By Saira Anees

May 5, 2008 2:19pm

Has Obama’s Superdelegate Momentum Slowed?

Karen Travers of ABC News’ Political Unit crunched some numbers on my request.

Since March 14, when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright story first hit GMA, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has picked up 62 superdelegates to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s net of 20.

Since April 22, when Clinton handily won the Pennsylvania primary, she has netted 12 superdelegates to Obama’s 21.

But since Wright appeared at the National Press Club on April 28, she has netted 11 — and he has gained 17.

- jpt

UPDATE: Inevitably, moments after posting this, the Obama campaign announced two more superdelegates — so just today he has gained three to Clinton’s zero. But the day is still young.

User Comments

No.

Posted by: Rick | May 5, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Well it is actually 20 by midday today and some more forthcoming.
So we are going to near the proportion of the week before.
Also considering some of those are add-on delegates, they are added only according to a predetermined schedule which has NOTHING to do with momentum.

Posted by: Benjamin | May 5, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Those superdelate totals mean nothing until they actually vote at the convention. Anyone who thinks they will get away with not counting FL and MI must be an Obama supporter.

Posted by: geevill | May 5, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Jake,
It amazes me. I do wonder just how etched in stone these delegates are. They really are not, not by the DNC rules.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 5, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

There are 3 SDs to come to the Obama campiagn from Illinois
To the question…no
He’s still won more then her even in the worst 3 weeks of his campaign… that tells you something

Posted by: Vanessa | May 5, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Obama will surpass 1.5 million individual internet donors sometime today as per the May 6th goal.

Posted by: proseandcon | May 5, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

It is amazing to me that even in an area where the momentum is CLEARLY with Senator Obama, this question must still be asked. Shouldn’t the headline of this article “Where is Hillary’s post-PA Superdelegate Bounce?”
Not this time Jake.

Posted by: Nobodys fool | May 5, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Sad ti think that people are stil blaming Fl and MI on Obama. The state dems and Reps decided this by voting early . They knew the consequences but still took the chance. Now they want sympathy. All those voters went out thinking they were doing the right thing were duked…I think to be fair they shoudl split the vote. Especially in MI. How can you say you won there if you ran against no one. I guess it is Clinton Law.

Posted by: carnival | May 5, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

geevill,
For the life of me I cannot imagine not counting FL and MI and these supers staying with Obama. Here is a quote from Ted Kennedy in yesterday’s Boston Herald. Note he does not sound so sure of Obama:
“Sen. Edward M. Kennedy admitted yesterday that Barack Obama is running out of time to sew up the Democratic presidential nomination but remains “hopeful” the Illinois senator will overcome Hillary Clinton’s late surge.”
and
“I’ll be out across the country. We’re beginning to run out of time, but I’ve been campaigning and traveling,”

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 5, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Jake forgot to mention the Couple of Super Delegate defections Hillary’s camp had over the referenced time period as well. Do you think Jake is secretly a Republican who just wants this thing to continue?

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 5, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Jake’s a funny dude. Let me put it simply: If Hillary does not win North Carolina, this race is done. She is now down 150 delegates. Even with FL & Michigan, she will still be down 100 delegates. She has no shot of catching him.

Posted by: Kevin | May 5, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Come on Tapper.
I know Hillary and Obama is good for ratings
but I think Obama and McCain will also be great
for some hits.
Hillary played out the last “uncommited” Supers she
had and Obama STILL is wiping the floor with her.
Don’t forget to count the Illinois add ons that
are official today.
More like 6-0!

Posted by: Mickey Blue | May 5, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

We will see SD movement after Tuesdays election outcomes. They have been hanging back- waiting to see. And they should hold back – all of them should hold back until all of the voters have cast their ballots. I sure hope the DNC revamps their idiootic and confusing primary process and rules.

Posted by: this election counts | May 5, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Don’t listian to the media especially ABC News, they are so biased and they takes tiny bits of the truth and turn it into lies to suit their needs. How disgusting.

Posted by: kito11 | May 5, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

The last time i checked, this race is still about delegates. And since it is about delegates, then Obama has already won. The party leaders will not tear up the party to elect Clinton, unless Obama completely collapses. North Carolina will tell us tomorrow whether his coalition of educated white liberals, young folks, and blacks, have stood by him. For Clinton to have a shot, she needs to cut deep into his BASE. But since it seems she is running a prototypical Republican campaign and only focusing on blue collar whites, then she has invariably conceded the race. Blue collar white folks are not TYPICAL Democrats and there are no enough of them to save her. Obama can win without them.

Posted by: Kevin | May 5, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

If Obama gets the nomination i”ll
vote for McCain in november.

Posted by: NIcholas | May 5, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

No, Hillary is out. Get over it ABC!

Posted by: blake | May 5, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

geevill
Even if you add FL & MI, Clinton will still be trailing by 100 delegates. But we both know his name wasn’t even on the MI ballot and they are tied in the polls in MI.

Posted by: Kevin | May 5, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Jake,
Thanks for reporting the news.
Everyone needs to lay off Jake. Everyone is very passionate about their support. Jake has reported both sides.
To be honest, I consider Jake to be one of the few people from ABC that have covered this election unbiased.
A writer is supposed to try to write stories that are interesting.
The reality is super delegates are really getting turned off by Hillary acting like a Republican. She’s thrown everything at Obama that she can. She’s thrown the rules in the DNC face.
Super delegates have seen Hillary take this to a level never seen before. That is why more and more super delegates are standing up.

Posted by: Dan | May 5, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

countal….you forgot this phase:
“He still offers the best opportunity for new leadership in this country,” Kennedy said.

Posted by: carnival | May 5, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

So, what else is new, NIcholas?
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | May 5, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

It shows Hillary is getting desperate and she and Bill are putting the arm on supers and people like George Stephanopolis (how did the Smushee girl from Seinfeld ever fall for him).

Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 5, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Demconwatch has a nice graph of the superdelegate gap, would have saved Karen some number crunching.
Things have slowed, but it is inexorably going in Obama’s favor, even more so recently. (They are a week or so behind in updating the graph.)

Posted by: trudy | May 5, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Nicloas…too bad. YOu” be voting for 10 or more years of war, kiiling thousands more young men and women…another 4 years fo Bush. If Clinton wins I will vote for her even though I don’t support her.

Posted by: carnival | May 5, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

It is really sad to see people throw their country away for their pride…

Posted by: carnival | May 5, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

These it is disgrace to back Clintons.

Posted by: LINDA,FL | May 5, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Obama may win the nomination, he will lose the election. Why would the DNC put up a loser to run against McCain? Once Florida and Michigan is resolved, Hillary will have won the popular vote. If she is the nominee, a lot of African-Americans will vote for her. I’m African-American and I know. This argument about losing AA is bunk. She is the strongest candidate. He looks tired and drawn. She looks fresh and ready to beat McCain about head and shoulders. I hope the Superdelegates put up the stronger candidate because if they don’t, we’ll lose for sure in the general election.

Posted by: Lois, California | May 5, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Dan/Kevin,
Delegates must show up and vote to elect the nominee at the convention. That is the rule. Tomorrow could be the end of Obama. KY, WV, and PR will be massive blowouts for Clinton.

Posted by: geevill | May 5, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Thesen days it is disgrace to back Clintons.
More and more people understand the danger, that tghey can bring.
Decent people back Obama.
And will.

Posted by: LINDA,FL | May 5, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Lois…I guess you haven’t seem the bags under her eyes lately…she is exhausted as well as Bill. I think if he gets upset one more time he’ll have a coronary..

Posted by: carnival | May 5, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Putting Florida in Obama still has the popular vote, MI you can’t count because Obama was not on ballot, and Hilary only still receive 45 % of the vote
I always thought the dems/libs wanted the popular vote to count but now they have the elitist saying the superdelagates should over ride voice of the democrats people!!

Posted by: spock | May 5, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Lois,
Her inevitable loss to McCain has nothing to do with support from any demographic. It has to do with:
A) Her Baggage
B) Bill’s Baggage
C) her behavior in this campaign
D) Clintons are to Republicans as red is to Bulls
E) She can’t seem to fundraise her way out of a paper bag
F) She’s trying to argue experience with a man who has vastly more experience
G) McCains biggest weakness will be the “he’s just like Bush” argument. She keeps acting like Bush, sounding like Bush, and siding with the Republicans in this campaign, negating this opportunity.
I could go on, but please, take away from this that race and gender have nothing to do with why Hillary will lose against McCain.

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

You’re killin’ me with these headlines….
NO, the momentum is there, Obama is picking up twice as many as HRC, and something like five today…..it’s not a tight race, Obama is winning and will get the nomination….
I swear it seems like you’re baiting us.
You’d think someone IN the news would READ some of the news.

Posted by: Barry Scott | May 5, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

It seems Obama can always find some 3rd tier democrat to throw under the bus. How many of them though are in tight races? None, I’m sure. They’d have to have a death wish to come out for a candidate who’s sinking fast.
End the Drama – Pull the Plug on Obama!!

Posted by: s. valenti | May 5, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

No, Mr. Tapper.
It sounds like you are creating a bad times for Obama talking point than accurately reflecting what the superdelegates are doing. Wouldn’t be more helpful to tell us what superdelegates are demanding from Hillary and Barack in order to support their campaigns?
What are Hillary reporters going to do if she is the nominee? Will you guys give McCain the same passes he is getting now? Or will you have to hold your nose and accept Obama?

Posted by: Genna | May 5, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Just wait until Tomorrow. Mr. Hope will be finished after Hillary beats him in Indiana and maybe, in NC. If she doesn’t win NC (I think she WILL WIN IT), and comes close, Mr. Hope can kiss his SDs good bye. They will FLOCK to the ONLY candidate that can beat McCain. It’s not Mr. Hope.

Posted by: Vickie | May 5, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

GREENVILLE, North Carolina (AFP) – New polls gave Hillary Clinton fresh hope on the eve of two primaries Tuesday which will shape the endgame of her gripping White House combat with Democratic foe Barack Obama.
Looks like Doug Wilder may have to resort to rioting in the streets.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Mr. Obama will be the nominee. He will have the majority of the delegates. Ironically, Mrs. Clinton may finish with more popular votes than Mr. Obama or Mr. McCain. Although the FL and MI votes will not be a factor in the selection process, the permanent record will reflect the final tally in her favor.

Posted by: texasdemocrat | May 5, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

28 YEARS is just way too long for a Clinton or bush to be in the 1 or 2 spot. Time to go for a fresh start. Time to put the Hillary campaign out of it’s misery like eight belles was yesterday at the derby. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 5, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Is the Obama campaign still reannouncing support of superdelegates to give the impression of gains, or are these superdelegates actually new pledges?
With Obama, you never know for sure.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

That’s ok Jake, we know you’re trying and it worked. You got Obama to pump out 2 more. I hear he’s getting 3 from Mich or Illinois (I forgot) this afternoon or later this week.

Posted by: Karen | May 5, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

If Obama does get the Nomination, he will lose so badly in the general…..
Look at how we are in the Democratic Nominations so far….. this is like a playground compare to what the Republicans will come out with during the general.
If Obama is worn out now…..
People are already sick of his speeches, and excuses for everything under the sun about him……
Obama is becoming a joke faster than any candidate.
Kerry was farther ahead before he got slammed……
The country will not crowd around a weak man like Obama…….
The polls will say it’ll be close—- the but the actual voting will say otherwise…….
( you can not end a 20 year relationship with a speech…..Rev.Wright will be back whether anyone likes it or not )
And the Democratic Party has swung too far-left for anyone to stomach with Obama as their Leader anyways…….
As far as the Superdelgates are concerned— they know he will lose too—– they only crowd around him cause he has money for them if they did……

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

the least you could do is answer your own headline question: NO!!!

Posted by: forthebirds | May 5, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

And, wasn’t it Democrats who whined loudly about Al Gore winning the popular vote and not winning the Presidency?
Now, the same party is ready to give their own nomination to a candidate who will probably not win the popular vote.
And, that’s an Obama candidacy will put McCain in the White House.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

you do not get anymore biased than huffington. this woman moved to the big time and got herself all over tv, trashing the clinton’ in the 90.
she is just an opportunist, i put her right in line with matt drudge. tabloid hawks-thats all they are.
I do not trust anything from af.
today she is with you
tomorrow she disses you
nothing fair about her.

Posted by: jgaw | May 5, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

No way can mc-more-war beat Obama in the fall. You bloggers don’t realize how many new voters Obama has brought with him. He has financed his campaign with normal citizens (which I think is Fantastic). I predict an Obama landslide this fall against an OLD man who will basically offer a bush third term. So GET REAL people. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 5, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

jake,
when are you going to do a story about how obama the uniter has caused such a divide in the black community?

Posted by: jgaw | May 5, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Even with bumps in his campaign and Obama having to explain words that are not his own he still gains MORE Super delegates than Clinton.

Posted by: Wayne | May 5, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

In case you missed it – he got 6 super delegates today alone – perhaps you’ve been covering this too long – his momentum never slows up, even with all the negative publicity you MSM keep beating to death.
Cover the Peter Paul election fraud case against Clinton
Cover the Obliterate Iran being a crime according to the UN rules
Cover the fact that in a 2005 interview with CBS, Hillary agreed with John McCain to staying in Iraq LONG TERM.
Those are things the voters should be told about. Problem is everyone knows that ABC is working for the Clintons in this election cycle – George Snuffaluffagus hosting a townhall meeting for her when he was a staffer for Clinton. Biased slant is all too obvious, you are not the news, you are Fox News II

Posted by: Anne P | May 5, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

You also forgot about the super delegate he picked up this morning. Today Obama 3 Clinton 0

Posted by: Jim | May 5, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

The Super Delegates pledged to Obama had already pledged and were announce last week already. So why should this be NEW news? Obama will not win the general election. The DNC is imploding and obama/Kennedy/Kerry-Heinz/Biden have had their hands in this implosion. If the DNC gives the nomination to obama John McCain will be our next president and that is not so bad in itself. I very much trust John McCain and I see him as a True American and a Patriot. I see Hillary Clinton as a True American and a Patriot. I do not see obama as either. Its too bad the Super Delegates are only supporting obama for the financial support from his campaign. Its hard to accept that electing a USA president is all about who has the most money and the most wealthy support. Sort of makes the entire process a farce doesn’t it. I will vote for John McCain if obama gets the nomination. If Hillary is not nominated by the DNC, maybe she can go Independent and then win the election. That would be a good thought.

Posted by: Lou | May 5, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Obama has gained 3 SDs today and will gain an extra 3 from Illinois either today or tomorrow

Posted by: Vanessa | May 5, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

If the media gets a hold of the recording… Hillary is finish

Posted by: Vanessa | May 5, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Is Politico’s super delegate right?
I thought I checked it earlier today. Obama was down by 20.
This afternoon, Politico is showing Obama is down by only 12 super delegates.

