Democratic Voter Groups: A Second Look

Kim, Whew!

Better take a much closer look. No matter what the polls (mostly fixed anyway) say, obama will NOT be elected president of the USA. It won’t happen. He DOES NOT like “typical white people” (meaning the “less educated” and poor, does NOT LIKE Senior citizens and does NOT LIKE the Jewish people or Israel. Prove that the does! He can’t prove this and these “uneducated” people are not dumb and no magical speech can fix this. They know when they are being lied to and manipulated and used. And obama is doing all three. So before you count your chickens – let’s just wait until the general election. If Hillary Clinton is not nominated, you can bet that more than 50% of the Hillary voters will vote for McCain – just to keep obama from winning – and the golden saint does need those votes to take the general and he cannot.
Period – bye bye obama. At the general he will lose by a landslide. People are not dumb like obama and his campaign want you to think. Huh – only the better educated and wealthy love obama? He has succeeded in forming a cult. But that is all.

Hillary should run as independent.
I want to see three candidates compete in the fall: Hillary, McCain, Obama. Obama is the last in my list.
It’s not good for the country, some elders forcing Hillary to withdraw. We want to elect the best candidate. The one currently heading in delegate count doesn’t mean he is the best.

Maybe Hillary and Mccain should team up..Boy what a way to stick iy to Obama..

We’ve all been in school before. We all know there are some students really capable, but they just can not get top scores in the exam, due to carelessness, ignorance, or other factors. But there are some sudents who are NOT top, but they are good at taking exams, because they just focus on the exams. They practiced a lot, prepared well, prepared all kinds of questions in the exam, don’t do outside or social activity, utilized all their time for preparing the exams.
Obama is that kind of student, only good at taking exams.
I don’t see Obama’s many achievements in real world. His only big achievement is in the campaign. Because the campaign, he doesn’t want to spend time running a single meeting for NATO, he doesn’t spend time attending Feb. black union’s party.
It’s very dangerous and risky to elect someone who is ONLY good at taking exams.
We should watch a candidate’s long-term career, what did he really do.
Just like a high school student, we can not focus on his score in ONLY one exam to determine which University he should go to; we should see all his records, all kinds of records in his whole student life, to see if he can enter the top school.
Obama wants change, right? This is a change we should have:
Change the election process.

Does anybody think the DNC is looking at all the numbers and states Obama will lose and voters he will never get, and really think they youth vote/black vote and radical liberal will put him over the top? Who is doing the fuzzy math. Still can’t believe because of the 11 wins in Feb., before anyone knew Obama, he rung up his delegate lead, yet Hillary has the popular vote. And the super delegates can chance their minds right up until August.

the republicans are scared !!!!
lol
look at you people?
Obama has inspired a nation, for change, he represents an america that no longer works on fear, but works to better US, and the World…
Its funny when people use his middle name as if its indicative of something..
You can play word games all you want, but saddam hussein has no relation to Barrack Obama…
saddam also had nothign to do with 911
Obama will be our next president because he can lead america on a better course, a logical course, and a healing course.
He is the only candidate that can heal the wounds of George W. Bush
while mccain will only continue the path of bush…
Obama 08

How many primaries did Dean win? Bradley? Who ran against Dole? anyone, bueller? bueller? We are almost in June and Clinton is winning primaries with 67%. How many of the examples were actually still running bot to mention cleaning the leader’s clock?

Reasons pundits will give out after Obama getting whacked in November:
1. Iraq war stopped being an issue.
2. Obama did not speak to working class white voters the way Hillary did regarding their economic distress.
3. McCain moved to the center more quickly than Obama could because of the protracted nomination fight.
4. GOP used racial tactics and wedge issues.
5. Obama did not address his stance on symbols of patriotism sufficiently.
6. The prolonged nomination fight damaged brand Obama.
7. Blah Blah Blah
8. Blah Blah Blah
They will never say “we promoted an unelectable candidate and we are not really pundits”.

