By Ed O'Keefe

May 9, 2008 2:20pm

Kennedy on Obama-Clinton Ticket: Dream On

ABC News’ Rick Klein Reports: In an interview with Al Hunt on Bloomberg TV, Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., an Obama supporter, has a particularly strong negative reaction to the idea of an Obama-Clinton ticket:

HUNT:  What’s your view of an Obama-Clinton ticket?

KENNEDY:  I don’t think it’s possible.

HUNT:  You don’t? And what type of vice president choice do you think he should make? What type of person?

KENNEDY: Well, the first is always a demand that you’re going to have someone that’s going to be able to assume the responsibility. I would hope that he would also give consideration to somebody that has –- is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people. And I think if we had real leadership –- as we do with Barack Obama –- in the number-two spot as well, it’d be enormously helpful.

The Democratic group VoteBoth dedicated to an Obama-Clinton or a Clinton-Obama ticket didn’t much like Kennedy’s thoughts.

"We respect Senator Kennedy’s opinions about what is best for the Party, but we think that the millions of Democrats who have voted for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have something to say, too. Why stop at having a nominee who has the support of 51% of Democrats when we could have a ‘Dream Team’ ticket that has won 100%?" spokesman Sam Arora said in a statement.

ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reported on Thursday’s "Good Morning America" on Thursday that "intermediaries" in the Obama and Clinton campaigns have resumed discussing the possibility of an Obama-Clinton "dream team" ticket.

"I think it’s very much a possibility and there are others around Sen. Clinton, D-N.Y., other top Democrats who think the strongest ticket would be a joint ticket," Stephanopoulos said this week.

The dream team ticket was discussed earlier this year, but fell by the wayside as both sides ramped up the rhetoric against each other, intensifying their battle for the Democratic nomination.

The talk has revived as Clinton now looks like an ultra-long shot for the presidential nomination, and her disappointed supporters are threatening to vote for presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., instead of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

"There are intermediaries discussing this very scenario," Stephanopoulos said on "GMA".

There is at least one problem with the scenario: Obama, the Democratic frontrunner, might not want Clinton on the ticket.

When asked whether he would take Clinton as his vice presidential running mate during a chaotic visit to Capitol Hill Thursday, Obama told reporters, "I think its premature for us to be thinking in that way, because I don’t know who the nominee is going to be yet. It’s not yet resolved."

Howard Wolfson, the Clinton campaign’s communications director, denied that she is interested in the vice president spot.

"She said that’s not something she would accept," Wolfson told "GMA."

Al Hunt’s full interview with Sen. Ted Kennedy will air on Friday’s Political Capital at 7:30pm ET on Bloomberg Television and will rebroadcast through the weekend.

User Comments

Oh, yeah. Big daddy is helping with choosing a VP now. He might just want to move in with Bo.

Posted by: Boneheaded, Chicago | May 9, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

HAHAHAHAHA!!! OMG, Kennedy used the words “real leadership” and “Obama” in the same sentence!!! Goodness, he must have gotten payment from Obama to say that. Mark my words, DNC: If Obama gets your nomination, I will not only vote Repub for the first time in my life, I will also campaign for McCain. It is no longer an issue of Dem vs Repub, but a matter of saving our country. Obama the dangerous liar can not be put in the white house. THERE ARE MANY WHO FEEL THIS WAY, DO YOU WANT TO RISK OUR VOTE?

Posted by: doublestandard | May 9, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Hillary kind of needs it huh? Chances are (because she had a low ceiling in her own “home” state (since she had what 5 “home” states during this primary?)
chances are she won’t be able to be re elected next time around…. sad…just sad what a waste.

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

geevill get a job.
How is it possible to troll all day on every single
thread?
Some people have no life.

Posted by: Mickey Blue | May 9, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Mary
hillary is not a moderate democrat…if your definition is calling Barack the extreme…Hillary is right there with them…oh besides she likes to tell the world we will “obliterate Iran” and that the Presidency should have limited restriction from the congress in doing so”
I guess it makes her a hawk so that takes her out of the left wing and puts her in the center…oh that’s great.

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Kennedy wants to be perceived as a king maker. Maybe he is. He managed to get John McCain a real chance at the White House in an election where the Republicans had a 1 in 5 chance of winning and now it is better than 3 in 5.
Way to go, Teddy. Following in Ol’ Joe’s footsteps. He went hard left too as Ambassador when he endorsed the Third Reich.
No, Godwin’s Law does not apply, Kids.

Posted by: len | May 9, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

When you look at who is actually complaining about a joint ticket, its Pelosi and Kennedy.
This means they are the ones pulling the strings behind Obama, and that was what this was really about the whole time.
They want control of the party, and having Hillary on the ticket cramps their style.
Not having her on the ticket puts his chances of winning in serious jepardy however.
He has not won the blue collar white vote. He never has. They are loyal to clinton and Mc Cain is a real alternative to them.
Obama will have to pick some guy who has blue collar appeal, but I highly doubt it will make up for Obamas liberal appeal.
When you have the loser of the nomination running BETTER against Mc Cain and winning all the major primiaries, you would think how easy a choice it would be to pick her.
It just goes to show how full of it the democratic insiders are.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 9, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

and Len
the only three people that got McCain closer to being President
was Bill Hill and Jeremiah.
(and the former two…are still at it)

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

this relentless and totally unnecessary hateful rhetoric by the elitist fat-cats like kennedy have done more damage to the possibility of ‘party unity’ come novemeber than all the negative campaigning by both candidates. instead of promoting ‘unity’ and cohesion they (kennedy, kerry, richardson, pelosi, dean) and other party leaders continue to alienate clinton supporters. thanks, we get the message and we will respond by not supporting obama, the fat-cats, and all endorsers, at the state level as well. i did not leave the party the party left me. democracy before party loyalty, count all the votes.

Posted by: sonia trevino | May 9, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

There can be only one perfect choice. The VP needs to be a strong Democrat. Compassionate, driven, and willing to walk this new path. This candidate also needs to be able to deal with women who will only vote for a woman.
As soon as Obama announces Nancy Pelosi as his running mate, Hillary will be an asterisk in History!

Posted by: DAVID NH | May 9, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Senator Kennedy sounds as disgusted by the Clintons’ campaign tactics as many others are.
A “dream ticket” would pair Senator Obama with someone who has shown the integrity, character, judgment and steadfast leadership (with principles) that he has.
That person may be Webb, or Richardson, or someone completely different. But. Not. Hillary.

Posted by: Julie from LA | May 9, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Sen. Hillary Clinton should consider running independently! The polls indicate that she can win–she can beat both Obama and McCain in a three way match-up!

Posted by: charleschaplin | May 9, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

the vp choice could be Rendell too.

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

charleschaplin excellent thought provoking post. thank you

Posted by: sonia trevino | May 9, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Okay, really can Kennedy just retire. I mean he has never really done anything but feed of JFK reputation. We all know his pass and we all know he is mad at the Clintons. For all we know he may be trying to get the nomination. I feel for Obama because he has sold his soul to the Kennedy’s and I am sure Teddy will be collecting.

Posted by: Storm | May 9, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Let’s review the Dems’ battle again:
Obama won 10 “black” states and 6 “white” states from primaries and 13 states from caucuses
Hillary won 17 states (most of blue states) from primaries and 1 state from caucus….
The pattern is very clear to either candidate: Hillary won most states from primaries and Obama dominated caucuses..

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

A good choice would be Edwards since he already has experience with losing in the GE. He’d make a great shoulder for Obama to cry on when he gets humiliated in the GE. Plus he has great hair.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

We all may be over – reacting. There are very few people who will consent to be VP – to McCain.
I think the short list is down to Limbaugh. In other words, there’s always hope that McCain will do himself in for us.
I can see it now, a prime time debate. Obama, in his customary Obama suit and McCain, resting with his chin on his chest, snoring peacefully.

Posted by: DAVID NH | May 9, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Didn’t Obama already promise the VP slot to Richardson? Or did he just pay off his campaign debt?

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 9, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Doesn’t matter who he chooses, because neither one of them will ever step foot in the White House, unless they are invited by President McCain.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

and dl
we will finish the work they started.
McCain will be the next President. We may not like it, but it is the choice for America.

Posted by: len | May 9, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Hillary should run as an independent .Democratic party in it’s well known tendency to pick leftist liberals will jump off the cliff with Obama again.They just don’t know how to pick a candidate who has a broader appeal than uppity liberals and certain ethnic groups.Shame on you Democrats.I am a Hillary supporter and would NEVER EVER support an Obama nomination .

Posted by: Vic | May 9, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

dl
Most Clinton supporters arent stupid. Its one thing to support Obama to unify the party.
But when Kennedy makes idiot noise that Bill and Hillary Clinton arent part of the party in any meaningful way, well then we have a serious problem.
The clinton support is very deep support. Its not fly by night support that just happened to come about , like the Obama support.
You dont chuck Bill and Hillary Clinton into the garbage can , and then expect all their millions of supporters to then vote for Obama.
So its actually you who is stupid.
Chucking Bill and Hillary into the garbage can does NOT unify the party.
It splits it in half.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 9, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Kennedy is as arrogant as Obama. Why he thinks we would care what he thinks of HIllary is beyond me. His whole family is rather limited in their ability to tell the truth and lead upstanding lives. His brothers were very less than perfect, he definitely ahas done some very questionable acts in his life; John Jr. was nothing but a womanizer and used his name to justify his self-serving life and we could go on about the rest of the Kennedy clan, but why. Talk about old politics and cover-ups. Yeh, I will follow whatever Ed Kennedy has to say as much as I will Obama’s.

Posted by: Kris | May 9, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Kennedy sounds like he is losing his bearings. I guess leaving a woman to die clouds his judgment.
EXACTLY

Posted by: al | May 9, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

absolutely not richardson on obamas ticket that would solidify the pro clinton hispanic vote against obama. the man is a traitor. we elected him twice and felt betrayed by his obama endorsement, after NM supported hillary in the primary. likewise hispanics nationwide have largely supported hillary as well. i could have been ok with the endorsement however after his vile hateful attacks on hillary (on larry king) that was the final straw for richardson and or anybody he endorses on the state level.

Posted by: sonia trevino | May 9, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Today alone… the Obama campaign has picked up 6 SDs

Posted by: Vanessa | May 9, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

In 2012 she’ll be to frail and feeble to run for the presidency.
Unless you mean a Senate run.

Posted by: Vanessa | May 9, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Kennedy is a true has been. A wealthy slob who is full of remorse and just wants to show the world how liberal he is. His babble means nothing. Even his home state voted for Hillary over Obama even though they had no trouble electing an African-American Govenor. The psople of Mass. are not dumb and they knew a loser when they saw one.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

I don’t understand how people who support Hillary and her positions can vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee. Hillary’s — and most Democrats’ — positions on so many issues are very different from McCain’s and most Republicans’. The same goes for Obama supporters who threaten to vote for McCain if Hillary is the nominee. I suppose some people are so swept up by the personalities and nastiness of the campaign that they forget the real issues.

Posted by: Alex | May 9, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

lol Nice Impersonation

Posted by: Vanessa | May 9, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

What would he do in the White House without the excuse or ability to vote Present? He’ll be too busy slacking and eating waffles to make any important decisions anyway I guess.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Don’t be surprised if Obama’s VP is
Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico!

Posted by: reaganfan | May 9, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

frisco girl, you sound like a bitter old woman. It’s time for the future not the Clintons of the past.

Posted by: d | May 9, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

To Alex, Hillary supporters don’t understand how Obama supporters are all mindless kool aid drinking idiots. We will vote for anyone but Obama – just read a few of the posts from cretin Obamanations and you will understand how Obama has now managed to alienate 50% of the democratic party – that would be Hillary supporters:)

Posted by: calli | May 9, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Nat , I got one for you. He exposed his children to the words of the most hateful racist I have ever heard speak and I have always lived in the south with no shortage of racists. The cult that is Wright’s “church” and the videos to come are something Hillary could not present in her ads but you are going to see so much more and I honestly believe that after the convention Obama will not be the nominee and that he will lose in his Senate re-election.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I partially agree “Vanessa”… We don’t need ALL Clinton supporters. It would nice to have ALL but we don’t need ALL.
With 60% of Clinton voters and the Independent and Republicans Obama bring…it’s enough win the GE

Posted by: Vanessa | May 9, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

THE DREAM TICKET WOULD BE McCAIN HILLARY TICKET.
THEY BOTH ARE WAR MONGERS ONE WANTS TO KEEP THE WAR -THE OTHER WANTS TO OBLIVERAY COUNTRYS
NOW THAT’S A REPUBLICAN DREAM.
HILLARY IS NOW SAYING SHE IS GOING TO TAKE ON OPEC – AN OTHER WAR!!!
WOW I AM IMPRESSED

Posted by: ghm1 | May 9, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

kennedy is one of the most hated men in politics. without scruples, he is reckless, influenced his nieces and nephews into drinking, drank and drove and a girl died. he and obama belong together. we southern whites will show you yankees what the solid south is all about come november. nominate an ultra liberal obama and you will have 4 more years of republican rule. mccain will win 40 states, obama 10. mark my word.

Posted by: ron | May 9, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Hillary fans take heart. The Democratic Party can do whatever it want at the convention. If more bad stuff about Mr. Obama pops up the delegates are free to switch their votes.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Kennedy has been dying to get into the whitehouse.

Posted by: moose howl | May 9, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

I used to actually respect Kennedy, then last summer started thinking twice about him during the whole amnesty/open the borders fiasco. After his behavior this election cycle, any positive thoughts I had for him are gone…..same goes for many of the old time dem “leaders.” The party is now a bunch of liberal pansies. Either it’s the growing older and wiser phase of my life that is setting in, or the light bulb has finally turned on for me that there is something to being a bit more conservative and holding people responsible for their own actions or lack thereof. Either way, the dem party does not represent this average American any longer.

Posted by: Ex-dem | May 9, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

you treated hillary with comtempt and the president too; the only dem to be reelected since FDR; that is it for me; the party wants obama, kerry, dukakis et al…i am out of here. last white dem in the south, turn out the lights…the party is already the party of mostly blacks; now it will be the party of blacks. good luck winning elections. MCCain for president

Posted by: ron | May 9, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

I said we need Hillary Supporters. But we don’t need ALL. It would be nice to have all but we don’t NEED all.
Independents and Obamaicans will make up for the deficit

Posted by: Vanessa | May 9, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

No democrat has ever won after been endorsed by this stupid Kennedy.
He did not endorse Bill Clinton until the convention and we know Bill was one of the greatest democratic president.
Dream on Kennedy!!!

Posted by: Jack | May 9, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Since white are losers and racist I tell you what let all the whites vote for McCain and Obama can have all the AA, then lets count the votes and see who wins

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Though I am a long time Democrat I have to admire the Republicans. They did not make a mistake when they picked McCain. Even though they had to hold their noses, because he so often voted contrary to the party line he is the one Republican that can use that to get many votes in the coming election. The G.O.P. is at a low point and averybody hates them but by running a rebel Republican they showed political genius. Hillary had a good chance Obama has not a prayer and I hope he does not ask Wright to pray for him because I really don’t think ole Wright is really in touch with God.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

I encourage all you supporters of fairness in America, and a meaningful end to the war in Iraq to support senator Obama. I realize you are passionate about Clinton, but the majority of folks in America want senator Obama to be president. Please allow yourselves to heal and let us forget about race (skin color….so superficial) and let us focus on what is right…..Obama for 2008

Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 9, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

you forget the end of the story
Obama the tortoise gets run over and squashed by McCain’s bus on way to election as President.

Posted by: geevill | May 9, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Obama-Clinton is the only viable ticket – as of this minute. no other Dem names are really a good fit for Obama. He’s dead on both accounts if he goes with someone with his own inexperienced background (call it for what it is, good or bad) or a pol with years of D.C. history. Hillary’s a good mix and might appease the vengeful whites.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | May 9, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Vanessa if you lose even 25% of the Hillary supporters you will lose. You don’t have enough republicans & independents to make up for it.

Posted by: Jo | May 9, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I agree with the Nantucket Drunk – Hillary should not even consider running with Obama…
Let Obama sink or swim on his own…If he wins fine, if he loses fine – But let Pelosi, Teddy, Kerry, Dukakis see how difficult it is to Win a General Election against the GOP.
Over the last 3 decades, only one Democrat has won the Presidency. Over half a century – since the last Democrat has Won 2 terms in office – This is the same person and his name is
CLINTON!
Best of Luck, Obama supporters – Believe me – you’ll need it!

Posted by: Jacob Ezekial | May 9, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

clinton won’t get out of the race because her surrogates are busy trying to manufacture a new smear against Obama. Last I heard, they were almost ready to push this scandal out to the media.
So she’ll be ready, on day one.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | May 9, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Nice try d: Typical Obama tactic. Call the other side names and then ask “why are you angry”? Sounds like an abusive husband come to think of it. Obama did call us (now purged from the party blue collar voters) bitter, and now you are too. It’s okay. I will be happily pushing the button for anyone but Obama in the fall. Obama and his cretin supporters have bid Hillary and her 50% voting block bye bye!

Posted by: frisco girl | May 9, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Obama should pick another AA like his self for his running mate, since he has the interest of all AA, I don’t see why he should shy away from doing that, am sure he can find someone just like him.
Just think what talking points that would make not one AA in the WH but two, what could be better than that, I say go for it Obama show them what it all about pick another AA as your running mate.

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

NO JOKE, this would be the crapiest ticket out there. One honest guy, one liar. Not exactly a dream ticket to me. It would RUIN his chances and he would need to hire a full time food taster.

Posted by: JJ | May 9, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Hillary doesn’t want to be VP. But maybe she would like to be the gov of NY.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

2 more superdelegates for Obama

Posted by: LA in Indiana | May 9, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

President Bush, Vice President Cheney and “dumb” Rice have turned this Great Nation into a MESS with their constant lies.
Kennedy knows this and this is why he is “backing” Obama. This is the first “right thing” he has done in a long time. Hillary votes Bush’s way which is why she can not win. President Bush is by far the worse most useless President we have ever had in this history of America. He has virtually destroyed the Dollar, record deficits, gave money away like water, etc.

Posted by: Bob | May 9, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

President McCain – the moderate democrats’ choice.

Posted by: KLO | May 9, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Obama is being racist if he looks for a white person for his running mate. That is not what this is about, think of the history this will be two AA one president one vp, man it will be breaking news around the world.
What about all this untapped AA votes still out there, Obama can then tap into those also, that is the true spirit of this black liberation theology that they are so happy to speak about.
Obama don’t be a sell out now get that AA running mate, show the world how much you are into black consciousness, to do other wise will raise doubts. All white presidents had white VP’s so why should a AA President have a white VP?

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Tell it the way ti is Sen. Kennedy !
The Clinton has shown their true color!
As a 60 year old Native American I have never seen blatant racism by senior Political Leaders in the USA, like Sen. Hillary Clinton & Pres. Bill Clinton! I know that most American will not give a damn about what I am about to say, but I will say it: “THE WORLD IS WATCHING,” “YOU ARE ARMING OUR ENEMIES,”
America needs to be strong and to lead the world – Do not air our “DIRTY LAUNDRY TO THE WORLD”. Sen Obama has the widest support of Americans – from Julie Nixon, Rev. Sharpton, Sen Kennedy all the way to a Social Democrat- Michael More! Come on over all the Clinton supporters, do it for the Democrats, and for the USA. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Hillary’s key demographic is white women over 50 or 55.
If anyone thinks these women are going to abandon their daughters and grandaughers rights (which these same women fought for) to judges selected during the Third and Fourth Bush Term, then u have lost your bearings.
That’s all.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | May 9, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

frisco girl, once again read your post to me. Sorry, but you do sound bitter. You can vote for who you want I really don’t care. But don’t take your anger out on Obama supporters. And talk about calling people names. And not all Hillary supporters will leave the party like you think, nice try.

Posted by: d | May 9, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Ted Kennedy hates the Clintons because they know how to win the presidency. It’s jealousy, pure and simple.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 9, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

The country doesn’t need another Jimmy Carter in the White House. Far left policies didn’t work then and they won’t work now.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

There will be more crossover voting this election than anytime in history. Few Republicans will cross to Obama, of course, but because of the way Republican ads will portray Obama, and probably correctly, millions of Democrats will take the plunge to vote against him. What many do not understand is that the bad stuff is yet to come. Hillary being a Democrat could not show a video of Wright’s cold, cruel, week of 9/11 sermon where he, without feeling for the victims or their grieving families screamed at his audience and listed reasons why the attacks were justified. This was a “sermon” in his “church”. Even countries who do not much like the US expressed sorrow but not Wright. That was 6 years ago and Obama stayed with Wright and in his Philadelphis speech tried to portray Wright as an “eccentric uncle”. The coming ads will show his speaking favorably of Wright juxtoposed with Wright’s hateful sermon.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

So why are the Obama supporters not happy with another AA being Obama’s running mate is there a problem with that ?

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I hope all dems realize that these blogs are infiltrted by Rep’s giving themselves off as dems. Sort of like the continuation of operation chaos. The Reps does not have any real issues so the Reps are betting their political destiny on a divide and conquer approach, Whats good for America is secondary!

Posted by: jld1959 | May 9, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I agree with Kennedy- and I dislike Kennedy tremendously. But there’s one teeny weeny aspect of this idea that will lose Senator Obama numerous votes- including mine: HOW CAN YOU RUN A PLATFORM ABOUT CHANGE AND INVITE THE CLINTONS BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE? I’m not buying it. (But then as she’s said, I’m dillusional…)
Secondly, on a different tact, the Clintons, for many of us symbolize greed and corruption, certainly the opposite of Obama’s message of bring integrity back to the White House.
And last, WITH OVER 50 SUICIDES AND DEATHS HAPPENING TO PEOPLE WHOM THE CLINTONS JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE KINDA NEEDED GONE, I AND NUMEROUS OBAMA SUPPORTERS FEAR, WHETHER SOUR GRAPES OR THE V.P. SPOT, OBAMA WILL BE KILLED.
THAT’S A FACT. THAT WE FEAR THIS.

Posted by: Kay | May 9, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

sj,
Why all the hate ! The world are watching, do you care? You are arming the enemies – more reasons to hate Americans abroad – you seem not to give a damn. Come on now, get hold of yourself, do it for the Democrats and for America. United we stand, Divided we fall! Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

I find the idea that Ted Kennedy has clout as ludicrous as the idea that Obama will be President.
But what do I know? I am a Clinton supporter who believes that a nominee must be elected with all 50 states. I think if Obama is given the nominee without counting all the votes, then not only is he not a legitimate candidate, the Democratic party will have sold their souls to the same god that run the republican party.
Remember 2000?
I will personally be a democrat who will go to San Francisco and help defeat Pelosi in the mid-terms.
Afterall, I would rather my party survive than the power hungry individuals who want to control it.
Obama will not have my vote if he is given the nomination.
I am a Democrat and this is not how we do things. This is not Hope. This is not Change. This is not what the party is all about.

Posted by: Gabe Polson, The Woodlands,TX | May 9, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Kennedy – couldnt remember to save is secretary when she drowned due to his drunk driving accident, now he wants to be king maker. Amazing!

Posted by: NYCStylez | May 9, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

WOW! Obama has no chance of winning the White House without Clinton. Besides, she deserves better than the #2 slot especially to a rookie. What leadership exactly is Kennedy talking about?? Obama has done nothing, proven nothing in his short political life…as well as being the most liberal voter in the Senate and should I list the number of issues he has flip-flopped on?? It’s a long list.
People are so enthralled by his speeches like he’s the Messiah but I would rather take my chances with Hillary. Experience counts when our nation is in such dire straits. Obama is a train wreck waiting to happen and I sure hope people wake up to it before it’s too late.
BTW, what will Obama and the DNC say when Clinton literally blows him away in West Virginia and Kentucky?

Posted by: Trish | May 9, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Doesn’t matter to me. I’m not voting for Clinton as VP. Voting for her as president. In short, I will vote for McCain if Obama gets nominated as dem candidate for president. Will never change my decision.

Posted by: giz | May 9, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Since 1976, the Clintons record in seeking office is as follows:
1976- Bill elected Ark. Attorney Gen.
1978- Bill elected Ark Gov.
1980- Bill loses Ark Gov.
1982-1992- Bill re-elected Ark Gov.
1992-2000- Bill elected Pres.
2000-present- Hillary elected to the U.S. Senate
The Clintons stand on a record of incredible electoral success. That is the fact.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 9, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

I read what Vanessa wrote and I repeat: OBAMA SUPPORTERS WILL DESTROY HIS CHANCES OF WINNING IN 2008.

Posted by: NYCStylez | May 9, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Obama should pick someone who’s experienced in government but not from DC. A governor or mayor of a major city. Ideally, someone more moderate and female.

Posted by: X marks the spot | May 9, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Trish, Hillary is expected to win WV and Kentucky. But it won’t give her the delegate count to catch up with Obama.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

hopesprings: Over all of those years of experience, Hillary is only mentioned once?

Posted by: X marks the spot | May 9, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

I Think it’s obvious – there is not intention to have any Female run for the Executive. The media will make sure the White House remains an all boys club.

Posted by: NYCStylez | May 9, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

All Hillary Supporters – its time to board the McCain ’08 bus -
McCain – has the best record on the environment, has a record of working with both sides of the aisle, will cut spending, will cut taxes, promote free trade, improve the value of the dollar and will be beneficial to Women, Hispanics, Blacks White Blue-Collars .
McCain will not be divisive on race or gender…Not to mention the elderly…
We’re gonna WIN: TX OH FL IN WV KY PA MA NM AZ NH -
Wait lets stop here -
McCain is in the White House if he wins: FL OH WV and NH…
Straight Talk Express – All Aboard – Welcome Camp Hillary!!!

Posted by: Jacob Ezekial | May 9, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Obama is sleeze on wheels. He was caught, in the Wisconsin primary, speaking, almost word for word, part of a speech that had been used by Deval Patrick when he campaigned for the Mass. Govenorship. Patrick was sucessful and is an African-American. This was when many realized that Obama is running a copy-cat campaign. His sleezy background in Chicago is yet to be fully explored. I dearly hope that the Party can find a way to dump this bum.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

United we stand for the United States of America. I’ve lost respect for the Democratic party and their leadership(?), with their backbones of jello, for the way they’ve handled this joke of a nomination process.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Obama netted a gain of 9 SupaDs so far today.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | May 9, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Kennedy trashes Clinton by saying
that she will not be on the ticket because “I think if we had real leadership –- as we do with Barack Obama –- in the number-two spot as well, it’d be enormously helpful.” Clinton supporters are listening closely to these outrageous insults and will remember them at general election time.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 9, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

USA ! USA!
Come on Archie Bunkers & George Jeffersons were fictatious characters showing how “STUPID” Americans of the 1960s were – this is the 21 st Century – get with the program. THE WORLD IS WATCHING ! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING ! WE DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW BILL &HILLARY IN THE GUTTER. UNITED WE STAND ! DIVIDED WE FALL! Do it for the DEMOCRATS and do it for the U.S.A. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

USA ! USA!
Come on Archie Bunkers & George Jeffersons were fictatious characters showing how “STUPID” Americans of the 1960s were – this is the 21 st Century – get with the program. THE WORLD IS WATCHING ! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING ! WE DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW BILL &HILLARY IN THE GUTTER. UNITED WE STAND ! DIVIDED WE FALL! Do it for the DEMOCRATS and do it for the U.S.A. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

I think every one should stop bickering, take a deep breath and examine their own values. Candidates come, candidates go, the party endures. So if you are a Dem first and foremost, go with the people’s mandate,vote the nominee who seems to be on track to win this fair and square. If you are a die-hard Clinton man/woman, vote McCain, its your vote after all. No need to to squabble, no need for things to get ugly. Remember, we used to be decent folk before all this started.
For me, Mrs Clinton is not the right person to be my president. I’m an Asian American woman,neither Black nor White, so I don’t feel invited to Mrs. C’s “hard-working Americans, white Americans” world, and I guess I’m a just a tad bitter.
Also,my parents worked hard and made sacrifices to get me a good education and I think the Clinton campaign’s anti-education stand disrespects their efforts. I am 100% commited that my kids also get the best education this country has to offer and a candidate who knocks college education and scoffs expert opinion is just not the candidate for me. She makes a bad role model for our kids and we should speak out against it.

Posted by: MM | May 9, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

MR
look at the numbers of people switching to democrat…look at the numbers of the primaries alone…
if either candidate lost just 20% of the others voters…they would still win.
so maybe you should check your numbers…
considering the polls showing McCain vs. obama and Clinton vs. Obama that have now been taken at the height of Obama’s worst weeks show either a tie or Obama winning…
the dirty little secret that no one acknowledges in all of the polls…is that those polls obviously would include all those angry people who would vote for McCain rather than the other candidate…
so before you go preaching to “D” to check numbers…check your own… because they are wrong…McCain will lose by a landslide even if those people in the polls who said, out of anger they would not vote for the other candidate voted that way, McCain would still lose.
and when it’s the general and people are faced with the economy, the war, overturning roe vs. wade, healthcare, the housing market, our standing in the world and it’s increasing influence on our lack of safety and security…as well as economy…
Not may are going to be that angry … to vote just out of spite. people for the most part aren’t that dumb.

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Yeah and Kenedie can dream of votes…not getting mine again ever. No vote for Bo and whoever.
Well Kenedie he should live so long!

Posted by: HP Boston | May 9, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

I don’t get it. If Hillary doesn’t win you’ll vote for McCain. That’s your personal choice but why post it here, just do it. It’s not like anyone cares.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

LA in Indiana. I do not recall reading anyone saying they would not vote for Obama because of the color of his skin. I would guess that maybe some did though. I know that I would vote for anybody qualified and I swear to that here in writing. I speak against and dislike Obama because I am very political. I donate, I write to the editor, ect., and I am very upset. Florida and Michigan should have been allowed consideration. The only reason that supers are defecting to Obama is to get the fighting stopped but they should jump in the lake, the cowards.

Posted by: bruce | May 9, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Obama supporters realy need to start bracing themselves for a defeat this November. Your overconfident, overly stated “Yes We Can” chant has really made you lose your bearings. You Can’t.

Posted by: Jack | May 9, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Ted–you and your corrupt little haven of Kennedy arrogance cannot be taken seriously. Your treatment of Hillary will always be remembered and it is clear that it starts in your own home state, which will go for McCain in November. Nope–we all know what you are–a cheesy, opportunistic FF who thinks because he couldn’t get into the White House on his dead brothers (both) coattails, that he should be able to promote a typical kennedy, mysogynistic view of politics. Men come first in your seedly little family and that is precisely why you left Mary J. in the water.

Posted by: swoosie | May 9, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Well, obviously both Hillary and Obama supporters are just trying to get a rise out of each other.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

I do think that Obama is better than Hillary on the war issue, but Obama moves down a notch for accepting support from someone involved in (wo)manslaughter. I will vote 3rd party or write in Ron Paul. Enough of these crooked, special interest serving politicians.

Posted by: huh | May 9, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Michelle Obama – Now is the first time in her adult life that she is ‘Proud to be an American!’
99% of the U.S. population don’t get a chance to go to Princeton – Michelle did…
99% of the population don’t get a chance to attend Harvard..Michelle did..
99.99% dont get a chance to attend Both Princeton and Harvard – Michelle did…
Michelle wasn’t Proud or wasn’t she an adult when the Soviet Union cam tumbling down?
Michelle wasn’t Proud or wasn’t she an adult when Americans from all around the country helped those in NY DC and PA affected by 9/11?
Michelle wasn’t proud or wasn’t she an adult when Bill Gates/Warren Buffett organized a charity with billions of dollars to provide care for 3′rd World Countries facing: Hunger, AIDS, Malaria and dengue fever?
Michelle wasn’t proud or wasn’t she an adult when our troops protect our freedom everyday by sacrificing themselves for everyone in this Great Country ?
There is not much of a difference between Wright and Michelle Obama’s outlook on America -
Now, how much of a difference is there between Michelle and Barack? Thats WRIGHT – None!

Posted by: Jacob Ezekial | May 9, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Hope and dream all you want, although you will have to face the reality that the “values voters” that voted for Bush over Kerry(we were at war and the economy was in the tank then too) will never, ever vote for Obama.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Obama’s culted fans continuously trashed and disgraced Hillary’s supporters, it only proved again and again Obama is a divider NOT a uniter, it deems Obama will loose G.E…
Americans will put their country first and will vote for the one who is the best to lead United States of America..
Obama has no way to unite Dems…Simply his path to W.H. is a death valley….
BTW, W.H. is called White House Not “Black” House…

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Now what is funny is that am saying let Obama get another AA as his running mate and some seem to have a problem with that.
I don’t see why there should be a problem, if there is such pleasure in having the first AA as POTUS just think of the double pleasure this will bring.
I don’t see way the first AA man being the nominee needs to go looking for a Latino, white or any other person of a different ethnic make up other than his own , what is the reason for that?
What some of you feel two AA cant win a GE, if you feel one can two should be in all thinking a stronger ticket.

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Either Bloomberg or Pelosi for VP and Hillary for Secretary of State, a much more powerful position then VP. I can’t see someone with Hillary’s drive and Bill’s experience being locked up in the VP slot.

Posted by: Leah | May 9, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Either Bloomberg or Pelosi for VP and Hillary for Secretary of State, a much more powerful position then VP. I can’t see someone with Hillary’s drive and Bill’s experience being locked up in the VP slot.

Posted by: Leah | May 9, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

‘COME TOGETHER NOW ! FOR THE DEMOCRATS!”
“FOR THE USA” FOR THE FREE WORLD! FOR HUMANITY ! PEACE, LOVE AND THE FELLOSHIP OF ALL!
Please remember to send Archie Bunker & George Jefferson to get Hillary Clinton’s “BAGGAGES” -This is not the 1970s, this is the 21 st Century and the world is CHANGING – try it you will enjoy it! COME ON OVER ALL THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS, SHE IS NOT WORKING FOR A PAYCHECK, SHE HAS $109,000,000 TRUST FUND (The Tax & Liability Avoidance Fund) PLEASE DO NOT LET HER USE YOU – SHE IS DESPERATE ! COME ON OVER AND SUPORT THE DEMOCRATS AND THE U.S.A..
Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

‘COME TOGETHER NOW ! FOR THE DEMOCRATS!”
“FOR THE USA” FOR THE FREE WORLD! FOR HUMANITY ! PEACE, LOVE AND THE FELLOSHIP OF ALL!
Please remember to send Archie Bunker & George Jefferson to get Hillary Clinton’s “BAGGAGES” -This is not the 1970s, this is the 21 st Century and the world is CHANGING – try it you will enjoy it! COME ON OVER ALL THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS, SHE IS NOT WORKING FOR A PAYCHECK, SHE HAS $109,000,000 TRUST FUND (The Tax & Liability Avoidance Fund) PLEASE DO NOT LET HER USE YOU – SHE IS DESPERATE ! COME ON OVER AND SUPORT THE DEMOCRATS AND THE U.S.A..
Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Choose Dennis Kucinich for the Veep. Bet ya, BO will choose Dennis for attempting to get Ohio, or Bo will choose someone like Dennis.
A far left teams up with a even farther left. It will make moveon happier too.

Posted by: veep guy | May 9, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Obama/ Deval that is a good ticket, think about.

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Isn’t there anyone to run against Teddy Kennedy in Massachusetts?

Posted by: sherr | May 9, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Chester Arthur..?
Does anyone think Hillary would stand up for the elected president’s ideals if something were to happen to him?Though I personaly don’t like Hillary, worse people have.

Posted by: Austin | May 9, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

No one ever bowed down to Bush so why in heavens should they bow to Obama? Keep dreaming Nat

Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Lou,
I agree with you.

Posted by: catleya | May 9, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

I honestly think it will be Edwards. They think almost exact. It would be nice if he asks Collin Powell also. I know he is Rep. but after all it is all about change.

Posted by: Becky | May 9, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

how about Obama girl for VP?

Posted by: Jack | May 9, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

You McCain And Obama supporters actually think that you are in control now. You have NO control over anything, it is the MEDIA and the POWER TO Be that have controlled who will be running in the general election. They have brain washed so many into blaming the Clintons for everything. If your car does not start or it rains, then hell it is the Clintons fault. They want someone elected that they can CONTROL and not someone like the Clintons that will fight them. First they took control so Bush would be elected on the theme of everyone working together and change and we all know how that turned out. Then they used scare tactics to get Bush re-elected and NOW it change that will never happen because they have the control NOT Obama or McCain. This election is NOT about what the people want, NO it is about what THEY have decided is best. The Clintons have PROVEN that they will fight for the working people and yes they have lied and have friends that are not nice but that is every politician. The people will be NO better off than the last 8 years weather McCain Or Obama wins. The best man, Edwards was sent packing by the media and no one gave it a second thought.

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 9, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Simply if you are Dems’ loyalist, vote for your party; if you are American, vote for your country……

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Clinton should get OUT she is the winner of the stupid award<<<<Billy comes in second.The can't buy the White House.With all this crap she won't even win New York again…

Posted by: h | May 9, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Hillary won’t take the VP slot assuming that it will be offered—it won’t. The only chance she has of being president is in 2012. If Obama is elected president she won’t have a chance in 12. While she is running against him she can do everything possible to ensure that he doesn’t get elected president in the general election. If McCain wins then he will be too old in 12 to run again. The field will be open for her. However, I think that demographis will be against her in 12 and she will fail.

Posted by: Gary | May 9, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Who care about VP. I already cross the party line to McCain

Posted by: maleasiansmoker | May 9, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

I love the guy (Mack) who says “we were in war and the economy was in the tank then too” referencing the Kerry election…lol
yeah the economy the housing market the expense and death toll of the war the gas prices
none of that was here.
and we had not replaced two justices… remember sandra day o’connor…yeah she’s gone now… one more and the court will be a different entity all together.

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

i’m a clinton supporter and i will vote against obama even IF he names Clinton his VP. i’m sickened by Obama’s snakelike, sleazy, hypocritical campaign. no democrat has done more for America than the Clinton’s and some naive community organizer is destroying their legacy, mocking the best 8 years America has had in last half century!

Posted by: ryan | May 9, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

I am some freaken sick of this site cutting my blogs not printing what I have to say.It is not using nasty words or ripping some one a new aqq hole but I am about to who ever is running this thing Who gives you the right?????

Posted by: h | May 9, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Nat Turner,
From Obama’s perfomance in Debates, it is hard to believe he graduated from Harvard…..

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

By 2012, hopefully, there will be a better woman to run for President.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | May 9, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

and Tom davie
i can tell you i have yet to meet a single person that actually took the time to go to an obama rally or at any event for all the candidates… who didn’t switch to Obama…
in new hampshire we were actually lucky and priviledged enough to have the opportunity to actually go to all the candidates rallies if you so chose…unfortunately hillary supporters…old faithful democrats and women who wanted to see her in the white house…didn’t really go to anybody outside of clinton
but those who did chose oBama or edwards…
not many stuck with her royal highness.
and those people are the ones who didn’t take the media with their spin

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

UNITED WE STAND ! DIVIDED WE FALL!
DONT GET USED BY THE LIAR WITH A “TRUST FUND” FOR $109,000.000.00 (The Tax & Liability Trust Fund). SHE IS NOT WORKING CLASS, SHE IS DESPERATE AND IS USING YOU – HILLARY DO NOT KNOW WHAT A PAYCHECK IS! DO IT FOR THE DEMOCRATS & THE U.S.A. Try GHANGE, you will like it!
Ido! Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

I love Juan on Fox news. BO only won white vote in 6 states…this from a black man who sees he has a problem!!!!What the — is wrong with DNC? Juan says they better bring up race in this nomination process. SHE WINS THE MAJORITY OF WHITE VOTE….WITHOUT THAT HE CANNOT WIN…HISPANICS….HOW DOES HE WIN WITHOUT THAT? Jeez…why does liberal media plug their ears and cover their eyes? HE IS ON A DECLINE WITH WHITE VOTERS SINCE WE LEARN MORE AND MORE ABOUT HIM…love Juan Williams, smart black Republican.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Ok, so now it’s a matter of public record:
1. Hillary does not want to accept seating the Michigan delegates as proposed (by that state, mind you)which would give her 10 more delegates than Obama.
2. Hillary will not accept the VP slot.
I was wondering, and now I know.

Posted by: Karen | May 9, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

question…correct me if i am wrong-so far 35 million votes have been cast in the democratic primary…how many of these were caucus votes?

Posted by: sonia trevino | May 9, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Nat Turner,
The most successful men in the world is Harvard drop-out not any Harvard Grad..
So please don’t repeat your Harvard grad! No one will give a damn on it!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Does anyone take the word of an old fat drunk like Kennedy…who by the way killed a girl while DUI! I have not forgotten that have you?

Posted by: billy depp | May 9, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Ryan
you are really brainwashed. all those arguments with republicans defending the clintons through all those questions and lies and scandals and accusations… right wing conspiracy…
all of it has left many of you in eternal defense against what you think is the “bar”…
when you compare them to GW yeah they are a higher bar…
but guess what when you are using George W. as the measure… there aint a whole lot of politicians below that.
The Clintons are not noble. The years with them were good much to do with a republican congress and despite their attitude they had to fight the republicans at every turn Whether that was their fault or not that is the culture that partisanship is what started us down this horrible road the country is now on).
Change is hard. But at this point at this juncture we have to.

Posted by: dl | May 9, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Karen,
The reason why Hillary rejected is because Obama did not want to count the votes in MI but only delegates!!
The count of MI votes will diminish his win on popular votes!!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Hillary would make a great vice Pres but she will not accept as she will be busy running for 2012 against McCain.

Posted by: billy depp | May 9, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

dl,
The change is hard, but we can’t make a change behind an “empty suit” because there is nothing to change!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Obama has come this far in the campaign with intelligent, wise, future-minded people around him. So your advises on who should he choose as vp and whether or not you take your vote to mccain does NOT matter..hope you understand. It is evident your vote in the primaries was not for Obama and that is your God given choice and the advise is continue to give your voice to your choice. But know that Obama is the WINNER!

Posted by: pana | May 9, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

One of them can be his secretary just to take care of his paper, remember he always lose it.

Posted by: catleya | May 9, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

“Hillary Clinton controls 1/2 the democratic voters.”
posted by tomdavie
typical clintonista apparatchnik think

Posted by: BeerBubba | May 9, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

PS True Truth, while America may be a melting pot..the main ingredient is still White. He is not going to win that vote..not because he is Black but because he is a Kennedy-liberal with no experience. White folks except for the elite, do not vote this way. He will have to win the white vote to win and I doubt very much he will. Hillary would win the Black vote as well as the white, Hispanic, and Asian votes. It looks like a McCain victory and after that we have Obama to blame like Kerry and Gore.

Posted by: billy depp | May 9, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

I”d be careful if I were Obama…putting her one “unfortunate event” away from the presidency might be a pretty risky position for him to be in…
It wouldn”t be the first “unfortunate event” that happens to benefit the Clinton family.
Besides, she is not interested in “changing how the American government works” she is aligned with too many corporate special interests.

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Kennedy? OMG, tears are streaming down my face as I read this article! HAHAHAHAHAHA! That guy is the worst kind of politician: Rich family, so no feel for average Americans (elitist), DUI and kills his girlfriend and doesn’t fess up to it (lack of character), behind the scenes puppeteer(spin politician), presidential wannabee (loser) and he has the GALL to use the terms “responsibility… appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people…..real leadership” when speaking of Obama? What a joke. I take the old Seinfield show that George should do the exact opposite of his intuition and apply it to whatever this Kennedy says. Just the opposite is the truth, and what is real. Give me a break! He and Obama must really have some good laughs over their lattes sitting in their penthouse offices. Loser and losee. Hillary Clinton is so much further in EVERY category than these two bozo’s!

Posted by: Sunny Florida | May 9, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

We are once again picking the least qualified person and are setting ourselves up to lose again. Obama is going to be crucified in November. No experience and no resume.

Posted by: billy depp | May 9, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Vanessa…you say with Hillary comes Bill Clinton, how about with BO, comes Michelle….yeah…there’s an asset.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

pana,
Let’s review the Dems’ race again:
Obama won 10 “black” states and 6 “white” states from primaries and 13 states from caucuses
Hillary won 17 states (most of blue states) from primaries and 1 caucus…
He lose majority of white votes, women votes, latino votes, and other minority votes excluding AA…
However, he is leading per Dems’ RULE..

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

I’m sorry but having an advanced college degree from an elite University guarantees neither “common sense” nor “common appeal”..But, the elitist talk guarantees that those with respect for the working class, women, and older Americans and what they mean to the spirit of America will be turned off…or turned on to the non-Obama.

Posted by: Professor but not elitist | May 9, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Thank God for Obama.
It’s great to see Clinton out of the race at last. For our own sake we need somone decent in the big wh for a change.
I know all our friends in Australia and the UK feel the same way. they were tricked into George’s stupid war, and need a leader they can trust to rebuild international relations. It sure as heck aint Hilliary – she’s a nasty piece of work.
Thank GOD for Obama.

Posted by: Sean | May 9, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

I know that Hillary’s supporters are disappointed but you don’t have to be so mena. I would ahve voted for Hill if she would ahve won. I don’t believe anything she say but I would have voted for her because I know we are doomed if McCain wins. Stop hating so much and look at what is at stake!

Posted by: Emilianna | May 9, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Thank God for Obama.
It’s great to see Clinton out of the race at last. For our own sake we need somone decent in the big wh for a change.
I know all our friends in Australia and the UK feel the same way. they were tricked into George’s stupid war, and need a leader they can trust to rebuild international relations. It sure as heck aint Hilliary – she’s a nasty piece of work.
Thank GOD for Obama.

Posted by: Sean | May 9, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Obama did just fine on CCN.
Go to You Tube and search for:
JvdueV5p4eY
I think he’s going to run circles around a guy who is totally outclassed. The McBush team don’t even understand what they are up against when they complain about the phrase “losing his bearings”.

Posted by: BeerBubba | May 9, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Just wait until the Republicans bring out even more dirt on Obama. To get a preview check out dontvoteobama.net. The 527′s will have a field day with him. Thanks to people like Kennedy we will be welcoming McCain as our next President. Hopefully the good people of Mass will consider voting Kennedy and Kerry out of office for this fiasco and impending TRAIN WRECK.

