to help him win the white house.
she is better than he is. and she should not be expected to help his dumb studdering, fumbling, stammering butt.
he cannot think on his feet. he cannot answer questions off the cuff.
he will be the black geo bush. the only difference is-half of the country will not like his wife, either.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

What the Democratic Party has done and are doing to the Clintons is shameful. The superdelegates were put into place for just this type of situation: to make sure the Party puts up the best person to challenge the opponent. The Party votes are split almost 50-50. The supers are saying they can’t do their job because they can’t take the nomination away from the African-American and the Black supporters of his candidacy? Not all Blacks support Obama. What about the half of the Party that supports Clinton? What about former Obama supporters that have changed their minds? What about voters in Florida and Michigan? For the Democratic Party to ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton is the most seasoned and vetted candidate, that Hillary Clinton has served her Party well for 30 plus years, that Hillary Clinton has a very limited number of years left to endure the rigors of the Presidency, that she is the candidate who can best stand up to John McCain in November, that Hillary Clinton has as much if not more of the voters behind her, then the Democrativc Party is stupid. I will not vote for Obama, the face of inexperience and unanswered questions.

Posted by: mpwdc | May 7, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Jim— Great Idea!
She might as well because many/most of her followers will NOT switch to OBama.
I think they’re much too anti-Auchi and Khalidi and Farrakhan and Dohrn and Rezko….. and that other “Agent of Change” Raila Odinga to march in BO;s parade!
I blame the media for a lot of this…. but the DNC is fatally fractured; I don’t think it’s capable of being glued together anymore.
It’s run by cretins with heads so big that they think they’re more powerful than the constitution!
They can think what they want, but our country should always be more important that the DNC,
For that reason, should Hillary become unavailable as a candidate, I would have no choice but to switch my vote to McCain ,,, unless she should hook up with another party!

Posted by: eyes wide open | May 7, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Darrellp…Thanks…I have a big enough checkbook to help Hillary out if she decides to go it as an independent. It would be a big step to take but your right about what happens if either Obama or McCain get into office.

Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Hillary knew the democratic nomination process, all about the superdelegates, all about the fact that the votes in Florida & Michigan weren’t going to be counted and said nothing. Why didn’t she speak up then if she had issues, only now that her coronation isn’t going as she planned does she mention it. Is that what qualifies her for the presidency, her ablity to speak up after the fact.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

yES DARELLP! Let’s do it! Spread the word people! Hillary all the way!

Posted by: irma | May 7, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

I know everyone is going say “sourgrapes”, but politicaly speaking I think Hillary could win running straight down the middle. She has a campaign staff and supporters who would back her, not all, but most. I think it is a viable idea, but she would have to decide relativly soon to gear up. Then she would represent the only true “independent” chance to “change” this country. No party alliance to influence the decision making, a true bipartisn cabinet. I hope Hillary at least explores the idea.

Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

jim, that is a great idea,
I an a hillary volunteer, i will go to the web site, and post a note on
hillaryhub. this is the site they ask for comments.
I think if she pulls out from the dems now. she might just have a chance.
she will beat obama and mccain.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

No way obama will win in November. I don’t want a united ticket with him and Hillary either. I’m sick of even hearing his name.
He has barely any experience, he served how many days in the senate?. Would you hire a carpenter without any experience to build you a house?
Well, I’m not voting for a guy who is full of speeches. Talk is cheap, he’s never walked the walk.

Posted by: Mary | May 8, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

I find it fairly interesting that with all the support of Hillary Clinton – not one supporter has indicated that ethics, integrity and plain old honesty are necessary to lead this nation. Since Truman and Ike we have seen a steady disintegration of values and moral fibre in our leaders. As an expat living in Australia, I am consistently asked why our election process is so long and why are we willing to put up with the muck racking and denigration.
I kind of wonder how all of the Clintonites can support someone who lied about her daughter running around the world trade center on 9/11 and having to duck into a Starbucks to avoid being hit by debris. You really want this type of person leading the nation? And her daughter never denies it publicly, even though she knows she was at a friends home in bed across the city at the time.
Truly sad that “rational” Democrats do not get the full picture. By the way, just what is the Democratic Leadership Conference? And what does Hillary and Bill have to do with it?

