Obama Reaches Pledged Delegate Majority
ABC News’ Karen Travers Reports: Barack Obama has been allocated 24 pledged delegates so far tonight and now claims a majority of the pledged delegates at stake in Democratic nominating contests, according to the ABC News delegate estimate. Delegates continue to be allocated as the results come in from the Oregon Democratic primary.
There are 3253 total pledged delegates –- 1627 is a majority.
Obama has not secured the Democratic nomination –- he is still 86 delegates away from reaching the DNC’s magic number of 2026 to win the nomination.
The Obama campaign hopes that reaching this marker will be a convincing argument for the remaining 200 uncommitted superdelegates – to follow the will of the voters and support him.
Obama spoke Des Moines, Iowa, the place where he started his path to the Democratic nomination back in January.
In those remarks, Obama stopped short of declaring victory in the nomination fight but did note the pledged delegate milestone.
"And tonight, in the fullness of spring, with the help of those who stood up from Portland to Louisville, we have returned to Iowa with a majority of delegates elected by the American people, and you have put us within reach of the Democratic nomination for President of the United States," he said.
The Obama campaign is mindful of the fact that there are three more primaries on the calendar, that Hillary Clinton shows no signs of dropping out of the race before June 3 and that they don’t want to be seen as pushing her off the stage. Campaign officials have stressed that tonight marks a milestone in the nomination process but not the coronation.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated in an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos in March that the superdelegates should back the pledged delegate leader.
"If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what’s happened in the elections," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said to ABC News, "it would be harmful to the Democratic Party."
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NOT PROUD OF BACKWOODS WV AND KENTUCKY,PROUD THAT SOME AMERICANS WANT TO TURN THE PAGE, AND TRULY MAKE AMERICA A LAND OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL !!!!!!
Posted by: PROUD AA | May 20, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
One step closer to the presidency! We won’t be stopped! Obama ’08
Posted by: dem in chicago | May 20, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
He doesn’t even care about the people who voted in WVa, KY, FL. and MI. I thought dems cared about ALL the votes..
Posted by: annie | May 20, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
The only person Hilliary can elect now is John McCain. She needs to decide for herself if her legacy will be defined by that. If she really thinks that she can win in ’12, then why throw it all away now; But if she wants to destroy the party and give us John McCain while alienating the black vote for the Democratic party, I’m sure the GOP won’t mind a bit.
Posted by: blog | May 20, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Newsflash..Obama’s camp said tonight they didn’t need Clinton. They feel they can do this thing without her and the past she brings!
Posted by: annie | May 20, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Go Obama!!! America turns a new page.
Posted by: TK | May 20, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Blue Collar Americans reject Obama.
Obama fooled many Democrats before his radical ties with Jeremiah Wright was widely known, but his secret is out now.
I’m a long-time Democrat, but, like millions of other Democrats, there is no way I’m voting for Far Left Obama.
If Obama supporters think differently, they are only fooling themselves.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 21, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
This democrat will not vote for Obama!
Posted by: Ron | May 21, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
This is the right time to support Obama and give courage to HILIARY for all boldnesss she has taken. These two people can joint together to bet MC CAIN in general election, which mean HILIARY didn’t lose because her party still won the general election.
Posted by: AYO | May 21, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Some of these “superdelgates” better wake up and smell the coffee not be drinking the cool aid, Clinton is destroying Obama in the states necessary to win the white house, and by margin spreads that seem to keep growing, some of the turncoats that broke from the Clinton camp ought to stop and think, you want to lose the white house then stay with the cool aid kid Obama
Posted by: Jim from Pa | May 21, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
liberal,
That figure is for you and people from Obama side, not for us. We have done our homework before go to the polls.
Posted by: Sowhat? | May 21, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
I have sent email requesting Hillary to forsake Democrat party and switch to Independent. If this happens, will end the hope for Obama! We don’t need DNC. We don’t need a party. All we need is a best candidate!
Posted by: Sowhat? | May 21, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
I certainly hope the best candidate stays in this race until the convention. Senator Obama has not been honest in his campaign nor what he can and will do for our country. He care little about a large segment of the population. He is all talk and no substance or action.
Hillary, hang in there. And yes, all 50 states should have their votes counted.
Posted by: Mai | May 21, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Mtheracist,Annie,
He went to Michigan 2 days ago and there were some protesters against him.
Yes, he is beginning to kiss and tell now to FL and MI.
Posted by: catleya | May 21, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Tungsten,
You are talking like Obama has won. He has not. Why can’t he ever close the deal? Why is the so-called presumptive nominee being crushed in swing states even at this late date, even when people like Edwards tries to rescue him. Obama has a problem, his 15 minutes got used up by Wright, he’s just waiting for the tsunami to hit in his wake.
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Obama and BitterGate, we shall not forget!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 21, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Ron,
I agree.
DNC has odd rules.
He leads in pledge delegates now because of the endorsements also.
Hillary worked so hard in Ohio, PA and other big states but she got nothing.
Posted by: catleya | May 21, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
SuperDelegates,
The will of the voters as shown by more people having pulled the lever for Clinton than Obama is that Hillary Clinton shall be the next President of the United States of America. Either choose Hillary now, or wait until the rules committee meets and decides in favor of Democracy when it comes to at least Florida (all names were on the ballot), then pull the lever for Hillary
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Hillary ’08 or ’12, the lower the number the higher the IQ of the Democratic Party.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 21, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
What about more than 2.5M voters in FL and MI? Shouldn’t they have a say in this very close primary? What about electoral map? What about popular votes? Why is the pledged delegates so important? Most of Obama’s lead in pledged delegates came from those caucus states where democrats have no chance winning in the fall.
At this stage of primary, Obama still lost huge in Kentucky. He is a very flawed nominee for the General Election. Those ultra-liberals in the Democrat Party are so in the bed with Obama that they could not (or are not willing to) see it.
Posted by: George | May 21, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Obama is a hypocrite and will end up a loser. The whole MI and FL vote is a shell game played by the DNC on Obama’s behalf. First they don’t count it to create momentum for Obama, now that the numbers are in Obama’s favor they will find some crooked way to “count” MI and FL.
Regardless of whether the delegates are eventually seated or not FL&MI voters will never have a say throughout this process as their vote did not influence the elections in any way until now, unlike all the other states that voted. Each of those states’ votes influenced the perception of who’s winning and who’s losing, which in turn influenced how other states voted.
Obama = Hypocrite = Bitter = Loser
Posted by: Mahesh | May 21, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Hillary won Kentucky by 35% tonight, a significant victory, yet CNN chooses to splash Obama’s picture over it’s front page. Tell me the media isn’t biased.
I’m not voting Obama in the fall. No means no. I will either stay home or vote Mccain if Hillary is not the nominee. Having Obama shoved down our throats as some sort of celebrity messiah is just wrong.
Posted by: Tom | May 21, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Divided we fail Democrats. If McCain wins we all lose.
Posted by: ann31 | May 21, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Sowhat,
I think you are right.
CNN and MSNBC rates are down. This morning Anderson Cooper was on the ” View” show promoting Obama.
FYI his mother is apparel designer, Gloria Vanderbilt.
I stop buying her brand either.
Posted by: catleya | May 21, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
You know it’s funny listening to all you Hillary supporters and your whining and crying about Obama, I read on here someone said Obama can’t close the deal, when did Hillary close the deal? what a bunch of sore losers!! You say Hillary should get all the delegate counts from the states she won, well Obama won way more and maybe he should get all of those delegates to himself and he would still be way ahead. You are pathetic, you will make up any excuse to try and get Hillary in and no wonder you support Hillary you all sound just like her, like an old worn out welcome mat. Just look where her lies and mud slinging got her! Michigan and Florida are where the candidates agreed to let them be, because they went out of line and now because Hillary is losing BIG she wants to change it, go figure, anything so Hillary can have her way.
Obama 2008
Posted by: Lilcntrydarling | May 21, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Some people said he wins because he can talk.
Posted by: catleya | May 21, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Obama remains unelectable. Democrats now know more about him and won’t vote for him in the GE
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Sorne,
What do you mean with that words?
In the GE both party either Rep and Dem will need those people in WV and KY.
Just like now, Obama started to kiss MI and Fl people.
btw may I say the crowd in OR last weekend are…listened to his empty promises?
Posted by: catleya | May 21, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
ann31,
If Obama wins then America loses.
If McCain wins, we lose some but America wins.
America always comes first, even before me or my personal interests.
Ergo VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF HILLARY IS NOT THE DEM CANDIDATE.
Posted by: Mahesh | May 21, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Libre,
He won OR because OR has so many young college students and young people work for high tech.
Some of them have never voted before, only this time they want their idol win.
Posted by: catleya | May 21, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Catleya post: “He won OR because OR has so many young college students and young people work for high tech…”
I think He can only won from Kids who have never worked very hard for their living.
Posted by: stock_craft | May 21, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
David,
It doesn’t help if you claim I have my facts wrong and then repeat exactly what I said in the first place.
Sure sounds like Obama to me – Supports Wright and then condemns Wright for saying exactly the same thing he said in the first place.
This is hilarious.
Obama = Flip-Flop = Contagious
Posted by: Mahesh | May 21, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Ann31 post: “Divided we fail Democrats. If McCain wins we all lose.”
It should:”If Obama loses, Americans all win because Hillary Clinton will bring back the prosperousness for all Americans that have lost for the last 7-8 years”
Posted by: stock_craft | May 21, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Debra – If you controlled this election like you said, wouldn’t you be ahead in pledged, super and overall delegates?
Just a thought.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 21, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Debra,
Explain this:
Why not just accept that Barack Obama won this elction fair and square and accept him as the party’s nominee? That is a direct question from me to you. Can you honestly answer that question without any campain rhetoric? Honestly, If the rules of this process was understood months in advance, and Obama wins by abiding by the rules, why is that not fair?
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
Congratulations, Mahesh. You outscored your opponent 2 to 1 in the ninth inning of a game you lost 20 to 8.
Again, congratulations!
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 21, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
Hey, Davis, just congratulate him on his “win”. He deserves it!
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 21, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Moe – I’m curious. How will Hillary be the next President?
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 21, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Vickie – Didn’t Hillary bad mouth everyone that used to work with them and voted for Obama and trash them publicly? How is that not throwing them under the bus? Didn’t she consistently say that states that she didn’t win, “didn’t count”? Hois that not throwing half the country under the bus? Isn’t that throwing over half the country under the bus?
Again, I’m very curious how you differentiate the two
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 21, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
Pure and simple..You never treat your family that way. If you will do it to them then nothing is beyond your realm of stupidity in your quest to self gratification.
Different playing field altogether when your family is not off limits to bad mouthing just to get what you want.
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Debrah,
So, tell me, what reason do you have to doubt Obama’s patriotism?
(Ps. I dare you to say Rev. Wright)
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Davis:
Nope NONE of that matters..in fact I love it!!
Just desserts yummmmmm
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
Vickie,
In that entire response, you never answered any of my questions. Just dribble. SO I will ask them again….
1) WHy is McCain better than Obama but not better than Clinton for the Presidency?
2) I just want to clarify this. I have heard lots of opinions on the matter, but I want to hear yours: Explain how Obama threw his Grandmother under the bus, in your opinion.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
Debra,
You are right. WE ARE NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT..
However,
Isn’t one of America’s greates attributes that anyone can be President? If we did find someone who has NEVER so much as walked down the same street at the same time as someone with questionable character, has NOT made one bad criticsm of their country, and has made the right decision in every single decision that this person has made, that would make him…Jesus?
Or an Elitist(GASP??) Come on, get real. I’ll ask again, should I put up some of Clinton’s past associations?
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
For obama blind supporters about supreme court, haven’t you heard that obama endorsed the decision of gay marriage by CA judges?? These judges approve gay marriage and refused to accept the over 60% of Californians oppose. Judges don’t have rights to make social issues based on their feelings. IS THAT THE KIND OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO CHOOSE SUPREME COURT JUDGES?? And what are you scare of? President appoints Judges and House and Congress approve. There’s no reason to doubt the Dem will take over House and Congress. If you read our history, WE NEVER DO GOOD WHEN HOUSE, CONGRESS, PRESIDENCY BELONG TO ONE PARTY. OUR SYSTEM IS BASED ON BALANCE OF POWER SO WHEN IT’S OUT OF BALANCE, THIS COUNTRY IS SHAKING. THEREFORE, IF DEM CONTROL HOUSE AND CONGRESS, PRESIDENCY MUST BE REP TO BALANCE THE POWER. We have to go with how our system sets up because when we mess up with the system, everything is out of order.
Posted by: hannah | May 21, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
staniam,
I thought you said on another blog you were from North Carolina?
Isn’t it way past your bed time now, you lying little Clinton insect?
Isn’t it 3AM in the morning there now? Or maybe you were just lying about living in NC? That would be a big surprise – A lie coming from a Sniper Fire Clinton supporter!
Don’t you have to go to work in the morning Staniam? Get a job.. or is this it? Maybe Hillary pays you to embarrass her every night on these ABC blogs…
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
Debra – I appreciate your retraction (sort of).
I will forget I read it. Thank you.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 21, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Democrats united for Hillary will never vote for Obama
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
Vickie,
You are still not looking at the big picture girl… Get over Hillary, she is a loser!
Time to really get behind a candidate that will make sure you and all of your friends have the right to choose!
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
Obama calls women sweetie. Not a foul word, but still insulting
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Write Hillary on the ballot but do not vote for the party or for Obama
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Hillary supporters who want to write her name in is great, but we must also punch the bubble on the ballot for McCain. Our votes should count for keeping Obama OUT.
Posted by: Debra | May 21, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
I will write Hillary in, Wouldn’t vote for Obama or for McCain.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Staniam,
I did some research on all the Prseidential candidates…. Including
Hillary, Romney, Huckabee, Edwards…
I chose Obama. My post was in respons to debra
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Davis…Bill Clinton won Kentucky.
Posted by: Debra | May 21, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Where in the world is Michelle Obama, and what does she hate about America today?
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am
Obama can not fool us with his staged charade of break up with Wright. He is still his mentor and spiritual advisor, they are still pals, they think alike, and Obama is unelectable.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Obama imposes conditions for counting votes in MI and FL, yet willing to meet unconditionally with foreign dictators.
Obama = better treatment for foreign dictators than the voters of MI and FL = Ridiculous!
Posted by: Mahesh | May 21, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Hillary is being supported by the RED WHITE & BLUE.
BLUE Collar working class WHITE Americans with RED Necks!!!
Posted by: rillo funqui | May 21, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Debra,
So, why is it that you hate Obama so much? Honestly…
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Libre,
If Obama is so unelectable, Why does he keep winning? Just a question.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
Davis,
Hillary is even more centrist than Bill, as such will perform even better than Bill in KY. She already did better than Bill in the primary.
Obama = rookie = smooth operator
Posted by: Mahesh | May 21, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
Can’t reply to you..guess there are a limit to how many posts you can make..or else somebody doesn’t like it that I am still going to vote for McCain
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
Most of the 17 million plus that Support Hillary Clinton and many that were fool by Obama ate the begining of the primaries won’t support him in the GE. Obama can not win just with the AA voters and a few college freshmen.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
Staniam,
Actually, you don’t know what you are talking about. The DNC, like the RNC is a private organization that can nominate whomever it pleases for president. The constitution says absolutely nothing about political parties.
I know, I have only studied and passes many constitution exams with flying colors.
Furthermore, Democrats and republicans did always have primary elections for nominations. These things were decided at the conventions through back room deals. The constitution says nothing about the rules and process in which a political party can chose its nominee. The DNC “allows” the States and voters to play a significant role in nominating its candidates, provided they follow the rules it choses to lay out. Its based largely on the choice of the people now, and the people chose Obama. Get over it. The case won’t even make it in court.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Vickie,
Wow! Well that sounds like a really dried up choice… Good luck with that. Now you and Hillary can go bye, bye!
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Obama has not explained why did he exchanged political favors to millionaires as Illonois state Senator in exchange for money, and why those millionaires are his fundraisers
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Well well well..it started working again..so I am not gone and neither is Hillary. I don’t care anymore..don’t you see..I will be happy with McCain if he wins it doesn’t have to be Hillary..I prefer her but I will be happy with McCain..and if it is neither..I will just have four more years that I don’t have a president..I’m getting use to that anyway.
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Hannah…alot of what you say makes sense and I believe McCain has been spared for a reason (he may have even said that somewhere). I am looking forward to volunteering for him in Sept. (if Hillary is out of the race) and working to get him elected. He has an AMAZING life story, which will get out there more after the Dem battling settles down. MSNBC did a great one hour bio on him….everyone should see it.
Posted by: Debra | May 21, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
We are not going to stop Obama, he is unelectable on his own. We just won’t support him, so a democrat nominee without the votes of Democrats is worth what?
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Hannah,
I will just call you crazy..
However, it seems like you have a big future here as a Hillary bot Guru!
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Pelosi will be glad, She will remain the most powerful Democrat.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
Why 9 lives? you sound very weird and just like the Obama cult. No Senator Clinton should be President. I wuld never vote for Obama or for McCain, if McCain wins he my be the lesser of two evils, but republicans won’t have my vote.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
Democrats that voted for Obama want their votes back. Gallup makes many irrelevant questions to reach their numbers, not a plain who do you prefer.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
Nobody knows how many times he dot beaten, maybe non. Republicans are corrupt and have been bleeding the country for 8 years. I know McCain will win if Obama is the nominee, but he will win without my vote. I will write Senator Clinton on the ballot.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
Obama is just worst than McCain,
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am
Mat be dumb but I want to cast my vote for Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
Debra,
Thank you, I am glad to be talking to a sensible Hillary supporter. Obama was well into politics by the time Wright started making his contraversal sermons, so I doubt he had the time to pay much attention to the sermons being deliveres every Sunday. Furthermore, I doubt Obama had presidential ambitions way back when he joined the Church.
But your statement goes to a broader question. Why is it bad that he attended an all black church? Why is America so afraid of the black community? Obama is an African American who was raised around indonesians for a time then whites. He then worked with and went to Church with African Americans… Probably in an effort to help build the community. SO, his pastor and friend turned out to be a nut case. Obama has never shown in any of his actions in all his political career and private work and studies that he believes the things Wright has preached recently.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
Super delegates still have the chance to do right by Democrats, Nominate Hillary, Obama is unelectable.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
Ok, we all know that Obama will get the nomination because he’s AA. It’s been said that there would be riots at the convention if he does not.. So we have to please the AA community. We also know that he won’t win in GE.
Posted by: This Is More Important | May 21, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
I have 1 question for liberals – you seem to hate the government so much (or more so than others) but then why do you want the government for everything (like obama wants to governize and socialize more). Have you heard of the difference of Public school and Private school or even Home school??
Posted by: hannah | May 21, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am
Debra,
We are two liberal judges away from a Supreme court that will be retiring in the next 2 to 4 years.
If McBush is in there, then Roe v Wade goes away. And so does your right to a legal abortion… BIG PICTURE FOOL!
Thanks for remembering the 60′s and the early 70′s when abortions were illegal and doctors and women were being arrested and put in jail for it!!!!
Good luck with that….
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Debra,
That’s a fair minded answer, but I disagree with you. Obama is 10 times smarter than McCain. While he does have an excellent Military service, McCain has never been one to understand the finer details of what makes things tick. I don’t mean to trash the man, but it is true that he graduated near the bottom of His class in High School and in the Navy Academy. Obama, on the other hand was President of the Harvard Law Review and has taught at the University of Chicago, one of the finest colleges in the Nation.
Furthermore, he has demonstrated that he is a quick and fast learner and a problem solver. I am not taking any credit from Senator Clinton, for she too has her list of achievements. I would have voted for her if Obama was not running. She is my number 2 choice.
As far as republicans, I think I would have preferred Romney over McCain, but that’s me. I think the President need to have the brains and the smarts to lead the nation. Bill Clinton was that man in 1992. It was the reason he was such a sucessful president. HE WAS SMART and educated. He knew how the system worked and was a fast learner for someone with limited experience prior to taking office.
Obama has shown that he can dance with the big boys and he deserves credit for that.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am
I am glad that Obama is unelectable, if president he could institute the sharia.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am
Just one more thing…this is for Davis from my previous post:
For obama blind supporters about supreme court, haven’t you heard that obama endorsed the decision of gay marriage by CA judges?? These judges approve gay marriage and refused to accept the over 60% of Californians oppose. Judges don’t have rights to make social issues based on their feelings. IS THAT THE KIND OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO CHOOSE SUPREME COURT JUDGES?? And what are you scare of? President appoints Judges and House and Congress approve. There’s no reason to doubt the Dem will take over House and Congress. If you read our history, WE NEVER DO GOOD WHEN HOUSE, CONGRESS, PRESIDENCY BELONG TO ONE PARTY. OUR SYSTEM IS BASED ON BALANCE OF POWER SO WHEN IT’S OUT OF BALANCE, THIS COUNTRY IS SHAKING. THEREFORE, IF DEM CONTROL HOUSE AND CONGRESS, PRESIDENCY MUST BE REP TO BALANCE THE POWER. We have to go with how our system sets up because when we mess up with the system, everything is out of order.
Posted by: hannah | May 21, 2008 3:06:31 AM
Posted by: hannah | May 21, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
Davis Obama is unelectable, he is divisive, deceitful, corrupt, and an empty suit
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am
Look at the real demographics of Obama foollowers. “the highly educated” is just a media hype.
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
Staniam,
Are you still buzzing around here you little racist insect?
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am
Hannah,
First of all, Obama has never expressed any kind of dislike for babies, he has two loving children of his own. He did express his dislike for overturning Roe V. Wade, acknowleding that many teens make mistakes and should not be have to be burdened with Child care when they are not ready for parenting. You can take what you want from that, but even Hillary is Pro – Choice.
Second,
Liberals do not hate the country. They just want to change it to be more progressive and less authoritorian. Hillary Clinton was out there fighting that good fight too, at one point. She campaigned hard for George McGovern, one of the most liberal democrats to ever get the nomination. That’s right Hillary and Bill were once Bleeding Hearts and had ties to many liberal radicals of that era.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am
There is a term that is used in describing college educated people who lack common sense.
Educated Fools
Let’s all try NOT to be one of those. It is such a waste of money.
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 4:52 am 4:52 am
We are not going to back barack even if Hillary asks. We will write her name on the ballot and like that she will crush Obama. McCain may win, so we will wait to 2012
Posted by: libre | May 21, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am
libre,
She is days away from telling all of you sore losers to vote for Barack!
What will you be writing about then???
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Hannah,
OK, as far as the Supreme Court Goes, The judges have EVERY Right to make such decisions, regardless of what the popular opinion is. The Supreme Court is one judge away from overturning Roe V Wade and that is a fact. One of those judges will likely retire within a McCain Presidency. You are right that congress will likely be controlled by democrats, but they will be forced to accept a conservative leaning Judge for the seat.
Oh, and for your balance of power argument, 7 of the 9 Judges on the Supreme Court were appointed by Republican presidents. How is that balanced? Furthermore, The President has a little something called VETO Power. With McCain as President, all those reforms like Healt Care, College, etc will get a big fat VETO from McCain. SO, no meaninful legislation would get passed. And lets face it, There will NOT be enough senators to overide a Presidential veto. I agree that we need some balance of Power, but that is how you end up with the stalemate that is going on right now. Then, no progress will be made.
I say BOOOOOOOO to that idea. We need a democrat in Office to fix this mess the republicans have made. I don;t care if its Hillary of Barack, I will work my hard out to see that Old John mac Daddy Cain does not win in November.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
Earlier we had military reason that McCain is better than Obama..Now we have some political ones as well:
McCain retired from the Navy in 1981 and was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives from Arizona in 1982. After serving two terms, he was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1986, winning reelection in 1992, 1998, and 2004. While generally adhering to conservative principles, McCain established a reputation as a political maverick for disagreeing with his party on several key issues. Surviving the Keating Five scandal of the 1980s, he made campaign finance reform one of his signature concerns, eventually co-sponsoring the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act in 2002.
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am
Gee Hannah,
Wouldn’t it be nice to go to PRISON for getting an abortion…
Something to think about, especially all of you Hillary “I am going to vote for McBush” women…..
Posted by: Davis | May 21, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am
At least he is tried and true.
Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information. Only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care and announce his capture. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of The New York Times and The Washington Post.
In mid-1968, McCain’s father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release. The North Vietnamese wanted a worldwide propaganda coup by appearing merciful, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially. McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.
Posted by: Vickie | May 21, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
If the superdelegates believe anything the Clintons argue, their superdelegate statuses should be revoked for incompetence.
Obama’s wins (without any distortion)
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The majority of pledged delegates.
The majority of the popular vote.
The majority of states won.
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The people of the “United” States have made our choice.
Obama ’08!
Posted by: There Is Hope For America! | May 21, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
Staniam,
There, that’s better…. Breathe.
Now, let me point out some facts to you as far as “experience” goes…
Number of years held in elected office by Hillary Clinton: 7 Years
Number of years held in elected office by Barack Obama: 11 years
Number of years held in elected office by Abraham Lincoln: 2 years
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Number of years of National Experience in elected office by Hillary Clinton: 7 years
Number of years of National Experience in elected office by Barack Obama: 3 years.
Number Number of years of National Experience in elected office by Abraham Lincoln before becoming President: 2 years
Number of years of National Experience in elected office by Bill Clinton before becoming president: 0 years
Side Note: Hillary Clinton spent 8 years as the First Lady of the United States. Although, this is not an official elected position within the Government whatsoever, in all fairness, she likely experienced tons of things and gained lots of knowledge on a Preseidential level. However, if we allow that to be the norm in which future candidates are judged, who’s to say that Laura Bush is any less qualified than Hillary Clinton? Or Future First ladys for that matter?
Side Note #2, Abraham Lincoln was a member of the HOuse of Representatives for 2 years before assuming the office of President of the United States. He is only remembered as being one of America’s greatest Presidents.
The experience argument has just been debunked.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 5:46 am 5:46 am
Is it me, or did Hillary Net more popular votes yesterday?
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 21, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am
Last night saw two larger than predicted majorities for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, but we have to show some common sense and see these are two area with strong views, but when it comes to the Election in November there is going to be a straight choice Barack Obama and Change or let McCain in and deliver more of the Bush Policy and the old politics of Washington.
Posted by: John B Sheffield | May 21, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
Mr. Coffee,
Let me clarify McNothing’s position for you. He won’t negotiate with “terrorists” because the people that control his puppet strings told him to say that. He personally has no opinion on this topic, as he can’t hold a train of thought that long . . . .
Does this help?
Posted by: DAVID NH | May 21, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Obama supporters are only fooling themselves if they think that they can persuade blue collar workers, who reject Rookie U.S. Senator’s left-wing presidential campaign, to vote for him in November.
The truth is that most Blue Collar Democrats will never unite behind Radical Obama, and they are not sheep, who will herd together– no matter how many sheep dogs and shepherds vigorously urge them to do so.
Why? Because most blue collar Democrats reject the anti-American and racist ideology of Jeremiah Wright, and they realize that the real reason why Obama listened to Jeremiah Wright’s radical left-wing sermons for 20 years is because he shared the same views.
As Jeremiah Wright admits, Obama is now distancing himself from Jeremiah Wright, because Obama is a politician.
But Obama is not fooling most Blue Collar Americans with his self-serving denials, since most Blue Collar Americans realize that Obama’s actions for the last 20 years prove that Obama and Jeremiah Wright are extremely close, as evident by the revealing facts that, not only did Obama listen to Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American and racist sermons for 20 years, but he also allowed Jeremiah Wright to marry Obama and his wife and to baptized his children.
While Obama is far left, most Blue Collar Americans are moderates.
While Obama is on the left fringe, most Blue Collar Americans are in the mainstream.
While Obama shares Jeremiah Wright’s views that white Americans are racists, most Blue Collar Americans share the common view that Jeremiah Wright’s radical views are outrageously racist, and that Obama must share Jeremiah Wright’s outrageous views by listening to them for 20 years.
Obama has a long history of associating with black nationalists, socialists, and other radical left-wingers, who most Blue Collar Americans also reject.
Obama supporters can plead with Blue Collar Americans to unite behind Radical Obama until the cows come home, but the truth is millions of Blue Collar Americans will vote for John McCain if Obama becomes the Democratic presidential nominee.
If the Democratic super-delegates want to rescue the Democratic Party’s chances of winning the White House in November, they will reject Obama, just like most blue collar voters in Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia have.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 21, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
I, for one find it so hillarious how Clinton supporters, who would normally be throwing mud at the GOP, have aligned themselves with their smear machine to try to take down Obama. Clinton supporters are starting to become almost indistinguishable from the GOP slime.
Not only are they using the same smear tactics, but now they are using the same General Election arguments. THey are now arguing this nonsense about Obama being the representation of the left wing of the democratic party. All of this based on a fool hardy report by a magazine that showed Obama being the most Liberal US Senator. They ignore that Hillary Clinton ranked in the top liberals as well.
Now, we have Democrats talking about how Liberal Obama is. Ok, I ask you to convince me. Show me the issues. Prove to me that Obama is more liberal than Clinton. Prove to me that you are not simply using arguments from FreeRepublic (Republican blog site).
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 21, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
why cant hillary win the educated vote?
if hillary is claiming sexism? does she mean from her? because if it were edwards or any of the other male nominees still in the race, they would of left a long time ago?
So why is hillary still in the race?
and why does she continue to lie to her base about being toe to toe with obama for the nomination?
She trails him by a lot?
Why does hillary continue to change the metric in which to win the nomination? As a once hillary supporter this is why i stopped supporting her lying deceitful pandering ways.
If she wants to claim the popular vote matters so much how can she claim she has just that win
a. we dont know what will happen with florida and michigan (and never mind that she only started to care about the states when she realized she was losing)
b. that she counts all the votes that were cast for her in michigan when everyone except her removed their names from the ballot. If she wants to count the popular vote from there SHE MUST give obama some of those votes from the poeple that REFUSED to vote for her and instead voted for…. OTHER
c. if every vote counts, and the popular vote is such a huge metric, then lets count the votes from the cacaus states..
Why is it always Count all the votes up until i would start losing, and then dont count them?
Why is it taking her so long to release her financial records?
How much in debt is she now?
Posted by: bhrandon | May 21, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
understand this, don’t be confused and let the media, the Clintons or any other group mislead you. Clinton has lost. The Media is just fueling this thing because many of them had no career before this election so they should be thanking both campaigns. It boils down to this, we can get united behind Obama or in four years, you can be standing in front of a house you USED to own while its being auctioned because you can’t go anywhere because you have no gas, no money because your job is in India somewhere and all you can do is say,”Damn, I can’t believe I let my stubborn, silly *%# be twisted by this process and voted for this elmer fudd looking, living of the fact that he couldn’t fly a plane, then got caught, spent years in a box and thinks that no body can challenge his view because of it idiotic attitude. Please, he wasn’t the only one in that camp and it doesn’t qualify you to run the country. Wake up or we’ll be here 4 years from now saying just that.
Posted by: Martin | May 21, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Hey DNC and superdelegates, your chosen one got his behind handed to him on a platter by a margin of 250,000 Kentucky Democrat voters. You might want to rethink that new Democrat party of Donna Brazile.
Posted by: geevill | May 21, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Your headline should read obama reaches pledged delegate majority for 48 states.
Too bad there are 50 states in the USA.
Obama does not have a majority. he is disenfranchising 2.3 million democrats without whom he cannot win in Nov.
Posted by: s.b. | May 21, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
s.b.: Super-delegates have gone to Obama 48-6 this month its just a matter of time before he is nominated. Michigan will likely go democratic this year because of the economy, but, Obama does not need Florida or Michigan to win in November.
Who can really trust Florida votes or voters anyway ?
Posted by: schlindamae | May 21, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
USMC0331
If you are a long term democrat than you embrace many socialist ideas such as uniform health care. No modern government exists today that does not have strong socialist programs inherent in its policies. grow up.
Posted by: micmacarac | May 21, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
since now, the percent of Hillary supporters not voting for McCain has risen to over 50%, Obama will not carry these states.
Correction: not voting for Obama and voting for McCain is now over 50%, Obama will not carry these states.
Posted by: david from texas | May 21, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
My mind changed last night as I was listening to Clinton and Obama’s speeches. I saw in Clinton, a candidate with the utmost passion for the American voter…..she was polished, heartfelt, and brilliant in her speech. Obama, I got the feeling he was not being truthful, that he wants the Presidency, but he didn’t seem to have the passion as Hillary does. My wife, who is an Obama supporter, first commented on how “fake” his speech seemed, that he wasn’t sincere. When Hillary spoke, her eyes welled up with tears. She decided that she will vote for Hillary, as well as I will. If Hillary doesn’t win the nomination, we both will vote for McCain. If Hillary were to run as an Independent, she would get our vote. I see this trend continuing as of last night….Obama was not sincere, does not have the passion, drive, or desire. His promises are falling on deaf ears because there is no substance to them. He is a good man, but, he’s not Presidential.
Posted by: david from texas | May 21, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Hey Jarhead,
I’m sorry you think I’m an Obama supporter, but no I’m not. I’m voting McCain. I’m a Republican. Thought I’d make a point though how childish you Dems are acting, though.
Posted by: John Q | May 21, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
dem in chicago:
Congratulations on winning the
nomination fair and square!
However you will “be stopped” in
November!
This country will not elect a
neophyte who would bomb our allies,
for example Pakistan and sit down
and talk to our enemies like
Iran, Venezuela, Syria, and Cuba
without preconditions!
This country will not elect a
candidate who will bankrupt the Treasury and the people with his billion dollar social programs like
Universal Healthcare and his Mortgage
bailout proposal!
We cannot afford to elect an inexperienced “intern” to be President of the United States of America!
The only “change” Obama will bring to this country as president would be the change left in your pocket after the tax increases to pay for his billion dollar programs! No Thanks!
Posted by: reaganfan | May 21, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
30+% of the Democrats in Indiana, Kentucky and West Virginia voted for Bush in 2000 and 20004. Why? Because they viewed Gore and Kerry as elitist and out of touch with their concerns. Those same 30% groups have now voted for Hillary and support her over McCain. So the DNC/SD’s are willing to sacrifice the party in order to force in their “Golden Boy” (NOT)? George S. stated this morning that the SD’s won’t pick Clinton over Obama because they won’t do that to the first African American candidate. What in the hell?! Oh, but they’ll screw the voters who supported this party long before Obama waltzed his brass knuckle “Change” in politics self into the party.
Posted by: irma | May 21, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
The whole world is watching us, and watching the Clintons. Do they still plan to steal the nomination from the person who won it fair and square? Does anyone believe the lie the Clintons repeat–that she has the popular votes?
1. Hillary dicounts the votes from many caucus states where Obama won.
2. Gives herself all the votes from Michigan and he no votes, where his name did not even appear, etc.
3. Then REPEATS to her supporters that she has the popular votes, so inciting them against the up-start young(er) (Black) (male) candidate who has dared to take her entitled dynastic claim away from her (and from the older white women who have sacrificed for millenia against sexism).
She is deliberately inciting a rebellion within the party to destroy Obama’s and the Party’s chances to win in November. The hatred coming from her supporters who will vote for McCain who will give us a Supreme Court that will overthrow pro-choice, pro-women rights (see Geraldine Ferraro) is all being stirred by her. As a feminist I see how Hillary’s insane lust for power is also destroying feminism’s power and will be written in the history books as part of the decline of our beloved republic.
Posted by: shirl | May 21, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Please check your facts instead of listening to HC. If the Florida votes were counted, Obama would still have +150,000 more popular votes than Clinton as of 4/21/08. It is only when you count the Michigan votes where Obama wasn’t even on the ballot that she comes out ahead. She received 328,000 votes to his zero. This puts her only 63,000 votes ahead (if you COUNT ALL OF THE VOTES of IA, ME, WA, and NV which aren’t calculated in the popular vote totals AS WELL). 238,000 people voted “uncommitted” in Michigan. Do you really think that less than 63,000 of those “uncommitted” votes were for Obama? Every vote should count, but an election shouldn’t be decided by picking and choosing which votes to count.
source http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
The fact is the Democratic Presidential Nominee is selected by a defined number of delegates that all candidates agree on before the race begins and not by POPULAR VOTE. This was calculated at 2026 delegates (minus Florida and Michigan’s delegates) for the 2008 Democratic Presidential Candidate. Obama and Clinton both promised the DNC that they would not campaign or participate in the Michigan Primary because it broke DNC rules.
From Clinton
THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).
— definitely shouldn’t have listened to her here.
Obama honored the Democratic Party’s wishes, while Clinton illegally broke her pledge to the party and is trying to count ALL OF THESE VOTES now, while not mentioning all of the other POPULAR VOTES that haven’t been counted and wouldn’t be in her favor. Why hasn’t the DNC stepped in at all to stop this? Split the votes of Florida and Michigan 50/50 and bump the needed delegate total up to a higher total. But quit falling for the POPULAR VOTE argument when one candidate received 328,000 to the other candidates ZERO when the rules were illegally broken to get those votes. This is beginning to sound like Bush v Gore circa 2000.
Ron Paul ’08
Posted by: driot.45 | May 22, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Well, well, well it’s good to see that the people who worked long and hard for Hillary-a remarkable person with amazing chops-are coming around to ssupport the party’s presumptive nominee. The polls show it. One of the reasons that Obama has gone fron a tie with McCain a month ago to leading by 8 points now (latest Zogby) is because the Hillary supporters are looking to the future. They know full well that McCain is not equal to the challange of the next four years. It’s somewhat similar to electing Hoover in 1932 as the Depression raged. We are on the edge as an economy, as a culture and as a political and moral force in the world. I understand that Obama’s message of hope and change-really he’s talking about a fundamentally spiritual change-is tough to swallow after so many years of deception and cynical manipulation. Well, look at the base that Obama has developed. It’s driving the GOP mad. They were so bankrupt that a somewhat addled “maverick” is the best that can push up on the stage. It’s going to be rough but Obama will win in spite of the overt and covert racism and right-wing bullies who will try anything to bring him down. No swift boating this time.
Posted by: PeterB | May 22, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am