McCain Advisor Accuses Obama of Underhanded Reference to McCain’s Age
ABC News’ Ron Claiborne Reports: The McCain campaign lashed out at Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, for what it called an insulting dig at Sen. John McCain’s age.
In an interview on CNN, Obama accused McCain of trying to "smear" him by saying that the Palestinian militant group Hamas favored his candidacy.
"And so for him to toss out comments like that I think is an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination," Obama said.
The McCain campaign said the "losing his bearings" comment was an underhanded reference to the fact that McCain is 71 years old.
Mark Salter, one of the advisers, said, "Obama’s attack today: He used the words ‘losing his bearings’ intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain’s age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning."
"That quote is a not-so-subtle attempt by Obama to insinuate the age issue into the race," another McCain adviser said. " He attacks viciously with subtlety and innuendo. Nobody suggested he supports Hamas. We have said the North American spokesman (for Hamas) has talked about how wonderful it would be if he were president of the United States."
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton denied that Obama was alluding to McCain’s age.
"Clearly losing one’s bearings has no relation to age," Burton said in an e-mailed statement.
"Given this bizarre rant that Mark Salter just sent out, it’s clear why a candidate offering a third term of George Bush’s disastrous economic policies and failed strategy in Iraq would want to distract and attack."

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I agree it was an underhanded jibe at McCain’s experience. I was thinking the same thing, the minute I read that phrase about “bearings.” Just how “disoriented & confused” can Obama become? If he wants to point out how much more experienced his opponent is, it will not do him much good with intelligent voters. Most people with any foresight recognize that someday, if they don’t go for the alternative, they will get older.
Posted by: Karma | May 8, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Losing his bearings is like losing a grip on reality. It has nothing to do with age. This is so far fetched.
Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 8, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
“Getting bearings,” and hence “losing one’s bearings” is a navigational term. It is akin to saying “has lost his moral compass” or “strayed from the high road.”
Get a grip, people. He didn’s say “lost his ballbearings” or “lost his marbles.” If those are the first things you thought of, then maybe you ought to examine how YOU really feel about McCain’s age.
Posted by: Daley Dunham | May 8, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Pray tell us what he did mean by that phrase “losing his bearings”? Sounds like an old car to me. As we already know, Obama can use a phrase like “bitter….so they cling to their guns and their religion”…WE GET IT! It’s called hit and run tactics. He makes a hit, then his surrogates try to clean it up for him. Pennsyvanians have not forgotten the “bitter” remark, and neither have we.
Obama’s problem is that he is green. It is too much information to remember every detail. He forgets, then says something so satirical, if not stupid.
That is exactly why he cannot and does not want to debate. He needs a speech, even if it is one someone else already gave.
Posted by: georgia | May 8, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Come on, the guy is OLD. He would be the oldest guy ever elected. IT IS AN ISSUE. mc-more-war should retire with his millionaire wife and enjoy the time he has left. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | May 8, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
He has lost his bearings, From the Maverick to the Republican mouthpiece. Since his lost to Bush and his capitulation to the Republican Party, I have lost all respect for the man.
His continued support for the Bush Policies shows, no proves, he he has lost his bearings
Posted by: Thinking | May 8, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Let’s talk about the issues. Enough of this he said she said. What’s the price of gas? What’s going on with this war?
Posted by: Don Hannaford | May 8, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Ageism, Pilots have to retire from flying at age 60. That’s not ageism is it. Would you want an 80 year-old flying your plane or doing your triple bypass? Age is an issue. A president has to be on top of things. Remember Reagan in his second term? Besides have you heard the stories about his temper? Most senators have a story about how mccain lost-it one time or another. This country does not need an OLD, HOT-TEMPERED guy dealing with this country’s problems.
Posted by: pt | May 8, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
ok, let’s talk about how here in Illinois when obama was in the Illinois Senate, he was approached by a Village of people (near Chicago) who were worried because the nearby Nuclear Powerplant decided that it could dump nuclear waste near their Village and not have to even tell them.
They asked for help from Senator obama. His calls in the Villagers’ defense in the Legislature got more dim with time, until obama finally caved in and actually signed a bill that supported the Nuclear power plant, instead.
Geez……
Posted by: AGEISM IS HATEFUL | May 8, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
What else can the McCain camp say to distract voters’ attention from McCains clumsy insult on Obama? It was a strong indicator that McCain is really not all that committed to deliver on his pledge to run a respectful campaign.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | May 8, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
I find it interesting that everybody has instantly assumed he was talking about McCain’s age… Is it not all of us that had the ‘age factor’ trigger in our heads when the phrase was muttered??? Is it not a fact? He is saying what we are all thinking. It was no great leap for anyone to think this was an age reference… It is just not nice to pick on an old man… think about it.
Posted by: DPhelps | May 8, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
oh, PT, come ON. “Loosing it” and getting hot-tempered has NOTHING to do with getting older; it implies that you have passion for something. I’ll bet Senator Ted Kennedy has gotten plenty hot-tempered in his LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG career.
Age, people, is NOT indicitive of “losing one’s facilities”. THAT IS A MYTH. Just as some younger people get Alzheimer’s at an early age, there are MANY older people who are still VERY MUCH WITH IT, even at age 99. Age has NOTHING to do with a person getting “rotten in the brain”: DISEASE DOES. Let this be your FIRST LESSON about AGE, people. You have a lot to learn.
Posted by: AGEISM IS HATEFUL | May 8, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
As for the comment, it seems clear he was making another reference to the ‘straight-talk express’ losing its wheels. He has been consistent in that message; if you don’t care for him or this supposition, that’s fine but it wasn’t an “ageism” attack.
On the other hand, it does not help McCain to bring up his age. I do not think he is too “old” like Jack Murtha said, but being President ages you (look at Bush and Clinton before and after). And McCain has had cancer as well. Don’t think that matters? Well, you don’t have to go back very far to Paul Tsongas. This is going to be an issue (spoken or otherwise) until he chooses his VP candidate.
Posted by: MIguy | May 8, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Age has nothing to do with it. McCain has always been this way. One of his symptoms is that he doesn’t consider what the reaction might be to his actions or comments. They have medication.
Posted by: Web Smith | May 8, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
It will be incredible this fall to see how many fired-up democrats of any age will have ‘lost their bearings’ along with Rush, Hannity, and Coulter, and go to the polls to vote for Republican McCain and his pledges for unlimited continuation of the Bush war in Iraq, his pledges to appoint multiple conservative judges, his pledge to leave health care alone, and his pledged support for the continued heavy Bush tax breaks for the rich. Really, it’s not rural whites that are bitter, it’s scorned and angry Hillary supporters. Thanks Hillary, for doing what the party elders feared- tearing the democratic party apart at the seams. Hope you can salvage the party in a few weeks- it’s all up to you.
Posted by: rob | May 8, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
@Vietvet: My point is that gauging their intentions is problematic. It seems silly that they would signal their preferred candidate. It makes more sense that they would think that whomever they “support” would get negative blowback. Continuation of Bush’s non-policies and wars in the area helps Hamas.
Posted by: MIguy | May 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Ah i see its the general election time. Please GOP suck it up. You wanted someone to be tough and someone who wasnt soft and he throws a little shot at youre whinning? looks like this election might be a cake walk. if rev wright is somehow a legit issue for a job application then age sure is too. you cant enter the military if youre older than 30 something and you cant run for president if youre younger than 36. now age isnt an issue? why is the drinking law 21 the voting law 18 and the driving law 16? hmm think about it. Toughen up repubs
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
He’s 71? I didn’t know that he was so old.
Posted by: michael | May 8, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
It’s funny- if Hillary or Bill had said that McCain had ‘lost his bearings’ on an issue, no one would have said anything! Why? Everyone wants to parse anything Barack says. He can’t win for losing with this bitter crowd.
Posted by: rob | May 8, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
McCain’s a Navy man, if he does not know that ‘losing his bearings’ means then he is just lying. Everyone in the Navy knows that phrase means that you have lost your way. “Bearings” is a navigational word in that context.
People, if you think it means anything else then your arguement is foolish. So if the Navy man wants to say this is anything else than a person saying “you have lost your way” then they are….
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
–Miguy, that is an interesting point. Hamas enjoys such popular support among its followers because of the continuing tensions among Arabs, Israel & the US. I don’t believe they are that calculating however. To me, it’s more likely that they believe Obama will be weak & concede more to their side.
Posted by: Vietvet | May 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
What is McCain talking about. IS IT his age to interpret Obama’s remarks as “agist.” The intelligent inference and the inference normal people would conclude is that Obama meant McCain moral compass by making personal attacks on Obama after saying he would run a campaign devoid of these kinds of remark. MAYBE IT IS HIS AGE.
Posted by: jbate | May 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
I don’t know why people treat McCain with baby gloves. So what he was a war hero?? There are thousands of war heroes who have been convicted with crimes maybe we should just let them off the hook. There are war heroes with medals of honer that are roaming the streets homeless because of mental illness. McCain has been protected too long by the oversensitive MSM and republican propaganda machines. He is as corrupt and twisted as they come. Cheated on his 1st wife and dumped her. He will not release his wife’s tax return where bribes money laundering takes place, a warmonger who is itching to press the nuclear button or at minimum create major instabilities. I cannot wait to see him swift boated to oblivion.
Posted by: Jan E | May 8, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
As a sailor I know losing ones bearing is getting off your compass course. The first thing I thought of was McCain’s moral compass. I say this because McCain is strong on having a moral compass, unlike President Bush, who has none that he shares with anyone who watches his actions. Anyway, even after having it explained, I can’t see why anyone would think this a comment aimed at McCain’s age.
Even John Stewart called McCain on the comment about Hamas. It is clearly hypocritical for McCain to say he is taking the moral high road and to say Hamas endorses Obama. McCain has in fact lost his bearing (his moral compass).
Posted by: allen edwards | May 8, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
It is SO obvious what is coming. McCain is going to play the victim, just like Obama has been doing these past months. The Republicans are going to paint Obama’s campaign as the “attack dogs” just as Obama did with Clinton.
I wonder how it feels having the shoe on the other foot!
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
So, meeting with tyrants is not oaky for an American President? Where were you folks when our Presidents were in bed with the Central American dictators, Iran’s Shah, South American military Junta? You folks must be young kids, or hypocrites!
Hamas leader said that Obama will be a great President like JFK. So why not start trashing JFK too, just because Hamas leader said that he was great? Do you see the bigotry in these statements that the Hillary supporters and McCain supporters are making?
Posted by: FR | May 8, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
As McCain’s 96-year old mother said when asked about the support from the conservative base of the Republican Party: “Just hold your nose and vote for him!” How witty and sharp is that!” She has not “lost her bearings”, and neither has he. He is not green, either. He has great relevant experience. Praise for the wisdom of age and experience! She gets it, and so do we.
Posted by: georgia | May 8, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Being a pilot it seems to me that “loosing your bearings” means you’ve strayed from your intended direction and need to make corrections to find the correct path again.
Guess McCain’s camp is going for the sympathy vote of picking on an old guy like Hillary did in New Hampshire about picking on a woman.
Posted by: Paul | May 8, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
All you reporters out there do a little research.
Here is what John McCain said while attacking President Bush and defending his good buddy and almost running mate John Kerry in 2004:
‘If you don’t stand by your friends if they are unfairly attacked,” Mr. McCain said Friday, ”then you’ve lost your bearings.” John McCain, 2004.
Was this an ageism attack on his party’s own leader, President Bush? Of course not. John McCain’s irrational and testy response shows us how unstable his campaign will be run this fall. He’s dead in the water. Oh whoops, is that also an uncalled for ageism comment? McCain has a short memory. whoops again..,how about we get real for once. Hillary makes a racist comment today, and nobody gives a darn. Let’s parse everything Obama says to find the hidden radical islamic meanings!!
Posted by: rob | May 8, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
We now know where his oh so kind supporters get there attitudes. He clearly doesn’t care what his supporters say about anything or anyone,
Thier disrespect comes right from the top,they are so mature that they alway resort to putting people down.
Posted by: Melissa | May 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Both of these guys are such losers. One of them thicks he’s Mr. Universe, and the other one is an old crank who tried to portray himself as Mr. Squeaky Clean, and at the same time throws his party under the Straight Talk Express bus. What a bunch of chumps.
Posted by: Frustrated Voter | May 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
typical Obama….like Senator Clinton being “in her silly season”. So insulting and someone thinks he should be President? This is madness. This Black woman will vote McCain before she votes Obama!
Posted by: Virginia in NC | May 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Of course he was using the term to relate to his age, just as he used “the finger” for Clinton. He is great at speeches and telling folks what they want to hear, and using other means to “say” what he doesn’t want to actually “say”. He is absolutely a great politician, nothing more. And more politicians are exactly what we need , right you Obama supporters!!
Posted by: barb | May 8, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
obama whines about race – turn about is fair play.
i’m for hillary or mccain.
Posted by: XTRA1XTRA2 | May 8, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I pray more American are seeing what a piece of garbage Obama really is.
Posted by: geevill | May 8, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
This doesn’t matter, Obama is destined to lose. What has he done to date..he has won ONLY half of the vote among his OWN party, wow what an achievement. The general election is a completely different set of equations, and the broader American electorate by a wide margin are not going to tolerate the inexperienced, condescending, anti-American nonsense that is Obama.
Posted by: Johnny D. | May 8, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Ok, will someone please tell Senator McCain he’s better off keeping his arms at his side?
His jerky arm movements are distracting in a bad way, and it makes it difficult to take in what he is saying when you keep seeing his spazzy, robotic arm movements.
Posted by: shaw, CA | May 8, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Realistically if you take away the black and college age voters who else is supporting Obama?