Posted by: Dan | May 5, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

If Hillary gets the nomination, I will vote for Obama on a third party ticket.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 5, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

If I was a SuperDelegate I would vote for Obama too— cause he will give me alot of Money…. you can bet on that.
And it would not matter if he wins or lose– as long as he pays me now for my vote……UNLESS he promises me a Cabinet Position— then I would try to get on all the Pundits’ news…..and work really hard to convince the folks that OBAMA is the one…. Whatever that means……. with a straight face……NOT!…lol.

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Here is a fair question that ABC should report on:
why did it take only 2 years for Oprah to recognize Wright is wrong and left the church, and it took Obama more than 20 years to do so (under public pressure)?
Obama has to answer this before Americans can trust him (his beliefs first and his judgement second) to lead the country.
See the Newsweek article:

Posted by: AMy | May 5, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Well….I don’t know where ABC gets their info but Barack Obama picked up 9 superdelegates today alone. There is now only 14 difference between both candidates compared to 50 before. Get your facts straight!
Obama ’08

Posted by: Obana supporter | May 5, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

LOIS FROM CALIFORNIA.
I agree 100% with your comments.
Obama cannot win against the republican
in november.
Hillary is the one to win in november
against McCain.
Hillary has better leadership skills,
and cares about the middle class in
America.
We all know Bill Clinton gave us 8
years of peace and economic prosperity.
We all must remember those years….

Posted by: NIcholas | May 5, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

After Hillary wins in both states we need to think about an independent party I bet she could beat them both as an independent .

Posted by: Bishop | May 5, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Where is the report on the hugh lie she made today about coming back from a hugh deficit in the polls for Indiana? You know, with so many blogs keeping tabs of the ongoing polls, that she would have known that people would be able to confirm this. Is she pathological?

Posted by: Larry | May 5, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

There is something that just doesn’t work with Obama’s strategy.
American politics is a RUTHLESS game. You don’t come out waving the WHITE flag and hope your opponents will do the same. Which is exactly what Obama is doing. Obviously, HOPE doesn’t inspire Americans. But Bill and Hil seem to do with all their dirty tricks.

Posted by: Lance D. | May 5, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Nicholas you are right, the Clintons will bring a lot of experience to the Whitehouse. Experience with handling Impeachment, Experiencing getting your brothers rich through a pay for pardon scandal. experience with hiring hillbilly cronies from Arkansas to run the Whitehouse travel office. Experience in getting campaign donations by renting out the Lincoln bedroom in the Whitehouse, what great experience you are supporting.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 5, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Howard Dean said this weekend that the FL & MI delegates would be seated.

Posted by: this election counts | May 5, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Howard Dean said this weekend that the FL & MI delegates would be seated.

Posted by: this election counts | May 5, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Lance D -
You’d be right about Obama’s tactics not working, in fact about everyone who’s made the same comment about Obama’s approach would be dead on correct, were it not for one teensy little detail…
He’s winning.

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Did you see Senator Clinton on O’Reilley? She was poised. Her political experience as senator and first lady far exceeds Senator Obama. McCain is the better candidate of all as far as the national interest goes. Just ask any conservative…John McCain is no Bush. That alone gets my vote!

Posted by: Dean Lerner | May 5, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

You know, when it comes to vote, all super delegates might change their previous commitment in the last second.
Politicians are politicians. They move in the direction of the air.

Posted by: boneheaded, chicago | May 5, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Why is Hillary still in the race? Oh yea to try and damage Barack enough so McCain will win and she can try again in 4 more years. Not gonna work.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 5, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Al -
I don’t get your Jay Z comment. What, they’re both African Americans? That’s what’s funny? A black president? That
s innately funny and silly to you somehow?
Gee, you’re a riot a minute, Al. What’s next in your routine, anti-semitism? Sexism?

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Larry writes:
“polls for Indiana?”
The moreso because of this “racism” blabla, the almighty polls may be worth nothing much: remember that Obama had a big LEAD in the polls — 10% — going into Pennsylvania, which he lost bigtime.
The integrity of the vote count, of course, is another matter … another reason for the Democrats to nominate John Edwards, the guy with the guts. And the brain. And the spouse with no baggage.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Actually, the superdelegates do count, they are added to the pledged delegates for the total delegate count.
The total number of delegates needed for the Democratic Nomination is 2,025. Obama needs any combination of pledged delegates and superdelegates numbering 273 to become the Nominee.
Every little bit helps!!
OBAMA ’08

Posted by: Cora | May 5, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

The Super Delegates who do NOT care who wins the general will vote for Obama.
Because right now Obama will not win the general.
But Obama does have more MONEY.
BUT NOT ENOUGH TO WIN THE GENERAL—- YOU CAN NOT BUY MY VOTE.
And Axelord/Axelrod and all of Obama’s aids are running around paying off Delegates as we speak…..
THEY ARE ALL RUSHING TO GET WHAT THEY CAN GET NOW…….
VOTE FOR OBAMA, AND HE WILL GIVE YOU MONEY…..REALLY !!
( there are MILLIONS of American Hating Extremist around the world giving Obama 200.00 ( then you can stay anonymous ) so he can Win……think about that )

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

The only “Hope” he has now is collecting more delegates from super delegates.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 5, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

“SurveyUSA just released its final pre-primary poll: Hillary Clinton is ahead by 12% in Indiana.”
Al – aren’t they the ones who predicted over 20 points up for Hillary in Pennsylvania?

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Dean,
You must have missed this report:
Ken Herman blogs for Cox News Service: “John McCain’s senior campaign staff and President Bush’s senior White House staff are so close that the McCain folks let the Bush folks know in advance whenever McCain is about to distance himself from the unpopular president, says a top McCain aide. . . .
“‘We have an excellent relationship with the White House,’ Black told reporters at a Friday lunch. ‘The senior staffs talk literally every day, sometimes more than once a day.’
McCain is more of the same as Bush.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 5, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

He’s winning.
–Fontapa
You may be right, but I am sure the race would have been over by now if he has used the same forceful and negative attacks she is using.
But I am happy to see that he just came back strong against her last ad in IN and NC.

Posted by: Lance D. | May 5, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

At the beginning of the primary season, the real Hillary was unknown, as was the real Obama. Hillary existed in most peoples minds as an uncertain image from the ’90s. That image was the residue of the massive assault by the press on the Clintons. At the beginning of the primaries Hillary was still seen as a mere reflection, or extension, of Bill. The image of Obama at the beginning of the primaries was based entirely on his convention speech in 2004, and on rumors that he opposed the Iraq war early on.
Over the past several months Hillary has built a real image of herself, primarily as a fighter for the middle class; and moderate voters like what they see. Even moderate Republicans like what they see. Hillary’s battles against the far left and a hostile press have proven her mettle to what Nixon used to call the “silent majority.” The more people see of Hillary, and the more battles she fights, the more people like her.
Obama was an unknown, and in some ways is still an unknown. His early victories came more from anti-Hillary votes that votes for him. As people come to know Obama they see how narrow is his appeal to voters. His promises of bridging the gap between Democrats and Republicans, of creating a new politics, of being the post-racial candidate, are now falling flat with voters as he is seen more and more as a creature of the far left — another McGovern.
The superdelegates are now reassessing who can take the fight into the fall, and who can be the most effective for America. The doubts about Obama are mounting.

Posted by: David H | May 5, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

As a lifelong Democrat, I have never seen more lying by a politician and her supporters than Hillary Clinton’s. How pathetic you must be to have to come on the boards and lie to try and help your candidate. I will never vote for Clinton in any election again. Solely due to her and her supporters tactics. They are repulsive.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 5, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

David H -
If superdelegates doubts are mounting, then how do you explain how they’re routinely outnumbering her in support for Obama, and how frequently hers have switched to his side?
Same old tired message… “The fix is in, it’s curtains for Obama, it’s only a matter of time…” Blah Blah Blah.
Fact in, the dude is winning, and has been for some time.

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I cant remember reading anything positive on Obama
on this Channel…. Always trying to undermine this candidate… its soooo biased…..

Posted by: arielle | May 5, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Clinton could win 3 superdelegates to every one that Obama wins and he will likely still lock up the nomination. Assuming a split of pledged delegates in the remaining contests, Obama would need only about 64 of the remaining 264 delegates to reach 2024. Not that she is anywhere close to even matching him in superdelegate pick ups, let alone outpacing him 3 to 1.

Posted by: Ken | May 5, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Catch up ABC, he got 4 today alone according to Huffington Post. Here is one of them.
Kalyn Free, an at-large member of the Democratic National Committee, today announced that she supports Illinois Senator Barack Obama for the party’s presidential nomination. As a DNC member, Free will serve as a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention. Free is also founder and President of INDN’s List, an organization dedicated to recruiting and training American Indian candidates.

Posted by: Becky | May 5, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

This race is over but I am left to wonder if HRC’s campaign has done enough to damage the nominee. If this turns out to be the case and Obama does not win the general election, I will make it my lifes mission to ensure that HRC doesn’t get a chance either. Obama has run his campaign with integrity while it would have been far more expedient to trash HRC with her own baggage. People like to question Obama’s associations over the years but it is so interesting how many of HRC’s have actually gone to prison. She is a pathological liar and a cheat. Just like Bill.

Posted by: Lou - Londonderry, NH | May 5, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

TO Progressive Democrat:
========================
Nobody is perfect.But if you want a
democrat to win in november,the only real choice is Hillary.
You know my brothers will not going
to vote for Obama in november.

Posted by: NIcholas | May 5, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Here is another 2 for him today:
Two MD supers for Obama
PolitickerMD reports that State Democratic Party Chairman Michael Cryor and Vice Chairwoman Lauren Dugas Glover will endorse Illinois Senator Barack Obama this afternoon.
ABC really!!! Shame on you.

Posted by: Becky | May 5, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

There is a permanent drip to these super delegates.
It was rigged beforehand. I stated this several times already. Its impossible for anyone who is truely ‘undecided’ to honestly think that Obama is the better bet right now.
So he had all these super delegates before he started tanking his campaign.
The point is that the super delegates cannot just sit there and ignore what is happening. If they are going to support Obama no matter what, then why BOTHER go thru all this.
Obama and Clintons campaigns are funded by the PEOPLE . People who are paying $4 for gas at the pump. People who are struggling.
If this just turns out to be an exersise in HYPE to boost democratic registration, then I am not voting democratic in the fall.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 5, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

I thought I would also mention that Hillary now is saying she is standing beside McCain on keeping our soldiers in Iraq long term. Catch up ABC, losing ground today.

Posted by: Becky | May 5, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

“I wouldn’t make any blanket commitments,” the Illinois senator told ABC’s “Good Morning America” today regarding the Unions. Barack Obama 5-5-08
That because he does not commit to anything. Like he didn’t think about leaving a church with a radical hate white philosophy–black power theology for some 20 years until he was forced to jump ship. Today he stated he is sure he will win tomorrow ….probably so because he has the blacks 90% voting for him because they know he truly believes in the Trinity Church teachings which Rev. Wright said in his speech to the Press Club —he had to say he denounces to get the white people to vote for him. What Rev. Wright was telling all black people to hold tight, keep the faith, he does not mean what he says, he has to say this to get elected. If enough white people believe the black vote we will have the power.

Posted by: Anne | May 5, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

The lack of understanding some people show for the process amazes me sometimes.
The facts are quite clear. Hillary Clinton leads in the popular vote – I know that you Kool–aid drinkers don’t want to count Florida and Michigan – maybe you all had the same Marxist professors Obama sought out in college – but you see, in America, we count all the votes – The votes in those 2 states were certified by their respective Sec. of States. The DNC has no power over them – they can simply deny the seating of those delegates at the convention – until the credentials committee rules on their status. – it’s just that simple – and I know you will whine and complain that the candidates didn’t campaign in FL or that Obama’s name was not on the ballot in MI – The truth is Obama did campaign in FL, running cable TV ads for weeks prior to the election in violation of the agreement he had with the other candidates and the DNC – as for MI, he took his name off the ballot there by his own accord, in order to curry favor in Iowa and with the explicit hope of invalidating results that he knew would favor Clinton – he then conspired with his supporters in the MI legislature to thwart any effort to allow for a revote there – a somewhat callous and audacious political calculation for such an uplifting, inspiring leader – and one that will fortunately come back to haunt him.
Facts can be terrible things but they are what they are – and after 2.5 million people vote in Puerto Rico, Clinton’s popular vote lead will be undeniable and insurmountable and trust me – the Democratic party will not do to Hillary Clinton what was done to Al Gore 8 years ago. Super-delegates will not overturn the will of the people – it’s just that simple – I could go on but I see by the old clock on the wall it’s time for your next dose of Kool-Aid.

Posted by: oldspice | May 5, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

More superdelegates are standing up because they are afraid of repercussions .. if you know what I mean.. We cannot anger the black community. That’s the plain truth. At this point I don’t care if Obama gets the nomination. I’m not gonna vote for him. Either Hillary or McCain.. And numerous polls have shown that the majority of Hillary supporters will NOT vote for NObama either.. so I have only thing to say to all those superdelegates: don’t make a boneheaded decision.. lol

Posted by: Lookup | May 5, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

No!!!!!!!!, Obama has picked 4 supers today, and that does not include 3 addons from illinos

Posted by: Nob | May 5, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

This title is MISLEADING.
Why can’t you ask if Hillary’s superdelagets are going for her fast enough?

Posted by: voter | May 5, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

If Obama gets the nomination and does not win, as many beleive, in November, guess who the angry Obamabots will be blaming? Hillary… Just like their leader, they always have to blame someone for something…

Posted by: Lookup | May 5, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Obama is truly the Jackie Robinson of politics. Breaking a barrier while being a class guy even though, the Republicans will try and spike him and his own Democratic teammates–the Clintons–refuse to accept him.

Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 5, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

How many of Hillary’s superdelegates were “add-ons”?

Posted by: Rob, Indianapolis | May 5, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

McCAIN loves Obama…..
McCAIN knows if Obama gets the nomination he”ll have easy ride to
white house.

Posted by: NIcholas | May 5, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Teleprompters for McCain? Get serious!
Have we forgotten how badly Barack Obama got hammered in the last debate?
Have we forgotten that Barack Obama is now afraid to ever debate Hillary Clinton?
Perhaps we should just let the chickens roost for a while.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Because of all you Obamabots — we will NEVER get a Democrat in the White House.

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Another “superdelegate” for NObama… TOM HANKS! ABC posted a clip of him on the opening page… Smashing! Just ONE day before the primaries.. Very very interesting.. How come ABC did not mention the letter that Dr Maya Angelou wrote to Hillary?!?!?

Posted by: Lookup | May 5, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

If you want a Democrat to win in November all you have to do is wait till Nov. If you want the new president to be a change from Bush, you need Obama.
Clinton will practice the old kind of international politics with confrontation, bluster and no negotiation. Haliburton will still be a heavy contributor to the new president. When Obama says change he means the return of sanity to the White House and negotiation where possible and armed intervention where necessary (Afghanistan).
This year we do not have to settle for dirty politics as usual and another low performing president. We can have real leadership with Obama.

Posted by: Ron M | May 5, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Doug Wilder must be posting under the name “Democrats United.”
The only thing missing was a call for rioting in the streets.
By the way, I was a Democrat for over 34 years.
Just like many of the majority who refuse to vote for a far-left, radical liberal of any color, I am now an independent.
After August, the Democrat party may be so small that the candidate who wins won’t be of any consequence.
That’s the change that you can believe in.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Oscar Meyer writes:
“Obama is truly the Jackie Robinson of politics.”
Not EVEN: in baseball, you can’t make it to the majors just by screwing with the other players’ paperwork.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Who is more electable in the General against MC CAIN ?
This is not a matter of beating Hillary— it is a matter of BEATING MC CAIN !
Obama will go down.
Look at Kerry.
Look at Gore ( I miss him )
Look at Dukakis……
Now take a good look at Obama NOW…..
He looks just like the past Democratic Noms…. We Will LOSE if Obama WINS….

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

To LOOKUP:
Because Angelou’s endorsement of Clinton is old news. That has already been reported on. The hanks endorsement just came in. That is not being biased, that is reporting news as it happens!!!

Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 5, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

This protracted race is bad, bad, bad for Democrats. The supporters of the losing candidate will be cranky and vindictive–it is basic social psychology in cognitive dissonance–you love your choice more and derogate the other choice, especially if the initial differences are quite small.
I think all superdelegates should make their choice known by June 5, and we should be done with it. The democrats need time to heal and react against the republicans or they are so-o-o-o screwed in November. The loser supporters will be less likely to vote for the winning democratic candidate and the independents will think democrats are a bunch of whiners.

Posted by: Dan the Democrat | May 5, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Lookup 4:19:40,
Good comment.
Maybe McCain would order them to go to their rooms and blame themselves.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 5, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Reality check:
If Obama gets the nomination we gonna
have 4 more years of Republicans.
I wonder if the democrats will
ever learn their mistakes.
No utra left wing liberal ever won the
white house.

Posted by: NIcholas | May 5, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

TO Nicholas: If democrats lose the general because Obama is the nominee, it will not be because of Obama’s supporters. It will be because Hillary’s supporters did not vote for him. You will have only yourselves to thank if he (a democrat) loses.

Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 5, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

And your point Jake? Where is all this support for Hillary?
I have seen spin before, but it used to come from the Campaigns, not the media.
Obama is still gaining in supers and has took the lead from the members of congress.
ABC is putting on the full court press for Hillary.

Posted by: Thinking | May 5, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Can’t you just hear it?
If Barack Osama was to make it to the White House and the economy completely tanked:
“The economic policies that were in place before I got here are to blame.
Not me!
And, then there was the Clintons.
But, you just have to believe in this change!
We shall have to have new taxes, many more new taxes.
And, we can then add more taxes.
And, more taxes.
And, now, Reverend Wright, would you please pray for us?”

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Becky is this true she will leave the troops ??????If it is she needs her hear examined>>>>>>>

Posted by: older wh lady | May 5, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Anyone posting here about boycotting the Dems if their candidate doesn’t get the nomination needs to read the next post up, on the Iraq war vet suicide issue.
I told my wife a long while back that I wasn’t going to be partisan, because Obama, Clinton, and McCain were all good choices for the presidency. When McCain continued to endorse an endless war in Iraq, and then endorse the criminal tax breaks for the wealthy, and many other Bush issues, I began to break my promise to her.
I got so intense, I began to hate Hillary, because I was so concerned that she’d lose to McCain. This article above reminds me that while my convictions in supporting Obama still stand, there was a higher purpose to the passion behind this debate.
That higher purpose still stands. In short, I don’t care if Barney Fife is our nominee. We MUST NOT LET THE REPUBLICANS CONTINUE THIS WAR!
If you’re a primary voter, vote Obama, but when the nomination is done, either way it turns out, you must do the right thing. You must put a Dem in the White House and end this monstrosity.

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

@Dean Lerner,
I agree with you.
O’Reilly asked her very tough questions but she passed the test.
O’Reilly said he knows she’s done lots of good things in NY.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 5, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

God Bless America if this no Experience bumblehead Obama wins …..
Our economy will Tank.
Our Foreign Affairs will Tank.
Our Country WILL TANK.
Look at Chicago. What Has Obama REALLY done while he was there…. other than to vote Present.
This guy was a STATE Senator, then only became the U.S. Senator for 1 year.
What are we doing electing this NOVICE to the MOST POWERFUL POSITION in the WORLD.
HAMAS WILL BE DANCING IN THE STREET….
AFRICA WILL HAVE THEIR HAND OUT…..
CHINA WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD……
And Obama will be sitting pretty with Millions in the Bank ( International bank of course— as he will bring U.S. down…..)

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Some of the logic on these forums is simply amazing. For instance, If Hillary loses the nomination and runs as an independent, she’ll win the election. How? If half the democrats vote the democratic nominee as well as many unafilliated and independents? The other half of the democratic party votes the independent candidate, Hillary. That leaves the entire GOP voting for McCain. Using very loose math that looks like:
25% Obama
25% Clinton
50% McCain
Pretty sure that’s not a victory. And all this nonsense about who can win the general election. Obama has pulled punches and shown respect to a member of his fellow party. For that, he is called weak. Don’t we have a word for that? Friendly fire? He says he will not be so kind to McCain if McCain wants to dance. Both McCain and Hillary have loads of baggage. Much more than a single man, Jeremiah Wright. Obama doesn’t feel the need to attack a teammate. Come general election, Hillary will be blasted constantly. There are so many things the GOP can bring out. All they have on Obama is Rev. Wright. Truthfully, I won’t be too upset if Clinton steals the nomination because then the GOP will bring all this to light making her look foolish as well as all her followers who refused to admit she has faults and stole the election.
I’m sorry, I meant to say any act of aggression toward the GOP would be met with an “Obliteration” of the democratic candidate. I figure I would put it in words you could understand.

Posted by: Independent | May 5, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

If you want to claim that one Dem or the other is a better candidate, fine, but if you go so far as saying that either would be a worse choice than McCain for President, you need to have your moral compass recalibrated.
Both candidates agree:
No to the Iraq War
No to tax breaks for the wealthy
No to dependency on foreigh oil
No to the Bush war on our civil rights
Can you honestly say you’d rather have four more years of Bush than either of these Democrats in office? Seriously?

Posted by: fontapa | May 5, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Obama wins….
Asian will be happy…. (the whole country of China)
Africans Will be happy ….. ( the whole Country of Africa)
Whites will be Happy…. ( the whole country of Russia )
Everyone around the world will be Happy cause OBAMA is going to Sell-Out Our Country………
He is a BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL……..
He wants to save the world……
He will Sell U.S. OUT.

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Bill Oreilly,Rush and Hannity are from the same political family: the FoxNews republicans. When Karl Rove told Oreilly to ask a real question to Hill the Bosnian General, he said that is a very intelligent question and he will not ask it. Wake-up democrats the political game is clear from the republicans side. God save America from Oreilly, Hannety, Rush, FoxNews and McCain. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | May 5, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

TO: DemocratsUnited.
====================
You know as well as i do,”democrat”
it doesn’t mean you belong to a solid political party.Democrats are a group
of different individuals under one
umbrella.
There are:Reagan democrats,right wing
democrats,middle democrats,left wing
democrats,progessive democrats,
conservative democrats etc.
If we have a nominee who,s ideology or
the color doesn’t represent the majority of the so-called democratic party,them the group splits in different
directions.
That’s exactly what’s going on with
Obama.He cannot unite the party.
….And that’s the true.
They don’t tell you…i just did.

Posted by: NIcholas | May 5, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Independent writes:
“All they have on Obama is Rev. Wright.”
Don’t count on THAT. Unless the Weatherman leadership really WERE running interference FOR the Republicans — not impossible by any means — there’s always Ayers and Dohrn (and now Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda), and however many mobsters turn out to be on Obama’s plate when Rezko gets done.
AND whatever-all still hasn’t become known about Obama’s Columbia days, old girlfriends, church associates and the like.
Obama’s “post-partisan” bleating, which seems to have so disarmed McCain, probably won’t go far with whoever the REAL Republcian nominee turns out to be.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Well, Independent,
Part of what you write is accurate, but the rest leaves out quite a bit.
Hillary Clinton has plenty of negatives as do any politicians who have been part of the process for any amount of time.
So does John McCain.
But, negatives are not a characteristic peculiar to Obama. Obama negatives are a plethora waiting for the RNC.
A simple Google of Obama produces pages and pages of negatives associated with the man, his past, and his ultra-liberal agenda.
And, it’s not a question of whether Hillary Clinton will run as an independent. She will not.
However, the candidate Obama, his campaign, his positions, and his supporters have produced conditions that will result in mass defection from the Democrat party.
I know, because I was a Democrat for over 34 years–until now.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Hillary Clinton is an ELITIST. She has become like The Pied Piper of Hamelin…where uneducated voters follower her without question…not realizing that she’s driving them towards the abyss.
Oh, by the way…Rev. Wright and his body guards are on Hillary’s payroll. Months ago, Hillary was looking for a few hired guns and she found them. Two weeks ago, witnesses shared that James Carville was seen passing an envelope filled with $100 bills to Rev. Wright. The meeting was held in a local diner a couple of days before Rev. Wright was to meet with Bill Moyer.
Now that the hired guns of yesterday have done her dirty work. Obama looks pretty bad, voters are loosing trust, and Hillary’s coming out smelling like roses.

Posted by: JustMyObservation | May 5, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Nat Turner writes:
“Let a real man handle this country like it needs to be handled.”
Ooo! Macho, huh? How about John Edwards, who played football in high school.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

len:
What “thug tactics” on this list are you referring to?
While I believe that the Hillabeans supporters and repugnants on this list have been far more rude and crude than Obama supporters, there are few posts that I would call “thuggish.”
Either you are oversensitive or delusional. Of course, I don’t recall seeing your name on these boards often, if at all, so perhaps you are just throwing that out there to see if it’ll stick. The republican/bush mantra of, if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | May 5, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

There is difference between perseverance and stubbornness. Clinton is just Stubborn.

Posted by: voter | May 5, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

If you think “Wright” is all that “they” have on Obama, you better brace yourself…the “children under the stairs” will soon begin to see the light of day, and the squeeky-clean imge of your candidate will soon be forever tarnsihed..don’t forget all the shenanigans and behind-closed-door dealings that he’s done, or were you thinking he was above that? after all he is a poitician from Chicago, isn’t that one of his “stakes to claim”? What a joke, “same ol’ politics”, “same ‘ol business as usual”!!…..

Posted by: Jay | May 5, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Speaking of “behind-closed door” deals and “back-room” antics…keep an eye and ear out on the upcoming news on the Teamsters endorsement of the candidate…this only the beginning!

Posted by: Jay | May 5, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Did you hear Hillary in Indiana yesterday saying she’ll work as hard as anyone for Barack Obama WHEN he’s the NOMINEE for the DNC?
***************************************
This is BS and more Pandering by Hillary. You know as well as I do she has no intentions of Supporting Obama now or in the future. She is in it to deystroy him not support him.
She bets that she can overturn the will of the people, and because of the Iraq War that we democrates will dutifuly follow along and support this this spinless Candidate.
She has not the moral authority, or courage to lead this nation.
She is a wimp, and spineless Panderer

Posted by: Thinking | May 5, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Obama Says Teamsters Need Less Oversight
By Brody Mullins and Kris Maher
Sen. Barack Obama won the endorsement of the Teamsters earlier this year after privately telling the union he supported ending the strict federal oversight imposed to root out corruption, according to officials from the union and the Obama campaign.
It’s an unusual stance for a presidential candidate. Policy makers have largely treated monitoring of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters as a legal matter left to the Justice Department since an independent review board was set up in 1992 to eliminate mob influence in the union.
…how does that slogan go again?..oh yeah….”YES WE CAN…CONTINUE THE SAME BUSINESS AS USUAL POLICIES AND PRACTICES OF WASHINGTON D.C….YES WE CAN”..what a joke!

Posted by: jay | May 5, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Nat Turner writes:
“Still talking about Rev Wright, huh?”
Everybody’s going to be talking about Reverend Wright for a LONG time.
Obamabot Chuck Todd, on Hardball today, reminded viewers of Michelle Obama’s claim early in the campaign that Scary Barry intends to make only one run for the Democratic nomination (maybe that means he’ll try the Republicans, next time?).
How full of himself can this guy be — less than one term in the state Senate, less than one term in the U.S. Senate. In both elections, Obama’s opponents got knocked off the ballot by his associates. He’s KNOWN to be closely associated with mobsters, the Weathermen, has unsavory connections with Exelon.
WHY would DEMOCRATIC delegates endorse such a person, if NOT for the money he’s spreading around? He has split the Democratic party, accomplished nothing special in either of his elective offices, etc.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

axelrod probally have several more delagates stashed back, ready to spring them out when the bad news hit. Most likely after tuesday vote.
It makes you wonder how much these people sold their souls for.

Posted by: toby | May 5, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Jay: you must be a news man. You only told the first half of the story. They also said they are still backing him and that that was not the only reason they like him.

Posted by: Becky | May 5, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Time for Nat to learn about his idol.
Obama Gong Show:
1.) “Selma Got Me Born”
Selma, what is that about? Barack Obama was born in 1961. As the events in Selma occurred in 1965, they had no effect on his parents choice to conceive or his birth.
GONG!!!!
Maybe Nat was in Selma.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

I’m voting against Sen. Durbin in my home state of IL next time he’s up for reelection. I realize he does owe Obama some loyalty for being from IL, but since I can’t vote against superdelegates other than those from IL, I guess that’s the only way to make my opinion heard. I still hope the best person wins, and that is HIllary Clinton. Obama doesn’t have enough backbone for the job yet.

Posted by: dwc | May 5, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

wasn’t it four more delegates for Obama today. I might be wrong… but I think he gained four.
hillary is going to not only leave the party in shambles…leave the general less stable for us …but she will be viewed very harshly…
she didn’t have a very high ceiling in New York even…I do not know how she expects to get back in the senate enxt run.
she has destroyed her numbers with this primary.

Posted by: dl | May 5, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

More learning for Nat:
Obama Gong Show:
2.) Obama says his father Was a goat herder. Obama’s father was from Kenya and may have grown up around a few goats, but he left there long before he became a goat herder. Such a correlation could also put an Obama at Bethelehem. Obama, Sr., was, in fact, a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
Maybe Nat was in Kenya.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

dwc
Obama doesn’t have enough backbone?
what are you talking about…oh your “tough” candidate who can’t even answer a single question during the entire primary about a single one of the pages of controversies that she has…
as ferocious as everyone has made her out to be …it’s all a lot of hype.
there was one candidate who handled everything thrown at him during this primary…and he wasn’t a woman…and he wasn’t a dangerous hawk…who has now given the terrorists their best recruiting tool with a stupid comment on obliterating Iran.

Posted by: dl | May 5, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

toby writes:
“axelrod probally have several more delagates stashed back, ready to spring them out when the bad news hit. Most likely after tuesday vote.
It makes you wonder how much these people sold their souls for.”
Well, a couple of THESE guys are Chicago big-wigs, not exactly surprise support for protege Scary Barry.
Quite a few of the superdels, it appears, sold their souls long ago, and are just selling votes now.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Time to learn more, Nat:
Obama Gong Show:
3.) Barack Obama says his family has strong ties to African freedom. Depends on how you look at it, but not quite. Obama’s cousin, Raila Odinga, is credited with creating widespread violence in attempts to overturn a legitimate Kenyan election in 2007.
GONG!!!
Maybe Nat will go to Kenya.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

H “obliterate” Clinton is just as insane as the Iranian madman.

Posted by: anon | May 5, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

More learning time for Nat:
Obama Gong Show:
4.) Barack Obama said his grandmother as always been a Christian. Well, that could depend on which grandmother and how you define “Christian”. One of Obama’s grandmothers recites daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own account. Also, we should probably mention, this grandmother was one of 14 wives to 1 man.
GONG!!!!
Maybe Nat can define Christian.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

The super delegates who pledged for Obama can certainly do so.
But under the circumstances, the timing of these announcements looks suspect.
I’m not sure it does anything to change the momentum that Hillary Clinton has, that Obama does not.
But, it does show a preference and it will truly be interesting to see how the S/D’s justify staying with the weaker of the two candidates.
I think they’re afraid, flat out.

Posted by: sherr | May 5, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

WAKE UP DEMOCRATS!! Divide and conqueror. Sound familiar? That is what the republicans are doing to the democrats right now. Its time the democrats clean up this campaign and unite as one. Obama is great as the first American black to have a real chance at becoming president. Hillary Clinton is a great woman candidate to become the first American woman president. It is time that both campaigns join together and run as one major force. This is what the republican fear the most. They both tangled and rumbled in a well contested fight. Both have something to make them proud. The same thing happened to Kennedy and Johnson in 1960. It happened to Reagan and Bush (Sr.) in 1980. Let’s learn from the past and become one. After these two states there are only a handful on states left and none of them will change the results of the delegate count. Obama/Clinton 2008. Sounds good to me. If Hillary is serious about helping her party and the nation, then just as LBJ and BUSH (Sr.), she can do that as Vice-president. If all she really wants is a national health care program, I am sure that Obama will let her try and get one as Vice President. Somebody wins and somebody loses. Let’s not make the mistake and let American lose as well by electing John McCain. IT’S TIME TO UNITE AS ONE!!

Posted by: Al | May 5, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Jayhawk writes:
“Barack Obama said his grandmother as always been a Christian”
Yes, the “typical white person” who, with her husband, raised Scary Barry.
If granny was a “Christian”, it’s peculiar (and of course it IS peculiar) that Obama only became a “Christian” late in life, under the guidance of Reverend Wright — since the religious education of children is one of the tenets of Chrisitanity. As it is, of course, of Islam.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Religious lessons for Gnat:
Obama Gong Show:
6.) Barack Obama claims to be a Christian who never practiced Islam. Anyone attending a school where religion is practiced daily as curriculum probably practices that religion, at least temporarily. But, what if the same person was registered as a Muslim and kept that faith, until his wife made him convert, so he could run for political office?
GONG!!!!!
Time for evening prayers, Gnat.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

There’s not a thing presidential about
HRC – she’s a mannerless, tiresome boor.

Posted by: anon | May 5, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

All the Obama robots always said superdelegates shouldn’t be figured into the race. Since many of the supers have gone over to Obama the Obama robots are gleeful. They like the supers. OH…only if they support Obama. That’s like Florida and Michigan votes. If those votes had gone to Obama and they weren’t going to be counted they these same Obama supporters would be rioting in the streets. Such a fair race isn’t it? It’s BS. The press wants to elect Obama. Media wants Obama. The people want Clinton. The blacks and college students (the majority) want Obama. What a mess. I pray Michelle Obama will never be in the White House. This family hates white people. The blacks are voting blindly for Obama for his color. He has no record except a liberal present one to run on, so it has to be his color. What a way to elect a President. Intelligent thinking?

Posted by: carolyn | May 5, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Yeah! Some of you are “seeing” through the scams and hype. The “convenient” delegates that seem to keep jumping on board, from “no where” to support the “great one” is very much suspect. I believe it has been pointed out that the Obama “campaign” had stock piled delegates. The support had already been pledged but the campaign would chose when to reveal those names… therefore making it appear like these delegates came on board just as Hillary won or made advancements. Thus trying to manipulate and influence the vote of the “gullible” educated masses. Thankfully, many people are catching on. If it sounds too good to be true… it’s probably political!

Posted by: Annie | May 5, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

No difference between HRC and McCain.
Both are wacky loose cannons.

Posted by: anon | May 5, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Annie writes:
“Thus trying to manipulate and influence the vote of the “gullible” educated masses. Thankfully, many people are catching on.”
Hopefully some of the people catching on will go into the lower levels of the Democratic Party. Most of the county committees are full of people for whom “politics” is a social substitute for going to church, and whose political work consists mostly of serving as groupies to elected officials.
Many local committee members are appointed, instead of elected, though the law provides for election.
If county committees were active, we’d have a better class of superdelegates. As it is, the “party” in most places is nothing much, unless it’s time for the masses to vote.

Posted by: Belle Starr | May 5, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Jayhawk:
Thou are’t well informed! Amazing… there ARE people who have the ability to think for them self and actually research the candidates. However… I have noticed that you can post the truth about the “perfect one” and it gets totally ignored. It goes to prove that those who support him don’t care WHAT he stands for. From his brother and cousin in Africa… from saying if it came down to it he would go with Islam… from the repeated references to “typical white people”… to voting to keeping it legal to allow living babies to die… to back stabbing his colleagues to get his position… duel citizenship here and Africa… terrorist associations… to him and his wife like the majority of Americans… yep… most of us can afford over $10,000 a year in dance and piano lessons for our kids… and so forth! DUH! I WISH I had that kind of extra money. I would buy gas, pay bills and get groceries! Good thing he isn’t related to Pinocchio!!!!

Posted by: Annie | May 5, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Foreign affairs lesson for Gnat:
Obama Gong Show:
7.) Because I lived in Indonesia, I have greater foreign experience and would be stronger on foreign affairs.
Barack Obama lived in Indonesia from when he was 6 until he was 10. At the time, Obama couldn’t even speak the language. Obama has also traveled to a few African and Middle Eastern countries but has no experience with the most of our closest allies.
GONG!!!!!
Maybe Gnat has lived in Indonesia, too.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 5, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Belle Star writes:
Most of the county committees are full of people for whom “politics” is a social substitute for going to church, and whose political work consists mostly of serving as groupies to elected officials.
Belle… you post well. He is very scary. His brother and cousin scare the crap out of me and should concern everyone in this country… especially Christian church goers. Perhaps his followers don’t care if “Christian” people, in Kenya are being burned ALIVE… women and children… burned ALIVE. Who cares, right? After all… Christians are infidel. We are throwing away everything our ancestors fought and died for… our country, our freedom, our choice to worship as we please, our rights, our future… all for the promise of change. Well… it looks like change IS coming! Maybe I should go into the asbestos suit business?

Posted by: Annie | May 5, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

JustMyObservation posts: oh, by the way…Rev. Wright and his body guards are on Hillary’s payroll.
OMG!!! This convinces me that people are not paying any attention to what is going on. Wright would NEVER aid Clinton! This would be against everything he has stated and stood for!!!
SOURCE PLEASE!!!

Posted by: Annie | May 5, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

“Annie”
are you trying to imply that Senator Obama can’t invest money into his children and their extra curricular activities? Whoa! The clintons earned over one hundred and nine million dollars!!!! That is after their White house years, I wonder what kind of priviliges their daugher had? Look, the writing is on the wall people! I will be glad when this is all over so Obama can beat McCain and begin his work in the White House!!!

Posted by: Angel | May 5, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

To Nat some rat jokes
to respond to your slogans :
” The W…House will turn Gray
if OB makes his way
and that for many Dems
will be Doomsday
unless many of them
decide it to be otherwise
go and cast a Wise vote
make it heard “no to the bad joke”.
No anger, just Will to say no to Mister Money candidate. Sorry I don’t think much of his money supporters.

Posted by: jane | May 6, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

I’m just trying to get my head around the numbers you’ve quoted here, Jake.
If you factor in the delegates picked up today, then the margin since April 22 and April 28 is exactly the same. So Obama’s momentum is in fact the same as it was last week. And could it be that the delegates who wanted to declare themselves early have already done so (with Obama getting the lion’s share), and we’re now left with those who will declare themselves later (as in tomorrow or even after all the contests are finished)?
And besides, Obama is still grabbing twice as many delegates as Hillary, so the point of your piece is what exactly? That Obama is still on track to win the nomination? Which would have been a more honest headline.

Posted by: Mark O | May 6, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Angel posted: “Annie” are you trying to imply that Senator Obama can’t invest money into his children and their extra curricular activities?
Angel… thank you for proving my point!

Posted by: Annie | May 6, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

For those who don’t get the Jay Z comment, well, that just goes to show how little you know about Obama.
For those who say if Hillary gets the nomination you’ll vote for Obama on a third party ticket, well, that just goes to show how little you know about our political system.
For those who say that Obama is soon to have 1.5 million internet donors and that he can win the general election without blue collar/women/moderate dem votes, well, that just goes to show how little you know.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 6, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Nick at Nite,
Why would you vote for Clinton over McCain but then vote McCain over Obama?
In other words, if Clinton and Obama espouse the same ideas (votes, which are recorded), why would you vote for McCain who doesn’t have the same ideas (same votes)?

Posted by: Roofin Reality | May 6, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Lois, nice post, but I think (opinion only) that you’re wrong.
I think not only will African Americans stay at home, I think the new voters inspired by Obama will stay at home as well. For Dems in tight races in their Congressional districts, they can’t afford to have those voters stay home. So, in a BIG way, the DNC NEEDS Obama to be on the ticket to keep those voters (to keep their majority in both the house and senate).
By the way, didn’t U see two days ago that a Dem in Louisiana was being hit with “association to Obama” vis-a-vis Rev. Wright? Guess what? He won his race in a district that had been in Reps hands since 1974. So, the DNC knows they need Obama to keep them in power.

Posted by: Roofin Reality | May 6, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Oldspice, nice post, but I disagree.
I think that if each vote in the caucus states, like Iowa for example, had the actual votes counted vs. getting just the caucus numbers, the popular vote would be even greater than what it is today for Senator Obama. AND, Senator Clinton would be a lot closer in the delegate count.
By the way for all of my friends who want to count Michigan and Florida, I hope you don’t have children for if you do, they have to be spoiled brats. That is, you tell them that if they do something the consequences are…? Then they do it and you decide to NOT show them that you really meant it. Oh, ok. SO next time you tell them the consequences they behave? Right, I don’t think so. Come on people.
The votes weren’t going to count and EVERYBODY agreed that they wouldn’t count, including Senator Clinton. So, you can’t go back now and try to change it.

Posted by: Roofin Reality | May 6, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Belle, Clinton had a 30% lead after the Texas and Ohio primaries in early March. Three weeks before the Penn primary, Clinton was up 20%. In a matter of those three weeks, with a lot of money (that he got from A LOT of small donors) he was able to bring the deficit to 10% at election time. And pleaes remember, Senator Clinton had the endorsement of EVERY major democrat in the state. The Governor, the State Dem party, the mayors of Philly and Pittsburgh, etc. She had everything going for her and ended up winning impressively. Just not as big as one would think considering all she had going for her into the vote. Sorry, you’re wrong on this, please get your numbers right.

Posted by: Roofin Reality | May 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Carpenter,
As a post just before yours pointed out, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama are virtually identical in their views (votes up to the first of March). So, I don’t understand why you would say if Obama wins, he sells out America and the Dem party has gone to the radical ultra-left wing side. Clinton would give you the same thing. Well, 95% of the time.
McCain is going to be on the other end of the spectrum. So, I don’t understand.

Posted by: Roofin Reality | May 6, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Al from Al | May 5, 2008 6:10:50 PM
Well said, well said. Glad to see you see the BIG picture. I hope others like Carpenter, Jay, Jayhaw, Lou can see the BIG picture of getting your priorities lined up vs. voting for someone elses priorities because your candidate didn’t get to the top of the ticket.
Remember everyone, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama have almost identical voting records on legislation they both voted on over the last two years. So, what you get from one, you’re likely to get from the other with some obvious exceptions. But those exceptions may be against your ideal anyway, so stick wtih the Dems, either one. Both should be better than McCain for this next voting cycle.

Posted by: Roofin Reality | May 6, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

I am stunned at as to where you get your facts from. Barack Obama was once 100 superdelegates behind & now he has closed the gap to a mere 14. Remarkable & all you can report is he’s momentum has slowed.
Bias to say the least.
Obama ’08

Posted by: Obama backer | May 6, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

We are blaming Obama for not counting FL & MI because he said no and he will be held accountable by the voters of those states. He said we’ll have to talk about it. The guy is totally inexperienced and couldn’t get a bill passed if he tried. He misleads about being against the war and I even hear his pundants say he voted against the war – he was not in the senate at the time and continually votes to finance the war. He’s such a fraud. I will not vote for him under any circumstances – at least I know Hillary will come through like she always does. How in God’s name does anyone think he can win with his Wright & Ayrs controversy and his non existent experience? Maybe before 9/11 you can win without experience but after Bush’s disasters that is over. If Obama wins the nom you may as well congratulate the new Pres McCaine because if me – a staunch liberal is afraid of Obama you can bet the soccer moms will feel the same. My prayers are with Senator Clinton.

Posted by: Siobhan Ogilvie | May 6, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

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