Obama’s New Focus: ‘Win in November’
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: The catch phrase from Sen. Barack Obama’s press converence today was, “As the Democratic nominee, should I get the nomination…” — as he navigated toward answering questions looking forward to the general election, but seemed to try not to be (too) presumptuous about the outcome of the Democratic primaries.
But Obama reminded reporters the end of the primary campaign was drawing near.
“We only have six contests left in the Democratic primary," he said. "We are getting to the point where somebody is going to be the nominee. We’re not going to have a lot of time to pivot.”
Confirming reports that his campaign will start moving toward states that have already held their primaries, Obama said he will be actively campaigning in Michigan and Florida very soon.
Obama said he’s been focusing on McCain in stump speeches rather than his Democratic opponent, Sen. Hillary Clinton.
“John McCain’s been getting a free pass," Obama said. "For the last two months he’s been able to go on various tours and make assertions that I think are questionable, and it’s important that we as Democrats, both myself and Sen. Clinton, remind our constituencies that that’s the ultimate price — win in November — and that’s what I will continue to focus on.”
Obama said the recent flow of superdelegates coming out to support him is a sign that they want the race to be resolved soon as well.
“They think I can be a strong candidate in the general election," he said. "They are looking forward to resolving this contest as soon as we can so we can pivot and start talking about John McCain and the general election.”
When asked if he would accept a proposal by some of McCain’s advisors for joint town halls and campaigning by the two candidates, Obama said that’s something he would welcome.
“I think that’s a great idea," Obama said. "Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that.”
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Posted by: Stacey | May 10, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
This is exactly what the MEDIA and high level democratic members SHOULD be talking about.
Not picking apart anything and everything Bill and Hillary Clinton say to make a bigger divide between the the Obama and Clinton supporters.
Sometimes I wonder if the media wants Mc Cain to win.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 10, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Uncommitted Democratic superdelegates in Congress overwhelmingly say they won’t necessarily back the presidential candidate who wins the most primary delegates. Instead, electability will be very important in their
decision.
Of 42 lawmakers interviewed by The Hill, only four said they regarded the primary vote as decisive.
Posted by: Bishop | May 10, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Bishop,
As you know what politicians say and what they do are two different things.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 10, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
The more I hear from Sen. Obama, the more I can’t stand him. He is so phony, I can’t understand why people can’t see right through him. Obama is the one who seems to think he is “entitled” to this nomination, he hasn’t even begun to scratch the surface on what he needs to know on issues yet, so I can’t imagine what makes him think he is ready to run this country. For crying out loud, he doesn’t even know how many states in the union! Hillary should run as an independent….she would beat Obama and McCain.
Posted by: Deb - IL | May 10, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
It appears some are still going through the grieving stage. Acceptance will some come and the healing can start.
Posted by: Mike | May 10, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
An article I read on MSNBC stated majority of the Uncommitted SDs will endorse Obama. However, a good majority are waiting for the final primary June 3 to make it public.
The article stated, these uncommitted SDs have told both camps of their stance.
That’s the reason Obama has moved along to the November election. He knows he will have enough SDs to win the nomination.
Posted by: Vanessa | May 10, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Bishop,
It is not arrogance Obama has been taking a beating from the two Clintons, McCain, and the RNC. He is still standing and in the lead. He has come from nowhere and has done a remarkable job no matter how you slice it.
He has earned it.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 10, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Twentieth – I stand corrected
Posted by: jozy | May 10, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
The annointed one is arrogant. Annointed by Teddy, he must think voters will just fall in line. Hillary Democrats have watched him destroying the party by dissing Small-Town America and rural America and through his personal associations. Americans in the Great States of West Virginia and Kentucky will vote soon. A message will be sent to the party leaders, the super delegates, and this annointed one. Hillary Democrats await these votes and surely await November.
Posted by: benvictor | May 10, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
The more I research Obama and his stand on the issues the more I like him. He is honest. He has a very good grasp on the problems facing the United States and has solutions to carry the country forward. I now plan to attend the next Obama political event.
Posted by: WW2 | May 10, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Obama’s voters are black.92%
He cannot win the democratic white
america.
His destiny in november is to lose.
The “myth”about hope,change etc.doesn’t
fly anymore.
Voters in november are looking for certain qualities,values to vote for
president.
Check previous elections and be your own
judge.
He will join the losers club,with all
the other democratic losers.
NO OBAMA.
Posted by: Nicholas | May 10, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
92% Black??? Hmmmm……….
Even if it was true does that mean we should discount those votes?
Posted by: Thinking | May 10, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Really arrogant of you Mr. “I am a patriotic citizen of the US-all 57 of them!” COME ON !
That’s all this country needs is another eight years of ‘hush him up before he trips over his words’ kind of leadership.
A vote for Obama is a LOST vote in the general election. Period.
Posted by: catherine in NM | May 10, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
If all of the Obama supporters were 92% African American, he wouldn’t be the Democratic nominee
Lets not forget this nation is only 13% AA
Posted by: Vanessa | May 10, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I’m a Democrat and a blue collar voter, but there is no way that I’m voting for Rookie U.S. Senator Obama. Anyone who opposes a president from the far left should oppose Obama!
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 10, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Wondering if Obama is taking into consideration that most of the crossover voting by republicans will not be voting for him in the general elaction.
Posted by: sylv | May 10, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Anyone who votes for McCain must love misery or is extremely wealthy. Since most Americans do not love misery like this insane war, 5 bucks or more a gallon of gas, losing their homes and jobs, or not having health insurance, then McCain is not an option. However, for those that are wealthy, McCain will surely bring more wealth to them at the expense of the working class. It’s quite simple, more misery for us or more money for the wealthy. Ground ball.
Posted by: Jake | May 10, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
If the primaries are truly over, it is imperative to begin the write-in campaign for Hillary as an Independent. She will beat them both. Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry advising Democrats is RICH. Here are two people the country said, “Thanks, but, no thanks.” But now they have you. See now if you say I don’t want that candidate; that candidate is too liberal for me, now they get to call it racism. When we said no thanks to Mondale, Dukakis, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, we got to say no because they were not right for the job. Obama’s not right for the job, either.
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 10, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
This election is not over. I am not going to let the media pick my candidate or Ted Kennedy, Kerry, and all the rest. Obama is going to have a very difficult time winning whereas Hillary could easily win FL, Ohio, Pennsylvania…other states. I am so disgusted with the insanity of it all, the sexism, the whining, the ferocious attacks on my candidate.
Posted by: Two-cats | May 10, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
I can tell you this much if Obama is the leading man in the November primaries I will vote REPUBLICAN instead of Domocratic and support JOHN McCAIN! and this is why. I dont trust the man and I see him as a big phony individual with no experience what so ever. I have supported the CLINTONS for many years and I still do. But if Hillary doesnt make it to the November ballot I CAN GUANARTEE YOU THAT I AM VOTING REPUBLIC INSTEAD OF DOMOCRATIC! And thats the buttom line because a CLINTON SUPPORTER SAID SO!!!
Posted by: Cade S | May 10, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
In other news, 3 more suppers for Obama, one previously supporting Clinton, so far today.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 10, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Scoreboard:
2025 needed to win
Obama’s state wins 32 plus (*) lost 16, Delegate count 1863 +/-.
Clinton’s state wins 16 lost 32,
Delegate count 1693 +/-.
(*) Territories
Campaign War Chest:
Obama $50m or more
Clinton ($25m) in debt and looking for a exit Strategy
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Obama would do well to focus on the six states with upcoming primaries. Or has he already written them off?
A twist on the well known t.v. commercial seems appropriate,
“Obama may not be the nominee but he sure likes playing one on TV.”
Posted by: s. valenti | May 10, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
I’m simply stating the truth…
Controversies in which the Republicans will exploit if it were Hillary as the Democratic nominee
B/c of her baggage, I pray Obama offers the VP slot to another
Posted by: Vanessa | May 10, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Why are all the Clinton Supers and supporters jumping ship??????
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
I agree with you, libre. I would not vote Obama, even if he was the ONLY candidate running!
Jesse Ventura ’08!
Posted by: Vicki | May 10, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
The dems don’t want to win. That’s why they are falling in line with Obama.
Posted by: Vicki | May 10, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Hillary will win in West Virginia because Obama is out of touch with the people in West Virginia. They do not understand about the chosen one.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
The Clinton’s “slash and burn” race card strategy didn’t work, Bill should go back into retirement!
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Obama is arrogant and believes he is the winner but he has not won yet.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
What a choice it will be! An over-the-hill decrepit Bush-wannabe or a wet-behind-the-ears slcik car salesman.
Vote Jesse!
Posted by: Vicki | May 10, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Come November all of the “Nye Sayers” will come together for the good of the “Party”.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
All information about Obama has not surfaced yet but it will in time for Obama to lose the election to John McCain, if Obama gets the nomination.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Obama will lose. Give up now or get ready for McCain to be the next President. Obama is a pipe dream. Like someone else said, it seems like the Dems want to lose so they are flocking to Obama in self destruction.
Posted by: Shel | May 10, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I will vote McCain Obama is too shady for me.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
I dont understand why so much hatered for Obama. He has won this nomination because people voted for him over Hillary. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Hillary cannot win without the black vote, Obama cant win without the blue collar vote and Deomcrats cant win unless we are UNITED! Get over it….we all thought Hillary’s time had come, the first female president–but the majority of voters thought otherwise. Obama did not do it, voters did! Get over it!!!
Posted by: GetOverIt | May 10, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I’m tired of all the Hillary and McCain supporters (or Both, since they seem to support each other) talking about how Obama disses ‘small town rural people’ and that is what ‘is breaking the party apart’.. having Hillary disrespect the eventual nominee is what is breaking the party apart, those wounds will be harder to heal. It seem she cares more about personal ambition than anything else.
As for the ‘black vote’ being for the Obama… umm, yea, typically democrats do get the ‘black vote’.. But what is the reason to suggest that Obama can’t get the ‘white voters?’ have we forgotten that he’s ahead in the POPULAR VOTE, delegates, and now superdelagates – which hillary had a lead of more than 100 in January?
How do you get ahead in the popular vote with just blacks when they’re only 14% of the population?
Posted by: Igorance | May 10, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Clinton Democrats,
Tell your friends to switch to McCain. After all, McCain is closer to Clinton than what the Obamites want. They are both centrists. Lets elect McCain for President so Clinton would come blazing by 2012.
Lets Unite! McCain ’08 and Clinton ’12.
Posted by: hmr | May 10, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
hmr – and you guys suggest that Obama is the one breaking the party apart?
Posted by: ... | May 10, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
The Democrat Party with Howard Dean , the Jelly Bean Man doesn’t care about voters that vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Yea.. I’m sure they’re the only ones who count.
Cmon people.. think!
Posted by: Anders | May 10, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
I am a Democrat who will definitely vote for McCain in the GE if Obama is the nominee. Besides all of his associations and personally admitted “boneheaded” moves already in the public domain, he now says that he will declare himself Messiah on May 20th before my state even gets to vote. He confidently states that he doesn’t care about my vote, so he simply won’t get it. Also, I need a president who knows how many states there are in the Union. Do the other 7 he has visited and the 1 he is going to (which we know are not Alaska or Hawaii – he said so) perhaps Pakistan, Iran, Myanmar, Indonesia, and the like? Those states who are such friendly powerhouses in our Union?
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
If Obama drops out Hillary will become president.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
If Obama drops out the Obama supporters want vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
“Dream on”!
It is doubtful that BO will be any different to meet the fate of a typical dems Presidential nominee – high hypes and then losing in general election.
Posted by: fat cat | May 10, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Next week Obama will receive many more Super-Delegates endorsements to add to his totals.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Isn’t it presumptuous for Obama to present himself as the nominee before the Democratic election is over? He seems to be conceding himself as the winner. He says he’s going to start campaigning very soon in MI and FL. Is it for the delegate vote which is on the DNC’s agenda for resolving on May 31st, or is it being done on his presumption as the Democratic nominee? His statements lend themselves to more questions.
Posted by: katrina | May 10, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Hillary Democrats for the first Woman President of the United States of America. Hillary receives support from Small-Town America, from rural America, from big City America, from the Big States necessary to be successful in November such as California, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Massachusetts and on and on. We now look forward to West Virginia and Kentucky. Send a message loud and clear to the party leaders, the super delegates, and the one annointed by Teddy. And, Hillary Democrats look forward to November.
Posted by: benvictor | May 10, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
The sad thing is that the dems have no way out. God knows how they get themselves into this mess. They were somehow able to manage to choose the weakest nominee, while the Reps were able to get McCain who is the only person in that party to remotely, now at least 50% chance, win the general election this year.
The typical dems pres. nominee club keeps growing.
Posted by: fat cat | May 10, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
The race is over for “Hillary Clinton” it will start to sink-in for the none believers.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Hillary and Bill are reaching for straws and trying to fool the people in KY and WV it wont work the American people are fed up with the Clintons, Bushs, and the old sneaky McCain Bush want-to-be politics as usual. The American people are to smart for that and will turn the page. The talk radio Conservatives “shook Jocks” want the American people to believe that their for Hillary but they want the fight between Hillary and Obama to continue until November to try and make McBush look good that want work either.
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Obama supporters would come together and vote for Hillary if she makes the chosen one her spiritual advisor, a new cabinet post.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
The point is that Obama wants the democratic VOTERS to win, and he wants to do positive things to make that happen for the VOTERS. He has always said from the beginning, way back before he was winning, that no matter which democrat wins, he will be out there working for them to make sure that the democratic VOTERS get a democratic president in the White House. This presdential race has never been about Obama, and he has said that, he has always said that he will work for the VOTERS, because he wants them to have their tax cuts, and their health care insurance, and wants soldiers to come home from Iraq, for their families, to make sure th back to their families, and he wants the trade deals we have with China, Canada, and Mexico, to be renegotiated so that they become beneficial for the people of the USA. Obama wants people to have green jobs, jobs that cannot be outsourced, and he for people in this country to work toward energy independence. Obama has always said that he wants for the people of this country to have the best pre-school, elementary school, and highschool education for their children, and for people in this country to be able to afford to send their children to college. Obama has said from the beginning, when he started running over a year and a half ago, that this presidential campaign is about the people of this country, and he has said that he will work for whomever wins the nomination, because in the end it is about the VOTERS, what they need.
Posted by: SARA | May 10, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
The country is why I would vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
katrina, it is far more than just presumptuous. It is arrogant, elitist, divisive, and just plain ugly. I wished that I was “a typical white person” or a black person so I could understand how anyone could vote for someone who only considers certain narrow segments of the population worthy of him and the rest of us a “throwaways”. I was floored as I listened to him speak in Bend today and blatantly diss a HUGE segment of his audience in the room by putting them behind blacks, whites, hispanics, asians… it turned my stomach. I have gotten a number of e-mails from friends there who got up and walked out. If you can be in the room with us and absolutely not see us, how invisible will we be when you are in the White House….
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Next week Obama will receive many more Super-Delegates endorsements to add to his totals.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
McCain wants to give the working people a little relief on gas prices this summer but Obama said he would veto it.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
The Superdelegates can change thier support in a flash. This means nothing. Obama has not won this nomination yet.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I’m an another “typical white” women voting for Hillary Clinton, if not her than McCain !!!
Posted by: Eva | May 10, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Tonight please take the time to look up the new states that Obama allegedly has been to… Apparently, we have 7 more states….
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
If the Gas Tax legislature were to pass this summer it wouldn’t be pass down to the consumers and by this fall gas prices will be back up to $4.00 a gal and $125.00 to $155.00 barrel?
The US has no fuel policy that can match OPECs wheeling and dealing.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
obama, that is spin not pivot, and you are good at that, more goody goody speechs with nothing in them, give us a break, you are not going to win because the TWP is not going to vote for the TBP.
Posted by: stan | May 10, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Obama played by the rules and beat Hillary fair and square. I was willing to support either of them since their policies are so similar (as opposed to McCain) but Hillary’s “Sniper Fire” lie and Bill’s slick-talking race-baiting has turned me off. I think all loyal Democrats should remember we are the ONLY inclusive party that represents the middle and lower classes. Any “democrat” who says that they will vote for McCain if Hillary doesn’t get it was going to vote for McCain anyways… Or they won’t for a white/black mixed person no matter what their politics are. But it’s America, and being a racist is your right… Just admit it and don’t hide behind Hillary’s skirt.
Posted by: Travis | May 10, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
um no…i will not vote for Obama because of your false threats about abortion rights being overturned. McCain is actually pro-choice and always has been. He’s just pretending to be anti-abortion to make the 30% religious nuts of the Repubs happy until he gets elected. If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination, I will still not vote for Obama and I have no fear of abortion rights being overturned.
Posted by: Shel | May 10, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Hillary Clinton should drop out of race after KY and VW primaries.
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
We all know that the republicons are desperate and will resort to the only thing that works for them … personal slanders. I think that Obama’s instinctive approach will be to attempt to rise above the republcicon slanders. He will give gentle spankings to the republicons who become a bit too rabid in their personal attacks. Then, he will make it clear that this mentality among our politicians is what has weakened America. Finally, he will re-direct the republicons’ childish behavior back to the issues and point out key policy differences that Americans care about.
But that’s not to say that it won’t be discussed by the media, as we all do seem to love our salacious material. I’d like to hear more about McCain’s connection to and support for pastor Hagee, as I find pastor Hagee extremely distasteful and wrong-headed. I’d like to hear more about McCain’s wife’s tax records and about her liqour baron family. Where is The Enquirer when you need it? I’d also like to know if McCain biographers’ allegations are that McCain serially cheated on his first wife repeatedly for eight years upon being let go, culminating in the marriage of a soon-to-be liqour baroness one month after dumping his first wife who waited for him while he was POW. But I don’t want to hear about McCain’s personal scandals from Barak Obama. I want Barak to be able to focus on the issues that really matter for this country … jobs, economy, bringing the troops home, restoring america’s reputation and the credibility of its government, overcoming our addiction to oil, saving the environment, fighting disease, and on and on.
This brings me to my last point … For me, a President should have an interest in an endless variety of subjects. They should enjoy getting up to speed on as many topics as they can. After all, as President, they’re going to be making fundamental decisions affecting all of these topics and more.
I was amazed to hear McCain say that he doesn’t know much about the economy. I’ve been even more amazed to find out what all he truly doesn’t know about the economy. The man is 72 years old, has been a key political figure for decades, and yet has somehow managed to never take enough of an interest in the economy to be able to coherently talk about it. With so many decisions on so many areas that our President will have to make, it would be complete foolishness to expect someone with McCain’s demonstrated lack of interest in fundamental issues to keep up with what should be the hardest job on the planet.
Posted by: hesingswithfrogs | May 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama/Pelosi 08… You really mean Pelosi??! LOL LOL LOL
NOW that’s what I call a REAL CHANGE!
A CHANGE You CanNOT believe in!
Posted by: DMK | May 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama will not talk about West Virginia or Kentucky. This is unusual because Obama is bragging about how much he is going to win by in most states. This is very strange indeed.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Hillary has proved to be a real fighter…
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
John McCain best days are behind him and the “rocking chair” is waiting on him.
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lookup | May 10, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
CountrybeforeParty – high gas prices do not bother me. I own outright 3 new, large SUVs, which I eco-drive and drive infrequently. I have full health care, unless Obama decides that career military retirees don’t deserve that, anymore. I have full retirement pay from my own 36 years of work (and health care from that, as well) and a very healthy 401K from that adventure, a stock portfolio, bonds, and the like. I paid the pig first for decades, starting long before that ever became a campaign that no one pays attention to. No foreclosure for me. I didn’t borrow huge amounts from my equity and double-paid my mortgage. And I resent you saying that I am not a Democrat, as both my father and grandfather were. I know it is hard to believe from your viewpoint, but there are hardworking, responsible, secure people in the party that can take care of anything that is thrown at them because they take care of themselves and are not looking for handouts. I gave every opportunity to earn my vote, but he is announcing his ascendency before my state even gets to vote.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
hesingswithfrogs made some very good points in his comment. I have also wondered how McCain could be a senator for so long without understanding how the economy works. How could he vote correctly on the many bills that influence the economy without a good grasp of the subject? Maybe we need a mandatory test that anyone who is running for a political position must pass to continue on. The economy and budgeting could be two of the main topics! (Would Hillary do okay on economics if she was all for the gas tax holiday despite the experts saying it was a bad idea for consumers?)
I am looking forward to watching Obama redirecting the focus of the fall campaign back to the issues that matter to all us ordinary Americans.
Posted by: Lydia | May 10, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Let’s confront it head on, the chosen one hasn’t been chosen yet.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Any Democrat who would vote for McCain over a Democratic nominee just because it’s not the Democrat they wanted is not a Democrat.
As for Obama turning his guns on McCain, why not? The Democrats have to stop fighting eachother. Clinton needs to do the same. This fight is supposed to be about who can beat Bus…McCain in November, so why not have a look at that fight early to choose a winner.
At the end of the day, we need a Democrat in the White House. If you think McCain isn’t just another Republican, 4 more years of GWB you’re kidding yourself. He’s exactly like Cameron in the UK: billed as moderate, centrist…Really dyed-in-the-wool right wing.
Posted by: Jens | May 10, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Hillary supporters should realize that she lost this nomination by not preparing for it! She thought she was the winner before the contest even started. Her vote for the war is really what killed her. She was trying to look tough on defense and now it’s come back to bite her in the ass. Opportunistic, calculating and insincere… It’s not that people won’t vote for a woman for president, just not this one.
Posted by: Travis | May 10, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
The gas tax holiday would save 18 cents which is what the tax is per gallon. It would remain stable for awhile and drop slowly. This a big savings for working people that drive long distances to work and truckers and anyone that drives long distances, even if only for a short period of time. Hillary has long term plans too which are much more detailed than Obama’s.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hillary “Rodham” Clinton—remember when she demanded the media to use that name–changes her tune depending on the how the wind is blowing. Polls shouldn’t be used to determine decisions. She is now trying to torpedo Obama so she can try to run again in 2012. Do you really think she wanted Kerry to win in 04? Instead of healing the party, she’s doing her best to ensure the Republicans stay in the White House.. So she can run again of course!
Posted by: joe bray | May 10, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I won’t for Obama unless Clinton is on his ticket. McCain, you had better hope the oil companies front you some serious air-time because we won’t be fooled twice (Rove was never that bright – he didn’t trick my vote).
Posted by: Joe | May 10, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
It’s quite surprising to me that many of you guys on here are claiming the black votes are the reason Obama is in the lead. Some of you either can’t do math or something is wrong with you guys. Blacks are a minority in America, how could the black votes be the only votes Obama has why he is in the lead?
Posted by: jj | May 10, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Either McCain or Obama as President are a win-win for me. I am a super high income kind of guy and if McCain wins, I seriously win big time, because I won’t get taxed to death by populist democrats! If on the other hand, Obama wins, I’ll pay through the nose and have my money redistributed to everyone else that is less fortunate than I am, but at least the country will hopefully end up in better shape- an improved image around the world, health care for everyone, jump start for the economy, and actually get out of the Iraq War! The latter is really why I favor Obama in the national election, even though I have been a life long Republican. My friends think I’m crazy, but sometimes you have to do the right thing for the country, even if it kills you in your wallet. Virtually no one agrees with me, so I guess McCain will be the man this fall, especially with all the Hillary Dems defecting to the Republican/Rush side.
Posted by: rick | May 10, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Democrats need to come together or it will be 8 more years of Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and the likes. The economy is a mess. We can’t even afford eggs anymore and here we are tearing the party apart. John McCain is comitted to the iraq war, simply put, we cannot afford the war. We will soon be reduced to a third world country.
Posted by: observer | May 10, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Superdelegates can change thier vote on a dime.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 10, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
observer – you are right. You need to work hard to get Bo unelected from the dems preliminaries.
He is the only and biggest seller in this general election, and the dems establishments were able to locate him.
Posted by: fat cat | May 10, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
McCain = centrist, experienced, hero
Obama = socialist, black reparations, zero
Who do you think the center of this country will gravitate to? :)
Posted by: Chill | May 10, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
To all of you who have a bias opinion about the candidates and would choose McCain if Clinton does not get nominated, remember this, we vote for what is best for the country, not for a woman because I am one, not for party or left or right.
WE vote for the candidate who is able to lead…a leader needs to inspire the people and give them the opportunity to realize their potential and dreams in a free nation.
When you look at the credentials, the character, the past behavior, the ability to build coalitions and to inspire young people to take charge of their future, Sen.Obama is your president.
Go to the site and read all the informations, read his books, learn the truth about the candidate yourself rather than trough the media and then make your decision.
I would love a woman for president but Clinton is not the right one at this time in history and does not reflect the ideal of the new generation and a global economy. She is divisive and confrontational.She is the past and we moving on to the future.
The republican party is weak and has become too entrenched with special interest, they do not have majority in congress, we would waste so much time getting things done we will be worse off then we are now.
The world is watching, rise to the occasion Americans and vote for the right person who knows how to build consensus and bring prosperity and peace to this country.
Posted by: lea ,fredericksburg,va | May 10, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Travis
In november activists and delegates
like you,they don’t have any control
of the agenda.
Only the votes and the”electaral college” will determine the outcome of the elections.
Obama lost all the big states with the
majority of the electoral votes.
Obama’s changes to win is zero.
Do the math.
Oh! study the “electoral college”
Resently Gore and Kerry lost because of
the magic number of 270 electoral
votes.
JOHN McCAIN ’08.
Posted by: Nicholas | May 10, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Isn’t Barack putting the cart before the horse? He hasn’t even won the nomination. Half the DEMOCRATIC VOTERS are against Obama. We have not been dazzled by his chicanery.
Posted by: Carlos | May 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Elections do not guarantee the selection of the most qualified person. Bush-Gore is a perfect example, but you had to wait for 8 years to figure that out.
BO-HRC is a more obvious example, and you do not even need to wait until the election is over.
Posted by: boneheaded, chicago | May 10, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Obama has won me over. The man has done his homework and has put together an outstanding plan to move America back to its position as a world leader. Right now the country is floating without a definite clear direction. Obama knows what he is doing. Go and study up on his ideas. I bet you will be impressed.
Posted by: Jay | May 10, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
The damage is done quite frankly. Democrats are just too full of hatred right now to come together. Hilary supporters won’t vote for Obama if he’s the only guy left on Earth, and Obama supporters think Hillary has unfairly attacked their candidate and dragged him through the gutter, so that now he is unelectable. Racial attacks and fears congest the blogs. Not only that but everyone is threatening to vote for McCain now if their candidate loses the nomination. Remember when Ann Coulter threatened to vote and campaign for Hillary if McCain was elected? She unapologetically did not. Just how do the democrats ever work things out and come together in time for the national election? It seems too late for the healing to happen in my opinion, and it’s probably only going to get progressively worse over the next several weeks. This is sad, even from my Republican viewpoint, because I was ready to become an Obamacan.
Posted by: rick | May 10, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
If Obama is the candidate, just prepare for the biggest win of the republicans ever.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | May 10, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Here is why Obama would be a goner in November:
Background: Grassroots Republicans can barely stand McCain’s stench. They will come out to vote in November only if he is running against a severe leftie, like Obama. Also, the Republic fundraising machine will not get going unless McCain runs against somebody the Right believes to be dangerous to the country — which is what they believe Obama to be.
The match-ups: Hillary versus McCain: She will be aided by Hollywood and the old media. Her image will be resurrected (in about three days) and she will win by about four points.
Obama versus McCain: In this scenario, McCain *will* be able to get out the vote of middle American, and he will easily win. Expect him to be out spent severely, but still be able to tap into the inherent electoral reality.
Posted by: Mark | May 10, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
I think that Hillary knows that she’s not going to be the nominee. So why doesn’t she give up, you ask? The reason is simple. The Democratic primary has motivated people to get involved in ways and in numbers that they have never done before. Continuing the primary will keep involving thousands of new democratic voters. And once someone chooses to vote for in a party’s primary, they are astronomically more likely to vote for that party in the fall. The end result will be that democrats, as a whole, will be much more active, and will come to the polls in much greater numbers than republicons.
Posted by: hesingswithfrogs | May 10, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
I’m a blue collar Democrat, but there is no way that I’m voting for Obama.
Say what every you want, buy if Obama becomes the Democratic presidential nominee, millions of blue collar Democrats will vote for McCain in November.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 10, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Let me repeat what a growing number of democrats are saying – either Hillary is the nominee or I vote for McCain in the GE. Obama cannot win!
Posted by: greg | May 10, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Jay – in your reading did you happen to come across the transcipt of his interview where he stated clearly, and in no uncertain terms, that he would kill our US military when he pulls them out arbitrarily and without strategic plans in place against the advise of the top boots on the ground? You are saying that you are impressed that he is going to kill mine, so that they can be incinerated in a pet crematory after they are taken to the facility from Dover without a flag over their very coffins? And that I should rejoice when I get a Siamese or an alley cat, a Manchester Terrer or a mongrel to put on my mantle? Or was he just lying about that and he really does have outstanding plans to remove the military without massive deaths at the hands of the enemy. Either way, I’m impressed. NOT!
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
I agree with all the Clinton supporters who are crossing over to the Republican side.
Posted by: Decided | May 10, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
What do you call a “movement” that only has 50% of the popular votes. I think you call it a “farce”.
Posted by: lisaT | May 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
America deserve better than a media product as a A Obama as a nominee is good for internment. But I wouldn’t let my children future in this guy hands.
Posted by: miki1155 | May 10, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
A vote for Obama is a vote for Wright!!!!!!!!!!
McCain 2008…A true Americian
Posted by: keith1212 | May 10, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Obama saying McCain has gotten a free pass from the press? That is funny.. Hypocrite!
Posted by: DWC | May 10, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Barack & Michelle Obama have shown nothing but disrespect for this country and the American people both democrat and republican will never support Obama. It really has nothing to do with Clinton but everything to do with the hate filled Obamas.
Posted by: garrison | May 10, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
How is it that what is going on in Michigan and Florida Obama’s fault?
How is it that a Democrat can vote for one who is so philosophicaly and fundamental different out of spite? You will vote for McCain just to ” get back at Obama and his voters or the democratic party?
Does anyone on any board even know what racism means? It has been attached to Hillary and Obama unfairly too often.
Why are so many people out for revenge based on what a candidates supporters say?
Everytime a read a message board people are squaring off based on what a suppoter said and not a candidate.
I am an Obama supporter…But you better understand that if Hillary were to win the nomination I would be in live voting for her. Oh My God people. Get some Peace in your lives.
Posted by: too rational for words | May 10, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
How can the race be finished until all the states have voted, it seems to me as taxpayers and registered voters our voice and votes should be counted before the race is finished. Our state has not voted and it tics me off that the media is reporting that Hillary should throw in the towel. The race isn’t over until every body has voted. I believe that she is the one to stand up and beat John Mccain, Obama needs a little more experience under his belt before he tries to run our country. Running a country is little bit different than being a senator from Ill. Wake up America.
Posted by: Sunshine | May 10, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Obama wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee if it weren’t for the fact that voters in Florida and Michigan were denied our right to vote. I COULDN’T vote for Obama for the primary and I WON’T vote for him in the national election. You should have helped us Obama – since you didn’t I see no reason to help you.
Posted by: allie | May 10, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
No one has any constructive ideas on how to heal the democratic party now? Most of the democrats on this blog now seem to be on the McCain train, but this doesn’t seem like it will help turn our country around. 8 more years of the same old stuff- really?
Posted by: rick | May 10, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
SOOO if McCain is now focused on Obama..Obama should just ignore him?
Then the media and voters would say..well why is Obama not answering McCain’s attacks.
The anger among supporters of both candidates is scary. I can’t believe most of you use energy being angry and vindictive. SMH.
Democrat ’08
Posted by: too rational for words | May 10, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I guess it is too late for conciliation and unity. what a turn around for the energized Democratic party in just a few short months. Remember the palpable excitment at the debate in California. It looked like the democrats were going to kill the republicans in the national election. Something horrible has happened to democrats- not the candidates. Ever read the book, Lord of the Flies? This election has brought out the absolute worst in all of us. Not unexpected given the first race between a black or first woman candidate for president. What is curious, is if the electorate is really this divided or this just reflects the sometimes hyper-intense blogosphere bubble. Why do the superdelegates, the party insiders, and Clinton friends, feel so differently about this, swinging heavily towards Obama?
Posted by: rick | May 10, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
It is very sad that a few people do not want to accept the reality: THE CLINTON BRAND IS OLD AND SHE IS A LOSER.
I DO NOT WANT BARACK TO HELP HER PAY FOR HER SO CALLED “DEBT”
Posted by: sam | May 10, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
How many of us Clinton Dems are leaving the Party and going for McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination?
Posted by: mpwdc | May 10, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
mpwdc, sadly sounds like most of you on this blog will vote with the republicans for McCain. But please, stop thinking Hillary will get the nomination. No one, not even Hillary or Bill thinks this now. They’re just hoping that something horrible will happen to Obama in the next few weeks. There is no other way- realistically. Miracles do happen, but rarely in politics.
Posted by: rick | May 10, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
lea – BM and Fox interviews.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Obama is going to win in the fall by a landslide. People will realize that we don’t need an OLD man that will basically be “bush/cheney term-3″. How the hell did bush get elected twice? Hopefully this country has grown a little wiser over the last 8 years. Obama is the right person for the right time. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Nice going LEA…what a way to alienate half of the party that you support. Why don’t you just give them all McCain buttons and show them where his campaign headquarters are in all of the states?
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Obama supporters, if you really want a better America, then you must not disenfranchise Florida voters. Obama’s candidacy will be considered a fraud, and it will be a talking point for Republicans throughout the general. We should all be on the same page when it comes to getting Florida voters heard, because it is a sure fire way to lose the general for Obama if he ignores two huge states. Hillary sees and knows that the Democratic nominee must have all the states counted, to ensure voters do not feel left out of this process. Trust me, if you truly want your candidate to have a chance to be president, then you do want Florida and Michigan counted. Obama will look illegitimate without them!
Posted by: Hope | May 10, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Lookup, GET REAL. FL & MI SCREWED UP. They broke the rules and were punished. Like a spoiled child hopefully both states have learned their lesson. Maybe they can get it right in the fall for the general election. Obama 2008!
Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Obama has run an outstanding campaign… incredible organization and leadership. He is the only one who has acted like a president throughout this race. Hillary sounds sometimes overly emotional, hysterical even, and this is the kindest way of putting some of the over-the-top negative female attributes she’s been showing AND which do not belong in politics. We need ration and steadiness, not just guts and glory (Hill and McCain)… Sure a woman can do the job… but she has not proven to be the one … It is sad… but, true. WV and KY will have a hard time dealing with a black president… but maybe it’ll help them in the end…. it isn’t only guns and 4-wheelers and church going on in those hills… Fortunately, at this point, the presidency doesn’t rest upon those votes.
Posted by: origood | May 10, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
You are either with change or against us.
We choose to “relight the beacon”…
Posted by: dl | May 10, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
jonny, the fall election is not even going to be close. Once people begin to know the true mc-more-war who is an adulterer, a flip-flopper, uneducated about economics, and an OLD hot-head to boot, etc. etc.. The reason the dem primary was so close is because the dems had great candidates. The GOP had nobody…look who they ended up with…even most of their own party doesn’t like the guy. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Hope- great post. But, you must remember that he does not care about WV or KY, MI or FL. What about poor MT and my SD? Heck, he has 7 other states that he has already visited over the 50 legally in the Union that are not AK or HA, with one left to go – and we do not count. He stood in a room filled with NAs today in Bend, one of the largest Nations, and mentioned us behind hispanics and asians.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
pt…EXACTLY…since McCains own party hates him it makes it easier for Dems and Independents to vote for him :-)
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
A, Obama doesn’t need defending unlike the other candidates running. My guess is you are one of the ones that voted for the bush-league twice. If there were justice these people should have to sit this one out because you need to have the judgement of at least a ten year-old to cast a ballot. Obama 2008!
Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
sorry raleigh, that won’t be enough. This Obama tsunami has brought in too many new voters. This voters are anxious to vote for someone that will make a difference in the average person’s like unlike bush/cheney who took care of the top 5%. Isn’t it great that Obama has funded his campaign thru ordinary citizens unlike the other candidates. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | May 10, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
The DNC must let the votes from Florida stand and cannot disenfranchise Michigan voters. Democrats have cried for years because of the trickery that Bush and Rove used in 2000, we will be nothing but hypocrits if this continues. If Obama is going to win, let him win fair and square, with all the votes counted. That is all Hillary wants…there is nothing illegal about that. Democrats everywhere should be outraged that republican legislatures in both states are allowed to basically taint the Democratic primary. Hillary knows that if we have a nominee who does not honor those votes, those states will NOT vote for a democrat in the general. Obama supporters everywhere need to support the decision to get Florida and Michigan counted—he will be considered a fraud and the GOP will never let this fact rest. It is not just Hillary supporters who need Florida and Michigan, Obama does too.
Posted by: Hope | May 10, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Sorry PT that you have not done your research. Past increases in Dem voter registration shows very little effect on the General election outcome. I have read numerous articles on the subject. I believe in 2004, there were record numbers of Dem voters in swing states but did it matter?
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I agree HOPE…2000 was a nightmare for the Democrats. I was glued to the news for the longest time. I just do not understand why the DNC continues to do things the way they do.
It will change, they are already in the process of doing something about it…for future elections anyway.
I just wish we could shorten the process. It seems unfair that some states have more of a say and a lot of it has to do with the media coverage.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Skyebeader…it is not over until everyone has voted and the nomination secured. It is a shame to feel that way.
Believe me I know. When the state that you live in always goes RED in the national election and you vote for it to go BLUE, it always feels like your vote doesn’t count.
It should be about he who gets the MOST votes wins.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Hillary is…the PROVEN leader, with the BEST plans for America’s future…the BEST choice for President. This is not a popularity contest, this is about our future…DON’T roll the dice…Hillary 08! Obama and Democrats can’t survive the shadow of not counting Florida and Michigan…Tell the DNC all votes matter…and we want the nominee who wins fair and square. if that is Obama, so be it, but if it isn’t then it is not fair to MILLIONS of Americans!
Posted by: Hope | May 10, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
The Obama superdelegates in all 57 states are super stupid
Posted by: Moe | May 10, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Raleigh, you tell me that on May 20, two weeks before I get to cast my vote. When I see the alphabets, the msm, the cables and sats say “it’s a done deal, now”. I know I am B) uneducated and dumb. Because I used to have an addie on the res… Someone here told me that tonight in no uncertain terms. Thanks, anyway. We know everything about dreams. Wanna buy a Dream Catcher? I’ll give you discount… because you seem to be nice and recognitive.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Skyebeader – First of all, Obama never said he was going to claim the nomination after May 20. Secondly, this primary contest has gone deeper into the primary season than any campaign in recent memory.
I’m in Montana, so I know how it feels to always go last, but that is the state’s own fault for insisting on having their primary in June.
Posted by: jock59801 | May 10, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
jock…do you not remember 1980? It was not THAT long ago. Kennedy was behind a heck of a lot more than Clinton and he took it all the way to the convention.
I do remember something about May 20th but I will need to see if I can find out what was actually said.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
sandy…Clinton will probably gain quite a bit of the popular vote in the next two states. And let us not forget Puerto Rico which has a heck of a lot of voters with a large majority who side with Clinton.
Maybe this is why some are calling for Clinton to quit?
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 10, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Sorry…Kennedy was way behind Carter…duh…
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 10, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
lea, just simply try Wallace-Obama in a search engine. You do not care about my sons. I do. You are going to have to scroll a bit, and read.
Posted by: Skyebeader | May 10, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
It seems to be clear that nothing major is going to happen until June 3, and that seems appropriate to me. But I think and hope things will start happening very quickly after that.
Posted by: jock59801 | May 10, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
People are making a very big mistake by even thinking Obama could win in November if you my party isnists on nominating the most liberal candidate in every cycle they just need to get out of the party period we will not vote for Obama!
Posted by: staniam | May 10, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
It’s about time. He should have been working towards this a coupl of weeks ago. but the negative campaign tactics delayed the inevitable conclusion to the ongoing campaign drama.
I have been a democratic voter for many elections and I have never seen a woman or black man create so much excitement.
I believe that the Obama appeal is his background and his platform to work with ordinary Americans. He understands what prejudice is and he didn’t grow up having everything, but his single (white) mother gave him the tools and support he needed to work towards earning a good education and self improvement. I believe he wants to “Unite” people and energize them as equals to do the best they can to live the American dream and that is truly a new dynamic.
I believe he will work for all the people and that is a very important part of being Commander and Chief of the greatest nation on earth.
I am proud to say I went into the California primary booth to actually vote for Senator Clinton because I knew who she was and out of nowhere I voted for Obama, a light went on in my head in the voter’s booth and I couldn’t forget his theme “CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN”. I thought for a few more seconds about some of his campaign slogans and things he brings to the table, so I voted for Obama.
I think all Americans need something to believe in and someone who understands the human condition before political fallout.
Posted by: Lou | May 10, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Obama will not win the GE get over it
Posted by: staniam | May 10, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
The DNC is tryingto throw Clinton under the bus as they like to say and we as the american punlic should not allow it … its not over yet Obama is ignoring WVA and KY
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Hillary supporters please don’t vote Republican, write Mrs. Clinton on the ballot or vote Nader instead. I just simply don’t understand where all the money Mr. Obama got came from. It has to come from people who do not wish tax cuts rolled back, insurance companies, oil companies and corporations who keeps us stripped from our hard earned money. I don’t trust this huge fund raising capability, I think Mr. Obama is being used and the media will dispose of him later. a candidate who attract that much money is subject to manipulation.
Posted by: alice | May 11, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
In the story Obama says he would welcome “town hall” type meetings with McCain, but then says his campaign would have to think about the logistics of it. Hm-m-m-m, would he be trying to get out of more debates just like he did with Hillary? What a phony! What a coward! And he wants to be Commander-in-Chief! What a disgrace to even think of this man as the head of the bravest fighting force in the entire world.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | May 11, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
The “New” ultra-left progressive Democratic party has left the bitter, typical Americans behind. The party where feel good slogans with no substance rule and experience is over-rated. Progressive foreign policy dictates that all we need to do is just need lie prostate at the feet of our enemies, grovel and beg them for forgiveness. There will finally be peace on earth!
Posted by: Mack | May 11, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
And he says he’s going to campaign now in Florida and Michigan! Wait, let me get this – your attorneys veto a revote for Michigan, you have been fighting to not let the votes in Florida be counted as certified, but you expect to go to these states and wave your magic wand and all of the people whom you disenfranchised in the primary will be tripping over themselves to vote for you in the general election? Sorry, can’t write any more, I’m laughing too hard!
Posted by: Grammy Barb | May 11, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
How the party thinks that Obama can win without Democrats from California, Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan, Florida, …? and the rural, blue collar, and Hispanic votes everywhere?
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Obama does not want to give Democrat voters in Florida and Michigan the right to vote for their choice of nominee and now wntas to start campaigning ther? He is oportunistic and deceiving. The worst kind of politician, one we cano not believe.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Obama does not want to give Democrat voters in Florida and Michigan the right to vote for their choice of nominee and now wants to start campaigning there? He is oportunistic and deceiving. The worst kind of politician, one we can not believe.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
I say all the Hillary democrats join together to expose this illegal take over of our party we will not vote for Obam how many times do we have to say it?
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
If you all want the old Kennedy felling again vote Obama. If you want soldiers dying, and by the way that will be all races that are fighting and dyeing,vote for McCain its that simple. For all the Hillary fans she will have another chance.Maybe the next time she wont go so negative.I am a little saddened that people still back her even after she went openly racial. If someone who was going for president started turning to their kind when their job is to be for everyone I would have a hard time talking to god if I still supported this person. Common since that is wrong, thats why barack is going to win is because he brings everyone together. Be happy people we are in good hands with Obama.
Posted by: Libra 75 | May 11, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
Give me a brake. Obama may even lose California. Chinese and Oriental accounts for 10% votes in the general election. 85% of them will not vote for Obama. India and Parkistan decents and south Asia American account for 5% of the California general election vote, 85% of them will not vote for him. Latino account for 25-30% votes, 55% will not vote for him. How could one tell that he will win if you have a brain that can do math and that is different from Obama’s base and campaign.
Republican knows this. Media knows this too. Do you think that the media that sent Bush to White House will he Democratic party? They gave Obama a free ride only for him to drop and collapse.
Posted by: UScitizen2144 | May 11, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
With all said above, Obama will lose Ohio and Pensivania. He offended Forida and Michigan voters there and will surely lose there. Even for the North Carolina that he win the media propaganda 18%, will still win by Republican.
The Democratic big leaders who supported Obama knew this quite well. Yet they would rather lose the election than to let Mrs. Clinton to win since these leaders mind are soaked with selfishness instead of people’s interest. When Obama lose, they can use their support for Obama as a trade for their 2012 running.
Posted by: UScitizen2144 | May 11, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Libra 75
Obama will not win the GE and we will fight him for the Nomination Obama will not be president now way no how!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Staniam:
I disagree, McCain would be a bush 3rd term. Obama will rip him apart mentally. You must give obama credit for great campain skills he will expose mcCain in every direction.
Posted by: Libra 75 | May 11, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
Isn’t it interesting that Hillary brags that she is supported overwhelmingly by those who didn’t finish college? When you see the poor spelling and grammar in many of these posts, it becomes clear which are from Hillary supporters. Do you want to be lumped in with under-educated voters who blindly follow Clinton’s pandering promises? If not, visit the Obama website to learn why the majority of Democrats are supporting him.
Posted by: Mark | May 11, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
staniam — “expose this illegal take over of our party” —- Um, can you explain this one please? I don’t think I’ve heard this angle yet.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
I’ve never voted for a republican in my life. And I won’t have to if Hillary is the nominee.
Posted by: Mack | May 11, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
JUDGE11 is correct. Over the last few months I’ve heard comments that would never be uttered by a Democrat. Good to remember who might be baiting you. When ABC starts actually doing some critical reporting of McCain, I think we will hear some familiar rhetoric and talking points.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Judge11 makes alot of sense
LETS ALL UNITE & STOP THIS BITTERNESS ….!!!!
Posted by: Libra 75 | May 11, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
I know it’s hard to face the fact that there are many Democrats out there that will not support Obama. Not everyone fell for the tag lines and feel good slogans with no substance behind them. A self proclaimed uniter with no history of having united anyone. Wake up.
Posted by: Mack | May 11, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Clear choice in November: Write in Senator Clinton on the ballot. Obama won’t be able to win the General election only with the African American vote and a few High school seniors or college freshmen.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
I was an Edwards supporter when this all started. I really am curious what, if anything, he’s looking for out of this election cycle.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
libre — Yeah, don’t forget to include my white parents, 73 and 76 years old. They voted for Obama in the Indiana primary.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
I won’t vote for McCain, but I won’t vote for Obama either. I will write senator Clinton 08 on the ballot. She will get more votes than Obama. McCain may win, but between him and Obama McCain is the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am
He is running on character and judgment, since he doesn’t have any real experience to speak of. He showed poor judgment and lack of character by attending that church for 20 years. In any other circumstance, I could really care less what someone believes, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else. He doesn’t get a pass in this case though because he is running for President of the United States.
Posted by: Mack | May 11, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
It is not the Republicans. The Democrats have been alienated by Obama and the hierarchy in the party. They wat to lose the White House on purpose. Write Hillay on the ballot
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
One thing is clear you can crow all you want but Obama does not have the support to become president elect in 2008 the Hillary people will not support him whether it is infighting or not it is a just cause! I am not a republican but I will support Mccain if it means preventing Obama from gettign in the White House this is serious stuff and a clear majority wimply wont allow him to be president!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
woodnickel
I am not a republican Obama will not win there is a majority of the democratic base that will not allow it period! I got Rep Shuler elected in my district and I will defeat Obama!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
Obama, Hillary or McCain, we will be in Iraq for a number of years no matter what anyone says. If McCain is President for 4 years, how will he ensure that we stay in Iraq for 100 years? That’s just plain stupid. If women haven’t lost the right to choose with Bush in office for 8 years, I don’t believe things will change radically in 4 years. I’d accept McCain for 4 years and pray that the Democrats move more towards the center and choose a moderate candidate next time around.
Posted by: Mack | May 11, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Obama’s supporters are notDemocrats, never have been. They have attacked and denigrated all Democrats achievements and the best democrat administration, they have attacked and denigrated the best president in at least 40 years, they have attacked and denigrated Senator Clinton a hard worker Democrat that has done a lot for all people in this country, especially for those Obama supporters. so you can say is between Obamaniacs and real Democrats.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
staniam — you claimed that Obama’s eventual nomination would be an “illegal takeover of the party.” You care to explain the illegal part to us?
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Mack
YOu are correct and Judge it seems you need to be disbarred! We will have Hillary or we will elect Mccain period Obama is wrong! nobody can elect Obama without the Hillary base no one!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Best president this country has had in 40 years is Jimmy Carter. Never heard any Democrat slam him. Last truly honest man we have had in the White House. Walks it just like he talks it.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Carter is honestand great ex-president, but he was not a good president. See you are not really a democrat.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Obama is unelectable, he ca not win without the blue collar voters, the rural voters, Hispanics, California, Florida, Michigan, PA, NY, etc.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Judge.
Go to the ABC board and see where it reads Clinton got 14mil votes. I will be over 15mil after the primaries are over.
In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if Hillary had more popular vote than Obama does at the end.
Thats quite a base of voters to anger.
For the first time in nominating history :
We are nominating the candidate who LOST all the major primaries.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 11, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
Highly educated Obama’s supporters playing nicknames, still Obama is unelectable. There is still a chance for the party to realize this. If not just write Hillary in on the ballot.McCain may win, but I am sur Hillary will have more votes than Obama even with 98% of the African American vote.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
He was a great president. He pretty much singlehandedly prevented a war between Israel and Egypt. They have a peace that still exists today. A guy doesn’t get much credit for PREVENTING war. Too bad. He refused to deal with terrorists (iran hostage situation) and got branded a weak. Reagan and Bush had no problem dealing with the likes of Saddam, Bin Laden and the Taliban… sold all of them weapons. Bush even had the CIA train the Taliban.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Hillary’s base: blue collar workers, middle class Americans, Hispanics, Rural workers, small town people.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Tomdavie
did you hear Terry Mccauliffe in his interviews on Thursday I think it was? He said there have been 34 million total votes cast and only 1 million in the caucues … which is where Obama got his lead.. which brings up more questions than answers!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
Carter also started us on the road to Energy independence in 1977, he was fostering alternative energy technologies and fuel efficiency standards for US automakers. He even had solar panels installed on the White House. Reagan gutted all of that. Now everyone talks big about an “Apollo Program” for energy independence… idiots! We had it and the Republicans scrapped it.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
D&**IT Judge!
I am not a republican and Obama will not be the nominee and if he is he will not be president because you cant do it without us… I am not a republican I am a centrist democrat if you cant handle it go away!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
tomdavie — explain to me how, according to you, Hillary can have so much support and so little money.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Libre
the primary season has been a fraud probably Kennedy etc knew of the rev write stuff back in the early primaries and used their connections to keep it under wraps
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
Obama doesn’t “share” similar views. He has followed Senator Clinton because he can not do anything himself. that is the reason he is repeating “change things” for 6 months.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
JUDGE11 — What is Bush’s greatest blunder in your book? (Besides INVADING THE WRONG COUNTRY… that’s too easy.)
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
judge11
apparently you dont know the issues either Mccain is as liberal as Obama and Clinton but Pres Clinton is right Obama is a roll of the dice we will not let Obama get the nomination its not about money! you cant convince anyone go away!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Libre
thats right… they think they can bring up the elitist arguments that Kerry,Gore,Dukkakis etc brought up and have some fanatacy of winning in Nov.. its not gonna happen!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
staniam — I’ll tell you why Hillary has votes but no money. It’s because Operation Chaos (rush limpbaugh’s scheme) has been propping Hillary up in her race. CBS reported that here in Indiana, exit polls showed that 11% of Hillary supporters admitted to being Republicans and also admitted that they had no intention of voting for a Democrat in the general election. 11% was enough to put Obama over the top in Indiana.
Posted by: wooden nickel | May 11, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
staniam Obama’s supporters are believing the feed from the media about “highly educated” but they don’t really see the demographics of who is voting for Obama since we found out about Wright and about his elitist comments about regular Americans.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
Judge11
your precious Obama has been in the senate since 2005 has he cast a vote to stop the war …NO! hhe has voted for all funding as I recall… bogus argument… bogus candidate… Kerry,Kennedy,et all have something planned and we will not put up with it!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
Wooden Nickel
there is no Operation chaos if that happened she wouldve lost the popular voter in Texas and Ohio I would argue it worked in NC because I live there and the momentum was goign in her direction the bottom line is we will not support Obama and you need us to get him elected… no discussion!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
wooden nickel you are contradicting Obama and statistics. republicans mede possible for Obama to take the lead through caucuses. statistics say that Republican converts voted for Obama, Obama says that Republican converts voted for him. So who is lying you or him?
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Judge11
by supporting Obama and putting Hillary supporters down.. there will be no deal we will not support Obama!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
Even if Hillary asks, I won’t support Obama. I wll write her name on the ballot as independent. McCain will be less risk that the unknown and devious Obama.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
staniam Yes is like they want to lose the WH on purppose
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
Libre
I have had enough of rich elitists jumping in and screwing up elections that make a difference because the arent affected one way or the other… the can handle Mccain too so they come off with this riteous indignation that is false to the core… we will come after people with income int he top 1 percent range we will I guarantee it you will not screw around with us anymore!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
staniam you are right. It looks like the left democrats want to stir the country into a three clas system: The rich, the intellectuals and the rest
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
staniam Kennedy’s envy of the Clinton’s is very dissapointing
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am
staniam You know Obama is spending millions in propaganda and well managed blogs and websites that feeds the American idol generation.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
staniam I never saw the media so biased and manipulated. There are no reports or information, every note is alredy directed with a purpose and digested for readers to believe whatever they want
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
one last comment. Never has been so much division and hatred as Obama has brought to the party. there is no uniting of the Democrat party, because real Democrats hve never been or will be behind Obama. Write Senator Clinton in on the ballot.
Posted by: libre | May 11, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
tomdavie: Obama supporters are not gloating but is hard to pay Hilary Clinton compliments when half of her supporters say that they will vote for MCCain or that Obama is not capable being president.
Posted by: Flower_Power! | May 11, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
From now until November, all you’ll see from ABC are pictures of McCain looking old and confused next to the confident, albeit racist, Obama. Guess which candidate the media favors?
Posted by: ken | May 11, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
namako
Obama will not be elected you will need Clinton for that and you arent going to get her and you will go away it would be better quitely or else!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
the media is wrong Obama will not be elected period!
Posted by: staniam | May 11, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
If Clinton insists on staying in until the convention there is no way Obama is president.
I think he is unelectable now.
By the way. The country isnt actually in recession . The economy is improving now.
Gas is way up, but the overall economy is improving.
If the media mistreats Clinton much longer, the republicans themselves will use it to rip the party in half.
They will start using the very tactics the Obama campaign and the liberal media used to get rid of Clinton in the first place.
The republicans are WELL aware of how furious the Clinton supporters are at the Obama freaks, and most of all the MEDIA.
They will find a way to keep us Clinton supporters furious at Obama.
Posted by: tomdavie | May 11, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
As a long-term democrat, I wholeheartedly will contribute to McCain’s victory and ensure Obama goes to the white house only as a visitor to sign the log book to meet with President John McCain…..
Posted by: dem | May 11, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
If you are judging peple on their knowing a person try the Clintons but then agaim they have killed off many who were associated with them and body guards many who could tell you the truth.Scaryyyyyyyy She is on trial for fraud I don’t understand why you think this couple are clean far from it.A vote for Obama is for change a vote for McCaim is for WAR more troops killer I for one want them home and taken care of,not swept under the table
Posted by: h | May 11, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
TOMDAVIE—You would vote for the Democratic candidate in good faith, b/c their ideals are more in line with yours. And there is no way that all of those feminists for HRC will vote for the guy that could potentially take away their right to choose.
Posted by: Nikole | May 11, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I will never and I mean NEVER vote for Obama. His wife would be the most disrespected first lady this country has ever seen.
Posted by: Barry | May 11, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
I’m not voting for Obama because of anything he’s done but because he hasn’t done anything. It’s that simple.
Posted by: GregH | May 11, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Ready999: I’m not a supporter of McCain, but I believe he would be preferable to Obama. I’ve never encountered a politician who is as ruthless and deceptive as Obama, and I’m including George Bush in that equation. Besides, I have a sense that McCain is not nearly as “conservative” as he is professing to be. As I’m sure you know, up until several years ago, he was very centrist. I think he is “catering to the base” so to speak, in order to garner their support. I think that once elected, he would move more towards the center, again. At any rate, I’d rather take a chance on him, than to risk having Obama as President. I simply could not take another 4 to 8 years of races cards and dirty politics.
Posted by: Susan | May 11, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Obama’s attitude toward the primaries (which are NOT over yet) indicates he should change his slogan to “Arrogance we can believe in”. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if we voters, not the party bosses, get to choose our next President?
Posted by: Rhys | May 11, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Obama says he will unite the country- he can’t. He can’t unite his own party. McCain is the only candidate that has worked to get legislation through compromise and working to unite people.Obama being the most liberal Senator will only work for the liberal agenda of higher taxes and punishing business and we will all suffer as a result.
Posted by: john s | May 11, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
How exactly did Obama block Michigan and Florida from having their votes count? Do you Hillary lovers ever stop with the nonsense that nobody is going to believe. Both states were given fair warning by the DNC not to move up their primaries. They did so anyway and got punished. How is this Obama’s fault? If you tell your child not to do something and they do it anyway do you go ahead and reward them for it? The race is over so it’s time to move on and talk about Obama v.s McCain in the fall.
Posted by: Tom | May 11, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Susan, you’re partly correct about ruthless politicians. Unfortunately, Bush’s extremism (about many things) is causing a backlash. In response to Bush’s right-wing theocracy, many folks are ready to stampede to the opposite extreme. Obama is a potential disaster for America, but Bush brought us to this point.
Posted by: Rhys | May 11, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Florida and Michigan voters can thank their own states for not allowing their votes to count. I don’t see what’s so hard for some of you to understand. Both states were told not to do it and they went and did it anyway. This is their punishment for being stupid.
Posted by: Tom | May 11, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
No, Obama did not disenfranchise Michigan and Florida voters… the party bosses did, because they wanted to steer the “election” toward THEIR choices, not ours. Obama was merely along for the ride. “Punishing” voters by taking away their votes is something which should NEVER happen in America. The founding fathers of this country must be spinning in their graves like lathes.
Posted by: Rhys | May 11, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Rhys: We are in agreement.
Tom: Give it up. It is widely known that the apparatus was already in effect which could have provided for a revote in Michigan and Florida, and it was Obama and his lawyers who stood in the way. No offense, but your propaganda only convinces Obama supporters and no one else.
Posted by: Susan | May 11, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Susan show one piece of proof that Obama and his lawyers have blocked a revote in Florida and Michigan. Show some evidence instead of something you most likely heard from one of Hillary’s supporters. The fact of the matter is that it has been said that to run primaries again on those states would cost millions of dollars. Who should foot the bill for that? Open up your little pocketbook first Susan and then maybe the rest of us will follow suit.
Posted by: Tom | May 11, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Nancy Pelosi has indicated she would support changing this entire nominating process, and I hope SOMEONE does. The way it is being handled now is absurd and undemocratic. Every state should have a BINDING primary (no caucuses) and then the convention circuses would become irrelevant. Why can most states conduct a primary election and then a general election while this cannot currently be done on a nationwide level? All the argument about “super delegates” should be moot; there should be no such thing as a “super delegate”! LET US ALL VOTE and then MAKE IT COUNT!
Posted by: Rhys | May 11, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Obama is against any feasible way of lowering energy prices for the people. Obama is against drilling for new oil, building new refineries and nuclear energy. In fact Obama’s tactic of charging higher taxes to oil companies will actually make oil prices go higher. That’s what happened in the 70s when Carter tried the same thing and people had to wait in long lines at the gas stations to get the little oil there was since all the oil went bye bye to other Nations. Instead of using the environmentally safe ways of drilling for oil here, Obama would rather we buy the oil from the Middle East and use the environmentally unsafe way of shipping it over the oceans. Shipping oil over the ocean is subject to oil spills which have already caused great harm to the environment. That is what Obama is for. Just wonder if Obama is against any feasible and environmentally safer way of getting energy at lower cost here and prefers getting oil from the Middle East because he is in the pocket of OPEC? Just wondering.
Posted by: Sam | May 11, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Judge11 no you’re not lying. Hillary is behind so now it’s an issue. Hillary signed a piece of paper stating she would support the DNC’s decision regarding Mich and Florida if they indeed moved up their primaries. Now that she’s about to lose she’s playing the oh my god the poor voters of those states card.
Posted by: Tom | May 11, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
You are all missing the biggest point of all. It is Dean and the party leadership that is supposed to hold the party together. Just like Bush will take the blame for his adminstration, so will Dean have to take his.
I want new party leadership after this election and I mean clean house! Any change on the democratic platform takes years to produce along with a contituancy. This radical left of the party has tried to change the party too much, too fast.
You just can’t throw out the old and bring in the new. It is a process that crosses demographics and generations. And that is exactly what has ocurred during this primary, a clash of demographics and generations.
Posted by: Average Joe | May 11, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Obama didnt care about Michigan and Florida because there were no DELEGATES at stake.
He didnt care about the voters. He yanked his name off the ballot so he wouldnt LOOK BAD.
Just like he wont campaign in West Virginia and Kentucky BECAUSE HE WILL LOOK BAD.
No sir. Goof Obama camps out in FRIENDLY OREGON.
He thinks the people in oregon are ok, but west virginia and kentucky arent worth his time.
This is the GOOF candidate you got folks.
He could care less about Michigan, Florida, West Virginia, and Kentucky.
Posted by: snortle | May 11, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Hillary’s supporters will not vote for Obama in GE. He thinks he can win in MIchigan and Florida after ignoring their vote count in the primary. He’s very arrogant and think voters will forget his action. He is stealing the nomination from Hillary. She should run as independent.
Posted by: stephanie | May 11, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
I’ve always been a strong democrat, but if it comes down to Obama vs McCain, I’m voting for McCain.
Posted by: Steve | May 11, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Susan “And finally, I, like millions of Americans, do hold Obama responsible for the debacle in Michigan and Florida”
how come?????
Susan if Hilary was in the lead .. would this have been brought up ?? .. you haven’t answered me????
Posted by: AUTHENTIC JUDGE11 | May 11, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
As usual, liberals use name calling to put down anyone who disagrees with them instead of addressing the issues. Obama’s attendance at a church for twenty years that believes in James Cone’s Marxist black liberation theology is of concern as to Obama’s beliefs economic beliefs. Does Obama believe in a State run communist type economy? Many of Obama’s speeches point in that direction and so does his wife’s, Michelle. By the way, true liberalism = JFK in my opinion, which I support.
Posted by: Sam | May 11, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
This is funny. The Obama haters accuse Obama of not being electable, and then they turn around and accuse him of doing what it takes to win against Clinton. It looks to me like he is pretty good at winning campaigns. Why would we want to assume that the candidate who is actually losing her current campaign is somehow more “electable?”
Posted by: jock59801 | May 11, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Yes, Authentic Judge11, if Hillary was in the lead, and Obama had won Michigan and Florida, then the issue of Michigan and Florida would no doubt be brought up — by Obama.
You know, Judge, after what happened to us in 2000 when the Republicans stole the election by disenfranchising voters in Florida, I can’t believe that this is even an issue. I can’t believe that all Democrats are not united in an effort to make sure that the votes are counted in both states. This kind of exclusionary, dog eat dog politics may be OK with Karl Rove, and now with Obama supporters, but it is very distasteful and shameful for the rest of us.
Posted by: Susan | May 11, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
quote from Bill Clinton “those that say u can’t win are the ones that are afraid you will win” …….
Posted by: AUTHENTIC JUDGE11 | May 11, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Hillary is the one who is and has dissmissed large segments of the population. Every time she lost a state she said, “Oh, it’s just a caucus”, “Oh, that’s just the black vote”, “Oh, that’s a red state”, “Oh, that’s a small state”. She has said again and again that every state Obama wins doesn’t matter, that small states don’t matter, and African American votes don’t matter.
Posted by: Joan | May 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
I am a registered independent and have been leaning toward the Democrats because I believe this country does need a change in leadership. We have sold our souls to fuel countries and have not had the benefit of relief in fossil fuel costs. We’ve neglected our old, young, poor and sick while giving tax breaks to the super rich. McCain is so in step with Bush we won’t know that a new president was elected if he wins. I will vote Democrat in November and pray that the rich will pay the taxes they can afford and our economy begins a well needed rebound.
Posted by: denice | May 11, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
It’s sad to think that American’s in 2008 would not vote for a president because he is black, South Africa had a black president for goodness sake, goes to show how far behind we are as a people, a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush Politics, and look where that has gotten us, i don’t care if a Blue Transvestite is the nominee, I will vote Democrat…any sensible working person would…….
Posted by: Brien | May 11, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Libre,
That’s right.
Ready for “CHANGE” he said change the WH.
Change into liberal, rich people run the country.
Left the poor,uneducated,rural,blue collar behind.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
I learn so much here!
Like 92% of Obama voters are black!
And McCain is the same as Hillary, so let’s vote for him!
And Saddam Hussein isn’t dead, he’s running for president!
And Obama, some loser, gets to choose which states vote for him, and he doesn’t follow the rules!
And I also heard that if Obama gets elected, too many people would be going to college and really mess up our fun here and in Washington!
Thanks for all the great INFO!
And a special shout-out to
OPERATION CHAOS, alive and well and getting all the attention they deserve.
Posted by: Gina | May 11, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
barack obama is NOT the messiah. he’s just a politician, folks. put down the kool-aid, and get behind hillary before it’s too late and john mccain wins in november!
Posted by: jl | May 12, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Hillary is ‘Red’ in ‘Blue’ clothing. She thinks it’s her TURN. She thinks it’s her God giving right to be the Dem nominee and you all fell right in line behind her like trained sheep.
It’s Americans’ choice to make, and we choose Obama. Four years of Clinton would be a nightmare for our country. NO MORE CLINTONS!
Posted by: C2 | May 12, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Vote for Hillary before it’s too late, LOL….It is too late!!! It’s over by a long shot….It’s amazing how she has scammed her voters into thinking she’s still in it, so she can pay of her 20 million dollar debt with theit hard earned money…..She has proven that a fool and his money are soon parted……
Posted by: Brien | May 14, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am