Posted by: MizuInOz | May 8, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am

Hi Mary!!
I’m totallt in agreement with you, Obama did not have the experience Hillary has had to be President, and these people have went wild , over his looks, skin color, and the way he sound, but not based on the issues of any substance or real solid solutions to his message, like you said talk is cheap, any good motivational speaker can be President if that’s all it take to get people all stirred-up to vote for him or her to be Commander and Chief, it shows you how shallow and gullible and brainwashable people can be., I beieve our party is making a huge mistake by making this inexperienced man our nominee.
I would like for you to Jim and me on spreading the word on all the political blogs on the Internet to encourage Hillary to run as an Independent and run right down the middle against Obama and McCain since the Demcratic Party and it’s voters insist on throwing her under the bus for an inexperienced “Johnny Come Lately” who’s feeding them a lot of crap for personal and political gain.
I don’t want Hillary in any way help unite this party or work with Obama to help him get elected, because he really does not deserve this position, let the Obama folks whoo and haa over him, let strong Hillary supporters like you and I work to persuade Hillary to run as an Independent, this will also help block Obama’s Presidency and teach the Democratic Party not to get behind a inexperienced candidate to run against the Rupublican Machine ever again. Obama is not to be trusted, and we should try other avenues to get Hillary elected while also trying to block Obama’s and the Democratic Party’s chances of getting back the White House, they don’t deserve it either if they’re going to make a poor and irresponsible decision as this to make a man that just come on the national scene with an eloquent speaking voice preaching hope and change, he’s not different than any other political and people are sweating this man like he’s the Great White Hope, what a shame,and misfortune.
All Strong Hillary Supporters need to concentrate more on trying to elect an experienced candidate like Hillary in office to try and turn this country in the right dirction, because Obama does not have the experience or know-how to accomplish such a difficult and challenging task, talk is cheap, Obama have no real solutions or plan with any substance to put this country on the rright track, you can tell that by what he say’s on the campaign trail and in former debates with Hillary, Obama is too scared and chicken to debate Hillary anymore, what a whuss, I really don’t want a President who is too scared to debate a woman anytime anywhere, if he was so sure of himself, he would be a man and step up to the plate and meet Hillary’s challenge anytime she asks, Obama is not a fighter, he want’s things handed to him, he feels all he has to do is wave his magic voice and people should snap to attention and follow him, I can imagine how he’s going to act if he had a chance to to talk with foreign digniteries, it would be a disater, he claims that we must talk with our friends and foes as well, well he could not prove that by me, if things don’t go Obama’s way, he whines, complains, and withdraw’s into a shell like a baby and cries racism or the moderaters was not fair, he did not say that when the moderaters where vetting Hillary, and Hillary did not act like him either, she roled with the punches and took her lases like and adult, not cry whine and complain like Obama did, Obama did this to get his misguided followers who fall for anything to feel sorry for him, well, if Obama can’t handle the heat now, he’s really going to boil over after the Republican Swiftboat Machine get through with him, Obama’s going to have a hissy fight, who he’s going to blame for his weaknesses then?
So Mary, please work with Jim and I and pass the word to all fellow strong Hillary Supporters throughout all the blogs and send letters to Hillary to encourage her not to back Obama or this Party and try and get her to run as an Independent if she fails to capture the nomination, let the Obama supporters on their own try an get inexperienced Obama elected, while we work on our end trying to get Hillary to run against the Democratic Party, Obama, and McCain for the Presidency, Hillary his enough supporters who would follow and support her as an Independent candidate.
Go Hillary!! This Black American is behind you all the way.

Posted by: In response To Mary From DarrellP | May 8, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

It is amazing some are so excited about NC primary.
What do you expect when Uncle Wright claims
“You are attacking black chuch”
This is BARELY public call on purpose
“You are not black enough”
For that, Uncle Wright deserves VP spot.
The primary SO FAR LEFT is
“The Emperor”s New Clothes”
Let us wait and laugh at end.

Posted by: jy2008 | May 8, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

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