Posted by: Bob | May 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
To JR: Guess you missed Donna Brazile’s meltdown on CNN Tuesday night. Donna has declared that there is a “new democratic party” which does not include most of the groups you mentioned. Basically, the “new democratic party” is AA’s, eggheads, and rich latte drinking elites. Anyone have a good definition of an egghead? Anyway, don’t waste your time with the democrats, because they don’t want the irrelevant groups anymore. Donna, Obama and the DNC are going to take their movement to the White House the good old fashioned Chicago way, the fix is in and we can’t do anything about it. Say hello to his royal majesty, I’ve already declared myself the winner, snarky barky Obama.
Posted by: frisco girl | May 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
McCain is too old to become the US president. Obama didn’t even tell that he (McCain) is aged. In fact you can not tell blind to a blind.
Posted by: Purushsharma73 | May 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Lol this is rich. in 2004 the GOP launched all sorts of trash at John Kerry and his wife, but mccain and cindy get a free pass because why? she doesnt have to release her tax records and its cool, mccain hasnt released his health records and its cool. Obama makes one comment and the republican world is about to topple. Its called passive aggression. we liberals learned that with our book readin. Barack said he will be plenty tough against McCain. You thought he couldnt handle it and he just hit you with a small shot. Suck it up GOP you got what you asked for. and its not even day one of the general election.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Right on to say Obama “attacks viciously with subtlety and innuendo”. That is what he’s good at and has been doing all along. That is why people don’t feel he attacks even he does – so he attacks and still get sympathy votes because people seem only see Clinton attacks – that is because they feel Clinton attacks even she doesn’t. That’s what’s been unfair about this competition, that is one of many similar reasons that my vote will never go to Obama. Come on, Hill supporters, if you feel strongly about what I feel, please let’s all vote for McCain in GE, that would guarantee Obama doesn’t get elected. Let’s all work together – Obama failure in GE would be a big victory for Hillary!
Posted by: tiger | May 8, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
tiger, we’re called “Clinton Republicans”!!
Posted by: Gerry | May 8, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Republicans needs to grow up. McCrazy complains about everything, have you noticed? He’s such a cry baby.
Posted by: mark | May 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Hillary is the stronger of the two against McCain. She can take anything he’s got and she’d hit him right back. Obama is as tough as a wet noodle.
Posted by: Sagmeister | May 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
It is tough to imagine how Obama could lose to an OLD, Ill-tempered, adulterous guy like mc-more-war. But then again there were enough idiots in this country to elect bush/cheney twice. (actually he lost the first but that’s another story). Hopefully these idiots have grown a little wiser over the last 7.5 years. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | May 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
McCain is too old to handle this risky world where you need a lot of judgment skill. Having military experience gives you edge in a battlefield but not as a commander in chief. He has anger management problem too. He carries everything that Bush has.
Hey America, choose McCain if you love going back to 20th century and 19 century afterwards. Good luck to you all who vow to vote for McCain. He is the past NOT future.
Posted by: Purushsharma73 | May 8, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
I think like some others here, that Obama should not have been so smug as to do the Time cover. I am quite sure he knew what would be titled over his picture.
Why people are so quick to end the race is beyond me. Let the people vote and let Clinton campaign. There is nothing wrong with it. Will she get the nomination, I seriously doubt it. But she has the right to continue this.
I think its wrong for people to make personal attacks on her, especially without knowing all her accomplishments. It is a shame how low people will go. Why is it necessary to attack the opponent? Especially when your candidate is winning. Why not give us something of substance as far as why Obama would be the better leader.
To say, I have had enough of her, please go away…just shows immaturity. I thought as Americans that we value the Democratic process. Patience is a virtue…ever hear of that one?
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
According to Hillary and Obama, the definition of rich is anyone or any corporation earning more than 200 to 250K a year. Liberal democrats would like people that earn this much or more to pay significantly more in income tax so that it cam be redistributed to those who are less ‘financially fortunate’. If this seems reasonable to you, vote for the democrat. If this seems ridiculously unfair and you would rather see tax reforms that spread the burden out among all tax payers, like most of Europe does with value added sales taxes, etc, you should vote for the Republican candidate. Not really sure why red America votes for republicans if democrats would redistribute wealth to the masses. Is it fear? Patriotism? Family values? Homophobia? Security worries? Racism? These are the usual republican talking points. This year it will be about the economy/recession, jobs, gas, Iraq war, health care, mortgage crisis, and a desire for change. McCain has his temper, age, limited intelligence, and lack of republican conservative base support to make matters worse for the republicans this year. Good luck with that, Mr. 894 out of 899 at the Naval Academy.
Posted by: rob | May 8, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Zime: he didnt ask to do it, they took a picture of him and did it. he said he thought it was bad luck and wasnt overlooking senator clinton. you did see the asterisk next to his picture right?
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
These Obama supporters get nowhere by going on about McCains age. Most people could care less. To say that McCain is another Bush shows their lack of understanding. They must blog all day and night and never really get a true understanding of who the candidates are.
It is a shame that people vote knowing so little.
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
McCain is OLD and lost his bearings a long time ago. He has a temper problem connected to a mental problem. He has no morals as shown when he dumped his crippled wife. Remember Keating 5. It will very dangerous to put that man anywhere close to that button. His knickname s was PUNK and McNasty and for a good reason. Was 6th from the bottom of his class. Got over 100 demerits.
When I was discharged from Service WWII I was so proud of this country. George Bush and his cronies have ruined it. God help my Grandchildren.
Posted by: Westacan | May 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Come off it, Obama is not a piece of garbage, he’s just a fairly poor kid who’s done well for himself in Chicago circles & in Illinois politics. He made an inspirational speech at the Demo convention, so right away people start thinking about him as potential material for President. He has come up too fast for the amount of experience he has to catch up. Also, he has a lot of baggage in the form of financial support from wheelers & dealers like Rezko, because he was black & couldn’t find it anywhere else.
……………………………….
He’s not evil, he’s not the next Jesus, he’s just a young-ish senator from Illinois who probably is having his head filled with all kinds of crap from advisors & current financial supporters. If he can still make any sense at all, it’s evidence he IS very intelligent. But he’s not ready to be President. He should take a diplomatic or cabinet post first, get a few more years of diverse experience before trying to run. I see him as a half-risen loaf of yeast bread that a lotta hungry folks are trying to stick in the oven so they won’t haveta starve anymore.
Posted by: Kat Baker | May 8, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
McCain is too old to handle this risky world where you need a lot of judgment skill. Having military experience gives you edge in a battlefield but not as a commander in chief. He has anger management problem too. He carries everything that Bush has.
Hey America, choose McCain if you love going back to 20th century and 19 century afterwards. Good luck to you all who vow to vote for McCain. He is the past NOT future.
Posted by: Purushsharma73 | May 8, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Wow. This is a great indication of how the General Election will play out. Obama calls McCain old….McCain points out Obama’s ties to Muslim terrorists, racist pastors, negligible (and questionable) voting record, and connections to anti-Americanism. This should be interesting.
Posted by: PGHPAVOTER | May 8, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
…just like Hillary said: “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen”
Posted by: latindolphin | May 8, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
It’s time for a new party.
A labour party for America.
The democratic party has turned to be the communist party.
Go, Hillary as independent. OBAMA and his votes are dwindling after his true identity are revealed. His voters are withdrawing their support and he only has his 92% black votes and the college kids.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 8, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I don’t know why Senator McCain’s camp would be upset. The statement was only made by the spokes-horn of an inexperienced, elitist, un-American, racist, terrorist-supporting empty suit, whose wife is running for that office. And those of us who will go to the GE polling places know exactly that. Still NA, can’t change that, so don’t even go there.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Kat: he will do like Bill clinton did. surround himself with alot of high character intelligent high experienced people. Bush didnt do that he hired all of his friends. I think we forget that McCain and Barack worked together at one moment on the campaign finance reform issue. they know eachother pretty well
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
McCain is Grandpa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Old old old! There’s no other way to say that… O-L-D!
Posted by: wanj | May 8, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Realistically if you take away the black and college age voters who else is supporting Obama?
RE:
Latinos.
Independents.
Disillusioned Republicans.
Moderate Democrats.
Posted by: noemi in los angeles | May 8, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
You see it, but if you do not have the magazine and read it online, you do not know what it signifies.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
“why should we care about what Hamas or any other organization thinks?” I absolutely do not believe that I just read that…
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
John: what makes you think hillary cares about the middle class? she took a job working for wal mart board of directors then went into the governors mansion then the white house then on to the senate. she hasnt been middle class since she left for college. she said it herself she hasnt pumped her own gas in 32 years. And she said that the gas tax wasnt actually serious is was to woo the blue collar workers. she doesnt care about you she cares about herself
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
They are firing back for what?????Some thing they started>>>>Then like Hilly turned it around to make it Obamas fault.Well you can bet he isn’t talking it setting down and be nice like he was to Hilly.
Posted by: honest | May 8, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Karma,
Opponents can make derogatory comments which most uninformed Americans will believe? Senator Obama has the right to defend his character, reputation and position, if you can’t take it then advise your candidate to display more character and better judgment.
Posted by: Martin | May 8, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
McCain kept referring to Barack as Senator O’Clinton? Where’s Lieberman when you need him?
Posted by: vick11 | May 8, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Since when did someone being old really matter? In other countries being older means being wiser. I cannot believe that Obama says that it was not a smear but yet his supporters are outright saying it. How low will they go? And Clinton was the one always being accused of going negative.
I have read the blogs over these past few months and the nastiness spewed by many of Obama’s supporters is the worst I have seen. They are their own worst enemy.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
what mr mccain stated is true. hamas would be delighted if obama won.
mr obama’s comment on the other hand was an insult. same way obama tried to characterize hillary in sexist terms on many occassions. good for mr mccain for putting obama on notice.
go hillary
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 8, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
LOL, he’s lot his bearings already!
Posted by: John Kovacs | May 8, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I am with Tony, a dem not voting obama.
Posted by: justme2see | May 8, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
united states, needs a president that provide the kind of change they can believe in. and i think obaman has proved that and will lead america out of it present economic predicament and war chest atitude around the world. the republicans have tried in the last 8 yrs to destroy themselves, and sen. mccain represents that and will carry on george bush 3rd third failed administration
Posted by: peter adams | May 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I’m a Dem too, and I’m not voting for Obama because he makes too much sense. Instead, I’ll vote for McCain. I love folks who lose their bearings to be in charge of our nukes.
Posted by: John Kovacs | May 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
What a stretch. So far, McCain has fought this honestly and directly. In that silly dig he had changed direction. That’s what “losing his bearings” means. And you can do it at ANY AGE when you sway from a predetermined course. It’s not the same as “losing his marbles”.
It’s hard to know whether some of you are illiterate or just general purpose Obama haters.
Posted by: Harvey Stockwood | May 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Both. Illiterate AND republicans.
Posted by: John Kovacs | May 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Allamr18…what does pumping gas have to do with anything? My husband does most of that for both of us. I doubt that she did a lot of her own driving anyway…what’s the problem?
And how do you know what Hillary Clinton cares about? Hmmm…guess you must be an insider and even can read minds. Amazing I say….aren’t you the lucky one.
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
I wonder if Obama is going to rename the White House when he becomes President of the United States of America. He has said that he shows his patriotism without having to wear a flag pin. Maybe his campaign logo will be the flag that flies above government buildings. He is going to announce that he is the nominee on May 20 whether he has all 2025 delegates or not. He has decided that he is President and gives the impression no one can stop him…. It is a scary scenario… for sure…
Posted by: panache11 | May 8, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Such OVERLY SENSITIVE REPLY is a claer proof that McCAIN CAMPAING IS MORE WORRIED ABOU HIS AGE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
Posted by: moeen | May 8, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Do Republicans know anything EXCEPT the politics of fear?
Posted by: Harvey Stockwood | May 8, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I do not blame McCain for bringing up the comment. I mean come on…the Dems are hogging all of the press. He needs it too. Don’t be so harsh people…it is just politics.
Fun huh??? I cannot wait to see what’s coming in June…
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Moderate Democrats will no more touch the Senator Obama lever, with his limited voting record and knowledge, than we will endorse one of the few votes he attended and stated something other than present. That recorded vote that condoned killing full-term children. I believe that there should be no need for any abortion discussion in this nation, whatsoever – the cause has been known for millenia and responsible people don’t even think about abortion when performing the act, they are doing so with intent – but if you finally figure out that you have been pregnant until full-term, you could have figured out and done the “Wright” thing months before, considering you were too stupid and fell asleep in junior high. I’m not voting for Michelle.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Right on John Kovacs. President Obama should just meet with the terrorists, have a couple of beers, and casually whip them the finger so that nobody can prove it. Great international policy. The Iranians don’t even know what that means.
Posted by: PGHPAVOTER | May 8, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Obama is evil. Wait and see.
Democrats will not will the White House if Obama is running against McCain.
I refuse to vote for Obama.
Posted by: DemNoMore | May 8, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Please read the context of Obama’s remarks, people, so you can have a reasonable conversation. Obama noted that McCain had earlier pledged to run a positive campaign – free of constant attacks, caricatures, and innuendo. Barack commended this commitment as noble, but chided McCain for “losing his bearings” – that is, his moral compass – when he implied that recent statements by Hamas suggested some kind of sinister link with Obama. The point was well-taken, as McCain’s remarks represented deliberate and irrational character assassination.
The point is: Obama made no mention of age; age had nothing to do with Obama’s critique. He is saying that McCain lost his bearings with respect to his moral compass – that is, with respect to his noble commitment to run a clean and honorable campaign. Obama’s critique was right on target and totally legitimate. McCain’s ploy was clearly guilt by association, which is politics as usual.
Posted by: Dan Brink | May 8, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
“loosing your bearings” is a subtle jab at his age. How about a subtle jab at his complete lack of reality.
He can’t figure out who the enemy is. Shia, Sunni, Iraq, Iran, Al Qaeda, Al Roker, Al Bundy… I mean he doesn’t have a clue.
His version of an economic policy is “Wait’N'See” and the same pandering gas tax holiday the HRC proposed.
The “Straight Talk Express” got derailed when he spent all of 2004 singing Kumbaya with a man whose people accused him of fathering an illegitimate black baby.
Posted by: QuestionEvil | May 8, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Skyebeader…you are right…the Mod Dems will not vote for someone that the “new” Dems are forcing down their throats.
Right now Obama’s supporters are turning off votes from anyone who is a senior citizen, going on about McCain’s age. They will feel sorry for him. I would not be surprised if Obama loses the General election by a large margin.
If the Republicans can swift-boat Kerry, just think what they will do to Obama.
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 8, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
zimeeisme – I agree it does not matter. But the thing here is that the phrase meant “going off course”. McCain was the one that brought up that the phrase meant something about his age (which it does not). So, given that, is Obama wrong or McCain?
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
anti-corporate-fascism
Do you have anything else to say other than pasting the same old thing over and over??
Posted by: Love the USA | May 8, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
McCain may not be “losing his bearings” just yet, I’ll give you that, but what other job besides the President of the United States, can a 71 year old man expect to get?
Posted by: Michelle | May 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I do not believe that the comment really meant anything. But if you read what his supporters say, they are basically not practicing what he is preaching.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Lol so now its obama supporters who are doing damage? we come to the aid of our candidate after being attacked and its our fault. this is like blaming the victim. bill makes the jesse jackson comment and its obama whose race baiting. hillary calls him an elitist and hes being sexist. mccain attacks him on hamas and obama is being an agist. i mean really. he cant say alot of things but we sure can. if you dont like it stop attacking or else you will feel the wrath of obama supporters. other than that we welcome you to our side.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Dan Brink….I guess the General Election, like the Primary, will again be about Obamaniacs screaming about “context”. The Reverend Wright, Tony Ayers, Mr. Rezco, Mr. Auchi, cousin Odinga, and Mrs. Obama herself…they have already put your candidate’s comments into context. Stop.
Posted by: PGHPAVOTER | May 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
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He is Older than 8 track and VHS , what is he bitchin about ,
man o man he will get such a beatdown come november its not even going be funny.
2 republicans already lost their seats.one from barack own homestate.
And he can thank george Bush for that .
Barack just have to keep running him flip flopping over the many years on a whole host of issues and the clincher , the visual embrace and support from bush in his ADS.
And it will be game set match.
4 MORE YEARS OF GEORGE BUSH . more recession , lost jobs , a broken healthcare system and many people without healthcare coverage; continue fail schools and we can go on.
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Posted by: moses k | May 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
I am not a Republican, but I do believe that with age comes wisdom. McCain is not afraid to disagree with those from his own party. He has experience and that does say something no matter is you agree with his views or not. I have followed him for some time and do agree with how he sees many things.
I am 37 and cannot imagine how much more wisdom I will gain in the next 30 years. I say there is nothing wrong with having a President that old.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
“Right now Obama’s supporters are turning off votes from anyone who is a senior citizen, going on about McCain’s age.” Trust me, many of us lifelong Democrats who will not vote for Obama are legally qualified senior citizens, and we are not nearly as old as he is ;-0
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
PGH: MM Rev Wright scares the heck out of you that people dont say all the greatest things about america huh? bill ayers not tony ayers, and bill ayers has nothing to do with him. they served on a board for a month. 40 years after bill ayers did that stuff. he was like 20 something when that happen. tony rezco is about to be acquitted they havent found anything wrong. cousin odinga? are you serious. are you responsible for a non family member. his wife? thats some pretty classless stuff right there. saying shes proud to see her husband do well on such a large stand is admirable. if my son or daughter was voted in masse to be the president id say the same thing. step your game up kid
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
McCain’s people have Obama pegged exactly. Obama has been pulling these tactics the entire time.
I am one person who will never vote for Obama. If anything, I’ll vote for McCain just so I can vote for Hillary again in 2012!!!
Posted by: Ryan | May 8, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
He’s not over the hill, he’s over the mountain. The presidential job is a very
stressful job he could get a heart attack
in the White House. We need a young, strong, president like Obama.
Posted by: Frank | May 8, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I believe that Ayers and Obama served on the same board for 3 years from what I have read.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
How about the actual quote, in which Obama clarifies that he was talking about in the context of the compaign–which I think significantly illuminates where he’s coming from and makes the charge he is dinging McCain for his age absurd–even though so many on this board will never admit it. It’s the McCain campaign that is blowing it out of proportion, and the mindless followers who don’t even bother to read and think for themselves who scream the lies:
“This is offensive, and I think it’s disappointing, because John McCain always says, ‘Well, I’m not going to run that kind of politics,’” Obama said. “And then to engage in that kind of smear, I think, is unfortunate, particularly since my policy toward Hamas has been no different than his.”
The Illinois senator added: “For him to toss out comments like that, I think, is an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. We don’t need name-calling in this debate.”
Like McCain, Obama criticized former President Carter for recently meeting with Hamas leaders, saying the U.S. must not negotiate with a terrorist group that is intent on Israel’s destruction.
Posted by: Deb | May 8, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Martin —
Frankly, I don’t believe any advice from me, to Sen Clinton will affect the outcome at this point. Senator Obama has the right to defend his character, reputation and position, and I don’t see what that has to do with using terms like “losing his bearings” which is a subtle way of saying a person is not quite oriented to his surroundings, which is a common way of describing the behavior of older persons who have a degree of dementia. It is so disingenuous for some people here to say his choice of words has no relation to age. In this context, the way Obama used it, that is the way it comes off to me, and apparently to others familiar with the common usage of that for older persons. McCain is not my candidate, not yet. I just don’t want to see Obama trying to take advantage of the fact McCain has a few years on him, when McCain politically is unable to refer to the fact that Obama has been steeped in an environment of black racism mixed with corrupt Chicago politics for the past 20 years, and as a result his viewpoints on Americans are skewed and slightly warped.
Posted by: Karma | May 8, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Ryan – It’s over, you don’t have to post “If I can’t vote for Hillary then I’ll vote for McCain” any more.
There is no way a Democrat or anyone that supports Hillary can convert from Hillary’s ideas to McCain’s. They are incompatable.
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Obama’s supporters think that Fox was hard on Obama before, just wait…they haven’t seen anything yet.
I need to get stocked up on popcorn…this will be quite a show in the next few months.
It is going to get ROUGH for both of them!
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
So all you Democrats who don’t support Obama whould rather see McCain in power?
4 more(maybe 8)years of the same old Republican tactics? Shame on you all!
Obama is the only candidate that truly right for the job, who wants to put America back on the right track. As for the comment that “losing one bearings” has ANYTHING to do with age discrimination is ABSURD. And if you believe it, I truly pity you.
Posted by: Bob Sanders | May 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Everyone has to admit the guy is OLD. So, if you were having brain surgery; or open heart surgery; or were a passenger in a cross-continental flight — would you want a surgeon/pilot who is going to be in his 70′s? Or a surgeon/pilot in his 40′s? C’mon folks, McCain’s past his prime. Don’t leave this guy with the responsibility and stress of leading this country. In any other profession, he would have retired. Few pilots, surgeons, CEOs push it this far.
Posted by: Bill in Raleigh | May 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
laughing at the dems – I agree that McCain only said it because the stupid media would take the bait. Well ABC is the only one that took the bait.
So, is this about ABC? Yeah they are that stupid.
I used to have respect for Charley and George before the “debate”.
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
McCain just showed how desperately insecure he is. He won’t be able to hold his rage fits in check until Nov! Get the popcorn!
Posted by: John Kovacs | May 8, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
It was a horrible statement from McCain – he did lose his bearings, from his oft-proclaimed moral code of campaign conduct. You do not have to be old to be stupid and mentally out-of-control. Just another wacky if not wacko assertion, worse than anything Hillary has said to date. Not the first, not the last from the only Senator who votes against bills he sponsors.
Interesting though that his campaign brought up his age, not Obama. If that is going to be their defense for any and all valid criticisms, he has no chance to win. Gingrich pegged his own party perfectly. You will not hear this crap from Obama.
Posted by: haybarn | May 8, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I beg to differ Sanity about Hillary supporters not voting for McCain. Many of them are moderates anyway. Abortion is not really a big issue in my point of view…so we leave it up to the states…no biggie. Maybe people will start thinking ahead first and stock up on the morning after pill. Guns…not a big deal either.
I think most of us are just looking for the economy to improve. This will take time and I believe that whomever is elected will straighten that out in their own way. It is a cyclic things anyway…we had all of this coming with our buy now pay later attitudes.
Make no mistake, McCain is no Bush and voters who really look at the issues and do some research will see that.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
“… you DON’T deal with the truth, because if you did you wouldn’t have a case to bring.”
“Hmmm. Could it be a little of that white folk thinking going in?”
I believe in his statements of no more being able to disown the Reverend than the black community or his white grandmother. Then, throwing all three under the bus. Not disowning Hamas is a little bit of a problem for me, with two sons fighting terrorists, as well.
And, BTW, I am NA. Just a comment from an “outsider” (there needs to be HUGE apologies and reparations for that, immediately) looking in. You’d have to grow one to understand.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Methinks McCain supporters doth protest too much.
Posted by: David | May 8, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Did you all see the clip of McCain carrying pizza boxes? McCain looked like a Wal-Mart greeter, for goodness sake. The guy practically needed a walker. No way I want to trust him and his aging mind to run this country. Bearings shmearings — the goat is old.
Posted by: Sharon in Boston | May 8, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
No President has ever sat down with the enemy??? Ever hear of the USSR or China? We had Republican Presidents who sat down with both of them when they were considered the enemy. As a result, they eventually were no longer the enemy.
Posted by: Javalation | May 8, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Everybody is missing the point with the term “losing his bearings.” I wish that Obama was referring to McCain’s age, but unfortunately he was referring to the bearings on the wheels of his STRAIGHT TALK express.
Posted by: Ron | May 8, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
So, one guy insulted another and then he returned the favor? Yup, that about sums it up.
Posted by: Sandra | May 8, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Would one be able to wake up McCain at 3am?
Posted by: runnerin1 | May 8, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Mariann Pepitone – you need to read more. There are dozens of posts that tell the truth that “losing your bearings” means to go off course (a navigational phrase)and nothing more. Read before you post something that makes you look like a fool.
And the question is…should Navy man McCain known better than to make such an obvious mistake?
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
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John Mc_bush will be in big trouble when its time to debate , i can picture him straping joe lierberman in a baby carrier on his body and taking him on stage to help bail him out on the tough questions.
This man is not educated enough to run for any office much less the Whitehouse, his marks at the naval college was a JOKE.
he is truly getting a free pass because of his service in the army .But the Whitehouse IS NOT a ARMY outpost.. the likes of a colin powell and wesley clarke to name a few is 100 times more qualify than him.
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Posted by: andrew48 | May 8, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
I’m so sick of the blatant hypocrisy from the republicans. When Ron Paul said that they attacked us because of our presence in the middle east, the republicans said he was listening to terrorists propaganda…but when terrorists like Hamas say something they can use, they quote them and expect us to care or believe anything Hamas says. You can’t have it both ways.
Posted by: Paul | May 8, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
McCain is a direct clone of the DORK presently in the White HOuse..A vote for McBomb is a vote to continue and expand the war in Iraq.
Posted by: Pat M | May 8, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Runner that WAS funny. I do not support attacking McCains age but I have to say that made me laugh.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
I don’t’ think what Obama said is anywhere near as offensive as what McCain said (FIRST–saying Hamas wanted Obama to be President). Now THAT WAS OUTRAGEOUS, UNNECESSARY AND JUST PLAIN MEAN!! At least Obama knows the difference between the Sunni and the Shia!!
Posted by: J.L. | May 8, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Is McCain or is he not over 70 years of age? And he freaks about about the truth of his age? We do not need another liar in the White House, after 8 years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton.
Posted by: Frank | May 8, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Obama said McCain losing his bearing, because he lose his gun. Ha…ha…ha…
Posted by: Kevin P | May 8, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
I was a Republican once. Then Bush screwed the country up more than any other president. Now McCain wants to follow a similar path. The Republican smear machine is a powerful weapon, but I’m not falling for it anymore. Go Obama!
Posted by: Michael | May 8, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
McCain is no Bush. Get yourself educated people on the difference. Look into McCain’s history…geez…
Posted by: kim | May 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
“There is no way a Democrat or anyone that supports Hillary can convert from Hillary’s ideas to McCain’s. They are incompatable.”
Having voted Democrat, about 90% of the time, in over 4 decades of elections and supporting Senator Clinton over Senator Obama, I can guarantee you that I will vote for Senator McCain. You might want to rethink that bogus bit of typing you just did. How did it feel to vote for the first time, last go-around? When you get a track record like I have in the polling booth, you will look back and understand that often times there are clear choices, not sheeple levers… Age and military expertise against no experience and dodging, a true no-brainer.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Well I kind understand Brian’s comment…it was made out of anger, though still not justifiable.
They are all childish anyway…lets just say she started it :-)
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 8, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Obama will lose, We are in a battle with those who will hurt us.
Sept 11th was real, and a terrorist apologist is the last thing we need.
he (Obama) lie’s , he lies about his stand on the second amendment , Yes the second amendment it does matter to a lot of us, he believes those of us who have worked hard and have fallen down need our beliefs as crutches and he’s wrong.
More of his true feelings will be shown as time goes on.
and these cheap shots will not work in his favor.
Thou many of you will disagree with me, know this there are allot out there who agree we me.
We may not be as vocal as Obama supporters but we know how to vote to protect our interests.
Posted by: joeb | May 8, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
zimeeisme – McCain want to give Iraq as much time as they need to figure it out, Hillary does not. McCain wants the market to fix health care, Hillary does not. McCain wants to extend the tax cuts, Hillary does not. McCain shifts very right Hillary does not. McCain supports choice so no argument there.
No, it is impossible for any Hillary supporter to think like McCain.
I do agree with the fact that we have borrowed ourselves into very near economic collapse (read American Theocracy). But the big problem is that the Iraq war is bought on credit (40% of that funded by China) which has lead to a falling dollar (thus $4.00 gasoline), and a credit crunch. The Republican irresponsibility and ideology with money has lead to the economic problems not the business cycle (read The Price of Loyalty by Bush’s first treasury secretary).
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
The expression is LOSING ONE’s MORAL COMPASS.
Making up stuff about the opponent indicates McCain has lost his moral compass. That’s what it means to lose his bearings.
The age thing is a fantasy. He is not losing his short term memory even though he has a reputation as not being a detail man in the Senate, and no, he doesnt have alzheimer’s YET.
Posted by: bruce becker | May 8, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Skyebeader..I totally understand where you are coming from.
I honestly do not know what Obama can do or say at this point to bring back the Dems who feel as you do.
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
The Bush screwed up the country alot, and even I am a Democrat, I will vote for Hillary, if not I will vote for McCain. The Republican smear machine is wrong some time, but it good for the country, it will not sell the country for cheap like the hatred of Obama people.
Posted by: Kevin P | May 8, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
McCain lost his bearings AND his moral compass when he approved waterboarding of prisoners.
The rest is easy for him now. Just make up stuff about the opponent and hope that some of it sticks.
Posted by: bruce becker | May 8, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Having voted Democrat, about 90% of the time, in over 4 decades of elections and supporting Senator Clinton over Senator Obama, I can guarantee you that I will vote for Senator McCain…..
And, sadly, it is this sort of closed-mindedness that put Bush in office. Rather than vote for the platform or the party, folks like this will abandon the hope of the democratic party for all the wrong reasons and justify it all the way to the voting booth.
Sorry, but I prefer the promise of a better day than life under a man who endorses continuation of a failed war, supports torture, has a fiery and apparently aggressive temper, and who flipflops all over the deck like a fish just pulled out of the water.
But feel good about yourself, especially when life gets a heck of a lot worse (if McCain wins) because you couldn’t trust the party and all those who see the hope in Obama.
Think of yourself and have a pleasant evening.
Posted by: Kitty | May 8, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Ryan – It’s over, you don’t have to post “If I can’t vote for Hillary then I’ll vote for McCain” any more.
There is no way a Democrat or anyone that supports Hillary can convert from Hillary’s ideas to McCain’s. They are incompatable.
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008 10:26:11 PM
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Dont worry most of these silly post saying they will vote for mccain beacuse hillary didn’t get it are BY REPUBLICANS.
Lets face it if you are voting for Mccain you were never a Democrat in the first place; And if issues didn’t matter.. then why they get involve in the election process this year.
Obama said it no one person is bigger than the party , Obama is ahead on all fronts and cant be caught, and did it fair and square playing by the DNC rules.despite the goal post being move it seems everyday by the Clintons.
Posted by: anne35 | May 8, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Some posters here evidently believe that Hamas did NOT endorse Obama. Reality check: Hamas’ leader Admed Yousef did indeed endorse him by saying they hoped it would become President, & they believe he is like JFK, etc, etc (I’m paraphrasing here, as I only saw the news video once, of Yousef stating those things.)
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So McCain was not lying. Look it up yourself. It was fair for McCain to bring it up, since the Obama camp had the chance to reject the Hamas endorsement. Instead, they said they were flattered. Perhaps later they revised this response, but this was their initial one. These are the sorry facts in this case.
Posted by: Kat | May 8, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
i once read a study that said people that talk on their cell phones while driving have the reaction time of a drunk driver or a 71 year old man. very interesting…
hey when social security gets brought up u think mccain will be bias since he is getting a check?
Posted by: Amabo | May 8, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
I think it is unfair to say that McCain will follow the same path as Bush. Some of what McCain has been doing is just to win over the Republican base. In politics, that is perfectly fair.
Besides…I never said that I agreed with Hillary on Iraq. I think something in between is more appropriate than to pull out troops so quickly. As far as tax cuts, McCain has a point about it stimulating the economy, at least from the perspective from small businesses. I do agree with him about no Internet sales tax…got to give him credit for that one.
I have been a Dem forever, and have been questioning if the party speaks for me anymore. With them fighting in Indiana about photo ID’s to vote in the hopes that illegals will be able to cast a vote, angers me. I think the Dems pander to hispanics and other demographics.
I have no problem not voting for Obama, the question is what should I do on election day?
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
We old white ladies will be going elsewhere to vote.
Posted by: Florida voter | May 8, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
If you’re in unfamiliar surroundings, you might say “As soon as I get my bearings, I’ll be on my way.”
I’ve never heard “bearings” equated with age. Ridiculous.
Posted by: Aaron | May 8, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Brian – Yes I went to public school, went to college as a history major, graduated, did post graduate work, worked my way up the company ladder, went off on my own, now own my own company with 22 employees, and am a millionaire. And I’m a Democrat because I think on my own. Huffington is better than Rush (wasn’t she a Republican that started thinnking on her own too. Who knew!
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
“he is truly getting a free pass because of his service in the army .But the Whitehouse IS NOT a ARMY outpost..”
Thought I was going to bust a gut!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Heres my take on this article, a lot of people are hurt. I can understand, a lot of people are scared of what they don’t know. Some are “bitter”(Lol) that Obama is going to win and they’re respective candidate isn’t. Well, life isn’t fair. But I’d hope so many of you would show yourself to be intelligent human beings and not get in the gutter. But as I’ve seen, most supporters take on the mentality of those they support. As far as the ageism, those arguments make me sick, there is none. People are just trying to find little BS to make him look bad because through issues and personality they can’t. As far as the HRC supporters saying they’ll go to McCain, I’ve got 2 points. 1st, if you really would do that, then you are not supporting HRC for her policies. You’re supporting her because she is a woman, or because she Billy’s wife. I say this because she and Obama are 95% the same on issues. So if you will cut off your nose 2 spite your face…..So be it. It’s YOUR face. If through vindictiveness you vote against your interests you will have done more to prove you are mostly “Uneducated voters” more than any pundit or candidate ever could…..
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
The McCain campaign is apparently taking up the age banner like the Obama campaign has race. It’s going to be such a long election year.
Posted by: katrina | May 8, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
the more I hear John McCain, the more I learn about John McCain, the more I realize that he and his campaign are just not up to being President. These kinds of responses tell me that the wheels are coming off the straight talk express.
Posted by: Jerry | May 8, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
McCain just looks more off his bearings by arguing this is an age thing… I’m off my bearings all the time…
He looks childish and dumb by commenting on this.
Obama is the guy who screws up his words remember…who makes gaffs with his speech…I don’t think now he is that picky to know politically he should choose bearings as an age reminder…lol
What it makes me think is the ladies campaign staff doth protest too much.
Posted by: dl | May 8, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Just another smoke screen to get everybody off the real issues, the war,high gas prices and so on and the american people fell for it again. He like Clinton is after the I feel sorry for you vote.
Posted by: jg5012 | May 8, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
You guys are out there and discuss about who is honest, and who is a liar. Why don’t you ask yourself if either you are a liar or a foolish man. Obama, Hillary, McCain are all liars, they are only honest to you if you like to hear thier lies
Posted by: Kevin P | May 8, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Heres my take on this article, a lot of people are hurt. I can understand, a lot of people are scared of what they don’t know. Some are “bitter”(Lol) that Obama is going to win and they’re respective candidate isn’t. Well, life isn’t fair. But I’d hope so many of you would show yourself to be intelligent human beings and not get in the gutter. But as I’ve seen, most supporters take on the mentality of those they support. As far as the ageism, those arguments make me sick, there is none. People are just trying to find little BS to make him look bad because through issues and personality they can’t. As far as the HRC supporters saying they’ll go to McCain, I’ve got 2 points. 1st, if you really would do that, then you are not supporting HRC for her policies. You’re supporting her because she is a woman, or because she Billy’s wife. I say this because she and Obama are 95% the same on issues. So if you will cut off your nose 2 spite your face…..So be it. It’s YOUR face. If through vindictiveness you vote against your interests you will have done more to prove you are mostly “Uneducated voters” more than any pundit or candidate ever could…..
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Dog whistle talk by Obama.
Posted by: Tammy | May 8, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Ask anybody who serves or has served in the Navy what it means to “lose your bearings.”
Posted by: Aaron | May 8, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
What is this BS? Hillary is finished. Please stick to the problem ahead. Actually either one of McCain or Obama is fine, but I’m for Obama.
He’s age is a problem to degree that is going to impact his job as president. If you think it has no bearing (no offense intended) on his abilities then no problem (for you).
Posted by: fooled_once | May 8, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
if McCain gets president he will fix health care benefits for the elderly, make sure social security is well protected, drop prescription drug prices and make the roads wider with wider brighter painted lines, the Cracker Barrel restaurant will be 24/7 like a super center walmart, and the big red phone in the oval office will be replaced with a Jitterbug Cell phone so he will be able to hear on it!
Posted by: Amabo | May 8, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
The saddest part is this started out on ageism, and of course some fools always gotta make something racial….
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
McCain with one foot in the nursing home and one in the grave, that’s the guy that’s going to win the white house?
are we beign punked’?
Posted by: Paul | May 8, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Thanks, zimmie. I have never been a “party trumps person” voter. The vast majority of the time, however, the person who I most believe in has been in my party. Not this time, if it is Senator Obama. It’s integrity, it’s experience, and this time it is so painful to look at those from whom one will be our President. Especially when I have brave men whose lives ride on my vote.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 8, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
The comments on this post are pathetic. None of you have any respect for the three people running for President. They’re not perfect but they are doing something that not one of you (or me) commenting here could do in a million years.
Obama did not attack McCain’s age. McCain did engage in a low-ball attack on this Hamas issue. Let it go.
McCain is ready to be President, I don’t think his age is, or should be an issue, unless someone has some concrete evidence that it’s a problem. If not, then everyone should shutup about it. McCain should have had a shot at the Presidency in 2000, but he was cut out due to negative attacks.
Hillary supporters should be pissed at Hillary, she ran a bad campaign at the wrong time. She should have had her shot, this just wasn’t it. For you Dems, Obama is gonna be the nominee, you might as well support him. Because if you were voting for Hillary because of her Democratic positions, then voting for McCain out of spite is just stupid. A vote like that doesn’t punish Obama it punishes you.
Posted by: News | May 8, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
zimeeisme – I don’t think that the tax cuts have ever worked. They have just driven up the deficit and down the middle class. I think that the best thing for small business would be to make health care a single payor plan like Hillary advocated in the first place. OK before everyone jumps on me about Socialized medicine, think about this. How many smart people in a big corporation want to go out on their own and start a small business and can’t because they can’t afford health care premiums, or their kid has a health condition that makes them uninsurable, how many factory jobs are sent overseas because American companies don’t have to pay for health care over there. How many people would retire early (thus making room for someone else in the workforce)because they can’t afford or get health care coverage. How many people go into an interview and are rejected only because they look overwieght over 50 or otherwise “unhealthy”.
We need tax cuts to pay off the debt, and an single payor health care system to make large and small business compete (now if you think that I’m looking out for myself, I own an insurance agency and would be hurt on income to have a single payor plan, but I know that my clients would prosper and thus me).
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Wow, seems like these two good men are making mountains out of mole hills. Why are the reactions of these two turning so visceral?
Posted by: Richard | May 8, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
The funniest part of this entire discussion is that people are throwing around the term, “ageism.” That’s just sweet, you ageists (or is it “agists?”)
Posted by: Brian | May 8, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Oh God! all these illiterates that dragged Clinton to mud have started surrounding McBush again. What has “bearing” gat to do with age?.
The first thing the next President need to do is to make it compulsery that all Americans at least attain high school level.
When you say someone has lost bearing, it simply means lost focus. Anyways, McBush campaign manager is indirectly signaling what they thot could be McBush’s problems.
You people shouldn’t worry in whatever way you people present McBush he mush loose the elections.
Posted by: Cole | May 8, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Hey Roy, not much else to talk about huh?? I notice you haven’t named any of the right wing hackjobs supporting McCain…..Some people shouldn’t be able to procreate…..
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Apparently not too many people know “losing one’s bearing” is navigational in nature. Just think of the analogy of a ship lost at sea is a ship that has lost it’s bearings. If you want to refer to one’s age Obama should have used something like “losing his marbles”.
Posted by: hcl2 | May 8, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Oracle,
I think you are correct in your analysis of those ‘Democrats’ who will fly to McCain if Hillary Clinton doesn’t become the nominee. These folks are true Democrats, no matter what their voting records say. And this bit about justifying the betrayal of the party because Obama doesn’t have ‘experience’ is hog-wash: no one has the experience needed to be president before they become one. I like the cool, collected way in which Obama has run his campaign, and I admire his struggle to stay above politics as usual–even if he has not always managed to stay elevated, I think he has at least tried.
So those ‘Democrats’ who abandon the party for McCain, for more war, for more debt, for more business as usual in Washingotn, for more international stalemate, more more more of the Bush doctine, for shame.
Posted by: Deb | May 8, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
This election is for the country, it is not only for the Democrat or the Republican, so if you can not vote for Hillary, you can vote for McCain if you like. You don’t have to stick with the Democrat then you stick with Obama if he win the nominee. Open your mind, so you don’t see other people as “uneducated voters”
Posted by: Kevin P | May 8, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I agree Deb, the funny thing is as news said. These people will be ultimately hurting themselves….
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
It’s a phenomenon that McCain thinks it’s ok to accuse a presidential candidate of being “friendly” with Hamas while not accepting “descriptive english” from his opponent. That’s a pretty desperate jab for a straight talker. Fact: McCain is 71 years old. Why dispute that? Here’s more descriptive english McCain style: It is a fact that the Bush family is associated with the Bin Laden family. Both Bush presidents have endorsed McCain and McCain has accepted with open arms. Does that not make McCain associated with terrorists?
Posted by: Matt | May 8, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Brian – It was a university, and no, if you noticed on your GED test colleges are not listed. But congrats to you for passing the GED. But do your family and friends now think you are elitest too?
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
experience got us fighting 2 wars experience got us high gas prices
experience got us 4000 dead men and women. We don’t need no more experience.
Posted by: jg5012 | May 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Kevin, the pundits and HRC call them “uneducated voters”, and you’re right you have the right to vote for who ever you want. But my point still stands, if you break from 1 Dem to go repub, you weren’t supporting them for their policies anyway….
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Obama is using the same dirty style of attacks that he used on Hillary and the followers are still drinking the koolaide!!
When you buy into Obama’s game – he wins and you loose. When you finally wake up you will see that you have been bold faced lied to. Let me tell you ahead of time “I told you so”!
Posted by: Juli An | May 8, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Lol. Juli…….I think someone’s feelings are hurt……
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Grappy Hothead McCain, time for you to go to the nursing home–not the White House.
Posted by: me | May 8, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Does anyone know what McCain’s health care policy is? Does he care that many can’t afford cost-effective preventive care, while (for example) medical equipment providers overcharge Medicare routinely? Example: Elderly, bed-ridden woman requires special air/spongy type mattress at home. Medical equipment company bills Medicare $800+/month. Medicare rules will not allow the patient to purchase the bed outright, she has to rent it. Medicare pays many times the actual value of the bed, with only a few months rental. Even a few months worth of Medicare payout would pay for many preventive exams & treatment for many would-be well patients. Current system for health care payment & delivery is so often garbage. Meanwhile, patients who cannot afford insurance or preventive care cost the system many thousands of dollars when they have to be treated in hospital for neglected conditions.
Posted by: Unexamined | May 8, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Muahahahahahahhahahahaha!!!! That was funny……
Posted by: The Oracle | May 8, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Obama, you know what? You’re superficial, obvious, not-clever, and RUDE.
And you screwed up your facts about Truman and Roosevelt. And you lied about Wright and many other thing.
Which makes you a stupid liar.
Posted by: Suzanne | May 8, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Also experience dropped the ball in getting help to the people of New Orleans.
Posted by: jg5012 | May 8, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
This is the kindest response Obama could have given considering that McCain insinuated that Obama is cozy with Hamas. The equally nasty response would have been to call McCain a “deceitful panderer to the fears of some Americans. The take-no-prisoners response would have been to say that “McCain misuses his military service to wrap himself in the American flag and swiftboat a fellow American”
Obama shows great constraint in not saying things like this.
Posted by: Young Atheart | May 8, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Obama’s lame attacks on McCain are just a sign of what’s to come. Its downright amazing that an unknown person, with only 143 days in the Senate, can fool so many Americans.
Clinton supporters, who’ve been taken for granted by democratic party and superdelegates — will NOT vote for Obama in the general election. our vote will go to McCain.
Posted by: paul | May 8, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
tomdavie they are !!!
Posted by: jg5012 | May 8, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Not an age reference, at all. I mean, my goodness, Ronald Reagan started losing his bearings LONG before his 70th birthday!!
Posted by: Jack Block | May 8, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
the issues means nothing to them.
Posted by: jg5012 | May 8, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Over 250 million people in the US and these are the best characters we can come up with! What a Country!
Posted by: mike Guilmette | May 8, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Over 250 million people in the US and these are the best characters we can come up with! What a Country!
Posted by: mike Guilmette | May 8, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
One reason so many Democrats feel Ok with Sen Clinton, but not so Ok with Obama is because of experience. Not hers alone, but hers combined with Bill’s experience. For the same reason, they might go with McCain over Obama if McCain would ramp up his campaign & offer more ideas for the economy, health care & ending the war. But it’s a balancing act for him to do that, since he’s not so popular with the ultra conservatives in his party. What to do, what to do? Take on a (much younger) ultra conservative running mate to please that faction? Take on a much younger, middle of the road Republican, to win some of the disillusioned middle of the road Democrats? It’s going to be interesting and fateful, whichever he decides. Meanwhile, if Obama should pick Clinton, that could be a mistake, since she won’t help him against McCain much. Who does Obama need to help balance his flaws? Anybody have any ideas?
Posted by: No Clue | May 8, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Brian: would you care to debate his platform then? Id love to have this conversation. are you endorsing John mccain? is so we can discuss his as well
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
So what is everyone worried about age for. He has anther 25 years left…LOL
Posted by: zimeeisme | May 8, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
HILLARY RESEMBLES AND REMINDS ME OF CHUCKY. THE MINUTE YOU THINK SHE’S DEAD, THAT UGLY FACE OF HERS POPS RIGHT BACK UP.
Posted by: jbate | May 8, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
When someone talks about someone “losing their bearings”, I don’t necessarily think age so I think
the McCain camp is making something out of nothing. Having said that, I have no doubt that we are going to be hearing the phrase “distract and attack”
coming out of the Obama camp non-stop and I, for one, am already sick of hearing the phrase.
Posted by: alpaig | May 8, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Obama has no platform or experience, so what else does he have to say?
Posted by: Neo Politicus | May 8, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Mccain is more honorable than Obama Obama has decieved his way to the nomination lead he will just have to relinquish it before the convention period
Posted by: staniam | May 8, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Kitty
Obama has major faults and we will not put him in the WH!
Posted by: staniam | May 8, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Jbate
Hillary doesnt care about money she cares about the country Obama will go down before the convention guaranteed
Posted by: staniam | May 8, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
If McCain thought that was a reference to his age, maybe he really is losing it; if not his bearings, then maybe his marbles.
Posted by: jbate | May 8, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
I guess it must be near midnight, since the lunatics are out baying again.
I’ll take a Democrat with major faults any day over a Republican like McCain–but then I don’t have to, because Hillary isn’t going to get the nomination. Instead, we have Obama, and I’m mighty happy we do.
Posted by: Kitty | May 8, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Staniam: what are his major faults again? just so we all know what his faults are? and please dont play this guilt by association because its lame.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 8, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
To all the Obama supporters(myself included): I guess we, as well as Obama, are the hateful divisive ones in this country even tho we support positive change and unity in this country, but somehow we’re the bad ones in this campaign. Go figure. I guess that same mentality applies blaming Obama for both Hill’s and McCain’s misspeaks in the press. I support Obama 100% and you guys obviously can’t stand the fact that Obama and his campaign were strategic and outsmarted Hillary. They were smart enough to include all 50 states in thier pre-campaign agenda, unlike Hillary, who was so arrogant to believe she would win hands down by Feb 5. Tsk Tsk…maybe you will see the light one day. To blame the Obama supporters going against the elderly population for your reasoning for not voting for Obama and tearing this country apart is absurd. Obama haters implied that and now all of sudden it’s our fault?
Posted by: mandm | May 8, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Oh good grief, can no one comprehend spoken English unless it’s dummied down to third grade level and words of one syllable? To “lose your bearings” is to stray from your path, or your calling, or direction…or it means you turned left instead of right and now you’re lost. Take your pick. But it has NOTHING to do with age. I’m astounded at how many people will distort anything Obama says and spin it into something else, completely malicious and completely false, but they’ve convinced themselves that their assumptions, suppositions, and wild-eyed imaginations are the gospel truth.
I think we’re going so far ’round the bend that it almost doesn’t matter who gets elected because even a saint could not rescue us from all this hate, prejudice, and yes, bitterness.
Posted by: windrider | May 8, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Bill Clinton in the whitehouse with nothing to do is a scary scary thought….
Obama will pull us from iraq then we will get another attack and everyone will blame him even tho it is not his fault. if Hillary is the vice then she will become the pres, some redneck with 3 brain cells will take her out because she is a woman and then we have the speaker of the house in the oval office…scary scary scary
Posted by: bob | May 8, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Kitty
ah so you admit that Obama has major faults!
Posted by: staniam | May 8, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Isn’t America tired of having leaders with such a weak grasp of the English language? McCain is lost because he has allowed his ship to stray off-course. He has not held to his stated values with integrity.
BUT THANKS, McCain campaign, for bringing attention to an important issue. Reagan faded before our very eyes while in office. In these dangerous times, do we want that to happen again? This isn’t simply due to the fact of his age – it’s due to the fact that McCain has actually demonstrated some problems with memory and focus. That would be an issue even if he were 45.
Posted by: kta | May 8, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
allmr18
The wright,ayers,the maxrixt logo on the Obama signs,arrogance of his supporters -you need clinton supporters to win and you will not get themyou figure you can have eeverything you want since you haver always gotten it this way not this time
Posted by: staniam | May 8, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Staniam,
I said I would vote for a Democrat with flaws rather than a Republican like McCain, but I WON’T have to, because Hillary isn’t going to get the nomination.
So, in simple terms, what I said was Hillary is the democratic candidate with flaws.
That means the Democratic candidate who is going to get the nomination doesn’t have them (well, strictily speaking ALL people have some because none of us are perfect, but not big, serious, game-changing flaws).
Hope you get help with that remedial reading problem real soon.
Posted by: Kitty | May 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Deb
you are a little naive its not over yet if you think it is we will see by the end of the primaries Obama cannot win in the presidential slot period
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
HILLARY RESEMBLES AND REMINDS ME OF CHUCKY. THE MINUTE YOU THINK SHE’S DEAD, THAT UGLY FACE OF HERS POPS RIGHT BACK UP.
Posted by: jbate | May 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
How McCain’s people took Obama’s comments and construed them as a crafted tactic to bring age into the campaign is truly amazing. So let’s keep the record straight: It was the McCain camp that used the term AGE not Obama. Like someone has already said, McCains people are paraniod about his age and see it as a potential problem.
Posted by: Kevin | May 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Kitty
Obama cannot get the nomination either before the convention so you best back down and stand down or go away because I will not tolerate it… the media is wrong you can be confident all you want its not going to happen
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
jeffrey
we all know that Obama uses the same tactics on Hillary and its irreparably divisive
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Jbate
what do you care about Roe V Wade you probably werent born yet when that took place no court will overturn it they might threaten
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Staniam,
I’m going to assume that you are just one of those folks who jump into the conversation to stir the pot with inanity, since most of what you have posted here tonight is nothing but hate and fear mongering and innuendo, with not of substance and little to remember.
I suspect the Republicans are more than a little worried about Obama as the likely opponent, and so have to start hitting early and low as a defense mechanism. I certainly hope the Republican candidate doesn’t sink to that level, but then, based on the substance of the news article in this thread, he already has.
I agree with Kevin: the McCain people have to be worried about McCain’s age, especially since he has been making a lot of silly goofs lately–and he hasn’t even been campaigning hard, since he’s not running against anyone yet. Can you imagine what will happen once he has to actually live the life of a road warrior, as Obama and Clinton have been doing?
The campaign knows they have to make sure they warn everyone away from making any sort of association with McCain’s gaffes and age, because to allow that to begin this early will surely spell disaster for the McCain campaign. Ditto on his temper problem….
Posted by: Deb | May 9, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
allamr18
it depends on the percentages and the superdelegates the process is not over after the last convention get your facts straight and get ready to be taken down at the convention because it will happen and you will accept his not being the nominee!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Deb
Im not jumping in on the conversation to stir things up Obama has just attacked Hillary unfairly and now Mccain and you better believe that Obama wil not be nominated IM not republican I have a DNC card but thats the way it will be!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
To all concerned:
Please give blessings to this presidenial campaign and bring enlightenment to all who forsake it. I have the utmost confidence that all this will be settled and our nation will be as one. The souls of our dearly departed calls out for what is right and just. They died for our freedom, please less not dishonor them with all this fighting and discontent. GOD BLESS us ALL and GOD BLESS our nation. Thank you.
Posted by: Chauncey | May 9, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
“you best back down and stand down or go away because I will not tolerate it…”
Is that a threat?
Posted by: Kitty | May 9, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Jabate
that proves you are a fruitcake because you are a laawyer in cali
Posted by: jbate | May 9, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Thats funny you said that considering ron paul said he had the better foreign policy of the three left. and that most liberal thing comes from one year and the fact that when bills are designed and drafted they are made to be polarizing. to appear democrat or republican. take abortion. bills are drafted to protect the child and give it healthcare but they dont consider the mother.
Affirmitive action is virtually non existent. Its not many blacks currently that benefit from it. Immigration all three of them had the same views on it.
Taxes- he said he wouldnt raise the capital gains tax to more than 28 percent.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Staniam: It’s not arrogance at all. Obama has inspired us and we are very happy. A lot of us started out liking Hillary or even maybe neutral. When she started to lose her lead, she turned very nasty and started incorporating right wing smears against her fellow democrat. The same smears that Bill was put thru. People, including myself we totally disappointed with her and turned away from the mudslinging. But this is all Hillary knows how to do, she is old-school politics. Noone expects Obama to be a miracle worker, but he at leasts gives us hope that maybe…finally we can get a president that could unite this country again and get rid of all this old-school garbage in our govt. If he gets the nomination, please don’t put our country in jeopardy for another 4 yrs with McCain. It’s not worth it. I give credit for Hillary being such a fighter and giving her supporters what they want, but it’s gone overboard with the hostily coming from her camp and it’s dividing this party up. It has to stop.
Posted by: mandm | May 9, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Many, many, many years ago when Ted Kennedy ran for President, he was losing the race and took it all the way to the convention. Also, Ted Kennedy was very forceful during his fight for the White House. So he cannot talk about Hillary getting out of the race.
Posted by: cmyvote2008 | May 9, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Staniam,
Please be so good as to clarify what you mean by the following:
“Obama has just attacked Hillary unfairly and now Mccain”
Posted by: Deb | May 9, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
mandm
It will not stop Obama will not be the nominee and when that happens you will accept it
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Philly: come on “typical white people” may be new and offensive to you but to many minorities they understand it. barack grew up around white people his entire life his mom grandparents and then harvard. you dont think he had white people give him that why are you here look? or that you must be here because of affirmative action, or they clutch their purses when black men walk by them? im 23 and have had that happen many a times. its insulting and demoralizing to know you are no threat to anyone but to walk next to a car door and have a white woman lock the doors.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Deb
Obama has attacked Mccain as well as Clinton with underhanded references CLinton supporters will not support Obama and will not back down!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Staniam,
And you have some sort of mystical knowledge that allows you to know beyond any shadow of a doubt that the will of the majority of the voters in the Democratic primary AND the elected delegates AND the superdelegates will be overturned and Obama will not get the nomination?
Care to share the source of your all-knowing insider knowledge? How, prithee, will he be stopped?
Posted by: kitty | May 9, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Brian: if you want me to pull up that stats i can. but right now those benefiting most from affirmative action are not blacks its white women. My parents work in human resources as does my girlfriend they show me this stuff everyday. and the assumption that whites haven’t been engaging in affirmative action is insulting. how did mccain get into the senate? rich father in law, how did mccain get into the naval academy? dad and grandfather got him in, how did hillary get into the senate? wife of a president.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Sometimes I close my eyes and try to imagine Senator Barack Obama sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office. Then I shudder and shake the image out of my head. It would be like your high school’s student council president becoming separated and lost from the main group of the daily White House tour. Its not his skin color that makes the image implausible, its his complete lack of relevant experience and his deep seated insecurity and shallow nature. I honestly get the feeling that Barack ran for President mainly just to prove that he could do it [thus, "Yes We Can!" slogans], not that he REALLY wanted the job at all.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 9, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
MCcain’s age is and will be an issue , the guy is as ( mentally ) sharp as a water melon these days . He would be the oldest man ever to be elected president if he won which thanks to Bush ain’t likely to happen even in this country of dumbed down Americans .
Posted by: JK | May 9, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Deb
Obama has attacked Mccain as well as Clinton with underhanded references CLinton supporters will not support Obama and will not back down
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008 12:16:26 AM
_____________________
Please try to learn the fundamentals of writing so people could understand your attempts and thereby know the full extent of your ignorance.
Posted by: jbate | May 9, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
How can McCain’s people be upset about “losing his bearings?” After Joe Lieberman had to correct McCain about terrorists in Iran, McCain’s staff explained it away by saying he had a “senior moment.” So, I guess McCain is running a smear campaign against himself!
Posted by: Nanc | May 9, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Kitty there have been 34 million votes cast so far only one million came from the caucuses where Obama got his so called “insurmountable lead” at the end of the primaries Obama will have only a 100 delegate lead and because of his electability the remianing superdelegates which will not announce before the convention will go for Hillary and you will accept it
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Stan: are you serious? if this election isnt about it then which one is or will be? at what point does america reconcile its racial tension? why do you think america is so behind the rest of the world in education, science, math, technology, and social justice? because we havent healed our own wounds. george bush sent over 3 million dollars in three days to myanmar guess how long it took him to send it to katrina? hasnt arrived.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Staniam,
Nope, doesn’t cut it. I want specific, detailed cases in which Obama has attacked–without provocation and without any sort of grounding in fact–either McCain or Clinton.
And if you are planning to use this particular exchange about McCain losing his bearings, it won’t wash, because as all the intelligent posters on this blog know, it was a statement having to do with the disconnect between the way McCain promised to run his campaign and the way he is doing so.
So, please, no generics. A specific example.
Oh, and please use punctuation in your diatribe.
Posted by: Deb | May 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Deb
if you cant read my posts without punctuation that is your problem thats the way I write get over it go away
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Staniam,
I am so pitying you right now, you have no idea.
What are you going to do if this thing doesn’t turn out the way you plan? What if all the intelligent (and not so intelligent) folks in the Democratic party decide they are going to do the right thing and give the nomination to the man who earned it via popular vote and elected delegates, and not overturn the will of the people and hand it to Hillary?
How will you go on? How will you survive?
The disappointment will probably be too much for you.
Posted by: kitty | May 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Obama is black. Clinton is female. McCain is old. Why is it politically incorrect to call a spade a spade? Get a grip people.
Posted by: allie | May 9, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Republican are masters at fending off criticism by feigning outrage at relatively minor negative comments, hoping to stem more serious relative comments later. But it won’t work this election. We coming after you and your out of touch, old candidate. Can’t you just see how bad it’s going to get with McCain becoming riled and confuse in upcoming debates. We’re looking for it. Can hardly wait.
Posted by: t.edgar | May 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
StanIam,
No, it won’t work to deflect the issue. Still waiting for those specifics extracted from your generic.
Posted by: Deb | May 9, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
allmr18
seriously we arent going to give Obama a free pass just because hes the first black candidate with a serious shot at the white house that is reverse racism
Posted by: allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Deb
I cant be more specific than Ive been you are not very bright if you cant understand it and no I wont use punctuation
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
I wouldnt expect you to give him a free pass. but argue his policies not his race. and hes not the first hes about the 4th or 5th. just the first to make it this far. and reverse racism is non existent. it makes no sense and i dont have time to argue that point.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
jbate,
I know, but he is such an idiot he doesn’t realize he is making more of an idiot of himself every times he responds.
It’s like the Pavlovian dog; he can’t help himself, but in the end all he does is slobber all over himself and still has an empty feeling inside.
Sigh.
Posted by: deb | May 9, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Deb
we are not idiots because we dont support Obama half the country doesnt so deal with it there will not be total support for Obama
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Philly: No im not saying he was justified what im saying is did you think it wouldnt come up? hillary said earlier today that shes getting the hard working white american vote was she justified no but it came up. and lets take the 270 million whites in comparison to the 37 million blacks. if half of the whites have done something racially based its typical. now im in now way substantiating what hes saying but minorities have felt this way for years, and this is the first time all this is coming out.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Staniam,
You are such an empty bag of hot air….you spout and spout and spout nonsense, have no support for anything you say, insult and threaten people, make wild prognostications, refuse to deal with real issues, and have no knowledge of which you speak.
You are really putting an quite a show this evening–and revealing how little you know.
LOL–your absurdity has made me laugh.
On the other hand, I do feel sorry for you…… Wow
Posted by: Deb | May 9, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Phillypaul
remember when Obama Mocked Hillary for being like annie oakley up there in a duck blind… does he even know what that is ?
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Deb
you are just upset that everyone isnt in total agreement with your pals well it will be that way!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Jabate
with all due respect you cant know very much at 23
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Of course there are intelligent folks who don’t support Obama, but they are able to articulate specifically why they are not and not rely on inference and innuendo in doing so.
You are not able to articulate a single reason–and have the nerve to tell me to fill in the blanks you can’t fill in yourself.
Posted by: Deb | May 9, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
To “Stanium” – Yes, I do remember the day Barack Obama immaturely mocked Senator Hillary Clinton when she simply had the AUDACITY to mention that she was proud that her father taught her to hunt and shoot in PA. It was the exact moment when any respect that I held for Senator Obama flew out the window. And I did WANT to like and admire him. The man is not what he purports to be, and if elected President, America will soon discover that fact. But then, it will be too late.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 9, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
brian
I agree they cannot dictate to us on how the race dialogue will be thats exactly what Pres Clinton was saying in SC
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
My, my, sensitive are we. Did he throw one of his famous tantrums? It must really be on McCain’s mind if that’s the first thing he thought of. But psst… just between us, He really is quite old to be president. He can better serve the country in the senate where he can help the Dems. give a new direction to our country.
Posted by: al | May 9, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Phillypaul
and I do remeber BOs convention speech in 2004 with fondness and his announcement at the state capitol in Il trying to equate himelf to President Lincoln but itst he underhanded novice swipes that Obama and the Obamabots take… which is the subject of this article that I cannot abide!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Obamabreaker
its about time that someone came to the rescue! I guess these Obamabots need their beauty sleep and will be leaving us shortly since they are so young but we need all the help we can get!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
To “Tracy” – You are absolutely correct about Senator John McCain not being the lucid and more normal acting man that he was in 2000. There is something just “off” and strange about him now. Pacing, and muttering, and keeping his head down, and his incessant use of the phrase, “My friends” “My Friends!”-as if he thinks he is Caesar or something. This is part of why I wanted Senator Hillary Clinton to succeed so badly. Barack is an inexperienced, arrogant, empty suit and John McCain seems to be suffering the onset of old age. Neither is a secure choice. I still have not given up on Hillary!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 9, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Fred: Um really? your working under the assumption that its been like this all 20 years. 9/11 didnt happen until 2001. how can you know ahead of time that your pastor was going to say something like that? you cant. And the church isnt racist it has white members and is a branch of the UCC a white christian institution. And judgement is not an issue because it took mccain almost 15 years to vote for mlk day, he voted against the GI Bill, and for the war when he had the information infront of of him. he also voted against funding for katrina. so what type of judgement do you really mean. because when you look on a job application im pretty sure religion or pastor isnt on there
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
staniam, it’s not only the young that are suppoeting Obama. But these young people have gone to war for this country. And yet you mock them. Way to go.
Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Brian: you have a point ron paul and obama have the most support amongst soldiers.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
staniam, please enlist and tell me how you feel after you have been in the war zone.
Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Brian: earlier you said something about minorities setting the tone and tenor. would you expand on what you meant by that? just so we can discuss this
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
The United States of America…and all this country could come up with was Clinton, McCain and Obama. Reading the posts on this site is pathetic. Each one of you has been sucked in by one of these 3 losers. You’re all so smart, write your own names in when it comes to November voting.
Posted by: Lisa | May 9, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
My, my, sensitive are we. It must really be on McCain’s mind if that is the first thing that he thought of. Hope he din’t throw one of his famous tantrums. But really psst…He really is too old to be president. He can better serve in the Senate where He can help the Dems. give our great country a new direction. Never mind what Limbaugh says about him, which is far worse than any supposed dig, McCain will help the new president (Obama/Clinton) because he can work across the aisle.
Posted by: al | May 9, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Let’s see we are not suppose to discuss the elephant in the room even though it MIGHT affect our country. He’s OLD and he chose to run for President. It’s not off limits.
Posted by: Sam | May 9, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Get used to Obama fans manners. They have none.
This is a man that deserves respect if you can’t have manners…just say nothing or move along.
Posted by: J | May 9, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
I think you have all lost your marbles.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 9, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Brian: you know how many people lost their healthcare plans because she was given the task of running 1/7 of the economy? i had many many friends and family members lose their policies because of it. and i spoke out of time i meant to say her healthcare plan now would cripple our economy
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Leroy
the world isnt ready for a less than truthfull black president
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
alalmr18
you dont know anything because you are 23 you will accept it if Obama is not the nominee
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Oh geez Obama supporters are really the pits, now its make fun of McCain time.
Posted by: SJ | May 9, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Stan: lol dont let my age fool you. i have experience in my field. but if doesnt get the nominee i will back hillary and hope i dont gag. I know enough about the things that are relevant to me at the time. and as i get older ill acquire more. but ill never reject learning anything new but i will also defend my beliefs and anyone elses.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Earl
no campaign commercials! half of america is sick of Obama!
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Everyone is Sick of Hillary & She’s one of us democrats. But You Will not come for obama’s time like that!
Posted by: Leroy Kirk | May 9, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Ever wonder what happened to the real McCain. He was against the Bush tax cuts. He was once critical of our misadventure in Iraq. He called religious extremists agents of intolerance. Now for 2008 he has made an about turn on all these issues. Whatever happened to straight talk? He has lately chosen a politically more expedient path. He has lost his bearings.
Posted by: worldsam | May 9, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Brian: your replying to fast lol. but i know because they told me and from what ive heard of the healthcare plan from then. when i studied it in undergrad and did some intern work for a hospital its what some of the staff told me. maybe they were wrong if so then i will recant my statement. but your latter part was right. her idea was way out of touch
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
leroy
it isnt Obamas time yet he shouldve consided the nomination and run for VP now he will never be president you have to folow protcol of seniority in the democratic party
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Stan: if thats the case hillary shouldnt be running either. both of them are junior senators and have passed the same amount of legislation 2 bills in there short time in the senate. hillary was in the white house but passed little to no legislation. barack in the illinois senate passed many bills with republican members. so that argument can go both ways
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
Hold up! Obama is More President Than Hillary Will Ever Be. Senioity? Break The Word Down, SENIOR Lol!
Posted by: Leroy Kirk | May 9, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
Go Hillary. Obama has done NOTHING for Illinois. Is it true Alice Palmer supports Hillary? Gee-I wonder why? Obama has no plan about anything. When he’s not able to withdraw troops in Iraq like he said he would, I hope Hillary Clinton and John McCain remind everybody they told him so.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | May 9, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Earl, some of you people are now joining Clinton with Obama after you have slandered hacked and brutalised here for 16 months . You are now realising it that Obama cannot win without Clinton , you now want her support , you wont get it never .McCain will rather win
Posted by: A True black American | May 9, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Last year over 40000 deaths, last year over 400000 deaths this year is going along the same. The years before the same. No candidates even knows what caused them. No cadidate is apalled by them. Last year maybe 1000 deaths and it is great cause of concern. What is wrong with this picture? Do you know what the big numbers are? They are useless and not for anything. The 1000 is for freedon, democracy, our home economy (oil) it counts the other 440000 deaths are useless for speed, for drinking and for drug highs. Why aren’t the bg causes of death an issue?
Posted by: Hank | May 9, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
In an interview on CNN, Obama accused McCain of trying to “smear” him by saying that the Palestinian militant group Hamas favored his candidacy.—————————————–
UH, yeah. That’s not an accusation. That’s the truth.
Posted by: BlueJersey | May 9, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
stanium, half of America is sick period..they gave bush two terms..and is posturing to give old man McCain the presidency…The man is too old and I for one would spare the man by not voting for him. If you love McCain have mercy on the man and vote for someone else..why would you put the man through this grinding job..Do you care for the old man? We need to take care of our seniors..If we vote McCain in what message are we sending to the world about our concern for old people?
Posted by: Earl | May 9, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
It Must Be Nice Being White in the sun only to have a black shadow cast upon you! Isn’t That Right Alla MR?
Posted by: Leroy Kirk | May 9, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Leroy: Lol man i have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Obama isn’t exactly wrong about McCain losing his bearings. Where did Hamas say they were for Obama? McCain probably made it up!!! I heard on some local news stations McCain’s own words saying he’d make things up to get elected and throw the populace off about the other candidate, whoever it was. So, I’d let it rub off my shoulders like everything else if I were Obama.
And, many of us don’t realize McCain said his summer gas tax isn’t a gimmick, it’s the way he really thinks and the American public ought to get used to it if they are going to elect him. Things like this are the policies McCain thinks are real solutions!!! I’m Republican and can’t stand that we only have McCain as an option. I’m listening OBAMA, but know I’ll still vote Republican if McCain doesn’t totally botch it!
Posted by: MaryAnne Chasel | May 9, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
This is media bias at its best. McCain smears Obama, then Obama says McCain lost his bearings on the straght talk express and the media buys this stupid interpretation by McCain. The point is the McCain smear….Mr. Integrity, Mr. Straight Talk lied, lied, lied, lied as has has since his first day as the senator from Arizona and the scandals he’s been part of (Yo Keating 5!)
Posted by: Sam Anderson | May 9, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
True black American, I do not care who becomes president of the USA as long as it is not a Republican..I like Hillary and Obama. I did not vote in the primary but I’m voting in the general elections for whomever the Democrat nominee is..you see I’m a true democrat and would never jump ship like some of you Hillary voters who plan to vote for McCain..the old man..inorder to spite Obama. McCain is too old and likes war..he is a warmonger like bush..the only difference is that he served and Bush did not..Republican party is war,and more war..so vote for McCain out of spite for obama and see where that would get you. Also, Hillary supporters have to remember that is she becomes the nominee(wink,wink) then she needs Obama supporters too..Duh!
Posted by: Earl | May 9, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
So what was said that was incorrect?
Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 9, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
I don’t think Obama was, even subtly, referring to age. I think he meant ‘losing his bearings’ in the most direct sense. But the thing is, McCain IS old! It is valid to raise that issue directly if Obama or others want to.
Age limits frequently, and very legally, are set for a variety of jobs. I know after 8 years of Bush some of us might have forgotten this: normally the job of President is a very demanding one, and requires a great deal of stamina and mental clarity. If McCain applied to be a police officer today he would be declined due to age. If he attempted to return to the armed forces, become a lifeguard, an astronaut, or airline pilot, etc. he would be declined. Outright. No subtle comments or veiled inuendo required. So why is it such a no no to discuss age when talking about the most important job in the country?
Posted by: Sparky | May 9, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Brian: your not understanding what im saying. and we can solve this over night so we will call it quits for now. hopefully we will get the chance to speak again and debate this.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 9, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
AllamR18,you are right about statistics. Mark twain once said “that there are three kinds of lies… lies, damn lies and statistics
Posted by: Earl | May 9, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Obama Will Lead us Democrats in a Unified State of Law. Bush Screwed Up All 8 yrs for Oil That’s Why Gas Prices Are so High. Mc Cane Wants to Continue Army-Over-Economy. That’s Why Homelessness Continue to Skyrocket!
Obama 08
Posted by: Leroy Kirk | May 9, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
My mom is seventy-two, love her, just not presidential.
Posted by: Nelly | May 9, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Obama was not talking about McCain’s age. He was refering to the underhanded and cheapshot McCain took at him by trying associate Obama with the Elected Terrorist Party Hamas. The meaning to me was that McCain is stooping beneath Sen McCain’s morals. When I remember that Sen McCain says at every chance that Sen Obama is to inexpierienced, I question why is McCain age not an legitimate issue? He is 71 yrs old and has ideas and attitude from a previous era, maybe that explains why Mccain is against Legal abortion and has stated that he intends to put 2 Supreme Court Justices on the bench to overturn Roe v Wade,The continuation of the Iraq war, No plan for the US economy and no healthcare plan etc. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks! This petty whining from McCain campaign is just a diversion from the real issues.
Dems 08
Posted by: jld1959 | May 9, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
“It has nothing whatsoever to do with age. He is questioning his ethics.”
________________________________________
Why would Obama worry about questioning McCains ethics. He’s a Republican right? He obviously has none…….
Posted by: dk | May 9, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Looks like McCain got to Obama, for Obama to use that dig about him ‘losing his bearings.’ The possible multiple entendre isn’t ‘lost’ on us, either. Losing his bearings is similar to other negatives like:
‘Screw loose’
‘Losing his marbles’
‘Losing it’
‘Losing his way’
‘Losing his mind’
‘Losing his wits’
‘Losing his edge’
‘Losing himself’
‘Losing the race’
* * *
If McCain is losing anything, it’s Obama. He’s so far ahead, Obama can’t see the issues anymore & has to revert to innuendo about his opponent’s maturity. That just calls attention to the maturity deficit of Obama.
Score 1 for McCain. Zero for Obama.
Posted by: Danby | May 9, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
I work in the laundry room of a nursing home in Nebraska. I just asked 5 people who I knew were McCain supporters if they thought that “loosing one’s bearings” was a slight against the elderly or in any way implicated age. Of course, none of them had yet heard about this latest earth-shattering scandal, so perhaps that is why they all thought nothing of the phrase. One respondent even thought that I was talking about Brittney Spears. Politics always divides, but I wish we wouldn’t flush the previously agreed upon meanings of language down the toilet every time it doesn’t go our way. Oh, and McCain is a war monger.
Posted by: c | May 9, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
jld1959 asks, …”I question why is McCain age not an legitimate issue?” For the same reason Obama’s race is not a legitimate issue. The same reason Clinton’s gender is not a legitimate issue. Their fitness for the job is a legitimate issue. Can anyone point out how someone’s race or age will prevent them from doing the job? If so, fine, but they can’t use a broad brush to paint whole racial groups or whole age groups because individuals differ. Who Hamas would prefer to be in office may be relevant to some voters. I wonder how they believe they know him, any better than we do.
Posted by: Jane in USA | May 9, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
Anne,
You see what you want to see. Where you see tired and strained face, most of us see a warm and welcoming gaze that is energized and focused. Even the news media has made mention of his renewed energy. You stand pretty much alone in the observation of where Obama is today, several days after he won an important victory.
Where your hear manufactured age insults, most of us who actually listened to the interview heard the sorrow of a man who expected better from McCain and an observatino that McCain is not holding true to is pledge of a decent campaign.
Now, you can twist reality all you want, but the truth is out there for all unbiased (and no, that isn’t a racial slur) to see.
I think your dislike of this man is affecting your perception.
Posted by: Kira | May 9, 2008, 5:40 am 5:40 am
Jane,
Er, being black doesn’t affect how you think, your reaction time, your memory, your judgment, your stamina.
Being black just means your skin is a little darker than other people, but that it is.
It is legitimate to be concerned about having a man who is in his seventies in the White House and responsible for making critical decisions when he is already showing signs of diminishing ability on the campaign trail–when he isn’t even being pushed by any democratic candidate.
His age and its affect are legitimate concerns in a way the color of skin is not.
Posted by: Kira | May 9, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am
The McCain campaign know his age will be one the biggest issues and may be the deciding factor for many voters.
Posted by: Bob, DC | May 9, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
Another non-story. I’m not an old man and I as does everybody else, “lose their bearings” once in a while too. This is so ridiculous, McCain’s people should hang thier heads in shame to say something like this. Now everytime Obama says anything, they will use the “old man” excuse again. Don’t ask McCain how he feels today, they will say it’s another attack on his age. Dumb. By the way, he really is up there in age for a job that is as demanding as being President. Maybe McCain sees how little President Bush works and since his program would be a mirror of this, that he feels he can do the same job while sleeping.
Posted by: Jake | May 9, 2008, 6:05 am 6:05 am
This is Obama’s campaign style. He smears and slanders, and then accuses the other one of doing so….he has done this repeatedly to Hillary and because of the old GOP trash against Bill and Hillary, people are gullible to believe him. His big ideas are very costly…how are we going to pay for all of Obama’s liberal agenda? His ideas on creating jobs will cost 200 billion….will we go to China to get it? He is a liar and a phony. Wake up people. Hillary is far more competent, so all he could do is tear her down.
Posted by: Jenna | May 9, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
So much for Obama’s promise of change..I’m sick of him doing stuff like this when he’s promised us a change from the norm. I’m getting more and more convinced everyday now watching him being so smug. May have to just sit this election out this year and not vote.
Posted by: Dee | May 9, 2008, 6:19 am 6:19 am
A close loss in NC wouldve helped Clinton more but she will win by 40 and 30 in WVA and KY and will be ahead in the delegate count when we say delegate count the Obamabots think thats just elected delegates the final tally is elected delegates and superdelegates and the supers are supposed to decide whos electable and thats Hillary so Obamas chickens will come to get him soon enough :)
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
For those who for whatever reason do not like Obama, there’s nothing any one can do to placate them. Anything he says or comment he gives is most likely going to be misconstrued to make him look either insulting of stupid. I am, therefore, not surprised at all to find that the issue is no longer whether McCain was right to have smeared Obama with Hamas, but whether Obama in his response took a dig at the old man of the Republican Party.
Posted by: kirikenibo | May 9, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am
Just another cheap shot by a slick union orginizer from the south side of Chicago where people “voted” early and often.
You have to remember Obama is slick, makes a hit, runs, then everyone else cleans up what he says. He never cleans it up himself. Obama also threw his grandmother under the bus so to speak, never got really angry at Rev. Wright, so we have a very slick, silver tounged politician. Change, he says, hasn’t yet defined anything. Just pie in the sky, nothing down to earth. Surender, retreat, isolate, run, and if needed, then we will talk to all the enemies of the USA. Right, as they click their heels and pull the trigger to kill us all.
John McCain has more integrety in his little finger than Obama has in his whole body.
Posted by: platteman | May 9, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
Obama is using the same dirty style of attacks that he used on Hillary and the followers are still drinking the koolaide!!
When you buy into Obama’s game – he wins and you loose. When you finally wake up you will see that you have been bold faced lied to. Let me tell you ahead of time “I told you so”!
Posted by: Juli An | May 9, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
This odd overreaction by McCain’s clan shows how jittery they’ve gotten watching what happened to Clinton. They’ll come out with guns loaded and hope the GOP power machine will sustain them… but there’s a newer, faster model in town and so: muscle all you want… we’re in for the ride!
Posted by: origood | May 9, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am
My advice to the McCain campaign is to stay above the mudslinging that Alexrod & Co. are so good at over at Obama’s campaign headquarters. These “CHANGE” guys stay up at night thinking up new dirt to make headlines for Obama. Let’s give them some real “CHANGE” at the polls in November when HRC’s supporters vote McCain over the “HYPE OF HOPE”!!! Take the high road McCain and you are going to win it big in November!! War hero McCain v. slick, 2-faced, anti-american Obama – what a joke!!!!!
Posted by: fairsuperdelegates08 | May 9, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Awwwww the big crybaby McCain can dish it plenty dirty, but he gets a dig about his age and ignorance that is essentially true and he goes ballistic. Da big baby…him no like criticism but him can dish it real good hisself, can’t him? Awwwwwww. Truth hurts Pubs. You are masters of insult, slime and dirty innuendo (as in Jeremiah Wright) while you accept the support of racist bigot John Hagee…but you not like it when you get it back. ‘Know what I say?
GO BARAK. Don’t be a ‘nice guy’ like John Kerry was when he lay down and let Republicans smear and swiftboat him.
Hope Obama won’t retract anything. You know McCain will be questioning Obama’s patriotiem, his judgment (also agism: McCain will paint Obama as an inexperienced baby) and his ‘associates’….so let the insults begin. McCain has gotten a free ride so ffar. And he’s NO shrinking violet when it comes to dishing dirt. So GO Obama. Do some more. You know McCain will do it to you and in politics, two wrongs DO make a right.
Posted by: hageehoggie | May 9, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Way to go Obama. You just lost some votes from the Senior population. None of the candidates are perfect, none of them can really bring about CHANGE because the Office of POTUS is not a dictatorship. Once again, we must select the lessor evil among the candidates. Some change.
Posted by: Longtree | May 9, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Longtree
Really Ive been saing all along that the Obama campaign is as amateur as you can get they just dont know basica facts and make up things for their convienience… sounds an awful lot like President GW Bush
Posted by: staniam | May 9, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
either your with us or you are against us. In that case we will kill you…………..
Posted by: Rml | May 9, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Longtree
It was not about McCain’s obvious short term memory loss. It was about McCain losing his way in moral terms, LOSING HIS MORAL COMPASS, when McCain lied that he McCain “knows” that Hamas likes Obama better than he likes McCain.
The phrase losing one’s bearings means losing your direction on a ship or plane. It has nothing to do with age. The age spin avoids the real fact, that McCain has now used faked material. Lies.
Posted by: bruce becker | May 9, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Good grief, even as I read this article and passed this quote I was still waiting to see where he called him old. I was thinking “bearings” as in a ship on the wrong heading. But I guess McCain’s people took it to mean that he was suggesting that Johnny is so old, his ball bearings are popping out and being lost.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | May 9, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
TSnow
You got it. losing one’s bearings means losing one’s direction, at sea, or in an airplane.
it has nothing to do with age.
Lost his way. Moral compass.
Posted by: bruce becker | May 9, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Dee, pay attention.
Obama didnt do anything wrong.
McCain lied and said Obama was preferred by the Palestinian government over McCain.
Obama said, hmmm McCain has lost his bearings.
That means, he lost his moral compass. It has nothing to do with age.
McCain is wanting to make age an issue in this consideration instead of the rude lie about Obama.
Posted by: bruce becker | May 9, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT I JUST READ EVERY COMMENT LISTED HERE. I FURTHER CAN’T BELIEVE HOW EASILY YOU ALL FELL RIGHT INTO IT!
IT’S NOT ABOUT “BEARINGS.”
IT’S ABOUT HOE THE REPUBLICANS SAID THAT OBAMA SIDES WITH HAMMAS, AND YOU ALL WERE WILLING TO OVERLOOK THAT!
THIS IS HOW THE REPUBLICANS WORK. IT’S GOING TO BE A LOOOOOONG CAMPAIGN.
LET’S TRY NOT TO LOSE, “OUR BEARINGS.”
Posted by: DAVID NH | May 9, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Does McLame want the public to PRETEND that he is NOT OLD? He is just going to have to accept the fact that he really is OLDER THAN DIRT and get on with it! What is so disturbring is that he can insinuate that just because Hamas would like to see Obama as our next POTUS that we are supposed to infer that somehow Obama ‘asked’ Hamas for their support. However, if any insinuation (which did NOT OCCUR) is made about McLame’s age, we are then supposed to act as though it is just not true – McLAME IS VERY OLD AND THERE IS NO GETTING AROUND THAT FACT but Obama did NOT say that, I did!!
Posted by: Disparaged | May 9, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Sen McCain and his party have no strategy for anything and so he can
only resolve to smear and fear tactics.
He has no real answers for anything and
probably can’t think of any. Yes he is
old!
Posted by: M.A | May 9, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
. . . .while we’re on the subject,
Why won’t Cindy release her tax records? Is this why politicians should never marry the other woman? Is she supposed to if she married McCain?
Posted by: DAVID NH | May 9, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Maybe if McCain wasn’t so old, he wouldn’t confuse a reference to direction with a reference to age ;)
Posted by: Paul | May 9, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
David, I don’t think she should. If they’re not joint returns, then who cares? She’s not the candidate.
Does McCain benefit from having a rich spouse? Sure. Anyone would.
Posted by: Paul | May 9, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I don’t get it. What does “losing his bearings” have to do with age. A person can lose his/her bearings at any age. The dictionary defines “bearing” as a way of conducting oneself; relevance; producing or ability to produce; awareness of one’s situation; etc. There is no mention of age. Everyone knows how old McCain is. If he is paranoid about his age, maybe he should not have run for president. Obama did not invent age nor has he said anything about McCain’s age that I have read or heard. The fact remains that the job of president entails a lot of pressure that maybe, just maybe, an older person can’t take. McCain and millions of other peope in their seventies know that. So “If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.” I for one, think we need someone strong and rescilient to lead our country. My vote is for Obama.
Posted by: Ron | May 9, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Ron – I think its funny the McCain camp goes out of its way to remind people their candidate is old. I’m sure its a mistake they’ll recognize and not repeat, but come on guys… campaign 101.
Posted by: Paul | May 9, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Clearly Obama meant bearings in the navigation sense. McCain used to have integrity but has veered into Rovy waters. In other words, he’s lost his bearings.
Posted by: Michael | May 9, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
McCain’s only 71; wow, I thought he was much older.
McCain’s staffers sure are blowing up over nothing. Are they reflecting their candidate’s famous temper, do you suppose? Now, that’s scary.
I wonder who McC called a trollop when he heard the “losing his bearings” sentence.
Posted by: lisa | May 9, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Senator McCain, Your lame attempts to drive a wedge between Israel and Senator Obama are despicable. His policy toward Hamas is the same as yours. But consider this: if Adolph Hitler were alive today you would be his favorite candidate.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | May 9, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Losing his bearing … like stearing a ship and losing his bearing .. Mr McCain’s camp misinterpeted the meaning of the word — bearing as in the direction you are heading. This has nothing to do with age.
Posted by: Darcy | May 9, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Good grief people, McCain is old. If elected, he would be the oldest person ever elected. AGE is an issue, get used to it.
Posted by: PhilBgood | May 9, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
MidwestIowa – we can find internet posts from people supporting any of the candidates who ran this time, from either party, and point to a “scary” factor.
Bottom line is that a lot of Americans are knuckleheads, and every candidate has his or her share of them.
Posted by: Paul | May 9, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Proves that Obama’s claim that he “is running his campaign differently” to be just another blatant Obama Lie.
Posted by: Joanna | May 9, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
GET OVER IT!…THE DUDE IS OLD. I like him and the fact remains that the dude is old. And no matter how normally respectable he is, there will be a time when he will take the gloves off and scrap..that is who he is. By the way, for them to say that Obama is ‘inexperienced’ is a reference to his age, therefore its open age for discussion.
Posted by: MrMajek | May 9, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
McCain is a hypocrite, and liar, first he says he is going to run a clean campaign, then he goes an does something as insulting as saying that the Palestinian militant group Hamas favored Obama’s candidacy. McCain knew full well that Obama believes just as McCain, and Hillary believes that Hamas is a terrorist organization, so for McCain to say any phrase which includes Hamas and any of the democratic candidate’s name in the same sentence is disgusting, and disgraceful, and it is a sign that McCain is a liar, and a hypocrite, and will say and do anything to win. After this disgraceful act, by McCain, he wants to complian when Obama defends himself, and responds to McCain’s attempt at smearing him. Obama’s response to McCain was very respectul compared to the disgraceful thing McCain had said, and it was totally appropriate for Obama to defend himself, and say that McCain’s words were offensive, an that it is a sign that McCain is losing his bearings.
McCain has no right to be outraged, he should be ashamed of his behaviour.
Obama’s response was appropriate, simply stating that McCain words were offensive, and that McCain was losing his bearings, proof is that McCain says he’s going to run a clean campaign, yet two days later he is trying a disgraceful smear tactics against Obama. So yes McCain is losing his bearings, from day to day he is either purposefully ignoring or forgetting the promises he had made the day before about having a respectful campaign. McCain has shown that he is not a man of his words!!
I would ask McCain how happy he would be if Obama had used McCain’s name in the same sentence as Hamas. Think McCain would have be happy about that?! NOT!!
Posted by: Sara | May 9, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Since when does age have anything to do with the
office of President? The BIG fear to play off of is “He might die in office, then what?” JFK died in office, FDR died in office in modern times. We vote
for the VP as a potential replacement, thats why we have one. Hopefully we are getting racial issue, let’s TRY to
give age the same importance.
Posted by: J67 | May 9, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
This is so sad. They couldn’t find anything wrong with his interview so now just like always the republicans are making up an issue. I hadn’t realized McCain was so sensitive about his age. Wonder what he’s so worried about? You’ll never see Obama pull something like this. Just freaking pathetic.
Posted by: Xynar | May 9, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Those of you stating McCain likes war have no idea what they are talking about. Do any of you really know what he went through while a POW? He had his arms broken numerous times by the Viet Cong, and those of you who say he “swings his arms funny” are sick.
No veteran who has been involved in any combat likes war. Those are ignorant statements made by people who are blessed enough to reside in a country where food is plentiful, and fanatics aren’t killing each other trying to gain power. Try taking a moment and think about what you are saying before you post. And be a little more thankful for where you live. At least our voting process is peaceful, and we aren’t forced into voting for someone at the point of a gun.
Posted by: A Veteran | May 9, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
1masterstroke – Thats a very impressive list you’ve put together. Thank you for posting it.
Posted by: Xynar | May 9, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“Losing his bearings” is a reference to McCain’s sucking up to the right wing. Maybe if he wasn’t so old he could figure it out.
Posted by: bskahn | May 9, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
McCains Strategist needs to refer more closely to his dictionary…I understood what was said and Obama did not comment on his age at all.
Posted by: Laidetea | May 9, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama is politics as usual!! Obama was endorsed by Hamas because they know he is the weaker candidate on terrorism. His policies on Iran remind me of Chamberlain’s policy towards Hitler, “appeasement” and we know how well that worked. He needs to criticize McCain to reflect away from the oh so true criticim of himself by McCain. By the way, I am a Democrat!!
Posted by: Linda | May 9, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Obama is politics as usual!! Obama was endorsed by Hamas because they know he is the weaker candidate on terrorism. His policies on Iran remind me of Chamberlain’s policy towards Hitler, “appeasement” and we know how well that worked. He needs to criticize McCain to reflect away from the oh so true criticim of himself by McCain. By the way, I am a Democrat!!
Posted by: Linda | May 9, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Grandpa Mccain, Me thinks thou dost protest too much…..
Posted by: John Martin | May 9, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Grandpa Mccain, Me thinks thou dost protest too much…..
Posted by: John Martin | May 9, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
This another BAD TACTICS of John Mcain to Drag and make an issue to “OPEN PROPARANDA” to inites the sentiments to create the PUBLIC ROARS.One word..”DESPICABLE TACTICS for John MCCain to tie Obama with this RAce Card.
The TRUTH AND FACTS Are this as according to a My friend of Mine working in Middle EAST.They rated senator OBAMA as TRAITOR,Disowned His Father faith to Be a pure Christian Faith,they tied him same level Of “SATANIC VERSES” British Author Rusdie.IF They have an Opportunity they CVote for John MCaain instead of Obama at Anytime to destroy UNITED OF AMERICA silently with John McCain Quality.
Posted by: Sam | May 9, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
1masterstroke…did you ever think to look at the other “PORK” that was included in all those bills that you keep refering to? Maybe you should you dork!
Posted by: Jeff N OK | May 9, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
bblack…its spelled banana! I figured you would know that! Its called spell check…try using it and you won’t look so foolish. Your welcome!
Posted by: Jeff N OK | May 9, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Tiger said:
“Come on, Hill supporters, if you feel strongly about what I feel, please let’s all vote for McCain in GE, that would guarantee Obama doesn’t get elected. Let’s all work together – Obama failure in GE would be a big victory for Hillary!”
Uh… In the GE should Hill supporters be voting for a victory for Clinton (who had already lost) or should they be voting for a victory for themselves and the whole country?. Am I missing something here?
It seems that to Tiger it is better for the country to go through another four years of misery and failed and dangerous policies than to accept the fact that Clinton lost.
And why is Tiger ready and happy to see the country self-destruct? Is it because Clinton would have lost or is it because Obama would have won?
Tiger said to Clinton supporters “…if you feel strongly about what I feel…”
I wonder what (s)he feels so strongly about that he/she would welcome hell onto America rather than a hope for change. “Give us Clinton or give us death!” seems to be the cry. Or is it “Give us death rather than a black president!”
I just hope that the Clinton supporters Tiger is appealing to have more care for the future of America and the rest of the world than (s)he apparently does.
Tiger needs to realize that the reason Obama leads in the number of states won; the number of pledged delegates; the popular votes; and now, the super-delegates, is not because everybody is stupid. If there is any stupidity being displayed here it is by people like Tiger who want to commit national suicide. And for what reason?
The simple fact is that Obama leads in all counts because – when all put together – the MAJORITY of AMERICANS see Obama as hope for a better tomorrow.
Common sense dictates that whoever gets the nomination should be backed by all Democrats and by all who would find a continuation of the Bush policies an unthinkable nightmare. Any other kind of thinking is childish, vindictive, stupid, and dangerous.
And by the way, defeat for Obama in the GE would not be a victory for Clinton. She and supporters like Tiger would go down in history as being sick in the head.
Posted by: Geeza | May 9, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
When “losing his bearings” is interpreted as a jab at McCain’s age, it’s absolutely clear to me we don’t need anymore republicans in the White House…I’m already in the poor house! What idiocy! If I were Obama I wouldn’t even dignify that kind of ignorance with a response!
Posted by: virgoml | May 9, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
When “losing his bearings” is interpreted as a jab at McCain’s age, it’s absolutely clear to me we don’t need anymore republicans in the White House…I’m already in the poor house! What idiocy! If I were Obama I wouldn’t even dignify that kind of ignorance with a response!
Posted by: virgoml | May 9, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Well hey, Obama has a job to do to keep the faith. His colleagues promised the Americans there would be change if you give them the majority in congress. And they did change things!! Gasoline doubled at the pump; many cities became sanction cities to protect the Illegal Aliens. Unemployment went on the rise; the dollar collapsed; and our troops remain in Iraq.
Let’s see now, will Obama continue with the lucrative changes?
Posted by: onionskin | May 10, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
The MCCain camp needs to calm down because I am sure he will be attacked n a lot more than just his old age.
Posted by: Marie | May 10, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
April 4, 2008 excerpt from an article in The Examiner …Once lost, an old sailor has found his bearings! Mark Wang got the message during this article. I suppose we got the message when Obama said it.
Posted by: washbasin | May 10, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Vote for another four years of republican rule, do not think that 90 percent of George W Bush would be George W Boooh – it is four years of the same as before but said with a different voice in McCain.
Do not look at the risk of a stress sensitivity problem in both Bush and McCain as they possibly both had ignoring fathers who always thought they were disappointments and cowards, and then wanted to grow into being bullies to the world.
That is not a valid argument even if it would be like that. Even if McCain cried his eyes out every night in Hanoi Hilton, and only survived mentally there due to a semi-hate towards the father and support from the other POW’s.
It does not matter at all, McCain is still a hero, and should be the next bully president of the world. It is the most logical, psycologically.
Posted by: Tim Johnson | November 3, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
mccain is so old he forgets what hes talking about when he gives a speech. i know its true because i have seem him when it happens
having a hot head like him and ditz like
sarah palin is a sure recipe for diasaster
imagine the scenario of palin calling for a nuclear strike that just scares me beyond belief.
i have some reservations about obama but i think hes a safer choice than mccain palin
he dumped his first wife after he came home from the war because he didnt like her looks after she had a car accident while delivering christmas packages
i do give him this, i think his termpermant is a result of his pow years. during the the campaign it was always “my friends” i got so sick of that. he played the low key guy while palin raised hell about obamas ties to bill ayers (who is now 60+) when in reality all that had happened is ayers had hosted a fund raiser meeting at his house.
american needs young people in office i am so sick of old people running this country and impressing their values on me and my life.
i grew up in hippie peace love enviorment and just want to enjoy my life.
im glad to see obama in office at 46. yea hes in experienced but its not like he wont have advisors to advise him on what to do.
living in arizona i live in fear that the mexican drug wars are going to spill over into my state
mccain is 71 years old its time for him to retire and let someone more in tune
with people my age to guide the country
Posted by: ed | January 18, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm