More On That False Quote in the Obama TV Ad

Nice “uplifting” “new politics” from Obama again.

first and foremost, it seems the only one running for President that is doing something now instead of talking is John McCain, he is pushing a bill through to stop the tax for the summer, while the dems are fighting it. The 2 libs running are just talk!
now if you tax the corporation they will pass that on to the consumer.
But the libs slipped up here, they finally admitted they take in more then double the profit the oil companies make.
Consider they state that by removing the tax for 2 months will cause the Government to lose over 10 billion dollars. ok so 5 billion dollars a month take that times 12 you get 60 billion dollars in taxes a year, they cry that the oil companies made 30 billion dollars in a year in profit,
So who is benefitting from oil prices!
Please note we pay for each House member’s gas and car.
Democrat Charles B. Rangel, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, should get about 24 mpg (highway) in his 2004 Cadillac Deville. According to the Times, we pay $774.50 a month for his car.

nothing like dirty politics but those who think you’ll get better out of Chicago are young.

The man is a myth propagated by the media.
The DNC darling OBAMA is a lying politian!

With Axelrove in charge of the Obama campaign, is anyone really surprised that the ads are false or misleading?
The real problem is the same one that surfaced with the Jeremiah Wright scandal of hate, treason, and bigotry.
Obama either does not have real control over his own campaign, or he knowingly allows false information to be used.
Judging from past performance, the answer is probably that both factors are in play with a Chicago-style political posture.

Obama decides no to use the facts (those supposedly in their favor) and so they stoop to misstatement of facts and misrepresentation? What gives here?
They did the same when going after Hillary’s health care plan. Me thinks that Obama likes to play dirty… and/or his own policies and plans may not be so great.

Clinton can’t win. Why is she running?
She is trying to force the delegate issue by going nuclear. Why?
The answer is 2012. She knows going through with the nuclear option is going to be so polarizing that most of her supporters will be so worked up that they may even vote against Obama. Hence, Hillary for 2012 dream. Her selfish dream of being president could come true at the cost of democratic party imploding to dusts.
She is the devil himself.

Sorry you’re feelings are hurt, but Obamaa right.
Pre McCain nomination: Obama wins all bluecollars … MO, KS, IA, IL
Post McCain nod: Obama barely loses TX, OH PA
The only question is how many chaos-ers show up in IN. Obama’s beating HRC, Billdo, McCain, the RNC and Limp-paw

krugman is a hillary supporter and eager to cry fowl…if he’s doesn’t agree with the ad, so be it, there are hundreds of economists who do..
tapper,,,i used to admire your writing..but as of late..it’s only looking for the headline to start a fire..and it has a definite bias..what a guy won’t do for to be in the limelight.

Clinton can’t win. Why is she running?
She is the devil himself.
Posted by: My America | May 6, 2008 11:44:25 AM
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She can win, the GODDESS who rules from above has anointed her the best person to become president.
Even the devil herself agrees.
The false rhetoric of 2012 is just that, false.

First of all claiming Obama intentionally misquoted krugman is a stretch. 2nd of all Hillary Clinton is wrong on the issue. She is removing a tax and adding a tax therefore what gives. 3rdly every expert agrees with Obama, Hillary said that she would throw her lot in with the economist and further tried to call them elitist. And 4thly this attack ad was a response to an attack ad Hillary herself put out first. Notice Obama only attacks when being attack, or is self defense a crime also. Krugman himself even said that it is bad policy. NO one agrees with Hillary, even her supporters have to sidestep saying there for it.

Some people talk as if companies have the power to set the profit levels. If that was the case they’d be setting it very high. The prices are moving up because of shortage. They’ll making profit of course, but the market sets the price at level that supply matches demand not oil companies.

*Yawn*
Obama ’08/’12

Vanessa, AAs are only 12% of the overall population. You need white people, latino people, asian people, etc, to win in November.

Adam,
That is true in the purest sense. However, you are disregarding a fundemental principle in the OIL industry – The CARTEL. A CARTEL colludes to pre-determine the production levels in order to maintain higher prices. Now, even the OIL companies are buying into this concept and are actually forecasting less production and more profits. That is when the Market needs the invisible hand of Government to intervene and regulate the markets.

I am from Switzerland, although I am not American hater; but after 2003; after Irak war decided not to visit USA nor buy any US products.
This is not the mind set of one person; try to talk to people out side US.
America is a great country, land of opportunity; and the land which has potential to bring whole world together as a single democratic nation.
Since couple of decades you have presidents who lie for their cause… who were/are selfish… real politicians than humans…
See how bad the US economy is, see how the people are suffering in war zones, see how other people from other nations think about America.
Its really sad; how a nation could fall this much down; because of the politicians and their selfish policies
What makes a good president?? Did you ever had a second thought???
- is your new presindent :
young and energetic to bring the whole world together..
think logically and judge the things in the right way and time..
wise enough to create a dream team around with best people for their job..
is a human than politician..
Change the world Indiana!!
@ABC: you know that logically who will be globally a good president…

Obama is on the wrong side of this issue. Just goes to show how elitist and out of touch he is! He’ll say anything to win – and if you like what you hear, you need to worry whether he’s saying just the opposite to someone else to get their vote.

“She can win, the GODDESS who rules from above has anointed her the best person to become president.
Even the devil herself agrees.
The false rhetoric of 2012 is just that, false.”
The gender obsession revealed here probably explains how anyone can continue to support such a self-absorbed, toxic, and dishonest candidate.

AFTER 16 YEARS OF SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS – DO WE REALLY NEED MORE OF THEM ????

It may be that certain commodity prices–especially gasoline–need to become regulated the way insurance prices are regulated. There is obviously almost no competition in the price of gasoline, and certainly no “free market.”

Hey Jackie…
Actually, learning from one’s mistake in order to not repeat a stupid mistake again is what most objective Americans would call “EXPERIENCE.”
Furthermore, in the midst of an economic recession, I don’t want another arrogant President who discounts the opinion of experts to be running our economy.

Emma,
On the flip-side, Hillary cannot win without the AA vote.

Since the seventies our government has told us of the need to decrease dependence on foreign oil while “managing” our energy production to the detriment of drilling, off shore windmills, clean coal plants nuclear and other sources. Meanwhile we pay farmers to divert 28% of the corn crop (virtually overnight) away from food into the energy intensive production of a fuel most cars cannot use. Then we wonder why food cost so much. “Use Less” doesn’t seem to be the answer.
Like Laurel and Hardy – it’s another fine mess they’ve gotten us in.
We have contracted out industrial production, energy production, port security, shipping, and whole sectors of our economy to China, the Saudis, and other countries based on some foolish assumption that we can produce without energy or refining infrastructure and that our “intellect” will solve all problems.
Congress and our executive have betrayed our country. It is time to fix this mess and get us back on track. Spend all we need on research, save all the owls you want, but unless you have a solution better than “use less” get out of the way because it is time to stop digging ourselves into a deeper hole. It is time for Congress to unleash America so we can grow again.

The gender obsession revealed here probably explains how anyone can continue to support such a self-absorbed, toxic, and dishonest candidate.
Posted by: elc | May 6, 2008 12:06:52 PM
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You did seem to miss the sarcasm. ;)
I feel good being called out on gender bias, it so much more acceptable than the dreaded racist label!!

Another attack on Obama from ABC News.
I wonder how many times ABC menbtioned the lie Hillary told about Bosnia, if they even mentioned it at all. And then to have the nerve to say “I misspoke” makes it
And now to want to “obliterate” Iran, what is wrong with that woman?

You fools, the gas tax drop is to help Walmart ship stuff around the country.
Politics didn’t lead Obama to working class people, the working class people led Obama to politics.

Does anyone realize that as Hillary or McCain are not yet president, they have absolutely no power to instate a gas-tax holiday this summer. Stop getting all hung up on it, It’s not even a possibility.
Posted by: Willllium | May 6, 2008 12:21:19 PM
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They are U S SENATORS!!!
They draw up the bill. vote. goes to president. (DAM BUSH LEARNED HOW TO VETO)
See how good it is to blog, you can learn the basics.

Thanks for taking care of that HP
Sheesh

They are U S SENATORS!!!
They draw up the bill. vote. goes to president. (DAM BUSH LEARNED HOW TO VETO)
See how good it is to blog, you can learn the basics.
Posted by: HP Boston | May 6, 2008 12:26:04 PM
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Yea, because a plan that no one supports is going to pass both houses of congress and get a presidential signature within 2 months. Common sense can be valuable sometimes buddy.

Why hasn’t anyone brought up the fact that if the oil companies raise prices during a gas-tax holiday, they could be accused of collusion. Something they commonly do, but this would make it clear. Congress could take it from there….

Vanessa – Help me with your math. If AA’s are 34-40% of the Dem party, yet they are only 13% of American population how are you calculating this?
Of course, they are voting 92% for Obama, as we’ll see with exit polls today…but this isn’t about race, right? Clinton’s cannot be called racists…they don’t attend a black supremecy church that spews hatred to many and THIS COUNTRY! The same country BO wants to take the highest office in? I don’t think so.
BO is looking wearier and wearier and called Matt Lauer “Tim” three times in an interview yesterday. Oregon is pleading with him to do a debate too, they have four different dates to try to accomodate him, but he will run scared in Oregon too. Why can’t he debate Hillary? He can’t keep running scared. McCain will eat him alive.

Seems that it only took a few weeks to pass the current stimulus bill. Same with the mortgage bail out. A model of bipartisanship, wham bam, send money as soon as taxes are paid.
What did congress and the president know that we don’t? Why did they need to rush the bill after 8 years of practically no cooperation.

To all the Obama supporters: if you are looking for totally biased, one sided, all for Obama news, just go to MSNBC, the Obama network. The CNBC store in Reagan National Airport is selling Hillary Nutcrackers – because it is okay for a major network organization, owned by General Electric, which makes many appliances and other goods purchased by women, to be completely sexist in their coverage of the presidential race and in their stores. Great message to send to the young girls and teens wandering in during a stop between flights NBC! Send the message to girls if they want to grow up to be president they will be ridiculed just like Hillary. NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and General Electric can make sexism a national pastime to really intimidate any female ever thinking of trying to accomplish something! Racism is bad. But sexism is okay! Obama is a whiny wimp who can’t take the heat and should get out of his General Electric kitchen!

I am an older AA, but Iam voting for Hiliary she will surley make the best President, because she has the stamia and know how. Hiliary understands what this country needs and how to go about pulling this country out of it recession. Obama needs some experiencing and backbone. He als need to understand what it takes to be a good president and it is not a lot talk if you are not getting things done.

calli, you are so right about msnbc/nbc and ge – their owner. when i got so disgusted i couldn’t stand it any more, i took them off my “favorites” on my remote so i won’t accidentally turn to them when scrolling up the channels. i
will not watch even a minute of them. (i have done the same with cnn). it’s been over two months now and i’m happier every day not to be seeing them.
i will not buy a single ge appliance (and i’m in the market for a whole kitchen full of new appliances at the moment). this is how we inform the ge’s of this world that we don’t appreciate their attitude toward us, by taking away the only thing they care about – money.
disgusting sexism is rampant in this campaign, and is often initiated by obama and his supporters. in the media, cnn is bad, too, and all the rest aren’t that much better. but msnbc is the worst. so msnbc/nbc and ge get the “finger” from me that obama thought he was so cool sending hillary’s way.

Obama sure does love to hang with people who HATE AMERICA.
The latest picture of Bill Ayers stomping on the U.S. Flag sure drives that point home.
Lets count ‘em.
Rev.Wright, Bill Ayers, The terrorist fundraiser kahlidi, Tony Rezko the hood from Chicago, Auchi the Iraqi Billionaire interpol sez was involved in the food for oil embezelment scandal that the UN supervised, Michelle who has never been proud to be an American,
Hamas, ummmm and the No flag pin on the lapel, no hand over heart pledge of allegiance Senator himself.
7! Is that enough for a conspiracy?

End the Drama – Pull the Plug on Obama!!

That isn’t the only “false” statement Obama has made—-he’s either lying or plagerizing.

The sad truth is that Obama is close to sealing up the nomination, and Hillary’s supporters are going through denial.

Why does Obama say “NO WE CAN’T” when it comes to providing some tax relief to the working class?
A Gas Tax Holiday is not the solution, but it is relief!
Why does Obama want to make the high cost of gas a BITTER reality for the working class?

I am sick and tired of the media acting like the uneducated blue collar workers are the people that the candidates should be courting….like these are the only people voting in the country!

Well, Jake, Krugmans’s got one thing blatantly totally wrong.
The profits tax will not hurt the company one iota. They’ll simply raise funds in some other way to make up for the funds they lost paying the tax.
Are we honestly to beleive that they’ll just swallow it, or cut into a CEO bonus or two? Of course not, they’ll just gouge it out of consumers.
Under the Clinton plan, we’ll save 18 cents on gas for a few days, then the supply/demand issue will bring the base price up. Then later, when the windfall profits tax is billed, we’ll see our prices jump way up.
So, what’s it gonna be, America? Imaginary releif that costs us more than it “releives” us?
We’re not all suckers (I hope).

Yet more lies and dirty tricks from the Obama campaign.
Surprise! Obama isn’t ‘above’ lies and dirty campaign tricks after all !
Hillary or McCain in ’08

vanessa, i’ll bet if the truth be known
you will be one of the people who suffer the most from having either obama or mccain in office.
it does not seem as if you work, you are always on here. and if you are independently wealthy-you should not be on here talking the stuff you talk.
I hope you are the latter and well off.
because if not-well, at least you will be able to say you beat sen. clinton.
as she goes on off and continues to do good work in the world-wherever she can.
because-with all of the bile you spew,
you cannot change the good she has done or will do.
so see you or some of your relatives in the draft line or the welfare-foodstamp line.

Swissfish: When Iran has nuclear weapons mounted on North Korean missiles that will reach the neutral country of Switzerland, would you like to have the American-made EU missile shield thwart that attack, or just the potential attack?

Since there’s no way that Bush would sign a “windfall profit tax” into law this year, both McCain and Clinton’s “gas tax holiday” plans for this Summer are the same.
Therefore, Krugman’s criticism of McCain’s plan can and should be passed onto Clinton, as well.

Senator Obama is the most corrupt politician to run for high office in the last 100 years. He got started in his political life by corrupt means and it just keeps on going and going. He voted THREE TIMES to cut out gas taxes while in the senate. Just shows he is an hyprocrite. Obama, fullfil the promises you made in the mid 90 to voters in your distict and leave the rest of the country alone.If Obama wins, America loses. He is a Marxist regardless of his words. His actions show the true Obama. Terrorist groups love him, endorse him and hope he gets elected.

Irish Gram: prove it!
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Hillary Clinton is a corrupt politician, and John McCain a warmonger – like Bush. I understand that this is insulting to their supporters but it’s the truth. No one with a shred of integrity would vote for either of these politicians.
Clintons facing fraud charges, and media is not covering it.
Case Number: BC304174
PETER F PAUL VS WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
Hillary facing fraud charges
Filing Date: 10/14/2003
Case Type: Fraud (no contract) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Barack Obama should step down from the Democratic race if he is concerned about another 4 years of Republican Rule. He has been vetted as the weakest link and will surely loose against the McCain.
Hillary is clearly the strongest candidate.

What a crock! Obama and his campaign have to lie about Hillary’s gas tax position to try to look intellegent regarding their own position on the gas tax issue.
HHHMMMMM….
What dirty tricks do they have up their sleeves next? Anything to win ! New ‘change’ politics ! HaHaHa Boy, Rev, Wright was sooooo right about Obama.

Was there a merger between Fox news and ABC– Did I miss it?

Kate ,
look past the mirror ….of self-loathing and self-pity ……………. you “might”, just might ……………
find a reason to Hope and Dream again !

Ken: I was just correcting you since you got the candidate wrong.
Hillary is clearly the weakest candidate. The republicans are going to win if Hillary is nominated.

Every economist, right left and center, have agreed the McCain/Hillary gas tax is a bad and harmful idea. Why isn’t ABC talking about this. Even Clinton supporter, George Stephanapolis pointed out no one supports it. This is demeaning to the working class to say we are too stupid to know when we are being used by politicians. One way to show them, vote for the candidate who wants us to think, not the ones who are just using us. Only Obama qualifies on that criteria. Before you throw out the Hannity/Limbaugh list of garbage, stop and actually think about it and do what is best for this country.

OMG does this mean Obama is going to use the same tactics and ploys as his adversaries?????
Shame on him. He has to be better than them. He has to be truthful and accurate and compassionate and wise and mature and good. He cannot descend into the methods of his opponents. That would make him just like them, creepy.

Obama is getting desperate. Hillary is eating his waffles in North Carolina and we might see a big upset this evening.

I would love for Obama to win both states, but here is my prediction
Clinton wins Indiana by 8 and Obama wins NC by 5%
The Clinton camp spins that as a victory and goes on to use the nuclear option. Then they win the white house and 4 years later, America has become like England, a formerly great country but one that lives in the past.
But, if the Gods intervene, Obama wins, goes on to win the white house, realigns America with the world, decreases global dislike of America, improves parity inside the country, invests in infrastructure, wins another term in the white house and leaves the white house as one of the greatest presidents in modern history.
Which will it be?

When do the polls close so we can see 92% of African American vote goes to Obama? Don’t ever call the Clinton’s racists….look to Rev. Wright for that label.

A letter was signed by 230 leading economist against the stupid gas tax holiday idea, and how did Hillary respond? She has called them elitist and pressed on. This is very telling about the woman. She doesn’t care what others think, even experts. She considers herself the smartest person around, and expects others to swallow her programs in their entirety with no compromise. How anyone can believe this is the leadership style that will bring us together, and take the country forward is beyond me.
BTW, how many economist back Clinton’s idea: zero, none, Nada. She’s pandering to ignorance on the subject.

Anna – don’t worry. There are millions more like me who are going to switch over to McCain. People keep worrying about the angry kids and African Americans who will be upset if the nom is “stolen” from them, but we Hillary supporters may be a quieter bunch of women (and men)who will cross over to McCain in a heartbeat. OBAMA JUST ISN’T OUR KIND OF CANDIDATE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS SKIN COLOR, UNLIKE 92% OF BLACKS WHO ARE JUST VOTING ON SKIN COLOR.

Can you please pull the mendacity filled and offensive rant by Uncle Tom?

Jerome, like it or not, no economy can keep growing without down cycles. The laws of economics aren’t controlled by the experts, just understood.
Can you explain how Hillary would prevent the oil industry from simply keeping the price of gas the same and pocketing the difference, especially if they are expected to pay for it? If she will ignore the economists perhaps Hillary figure she’s so smart that she’ll start setting prices for gas? And if she’s so good at that, why not set prices for everything?

Clinton’s plan differs from McCain’s in that she also suggests the windfall tax profit, but no one seems to think that this is realistic, so we end up where we started, and we begin to see the logic in applying a criticism of one plan to another plan.
Would Clinton’s plan really be harmless? Even if all of the economic experts were all wrong and it worked the way she is pretending to believe it could, what about 3 more (peak) months of ignoring our dependence on oil, buying gas-guzzling SUVs, undermining the development of a “green collar” workforce, keeping pressure off of real solutions like improving fuel efficiencies and developing alternative fuels. Let’s not forget that this national vice is a foreign policy and security liability.
As I believe that Clinton’s plan is in fact counterproductive, I feel that the term “pandering” is too kind. It should be categorized along with the authorization of the Iraq war as self-serving politics that actually do us harm.
That said, I am a bit dissapointed to see the liberty that was taken with the quote. Obama is and should be held to a higher standard and this may be a bit of a slip. If we are lucky enough to put Senator Obama in office we shall continue to hold him to the highest standards of ethics, a condition he alone has created.
I’ll take this infraction anyday over the mulititude of willing deceptions and maddening condescensions coming from Clinton and McCain that should have even their own supporters completely outraged.

SEan wrote, “If the Gods intervene, Obama wins, goes on to win the white house, realigns America with the world, decreases global dislike of America, improves parity inside the country, invests in infrastructure, wins another term in the white house and leaves the white house as one of the greatest presidents in modern history.”
Whoa, SEan. Way too much to ask of America, dude. Gimme another Bud and let’s talk about lapel pins and the pledge of allegiance. God, guts, and guns, dude.

Wow! Fact-checking! What a concept. Let’s hope ABC News remembers how to do that when (or if) they ever decide to take a look at John McCain’s statements.

Again Mark McVay,
A Obama supporter claim “racism” when he does not like the truth. Why are the people that post Obama’s own lies, as proof Obama is a liar “Racist”. Possibly it’s the pot calling the kettle black.

ABC has a lot of nerve writing about integrity after the last Jerry Springer show…. I mean …debate fiasco.
Good thing Hilary got her court appearance postponed last month so she could campaign in Indiana. Hilary just wants to get back to the white house to look for some more of her hidden documents that the FBI couldn’t find the last time. I bet you Hilary is already working on her story for how she made a 1,000% profit on oil company stocks in 3 months because of a “hunch”. Hey, it worked before…

Katherineklein, you consider 1.84 Swiss Francs per liter (which is what I just paid a few hours ago at a Migros gas station outside of Winterthur) to be low gas prices? lol

ABC would sell thier soul to add the O’Rielly-Hannity crowd to thier falling viewership. It seems that transaction is a done deal.

Much like George Bush, the false prophet Senator Obama, twists the truth to his liking.

If 92% of any one ethnic group or race vote for one particular candidate, then you can rest assured issues such as depth of experience, range of knowledge, track record and personal accomplishments played little if any role in their selection. That kind of phenomenon is usually defined as a “mob” or “herd”… which is contrarian to the needs of the many.

A vote for John McCain is a death sentence for thousands of more U.S. troops and innocent Iraqi civilians (CHILDREN, women, and men). You vote for McCain, you will certainly have blood on your hands. When you meet your maker, you will not have the excuse that you didn’t know. You will not be able to hide behind Bush or McCain and blame them for it. With your vote you have sealed your fate. Don’t say you were not warned.
And don’t think that by voting for Hillary you’re clean either. She voted for the war and she’ll say anything to be the next president – she is a corrupt politician.

Obama’s solution to the high prices is to find ways to reduce our use of oil. He proposes higher gas efficiency, and renewable energy.
Hillary’s circular proposal is so wrong NO economist will side with her, and only McCain is with her in the Congress.
One problem with her windfall tax is that she’s already proposed using that for other things, she can’t use it twice.
The other solution Hillary pushes is breaking Opec. When does she think about addressing our need to reduce the oil we use?
Obama is think solving the problem we have with using too much oil, and real solutions. His priority is to reduce our oil usage with better fuel efficency, and investing in research for alternative fuels.

I think that the networks should ban people like Mr. Charlie Gibson after him & George crusified Senator Obama, news people should not show their beliefs just be fair to bothe candidates

Umm…to “character”…yes, you certainly are that. How about Obama himself — not the three other people you mention — be used to represent the character of Barack Obama? Novel idea?
I would also like a list of your lifelong associations, to — as you do — use it to determine your “character.” Now isn’t that silly?

Donny: prove it!

Food prices go up, so we throw more money at farmers (including huge subsidies for NOT growing food). Gasoline prices go up and we decide we need to tax oil companies more? This doesn’t make any sense. US oil companies made less than 8% profit last year. That is not huge. The price of gasoline is not due to the big bad gasoline companies but due to rising demand for petroleum worldwide, a drop in value of the dollar, high US taxes on gasoline, and US government mandated ethanol. Sadly, both Obama and Clinton are either too simple-minded or too politically motivated to do anything other than demonize oil companies.

The ad pointed to says “More low road attacks from Hillary Clinton”, and references the New York Times.
This is referring to the NYTimes article “The Low Road to Victory”, which criticizes Hillary’s negative attacks.
This is not a reference to Krugman’s article.

Oh…hold on, dora. Now it seems to me you’re supporting Obama…I…was a bit confused with your post…

Hey, your average American will drive out of their way and wait in line just to buy gas that’s 5 cents cheaper than the gas station across the street. Obama just doesn’t get that. We’ll buy gas at the cheapest gas station and then go inside the gas station convenience store and spend double the regular price on some snacks and a soda.

Being a journalist doesn’t mean never having to say you’re sorry. But it does mean you get to say you’re sorry five days late in a one paragraph article that will get scant notice.
But, hey, no skin off my back. Obama tackles Clinton’s and McCain’s plan but offers up nothing of his own. Just “change”!

This is the “new” politics and “new” washington. He lied when he was first asked about wright, his instinct was to lie. No surprise about his campaign.

Krugman is never quoted in the ad personally. There were several opinions expressed on the day shown that were critical of Clinton under the headline indicated. Krugman has nothing to worry about. By the way, now that his favorite, Edwards,(and mine) has endorsed Obama, will the brilliant Mr. Krugman follow suit?