I always laugh out loud when pundits, usually in the DNC, say that , oh, all the Dems will come together in Nov and vote for our candidate, no matter who it is, like we’re all one happy family and will sing “kum ba yah”! You don’t seem to get it, do you? It is not a party issue, it is what is safe for this country. OBAMA IS A DANGEROUS LIAR. Can you get that into your feeble pundit head? Millions of people agree. I, a lifelong Dem, WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR OBAMA. And if you decide to disregard and ignore our voice, you will hand the election over to the GOP with a big red bow. Count on it.

I have heard rumblings that in addition to the groups that are mentioned above, the AA community is also showing some reservations about Barack. As his anti-american, enemy appeasment stances start to shine through, more and more americans in all demographics are becoming nervous about what this candidate really stands for.
But make no mistake about this one thing. The DNC will not heal before November if Barack becomes the nominee. Most Hillary supporters are more than willing to take a stand against Barack Obama. He is far too radical, inexperienced, and his involvement in the Chicago Combine will continue to get ever increasing coverage and show that he is not the new shiney politicain he has tried to portray. This guy would put Al Capone to shame.

Whatever you say Nostradama
I guess you’ll be cracking up come November. Not only will he lose, but he’ll lose by an electoral landslide. This year the Republicans won’t NEED to steal the election. We’re handing it to them on a large silver platter.

Obama has been most liberal senator. He has problem with moderate dems. There is no evidence that he can unite this country. What he has done is the opposite. Only Hillary and McCain can cross the divide line.

It appears to me Hillary Clinton supporters are just as divisive as she is! Your hateful and angry rants won’t win the nomination for her.
Some of you voted for Bush because of the Bush name. Now look at the mess we are in! He is the worst president of all time! So some of you are willing to vote for another Bush in the likes of John McCain! If that isn’t insane I don’t know what is!
The elder Bush chose Quayle for his running mate. One paper noted that Dan Quayle was a Robert Reford look-a-like. How stupid! And he WAS stupid.
It’s time for a Democrat in the White House. IT WILL BE OBAMA!!!

You forgot Barack Obama has serious problems among Hispanic voters impacting negatively in several states.
John McCain who was born in Naval Base in Panama only need to match George W. Bush in 2004 election with 44% of Hispanic voters while John Kerry received 53%.
George W. Bush (286 EV Total) took Hispanic voters in key states:
44% of Hispanics in NM winning 50% to 49%(5 EV)
43% of Hispanics in AZ winning 56% to 44% (10 EV)
39% of Hispanics in NV winning 51% to 48% (5 EV)
56% of Hispanics in FL winning 52% to 47% (27 EV)
30% of Hispanics in CO winning 52% to 47% (9 EV)
49% of Hispanics in TX winning 61% to 38% (34 EV)
This primary in CA (55 EV) Barack Obama received only half of the votes of John Kerry in 2004 among Hispanics.
Hillary Clinton received 900K votes exceeding Kerry votes in 2004 among Hispanics.
There is already a poll with Barack Obama showing 2-1 advantage over McCain among Hispanics. However, a poll of July 2004 indicated John Kerry having a 2-1 advantage over Bush which was not correct as per the 2004 election results (exit polls).
washingtonpost.com
Quote: “At a time when Bush and Kerry are running about even among all registered voters, Kerry enjoys a 2 to 1 advantage over Bush among Latino registered voters. Hispanics give Bush lower approval ratings than the overall population does, and the poll shows that the bulk of the Latino community continues to identify with the Democratic Party.”
Democrats should not “dig their heads in the sand” on Barack Obama electability troubles among so many Democratic Voters Groups.

It is NOT the color of his skin, it’s his character and experience. He should NEVER be the leader of the greatest nation in the world. People are supporting him because he is “black” that is NO REASON to elect him.

America IS ready for a black president….
just not this one.
Michael Steele 2012 – a black man who doesn’t hang around terrorists and isn’t a Marxist and loves his country.

Obama has the vote of Blacks, for the reason of Solidarity and promised made to them. Making history of the first Black President.
He has a few whites, whom some wish they could take their vote back.
He has a few minorities, that have fallen to his mind manipulation.
He has a problem with the Jewish people, who do not trust him. evident by his friends, and church lobbying sanctions against Israel.
The lies the people have seen him constantly portray in the media.
His platforms being socialist or fascist.
His inflated ego, arrogance, and stupidity of the government, foreign relations.
His lack of experience with the exception of running for office.
His voting present on most issues and not committing or fight for anything for the people
His best friends, closest people to him in life, being everything this country does not stand for.
His inability to with stand any pressure, with out falling apart, getting flusters.
His refusal to answer direct questions. evading, eluding or two stepping or changing the subject.
His lack of knowledge, and only knowing what his camp scripts or makes cue cards for. Evident by his interviews and interviews on plane and buses.
Him being irresponsible making comments, statements and mandating to other countries, in speeches, interviews and to the press.
His efforts to divide this country, incite racism and racial problems. evident by what he has said, done and how he has acted.
His disrespect for this Country, the Government of this Country. Constantly condemning it and putting it down.
His Defiant disrespect for the office of President and the president, with his words, actions and deeds, breeching on the verge of treason.
His lack of honor and defiance to serve this country and the people.
Obama should never, ever be President of this Great Nation.

Anne, great post. The rest of the world wants to be US, Obama has it backasswards, as usual.

Great Caesar’s Ghost,
WRONG. Those guys would love someone like Michael Steele for president. And he could win. He is a patriot and not a radical like Obama.
You don’t know America at all. But keep on losing.

Obama is not qualified, period.
Hillary Clinton is the better candidate and electable.
I will never vote for an inexperienced newbie know nothing. He knows nothing
about what is needed to be president, never will the party dictate my voting for a loser!
I will write in the candidate Hillary Clinton the QUALIFIED, politically smart and savvy WOMAN!

Here’s some more number crunching I just received from a Talkleft reader as to electability in November, based on the past five Presidential Elections…
There are FIVE “BELLWETHER STATES”. These are states who have voted for the WINNER in ALL FIVE of the most recent Presidential elections. They are: Arkansas, Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, and Tennessee.
Number of these that HRC has won? FOUR (80%)
HRC’s Average Margin? 13.2%
There are THREE “VERY SWINGY STATES”. These are states who have voted Democratic in either 2 or 3 of 5 of the most recent Presidential elections. They are: Ohio, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
Number of these that HRC has won? THREE (100%)
HRC’s Average Margin? 21.3%
[More...]
There are SIXTEEN “STRONG REPUBLICAN STATES”. These are states who have voted Republican in 5/5 of the most recent Presidential elections.
Percentage of HRC’s wins from REP-States? 15% (3/20)
Percentage of BHO’s wins FROM REP-States? 41% (12/29)
There are NINE (9) “STRONG DEMOCRATIC STATES” (Democratic in last 5/5).
Percentage of HRC’s wins from DEM-States? 10% (2/20)
Percentage of BHO’s wins from DEM-States? 07% (2/29)
BOTTOM LINE: HRC “Kicks Serious Booty” in Bellwether and Swing States, and BHO has relied on winning states that have not shown ANY inclination of voting Democratic for President.

gammaraygus’s post at 2:00:09pm is correct. Sen. Clinton lost support from black voters for those very reasons.

Great Caesar’s Ghost—-sorry Jo is correct. America should have a person that is uplifting and supportive of our culture, history and traditions. Obama has his own culture thing with the Trinity Church, he doesn’t know his history, he thinks we have 57 states, and well for traditions—”I will not wear the American Flag pin” out of his mouth, not mine. Now he is wearing the pin because his campaign manager said to put it on! I want a President that listens to the public, has tears in his eyes when he thinks of the thousands that have sacrificed their lives to keep America great and know that it is his job to protect and nurture America during his term of office—-not announce that the rest of the world dislikes us because of the way we live and therefore WE MUST CHANGE. His idea of “change” is not American.

This election is now up to the DNC to win or lose. It’s up to the Super Delegates to win or lose. It’s really pretty simple stuff. A community organizer does not a President make. The man, Barack is quickly becoming a fatally flawed candidate. His rise to fame is no accident. In 2006 the republicans started a “Be a democrate for a day” movement. Designed to propell Barack and subvert democracy via a flawed caucus system. The far left bought into the idea and wala! We’ve invented a candidate with no experience, problem solving abilities, little background, ect. In other words, a perfect little puppet. Hillary supporters ain’t gonna buy it.

Obama says “I will not wear the American Flag pin” and there are several pictures on the internet showing him with his hands at this side when EVERYONE else has their hands over their hearts in “respect” for the nation’s flag. Yesterday on Fox News there is a picture on the cover Obama Ready to Wrap Up Primary Season by Fox News.com , Tuesday 27, 2008, showing him wearing the flag pin, his hand over his heart, facing a veteran wreath. They have to sell the image now to wrap up this primary season. What everyone has seen, witnessed and heard must all be put away now because Obama is portraying the patriot roll. What was it last week, oh yes the messiah roll with him standing in front of huge cross. Obama chief strategist David Axelrod is good. Maybe we should vote for him for President.

ghost:
If we can’t have Hillary, YES we DO deserve McCain, who is a much more qualified candidate than Obama. He also a true unifier vs the “Unifying Liar” Obama. Get it in your thick skulls, Obama is an INEXPERIENCED, Divisive, Arrogant, Flip-Flopping up-start whom we’ll NEVER vote for. Let him take his speeches to Iran, North Korea,Hamas and Cuba where he’ll degrade the office of the US presidency to meet unconditionally with terrorist states. He’s a make believe IDIOT, living in a fairy tale world and drinking his own Kool-Aid!

hillary’s experience….she was bill’s wife. That’s it, that’s all.

You can wrap up Obama with a cherry on top, and he still won’t get elected. Wright, Ayers, Michelle, Farrakhan, etc., will have to slither back into the cesspool from whence they came.

JP! what a pleasure!;)))
Liberal comes from LIBERTY! Are you ashamed of being a liberal? And what is radical liberal anyway? Too much freedom or what?
Liberty means freedom! Am I right? And what is USA spreading around the world? I guess it is LIBERTY!
But after JP comment I am so confuse ;)))

Mack, show me the connection between Obama and Farrakhan.
Michelle is his wife.
Jeremiah Wright was his pastor, not his political advisor.
Ayers…another person he knows. Did you write the university asking why they hired him, knowing his past?

Obama shares Jeremiah’s radical views.
Mainstream Americans know it.
Obama supporters deny it, but Obama’s actions for the last 20 years speak much louder than his recent words.

credit to “mark” on another blog. Yet another LIE from BHO. How much more evidence do you need?
Barack Obama spoke about Auschwitz back in 2002 in his speech against the Iraq War:
My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain. I don’t oppose all wars.
Newsmax reported on this back in April:
All this would be great if it weren’t pure fiction. For starters, the Nazis destroyed the Treblinka death camp in 1943 after shooting the last prisoners, a group of Jewish girls.
Then there is the problem of the locations of Treblinka and Auschwitz. Both Nazi death camps were located inside Poland. Thus, no American troops ever entered the camps until years after the war was over.
Auschwitz was taken by the Soviet Union after the Nazis evacuated most of the prisoners. The retreating Nazis left those too weak or sick to walk behind. The 322nd Rifle Division of the Red Army liberated them on Jan. 27 1945.

“Ayers…another person he knows”. He decided to associate himself with radicals and other nefarious characters. No one else did. He’s too smart to claim he didn’t know what these people were about.

