Hope vs. Fear
Opinion by Matthew Dowd, ABC News Political Contributor
So, Barack Obama slowly moves towards locking up the nomination and begins to turn his sights on John McCain.
McCain has a big week with denunciation of conservative pastors, release of medical info, and his wife releasing last years taxes while he interviews first three prospects for vice president, and Hillary Clinton seems odd woman out struggling to understand her lost dream and putting her foot in her mouth related to a Kennedy assassination and claiming sexism is responsible for her troubles.
Hmmm, so where do we stand and what can we understand from all this?
As I have mentioned before, Clinton looks like to me that she is tired, slightly desperate and going through the stages of grief from a lost dream. She has been in denial, moving through anger and sadness, but seems stuck in bargaining, while still needing to get to acceptance.
Maybe someone can set up a 12 step program for politicians who have a hard time coming to terms with leaving the stage. First step as always is admitting you have a problem.
I feel for her as her arguments for staying in get more and more convoluted and rather bizarre. Using her logic, no losing candidate should ever drop out. Huckabee should have stayed in because you never know what could happen. Or Biden or Dodd or Edwards or Richardson should have stayed in the race because who knows what might happen?
My guess: acceptance in the stages of grief will come on or around June 3rd.
To me, in a exceptionally simplified explanation, the Democratic primary race boils down to hope vs. fear. All voters have a combination about wanting their leaders to understand and feel their fears (whether it be about the economy, or health care or the war, etc.) but ultimately the majority of voters want to vote their hopes.
If one was to factor out certain demographics in this race (African-Americans supporting Obama; older white women supporting Clinton), then one is left with the following data: voters under 30, voters with college education or higher, and more upper income Democrats by and large support Obama from state to state. This group has reason to be optimistic whether because of youth or opportunity or circumstance, and appeals to hope resonate very strongly.
Contrary to this, Clinton gets voters over 30 who make less than 50k and don’t have college education. And this is true from state to state. It’s not an Appalachian problem as some have suggested. It’s just that there are many more of these type of voters in those states than in other places. These voters are much less optimistic, have been through many struggles without much showing for it, and pure language of hope doesn’t connect well.
Obama is very good on the hope side of the equation, but many of these Clinton voters don’t get a sense he understands their fears. And Clinton has been very good on the fear side of the equation, but hasn’t connected on the hope part.
As the likely Democratic nominee, Obama is going to have to show he understands these voters fears and struggles, before they are open to a language of hope. This is absolutely imperative as he moves towards the general election against John McCain.
The best candidates in national politics ultimately show they feel and understand voters’ fears but then ask them to vote their hopes. Kennedy did this well, Reagan did this well, Clinton did this well, and even President Bush did this well at times.
Obama, if he is going to win, will have to learn from the primaries that while the conclusion is hope, he needs to walk with voters fears for a bit.
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Great piece. I have noticed all along Obama’s supporters are siding with him out of HOPE for the nation. But HRC’s supporters reject Obama out of FEAR. And unfortunately, HRC plugged into that fear early on and was far too eager to fan those flames.
It makes me wonder, when Obama is elected, will we have thousands of people hiding in caves on Inaugration Day, waiting for The End of Days?
Posted by: NO MORE DRAMA - VOTE OBAMA | May 27, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Obama is a fairy tale.. he presents himself as prince charming, but he’s really a grasping nasty vicious politico.
better choice is McCain… at least he’s done something for America
Posted by: trettine | May 27, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
No vote for BO. Most of the time he doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. It is almost embarrassing to listen from one day to the next. As far as I am concerned if it isn’t Hillary it will not be BO! No vote for BO!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 27, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
John McSame is saying Barack should meet him Iraq…
How about he get a head start,stay there and fight the war until Barack is President and end the war, brings our McSame and our troops home.. sounds good to me.
Obama 08
Posted by: Lawrence | May 27, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Interesting observations. It’s unfortunate that Hillary Clinton’s response to her apparent loss has been to blame other people and the media. In a contest, someone wins and someone loses. The main reason is that more people preferred the other candidate. It’s true that not every part of this contest has been “fair,” but it hasn’t been entirely fair for her opponent in every respect, either.
I think Obama understands the struggles of everyday people more than some people give him credit for. His work as a community organizer (and also as a civil rights lawyer) would have placed him closer to the people who were struggling and had little reason to hope than the other candidates’ experiences from what I know of them.
Posted by: mary | May 27, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
trettine:
What has McCain really done for America?
rockthebleachers:
What does Obama not have a clue about? FYI: everything is not an answer.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | May 27, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
trettine…I hope you’re ready for some tough times. It is obvious that McCain isn’t going to withdraw from this horendous war soon, he thinks the economy is doing fine , and doesn’t feel our troops deserve anything more than what they are getting( he plans to vote against the GI bill). I would rather vote for HOPE than continued desperation, as our country goes down the crap heap.
Posted by: formerhillary | May 27, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
mary…great observation. It seems HRC wants to comoplain and whin about everything in this election because she is loosing. What she needs to do is look within. It isn’t Obama who lost this campaign for her, but her own incompetant campaign. She had it all going for her, but blew it..HILLARY, ADMIT IT !!!
Posted by: telltruth | May 27, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
trettine, fighting for your country is service..so is working in the inner cities trying to help pull people out of poverty and hopelessness. McCain served..so did Obama. Patriotism is not only serving in the armed forces, or putting your hand on your chest during the playing of the national anthem..it is also volunteering your time to help others in the community..So for information Obama did something for America..So vote McCain! Who cares? We’ll just give him a rocking chair during the debates. McCain is all about war..I’m sick of it! That’s all he talks about..Iraq,Iraq, Iraq! what about domestic policy? What about the economy? Anyone who thinks that there is no connection between the billions of dollars spent each week to keep the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and the faltering economy..must be drinking some spiked koolaid. Jobs shipped overseas..thousands have lost their jobs, forclosures, gas is expensive and the economy is in tatters due to the failed Republican policies and people are contemplating voting for a man who said himself that he does not understand the economy. Wake up America! Vote Dems 08
Posted by: Earl | May 27, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
telltruth, you told the truth! well said.
Posted by: Earl | May 27, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
The fear is fear of Obama.
Why would anyone want a fairytale guy with only 143 days in the senate under his belt! A novice and A REV Wright disciple? NEVER!
Voting for him is like voting for the biggest pile of BS a lying politician can spew! Never Obama, never voting for Him. Anyone but Obama. ANYONE!!
He can never be shoved down my throat, do not trust him, do not believe he is even worth listening to.
Posted by: HP Boston | May 27, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Mary, well said! Thank you for your insight. Obama worked with the poor and downtrodden..yet there are those who try to paint him as an elitist..even his life growing up with his grandparents, fatherless. Obama is going to fight hard to make a difference for everyone..he will keep his word to the veterans and the people of America. This country will be better for it..If America can give George Bush 8 years why not Obama..look where George Bush has brought us..I know a lot of Republicans who are ashamed to even acknowledge that they are! Wake up America! vote Dems 08
Posted by: Earl | May 27, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
HP Boston:
He can never be shoved down my throat, do not trust him, do not believe he is even worth listening to.
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Again with the FEAR vote. What a shame.
Posted by: NO MORE DRAMA - VOTE OBAMA | May 27, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
OBAMA HAS RUN HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES!
What is the most important “right” granted to U.S. citizens? THE RIGHT TO VOTE!!!
A GROUP OF “POLITICIANS” (including Obama) ARE TAKING IT AWAY FROM MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!!!
WE NEED TO COUNT THE “PEOPLE’S VOTES” — NOT THE “DELEGATES”.
IF OUR REPRESENTATIVES DON’T LISTEN TO US — WE NEED TO VOTE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE DON’T NEED A RADICAL, ANTI-AMERICAN IN OUR HIGHEST OFFICE. OBAMA HAS TOLD TOO MANY LIES. He has too many anti-Jewish, Anti-white, Anti-American and terrorist friends and associates.
HILLARY 2008.
Posted by: REPLACE CONGRESS! | May 27, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Boston, Put down the spiked Koolaid and stop dreaming. McCain will continue the slippery slide of the economy..I suspect you are one those people who would look one in the face and say the economy is good and gas is 75 cents a gallon. Your guy McCain said that he does not understand the economy..he is all about war..you seem to like war..then vote McCain so we can have more of our wonderful young people in Iraq die or come back and join the 25,000 plus who are incapacitated and cannot enjoy life as we know it..do you have a heart? Do you care? Do you know that there were no Iraquis on those planes that slammed into the buildings in my home city..Do you know that all the commissions concluded that there was no link between Iraq and 911 but you are probably one of those who were fooled by Rush/Sean/the lady on the view and other Republican talking heads. Vote Dems 08
Posted by: Earl | May 27, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
WE NEED TO COUNT THE “PEOPLE’S VOTES” — NOT THE “DELEGATES”.
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But that is not the way the process works. Maybe it should be, but for now, it’s not.
A GROUP OF “POLITICIANS” (including Obama) ARE TAKING IT AWAY FROM MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!!!
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The DNC and NOT Obama imposed sanctions on FL and MI (where I live). Please get your facts straight.
Posted by: NO MORE DRAMA - VOTE OBAMA | May 27, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Mr Dowd
As a huge supporter of Obama.
I hope he reads this article.
Posted by: dl | May 27, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Spin as you like, Dowd, she has won the popular vote and the polls say his support is eroding in the mainstream. The DNC has committed a colossal blunder this time.
At least when Obama goes, Pelosi goes with him as well as the careers of a few political pundits. I’m a lifelong Democrat and I can live with McCain for four years better than I can live with the non-issue no-plan no-experience of Barack Obama.
Posted by: len | May 27, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Replacecongress, Are you wearing your hood? thats outdated now. Most white Americans are decent,honest people who really don’t care about skin color anymore..people want jobs, homes, comfort..not war,war,war. Obama is your next president! whether you like it or not..move to canada if you cannot deal with it. Its a God thing!Dems 08
Posted by: Earl | May 27, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
How can he equate Huckabee who was no where near McCain in votes to Hillary?
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
len, you are not a democrat..you are a republican posing as a dem. We are on to you Republicans who pose as democrats trying to mislead people..leave us democrats alone..one would have to be blind,deaf and dumb to vote for McCain if one claim to be a Democrat..McCain’s policies is 180 degrees different from Hillary or Obama..most people people who speak in similar tones to yours are looking for their hoods right now..but those days are gone..this is a new America with broadminded, thinking people. Vote Dems 08
Posted by: Earl | May 27, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
By ROBIN TONER,
Published: March 20, 1992
Former Senator Paul E. Tsongas of Massachusetts withdrew from the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination today, a decision that many in his party said all but insured the selection of Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas.
Mr. Tsongas announced his departure at a news conference in Boston, where he said his campaign did not have enough money to continue. His move leaves only former Gov. Edmund G. Brown Jr. of California to compete with Mr. Clinton in the remaining primaries and caucuses in 21 states.
Without adequate money to win, Mr. Tsongas said, “the alternative was to play the role of spoiler.” ‘That Is Not Worthy’
“That is not what I’m about,” he continued. “That is not worthy. I did not survive my ordeals in order to be the agent of the re-election of George Bush.”
–Why is Hillary playing bankrupted spoiler for Obama rather than being loyal to the Democratic Party like Tsongas was.
Posted by: BJ | May 27, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
I want to see in November when McCain wins due to the stupidity of the Democrats the look on all these politicians faces who are backing Obama.The democrats love to shoot themselves in the foot.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
len,
you are clearly looking at old polls.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Its hope vs. Fear but who started the fear, Obama did. His pastor spread the gospel of hate and lectured on America’s sins aggravated by Obama’s assoiciations with men who decriminalized treason and downgraded as crimes against honor, an adultery case. The fear is real and people who have fear are with common sense rather than the so called educated ones who prefer Obama and ignored Obama’s dubious resume and assoications as just silly issues when this country is at stake. Hope is false because Obama is a fraud courtesy of his pastor admission about him as just an ordinary politician who will speak the way the public wants to hear.
Posted by: darnobama | May 27, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
This is from Hillary’s campaign website:
Secondly, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and TED KENNEDY are laboring under the GROSS MISCONCEPTION that WE ARE AS DISLOYAL AND INSCRUPULOUS AS THEY ARE. Moreover, the DNC Leadership MUST BE CONVINCED THAT WE WILL NOT PASSIVELY ACCEPT Barack Obama as our Democratic Nominee, and that WE ARE STEADFAST Hillary Clinton Supporters. Consequently, the DNC Leadership MUST BE CONVINCED that if HRC IS NOT ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET IN NOVEMBER, SOME OF US MAY CHOOSE to leave the DEMOCRATIC Party, OR SIMPLY ‘STAY HOME’ ON ELECTION DAY.
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Posted by: Joyce | May 27, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
if the DNC allows the superdelegates to push and bully hillary this time around without giving her a fair chance to go throught the ENTIRE democratic process,
WE WILL NOT FORGET!
rest assure, the obama boy will lose this election and the democrats will NEVER recover from selling out their souls!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 27, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Mr. Dowd, you couldn’t be further from the truth! On the contrary, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has won the most popular votes and has also won all the major states and will win the remaining states. So stop runnung your mouth and engage your brain rather than making a fool of yourself!!
Go Hillary Clinton for ’08!!
TC Torrance, CA
Posted by: Tom Carnesi | May 27, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
if the DNC allows the superdelegates to push and bully hillary this time around without giving her a fair chance to go throught the ENTIRE democratic process,
WE WILL NOT FORGET!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 27, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 27, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THEIR ATTACKS ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 27, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Best analysis I’ve seen of the election so far… This sould be seen by everybody so they can get a grip over the campaign. And take a deep breath.
Posted by: ugh | May 27, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
It is completely about hope vs. fear. John McCain will try to continue terrorizing us about security, Just as Bush II has done the last 8 years.
Posted by: Louis | May 27, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Obama has 1600 pledged delegates, Clinton 1500 and she is still winning elections. This comes down to superdelegates, and if they choose to loose: There will be hell to pay!
The psychological analysis of Clinton is awful, another example of how people are deminishing Clinton unfairly, not facing up to the fact she can still win! It might be a slim chance, but she is running for President!
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 27, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Matthew Dowd is the same “journalist” who said recently, “Americans wanted to see Hillary as a “Mom” figure, but she gave them a “Dad” instead. Blatent sexism, smart-ass, uncaring journalism. Now, he arrogantly psychoanalyzes her. would he be so crass if she were a man running for President? Nope. Why cant a woman continue to run simply because she is a fighter?!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
MATTHEW DOWD IS VERY STUPID! IF YOU EVER WATCH HIM ON ABC, YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE SURPRISED BY HOW STUPID HE IS. HE DOES NOT KNOW THE FACTS.THE PROGRAM HOSTS OR OTHER GUESTS ALWAYS CORRECT HIS WRONG STATEMENTS.
I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY HAVE ON THE PROGRAMS. HE LOOKS VERY STUPID.
VIVA MCCAIN
Posted by: James | May 27, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
I think Mr. Dowd misses the boat on Clinton and fear. She doesn’t address voters’ concerns about the real problems that face them and our country any more than Obama does. Rather, I think Clinton mongers fear, as in “if Iran nukes Israel, we’ll nuke ‘em back!!” or her ever-popular “assassinations happen” theme. And that’s the major problem I have with her candidacy.
Just so you know where I’m coming from, I’m only a lukewarm Obama supporter–I gave money to and supported another Democratic candidate before eventually having to choose Obama over Clinton in the NY primary.
Posted by: Lisa in NY | May 27, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
LOL!!! What else have you noticed? I am not scared of Obama. I am scared of his zombies.
“I have noticed all along Obama’s supporters are siding with him out of HOPE for the nation. But HRC’s supporters reject Obama out of FEAR. And unfortunately, HRC plugged into that fear early on and was far too eager to fan those flames.”
Posted by: Tony | May 27, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
THIS MATTHEW DOWD IS A COPY CAT..MAN, I HOPE HIS KIDS ARE NOT BROUGHT UP TO BE AS STUPID AS HE IS. I CAN’T STAND IT!
Posted by: James | May 27, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN AN IDIOT.
HILLARY HAS NOT LOST LIKE HUCKABEE. SHE HAS WON 17Million votes. And if you count the votes as they were cast, then she has won more votes then YOUR FAVORITE MR. OBAMA.
Also OBAMA has lost all but 3 states, after the Rev. Wright’s comments. OBAMA is in lead because of Feb 5 election with a straight 10 victories, when US citizens hardly knew anything about him. And that is the reality, that Obama supporters have to emerse themselves into. Clinton has won 7 out of the 10 elections after Rev. Wright comments. North Carolina went to Obama because of 38% of Black voters. He got 56% of the votes, so only 18% non-black voters vs 42% of all non black voters voted for Hillary. America is 85% white, Super Delegates will have to come to terms with this statistics, and will have to decide, if they want to take chance or not? Also all the Traditional Blue votes, NJ, NY, CA etc voted for Hillary, they want Hillary to represent them. And that is another reality. SDs will have to decide if they want to take the TRADITIONAL BLUE voters for granted and put someone in White House, based on the RED state’s verdicts?
Hillary has more then 300 electoral votes and she will bag 50 more in the next 3 states that go to polls on 2nd june.
By all accounts – and the verdict of Blue voters – Hillary is wining. Media who is looking for next 4 years of scandles and profits is supporting Obama. Since they think they will have a lot of ammunition for next 4 years, Remember the same thing happened with Al Gore and President Bush. Media became rich in last 8 years of Bush’s rule – and they want to also make some more in the next 4 years, that’s why
Obama is Media’s favorite – and that’s the reality…
Posted by: Idiotic View Point | May 27, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
This guy took a newsgroup angle and turned it into an article. He calls himself a journalist, but in fact he is just another patronizing Obama-camper continuing the most vile and negative campaign I’ve ever seen.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 27, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Um, Matthew Dowd’s psychobabble falls flat on its sophmorically stupid face when he compares Hillary staying in the race with possibly Sens. Dodd or Biden staying in the race simply because “something might happen”. Um, Matt, where either Sens. Dodd or Biden pulling in over 30% of the votes in any of the primaries? Hillary is going to take the popular vote by June 3rd. There goes your lame-ass argument pal.
BTW, I voted for the great Senator Joe Biden myself.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
NO MORE DRAMA – VOTE OBAMA
You don’t seem to know that Obama sent a bunch of lawyers to Michigan to squash the re-vote effort. That’s hardly a neutral stance.
He’s just another politician out for himself like the rest. He preaches hope but comes up empty on details.
The article is slightly wrong — Obama fans are driven by fear. Just analyze their comments and their proclivity to associate everything to Bush who, by the way, is not running. That’s motivation by fear, not hope.
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
To: Average Joe
You can not stop the media doing their job. If you do not like what they write, its better you stop involving yourself in all discussion.
Nevertheless, I wish you luck on your longwaiting “Convetion”!
Posted by: Peace | May 27, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
I am an atypical (60 yrs. old white woman who earns less than $50K/yr.) Obama supporter and I can say without hesitation that I am supporting him BECAUSE he is the candidate who is playing to our hopes instead of our fears. And if he didn’t understand our fears, he wouldn’t be able to speak to our hopes. I would love nothing better than to be able to support a woman for President, but when & if that happens, it’s going to have to be a woman who models a radically different sort of political leadership style from same old, same old. Clinton, unfortunately, has not done this.
Posted by: Lu in FL | May 27, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Sorry REPLACE CONGRESS, Obama did not take the votes away from FL and MI. You can thank the DNC and the Governors of these 2 states for taking away these votes. The governors moved the primaries up and the DNC punished these states. Please show me where B.O. has come into this equation?
I swear I have read tons of blogs and forums on this presidential thing, and I have most certainly noticed, that B.O. does bring out the brighter more intelligent Americans, while HRC seems to bring out people with little education. They do not debate back they spew insults. And McCain supporters seem to be afraid (and very gulible I might add).
Am I the only one who has observed this?
Posted by: Citizen in FL | May 27, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Great post. Obama must know how to command fear, not so much in order to use it as to know how to fight it when it is used against him. As it will be in the fall.
Said Bruce Springsteen, who has endorsed Obama:
“Fear’s a powerful thing
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It’ll take your God filled soul
And fill it with devils and dust.”
Posted by: El_Pajaro | May 27, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Average Joe…I assume you are referencing your IQ…Hillary has HAD more than a fair chance. And we are only left with 3 primaries. As to voter suppression, why not turn that anger on the Supreme Court and their recent ruling to try and prevent poor people, old folks, and disabled people from voting?
If we don’t elect a Democrat in 08, then get ready for LOTS of things to change, including the balance of the Supreme Court! We can’t allow a President McCain to appoint more Roberts and Allito types.
Hillary is not fighting this battle for voters, she is fighting this battle for Hillary. As with all things Clinton, them first and America second.
Posted by: Annoyed | May 27, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Perhaps you should stick to writing about politics. Your toxic “pop psychology” leaves a lot to be desired….
“As I have mentioned before, Clinton looks like to me that she is tired, slightly desperate and going through the stages of grief from a lost dream. She has been in denial, moving through anger and sadness, but seems stuck in bargaining, while still needing to get to acceptance.
Maybe someone can set up a 12 step program for politicians who have a hard time coming to terms with leaving the stage. First step as always is admitting you have a problem.
I feel for her as her arguments for staying in get more and more convoluted and rather bizarre. Using her logic, no losing candidate should ever drop out. Huckabee should have stayed in because you never know what could happen. Or Biden or Dodd or Edwards or Richardson should have stayed in the race because who knows what might happen?
My guess: acceptance in the stages of grief will come on or around June 3rd.”
Posted by: Tony | May 27, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Barack, Hillary, come together and beat the Republicans that have ruined our country these past eight years.
Posted by: JOE | May 27, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Hope and fear?
I hope American voters remember that Obama shares Jeremiah Wright’s radical left-wing values.
Obama fears that they will.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Actually, Obama played on fear many times in the campaign.
We are tired of “Washington politics.”
Clinton will divide the nation.
I am “confident that I can win Clinton’s voters,” but I’m not sure she can get mine.
The Republicans will have a “dumptruck of dirt” on Clinton.
Clinton is “more of the same.”
People became bitter because of Bush and Clinton.
Clinton will “garnish” your wages to pay for health care.
Clinton will ship your jobs away.
Clinton will lie to you. Clinton wants me killed! OOOps, not she doesn’t…let’s now move on….
McCain = Bush III
McCain wants 100 years of warfare in Iraq
McCain loses his bearings
STOP THE MADNESS!!!
Posted by: Tony | May 27, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Vote for HOPE.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Aaron | May 27, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Another piece of nonsense from BO:
Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz.
Unfortunately, he didn’t pay attention in History class. It was the Russians who liberated Auschwitz. Some how stupidity like this will be spun to his advantage.
Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 27, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Average Joe, you got it right! The media has promoted Obama shamelessly. Had the DNC not unfairly disallowed the MI and FL primary date changes and not waited past their own deadline to resolve this, Clinton would be much further ahead. What worries me about Obama is that his campaign speeches are a mismatch with his voting record. His campaign has been divisive inciting issues on race where the intent has been innocent and his campaign has turned it into negative and derogatory. After Obama went to Kenya to help his cousin Odinga and the aftermath was bloodshed, I have real concerns about his capabilities and effectiveness to lead and his true positions. He is too liberal for most and too inexperienced, and fails to grasp key issues as shown in the debates.
Posted by: Troy | May 27, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Hillary voted for this war. That was her first mistake. Her second was to run a fairly poor campaign. Her third was to change into different people that we people could barely rcognize trying to play hard and as a hawk so she could be accepted by men.
Her fourth mistake was to attack someone so viciously that people found it unacceptable even in a competitive race. Her fifth was race baiting and calling out race codes so she could divide the electorate which was successful on one hand but so divisive on the other hand tha she lost me, a once faithful supporter.
Finally, she made the mistake of thinking that because people voted for her husband they would all vote for her, that is not necessarily true. And that whining all the time.
I am a so-called Hillary demographic old enough to know about and relate to everything she’s going through and also smart enough to see through everything she tried.
Posted by: Marchion | May 27, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Yes — this is such a hopeful message by Obama!!! I love how he twists everything. He is “hopeful” because he is not like the crazy fearmongerers…..Of course, calling McCain a fearmongerer isnt hopeful.
“It is completely about hope vs. fear. John McCain will try to continue terrorizing us about security, Just as Bush II has done the last 8 years.”
Posted by: Tony | May 27, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
It’s over for the Democratic Party.
Sen McCain-08
Posted by: whatever | May 27, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Yes, HRC has the popular vote IF (big IF) you don’t count the caucus states. The caucus states go by percentages. If we add the votes from MI and FL, we should also add the popular vote from NV, IA, etc. Then, B. O. again is in the lead. Its time for HRC to give it up, instead of allowing the disbarred attorney, impeached President to continue spewing bad info to lg groups of people.
Posted by: Willow | May 27, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
the DNC cannot hand this over to the least experienced candidate, who is behind in the popular vote and who has refused over and over to COUNT THE VOTES!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THEIR ATTACKS ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 27, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Well i think it’s about time for people to understand that Hillary needs to sit this one out.She’s played the race card, and simply that failed. Now she is trying to get make the same thing happen to Obama, as what happened to Robert F. Kennedy. This woman needs to just quit and let Obama have his date with the White House. Obama will win if he is the Democratic nominee. Because people of America is tired of the same old lies that George Bush and the rest of the Rep. party did while they had authority.
Another thing people continuely saying that Obama don’t have know experience. Well can go for Hillary, and John Mccain, because neither of them has been president. The only one can say that have experiences is former Presidents. I suggest we stop poinying our fingers and start to look at the real issues. The issues are we have been in Iraq to long. We have lost young men who could have been men of prommise, but they are dead. The economy, Health Care, Unemployment. We need someone to feel the hurt of America women and men trying to buy gas to feed our family. Every time i think about this war I am easily upset. We didn’t have any business over there know more than we have any business in Afganastan. All these lies about Obama Pastor what about John Haggee, and Rod Parsley,John Mccain is also guilty.
I am a Obama supporter, but if Hillary Clinton is the nominee then I will vote for her. Enough of this racial stuff. Brothers if you are black or white it isn’t but Heaven and one Hell. God dosn’t have color or creed all of us are His children. Vote Obama 08
Posted by: Charles W Pettiford | May 27, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
REPLACE CONGRESS – there is no such thing as the “most important” right…. The most ‘important’ is only relevant to the situation at hand. For instance, A woman that was raped and got pregnant, may want to abort her baby……thus praticing and maybe the most important right to chose abortion. The argument about most important right is to vote is weak, especially in this case where the right to vote was at the risk of breaking the ‘right’ of the party rules… HRC is a strong woman and she should see this for what its worth…… she ran a campain and lost. it is true she would have been the first female president, but nontheless she still is making history… despite the fact she ruined her chances by making some poor decisions / choices..
Posted by: Smarter than the rest | May 27, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Matthew Dowd must not have competed much in his life.
Why? Using Dowd’s quitter mentality, if a fighter is losing a boxing match in the latter rounds, he should just throw in the towel.
When the Boston Celtics got behind the Detroit Pistons late in their last game, they should have just stopped the game in the fourth quarter and conceded.
If the New York Yankees are down by several runs in the 9th inning, they should just walk off the field and forfeit their last three turns at bat.
I find Dowd’s call for Hillary to quit, even though Obama still doesn’t have enough delegates to lock up the Democratic presidential nomination, to reflect poorly on himself.
Dowd thinks quitting is o.k.
I think that quitters never win, and winners never quit.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Hillary has continued to support seating all delegates and having the votes counted in MI and FL. Obama refused to negotiate or support a revote that Hillary proposed, in fact he did all he could to stop the votes from being counted. To curry favor with voters, Obama withdrew his name from the ballot in MI as others did, after the polls showed that Hillary would win big in MI. Many voters have expected that the DNC would eventually seat the delegates from MI and FL, and those states immediately appealed the DNC decision. I’d sooner support a candidate that supports democracy, which means counting all the votes and letting delegates have their say. Obama has said previously that the state super delegates should vote the same way as the majority in their state, and then he has contacted those superdelegates daily in order for them to change their votes to him and to not support the majority vote in the state.
Posted by: Sally | May 27, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Over the weekend Hillary Clinton attended a rally in Puerto Rico where her supporters booed Obama. Obama has been going out of his way to commend Clinton, yet Clinton (and her husband) seem intent on continuing to denigrate Obama. HOW IS THIS UNIFYING THE PARTY? Or, could it be that Clinton’s comments that she’s staying in the race because she wants to unify the party are just one more lie that she tells to others — and to herself — so that she doesn’t have to admit that she lost? She’s like an alcoholic who keeps drinking because she thinks she can control her liquor. GIVE IT UP, Hillary. You’ve lost. Go away. And take your husband with you.
Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
All these Obama lovers who have been pushing for Hillary to give up are a joke. As if you people knew what was best for the party. You already had your chance. Kerry and Gore, who were supposed to be highly intelligent people, lost to a Moron and you let it happen.
Where were you people when the recount happened, when Bush stole the elections? That’s when you should have been screaming and fighting.
The only ones who could beat these people are the Clintons. Bill did it. Hillary can to. When will you wake up?
You people are going to cause us to lose this election as well. Mark my word.
Posted by: Anthony Mark | May 27, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Why is OBAMA ashamed of his middle name HUSSEIN? Is it because Hussein is an arabic name? What is wrong with that?
Posted by: James | May 27, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
This is a gem of a piece. Obama and Clinton should read and re-read it as Democrats wind down the primary season! Now about McCain’s challenge to Obama to come to Iraq, lets not forget that this is McCain-Bush-Cheney war. They are the ones who should spent the rest of their days in Iraq, not Obama. Obama has better things to do. Perhaps they want Obama to come there so that they can do him in. This is a war that Obama said from the beginning should not have been declared. Overwhelming number of Americans agree!!! Dr. Sam
Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 27, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Let Hilary go quietly into the night. She won’t of course. She’ll go screaming, fighting, cursing, blaming, sobbing, and threatening. She’s no team player, only a “me” player.
Posted by: touchetgal | May 27, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Hillary and Bill Clinton have been in the ANGER phase for the last 15 years. Angry that he got caught cheating on his wife; angry that idiots didn’t accept her health plan; angry that they had to leave the White House; angry that people just don’t get that they are the golden couple; angry that they aren’t the golden couple. If there’s one advantage to voting McCain for President it’s that he’ll die pretty soon and we won’t have McCain the Ex-President standing at every podium he can get wagging his finger at the world for the next 50 years.
Posted by: Bubba | May 27, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
B.O. does bring out the brighter more intelligent Americans, while HRC seems to bring out people with little education. They do not debate back they spew insults. And McCain supporters seem to be afraid (and very gulible I might add).
Am I the only one who has observed this?
Citizen in FL —————–
What blogs have you been reading. Most of the vile, hateful comments come from Obama supporters. Name calling, elitist attitudes that they are so much more educated than Hillary supporters. I just don’t see where a piece of paper makes you smart. I’d rather have 10 people with life skills and common sense than one person with a degree who is book smart.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Apparently, only women are seen as so emotional that they are viewed as going through a “grief” process during elections. I never heard that argument made about Edwards last year – who stayed around after it was clear he wouldn’t win. Neither with respect to Dean who went from frontrunner to loser over night. I didnt hear that argument made about Ted Kennedy or Jesse Jackson or Gary Hart when they ran out the primary seasons, despite losing by much more than Clinton. Alas, men just “play the game.” Women are psychos. I get it. Thanks for clarifying things.
Posted by: Tony | May 27, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Hillary Supporters Unite!
Vote a solid Republican ticket in November! and send a clear message to Howard Dean and the DNC. Disrespect Hillary and your loyal fan base goes bye-bye!
Hillary Supporters, join me in voting a solid Republican ticket in November. Hillary can re-run again in 2012. And demand that the DNC fire Howard Dean!
Posted by: Truth Be Told | May 27, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
I get that McCain has more experience with the military than does Obama. But his experience is primarily from Viet Nam. Is it possible that he has the WONG kind of experience? Maybe he thinks it is OK to fight a way of attrition, since that is the war we fought in Viet Nam. Maybe he thinks it is OK to fight a war where there are no clear victories and where the only exit plan is complete occupation of a country, just like in Viet Nam. I say again, maybe McCain has the WRONG kind of experience. I don’t want my great-grandchildren dying in Iraq!
Posted by: Viet Nam Vet | May 27, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
I just can’t resist commenting on the ugly, hateful tone of responses to this piece that have been posted by those who are opposed to Barack Obama’s candidacy. The language used, for me, characterizes a grievous lack of reason and intellect among many of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters.
Isn’t it time that we put the politics of hate and fear behind us? For crying out loud, people… would you really rather have four more years of Reganomics and wasted blood in Iraq than an African American with a funny sounding name in the White House?
Posted by: Kent | May 27, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Bubba,
Michelle Obama is the angry one. YIKES! Now that woman is a piece of work.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
What I love in this article is a man that supports NEITHER candidate admits that HRC is blaming her losses on everything but her. Get a clue people. Lol. Obama is not the devil as much as some would like him to be.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
USmarine0331
Hillary has had it. Time to join the O-Bozo express!
Toot Toot! All aboard!
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Kent,
I’d rather vote for a decorated war hero than somebody who doesn’t have a clue about foreign policy. Some of the things he has been suggesting are plain off the wall.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
What type of sorry human being do you have to be to take this article and somehow hate on Obama?? I guess youd have to be a sorry, stupid human.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“Obama is a fairy tale.. he presents himself as prince charming, but he’s really a grasping nasty vicious politico.”
Posted by: trettine
LOL – Case and point right there. Trettine is apparently frightened that Senator Obama is a “nasty, vicious politico”. Seems if that were the case, he would not continually give Hillary passes on her extremely offensive gaffs but we are all entitled to our own opinion. Don’t be afraid. He’ll be a very good president. He’ll goof at times like we all do, but Senator Obama will lead this nation in an effective, pragmatic, and optimistic way.
Posted by: EddyNewHope | May 27, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Out of the mouths of babes: In anticipation of Memorial Day, my son’s 5th grade class was studying WWII, and this led to a great discussion between my son and myself. My son noted that the U.S. and Russia were enemies in WWII. He said he understood that Stalin was a very bad man and that the Communist regime was very brutal to its own people. But, in order to defeat an even more imminent danger (Hitler), Roosevelt teamed with Stalin to fight Hitler. The U.S. and Russia were allies to fight against a common enemy. We all know that.
Then my son asked: Why didn’t Bush use Sadaam Husein to fight against al-Qaeda? We all know that Sadam Hussein was a brutal man, but he was also a natural enemy of al-Quaeda. Wouldn’t it have been better NOT to invade Iraq and to seek Iraq’s help in killing al-Qaeda? Once my son said that, it became crystal clear to me that the entire Iraq war had been a mistake. We could have used Saddam Hussein to track down and kill Osama bin Laden. So, why didn’t Bush do this? It doesn’t make sense. It was al-Qaeda that attacked us. It was al-Qaeda that was threatening the use of weapons of mass destruction. Why didn’t we use Iraq in our fight? Why did we start two wars at the same time? Iraq was the natural enemy of Iran — we could have used Hussein for that as well. It just doesn’t make sense. If McCain’s judgment is as bad as Bush’s judgment in this matter, then I will vote for the Democratic nominee.
Posted by: Soccer Dad | May 27, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
The Oracle
Are you referring to Obama (aka Soetoro)?
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Which one J?? Be specific. Is it wanting to talk to enemies like our greatest Presidents have done?? Or could it be wanting to get out of our dependency on foreign oil?? Maybe its wanting to revamp Affirmative Action?? Which is it??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Soccer Dad
Aren’t you reading a lot into something that’s not there? Or do you live your life by spin?
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Do you want America to remain the world’s only super power, or do you want Obama to lead America’s decline to being an equal to lesser countries, like France?
Do you want America to guarantee its access to Middle Eastern Oil, or would you rather see Iran become the dominant power in the Middle East, and to gain control of Iraq, even though another Arab oil embargo will cause massive unemployment, inflation, and an economic depression at home?
Do you want Iran to be prevented from acquiring nuclear weapons, or do you want Iran to acquire nuclear weapons?
If you want America to decline, vote for Obama.
If you want America to remain the world’s only super-power, vote for Hillary or McCain.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
A, I’m refering to people who can’t read the writing on the wall, so they take to character assassinating a man with bull, innuendo, and rhetoric.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
“Now one of Clinton’s Laws of Politics is this,” Mr. Clinton says. “If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think; if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope. That’s the best.”
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
“I’d rather vote for a decorated war hero than somebody who doesn’t have a clue about foreign policy.”
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008 11:20:58 AM
Uuuuuh – McBush.. I mean McCain has advocated another “100 years in Iraq”, suggested that Iran was training “Al Quida”, and that doesn’t even speak to his domestic policy which includes the belief that the economy is doing great – a joke in itself. I do respect McCain for serving in the military but he got shot down and captured. To me, a hero is the guy who hits the enemy and saves the POW but I guess we live the age of “heck of a job Brownie”.
Posted by: EddyNewHope | May 27, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
lol. Usmarine, the crazy part about that statement is I HOPE you don’t really believe we are the worlds only superpower. if you do, then I understand COMPLETELY why you support a candidate that lies to your face.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
In this time when Americans are most excited, Democrats do not let STUPIDITY or ANGER or ANY negative energy take you away from the ultimate goal. The goal – is to win the nominee then win the election. I know that every supporter supports with passion and emotion for his / her senator. Be fair to the PROCESS. If both ran a campain and the results are in. Then accept the results. Don’t hate the other because you are so UPSET with the results that you BLAME everyone and everything. Step back from the emotions or biasness and regain your logical train of thoughts. Let’s assume that both candidates messed up somehow, then that would make them even.. Assume also that they are now campaining positively to UNITE; then why can’t we do the same as followers??? Don’t blame either candidate for what the media does. Ladies will vote for Hillary cause it is exciting and hopeful to see her in the whitehouse. Blacks will vote for BO for a similar reason. It is natural to do…….. but we have to move pass that when we see our candidate is not prevailing. Think the greater good for you, your country and your people. Let’s stop the HATE; unite.
Posted by: Smarter than the rest | May 27, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
And J, you probably make that comment after voting for Bush over another war hero(Kerry)
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
MCCAIN’S WAR–NOT OBAMA’S
First, I refer bloggers to a very short but interesting article by Matthew Dowd on ABC News website this morning about how Hillary should end her fight for a nomination she cannot win. She is in mourning! This is a gem of a piece. In fact, Obama and Clinton should read and re-read it as Democrats wind down the primary season! Now about McCain’s challenge to Obama to come to Iraq, let’s not forget that this is McCain-Bush-Cheney war. They are the ones who should spend the rest of their days in Iraq, not Obama. This is their war. Obama has better things to do. Perhaps they want Obama to come there so that they can do him in. This is a war that Obama said from the beginning should not be fought and should never have been declared. Overwhelming number of Americans agree!!! McCain wants to fight this election on simply empty rhetoric about honor, duty and country. We all love the country; but that does not mean that military men are always the best people to lead it nor do they always have the best ideas about how to go forward. Therefore, the best Presidents we have had in this country have come from people who never even served in the military–in the past Abe Lincoln and more recently Bill Clinton (before he became afflicted with middle age crazy). There have been some good presidents who served in the military–e.g., Eisenhower; but our Presidents have been mostly civilians. And let us not forget that McCain’s hero and bedfellow–George W. Bush–never served! McCain is not saying anything about that!–Dr. Sam
Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 27, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
What is presently happening to the Clinton Campaign and the evocation of the Assasination of Kennedy during June 1968 seems to me a clear frustration from her part and her comtemplation that a likely situation should happen to Obama. I do not think that her evocation of of the Campaigns in June 1992 and that of 1968 in which Bobby Kennedy was assasinated hat any connection to the Campaign of 2008. I think sen. Clinton is not taking all Americans for fools. Why should Clinton and her Campaign be complaning only about other forces that hampered their successes, THE MEDIA; SEXISM; OBAMA; what about Her and her campaign? She should allow her finger from Obama, Obama hat shown all the concern for her during the campaign, but now she is soliciting the assasination of Obama. America is now too advanced for your call.
Posted by: Ngemason | May 27, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Posted by: Greg McDonald | May 27, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Smarter than the rest
I agree! Unite – behind McCain. He’s a much better democrat than is the puppet of Dean and Pelosi.
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Sivia Johnson: Delegate count is Obama 1658** (not 1600 as you suggest) to Clinton’s 1500. Please at least get your facts straight before posting.
**RCP, 5/27/08
Goooooobama!
Posted by: Willis | May 27, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
The Oracle, I got news for you; that is, America is the world’s only super power.
Why? Because no other country can match the economic and military might of the United States.
If you are arguing to the contrary, you are only fooling yourself.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Hey A, and thats why he’s against pro choice, gay marriage and an MLK holiday right?? If yuou think thats a Dem, please do vote McCain in the GE.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Oracle,
Just listen to him on Iran. First they were no big deal. The next day he totally flip flops on the subject. Iran is nobody to mess with and he thinks that he will sit down with Ahmenijad (not sure I spelled that right) and talk nice with that nut? His hope and change bs isn’t gonna cut it with Iran, or Cuba.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
For those who think it is inappropriate for Sen. Obama to campaign in locations other than current primary states: true, he is not (yet) the party nominee… but neither is Sen. McCain… and both men are to be the eventual nominees once the two conventions make it official. Certainly it is important to move beyond campaigning for the party nomination once the outcome is obvious, if not official… since the ultimate goal is victory in the general election. Sen. McCain isn’t campaigning for the Republican nomination anymore… that’s a foregone conclusion (despite appeals from the Ron Paul camp)… and the same can be said for Sen. Obama, even though Sen. Clinton may not like it. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if Sen. Clinton would focus on the goal of winning the White House for the Democratic party… rather than spending money she doesn’t have on a campaign that ended months ago… and potentially tarnishing her party and its nominee?
Posted by: Great Caesar's Ghost | May 27, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Hillary should run as an Independent. I think she will!
Posted by: Joyce | May 27, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
The only grief is going to be coming from the Democratic Party when they lose the GE, yet again, because of gross incompetence.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Joyce,
I hope she does. She can tell the democrats to kiss her behind.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Oh really marine?? So who do you think is buying that gas you put in your car?? Its not us, Ding Ding Ding!!!!! You got it, its China. Who if they wanted could completely crash our economy?? Right again!!!! China!!! Could we do that to them?? If we’re the ONLY superpower why was your Pres just begging the Saudis for more oil?? And FYI, the dollar is weak right now. Please do your research and stop letting your heart get you into arguments your mind cant fight. See, the problem is some people are so blinded by being an American that they think everything is good while their world, and economy comes crashing down around them.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Ridiculous article! Ridiculous! Ridiculous! ABC, leave Hillary alone!!!!
Posted by: Danny | May 27, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
“I agree! Unite – behind McCain. He’s a much better democrat than is the puppet of Dean and Pelosi.”
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008
Bwaaaaaaaah – A, Are you serious? You do remember McCain promising his “base” that he will appoint supreme court justices that will overturn Roe v. Wade. Keep in mind that they are 1 vote away with Bush’s Alito and Roberts picks. McCain stated that Iran was training Al Quida (only to be corrected by his stooge Lieberman), stated flatly that he didn’t understand the economy, and is advocating ANOTHER preemptive war against Iran. You really believe that McCain is a “better Democrat”?
Posted by: EddyNewHope | May 27, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Sen. Clinton has been running as an independent ever since Super Tuesday. Let’s hope she doesn’t play that game in November.
Posted by: Great Caesar's Ghost | May 27, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
J, so who is worse?? U.S.S.R. with all the nukes they had pointed at us?? Or Iran who is TRYING to get a nuke?? So should we not have talked to them?? If my mind serves me correctly Bush said the same nonsense about N. Korea, and how many nukes have they test fired since his inauguration?? So has that way worked??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Another Hillary supporter here ready to become a McCainiac if Obama is nominated.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
answer this question for me delustional hillary supporters
why did hillary sign the agreement to not let the florida and michigan votes count? why did she only think about having them counted once she got behind? where was to outrage when her man ickes agree to this? again why does she continue to use the fuzzy math by not counting the caucus states since she states every vote should count? could you who know so much about her explain that to me?ra
Posted by: meme | May 27, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
People – this article isn’t about who is the best candidate – it is about what the electorate sees in them. Stay on topic – who cares about your comments of McCain is best or Obama is best – the article is talking about why candidates appeal to certain voters. So read the article first.
Great article.
Posted by: Wiley | May 27, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Hilliary vs. Obama is IQ vs. EQ.
I think Hillary has higher IQ, while Obama MAY have higher EQ. I didn’t say he has, I said MAY. Because the media supports him, because he has fewer enemies, because young voters all look Hillary’s short comings, because Hillary has been in people’s eyes for so many years so people get used to see her short comings and ignore her achievements. Because all of these, they made Obama emotionally advantegous, they made so much pressure on Hillary.
But EQ can be improved, IQ can not be improved.
If all those conditions above change, Hillary will show better emotional control.
That means, Hillary is better and safer choice for Dem. party and for the country.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | May 27, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Oracle,
If you think that Iran doesn’t already have nukes you are as naive as Obama is.
Let your little messiah screw this country up even more. I have several options if Hillary doesn’t run as an independent. I either won’t vote, vote McCain.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
“Hillary Supporters, join me in voting a solid Republican ticket in November. Hillary can re-run again in 2012. And demand that the DNC fire Howard Dean!”
Posted by: Truth Be Told | May 27, 2008
Your shortsightedness is profound. You do realize that if Senator Obama secures the nomination and looses because of “Hillary supporters” BOTH Clintons will be finished in politics forever? The Clintons will be viewed with a degree of ire reserved for the likes of Benedict Arnold and Ralph Nader. Be careful what you wish for – if that happens, the Clintons will be the ones requiring extra Secret Service protection for having helped facilitate another 4 years of war, recession, more GOP supreme court justices, environmental disaster, etc.
Posted by: EddyNewHope | May 27, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Agreed, good article. Hillary purposely pushed fear though, and a bit too hard! That turned off a lot of undecided democrats that pushed them over to Obama.
I think Obama has a very good chance of beating McCain in the GE, but he does have some demons to over come.
I would like to see Obama drop the use of big words for the GE and not be afraid to speak more plainly. He should not make the same mistakes that both Gore and Kerry made! Both were 100% better speakers then bush, and 150% smarter then Bush, yet Bush beat them both.
He really can not appear to be a elitist! And I’m afraid his excellent command of the english language may scare some people. He needs to dummy himself up so he can connect to the average Americans. By practice they do not want a President too much smarter then themselves!
He needs to connect to these people! And he can’t do that by playing basketball wearing a suite and tie! He needs to address their fears BUT not over play it. Let McCain over play it!
My biggest worry is he is going to appear as a elitist. Hillary Clinton and Bill were both more elitist then Obama, BUT the Clinton’s know how to speak Hill-Bill, which is some thing Obama is not good at. Not to worry neither is McCain! Another elitist! So there is a good chance Obama can win the GE and become the first black President of the USA!
Go Obama 2008!
Posted by: IndieVisible | May 27, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Hey than do you. But you’re only proving my point that we should talk. Lol. Oh I get it, they’re just going to give up their nuclear aspirations singing kumbaya because you or Bush say they should?? Who’s really naive??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Smarter than the rest
Without a doubt, McCain is the better democrat. Obama (aka Soetoro) is a puppet who will do what Pelosi and the other ultras tell him to do. Simple!
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
She might win the popular vote (if she does)because the women of this country want to see a woman do this.WELL I am a woman and if she was the RIGHT one I would vote for her too.But she is not that person.She tells people what they want to hear rather it be true or not. All the life I have never seen a woman lie ,cheat accuse other things and people for her loss.What would she do in the White house think about it.Wrong move on a meaning full thing and who is going to blame????
Posted by: older person | May 27, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Obama’s rise to the power if he becomes president – almost similar to the rise of Moghuls in Indian history. My rationale – Moghuls, a group of Muslims,
took over India in 15/16th century, India being Hindu majority country even aat that time. A crow with feathers of peacock cannot be peacock. Even though he claims he is Chritian, he cannot be gtrue Chritian. There is a difference between growing up Christian since birth and adopt Christainity when you are adult. Many people he has relationsips with, are of Muslim background. I know these same Muslims would significantly buy influence when he becomes President. That’s the scary part I am very much concerned about. This is another road for this country to be another India with constant blackmailing by fundamentalist Muslims.
Posted by: kris | May 27, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
EddyNewHope
Obama (aka Soetoro) is a wooden headed puppet whose strings are pulled by a few puppeteers. Wise people recognize that.
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
So tell me J, whats your GREAT idea to get Iran to give up their nukes?? Nothing?? Drop bombs, what?? I need to know. Because everytime I ask one of you guys this question you have NO answer..
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Hillary Supporters Unite!
Vote a solid Republican ticket in November! and send a clear message to Howard Dean and the DNC. Disrespect Hillary or fail to count Florida and Michigan and your loyal fan base goes bye-bye!
Hillary Supporters, join me in voting a solid Republican ticket in November. Hillary can re-run again in 2012. And demand that the DNC fire Howard Dean!
Don’t pay attention to the Obama imbiciles on this blog. All they want is their candidate to win. Obama is too inexperienced and will ruin this country with his stupidity. Obama will raise your taxes. Obama will shame this country internationally. Obama and his angry wife and pastor will totally destroy this country!
Posted by: Truth Be Told | May 27, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
EddyNewHope I agree with your idea, but I believe that the Clinton’s are already finished in politics. They only have books, and speeches left. May be State Fairs too. There will always be a few fans left. The Clinton’s are finished for good thanks to the worst campaign ever seen in modern times!
Posted by: IndieVisible | May 27, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
HP Boston,
And you voted for George W. Bush… Why is Senator McCain so appealing? He’s been in the Senate for decades and now he represents the GOP, WHY!! I would think with all his experience he would have been their candidate 8 years ago. As for military service, that’s not a requirement in becoming President. What makes him an American Hero? Being a POW.. There’s hundreds of former soldiers who were POW’s are they Presidential material. NO
Posted by: Martin | May 27, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
You can get your Obama puppet doll at Toys R US beginning June 3. They will be on special for the low price of $19.99
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Martin
Isn’t your logic a bit childish?
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Why do Obama supporters keep trying to sell their product here when there aren’t any buyers? Why not sing his praises at huffpo where they’ve erected a temple to praise your Messiah.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Hey A, are those the same wise people that believed that gas tax pander?? Are they the same that believed Hill was against Cafta when her husband made a million dollars advocating it?? Maybe those are the same people that believe she was landing under sniper fire?? Muahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Oracle,
Didn’t you just say they didn’t have nukes?
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Sally >>>>She wanted a re vote for she is behind .Do you think for one minute if she was ahead and Oboma was in her position she would do this ..?????
Posted by: older person | May 27, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Oracle, you appear to be clueless about the economic and military might of the United States and Red China.
Many independent analysts put China’s annual military spending between $50 billion to $65 billion, including research and development.
In comparison, the U.S. defense budget for 2006 was about $420 billion.
See, e.g., http://www.cfr.org/publication/10824/scope_of_chinas_military_threat.html
China’s economy is about 1/5th of the United States.
See, e.g., http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RS22808.pdf
Don’t take my word for it.
Go ahead and check it out for yourself.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
BO is a Black fairy tale.. Lets call a Spade a Spade. He presents himself as prince charming, but he’s really another Black man trying to con the public. What has it said that will become reality? At Least John McCain has a Track Record and a good one to boot.
I hate to think that the Dems would try to elect a president because he is a black man. No Experience Needed!
Posted by: Jaime Faquatts | May 27, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Whether they do or not. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THEM?? exactly, nothing. Just sit on your computer and criticize those who come up with ideas. Lol. Sounds like a russian to me.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
The Oracle
Obama (aka Soetoro) is still a wooden-headed puppet who spurts hatred and who divides people. McCain is still the better candidate. Obama is a smug and arrogant nothing.
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
So marine, answer this 1 question and you win. Why do we owe them trillions of dollars?? Why do THEY THREATEN TO CRASH OUR ECONOMY ON AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE and our Pres says nothing??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
older person
Do you believe that, if the roles were reversed, Obama (aka Soetoro) would wimp out and withdraw. What a guy!
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Lol. A, you seem to be the only one spewing hate sir.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
This is one reason we support Hillary ….. we don’t want the Chicago ‘Combine’ corruption in the White House. We are trying to get the corruption OUT of the White shouse, not elect yet another corrupt politician!!
“US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald does not make a habit of destroying pubic officials by listing them in indictments for no reason and the only two political candidates identified as receiving campaign money from Operation Board Games kickback schemes are Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich and the US Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama.”
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080513_curtain_time_for_bar.htm
Posted by: Never Obama | May 27, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Truth Be Told…
The country is already ruined, thanks to the Long Ranger “George W. Bush” and his Wild Wild West policy. Just continue letting GOM’s run the country, that’s Grump Old Men… We don’t need the same mess and expect different results.
Posted by: Martin | May 27, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Barack can Lose!!
I was about to add an opinion on my blog about MoveOn.Org’s padding of the causus vote with students. IOWA was a perfect example.
We found out after the fact that the voters in Indiana, West Virginia, Texas and Ohio voted differently after hearing Obama and clearing the fog of the media bias. They voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton .
MoveOn .Org worked hard behind the scenes, to orchestrate the exposure of Barack, but the working class and lower middle class were not fooled by the intelligensia “pimping” attitude of Barack. By trying to use the most sexist attempt of demonising a Presidential candidate.
They tried every approach and media available including HUFFINGTONPOST.COM to lambaste Hillary’s character, from her hair, to her bloomers and smile and everything trying to cast a negative light on her. Shame on you Ariana Huffington..as a woman.
You can bet your money, that the workers, especially the unionised workers, will sniff and sift out your “con” eventually. Sometimes before they make the crucial mistake but they will see the conman in Obama/
Let the truth be told , the working and middle class membership of the DNC should organise to ensure that Hillary Clinton is not denied the democrats opportunity to win the White House. Obama the conman, will lose the white house, if he is nominated as the DNC candidate. But Hillary can win it outright.
If Obama wants to be President he can only do so with Hillary Clinton as his Vice President. Or if things turn around surprisingly she can win with him as the Vice. ( more unlikely given the statistics)
If the country can vote a ridiculously stupid guy , named George Bush, into the white house, they can and may, given the chance, vote into the white house, a very lame and incoherent John McLame (Cain).
That’s ny take…you can have your take (on my blog )..but don’t suck.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Never Obama you say you support Clinton because you don’t want more corruption in the White House? Your kidding right? The Clinton’s have more corruption and scandals then even former President Nixon! Thank you for the funnest thing I will hear today! Good one! Clinton’s good clean honest Americans! LMAO!!!!
Posted by: IndieVisible | May 27, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Oracle,
I was just stating you said they didn’t have nukes. I don’t think there is any reasoning with Ahmenijad. The man is a psycho.
First of all they need to find out where the nukes are because you know they have them or are very close to having them. Very low level talks would be a start to find out what there intentions are.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
It’s certainly disparaging to compare a candidate’s determination to stay in a close race as a stage of grief or denial. However, it spite of Clintons political obituaries, voters keep turning out in record and large numbers and will probably continue to do so until the primaries are finished. Several times this month, she has called for her supporters to back Obama. I don’t call that denial, but being both gracious and determined to pave a Democratic victory for the country. You could also call that the politics of hope.
It appears Mr. Dowd is trying to define Clinton supporters by demographics. Voting is a choice that may be described, but not defined, by the demographics. I believe she has significant support among centrists, irrespective of socioeconomics and education.
Finally, I don’t think applying hospice philosophy to a presidential race shows respect to either.
Posted by: katrina | May 27, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
If Obama will be elected as the President of the United States, history will remember him with different titles:
Prince of Deception, Prince of Darkness, The Black Wizard,and the Hollow Man.
Posted by: Bob | May 27, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Addressd to all of the women of this board who claim they’ll ‘vote for McCain if Hillary Clinton does not get the nomination’:
This means several things (most notably is that you’re inconsistent in your logic, your politics, and deceitful)- you’re supposedly voting for Hillary because of her stances on issues? But you’ll vote for Pro-life, pro-Iraq war McCain while saying you’re voting for Hillary because she’s for ‘women’s rights and wants to end the war’? Perhaps it’s the fog of war in this campaign, but I think those of you saying you’re going to vote for McCain so he can install pro-life judges on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe V Wade, extend the war in Iraq and increase troop levels there, and make Bush’s tax cuts to higher-income earners permanent are full of garbage. Good riddance to you. You’re deceitful, angry, bitter people frustrated that America simply doesn’t want Hillary Clinton to lead us. It’s not that she’s a woman- it’s that she’s a terrible candidate.
Posted by: Soldier | May 27, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Well, Soccer Dad, you and your son might want to discuss these talking points: Who benefitted most from the Iraq War? Whenever you want to figure out why someone did something, the best place to start is to follow the money.
If we set aside the desire of the U.S. to end the regime of a “brutal” man (which we can set aside because there are equally “brutal” men in command of regimes around the world for which the U.S. not only does nothing but actually encourages), then you will see that there were two groups who benefitted most directly from the fall of Saddam Hussein. First, Israel because Saddam Hussein was the strongest threat to Israel. Second, Big Oil because the Iraqi oil fields were the only oil fields in the Middle East which were not controlled by Western oil interests. You must also take into account that both invasions of Iraq were done at the behest of two Presidents who represent Big Oil, and were overseen by advisors who were Jewish.
Once you accept this, then go to 911truth.org and study the reports of respected architects and engineers who have placed their reputations on the line to speak out publicly that the Twin Towers could not have been brought down by the two airplanes but, instead, were controlled demolitions. Now, if you believe that the U.S. government would not have deliberately destroyed the Twin Towers, that leaves one group that did have a vested interest in the destruction of the Twin Towers — Israel and, in fact, the most obvious perpetrators of 911 must have been Mossad agents, who are known to have agents within al-Qaeda as well as in the U.S. administration.
You and your son will be forced to admit by logical deduction of the evidence, that Mossad played a key role in 911, and probably had a key influence in the decision to invade Iraq. In other words, the entire 911 tragedy may have been a pretext to go to war with Iraq. This would explain Bush’s withdrawal from Afghanistan after sending troops in to disrupt the Taliban and to reinforce security surrounding the transcontinental oil pipeline.
The Iraq War wasn’t a mistake — if you are Israeli or Big Oil.
Posted by: Jack Bauer | May 27, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
whoever wins this general election and becomes our president will not have an easy time of it. The economy is a major issue, the war needs to be resolved, healthcare…. lots of major problems.
The president, whoever it will be, will have many resources at his (or her) disposal to fully research and come up with an appropriate action/decision. That is why I’d rather vote for someone who is thoughtful, cautious (is that a knee-jerk reaction to the current), can instill hope in all Americans, and can speak across the aisles to reach all members of government.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Chris in Illinois | May 27, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
IndieVisible,
I am sure once we find out everything about Obama you will find that he will make the Clintons look like a choir boy and girl.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Okay J, I’ll give you that. But what is that?? Diplomacy right?? And you haven’t answered my question. Was Reagan wrong to talk to Gorbachev face to face??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
You can have a take..but don’t suck….
Hillary is still the better candidate…to win and to administer the Presidency at this time.
This is an addendum to my…..My post OBAMA CAN LOSE…… but you read my blog : ..http://oheagleeye.blogspot.com….
remember… don’t suck!
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Well, i know the media and press support Barrack Huesein Obama over Hilary Clinton,however if you count Florida and Michigan in Hilary clinton will lead the popular votes there is no doubt about that, and isnt it wonderfull how the African American community have forgotten all the work the Clintons have done for them over the years.
Posted by: c. gamble | May 27, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Hillary is night, Obama-Day. Hillary is rain, Obama-sun. Hillary is fear-Obama is hope. Hillary is lies-Obama the truth. Hillary is racist-Obama is a true Democrat. Hillary is divisive-Obama a uniter. It is simple folks, Hillary is the past in politicians and if America is to survive, it is with the hope that Sen soon to be President Obama provides. God’s speed Sen. Obama!
Posted by: rockychance | May 27, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
A…
Your obviously the peoples choice… You should check your logic!
Posted by: Martin | May 27, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
And to ‘Never Obama’:
Chicago is the only place corruption takes place? HA!
What an arrogant, self-righteous fool you are. You must be one of those ‘wholesome, down-home’ types, right? Yeah, only heathens live in them there big cities, eh?
Posted by: Soldier | May 27, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
I sure am glad that the Wright comments came out later and not sooner. If they would have come out sooner Obama would be losing the nomination. Now the Dems. can lose another one.
But then again, what do you expect from a party that is run by Dean, Reid and Pelosi!
Posted by: cd | May 27, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
She lost. End of story.
No amount of analysis is going to change that fact.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee…why because the media and the Demacratic party is pushing the super delegates to just on the BHO bandwagon, and won’t allow them to make there own choice
Posted by: Frank | May 27, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Obama wants to lead America to its decline.
Hillary or McCain wants America to remain the world’s only super-power.
Obama will allow Iran to go all out to acquire nuclear weapons and turn America into the equal of a lesser nation, like France.
If you think that Obama’s distributive equality plan is a good idea, get ready for Iran to become the dominant power in the Middle East and to shut off America’s access to Middle Eastern Oil whenever its radical Islamic fundamentalist leaders don’t get their way.
Also get ready for massive unemployment, severe inflation, and an economic depression when the next Arab Oil Embargo occurs.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Hey C Gamble. I think its even funnier that the whites who support Clinton now forget Bill only WON the Presidency in 92 because of blacks. The black Community owes the Clintons nothing. They put him in power. He won in 92 with 86% of the black vote, 68% of the latino vote, and guess how much of the white vote?? 39%. So called Reagan Dems have never been loyal to the Dems.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
only in this campaign is someone who ahs no path to victory allowed to stay in the race and complains of unfair treatment, and the media calling it like it is…
I dont understand what the problem is…
No one has forced her out, people have said mathematically it is impossible or close to it…
and it is… and everyday it gets even harder for her to get this nomination
so we are sexist because we can add….
hillary please accept that you lost… it is ok, you will still have a political career, taht is unless you keep shooting your mouth off like you did this weekend
so disgusting
Posted by: bhrandon | May 27, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Fear card: he’ll overturn roe v wade, he’ll ensure that we stay in Iraq for 100 years(even though he’ll only be in office for 4), he’ll insist that gas be raised to $10 per gallon, he’ll club baby seals and kittens on the white house lawn.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
You’re deceitful, angry, bitter people frustrated that America simply doesn’t want Hillary Clinton to lead us. It’s not that she’s a woman- it’s that she’s a terrible candidate.
Posted by: Soldier———-
That’s sort of funny. Half the votes that were cast were for Hillary so your logic is flawed. The popular vote is just about tied.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Martin,,,
Reread and rewrite….we dearly want to understand…your view, cbviously.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Those are facts, Oracle. Clintonistas are not interested in facts.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Boy, you Hillary supporters sure are bitter! But as you watch the last, dying embers of her campaign, try to bear in mind that she started this campaign with more advantages than anyone ever has – and still managed to lose. And she managed to lose to a black man, whose middle name is Hussein, who has only been in the Senate for two year. That actually says more about Hillary’s weaknesses than Obama’s strengths.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
bhrandon, she and her supporters are going through the stages of denial as evidenced in this article. The funny part is most of them don’t even realize that they’re proving this article right.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
You’re right texas voter. Lol. Silly us.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
bhrandon – I have to disagree with you on one point. I think she committed political suicide with the RFK comment. In fact, I think she will have a tough time keeping her Senate seat after that.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
How can we win without the Hillary supporters? Oh we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. We’re too busy getting high on hope and change.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Oracle,
You didn’t directly ask that question. There was work done before Reagan talked to Gorbachev. Gorbachev wasn’t a nut bag like Ahmenijad is.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
The Media gave HIllary the early advantage, calling her the front runner even before a primary was held, how can they do that, so don’t sit there and say she had the advantage, the MEDIA built her up, so the primaries are held and in the beginning, our preacher like speaker BHO enlightened and lifted people, but in the end they are coming to realize that all he is is a great talker and preacher that is why he has lost alot since then, and he will loose in the fall, so superdelegates step up and give hillary the node, besides its the democrates that put forth this policy and rules.
Posted by: Frank | May 27, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Hey J. Right now, go on Newsweek.com and look up the article that says something like “Reagan aides see similarities in Obama” Don’t quote me, but its something like that. Then tell me what you think.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Oracle, do your really believe that China wants to ruin the U.S. Economy?
Why would it want to ruin its biggest trading partner– especially when it benefits economically from doing so?
Communist China is growing, because it embraced capitalism.
However, Obama is a neo-socialist, who believes in the redistribution of wealth through taxation.
This is why Obama sponsored the Global Poverty Act, which will send $845 billion dollars to Africa and third world nations.
It is also why Obama pledged to create and federally fund 20 “promise” neighborhoods in inner-city, African-American communities.
Obama wants to lead America into decline, by making it equal with lesser nations.
Why? Because this is what socialism is all about; that is, not to have any super powers, but for all people and nations to be equals.
To lesser nations, this sounds desirable, but to Americans, it means the end of U.S. global supremecy.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
To ‘J’:
And she got less votes. And saying the ‘popular vote is almost tied’? Horseshoes, buddy. Nice try. You lost and then proved yourselves bitter, terribly frustrated losers. The Clintons did their best, constantly changing the metrics for victory throughout the campaign. Over and over, they said ‘if we get this vote, we win’ and then proceeded to tell the same lies over and over. Then, they blamed ‘sexist media’. And told lies about Bosnian snipers. And cried on command when a primary took place. And constantly played the race card to scare voters in rural white areas into voting for her. She only gets votes when she demeans her opponent. The independant voter would never vote for her after listening to her for years and waking up now going, ‘right! She’s been my candidate all along! I’m just now seeing it!’ She relies on her opponent’s negatives to mitigate her own lack of positives. Good riddance. And all of you threatening to vote for pro-life McCain to overturn Roe V Wade and make Bush’s tax cuts permanent? You’re a bunch of bitter, angry, frustrated, and deceitful people who weren’t voting for Clinton for any other reason than her being a woman. If it were the devil herself, you would have voted her over Obama because you’re tunnel-visioned into getting someone elected purely because of their gender, as if women possess some magical ability to do things men can’t. Back to your holes. No one here wants or needs you to further divide our country. You want to install a pro-life McCain? Go ahead. You’ll have yourselves to blame when the country takes a further nosedive.
Posted by: Soldier | May 27, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Mack – and yet you believe your candidate can still win?!
Pass the douchie pon the left hand side indeed!
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
How do we win without Hillary supporters? Easy, we put Governor Kathleen Sebelius on the ticket as Obama’s veep and run them as the ‘Kansas’ ticket. That gets the midwestern and womens’ vote, after which Hillary becomes just an unpleasant afterthought.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
mack: This is how, we’ll just hope that some(because not all of her supporters are childish)HRC voters will be smart enough to not cut off their noses to spite their face by voting against their best interests. We’ll hope that they will see that voting for McCain or against Obama out of spite will do more than any pundit, or candidate ever could to prove they are “uneducated voters”……..How’s that sound??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Women will flock to McCain, men will flock to McCain, and in a heads up battle, the latest poll has Hillary beating McCain, and McCain betting BHO by 3 pts.
Posted by: Frank | May 27, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
J,
Don’t fool yourself, many men are against her because of her gender. Many women are inherently jealous of a woman..if they dress to nice, if they are proud, if they are more successful than they are.
Gender bias is very prevalent in this choice for a democratic nominee. But do not kid your self Hillary is the better candidate. Just as John Kerry was the better candidate to George Bush.
I am sorry to burst the bubble . Today’s commentary by the Host is about HOPE promised by Obama, but just a few weeks ago it was “change”.
By the general elections it will be “shake rattle and roll” . Or any phrase to sell the story and the gimmick, called Barack Obama.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
I served in Vietnam too, and was decorated as were many others in that last fruitless effort to democratize a people by force. Now we have another one going on. But my military service doesn’t make me a hero any more than it qualifies me to be President.
I have nothing against Senator McCain. I liked him better before he started trying to recast himself as a conservative to appeal to the Republican base. But lets not make more out of his having survived harsh treatment as a POW than it is. Besides, there are other issues on voters’ minds this year. Four more years of Bush tax cuts and laissez-faire fiscal policy will not fix what ails us most.
Remember those now famous words, “It’s the economy, Stupid!”
Posted by: Kent | May 27, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Soldier,
Take a look right here on ABC’s web site. IT shows the votes with and without MI and FL.It’s no blow out for Obama. Half the voters DO want her. Take a look at the electoral maps she is doing much better than Obama.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Remember folks, don’t be fooled, a lot of people here are nothing more than desperate republicans passing themselves off as hillary supporters telling lies and trolling political blogs in order to create dissent among the dems, just ignore them, most of them are the same morons who worship hannity and limbaugh and voted for hillary just to keep the race going.
If hillary were winning right now you’d have the same people saying that they love obama and they’d never vote for that woman for whatever reason, they’re the same racist, misogynistic, puritan hypocrites who want 4 more years of george bush, regardless of the colossal failure of his administration.
Posted by: LA | May 27, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Barack will run on the vision of hope and
McCain will be the fearmonger!!
Posted by: Jamie | May 27, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Righ on Soldier, they don’t want to hear the truth…
Posted by: Frank | May 27, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Jeff – I agree with you on Sebelius. Remember also that she was the Insurance Commissioner in Kansas, and would greatly bolster his healthcare plank, a MAJOR issue in the Fall campaign.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Marine, There are alot of trading partners that China has. I’d rather knock off the top dog then become the country wants to trade with, what about you?? So what makes you think they won’t do this?? Who is our arch-enemy of the 20th century?? Russia, who is Russia’s biggest ally?? China. Who in a way protects Iran, N. Korea, and the Sudan from the international community?? China. So my question is, if they’re not a superpower. Why do we borrow from them and them not from us??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
TexasVoter – I didn’t know Sebelius was also the insurance commissioner. She’s smart, elegant, moderate, and non threatening. I think she’d be an excellent choice for VP.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
The Clintons will be viewed with a degree of ire reserved for the likes of Benedict Arnold and Ralph Nader. Be careful what you wish for – if that happens, the Clintons will be the ones requiring extra Secret Service protection for having helped facilitate another 4 years of war, recession, more GOP supreme court justices, environmental disaster, etc.
Posted by: EddyNewHope | May 27, 2008 11:44:36 AM
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Bill already cost Gore the White House in 2000. If he and Hillary manage to screw this up AGAIN, their legacy would rival only Bush’s
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
I know how people think and yet find myself constantly amazed as the level of stupidity and ignorance repeatedly expressed.
People proclaim they are a democrat and do not want another GWB in the White House yet in the same breath state the stupidest thing possible — if my choice is McCain or Obama, I’ll vote for McCain.
Do you people actually have working brains? Or is it what I fear the most, because someone didn’t tell you what to do or think you just fire off with anything? McCain is another Bush — he as supported his policies since forever. He’s another rich white OLD man who isn’t your peer, isn’t your representative and is looking out for himself. He, like almost every other president that preceeded him hasn’t a clue about how real people (the majority) actually live.
By the time the national election rolls around you are not voting for the person you are voting for the party. Consequently, if you are a democrat and want the democractic party in office you do not pop off and vote for the republic.
Geeze I wish the stupid gene would kill off the shallow end of the gene pool and quickly.
Posted by: Rae | May 27, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
McCain will beat Obama in the General Elections.
Why? Because Mainstream voters in the key states of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania already know that Obama shares Jeremiah Wright’s values, which they reject entirely.
There have been two phases of the Obama Campaign; that is Pre-Jeremiah-gate and Post-Jeremiah-gate.
Obama’s “hope and change” campaign bandwagon rolled during Pre-Jeremiah-gate, but the wheels fell off of Obama’s bandwagon when Jeremiah-gate exploded in the National Media.
If Jeremiah-gate occurred before Super Tuesday, Obama would have been rejected in other states, just like he was in Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
to Mary–you said: The main reason is that more people preferred the other candidate. That isnt necessarily true if you know anything about politics. Remember the 2000 election? The only way to really make that happen is to get rid of the electoral college completely which, in my opinion, is so archaic it is a joke. The reason it was begun in the first place was that the people were so spread out representatives had to travel and vote for them–BASED ON THE POPULAS VOTE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT WAS. That original intent is so far from what we have now, it’s impossible to even relate the two.
Posted by: lee | May 27, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I work in the industry as a broker, and I can tell you she served her state very well in that capacity. Insurance Commissioners talk and compare notes often, and she was very well respected.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
USmarine0331,
The age of America being the only remaining Super Power has diminished. Our military is capable of defeating any foreign enemy but with great military might comes responsibility. This Administration has abused our military, misused our economic resources and discredited this nation’s reputation throughout the world. Our next President will have to restore and repair the damage created in 8 years, thanks to George W. Bush…
US Navy (Ret)
Posted by: Martin | May 27, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
So McCain knows the struggles of real people right I do not think so. He is rich do you think the average America is rich. I do not believ any politican knows the struggles of the average person because to run for president you must have money. Obama is as average as it is going to get people.
Posted by: quisha | May 27, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
There will be only one stage of grief. Vote for McCain.
Posted by: shasta6415 | May 27, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
J…if she is doing so well, then why hasn’t she won all the states? She definately has issues, as does Obama. She is not an overwhelming winner of all the states, as she should be with all her experience. So how do we resolve this? Do we go with Hillary( who says everyones votes count) and delete the caucuses, and give her ALL the votes in FL and MI? This will put her over in popular vote, but not delegates and superdelegates.
She signed an agreement to count all the votes whether caucuses or reg votes. Now she wants to turn it around…Let’s see what happens on June 4th..
Posted by: formerhillary | May 27, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Hope, change and higher taxes is not going to fix the economy.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Marine, and you don’t think Hagee, and Parsley are going to get no press?? Not gonna work this time. Except for the weak minded.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Whoa! Why not have an article on the losing of temper and all of the grimaced faces of Obama? Ths guy is a big phoney, a duper and more importantly, a conspirator against America. Hillary supporters unite! It is not lost, have FAITH!
Posted by: jeep395 | May 27, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
BTW if you all feel so strongly, how many of you have actually emailed the DNC with your opinion?
Posted by: lee | May 27, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Oracle, China does not want to ruin the U.S. Economy for one simple reason; that is, it is China’s best interests to keep things just as they are.
You may think that China is a super power, but it’s economy is less than 1/6th the size of the U.S. economy, and its military spending is 1/5th of the U.S.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
lee – Let me get this straight. Since your candidate lost, your petulant response is to throw out the portion of the Constitution that ensures the small states’ rights are not trampled upon by the large states.
Really?
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Yes, McCain doesn’t understand the struggles of real people. Most real people haven’t been POW’s.
Posted by: Mack | May 27, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Jeff and Frank,
Get into the habit of picking winners.
So we will have two “we- don’t- enough- of- you ” candidates for Pres and Vice. Obama and sebelius ???..that’s smart!
How about ..Hillary / Obama. Or Obama / Hillary… Do you want to bet against those odds?
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
formerHillary,
Where did I say she was the overwhelming winner in these states. I was talking about votes. They are virtually tied. Obama hasn’t had the blowout some people are claiming he does.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
If you are a Hill supporter voting for McCain, you are either voting for Hill cuz she’s a woman, white, Obama’s black, or Bill’s her husband. i say this because she and Obama are 90% the same on policies. Please, I beg any HRC supporters to refute this.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Of course Obama CAN loose and so can Hillary. Look at the shambles her campaign has been. For someone with all this political experience she blew it..Sure she can talk the DNC into nominating her,but are we sure SHE will win..? NOPE..as we know from Gore…anything can happen.
Posted by: truthtell | May 27, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
We the voters want the votes to count. It is a fundamental part of democracy.
Hillary has 17 million voters behind her that want the votes to count.
Posted by: shasta6415 | May 27, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
It is not Hillary Clinton who lost this campaign. To be sure, she did make mistakes, but shall we list all of Obama’s mistakes? The point is, the media (the same media that sold us on George W.) launched a relentless campaign against Hillary, where she could not make a single mistake, while his opponent was given free reign. Remember Obama’s plagiarism “Just words”? What about Obama’s sexist remarks (“sweetie,” “Periodically Sen. Clinton feels down and then she needs to attack in order to like herself”, Obama’s comments about the jacket Hillary wore, to say nothing about criticizing Hillary for having worked as a corporate lawyer for Wallmart, without saying that Michelle Obama retired from a job at one of Wallmart’s main suppliers when Obama decided to run for the presidency, because, said NYT, it was understood that he would criticize Wallmart…)? What about Obama’s voting record (FOR the credit card companies)? What about Obama saying one thing and voting the opposite at the Illinois Legislature? (Five times he did do that with an “Oops! Sorry, I pressed the wrong button by mistake…”) What about Obama saying that he did not know that Rev. Wright said what he said? (For the record, he knew: this is why he would not have Rev. Wright speak publicly when he launched his candidacy.) The record of Obama’s missteps is lengthy, and it is only paralleled by the media chorus singing his praises. Ugh—I’ll be voting for Ralph Nader, I guess. And I do agree with the Sen. Edwards of two months ago, when he said that Obama was both incompetent and hypocritical.
Posted by: zonja47405 | May 27, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
marine. Bottom line. China is an emerging superpower whether you believe it or not. Why do you think gas is so high? Because China has more than doubled their oil consumption in the last 10 yrs. And does it really matter that their economy is 1/6th of ours if we’re in debt to them?? What do you think will happen when we HAVE TO pay them?? Their economy will still be 1/6th of ours??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
J….let’s get real here. Obama came into this race as the underdog. He was the first term Senator who didn’t have a snowball in H$#@ll chance of winning. Now everyone is saying,”poor Hillary, she has been wronged!!” Give me a break!! She is the senior politician, not Obama. She should have stomp on him like a fly…What happened? I don’t know, and I don’t care.
Posted by: formerhillary | May 27, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Oracle, Mainstream American voters already know that Hagee and Parsley were not McCain’s pastors, and they also know that Obama supporters will disingenously claim that they are.
Go ahead and try if you want to.
But Obama spent 20 years listening to Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American and racist sermons.
John McCain briefly met Hagee and Parsley, just like he has briefly met scores of other religious leaders during his campaign.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Also marine, it is projected that in a few yrs China will need around 65% of the WORLDS oil output.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
zonj….for someone who made ALL those mistakes…looks like people still like him…he is winning over HCR…maybe those are people who remember the Clinton years???? And how she conducted herself as First Lady…
Posted by: truthtell | May 27, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
USmarine0331 – You’re right, they weren’t his pastors.
However, he DID actively seek their endorsement. How is that not worse?
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
FormerHillary,
Hmm could it be the lack of the MSM doing its job? Could it be these politicians such as Pelosi, Dean and Reid. Obama has not been held to the same standards as Hillary and to say he has been is ridiculous.
Have you noticed since the Rev. Wright thing she has been winning? How many people now have buyers remorse. Take a look at the electoral maps. She stands a a better chance of beating McCain than Obambi.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I believe Oracle is a plant. Emailing to cause division within the Democrat party. I refuse to believe this IDIOT is a Clinton supporter. Most of what he is spewing is racism and just plain IGNORANCE. Are you a JIM CROW republican?
Posted by: meme | May 27, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Hey zonja,
There are much folks like you living in America. Thanks for telling the truth.
You folks in this blog. Take sometime to smell the real roses and clear your heads.
Let the truth set your rolling smoothly. It may help you understand better what’s ahead… Check my friends and endorsers and you will know who I’m really. signed Obama
:http://oheagleeye.blogspot.com.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Rush Limbaugh has actively started his national radio campaign to ‘convince’ all scorned Hillary supporting women to punish the ‘sexist’ Obama by having them vote for McCain in the national election. Women are so angry and irrational right now- I say that Rush’s new brainwashing movement will work. He’s just loving all this mischief.
Posted by: Lecky | May 27, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Marine you’re right. These people had these comments on record for yrs. And in a political pander McCain sucked up to them to help him out politically. So which was worse?? I would say McCain, because that goes against the so called straight talk express. Honestly i don’t care about either, my pastor has said wild things and who gives a hoot?? But whats good for the goose is good for the Gander. All I’m sayin is you can best believe if Wright comes up, so do Hagee and Parsley. If ayers comes up, so do the Keating 5, and Barbie McLames drug addiction with her husband using her clout to help her beat the charge.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Andy – Hillary is a lost cause. Further, adding her to the ticket would only be dead weight to Obama’s campaign. As evidence, Hillary started this campaign with every possible advantage and still she lost. And that loss wasn’t because of biased media, male sexism, Obama dirty tricks, or her husband’s big mouth. Simply put, Hillary doesn’t appeal to the majority of voters. And she never will. Hillary supporters need to wake up and deal with that reality.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
J…give me a break…again!!! if you think being called N*&^%ger is less hurtful then being called a bitch, then you have no idea of black history. HRC has pinned her campaign the last few months, in the white, lower waged states, on race…just watch some of the interviews. These people fear “the black man”. It is a disgrace!!! and so is she…her desperation is disgusting…
Posted by: formerhillary | May 27, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Lol. You’re right meme. I’m a Obama supporter.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
The day is coming when we can all sing,”Ding Dong the witch is gone!” Barack will crush McSmallBrain in the general election. What is all the hype about! The fear factor will not work this time. Obama’s base is far too educated! All of the dummies are for Team Clunton, and she will be home dealing with her husband’s infidelity. I surely can’t blame him! What an ugly nag.
Posted by: nicky19610 | May 27, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Martin, the only thing that has diminished is America’s will.
America still has the greatest military and economy in the world.
No other nation is close.
America can remain the world’s only super power with the right leadership.
However, Obama is like Jimmy Carter.
Both think that they are so smart, that they can negotiate with America’s enemies to get them to do what they want.
Jimmy Carter was humiliated by Iran.
Obama should not be given the opportunity to be similarly humiliated.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Zonja – you’ve not referred to anything substantive but rather you’ve simply recited all of Hillary’s venial criticisms of Obama (plagiarism? you’re kidding right?). And if Hillary has been held to a higher standard, it is because she proclaimed herself superior to everyone else. I don’t think anyone (except Hillary’s starry-eyed supporters) really believed she was “ready to lead on day one”. But who knew that her leadership, as exemplified by her abysmal campaign, would be this incompetent? Hillary has no one but herself to blame for her loss. Her so-called experience and expertise were a mirage. Better to find that out now, rather than after she stumbles into the Oval Office.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
formerHillary,
I know more about blacks than you think I do…lol. You know nothing about me. The only disgusting thing I see here is people like you and your one sided view of things. Hillary and Bill have done quite a bit for the black community over the years. But none of that means anything now that we have a black candidate who is half white running.
Obama has played the race card, maybe not directly but he has. His subordinates do his dirty work for him then he turns around and acts like he is above the fray.
Whatever,he won’t win the GE anyway.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Are you black J??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Obama: No way, no how. It is unAmerican.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Just curious, cuz I don’t know how any man thats not black can say, “I know blacks”.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
HRC supports are just venting on Obama because their little “sugar girl” lost! They would vent and make up B.S. on anyone who was beating HRC. It just happens to be Obama. HRC folks are just delusional and pissed off about the LOSS, they just won’t get OVER It!!! Face the facts and be mature about it and MOVE ON!
Posted by: Pete Rend | May 27, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Oracle, China is emerging, but it has a long way to go before it can match America’s military and economic might.
Don’t take my word for it, check out those internet websites I posted earlier.
They confirm what I said.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
J – How has Obama played the race card? I challenge you to point to one example where he has used the issue of race to beat down his opponents. On the other hand, Hillary has done just that, blatantly, and with some success. But she’s dragged her campaign completely into the gutter as a result. Her supporters call her ‘pugnacious’ for doing so. But the rest of us view it as being unprincipled.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Matt:
Do you really think that Hillary is such a nice and weak person enough to grieve over her loss?
As for your comment, she is “…tired, slightly desperate and going through the stages of grief from a lost dream.”
To me, she seems to get sad because her fantasy of “the unexpected event” will not happen within a week.
So, her choice? She will not give up. I think she is planting the Hillarian seeds to re-run, yet we do not know when it will be.
Posted by: JM | May 27, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Propaganda, plain and simple. Seven steps of grief. Good Grief! Matthew Dowd, this is garbage, you are psychoanalyzing Hillary. You are just trying to discourage people from voting.
Let the people vote for God’s sake! No wonder Bill Clinton told you all off.
Wake up America and asks yourselves if it’s over, why isn’t it over? Obama is still running isn’t he?
Posted by: John | May 27, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Okay marine. And you STILL haven’t answered why we borrow trillions of dollars off of them to buy our oil.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
The popular vote supports Hillary and choosing Obama to represent the Democratic party is a collective suicide on the part of the party. It’s just like the whole party choosing to jump of a cliff because they are too scared to do what is right.
The so-called blue-color uneducated voters who do not support Obama are smarter than the elite. They realize that Obama does not represent their values and that his choices on all counts (friends and policy) are not tenable and are detrimental to the interests of the US.
If Obama is, indeed, selected to represent the Democratic party, I (together with over 50% of Hillary’s supporters) will be voting McCain. This will guarantee that the Republicans will stay in office for another 4 years (or more), which I consider a better outcome than having Obama at the helm.
And by the way, contrary to stereotype, I am not uneducated, a low earner or old…I am a forty year old female with a PhD and nice income.
Posted by: Linda Ross | May 27, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Vote American. Not Obama.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Psst. John. It’s over.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Jeff,
Personally you have not being very attentive to the facts or the news.
How many Americans voted for Hillary? and How many Voted for Obama?
Obama cannot defeat Mc Lame (Cain) by himself. He has no choice but to include Hillary as his Vice. If he chooses antbody else, not even MSNBC and Keith Olbermann or MoveOn .Org can help him.
That’s just the way it is.
Whenever you can, go to AOL.COM and view their daily poll. See how many states support Obama. Then come back to this blog and report, the truth.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
US marine said:
Obama spent 20 years listening to Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American and racist sermons.
*******
WHO in the world said REv Wright said racist things for 20 years?? No one! You are taking a 35 second sound bite from a career of 35 years.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Pete Rend, many Hillary supporters are ready to move on– move on to vote for John McCain that is.
Say whatever you want, but Obama has two major problems to deal with.
First, Obama has to deal with angry Hillary supporters, who will either stay home or vote for John McCain on Election Day.
Second, Obama has to resolve the problem of trying to persuade Mainstream American voters that he really doesn’t share Jeremiah Wright’s radical anti-American and racist views, even though he admits that he followed Jeremiah Wright for the last 20 years.
Actions speak louder than words, especially when the words are recent and the actions repeat themselves time and again over a span of 20 years.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Barr: yes
Clinton: yes
Paul: yes
McCain: yes
Nader: yes
Soetoro: no
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
You guys are still talking about Jeremiah Wright? Doesn’t McCain have a pastor who said that ‘Hitler was doing God’s word’?
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Linda, you can do what you want. However, since Obama and Hillary have VERY SIMILAR stands on the ISSUES, you can not state that one has more of a pull with the uneducated blue collar workers. They both will do the exact same things once in office.
Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 27, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
anyone who follows the nonsensical suggestions of Rush Limbaugh deserves whatever he/she gets…
Posted by: Shalom | May 27, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Just because a person is white, does not mean they do not understand the black community. There are some of us that are not close minded and do educate ourselves on different cultures and ethnicities.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Andy – check the latest Gallup poll. Obama is the clear choice among Democrats. http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08dem.htm
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Jeff, to be fair, Hagee is not McCain’s pastor.
He did, however, actively seek his endorsement, something that is much, MUCH worse.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Isn’t is wonderful that we have the freedom of speech? Everyone has their own opinion and the right to speak it. The only thing that bothers me is the Obama says he is African-American (black) but yet he is not. He is of mixed race…white mother…black father…but he denies his white heritage. That should speak for itself right there. Why does he disclaim his mothers heritage and not his father? Because she dumped him on his white grandparents to raise? But his father dumped him too! I’m sorry…I cannot vote for a person that denies their heritage like he does. Plus, was he born in Africa? Just because his father was Kenyan does not make him Kenyan. It makes him of Kenyan heritage. No more, no less.
Posted by: LeanEitherWay | May 27, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Isn’t is wonderful that we have the freedom of speech? Everyone has their own opinion and the right to speak it. The only thing that bothers me is the Obama says he is African-American (black) but yet he is not. He is of mixed race…white mother…black father…but he denies his white heritage. That should speak for itself right there. Why does he disclaim his mothers heritage and not his father? Because she dumped him on his white grandparents to raise? But his father dumped him too! I’m sorry…I cannot vote for a person that denies their heritage like he does. Plus, was he born in Africa? Just because his father was Kenyan does not make him Kenyan. It makes him of Kenyan heritage. No more, no less.
Posted by: LeanEitherWay | May 27, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Texan Voter,
It ain’t over till the fat woman in the pants suit says so. Or the convention , in August say so.
Puerto Rico will have their vote and say , en espanol.
Which is also a language of the USA.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Lecky, you are right. I heard Rush on his radio show LAUGHING about us Democrats and saying his “Operation Chaos” is a success and that his listeners should keep on being good soldiers and doing what they can to help divide the Democrats. I would imagine LOTS of the postings on the ABC sites are from Rush “soldiers” on the “battlefield” of shaping public opinion.
Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 27, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
TexasVoter – I stand corrected.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Obama = hateful
hateful = Obama
Obama = nonsense
nonsense = Obama
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Matt Dowd great piece; I actually watched your interview on ABC where you tried to distinguish between the ‘Hope’ and ‘Fear’ campaigns and at the end of it; we all know who won.
Posted by: Paulo Tergat | May 27, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Funny how you moronic Clinton supporters did not care about Florida and Michigan until it allowed you to ‘win’ the popular vote. Obama was not even on the ballot in Michigan! You honestly think it is fair to say Hillary won a state where she was the only major Dem on the ballot?! You guys are pathetic. I now see what the right has been saying about the Clinton ‘family’ for so long. They already shamed the White House once, NEVER AGAIN! Get your heads out of the sand and out of your @$$. It’s over. Obama will be the nominee.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Andy – Oh, it’s over. It was over after Texas and Ohio.
That’s just the way it is.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Limbaugh’s soldiers tend to be soft-headed, as exemplified by the fact that they would march out to do the bidding of a loony, raging drug addict.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
On the grounds of simply stating how you see things, this was one of the better pieces I have read in months. Anyone who took offense on their candidate’s behalf is a prime reflection of the disconnect, as you stated, between hopes and fear. My question is…can someone tell me when this country slid into this anti-social decline so deeply that we have to display so much hate for an opponent or someone with a differing opinion? Isn’t it that freedom of expression and a ‘there is room for all’ attitude that our founders fought and died for? It is this destructive drive to only feel accomplishment if the opponent is crushed and degraded that will always foster ill feelings and never allow us to grow, even in differences, together.
Posted by: MrMajek | May 27, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Now I’m confused. I’m in michigan. We knew what the rules were. We decided to jump the gun (though I agree that Iowa and New Hampshire shouldn’t be first) and now we’re paying for it. WE voters did nothing wrong, it was the planners of MI and FL that moved our primaries. I do agree that we should have some form of punishment (IE Strip us of half our delegates), but I’d say All is too much. I’d agree with MR Obama on one aspect of the MI/FL debacle, the rules stated we weren’t going to be counted back then, so why would anyone come here in the primaries? Let’s change the rules for next time and take our lumps now and vote again in the general election.
Posted by: ray | May 27, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
You should vote your state and local democratic robots out of office in MI. It’s obvious that their worthless hacks.
Posted by: A | May 27, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Can someone please get Soetoro his Prozac? He’s like the slow kid at a family reunion that keeps piping up stuff that has nothing to do with the conversation.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Jmc663, the day Barack Obama first showed up in the office of Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., more than 20 years ago, the pastor warned him that getting involved with Trinity United Church of Christ might not be “a feather in your cap.”
“Some of my fellow clergy don’t appreciate what we’re about,” Wright told him that day, as Obama would later recount it. “They feel like we’re too radical…
Jeremiah Wright has been preaching black liberation theology for decades, which vilifies America as a racist nation that oppresses African-Americans.
You can spin it anyway that you want to, but Obama followed Jeremiah Wright for 20 years, because he shared Jeremiah Wright’s radical views, and since he liked what he heard.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Obama is arrogant, indifferent and Islamic.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Didn’t everyone learn in Kindergarten that name calling is not nice?
Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 27, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
No Jeff,
But it is over, you don’t the semi -final and get the Gold medal. You see, the democratic nomimee has to be good enough to whup McLame behind…amongst skeptical voters. ( and they are a big group.)
If its over, then that ‘s not good for the progress of this nation…My man.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
MrMajek – two things: First, political contests took on this nasty spin, as I understand it, with the Nixon campaigns. The republicans have followed his example ever since. They tend to win by sowing the seeds of fear and resentment. The other thing to remember is that both parties are actually very centrist and, as a result, have very similar in their agenda. It is said that when political opponents have essentially the same political ideas, they distinguish themselves by emphasizing their cultural differences instead. Doing so always leads to especially nasty types of conflicts.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
You say that J, and you probably in the same breath would say that Obama believes everything Jeremiah Wright said. So that would be proof you DON’T know us as much as you would love to tell yourself that.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Soetoro No, if such a nice Christian man is arrogant, indifferent and Islamic, then what are you? I, myself, have many friends and some of them are Muslim. We’ve been friends over 30 years now, and the fact I’m Jewish hasn’t affected anything. We even compare the Koran with the Old Testament (Holy Scriptures) and discuss them. However, I’m sorry to say that Obama is not, unfortunately, Islamic or Jewish. He is a Christian. Poor guy. I guess he needs people like you to paint him a different color. Hahahahahahaa. You’re so funny!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 27, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Andy – You also don’t score 4 runs in the bottom of the 9th inning in a game you’re losing 20-4 and win.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Obama shares Jeremiah Wright’s black liberation theology views.
Without question, Obama will bring change to America– socialist change.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Obama for president
Sinclair for vice-president
Lovers both.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Andy, Kathleen Sebelius will get the woman who want to see a woman President.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Hope Vs Fear
Act I Scene I
‘Fear’: We wont vote Obama we will sabotage the Dem ticket by voting for McCain if Obama is nominated.
‘Hope’: lets all come together and unify as a party. There will always be losers and winners in any race.
‘Fear’: Your candidate is inexperienced, he may be assasinated, he doesnt relate well with white voters, he offers nothing but speeches, he is naive, he wants to negotiate with the terrorists, we will storm the DNC we want this taken all the way to the convention as you have robbed our nominee of a clear victory.
‘Hope’: We must reach a compromise on the disputed MI and FL delagates; however irrational it may sound-Its for the good of party unity and our democracy as a whole.
‘Fear’:Our nominee has lost the race because of sexist sentiments; the media is to blame; no, the Obama campaign, and his surrogates, no actually its the pro obama bloggers. We’d rather vote for McCain a conservative, we dont care! Barrack is a muslim anyway, oh no he attended some church for 20 years, guess that makes him a Chrislim/Mustian.
‘Hope’: We have won more primaries, more caucases (by far) and more delegates. Perverting the popular votee count does not help anyone but tear the party down. We have energized millions of young and first time voters (this writer included).
‘Fear’: We dont care; We demand that Hillary be offered at least the VP slot or else….
Fear will keep fighting till it punches itself in the face -TS Writer
Posted by: Paulo Tergat | May 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Michelle parrots Wright while Barack sleeps through sermon and misses the hatred.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Oracle,
I have been to black churches, and yes more than once and no they aren’t all as radical as this one. It is his right to go to whatever church he likes. I personally could care less what Obama does.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Matthew Dowd has written a very interesting article, and I agree with most of his views.
I have often said that the difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans operate in a state of fear – fear of those who are different from them and/or fear that by giving other people something, (example higher minimum wage limit or the legal right to marry to gays,) it will take something from them.
I don’t think this is generally true for Clinton supporters, but it does seem that perhaps they fear change. Clinton is a known product while Obama equates to taking a chance, as in the case of John Kennedy?
Posted by: raflin1 | May 27, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
which vilifies America as a racist nation that oppresses African-Americans.
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And you actually BELIEVE that’s not true?
I am a white middle aged woman and even I can say that.
After watching all this for the last 15 months, can you HONESTLY say racism is DEAD in America??? You, personally have shown how alive and well it is.
You have the NERVE to complain about Michelle Obama’s comments that America can be mean. Then BE MEAN!!
You have proven their points over and over and over and over, yet still vilify it!
Take a good look at yourself. Maybe you are angry because they hit too close to home!!
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
You seem to be a level headed man then, J.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Check out how Obama describes his views:
From Dreams of My Father: “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”
From Dreams of My Father: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race.”
From Dreams of My Father: “There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”
From Dreams of My Father: “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”
From Dreams of My Father: “I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.”
From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Of course, Obama will now say whatever he thinks will get him elected, but now you know how he really feels about white Americans and Muslims.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Lol. Soetoro, do you have anything smart to say?? Anything of substance at least??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Obama is for changing direction yet he is obviously lost.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Earl – you are full of crap. I was a loyal Republican until this year as were many others. I voted for Hillary and planned to vote for her in the GE. If she isn’t the nominee, I will return to the Republican Party. I’ve found there is no loyalty among the Dems. Hillary has been treated like she is a woman. I don’t think it will ever change. I was in the work place for 49 years and never once did I see a woman advance in rank over a man. So why shouldn’t women stick together. Not my reason for voting for her, I don’t think Obama is trustworthy. Too young and immature for the position of President of the United States. Go Hillary or McCain!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: C Good | May 27, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Texan Voter,
Not every game has the rules governing end of play. In Cricket, one shot can give you 6 runs, if you are down by 5.
However, winning the democratic nomination is the easy part,ask John Kerry.
Hillary’s Campaign was not created only to win the semi final..but the Final. That’s why she won so many primaries. And Obama won the jacked up caususes with college kids from out of state showing their hands.
So Obama has to win the final that he is not ready to compete in.
Whereas Hillary was careful to “kill two birds with one campaign”…
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
USmarine – does it bother you that George Bush, aided by the votes of John McCain and Hillary Clinton, has now killed more Americans than Osama bin Laden? It should.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
US marine you are a buffoon; true of Hillary’s supporters, you are taking out extracts from someone’s autobiography as if you are sherlock homes. This fear campaign manifests itself through such nitwits; but youre all just proving how much of sore losers you all are. Small Obama outsmarted all of you! Deal with it.
Posted by: JC Crew | May 27, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Obama: “present”.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Oracle – Obviously the trichtophen and prozac haven’t taken hold yet.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Andy – Hillary’s campaign strategy was based on presumption and smugness. The voters immediately recognized that and penalized her accordingly.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
You seem to be a level headed man then, J.
Posted by: The Oracle———-
Too bad I am a woman :)
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Jeff, does it bother you to tell a bold-face lie?
Bush did not kill any Americans.
Muslims did.
Does it also bother you that the Federal Government has made guaranteeing America’s access to Middle Eastern Oil a national security interest?
If so, are you ready to start riding to work on a bicycle, or trading your air conditioner for a hand fan?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Andy – You’re now taking issue with my baseball analogy and saying it should be Cricket??!!!
AAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
(breathe)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Obama supporters
Have any of you asked yourself why a media commentator who was instrumental in re-electing George W. in 2004 is so ready to push Clinton out of this race? Or are you just so happy to have someone confirm your own desires without considering why a Republican would think the Democratic candidate has to be Obama at this point… after Wright, sweetie, it was not me, it was someone else low down in my campaign, even though I received the best education money can buy in this country I’m only now finally proud now etc. (and probably more to come?)
Has it ever crossed your mind that some of us who support Clinton do so because we want the Democrats to win and figure that now that Obama is actually being vetted (only after most of the primaries are over)there are plenty of people who are having second thoughts who will give a good hard look to war hero maverick John McCain who every now and then has gone off the Republican reservation to talk common sense?
I want to win. With barely two years in the Senate, most of that spent running for President, and no significant track record besides being added onto bills to pad his resume, I don’t know how Obama will weather the storm. I don’t want the Dems to lose in November, when it all counts.
Posted by: lw | May 27, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Obama: “I never had sex with that man”.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 27, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
JC Crew, I see that you are upset.
Finding out that your messiah is a racist has caused you to emotionally melt-down.
LOL
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Is it just me or does anyone out there think Chelsea looks like a rabbit.
Posted by: Mickey Mouse | May 27, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
My fault J, a levelheaded woman.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Don’t worry texan, someone will wheel him/her away in a straight jacket soon
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Obama admits to abusing illegal cocaine.
He is unusually skinny for his age.
Did Obama ever admit to going to rehab?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Mickey Mouse,
It’s just you. I think she is an attractive young lady.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
USmarine – Muslims would not have had the chance to kill so many Americans if not for Bush’s incompetence. It was his administration’s incompetence that allowed 19 hijackers to kill 3,000 of us on Sept 11. Had Bush not been asleep (or drunk) at the wheel, that wouldn’t have happened. And to compound his abysmal record, he then initiated a war that, true to form, was badly planned and poorly managed. Bush’s incompetence is the greatest threat to America, not any muslims.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Yep this is propaganda of hate. Another FOX pundit is on record for saying Obama should be assasinated: Lisa Trotta said this over the weekend. Pure hate. Thats what these people are all about. We dont need their votes. Fear and Hate, like good ol’ ‘Waste Virginians’..
Posted by: Doctor Beat | May 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
LW, you mean kinda like Rush getting people to vote for Clinton?? Or maybe the best joke I’ve heard in my life. Clinton:”karl Rove says I win in a GE against McCain.” Isn’t that the architect of BOTH GWB’s terms??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
C Good, you sound just like a Rush dittohead, a Limbaugh person. Maybe Rush is right about women, and how they will react. Rush supported Hillary’s bid to the very end. Heaven help us, let the Rush gloating begin.
Posted by: Lecky | May 27, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
mickeymouse – That’s not nice. Chelsea seems like a good kid and you should leave her out of this.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
i wonder if obama has his muslin pin on!!!!!!!
Posted by: delite820 | May 27, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Jeff, so what are you really saying?
Are you saying that the U.S. should not be trying to guaranee its access to Middle Eastern oil, and that it should allow Iran to become the dominant power in the Middle East?
If so, are you also ready massive unemployment, severe inflation, and economic depression in the U.S. when Iran cuts off America’s access to Middle Eastern oil?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Being muslim isn’t a bad thing. Anti-muslim sentiment is just another form of racism.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
USmarine – that is backwards thinking. Looking forward, oil supplies will ultimately become a depleted resource. A forward thinking politician would be looking to move our economy towards renewable energies. That would create new industries, new jobs, and preserve the environment. Pity that the Bush administration is so backwards.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
usmarine,
When was the time you were REALLY proud of this country?
And don’t give me any 4th grade, 4th of July, flag waving “because I’m Free” rally speech.
Be specific.
Give me an event that our Country came together and made you REALLY proud to be American.
It can involve killing anybody.
A foreign policy that made you REALLY proud of your Government?
Because it’s been a REALLY, REALLY long time since I’ve been REALLY proud of MY country.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Jeff – well said. The future is not oil. In fact, scientist agree that we have already seen the peak of production.
Oil reserves are not infinite, and with China’s power needs growing at an accelerated pace, it behooves us to develop other energy sources to replace petroleum.
The time is now, and Obama realizes that.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Muslim is just a religion. Not different than being Catholic or Hindu or Buddist.
There are fanatics in every religion. Spanish Inquistion, anyone?
It seems that this “Muslim Fear” today is like the “Jewish Fear” in early America. It’s really sad. The Muslim religion consider Jesus to be a great and important Apostle.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Oracle
You are clearly buying into the Rush ego trip. Analysts have determined his supporters have had no impact on primary results. That is probably because of all the Republicans who showed up to vote for Obama because, one, they hate the Clintons for beating them twice, and, two, they figure Obama is going to be easier to beat than Clinton.
Posted by: lw | May 27, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Jeff, America is trying to develop alternative energy through bio-fuels, coal gasification, nuclear power, wind turbines, solar power, hydrogen energy, and other energy sources.
However, the truth is these alternative energy sources only help reduce our oil dependence by a small fraction.
Also, bio-fuel production has triggered inflated prices of food items, both in the U.S. and abroad.
The Middle East has 55 percent of the world’s oil reserves and 32 percent of its natural gas reserves.
America’s national economy is dependent on oil, and 2/3rd of all oil that is consumed in the U.S. is imported.
If Iran gains control of the Middle East, radical Muslim fundamentalists can cause the economic collapse of America by imposing another Arab Oil Embargo whenever they choose to do so.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Solution: Get your Absentee Ballot and Vote Right Now! Then it will be all over, but the crying…..LOL
Posted by: American Patriot | May 27, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Jmc663, I’ve been proud of America all of my life.
But if you want a date, where all Americans were justifiably proud of our country, try July 20, 1969.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
yeah Clintonites..get ur absentee ballots or register as repukes..please. NOW
Posted by: molly | May 27, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
USmarine0331 – with a dwindling supply, the price of oil will only keep going up. It doesn’t matter what Iran does or does not do. It’s simple economics.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Texas Voter, America is dependent on oil now.
Experts theorize that the world’s oil reserves will be exhausted in “100 years”.
Does this ring a bell?
Perhaps, you can guess why U.S. troops will probably be in the Middle East for the next 100 years.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
You may wonder why these people are on a hate diarrhoea. Just get your absentee ballots in as American Patriot put it.
Posted by: Melinda Hawkins | May 27, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
USmarine – I don’t disagree with any of your points. The fact that America’s economy can potentially be held hostage by Islamic terrorists (or Hugo Chavez, growing Chinese oil use, the loss of a carrier battle group to terrorist attack, etc) only reinforces the idea that America should look to wean itself from oil altogether. And in doing so, we would stop exporting hundreds of billions of dollars, while creating new industries at home and energy efficient exports that would further improve our trade balance. A perfect example is the development of hybrid vehicles. If we power our cars with something other than gas, we can cut our oil consumption by more than fifty percent. Doing so would eliminate any threat to our energy supplies. Obama understands that (as did Al Gore before him), Bush doesn’t.
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Texas Voter, the issue is not whether America can keep the price of oil from rising, but whether it can guarantee its access to Middle Eastern Oil.
Are you trying to argue that America should let Iran take control of the Middle East?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
USmarine0331 – I agree with your last post.
I dare say it was not only Americans that were proud of that moment.
I was only 2.5 years old, so I don’t remember it, but I can tell you I was mesmerized by the later Apollo missions.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
TexanVoter,
Where in that piece did it suggest , taking issue with one of my fav. sports?
I simply said..slowly now ..that there aare many game ending scenarios besides..the one you gave for baseball.
Now exhale…that’s all it said.
Depending on how much I am down by , and depending on the game… I may still have a chance… to win…yup..that was it. capice..comprende…do you get it now?? A little difficult ..eh? Cricket is just another ‘bat and ball’ game.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Chelsea looks like a lost Bunny. In 5 years she’ll be lying about affairs, sniper fire etc just like Mom and Dad.
Posted by: WootHouse | May 27, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
USmarine0331 – Not at all. The region is vital to our national interests. I merely point out that Energy concerns will begin to press upon the economy acutely and will not ease regardless of who is in control of the region. Again, oil is a dwindling resource. That is a fact. That is why America should step up efforts to find alternative fuel sources.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Hey Andy. What’s 2+2?
Take your time now……
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
And we will deal with the smart Obama by voting for Mr. McCain.
Posted by: Janna | May 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Jeff, I’m a Hillary supporter, not a Bush supporter, and I am in total agreement that America needs to wean itself off of its dependency on imported oil.
However, Obama wants to give up on Iraq, even though the U.S. is on the verge of stabilizing it.
If Obama does so, Iran will control Iraq and become the dominant power in the Middle East.
Iran will also go all out to acquire nuclear weapons during an Obama presidency.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I feel a bit for Hillary, because in a way my sense is that the people around her are as emotionally connected as she is to this campaign. Obviously epecially her husband, but her advisors as well seem to have an unusually large amount of commitment to what is increasingly becoming the dream. But I think she must realise that in all but name this campaign is over. Even with the Florida and Michigan delegations factored in, as voted for, I think I am right in saying that Clinton would still trail Obama by 100 delegates or so. Superdelegates are not going to over turn the will of the voters, as expressed by the elected delegates, however Hillary wants to argue the popular vote (Which given the complicated rules of the primaries and caucuses seems to me to be a fairly meaningless measure). In my view she would be better going back to the Senate and becoming the ‘Lioness of the Senate’ now that the curtain seems to be dropping on Ted Kennedy’s career.
Posted by: markymark | May 27, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Texan.. you are feeling a little silly now?
I know it is silly season. So we will overlook it this time.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
USmarine,
Sorry, you must be a little older than me, LOL! I was born in 1963. Michelle Obama said specifically in her ADULT life and that is what I am refering.
There has not been a lot to be REALLY proud of in the last 20+ years.
When the U.S. Hockey Team beat the Russians in the Olympics was pretty cool and I was REALLY proud of the team.
But this country can be mean. We are mean to anyone who doesn’t look like us, or talk like us. WE can be very loving and open, but we can also be very mean and fearful.
It’s an ugly truth, but sometimes the truth hurts.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
We have lost. We are broke. And now we are bitter and spewing hate. We couldnt even beat Obama at a simple game of caucases- We lost (17-2), In the end he will be up in primaries if he sews up SD and MT. Now that should say alot about us. I cant take the humiliation we are getting from Obamabots simply for being disorganized and for underestimating the campaign. I was in NM, CA, NV, The Potomacs and OR, and I’m tired!
Time to go home. I’ll see whether I’ll vote or not.
Posted by: Hillary Supporter #1 | May 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
2+2, Andy. Sound it out with your fingers if you need to.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I just finished listening to Rush and he is HOT.Operation Chaos is a DISASTER. He thiks Hillary really blew it with that “assanation” comment. To those of you that don’t know, Operation Chaos’ intent was to get repubs. to vote for HILLARY not Obama, keep her in the race and eventually get her the nomination. Rush believes that McCain will stand a better chance against Hillary because of the repubs. that will come out to vote against the Clinton name.
The bottom line is that OC is a BUST. Whenever I listen to Rush and he is upset……I know everything is going ok for the Obama campaign.
OBAMA 08……YES WE WILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: sonny | May 27, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
It is time for sen. Clinton to follow the footstep of sen. Liebermann to continue the presidential race as an independent.
According to the latest best educated prediction by electoral-vote.com, sen. Clinton can beat McCain better than Obama in the general election, i.e. 327 to 194 if Clinton vs. McCain, and 266 to 246 if Obama vs. McCain
In particular, sen. Clinton is superior in the following key states:
Clinton vs. McCain Obama vs. McCain
_______________ _______________
Florida 47 / 41 40 / 50
Penn. 50 / 39 45 / 43
W. Va 47 /42 35 / 53
N. Carolina 49 / 43 43 / 51
Posted by: austin | May 27, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
In my view she would be better going back to the Senate and becoming the ‘Lioness of the Senate’ now that the curtain seems to be dropping on Ted Kennedy’s career.
Posted by: markymark | May 27, 2008 2:22:39 PM
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I would personally LOVE to see HRC as Secretary of State ala Madeline Albright. I think she would be back a HUGE amount of credibility to America’s Foreigh Policy. She is just the kind of no BS “broad” we need in the State Dept. I think she would be AMAZING in that role. I know she really wants to be POTUS, but I think she would have an even greater impact on this world as a whole in that role.
She has that great “Iron Lady” Margaret Thatcher thing going on and she has a lot of clout with foreign leaders to begin with.
She would make Condi Rice look like an amatuer.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
austin – She’s dead politically after the RFK comment. Dead in the water.
Your numbers mean nothing.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Jmc663, what about the collapse of the former Soviet Union and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall?
when Russians were tearing down the statutes of Lenin and Hammer and Sickle monuments, America won the Cold War and emerged victorious as the only super-power on the planet.
Michelle Obama was 25 years old.
Why wasn’t she proud of America then?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Dear Hillary Supporters;
I’m familiar with some of you and those of you that I may have not had the priviledge to meet; It was a pleasure. We did great; we ran against a campaign that outraised us for 6 months straight and spent more; yet we came out with key victories. They branded themselves as the underdogs but indeed had a foot in ahead in most of the races. We tried to connect with the people and reach out to all demographics. In the end we still did not do well enough.
The past weekend has dawned a new reality for me. That dragging this on will cause us more hamr than good. And I respectfuly throw in the towel. I will vote whoever the democratic nominee will be; still hoping that it may be Hillary. But most of all we have made history, and we had a good run-lets not ruin this as it will go down in history as the most competitive of all primaries-Its as though we were actually running for presidency not the nomination.
Thank you all.
Posted by: We Came A Long way | May 27, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
What about Desert Storm?
Why wasn’t Michelle Obama proud of how effectively the U.S. Military rescued Kuwait from being conquered by invading Iraqi forces?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Texanvoter,
I am ashamed to see you are susceptible to misinformation. Comprehension is critical to reading and understanding.
Explanation is important in helping to gain another level of understanding.
You heard the twisted version of the misinformation, as to the RFK reference.
If you did not understand the explanation, say so. But do not in desperation try to use it as if there was NO satisfactory explanation and clarification of the statemant. Be civil at all times.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
No matter what pundits claim.
The super delegates will still decide who will be the Democratic presidential nominee in November.
The truth is Jeremiah Wright has severely harmed Obama’s chances of winning on Election Day.
Current polls show that Clinton will beat McCain, but McCain will beat Obama.
Puerto Rico will send another clear message to the super delegates, like Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky that Jeremiah Wright has made Obama unelectable.
The super delegates should vote for the candidate that is most likely to win the majority of electoral college votes on Election Day, and that candidate is Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
McSame, excuse me McCain has already given us his outlook on the economic picture of America after four years in office.
Iraq and Afghanistan policing will continue at our cost of Billions of dollars and over additional four year period the cost would be Trillions. He like Bush will tell you the economy is strong as they fail to see or truly understand our pain of a faltering economy.
Ask him why he is willing to vote against the GI bill, yet continue to send our young men and women to WAR what is that all about. Our service men and women are asked to do the biggest of jobs for the least financial awards. But to give them better education is too much McCain I missed the reason behind that.
If you want to continue in this direction you know what to do.
If you want a new direction and we must turn this nation around we must together give the Democrats the opportunity to right the ship
Posted by: lyatesnj53 | May 27, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Desert Storm? Yes, our fighting men and women were excellent. However it’s hard to be proud when you defeat the madman you helped create. Reagan and Bush sold biological seed stock and weapons to Saddam. They messed up big time. Another foreign policy blunder from the republicans.
Posted by: get real | May 27, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
USmarine
we have separation of Church and State. I don’t know exactly how all this crap got started in the first place. I don’t not care about Rev. Wright or Hagee, etc. I care about the ideals. HRC and Obama are 98% of them. Period.
Posted by: jmc663 | May 27, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Andy – You still haven’t answered the question, but I guess I’ll have to let it pass since math is obviously not your strong suit (It’s not Hillary’s either, evidenced by her numerous equations.
Having said that aside, I find it offensive and repulsive that anyone can back a candidate that openly stated she could benefit from political assassination.
That was not a misstatement. That was not a surrogate off the reservation. That wasn’t even her increasingly delusional husband. It was her, and only her.
Oh, and she STILL has not apologized for the worst political comment uttered in American presidential politics.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Jmc663, the problem with Jeremiah-gate has nothing to do with the separation of Church and State, but rather by the reasonable conclusion that Obama shares the radical views of Jeremiah Wright.
It also shows Obama’s poor judgment.
It took Obama more than 20 years to figure out that Jeremiah Wright’s comments were too outrageous for Mainstream Americans to accept.
It took most Mainstream Americans about 30 seconds to reach the same conclusion.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
USmarine0331 – jmc663 is correct, in my opinion. Those peripheral issues, like Hagee and Parlsey are not even secondary like issues like the economy, healthcare and foreign relations.
I don’t see an advantage to either side by bringing them up, so why not discuss issues that are actually important?
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Obama has shown by his campaign alone that he is vastly more qualified to be President. He has stayed on the high road and still stands tall. After all of the dirt and mud the Clintons have thrown you’d think they would have taken him down. And where is Hillary today? Still pandering to the folks in the remaining states and playing to their fears. She’s 20 million in debt, still spinning lies to make herself seem viable and blaming everyone but herself for her situation. Not the kind of person I want running the country.
Posted by: 678dem | May 27, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
You Clinton supporters are sucking up all of the diapers, bottles, baby wipes, and strained peas.
I mean, can the babies eat…D@MN ?!?!?!??!?!?
Posted by: Order | May 27, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Barack: These are (27) Clinton Associated, Afilliated and-or Closely Related Clinton Cases, that should Not be overlooked nor Ignored.
David Gergen appearing on CNN, said Several Weeks ago, “That You had better Hire an Official Food Taster” Those are Words to Live by, but then again, Why go through the Rigors, by having Her, as your Running Mate.
1. James McDougal – Clinton ‘s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster – Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock ‘s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7-Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to
9-James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10-James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.
13-Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton ‘s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober – Clinton ‘s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation
18- Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton ‘s mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
Posted by: o. | May 27, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Hey, “O,”, is that O for Oliver—Stone, that is? You are one heck of a conspriracy theorist. I wonder what the Clintons had to do with the sinking of the Titanic? Something, I’m sure.
Posted by: Marty | May 27, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
This is a reporter who openly advocates for Obama. I don’t trust one word you are talking out of your mouth. Will never vote for Obama, and six of my friends will not either!
Posted by: Amy | May 27, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
o.
unfortunately, your long list is only old news and rummors. Check any respected websties and any newspaper, those old stroies are just too old to get people’s attention. 60 million dollars spent and nothing proved guilty on Clinton’s side. Besides, Bill enjoys the highest approval rate that any demo president had in the past 50 years. Well, there is no dem in WH this time, another 4 years. I think McCain is not my choice, But will not vote for Obama either.
Posted by: amy | May 27, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Amy-
I wish people would have used your logic in the last 2 elections, and not voted at all… maybe we wouldn’t be in the dire(yes,dire) circumstances that we now find ourselves in….
And looks like you need a hug, you only have 6 friends?….. Did the wine & cheese club not meet last month, gas too high?……..
Posted by: Aleon | May 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Texanvoter..Big country…too much space!
I spent a whole sentence , trying to save you the embarassment of wallowing in messinformation.
RFK ‘s son will be disappointed when he reads your comment about Hillary’s reference to the death of his father so as to exploit it for some pointless point.
Robert Kennedy jr. said the context and the use of the assasination word, was wrongly brought forward by Mr. Obama’s campaign spokespeople. who agreed and dropped it like a hot potato…
Apparently this is harder to understand than simple math. I might not know what is 2+2 =??
But I tell you are trying to scavenge Hillary for a fraud like Barack Obama.
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Oracle:
A woman is not a fool. Do you think they will support a woman who opposed Hillary in support of Obama.
Do you think women will accept second best. A woman will not support another woman , while Hillary has been disrespected and discarded together with her strong record and popularity throughtout America and its territories.
So don’t humor me with some woman and say she is as good , vote for she , since it is a woman you want.
Utter disrespect!!
Posted by: Andy | May 27, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Has anyone calculated Hillary’s period timing from her mood swings?
Posted by: foo | May 27, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
1. I concede Obama won the democratic nomination.
2. That doesn’t mean I have to vote for him in the GE.
3. I also don’t like voting for McCain.
4. What are my choices?
Again we are stuck with voting for the candidate that will hurt us the least. So with that thought, it is about time this country start thinking about a third party.
How long are we going to be fed our politicians by the media and the party system? Now more than any other time, it is time to think seriously about the Independent party for all of you that feel taken in by the current political system.
By having three presidential candidates, this makes the other two more honest. There are many other countries that have more than two political parties, why can’t we?
You can start the ball rolling by going down to your county election board and registering INDEPENDENT.
Posted by: Average Joe | May 27, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
foofoo—Why are you worried about her periods. Do you think you will have any better luck with her than all the others that have turned you down?
Posted by: BikernAz | May 27, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I regret that some people are upset that Hilary is not winning. I was for her at first, but after listening to her speeches later on, I changed my mind. She is too emotional and say things without thinking it out first. These are characteristic our President should not have. I vote for Obama
Posted by: brwngirl | May 27, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Know what Marty,this list came from law enforcement…It is true plus there are 13 body guards that are now dead think maybe they knew to much????The Clinotns are DIRTY in more ways then one…
Posted by: older person | May 27, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
This is a fantastic article, speaks to the core.
I also think it is becoming more and more obvious to the masses that Hillary Clinton has become emotionally unraveled. She is just like one of those games where if you touch the wrong stick or piece, it all comes crumbling down. That’s going to happen any minute or day now. I think the woman needs some rest in a nice, safe, relaxing enviornment. Perhaps then she can start to pick up the pieces of the self-imposed monster she has created for herself and move on to become a sane person. (If that’s possible at this stage). Earth to Senator Clinton: Take a deep breath…
Posted by: Lisa Again | May 27, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
I guess some people will stick beside the Clintons no matter what happens. It’s akin to the Captain going down with the sinking ship.
Speaking of ships, to the poster who suggested another poster here was entertaining conspiracy theories, no the Clintons did not have anything to do with the sinking of Titanic, but that too, was a disaster that could have been averted, just like the Clintons. The only difference is the crew of Titanic didn’t see the iceberg until it was too late. The American people had plenty of warning with Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: Lisa Again | May 27, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Dear Hillary supporter why not you give some money for her campaign than posting untruthful comments here. She need you money and she is capable of lying on behalf on all of you.
Posted by: david | May 27, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
hillary supports are so negative as her campaign.
Posted by: mamo | May 27, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
BO is silver-tongued, I give him that, but let’s ask what he offers the American people? More and higher taxes, elimination of the middle class entirely? Lack of crucial experience on so many levels?
John McCain DOES NOT stand for four more years of “W.” That’s just liberal rhetoric. McCain’s record has proven that he is his own person. He gets my vote and the vote of many others who have looked long and deep into the abyss.
Posted by: Lisa Again | May 27, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I hope Hill and Bill enjoy seeing the White House in their rear view mirror. Because that is all they will both see for about eight years.
Posted by: orange cat | May 27, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I just bought a “Hillary Nutcracker.” It’s great, and it was 50% off. Wonder why!
Posted by: rhbate | May 27, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
andy–I just love it when you use such big words.Show all the morons..that you are smarter and better educated. That’ll teach’em not to mess with you.
Posted by: orange cat | May 27, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
When the republicans open their big Obama bag and spill out what they really have on him America will be shocked and we will have 4 more years of BUSH. The republicans want obama because they can beat him no doubt about that just wait and see. You are all fooling youselves. And it will have nothing to do with Hillary, racism or sexism. Just wait and see. How can you all be so blind as to what the republicans are doing. How sad that they are truely going to make donkeys out of us in November. So go make your anti-Hillary speach but sadly you will see one day that she was our only hope and I am disappointed that you in the media are so anxious to write her off. Are you sure you are not republicans?
Posted by: Veronica | May 27, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Sounds like more talking points from Axlerod posing as “analysis”. The DNC is poised on the brink of total implosion, the “journalists” of today have lost all credibility with most of the nation, and you’re talking about Hillary as if she weren’t leading in the popular vote, polling much better than Obama in key swing states, and doesn’t have a huge percentage of the Dems behind her fight to the convention floor in August.
Why don’t you do a real investigative story about how many voters want to take their Obama votes back from early elections before Fox finally started doing some vetting, and we started seeing the likes of the Reverend Wright, Rezko, and Ayers in Obama’s shady past? Now that would be journalism!
Posted by: Grammy Barb | May 27, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I have been through the stages of grief as far as Hillary’s campaign is concerned.
My acceptance is a vote for McCain.
Posted by: Carol 17 | May 27, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Why is the press NOT questioning Hillary on all the “missing people” who used to work for the Clintons? Why isn’t she being presented with the odds against so many dying in such a short time that worked for them, in a high profile audience, like a debate? Why isn’t the press digging up hard evidence among all those cases – surely they slipped up SOMEWHERE! In short, why isn’t the press doing their “real” job? Investigations!
Posted by: yes1fan | May 27, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Hillary cares about the people, Hillary cares about FL and MI, Hillary cares about the country….
Do you remember who else Hillary used to care about?
Remember socks the Clintons cat?
Funny when they no longer needed that poor cat to “soften” her image with the american people, when they were no longer in the public eye.
They gave that cat away!!!
I wonder if when Hillary doesnt need you anymore, will she still care about you?
When she doesnt need FL and MI anymore, will she still care about them?
Posted by: Deb | May 27, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
mary: You must be reading comic books. Obama was never a civil rights attorney. He was an attorney for a crooked businessman named Rezko who is now on trial. He and his wife Michelle were racists that’s why they attended that church for 20 years. Obama disliked his mother and grandmother because they were white. You better read the facts about him. He is a liar, fake and copycat all in one. I will be glad to find out that Hillary’s voters vote for McCain so we have someone with brains running the country.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
yeslfan: Whom are you talking about that worked for the Clinton’s and died. There are a few working for the Obama camp at this time and Richardson is still alive. You have to name them in your comments.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
i worked in a legislative office across from his office on the hill when he was just a congressman and he had a reputation as just a hothead…you could hear his screaming all the way down the hall. i don’t want such a hot-tempered person to be my president.
Posted by: knecht46 | May 27, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
i worked in a legislative office across from McCain’soffice on the hill when he was just a congressman and he had a reputation as just a hothead…you could hear his screaming all the way down the hall. i don’t want such a hot-tempered person to be my president.
Posted by: knecht46 | May 27, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
in this Democracy, we are the masters of our own disappointment. Hillary’s campaign was always about…Hillary. We know her well, and want her to go home now. McCain is still walking before us on invisible crutches, reminding us that he can be counted on, we just are not sure what for. Now, young Barack has captured the imagination of millions who want to be inspired, and we can only hope this phenomena has both a take off and a landing. Is this guy really a pilot or does he just look good walking through the airport? It is inevitable that we find out. I wish him well, as my country is crumbling under the burden of our own generosity.
Posted by: jggrimm | May 27, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
orange cat: And that’s just about what Obama is going to see after he loses the election. McCain will definately beat him because Obama will not win the battleground states like Hillary due to the fact many voters will switch to McCain. I know he will not win WVA or KY because they vote for their own race. And Obama might not even get the Latino vote. This campaign has been nothing but a mess since he became a candidate. And this generation of college students that are 52% on drugs are the ones voting for him and I believe its because Obama was a drug addict boozer himself in his days at college. I wouldn’t doubt he is a closet drinker along with his smoking.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
in this Democracy, we are the masters of our own disappointment. Hillary’s campaign was always about…Hillary. We know her well, and want her to go home now. McCain is still walking before us on invisible crutches, reminding us that he can be counted on, we just are not sure what for. Now, young Barack has captured the imagination of millions who want to be inspired, and we can only hope this phenomena has both a take off and a landing. Is this guy really a pilot or does he just look good walking through the airport? It is inevitable that we find out. I wish him well, as my country is crumbling under the burden of our own generosity.
Posted by: jggrimm | May 27, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Lisa Again: I think you need to come back to earth and that’s just about what Obama will be doing when he loses the election. Hillary should declare herself an independent and that would take thousands of votes away from him so he would lose the election. Hillary probably will not do that because she is not the type like me. She shouldn’t care about splitting the democrat party because they didn’t care about her. Or since she was a republican when she was younger and became a democrat after marrying Bill Clinton she could be the VP for McCain and take back all the battleground states.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
jggrimm: Obama certainly has captured the imagination of millions by his RFK speeches of hope and change. He can’t form the words to write a speech of his own. He studied books on MLK and no doubt copied what he said and like Rush said, Obama can’t do anything on his own. And he would need severe training from day one to run this country. Foreign polity he does not know and he has made some real dumb statements. Hamas, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda must be dancing in the streets celebrating and waiting for his win because they know he is a no nothing do nothing and in an attack he would run and hide.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Earl: Mary should get a copy of Obama’s bio from the NYT and get her facts straight. Obama’s mother was married and divorced thee times, his father was married and divorced four times. He has several half brothers and sisters somewhere in Kenya. He was with his father in Kenya then his father left, Obama was raised also by his stepfather in Indonesia. His mother died at age 53 and her mother raised him from then on. He was not homeless and his mother was never on welfare. He went to good schools. His grandmother supported him how do you think he went to Harvard? Obama doesn’t care about the poor. Obama likes mingling with the wealthy. He likes the black votes but didn’t want to go into Philadelphia or the far southside of Chicago. He’s too busy speaking RFK’s speeches to the public although the public is so dumb their not aware that he didn’t word those speeches he copied them.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
How sad that Clinton supporters are still fighting and pouting like children because they didn’t get the prefered candidate. They taunt and threaten to vote for McCain. Four more years of Bush’s failed policies
As we Americans blog on the media networks about our opinion on both Democratic Candidates….Bush and McCain attend a private fundraiser. Yes, the GOP is planning the demise of the Dems party.
Obama is the only candidate who has shown that his cares about the American people that matters. The American’s that hope for the American dream to come true and have fair taxes, healthcare, quality education, clean air, alternative fuels. Look at our economy… Bush’s plan for the stimulus checks has backfired the seniors citizens are still waiting, housing crisis is a wreck and Bush has not offered to help anyone save their homes and McCain follows right behind him.
So Clinton supporters you rather vote for a McCain (because he’s white) with same failed policies that doesn’t care about you or any other American rather than serve his on conquest for military power, and more riches. He scares me and my kids. If He goes into
white house, I never forgive the Clintons or the Clinton supporters ever. Our Nation will go into another war, you can count on that with McCain in office. I have two son’s in the Iraq…if they are killed I will blame the Clinton supporters because they were selfish and voted for McCain. McCain said 100 years of war. My son’s is all I have left in the wicked world we live in. The Clinton supporters want to take them away from me.
Clinton and Obama share the same values for America and yet Clinton supporters would throw it all away because they don’t like Obama because he’s black. No wonder the gap between the ages, and education differs. Clinton supporters just don’t know any better. It breaks the heart.
Posted by: Wallace | May 28, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
How sad that Clinton supporters are still fighting and pouting like children because they didn’t get the prefered candidate. They taunt and threaten to vote for McCain. Four more years of Bush’s failed policies
As we Americans blog on the media networks about our opinion on both Democratic Candidates….Bush and McCain attend a private fundraiser. Yes, the GOP is planning the demise of the Dems party.
Obama is the only candidate who has shown that his cares about the American people that matters. The American’s that hope for the American dream to come true and have fair taxes, healthcare, quality education, clean air, alternative fuels. Look at our economy… Bush’s plan for the stimulus checks has backfired the seniors citizens are still waiting, housing crisis is a wreck and Bush has not offered to help anyone save their homes and McCain follows right behind him.
So Clinton supporters you rather vote for a McCain (because he’s white) with same failed policies that doesn’t care about you or any other American rather than serve his on conquest for military power, and more riches. He scares me and my kids. If He goes into
white house, I never forgive the Clintons or the Clinton supporters ever. Our Nation will go into another war, you can count on that with McCain in office. I have two son’s in the Iraq…if they are killed I will blame the Clinton supporters because they were selfish and voted for McCain. McCain said 100 years of war. My son’s is all I have left in the wicked world we live in. The Clinton supporters want to take them away from me.
Clinton and Obama share the same values for America and yet Clinton supporters would throw it all away because they don’t like Obama because he’s black. No wonder the gap between the ages, and education differs. Clinton supporters just don’t know any better. It breaks the heart.
Posted by: Wallace | May 28, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Look at the bright side — by this time next week, the Big H will need her crying towel. boo-hoo
She is as big of a LIAR as her IMPEACHED from POTUS husband, Bill (“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”) Clinton.
Anyone but Hillary ’8
Posted by: Earl II | May 28, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Hope..blah..blah…change!..blah..blah
he won’t win.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
A vile psycho-analysis of a candidate, stolen from one of these newsgroup Obamabots. I stopped listening to Obama defining Clinton a long time ago, they are just too negative.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 28, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
My extended family of 19 small town bitter gun toting church going disenfranchized Floridian Reagan Democrats will she our neutrality and register as Republicans to vote for JM if the sexist elitist Obam/ Democratic Leadership and the liberal media shut out HRC as they have done so for the past few months. Roland Martin, the CMM reporter said when Wright came back and told on live TV, the people will believe and go the way they project/spin the Wright story and the Wright story will never take hold. Consider the Wright story to the Bosnia flap when CNN came out in full force together with MSNBC. Down with the media, down with the Democratic party and down with Obama. They are elitist sexist and simply out of touch. Pelosi is one nasty mean woman who simply wants to be the Grand Dame in the Democratic Party. It is time to boot the Democratic party out for good and find an alternative centrist party. Over to you Bllomberg and Dobbs. My family will vote for JM BECAUSE WE WILL NOT SEE BO IN OUR WHITE HOUSE.
Posted by: Warren5678 | May 28, 2008, 5:26 am 5:26 am
Wallace you poor misguided fool. Most of us are tired of the rhetoric coming from Obama supporters calling everyone racist because they don’t want to vote for him.
Have you ever for a moment given the thought that there might be other reasons. The biggest one to come to my mind is EXPERIENCE.
And what if your inexperienced Obama makes the wrong decisions and gets one of your sons killed, is it any different? Obviously your sons have moved beyond your small mind and have put the best interests of the country ahead of themselves.
It would be just as easy for me to say if you vote for Obama and he screws up this country even more, I will never forgive Obama supporters, so give it a rest.
Maybe YOUR candidate should not have divided the party like he did, now live with it.
Posted by: 68' vet | May 28, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
Hillary is not the only one who is in a state of denial – I see a number of posts here who are still in Anger and Sadness. At least Hillary has moved on to Bargaining. Or maybe it’s just that a little cheese is needed to go with all of the whine.
Posted by: Namako OH3 | May 28, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am
The following is a transcript of a conversation overheard at 3am –>
CLINTON: “If I win, it’s because I deserve it. If I lose, you cheated, and you have to change the rules. I know, I agreed to the rules at the start of the game. But that was when I knew I was going to win, because I said I would. Now, that vast conspiracy — Bill calls them ‘They’ — wants to punish the nation by not giving them what they want… ME! So, you HAVE to change the rules so I can win. And I’m going to stamp my feet and hold my breath and turn blue until you give me what I want.”
AMERICA: “Just take your ball and go home already.”
Posted by: Great Caesar's Ghost | May 28, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
HOPE
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E veryone with the help of the media…
Posted by: unstoppable 08 | May 28, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
My mom is 55 and wears pantsuits and loves Hillary and feels all the men with power are afraid of her. She can’t wait for Hillary to win and start fighting to take power from the old men in DC. I tell her Mom, why are you and Hillary so angry. How can we ever find a better future of prosperity, economic growth and energy independence if you are so focused on yesterday. We need to move on to tomorrow. Just move on.
Posted by: crystal | May 28, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
This country is ready for a woman president. I would vote a woman for president but not Hillary. She is very smart, calculated, arrogant and an extremely good politician. How can you vote for someone who is either too stupid to know your spouse has been cheating on you numerous times or too calculated to put up with it because he can advance your career? Is this the role model you want for your daughter or granddaughter?
Posted by: Spaceman | May 28, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
If you want to be hired as CEO you have to prove your skills by working not by saying ‘Hope’ and ‘Change’ . Let BO finish his full term senate and prove before he asks him to hire for CEO of the country. Please take your emotion off and do the right thing. One more mistake will create much problems and recovery will be a big struggle. So vote for McCain. So Dems vote for McCain.
Posted by: lydia | May 28, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
ALL I’M READING IS WHO LIED ABOUT THIS AND THAT.WHY DON’T SOMEONE COUNT THE LIES ON HILLARY AND OBAMA TO SEE WHO LIES MORE.THEN MAYBE THE PEOPLE CAN DECIDE WHO THE BEST LIAR IS FOR PRESIDENT.THEN EVERYONE CAN STOP SAYING HILLARY LIED ABOUT THIS AND OBAMA LIED ABOUT THAT.JUST COUNT THE LIES.
Posted by: lil_granny | May 28, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
did hrc win the most states or the most states that matter? and did she win the states that matter most because they matter most or do they matter most because she won them?
ouch! my mind broke!
Obama/Barr 2008
Posted by: elitehick55 | May 28, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
What is Obama going to do after this AUSCHWITZ sniper fire?
Will he abandon his greatp uncle as moch he did of his black community and hispastor?
Posted by: rajesh | May 28, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
What end game? Anyone that thinks she’s going anywhere but Denver in August, is delusional.
This fight will end badly on the convention floor in August.
Posted by: Steve | May 28, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
To all those who support Hillary and claim, as she does, that she has won the popular vote via the most populated states.
The states with the most voters should not determine presidential nominations nor elections: ALL of the states should!
For those of you who believe Hillary is the best candidate recall the following: in 1993 she bullied her husband into giving her the task of getting health care for americans.
She was a dismal FAILURE and completing this task and has done NOTHING since being elected to the senate in 2000.
It is time for her to return to Arkansas and remain out of politics FOREVER.
Posted by: EnoughAlready! | May 28, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Way to go President Hillary!!!
Hillary won Kentucky and West Virginia by a landslide in spite of overspending in ads 3 to 1 by Obama against Hillary. Same thing that happened in Indiana and Pennsylvannia. Obama is expected to win both Indiana and North Carolina since February. But, Hillary won Indiana and cut Obama’s lead in North Carolina from 20% in February down to 14% in spite of ad overspending by Obama.
Wake up media people or wake up superdelegates. Hillary even won consecutively in Ohio, Texas (Obama lost even he was endorsed by the Traitor Bill Richardson), and Pennsylvannia. Not to mention the other big states such as California (Obama lost in California even though Oprah, Maria Shriver, and Katherine Kennedy endorsed him), Massachusetts (Obama lost Massachusetts even though Kennedy and John Kerry endorsed him), Arkansas, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Florida (both of them are in the ballot) that are crucial in November. Hillary has the most electoral college votes based in these big states.
If you want a Democrat to win then Hillary should be the choice. HILLARY WON THE BIG STATES AND THE SWING STATES. If Hilalry is not the nominee, we will vote for McCain. African Americans are so unfair voting 9 to1 against Hillary not like the white people who fair and thinks who is the best candidate. Who is being racial now? This racial thing about Black has been OVERUSED, MISUSED and ABUSED by these people. Obama, the Obama camp, Clyburn, Wright and others can not fool us anymore. Stop this non-sense.
Wake up superdelegates! Wake up media people.
Posted by: Alfredo | May 28, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Hillary won Kentucky and West Virginia by a landslide in spite of overspending in ads 3 to 1 by Obama against Hillary. Same thing that happened in Indiana and Pennsylvannia. Obama is expected to win both Indiana and North Carolina since February. But, Hillary won Indiana and cut Obama’s lead in North Carolina from 20% in February down to 14% in spite of ad overspending by Obama.
Wake up media people or wake up superdelegates. Hillary even won consecutively in Ohio, Texas (Obama lost even he was endorsed by the Traitor Bill Richardson), and Pennsylvannia. Not to mention the other big states such as California (Obama lost in California even though Oprah, Maria Shriver, and Katherine Kennedy endorsed him), Massachusetts (Obama lost Massachusetts even though Kennedy and John Kerry endorsed him), Arkansas, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Florida (both of them are in the ballot) that are crucial in November. Hillary has the most electoral college votes based in these big states.
If you want a Democrat to win then Hillary should be the choice. HILLARY WON THE BIG STATES AND THE SWING STATES. If Hilalry is not the nominee, we will vote for McCain. African Americans are so unfair voting 9 to1 against Hillary not like the white people who fair and thinks who is the best candidate. Who is being racial now? This racial thing about Black has been OVERUSED, MISUSED and ABUSED by these people. Obama, the Obama camp, Clyburn, Wright and others can not fool us anymore. Stop this non-sense.
Wake up superdelegates! Wake up media people.
Posted by: Alfredo | May 28, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
I’m saden to see racism is still alive in the USA, I’m happy to see allot of us have grown up and put color behind us. We all bleed red. Can we please come together as a nation and stop acting like a bunch of two year olds. I was going to vote for Hillary until I found out Obama was a Christian. I’m a women I have mood swings, pms and all the ups and downs that comes along with being a woman. If you vote for McCain just because you don’t want to vote for a black/white man it says very little about your character. Hillary also lost my vote when she called for white voters. What about the human race that’s what we are. She’s not out for the people she’s out for herself. May God give us wisdom when it’s time to vote for our next president. And whoever is elected we need to pray that God’s will, will be done and not man.
Posted by: light | May 28, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
ALFREDO
You are what happens when government programs give West Virginians computer access.
Posted by: wvlover | May 28, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
This is what WILL HAPPEN:
THE NOV. POPULAR VOTE WILL GO LIKE THIS…
CLINTON(I) 27%
OBAMA(D) 28%
MCCAIN(R) 38%
BARR(L) 6%
NADER(C) 1%
Cliton will wager she can split the democrats 50/50, and pull women voters from the republican side, but won’t do either.
No one will get the needed 270 electoral votes. We will then go to the congress, which with a democratic lean, will punish Clinton for switching independent “in the name of democracy” and Obama will become president.
Motivated by such a high percentage, Clinton will run again as an independent in 2012 against incumbent Obama, splitting the party, and by then the repubs will coalesce and move further right, and win the white house back (Rove/Gingrich 2012), diminishing/splitting the democratic party for the next 24 yrs as they flail against each other.
HILLARY THE UNITER…OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
Posted by: shofuso93@hotmail.com | May 28, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
c. gamble:
Are you serious? I may be an African American, but you must’ve missed the “American” at the end. I dont owe the Clintons for anything they’ve done for the black community. They were supposed to. We’re Americans too!
Obama represents and SPEAKS ON all thats wrong with this country and all of the Americans who live in a world disassociated with the rest of the world. I love being an American, but the rest of the world hates Americans. Ever ask yourself why?
Posted by: TiredOfStupidity | May 28, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
One hope the Clinton campaign has grabbed onto, with really ugly results, is the hope to have a woman president. I think that’s something most dems, esp. women dems, would like. As a woman, I believe that women need to have a lot more power.
So why am I for Obama? I mean I don’t even hate Hillary (like the repubs in my family).
I guess because my hopes for a woman president are kind of abstract, whereas my hopes for the war, the environment, the corporate saturation of government-those hopes are immediate in my mind, I can feel and taste them every day. And I think Obama is the one who can move this country in the direction we need to go…
The hope simply based on that ceiling women need to break…well, I would vote plain on that if we were in a different world. We need a leader who is not just smart, but inspiring, and open, transparent, upright. Hil is just not that. I know she is wonderful, just not the president we need now.
8 years of fear…we’ve been there, done that.
Posted by: Gina | May 28, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Leaneitherway said: The only thing that bothers me is the Obama says he is African-American (black) but yet he is not.
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First, as you note, his father was from Africa and his mother is American. I don’t know what difference that makes to you, but if you don’t call that African-American, what is it.
Please let me know what his race has to do with anything
Posted by: rhbate | May 28, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Leaneitherway said: The only thing that bothers me is the Obama says he is African-American (black) but yet he is not.
___________________
First, as you note, his father was from Africa and his mother is American. I don’t know what difference that makes to you, but if you don’t call that African-American, what is it.
Please let me know what his race has to do with anything
Posted by: rhbate | May 28, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
What is Obama going to do after this AUSCHWITZ sniper fire?
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We’ll save the sniper fire for Hillary. After all, she has the “experience.”
Posted by: rhbate | May 28, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
This isn’t about a Black man or a White woman , this is about the future of our country. Clinton is the one who I want meeting with world leaders, The press including Dowd have had their spin. The only grief you will have is at the dnc convention. They could have set the tone instead they have played divisive politics. The DNC Party is in DENIAL.
Posted by: Really | May 28, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Paul, Paul, Paul.
Calling a wrench a wrench does not make you a wrench.
Calling a fearmonger a fearmonger does not make you a fearmonger.
Calling a toaster a toaster does not make you a toaster.
Just FYI
Obama 08
Posted by: ArlaMiner | May 28, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
This isn’t about a Black man or a White woman, this is about the future of our country.
Posted by: Really | May 28, 2008 5:17:20 PM
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The most important reason I could not vote for Hillary is that she is a manifest liar. The second reason is that she lacks the necessary foreign policy experience, to wit, her experience in Bosnia. How could I respect a leader who is in a plane that makes a “corkscrew landing” all the while fighting off snipers and the only backup she has is her then twelve-year-old daughter, a guitar player and a comedian. She could have at least brought along a sax player.
Posted by: rhbate | May 28, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Dowd’s article is typical of media generalizing and spinning personal views. Example: Hillary looks tired to me (what’s the relevance to the rest of us here? Her schedule has been intense. Is hard work a negative? Why should someone who has received the number of votes she has be portrayed as pathetic or unwilling to leave the stage. Her support is nothing like other primary contenders who have chosen to withdraw. One of the reasons I support her is because of the hope her candidacy represents as a seasoned, intelligent, energetic, and dedicated public servant. My hope is based on realism and not change for change sake. Obama has great potential but is not as prepared in 2008 as she. So as someone who has two masters degrees and makes considerably more than 50K, I have rationally chosen the candidate that I believe represents hope for the future. I deeply resent Dowd and other media employees who have allowed their personal opinions to cloud journalistic objectivty. Once again (election of 2000, build-up to Iraq war, Bush administration’s anti-science policies plus…) Dowd and his colleagues have failed the American people.
Posted by: Hopefuldem | May 28, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Seven stages of grief… Good grief!
What a joke? Like anyone would take this storey seriously.
It makes you wonder how people like Matthew Dowd get their job, wonder who he is related to?
Posted by: MRogers | May 28, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
I am for a president who listens to the people; on the war in Iraq – get out, on education – do better, on the economy – we need some relief here,hello? On national security – it isn’t all happening in Iraq – we need border and port security and a solution to 20 million illegal aliens (don’t
pass it to the border states!), we need jobs- stop NAFTA, we need gas – explore alternative fuels/energy and give tax incentives for developement! We need healthcare for American, but it has to be fair – give incentive to business who offer it, help us all get under the umbrella without all of us picking up the slack for those who don’t have it -ie 20,0000 illegal aliens. How many young people do you know who do not marry because – MEDICAID will pay for the babies? We need find solutions to keep people from working the system and we need systems that work for people in need- WE NEED CHANGE. I will vote for Obama. I am an independent voter and I belive that Obama it our best chance at changing America for the better. I am tired of the same old lies and the same old sell tactics and then the cold shoulder – I am depending on Obama to FIX IT! End the war, restore education, secure the borders, fix immigration, and secure our America’s economy. I want better energy solutions!
Obama cannot do this alone, we need to see that everyone in the House and Senate are on board BUT MOST OF ALL – WE NEED A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE!!!! AND THE PEOPLE NEED TO SUPPORT THE CHANGES FOR OUR GREAT NATION – WE CANNOT GO ON THIS WAY! WE ARE BANKRUPT IN MANY AREAS!
Posted by: white mountain | May 28, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
i hear hilly,willy and the rest of their crew will be at home—-on the jerry springer show.
Posted by: rodney | May 28, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Great Post O! If you read the total “Clinton Scandal File” it is some kind of scary! The body count just keeps adding up! Now, this is highly unprobable, no matter how your look at it! I am worried for Obama, especially since she has “mentioned” Bobby Kennedy not once – but three times as a reason/reference for her staying in the race. I don’t trust her or Bill. PERIOD!
Posted by: white mountain | May 28, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Yeah!!! let’s vote for a black man so that they can’t call us racist!!!
Let us vote for a Black man with no experience but plenty of good friends around him. Rezko, Ayers, Rev Wright ETC.
Then you can turn your back when the National Anthem is played and say God D**mn America at the end.
Yeah that is so great huh?
Posted by: Philadelphia Experiment | May 28, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
anyone who does not realize the damage that the clintons have done to this country—has to be totally ignorant.
mainly nafta and the china trade agreement.chinese comunist people sleeping in lincolns bed in white house. no limit to their corruption.
Posted by: rodney | May 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I get a kick out of Hillary and McShame supporters who say that you Can’t trust Obama because his preacher is Rev Wright, and he associates with the Aeyers. Whats in Hillary’s closet: White Water, Travelgate, Peter Paul, Sniper Fire. McShame goes out and begs for endorsements from two of the bigest right wing rednecks around and that is okay. Clinton and McShames supporters claim Obama is not patriotic because he doesn’t wear a 1/2″x1/2″ flag pin. Really? When was the last time you saw Clinton or McShame wear the flag pin? Why don’t you all just admit that you are racists and femenists, at least then you would telling the truth and not hiding behind to political dinasaursthat both voted to illegally invade another country.
Posted by: Dave | May 28, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
after 16 years of the worst government i have ever witnessed—obama at his worst is still a boy scout compared to the others—his baggage is very minor and trivial compared to clintons and MCflip flop
Posted by: rodney | May 28, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
So we all want our candidate to win! But what puzzles me most is why Clinton is struggling financially if she has 17 million staunch supporters? (at least that is what many of her supporters claim) Even if each were to give only $2 a month that’s a whopping 34million dollar/ month she could’ve used to defeat Obama. Just wondering….
Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | May 29, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
The most important reason I could not vote for Hillary is that she is a manifest liar. The second reason is that she lacks the necessary foreign policy experience, to wit, her experience in Bosnia. How could I respect a leader who is in a plane that makes a “corkscrew landing” all the while fighting off snipers and the only backup she has is her then twelve-year-old daughter, a guitar player and a comedian. She could have at least brought along a sax player.
Posted by: rhbate | May 29, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
I am a female veteran well above the 50K income and below the 50yr old mark and since the media have all but put Hillary back in the proverbial kitchen, I am now a McCain supporter. I do NOT understand how all of these people are screaming that a vote for the war was wrong. Were none of you present on 9-11? Look back. Do you not remember a country ready to disown its own government if it hadn’t taken action?! Hindsight is 20/20. The same media telling you it was a bad decision, is the same media that stood on its pedestal and demanded action, NOW!!. Get over the self-righteous BS and look at WHAT they’ve put before you. This BO guy has NOT served his country(for that early post equating community organization to service to your country, go back and play in your meth lab because there is NOTHING similar about the two-I’ve done both)
Look at the GI Bill they are proposing-the military would become a draft situation again since there are no term requirements to earn it and you’d lose your “lifers” to short term service. Someone has to serve…will you, will YOUR sons and daughters? Put the proposed GI Bill in place and you won’t have a choice. Don’t dog what you know nothing about.
As for the media treatment of Obama, well, let me just say that had ANY other candidate even suggested he’d(she’d) been to “57 states with, I think, one more to go”, it would have sealed their fate as GW Bush’s second coming. Not him, he got a pass. WTF?? The person they say will be the next commander in chief has no clue how many states are in the US?!? AND, he has an IVY league education. Money well spent by his “typical white” gmother. My mulatto teenager is appalled at how low the bar has been moved for Mr. Obama because of his race.(he’s technically mulatto, not african american as reported) She says it makes it that much harder to be taken seriously. Her quote, “he’s Bush with a tan” Unfortunately I have to agree to an extent.
Hillary IS truly the better candidate on the democrat side. I believe people should have dreams, but I do not believe the superpower that is the US should be led by a dreamer. Dreams without action are devastation. We need to be led by a “doer” who can appreciate that people do have dreams. Hillary is that person.
All the talk of the “hoods” by bloggers here, why is that OK and it’s NOT okay for her to even suggest some kind of suffragist era persecution? double standard much?
For the DNC, congrats on selecting a cult leader to be your candidate. Funny thing with cults, they jump onto the “next best thing” He’s already losing ground. HUGE mistake. For those delegates and superdelegates who support BO…I will remember and will not be voting for you because you’re clearly idiots. My vote is tallied in only one state, but I know you’ve heard of marketing and how bad it can be to have poor customer service. You’re a let down to us and we WILL be spreading the word. Enjoy your terms, it will likely be your last.
McCain ’08 because Obama doesn’t deserve my vote. Where’s Ralph Nader when you need him? :)
Posted by: musicalsmile | May 29, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
I’m looking at the American people who are in denial and full of blame. They want the easy way – hope, yes, we want our economy back, out troops home, etc. Whoever wins this race, we must put our faith in them to do what is best for our country. How do we know what is really going on? And, we cannot know everything, as that would put us all in jeopardy. How is this country going to be protected unless we fight. Do we want more destruction and loss of lives because our soldiers are home. Who’s protecting us? Talk to the soldiers who have been there. Nine our of ten will tell you this war is necessary to protect us. We will not have peace without a fight. There is much kept secret in the Whitehouse – of course, and it has to be that way for our protection. How can we judge when we don’t know all the facts? If OB gets in there, he’s going to have a tough time keeping his promises. We all must keep the hope and pray for our soldiers and what they are going through and be thankful for their sacrafice for us. Without them, our “hope” will turn to fear.
Posted by: Carol | May 29, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THEIR ATTACKS ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Lou | May 29, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THEIR ATTACKS ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Lou | May 29, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THEIR ATTACKS ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Lou | May 29, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THEIR ATTACKS ON OUR DEMOCRACY!!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
THIS ELECTION MUST END AT THE CONVENTION ONLY! AND NOT IN THE MEDIA!
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
GIVE HILLARY A FAIR CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!!!
Posted by: Lou | May 29, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
HOPE ON A ROPE FROM A DOPE.
ZEIGHEIL OBAMA…NOW GET THE FREAK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.
Posted by: Lou | May 29, 2008, 6:05 am 6:05 am
HOW MANY OPERATIONS DO YOU OBAMA THUGS HAVE?
OPERATION CHAOS
Operation “mission accomplished” strategy marginalizing Clinton and putting her down
Operation pretend..that obama is the winner
OPERATION ARGUE, DEMEAN AND DISTRACT
operation blame hill camp for what we are doing.
operation NAME CALLING ON HILLARY
OPERATION DOUBLE STANDARD
OPERATION SKEW PERCEPTION AND TRUTH
OPERATION PRETEND WE ARE THE SMARTEST
OPERATION PRETEND WE HAVE THE MOST MONEY
OPERATION PRETEND WE HAVE IT TOGETHER
OPERATION PRETEND OBAMA IS YOUNG AND NOT REALLY 47 YEARS old.
OPERATION PRETEND WE ARE BEING NICE TO HILLARY WHILE WE RIP HER TO SHREDS
OPERATION PRETEND THEY ARE RACISTS SO WE CAN STOP THEM DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS
OPERATION DISORT AND DISTRACT
OPERATION EXPERIENCE DOESN’T MATTER
OPERATION OBAMA ISN’T EVIL WHEN WE KNOW HE IS BUT WE DON’T CARE OR UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS ..WE DO NOT KNOW HISTORY NOR DO WE CARE.
OPERATION BEAT HILLARY’S GOOD NAME DOWN TO A PULP IN FRONT OF GOD AND THE WORLD BUT SAY YOU’LL VOTE FOR HER IF SHE IS THE NOMINEE
OPERATION I WANT MY WAY REGARDLESS OF WHO IT HURTS BECAUSE I DO NOT PAY BILLS MY MOM OR WIFE DOES
OPERATION SLAM HILLARY AND HER GENDER
OPERATION TELL HILLARY SHE’S A DRUNK FOR TAKING A SIP ON A BEER
OPERATION WHINE IF I DO NOT GET MY WAY
OPERATION MYSOGYNY
OPERATION PUBLICLY HATE THE GREATEST MOST LOVED PESIDENT IN MODERN TIMES BILL..
OPERATION LET’S GET PETTY AT ALL COSTS
OPERATION BRAG ABOUT THINGS WE REALLY CAN’T LAY CLAIM TO.
OPERATION LET’S NOT LET ON THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT OBAMA STANDS FOR EXCEPT HE SOMETHING NEW.
Posted by: GiveMeABreak | May 29, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
Hillary, herself voting on stripping the delegates in Florida and Mich. Changing the rules would be just like stuffing a ballot!If the DNC allows this change to happen for Hillary, then how can we trust are voting System?
Posted by: Demo Rules | May 29, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Hillary reminds me of an angry Kucinich, but without a penile appendage. The main difference though is that she’s more shrill, wants to blame people more and is one with the pervert. That’s why we call her Billery. Vote McCain you ignorant losers.
Posted by: Billy Bensing | May 29, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Givemeabreak – Hillbilly is the on who is a lying, cheating dog. Her Operation FEAR MONGER will not work. Hillbilly is a dried up old loser who pardoned known criminals who were downright no good. Hillbilly tossed the women they molested under the bus, and now Hillbilly is kicking the blacks to the curb. Hillbilly is a laughing stock, a joke. She’s toast.
Posted by: Billy Bensing | May 29, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
ANY WOMEN – INCLUDING HILLARY CLINTON,
WHO EMBRACES OR TOLARATES “SEXUAL EXPLOITATION” OF FEMALE SUBORDINATES BY THEIR “MALE SUPERIORS” OR “BOSS” OR “MENTORS” OR “COACHES” OR “TEACHERS” OR “PRIESTS” SHOULD REFLECT ON SELF. IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO ACCEPT BUSINESS AS USUAL OR TO TEACH YOUR DAUGHTER THAT THIS IS “NO BODY’S BUSINESS”. IT IS OUR BUSINESS, I AM A SCOUT LEADER FOR 20 YEARS, I AM THE PROUD FATHER OF TWO ADULT DAUGHTERS AND WOULD NEVER TOLARATE “SEXUAL EXPLOITATION” OF ANY SORT – TIME TO EXIT WITH GRACE, HILLARY, GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS. Sincerely, lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 29, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
OMG, are you part of the vast left-or-right-wing conspiracy that doesn’t believe in free speech? I can’t believe the disrespectful way that you spoke to me. Why are you engaging in sexism against males… are you a guy hater? I DEMAND THAT EVERY VOICE BE HEARD!
I am entitled to my views, it is my civil right. No, it’s a matter of HUMAN RIGHTS. This is not ZIMBABWE! Your attempt to suppress me is the same as denying the “hanging chads.” Are you the love child of Jim Baker?
You would like to believe that YOU are the best to protect the integrity of the electoral process but you are wrong… and I will say you “I Told You So” later.
I happen to know that I am more popular that you are and therfore more qualified because I got more valentines in second grade.
Yes, you may not have noticed but I CHANGED THE RULES. Valentines are the new “popularity meter.” (I always change the rules to suit ME because I would lose otherwise, and I CAN”T STAND LOSING!)
Posted by: Ed | May 29, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
OMG, are you part of the vast left-or-right-wing conspiracy that doesn’t believe in free speech? I can’t believe the disrespectful way that you spoke to me. Why are you engaging in sexism against males… are you a guy hater? I DEMAND THAT EVERY VOICE BE HEARD!
I am entitled to my views, it is my civil right. No, it’s a matter of HUMAN RIGHTS. This is not ZIMBABWE! Your attempt to suppress me is the same as denying the “hanging chads.” Are you the love child of Jim Baker?
You would like to believe that YOU are the best to protect the integrity of the electoral process but you are wrong… and I will say “I Told You So” later.
I happen to know that I am more popular that you are and therfore more qualified because I got more valentines in second grade.
Yes, you may not have noticed but I CHANGED THE RULES. Valentines are the new “popularity meter.” (I always change the rules to suit ME because I would lose otherwise, and I CAN”T STAND LOSING!)
Posted by: Ed | May 29, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
I’m sick of Hillary “ROTTEN” Clinton and all of her stupid supporters…
Her tactics, ethics, style, whining, and cheating is offensive. Especially the Kennedy comment. Let me inerpret….
If you are a poor, uneducated, “WHITE” working class, clinging to your gun, and you are on of those 2 out of 5 white folks who can’t see a black (actually half white) candidate in the WHITE house, and you are crazy enough to take Barack out, I, Hillary Clinton, will be grateful. And I would add that if and when I, Hillary Clinton, would make it into the WHITE house, I’ll find some way to pardon you to say thanks.
Superdelegates….END THIS NOW!!! Slap this crazy witch out on her @S$!!
And don’t even think VP. She would kill of Obama at the first chance she got just to be president.
Let’s remember…
Clintons + Vince Foster = DEAD
Clintons + Ron Brown = DEAD
Clintons + Jim McDougal = DEAD
Posted by: David King | May 29, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
The most important reason I could not vote for Hillary is that she is a manifest liar. The second reason is that she lacks the necessary foreign policy experience, to wit, her experience in Bosnia. How could I respect a leader who is in a plane that makes a “corkscrew landing” all the while fighting off snipers and the only backup she has is her then twelve-year-old daughter, a guitar player and a comedian. She could have at least brought along a sax player.
Posted by: rhbate | May 29, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
All you Obama haters, get use to the fact that he is going to be the nominee, and come fall, Obama will be our next President.
Posted by: Pat | May 29, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
All you Obama haters, get use to the fact that he is going to be the nominee, and come fall, Obama will be our next President.
Posted by: cleveland | May 29, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Per Jon Stewart it is a bi-wing-gual conspirisy. (lol)
Anti-Obama rhetoric is at this point in time pro-McSame.
If you really think Gramp’s is a better candidate then vote for him. The Hill shills can just quit it – nobody believes any of you nuts are serious or sincere.
NBD
Posted by: capt - Hussein | May 29, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Per Jon Stewart it is a bi-wing-gual conspirisy. (lol)
Anti-Obama rhetoric is at this point in time pro-McSame.
If you really think Gramp’s is a better candidate then vote for him. The Hill shills can just quit it – nobody believes any of you nuts are serious or sincere.
NBD
Posted by: capt - Hussein | May 29, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
No one seems to remember the lack of experience that GWB brought to the White House. Being governor or a “weak executive” state like Texas is nothing to crow about. The Speaker of the House has more real power than the governor.
Posted by: Nevis | May 29, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Hillary is a PAIN.
SHE’S AN ‘OUCH-CUBE’.
Maybe, If we just rub her with some ‘Head On’ , she’ll go away, gracefully, not like the SORE LOSER /FEAR MONGERER she’s proved to be.
Y’know… like…
HEAD ON
APPLY DIRECTLY TO HER FOREHEAD.
HEAD ON
APPLY DIRECTLY TO HER FOREHEAD.
HEAD ON
APPLY DIRECTLY TO HER FOREHEAD.
HEAD ON IS AVAILABLE AT THE HOWARD DEAN / DNC PHARMACY.
Posted by: HILLARY_WHO? | May 29, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
This is Not a Democracy, This is a Militarily Ran, Capitalist Society and Most of All….
This is a Republic, for which it Stands, One Nation, Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty & Justice for Some.
Posted by: o. | May 29, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Hilary should consider drop out the race as soon as posible before she affects more Obama’s Nomination as tne next President of the United Stares of America over Mcain.
Posted by: Jean | May 29, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Look – it’s easy. Does McCain understand the fears of Americans who make under 50k? Does he listen to over 60% of Americans who want us out of Iraq? The answer to both is NO. So – your only other choice is Obama.
Posted by: Bob | May 30, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
HILLARY IS THE BEST PERSON TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SHE IS A WOMAN, SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING, SHE IS FOR EACH PERSON IN AMERICA, SHE IS WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GO THAT EXTRA MILE TO HELP EACH PERSON IN AMERICA, WHAT MORE DO WE NEED.
OBAMA IS NOT THE BEST PERSON TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA. HE IS A LIER. HE IS BLACK, HE DOES NOT KNOW THE FIRST STEP TO TAKING CHARGE OF THE USA. HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE AMERICAN FLAG. HE DOES NOT WANT TO HURT HIS COUNTRY’S FEELING TO REPRESENT OUR FLAG. HE DOES NOT SPEAK THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BECAUSE IT HAS GOD IN IT. HE DOES NOT EVEN BELIEVE IN THE LORD ABOVE. HE WILL NOT EVEN CROSS HIS HEART WHEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLIEGIANCE IS BEING SPOKE NOR WILL HE SAY IT ALONG WITH THE USA.
WHAT TYPE OF PERSON ARE YOU GUYS VOTING FOR TO REPRESENT THE USA?? WE DONT NEED A PERSON LIKE THIS TO REPRESENT OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING FOR OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING EVERYBODY IN OUR COUNTRY INTO.
COLOR DOES HAS AN ISSUE IN THIS MATTER OF VOTING FOR THE RIGHT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE. LISTEN TO THE NEWS, RADIO’S, INTERNET BLOGS, INTERNET VIDEOS, AND WHATEVER ELSE SPEAKS/SHOWS TO US HOW AND WHAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALL ABOUT. I DONT HAVE TO POST IT ON HERE EVERYBODY KNOWS FROM HEARING AND SEEING IT ON THE NEWS EACH AND EVERY DAY AND NIGHT, WETHER IT BE THE NEWS THEY ARE EXPERIENCING THE BLACK CULTURE PERSONALLY THERESELVES. WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR OUR COUNTRY AND VOTE FOR THE WHITE. WE MIGHT OF BROUGHT THEM THINGS OVER HERE TO OUR COUNTRY (WHICH WAS THE WORST MISTAKE THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE DID IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES AND WE ARE SERIOUSLY REGRETTING IT NOW) BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.
Posted by: HILLARY YOU GO GIRL | June 3, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
HILLARY YOU GO GIRL HAS A POINT TO WHAT SHE HAS COMMENTED ON.
IF WE DONT SEE IT ON THE TELEVISION, THERE ARE WHITE PEOPLE OF THE USA THAT IS BEING BEAT ON, ADULTS AND CHILDREN BEING RAPED, BURGLARY’S, ROBBERIES, MUGGINGS, PURSE SNATCHINGS, KILLINGS, THEY KILL THEIR OWN KIND, DRUG SMUGGLING, DRUG DEALINGS, THE BLACKS ARE DOING THIS ALL THERESELVES, IF ANYTHING THEY STARTED IT AND THEN THEY GOT THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT HANG WITH THE BLACKS INVOLVED IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED STUFF. IF THE BLACKS DIDNT BRING IT THE WHITES WOULD NEVER OF INCLUDED THEIRSELVES IN IT. THE WHITES WERE SHOWN THIS ILL MANNERED BEHAVIOR BY THE BLACKS. WE DONT NEED TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS, WE THE WHITE NEED TO LEAD NOT FOLLOW. WE DONT NEED TO FOLLOW FROM A BLACK PRESIDENT REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY. ALSO, THE BLACK PERSON IS WHAT BROUGHT AIDS TO OUR COUNTRY, A BLACK MAN WENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO AFRICA AND HAD SEX WITH A AIDS INFECTED MONKEY AND BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE USA AND HAD UNPROTECTED SEX WITH A BUNCH OF FEMALE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT IS HOW AIDS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT TO OUR COUNTRY. THEY ARE SICK, DISGUSTING, DISCRIMINATING INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO GO AWAY, FAR, FAR, FAR, AWAY.
NEED I SAY MORE.
Posted by: NO BLACKS | June 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
WHY SHOULD THE USA VOTE A BLACK PERSON FOR PRESIDENT TO BEGIN WITH. WE NEVER HAD ONE IN THERE YET. SO LETS SEE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE WORTHLESS AND MEANINGLESS. THEY WILL DO NOTHING FOR OUR COUNTRY EXCEPT BRING MORE INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE GOVERNMENT AND EVERYTHING. WE DONT NEED THEM IN THERE. THERE IS ENOUGH THAT THEY ARE RUINING NOW IN THIS WORLD. THE WHITE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN TO SHREADS, IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS THE WHITE POPULATION IS GOING TO BE NOTHING. BECAUSE THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD BY THEN ARE GOING TO BE MIX BREEDS. PATHETIC ISNT IT. AND GUESS WHAT THE WHITE MAN WONT STAND UP TO THEM, BECAUSE THE BLACK MAN YELLS RACISM. BUT IT IS OKAY FOR THE BLACK TO DO ALL THIS SH*T TO THE WHITE AND NOTHING IS SUPPOSE TO BE SAID. WANNA KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THE BLACK WILL CALL IT RACISM. IF ANYONE IS RACIST IT IS THE BLACKS, NOT THE WHITES. WE JUST KNOW HOW AND WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. AND THAT IS NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, ASSAULT, DRUGS, AND THEY ARE WORTHLESS HUMAN BEINGS. NOTHING GOOD TO BRING TO THIS WORLD AT ALL. THE AFICANS OVER IN AFRICE DONT CONSIDER THE BLACKS OVER HERE IN THE USA AFRICAN AMERICANS, THE AFRICANS CALL THE BLACKS OVER HERE N*GGERS. THAT IS WHAT THE ARIFICANS CONSIDER THEM. THE AFRICANS DONT EVEN LIKE THE BLACKS OVER HERE AT ALL BECAUSE OF HOW AND WHAT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT. SO WHY VOTE FOR A BLACK PERSON TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 3, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
GOSH, A WHITE PERSON HAS STOOD UP AND SPOKE THEIR MIND AND THE BLACKS HAVENT MADE ANY COMMENTS BACK TO WHAT HAS BEEN SPOKEN UP ON HERE.
TO ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE, STAND UP AND SPEAK YOUR MIND.
IT SEEMS LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT WONT STAND UP TO THEM.
Posted by: goonies | June 3, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Thank you for standing up to comedian’s Carol Leifer negative comments about the Knights of Columbus during the Real Time with Bill Maher program. It is my hope she takes the time to learn about the wonderful charity works that the Knights of Columbus (www.kofc.org)and their families are involved in. Thank you for speaking up about the good that the Knights of Columbus is known for. I took note that Ms. Leifer, maybe out of respect to you, stopped her derogatory comments about the organization after your comments.
I am glad you are a man that stands up to his principles.
Posted by: Paul in Texas | October 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm