Obama Flubs Concentration Camp Claim
ABC News’ Rick Klein and Sunlen Miller Report: Sen. Barack Obama erred on Monday in referring to a Nazi concentration camp that a family member helped liberate, his campaign acknowledged Tuesday.
In a Memorial Day speech in New Mexico, Obama, D-Ill., touted the service of his grandfather and other family members during World War II, and added a few details about a great-uncle.
"I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps," Obama said, "and the story in our family was is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months, right. Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain."
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
After several conservative bloggers and Fox News Channel pointed out that the Auchwitz concentration camp was liberated by Soviet soldiers, not Americans, Obama’s campaign clarified the statement.
"Senator Obama’s family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II –- especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald," spokesman Bill Burton said. "Yesterday he mistakenly referred to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald in telling of his personal experience of a soldier in his family who served heroically."
Buchenwald was liberated by American soldiers in April 1945.
Said Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant: "At times it appears that Barack Obama inaccurately recalls his own history and American history, so it’s important that we point to the facts. In this case, we’re happy to see that he took the time to set the record straight."
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Obama the FRAUD! continues his lies. Obama without subtance but yet can fool many of you into voting for him.
A junior senator, less then 2 years as senator and no real resume to speak of yet he has managed to fool many of you.
Posted by: Jill | May 27, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
This still isnt as bad as when mccain mixed up who they were fighting in the war.
Posted by: Chris | May 27, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Yeah! Obama has had someone else in the military in his family. How about him???
That should really be a prereq. to being POTUS.
Amend the Constitution NOW!
Posted by: jpt | May 27, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Said Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant: “At times it appears that Barack Obama inaccurately recalls his own history and American history, so it’s important that we point to the facts. In this case, we’re happy to see that he took the time to set the record straight.”
Unlike G W Bush who doesn’t even bother to set his own military record straight
Posted by: Steve Henderson | May 27, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
What comes around goes around
Posted by: KURT | May 27, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
HEY JILL, HE DIDNT LIE HE “MISSPOKE”, LIKE OTHERS HAVE DONE.
Posted by: roger in VA | May 27, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
I would certainly look for Fox news to come up with the Nazi experts or is it Expert Nazis. Not as bad as McCain mixing up Iraq with Iran but maybe he wasn’t stopping thinking about tomorrow if he’s our POTUS.
Posted by: bhciapol | May 27, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
AMAZING HOW THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS WILLING TO NOMINATE A MAN FOR THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES
WHOSE FATHER WAS NOT AN AMERICAN, NEVER BECAME AN AMERICAN, AND UNCONDITIONALLY REJECTED AMERICA AFTER IMPREGNATING A NAIVE AMERICAN WOMAN WHO WAS OBAMA’S MOTHER!!!!
JUST THINK OF THIS AND WONDER WHAT THESE PEOPLE REALLY DO FOR THIS NATION.
Posted by: JOHN WA | May 27, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
This guy who could not get his uncle right, and probably never heard of Buchenwald, is claiming liberating a concentration camp that was liberated by the Russian Red Army.
Now they have to explain what he really meant to say is that he messed up what uncle he had and which concentration camp “his uncle”. Turns out he has no uncle who went to WWII. The phony will say anything, just say anything, to get elected.
Posted by: a new name | May 27, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
This is sort of like the Bosnia flap, eh? Remeber how long the media stayed on that? Perhaps this should be on your front page… Ha!
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 27, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Lets see… ummm. 2 years a a junior senator, a communiy organizer (that when there are no other jobs around), and a law professor that teaches rich kids how to think. – Great – perfect resume for a USA President!
Posted by: evian | May 27, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
*yawn*
how about that McCain-Bush fundraiser?
Posted by: Andy E | May 27, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
He also said that the US has 57 states!!!Nothing huge here either, but ????
Posted by: Eva | May 27, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Yeah! Obama has had someone else in the military in his family. How about him??? That should really be a prereq. to being POTUS. Amend the Constitution NOW!
JPT, I THINK YOU ARE A CLINTON LOVER, WHAT ABOUT BILL’S NON-MILITARY SERVICE. HE AND HILLARY ESCAPED TO ENGLAND TO AVOID THE DRAFT, AND FOR THE RECORD OBAMA WAS TOO YOUNG FOR VIETNAM AND TOO OLD FOR IRAQ.
Posted by: roger in VA | May 27, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Enhancing those boring campaign-speaches can be difficult. Hillary to Bosnia in 1992, right after the fighting stopped. The area had sniper activities, which was why the helicopter she was in flew sic-sac before landing and the secret service prepared. However, the tension Hillary may have felt do not reflect what she said; making it sound like they had to duck and run due to sniper fire. TV-footage made her embellishments seem like lies, but are they really?
I am sure that when Obama embellish the story of the uncle he doesn’t know, he isn’t really lying, or? Obama supports our troops, even though he never served himself. And it is okey for judes to vote for Obama. Isn’t that what he is saying?
And the point of the sniper story is that in 1992 Hillary Clinton was in Bosnia, she participated in the peace talks in Northern Irland and spoke of women rights in China. Where was Obama in 1992? That my friends, is what experience looks like.
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
The RNC would tag us all with ID papers and other idendfication, tell us what to read, promote state religion and tell us what we can do with our bodies if terminally ill and with reproductive choices.
Bush, in telling us, that we need to give him greater powers without oversight from the other branches of government are eerily similiar to what Hitler asked the German parliment to grant him.
Posted by: scott jeffries | May 27, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Enhancing those boring campaign-speaches can be difficult. Hillary went to Bosnia in 1992. The area had sniper activities, which was why the helicopter she was in flew sic-sac before landing and the secret service prepared for the worst. However, the tension Hillary may have felt do not reflect what she said; making it sound like they had to duck and run due to sniper fire. TV-footage made her embellishments seem like lies, but are they really?
I am sure that when Obama embellish the story of the uncle he doesn’t know, he isn’t really lying, or? Obama supports our troops, even though he never served himself. And it is okey for judes to vote for Obama. Isn’t that what he is saying?
And the point of the sniper story is that in 1992 Hillary Clinton was in Bosnia, she participated in the peace talks in Northern Irland and spoke of women rights in China. Where was Obama in 1992? That my friends, is what experience looks like.
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Enhancing those boring campaign-speaches can be difficult. Hillary went to Bosnia in 1992. The area had sniper activities, which was why the helicopter she was in flew sic-sac before landing and the secret service prepared for the worst. However, the tension Hillary may have felt do not reflect what she said; making it sound like they had to duck and run due to sniper fire. TV-footage made her embellishments seem like lies, but are they really?
I am sure that when Obama embellish the story of the uncle he doesn’t know, he isn’t really lying, or? Obama supports our troops, even though he never served himself. And it is okey for judes to vote for Obama. Isn’t that what he is saying?
And the point of the sniper story is that in 1992 Hillary Clinton was in Bosnia, she participated in the peace talks in Northern Irland and spoke of women rights in China. Where was Obama in 1992? That my friends, is what experience looks like.
What goes around, comes around, is what I say.
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
OOPs he did it again.
Little or no comment or concern from the MSM again.
The double standard yet again. Women will stay home and be quiet in Nov. that’s for sure.
Posted by: s.b. | May 27, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
When you have no record to talk about, you have to talk about all the relatives you never knew.
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
hilary said she was “under fire” and then when the press called her on it, she said “so, i made a mistake. we all make mistakes.”
i’m sure the hectic pace the candidates have had to keep up could very easily cause a person to misspeak or forget the name of a camp and slip in one they remember.
it’s all been a punch and judy show, anyway. they’ve both been disappointing at times, embaressing at others!
Posted by: kath | May 27, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Dan Qayle was technically correct in Potatoe.
Bho is no Potato.
Posted by: a new name | May 27, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Good grief the name of the concentration camp was wrong! That’s like asking someone to pass the salt when they meant to pass the butter…. for the sake of the story: no change in content, meaning, point…. but, for those with little to find fault in: I guess it can be twisted into something that is equivalent to ‘his family invented the atomic bomb to end the war.’ Oh boy… I’m wasting my time with these littlenessess and so are you.
Posted by: origood | May 27, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Is this suppose to be a big deal?
McCain gets Shia and Sunni mixed up ALL THE TIME.
At least the story is true but the family lore was the wrong concentration camp. It has been correctly.
Big deal.
Posted by: Stacey | May 27, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Right, McCain never flubs on where he’s at or who we’re fighting now does he?
Posted by: JR | May 27, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Obama-camp naming Hillary untruthful and a liar for months are defending fevorishly their own candidates mispeak.
I say no more favors: Obama is a liar!
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Obama-camp naming Hillary untruthful and a liar for months are defending fevorishly their own candidates mispeak.
I say no more favors: Obama is a liar and he run one of the most negative campaign I have ever experienced!
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
One other thing-why is it Obama has to tout other people’s successes…does he not have any of his own????? Guess not! Wow, what a president to be proud of!!!
Posted by: CD | May 27, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama is an idiot.
He calls for moving troops from Iraq to Afghanistan and he is not even aware they speak different languages.
Untested. Unelectable. Obama.
Posted by: Stacey | May 27, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Hillary could have jumped all over this, just like his campaign did with the RFK gaffe…but she didn’t…she’s tired of OBAMA’s games!
Posted by: CD | May 27, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
McCain has mixed up Sunni and Shia so much that Obama’s mix up on the concentration camp is really NO BIG DEAL.
Posted by: Brandon | May 27, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
….As far as looking for a “story” where there is none, well that’s just the tabloid media for you. Type it and throw it out there, check for facts later….
Isn’t that pretty much what Obama did in his speech?
Posted by: Charlie3515 | May 27, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Oh wow he got two camps wrong, big deal. Any concentration camp is bad and i would of been proud to have an uncle liberate a concentration camp no matter which one.
Posted by: scott | May 27, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
You Bho followers always have some excuses. What has the Obama lie got to do with HRC?
HRC went to a war zone; whether or not there is sniper fire, how many presidential wives or first ladies have gone to a war zone? Where was Obama? Talking about war zone, Obama was so afraid of his life, he had not gone to Iraq to gain some understanding for 2 years. At least this is a subject he so preaching to have it solved in 16 months. If he had no first hand knowledge, how is he to solve a problem, by his words?
Now, Bho wants us to trust his words. Do we trust his words anymore?
If you have no substance, you will eventually be exposed. It is the small, daily exposures, or mistakes, or misspoken words, or misjudgments that show his true colors, which is blank inside.
Posted by: fat cat | May 27, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
The fact that he misspoke isn’t that big a deal. What is a big deal is why he keeps bringing up family members and their military service as if that somehow makes him more patriotic or, in this case, sympathetic to the jewish people. It’s seems like rather circuitious logic. All it does is show how weak he is on some issues.
Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
John mccain does not know who we are fighting in a present war yet we are stuck on something obama had gotten mixed up on a pass war?
Posted by: Tim | May 27, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I really hope we won’t have to look at that face for four years. The Fraud!
Posted by: A.M. | May 27, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Why should Obama bother to get the facts right?
His fanatics will believe anything that comes out of his mouth, and pro-Obama media won’t report it.
His daily gaffes show objective Americans how weak and unqualified Obama is to lead this country.
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 27, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. Wow! Sometimes I wonder about the press and how they present these stories. The truth here is that there is no story. Now Clinton’s comments about the RFK assassination, with regards to anything that could happen to change her fortunes in this race- now that’s a true news story. I don’t have to wonder about the RNC and their judgement. Unethical and amoral to say the least.
Posted by: Lecky | May 27, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
And yes, Obama is the biggest fraud of them all. If America doesn’t wisen up we will be going from one moron to another.
Posted by: A.M. | May 27, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
If this were Hillary misspeaking, Obama’s camp/supporters would have been all over it. What goes around, should come around.
Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Hey Concerned Citizen, you’ll need us in November.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 27, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Most of you detractors refuse to admit it, but Obama is human. He’s flesh and blood just like you. He made a mistake and corrected it promptly. What’s the problem? This is very different from “mispeaking” and misremembering your own life events.
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Hope | May 27, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Roger King -
You know what, you might be right. Isn’t it true that BHO’s mother’s mother side from Russia? Someone got to check it, Bho might be right after all. NOT!
Posted by: boneheaded | May 27, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
No comment.
Bye Democratic Party.
Posted by: whatever | May 27, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
All I hear is Obama going after McCain. Why are Obama and/or his surrogates always on the attack. I thought he was going to be a different kind of politician. I think he is more negative than most.
Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Hope -
“Obama is human”!!!! Oh my my my…. Isn’t he political Jesus to his followers!?
You are so condescending.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | May 27, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
At least his family did DO something to help people-Probably half of you complaining about Obama don’t know anything about your family tree past your grandfather. So get a life and find out the NAME OF YOUR GREAT UNCLE.
Posted by: lowes4321 | May 27, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Hey Louis, it was his “Uncle” good lord your as bad as Obama
Posted by: Jeffrey | May 27, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Sylvia in Oslo
Do you live in opposite world? Obama has run the best and cleanest campaign of any of the candidates. Hillary Clinton is by far the biggest liar and dirty politician in this campaign.
Posted by: BK | May 27, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I feel sorry for anyone that thinks McCain is a “maverick” Republican, they’re only fooling themselves. What is it that McCain doesn’t want the public to see about his fundraisers with Bush? Why is he so afraid to let the media in? What is he hiding?
Posted by: Topher | May 27, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
BK I thought you were in prison!
Posted by: CD | May 27, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
He said it was an uncle and it was a great uncle and he said the wrong camp name as well.
If he runs such a clean campaign, why is he attacking McCain all the time?
Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Obama is one big gaffe machine.
Posted by: Jo | May 27, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Gaffe’s are human error, I for one is more than willing to forgive them. However, Obama ran a negative campaign, effectively tanking Clinton approval numbers. He called her untrusthworthy, pushing the sniper-fire for weeks, which is why I have very little compassion when he does it.
Clinton let Obama off the “sweetie” incident and we forgot it in two days. I say no more favors for Obama. He is not worth it.
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I think this story was let out by the RNC to get us distracted about the bush/mccain meeting behind closed doors.
Posted by: George | May 27, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
We also have 57 states with Kentucky bordering Arkansas, not Illinois.
Posted by: lois | May 27, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
First he lies about Selma & his parents, then he lied about Kennedy bringing his dad to America and now he’s lying about this.
Obama is ….a liar.
Posted by: Jo | May 27, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Janet,
57 Democratic primary contests. Get your facts straight.
Posted by: Topher | May 27, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
A mistake about which concentration camp your uncle helped to liberate is not nearly as bad as lying about YOURSELF being under sniper fire or confusing which country is harboring terrorists in this present day.
Posted by: Nikole | May 27, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
The pc Obama loving idealists are going to screw things up again. Why don’t you just hand the Republicans the Presidency on a silver platter?
Posted by: A.M. | May 27, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Why don’t the petty republicans set the history straight on the economy, high gas prices, healthcare etc…This country has real issues and just like clock work they only want to distract and not discuss the issues they have failed so horribly on.
Posted by: leslie | May 27, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Obama is becoming “King of Gaffes”……How can you get a relatives story wrong. I know all about my grandfathers’ bouts in the war….he must have not cared too much about his uncle’s service until recently….
Posted by: Dawn | May 27, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Funny that in 2002 when Obama was making a speech about Aushwitz, he never mentioned any of this!
Bwhahahahahaha….
Posted by: Jo | May 27, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Obama started attacking Hillary from the very beginning. Remember his stump speech: Hillary didn’t have the judgment to be president because she voted for the Iraq resolution. If that wasn’t going negative, what was it? Obama says he isn’t going to go negative, then he does. Now he is attacking McCain. He and his supporters are delusional when they pretend they don’t go negative. He is just a hypocrite.
Posted by: Susan | May 27, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
It’s too bad it seems the majority of Americans are stupid. That’s why we can barely ever elect anyone President who is worthy of the office.
Obama 08
Posted by: Topher | May 27, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Glolly Gee Obama is just trying to make himselflook good and fit in.
Like he did when he made up the story of how he came to be born. the historical dates were far after he was born.
Would someone tell obama, Honesty is the best way for that.
lies, even little ones always come back and haunt you.
He might be to the point of not being about to tell what is the truth and what his lies are.
Posted by: seah | May 27, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Some of the people responding have no idea what they are talking about. Obama DOESN”T HAVE AN UNCLE! HIS MOTHER WAS AN ONLY CHILD!
Posted by: GIna | May 27, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Hey!! Know someone who knew someone that as in the Gulf war !! Now can I be President ?? I’m as qualified in foreign policy as Barack is.
Posted by: LADNARC | May 27, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Gee, the neo-cons are up in arms about Obama making a mistake, its not like the Bush adminstration ever lied to us about anything, what a joke they are! They are so full of hate, they can’t even see straight.
Posted by: Bill Dull | May 27, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
->Jim
I know a lot. And I feel if a candidate feels competent to talk about the subject it’s not something you can just ‘blab’ about.
Posted by: John | May 27, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
@Leche-
It’s common knowledge that the Soviets liberated Aushwitz.
Posted by: Hank | May 27, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
HMMM…. was his uncle in the Russian army? After all it was the Russians who liberated Auschwitz. Maybe that would explain his communist leanings.
Posted by: LADNARC | May 27, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
At least he did not repeat it several times, and then admitted that he misspoke (Clinton). And even that can be forgiven, compared to those that tell lies, never admit to their lies, and claim both legislative and executive priviledge at the same time to avoid having to answer to the American Public at all (Cheney). And then there are those who just flat out lie, and claim media bias, even when the story is true — like Bush rejecting the GI Bill.
Posted by: Mia | May 27, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Typical of Hillary’s supporters, making a mountain out of a mole-hill! Odds are it’s easier to mix up names and events you weren’t part of than to recall flying bullets instead of an regal airport reception after landing in Bosnia. Unfortunately, Hillary’s supporters don’t seem to possess the ability of applying the same yard stick when judging the two democratic candidates. I am afraid Hillary, unlike Obama, is bringing out only the worst in her supporters.
Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | May 27, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Topher,
They had to move the Bush-McCain fundraiser because they couldn’t sell any tickets and anti-war protesters were at the original spot. I guess Bush found out today that it isn’t just the public that he’s lost cred with. Just like Hillary, he’s lost his big-money spenders, too. The gig is up and the people are gonna take this thing back! Oh yeah!
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Hope | May 27, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Mia, actually he has repeated this lie several times. Stay tuned, people are uncovering his old speeches.
This is getting good….yeeehaw.
Posted by: Jo | May 27, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Obama sells his father’s dreams to Americans; he preaches them.
The action of his father is to abandon a family that he created. Whatever dreams his father had are not the kind of values that are consistent with the value of a nuclear family.
It happens that such a nucleus constitutes the basic element of a country, which is reflected by its values and its behaviors in the world.
If BHO sells his father’s dreams, whose sole action and influence on BHO is desertion, it calls into question of his motives to tell these dreams (or shall we say, lies). This, however, does provide some insights into why Obama takes no responsibilities on what he does or says.
Posted by: fat cat | May 27, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
The reason this is a non-story is that liberating one of these concentration camps versus another makes no difference as to the story.
Unlike Hillary’s bosnia lie, its not better if he liberated Auschwitz than Buchenwald, so its hardly a “lie” that anyone should pounce on him for. He misspoke.
Posted by: Grant | May 27, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
With all the gaffes (and this latest lie) this week, there is no way the Obama camp (or the media) can legitimately pounce on McCain for any mistakes blaming it on old age. We got lots of gaffe “ammo” now against Obama proving he’s not the sharpest pencil in the drawer.
Obama is toast..
Posted by: Jo | May 27, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
HMMM…. was his uncle in the Russian army? After all it was the Russians who liberated Auschwitz. Maybe that would explain his communist leanings.
Posted by: LADNARC | May 27, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Saying Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald is not a lie. It’s a mistake but not a lie. His uncle served with honor and liberated a concentration camp. Who cares if Obama said the wrong one 60 years after it happened? At least his mistake didn’t result in over 4,000 American deaths and a failing economy. Also, his mistake won’t lead us into a conflict with Iran. Calm down right wingers. Talk about issues. It seems as though you are afraid of talking about issues because then you will finally be speechless.
Posted by: Michael | May 27, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
I want to defend Obama on one thing; you cannot call Obama “King of Gaffe” when Bush is still President.
Clinton 08!
Posted by: Sylvia from Oslo | May 27, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Sylvia from Oslo
The kitchen sink term actually came from the Clinton campaign.
Posted by: Nikole | May 27, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Next story we will probably hear is the one about dodging sniper fire while on his way to the State House in Illinois. What a bottom feeder this clown is. God help us if this country is stupid enough to elect this mental midget as our President.
Posted by: LADNARC | May 27, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Lou,
Bho is THE political Jesus. The day has come.. You got to pass the words…
Posted by: a new name | May 27, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Obama is merely confused about dates and names. He mistakenly gave JFK and RFK credit for his father being able to come over from Kenya and go to school when in fact they had nothing to do with the event.
And confusing Auschwitz and Buchenwald, well, who can expect an airhead to have all the facts straight? Besides, he doesn’t need to be real bright to fix the economy, end the war, break our dependence on oil, provide health care, repair foreign relations. Does he??
Posted by: Jeff | May 27, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
So he mixed up the camps! Whats the big deal? Its a story of his family’s history and by telling my own children of their family heritage I have gotten a few places incorrect at times as well, and had THEM remind me of what it actually was. The point is that we all can “mis” word things, and in his case the story was very accurate, just a miswording of the exact camp. Which is easy enough to do for any of us.
Posted by: jody | May 27, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Of course, this could have been an innocent mistake, or it could have been a lie. The problem is, Clinton(s) and Obama have been caught in so many “mistakes” and “misspeaks”, who is to say? My trust in these two is nonexistent, not just based on their “misspeaks”, but on their lack of experience in general.
Posted by: Lisa Again | May 27, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
And let us not forget that Obama thinks there are 57 states and that Kentucky borders Arkansas but NOT Illinois!!
LOLOLOL.
Barack “Gaffe-O’Matic” Obama!!
I think someone is even starting a website of his gaffes!!!!!
Posted by: Jo | May 27, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Sylvia–
Then by all means vote for McCain. I don’t see how this will vindicate Clinton, or even improve our situation in Iraq.
I will have to respectfully disagree with you on all points. Clinton started taking plays out of the Rovian handbook since she fell so far behind in votes, that the only way she could catch up was to point out all her opponents flaws. And even that has not worked.
The Clintons have never been able to admit that they ran an inferior campaign to Obama’s, choosing instead to cry racism and sexism to explain their losses. She has complained of caucuses being unfair because she has lost them. She can’t even keep her campaign in the black.
Perhaps if she didn’t have the annoying habit of playing the victim card at every turn, I would be more inclined to believe that sexism did play a role.
Obama is more inspirational and has a better run campaign, period. And the media has been completely ridiculous many times throughout. None of this has effected my opinion. I am sick of Clintons and Bush’s running this country.
Posted by: Mia | May 27, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Whatever!! His uncle and gramps still liberated a concentration camp! Who cares if he said the wrong name, the fact itself is still true. How many of you have said the wrong name of something before??? Get real
Posted by: Hill08 | May 27, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Now Richardson is supporting McCain on border control issues……but, he endorses Obama! He disagrees with Obama on border control. Man, this is one messed up Super Delegate!
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I agree it was just a blunder on Obama’s part and, as a Clinton supporter, I think he mispoke and that should be the end of it. However, last week when Clinton mentioned RFK and the fact that RFK’s campaign was going thru June of 1968, many Obama supporters basically said she was planning to assissinate Obama. Lopsided, just like Richardson.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
This is unforgiveable from the man that wants to be the President of the United States of America. He is trying to say that he just misspoke about what– having an uncle (since his Mom is an only child)or saying we liberated Auschwitz instead of the Soviets or trying to pretend that Auschwitz is interchangeable with Buchenwald???
Posted by: unstoppable 08 | May 27, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
No wonder he wants the race over soon so he can take a long rest.
Posted by: catleya | May 27, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Obama didn’t say his great uncle was among the FIRST troops, he said first AMERICAN troops. Read his statement. That is completely accurate. The right-wing wackos are the one’s lying in a desperate attempt to discredit Barack Obama.
Posted by: Eric | May 27, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
My grandfather also was an infantryman in Germany who was part of a unit that liberated a concentration camp. He wrote a letter back to his folks about it. Of course he didn’t know what it was at the time. Anyway, he never talked about it, and he didn’t go up in the attic. Instead, when he got home he went right to work being a devoted husband and father. My grandfather is a great man. He is not a politician.
Posted by: bcwhite750 | May 27, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
What about his other “flubs” that carefully overlooked by the press? He made a ridiculous claim that Iraq was short of interpreters because they were needed in Afghanistan. Iraq and Afghanistan have different languages. The press knew his statement was inaccurate and didn’t bother to correct him. What about his “57 states” comment? The press would have had a field day if McCain or Clinton had made this stupid comment. What about his lack of knowledge on Hanford nuclear waste site?
Posted by: Pam | May 27, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Obama sells his father’s dreams to Americans; he preaches them.
The action of his father is to abandon a family that he created. Whatever dreams his father had are not the kind of values that are consistent with the value of a nuclear family.
It happens that such a nucleus constitutes the basic element of a country, which is reflected by its values and its behaviors in the world.
If BHO sells his father’s dreams, whose sole action and influence on BHO is desertion, it calls into question of his motives to tell these dreams (or shall we say, lies). This, however, does provide some insights into why Obama takes no responsibilities on what he does or says.
Posted by: fat cat | May 27, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Obama said: “I am tough of terrorism” LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel!!
Obama said: ” Because I lived in Indonesia, I have more foreign experience”- :LIAR, your were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons?
Posted by: micha6888 | May 27, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
who is losing his bearing?
Don’t blame anybody else for mispoken.
Posted by: catleya | May 27, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Nikole….you nailed it on the head…good to see a few smart people in this blog!
Posted by: American Joe | May 27, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Are you kidding me? We are arguing over hime calling his great uncle and uncle. I call all of my great aunts and uncle….Aunt Gloria, Uncle Floyd, etc….wow……
Posted by: Nikole | May 27, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Before making wild accusations about Obama, people should listen to the video of his Memorial Day comments. Obama spoke sincerely about the necessity of the U.S. government to properly care for veterans suffering from the trauma of their war experiences. In his discussion he referred to his grandfather’s and his great uncle’s military service in WWII. It appeared that he was relating stories that relatives had told him. In the process of illustrating his point with references to his relatives he named the wrong concentration camp. Fox news and other Obama haters immediately brand him a liar and, as usual, some people fail to check facts for themselves and repeat the media distortion. They have to create a mountain out of a grain of sand because they will try anything to destroy his candidacy. It won’t work because thinking Americans can see through this smokescreen as clearly as a glass of spring water
Posted by: Bob Gee | May 27, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Ya just gotta be astounded at these republican operatives on these blogs. Obama is a fraud because he said the wrong concentration camp name in an otherwise accurate story?
Sorry republicans that dog won’t hunt. The only fraud is calling Obama a fraud on this one.
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 27, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Obama is nothing without a script. During debates, he definitely did not shine. The media is too afraid of being un-pc and pointing out his weaknesses.
Posted by: Lisa S | May 27, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Man, Lou is ripping Obama to shreds now! He’s on fire tonite because Obama misspoke about something Lou said about illegal aliens. Obama needs a rest! All three analyst said Obama owes Lou an apology, or even better, come on the show and debate Lou….Obama would lose. Lou said he has no use for Obama and that he is not part of Obama’s adoring media……Lou states the facts about Obama that the media doesn’t want to hear.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Mr. Perfect can not possibly tell a lie. He mispeaks, and everyone else LIES!!!! What a shame….
Posted by: Gabriel | May 27, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
The more that man speaks, the more pathetic he becomes.
Even more pathetic is the excuse machine alive and well on here working themselves up in a lather defending their great divider. Their racist. Their deceiver.
The greatest theft of our time. Obama winning anything based on his experience and qualifications.
Posted by: jpt | May 27, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Of course, Al Gore did say he invented the internet…..no one crucified him…
I think Obama probably has paid bloggers to do his dirty work….but all of the Clinton Bashing will backfire in November.
But Obama supporters don’t need us Clinton supporters anyway, according to them…
There reaches a point you get disgusted, and you no longer believe a candidate cares about anything other than getting elected. Clinton HELD out the olive branch…said she would campaign her heart out for the nominee…she has more grace and poise than Obama’s pinky…he stomps her Olive branch into the mud…and his supporters bash her with the same old BORING comments…so tell me, how do I begin to even respect him?
I don’t…I write in Clinton…
Posted by: Belle | May 27, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Isn’t time we quite listening to the 21% that just keep getting wrong.
Posted by: Steve Henderson | May 27, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Nikole,
You can not force Hillary supporters to vote for Obama and pointed they are bitter.
If we think Obama is the best, we already voted for him in the first time before voting for Hillary .
Posted by: catleya | May 27, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Ok, I’m a Clinton supporter, Obama just misspoke…..it’s easy to do, just like Hillary misspoke. Both candidates are very tired right now, but I guess thats no excuse, right? Now, what Obama did to Lou Dobbs, was an outright lie. Thats different. Lets get back to the issues.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
fat cat – Obama’s family values are somehow suspect? McCain came home to a wife that stood by him while he was a POW and his values are to get discouraged that she is no longer fit and good looking, have an afair with Cindy (while still married), marry her, and then call her the most vile names when she upsets him with a joking comment.
Yeah, let’s talk about Obama’s values versus McCain’s. I can talk about that one all day.
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 27, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Obama wrote a book called, “Dreams of My Father”.
However, Obama’s father was a Marxist, who wrote an article called, “Problems of Our Socialism.”
If you want to really know how Obama feels about his white ancestrys, read what Obama has to say about his bi-racial ancestry:
From Dreams of My Father: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race.”
From Dreams of My Father: “There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”
From Dreams of My Father: “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”
From Dreams of My Father: “I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.”
From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Let’s see Obama supporters try to spin what Obama called his “animosity” against the white race.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 27, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Sorry for all the typos in my post. 50 year old eyes with the need of updated glasses.
Posted by: CW | May 27, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Do NOT write in Clinton in the General unless you are sure that your state allows this.
Some states will either discount the vote or give it to the Democratic nominee
Posted by: James | May 27, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
This is nothing.
Ronald Reagan claimed — while president — to have personally liberated concentration camps.
Somehow I bet the same people here hating Obama adore Reagan.
Posted by: Scott in PacNW | May 27, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Well, well, Free Ride called to task. This must hurt his ego to no end. Be careful people. We have a grand lady, Hillary by name, who ought to be the first Woman President of the United States of America. Best ticket: Hillary and Michael Bloomberg and it does not matter who heads up this ticket. Unbeatable.
Posted by: benvictor | May 27, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Sure, Barack, and my uncle was on the Moon to welcome Neil Armstrong when he landed.
Posted by: FuzzyMatt | May 27, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
So!!!!!!! His great uncle was among the troops at another concentration camp. A concentration camp at one site was pretty much the same at another. Leave it to republicans who will do their best to find something to jump on. Really pitiful and sad.
Posted by: Vicki | May 27, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
What hasn’t Obama flubbed???
Where does he really stand on the issues? Voting ‘present’ isn’t really all that telling about a candidate.
Easy there Bob, W served which is far more than that fellow Obama has ever done. Or the beloved Bill Clinton, who would be in prison if it wasn’t for a pardon.
Posted by: jpt | May 27, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
And when Hilary spoke about Bobby Kennedy’s assasination, she wasn’t implying anything about Obama either, but did you let HER off the hook. H-ll no you didn’t. So go ahead EXPLAIN IT TO ME!
Posted by: druggstohr | May 27, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
What’s sad here is that Obama supporters are so quick to humanize and try to explain away an obvious lie which was meant to gather Jewish voters by tying himself to Auschwitz. This is called “nothing” by his supporters. Had Clinton said it, she’d have been called an anti-semitic as well as a liar. It’s NOT an easy miss. Anyone who has studied world history and in particular World War II would not get Buchenwald and Auschwitz mixed up — he touts his erudition, so which is it? Is he a liar or a moron? Or both? In any event, perhaps the hero should get his lies fact checked before he tells them. Yet another reason why this man does not get my vote. And counting.
Posted by: Julia | May 27, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
James says:
Do NOT write in Clinton in the General unless you are sure that your state allows this.
Some states will either discount the vote or give it to the Democratic nominee
Very good point! It’s important that we know the states rules. If we write in her name and it goes to the Democratic Party, then it helps Obama. If this is true, vote Independent or McCain…anything to keep Obama out of the White House.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Auschwitz was in the province of Silesia which was annexed into the Greater German Reich after the invasion of Poland, so Auschwitz was not in Poland when the concentration camp was in operation. The Ohrdruf sub-camp had been abandoned by the Germans and there were only a few sick prisoners there, along with some of the inmates who had escaped from the evacuation march to the main Buchenwald camp, when American soldiers stumbled upon the camp. Ohrdruf was the only camp that Eisenhower visited, and afterwards, he ordered that as many American soldiers as possible should be brought from the battlefront to see the dead bodies there. So lots of soldiers saw the abandoned Ohrdruf camp, although they did not “liberate” the camp.
With kudos to Gen Baugher.
Posted by: Far-West Texan | May 27, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
LOL Rev Wright!
Posted by: Bill | May 27, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Who cares? The guy could say and do (or not do) anything and his brainless followers and the MSM would shout ‘Amen’. It’s up to the rest of us to ensure he gets nowhere near the White House.
Posted by: Indie now leaning right | May 27, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
If this arrogant, unqualified jerk wins the nomination, it will be gaffe after gaffe until McCain wins by a landslide.
He has alienated 17+ million democrats with his nasty campaign and scary personal life.
If he’s on the ticket, we’re down for McCain.
Posted by: patrick & jane | May 27, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Vicki,
“One concentration camp was pretty much the same as another” Are you serious??
Posted by: unstoppable 08 | May 27, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Right on Pat and Jane.
Posted by: druggstohr | May 27, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
First Obama played his cards on his “black” side in order to gain the black voter foundation. Then he played his cards on his “typical white” side because he is losing out on the working class white voters. Now, he wants to close the gap with the Jewish voters. What a hypycrite! What a typical politician! When he keeps talking about “change”, it makes me sick.
Posted by: truthandfair | May 27, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
The real Obama is emerging and it is not what the media told us he was. Obama cannot think on his feet and this will come out during the election process when the media cannot cover it up. Obama should not have made it past the Iowa Caucus but he is media produced and got away with his chicanery until now.
Posted by: Bill | May 27, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
I tell you this someone Baracks uncle needs to liberate us from some of you bloggers. The level of crap you closet bigots excuse me republicans add to the conversation would make one wonder if it was a few of your relatives Baracks uncle had to knock out while helping to free the Jews. Enough with hiprocracy hipocracy,double standards and the hatred Barack, his father and naive mother have just as much of a right to to be here as any of us afterall the only “real Americans” are the Indians and the same ignorant banter I see here the same attitude same propaganda is what nearly led to their mass extinction. I hope Barack wins not just I am tired of deciding between gas or groceries but it would be the ultimate “in your face” to the good ol’ boys and gals excuse me again I mean social conservatives, sorry, that sniper fire is getting to me.
Posted by: Exodus | May 27, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Good point. I plan on getting the book and reading it. It won’t change my mind, however, I’m a Hillary supporter to the core. I will be reading it to see how much danger America is in if Obama gets into the White House. However, thanks for your recommendations. I actually voted for Obama in the Texas primary, but then, all hell broke loose with Reverend Wright and Obama played the “race” card. I will never forgive him for that. I feel he betrayed Dr. King, a man of superior intelligence and passion for uniting America. I feel Obama ripped to pieces everything that Dr. King stood for. Sorry, my vote goes to Hillary, if not her, then the Independent candidate or McCain, but NEVER for Obama.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Just throw it on top of Barack’s “flub” pile. (Such a large pile for such a short time on the national scene.)
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | May 27, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Obviously A doesn’t realize that Obama’s Great Uncle was from his Mom’s side of the family. He would have been white not black.
Posted by: Topher | May 27, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
v, It was his grandmother’s brother…I’m pretty sure he wasn’t talking about his kenyan Grandmother….that would make his uncle, WHITE.
Posted by: MARCO | May 27, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Instead of supporting Obama, all you Obama lovers should not vote for him to teach him a lesson.
