Muted Clinton Preaches Unity, Claims Indiana Victory
ABC News’ Kate Snow and Eloise Harper Report: Flanked by her husband and daughter, Hillary Clinton thanked Indiana voters for their support Tuesday and pledged to continue on to West Virginia, Oregon, Kentucky and beyond.
But she was not the relentlessly upbeat Clinton of victory’s past. And in contrast to other primary night parties, Bill Clinton stood unsmiling behind her for much of the speech.
Sen. Clinton, D-N.Y., again asked voters to continue to support her financially, dropping the name of her website.
"Tonight, once again, I need your help to continue our journey," she said.
Clinton pledged to "never stop fighting for you" but faced with a decisive Obama victory in North Carolina and uncertain results in Indiana, she also seemed to concede the possibility that she might not become the eventual nominee.
"People are watching this race and they’re wondering . . . I win, he wins, I win, he wins . . . it’s so close. That says a lot about how passionate our supporters are . . . but I can assure you that no matter what happens I will work for the nominee of the Democratic party," she said.
On Wednesday, Clinton will hold meetings in Washington with undecided superdelegates. The campaign says those meetings were scheduled several days ago. But at this critical juncture, they could prove pivotal.
Clinton called the campaign thus far a "journey" that "has been a blessing to me".
And now, she said, it’s "on to West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon and other states where people are eager to have their voices heard."
"I’m going to work my heart out in West Virginia and Kentucky this month and I intend to win them in November," Clinton said.
Again, she suggested that even if she were not the nominee, the Democrat on the ticket would be best for the White House.
"I want the people in these upcoming states to know we’re going to work hard to reach out to all of you. Because we want you to know the Democratic party is your party and a Democratic president would be best for you," Clinton said.
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Sen Clinton,
No matter you win or lose, we never leave you and we appreciate very much your hard work.
If you are not the nominee, I’d stay home.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 6, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
I watched the speech and she was great. She was not muted at all!
Posted by: MELISSA | May 6, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
I have never been so disappointed in the US as I am tonight. How Obama has snowed so many people is frightening!
Posted by: BobNC | May 6, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
The reporter is being deceptive. Bill did not smile because he was emotional and trying to not show it :) He looked very proud!
Posted by: MELISSA | May 6, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I will support Clinton until the end.
Posted by: Sam | May 6, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
“Democratic president would be best for you, Clinton said” Not with liberal and unexperience Dem candidate, majority people think.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 6, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
i am so afraid of what obama will do to america that i will be forced to vote mccain.
Posted by: Josh | May 6, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
I watched her speech too. She was great and Bill Clinton was smiling behind her all the way through.
Posted by: zhengli | May 6, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
I love Hillary Clinton! I hope the super delegates can see who would win in November…Clinton
Posted by: Mike | May 7, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
BobNC it aint over yet!
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
How predictable. Even before pleading for more money, Hils serves up a big, fat lie.
She quoted Obama as saying that Indiana would be the “tiebreaker” primary, when in fact Obama said it might be. Big difference. Especially when the actual tiebreaker was in NC, and Obama was the winner.
Just tack it on her list of lies (sniper fire) and absurd populist panderings (gas tax holiday – wheee!) that her low-information minions seem to lack the mental faculties to see through.
Posted by: balthus | May 7, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Clinton has been attacked over and over again in this race, not only by Obama but by the press. Obama will crumble against McCain.
I dislike McCain but despise Obama. Save us from this racist.
If not Clinton then McCain for sure 08
Posted by: EmilyW | May 7, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Obama is an underdog. He has to listen to those who give hime money and they are big companies and big health insurance companies. He is more white than white. I will stay home if Hillary does not win the nomination.
Posted by: tammy manh | May 7, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
These folks are NOT Democrats, no more than the people who voted for McCain were Republicans. Hilliary and McCain have the same welfare/warfare statist base irrespective of political party. No wonder if one loses they are more than willing to vote for the other. Maybe Limbaugh has been pointing this out to us in plain sight all along, and we just didnt know it… It couldn’t be, could it???
Posted by: blog | May 7, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
OBAMA IS THE NEW HOPE FOR THE FUTURE!!!
HILARY SHOWED HER TRUE COLORS IN THIS RACE AND I WOULD RATHER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN THAN TO VOTE FOR HER. SHE IS DECEITFUL, UNTRUSTWORTHY, AND A BIG LIAR.
Posted by: SUNSHINE | May 7, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
If her name was “Hillary Smith” instead of CLINTON no one would even give her a second look! She had the backing of her husband a 2 term president and the entire Democratic party and she came up short!
Posted by: Leo | May 7, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Obama couldnt even carry a state adjacent to his home state with the majority of its voters watching Chicago TV. He needed a decisive win in IN and NC and he didnt get it. The race continues!
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Give Obama a chance! He is uplifting and inspiring. Exactly what this county needs to lift up the American reputation around the world. Clinton is divisive and you can see those supporting her doing all they can to tear the party apart. Sore losers determined to drag the Democratic party down with them. Good job.
Posted by: JoeSimon | May 7, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
The entire dem party does not support Clinton… only the centrists do and we are fighting hard to get control again. Unfortunately, the black voters and the Republicans interfering along with young politically naive immature voters are being manipulated by the liberal wing who will do anything to keep control… they stacked the deck with the primary schedules and breaking their own rules.
Posted by: mixed-american | May 7, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Clinton will say anything to get elected. Do you really think she can relate to the poor workers? She or Bill will get another book deal and make millions more. She thinks she’s entitled to the presidency by just being a Clinton. Time for Change.
Posted by: SamWise | May 7, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Obama and his minions are divisive. Clinton said she will support whomever the nominee is. Obama only says he will support democrats. That means he will support others and not Clinton.
Posted by: mixed-american | May 7, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Huckabee could have stuck around and tore down support for McCain, but he didn’t. He put the good of the GOP ahead of his own personal desires. Clinton’s selfishness will end up costing the Democrats in the end. She never wanted Kerry to win in 2004 and now that she will not win the nomination, she is determined to torpedo Obama.
Posted by: Sonny | May 7, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Huckabee could have stuck around and tore down support for McCain, but he didn’t. He put the good of the GOP ahead of his own personal desires. Clinton’s selfishness will end up costing the Democrats in the end. She never wanted Kerry to win in 2004 and now that she will not win the nomination, she is determined to torpedo Obama.
Posted by: Sonny | May 7, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Let us unite behind the nominee, be it Hillary or Obama. God Bless America
Posted by: Ben | May 7, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
I’m extremely disappointed that 92% blacks voted for Obama. Bill and Hillary worked their hearts out for blacks in the past, and now blacks just turned around to vote for their race regardless of whether or not Obama can be a good president! This guy can’t be elected, at least not now. He needs to be tested for another 8 years and gain more experience.
I’ll not vote this fall if Hillary is not the nominee. Sorry, Obama, you have lost my vote. As far as I know, there are many Hillary supporters who will not vote for you. You will not become the president because of many things.
Posted by: Wendy | May 7, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Whoosh!!!! That is the sound of millions of life long democrats defecting to John McCain.
Posted by: annonymous | May 7, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Sen Obama never made the case he will make the better president than Hillary.
However, he ran a much better campaign . Campaigning is the way we nominate the person to run for president. Not who is the better person to be president.
Obama has earned it, Clinton dropped the ball after super tuesday.
But Obama needs to concede 3 things.
- pay off Hillarys campaign debt
- give President Clinton free BBQ for the rest of his life -and pay for the medical bills that he will rack up because of it.
- Give healthcare over to Hillary in his administration . This was her cause. He should be man enough to let her do it.
If he agrees to all this, she needs to drop out.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
You can win the battle but lose the war. The war between McCain and Obama will be ugly I predict and John McCain will win because no one questions he loves America. Hillary never really went after Obama and she could have–now the DNC will try to kiss up to her supporters– forget it–my vote is McCain and it will not change. So sorry Mrs. Clinton–I still hope you can pull out the nomination–but the DNC is against you.
Posted by: annonymous | May 7, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Obama/Claire McCaskill 08!!!
Posted by: Mike Denhof | May 7, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Clinton didnt really go after Obama because she is a true democrat who stands for all the voters. She has bailed him out several times to help him not look so bad. He double-crossed her by running in the first place when he himself said he was not qualified because the big bucks from the liberals backed him and manipulated him just like he did in IL.. dirty politics. He is a disgrace to America just like Ted Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, Leahy, and Dean.
Posted by: mixed-american | May 7, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Obama proved how much of a Republican he is… money talks and they bought him lock stock and barrel.
Posted by: mixed-american | May 7, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
The sad thing in this race is Democrats are worst than republicans. What I mean to say is republicans do not care wheather you are blue or green as long as you are a republican they will vote for you. Democrats have more prejudice. The plantation mentality is over. It is OK to support Obama or Hillary. Whomever the winner I will vote for him or her. Democrats that dare to vote for McBush are not democrats. They are supporting Bush’s third tirm. They do not care about the war, universal health care.
Posted by: Simieno | May 7, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Why don’t you report the fact that the Lake County district held their reporting back which really forced the Clinton campaign to not claim a victory here though they probably have won. This is really a nasty political move by an Obama supporter to try and steal someones thunder. Change…WRIGHT!
Posted by: nidula | May 7, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Lots of discussion among leaders in IN about the voting tally issues. Mayors are claiming they turned in votes hours ago and they dont know why the numbers are not coming in. I just heard them say it appears something corrupt may be happening and there will be investigations.
Posted by: mixed-american | May 7, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Can people please stop with the if you vote McCain you were never really a democrat??? You are just worried because, yes, we REALLY are democrats and you need us and think your insults will bring us back. I MAKE UP MY OWN MIND and my mind and money will be on McCain if HRC leaves. You can have your caucus winning candidate.
Posted by: texasdemocrat | May 7, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
I will always support senator Clinton, I will vote Mcain in November if OB is a nominee. I just donate her $50 to keep her going no matter what is outcome of this primary selection. AA is racist and they vote for him 92%.
Posted by: stephanie | May 7, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Go man go Obama 08 God bless do come in south africa to see us .we have ur eyes on you the son of soil.yes the American people can yes the whole world can. Change we can believe in Obama 08
Posted by: Hannah | May 7, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
The projections are finally in – Clinton won IN. Now we need the investigation into the actual vote tally to make sure she is not being rooked into losing delegates she earned. IN officials stated there will be investigations. Aint it funny the county that held back had a mayor who supports Obama and it borders Chicago?
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Thank God she won Indiana. Now can we get to the truth behind Rev. Wright, the whole thing was a set-up by Obama camp right?? To make Wright look crazy so Obama could disown. I think his campaign thinks everyone is so stupid. If it was his ego or HRC, Wright would still be out there, instead he disappeared.
Posted by: hello america | May 7, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
The DNC is so elitist!!!!!
Posted by: DNC | May 7, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Ok, say Obama becomes the nominee and you passionately support Clinton. Then Clinton asks you to please back Obama and you don’t vote for him. Aren’t you, in essence turning your back on Hillary at that point? I think most of the “Hillary” supporters in this discussion are actually those sad “Rush” tricksters.
Posted by: Chris | May 7, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Indiana’s voting was all screwed up. Requiring the licenses and closing most polls at 6. What if you work until then? For crying out loud, it’s Tuesday! Hillary won IN by only 22,000 votes. Barack creamed her in NC.
Posted by: Chris Senn | May 7, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
There was never any question that Obama would win NC. But the margin was not near as big as he projected. The exit polls are telling in NC. He has lost appeal to rural America in PA, TX, OH, NC, and IN. These voters are a must for a win in the GE. Negative points for him on electability.
She doesnt have a “black voter problem”… he is the problem with all his divisiveness prompted by black separatist Michelle. The party can help heal that rift and the polls are showing half the black voters would support her. In fact, of the Obama supporters, only 17% would stay home and 21% would vote for McCain. But of the Clinton supporters, 33% would vote for McCain. He has a major problem with core democrats meaning he has more negative points on electability.
As for the races today, go back to what he said earlier: She would win PA – and she did. He would win NC – and he did. IN would be a tiebreaker – and it just might be her momentum to carry! We will find out in the remaining races.
We still dont know who won Guam and now there will be some investigations in IN. Let’s hope the liberals and the colorofchange folks are not successful in manipulating more SD’s before the count is in. If they do, be sure to check the list to see who endorsed who so we can vote them out of office for fixing the election. Remember, the DNC violated the rules, propped Obama up and gave him money and the strategy to rook voters out of money they should have used for meds and food, disenfranchised FL, and stacked the deck to favor Obama with liberal and caucus state voting occuring first. The DNC is corrupt.
Posted by: DCVoter | May 7, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
All things being equal I think Sen Clinton should stay in and not give up anything Obama got 91 percent of the vote in NC and whites are still overwelmingly voting for Hillary … I dont think Hillary should accept a VP nomination but as it stands Obama will be forced to offer it to her!
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
To the poster who indicated Obama can’t even win the state adjacent to his home state…let’s see…Hillary is an Illinois native and let’s see..she certainly didn’t win her HOME STATE!!!
Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
staniam: Rough night? I told you last week that Obama would seal things up tonight….should have listened.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Obama has a lot to offer. I’ll give him a chance. He’s really pretty darn good. We can’t continue the Bush people and doctrine with McCain. Only a Democratic president cares about: The banking & hedge fund industry needs serious regulation overhauls; courage enough to set a goal for new fuel sources in a decade; health care prices and insurance that equals what other countries enjoy. No, I don’t want a Republican.
Posted by: Sallie | May 7, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Obama fooled me, hoodwinked me, bamboozled me, he is a liar and a cheat. I pray the superdelegates wright the wrong.
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
Melissa: your prayers will not be answered.
Posted by: ron | May 7, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Before Wright story, I think I can vote for Clinton/Obama or possible Obama/Clinton ticket. But for sure that I will vote for John McCain now.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Clinton hasnt lived in IL for years but Obama is its current Senator (sic). She won PA, OH, TX, NY, and AR (all states she has lived in for significant periods). Try using real facts and not Republican spin.
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
What’s really changed? They were about 150 apart in delegates before the primaries, and with the apportioning of delegates per DNC rules – they’re what -160 apart?! Nothing has really changed -
SuperD’s would do better to look at the exit polls showing that almost 50% of HRC supporters won’t vote for Obama …
Posted by: Dennis | May 7, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Tom
Hillary shouldnt and likely wont go away you thought it would be a knockout but since she won IN even by a little you have to deal with her and Im not going to argue with you its beneath me
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
It doesn’t matter anymore Hillary wins or loses.
She is the winner.
Obama stole the votes in IN tonight.
It’s all over the news.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 7, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Obama/McCaskill? Oh yeah! Two people with only 2 years in the senate.
LOL.
Posted by: Jo | May 7, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Dennis: You forgot the fact that Obama has added 210,000 to his popular vote.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Hillary, stay in all the way!
Posted by: Jo | May 7, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Staniam – there is no doubt the DNC is corrupt and fighting corruption is a difficult task. She continues the fight for the core democrats as she should do. As for her supporters here on this thread.. I see plenty. :)
The DNC will likely continue its corrupt ways in election fraud since all of the people in control have a clear record of doing so. Between Obama’s learning of election fraud Chicago style and what they have taught him, it looks like they tried to steal IN too. Guam appears to possibly have wrongdoings as well and only Obama had an office there with 3 paid staffers. With the evidence of fraud in so many state caucuses and possible attempts to manipulate the vote tally in IN today, there is no way I will pay the DNC any of my money. I will remain Independent and support Clinton.
Posted by: DCVoter | May 7, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Dennis
thats right! how about them saying well… there is only a 9 delegate advantage for Clinton in Pa well in NC guess what same thing for the O-man I refuse to put up with tryingt o grind people into submittance like that Obama has a problem with Whites older voters and women and even she won the men tonight so this half of the party will not give up to him Id say unless the VP is guaranteed for Hillary but Obama couldnt handle that
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
blue Irish: All over FOX “News”?
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Tom – they were about 2% off before, still about 2-3%.
Posted by: Dennis | May 7, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Even Clinton has given up, cancelling all of her T.V. appearances tomorrow.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Tom – they were about 2% off before on the popular vote, still about 2-3%.
Posted by: Dennis | May 7, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
TOm
what you were looking for and what all commentators on the networks tonight were breathless about was the Obama comeback in IN and it didnt happen and tyes there are disputes in Guma so I recommend you not try to strong arm Hillary people because Obama will not get elected without us
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Hello everybody,
Why on this blog nobody knows what is going on now?
It’s been 2 hours, Obama tried to steal Hillary’s vote in 1 county, IN.
It’s on CNN, Foxnews.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 7, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Dennis: Please explain…I don’t understand what you said.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
staniam: Hillary can take Guam…no matter what the scenario they both get two delegates…as far as I’m concerned Obama won IN simply because polls released yesterday showed Clinton up by 8 in the state.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Tom – w/the splits in popular vote in Indiana and NC, Obama’s gain of 210K votes results in his being 2.2% over HRC’s popular vote count. [See RealClear for updated numbers]. If I’m remembering correctly, BO lead was about 2% last week.
Posted by: Dennis | May 7, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
The nastiness of Obama’s supporters towards Hillary has sealed the deal of not getting them to support Obama if he is the nominee. It would be like being forced to join a gang for the common good. I appreciate Hillary’s determination for a Democratic nominee but her followers will not join her with Obama. He is not the caliber of person they see as a president.
Posted by: dgh | May 7, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
I like Obama because he has such a nice family. I remember there was a constant stream of ex-mistresses coming forward to sue, or write a book, when Clinton was president–also he had an affair in the White House–I want a good guy, a good family man as president–that man is Obama.
Posted by: Sallie | May 7, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
did anyone stop to realize that Indiana was an open primary state….meaning that republicans can vote as well…that should say a lot right there. according to all dem polls previous to the primary, hillary had a good, sometimes commanding lead in the state. looks like the republicans were in there voting for obama! they don’t want to face hillary in november! hang in there hillary!!!
Posted by: carlasue | May 7, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
Tom,
All news, CNN too.
Go to the other blog of Political Radar, about GORE: race will be settled before the convention.
All the bloggers are talking about it.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 7, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
Guam matters because it has 5 SD’s. The pledged delegate count may change by one after the recount and investigation but the SD’s have not all weighed in because of the problem with the election. Every delegate counts and every voter should be heard.
Posted by: DCVoter | May 7, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
If you remember, McCain has been married twice. But Obama has a great marriage (first one) and a great family. That’s character.
Posted by: Sallie | May 7, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
let all the votes count! the DNC needs to wake up and let FL and MI voices be heard!
Posted by: carlasue | May 7, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
DCVoter
thats right..was that Gary,IN mayor auditioning for his close-up tonight or what! I guess chicago style kneecap poltics is what we have to endure but the fact is they cant win without Hilary voters and real Democrats are not voting for him!
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
I still cannot believe it, she won Indiana, I thought for sure the way the trend was going she would lose at the end. Hillary 2008 or McCain 2008 (McCain only ’cause I have no choice). Am I the only one who thinks the left side of the democratic party is going to blow it again for all democrats???
Posted by: bane | May 7, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Popular vote will change anyway with Clinton wins in KY and WV so he may have edged up in popular vote for now because of black voters but the remaining states do not have many black voters. He has a significant problem with whites and rural voters now as seen in 6 large state elections now.
Posted by: DCVoter | May 7, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
The funny thing is that after Obama won Guam, a Clinton supporter on this blog was complaining that Florida and MI weren’t being counted and therefore Guam shouldn’t either….apparently now Guam actually does matter.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Carlasue
on the way back from Canvassing today I heard the report that the new magic number is 2300 not 2025 they can will and should make it as difficult as possible for Gov Dean who bought into this fiasco!
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
DCVOTER: I hate to tell you this, but Obama’s wins in OR MT and SD will cancel out any gains made in KY and WV with the popular vote.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
DCVoter
yea the media was playing down that scenario tonight too but she iw projected to win in WVA with 65 percent as of now so how can that not up her popular vote/delegate count
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Obama is now 750,000 votes ahead of Clinton.
Posted by: rachel | May 7, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Some awfully bitter comments from the Clintonistas despite the writing on the wall since Ohio/Texas.
She has not had a realistic chance since that time to win the nomination, and tonight was just the culmination of the inevitable. Barack Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee. I am personally looking forward to the General Election and a spirited debate.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 7, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Sallie – 2 words. Larry Sinclair. 2 more. Filed lawsuit. Doubt his story is true, but people tend to come out of the woodwork w/all sorts of stories when someone gets famous. Happens to everyone, will happen to Obama.
Posted by: Dennis | May 7, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
TOm Hilary will win OR its goingt o be back and forth and will be taken to the convention and you all cannot win without Hillary support or supporters
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
staniam, yes, and the supers need to see how hillary has commanded the states that count the most in the GE as far as the electoral count goes.
we do not need a bigot, a liar, and an associate of the criminal rattso to lead this country.
hillary has the stronghold on the blue collar working middle class. obama does not!
Posted by: carlasue | May 7, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
staniam: I hate to tell you this, but WV only has 28 delegates…little to no difference considering they split them.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Isn’t Puerto Rico winner take all?
If Hillary won it would quite a few.
Posted by: dgh | May 7, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Texvoter
do not try to draw out the Clinton voters by insults you cannot win without us and we dont have to support Obama whioh means he will not be elected
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
staniam: Funny how the last poll showed Obama up 51% to 38%. Oregon is special because they vote by mail, and have been able to vote now since early May. Oregon is a far-left state and we all know Clinton doesn’t win those. The funny thing is I heard that Obama’s campaign is going to seal this thing up on May 20 when OR votes.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
This contest was over a long time ago. I am simply stating the facts.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 7, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Dear Obama-haters,
Give credit where it is due! BO is a class act who has outperformed and is consistently leading a race against a former prez and his wife.Come on, this is a free country. If you feel so insulted that a blk man can be president of this country, then the problem is with you, and not BO.
Gobama!
Posted by: snofyr | May 7, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Melissa
reminds me of the two for one thing that the Clintons talked about in the first election .. the Obamas are repeating what the Clintons did then they are getting along for poltical expediency!
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
tom you have no clue how electoral votes work… DCVoter’s posts were not about delegates. They are about electability which is what Dean said the party has to consider. DCVoter is right… the exit polls show Obama has lost points in the electability argument with the outcome of tonight’s elections. If the trend continues with him not getting much support from rural and core democrats, he cant beat McCain without Clinton. She could beat them both in the GE if she went Independent.
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
melissa, you are right. i have read the same things as you have about michelle being hacked off at obama because of the attention to ‘other women.’ however, i don’t give a crap about that, i ain’t married to him, or bill for that matter. what counts is someone who has the ability, experience and knowledge to run this country. so so many people who got to vote early and who voted for obama in early primaries wish with all their hearts they could take their vote back after seeing who he really is.
Posted by: carlasue | May 7, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Puerto Rico is not winner take all.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Tex voter you can use whatever facts you want but the one premise remains that you cannot win without Clinton voters so it looks like you have a big problem
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Hillary may get support from rural voters, but during the general election they always vote REPUBLICAN.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Here’s the real deal.
Clinton’s mantra is “do whatever you’ve got to do to win. But it needs to stop when you are in the WH.” The Republicans don’t have the extra line-not that it is really followed. Clinton knows she is a politician, and acts like one. She was still very intelligent woman, had the most detailed policy plans-but poor judgement in campaigning. After GW, the dirt was so evident now, people need a little break from it-that is why Obama is ahead-he wants to be a gentleman. The Wright episode doesn’t hurt him so much-who doesn’t have the crazy uncle at the barbeque? Obama’s tactics might be less brutal, but he has the money and base to overwhelm the Rove’s, pundits…FOX news like an ocean wave. Who isn’t honestly tired of all the spin, lies, garbage (from both sides?)
Our country is suffering. People dying on bridges, dying in flooded cities, overseas, losing their houses, savings..our livelihoods evaporating to the Chinese, our money being devalued, the debt doubling, on and on…but the majority cannot rely on the billionaires or the politicians to fix this mess-they are doing fine. We must demand fair elections, a fair money and tax system, and get rid of these cable news “shows” that just misinform.
Posted by: Joe | May 7, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
DCVoter – Clinton on an Independent ticket works for me! On that note, work comes early. For all you divisive Obama supporters, nothing you can say will every make me support Obama. A Clinton/Obama ticket might make me support her. Clinton/Edwards sounds better. LOL
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Tom – W/70%+ disapproval ratings to Bush, even Republicans don’t want another Republican president right now! Problem is when you’re choosing b/w centrist/strong on natl defense vs Repub, the centrist wins. When the vote is liberal/lets all get along vs Repub, the Repub wins.
Posted by: Dennis | May 7, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Melissa,DCVoter,Carlasue
I saw we draft Hillary for an Indepentnt run because people forget that Clinton won the first time by 42-38 percent in 92 if Perot was serious he wouldve won!
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Obama polls 12 points better than McCain, so I don’t believe your point is even remotely valid.
If you remember, the Republican Party was severely divided before McCain won the nomination. They are united behind McCain, albeit it is soft support in some corners of the party. Do you really believe the Democrats will not unite behind Obama now that he has won the nomination? Really?
Again, I get that all Clinton fans are disappointed and bitter at this inevitable result, but your statement has no basis in fact and has no historical reference to even back it up.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 7, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
staniam: Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you the one who said confidently last week that Clinton would beat Obama in NC because she had momentum?
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
Texvoter
no sir Mccain his ahead of Obama in national polls now and the CLinton people will not go with Obama no matter what!
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
Tom
not with obama getting 91 percent of the black vote and I will say again Clinton voters will not vote for Obama and he needs us its that simple
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Obama is ahead in the polls over Mccain. He beats him 51% to 40% according to CNN/MSNBC.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Tom
that is only one poll out of 10 I saw this week havign mccain ahead you can argue all you want your guy will not win the presidencey the Clinton voters will not be demeaned by you period
Posted by: staniam | May 7, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Tom wrote: “Hillary may get support from rural voters, but during the general election they always vote REPUBLICAN.”
I think it should be: “Obama may get support from rural voters, but during the general election they always vote REPUBLICAN.” So far, Obama only can win in caucus, small and Red States during primary. Without support from middle and working class in big states and with winner take all and no caucus in general election, McCain will win definitely.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Look Obama fans. Some arguments make sense and other do not. This ‘dynasty’ arguement makes no sense. They still have to get elected . They still have to campaign blah blah blah.
The fact is, there inst a SINGLE pundit out there who has said Obama is the BETTER candidate to run against Mc Cain.
Not since bitter gate and wright.
However, you have to WIN the nomination to run for president.
-Hillary is the better candidate for president . She is better for america.
-Obama is the better CAMPAIGNER. He ran a better campaigner and deserves the nomination.
So lets all of us Clinton supporters take our hats off to Senator Obama.
I really do like him, even though I also honestly believe Mc Cain has a better chance against Obama.
I will note vote for mc Cain. Why? Out of loyalty to Obama and the democrats? No.
Cause Bill and Hillary will tell us to vote for Obama? NO.
I wont vote for Mc Cain because he is an IDIOT and still keeps trying to campaign on George Bush’s platform……
which we can ALL agree on , SUCKS !!!!!
If Mc cain tries to beat obama on a a traditional republican platform he will get CRUSHED.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
staniam: It’s so funny how you keep on saying he won’t win….and yet he does. LOL!!
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
SO MANY GOOD COMMENTS HERE ABOUT THE SAD STATE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I CAN NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA…..
MY VOTE WILL GO TO MCCAIN……….
AND I KNOW I AM JUST ONE OF MILLIONS…………….
Posted by: j | May 7, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
stock_craft: Take a look at how Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, and NC voted by county. Obama won every single populated place. Clinton won the areas where there’s only a gas station and “nice folks.”
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Black voters are only 17% of the country and they dont have much of an impact in more than a few states with electoral power. We dont have any significance in the GE without the democratic party core. We seem to forget we dont elect Presidents by popular vote. We were bamboozled!!!!
Posted by: MELISSA | May 7, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
staniam: I have no clue where you came up with that one….all those angry tears must be blurring your thought process.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Unfortunately, those counties do not represent the entired United States because more than 90% residents are black Americans.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Melissa: Funny…according to the Clintons the popular vote matters.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
I just don’t see the “I won’t vote for the other person because my candidate lost.” threat being much of a… well.. threat.
Again, I know you’re pretty bummed right now, but let me just end this right now:
Here are some quotes from Clinton’s concession-like speech tonight:
“I want the people in these upcoming states to know we’re going to work hard to reach out to all of you. Because we want you to know the Democratic party is your party and a Democratic president would be best for you,”
“I will work hard for the Democratic Nominee in the upcoming general election…”
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 7, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
JERAMIAH WRIGHT 08′
A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR THE RADICALISM OF WRIGHT AND OBAMA’S OTHER RACIST ASSOCIATES……..
GO OBAMA/WRIGHT 08′
WAKE UP PEOPLE, DON’T BE BLIND!
Posted by: ? | May 7, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
if obama gets the nom (by some miracle) i will do all i can to see that hillary’s name still appears on the damn ballot, as an independent or whichever. as i have said in earlier posts, there are so many voters who in early primaries voted for obama and now regret it…..now that they know who he really is.
Posted by: carlasue | May 7, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
stock_craft: The research triangle in NC has African-Americans? The suburbs of Philly are populated with them? Evansville, IN is their home? I doubt it.
Posted by: tom | May 7, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Have any of you here ever heard of Franklin Roosevelt??? The things he did for all Americans is the reason why I am a democrat. He helped working Americans. The DNC cannot win without the working class and the working class seems to not like Obama…HRC has actually been pretty easy on Obama. Hillary 2008 or McCain 2008….Good Night.
Posted by: so what | May 7, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Tom, popular votes might matter in Primary but not in General Election. In 2000 Al Gore had won popular votes but lost the electoral votes to G. Bush.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
obama has no plans…..just talk. and funny how one put hillary’s speech tonight as ‘concession’. maybe she was just tired. that seemed to work for obama earlier when the rev. wright caught up to him….and reality. works both ways.
Posted by: carlasue | May 7, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Hillary is the better candidate and better president.
But Obama ran a better campaign and deserves the nomination.
Lets give credit where it is due.
I think she should drop out now. She wont be president in 2009.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Obama will win or lose on his own merits. The Democratic Party will close ranks the same way the Republican Party have already closed ranks behind McCain.
The General Election will hinge on the Independent Voters and the moderates on both sides. Again, I look forward to seeing how these two candidates go after those voters.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 7, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Tom, I don’t want to argue with you any one because you seem like the one never want to open your mind and listen to the fact. Believe it or not, the same people who voted against John Kerry (moral votes) in 2004 will come back as patriot votes to vote against your hero, Senator Obama. As a citizen, I have done enough to support Hillary but look like she will lose and not much I can do but stopping posting and vote for John McCain or stay home on November 04 if Hillary drops out.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
good job mrs clinton. for me it is either hillary or mccain all the way, no doubt about it. tonight on cnn mrs brazile (sp?) appeared to suggest that obama can win wihtout us centrists or hispanics- alluding to a new coalition. we will see come november.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 7, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
No, they’ve alienated YOU. The majority of the party will be just fine, and even Hillary herself has said she would work hard for Obama.
Again, I know you’re bitter, but saying the Party is split just because you’re angry doesn’t hold much water. Even the words of your candidate tonight run contrary to your bitter, divisive comments.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 7, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
Tomdavie, I think you misunderstand me. So far, I means Obama can only win and mostly win in the counties (not the country) where 90% are black America. Please correct me if I am wrong again.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
hey bob-texas voter sure is thin skinned. i feel uncomfortable with indiana results especially since the deciding county (second largest in the state) is the one bordering illinois…and the one that held up results until all the other votes were in. i mean what were they waiting for?
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 7, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
hey may-i am a hillary supporter absolutely. but your comment about obama is not cool.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 7, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
You know, why don’t you Hillary fans tell me one good thing that she has done. Now shes talking about a forced health care policy. Do you know what that would do to a low wage workers pay check. Im sure the big business health care industry is just waiting to clean up when Hillary becomes president. Go Hillary!
Posted by: Michael M | May 7, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
bob that is my feeling as well. i find it ironic that the left wing of the party is supporting obama. i mean wright articulated every position they believe to the letter and obama threw him under the bus when he no longer needed him.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 7, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
The party needs to rally around Obama.
There is no point in fighting amongst ourselves anymore.
I believe Hillary is the better nominee. But lets face it, Obama ran a far better campaign. He earned the nomination.
So lets rally around him and defeat John Mc Cain.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Clinton supporters.
I am one of the biggest Clinton supporters.
All these talking points are TRUE about Obama. He has become weaker. He inst the same candidate he was back in february.
But all of this came TOO LATE.
And its Hillarys own fault for running a lousy campaign after super tuesday.
They are not going to overturn the nomination because Hillary got behind in delegates.
She needed a game breaker and didnt get it.
I think the super delegates need to come out for Obama tomorrow and lets rally the party around him.
It sucks for me as a Clinton supporter, but lets not rain on Obamas parade. He earned it.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
hey tomdavie; as a hispanic i have no problem with mccain. his policies on immigration are fair. on many occasions while living in phx 3 years ago before he announced his bid for the presidency he risked loosing the support of his own party by advocating for humane treatment of immigrants while recognizing the need for secure borders. obama on the other hand did not even metion us during his race speech.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 7, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
Hey ” look how far we have come with all the EXPERIENCE that Bush & the Clintons have given us. I think we need someone that don’t know how to steal from the American people yet. Look how far bush has gotten us. He blew up the twin towers so his friend could collect 7 billion, and then get us into a war for oil. Now Hillary wants to bomb Iran. Go Hillary.
Posted by: Michael M | May 7, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Bush and the Clintons have put this country 9 trillion in debt. Now tell me about all the EXPERIENCE that the first lady has. I just don’t get you people. Do you care about your country, or is it that you just hate black people. Go Hillary.
Posted by: Michael M | May 7, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
Clinton won despite the rampant fraud and attempts of Obama to steal it. Lake County proved what many of us have known all along — Obama is an illegitimate candidate who has cheated his way thus far.
Way to go Hillary. Keep fighting, no matter how much they whine and complain and try to downplay your victory. You won in his own backyard despite his efforts to cheat.
Posted by: jb | May 7, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
when blacks were voting overwhelmingly for white in years past they were not called names..now that they are voting for Obama they are now characterized as racist, among other things..Let me ask you a question..Are the working class whites who have been voting overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton racists? The fact is that Blacks have been the most loyal Democratic voter through the years..when white Democrats would flip flop from party to party(some of you are planning on doing that if Obama is the nominee)..that is the reason why George Bush was able to beat Gore..some of you Democrats voted for the consumer guy(can’t remember his name right now) and split the vote. Were it not for the black vote Bill Clinton would not have gotten two terms. Blacks were his biggest supporters and forgave him for his indiscretions when some of you White democrat jumped from the party and voted Republican. I am voting democrat regardless who the nominee is..be it Obama or Hillary..because I am a true Democrat. I would have to be blind,deaf or dumb to vote McCain and continue the failed policies of the Republican administration..policies based on war and low taxes for the rich. So True Democrats vote for the Democrat nominee..spineless so called democrat jump ship and vote Republican.
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee then I and my entire family will be voting for John McCain. We need an alternative…why can’t she run as an Independent?
Posted by: Tony | May 7, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am
Tony, who are you trying to fool? You are Republican..you are not a true Democrat. McCain! what a joke. You are probably one of the people who think that the economy is great and gas is 75cents a gallon. Somebody is serving some kool aid out there is confusing some people’s minds..I am confused how people could consider McCain as an alternative..when all he would do is simply continue the Republican policies of war,war, war. Those policies are going to run the country’s economy into the ground. I love my country too much to vote for McCain.
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
Stanium, can you please educate me and possibly others on what qualifies one to be president of the USA?
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
I AM WITH YOU HILLARY TILL THE END!
PLEASE CONTINUE FIGHTING FOR US !
YOU WILL BE THE BEST PRESIDENT !
I WILL GO FOR MC CAIN IF OB is the nomenee/
Posted by: Arion | May 7, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am
I haven’t heard Clinton’s speech yet but I’m glad she is preaching unity and give her credit for it. The fact is this contest was over a very long time ago. Clinton cannot win without destroying the Democratic party – getting the DNC to show that its rules mean nothing or getting the superdelegates to show that our votes mean nothing; that has been true for months. The fact that Bill and Hilary have been allowed to try their best to damage the Democrat in the lead says a lot about the weakness of the party the Clintons defined for the last twenty years, it was a fiefdom bound to individuals and to winning, not to democratic process or Democratic principles. The existence of super-delegates at all is a glaring example of that.
If the Clintons gradually stand down and if the most zealous of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters decide to support the candidate that has most of the same policy positions, if a decidely different approach to achieving them, than this will have been good for Democrats. Even with the meddling and trouble-making of the neocons. Sometimes a terrible fight is just what a family or group needs to get things that have been festering out into the open and to grow.
Speaking of which if it was not mob mentality that prompted 90% of voters to support the Clintons in the past it sour grapes and pretty nasty to demean those voters now.
Posted by: Progressive Observer | May 7, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
Those of you who vote for McCain deserve what you get. Clinton and Obama have the SAME EXACT POLICIES, save for a minor difference or two that won’t make it through Congress anyway. This isn’t a popularity contest — you’re supposed to vote for the person who has policies that you like, with personality/other traits being the tiebreaker. It doesn’t even matter to me who becomes President — I have a nice 6-figure job, am unaffected by the recession, and have no kids in Iraq.
Go ahead and vote for McCain, and when you lose your job, lose your child, or lose your sanity with his ignorance, you won’t get any sympathy from me because you chose to take revenge rather than use your head.
Posted by: Jane | May 7, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
jane, Well said Jane..well said! at least there is a true democrat with common sense.
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am
Guys. Lets not get carried away. The president does NOT control the economy. This isnt a socialist state.
Obama cannot magically change the economy. But he can put controls on market forces to help it. Lets not get carried away that all our problems will be solved when Obama is president.
He cannot magically beat Al Queda. Or solve the terrible situation in Iraq.
He can start to heal the nation and move things in the right direction. Thats all we can ask.
Again. I ask the Obama supporters to stop mocking the Clinton supporters. They are highly dissapointed , and we cant bring the party together if you rub our faces in it .
We love Bill and Hillary Clinton as much as you love Obama. We need to heal the party and move on to the general election. So you can stop harassing Bill and Hillary Clinton and us Clinton supporters now.
We should all rally behind Obama. If folks are still sore, its just human nature. Give them a while to get over this ‘Im votin for Mc Cain ‘ routine.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am
tomdavie, Well said!
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am
The American People have Spoken, Hillary And Bill Please EXIT The Stage!!
Posted by: Lilcntrydarling | May 7, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
You guys know the real reason Hillary need to drop out of the race after tonight’s performance right? Here goes..Hillary won the state by a very slim margin and in Indiana many Republicans were able to cross and vote in the democrat elections..they all heeded the advice the advice of the Republican talking head(Rush Limbaugh) and voted for Hillary. So when you look at the full picture, Obama did exceptionally well. There goes into the drain the theory that”Obama cannot win the big state”. He won tonight!
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Look.
For all of us Clinton supporters who SWORE we would vote for Mc Cain…..give it a while.
I know we are very dissapointed.
Yes , we cannot understand how a first term senator is the BETTER choice . I still believe Hillary is the best choice of all three of them for the presidency.
However, we have to be honest and NOT discount the fact you have to get NOMINATED to run for president.
Obama won the nomination fair and square. We may blame the media, and we can also blame the idiot Mark Penn amongst others in the Clinton campaign.
But none of it is Obamas fault. Lets not rain on his parade.
If you still feel like John Mc Cain is your man in Nov, then vote for him.
I myself dont think I will, but who knows? All I know for sure is that we need to heal the party now.
Bill and Hillary Clinton need to be put back up to their rightfull place as deeply respected members of the party .
I know Bill and HIllary will fight for Obama all the way until Nov.
I also think obama should offer Clinton a top spot in his administration and turn healthcare over to her.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 7, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am
After all the negative campaigning I’m glad to see Hillary begin to show some class. She really should bow out at this point to show that she really does support the party. She can still do a lot of good in the senate. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | May 7, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am
I believe a survey should be done on all the Hillary democrats who plan to vote for McCain in November..you may discover that they believe that the economy is good, even great and the gas is 75 cents a gallon. We need to find who is selling the kool aid that these people and confiscate it so that they can return to a semblance of normalcy and Vote the democrat. Obama/Hillary 08 to the white house baby!
Posted by: Earl | May 7, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
It looks like the DNC succeeded in stuffing Obama down our throats, screw the party base. It’s McCain for me in the fall, so go McCain!
Posted by: kittyCat | May 7, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
Clinton supporters, if you stay home or vote McCain, you are voting against your own economic interests. Don’t be idiotic. I know you passionately support her as she has branded her self a fighter (with $109M in net worth) and Obama as an elitist (raised by a single mother). You’re being manipulated – but even despite staying in much longer than necessary, the obvious cannot be ignored.
Posted by: Dee | May 7, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am
Earl, I’m a lifelong Democrat but I’ll take my chances with McCain rather than with Rev Wright’s student of hate. Go McCain!
Posted by: kittyCat | May 7, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
Take it to the floor HIll!
Counting 2.3 million democrats in FL and MI its a tie and WV and Kenn are waiting.
You beat him in his own backyard while he outspent you at times 5:1 in Indiana
He can’t win in Nov. Democrats need you to keep going!
Posted by: s.b. | May 7, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
By the way, since when is President of the United States an entry level position?
Obama isn’t qualified and the Republicans will rip him to pieces.
He didn’t win anything other than 90% of the black vote last night.
Dems always win the black vote in a general. he doesnt have the other votes to win.
Posted by: s.b. | May 7, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am
I guess what it boils down to is: experience vs. hope.
I personally have seen enough experience. I’m 50 years old. I’ve seen candidates promise all sorts or things.
I do however feel that perhaps a candidate that hasn’t been told, ” you can’t,” just might find a way.
It won’t happen all at once, but perhaps if we as a nation allow things to change . . . . maybe the vice president could become a person who isn’t hidden in a closet but can continue what his / her president started.
Perhaps it all starts without pessimism. Perhaps the rumors can stop and the work can begin. I know for me, it begins with me. I’m going to give this young man a chance. God knows others haven’t had the foresight to hope. The hope that my generation can be the shining beacon for the world to willingly follow are almost gone.
Perhaps the next generation has it figured out. They can make a difference. They took a one term Senator and brought him to the pinnacle of politics. He has faced one of the most powerful political forces in America today and has not been found wanting. He has succeeded.
I’m not saying he has all the answers, but lets give him a chance. His willingness for good and honesty has not been tarnished by the politics of greed.
I pray that the burden of success I want for him isn’t too much for him to bear.
Posted by: DAVID NH | May 7, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
in this same thread are people who say Obama is more white than white, and that Rev. Wright will run the country somehow. Maybe if Clinton supporters made a clear decision of which nonexistent Obama they hated, they could have had a consistent smear message to take him down with. Instead they through everything against the wall hoping something would stick. Some things stuck, but at the same time everyone knows their outrage is insincere.
Way to go, Hillary supporters! It’s now over, and you can partially thank yourselves!
Posted by: Gion | May 7, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Tony, Staniam
My family will be doing the same thing if Clinton is not the nominee. But can she run as an independent? Anyway, I don’t think she belong to neither Republican nor Democratic Party at all. None of them is for the middle, working class. They are very far left or very far right.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 7, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Imagine the headlines on November 5th: Democrats hand victory to McCain. Republicans control White House for four more years. That’s exactly what Clinton supporters are promising to do. Oh yeah, that’s real smart. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! You’re going to vote for more debt passed on to your children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren, more war, more dead and crippled soldiers, a weaker military, fewer allies abroad, higher gas and oil prices, higher food prices, fewer jobs, less health care, more tax cuts for the wealthy and for corporate interests, a more radically right wing Supreme Court.
Pathetic. Voting for Mccain is political suicide for the Democratic party. Well, fine. But when everything starts going to hell in a handbasket next year and you’re whining and complaining about it, don’t forget to tell us that YOU VOTED FOR IT.
Posted by: windrider | May 7, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
I was undecided in this race until I saw the class and intelligence with which Obama responded to the overly-defensive white racist attacks on Rev. Wright. His response to ignorance of all kinds turned me into an Obama supporter. I think those folks who are calling Obama “racist” need to look very closely in the mirror. His election would truly be a hopeful sign for America.
Posted by: whitewoman | May 7, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Interesting….
Why are so many faithful democrates against Obama? Both candidates have played dirty and all could argue that one side is “dirty” than another BUT they both have the potential to do the right thing. The main question is who will actually listen to the people and will the actually listen to their advisors or will they take the stand that they know it all??? This should be the deciding point between these two people. Remember, Bush did ok in his first term and then in his second he’s decided not to listen to anyone but his own convictions!
Posted by: Cornelius | May 7, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Hillary can play an important role in an Obama administration, Hillary supporters should realize that not all power resides in the POTUS – consider the possibilities; HRC as supreme court justice, head of senate, cabinet position.
You may not like it that she won’t be the nominee, but I think that if she and her supporters unite behind Obama now she can be a significant force in this country for many years to come. Unfortunately, if she hangs on to impossible math, and her supporters remain bitter and continue ‘swearing’ to vote for McCain or not vote at all, she will fade into obscurity and worse, history will view her as a selfish divisive politician.
Posted by: Lynne B | May 8, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am