USmarine, explain Obama’s actions over the last 20 years. What has he done that says he believes the views of Jeremiah Wright?

Debra, have you forgotten about the states that hillary got trounced?
Also, what is the percentage of black americans in Oregon?

Mack….’no one else did’?
What does that mean? Ayers is a professor at a University. Are you concerned about his views being taught to young impressionable minds? Isn’t that a concern to you?
Or are you just concerned about slamming Obama for knowing him and living in the same neighborhood? His acquaintance is a nonissue.

He’s a big boy. He doesn’t need apologists to interpret his mis-steps for him. He just needs to have the courage to stand up and explain why he associated himself with people that have a radical agenda.

You’re right Mack. And I believe he has explained his associations. Remember, again….he was ‘introduced’ to Ayers by other political bigwigs in Chicago.
Again, Ayers was hired by the University, and I believe he now heads one of the Departments.

“And I believe he has explained his associations.” If he has, then it was insufficient. I can’t recall him explaining it to my satisfaction. He’s running for President, so he’s guilty until he proves himself innocent. Just like McCain had to prove that he doesn’t have cancer. If he believes in a new style of politcs, then why hasn’t he been forthcoming about his relationships?

boopme
its not a wasted vote if you feel a vote for Obama wil delegitimaze the election and therefore the wrong candidate will win… I will never vote for Obama even though I have been democrat all my life… and the majority of democrats think that so good luck getting Obama elected its not goin to happen!

From now on, every time someone makes a comment even remotely political to me, I’m going to ask them if they VOTED. Not whom they voted for, but IF they VOTED! If the answer is no, and they were eligable to do so, I’m turning off my hearing aids.

Mack
the whole thing is that Michlle O made him be in that church as well as a lot of other things… like mayeb running for president… because that would be”the first time she was ever proud of her country” the man is a whimp and Hillary is right on every issue… he needs a babysitter in the white house and cant get there without the help of Hillary!

dem38, if the “majority” of democrats were voting for hillary, she would be winning. Remember, she was the inevitable candidate, with an ex-president husband, started out ahead with over 100 superdelegates…the clinton political machine.

Mack!
We are not electing a personal pastor this November. We are electing somebody else!
don’t mix politics and church too much!

Soetoro give it up, you won’t find many that believe that manufactured bs.

dem38, I’m wrong? Hmmmm, and why is that….because she’s a woman?

well it benefited your candidate and those are the facts and more democrats voted for Clinton there is not any polling data anywhere that disputes that!

dem38, just so you understand…
I voted for bill twice. hillary being in the white house doesn’t make her more qualified than anyone else.
I DID research the candidates, which is why my support goes to Senator Obama.

LA
your research I guess was infulenced by your political leanings not who is bets for the country… and your still wrong! and Sen Clinton is more qualified and Mccain is more qualified than Obama thats a no brainer

Obama is a FRAUD & a LIER with a RADICAL questionable background.
He is NOT Qualified to be President of the USA.
The Hillary Supporters will NEVER vote for Obama! So – without the MILLIONS of Hillary VOTERS obama may win the nomination BUT NEVER the White House!
The DNC caused this mess – now they will loose – again!

Wasn’t it bill clinton in 2004 that said vote for the candidate that appeals to your hopes, not your fears?!
His wife wasn’t paying attention.
And she has you scared dem38….I’m sorry.

LA
um all Obama has is the words Hope and Change and they are just words..Obama will not be able to deliver! I was invited to Bill Clintons first innauguration in 93 and votd for dukkais in 88 … Obama is No Bill Clinton and will not receive his mantle .. he will lose in the GE!

I have re-registered Independent dem38. I have become disappointed by the racism coming out of the democrats.

LA
what do you people that are military have against the clintons Obama beign commander and chief would look more silly than Sen Kerry! Hes not the messiah and the answer!

dem38
bill clinton disgraced OUR house, so I don’t believe he should be anywhere near the white house again.
hillary….she’s a deceitful, dishonest liar.

This is the first time I have ever been so involved in a primary process and I just wonder if there has ever been this kind of passionate hatred/support for any prior candidates before Obama/Clinton. I think the Dems ARE in trouble, because the Republicans are NOT arguing about McCain and some other Republican, except BUSH who McCAIN IS NOT. Seriously, McCain is the most liberal Repubican which makes him even more appealing to the DEM defectors who will never be as Liberal as Obama. What a perfect fit.

debra
you are right… the obama lefties arer just out for their agenda … they even think that sending protesters to Mccains speech today was a good idea! The war is a non issue now.. whats donr has been done … it wasnt Hillarys fault for starting the war and Obama since being in the seate hasnt tried to stop it that is all!

LA in Indiana
and the Supreme court issue is a nonstarter as well! nobody cares abotu Roe v Wade etc anymore there are more pressing economic issues

Roe v Wade will not be revisited. We do not turn back the hands of time on moral issues…look at our society…sex on every channel, morality in the toilet. I am telling you Pro Choice will always be available to women in his country.

dem 38…I agree, they sent protesters into McCain’s rally today, and it’s stupid. The war is out, and McCain handled it great with humor and strength. Media turning away from Iraq, because Americans don’t like defeat, and McCain is the man to bring this thing to a close, in the right time. Our servicemen are behind McCain.

Ghost..I am an American first, who usually votes Rep., but voted Hillary, as I feel she is the brightest, hardest working candidate and I like the two for one theory. Wouldn’t hurt to have a political genius as spouse.
I also donated to Hillary’s campaign and have never donated before. However, I will be working for McCain in the fall, because I can’t stand Obama as president. He’s fine as a person….JUST NOT POTUS.

They need a little time to calm down and try to make up.???????
This is his quote.
Are you kidding me apparently the author doesn’t know women well.
Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman Scorned.
I know this Voter will Write in Hillary Clinton , WHY because she is the most qualified, I REFUSE TO VOTE FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, I still have a choice and its still HILLARY>

I want you to think as the United States of America as Yourself,your beloved child or your Spouse.
Your United States of America has a Medical condition that will suely kill it if you make the wrong choice in the General Election this fall.
Put yourself in this scenario;
Your United States of America, You, Your spouse or child are critically ill and will die without a blood transfusion or a Organ Transplant.
We know scientifically that the Blood and DNA of Minorities is the same as a White Person. The only Donors available are Minorities.
Would you refuse the available Leader/Candidate, Blood or Organ, That would save the United States of America, You, Your Spouse or your beloved Child? Just because you were mad that it did not come from the same Race you belonged to or the same Gender?
If not? Then how can you reject the Only available Democratic Candidate? Who is the last hope for this United States of America during this General Election?
I think that we need to get off of the Negative Rethoric and join together to do what is best for the United States of America and for ALL of it’s Citizens.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL OF IT’S CITIZENS.

Except, Davis, there are 17 million Hillary supporters and a majority of them WILL NOT VOTE OBAMA, so the Bob Barr is a non issue for McCain will all that Hillary love.

The many comments made here by misguided people describes the prejudice that exists in their own hearts and minds.
So how do we know that a candidate is ready to be a president?
1. Good Judgement.
2. Leadership
3. Humility
I am a Greek citizen from a nation that founded Democracy and once believed in th American Dream Not American policy, that affects the world so I vote for
1. Barak Obama!+Real Americans fighting for change.
I do not look at his color of skin but instead at the content of his character that is rigorously put to the test by a very cynical nation. Once a beacon of the world may now vote for change. Well the future rests in the hands of those willing to search their hearts and minds for ‘the truth’ will set Americans free to lead the world once again or maybe not we shall see…
My love goes out to all those haters in America that need it the most – Change is in the Air. Give in to love as love knows no boundaries or color it brings people together forever by that I mean God’s love for all its creation. God did not only choose to love white people or black people he made us all equal despite the limited experiences that we may have had to exercise this shared value of love. Now is the time to embrace it and never look back to hate is the enemy to LOVE IS THE FUTURE!

Are you all serious? You sound like some petty, ridiculous children!! Obama has done nothing to insult women or other Clinton voters. Let’s face it…the problem is that Clinton lost to an unknown, and you refuse to accept it. Obama and Clinton have virtually the same policies! For women democrats to say that they will vote for McCain is insane (there’s no other word for it). He is strictly pro-life, willing to put VERY conservative judges on the Supreme Court and is adament about staying in Iraq. What is wrong with you people!! If you were for Clinton’s policies, wouldn’t you still vote for the candidate who is as close to her policies as possible?? Why would you vote for someone who is completely against everything that she stands for…just to prove what?? It will only make your lives crappier. I refuse to believe that there are this many idiotic people out there! I feel as if I am in the playground and you CHILDREN are mad because you lost a game of tag. GET OVER IT and GROW THE HELL UP!!

It is amazing how many people will vote against there own economic interests because of political spin from a party or persons who have gained from their ability to divide and deceive the American people.
So i hope that every last Clinton supporter votes for McCain, so that you can continue to benefit from the same misinformation that you have been swallowing for tha last eight years.

Wow, so much for a country coming together in order to solve a problem. I for one am not in favor of being in the same war in five years. I would enjoy having a candidate who doesn’t reek of dirty money from large corporations who play him/her like a puppet in the white house. If by “experience” you mean years of being sucked in to what we now precieve american politics, then yes I am looking for the candidate who has no experience. And which candidate is the only one who hasn’t been attacking the others and playing on their every mistake? Oh, that’s right the only legit human being on the ballot.

This comment is #141 so maybe the author won’t see it. But I have a numbers-crunching question.
I’m a Clinton supporter and the Clinton supporters I know, including myself, do not appear to have any intention of ever supporting Barack Obama.
I see the numbers of what it looked like in the past. But I think the divisions that have been revealed in the primaries are the major divisons in the Democratic Party itself.
The fact that Clinton has 17 million supporters and the DNC is going to simply ignore them is like nothing I’ve ever seen before. Has that ever happened in politics? How many supporters did Bill Bradley have in 2000? How about Paul Tsongas?
Why does anyone actually expect Clinton supporters to support the DNC? I can’t think of a single reason.
Gary Langer has given us the numbers of how many voters moved over to the eventual candidate in the past. I think this year, all those stats can be thrown out the window.
I’d love to see the numbers crunched that show a risk analysis of just what percentage of Clinton supporters Obama needs in order to carry the nomination.
The exits polls say about 50% will do something other than support BHO.
If those figures actually bear out, can he still win?
10% of 17 million is 1.7 million.
If 1.7 million Democrats vote for McCain, can BHO still win?
If 1.7 million more Democrats write in Clinton’s name, how does that shake out? If another 1.7 million stay home, does that affect it?
Whether they know it or not, I believe the DNC is in a major crap shoot right now, and they are naively depending on everyone “coming together.”
It’s pretty obvious now that we are not going to come together. So I just think it would be interesting for someone to start crunching numbers, as if the Clinton supporters like me really will not be voting for a Democrat in the general, after voting for a Democrat in the primaries.

I am astounded at the number of Obama supporters who think the slander, the “God Damn America”, the Hillary crying priest, and the attitude of Axelrod (is anyone else puzzled why they keep putting a guy who for all the world looks exactly like Hitler on the TV to give their pitch?) to the “stupid white people” will be forgotten in November. In 40 years I have never voted for a Republican in a state, local or national election. I was an Edwards supporter this year.
It appears my first vote for the darkside will be for a white guy…jeesh. Too much Facebook, and not enough Book of Life in our Party today. Well, not my Party anymore. I guess I have just become an independent or something. Well, Libertarians at least get high, I hear….