He is an opportunist, who has now ruined any chance the Democrats had of winning this election.
Opportunists only care about themselves. Obama’s ego is so big that he’s willing to put our chances of winning this election in jeopardy.
Wake up! You are all bein manipulated.
Posted by: A.M. | May 27, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Hey, this was an innocent mistake??!!!
Obama has been telling this lie for at least 6 YEARS.
He was telling similar stories about his grandfather back in 2002, in his now-famous Iraq speech, which I’d never previously read:
“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.”
Posted by: Nauman | May 27, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Senator Obama: Thank you for the service your family provided to help liberate the Jews from a concentration camp in Buchenwald….
May the Lord continue to bless you and your family as you now serve this nation in becoming president…..Thanks again….
Posted by: shalom | May 27, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
The wrong name is immaterial, but some of these people have such little minds so they must try to bring Obama down to their level.
Print this one…..
Posted by: The Unshrub | May 27, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Obama said: “I have always been against the Iraq war” – LIAR, you ere not in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich , who seems to be out gutting youObama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date re: Iraq…AGAIN!!!
Obama said: ” I don’t have LObbysists” LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists and counting!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 27, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
wow. really? isn’t the real point to be made here that one of obama’s not-so-distant relatives helped to liberate a nazi concentration camp?
seemes like a fairly honest mistake; auschwitz, buchenwald, sobibor… seems like a pretty minor flub given the facts of the history.
i kinda think that hilary’s recent “flub” over disembarking a plane under heavy gunfire in kosovo seems to beg many more questions than does obama’s slight misremembering of the name of a concentration camp.
some of you folks seem utterly captious and pedantic: obama’s great uncle HELPED TO LIBERATE MANY HUMAN BEINGS WHO WERE GOING TO BE PUT TO DEATH IN GAS CHAMBERS & OVENS. who bloody cares WHERE he did it?!
Posted by: msr | May 27, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Hey, this was an innocent mistake??!!!
Obama has been telling this lie for at least 6 YEARS.
He was telling similar stories about his grandfather back in 2002, in his now-famous Iraq speech, which I’d never previously read:
“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.”
Posted by: Nauman | May 27, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
dnc sucks – Where is the gain in changing the name as long as it was a concentration camp? How much more did Obama gain by saying one camp or another? If there is not difference then there was no fraud even by your rudimentary definition. That is a logical difference not semantics.
Posted by: Sanity Man | May 27, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
To Concerned Cititzen:
Lets see, myself and many millions of Americans heard Obama call his grandmother a “typical” white person. Thats a racist remark, I don’t care HOW you try to spin it! It seems Obama supporters have so much arrogance and are opportunist just like he is. I’m not going to call you a name, as you did me, I refuse to sink to the depths where you are. Obama DID play the race card by referring to white people as “typical”. Face the facts! BTW, you have very good insight on many issues and I enjoy reading your posts….don’t let your emotions get the best of you…..stay focused and you might win others to support your candidate, otherwise,you will be pushing them to McCain, Clinton, or whoever, but away from Obama.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
USmarine0331 -
Obama sells his father’s dreams to Americans; he preaches them.
The action of his father is to abandon a family that he created. Whatever dreams his father had are not the kind of values that are consistent with the value of a nuclear family.
It happens that such a nucleus constitutes the basic element of a country, which is reflected by its actions and behaviors in the world.
If BHO sells his father’s dreams, whose sole action and influence on BHO is desertion, it calls into question of his motives to tell these dreams (or shall we say, lies). This, however, does provide some insights into why Obama takes no responsibilities on what he does or says. This probably is also reflected by his willingness to abandon those whom he characterizes as “poor, less-educated and bitter”.
Posted by: fat cat | May 27, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Why is that as an American, I believe in personal responsibility and that it is not the role of government to support the people and that the people of this country have a responsibility to make something of themselves.
For nearly 200 years we operated like this, with either Obama and Clinton, we will get a welfare state that will put Johnson’s administration to shame.
My great grandfather worked in the coal mines of PA to support his family and took the money he earned to go to college get a degree and then get a job with the railroad. Why do we have to have the government hold our hands at every step of the way.
Posted by: Jim | May 27, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
The Obama Team has beaten the Clinton Machine! NEXT!!!
Posted by: FrigidWeather | May 27, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
What an idiot! A gaffe a day keeps the truth away. God save us!
Posted by: Gig | May 27, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Reading these posts, this is a scary country.
I am surprised that so many people are terrified of things and people that are new to them. Obama is a Muslim, Obama isnt patriotic, Obama is going to ruin America….blah blah blah…..America is such a great place, yet so far behind in many ways. GW starts a damn war with no end plan and we are worried about Obama saying the wrong concentration camp.
Posted by: John in Austin | May 27, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
He is a liar and to dig up a great uncle after his first spin was incorrect to pander for votes on a issue that so many would love to forget is sickening.
Talk about saying anything to win, sure seems to fit Obama but of course that will not be said, by why did he throw that Holocaust line in there, some of his followers are too young to even know anything about that time.
This is the most disgusting thing any candidate could of done, and its even worse to see that the MSM will not call him out on this, but rather buy into this nonsense of a great uncle, we have really gotten low as a people.
Posted by: SJ | May 27, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Many people seem to be voting for barack just for no reason. ask yourselves this.
Why are you voting for him?
many people just, are.
Posted by: Robert Menele | May 27, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
As a jewish American I am deeply offended that Sen. Obama would use such a lie to pander to Jewish voters. We wont be fooled Sen. Obama!
Posted by: Irma | May 27, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Right am going to run for President vote for me because I knew someone, that knew someone that served in Vietnam, so be thankful that I knew that person and vote for me!!!
Posted by: SJ | May 27, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Neta…his great uncle is still alive?
Well then, coming soon to a speech near you…Obama’s great uncle…
More political pandering…gotta get all of those demographics out there.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Why won’t Obama wear a pin of the American flag? Why won’t he place his hand over his heart when they play the National Anthem. Does anyone really believe that 20 years of hearing his mentor and pastor spit vitriolic garbage about whites, and saying “God bless America? NO! God damn America” has not affected Obama’s view of this country? His wife is for the first time proud of America, because her husband is running for President. If you want this inexperienced, biased and brain washed man for President, you’ll get what you deserve. The worst mess America has been in since Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Bob Parsons | May 27, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Wow, how impressive that his whole military experience comes down to an alleged uncle. Good thing that we’re not in a time of crisis.
Posted by: steve | May 27, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Mispeaking is not saying mixing up a name; telling a lie is talking about something that never happened. For example: My uncle helped liberate X place, and then to find out that such uncle never existed.
Posted by: carl29 | May 27, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Remarks of Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama Against Going to War with Iraq
| October 02, 2002
October 2, 2002
—this is from Obama’s own website—-
Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances. The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don’t oppose all wars.
My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain. I don’t oppose all wars.
Posted by: Andy and Jessica | May 27, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Good things always follow bad news.
Trust me on it. Many Jewish voters now will flock to the Obama Camp.
I know it, because we Jewish people are always grateful to those who helped us.
We owe a lot to those who helped to save us. Obama’s great uncle, thank you. You and many others who fought to liberate us, are our heros.
senator Obama, Thank you for sharing your family’s history with us.
Posted by: Neta | May 27, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
To all of you who post without reading and make comments like “Auschwitz or Buchenwald, what is the difference?”
There was much difference!
Auschwitz was in the province of Silesia which was annexed into the Greater German Reich after the invasion of Poland, so Auschwitz was not in Poland when the concentration camp was in operation.
The Ohrdruf sub-camp had been abandoned by the Germans and there were only a few sick prisoners there, along with some of the inmates who had escaped from the evacuation march to the main Buchenwald camp, when American soldiers stumbled upon the camp.
Ohrdruf was the only camp that Eisenhower visited. Afterwards, he ordered that as many American soldiers as possible should be brought from the battlefront to see the dead bodies there.
So lots of soldiers saw the abandoned Ohrdruf camp, although they did not “liberate” the camp.
Posted by: Far-West Texan | May 27, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
It was not a mistake. If it were a mistake, he wouldn’t repeat it. What’s his excuse now?
Posted by: andy and jane | May 27, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
“There was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself. And white.”
Obama quoted from Audacity of Hope after he had a job interview.
Posted by: White | May 27, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Now THAT is an example of “misspeaking” due to fatigue. The basic story was true, he just got the location wrong. Hillary would have claimed to have liberated Auschwitz herself while under heavy sniper fire.
Posted by: Larry | May 27, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
When Hillary does this sort of “misremembering” she is called a “liar” and a “rhymes with witch”. When Barack does it, he simply made an “understandable error”. Oh yeah, and Barack? ; there are FIFTY [50} states in the US.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Can anyone say if Obama camp has given the name of this great uncle that was in the 89th infantry, they seem to be eager to say that is was a mistake well then what is the great uncle’s name or does Obama not remember that also?
Posted by: SJ | May 27, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
There he goes again! Is there no end to his “mispeak”, and why isn’t this little boo boo worth at least three Hillary bashings blasting and spinning all over the you-know-who networks for the next three days? He cannot debate one lick, he cannot stand on his own two feet and speak the real truth, his sense of family history, church, and country are totally out of whack, and he is back-pedaling everytime you turn around. Is he still awe-inspiring and filling us up with hope for change and unity? His sound bite campaign is really laughable. We get it. He doesn’t.
Posted by: georgia | May 27, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
micha6888: Name me a company that has refused to sell to WalMart. They buy from and are sold to by most US companies along with China of course and oftentimes repackage things under their own brand name. I think the company Mrs. Obama is connected to sells pickles to them. But, presumably you have boycotted the store entirely if there is one in your neighborhood. And, Obama’s mother did eventually send him to a Catholic school in Indonesia. Research first before commenting. Hillary Clinton was with WalMart, on the Board no less. Do they have Unions or decent health care yet? Interesting that Sean Penn to whom HRC owes a big six-figure check for his advice is very involved with a firm that helps major companies keep unions out of their work place. Margaret Thatcher who many try to compare HRC to, and forget it, broke the back of unions, as in coal miners in Wales. Interesting that coal mining States did not pick up on that one if HRC is the US equivalent of Thatcher who got in all on her own two feet without any husband name recognition and worked her way up through elections, not marriage. And, a horror she turned out to be for many. The US appreciates her a lot more than many Brits! In my extended family and their friends, all older people were called just Aunt or Uncle as a courtesy expected of children. Do not know how some of you lot were brought up. I was older than Obama when doing a family tree before I learned some were not actually related. Obama’s family should have told him as a child that his father was a whoring drunk instead of protecting him? Most single parents that I know try to keep at least a degree of decency about the ex-spouse for the sake of the children. The US has often demanded that monitors oversee the elections in many other countries. Wonder if those countries want monitors in on that DNC meeting? The decision was released August 2007 to disenfranchise those States. It was Icke who demanded they be stripped of all their votes instead of just 50%. Go ask him for an explanation if HRC will let you near him. And, not pip squeak of protest from HRC until after Big Tuesday. I hope Americn Jews can remember that their first priority is to the USA. My late father was Jewish, so yes I will say my piece on that issue. A strong America is good for Israel who is talking anyway to who it chooses, as in Syria in spite of Bush displeasure! My mother was an RC. I went my own route. Babies and children cannot help what their parents are. Actually, there were three separate Auschwitz camps. The infamous sign of Arbeit Mach Frei is not the one most Jews entered, but instead sent to Auschwitz II (Birkenau) plus about 40 other affiliated camps within the same region. The Russians freed about 7,000 prisoners still remaining. The rest had all been marched off to other camps ahead of the Russians. Auschwitz, Belsen, Birkenau, Buchenwald – the list is sickeningly long. How many of you really know in depth about them except for the Hollywood movies and some documentaries? My Dad who was in the UK and in the RAF during WWII never talked about it except for one thing. And, we never met a single relative. Dad knew that both the US and the UK knew about Auschwitz, but never destroyed its rail lines. Why not? Infrastructure is needed for when the war is won. The Allies also have blood on their hands. So, no, our history is not squeaky clean, but I do not tolerate changing rules and cheating part way through a game. Told too many kids that that is totally unacceptable. Oh well!
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 27, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Sad, sad, it is really. The United States of America is at war because Americans cannot tell what a lie is. Obama didn’t lie, he made a mistake.
Hillary and Bush told lotsa lies, but they were white lies, so they don’t count. (How many billions did those lies cost again? How many jobs did those lies cost? Yes, let’s take those lies to the bank and support our families with them, shall we.)
Posted by: Dumbing Down 'merika | May 27, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
He isn’t admirable – he’s a politician. Having served in the military would have been admirable, instead he went to Harvard where he learned about arugula and that anyone without a Harvard education doesn’t really qualify as having a “real” education. (They’re the “little people.) I’m sure he puts those admirable service men and women in the “little people” category.
Posted by: Jim | May 27, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Hey how about a blog on ABC’s report that several dozen Supers are ready to endorse Obama after June 3rd?
Posted by: Thinking | May 27, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I LOVE how all the Barack Obama “supporters” are defending Barack’s lie about his uncle [actually Barack, it was your "GREAT Uncle"] by saying that he simply “mispoke” and “everyone makes mistakes”. Ah yeah, if only they had been as understanding when their arch-nemesis Hillary “misspoke”. What a bunch of hypocrites. I cannot wait to see them standing around dazed with their mouths agape in November, wondering why their “American Idol” lost the election. It would be funny, but because of its importance, its just plain sad.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Where is Keith Olbermann when we need him on such a breaking story? Oh, he is too busy filing his diatribes on Hillary? We’ll wait.
Posted by: georgia | May 27, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Obama will say anything to not have to directly talk about the issues. This lie is actually easier for him to defend then his ‘health insurance for some’ program.
Posted by: justsayno | May 27, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Can anyone find out Barack Obama’s great-uncle’s full name? I am wondering now if ANY of his concentration camp story is true. Even if it IS true, he is pandering again, and using a horrible, unspeakable event in world history to puff himself up as a “true patriot”. This is the new “politics of change” he promised us? What an maroon!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
This still isn’t as good as Obama referencing soldiers who gave their lives for our country, then telling the audience “I see some of you out there now.” Priceless. And he wants to be our latex salesman…..
Posted by: Truthseeker | May 27, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
erred? No he lied. He commits “gaffe” after “gaffe” which is clear he simply is uninformed and ignorant. He is a product of the liberal latte college system.
Posted by: geevill | May 27, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
It’s apparent that Obama does not do his homework in preparation for his speeches. In the fall, this will come across as he is unprepared or he doesn’t have the necessary insight on issues in order to take a stand. I know it seems silly that such a big deal is being made out of his misspoke, however, had it been any other candidate, he would have crucified them. Turn about is fair play.
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Hope | May 27, 2008 7:07:26 PM
How…. is it different?
He’s a liar…. he doesn’t know the heads of state… he doesn’t even know the NUMBER of states!…he has given us two vaguely autobiographical novels upon which to base his life…..and in essence he has manfactured his whole life!!!! at the expense of the people he climbed over to get where he is.
He will destroy our country with his limited knowledge of foreign affairs… except as lived by his political family members Odinga and Obama … and he has unsavory friends and unpatriotic allies.
Be careful who you give your vote to.
Be very very careful.
Posted by: Blue Bird | May 27, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
All Obama has to do is tell us his great uncle’s name then its easy to verify if this story is true or not.
Posted by: SJ | May 27, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
There he goes again! He makes up stuff and tries to be all things to all people. Except, he can’t keep his all his lies straight. Off course, he’ll get 3 more Superdelegates endorsements for his gaffe.
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I cannot WAIT to catch Keith Olbermann’s “Countdown” on MSNBC tomorrow evening [8 pm EST folks!]. Lets all see what amazingly profound and intelligent anti-Barack rant he comes up with THIS time! Oh wait, sorry, he only pontificates and rants like a loon when Hillary “misspeaks”.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Bluebird…absolutely correct. Obama is a liar…not someone we want to be POTUS! He and his anti-American friends will destroy this country!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 27, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Someone needs to fact check Obama’s claim about his great uncle since during his speech he talked about his uncle. Who knows, another fabrication?
Obama will do and say anything to be President. This man has not an iota of integrity.
Posted by: alee25 | May 27, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
This is so much fun watching you folks bicker and whine. I’m 60 years old, seen a lot of elections, but I have never seen a political party be so set on self destruction. It’s either blind rage, misguided beliefs or just plain ignorance on display. This is great entertainment.
Posted by: Skate | May 27, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Obama is where he is because people wanted a biracial president. He was marketed and sold to us as the refreshing, young, hip and cool guy. If you follow Obama, you’ll be one of the “cool” people. Lots of people bought it. Personally, I am over that whole high school popularity contest. Most Hillary supporters are.
He is not experienced enough to deal with any terrorist threats. Do we really want this young, hip and totally inexperienced guy as our President when we get attacked again? Is he going to “hope” the terrorists away? Tell them to “join” him for some “change”? God help us if he is our POTUS!
Posted by: john | May 27, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Obama and his camp is playing race card again. This time they are trying to pander to the Jewish votes. Hopefully, they can see through his lies.
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
This is what you call pandering, folks, only problem is, Obama seems to be caught every day in another “misspeak”. But don’t pick on him, he’s just so tired from having to work so hard for a change. That pesky Hillary just won’t drop out of the race, shame on her!
My favorite one was his solemn story about his father’s American flag covered casket – only trouble is his father was a Kenyan citizen and could never have had an American flag on his casket. But it sure sounds great, right?
Posted by: Grammy Barb | May 27, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Obama and his camp are playing race card again. This time they are trying to pander to the Jewish votes. Hopefully, the Jews will see through his lies and also remember that he is friends with Louis Farrakhan and other anti-jewish extremists.
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Wait till Obama tells you your new tax rate to pay for all of his welfare programs. Then we’ll see how many of you are still supporting him. Why don’t you ask him the question at his next rally? See if you can get him to answer the question, sweetie.
Posted by: KevinR | May 27, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Nikole,
You are confused. “Bitter” is what Obama called us. “Smart” is what we call ourselves. We see the big picture; you don’t. We do not fall for your scare tactics. Therefore, we will not waste our votes on Obama. He cannot win.
Posted by: georgia | May 27, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
‘So, mixing up Auschwitz and Buchenwald makes a man so vile?! I have never seen such a moronic bunch of comments in my 53 yrs. You folks are really apes.’