Posted by: TrainWreckAComing | May 9, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Who would be the food taster if Hillary’s the VP,I would not be able to trust her ,besides what would she bring but chaos. Her supporter’s would still vote for McCain to sabotage the GE so she can run in 2012. Nancy Pelosi has foreign policy experience if it just has to be a woman on the ticket

Posted by: merle7 | May 9, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Obama is the nominee. Why are we even discussing this. Lots of bitterness isn’t going to help anyone.
If Hillary’s supporters would rather vote McCain than Obama, then Hillary’s primary demgraphic hasn’t got anything to do with race or colour; it looks like this “Stupid, reckless, bitter, thick!”

Posted by: ted | May 9, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Sean,
No one will end the War in Iraq in the near term and even Obama admitted himself…
Obama has no experience on national security and foriegn policy and he has not earned any respect from international political stage…
You cannot make a change with an empty hope with no substance, because there is nothing you can change!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Who would be the food taster if Hillary’s the VP…………
LOL too funny

Posted by: haha | May 9, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Hillary and her supporters wouldn’t know a “movement” if it were coming out of their collective arses…
You would think it would be easy for them to recognize it after it rolled over their precious unbeatable, well-established nominee…
Watch as this movement runs right over McCain…
…get onboard or step aside, because you don’t want to get run down twice by the movement being in McCains camp!
Welcome aboard and be a part of it, it is much more fun than being in front of it!

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Since Hillary has claimed her years in the white house as experience, obviously it is a reference to her last two terms as vice president. Her office WAS in the west wing. Why would she want to repeat the failures, she executed then?

Posted by: Martha Davidson | May 9, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

WAKE UP AMERICA! WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? VERY LITTLE EXCEPT WHAT REV. WRIGHT HAS REVEALED. AMERICA IS IN THE MOST DESPERATE TIMES IN DECADES AND WE ARE CONSIDERING OBAMA WITH NO EXPERIENCE EXCEPT FOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZING. GET REAL! WE NEED A LEADER! WE NEED TO GET BACK TO TRUE AMERICAN PRINCIPALS.

Posted by: DEBBIE WILSON | May 9, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Elbram,
“Welcome aboard and be a part of it, it is much more fun than being in front of it!”
Sorry, we can not join you! We are here not for fun; we are here for our country!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Yeah, True Truth,
Let’s just obliterate more countries instead.
The problem we’re facing is credibility. There is none left. We’ve lost it. We’re the most hated country in the world. People look at the US bemused- how could any country vote for Bush? It defies belief..
If his party stays in, not only will it be another 4 years of corruption, stupidity but vindicating the global perception of US citizens.
If Hillary hadn’t lost the nomination, the ‘Self Serving’ strand would have continued too.
Sigh.. breath of fresh air.
Nobody can be worse then McCain. I’d vote Oscar the Grouch in before him. But, fortunatly, she was beaten on Tuesday.

Posted by: Sean | May 9, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

RE : burstingyourbubble
Sorry to burst your bubble __ America founded by the Pilgrims
The Ideology of the Puritans ___ CALVINISM (1639)
The forefather of : FUNDAMENTALISM and the First Established
Ideology of : NAZI FASCISM in AMERICA
CALVINISM :
The teachings and doctrine of John Calvin, a leader in the
Protestant reformation.
Calvinism is unique in its REJECTION of CONSUBSTANTIATION,
The EUCHARIST and in its Doctrine of PREDESTINATION,
the BELIEF that NO ACTIONS taken during a PERSONS LIFE
Would EFFECT THEIR SALVATION.
(No Guilt or Remorse for Adverse Behavior)
The Puritan Colonies were based on the Calvinist Doctrine.
The constitution of the Connecticut colony that was established in 1639.
Written by Thomas Hooker and similar to the government of Massachusetts Bay,
It contained a preamble and 11 FUNDAMENTAL ORDERS.
Following the PURITAN IDEAL, it put the WELFARE of the COMMUNITY
ABOVE THAT of INDIVIDUALS

Posted by: Rudewater | May 9, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

ted,
Sorry, Americans will put country first not any political party! Americans have every right to vote for the one who will be the best to United States..

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

To the person who said white people are losers…..if it wasn’t for us white people you wouldn’t have the right to vote for Obama. And if the white people didn’t work to give you the right to vote, the south would still be democratic.
Ignorant ingrates…..
And for the record, Obama is no MLK.

Posted by: jmm | May 9, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Hey Elbram what movement? The movement of being delusional? LOL Obama is going change a damn thing. What the movement of hope? Hope in one hand and sht in the other and see which one fills up quicker. Pa lease
Obama=McGovern

Posted by: MR | May 9, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Here Lies Hillary Clinton,
1947-2008
Beloved wife of puppet master Bill, sadly passed away when the US people decided she was not fit to run the country.
Here Lies Hillary Clinton. Lies. Lies. Lis. This is how she shall be remembered.
Rest in Peace. Your work is OVER!

Posted by: adam | May 9, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

So much for change I don’t know who to hate more Kennedy ,Kerry, Gore,Dean and I tought women were back stabbers I can’t believe they have used thier own voters pitted us against each other and as usual created a cluster F—.WOW they really hate the only one man to do what FDR did Washington the cesspool of America

Posted by: Bishop | May 9, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

It is just time for Hillary and Bill to go away…
Her campaign is broke, nobody (including all her die hard fans here) is giving her any more money.
The Math is impossible and nobody is going to let her change the rules, even though she keeps trying!
So I and none of the other Obama supporters are much worried about her stealing the nomination anymore.
However, my biggest worry now as an Obama supporter is that somehow she might get onto the ticket as the VP!
Barrack if you or someone from your campaign is listening, Please, Please don’t let that happen! That woman with all her baggage, lies and negativity would be poison for your ticket and could cause you to lose!
Speaking of “poison” as a lot of people have said, you might need a food taster if she becomes VP…

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Haha..
It comes so naturally to her, that even in death she still lies.
..

Posted by: sean | May 9, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Sean,
Regarding the War in Iraq, it is not about if it is wrong or right. It is about how to end it without risking international security and global economy while miniming US’s cost…
If US can succeed it, then we will gain our credit back…
Who do you think has the best solution? As far as now, Obama has no idea to how to solve it except repeating his anti-war speech!!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

The communist party has planned it long ago. In normal circumstance, they’ll fail.
Therefore they are fixed on a black candidate and flash the race card so that the black community against the Clintons.
Yet Hillary still gets about half of the vote. That tells you how tough Hillary is.
Many voters remember how Pelos, Kennedy is changing the rule. Howard Dean is discovered running an ad. against McCain with false accusations. Half of the communist party are crooks.
Kennedy went to the convention and lost to Jimmy Carter for the nomination. Jimmy Carter insisted that superdelegates should vote according to pledged delegates, the same thing that Pelosi said. However, the rule was changed that the superdelegates should vote according to their conscience that who is the better candidate despite the results of popularity vote and delegate counts.
All along the media, the public are misinformed about the role of superdelegate.
These crooks know all along that they are bending the rules for OBAMA.
They never aim to run a fair election because they know they won’t stand a chance. The communist party is fixing the election anyway they can. Still they can win the Clintons. They have to resort to pushing out Hillary before the convention. They are afraid to go to the convention because of the filth. they are busy covering their tracks now.
The communist party composed of Pelos, Dean, Carter are the brains behind the liberal extremists. One thing they did not know is how powerful the Clintons are though the party hit them by surprise and still they punch back with convincing victories.
The wrath of Clinton supporters are so powerful that the party is busy covering their a*s now. Hillary knows that she has all the money to run to finish and give them hell at the convention.
The race is not over until it is over. They can’t move the goal post to the 10 yard line and fake a touchdown; just see the snob makes a fool of himself.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 9, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

The Three Amigos, Ted Kennedy,Dean and Richardson should get together and do The Mexican Hat Dance for the good of the party.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

It’s comments like Nat Turners that would make any person think twice about voting for Obama.

Posted by: billy depp | May 9, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Obama is not the nominee. It’s not over ’til it’s over. Hillary and her supporters have the right to take this to the convention just like Kennnedy himself did when he was much much further behind in his Presidential bid. Let all Americans speak including Michiganders and Floridians. Newsflash!! Hillary supporters (now labeled “old coalition no longer needed by DNC to win in Fall per Donna Brazille” will vote against Obama in November to save our country and our party. Many of us consider ourselves Americans first and Democrats second. Then it’s on to clean up the Super Delegates who showed the poor judgment to vote for Obama (especially those who voted against their constituents like Kennedy and Kerry). Maybe they’re the puppet masters?

Posted by: American1stDemocrat2nd | May 9, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Her MR, you make my point when you say what movement? hahaha…
McCain and Hillary supporters both don’t know what being a part of one!

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

All you can hear is racist in this election. The only racist act I can see is the blacks all voting for Obama.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Anybody but Hillary! I’d love to have an Honest VP as well

Posted by: Jose | May 9, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

HILLARY HAS 271.5 SUPER D’S TO OBAMA’S 271. THE REST OF THEM BETTER HOLD OFF TIL MORE OF BO S— HITS THE FAN!

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

I thought the super were only suppose to wiegh in if they were needed I demand that Cuba be brought in to over see this election

Posted by: Bishop | May 9, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Truth Truth says “Sorry, we can not join you! We are here not for fun; we are here for our country!”
My response…if you are not doing both, then you are doing something wrong.
Your candidates don’t inspire you…think about why that is.

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Change for the sake of change without a coherent plan is stupidity. Get a clue.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

THE DEMS ARE SCREWED. THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLICIES…IT’S PERSONALITIES.
MOST AMERICANS, VOTE WITH THEIR EMOTIONS, HEART, AND THEN HEAD. BECAUSE OF THE COMPLETE SPLIT IN THE PARTY…McCAIN WILL WIN ’08. MORE OF HILLARY SUPPORTERS WILL DEFECT THAN IN ANY OTHER ELECTION…..SO OBAMA BETTER GET NEW VOTER REGISTRATION UP. MILLIONS OF HISPANICS TURN 18 BEFORE NOVEMBER….MY GUESS IS THEY WILL VOTE McCAIN TOO….IF HILLARY NOT THE NOM.,

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

A real leader should never be arm-twisted to choose his right hand man/woman
Senator Clinton needs to learn how to lose gracefully- especially since she did not campaign gracefully
SHE needs to be a true leader and urge her supporters to UNITE for the good of the party instead of feeding into divisions

Posted by: M | May 9, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Obama’s only hope of winning is to make sure his supporters like Kennedy and Bill “Judas” Richardson keep their mouths shut. Without Hillary supporters like me going out and voting for Obama he has a near zero chance of winning. I can guarantee you that if he in any way shape or form demeans or belittles her he will lose BIG time! While I would never vote McCain….I may just stay home. While I beleive she is best to beat McCain he still has to get my support to vote for him since pretty speeches and books on hope just don’t make me “tingle” the way it does Chris Matthews or Keith Olberman. I would also not call myself a “lower class white” either. There are millions like me, Hillary supporters, who Obama needs to win and I think he better take Hillary seriously an adopt her mandatory health care stance as well as some of her other plans if he gets nominated. She is after all more experienced than Obama and has gone through this issue already. I will wait and see.

Posted by: billy depp | May 9, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Ok. So we lost.
It seems obvious Obama will win the nomination.Acting like children and crying because Hillary lost isn’t going to help us. I’m willing to support Obama and will bring all the other Hillary supporters I know across with me.
He will be better than McCain. And.. he’ll keep BUSH and CHENEY away from the frey.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Obama 08. Time to cross the line.

Posted by: Save our Country | May 9, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Elbram,
Inspiration is not for fun, it is for the truth….
I bet you are one of 60% younger voters (under 30) supporting your American Idol!

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Nat Turner, Kinda sounds like Obama’s spiritual advisor, Rev Wright and Obama in his arrogance in portraying himself as the winner of the nomination before Ted Kennedy sings.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Davis..you’re right Hillary should not ever consider being BO’s VP. Why should he get any benefit from even one of her supporters to get him to the finish line? I’m guessing the vast majority of Hillary supporters are AMERICANS first DEMOCRATS second.
Never Obama….GO McCAIN…IF NOT HILLARY!

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Save our Country,
Why do you think Obama is better than McCain?? We won’t unite behind an “empty suit” but a true leader and fighter…

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Nat is probably one of Obama’s Caucus goons.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Obama will be fine.
The policies are the same as Clinton’s anyway.
Voting McCain out of spite is for unintelligent people. It would be a disaster. Even Hillary will vote Obama before McCain.
Are we kids or adults.
I’ll lead by example.. As a Hillary supporter.. I’ll support Obama. (if he wins the nomination).

Posted by: Save our Country | May 9, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Save our country…good try you Obama supporter. You are the FIRST Hillary supporter I’ve heard throwing in the towel to support BO. You’re so transparent…we all know Hillary supporters go McCain if she’s not the nom…..go elsewhere.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Obama will be fine.
The policies are the same as Clinton’s anyway.
Voting McCain out of spite is for unintelligent people. It would be a disaster. Even Hillary will vote Obama before McCain.
Are we kids or adults.
I’ll lead by example.. As a Hillary supporter.. I’ll support Obama. (if he wins the nomination).
Most intelligent democrats will do the same. Don’t worry.
Dems for 08.!

Posted by: Save our Country | May 9, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Hey MR, while this is fun know this…I have been a part of this since about a month after he started running. I am a delegate for Obama and a precinct captain. I have served my country in the US Army and now protect the largest banking ATM network from hackers.
I am more informed on all the candidates, but moreso on Obama than the rest.
I would take a bullet for the man and know that this man will lead America in the right direction.
He has laid out an extensive plan and has surrounded himself with many many wise Democrats and Republicans that have helped craft the nuts and bolts of his plans. I have been following this candidate for well over a year and am convinced that he is who he says he is. He is the only candidate to build a weapon againt the corporate interests (1.5 million donor and individual voter database)
I would suggest you not assume you know someone based on a couple of posts…
In case you want to know some info about the movement:
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Haha.
I voted Hillary in Pittsburgh.
Just got to know when enough is enough..
Sorry – hate aint my game.

Posted by: Save our Country | May 9, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Haha.
I voted Hillary in Pittsburgh.
Just got to know when enough is enough..
Sorry – hate aint my game.

Posted by: Save our Country | May 9, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

It’s Hillary or McCain!

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Yes lets all unite behind the faux uniter! Either you’re with us or against us comrade! We are the change that we’ve always been waiting for!

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

hillary doesn’t have one ounce of dirty laundry versus kennedy he should have a stiff drink and go swimming he might see an old girlfriend floating around.he and kerry are sick old rejects,why cant some people just let this play out,they are totally afraid of a woman they cant bash around.GO HILLARY WE STAND ONLY BY YOU!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SHIRLEY ROYBAL | May 9, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Good lord!
This is hillarious.
Two teams of diehards. Neither budging.
“It’s McCain or Hillary”. haha.
No wonder Obama chooses words like ‘bitter’.
Very funny. I’m outa here.

Posted by: Aaron | May 9, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

If Rev Wright, Ayers and Rezco is your game vote Obama.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Save our country…if hate ain’t your game, supporting BO might be problematic for you with Obama’s Rev. Wright rhetoric…he’s all about HATE.
HOPE, CHANGE, HATE…..OBAMA ’08!