I guess it leaves a more lasting impression if you or your family were incarcerated in one of them…..
Posted by: Questioner | May 27, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Obama lies all the time:: Thank you, I was getting tired posting these items! I appreciate your help..Hillary or McCain …..and we Jews do not believe this lying piece of dog poop!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 27, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Obama is desperate for votes so he needs to make up stuff. He does not have much substance. What’s new!
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
A V.I. super for Clinton
UPDATE: Rodriguez, in fact, switched from Obama, for a net gain of two to Clinton.
Posted by: SD | May 27, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
I can’t see where this is such a big deal, At least he is not ducking sniper fire and gets his words twisted like McBrain does.
Posted by: Jean | May 27, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Really, the “hope” is gone from the Obama campaign. It’s politics as usual.
Posted by: Maggie | May 27, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
You would think the “Presumptive POTUS” would at least get his story-or his history–or his map straight!
Would he even know where to point the missile if he got that 3AM phone call?
Posted by: 12SpeakOut | May 27, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
In the words of Michelle Obama in February when asked if Hillary Clinton was the nominee, would she support Mrs. Clinton? Her response was….”I will have to think about it”. Well, Mrs. Obama, if you your husband is the nominee, many, many Clinton supporters will “have to think about it”. Hmmmm…..words do come back to bite you in the butt!
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
sorry PhillyPaul.
Posted by: o jim | May 27, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Obama’s dirty secrets are coming out!!
Welcome to the BIG LEAGUES!!
David from texas….you said it best.
Posted by: SD | May 27, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Did the Empty Suit’s uncle go into the Army voluntarily, or was he drafted? It probably doesn’t matter – the media wing of the Obama campaign is obviously intent on pushing Obama. Really bad judgment on his supporter’s part, and really wrong for the media to promote someone so obviously unqualified and so blatantly inferior to the Republican candidate. There’s still time for Hillary.
Posted by: K.F. Miller | May 27, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
seriously? this is what it has come down to? outrage that obama mistook auschwitz for buchenwald? after eight years of lies that have cost the lives of 4,000+ american soldiers, tens of thousands of innocent iraqis and several trillion dollars… we’re playing “gotcha” over obama getting the name of a nazi death camp wrong in an unscripted aside to a soldier. – not that anyone is disputing his great uncle’s service, mind you – only that, and it bears repeating: that obama got the name wrong. wow. just… wow.
Posted by: PW | May 27, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
The caustic stupidity is too much. Obama hating has turned into a favorite pastime for some unthinking people. Good luck all.
Posted by: o jim | May 27, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
To SD:
I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as all the secrets Obama is hiding that will be coming forth. This is going to be interesting…..It seems that he is telling a lie almost daily now, and the MSM can’t hide it anymore…..stories are breaking daily about the negatives of Obama!
Posted by: david from texas | May 27, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
OJim: Obama said: “I was a Constitutional Lawyer” LIAR – he was a senior lecturer ON LEAVE
Obama said :I was a Professor of Law” LIAR..he was a senior lecturer ON LEAVE!! He is such a liar…he can’t keep his stories…he should practice what Martin Luther King said..”the truth will set you free”! You can always remember the TRUTH but lies can’t stay in your memory!!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 27, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Obama please give the name of this uncle or at least a clue. Is he on the grandma with chickens side or the racist white grandma’s side?
Posted by: Liar | May 27, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
You see, what is wrong with american politics, why good men are never allowed to rule the country? Because, we keep concentrating on very mundane things instead of issues and the very irresponsible press that we have keep encouraging that.
Let he who has never made a mistake cast the first stone. Obama did not get the facts wrong, he only made a harmless mistake with the name. He had a grand father who was a part of the liberating force in Buchenwald and not Auschwitz as he stated.
For anybody that has never made a mistake in his or her life, congratulations! But for reasonable folks, mistakes do happen and it’s part of life. Both candidates have endured many sleepless days and nights and they are bound to make such gaffes whether they like it or not.
America will never get back on its feet and become once again a great country that it was, if we as people keep keeping good men with visions down, because of one harmless gaffe or another. It is high time we had a rethink about what we consider important. May God bless America!!!
Posted by: dew5050 | May 27, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
April 18th — Lies within lies.
Obama defended himself of charges that he was an elitist by saying, “For example, I was going to a fancy prep school, and my mother was on food stamps while she was getting her Ph.D.” as a defense.
I got curious to know when Anna received her Ph.D. Here is the Wikipedia entry:
In 1992 she earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawai’i with a dissertation titled Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against All Odds.
That was thirteen years after Obama graduated from his “fancy prep school.”
Obama consciously conflated these two events to produce a defense he knows to be untrue.
Posted by: pharmacist | May 27, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Do a little research, he did give a name of the Uncle.
Posted by: Thinking | May 27, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Thinking, and the name is?
Posted by: Liar | May 27, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
This is for the Hillary fans. Hillary few days ago said; “If I am not the nominee, then I will work my heart out for…”
She knows Obama. she know he is worthed working her heart out for him.
About Auschwitz/Buchenwald, Obama is telling the truth. His great uncle did liberate the concentration camp. It was traumatic for him to be a witness…
ABC News is giving you old news…
Many clarifications were given since these ABC News…
Posted by: Neta | May 27, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
we have to support mccain, it’s sad but he is the lesser of the two evils. obama is just up there cause people don’t want to oppose him because he is black, and it is the cool thing to support a black person for president. this guy is a blabbering fool, he doesn’t know how many states there are, he can’t remember what his grandfather did in the military, his preacher preached hate againist america but obama was unaware for over 20 years his true feelings, and distanced himself after it came out in the media. his wife is an idiot who just once and recently was proud to be an american, and then obama starts playing a race card almost and says leave my wife out of this, well don’t put a ignorant woman who is anti-american out there to make speechs on your behalf. we have got to get this country going in the right way. it’s got to almost be aother civil war, people have gathered themselves in certain states with the most anti american people ie california, mass., new york, all of the northeast. the rest of the country still has there sense but not enough electoral votes. this country is falling apart and it’s only going to have to be seperation before we rip ourselves apart
Posted by: disgusted | May 27, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
So, in the interest of fairness [I am a steadfast Hillary supporter], here are the facts [as put out by Barack's campaign] concerning his great-uncle’s involvement in concentration camp liberating;
“But in its statement today, the Obama campaign said the candidate’s great uncle, who the campaign says was his grandmother’s brother, was a member of the 89th Infantry Division, which liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of Buchenwald. The campaign also provides a link to the U.S. Holocaust Museum, but this a description of the 89th Infantry’s part. It also provided a separate link to the 89th’s role here.”
So, there you have it; I figure that Senator Barack Obama was COMPLETELY AWARE that he was lying about the facts, its just that he and his speechwriter must have realized that “Ohrduf” does not have quite the impact that Auschwitz” does. Or the bragging rights, huh Barack.
This guy THINKS that he is smarter than most, but I’d just refer to it as “swarmy” instead.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Neta,
I don’t care how many times Hillary tells us to vote for Obama. It will never happen.
Arrogant,delusional,egomaniac…these only begin to describe Obama.
Posted by: SD | May 27, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Great uncle not simple uncle; Buchenwald not Auschwitz.
I’m afraid I can’t work up much excitement about this “scandal”.
Posted by: Lee C. ― U.S.A. | May 27, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
The Truth is Out There:
And even if he didn’t throw Grandma under the bus, he certainly threw her in the same box with Reverend Wright (I’m not quite sure which fate is worse):
“I cannot disown him (Wright) any more than I can disown my “white” grandmother…..”
Posted by: SandyB | May 27, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
The glaring difference between this incident and Hillary’s Bosnia gaff is that Obama simply made an error in relating the story of something that happened to a great uncle sixty-three years ago, while Hillary “mis-remembered” a relatively recent personal experience.
Posted by: Sam A. | May 27, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
The RNCorporate Media has again sunk to new depths, ridiculing and trivializing a pivotal moment in the history of our Greatest Generation over yet another absurd technicality. Those of us who are regular and proud Americans will continue to honor those who served and saved the world from fascism, even as ABC/Disney and other elite mouthpieces degrade their memory, just as they ridiculed the Roosevelts mercilessly during the family’s years of military service overseas during WWII. Read “As He Saw It” by Elliott Roosevelt (FDR’s son, an Army major in WWII) to discover the real truth about our corrupt corporate media…
Posted by: MidwestCommonSense | May 27, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
you think serving should be a prerequisite for being president?? i guess adams and jefferson were not worthy to be president then?
Posted by: jaison Biagini | May 27, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Why is it racist only if you’re not going to vote for Obama?
And where did you get this information:
“Obama has 61% of the Jewish vote. Know why? Because everybody is tired of being told that race *should* be an issue (Hillary).”
Have you every heard the word “Chortle”?
That seems about as expressive as I can get about this tidbit which apparently comes from a can as in “Yes, we CAN make up some new statistics for you!”
I’m Jewish….. and I never would have guessed! But if 61 percent of whomever you asked said they were pro B O prior to this latest blunder…. you probably have at least…. oh possibly one percent left.
The Jewish people doesn’t take concentration camp incarceration lightly!
Posted by: Questioner | May 27, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
You know I would normally give Obama a pass on this. After all, politicians embellish and like good stories and are prone to inflate their rhetoric into a nice plot line. But afer all the abuse that the Obama camp and his sidekick media pals have heaped on Hillary for stuff like this, it’s wearing thin. It was his great uncle not his uncle, and it was a subcamp of Buchenwald in Germany not Auschwitz in Poland. And we’ve heard his tales about his grandather, married to his typical white person grandma, who fought in Patton’s army. So again, it points up his hypocrisy, his playing fast and loose with the facts yet again, and his
repeated tendency to reach for family military experience to cover his own lack of it.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 27, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
That 61% of the Jewish vote is pure bull!! The Jewish community has been very skeptical about Obama from day 1!! Especially because of his anti_Jewish friends…try again
Posted by: micha6888 | May 27, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Once again; Senator Barack Obama was well aware that he was lying about the name of the concentration camp; its just that he did not think that “a subcamp of Buchenwald” does not sound as dramatic as “Auschwitz”. Man, Im a “typical white person Catholic” but if I were Jewish, I’d be incredibly insulted.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 27, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
SIMPLE QUESTION: WHAT WAS SAID GREAT UNCLE’S NAME?
The research wheels will either propel or crush Obama’s story from there.
Remember the lie he told about the LIFE magazine story of a black man who bleached his skin white that Obama read in Jakarta as a boy that was “pivotal”?
It doesn’t exist.
Remember when he said he was in a fancy prep academy while his mother worked on her Ph.D. and was on food stamps? She graduated 13 years after his high school graduation.
Obama manufactures himself, and can’t keep up with his latest version of lie, was it v.3.4.a? or v.3.4.b?
Posted by: pharmacist | May 27, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I wish the media will fully scrutinize Obama. They seem to pounce on other candidates over gaffes. It is still not too check out all of Obama’s stories.
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Obama and his supporters have to got to be the dumbest people around.
So Harvard “graduate” Obama and his “educated voter” supporters can’t tell one camp from another. Got the history all wrong.
And these people are considered “smart?”
Posted by: libby | May 27, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Libby, you make some great points. The bottom line is that Obama is a con artist. All this “educated voters” have drunk his Kool-Aid. They believe everything he says even though his stories are full of inconsistencies.
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Will the media check to see if Obama even had an uncle in WWII? What if he made the whole thing up? I’d like to see this verified.
Posted by: doug | May 27, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Skate,
Don’t you know that you are watching history in the making? It is the year that the media decided to pick a President and run with it. It is the year when bloggers decided, “What the heck! We can be “journalists, too!” Of course, journalism really has gone out the window with reading and writing skills, not to mention unbiased reporting. It’s every man for himself, and we can spin and spin until we get sick and tired of spinning–whichever comes first. Pick a candidate and start bashing away. By November, we can all start bashing on the same one for four years.
It is the craziest election I have ever witnessed, even counting all those already in the history books. It is too bad that all of us do not read history and learn from mistakes.
Who do you think has made the most boo boos, lies, mispeaks, forgetfulness moments? Grab one and run with it!
Posted by: georgia | May 27, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I only know that if I were addressing a large group of U.S. Military Veterans on Memorial Day, many of whom had probably served during WWII, I would certainly want to make darn sure I knew which Allied Army liberated which concentration camp before I attempted to speak about such events as a future, potential commander-in-chief.
It is an insult to all of the brave men and women who served so honorably in WWII, and to the descendents and the memory of the Holocaust victims for this elitist snob to not care enough about what he speaks to get his facts straight…………..
Posted by: SandyB | May 27, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
doug | May 27, 2008 10:13:09 PM
YOU check!!!!!
I’m for Hillary…. and WE NEED TO CHECK THE BLOODY INFORMATION FOR OURSELVES!!!!!
You certainly don’t want to trust B O’s posters to tell the truth, would you?
Posted by: Questioner | May 27, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
This is getting out of hand. When Hillary misspeaks the Obama supporters jump all over her. And now the Hillary supporters are jumping all over Obama for getting the name of the concentration camp wrong. My god, look how long and hard they both have been campaigning. They are exhausted. I’d like to see any one of you doing this day in and day out. I don’t know how they do it. I applaud both of them for their fortitude. And I think both sides have been way to hard on the other canidate.
Posted by: lisa | May 27, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Here’s a clue: Look at the video. Do you see a teleprompter? No? Well, if there’s no teleprompter that means Obama is about to say something stupid.
Works every time.
Posted by: SD | May 27, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Libby, your electorial college reference is great for Hillary. But, Obama has been preordained by the Party Good Ole Boys. His credibility obviously does not matter to these elitist.
Posted by: kim | May 27, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Obama, what’s your great uncle’s name? Is that too much to ask? Am I interrupting your waffle?
Posted by: pharmacist | May 27, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
questioner:
If I could get the name of this uncle I’d be happy to check any way I could. I think I’d win the Pulitzer prize for uncovering this one!! Anybody have his name?
Posted by: doug | May 27, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
LISA…. YOU’VE GOT IT WRONG!
iN YOUR POST YOU DON’T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT B O might actually have done something wrong…. only that they jump all over Hillary should she do something wrong!
Obama is a sexist malapropping smoooth
politician…… . He makes a LOT of mistakes which you guys wave off as nada!
Don’t blame his outrageous gaffes on being tired!
He took a vacation.
He took time off NOT to attend the Martin Luther King memorials….. the only candidate who did, by the way!
He’s young and energetic; just provide him with a teleprompter… just like George Bush….. and he’ll probably get us through the next atomic war!
Posted by: Questioner | May 27, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
kim a lot of us are sick of the Bush and Clinton dynasties. And maybe your so called good ole boys are too.
Posted by: d | May 27, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
How Dare Obama..
Great article…thanks.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
You know, I just have to wonder how many of the World War II vets in that crowd yesterday listenting to this clown speak picked up on the mistakes in his speech and were smiling or snickering to themselves about it…..
This fraud is fooling no one…..
Posted by: SandyB | May 27, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
questioner, what are you talking about “you guys”. And what do I have wrong. I will vote for either Hillary or Obama because I believe in their policies. I do know Obama took a break from campaigning during spring break to spend it with his young daughters. Do you have a problem with him because of that. I find your post to be outrageous and paranoid. You are looking at miniscule things with the canidates, I just care about the issues.
Posted by: lisa | May 27, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
All right Doug!
I figure it’s a lie.
But we could have come up with a great story!
WatcH…. Somebody will…..
Not TRUE… but circuitous and unbelievable,
Posted by: Questioner | May 27, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Mia: I know exactly what would work to make sure Obama doesn’t win the election. Hillary should declare herself as an independent on the ballot and that would definately take thousands of votes away from Obama and McCain would become president. If it was me instead of Hillary I would do that and wouldn’t care about the DNC or Obama. This has been a dog eat dog campaign and Hillary should go for the bone.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 27, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
This weekend when Hillary was being torn apart,unfairly I feel, about the RFK comment, one Obama suppoter wrote in expressing his political preference and then saying that this hysterical reaction was much ado about nothing. I appreciated his honesty then and will now return the favor. I am a Hillary supporter but also find this whole uproar absolutely absurb. He made a mistake. Big deal.
Posted by: Polly | May 27, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Thanks Jeremy. Already sign-up
Posted by: SD | May 27, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
He misspoke and recalled the wrong concentration camp. You people and the RNC are really grasping at straws here.
Posted by: Goodness | May 27, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
So Goodness how would you explain Hillary and the Bosnia sniper fire.
Posted by: d | May 27, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
chirp chirp
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!!! To all the Obama supporters, how is that any different that Hillary’s sniper fire claim???? It’s obvious that both candidates are just tired and are making mistakes.
Posted by: Danny | May 27, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
John Pen the majority doesn’t want Hillary. The country is split. The media and the DNC doesn’t tell us how to vote.
Posted by: lisa | May 27, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Michelle
Obama is half white
could you just half like him…..
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
where do you think he got those huge ears from
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Obama said there are 57 states in the US.
Auschwitz, Buchenwald are way too complicated to him.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
J, and I guess Bosnia was too complicated for Hillary. All that sniper fire really gets to you.
Posted by: d | May 27, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
ryan
eventually you will act like an adult….
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I wish I could be Obama Girl because I got a crush on Obama.
Posted by: ryan | May 27, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
he send shivers up my leg when I hear him speak
Posted by: ryan | May 27, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Omentum,
Eventually you will learn how to answer questions. Unfortunately your brain has stopped growing. You’re stuck like this. Man, that must suck.
While Oprah is a topic. Do you guys know she went to Obama’s church for two years and left because of one of wright’s sermons.
Posted by: Ryan | May 27, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
THERE’S TWO RYAN’S
You’ll know the true Ryan by the intelligent words he speaks. OMENTUM, you are truly a piece of work. You should consider yourself lucky that you can remain anonymous on here. For real, how old are you???
Posted by: Ryan | May 27, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Ryan…
I know that she left, but not sure exactly why. Wright berated her saying that she just didn’t want to tithe
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 27, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Buchenwald is less a concentration camp than Auschwitz, I suppose.
Maybe he was exhausted…………….
Obama is a leader who wants to gather ideas from a wide variety of individuals and work together to create a better future for all of us.
Clinton isn’t bad; just old school and strident. A poor sport. And, McCain is just,well, I am not sure. I don’t agree with most of his policies: war, tax cuts for the wealthy, health care for the few, and no choice for reproductive rights.
I like a guy with style, is articulate, and has experienced a middle class life, complete with soul-searching and mistakes.
Posted by: mamothree | May 27, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Hillary has been offered the role of Lady MacBeth in the Alabama Shakespeare festival.
Posted by: Peter Jensen | May 27, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
I have noticed from the beginning that Obama’s campaign was basically branding him. From the picture on his website…like him being the Messiah in white floating above…to the change and hope mantra.
How can people fall for this stuff? Do they not read about his political past? About his voting record?
I mean…just forget about Clinton…forget about McCain…
Why should Obama be our President? What makes him the better choice?
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 27, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Ryan I am not Omentum but I am voting for Obama because I am sick of the Bush and Clinton dynasties. It’s time to get them out of the white house which Bill disgraced. And Obama and Hillary have the same policies.
Posted by: d | May 27, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
omentum is coming up to 17.
Posted by: Questioner | May 27, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
come on, enough of the stupid “got you” politics. My father was captured in one of the labor camps in China cultural revolution, in which millions of people died. But I don’t, nor does anyone else in my family, know the name except maybe my mother. When the stories were told over and over again in the family, we learned how he was tortured, labored, starved over these years, but rarely did the name of the camp got mentioned. Obama’s great uncle did participated in libration of the concentration camp at Buchenwald. So he is accurate in the basic fact but was sloppy in confirming the exact name of the camp before he spoke. But in NO WAY was this comparable to the snipe fire lie, which was made up intentionally to boot Hillary’s case of foreign policy experience.
Posted by: superclear | May 27, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Obama is young, he has run a superior campaign while Hillary and McCain have fumbled. Right off the starting block he shows much more executive ability.
Posted by: Peter Jensen | May 27, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Super…why would Clinton need to “boot up” anything?
Obama has nothing over her in that area anyway.
If this is an example of a “fish story” than Clinton’s was not different…at least be fair.
Her account is in her book so it was not like it would not get back to her had she done it on purpose..
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
When JFK ran where was the great accomplishment of his past?
Posted by: Peter Jensen | May 27, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Actually I have been researching Obama for months now…this is nothing new…
I just want to find like-minded people that are not far right Dem bashers.
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 27, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
I was feeling good about Hillary until I saw how she ran her campaign. Her campaign tactics seem to be inspired by those of the Bush Administration.
Posted by: Peter Jensen | May 27, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
COME ON!!!!!
HE DIDN’T EVEN GIVE THE NAME OF HIS UNCLE!
HE’S A PREVARICATOR… A TALE TELLER….A L I A R !!!
Posted by: BLUE BIRD | May 27, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Nobody died from this mistake.
Posted by: Stitch | May 27, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Sylvia from Oslo. HRC did not participate in any Irish peace talks that supposedly took place in a Belfast Hall. No such meeting ever took place. The participants have made it very clear she was not ever involved. She had tea with some dignataries and wives and then turned on the Christmas Lights. End of that one. Now this still working full-time LOL who does have an education and a decent job is off to sleep – thanks to Bush, I have delayed my retirement!
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 27, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
My question is…why must Obama’s supporters continue to talk about Clinton?
I thought it was over?
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
barrack obama is TEFLON.
fire away
Just please respect him when he is in the oval office
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
If they give this nominee to obama they will have alot of pissed off people voting for McCain….Obama is like with McCain said way out of touch….Hillary is more electable then Obama and the DNC know it so it’s time for them to give her what she deserves and get us someone that will be elected…Not someone thats going to cost us the white house….Hillary The One That Loves Respects And Is Proud Of Our Country…..
Posted by: PCC | May 27, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Raliegh Voter
I think Obama said he is still in a contest with clinton.
and because we can
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
well i guess this misstatement gives the clinton and mccain bloggers the opportunity to jump all on him. that fact of the matter is his grandmothers brother who is still alive confirmed the story and he confused the concentration camps. my uncle liberated auschwitz my uncle liberated bushenwald. only difference is anytime anyone talks about the holocaust aushwitz normally comes out. but attack if you must it wont change the fact that the story is true
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 27, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Well I am thinking it is because Obama’s supporters have nothing to support their own candidates foreign policy experience.
But if you have a list of it, I would be more than willing to take a look at it.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
well ryan.
that should go across the board.
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Omentum, you are naive.
Posted by: Ryan | May 27, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
The point of Obama’s story isn’t if it is factual or not…it just amounts to political pandering.
First the Cuban Americans, then the Jewish people. Is there any demographic that Obama hasn’t pandered to in the past few days? The Native Americans too…I wonder what is coming tomorrow…
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
hahha
you guys still cant believe it huh… it is still kinda a hard for me to believe tooo.. but its true
This rookie came out of nowhere and trounced the MOST well known name in modern political history. He became famous on a friggin speech a the covention 4 years ago… Hill has been around forever ….
how could this happen
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Omentum | May 27, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
So when Hillary makes a mistake (Bosnia) we all pile in and kill her, but when Obama makes a similar mistake (uncle/great uncle) (two different concentration camps — kind of a big difference, by the way) it’s entirely acceptable.
Wonderful. We have a man who lies for political gain, and that seems to be acceptable to large numbers of people/supporters.
Posted by: Beth | May 27, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Omentum…it really is not that hard to believe..
I mean George W was voted in Twice…
Nothing amazes me in politics anymore
and nothing surprises me when it comes to the gullibility of the American people…
Your a perfect example of that..
still waiting on that list of Obama’s foreign policy experience…
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 27, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Allamr18: his great-uncle, Charles Payne, did NOT confirm this story. Where is the link for YOUR lie?
Posted by: abc | May 27, 2008 11:45:40 PM
the guy is still alive and bill burton confirmed it as well as cnn and msnbc and fox news.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 27, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Still avoiding the questions and talking about Wal-Mart. When Sen. McCain is in the oval office maybe he can put on a blue vest for a photo-op or something. Obama is going to get stomped in the debates. McCain is going to win in a landslide.
Posted by: Ryan | May 27, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
It’s possible that Obama is not the one that changed the story. But let’s not pretend that it is a simple mix up of names. Ohrdruf was a forced labor camp (not a concentration camp or part of the final solution), and it was abandoned when it was found. A bit of a stretch to say it was liberated. Also, Obama said Uncle not Great Uncle, and didn’t mention a name until the correction.
Posted by: J | May 27, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
OKAY… IT’S OUT THERE… FOUR HOURS AGO ;-)
I still didn’t find the relationship to B O…. just the name… and no history as to whether he even served in the army.
I know they had records in ’45… How come we weren’t offered any?
One would think the event would have been traumatic enough that those papers would be carefully preserved.
Posted by: BLUE BIRD | May 27, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Funny how the MSM will go out of its way to attempt to confirm one of the Obama Family fairy tales, but will sit idly by while everyone trashes Hillary for her gaffes.
Posted by: SandyB | May 27, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Obama is not a man of honor. In order to insure that Obama was to be the Democrat in his IL Senate race, his lawyers disqualified all of Obama’s opponents, all 4 of them, one by one. They took them to court and kept challenging signatures on petitions until each of them were out of contention. He was unopposed and won.
Ok…not really a big deal. But it happened a second time. The Republican he ran against, Blair Hull, was the front-runner…that is until journalists and TV broadcasters for still unexplained reasons, became aware of a “skeleton” in his closet. 6 years previously, Hull was going through a divorce and his wife alleged that Hull had threatened to kill her. Hull described that his divorce was bitter and that he had never been charged with that offense. Because of this, Hull ended up in third with only 10% of the vote. Obama ended up being the winner. Ok…maybe a coincidence….until it happened for a third time.
Now Obama set his sights on the US Senate. His Republican opponent, Jack Ryan, was the “ideal” candidate. Once again, some information go out to the media. Lawyers had to fight to get sealed records opened. They showed that Ryan’s ex-wife had accused him of taking her to a sex club. These were unproven allegations, just as were in the last scenario. Of course, Obama was the beneficiary in all of these situations. It kind of makes you wonder about what type of President this man would make doesn’t it? It did when I read it for the first time. As far as from what I have researched, this stuff is all true. I believe that the Obama campaign played the race card, painting the Clinton’s as racists. His campaign knows how to play the media or they are in the media’s pocket. I am not sure, but it all is suspicious.
The media controls our country and it is about flash over substance. That is what I feel it is all about…appearances and that is what I believe Obama is all about. This is just one of the many reasons why I’m turning down Obama.
Posted by: Independent Voter | May 28, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
I agree Kim
Posted by: Love the USA | May 28, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Especially when Obama is supposed to be all about change and a different kind of politics.
When you look at who his primary backers are…they are a bunch of old school politicians…
Posted by: Love the USA | May 28, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
The researchers need Charlie Payne’s middle initial to discern all of this, there’s 2 pages of Charlie Paynes at the WWII archives.
Posted by: pharmacist | May 28, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Sorry Omentum..
It is something that Obama knows nothing about when one looks at all of the money he has already spent which exceeds what will be coming in…
So since you feel that way, let’s just say that they cancel each other out on that one…
Care to choose another issue?
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 28, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
kim:
I agree with your post 100%, however, he was speaking to veterans on Memorial Day, not Veterans’ Day which is in November…….right after the General Election, which Obama will never win….
But you are correct, he is extremely disingenuous.
Posted by: SandyB | May 28, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
I tell ya
Hannity would bust one seeing how Ryan and Raliegh voter parrots his lines.
you continue to ask for his policies although they are on his website. I have been stating that obama will get our troops out of iraq, use war as a last resort, use diplomacy, actually form a global war on terrorism. but i know already you will not accept that and say he has no policy so you can continue to parrot hannitys talking point.
You guys are going to get hannity gold starts in the mail.. heck he may give them to you in person because you are two awesome little minions.
Posted by: Omentum | May 28, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Lessee here… hmmmm.. Hillary as smart and careful and calculating as she is mentions RFKs assination… was that just a slip??? Sure it was. LOL Hillary knew exactly what she was doing and pulling another one of her famous, underhanded con tricks. Man is she slimy or what. Her and BJ ‘I could have rung his neck” Bill certainly deserve each other. A real pair those two.. can’t you just see BJ Billy yelling out Monica’s name from one of the toilet stalls.
Posted by: cha cha | May 28, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Is Hannity another one of Obama’s questionable associates?
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 28, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Omentum…
I do not recall asking you about any of Obama’s policies…
Maybe Ryan was wrong…maybe you are just a really old hag that cannot remember anything…
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 28, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Independent Voter:
Yes, it all sounds VERY strange indeed.
The stories you have revealed in your post above, especially their patterned, repetitive nature, are usually the type of story that the media THRIVES upon.
It’s very odd that none of the “investigative reporters” all of the major news networks have are not delving any deeper into these “coincidences.”
Kind of makes you wonder whose pockets are being lined.
Posted by: SandyB | May 28, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Obama cannot even talk without a prepared speech delivered from the teleprompter – think he has proven this several times!
Re-VOTES would solve the FL & MI problem.
RE-VOTES were scheduled & funded, State Officials, DNC, & Clinton agreed to all terms – OBAMA’S ATTORNEY’S
BLOCKED RE-VOTES!!!!! WHY WHY??????
obama is trying to control this election with his dirty political tricks – this will NOT be tolerated!
WHY were the Re-VOTES BLOCKED?
Posted by: Molly | May 28, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Hi Allamr18:
I think we would all appreciate a linkn to an interview with Obama’s great-uncle Charlie Payne;-)
Thanks in advance
Posted by: Fact Checker | May 28, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Allamr18: Let me make sure I’m clear –are you saying that Anderson Cooper, et al, tracked down Mr. Charles Payne, great-uncle to Obama. And Mr. Payne, himself, verified this story? Well, I guess that would just end this thread eh? That would be the scoop of the week — too bad it didn’t happen and you know it. Why do you spread lies?
Posted by: abc
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Obama’s mother was an only child, as was her mother. Obama’s maternal grandfather had one brother, Ralph Dunham, who was born in 1916, and would have been about the right age to have served in WWII. This Ralph Dunham would have been Obama’s Great-Uncle. There was a Ralph ERNEST Dunham listed on one site as having served in the U.S. Army during WWII, but other than the name, that record is silent. So, as far as I can tell at this point, the mysterious Ralph Dunham MIGHT be the person to whom Obama is referring, but it could not be any of his other male relatives, as they were all in Kenya.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 28, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Ryan
I know you are slow…. but I was hoping you would notice that I am ignoring you.
Posted by: Omentum | May 28, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
I feel so sorry for the guy. He is so bent, I feel I should lend him my spine.
Posted by: comicreleif | May 28, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
@Yavo Lem:
Thanks for shedding some light on this. I’m hopeful we’ll eventually learn the facts.
Posted by: Fact Checker | May 28, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Well allamr18, I’m about to enlist in the Army. I don’t want us in Iraq but we can’t just run. Talk about losing credibility. We need to build up the iraqi military so they can do this themselves. It’s going to take years and we’ll probably never completely leave. Look at korea. We’ve been there for 60 years now.
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Well allamr18, I’m about to enlist in the Army. I don’t want us in Iraq but we can’t just run. Talk about losing credibility. We need to build up the iraqi military so they can do this themselves. It’s going to take years and we’ll probably never completely leave. Look at korea. We’ve been there for 60 years now.
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008 12:27
i commend you on that my man. i plan on doing naval reserve once i finish the first portion of my graduate school. but with korea they asked us to stay. the government asked us to remain in korea. i dont believe the iraqi government wants us to stay. but he didnt say run he said withdraw from iraq where al qaeda never was and focus on the places they were afghanistan pakistan and parts of sudan.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 28, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
That GI bill is good but the one McCain backed is better. It hands out the bigger scholarships to people that have been serving the longest. Obama doesn’t want a military. It’s just a cover to weaken ours. Corn ethanol is not the answer (I’m not saying you said it was) I’m just wondering how Obama will pay for all of this. Our taxes are going to go through the roof. The media fails to mention this EVER.
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
OMENTUM, be quiet allamr18 and I are actually having a meaningful discussion. You must be jealous he actually knows what he is talking about.
alla, The Iraqi government does not want us to leave. Trust me Bush does not want to be there. They might not want us there for 60+ years but they DO NOT want us to get out right now, it would be chaos and we would have to go back costing us even MORE lives.
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
hat GI bill is good but the one McCain backed is better. It hands out the bigger scholarships to people that have been serving the longest. Obama doesn’t want a military. It’s just a cover to weaken ours. Corn ethanol is not the answer (I’m not saying you said it was) I’m just wondering how Obama will pay for all of this. Our taxes are going to go through the roof. The media fails to mention this EVER.
well if we are staying in the war for 100 years like mccain says and he wants to reward people for staying in how will the benefit from the GI Bill if they are always fighting? and PTSD has increased 50 percent in thelast 4 years. the study mccain says will decrease enlistment by 16 percent will also increase enlistment but 16 percent. and our taxes have been so low its part of the reason we are in a 9 trillion dollar debt. we have no income.
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 28, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Of course the most amusing part of all of this is that Obama is so accustomed to all of his adoring multitudes (the MSM included) accepting everything he says at face value, and never questioning his word, that he assumes he can just rattle off any fact or statistic and never be taken to task about it.
I’m certain that never in a million years did this phony ever think when he was spinning this family tale during one of his typical storytelling sessions that millions of people would be out there questioning its accuracy and verifying that his relatives exist.
This man wants to be the PRESIDENT. Shouldn’t the media have been authenticating his personal history and background since day one?????????
Posted by: SandyB | May 28, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
The more he opens his mouth the more “footage” he gets.He should keep his mouth shut and force the white house door down. He can’t keep showing how stupid he is. ” wait until you get elected Big O”. Don’t blow your “chances” You’re almost there!
Posted by: comicreleif | May 28, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
alla, The Iraqi government does not want us to leave. Trust me Bush does not want to be there. They might not want us there for 60+ years but they DO NOT want us to get out right now, it would be chaos and we would have to go back costing us even MORE lives.
well when we left vietnam how much more chaos broke out? how many more american lives were lost?
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 28, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Come on EYES
I respected Hillary until I realized that she started running as a Republican. Once you start giving McCain, Fox news, and rush limbaugh praise… sorry you have lost me FOREVER.
Posted by: Omentum | May 28, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
McCain only stated he wouldn’t mind if we were there 100 years “if no servicemen or women were getting hurt” The media and people like OMENTUM have taken that all out of context. You should look it up. Read ALL of what he said. I’ve heard that 100 years crap from a lot of liberals. Not one has actually heard all of what he said. All I hear is “He wants us in Iraq for 100 years”
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Tell me how brilliant this is.
Factions in the middle east have been fighting for thousands of years. The have grudges that date back to the biblical days.
So we in can change thousands and thousands of years of unrest by 2013. Someone needs a sanity check. We are fighting an asymetrical war that consists of people strapping bombs to themselves to be martyrs and be rewarded with virgins at their feet. This war consists of road side bombs that will never be contained. Can you say sitting ducks. Not to mention the new occupiers (US) who will be fight this war till the end of time because we are the new faction in which they have a grudge on.
Our men and women me too much to be caught in the middle of an inevitable CIVIL WAR falling for no reason. let them blast each other to a pulp. When america had its CIVIL WAR who came to occupy the US no one.
Posted by: Omentum | May 28, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
signing out.
Posted by: Omentum | May 28, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Alright OMENTUM, I’ve seen why you’re voting for Obama. Because he’s a dem not named Clinton. You’d probably vote for Howard Dean or Jimmy Carter. Just because they’re NOT republicans. That’s a terrible reason to vote for somebody. You need a wake up call. You’re a naive little girl. Go to bed, you must be tired.
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
@ Fact Checker 12:55:34 AM:
You are exactly right (in your last post). Indeed it was an interesting trip. And bumpy. The roads had hardly seen a repair since WWII. But besides from that, the culture and landscape of former DDR were breathtaking, quite different from the endless grey concrete stereotype I had imagined. And the city of Weimar must be one of the most beautiful towns in Northern Europe. Highly recommended.
Good night. And thanks for the recommendation.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | May 28, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
So what? I give Obama the OK on this. It wasn’t harmful to anyone. I still won’t vote for him. I don’t want to be like the libs who attack with all 3 brains cells everything who they can’t identify as intelligent. If he wants to make a statement he should rehearse before he talks. His advisor’s really suck at helping him. A truly handicapped campaign.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
amazing- that -A senator running for the highest job in the country would make a mistake about an uncle or great uncle, that cammot be found in military service,libeating a death camp libeated by the Russians.
To give this speech to Veterans on Memorial day using the Jewish community is really distastfull.
Do we really want this kind of leader?
I don’t think so!!!!!
Posted by: Chris | May 28, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Obama is not the scary one to worry about.Think about his friends! who he will put on the presidential cabinet.A real disaster in the making. His friends are hate mongers and nut cases.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Stop sweating the small stuff. His crazy friends are what we need to worry about. they will be running the country while Obama stands around Looking good in the suit.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Charles W. Payne , his uncle, enlisted in the Navy.with no disrespect to him- could Obama plese explain how a navy man becomes infantry and liberates anyone.Was it the Russian Navy, im confused but I am sure this will all get straighten out when he writes his next book “how I lost the nomination”
Posted by: Chris | May 28, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
He’s probably make Sharpton attorney general. Could you imagine.
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
I find the movie alien a pleasant Dream compared to Obama and his friends.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
She is not a deciever.The press want you to think so. We are not naive. all politician lie through their teeth.
It’s an oximoron to be a politician and a Jesus Christ like @ the same time. It can never happen.
Who ever says this, is a pathalogical lier. Who ever beieves this is an idiot.
Hillary is a tested politician (read the definition of politician)and certainly knows how to deal and weal with any country! Duck the debates is no show of political or leadership wisdom. No debate , no resume, No job. NEXT!
Posted by: comicrelief | May 28, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Obama is a far left version of Bush. One is a good old boy liar, and the other is an elitist liar. Come on America, we can do better than these two.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
RealDeal and all others that have mentioned Hillary, McCain, or any others who wasn’t mentioned in the article: This story is about Obama!! He’s the “fool” that made up (or followed his camp’s instructions)to make up this lie to pander for votes. Plain and simple. Now i’m sure, by tomorrow we will hear either Obama or his camp start with ” the people don’t want to hear about something so trivial as this, they want to hear about issues”!! Their way of trying to control the minds of the voters, once again. He is a liar and a sneak and the people of America (most) aren’t stupid.
Posted by: jg | May 28, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
I can tell few, if any, of the posters here have been to the camps. They are extremely close together.
If we’re keeping track of mistakes for each party, the Dems can keep ‘em coming for the next 100 years and still not catch up to Old Dub. I’d wager he couldn’t come up with the name of either camp and if he could, I’d lay odds we wouldn’t recognize his pronunciation.
This BS is meant to distract us from the real issues…..We are without an energy policy. The majority of the population is without adequate health care. We have a war that is putting us into the Third World category.
If you ARE concerned about this issue, check out a map and let’s get over this non-issue.
Can we say WINDFALL PROFIT TAX?
Can we withdraw the credits for oil exploration for companies that are making record profits and not returning these to create new forms of energy?
Get a grip, people. Stop being played for chumps.
Posted by: Historian | May 28, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Wow! Someone hasn’t been paying attention to what Hillery had done and said for the last 16 years. NO! she can’t have said that or did that, you are all stupid! There is enough news footage to prove she is rotten to the core. Maybe you can tell us all what makes Hillery uniquely qualified to be president? She had never said .All we got from her was vague references and something about snipers.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
AWAKE! see the reality…….
Those of you are are educated better use your head…..
Obama is inexperienced, unkown, makes it up as he goes, has radical and racist mentors and close associates, has no record and the list goes on.
Recent votes have shown him loosing even the “so called” educated voter.
Between my wife an I we have five post graduate degrees (four Masters, and one Phd). We see through this fraud like worn out underware.
Their is no political savior, the world has not suddenly changed,it is still full of evil tyrants who if given a chance will eat Obama and his empty high sounding rhetoric for breakfast.
We must go with those who know the environment.
Hillary or McCain 08′
Posted by: AWAKE | May 28, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
I’m so tired of all the Lib’s in here changing the subject or cracking a joke trying to avoid talking about how crappy their nominee is. For real guys, why do you like Obama?
Posted by: Ryan | May 28, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
I wonder if Michelle was proud that her husband’s great uncle helped to liberate a concentration camp? Maybe she thought he was downright mean.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
Obama is not prepared to be president. Every one of his supporters are desperate for change.So they have chosen the most covenant person to attach their hopes on. By doing so they have blinded them selves to others who are better.Their desperation has caused everyone to be on edge. The stress has caused people to do and say things that they would never say or do. the children are acting out and saying nasty things to each other just like the media and all of us! We are all causing this. Left side right side is all bull. The best one in this race is McCain. He is not my first choice. He is still better qualified than Obama.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
Historian:
While I haven’t visited Buchenwald, I have visited Auschwitz several times.
Unlike Obama, MY great-uncle was a political prisoner in Dachau. He was an Austrian Socialist and a conscientious objector. He was indeed liberated by the American army.
The distinctions between Dachau, Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Buchenwald, are important to some people who care to remember the facts.
Is Obama’s flub a trivial matter?
Well, maybe – if using the tragedy of the Holocaust, spinning a story for political gain is a trivial matter, then I suppose this is trivial.
Are we all “chumps”, as you say, for giving this flub any thought at all?
Take comfort, I’m sure we’ll all soon be good little citizens and turn our attention to the policy issues you declaim we should all be considering.
BTW:
Buchenwald and Auschwitz are about 500 miles apart – not close in my book.
Posted by: Fact Checker | May 28, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
I wouldn’t vote for Obama for “Dog catcher”
What’s happened to the DNC, how have they allowed this questionable character to get this far?
Hillary or McCain in 2008!
Posted by: j | May 28, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
Obama is following on Cliton footsteps, what a shame. i am not from the USA and i think the USA is so corrupt that to become president people always lie. people cannot simply be honest and tell as it is. Shame on OBama. Obama was trying to tell Voters that his familly did great things for jews and therefore he qualify to be president. Obama is you will be a puppet why even bother to become president? because you will follow the same USA governments policies of terrorising all those who want to have their own way of life.
Posted by: Hot4real | May 28, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
Fact Checker,
You are exactly right! I think the distance from the SNIPER FIRE To Obama was way more than 500 miles!
Posted by: Davis | May 28, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
She is not a deciever.The press want you to think so. We are not naive. all politician lie through their teeth.
It’s an oximoron to be a politician and a Jesus Christ like @ the same time. It can never happen.
Who ever says this, is a pathalogical lier. Who ever beieves this is an idiot.
Hillary is a tested politician (read the definition of politician)and certainly knows how to deal and weal with any country! Duck the debates is no show of political or leadership wisdom. No debate , no resume, No job. NEXT!
Posted by: comicrelief | May 28, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Hot4real You have so many liberal friends that it is hard to find the truth.Truth is that those who run for office in all counties do lie. You are reading reports from the media and It s slanted with non American thoughts. The leaders of other countries who don’t like us are bullies and tyrants who need someone to control them. the people in those countries don’t seem to have the ability. We get called for help. France called for help and we got stuck in Nam.
We went to the aid in many countries and get no thanks. If we don’t go and give aid we are still hated.You sound like someone confused with some one else’s Ideas from the left media most likely.
Posted by: Rich Life | May 28, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Obama ran a campaign so filled with negative slander against Clinton. This week he went to Puerto Rico and campaigned, for the first time in weeks admitting this is still a race; the only thing his “mission accomplished”-strategy has done for him so far is turn off voters, loosing +41% in WV and +35% in KC. All those people are not racist.
When Obama-campaign last week ended a quite truce, trying to stick it unfairly to Clinon on the RFK-comments, he went too far. Clinton did not do that to Obama when he had his “sweetiegate”. No more favors, Obama is not deserving.
What comes around, goes around. Obama is a liar!
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 28, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Obama, Obama the FRAUD! Lies, all lies! Look at me, I’m a commenter!
Posted by: Jack | May 28, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Obama, the Audacity of lying and fairy tales. I am sure his books are full of stories like Auschwitz. He is divisive, deceiving, inexperienced, empty and a liar. Obama is unelectable.
Posted by: libre | May 28, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
KRove ========================
If you ‘ve got other things on your mind about Obama you can say that.
It’s clear you are not arguing with commonsense.
Even a baby knows you can not make a mistake about people shooting at you or bullets flying around you.
It is laughable to say she made a mistake. Call it what it is – childish, fraudulent and insane.
How old are you by the way?
Posted by: Geraldo | May 28, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
DeeDee….please, you are no different with all your name calling.
Obama will be scrutinized for everything he has said or will say by the republicans and it’s fair game, this is politics. All the rest of us can do is sit back and watch the show. When it’s over the media will let us know who they wanted to win.
If the past elections have not opened up your mind to the corruptness of elections, maybe this one will.
It is long past time for this country to have a THREE party system, if you agree REGISTER INDEPENDENT.
Posted by: '68 VNvet | May 28, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
For me the point here is that Obama is striving to achieve that idea that he is patriotic by using symbols of patriotism.
He now wears the flag pin, puts his hand over his heart, makes an effort to make McCain seem like he doesn’t care about vets, and ties himself to the sacrifices made by members of his family, who I wonder if he has ever spent time with.
Because Obama was relying on research from his campaign and not personal experience he blew, and once again his campaign had to tell us what he really meant.
Anybody else noticing that it is the internet that is breaking the stories these days?
Posted by: anotherview | May 28, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Put all the gaffes and mistruths we know about Obama and now envision him on his Freshman Year Tyrant’s Tour sitting down for a heart-to-heart with America’s most threatening enemies. Are you comfortable with that?
Is Obama is a pathological liar or just dumber than a box of rocks? Doesn’t matter. Either way he isn’t fit to be POTUS.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 28, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
It’s interesting the clintonites are getting as desperate as their candidate.
Grasping at every straw.
When did mis-naming a place in a 100%true story become an issue. Desperation is now turning to insanity
Posted by: Commonsense | May 28, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
The media is telling us we want Obama.
Everyone votes Obama (roboty).
USA always has the Obama camp to tell us what he really meant to say. (and to all those pesky world leaders, too).
USA – we okay.
No problem!
Posted by: Reality | May 28, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
It is illogical to equate this statement by Obama with Clinton’s statement about Bosnia. Clinton was in Bosnia, made no mention of bullets in her book, but several times on the campaign trail mentions dodging bullets. How does that compare to Obama who mentions his great uncle freeing a concentration camp 63 years ago and the story is passed down my family members. He gets the camp name wrong. I think it would be easier to remember bullets being fired at you than the name of the camp your great uncle helped liberate.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | May 28, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Here comes that great CHANGE……..say anything to get elected…..did he not have his ear piece in again to tell him what to say…..he should know by now whenever he speaks for himself he goofs……where is my script..I can’t talk without my script………but if I smile….they will all believe me….I’m so great…
Posted by: Mary B | May 28, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
This is just another tempest in a teapot. I don’t think that Obama is the right person to be Chief Executive but this flap certainly doesn’t bother me. If my memory was perfect I might be more critical, instead I choose to be charitable and ascribe the error to either a minor flaw in a single memory or an oral tradition incorrectly passed down though his family. If every one of us had to stand by every single word we ever spoke we would all be in jail.
Posted by: Tom | May 28, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
I think the reference of Obama statement of 57 states and Clinton’s statement that she is supported by “hard working Americans, white Americans” are comparable. I saw both video clips and they both looked tired and their mouths were going while their brain was somewhere else. If both candidates would have been alert, both of these candidates would not have made these errors.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | May 28, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
All I want to know is what school does polliticians go too, they must study hard to become this screwed up
Posted by: Francis | May 28, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Look folks, Obama cannot get his own personal history straight – why would anyone expect him to get facts right for a great uncle (someone told me he did not have a great uncle liberating Buchenwald). Obama has not figured out how many states we have … and he has not figured out how to unite the Democratic party. Personally, regardless of what he says or does, he will not get my vote. I will not be suckered in by his empty words.
Posted by: dixiecharms | May 28, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
The man is an idiot. He lies about everything.
Posted by: DOROTHEA | May 28, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
There is absolutely no basis for comparison with Clinton’s “sniper fire” story which was just a childish, fraudulent and false story to blow up her experience.
Whether it was Buchenwald or Auschwitz, it was a concentration camp. The substance of the story is what happened there and not the name of the place. Who cares about what the germans call their towns? The fact is that it was a 100% true story.
Posted by: Don'tbefoolish | May 28, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Sorry Don’t…it looks like his whole story is just that…a story…
shameful
I wonder how he will explain this one away…oh I know…he will blame it on someone else…now THAT fits his pattern
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 28, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
I am just trying to get the full story…there is no harm to finding the truth in my opinion.
Not grasping onto any straw…I just want to be fully informed unlike some people. I try to look at the candidates from all angles and pride myself on being fully educated about the candidates and the issues.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 28, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
HILLARY SUPPORTERS UNITE, Make sure Barrack and the Democratic Leaders know we wont support him… He and his supporters think we will come around and throw away our passion for Hillary. Stick with her, let’s take this to the GE!
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
He owes everyone an apology, but especially the Jewish people; to imply that he just misspoke like Auschwitz is interchangeable with Buchenwald?? Shouldn’t he know this?
Posted by: unstoppable 08 | May 28, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
ONLY the 86th recon infantry came into contact with the camp.
What other lies will they spin?
Posted by: pharmacist | May 28, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
I am sure Sen. Barack Obama is a liberal incarnation of George Bush. These gaffes are becoming a part of his political persona.
“We should be sending Arab specking interpreters to Afghanistan!”
This shows Sen. Obama’s utter ignorance of the Middle East and the Islamic world. (Afghans don’t speak Arabic!) Are we really going to hand him the power to direct our foreign policy, with two wars raging in Iraq and Afghanistan, to such an ignoramus, especially after all the damage and devastation done by Mr. George Bush?
In the same breath he said he made another gaffe about “Agricultural experts in Afghanistan.”
“I’ve been to all 57 states…”
“100 million dies in Myanmar!”
“She was punished with a baby…!”
And he called a news reporter, “Sweetie!”
While campaigning in Oregon, a woman asked him what he thought of the situation with Hanford Nuclear Site. This is a real big deal for us those of us who live in the Pacific Northwest. He was completely stumped! He didn’t know what Hanford Nuclear Facility was! This is shocking! This is utter ignorance. This is big red flag! This sort of thing about Obama makes me cringe! I am certain that he isn’t qualified to be our next commander- in-chief! Sen. Barack Obama’s misstatements dramatically illustrate his ignorance in many situations and on many issues. But the media still praises him and have not held him responsible any of it─ just like they used to protect and prop up George Bush. The media is giving so much slack for Sen. Obama, unlike the severe criticism and condemnation that’s constantly given to Sen. Hillary Clinton. I think this situation is very unfortunate for our country. Just like the way media took us over the cliff with Iraq, we are also been taken for ride with Sen. Obama by the media.
If elected president, could Barack Obama even be worse than George Bush?
Yes, there’s evry sign of it. But as usual the media is looking in the other directrion!
Posted by: MrNurkle | May 28, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
It is unfortunate the media has treated this whole campaign like it was a beauty pagent for their darling.(kind of the way they treated Willy)
Posted by: dab | May 28, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
MikeMo
The information provided is factual. Obama’s great uncle enlisted into the navy. I do not have access to anything more detailed since I am not family nor am affiliated with any federal agency.
It is crystal clear that Obama’s campaign stated his great uncle was in the army…this is just not so.
It is funny how one politician’s lies are acceptable, but all of the others who do the same…either intentionally or not, are criticized constantly. I for one am sick of Obama getting every benefit of the doubt.
I have been following the election for months now and was an early Obama supporter before I went for Edwards…of course this was all before I actually looked into the candidates more closely.
I consider myself more informed than most and in being so, I am even more disillusioned in the entire political process, let alone in the candidates themselves.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 28, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Mark in LA ======================
For the purpose of argument, let’s just assume that you are right that obama’s great uncle enlisted in the navy.
Does someone in the navy serve america any less than someone in the army?
I really don’t get you.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Guess he’s not as perfect as everyone thinks. So if this was just an accident of words, do we get to make fun of him now for weeks (just like they love to do to Bush)?!?!
Or…dare I say it…maybe he’s just a lier and thought people would recognize the name Auschwitz over Buchenwald. I guess with his socialist wealth re-distribution plans he would want to be involved with a former communist country…hehehehe
Posted by: Rochelle | May 28, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.”
(the russians liberated Auschwitz)
Anyway, a big enough lie told often enough becomes truth. Mao knew this well.
Posted by: pharmacist | May 28, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Gee that’s funny. When Hillary said she remembers sniper fire (even though it turns out it was just people talking about the possibility of it), she was blasted daily for four weeks straight. Dishonest, liar, etc. Now Obama only made a mistake about the location. …or mistake about the family. Maybe it was his next door neighbor’s family, not his own. It is absolutely impossible for him to mistake an uncle when his mom had no siblings. His dad was not a U.S. Citizen and did not liberate anything except the caps from bottles of booze.
Posted by: Deborah C | May 28, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
This is an example of what can happen when we are so hasty to pass judgement. The context of Sen Obama’s story was correct, he just had the wrong city.For the individual who doesn’t think Obama should be president because his father was not American, please put your prejudice aside and read the constitution. Your qualification to be President is based on your nationality and not your father’s. Sen. Obama is a full-blooded American. Stop all this hate mongering.You can disagree with his politics, but don’t make it personal.
Posted by: Fabian Philip | May 28, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
PLEASE PEOPLE….FOCUS ON THIS ISSUES AND NOT RACE…COME ON….WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE…NO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IS PERFECT BUT CAN WE AMERICANS REALLY AFFORD TO ELECT A REPUBLICIAN PRESIDENT AGAIN…WE AMERICANS ARE IN BAD ECONOMIC TIMES AND IF WE DON’T PULL TOGETHER WE ALL ARE GOING TO BE IN UNEMPLOYMENT LINE OR WORST……GO OBAMA GO 08
Posted by: Della | May 28, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
LET’S PULL TOGETHER LIKE WE DID WHEN 9/11 HAPPEN. THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE DID NOT LOOK AT RACE; WE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AS AMERICANS AND WE CAME TOGETHER AS ONE….SENATOR OBAMA CANNOT DO ANY WORST THAT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALREADY WHEN HE BECOMES OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES…WITH HIM WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GO UPWARD…GO OBAMA GO 08
Posted by: Della | May 28, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Obama needs a speech writer and advisor at all times. He went to Harvard and thinks the United States consistes of 60 states, however, he has only been to 57 and may go to one more, but not Alaska or Hawaii. He thinks Memorial Day is Veteran’s Day. He doesn’t want his daughter to have a “mistake” before she is married, so she may have to abort his grandchild. His uncle fought in WWII? Maybe, maybe not who knows. He doesn’t want to wear an American flag lapel pin and doesn’t really want to place his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance. This is who I want for my president. How about you?
Posted by: Donna Ramage | May 28, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
The man has no experience. And as President one must choose words wisely. I don’t buy into the “making a mountain out of a mole hill” thing. These candidates are being judged (as they should) on how they present themselves, and constantly erring your facts or mis-wording your statements does not bode well for any future leader. Our voting options suck.
Posted by: WeRDoomed | May 28, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t be a Bush supporter then turn around and say Obama isn’t qualified because he doesn’t have experience. Bush had nada, zilch, bupkis experience before Jan 2001.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | May 28, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
HILLARY SUPPORTERS UNITE, Make sure Barrack and the Democratic Leaders know we wont support him… He and his supporters think we will come around and throw away our passion for Hillary. Stick with her, let’s take this to the GE!
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Mark in LA =======================
Let’s get real. Every politician panders to the voters. if you don’t, you don’t win.
What is important is to say things that are true in substance – not make up stories.
The fact is that it was a 100% true story. Whether it was Buchenwald or auschwitz, it was a concentration camp. Who cares about what the germans call their towns?
Only a fool compares that with Clinton’s “sniper fire” which was just a childish, fraudulent and made up story to blow up her experience.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
TO HILLIARY IS WINNING BELIEVE IT OR NOT WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATRED TOWARDS SENATOR OBAMA…….I LIKE HILLARY TOO BUT WHEN SHE WENT EXTREMELY NEGATIVE ON SENATOR OBAMA AND DID THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN; YET SHE STATED THEY WAS FRIENDS IN THE BEGINNING HOW SHE HAVE A PICTURE OF HIS FAMILY IN HER OFFICE…TO RUIN THEIR FRIENDSHIP LIKE SHE DID I FEEL SORRY FOR HER AND HER SUPPORTERS LIKE YOU TO RATHER SEE SENATOR MCCAIN IN OFFICE AS OUR NEXT PRESIDENT THAN SENATOR OBAMA BECAUSE SENATOR CLINTON HAVE LOSE…SO SAD.
Posted by: Della | May 28, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Give me a break, you can’t run on a “higher standard” and then say all politicians pander. BHO promised he was different. If he is not different that is ok, just dont lie and say you are and then go about business as usual. This is my problem with BHO. Not that he has said or done anything that the others haven’t… my problem is that he said he would be different and he is not!
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
All politicians pander. ALL ! All are corrupt, some worse than others. Obama is the least corrupt, Hillary is the most.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Big1 – But Obama promised he wasn’t… so that leaves us with the one who can be the best president – Hillary 08
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
But Hillary promised much that she never had the intention of delivering. You cannot trust her. No politician will admit they are corrupt. I couldn’t trust Hillary to walk my dog, let alone run a business for me.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Hillary is clearly the most intelligent of all these three candidates. My second choice in McCain.
Posted by: gee | May 28, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Chipo ====================
Tell me one thing obama said in this campaign that’s been proved beyond any doubt to be a lie like “sniper fire” story. Just one, not two.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
People in this country are screwed up. If Hillary isn’t in, I’ll vote for McSame. Wah wah wah. Crybabies !
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
If Hillary was winning, would she want those votes in MI in FL to count ? Really , be honest. It’s called deception. I live in Miami and most people here don’t really care, and most are McCain or Obama supporters.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
“He is not a part of my campaign”
“I never heard him saying those things”
“I didn’t know Rezco”
“I wasn’t at that party”
“I dont accept money from oil companies”
I have hundred’s of them. He is a liar and manipulator.
Calling us cry-babies wont help, just like you couldn’t force HRC from the race, you can’t force me to vote for BHO.
And of course Hillary would want MI and FL counted – she won those states, why wouldn’t she. Just like if BHO won those states he would be screaming for them to be counted. duh, it’s called winning!
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
“Flubs, flubs”? He outright lies and the media is saying flubs. All right, now this is just enough. Hillary says Robert Kennedy and the obamananiacs already have her strung up and hung and obama outright lies about uncles which he DOESN’T HAVE ANY UNCLES and the media says flubs? What in the world has happened to this Nation that we, the people, ALLOW a presidential candidate to OUTRIGHT LIE and bless him, while the female candidate is deemed evil and someone who is going to commit murder?
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU MEDIA PEOPLE. If you allow obama to continue to get away with his lies, what will you then allow and hide from the public, what he will do as president? What is the matter with all of you? This man is a total menace and you embrace him.
I hope that someone has the courage to stand up to this fantasy and challenge him to PROVE EVERYTHING HE SAYS, AND NOT JUST READ WHAT IS WRITTEN FORM HIM AND THEN TELL EVERYONE THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE HIM.
What is the matter with you?
You are creating another Aldof Hitler and you are doing this and are aware of what you are doing.
Posted by: Lou | May 28, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
If they wanted those states counted, they should have said so before the results of those states were in. I’m not an Obama fan. I just do not trust Hillary, and all I see is un-educated crybabies on here.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Didn’t realize Obama didn’t want this woman’s vote – guess I’ll give it to McCain then.
Posted by: Jane | May 28, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Some comments on here are really laughable. If Hillary actually gets in the white house, whoever voted for her , deserves her, everyone else will have to suffer the pain of her selfishness and greed.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
At least his family did something – WHAT???
LIBERATE AUSHWITZ – LIE
SELMA MARCH- LIE
LIFE MAG.- LIE
NEXT HE’S GOING TO TELL US THAT HIS UNCLE PUT THE FLAG UP ON IWO JIMA ALL BY HIS LONESOME. ETC.
As to most people don’t know about their family tree – do like Hussein – make it up. I’ll believe there’s an uncle when I hear his name, unit served in and some dates.
Posted by: Russ | May 28, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Chipo ===============
It’s clear to me that you have other reasons for your hatred for Obama. Maybe they are things you wouldn’t want to say here.
It would be hard to argue with someone when they are so full of sentiments. They will never see your points.
one point – Obama is winning the nomination with MI and FL added. The math is just too harsh on Clinton. Face it.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
This story is misrepresented by
ABC News! Obama said it was his
uncle not great uncle when he told the story! That’s one untruth or “flub” as lies are now called!
The second and most glaring one is
the concentration camp that was referenced! It’s hard to believe you
can mistake Auschwitz for Buchenwald unless you just don’t care about accuracy or are making up the story!
The camps were on opposite sides of
the country.
The uncle great uncle “flub” is nothing to excuse lightly since there is a generational difference!
This sounds a lot like Hillary’s
“Bosnian sniper fire” story!
Wow you democrats are lucky!
You have a choice between two liars who have either made racially insensitive comments themselves or are tied to people who have done so!
They are both tied to the weather underground(Obama-Ayers, Hillary-Bills pardons)! Hillary also defended the
Black Panthers.
Great Choice! I’ll take McCain!
have
Posted by: reaganfan | May 28, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Hillary Supporters ==============
I don’t think desperation helps at this point. Too little too late !!!
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Obama’s grandmother’s brother, Charlie Payne, helped liberate Buchenwald camp in April 1945 as part of the 89th Infantry Division.
Prove it’s a lie or JUST GET OVER IT.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | May 28, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
The more Obama opens his mouth, the more we realize he is just another politician. After the debate on ABC, people wondered about Obama asking themselves “Does he know anything?”. The answer is resoundingly “No”. Obama is helping Hillary and John McCain. Obama, please keep speaking and pull yourself down.
Posted by: Kris | May 28, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I really don’t care who votes for Obama or Clinton. I’m just laughing.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Lee USA..
There is no record of that name in the archive…only the same name and date of birth for someone from kansas who enlisted in the Navy…
I would say that the burden of proof lies with Obama. He is the one telling the story.
Posted by: kim | May 28, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Oh, stuff and nonsense to all the haters out there who think they’ve found another insignificant reason for voting their bigotry. The fact is that Auschwitz is often used as an almost generic name for the entire Nazi concentration camp system. Like the Soviet “gulag” system, who apart from historians can differentiate among the various camps operated by the Nazi regime? Most of those who have written in criticizing him certainly could not.
Posted by: O. R. Raymond | May 28, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
This is a nothing story which has been cleared up. So he mentioned the wrong camp and later corrected it. Big deal! However, I see the right wing is busy making something out of nothing!
Posted by: Two-cats | May 28, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Obama seems to tell a lot of “fish stories” doesn’t he?
When will the political pandering end?
Posted by: kim | May 28, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Political pandering NEVER ends ! All 3 of them do it.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Whoever said it please stop!
Obama’s mother was not naive because Americans are not naive. Just stop it!
I am very bitter about all you people referring to Americans as naive!
God Bless America
Posted by: edouard | May 28, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Obama and his supporters…one in the same…
Explain away everything…play the race card…always attacking
Posted by: Love the USA | May 28, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Obama supporters need to start bracing themselves and thinking realistically, he is not going to win the general election. He has turned off too many groups of people and there are too many grounded people that aren’t buying into the hype and trendy fad that is the whole basis of his campaign. The media is selling an image, there is nothing concrete about him. He will lose, and sadly to say, the democratic leaders are fully aware of this.
Posted by: Fred | May 28, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Whether it was Buchenwald or auschwitz, it was a concentration camp.
Liberating Buchenwald was no different from liberating auschwitz.
Who cares about what the germans call their towns?
Desperation is now driving people to insanity.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
edouard…come on…Americans ARE naive…
need proof…
they voted for George W…not once, but twice! Why? Because they “liked” him…
Posted by: An Independent | May 28, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
geraldo..
Since you keep referring to Obama’s great uncle being part of this liberation, give us some proof? I do not believe that is too much to ask for.
Charles Payne is not listed as being in the army or marines, nor with any of the infantries involved in any liberation of any camp.
Posted by: Love the USA | May 28, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Chipo ============
I’m not suggesting that.
Sometimes, we just dislike people for no objective reason. But with a little soul searching, we realize that we can’t really point to any reason why.
Well, no past president in history won every vote in america.
So, we don’t expect Obama to win over everyone to become president.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Apparently Obama’s campaign staff was sending press releases trying to make a big deal behind the scenes about Hillary’s RFK reference. Then this happens with Obama and everyone is just supposed to leave his misstatement of the facts alone. The liberal media was still focused on Hillary and didn’t even want to discuss Obama’s latest gaffe. Obama, his campaign and supporters are really a bunch of hypocrites.
Posted by: susan | May 28, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
So let me get this right…
His great uncle helped liberate a camp , but he Barack named the wrong camp?
Big !@&ing deal !!!
Come on people, I understand that a lot of you don’t support the man……but this is a little weak.
Posted by: sonny | May 28, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Love the USA ===================
The burden of proof is on you guys who don’t believe. It is your job to prove that he wasn’t there.
Mind you, he’s still alive. Some others who served with him are still alive.
So, we are not talking about some imaginary person or persons.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Obama’s Uncle Charlie was a Navy guy. he wouldn’t have been in Europe. He’s have been in the Pacific.
Posted by: OkieAtty | May 28, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
sonny =================
That’s what you get when people get desperate.
They start grasping at every straw no matter how trivial.
Posted by: geraldo | May 28, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Obama just reminds me of a “democratically elected” president of a south american country (Venezuela) now turned into a dictator, who has no experience, no real accomplishments or his own, brags about childhood stories that sometimes are true but many times are only a figment of his fertile imagination, has an entire troupe making up excuses for what ever lies he tells, has no love for his country or his people and trashes the religion he was brought up with….
I don’t know but is any likeness just pure coincidence???
Posted by: nikclau | May 28, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
So now he has lied about his father (brought to the US by the Kennedy’s), his non existent Uncle and his crackpot Pastor!
And I still haven’t heard from any of the Obama intelligentsia regarding the names of the additional 7 states that Obama identified. When do they hold their primaries and how many delegates do each have? Will we not be counting their votes also? How come I can’t find them on my map? Please, enlighten me!
And the 17 million of us democrats who voted for Hillary are laughing out loud!
Posted by: ch | May 28, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
It obviously made a lasting impression on Mr. Obama too!
Posted by: MJ | May 28, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
The 40% die hard Dems and 40% die hard Repubs are wearing me out! A post above says (paraphrasing) “Anyone would know the difference between Auschwitz and Buchenwald.” Really? Do you really believe that? And on the other side it’s just as bad…
Posted by: Cpete | May 28, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Hmmm Carlos, I’ve never been dupped before. Sounds like fun.
And apparently from several other posts Obama claimed 57 states. I guess by your definition that makes you a liar. I don’t want to hear any excuses about misspeaking or making a mistake. That’s not allowed You’re obviously nothing but a total liar. Just playing by your rules.
Posted by: Cpete | May 28, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
To anyone who knows the history of the Holocaust, this is a huge gaffe. For an enlightened person like BO to do it is hard to explain.
Having said that, I don’t think he meant any harm by it but it’s weird that it happened…..
The thing is….had HRC made the same mistake the MSM would be all over it! Why does he get a free pass??
Posted by: opedanderson | May 28, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
So it was a true story, but he got the wrong camp. Old uncle Charley went to Buchenwald not Auschwitz. My god there are some sad people desperately clutching at straws. You’re going down people, trying to manufacture some milage out of a story like this shows how desperate you really are. I’m not sure whose more desperate Hillary supporters or the Republicans ( although in a lot of cases, they claim to be one when they are really the other)
Posted by: vernonwerge | May 28, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Vernon where have you been! His great uncle is not on the list at all…nowhere. Not with the 89th Infantry, not with the army at all. A man by the same name, from kansas, born in the same year, enlisted in the Navy in 42…
Another exaggeration?
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 28, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
JOHN WA Are you suggesting his White mother is native American not the actual native american that were here first? By the way “those people” built this country.
Ps those he was talking about his mother’ side not his fathers and the story was his uncle, his great uncle and it was passed down to him so if the details are not 100% the first time I think thats better than saying you were dodging sniper fire or forgetting how we are fighting 3 times in a speech.
PPS I am sure you know every detail about your family’s stories like who the white people are the native american and they were here first and built this country from the sweat of their brows.
Posted by: jase | May 28, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
just another example of his mistakes–it is mistake after mistake—this one just as bone headed as the one he made when associated with the ganster. What does it take for the American public to realize that backing this guy is a mistake–his wife wears the pants in the family–he can’t remember what he said yesterday–and he is going to be talking to Leaders of other countries and making major decisions concerning this Country–we might as well give up–the younger generation think this guy is the answer–when they have no clue what the question is. What a sorry mess this great Nation has come to.
Posted by: silverlady | May 28, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Whats truly amazing here is the guy is ALIVE!!! If you have such an issue ask him. Don’t you think if it was a lie at least 1 news agency would have gone asked the guy and have the guy not confirm it. Its great how mccain can misidentify our allies and our enemy 3 times in 5 minutes in Iraq and HRC can say she was shot at by sniper fire 3-4 times and people give her a pass. He says 57 instead of 47 and misidentifies a german city that are in the same general area and people are ready to hang him.
Posted by: jase | May 28, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
These two Democratic candidates seem to be compelled to make the case that they are somehow, and in someway are connected to the military, when in reality, Obama never served and Clinton has a history of looking down on the military since she and her husband showed up at the White house in 1992. I wish they would just leave it alone and stop the pretense.
Posted by: LongT | May 28, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Their all liars plain and simple just your average liars. This country is becoming more phoney by the hour.It makes me sick.The way I see it is when you lie and get caught your credebility goes out the window I dont believe a word none of these clowns say.Phoney bolony.
Posted by: rich707 | May 28, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
“His personal experience of a soldier in his family that served heroicaly?” Like his “personal experience” of MLK`s heroics on civil rights and the Viet Nam war? Hoqw dumb does Obama think we Americans voters are, as dumb as the hallowed fourth estate?
Posted by: luke | May 28, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Lying is not acceptable, not the one who named a place in the same region incorrectly.
It is because there is no gain on his part or a gain at the cost of others, due to his mistake of misspeaking.
Certainly, Obama can not be forgiven if has lied about being under fire in Bosnia to show off his experience on the front line.
Certainly, Obama can not be forgiven if he voted for the Iraq war.
It is because the yes vote on Iraq war is a classic example of bad judgment.
We must not close our eyes to the consequences of the bad judgment on Iraq wars.
The consequences include deaths of several thousand young men & women.
Several thousands incapacitated & messed up for their lives.
Iraq war cost us several hundred billions.
Iraq war has drastically weakened the dollar & economy.
Iraq war was has not enables use to meet any of the objectives.
Iraq war has already created a haven for terrorists and the worst has already happened.
It cannot go worse than what has already happened in Iraq.
One whose bad judgment cost us so much does not deserve to the next president.
Look at the mismanagement of the campaign.
She has ended up the campaign in deep debt.
Look at how Obama managed the economy of his campaign.
I would never vote for Obama had he managed his campaign so badly.
It would have told me about his ability to cause more mess if he is given a chance.
She tried to misrepresent her first lady’s experience as a 3 AM kind of an experience.
It is true she was given certain tasks which normally the first ladies don’t do it. However, she failed to bring people together on her health plan.
There is no dearth of plans.
It is important to have a president who can bring people together for mutual acceptance implementation.
Obama has those characteristics.
He never tries to provoke or stoke anger among people like Mrs Clinton has been doing against Obama.
He is much more respectful of her than she has been with him.
Just recall her series negative campaigning episodes since the early times in campaigning.
She is losing by 162 and almost half million popular votes. Check out CNN.
By the way their delegate counter thing is interesting. Check it out.
What if Obama was losing and said he is in the game because RFK was assassinated in June.
It tells you something about the psyche. What is at the back of the mind sometimes pops out unintentionally.
It is human nature.
I would not have voted for Obama had he flip flopped on his stand of NAFTA and later it was revealed he was a strong supporter of NAFTA at one time.
Lies which affect the interest of people at large or hurts somebody else is more important than saying the name of the city wrong in the same region.
Posted by: Perflead | May 28, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
I love this statement because it is so true:
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times, whether we live in a desert or a tundra, and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,”
Get a grip people, this country should’ve seen this coming a long time ago. We should have been paying Europe’s prices for gas a long time ago.
I don’t know who I am voting for yet. I know I did not vote for Bush , nor the bozos that ran against him.
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
To Andy E-How about the Obama fundraiser in San Fran (the blue collars cling to their guns and religion when Wash Pols, like Obama, do nothing to alleviate their eco woes) and Michelle`s fundraiser in Az yesterday, both also closed to the public. Bush was at the Mac fundraiser in Az but how many sleezebag Resko`s were at Obama`s? Who do the Obama voters and internet donors think he will listen to if elected, them or the private donors? Hill needs to stay in this thing till the Convention to maybe prevent the Wash Pols and the press from picking the Dem nominee. She has more pop votes and Obama can only win with Wash insider Super Del votes and ignoring Mich and Fla.
Posted by: luke | May 28, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Yeah, this is the guy who deserves the office of the most powerful man in the free world…..
Posted by: Kerri | May 28, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I took a private poll here in the office:
Clinton: 2
Obama:28
McCain: 18
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
yeah probably… and when you vote for Obama you can add the rest of the statement…. “Probably….not”
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Glad your amused. hope tomorrow is just as fun for you!
Posted by: Chipo | May 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
I love these sheep that follow party lines. Have an original thought once in a while and don’t take things so seriously .
Posted by: Big1 | May 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Thanks Jase, I’ll pick McCain.
Posted by: Jill | May 28, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Its funny the real result of this election season will be 1 or maybe 2 new political parties. There will be the “intelligent” liberal democrats from places ike NY, California, and Oregon. Then the working class democrats from places like WV, and KY. Then the Lou Dobbs republicans and the traditional repubicans. However you split it the more social Christian right conservatives and the fiscal conservatives. At least people will have more of a choice.
Posted by: jase | May 28, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Jill | May 27, 2008 6:18:26 PM
“This still isnt as bad as when mccain mixed up who they were fighting in the war”.
Yeah, but add to that 57 states, the iran is not a threat to a grave threat, arkansa being closer to Kentucky than Illinois, the fact that he addressed the sppech as Veterans’ Day, his flip flop on the flag pin thing, his extraodinary lack of judgment in who he picks to hang out with, the tired lines of “change, hope, Bush third term, 100 years’ war”, his ties to lobbyists, his stupid wife, his studdering problem, and his redistributionist, big government policies, and you got a lemon on your hands, dontcha?
Posted by: Hawk | May 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald… just like “Sniper fire” instead of “Warm greeting”… you know.
Posted by: David | May 28, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Oribad:
“Good grief the name of the concentration camp was wrong! That’s like asking someone to pass the salt when they meant to pass the butter…. for the sake of the story: no change in content, meaning, point…. but, for those with little to find fault in: I guess it can be twisted into something that is equivalent to ‘his family invented the atomic bomb to end the war.’ Oh boy… I’m wasting my time with these littlenessess and so are you”.
Posted by: origood | May 27, 2008 6:44:08 PM
Well, similar to the McCain shiite-sunni thing, wouldn’t you say? (except that McCain wasn’t grandstanding when he misspoke).
Posted by: Hawk | May 28, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Big1: You FORGOT to let us ALL know what YOU are willing to SACRIFICE for Obama et al??????????
1) your SUV
2) your FOOD
3) your A/C
Are you then willing to allow……say maybe a nice family……..from a third world country to LIVE IN YOUR HOME with you???? To share your FOOD, your A/C and your SUV or other transportation and pay no rent???? Come on now…………you like what Obama says………so PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
Posted by: ithinkurstupid | May 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Isn’t “misspoke” another word for a lie? When did misstatements or lies become acceptable? This is hardly a great trait for the next commander and chief!
Posted by: mccollegemom | May 28, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
How can you compare “pass the butter,” instead of “pass the salt” to someone who totally revises their family history (as well as that of the world) at will for their own political gain?
If what you are suggesting had actually been the case, he probably would have caught his own mistake while he was speaking and corrected himself, like most people do.
Instead, he just went right on with his fairy tale and would have happily left it at that had he not been called on it.
Posted by: SandyB | May 28, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I feel for the people who think Obama
is the best thing since sliced bread. He is a farce, and a dummy.
Do we need a dunce is the White Hoouse?
John McCann is no prize either
Posted by: FE Roberts | May 28, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Obama lied about his uncle. Obama knows he doesn’t have an uncle. This was a lie. The news media knows what a lie is, I hope. Maybe not …they don’t report the truth about the election and don’t report on Hillary but show Obama as if he has won.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 28, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
All of them have made mistakes but Obama has been flat out lying with his stories.
Posted by: Dee | May 28, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Obama’s comment regarding the heroism of his ancestors really doesn’t matter.
McCain, on the other hand, is using Phil Gramm as his Financial Advisor, and is considering him for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. You know, Phil Gramm, the man who started the current mortgage meltdown.
Phil Gramm was once quoted as saying
“We’re going to keep on building the party (the Texas Republican Party) until we’re hunting Democrats with dogs.” — As quoted in Mother Jones, August 1995
Posted by: Mickey | May 28, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
John McCain’s “trophy wife” really offends me. He displays his lovely, young wife as some ‘reward’ for his accomplishments, but keeps her safely away from speaking. Its as if she has no opinion of her own.
As a Hillary supporter, any display of a ‘good old boy’ mentality where women are tokens for the amusement of their spouse turns my stomach.
Defeat John McShame, elect anyone else!
Posted by: Marie | May 28, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Here we are at the playoffs for the SuperBowl. Barack has a one point lead and has the ball within 10 yards of another touchdown. With only 30 seconds left he will probably just eat up the clock in the next couple plays. But wait Hillary is arguing with an official that even if Barack has more points, her team has gained the most yards and should be declared the winner. Now she is arguing her team did better in the big area in the middle of the field. Now Bill is on the field arguing with another official saying sportswriters say Hillaries team has a better chance of winning in the SuperBowl against McCain’s team. If the officials let Barack win and advance to the SuperBowl, McCain’s team will tear his team apart. Official are now in a huddle on the sidelines trying to decide how the determine the winner. Will it be points, who gains the most yards, who does well in the large middle section of the field, or base it on what sportswriters are saying would be the best match up in the Super Bowl. We will have to wait to hear what they decide.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | May 28, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
tired of writing,
“However, I feel that Obama posesses the skills required to LEAD this country in the right direction. That is why he has my vote”
What skills? Skill of lying? Skill of talking? Stories like this can be listed as “experience” to Obama’s thin resume. I won’t trust him to walk my dog let alone to lead this country!
Tired of hearing stupid things from Obama’s supporters!
Posted by: Jane | May 28, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Obama will carry on a fine family tradition. He will liberate the democratic party of any chance to win the White House in November. Well done!
Posted by: Still Undecided | May 28, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
LOL…Jane…
My sentiments as well
Posted by: Indie Here | May 28, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
What are these relatives names, and who exactly has done due diligence to find out if they even exist?
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 28, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
hello O-first of all it is insulting to the Jewish community that Mr.O couldn’t get the name right.
Second , the only Charles Payne{uncle or great uncle, since his mother was an only child} that was in the sevice was in the NAVY and the navy doesn’t have an infantry- Hello!!!!!
not only did Senator Obama insult the Vets , he insulted the Jewish Community as well, but I am sure it will all come out in his next book “how I lost the nomination”
Go Hillary08″
Posted by: Chris | May 28, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
He was right. You people are bitter.
Posted by: Digital Jedi | May 28, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Another story that Obama either made up or twisted. Obama is now being defended by the people who made a big stink about sniper fire; IN A DANGER ZONE WHERE SOLDIERS WERE IN FATIGUES AND ON GUARD. Once again the messiah can do no wrong, even when we all know it is WRONG.
Posted by: Lucy | May 28, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
So what’s the 411 on Charles Payne?
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 28, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Obama panders to get elected. I don’t know his real motives for running, and it seems like he is a marxist in his policies, and the lazy, entitled liberals are going right along, holding out their hands.
Obama supporters, please explain this to me:
On a Sunday speech, Obama says that Venezula, Iran, North Korea, etc. are not a threat, compared with the Soviet Union, and we talked to the Soviet Union. This is to outline his policy of talking with enemies.
On Monday, the next day, he says that he’s “been saying for years that Iran is a grave danger” – which is it. they aren’t a threat, or they’re a grave danger?
Please explain, Obama supporters, how this is not pandering, not flip-flopping, and doesn’t show a great deal of arrogance, not to mention the fact that it insults his supporters purported intelligence.
Also, why are you folks so eager to socialize the oil companies? You do realize that pension plans, 401ks, your grandparents, and your IRAs are all invested in these large oil companies, and they’re making a living off it. Not only that, but to raise the capital gains tax would destroy retirees. If they don’t have their 401ks and pensions and IRAs, then they have to depend on social security which the democrats (primarily Clinton) and republicans have effectively used up on pet programs. You are all fools if you think “investors” are only the wealthy, and you’re ignorant at best if you have a 401k.
A couple other things:
1. Housing crisis is not the republican administrations fault. It’s morons who didn’t read, understand, or pay attention to the terms of the agreement they signed. I am not responsible for them, nor is the government. This is a market correction, and to coddle the fools who did this is only going to make things worse.
2. Gas prices are not the republican administration’s fault. It’s congress’ fault, primarily democrats. Democrats are primarily the ones lobbied by environment groups who force oil companies to drill overseas, process oil overseas, and buy oil from other countries, which in turn, makes prices higher. Also, all you liberals running around with your bottles of Fiji and Ethos? Guess what? Those plastic bottles? Made by oil. Your entire Prius? Yeah, that cheap plastic? Oil. You guys caused this, not the republicans, not Bush, not the Iraq war.
3. US casualties in the Iraq war are down 82% comapared with May of 2007. I think that’s showing improvement…but we should pull out right away! You guys are idealistic fools who don’t understand the situation. Troops aren’t dying at the same rate, and things are improving. It’s there in the statistics.
4. The economy is not the Bush administration’s fault, it’s Clinton’s fault for signing a law that deregulated the financial services industry, allowing a lot of the things that happened to happen. Not only that, but the fed dropping interest rates have destroyed the dollar. Oh yeah, and congress keeps passing farm bills to subsidize corn into ethanol, which by the way, uses tons of oil to turn corn into ethanol. Again, congress is to blame more than the executive branch.
As for Obama and the concentration camp? If I were Jewish, I would be upset. First, Obama says he’d meet with a man who says that Israel is nothing more than a stinking corpse, and that he, in no uncertain terms, plans to wipe them off the map. Then, Obama turns around and tells some story that may or may not be accurate (in his famous Iraq speech, he said the same thing only different…) in order to pander to the Jewish voters, when, he has done NOTHING to make it seem like he cares for Israel.
I think I should stop now. :)
Posted by: Shane H. | May 29, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Obama has demonstrated as much judgement and experience to be president as I have to be an astrophysicist.
Judgement: with his mentor jerimiah Wright and his judgement of “bitter clinging to God and guns” americans.
Experience: with his, with his, ah ah, well he voted present like 200 plus times in the senete.
I wouldn’t vote for him for city dog catcher! He is an excellent orator, but we need experience ann proven leadership to lead our nation.
Hillary or McCain are our only real choices in 08′
Posted by: j | May 29, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
“Show me your friends and I’ll show you who you are”, or “birds of a feather flock together”.
jerimiah wright the left wing radical racist
Bill Ayres the left wing america hating 1960′s (“wish I’d done more”) bomber
The black panthers (“what a bunch of nice boys”)
Rezko, the shady Chicago real estate guy currently in a trail
The list goes on…….
Is the kind of character that is going to bring “change”, WHAT KIND OF CHANGE?
DO WE WANT THESE KIND OF WEIRDO’S IN POSITIONS OF POWER AND INFLUENCE RUNNING AMERICA?
the truth is, we only have two choices in this race. We can’t take a chance on this questionable unkown character.
HILLARY OR MCCAIN IN 08′
Posted by: j | May 29, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
As a sore Hillary supporter, this really makes my day. I barely follow the race anymore and haven’t lost any of the bitterness of her apparent loss.
I am so glad I never fell for this preacher-like man of little substance. I truly hope HRC sticks around until Denver and BO continues with his whoppers. He and his campaign have no shame.
As a life-long democrat I can’t cross the line to McCain, but I won’t hesitate to write in Hillary.
Posted by: CK Canon | May 29, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
It’s my belief that a leader is best seen not in thier own words and deeds but in those who…follow them.
“We know in our heart that he only misspoke the name of the place & did not lie.”
how…Leni Riefenstahl…is that.
I find Obamaborg comments are always most effective if you cement them together in a sort of…hive…of blith insensitivity and breathtaking ignorance:
“Good grief the name of the concentration camp was wrong! That’s like asking someone to pass the salt when they meant to pass the butter….”
“Buchenwald…Auschwitz…Dachau…Treblinka….Bergen-Belsen. What’s the difference?”
“Who cares about what the germans call their towns?”
“liberating one of these concentration camps versus another makes no difference as to the story.”
“When did mis-naming a place in a 100%true story become an issue.”
(interesting to use “story” not…statement of fact)
I read this ENTIRE thread hoping SOMEONE would mention WHY this might be a BIG BIG BIG mistake for a presidential candidate to make.
It’s bad enough domestically that Barack has made a career of taking credit for the accomplishments of others be it their stirring words he merely mouths, courageous stands he was not around for or legislation he did no work on. And that his “policy statements” (that obamacrats point out are so similar to Clintons) all too often amount to “yeah, what…she..said”
But WHO might find this particular “story” an…issue?
(other than deeply offended Jews, other victim groups and exacting WWII scholars)
How about The Russian People who DID liberate the 7000 remaining prisioners at Auschwitz?
The RUSSIAN armed forces, who had 15,000 of their prisoners of war executed among the estimated million exterminated at Auschwitz, just MIGHT take offense that the possible NEXT president of the United States now casually claims THEIR victories…too.
Bush has keep our attention on the the middle east but there is perhaps no country that could prove more problematic to the next president than Resurgent Russia.
Reagan loved to believe that he tore down that wall all by himself…but I’ve always thought the demise of the Soviet Union had more to do with the soul and body sickening national devastation of…Chernobyl.
We now have our own gaping wounds in New York and New Orleans and THIS president has so eroded our stature worldwide that international experts now say that there is a growing belief that Putin has shown better leadership that Bush.
And THAT should deeply worry those of us who grew up ducKing under our school desks IN The Cold War.
But then many Obama Youth, the kind that see no harm in such a…minor misspeak…could not even tell you what The Cold War was…
Tonight in the Kremlin they’re likely rolling their eyes toward Heaven and clinking their vodka glasses
“Here’s to ANOTHER American…idiot!”
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Posted by: janitt dott | May 29, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
If we agree that the popular vote thing was a tie, why should superdelegates reward the most negative and condecending campaign in history. Obama trashed Clinton approval number by cheap shots throughout the campaign, and if Clinton did anything wrong it was running a fairly old-fashion and straight forward campaign. But at least she let Obama gaffe on “sweetie” and “48 states” and “Auschwitz” without sticking it too him. She ran on issues, when he avoids debate and talks of anything but. As the only Dems candidate without a universal health-care plan starting out, then putting together something for children in record time I think Obama has a lot to defend.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 29, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
This incident reminds me of a previous ‘misspoken’ case by Obama ,in a speech celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Selma civil right march, he tried to give credit to former president Kennedy for help bringing Obama Sr. to this country from Kenya in 1959. JFK has never done that. What a dumb elitist Obama is !
Posted by: austin c | May 29, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
instoppable 08
I agree with you. If hundred of thousands Hillary supporters stop watching Prime time News from MSNBC and CNN, their rating will go down. These pundits on those channels are shameless (except Lou Dobb and Glen Beck). They will lick and swallow Obama’s waste if asked.
Posted by: Tess | May 29, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
janitt dott:
Thanks;-)
Posted by: Fact Checker | May 29, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Buchenwald or Auschwitz?
What’s the difference?
Well, we all now learned (or remember) that it was the Red Army that liberated Auschwitz, NOT the U.S. Army.
We all now learned (or remember) that Auschwitz was (primarily) an extermination camp, where more than 1 million (some estimate up to 3 million) Jews were murdered for no other reason than they were Jewish.
We all now learned (or remember) that Buchenwald was NOT an extermination camp, but a P.O.W. camp, and camp for German political dissidents.
Jews were murdered there, too (the Nazis weren’t that discriminating), but that was not its primary function. An estimated 50,000 people died in Buchenwald and its satellites from disease, macabre medical experiments, or summary execution – but there were NO gas chambers.
Do any of these distinctions make any difference?
I happen to think they do.
If one wants to cloak oneself in reflected glory of the past, and the past accoplishments of dimly remembered, distant relatives (as Obama was, when he mentioned his Great-Uncle Charlie Payne), you might bother to get the facts of that past right.
Otherwise, such remarks look like unscrupulous pandering.
Obama may have thought he was pandering to the Jewish community, but he didn’t even get that right.
Note, Buchenwald mainly housed POLISH P.O.W’s, German political dissidents, and Soviet P.O.W’s, not Jews.
Lets add the Polish community to the groups Obama has insulted by misnaming the camp his Great-Uncle liberated.
Posted by: Fact Checker | May 29, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
x marks the spot:
I was careful to write great-uncle, not uncle. I think that slip IS irrelevant.
Auschwitz vs. Buchenwald? Yes, both were concentration camps.
Liberating either was noble.
But if Obama wants to cloak himself in that nobility, he might bother to get the details right.
The fact that he brought up the Holocaust at all and his relatives participation in liberating a camp at a moment in the primaries where Florida (the Jewish vote) has become crucial (May 31), is pandering.
I am most offended by the pandering, not by the fact he got the detail wrong. Though you’d think if this was such an important family legend (suddenly, just now remembered for public unveiling), he could bother to those details right. Maybe he should have rehearsed a little more before trying it out in public.
Posted by: Fact Checker | May 29, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Obama loves weiner
Posted by: Clay | November 5, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am