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Elbram,
You forgot to mention Obama received more donation from special interest groups and lobbyists than from his Internet…
He is just the same typical politician backing by the same old politicians…
So what is new about him except that he can inspire young kids to jump and down…

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Hey Truth Truth, being a warrior does not mean he is qualified to lead the country. I thought once that McCain would have been ok, but he has compromised all his values.
His moral compass is lost, and he sold his soul to the current administration.
I know Obama would never do that.
You should really expect more from your leaders than you do.

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

I’m still praying for a miracle for Hillary (and our country) so that she is chosen the nominee, though we’ve already proven Obama is in league with criminals and America-haters, and apparently that wasn’t enough to wake people up. As far as Kennedy’s comment, he is no position to judge anyone else… He is a sleazy, nasty person… BO would be lucky to have Hillary as his running mate… A patriotic, prepared, intelligent person, to balance out his weaknesses…

Posted by: april | May 9, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

The Clintons protect their children and help others protect children.
(FACTCHECK: March 18 Give full credit of SCHIP to Hillary)
Obama expose their children to hateful messages and cult.
This is the difference between OBAMA and the Clintons.
Help me compile a long list of party crooks.
The crooks of this primary are:
Pelosi, Carter, Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and small potatoes like Joe Andrew.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 9, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Elbram,
Then what is the qualification Obama has to lead this country except he can make some young kids jump…

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Hillary seems to be acting like one tin god! let her go to hell, she’s behaving as if the office of the president is her and her family’s birth right.
Obama should not pick her as V.P and if people decides to vote for McBush let it be. If Obama wins he wins and if he loses he loses. Hillary should be brought to shame for once, and for her information, if Obama loses her political career is over. Infact we are going to start mobilizing against her re-election bid in the senate from next month.
Those that are writing fake letter don’t believe in there ability to lead, they believe Bill and Hillary are there god.
OBAMA, 08. nothing changes it.

Posted by: Cole | May 9, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Elbram,
BTW, Obama sold his soul to his own power hunger by throwing his uncle pastor under the bus….
He has no gut to admit he agreed on what his pastor said for 20 years…

Posted by: True Truth | May 9, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Nat Turner,,,,Hispanic and asian are racist too, that’s why we didn’t vote for Obama. The only rance that’s not racist is BLACK. Now enjoy your imaginary world.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

I have a meeting I need to go to…I will post the response to this in an hour or so…after the meeting.
you are incorrect on the special interest thing, he owes no one.

Posted by: Elbram | May 9, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Someone needs to remind Ted Kennedy that he represents the politics as usual in Washington. He is someone hardly qualified to talk about change.

Posted by: David Velazquez | May 9, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Senator Clinton would rather be Governor of New York. Ed Rendell, Gov. of Pennsylvania would be a good choice for Senator Obama. Rendell is an excellent politician, can deliver PA, no baggage, has presidential demeanor.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | May 9, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

I hope that if he does ask her to be VP she turns it down and doesn’t help him campaign. Why should she help him with working class people? Heck she could just run on her own as an independant and beat him flat out. I wish as many do that we could have our vote for Obama back. I will never vote for Obama in the general election no matter how much everyone tries to shove him down my throat.

Posted by: Dee-Ga | May 9, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

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Obama: -120 (5/6 odds)
McCain: +137 (11/8 odds)
Clinton: +650 (13/2 odds)
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So here’s your chance to make some easy money by turning your certainty into cash.
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Posted by: myname | May 9, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

The big fat rear end of Ted Kennedy got us in this mess. I have been a democrat for many years but will become an Independant this year and vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Hillary has not lost the nomination but the press and Obama people are already declairing a victory.What about Florida’s voters? Do they not count and Michigan, do thier votes not count? What a mess.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Here’s what’s weird… Hillary is the winner among whites and latinos… And yet she’s losing (though that’s also because Michigan and Florida aren’t being counted)… The times, they are a’ changin’…
Part of the problem is that people are stupified. Their brains are not engaged… They’re looking for a quick fix, someone to sweet-talk them, whip them up… America, do not continue on this fast social decline, with voting based on skin color rather than aptitude to do the job… We’re going to wake up one day and find we’re not in America anymore, because we know what Wright thinks of our America.
Vote anyone, just NOT BO.

Posted by: april | May 9, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Howard Dean reminds me of the jelly bean man.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 9, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Put me in the Hillary or McCain category! McCain is NOT another Bush – I’ll have no problems voting for him.

Posted by: Jack | May 9, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

If the die hard Clinton fans here just refuse to give up, then why don’t all of you trot on over to Hillary’s website and give her that $30 bucks she was save you this summer with that phony gas tax scam!
Maybe then she will win!
Hmm, why are you all still here?????

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

True truth,
Looks like you have alot to say which I credit you for. Couple of things on your response:
1 Please tell me and others what percent did Clinton win by on the states she won and what did Obama win by. Everyone, red,black,white,green whatever your skin color, you vote with your own God given choices one has to make.
2. Dem’ rules. tell me did Obama or for that matter Clinton set down the rules for these elections and have interval meetings to changes rules????

Posted by: pana | May 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

What is Obama and his supporters afraid of? If their message is so powerful why don’t they just let Hillary finish what she started? There is also a historical perspective to her candidacy. The is the first female viable Presidential candidate. She has also created enthusiasm for this election process. Let every state vote. At this point she’s using her “own” money to run the campaign, and those that are still contributing to the campaign are well aware of her odds of winning the nomination. I and my family will be voting for McCain and not for Obama.

Posted by: Yolande | May 9, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Davis, good point. What I don’t understand is why all those who are so certain that McCain is going to win the GE don’t just draw down their 401(k)’s and bet it all on McCain. Here’s a chance to make an easy 137% on their money.
http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_portal?action=change_display_price_type&priceType=AMERICAN&retURL=http^//www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_sports?action=go_type~category=SPECIALS~class_id=110000037~type_id=110000608

Posted by: myname | May 9, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Yolande, because we are all bored and tired of her… So again,
If All the die hard Clinton fans here just refuse to give up, then why don’t all of you just trot on over to Hillary’s website and give her that $30 bucks she was going to save you this summer, with that phony pandering gas tax scam!
Maybe then she will win!
Hmm, why are you all still here?????

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

To all the women supporters of Hillary “still” out there…
You all say now that you would rather vote for McCain instead of Obama – now…
Wait until you all figure out that McCain is going to be the president that is going to appoint the judges to overturn Roe v Wade and take away your and your daughters right to choose!
By the way he said that a couple of days ago, but you probably didn’t hear that because you were still crying about Hillary’s defeat.
Me thinks the giant stampede of women supporters coming from the Hillary camp to Obama, will cause such a deafening roar, that we will all think we just heard a sonic boom in November!
You gals are not fooling anyone…….

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Ted Kennedy and his “elitist” ways are just one of many reasons I will not be voting for Obama in the general election. He is not the face of change Obama keeps talking about.

Posted by: Steve | May 9, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

My Name,
You are absolutely right there my friend!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

I’m not happy with Clinton, McCain or Obama. I’m actually afraid of Obama’s radical past/present and will vote for McCain if Clinton doesn’t pull it off. No Barry Obama for this gal!

Posted by: Gale | May 9, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Ya, we’ll see about that Gale…
Remember Roe v Wade? Maybe you don’t care about it, but I am sure some of your friends or family do…..

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Does anyone know why Michelle Obama is so angry? She has so much hate in her heart. I know she has said in the past that she has low self-esteem issues but it is getting out of control.

Posted by: ChrisA | May 9, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Save our country…how do you know Hillary will vote Obama? She’ll probably vote McCain too and have a better chance in 2012, because when Obama goes down in this one, like all other loser Dem Prez candidates…he won’t be able to run again, when the scandals break loose. I can’t believe white candidates have been kicked to the curb for much less than Obama’s negatives….double standard for the ever politically correctness of this country.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Well there you go, Kennedy is the man behind the empty suit. What a wonderful mess the democrats have now… Its ok All the democrats I know including me will be voting for McCain anyway…

Posted by: Bette | May 9, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Davis…get beyound the scare tactics of Roe vs. Wade. I was 16 when that all went down in the 70′s….we are not going to turn back time on that one. Leave it alone, already.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Even Pat Buchanan thinks McCain’s chances aren’t very good. I’m sorry I just don’t see it happening.

Posted by: lily | May 9, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Debra,
Don’t get your hopes up for 2012. Remember Gore? After he lost he was done permanently – That’s Hillary’s fate as well.
Done, over, forever!!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Democrats voting for McCain have a new face, we’re know as “Clinton Republicans”. Note to Obama: I’m holding up my middle finger for added emphasis.

Posted by: randy | May 9, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Davis, yawn – you’re boring me!

Posted by: SueinPA | May 9, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Debra, after November the Clintons will fade into oblivion forever, which is where they belong.

Posted by: myname | May 9, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Last I checked , Davis, this primary season is not over. Why won’t your golden boy candidate debate in Oregon?
Everyone there is covering this, and he still runs scared as the presumed crown Prince. HE CAN’T DEBATE AND STRING TWO IDEAS TOGHETHER WITHOUT UH, UM, UUH.
He should debate Hillary just as a dress rehearsal for the big boys of the Republican party. He has E.D. around Hillary and is testicularly challenged.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Why is Mr. Chappaquidick so negative about the Clinton’s? This is beginning to sound like a personal vendetta. Unfortunately, small-minded, biased, people like Kennedy, Kerry, and Richardson are not looking at the bigger picture. Obama is going to lose in the fall because many of Clinton’s supporters will not vote for him.

Posted by: sgriffin1944 | May 9, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Debra,
Get over Roe v Wade? My dear in case you didn’t know (because you are spending all your days and nights here defending a losing candidate), two Supreme court justices will be most likely retiring (because they are in their eighties and late seventies) in this next eight years cycle.
Only one or two more “anti-abortion” judges are needed on the court now to overturn Roe v Wade. I think it is time to start paying attention to the real world now……

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Yes, let’s have a debate in Oregon between Obama and McCain.

Posted by: lily | May 9, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Why has Obama stopped the votes in Florida and Michigan from being counted. They could save money by not having a GE in November and just giving the electorates to McCain.

Posted by: Concerned | May 9, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Debra,
Why debate a loser that has already lost?
Why don’t you trot over to Hillary’s site now and give her that $30 dollars she was going to save you on that gas tax scam.
Then maybe she will win!
What, are you still here??? Hillary was begging you for money, aren’t you going to help her out?

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Ted Kennedy is dead right. A Obama-Clinton ticket is a sure passport to defeat.
Hillary will not be an asset but rather a big, big liability. All the Republicans have to do is to play back all the negative comments she made about Obama.
And what about her White racism. It definitely will not go well with the African Americans. The dislike for the Clintons among the Republicans is so deep-rooted that Clinton on Obama ticket will rally them around John McCain to ensure his victory. There will be no Republican cross-over to the Democratic side. Instead droves of disappointed Obama supporters will either stay away from the voting booth or cast their vote for moderate Republican John McCain.
Which ever way you look at it, Hillary Clinton will be a BIG LIABILITY for Obama. Don’t take her on board. Stay clear!!

Posted by: JISantiago | May 9, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

It’s time for Obama to throw Kennedy under the bus!

Posted by: Simon | May 9, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Apparently, Obama supporters have forgotten about the Ted Kennedy legacy of Mary Jo Kopeckne and Chappaquidick. Most of Americans have not.
Voters should be aware of the alignment of the most liberal of the liberal Democrats is emerging with great clarity.
Kennedy, Carter, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean, Sanders, and the rest the liberal guard are almost insanely jealous of the amount of influence that the Clintons have in the Democrat party.
As such, the affiliation of Barack Obama with the liberal elite is going to spell doom among seniors, gun owners, working class, and white voters in general.
At present, the above mentioned groups account for the voters that will elect the next President. One hundred percent of any given minority caucus will not.
The general election in November is not a caucus.
With an Obama candidacy, the Democrats will be hopelessly divided.
The voting majority will vote McCain.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 9, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Davis why do you sometimes post as LA in Indiana?

Posted by: JustWondering | May 9, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

ya know what really scares me and I mean this with no disrespect to anyone.. I am watching cnn right this minute and the politicans are saying the superdeligates will not go against the 95 pecent of the black voters…. Wow Even if Hillary won the state, the deligates dont want to take the nomination away from obama, Is that what this comes down to color???? I just thought as a society we were more advanced in our thoughts about race and sexism

Posted by: Bette | May 9, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

And, for the record, Hillary Clinton should never, and I mean NEVER, lower herself enough to even consider being on the same ticket with the likes of Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 9, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Monique,
Sorry that reverend Wright thing is all played out now, and nobody cares anymore. You better inform your son overseas he needs to pay attention to what is happening here.
In case you forgot Obama won in a Landslide against Hillary in NC right in the middle of that “fake controversy.” Plus he brought her 10 point lead down to 2 points in Indiana.
So do you have another one? Because that one is old already. and will be ancient history by November….

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

The fact that 95% of blacks vote for Obama is enough of an incentive for me to vote for McCain. Enough said!

Posted by: Condi | May 9, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Jayhawk,
Yes, yes, yes! That is the dream of ALL Obama supporters!!!!
Don’t “lower” yourself Hillary, at least any lower than you already are!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Um, I’m a Republican.

Posted by: Condi | May 9, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

I have to admit, I’m uncertain as to the outcome of the November GE. But many on this blog are already certain McCain will win. If I were in such a position I would beg, borrwow and steal every cent I could and make some easy money. It would definitely make for a more comfortable retirement.
Come on people, make 137% on your money with a bet on McCain.
http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_portal?action=change_display_price_type&priceType=AMERICAN&retURL=http^//www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_sports?action=go_type~category=SPECIALS~class_id=110000037~type_id=110000608

Posted by: myname | May 9, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

That’s right 95% of blacks vote BO. Blacks are 13% of our population. Add in college kids, whacky radicals = DEFEAT IN NOV.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Bette:
Make no mistake. For Barack Obama, his supporters, and black voters, the Obama candidacy has never been about anything except getting a “black” candidate to vote for in November…even if that flawed candidate is only half-black.
While Americans may not be satisfied with George W. Bush and his policies, they are not yet ready for the socialist/communist type policies of the most liberal of the liberal, Barack Hussein Obama.
The general election and the electoral college are not the caucus-circus of the Democrat party.
We can all be thankful for that.

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 9, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

LA in Indiana,
I am from California, and if we didn’t have so much absentee voting here and everyone would have waited until election day to vote Obama would have won here!
There were literally thousands upon thousands of Absentee voters at the polls on voting day trying to change their votes from Hillary to Obama!!
Because when they voted early they didn’t even know who he was, and went they found out (just before election day) they wanted to change their votes for him!!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Monique, you keep cutting and pasting this same post all over the blogs. Why, once is enough.

Posted by: p | May 9, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Obama’s wife is just to angry for me to be a supporter. We need a first lady who has respect for this country.

Posted by: Jennifer | May 9, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Debra,
Why are you still here? I thought you would be over at Hillary dot com giving her all of your hard earned money so she can win!!!
I mean you have the conviction to put your money where your mouth is right?

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

The delusional progressives that believe they are mainstream, have moved beyond Rev Wright. So all the gun and bible clinging, bitter people had better follow suit or be left out of the new ultra-left Democratic Party.

Posted by: Mack | May 9, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Good man or woman LA in Indiana!
I (and millions of others across the county) were hoping all you guys would do the right thing out there for Obama the other night and you guys came through for ALL of us!!!
Thanks a Million!!!!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

La in Indiana, did you just have an orgasm? You’re sick!!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Can the Obama team think of anymore ways to discourage Clinton supporters from voting for him. Talk about loosing your bearings.

Posted by: former democrat | May 9, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Davis, it was well worth the work! And his supporters here are ALL races, men and women, young and old. It was absolutely amazing. And we are ready to gear up next week for the general.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | May 9, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Debra, go give her some more then! Maybe give her that $30 bucks she was going to save you on that phony gas tax pander!
So are you still here? I thought you would be over at Hillary dot com giving her all of your hard earned money so she can win!!!
I mean you have the conviction to put your money where your mouth is right?

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Hey Debra,
Maybe you can put Hillary supporters for Roe v Wade on one of your tee shirts too!!
I mean it is all the McSame!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Oops…
Hey Debra,
Maybe you can put Hillary supporters “against” Roe v Wade on one of your tee shirts too!!
I mean it is all the McSame!

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

@ James, WV, Independent: Exactly!
The latte left-wing, Kennedy, Kerry, Leahy, Pelosi, Dean, et al, stand to lose more than 50% of Hillary supporters, and as you mentioned, millions of others. The latte left-wing of the democratic party has, once again, set us on course for complete disaster. You remember some of the the other latte left disasters: McGovern, Mondale, Kennedy, Dukakis, Kerry.

Posted by: Emily | May 9, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Emily,
I am recycling this one just for you…
To all the women supporters of Hillary “still” out there…
You all say now that you would rather vote for McCain instead of Obama – now…
Wait until you all figure out that McCain is going to be the president that is going to appoint the judges to overturn Roe v Wade and take away your and your daughters right to choose!
By the way he said that a couple of days ago, but you probably didn’t hear that because you were still crying about Hillary’s defeat.
Me thinks the giant stampede of women supporters coming from the Hillary camp to Obama, will cause such a deafening roar, that we will all think we just heard a sonic boom in November!
You gals are not fooling anyone…….

Posted by: Davis | May 9, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

McCain is not Bush….be very worried. He is the most moderate Rep. who will appeal to all of Hillary supporters….watch him win in Nov.!
Landslide victory for all us right of center voters (majority group that elects all our Presidents). Hillary had the best chance being just left of center. LEFTY LIBERAL BO WILL NEVER BE ELECTED. INEXPERIENCE, LACKING JUDGEMENT, CAN’T COME CLOSE TO McCAIN IN PATRIOTISM…can’t wait to start seeing some of McCains bio run and his service and sacrifice for this country, compared to BO’s fluff piece. Boo, hoo, he was on food stamps in Hawaii, while gran/gramps put him through private school. Has he untied his granny yet and taken out the gag? She and Wright were thrown under the bus and then locked in a closet…tied up until after Nov. Wright did say his book will be out in October tho…he said he’s coming after Obama. Can’t wait.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Davis…it will never be overturned. Move on. My mother had an abortion before the 70′s…and fully supported Roe v Wade, and we will never go back in time about a woman’s right. Regardless of judges…no one or two people will dictate the will of many.

Posted by: Debra | May 9, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

McCain and Bush have the same policies which I say no thank you to.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

@ Davis:
You obviously don’t know the first thing about democratic voters. You also don’t know my gender- Emily is my Airedale Terrier.
As for female Hillary supporters swinging their votes to Obama, you’re dead wrong.
Like me, many Hillary supporters can live with four years of McCain, but we can’t live with betraying our ethics and principles to vote for Obama. Most of us can’t and won’t live with those who may be Obama’s choices for cabinet members and Supreme Court Justices. His choice of wife, pastor, and friends tell us his choice of appointees will be similarly reprehensible.
WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA, EVER.

Posted by: Emily | May 9, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

didnt Kennedy try to run for pres and he lost too,, Hum I’m thinking Obama shouldnt be asking him for help …
Clinton or McCain 08

Posted by: bette | May 9, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

To me it’s not so much about Roe v Wade. It’s the appointment of conservative judges that really worries me. And they do make the decisions that affect all of us. These judges are they until they retire. We can’t afford that.
Debra what do you mean no 1 or 2 people will dictate the will of many. Many want Roe V Wade overturned but it hasn’t happened because the Supreme Court is pretty balanced for now.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

@ bette:
Not only did Kennedy lose the democratic nod to Carter, he had 900 fewer pledged delegates than did Carter. Nobody, of course, asked him to drop out, and he took the fight all the way to the convention.

Posted by: Emily | May 9, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

I sincerely hope Clinton will not ask nor accept VP position. Actually, Teddy or Kerry would be an excellent match for Obama to consider as his running-mate.

Posted by: Roger | May 9, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

In the General when 180Million or so go to the polls thier are not enough young voters and AA to put Obama in.But since you don’t need Clinton supporters no problems we can vote for McCain or write her in .or stay in.

Posted by: Bishop | May 9, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Will this old DRUNK FOOL ever shut up??? He is a disgrace to the Democrats and the world..He is just a worthless piece of C*R*A*P just like his 2 dead brothers.

Posted by: Joe | May 9, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Pray tell, what is this so-called “newcomer” with a “new message”, and just what is that “new message”? Was it to get rid of the status quo? Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, Leahy, Richardson? Who qualifies as status quo these days? At least half of the Democrat voters do not see a clear view. All they see is double-talk. Just which people is this new messenger from God going to bring together?
What did Kennedy mean by “nobler aspirations of the American people”? Who represents that? He has become a joke along with all of the Obama soundbites: Hope, change, unity. Hope with whom? Change with whom? Change to what? Unity with whom? H*ll no! Hillary Clinton is too smart to be second on the ticket. She knows what the nobler aspirations for the American people are, and they have given her their votes. There is no unity in the Party this time. Let Obama pick Richardson or some other status quo who can prop him up, if they can. He will not win in November.

Posted by: georgia | May 9, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Ya know with the Obama supporters talking about McCain and the judges, it seems to me they are using scare tactics, now I find that hard to believe seeing Hillary has gotten Mocked out for the 3 Am phone call ad by the Obama and his supporters saying she was using scare tactics. I dont this Roe v Wade will ever get overturned, And if we want to be afraid, I think we can be afraid also of a very inexperience Obama who has a very special minister that is like his uncle that he mentions many times in his book…. I think all the candidates have problems but We need to swift through the crap and I believe Saying Roe v wade will be overturned if McCain gets in is just being paranoid

Posted by: bette | May 9, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Davis this is my biggest concern if McCain is president. And I don’t understand how any dem would vote for him. I know Hillary supporters are passionate about her which is fine. But to put this country in jeopardy with a conservative court is just insane to me. If people don’t like Obama then vote him out in 4 years but we can’t do that with the Supreme Court. We are stuck with them. I wish people would see the big picture here.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

The more of these old Democrats I hear them talk, the more I get turn off. I am for McCain 100% this time.

Posted by: number8th | May 9, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

The more of these old Democrats I hear them talk, the more I get turn off. I am for McCain 100% this time.

Posted by: number8th | May 9, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Davis, I think getting Hillary to be the nominee is the only thing they care about. And to heck with everything else. It’s very narrow minded.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

I don’t care about Roe v Wade, my ship sailed years ago.

Posted by: former democrat | May 9, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

former dem, it is so much more than Roe v Wade. Stop thinking about just yourself. We are talking about the Supreme Court here. Do you not get what is at stake. Good grief, talking to some Hillary supporters is like talking to a brick wall.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Can Kennedy say anything else to alienate 1/2 of the Dem party? Talk about putting his foot in his mouth.

Posted by: zimeeisme | May 9, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

When you look at who is actually complaining about a joint ticket, its Pelosi and Kennedy.
This means they are the ones pulling the strings behind Obama, and that was what this was really about the whole time.
They want control of the party, and having Hillary on the ticket cramps their style.
Not having her on the ticket puts his chances of winning in serious jepardy however.
He has not won the blue collar white vote. He never has. They are loyal to clinton and Mc Cain is a real alternative to them.
Obama will have to pick some guy who has blue collar appeal, but I highly doubt it will make up for Obamas liberal appeal.
When you have the loser of the nomination running BETTER against Mc Cain and winning all the major primiaries, you would think how easy a choice it would be to pick her.
It just goes to show how full of it the democratic insiders are.
I had to cut/paste this post by TomDavie…it was a pretty good analysis.
Change we can believe in…come on people….WHAT CHANGE??

Posted by: memyselfandI | May 9, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Lisa, david and all you Obama supoorter now calling people narrow minded. You been saying the samething until now that you think Obama is going to get the nomination. I am independent and i don’t owe any liberal democrate any loyalty. The clintons represent the middle america, obama represent elitist liberal. look at what you are saying, the new, the future, the forget about the old ones. I am in the 30s and doing much better than most, but i am not a naive Obama supproter.I also don’t believe in leaving most average american to hang and dry live you do. You care more about your radical ideal than peple in this country that we share. We Asian had a deep respect to the older generation for what they had done for us as well as their wisdom. Unlike most Obama supporter who can wait to disown their own parents as soon as they can get their own place. I will not support someone who’s supported by people like you. Mccain can’t be worst then the mob that Obama represent.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

I am right there with you andy sf…
Us idiotic Clinton supporters need to create a blog for all of us to exchange ideas rather than to hear all the nastiness and negativity that is always thrown our way. Kennedy is coming off just as arrogant as Obama.
I am in my 30′s as well, a former Biology teacher who left to open a business. Party loyalty is for weak-minded people. When the party that you have been loyal to has come to this, I will vote according to who I believe to be the best leader for our country.

Posted by: zimeeisme | May 9, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

zimeeisme ,, thanks. i can’t stand a party that put their own agenda over the welfare of the people. i had seen plenty of that in china in the old days. even them are better now. if this is what politic is like in this country, what ” American Dream” would that be. they should had Obama and company form a communist party instead.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Obama the fake liar and never in the White House with Michelle the swift boater for the Republicans.
McCain 09!

Posted by: rey | May 9, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

andy, I have only posted about the Supreme Court here. I call people narrow minded when they don’t want to see nor care of the consequences of their actions. Hillary supporters are emphatic that she be the nominee or else they will vote for McCain. I stated I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee because we can’t have McCain in the white house because of the Supreme Court.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

andy sf,
Archie Bunker & George Jefferson were fictatious characters of the 1970s depicting the UGLY & STUPID race relation in the USA – the Clinton empowered all the Archies and Georges in their camp and rekindled the ugly head of hatred and segregation in America – for what? Politics! Politics! Politics! The “Race-Card,” the consequence is mot in favour of the USA, as a matter of fact it is very divisive. These are the kind of activities that “our enemies” love to see – don’t we have enough enemies in the world, than to create these kind of enmity in the USA, among Americans? Please work with the Independents, Clinton Supporters and Obama Supporters to promote what is right and fair and just to all Americans! Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Regardless of what Lake says, there are very few racist individuals that I have come into contact in my lifetimes. I have lived in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Maine. I am only in my 30′s to boot. I have lived in big cities and the smallest of towns.
To say that the Clinton’s played the race card for the sake of votes is ridiculous. I actually read one comment today that said that Obama would already have the nomination if he were white.
What kind of people are voting here in America? They seem to lack critical thinking skills.

Posted by: zimeeisme | May 9, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer ,,
are you telling me that the Obama camp did not turn to the race card themself. My, i must be watching news instead of watching the opinion of the so call reporters. They are all politicians. Obama, clinton and mccain. i am not that naive. are you telling me that the bblacks voted over 80-90% for obama even before south carolina had nothing to do with him being black? even that they had the highest praise for the clintons not long ago? By simplely stating the truth they became racist and divisive? and those of us that use oour brain are being call racist and is all clinton’s doing? and the liberal lsft can’t do wrong? I pick who i think iis best for the country, not who will make the parties happy. republican or democrat. if is not clinton then mccain.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Obamanations have officially started using “Politics of Fear” with the whole abortion thing. Watch out Hillary supporters, the boogie judges will get you. It’s time for Obama supporter to reap what they sow, so to speak. Obama will not get my vote, and the judges will take years and years to overturn Roe v Wade, if indeed that ever happens. Besides, now there is a morning after pill, and all those rich latte drinking liberal elites can fly off to the caribbean or wherever if they need some kind of procedure done. Or is it the working class folks that we are supposed to be concerned about? Donna Brazile has kicked us working folks out of the democratic party, so hopefully the Republicans will figure out a way to make Reagan Democrat part of their party. Otherwise, the number of independents will be growing. And Kennedy should shut his arrogant, wine drinking mouth.

Posted by: calli | May 9, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

zimeeism,
This is not a creation of Lake Hart or any one person. Look at the stats on the EXIT POLLS for the Clinton -It is non Collage Educated Blue Collar, Working-class White Males 45 plus – The Archie Bunkers. I did not make this up – listen to Hillary’s interview West Virgina Voters, her supporters. Racism is alive and well in America – the Clinton adds fuel to the fire for politics in this campaign. Lake.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Roe v Wade is finally going to be overturned with a McCain administration. And that is not the only good that McCain will do after the idiot dementedrats finish squabbling over which of their affirmative action candidates is more deserving due to past grievances. Good riddance to both Shillary and O’Drama.
McCain 08-16

Posted by: David | May 9, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

calli, I know I am talking to a wall here but the Supreme Court is a very serious issue. And it’s not just about abortion. This is not politics of fear it is the real thing. Are you really that naive that you don’t think conservative judges could change this country. It won’t take years if it is a conservative court. Earth to Calli, some will be retiring soon and then we are in deep trouble if McCain is the pres.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

lisa ,, I understand where you stand. My post was to most of the Obama supporter that i had seen over the past couple of months. I had said that i don’t buy that rev wright crap, as well as other stuff that came up. It’s all just politic. I had not question his royalty to this country. But most of the Obama supporter are nasty to other who don’t share their conviction. they had call the older people history, they call people that question Obama racist, and don’t try to defend them, becasue if you follow most of the blog, you had seen it. I don’t think they are doing Obama a lot of favor. They are almost as bad as wright. Supreme court is importand, but no as important as to people. A lot of people will lost their family, their living and their hope before the kind of change that was invisioned by Obama camp. It takes a lot from people who can affort litte to lose, and it take more than just 4-8 years. do those people don’t count just because they are the ones who do the works that most liberal don’t want to do(waiteress, carpenter, drivers, cashiers, etc.). don’t they had the same right for happinesss? I was one of them not long ago. Just because i can retired now with out financial concern does not mean that i can turn a blind eye on them. I would had voted for Obama if the economy isn’t where it is. But this is not time for experiment. The liberal left don’t care about people, only their ideal. Otherwise they would had waited.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Well Teddy,
You can be a jealous Clinton-hater, but one things for sure— the Vice President will NOT be you, Swimmer!
I guess you still haven’t gotten over that spankin’ Hillary gave you in Massachussetts!

Posted by: NatT | May 9, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer , I agree with you that racism is every where. But I think is from all race, the white, the asian, the black as well as the latino. I doubt you can tell me that just because the black are doing it is fine. I was in the navy in the late 80s and early 90s. Let me assure you that there are just as many black racist as there are white racist. I had to deal with it all the time. I do however had many white and black firends from those days, i had to say that their are a lot more american who are not racist. there more of them just had no understand of people of other race. Once they understand, they can come to term. On the other hand race will always play a factor in things. Can you see Obama getting better than 80% black vote if he’s white? I was told by my co-worker that chinese and latino are stupid and white peopel are smart because they voted for obama, she of course is an immigrant from Africa.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

To Lisa: YOU BETTER HOPE THEY NOMINATE HILLARY THEN!

Posted by: calli | May 9, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

andy sf, I just wrote you a very long post but for some reason it gave me a message that it had to be approved. What’s that all about. It’s not there were bad words.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer, I consider him black and white before he call himself a BLACK candidate before the south carolina primary(to get balck vote). I still don’t see him as black, to me he’s alway both black and white. Now, tell me if that’s the kind of change you are talking about. Show me the record of him on changes, then i will believe. i am no blind believer on faith. i am no longer 25, so i am too old for that.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

calli, you really don’t understand do you. Why is that. And why all the caps.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

lisa, it happen to me a few times before. I wrote y-ou–tu-be on the post and the samething happen to me. If you cahnge a few words, that might help.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

If Sen. Clinton is selected as the VP, does that mean that the VP is now the top job, and the president is now the number two job?
All kidding aside, I think the continued media (ABC News in particular) harping on this idea of a “dream ticket” is totally ludicrous. Anyone with half of a cranium realizes that Barack Obama and Sen. Clinton stand for very different things. While their stated policy objectives may be very close, especially in relation to Sen. McCain, their leadership styles and ideals are very different. Moreover, Sen. Clinton is someone with little if any integrity, while Obama obviously has quite a lot.
For those reasons, I seriously doubt that Obama would be foolish enough to select Sen. Clinton as a running mate. While it is not unusual for the nominee to select a former primary rival to be a running mate, it is not likely to happen in this case, despite the obsessive coverage of this story by ABC News and others.
We are the change we’ve been looking for.

Posted by: w_roos | May 9, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

calli, she won’t be the nominee but I would vote for her if she were.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

C’mon Shillary fans, support McCain and teach those demicraps a lesson about not voting the way you want them to. We do not want odummy’s kind in the white house!

Posted by: David | May 9, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

andy but now I lost what I wanted to say :( lol Why does ABC do that

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer, I am chinese by the way.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

I have very little respect for Ted Kennedy. Everyone talks about Bill Clinton’s infidelity, well what about Ted Kennedy? His actions killed someone and he got away with it. You do all remember Chappaquiddick don’t you? And he’s supporting Barack Obama? Think twice about your vote people.
I’m white, female, middle class and I am not voting for Barack Obama. I just don’t like him. I think he is arrogant and inexperienced. So now that I’ve said that how many of you are going to call me a racist? I’m really sick of reading the word racist in these blogs. I just don’t want to vote for him and I am in no way, shape or form a racist. I think that those of you who call some of the bloggers racists are actually racists yourselves.

Posted by: Sue | May 9, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

To Lisa: It is you and all the other Obama supporters that do not understand. Do not ask women who have fought their whole lives for your reproductive freedom to come and fight for you now after you have trashed Hillary, trashed Bill, trashed Chelsea, and trashed any meaning related to the womens movement? Now you want us to care about what happens to the Supreme Court? If the democratic party cares so much about the Supreme Court, they should nominate the only qualified, electable candidate with a strong bipartisan history and strong support of womens’ issues. Did you notice that not one debate ever focused on womens’s issues? Obama couldn’t be bothered. Good luck in the fall. I will never vote for Obama. The boogie judges don’t scare me.

Posted by: calli | May 9, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Experience? McCain has more than Shillary and Black Obama put together. Shillary is only where she is due to her gender and marriage, and ODrama is only there becaue he is black.
Vote American: McCain!

Posted by: David | May 9, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

andy sf,
You hit it on the nail, there are racist in every race. That is why I said Archie Bunker & George Jefferson is alive and well in the USA. When you talk about social democrat, how about Michael Moore, a great guy, you would love him if you spend a few minutes with him – he is fighting for truth, American Truth and Social Justice for a better America. I know you care about this great land, the homeland of my forefathers for thousands of generation
that is why you are a Democrat ot Independentantis – however if we truly want to turn around the economy and the Failed Bush Policies, we have to COME TOGETHER to prevent John McCain from continuing the SAME’O! SAME’O BUSH STUFF! Patient my friend, and let us give a helping hand to the ARCHIES AND GEORGES, for the USA – the best country in the world! Lake hart.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

andy sf,
You hit it on the nail, there are racist in every race. That is why I said Archie Bunker & George Jefferson is alive and well in the USA. When you talk about social democrat, how about Michael Moore, a great guy, you would love him if you spend a few minutes with him – he is fighting for truth, American Truth and Social Justice for a better America. I know you care about this great land, the homeland of my forefathers for thousands of generation
that is why you are a Democrat ot Independentantis – however if we truly want to turn around the economy and the Failed Bush Policies, we have to COME TOGETHER to prevent John McCain from continuing the SAME’O! SAME’O BUSH STUFF! Patient my friend, and let us give a helping hand to the ARCHIES AND GEORGES, for the USA – the best country in the world! Lake hart.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 9, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

calli, please give me a break. You are out of control and need an chill pill. I have not trashed the Clintons. And your post is nothing more than ranting and raving because Hillary is losing. You are off topic, I am talking about the Supreme Court. So can we talk about that.

Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

When Obama was addressing black, male citizens of North Carolina he called them all brothers. This really bothered me because it told me that he was aligning himself with black, males. My next thought was what about everyone else? What about me? Is he going to care about me because I’m white, female and middle class and I’m not a brother? As president is he going to care about everyone or is he going to focus on a particular population?

Posted by: Sue | May 9, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

To Lisa: I will go and take a bitter chill pill and say good bye to all of you double talking Obamanations. I was talking about the Supreme Court, you just didn’t understand what I was saying, it must have been over your overeducated head. So Good Luck in the Fall. As I said before, the boogie judges don’t scare me. If they scare you, then nominate Hillary.

Posted by: calli | May 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

All that i said about liberal aside, i agree with kenedy. They should be elected base on their own merrit. If the american are to be paying for their vote for bush, they should be paying for a vote for obama or mccain. Hillary won’t be able to doing anything for the american people as Vp. So they should not give her a spot just to make her fell good, and trick her supporter into supporting Obama. Let them vote base on their own choice.

Posted by: andy sf | May 9, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Calli and Sue, I welcome you to the American Part: Republican! But do not simply vote for McCain, actively campaign for him; donate to the RNC and make sure that Black ODrama is soundly beaten. Canvass and make phone calls. Don’t forget those traitorous elected superdelegates either, work to see that they are replaced by Republicans as well.

Posted by: David | May 10, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

calli, sorry you have lost me with your post. You are so angry. I am 53 and educated, so why try to degrade me. Is this what Hillary supporters do now. And I am sorry that you don’t know what the Supreme Court will do. It is scarry.

Posted by: lisa | May 10, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Why would we vote McCain. Please tell me what he would do for this country,

Posted by: d | May 10, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

d ,, can you tell me why would we wvote for Obama, please tell me what would do for this country?

Posted by: andy sf | May 10, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer,,,, after reading you are post i had to ask, are you a spiritual preacher? I though we are in a political process, not selecting a church. If I need another religon, I’ll sure to let you know. I too had many ideas, and plans for this country to had a perfect country. Unfortunatly, that doesn’t qualify me to be the prisident of the United States.

Posted by: andy sf | May 10, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

On second thought,if Obamacans don’t want Hillary on the ticket–no problem!
Obama can take that big vote-getter Dennis “the Grinch” Kucinich as his running mate. Hillary supporters can stay home to keep the progressive movement “pure.”
Barack can get his nasty, hateful caucus thugs to cheat and bully Republicans into voting for him.
Reverend Wright can swear him into office. And Lady McBeth Michelle Obama can serve plenty of hemlock at the inaugural ball.
Yes They Can!Yes They Can!Yes They Can!

Posted by: NatT | May 10, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Hey. Obama is cool.

Posted by: Rick | May 10, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Davis , I am not educated in a degree sense. but I am sure that i had read more than you ever had on a board range of object. If you had IQ over 140, then you can tell me how smart you really are. Otherwise, all the education in the world can’t give you wisdom.

Posted by: andy sf | May 10, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

andy sf & Davis
May be it is way past my bed time. I am sorry that I pressed the post button twice – these are mechanical things – mistake are made. Sorry!!!!!
andy,
I am not a preacher, a spiritual person, I do not need followers – however if the choice is WAR! WAR! WAR! and I have a say it will be NO! NO! NO!
Bush got us where we are, Hillary Clinton voted for war in Iraq and sided with Bush, continually, constantly, because the people who were supporting her campaign were the “Special Interest Warmongers in Washington”. That is why we need change! Get with the program and work for THE PEOPLE’S PARTY – THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY under the Leadership of Sen. Barack Obama! Good night! Lake.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 10, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

andy sf & Davis
May be it is way past my bed time. I am sorry that I pressed the post button twice – these are mechanical things – mistake are made. Sorry!!!!!
andy,
I am not a preacher, a spiritual person, I do not need followers – however if the choice is WAR! WAR! WAR! and I have a say it will be NO! NO! NO!
Bush got us where we are, Hillary Clinton voted for war in Iraq and sided with Bush, continually, constantly, because the people who were supporting her campaign were the “Special Interest Warmongers in Washington”. That is why we need change! Get with the program and work for THE PEOPLE’S PARTY – THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY under the Leadership of Sen. Barack Obama! Good night! Lake.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 10, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

People’s party? Communist propaganda.

Posted by: Moe | May 10, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Dem here who WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. Hillary must win the nomination or McCain will be President! Wake up!

Posted by: Shel | May 10, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

I’m not sure if I can vote for Obama either but I’m not dumb enough to vote for McCain. There are other options out there. If you’re going to vote for McCain then when you leave the polls head str8 to the enlistment office and join the service, and go fight the war in Iraq so the sensible people don’t have to.

Posted by: dk | May 10, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

Did anyone hear David Gergen say that if Hillary becomes veep, Obama is going to need a food taster? And another gentleman followed that remark up with “Everyone knows that Hillary would do ANYTHING to be Presdient.” This is scary thinking — could it be true, though? It might be a lot better for Obama to pick someone else, NOT Hillary.

Posted by: Pam | May 10, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

Did anyone hear David Gergen say that if Hillary becomes veep, Obama is going to need a food taster? And another gentleman followed that remark up with “Everyone knows that Hillary would do ANYTHING to be Presdient.” This is scary thinking — could it be true, though? It might be a lot better for Obama to pick someone else, NOT Hillary.

Posted by: Pam | May 10, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

So let’s see, the Obama camp and everyone who supports and endorses him are saying it’s time to unify the party, and Kennedy’s comments regarding “nobler aspirations of the American people” are helping in what way? Time for MA to put Kennedy to pasture. I agree with the idea of getting rid of “old politics” and when the Obama camp sends Clinton out to pasture they should also send Kennedy, Kerry, Hart, Daschle, Dean, Pelosi, Richardson and so on. Obama says don’t vote for Clinton because she’s “old politics” and yet all the Democrats who support or endorse him are “old politics” and all the politicians that are going to be inspired supposedly by his message/s to bring change upon this Country are “old politics”. So how is Mr. New Politics going to turn those Mr. and Ms. Old Politics into making change? Let’s see how well the Obama camp does in regards to uniting this party because so far, in just the past couple days, as a Clinton supporter I have been nothing but offended. I think Obama’s belief that he can easily sway the Clinton supporters over to his side if he just lays out his positions is misguided and naive. We know his positions and they aren’t that different then Clinton’s and why we don’t support him is because of his record, experience or lack of or for some people his character. So positions aren’t going to do the trick.

Posted by: alpaig | May 10, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

I think a GREAT VP candidate would be the artist and author of the Candorville cartoon strips. He talks about all of this stuff.

Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 10, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

Nancy Pelosi has an approval rating lower than Bush.
Its like 100,000 to 1 against her being ono the ticket.
And she certainly isnt any ‘new’ politician.
Im sure Obama will pick who Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry tell him to pick.
And then he will lose.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 10, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am

dl said “the vp choice could be Rendell too.” -Oh PLEASE – Ed Rendell is the WORST thing that ever happened to Pennsylvania. The man crammed gambling down our throats, supposedly to offer property tax relief & fund schools – Guess where the money is going? Airports, stadiums, and his buddy’s pockets – not ONE dime has gone toward education. Then he’s trying to sell our turnpike to foriegn investors for a paltry sum. We do NOT want him in the White House.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 10, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am

I would like to see Richardson, Webb, or Bob Casey as Obama’s VP pick. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Through out this primary campaign Obama has talked about the old Washington politics and how it is time for the new. Well, the picture of him and Kennedy reminds me about all that is wrong with Washington, starting with old Ted Kennedy politics.
We have been swift boated by our own party. Dean, Pelosi and Reid will see the folly of this in nov. The insults by the radical left of the party will also come “home to roost”.
The great “uniter”, what bunch of bull.

Posted by: Average Joe | May 10, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

I am very happy for Americans who almost have Obama giving a truly alternate point of view.
I feel Obama is moved by the spirit of the common good. I am not sure why day after day we only see numbers for the American dead in Iraq, and not the 700,000 or so Iraqi dead.
Americans are not a race of people. America is an ideal. Justice and equality for all. That’s worth fighting for. That’s worth dying for. Let’s not forget, as outgoing presidential nominee Hillary reminded us, that the world’s sympathy was fully with the US after 9/11. I think you are very lucky to be on the verge of a presidency with Obama. He has indeed shown leadership, and has risen above the pettiness of the day to day. I watched his speech in NC and then his speech on race, and I was amazed. What it comes down to is courage. “Speaking truth to power” is what he does, with a good mind backing it. My God, we are so caught up in the rhetoric, we can forget what brought us to this point: the incredibly cynical and cold-blooded policies of Bush, that were also incredible blunders. Who weeps for the people of Iraq. They too are people of the world. America is an ideal, one that made it strong. Bush has left you weak, weak because you cut off the source of strength. With Obama, you have a chance to be strong again in the best possible way, the original way, and the world will get behind you, and it will be a new day if there is someone in the Whitehouse everyone feels they can trust. Don’t justify the horrific change of American values thrust on you by Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfield. I truly believe if anyone can get Universal healthcare for the US off the mark, if anyone can make America beloved again, and solve the middle east peace problems, it will be Obama.
Just wait until he tours the world, people will be waving American flags for him. I will.
God Bless America: have hope again, have dreams. Change is coming to Washington. It’s about the Spirit of the idea. I feel it, I hope you all do too.
-Khal Shariff

Posted by: Khaleroo | May 10, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

The ones pulling the strings on Obama are WE THE PEOPLE. WE are working to get him elected. WE are donating to the cause. WE support him and WE are empowered to take our country back.
GO OBAMA 08

Posted by: dotheresearch | May 10, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

WRONG Shel, Hillary has already lost the nod and she knows it. She is just going thru the motions to take care of some unfinished business. She would have done a good job but Obama will be better for this country at this time. He’ll be able to start cleaning up the mess caused by the whole bush-league. Obama will also win in the fall by a landslide against mc-more-war. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

There are really to many Republicans passing themselves off as Hillary or Barack supporters. This only to get the dems fighting among themselves so as to forget the real important issues. I guess this is the continuation of operation chaos, this is pitiful that a great party such as the Republicans must resort to trickery, lies, distortion to salvage a party devoid of ideas that are needed by America.
Such as abortion rights, an end to the Iraq war, Healthcare reform, economic and energy plan,Education, honest governance and a plan for the future
Don’t believe the hype!!
Dems United o8

Posted by: jld1959 | May 10, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

I do not respect Kennedy’s statement and there are millions like me! I guess we should chalk it up to his lack of respect for women starting at Chappaquidick! He and Kerry can’t even get Massachusettes to vote their way. LOL

Posted by: Liz | May 10, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

The ugly face of Ted Kennedy on the podium… He is already playing the puppet master, Obama in the background like a little schoolboy… The eager (loser) Teddy taking over, dictating who Barak should chose and do… And Barak is just sitting there quietly letting Teddy speak like a complice without pulling him down… So that later if it flops, Barak can blame it all again on someone else. Well maybe Obama owes something to Teddy for services rendered??? Just check this out …. And vote Obama if you want Ted Kennedy part of the deal. http://www.newsmax.com/

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 10, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

As a Hillary supporter, I would vote McCain if she is not nominated. Why would I vote McCain even though a democrat?
For several reasons:
McCain has promised to….
Remove all pork barrel spending and balance the Federal budget. This is our #1 reason for Social Security shortfall.
Will not raise taxes — payroll and capital gains like Obama. Has also promised to get rid of the AMT to help the middle class.
Help the economy: By rewarding those who invest in businesses which in turn will promote job growth.
Will get us out of Iraq honorably even though it may take some time, I would rather be patient than have a mess in the Middle East.
Appoint justices who interpret the law instead of interpreting with their own stances.
My #1 reason not to vote for Obama is that he is a big time liberal with tons of influential liberal friends and they will tank the economy in the name of fixing it and we will find ourselves fighting a huge depression again! It will be a nightmare. Although, I just have the one vote, I will fight hard for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee and my donations for the democrats will instead go to the swift boaters. I never believed I would say this by it has been so disheartening to see the course taken by the democratic party.

Posted by: Voter | May 10, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

How does anyone think that Obama is the “most liberal voting senator” when he did not vote for ANY of the pro choice bills at all? He abstained.

Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 10, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

yo! pt: what kind of democrat are you?! – the people are still voting!!! – but no, you want to leave them out – Just as you want to leave MI and FL out?Why should you care, as long as you had a say – Why is that?

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 10, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Retro, I’m a realistic democrat. As for FL & MI they broke the rules and they knew they were breaking the rules. (Actually the republicans forced FL to move the date since they had the majority there. FL is always screwing things up aren’t they.) Hopefully FL & MI can get it right in the fall. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

What makes me so sad is that it really won’t matter who wins, not a lot will change. What we need, regardless of WHO wins (I think they are all shades of gray) – are NEW energy policies, and to get our butts OFF of oil reliance. Until we address our oil dependency, anduntil we get serious, as many other capitalist & industrialized nations have, we will be slaves to oil. Thereby, our Govt will still kowtow to Big Oil like Exxon. There has been a complete lack of leadership across the board on this for YEARS, and America is falling BEHIND. Before too long, we will be completely irrelevant to the global community. A *crisis* is coming, and no one will be able to afford the last barrel of oil. Our new leadership needs to break our slavery to Big Oil.

Posted by: Deb | May 10, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

I would love an Obama/Wesley Clark ticket.

Posted by: truth serum | May 10, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Well folks, what do you think about the guy who includes people who say that 9/11 was a punishment that America deserved and America needs more days like 9/11. These are people who should have been imprisoned because they tried to bomb the capitol building but got away on a technicality! Do you think this guy is better than McCain who became a POW and was tortured and could have walked free had he sold out to the enemies? Do you believe this guy is better than McCain who said bomb Iran because of the strong rhetoric of Ahmedinejad, the Iranian president? Do you really believe that this guy is better than McCain? Talk about priorities and what is important — Do you seriously believe just because of a few words uttered in the lightness of the moment is more serious than the guy who sat day after day with people who hate America and believe that they were a part of his inner circle of friends? I agree that Hillary is better than McCain but Obama??? Give me a break!

Posted by: Voter | May 10, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

I bet Ted Kennedy wasn’t too happy with Clinton calling for his No Child Left Behind law to be scrapped. It cost millions to enact in 2000 and created more problems than help with public education.

Posted by: katrina | May 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Say, Ted, what happened to “voting with your constituents”? Guess that’s just the rule for people who back Clinton. Obviously, Obama is Kennedy’s chance to firmly plant his feet inside the threshold of the oval office and play President vicariously through BO.

Posted by: sjc | May 10, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

All I know is I am voting for Obama whoever he choses for a running mate!!
I have been a democratic voter for many elections and I have never seen a woman or black man create so much excitement.
I believe that the Obama appeal is his background and his platform to work with ordinary Americans. He understands what prejudice is and he didn’t grow up having everything, but his single (white) mother gave him the tools and support he needed to work towards earning a good education and self improvement. I believe he wants to “Unite” people and energize them as equals to do the best they can to live the American dream and that is truly a new dynamic.
I believe he will work for all the people and that is a very important part of being Commander and Chief of the greatest nation on earth.
I am proud to say I went into the California primary booth to actually vote for Senator Clinton because I knew who she was and out of nowhere I voted for Obama, a light went on in my head in the voter’s booth and I couldn’t forget his theme “CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN”. I thought for a few more seconds about some of his campaign slogans and things he brings to the table, so I voted for Obama.
I think all Americans need something to believe in and someone who understands the human condition before political fallout.

Posted by: Lou | May 10, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Lou, Everyone that voted for Obama feels the same way. It will take more than words to fix the mess were in. Research who you vote for. A campaign slogan is just a campaign slogan.

Posted by: superdawg | May 11, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I keep seeing the question of how any Democrat can vote for McCain in November if Obama gets the nod, and then the whole list of why McCain is so bad for this country. Don’t you see, many of us would rather vote for a man who does not represent us on every issue than vote for a man who has gotten the nomination by lying and cheating and race-baiting and avoiding the tough questions of who he is and what he really believes in. We consider ourselves Americans first, and because of the disgusting tactics of the DNC in this nominating process, Democrats way, way behind in second place.

Posted by: Grammy Barb | May 11, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Teddy was probably too drunk to know what he said anyway.

Posted by: kneedermyer | May 11, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

Kennedy is correct in every way.
Hillary blew her chances at VP through dirty campaigning and attempts to use racism to win the presidency. She has guaranteed Obama’s inability to trust her.
The Hillary supporters need to accept this reality.
I still would like to see a female VP, such as Claire McCaskill. Now that’s an impressive women.

Posted by: Mike Denhof | May 11, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

Claire McCaskill is the idiot who let her teenage daughter manipulate her into supporting Obama. She said on television her teenage duaghter threatend to never speak to her again if she didn’t support Obama. I wish I lived in Misspuri so I could vote against her. If that is the way she decide candidates then she doesn’t belong in politics. Let her run the PTA.

Posted by: Kelly | May 11, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Look at all the people the Clinton’s have either killed or ruined in the past… Do any of you really think they wouldn’t have Obama capped for the presidency??? you know they would, they have done it for less.
Mark my words if Obama allows a dream ticket, he sanctions his own demise.

Posted by: WISDOM | May 11, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

You people are so misguided. Obama/Clinton ticket equals President McCain.
If Obama gets the Nom. and you are a Clinton supporter that will vote for McCain — you have no principles. Obama and Clinton are almost identical on all policies, and you’d drop everything important about the real issues to vote for McCain?—McCain?!–who will bring the same policies as the Bush’s? WHY?! (sigh)
Stop being close minded and vote based on the real issues. The War, the Economy, Healthcare, Gas, education. Geez, America act like you have some sense.
Oh, by the way.. Richardson/Obama equals President McCain.
Obama NEEDS a Gov. or Sen. from one of the swing states–OHIO, PENN either a moderate Democrat with experience and white blue collar appeal OR a Moderate Republican to win the GE.
Clinton/McCain would be a good ticket but then again, wouldn’t that be pandering?
Cheers.

Posted by: David | May 11, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Remember Chappiquidick?(sp.?) Many Obama supporters don’t have a clue. Ted Kennedy was drunk, drove off a bridge and a young woman campaign worker for him was with him and she drowned. He swam to safety, supposedly tried to save her that night but couldn’t and didn’t report the incident to the authorities until many hours later the next morning.
This is the man who endorses Obama and thinks Hillary Clinton would bring down the ticket as vice-president. As Bill Clinton, would say, “Give me a break!”
Kennedy certainly knows “character” when he sees it, i. e. through the jaundiced colored eyes of an alcoholic “has-been”, who is lucky the incident described above didn’t happen in today’s world because he might have had to endorse Obama from behind bars.
Actually, Ted Kennedy’s statement is a blessing in disguise for Hillary Clinton. If Obama is given the democratic nomination, he will lose to McCain this fall and it will be “embarrassing” to the democratic party. Maybe in 4 years, the party will come to their senses and realize they need to listen to the “moderates” in their party, provided of course there any “moderates left to be found.”

Posted by: Cathy in Ks. | May 12, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

Ol’ man Kennedy has lost it. Not only has Obama’s arrogance incensed Hillary supporters, but Kennedy has just added gobs of gasoline to that flame. That drunk has got some nerve. How many times did he try to run for president? Seems like a million….all to no avail. His own constituency, the people of Massachusetts voted in Hillary’s favor. He’s trying to live vicariously through Obama. He knows that Hillary could never, and would never be his puppet. If Obama turns out to be the nominee, we’d better get used to saying “President McCain”. I for one don’t like the sound of that.

Posted by: GiveMeABreak02 | May 12, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Kennedy has a lot of experience bringing the party together…remember when he refused to shake hands with Carter when Carter won the nomination? And isn’t good old Ted responsible for reaching across to Bush for “No Child Left Behind”?
Here’s the deal….this is a different kind of election…the internet and the media have made all the difference. The fact that McCain and not an ultra conservative is the Republican nominee puts a lot of states in play. So when Obama says “Yes we Can!” Clinton voters say “No we Won’t”.
We have been undermined and called ridiculous names and underestimated throughout this process…..Believe it or not…we are not coming home to the Democrats! “No we Won’t” vote Obama.

Posted by: JA | May 12, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Obama IS CLUELESS how many states are in the Union. He is thinking: was it 57 or is it 59…
Notwithstanding, he wants to be President!
No worries, help is at hand! Uncle Teddy Kennedy has already taken over
the podium, he is on the bridge and stearing Obama’s wessel. The other
helper is the young John Kerry who flip-flops on issues which only confuses Jimmy Carter sitting next to him. Pelosi is the weatherman but all she can do is tell what everyone already knows that the storm is coming. Can she stop it? Of course not. Then there is Richardson the light-house operator if he can get up 20 flight of stairs before
he changes his mind.
Obama supporters wakey wakey…

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 12, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

what’s kennedy really up to? if obama doesn’t neutralize hillary by kicking her upstairs as his vp, the way reagan did bush, then she’s just going to spend her senate career kneecapping his presidency. you know, the way kennedy did carter. or is that ted’s plan?

Posted by: tommy jonq | May 14, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

I will remember Rockerfellow and all the other dem.When their election time comes. A CHANGE IS NOT LETTING TEDDEY TELL YOU ANYTHING.

Posted by: Jean | May 15, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

The DNC fears riots and burning of neighborhoods if Obama is not the nominee.
Well, the white blue collar/middle class voters we will not riot/burn/threaten violence. We will silently go to the polls in November and vote for McCain – that is our way of protesting.
Be afraid of that DNC/Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi/Reid/elites of the Democratic Party

Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | May 17, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

If I was Obama I would be very cautious about HRC as VP. She wants to be president not VP. She could quickly become president from the VP spot. Look what happened to that Stewart fellow from Whitewater.

Posted by: jim | May 17, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

There’s an awful lot of “democrats” on here that sound an awful lot like republicans…Operation Chaos remains in full swing…

Posted by: maggiembbx3 | May 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I don’t understand why CLinton supporters would vote for McCain if Obama was the nominee. It just doesn’t make sense. Is this more stupid commentary by the media to pressure Obama into choosing her?? If these people were real democrats, how could they vote for a republican who would be more of the same last 8 years. And he has no exit strategy in Iraq. Let’s get a democratic in. And I used to be a republican who voted for W twice. I have had enough of him and the R party.

Posted by: Kavita | May 17, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

If Obama truly wanted to unite the Democratic party, he would absolutely want Hillary as a VP. Clinton is currently WINNING the popular vote, if we include all of the country’s votes. (See ABC/Politics/Popular Vote Count for proof of this claim.)
For Obama or any politician, it is much easier to talk about unity/change than to take the actions necessary to bring it about.

Posted by: Carlos | May 17, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

yes, but Hillary is not a uniter. And she will always be trying to one up Obama if she is the VP. Look at the role she played when Bill was president. I doubt she will sit around and help Obama do a great job. I don’t understand why people dislike Obama and like Hillary. As a woman, she is the last person I would vote for!

Posted by: Borninkl | May 17, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

All people who say they would vote for McCain if their prefered democratic candidate doesn’t get elected are idiots! Just shows the low IQ!

Posted by: Pascal | May 17, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

To: Borninkl — Having followed Ms. Clinton’s career since she was First Lady of Arkansas, I have witnessed her ability to push for change.
Hillary was extremely courageous to take on the insurance companies in the early 1990′s when no one else dared.
She has fought for education improvement which is why most Teacher’s unions have endorsed Hillary over Obama.
She has fought for health care reform which is why most Nurse’s unions have endorsed Hillary over Obama, too.
Clinton has a rich resume of service to our country. Yes, she has made some enemies along the way (mostly Republicans) as she has fought for Democratic values.
Hillary is not a fence sitter, as I fear Obama will be. She clearly takes a side, one which benefits the middle class over corporate interests, and fights to the death for it. This may not UNITE the parties, but it helps THE PEOPLE who are suffering with foreclosures, poverty, no health insurance, etc…
Please review her accomplishments regarding military benefits for National Guard members and Traumatic Brain Injury. Both of these issues affect my family members. It has been very hard for us.
Hillary has proven that she can make a difference. I don’t so much like her as I RESPECT her. I am thankful she fought for my family. I do not see her as a woman – but as someone who has made my life better by being on our side. She cared when no one else did.

Posted by: Chelsea S. | May 17, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Chelsea, i will read Hillary’s accomplishments re: traumatic brain injury. Unfortunately, those who started this war don’t really seem to care about the injured who come back and helping them as well as the iraqis who want to move here after helping american troops at the risk of their own lives.
I did learn some about Hillary from Carl Bernstein’s book on her. He is not a conservative person, so I thought the book was quite fair.
I think the thing that stood out, especially with the health care inititative from 1993, is that there was a way to try and make it better and acceptable and she did not accept advice from anyone, hence it fell apart. I worked in the heatlhcare industry for both a hospital and an insurance company for 10 years and know that something has to be done. I’ve had no insurance since last March (but am getting it soon). So I know the struggles in that area. Not sure if I agree with nationalized insurance but something has to be done.

Posted by: borninkl | May 17, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Get over it people. We have had Democrats jump over to the Republican side before and it’s because the Democrats make the same mistake over and over and over and nominate candidates that don’t connect with the 3/4 of this Country which is working class (defined by not having a college education) and lower middle class. The two times we won we had candidates who were able to pull in those voters, Carter and Clinton. If Obama does not win it will not be because of the Clinton supporters it will be because of a Democratic party that seems to be incapable of learning and even when given what should be a slam dunk election for the Democrats, they will just screw it up and nominate someone who won’t win.

Posted by: alpaig | May 18, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

Don’t worry Teddy, Hillary wants no part of that sinking ship.

Posted by: benjamin hancock | May 20, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

What does Senator Kennedy have against the Clintons? I agree that he wants to control Senator Obama. Possibly the Clintons did not always support the measures he wanted and threatened his (senior-Senator) status in the Senate. Bah humbug on you Kennedy! Get over it! You already ruined our best hope for President…Hillary Clinton. Quit trying to be king-maker and retire! Kudos to the people of Mass who see through you and voted for Hillary!

Posted by: jerrydtx | July 6, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

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