Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton’s Tears from Obama’s Church’s Pulpit
Father Michael Pfleger, a fiery liberal social activist and a white reverend at an African-American church — St. Sabina’s Catholic Church on the South Side of Chicago — is a longtime friend and associate of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, having known him since the presidential hopeful was a community activist. In September, the Obama campaign brought Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.
Their relationship spans decades. Pfleger has given money to Obama’s campaigns and Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs at St. Sabina’s, according to the Chicago Tribune.
A new Youtube video making the rounds shows Pfleger speaking at Obama’s church, Trinity United Church of Christ, just last Sunday, mocking Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, for having cried in New Hampshire, suggesting that she wept because she thought as a white person and wife of a former president she was entitled to the presidency.
Watch HERE.
In response to the sermon, Obama issued a statement saying: “As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.”
This is what Obama was responding to: After being introduced by Obama’s church’s new pastor — Rev. Otis Moss — Rev. Pfleger talks about the importance of taking on "white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head."
"Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don’t believe it was put on," Pfleger says from the pulpit. "I really believe that she just always thought, ‘This is mine! I’m Bill’s wife, I’m white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.’ And then out of nowhere came, ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama,’ and she said, ‘Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I’m white! I’m entitled! There’s a black man stealing my show!’
Pfleger then mocks her crying, much to delight of the crowd, many of whom stand up and applaud.
"She wasn’t the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying!" Pfleger says to laughter.
The tape, which just shows this one controversial part of Pfleger’s sermon, then cuts to Moss thanking Pfleger: "We thank God for the message, we thank God for the messenger, we thank God for Father Michael Pfleger," Moss says.
The New York Times recently described Father Pfleger as having "long worked with South Side political leaders to reduce crime and improve the community. But he has drawn fire from some quarters for defending the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and inviting him to speak at his church."
- jpt
UPDATE: Pfleger appears to have been scrubbed from the Obama campaign’s page that features the testimony of faith leaders, but you can see the cached version HERE.
UPDATE II: Father Pfleger writes to say, "I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them."
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Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
That’s one crazy church for a guy to attend who wants to run for president as the candidate of unity.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 29, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
McCain is going to eat Obama’s lunch. It is NOT too late at all to pick Hillary Clinton as our democratic nominee!!!!!!
Hillary 08!
Yes We Can Yes We Can
Posted by: kurt | May 29, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
So It Begins.
A McCain landslide in November.
Posted by: toby | May 29, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
If Obama is the nominee you might as well as give the presidency to McCain without all the hasles of campaigning since it will be worthless with Obama.
Posted by: Bill | May 29, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
And the hits just keep on coming! Doesn’t seem to matter how many crazy people Obama knows, people just seem oblivious. Again, his associates supporters can say and do whatever, and it doesn’t seem to make a difference to his followers. The rest of us mortals are judged by the people we know and company we keep over our lifetime, and I just don’t understand why no one is concerned that Sen. Obama and his Band of Eccentrics wants to be President of the United States. If this was HIllary’s or McCain’s associate, we would be hearing about it for weeks, but I bet it barely gets mentioned on cable news tonight.
Posted by: dwc | May 29, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
This is the Obama statement I’m waiting for:
As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in my wife Michelle’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.”
Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Get over it people. everyone knows Hillary thinks that the presidency belongs to her, it wasnt until she realized that she had to actually work for us and not take us for granted that she became so called “one of the ordinary folks”. She is just mad that with all the money that she spent, the people in her campaign didnt do the delegate math. as for the father P. he’s done alot of good things in his life and has fought for equality in the south side of chicago. Since none of you have actually walked in his shoes and seen the things he has, dont judge him. He’s been around along time and has earned the right to be critical and call things as he’s seen them. he’s devoted his life to God, doesnt that mean anything anymore?
Posted by: lovy | May 29, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Please read the history of the world! Ayatolah Khomeini wanted to bring change to Iran. Please read all the crimes and destructions that has happened to that country since then. This is for all who are asking for a change, and hoping that “OBAMA” can deliver it!!!
Posted by: ED | May 29, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Radical Left-Wing Priest Michael Pfleger supports Radical Left-Wing Pastor Jeremiah Wright.
Enough said.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Thanks for the link to the cache version of the website. It’s so sneaky of them to remove his name without tell people or saying that the page was recently updated (unless I missed that)
Posted by: Tyrone | May 29, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
For those who want more: Radical Left-Wing Priest Michael Pfleger supports Radical Left-Wing Pastor Jeremiah Wright, who supports Radical Left-Wing Rookie U.S. Senator Obama, who sponsored the Global Poverty Act, a socialist attempt to redistribue $845 billion dollars of America’s wealth to Africa and third world countries.
Radical left-wingers are going all out to help Obama bring socialist change to America, which is why a white radical left-wing priest is casting stones in a Black Liberation Theology church.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
These are the black activists who turned their backs to Martin Luther King. THese are the very kind of people who MLK was fighting against in his community.
Sad and shameful that Barack Obama was led by these kind of preachers.
The blind are leading the blind.
Posted by: trustthesky | May 29, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Can you give the church videos a rest, please? Unless you plan to run video excerpts from “interesting” religious leaders on the right such as Hagee and Parsley, who had endorsed John McCain and whose support McCain sought, this seems pretty one-sided.
It’s a strain, I’m sure, but maybe we can focus a bit of attention on things affecting this country–the war in Iraq, the faltering economy, for example. Just a thought.
Posted by: mary | May 29, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
This guy is frightening! Does anyone really believe that Obama hangs around people like this creep and like Rev. Wright and Tony Rezko… and he has different beliefs than them. Why would he surround himself with people like this if they did not share common ideas. There are more and more videos like this on the way. How many times will they have to show these sleazy friends of Obama’s before people see that Obama is one of them?
Now is your chance… Vote Hillary ’08 before it’s too late!
Posted by: Josh | May 29, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
MSNBC? HAHAHAHAHA. Oh my God, everybody knows thats just a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign.
Here’s a quarter, buy a clue.
Posted by: trustthesky | May 29, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Thank God for Hillary!
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
I love it when ( unfortunately, once in a blue moon) ABC shows the real Obama and his cult gets mad and says they don’t like this blog anymore. They can’t stand to see the truth about Obama. I LOVE IT, LOVE, LOVE LOVE IT!!!
Posted by: Janson | May 29, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
“This is the Obama statement I’m waiting for:
As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in my wife Michelle’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.””
LOL @ Mesquite, thats a good one
Posted by: ohboy | May 29, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
If Obama was to get the nomination who do you think would be the VP?
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
James Meeks
Tony Rezko
William Ayers
Father Michael Pfleger
Posted by: CA | May 29, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Hillary cried in NH for the women vote. (Period).
Plain and Simple.
She tried to cry again b/f the Indiana and North Carolina primary over her daughter… it didn’t work.
Posted by: Vanessa | May 29, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Obama’s other buddy Tony Rezko – 1:15 PM CDT, May 29, 2008
LAS VEGAS – A felony arrest warrant has been issued for indicted political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, on charges he hasn’t repaid more than $800,000 in gambling debts to three Las Vegas Strip casinos.
Rezko, 52, who raised thousands of dollars for Sen. Barack Obama and Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, is charged with using his clout with Blagojevich’s administration to get a $1.5 million bribe from a contractor and pressure kickbacks out of money management firms wanting to do business with a $40 billion state pension fund.
Posted by: The Malibu Kid | May 29, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
it just doesn’t seem to have quite the punch when it is a white guy doing it.
Posted by: Louis | May 29, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Why does Obama and McCain have to be responsible for everything any of their supporters or pastors say?
Obama should NOT be responsible for something that this Catholic Priest has said.
Posted by: Stacey | May 29, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Obama folks cry out:
“Oh please don’t show us or tell us about Obama’s spiritual guides and influences.
Please don’t point out any negatives.
We have “hope”, he is the chosen one.
Please don’t show us anything that might “change” our worshipping of him.
Please just show us and tell us what we want to hear, like other media folks do.
Please don’t try to practice real journalism, that is simply not fair!”
If an Obama supporter’s utterances fall on deaf ears, could one assume that they never said anything?
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Go Hillary…….Yes you can……..
Posted by: Barb | May 29, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Obama is the biggest creep of them all because he denies his beliefs… well kind of…”Typical White person”, “Cling to guns, religion and antipathy toward people who are not like them” “get me more white people”… oh that last one was his wife.
Posted by: Joe | May 29, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
I guess Pfleger had to pay Obama back for all those grants. Obama has quite the circle around him. Is this what Obama means by unity? He is really out of touch. And Pfleger redefines what it is to be a Catholic priest.
Not the way I plan to spend a Sunday morning. Those are interesting family values, Obama supporters.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
this is a slippery slope we have entered where everyone you know adn everything they say can be used against you
remember if it can be used against obama, and mccain, then hillary is not invulnerable to the attacks
this obviously shouldnt be seen as part of obama, but it will be unfortunately and i must say it doesnt help him.
Posted by: bhrandon | May 29, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Obama will be known by the company he keeps. He certainly does not hang out with a group of people known for unity and peace. A vote for Obama is a vote against the American way of life.
Posted by: dixiecharams | May 29, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
I’m sorry – is there anyone who HASN’T mocked Hillary’s tears? What will you guys do when Hillary is out?
Posted by: Steve | May 29, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
@ Stacey
If Obama should not be held responsible for those who he hangs around then why does Obama keep taunting McCain for hanging around President Bush?
Maybe because he his a lying hypocrite? Hmmm!?!?
Posted by: sarahNJ | May 29, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Just when did Obama issue this statement? And why is it if his campaign invited the guy to speak, wouldn’t he have the slightest clue of the content of the sermon? Is he that stupid or does he think WE are? And by the way, for some guy who spent 20 years at this church, for him to claim that he essentially wasn’t ever there is outrageous. I mean, it’s not like he didn’t live in Chicago so what was he doing every Sunday? This is just ridiculous and anyone who wants to bury his head in the sand like some stupid ostrich is more pathetic than words can express. And the larger question is, what if were not running for president, would he still denounce these statements? I don’t think he would or at least he never did.
Posted by: druggstohr | May 29, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? HILLARY DOES BELIEVE SHE IS ENTITLED TO THE WHITE HOUSE!
Posted by: agbi | May 29, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I hope when Michelle is shedding her tears because the GE slipped away someone will make a video just like that say damn it’s McCain, where did all the white votes go.
Posted by: SJ | May 29, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
This is to much all you jerks thinking Hilly is for you.It is now SAD not funny anymore ……..His words are true YOU OWE ME THIS<<<<<<<<<<<<He has hit the nail on the heard ,I am from NH and they really do think it was staged.The rally coming up for Fl and Mi is also staged by the Clintons…
Like she is saying it isn't bull —-
Posted by: Honest | May 29, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Unbelievable. Where do they find these creepy guys wearing priest’s outfits?
Anyone who can still support Obama after this may just want to check in for rehab. Pelosi and Reid are in such hot water now they may as well pour the oregano on their own stew.
Unbelievable…
Posted by: len | May 29, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Obama doesn’t need this! He stands for hope and change! Where’s the Obama I used to know?
I’m a sad Obamabot
Posted by: LOLapalooza | May 29, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Shocker. More hate being preached at Barry Obama’s hate-church.
Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Obama responded: “As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.” Isn’t this the same thing he said about Rev. Wright’s comments?
Posted by: Susan | May 29, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
What about mccains jew hateing preachers. You people need to look in the mirror!
Posted by: joe | May 29, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Ah, SaraNJ, there’s a BIG difference.
Bush is THE PRESIDENT. It’s the President’s POLICIES that McCain is campaigning on. FAILED POLICIES that affect the entire nation!
Get the difference now?
Posted by: Mary, MI | May 29, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
I love this post!! Also, CNN has a great article about Obama’s creepy Chicago politics, check it out.
Posted by: Bam | May 29, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
**** ******
LOTS OF WHITE PEOPLE IN THAT CHURCH ,
I THOUGHT THE PUNDITS WAS SAYING IT WAS A RACIST CHURCH, FAR FROM IT .
i JUST WANT GOOD HEALTHCARE , EDUCATION , GOOD JOBS .. ETC …
WHAT DOES ALL THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THAT AGAIN.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE , WAKE ME UP WHEN REAL ISSUES ARE BEING DISCUSS.
Posted by: tabloid-world | May 29, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Funny
Obama keeps saying he’s a uniter, what and who has been united since his campaign stated? Democrat against Democrat…
Funny
Obama supporters fear racism will keep obama from getting elected, but most if not all of the racism in this campaign has come from his supporters, first Wright and now Pfleger…
Just another fake politician.
Posted by: Steve | May 29, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
None of us are supposed to be bothered or surprised at any of the things that go on in these churches where Obama found his faith. What a joke!
Posted by: Susan | May 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
How is Obama, his wife, their pastor and their friends all being racist not an important issue?
Must just be Obama’s paid bloggers trying to play political games by saying that a racist president is not a big issue.
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Barack Obama has done more to bring the people of America together than any presidential candidate since JFK. The Clinton supporters here, who are so divisive and plain mean, just reflect what she has brought to the people of this country.
Posted by: robby10001 | May 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
This story is NOWHERE to be found on Obama central MSNBC. Big Shocker! I am a little surprised that ABC is covering it.
Posted by: cd | May 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
It looks to me like Obama has a race-driven agenda, but he keeps saying he doesn’t so he can get elected. But his lifestyle begs to differ.
Posted by: Sherry | May 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Is minister Pfleger right?
Maybe what this man is saying is just plain correct…..Sometimes it’s hard to swallow the truth…..
IS HE RIGHT? That’s the question…
Who on this post is brave enough to honestly answer that question…..IS HE RIGHT?
Posted by: Shalom | May 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Have to agree with HoosierSue and mesquito. Obama sure keeps some creepy company, some angry-at-white-people company for someone who wants to be President of ALL of us.
Posted by: Charlie35 | May 29, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
White Catholic Priest mocks Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Stacey | May 29, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
You know: Sen. Obama never mocked Sen. Clinton. He is not responsible for what comes from that pulpit. If you parked yourself in living rooms of HRC supporters or in McCain’s Pastor Hagge’s church and the like you’d see things that aren’t that great.
In this post you unfairly try to link this to the Obama campaign and the campaign is not responsible for what comes from the church. It’s unfair and shoddy of you IMO. You probably will never see this post but if you think you are holding Obama accountable; you’re not. You ARE perpetuating a falsehood in the sense that you are ascribling tactics others use to the campaign which is an extension of the man.
You do this a lot.
Guilt by association is wrong. And this is what this fundamentally is IMO.
There are serious issues to discuss. For example; McCain’s subprime mess w/Phil Gramm has YET to make a headline from you. I can understand the pressure to want to get a drudge link; but it brings down the discourse like what happened to HRC in SD.
Posted by: Rhoda | May 29, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Is he right? Who on this post is brave enough to answer that question?
Is minister Pfleger correct?
Posted by: Shalom | May 29, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
If you are unsure about the character of a person and just not sure, but something doesn’t seem right take a look at the company he keeps and who he chooses to spend his time with. I think if we pretend this is not important then we will have McCain. It is really up to you.
Posted by: unstoppable 08 | May 29, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
The Good Father Pfleger has been ranting about this stuff for years… he even suggested “snuffing out” a local gun merchant. But as per susual, once Pfleger became politically inconvenient, he gets thrown under the bus like Wright.
He used all of these socially acive priests and pastors to get ahead in Chicago politics… now he’s discarding them (as he should have from the beginning)… yup, Change we can believe in… yeah right!
Posted by: smartprimate | May 29, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Wow! Attacking a white Catholic priest now! We’ll see how that one plays in Pennsylvania!
Posted by: Mike | May 29, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
OBAMA IS A FRAUD!!!!
YET ANOTHER Radical – Racist – Questionable “Friend” – Obama is a DISGRACE – this is a Presidential Candidate?????????
Wake Up America – ALL America – we need a President of the USA!!!
KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY – MILLIONS VOTE FOR YOU – otherwise fraud/obama would of already won – he has NOT!
Posted by: Molly | May 29, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
robby 10001 – Obama has done absolutely nothing except hide who he really is.
Posted by: cd | May 29, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Sen. Obama is the biggest phoney baloney to hit the political scene since Gary Hart. I can’t believe that he directed funds to that church as a state legislature. It will be an embarrassment to have such a weak person nominated by the DNC. And, if he goes to Iraq, and changes his rhetoric for pulling out immediately, doesn’t that signal a weak mind and weak judgment?
Posted by: bluebird | May 29, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Obama has been hanging around Michael Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright for decades?
What other close radical left-wing friends that Obama has that we don’t know yet about?
And why are they so close friends?
Is it because Obama shares Michael Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright’s radical left-wing views?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Hillary’s tears were joke. She did it for the camera and most everyone with a brain knows it. Hillary supporters are jumping at anything they think can bring Obama down. It’s over Hillary, go home!!
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The Pennsylvanians will think this priest is a wacko!! The word around Chicago is that the Cardinal has been trying to get rid of this guy. He also honored Rev. Wright in the last month or so at St. Sabina’s.
Posted by: countallthevotes | May 29, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Obama is not Presidential material.
He doensn’t even understand Auschwitz’s place in history.
There are so many things this guy is attached to, DEEPLY, because THAT’S CHICAGO POLITICS, but he actually BELIEVES this crap…
“I attended my church for TWENTY YEARS, but I never INHALED!”
Hillary 08
Posted by: destardi | May 29, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Pfleger is bought and bossed by Obama. That is why this is a problem. Revoke their not for profit status at Trinity, and kick Pfleger out of the Catholic Church, for he is a disgrace. He can discuss white entitlement, but he cannot claim Hillary shares such sentiments. Pfleger is a disgrace, Obama is a disgrace, and Wright is a disgrace. Obama supporters are also a disgrace.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/looking-forward-to-a-barack-presidency/
Thank you, No Quarter, for breaking this story.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Can we please direct our collective energy toward solving real issues in people’s lives, rather than always looking for ways to destroy and divide us? Why doesn’t ABC use its investigative prowess to find out why our schools hire such incompetent teachers? Why teh government can’t protect its citizens from coporate creed and corruption? That’s the news that most people are interested in, not some crazy “preacher” from the south side of wherever!! Let’s ALL get a life!!
Posted by: ez1bimer | May 29, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
ABC-this is really your TOP STORY….The media really needs to get a life……THIS IS INSANE AGAIN.This is what you call NEWS….no one can possibly be responsible for every comment made by someone’s preacher or even an associate. THIS IS CRAZY…
Posted by: KIM | May 29, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
well thanks to our wonderful news media, the frenzie starts again…totally riduculous.
Posted by: newvoter | May 29, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
i dont see how this makes obama a racist
Posted by: bhrandon | May 29, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Hillary’s tears were joke. She did it for the camera and most everyone with a brain knows it. Hillary supporters are jumping at anything they think can bring Obama down. It’s over Hillary, go home!!
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008 4:33:51 PM
CASE IN POINT, Obama supporter above…
Where do you people get your “facts”?
Hillary didn’t HAVE tears rolling down her eyes, or even welling in them…
It was a human moment, but their were NO tears….watch the video, and GET informed! Bushbot2.0
Posted by: destardi | May 29, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Funny
Obama keeps saying he’s a uniter, what and who has been united since his campaign stated? Democrat against Democrat…
Funny
Obama supporters fear racism will keep obama from getting elected, but most if not all of the racism in this campaign has come from his supporters, first Wright and now Pfleger…
Just another fake politician.
Shalom- is he right? No! He’s not, he’s absolutely wrong.
Posted by: Steve | May 29, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Damn. Everytime another old associate of Obama turns up, it’s another world- class hater, terrorist, or con-man.
Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
How is Obama, his wife, their pastor and their friends all being racist not an important issue?
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008 4:30:17 PM
=======================================
Hello!!! MCFLY,
How could Barack be racist! when his mother is WHITE.. and some of the people involve are WHITE.
Like someone just said , what does this have to do with the ISSUES.
All this is sideshows diverting focus on the real kitchen table problems people have.
Posted by: mindy34 | May 29, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Here more information about Pfleger :
Pfleger’s name became more widely recognizable two years ago when Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich appointed a Farrakhan aide to serve on a hate-crimes commission. When the appointee, Sister Claudette, refused to denounce Farrakhan’s racist and anti-Semitic remarks, three Jewish members on the commission resigned — a situation that prompted Pfleger to respond, “good riddance.”
Posted by: antoine1118 | May 29, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
So, for all of you who suggest that this priest’s views MUST be Obama’s, then I guess it is fair to say that Senator McCain believes everything that Rev. Hagee believes? I mean, the connection between Obama and Father Pfleger is approximate to that between McCain and Hagee.
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 29, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
This isn’t even Obama’s preacher. Why is Obama responsible for what this priest has said?
I guess we are still in SILLY SEASON.
Posted by: Stacey | May 29, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Nat, if you take an honest look at black culture, are you certain things will be any different? If we expect to advance as a Nation, then it really ought to be about how we can once and for all advance together.
Just sayin.
Posted by: Joel | May 29, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Shalom
He is not right. The whole thing is utterly ridiculous. I do not see other ethnic groups running around blaming white people for everything wrong that has happened to them. I have many, many african american friends and they also think this is disgusting, any responsible person does.
Posted by: cd | May 29, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
The White House is going to become a rockin’ place where all the ministers get off on making fun of people if Obama gets in.
Posted by: susan | May 29, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Funny how all the crazy Obama supporters call Obama’s racist pastor and racist friends non issues. IT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE OF THE ELECTION!!!!
OBAMA IS A RACIST!!!!
Posted by: JOEL | May 29, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Posted by: bhrandon | May 29, 2008 4:35:21 PM
Too bad he didn’t do it in the very begining when his campaign “leaked” a memo insinuating and planting thoughts that bill and hillary racists…
He didn’t stand up back in January, and say “BILL AND HILLARY ARE NOT RACISTS!” after all the work they’ve done for all people, and specifically african americans.
OBAMA FAILED TO LEAD FROM DAY ONE in his campaign!
This dems’ going republican if obama gets it.
Posted by: destardi | May 29, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
If they were wearing white sheets and hoods… people would see Obama and his church for what it is…
Im voting NO to racism… and by that i mean OBAMA.
Posted by: Steve from Dallas | May 29, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
And again we have some lunatic preacher friend of Obama’s spouting off at the mouth. Apparently the Obama people enjoyed his sickening sermon of hate. Shameful and damaging to the party the Obama folks desperately need to unite behind their novice candidate. News Flash…it ain’t never gonna happen!
Bruised feelings? I think not. Try BURNED BRIDGES!
Hillary, the only decent choice in ’08 with or without the Democratic Party!
Posted by: Disgusted Dem | May 29, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Sen Obama sounds more like every day. He didn’t know about him, he didn’t know about this, know that he finally knows, he renounces. What a joke. How could he not know. Total phoney.
Posted by: bluebird | May 29, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
You people may want to google this minister and see exactly who and what he stands for…he has done a lot of good in the communities he serves. GET EDUCATED..
Posted by: newthought | May 29, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
For over 200,000 in grants well why not, sell your soul to Obama, with that kind of windfall Obama must of been sent from heaven.
$225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs and Pfleger from just Obama alone now is that not sweet.
Posted by: SJ | May 29, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Where do you people get the idea that Hillary believes she is entitled to the White House? She has never said that, projected that – just political enemies who are trying to destroy her – such as Obama, the liar. He is a phony.
Posted by: Northstar | May 29, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Well, if she plans to steal this election I will not be voting. Her actions are not democratic. It is unfair to not count the caucus states in her popular vote argument as well as discredit the uncommitted votes in MI. This is double speak and she does not care about disenfranchising voters. She only cares about her own votes and states she has won. That is not the definition of a democracy. I am infuriated with Hillary and her supporters. She is a hypocrite because her campaign manager Ickes created the rules for the primaries and voted to strip MI and FL of their delegates. This is overlook by her supporters. From the beginning, Hillary and her supporters have been trying to stop the democratic process by crowning her the presumptive nominee before any of our voices was heard. Her supporters did not have a problem with the super delegates when over 200 endorsed Hillary prior to the primaries. Her supporters did not have a problem when Hillary agreed to the MI and Fl terms and her statement that the she would receive the nomination by Feb. 5. This double talk of Hillary and her supporters are hypocritical. They have a sense of entitlement as though their voices are more important than the rest of us. Now their candidate is losing they are crying wolf. This is why we need to turn the page from people who believe they are entitled to something. Her supporters are mistaken that if Hillary steals this election people will just vote for her. You are wrong. I and others will not vote. I hope her supporters are enough for her to win the election. You have successfully divided the party with your gutter tactics.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 29, 2008 4:36:48 PM
I don’t know; did McCain funnel 225,000 to Hagee’s church?
Cuz Obama did for Pfleger.
Posted by: destardi | May 29, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
This is all taking place in Obama’s church where Obama sat for 20 years and never heard any of these types of things. What good fortune for Obama to never have been in attendance when this seems to be so commonplace.
Posted by: susan | May 29, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
I wonder if this is one of his crazy “white” uncles….lol
Posted by: J | May 29, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
I hate to say it. I was an Obama supporter, but I think he’s toast. You can’t be intertwined with people like this. It’s sad, he’s so talented and inspired so many but the reality is he just became unelectable.
Posted by: jeremy | May 29, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Barack Obama has done more to bring the people of America together than any presidential candidate since JFK.
please explain how when 50% of dems say they wont vote for him, let alone the country?
Posted by: joseph | May 29, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
WHO HAVE OBAMA AND HIS FRIENDS UNITED!??!!
People keep saying he’s a uniter, where is the evidence?
Posted by: STEVE | May 29, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
@ mindy
Obviously you have not read Obama’s book.
Hmmm let’s see here, what were his exact words:
“I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I
began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”
- Obama’s racist book “Dreams from My Father”
“I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother race”
- Obama’s racist book “Dreams from My Father”
“I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, the son of
Africa, that I’d packed all the I sought in myself”
- Obama’s racist book “Dreams from My Father”
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Pfleger has not done a lot of good. In fact, he has received money from Daley, Axelrod, Giannoulias and other Obama backers. Pfleger is a corrupt Chicago machine pol. who acts as if he is a priest. Just investigate where all the money for Saint Sabina Church comes from.
Good job, Jake. This is Obama’s close friend. In fact, Pfleger is the one who served as intermediary between Wright and Obama after Obama disavowed Wright for political reasons.
Pfleger=Wright=Obama=unelectable.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
You Obama folks can keep saying that this is a non-story; but if this is the case why the the Obama campaign take him name off of the website immediately!! If they recognize that this is a GOOD man, then why not stand by him? Why are they now rejecting his endorsement? And soon, theh may issue a statement on this.
Posted by: Tyrone | May 29, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I still remember when good old Bill pardoned the Puerto Rican terrorists on his last day in office.
Why? Because he knew that one and a half million people in New York were Puerto Rican and she was going to run for Senate and President. Way to go Puerto Rico, support your terrorist friends. Don’t you know that the Clinton’s would sell Chelsea for a vote and never look back. I am ashamed of them and am glad that the country is seeing them as they really are. Too bad Puerto Rico does not. Too bad that Puerto Rico would vote against Obama because of the color of his skin. Let’s call it what it is. Get out Hillary! Go back to your home in New York that Terry McAuffie bought for you and enjoy the Lincoln bedroom antiques you stole from the White House.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Dear Lake…I have read all of Obama’s books and found nothing but honestly in them…nothing racist. I guess it depends what you read into your own racism..
Posted by: cindyct | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
How much money did Rev Wright get again? Seems like Obama just love to buy out these preachers knowing fully well their sermons will reach the people who votes he wants to get.
Seems like Obama has a taste for a special type of preacher and sermon I really wonder why.
Posted by: SJ | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
can we dig up the clintons preacher for that scandal of his… wasnt he just convicted a few months ago?
i think politicians are going to stop going to church
Posted by: bhrandon | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
I am a Democrat but will vote for John McClain in November. We surely don’t need this trash in the White House
Posted by: betsy | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Is this how we are going to spend the next few months…..seeing who’s got the loonier preacher. This is exactly why America is in the shape its in.This is how Bush got away with what he did..Reporters not doing their job. 4,000 of our men and women dead and this is what we talk about.
Posted by: linda anderson | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Can you believe that these are Obama’s long-time close friends that are tearing off the wheels to his political bandwagon?
I wonder how many more long-time radical left-wing friends of Far Left-Wing Obama have yet to make their radical views known?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Rev Wright a racist.
Father Pleger a racist.
Obama is STILL a member of Trinity !
Count me as another Obama supporter going to McCain!
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Wait, wait, shhh, listen…
I hear them all flocking to Clinton
Posted by: JoeL | May 29, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Lots of mean people do good things for certain groups of people. These people do not represent any sort of Christianity that I want to be a part of my life. It’s funny that Obama comes from a religious background where the ministers spew this kind of hate from the pulpit and we are fighting a war in the name of religious zealots. Surely even Obama’s supporters understand the irony.
Posted by: Susan | May 29, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
So what do us white people who were not even alive owe the black people my grand father did not come to America until the late 1880′s so I own them nothing but respect and that is all they owe me IMO. That priest is sick as most catholic Priest appear to be now. I went to catholic school from 1st-12th grade and the priest I know were nothing like this guy .
Posted by: Bishop | May 29, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I am so GD sick of the pastor of the day “controversies.” Honestly, who gives a damn? These pastors anchor their lives around myth and they simply do not matter. I want to know candidates’ positions on the oil crisis, the sinking economy, how to end the war in Iraq, health care, education, the environment, and a host of other issues. American media wants to cram meaningless sensationalism down the country’s throat. THINK people! We face monumental issues and this type of crap does nothing to solve the pressing issues of the day.
Posted by: dano | May 29, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I would love to see this country united and the Fathers comments are not helpful….Probably true,,, but not helpful.
Posted by: Roderick | May 29, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I leaned Obama, but now I support Clinton.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Today on the CBS News blog there is a story about McCain and his other pastor trouble Rev. Rod Parsley. So McCain has pastor Hagee and Rev. Parsley issues to overcome and Obama has Rev. Wright and father Pfleger issues to over come. We can debate pastors until we are blue in the face on boths sides of the fence or we can move on to other important issues. I say lets move on!!
Posted by: Thinkindependently | May 29, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
“WHO HAVE OBAMA AND HIS FRIENDS UNITED!??!!
People keep saying he’s a uniter, where is the evidence?”
Well, he’s united a lot of Hillary supporters with the Republicans.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | May 29, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
“Is minister Pfleger right? Who on this post is brave enough to honestly answer that question…..IS HE RIGHT?”
That’s easy. No. He’s crazy. But that is not the point. The point is the damage men like this do to the black community by perpetuating the victim mentality and creating excuses for the murders in Chicago.
“We have to start holding each other to a higher standard. We cannot blame the white people any longer.” Bill Cosby – May 17 2004
Posted by: len | May 29, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I wonder how soon will this priest apologize for his stupidity.
Posted by: Stacey | May 29, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Obama sure has a weird collection of long-time friends an associates for someone who wants to “bring us all together”!
Posted by: proverbs | May 29, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
“Who on this post is brave enough to honestly answer that question…..IS HE RIGHT?”
Apparently you missed the part where whites are supposed to give up their 401k’s, their savings, their jobs, and their homes because we did not earn them.
Am I going to say, is he right? I don’t think so, but I am open to suggestions.
Posted by: Joel | May 29, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
i dont see how this makes obama a racist
Posted by: bhrandon | May 29, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Are we really still considering this man as a presidential candidate?
The Democratic Party will lose in November if Obama is the nominee.
Wake up super delegates! This man cannot win over the nation.
Posted by: Eileen | May 29, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
How would you folks like to be held responsible for what other people you associate with say. I didnt think so!!!!
Posted by: smoothecyn | May 29, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
FACT: Obama is a racist.
I hate it when people put “fact” at the beginning of their posts so I just did it for fun. (PERIOD) <– I hate that too
Posted by: come on you guys | May 29, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Rasism. Plain and simple.
Posted by: Dennis Smith | May 29, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Just more proof about what Obama is really all about. The man is dirty to the core!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 29, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Why should I care about any of this. Obama didn’t make the comment someone else did. Obama cannot be responsible for the comments of others only for himself.
I am only interested in what Obama has to say not those he may or may not know. If Father Pfleger were Obama’s spokesperson than I could see the value in all of this.
Enough already!!!!
Posted by: Robert Brown | May 29, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I did not post the comments at 4:45:43.
To the Obama supporter who did, you have a strange way of supporting Obama.
I also see that you don’t know what a PDF is, which means that you are not an U.S. Marine, who is an O331.
This just shows that Obama has liars campaigning for him.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Obama had lost more votes today!
Maybe he has an Uncle who discovered America with Columbus?
Racist. Racist.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
You all keep saying Obama is not responsible for what his friends say, then why does he keep saying McCain is responsible for what Bush says? Come on guys open your mind and shut your trap!
Posted by: yep | May 29, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
White pastor mocking white people .. HA HA! That’s hilarious .. now that my friends is one BIG time loser!
Posted by: MJ | May 29, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
geevil: It is a given that ignorance abounds. Preachers don’t run this country…at least not yet.
Posted by: dano | May 29, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
It was a human moment, but their were NO tears….watch the video, and GET informed! Bushbot2.0
Posted by: destardi | May 29, 2008 4:35:40 PM
______________________________________
“Human moment”? isn’t it funny how people are surprised that she actually had a “human moment” and you can’t deny people were surprised. For this to be an abnormal thing for Hillary suggests that she is either not human or faking her emotions. I believe the latter.
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I saw an earlier post of possible Obama VP
I have a list for Clinton is she were to be so lucky
JUDY GIBBS
SUZANNE COLEMAN
JAMES BUNCH
SANDY HUME
DANNY CASOLARO
PAUL WILCHER
PETER PAUL
NORMAN HSU
LARRY GUERRIN
Monica Lewinsky
DENNIS EISMAN
Paula Jones
IAN SPIRO
Kathleen Willey
CHRISTINE M. MIRZAYAN
Elizabeth Gracen
MARY MAHONEY
VINCENT FOSTER
Juanita Broaddrick
RON BROWN
SHELLY KELLY
BARBARA WISE
Sally Perdue
VICTOR RAISER II
MONTGOMERY RAISER
ED WILLEY
JERRY LUTHER PARKS
JAMES WILSON
JON PARNELL WALKER
KATHY FERGUSON
BILL SHELTON
ALAN G. WHICHER
DR. RONALD ROGERS
JOHNNY FRANKLIN LAUGHTON, JR
DON ADAMS
GARY JOHNSON
There’s more but I got tired
Posted by: Vanessa | May 29, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Obama is a tug and this has been one of the most negative campaigns ever. If Hillary made any mistake, it was to respect him too long, not questioning Obama earlier than Texas and the 3 A.M. There is no reason why she should bow out for this disrespecful bully.
Clinton has the right to run, voters have the right to vote.
Stop muscle democracy!
Posted by: S. Johnsen | May 29, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
All this preacher crap is leftover baggage from the Karl Rove/GW Bush playbook.
This is why our Founding Fathers did not want to mix religion with politics.
I’m sure Obama and McCain want to say a big “thank you” to them.
This is the crap that we’re going to have to listen to for the next 5 months.
Posted by: Mary, MI | May 29, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
I don’t know; did McCain funnel 225,000 to Hagee’s church?
Cuz Obama did for Pfleger.
Posted by: destardi | May 29, 2008 4:39:23 PM
225,000 in grants that went to educational, social welfare and outreach programs. Compare that to McCain seeking the endorsement of someone who preaches that Hitler was acting as the hand of God, solely because he wanted to ingratiate himself with the evangelicals? Yeah, I’ll take the guy who wanted to get more money for the church’s programs, thanks.
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 29, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
I still can’t believe all these people on these blogs ready to vote for someone (anyone) who has TOLD you they want to raise your taxes. They are promising anything to win votes and nobody seems to think about who’s paying for it… It’s going to be Paul, for if you rob Peter to pay Paul, you’re sure to have Paul’s support. The LAST thing we need to happen to our healthcare, is for the government to get involved.
The only responsibility of our United States government is to keep us secure, everything else should be left to the individual states… or the individuals
Posted by: Markl | May 29, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
To the Obama supporter pretending to be me, your post at 4:49:46 PM, just shows you are trying to cover your tracks.
You only wished that you were a U.S. Marine 0331.
Why not abandon the Obama Campaign, and enlist to be one?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
WHO CARES ABOUT THE MCCAIN OR OBAMAS PASTORS ALL PASTORS ARE NUTS IN THEIR OWN WAYS THATS NOT THE ISSUE THE ISSUE IS WHOS GONNA FIX THIS COUNTRY AND END THAT DAMN WAR OH BY THE WAY DOES HILLARY HAVE A PASTOR WE NEVER HEAR OH THATS RIGHT SHES NOT IN THE GE TOO BAD WOULD OF LIKE TO KNOWN WHAT HER PASTOR THINKS
Posted by: angie | May 29, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Obama is toast!
and to be fair to Rev. Wright it can be wheat toast.
Posted by: Oh no | May 29, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
The media needs to start doing thier job they are shoving Obama on us and he has more hate problems that any one I ever met I would not let my kids go to that church no wonder his wife is so unhappy and they both go around saying what we need to give up so all can be happy. If the media had done thier job and held them accountable maybe we would not be in Iraq now.
Posted by: Bishop | May 29, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
White guilt? Funny stuff .. absolutely hilarious stuff!
Posted by: MJ | May 29, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
This happened in JANUARY?
Oh my gosh…
Posted by: Mary, MI | May 29, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Obama is merely Chicago Politics at it’s finest.
“I never heard those remarks”
20 years….
Honest!
Posted by: BlueDog | May 29, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Her tears were as politically calculated as everything else she does…i didn’t buy them for a second.
Posted by: Curt | May 29, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
So what another day another pastor. Guilt by association taken to absurdity. Hillary did cry and it was out if self pity and not a pity for the American people who were to be deprived of universal health care. But the racial talk was out of order and uncalled for and rightly deplored by Obama and so Move on.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | May 29, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Bush raised money for Mccian and that is not an issue. some priest said something that becomes an issue. only for Obama. someday Obama,s classmate will say something and media will make that a big story. this is what free press does in america,
Posted by: George | May 29, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Are we really going to go through this again?
I think we are all for vetting a candidate thoroughly, ensuring he or she has the credentials and appropriate stances on issues for the office, but I have had my fill of this.
Barack Obama is not who can be linked to Barack Obama, nor is John McCain who can be linked to John McCain.
Let’s leave the pastors at their pulpits.
Posted by: John Fuhrer | May 29, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
The only people who care are Clinton supporters.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Is there not a single Obama supporter who can speak to a real issue?
Posted by: Just Curious | May 29, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I try and try to reconcile myself to vote for the DNC nominee even if its not Hillary. But I can’t with this PHONY being forced on me. And, if he wins how is going to get anything done? He didn’t even spend a full term as a senator on his first term. He didn’t even go to Iraq before spewing all this rhetoric, he didn’t have one meeting as the senator in charge of the Afgansitan war! What the heck has he done except raise tons of money and getting people registered?
Posted by: bluebird | May 29, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
You can all still send a message to the DNC. Go to WriteHillaryIn.com and find out if your state allows a write in. My state does (as do most). The candidate has to be registered in the state for the vote to count. If not, it will at least go down as a “protest vote”. This isn’t a wasted vote as when Nadar was running and his few votes may have cost the democratic party the White House. This is ONE HALF OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT DO NOT WANT OBAMA. WRITE HILLARY CLINTON IN IF YOU SUPPORT HER AND SEND A MESSAGE THAT WILL BE COUNTED AROUND THE WORLD!
Posted by: ibfay | May 29, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Obama must renounce this racist vile dispicale so-called Trinity whatever. And the idea that the Democrats are behind such a low life racist Marxist candidate is beyond imagination.
Posted by: Bill | May 29, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
racist man. Barack and Michelle Obama have NO business stepping foot in the White House– after they’ve spent 20 + years listening to a man bash and belittle this country. This country isn’t perfect but we have done a lot to help out many anyone running for the highest office should be someone who LOVES and RESPECT this country. Barack obviously does not!
Posted by: Wanda | May 29, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Obama/Farrakhan 2008
Posted by: Dave | May 29, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
well, for someone who claims to be a uniter, his supporters seem pretty divisive.
it is hard to believe that rev. wright, this guy or any of them believe the uniter stuff from obama, because if they did, they would change their tune.
after seeing rev. wright in the pulpit saying “HILLARY AIN’T NEVER BEEN CALLED A n”. and after hearing this man-mocking sen. clinton.
what kind of people are these folks?
no manners, appealing to the base nature of their listeners. shameful.
i do not understand why any middle class person would vote for obama
black or white. now from what his past influences, and the shapers and molders of his are-the poor people are going to really get over. the redistribution of wealth thing is imbedded in obama’ fiber.
but for all the black and white working folks-whos wealth do you think he is going to be redistributing?
not his sf and all his rich liberal backers-nope, it is going to be the little bit of money we make.
but alas, the dem train with the help of the msm has left the station with obama and his far-left backers running the train.
all of you middle class people who have helped obama get this far,-your purse will slowly tell you ” you bet on the wrong person”
obama didn’t have much of a politcal record to run on-and what he has if far far left.
so axelrod, with cooperation from the media-helped get you all fired up about his personality. so once again not voting the issues but the personality.
same thing with bush-remember
“who would you rather have a beer with-
bush or gore?”
sen clinton is the one you should have gone with.
and to the obama supporters, sen. clinton is not the devil, and obama is not a saint. you will regret when times get really hard around christmas, that you dismissed, made excuses for, all of the things you heard about obama and his past-just because it did not fit with your savior.
we are headed back to the times of claudine.
welfare lines, foodstamps,
“Keep away from me, mr. welfare”
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
I have one question, where is the other 15 minutes of the sermon?
Posted by: JustMyObservation | May 29, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
My bad. This was from last Sunday!
Obama has lost me.
Oh wait, I am poor working class from Michigan, my vote does not count!
Posted by: Mary, MI | May 29, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
This is just more proof that Obama has a long history of associating with radical left-wing socialists, like William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, Michael Pfleger, Jeremiah Wright, and many more that have yet to make their long close relationships with Obama well-known.
Why is Obama close long-time friends with these radical left-wing socialists?
Because Obama shares their radical left-wing socialist views.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Lots of disgusting comments by misinformed Obama supporters in this thread. This is why I will not vote for him if he is the nominee. At least Hillary can unify us.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Obama is a racist through and through. You are described by the friends you keep. I’m from Chicago, and Pfleger is a flake. He’s as much a wacko as Wright is. It’s embarrassing to see him prancing around the stage. He’s not a man of God. You don’t mock someone at church, especially as a minister. Pfleger and Wright like to hold everyone accountable for actions that their parishioners are responsible for. If BO gets into office, this country’s hurtin’ will take a turn for the worst. Count on it.
Posted by: Frustrated Voter | May 29, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
This is very alarming that people who support Obama will sell their vote for a piece of promised bread. Obama says he is bringing hope and change. If you look at the friends he has kept to get him where he is and when they cause problems he has thrown them all under the bus. Don’t you think you as his supporters he will have no trouble at all throwing you under the bus after he is elected. Obama needs to be sent back to Chicago and he needs to stay there.
Posted by: s4bo | May 29, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Am for Hilary till the end but all these pastor stuff needs to be extinguished from these elections. That is not going to pay my gas bill and fill my tanks. And when did we start mixing religion with politics, PLEASE.
Posted by: jayjay | May 29, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
It seems to me the only racist running for president is Barack Obama and he is fully supported by his patriotic wife
Posted by: Lilypad | May 29, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
So let me get this: Rev Ottis Moss invites a Catholic priest to come and speak at their church and the priest mocks Hillary’s tears? Okay, so what does this have to do with Obama again? I’m a little lost.
Posted by: Kevin | May 29, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Hillary was criticized for being unfeeling, no emotion in her. So, she has a human moment when she was exhausted and gets rapped for that. For the record, she did not cry; never saw those much touted tears. She is still a better candidate than BHO. Can’t wait for his racist wife to be First Lady.
Posted by: KC in MO | May 29, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Secondly, what is racist about what the priest said? Isn’t this priest a white man, or are my eyes deceiving me? Isn’t the priest white?
Posted by: Kevin | May 29, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Ok. So BO siats for 20 years in a church that espouses Black Liberation Theology. He has now denounced his former pastor, and Rev. Pfleger. I say we deonounce his deaf ears, his passivity as he sat there for 20 years, and didn’t believe the hate mongering that he listened to..superdelegates, please don’t be deaf too. Do we really want a President who has espused hate and cynicism, who’s best pal’s are fillled with rage too(eg. Ayers,Farrakhan, Wright)? Superdelegates, he can’t win. I am a lifelong democrat, and this video tells me, and should warn all of you….bad mistake…he is unelectable.I would rather have 4 more years of McCain/Same then the scary unknowns of Mr.Obama..PS we are learning more every day..check out the polls and lookf or BUYER’S REMORSE
Posted by: mona sherry | May 29, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
You are absolutely right, mesquito!
Obama does not mess with small-time crooks, anarchists, or haters.
He hooks up with the cream of the crop.
And they just keep on croppin’ up!
Gotta give the man some cred for greasing nothing but top-notch palms.
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORTER OF HILLARY CLINTON I FIND THIS TO BE FUNNY AS HELL!….NOW WE ARE FINDING OUT THAT OBAMA HAS NOT 1, BUT 2 SPIRTUAL ADVISORS THAT ARE RACIST. STILL I READ HOW HIS SUPPORTERS TRY TO DRAG HILLARY INTO WHEN THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT BARACK AND HIS GAFFES. FACE IT PEOPLE, BARACK IS NO WAY READY TO BE PRESIDENT….HIS PROBLEM IS HE JUST DECIDED TO BE PRESIDENT 4 YEARS AGO WHEN SOMEONE PATTED HIM ON THE BACK AT THE DEMOCRATIC COVENTION AND SAID “YOU KNOW YOU OUT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.” HE SO NAIVE AND ARROGANT THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT HIS “ASSOCIATIONS” WOULD COME BACK TO HAUNT HIM. WHO’S ADVISING THIS CLOWN’S CAMPAIGN! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
VOTE HILLARY, McCAIN OR NOT AT ALL!!
Posted by: Eric | May 29, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I just called my church and asked them to watch this clip. I was told that first of all they are not allowed to contribute to political candidates as this article says. As someone in Illinois who is sick to death of the things going on in Chicago, this takes the cake. As a Catholic I cannot believe the Chicago Diocese condones this. With all of the problems the Church has had, I cannot believe it condones this blatant racism from a priest endorsing this candidate with EXTREME views on abortion just for starters. I urge all Catholics to contact their churches. To Nat Turner: No, it’s not funny. People like Pfleger and Wright and his “replacement” seem to think there is a score to settle. At least now that stuff like this is out in the open, you are all no longer closet racists. THESE are the hypocrites because they have taken advantage of everything “free” that society has to offer to make them wealthy and famous. These people are nothing more than USERS.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | May 29, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Thank God its a White Priest. Now the Priest that mocks Clinton is not a racist but Obama is now the one being called a racist. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Hilary supporters grasping for straws.
Posted by: vuzous | May 29, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Joel, thanks for your 4:46:14 PM post.
Because of it, I watched the video and saw where Pfleger said whites have to give up their 401K’s, and other possessions. This is the clip the media should be playing. It gets to the heart of that “economic parity” TUCC embraces as one of its 10 credos.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 29, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
And the Obamas exposed their children to this type of rhetoric on a weekly basis. Those are very interesting family values.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Just remember everyone – this was Obama’s church for 20 years! This is the Obama who wants “change,” who is a “uniter,” who condems “the politics of division.” HA HA HA HA HA HA
Posted by: PGR88 | May 29, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Until you have set foot in this man’s church….no one has the right to make any kind of criticism on him. This is a man who understands the plight of the black community because he lives among the black community. His passion is the less fortunate, which just happens to be black.
You must set foot in a black church that teaches liberation theology to understand. He is just saying what most of us think, but are too scared to say.
I guess this the only thing that can really be found on him. The “religious folks” he hangs around.
Posted by: summernight | May 29, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I guess this will be just another distraction for Obama. His friends, his pastors, his family are all scary. No way I want to deal with these nuts for the next 8 years!
Posted by: vicsmith | May 29, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Just Curious
I read teh article. The question is: Did you? What on earth does this have to do with Obama? I understand Rev. Wright. But this guy is not Obama’s pastor. Secondly, what does him mocking Clinton have to do with racism? Isn’t the priest white, i ask again?
Posted by: Kevin | May 29, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Talk about bad religion. Vote Nader!
Posted by: Tina from Florida | May 29, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
By tomorrow night there will be another one of obama’s golden speeches regarding this Catholic priest and including obama’s uncles.
It is truly amazing how his followers continue to deny that he is other than the Jesus second coming that MSNBC has created. Now Keith Olbermann and Tingly Matthews will cover this exposure as being Hillary Clinton’s fault because she paid or threatened someone to release it, but its not true and its been made up by Clinton. Olbermann will be in such a rage that you will see the spit come flying out of his mouth and Tingly Matthews will not be able to air his show tonight because his legs are so tingly because he is so upset. But maybe there will be time for Tingly to come on board quickly to state how much he hates Clinton?
The DNC will not allow this to be discussed as the “leaders” of the DNC have already crowned the golden prince messiah and are already lining the sidewalks outside the DNC Saturday meeting with rose petals. Any Clinton supporters protesting this DNC meeting will immediately be arrested and punished by the omama cult followers by removing their heads.
Posted by: Lou | May 29, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Some more racist remarks that link Obama to his racist friends and to show his racism: (these are not as good as the ones i posted earlier)
This is from “Audacity of Hope”;
“There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”
From “Dreams”;
“The emotion between the races could never be pure,” “Even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart.”
“There was something about him that made me wary,” Obama wrote. “A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white”
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
ABC JUST HATES OBAMA AND THEY WOULD RATHER SEE CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
OBAMA IS A CHRISTIAN OF GOOD VALUES. HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT ABOUT THEMSELVES.
SOME ARE JUST JEALOSU THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN KINDLY TO HIM.
WE LOVE YOU OBAMA, YOU ROCK.
VIVA OBAMA.
Posted by: Davis | May 29, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Hello Markl. Thank you, thank you, and ThANK YOU! Why the __ _ _ would anyone vote for either Clinton or Obama when they are going to raise your taxes, fact one, and fact two, get government involved in health care. Good God!
Another point, I don’t see how anyone can have any respect at all for the two Democratic candidates this election, or for the minions they associate with, what with the mud-slinging, back-stabbing and childishness, all spawned by both their MASSIVE EGOS.
Frankly, I do believe Hillary thinks she is entitled to the presidency, but not because she is white, because she is HILLARY, doesn’t everyone know that? Egomaniac that she is. I also believe Obama feels entitled to it because he is delusional, or self-deluding. I find it frightening that he would want to sit down with the leaders of Cuba and Iran, but not meet with the military leaders who are now in Iraq to get at least some idea of what is going on in this sense, because at this point, he has NO idea, and he makes that clear when he opens his mouth.
I am getting so very tired of it all and can only hope and pray for a McCain victory in November.
Posted by: Lisa Again | May 29, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
The role of any good and wise leader (Obama) is to act in a way that would ensure the best outcome for his American people.
And if that leader (Obama) needs to go to the depths of hell and speak with the devil to ensure a best outcome for Americans, then it would be an abdication of his responsibility to good leadership!
When a visionless leader (Bush-McCain) imprisons himself in the straitjacket of ideological narrow mindedness, then he is inclined to use and misuse brute force (the last option) when mere talking will do.
There are so many good option in dealing with Iran that one would have to be an ignorant warmonger (who cares not much for American and other human lives) to not seize those opportunities.
Turkey is a muslim country just like Iran. Yet the Turks are level headed enough as to have friendly relationship with Israel.
There is no reason why an astute American leader (Obama) cannot gather allies and others, and together lean on the Iranians to adopt the ‘Turkey model’, of an islamic state that recognizes Israel.
Posted by: Patriot | May 29, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
This is just a preview. So don’t get too excited.
Coming Soon this Summer
Michelle O’s railing against “whitey” video
This will be a sure blockbuster for the GOP
Posted by: Timothy | May 29, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Obama, the most liberal member of the Senate, has spent his adult life hanging around radicals, communists, black nationalists, and an infamous and unrepentant bomber from the weather underground. There’s nothing substantial in his resume to speak of. What exactly qualifies him to be president? Empty words about being a uniter?? Platitudes about hope and change???
Posted by: proverbs | May 29, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
So what’s the story here? Your pastor is worse than my pastor? i’m sure they would dig up dirt on the Clinton’s pastor but that is probably pretty hard since they worship the devil. All you self righteous haters should be worrying about the issues rather than what an associate of Obama’s said inside the walls of his own church. You people are unbelievable.
Posted by: Tim | May 29, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Reading some of these comments, I have to laugh. Will you people wake up!!
Many of you are just plain naive and haven’t got a clue of what the real world is like.
Quit watching the FOX news and learn something.
Posted by: C.D. Hartline | May 29, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
If you truely support Clinton and do not trust Obama in the White House, write Hillary Clinton in on the ballot during the general election. It is critical that the half of the democratic party that support her send their message to Obama, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, etc. —— MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT. SEND A MESSAGE AND WRITE HILLARY CLINTON IN. IT WILL GET THE ATTENTION OF THE ENTIRE WORLD!
Posted by: IBFAY | May 29, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
These stories, along with the many Hillary scandals from her days in the white house, are very creepy. The woman is a corrupt, lying, power-hungry maniac, evidence would suggest…yet, she’s the most popular democrat in the country, and millions would vote for her if she ran for president. That says a lot about millions of people in America. They’re clueless. I’m sure, tho, that many among the millions are, in fact, completely tuned into the truth, but just don’t care how corrupt she is or how many lies she tells, no matter how small those lies are. She’s a phony, and it’s clear that she’s a phony, yet many people love her. Why? I’ve no earthly idea. But, it’s truly scary that so many people do, indeed, love her.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
When I heard Obama sat in this church for 20 years I could not fathom why he stayed unless he believed in the teaching of his preacher. As a Catholic, I would not hesitate for one second to get up and walk out of this priest’s church. It certainly wouldn’t take me 20 years to realize he is not spreading the word and teachings of Christ – he is dividing and inciting. I will vote no to Obama and his judgment.
Posted by: Jill | May 29, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
oop…meant Much more polarizing that Hillary…
Posted by: babs | May 29, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
go watch obamas speech on race, go read his books…
obama is anything but a racist
are we to link eveyr single person who says anything or does anything with everyone they know? It is going to get very hard to run for office anywhere or do or say anything ever
my blogging has put the mayor at risk!
Posted by: bhrandon | May 29, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
I AM A DEMOCRAT–I WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA–HE IS INEXPERIENCED–HAS NO CONCEPT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS–HE WILL CAUSE CHANGE–A MISERABLE CHANGE–BECAUSE IF HE IS NOMINATED –THE REPUBLICANS WILL BE IN OFFICE FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS–BILL WAS MISTAKEN WHEN HE SAID THIS WAS A FANTASY–IT IS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. WAKE UP–THIS MAN IS NOT FIT TO BE NOMINATED
Posted by: SILVERLADY | May 29, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
I remember the kool aid kooks defended Rev Wright over and over.
Then, Obama denounced Wright and they did not know what the “new message” should be.
Cult heads!
Posted by: C.D. Hartline | May 29, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
If Obama wants to be President, he needs to disassociate himself from this church.
Posted by: og | May 29, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Davis:
Why is it necessary that you mention that Obama is a Christian man? Separation of Church and State. I really don’t care what religion or God he follows – or none at all for that matter, as long as he can run the country and is qualified. Isn’t that what we are looking for: A qualified, intelligent human being as candidate to be the next POTUS? If I am looking for a Christian leader, I will go to a Christian church. And why would people be jealous of him? We aren’t in competition for anything on any level. I am not running for President.
Posted by: Lisa Again | May 29, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Time for Clinton to decide to run as an independent. I would prefer not to cast my vote for McCain but I will if given the choice between McCain and Obama.
Posted by: alpaig | May 29, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
That’s all Obama can say about this? They are all lunatics in that church.
Posted by: ben carlson | May 29, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Obama has a lot of baggage. His pals are also racist. When are the SuperDelegates going to wake up and realize that Hillary is the Democrat’s hope.
Posted by: Tina | May 29, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
babs
Since you are so smart, why don’t you go ahead and tell us what this has to do with Obama?
Posted by: Kevin | May 29, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
It is quite scary to see all these people (Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayers, Pfleger, etc) around Obama, isn’t it? Do you really want this guy to be our commander-in-chief? Not a chance for me.
I am a Clinton supporter and I approve this message:-)
Posted by: george | May 29, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
IBFAY:
If you really want to get their attention: Vote for John McCain and deny the Democrats the White House. I am an Ohioian and a lifelong Democrat. I certainly do not intend to vote for Obama if he is the Democratic party’s candidate. I am one of those middle aged white women that Donna Brazile says the party doesn’t need. She’ll see whether she needs the likes of me or not in November, won’t she? She better pray for good weather …. those college kids aren’t going to come out for her if the weather isn’t just so … not like all of us who have voted straight ticket all these years … but she said she doesn’t need our votes. Maybe John McCain will appreciate my vote here in a must have swing state. What do you think?
Posted by: beebop | May 29, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
frustrated voter,
he is also mocking black people,
this was someone who finally figured out how to game and that is what he is doing. the more he prances around and tries to act like a black preacher, the more the black people will pay to come and see him. and yes, i said pay, because anytime you go to church and hear this kind of stuff, when you give in the collection plate, you are just paying for the “show” you have just seen.
these people are entertainers, I would not got to learn of God and brotherhood from these people.
and this is what obama has surrounded himself with for 20years.
How can you get a uniter from listening to this divisive stuff?
so the question still remains
who is the real barack obama?
what does the real barack obama stand for?
and what kind of change is gonna come?
and obama is not telling
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Is there not a single Obama supporter who can speak to a real issue?
Posted by: Just Curious
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Funny the only issues that come from the Clinton and McShame camps are usually ones attempting to tear down Obama’s character. Maybe you should look to your own people and ask the same question because it seems Obama has been the ONLY one talking about “real issues”.
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
obama is really out of touch.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
After a job interview Obama wrote this:
“There was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself. And white.”
That sounds racist to me!
Look at Michelle Obama!
Posted by: C.D. Hartline | May 29, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
This is worst then Hillary talking about assassination!
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Maybe we should all be quiet for awhile. This flurry of wild statements followed by I’m sorry if that was offensive is almost funny. It would help in terms of divisiveness if Hillary would give it up already. She has lost. Congratulations on being second and coming close and all, but stop being a poor sport. No one is entitled to the White House.
Posted by: Sara B. | May 29, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
A black person asked Hillary on MLK day in 2006 what the difference was between republicans and democrats. Her response:
“When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation and you know what I’m talking about…”
and no one even cares. If Wright had made that comment, Obama would be toast.
Posted by: Justme | May 29, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Rev Wright is a fool. But frankly, i see NOTHING wrong with what this Catholic priest said.
Posted by: Kevin | May 29, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Thank you Jake for reporting on this. As a democrat I want to be informed throughly on all candidates.
Posted by: Liz | May 29, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
alpaig said,
Time for Clinton to decide to run as an independent. I would prefer not to cast my vote for McCain but I will if given the choice between McCain and Obama.
I agree with you, she can be president of the coco club in America. Her mind is independent from her body & reality. If she wants more room or a whole country, give her a banana republic.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
This guys seems to be another 15-minute of famer: no one gave a hoot what he said before and no one will later, so he’s striking while the iron is hot to be heard. But I have to admit that I agree with one of his assessments: Clinton seems to feel she has some “obvious” entitlement to be President of this country and is offended when people reject her claims. How elitist is that?
Posted by: Publius | May 29, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Is minister Pfleger correct in what he is saying?
IS THERE ANYONE BOLD ENOUGH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? IS HE RIGHT?
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
More horror show from Obama’s church! I hope you will continue to expose this outrage.
Hillary Clinton is an honorable public servant who has spent her life working for children, foster care, veterans, first responders, education and health care. She does not deserve to be treated so disrespectfully by this church or anyone.
Obama is a shameful man for associating with any of these people. He is strikes me as a political ooprtunist and nothing more.
Super Delegates, please wake up!!!
I also echo Toby’s earliest post here…
McCain is going to eat Obama’s lunch. It is NOT too late at all to pick Hillary Clinton as our democratic nominee!!!!!!
Hillary 08!
Yes We Can Yes We Can
Posted by: Annagain | May 29, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
No way Obama should be president — put the crazy stuff from this church aside — think about having someone with literally no real national experience (apparently — his first two years in Senate were spent preparing to run and since then running) being in charge of national security.
Does the country really want a Chicago street organizer running the country?
I hope not.
I’m a Democrat for McCain.
Posted by: Sooner | May 29, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Kevin…tell me something, if this was Clintons friend for 20 years, would you be asking the same thing (what does this have to do with Obama). It goes to JUDGEMENT! This is not some guy he met a few x’s…oh, what is the point..there is NOTHING Obama can do or say that will de-program an Obama Robot.
And at this point, there are probably very few Hillary supporters who will vote for BHO…
Posted by: babs | May 29, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Another ‘spiritual adviser’ of Obama’s already scrubbed from his website.
When you go to a church for twenty years you are either lying when you say that you are unaware of its teaching, or you are too dense to be in any position of authority and responsibility, much less the President of the United States.
Let’s face it, folks. Obama has surrounded himself with people who espouse hate and misogyny. Is that what we want in a President? I don’t think so.
Posted by: EricaLeigh | May 29, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
hahahaha, white people indeed vote on emotions. That is how you voted for Bush because Kerry was “unpatriotic” despite that he fought for this country. No one is begging you to vote Obama, Vote Clinton or McCain, more power to China, India and Mexico…..woohoo.
Posted by: Toyin | May 29, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
It is just part of the so called “Sissy attacks” , “crying ” . It is part of the package I am sure . A priest can make such remarks it is surprising,I can understand an average joe doing it.I have to say it is totally offensive.
Posted by: j | May 29, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Sorry I will NOT accept the apologies of The pastor or Obama himself. His RECORD of attending such a church, praising such a church SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!!!
OBAMA– YOU WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE.
I want a president that will unite all Americans!! I want a president that LOVES his or her country– you CLEARLY fit neither.
Posted by: Antoinette | May 29, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Obama has nithing to do with and this. In this country we used to have a seperation of church and state. i do not care what a guest speaker has to say at the man’s church. he can not control what others say.
Posted by: Pam | May 29, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
I’ve read Obama’s first book, and I’m more inclined to vote for him now, but some of the people who back him have a problem with anyone not african american or of african descent or origin… and that gives me pause. How much of an influence will that segment of the population be to Obama? Some of these people are haters and racists and blame “white” society for their problems.
Posted by: Jill | May 29, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Senator Barack Obama responds:
The, uh, statements made, uh, at my, uh church, have nothing, uh, whatever, to do, uh, with, uh, my campaign, uh, which is about, uh, hope and, uh, change. I will not, uh, allow these, uh, snippets and, uh, distractions, uh, thwart me in, uh, my work, uh, for the American, uh, people.
Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Well he was correct.
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
“You know: Sen. Obama never mocked Sen. Clinton”
Yeah like calling her Annie Oakley is not mocking? Fact is, Obama and his campaign has used personal attacks against Hillary and her character.
Posted by: trustthesky | May 29, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Far from the Rev. Wright fiasco, this is just one loony Obama supporter dissing Hillary quit literally from his personal pulpit. No harm, no foul.
Posted by: matt | May 29, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Too little, too late, Father. Apologize to the Chicago Archdiocese, and apologize to the Vatican, for you just embroiled the Catholic Church in a political campaign.
He should resign. And the Obama campaign should apologize for allowing this person to serve on his campaign. An official press release repudiating Pfleger would be helpful.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
ABC runs this trash while they bury the McClellen bombshell.
Posted by: BlueJersey | May 29, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
beebop: Ditto Ditto…I will NOT vote for Obama either.
Posted by: babs | May 29, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Well I am glad the Father has apologized.
It must be soooo frustrating for candidates whether they are Obama, McCain, or Hillary when one of their supporters say or do something STUPID.
Every time one of their supporters say/do STUPIDITY, they have to apologize for it.
Posted by: Stacey | May 29, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
bhrandon Remember what Rev Wright said”Obama says what a politician has to say”
Posted by: roncraw | May 29, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Wow. Call the Archdiocese of Chicago and demand they issue a condemnation of Pfleger and remove him from the priesthood. He should be excommunicated immediately. His behavior is ludicrous.
Obama has much expaining to do. Why does he hang with such a creepy crowd?
Obama is never going to be elected President, VP or likely not re-elected to the U.S. Senate after this campaign debacle is over. He’s just slimy.
The Democrats would be foolish to nominate an unelectable Obama.
This race is far from over and won’t be settled until the DNC convention in August where the delegates (who are not really pledged to anyone and can vote for whomever they wish) must choose the most electable candidate for the general election. That candidate is and shall remain Hillary Rodham Clinton. Nancy Pelosi has no right to “step in” and try to settle this now.
As for Obama, the biggest fraud he has perpetuated is that he is black, in fact, he appears to be only 6.25% black on his fathers side, 42.75% Arab Muslim on his fathers side and 50% white from his mother’s side. Obama’s father is Arab Muslim from an Arab tribe according to the Kenyan, Africa records. Barack Obama is an Arab-American, NOT a black American. He’s such a liar. 90% of African Americans supporting him because they THINK he’s black. Wow. What a liar Obama is. What stooges his supporters are. Where is Obama’s birth certificate???
Check it out ABC.
Rock on Hillary! It’s Hillary or McCain. Country first, party second. Patriotism matters.
Posted by: J | May 29, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
And this is worse than BOSNIA??? Ask a soldier wounded by sniper fire.
Posted by: robby10001 | May 29, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Pam
Is a preacher/priest talking politics in a church separation of church and state? I don’t understand your logic.
Posted by: S | May 29, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
You mean she wasn’t faking it?? How can you tell? She has since said an unspeakable comment and is now trying to change DNC rules that she previously agreed to, just to “persuade” people. T
Posted by: Sallie | May 29, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
THE PRIEST IS TELLING THE TRUTH!!! I MEAN READ THE REACTIONS OF SOME OF YOU CLINTON SUPPORTERS TODAY!! WHAT IS SO SAD IS THAT HERE IS THIS MAN ATTEMPTING TO BE PRESIDNET OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO DESIRE OF A BLACK MAN ATTAINING THAT GOAL. OBAMA, EVEN CRITICIEZS THE PRIEST’S REMARKS TOO HASTILY IN MY VIEW!!! I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HIS REMARKS ABOUT MRS. CLINTON’S SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT! ( HOW MANY FOLKS AT THE TIME THOUGHT HER TEARS WERE FAKE!!)
REMEMBER, WHEN THIS PROCESS FIRST STARTED SHE HAD THE NOMINATION “SEWN – UP”; SHE HAD THE MOST MONEY, THE BEST PRESS ( NO ONE MENTIONED MONICA, TRAVELGATE, ROSE-LAW FIRM BILLING RECORDS, etc) MAJORITY OF THE BLACK VOTE, IT WAS ALMOST A CORONATION!!! I THINK THE GOOD PRIEST HAS IT RIGHT! HER TEARS WERE TEARS OF SELF – PITY!!! BY THE WAY, I THINK WHAT’S IRRITATING YOU CLINTONITES IS THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW HE’S RIGHT AND THIS IS ONE TIME WHITE IS RIGHT!!!!
Posted by: agbi | May 29, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Amazing
I couldnt even watch it halfway through.
what a disgusting man.
Guess it really shows what goes on in the trinity church. UGH!
Posted by: mark in wa | May 29, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Camp Clinton needs to send this clip to the MSM like camp Obama sent the Olbermann special comment. Hopefully Greta will have it tonight.
Posted by: Tina from Florida | May 29, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
On the update, it indicated “Obama scrubbed his web site”
Why?
Posted by: Hiding? | May 29, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
I’m tired of people telling “whitey” that if they don’t vote for Obama they are racist. No, I think he is an arrogant, snobby, elitist jerk who would SUCK as a President and he has a militant, mean wife who would make a lousy first lady. Snooty, arrogant jerks come in all colors.
Posted by: babs | May 29, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
A German American[2] from the south side of Chicago, Pfleger attended Archbishop Quigley Preparatory Seminary South, Loyola University and the University of Saint Mary of the Lake. He was ordained a priest for the Archdiocese of Chicago on May 14, 1975. Since 1981, Pfleger has been pastor of the mostly African American Saint Sabina Catholic Church in Chicago’s Auburn Gresham neighborhood.
CONCLUSION HE’S WHITE & RIGHT. HE’S CATHOLIC SO HE AIN’T OBAMA’S PASTOR.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
How many more web scrubbings will there be before the press “gets it?”
Obama’s associates are anti-white hateful people and Obama has been in that church for more than 20 years WILLINGLY.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: al | May 29, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Is this another one of the chosen one’s shady toon friends?
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 29, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
This guy is an Obama supporter, so anything he says can only be taken with a grain of salt. Vote for Hillary, she’s the best. Don’t let these people shove Obama down our throats. If Hillary does not run as an independent, which we urge her to do, then vote for McCain; however, still vote for democrats in the congressional races.
Posted by: Doreen | May 29, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
the Clintons taking old stuff that Obama himself did not say and trying to make it Obama’s mouth putting these words out. Keep trying, Clintonistas- America doesn’t want you. You lost. Cry all you want. All you do is look childish, constantly trying to change the metrics for winning. She’s a pathological liar. The person who posted that Hillary Clinton is an ‘honorable public servant’? Hahaha! If you don’t see the blatant dishonesty in that, you never will. And I’m glad she won’t be the nominee. All you middle-aged racist white women who desperately want a woman candidate (no matter what kind of candidate she is…) are pieces of garbage. And I’m glad you won’t be running this country (into the ground).
Go ahead: vote for McCain, his pro-life supreme court justices, his escalated war in Iraq, more of us soldiers coming home in boxes, his economic ignorance, and his crazed anti-Catholic supporters. If you vote for McCain out of spite because Hillary lost, you are too ignorant to even argue with. You’d be voting for the absolute opposite of what Hillary claims she stands for. And, by the way, does anyone know what she stands for, anyway? Here’s a clue: Whatever is popular right now.
Posted by: Doug | May 29, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
So Catholic now. Interesting…. should (hopefully) bring in that important Catholic vote. I guess it is all about the votes however you get them.
Posted by: dab | May 29, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
SENATOR OBAMA CANNOT CONTROL WHAT FOLKS SAY NO MORE THAN SENATOR CLINTON OR MCCAIN CONTROL SOME OF THE STUPID AND CRAZY THINGS THEIR SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING……..ON THIS WEBSITE…
Now I’ve calm down…..So, if you are representing McCain or Clinton, then should you not be careful what you are saying? Perhaps they will also reject and denouce you too….
Posted by: Wisdom | May 29, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
@ j
Do you know how many times they have not wanted to remove Pastor Pfleger from St. Sabina? Many times, and because of the power of God he is still there, preaching the breathed out word of the Living God!
Posted by: summer night | May 29, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Oops! Just one more friendly reminder of who this guy really is.
Won’t the Republicans have fun with another video from BO’s church IF he gets the nomination.
Super delegates are you listening? You’re going to take the Dems “Wright” over the cliff if you nominate this loser.
I can understand black pride but it’s a little weird to hear the rants against whitey when half of your family is WHITE!
Posted by: bayareavoter | May 29, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Michael Pfleger spoke the truth…a a painful truth, perhaps,…but still the truth.
Posted by: Akinyele | May 29, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
You little Obama Worker Ants sure are wound pretty tight! Nothing is his fault. You always say “Let’s stick to the Issues”. Can any of you state any of his Issues. Or is just the Hope of Change all you need?
If you think the Republician Party is going to stick to the Issues you have a lesson to learn. The Republician Party will find a way to bring Obama’s trash man into this election. They are going to attack Obama at every level , they are going to attack Mrs Obama at every level.
You guys need wake up and face the facts. Obama can not win in November.
Vote for Hillary in 2012!! She will get this mess all cleaned up.
Posted by: Barrett | May 29, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Whatever happened to Bush Jr’s spiritual advisor and president of America’s evangelicals Ted Haggert? Has Bush Jr RESIGNED over that yet?
Posted by: wilder5121 | May 29, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Actions speak louder than words …while Obama talks about uniting and rising above racism , he associates himself time and again with people who just want to have white people on the pole … why ??? What is going on inside Obama’s head , how can he hang around people who preach racism like Wright and now this new Pastor , and these are just not regulars friends , these are people whom Obama has voluntarily and regularly seek company for a very long period of time , over 20 years…..Anyone who still believe Obama should go and take an IQ test ….I for one do not believe in racism and discriminate people based solely on colors and thus I will be very uncomfortable to be around people who preach such harmful ideology …It is toxic …for Obama to be associating with these people for over 20 years and now want us to believe that he is above race is just blatant contempt …This is it , if not Hillary then Mc Cain for me …Can’t vote for a liar (well , all politicians lie anyway , but at least , one should not try as hard as Obama to portray himself as something he is directly opposite of . Lying is bad enough , coupled with being a hypocrit and treating others with contempt is a much much worse combination )Wake up before it is too late…..
Posted by: alohaone | May 29, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
What amazes me is that these people are not even smart enough to keep their mouths shut until they get Obama in office. They continue to expose their radical leftist ideology which is far from mainstream America. Another question is how they continue to get non-profit status and tax exemption considering their political endorsements.
Posted by: bb | May 29, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
I wonder if the Obama know anybody who is not a blasphemous preacher, a marxist, an anarchist, or a crook?
You have to give them credit for running in a very unique and eclectic circle.
If they any of their group’s pictures hanging on their walls, it must look sort of like a post office.
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Soon, you hateful Obama followers will be begging Hillary’s crowd to join your effort of socializing America. I wonder how many will remember your attitudes and actually vote for the wooden man.
Posted by: S | May 29, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
While some say that what some associates of Obama say shows his judgement; I say Hillary’s words shows her Character.
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
REALLY WHO CARES ??????? WHAT ANY OF THESE PASTORS SAY??? THEY AR EHUMAN THEY ARE NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE!!!! GIVE IT A REST YOU IDIOTS!!!
DOES THAT MEAN OBAMA / MCCAIN / HILLARY FEEL THE SAME WAY THESE IDIOTIC PASTORS FEEL???? NO IT DOESN’T!!!! STOP MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF AN ANT HILL!!! GET A LIFE OR GET REAL NEWS!!! WASTE OF PEOPLE PRECIOUS TIME HEARING ABC NEWS REPORT THIS GARBAGE!!!
Posted by: Patriotic American | May 29, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Um… Who ISN’T mocking Hillary Clinton these days? And who can blame him? She is certainly making a mockery out of herself.
Besides, I seem to remember Clinton personally mocking Obama on the campaign trail: “the skies will open up, choirs of angels will sing..” Whatever. This is a non-story.
Posted by: sweimy | May 29, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
I’m really surprised at how some of you folks link someome to his Pastor. People do not go to Church to go and absorb a Pastor’s personal opinion. At Church, one sits down quitely (during the sermon), listens to the message and then following, take the time to analyze the message and compare it to the truth of God’s word, and take what aligns with the Word of God and leave what amounts to the Pastor’s personal opinion to the Pastor.
Folks who go to Church are not robots. We do know how to think for ourselves.
I’m writing this for those of you who ignorantly continue to link Obama to his Pastor’s personal opinion to think twice.
Posted by: Ken | May 29, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Obama said “the general election campaign starts Tuesday”. He is right but it won be his campaign.
No Racists in the white house!
Anyone but Obama
Posted by: BobCA | May 29, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Obama already lost the Catholic vote.
He lost the Jewish vote because of Farrakhan connection and the lie about Auschwitz.
Tomorrow, he curses Tibet?
What a fraud !
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Pfleger said FAR LESS WORSE things than the ex-McCain supporters Reverend Hagee and Parsley.
Posted by: Stacey | May 29, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
sweimy, half the democrats are not mocking Clinton and we will not vote for Obama.
Posted by: Ken | May 29, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
We need to wake up before its too late Mr. Obama is just like all other gangsters on the street there is a lot more to come we need to stop him now, besides his nice dream speeches he doesn’t do anything
Posted by: Sam | May 29, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
We’re voting no to the media bias against Hillary since the start. We’re voting no to the DNC bias against Hillary. We’re voting no to sexist, racist treatment of Hillary supporters! We’re voting no to scare tactics by Obama supporters! We’re voting no to threats and insults from Obama supporters! We’re voting no to bullying by Obama supporters! We’re voting no to Obama supporter silence when racist, bigoted remarks fly from other Obama supporters. We’re voting no to this cycle of abuse from Obama supporters!! We’ve had enough of abusive Obama supporters and we’re saying NO! We’re rising up, standing up and saying NO!! NO MEANS NO!!!
Posted by: former dem in chicago | May 29, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
These people are Barack Obama’s spiritual mentors, advisors, long-time friends and associates. And, he keeps having to throw them under the bus when they are discovered. That says a lot about his past, and his judgment. Yeah, these people are creepy; and some of them are criminal; and most of them are indicative of WHO Barack Obama looks to for counsel, whether its political or religious counsel. The fact that they keep popping up, these vile hate-mongers, racists, and criminals, is because Barack CHOSE TO SURROUND HIMSELF WITH THEM. My momma always said, you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep. Momma was always right.
Posted by: bmc | May 29, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Wilder 5121 said, Whatever happened to Bush Jr’s spiritual advisor and president of America’s evangelicals Ted Haggert?
I thought the idea was to have Obama improve America, not to one-up the Republicans in the bigotry department.
Posted by: bedy | May 29, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
This just in:
Rupert Murdoch predicts a landslide Obama victory. Believe it!
Posted by: Set the record straight | May 29, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Mr Rev. Obama feels extactly like the people he hangs out with.
His goal and agenda is their goal and agenda.
His chants and slogans and speeches were for Solidarity of Blacks.
He is the one, the joshua leading them into the promise land.
Read all of his speeches, read the ones to all the churches he campaigned in.
Rev Jessie Jackson and al Sharpton can barely contain themselves.
He does not need to know about foreign relations, or war, or the economic budget to do what he plans on doing.
Posted by: seah | May 29, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Turk is now one of the few (if any) voices with connections to that crowd who are saying, quite simply, that the book “What Happened” is steeped in little more than truth.
“After watching McClellan on Today this morning, I think the reception his book received exemplifies the point he was making,” Turk told The Huffington Post in an email. “People had high hopes for President Bush to bring America together after his election and after the attacks on 9/11. They felt disillusioned by the Administration’s adoption of the ‘win at all costs’ partisan mentality in this town. I think the bigger point of Scott’s book comes from the lessons he learned while playing a part in the permanent campaign. It’s an exploration of how that mindset can lead to some really bad choices.”
Posted by: Real | May 29, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Were is the problem ?
According to me, its god because, White Man talk about the lie of Hillary.
Baby Hillary, please, go away !
Posted by: Allain Jules | May 29, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Somebody earlier said “As a Chicagoan, I’m offended by this stupid media feeding frenzy.
Pfleger is nuts, but he’s done a lot of good work for his community.”
Others have said what a great guy he is.
Kept a lot of people in jobs and off the streets.
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Let me get this straight, Obama hung out and was friends with this guy for the last couple of decades????? With Rev. wright, ferrican ect. I could be wrong here but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it is probably a duck.
Posted by: billy bob | May 29, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
20 years with these nutcases!!
McCain gets an endorsement and the kool aid cult goes crazy.
Let’s see. 20 minute enorsement or 20 years?
Obama is a liar, a fraud and a racist!
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 29, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
If Obama and this creep have been friends for many many years and Rev. Wright was Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years and we are not suppose to judge Obama by what they have said and done, then why does Obama continue to judge McCain by what Bush has done.
You can’t have it both ways.
Posted by: Yes | May 29, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Why are people on this board still yaking about Obama talking with former terrorists. Who cares? Our next president (just like the current one) will have to be best buds with one: His name is Maliki, he is the current president of Iraq, and for more than a decade, he was considered by the US to be a terrorist. Now, we have to hear our president and the entire right wing singing his praises, meanwhile, the former rightwing (reagan admin), wanted him in prison.
Posted by: rich | May 29, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Oh No, again. No idea.
Sen McCain-08
Posted by: whatever | May 29, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
How can I vote for a man who goes to a church that is a cauldron for blatant hatred against whites? The people there seem to enjoy this hatred. I’m sure Obama never noticed-he must take us all for fools! I am another truly life long Dem not voting for Obama!
Posted by: Dawn McNeal | May 29, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
In the forseeable future McCain will realise that Sen Obama is not an inexpierienced young man “at 46 yrs ols”. But a very capable and highly intelligent leader. As they say in the Military “Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way”
Obama 08
Posted by: JLD1959 | May 29, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
S – Don’t you mean reality check? Your girl has run a campaign by taking regular pot shots Obama spinning and twisting everything from childhood to church. It turned most people off to her and the constant spin fueled mistrust. Her campaign proved to the world that the Clintons were everything that the Repubs have portrayed them as for years, liars and cheats. Too bad though because I used to defend Bill Clinton regularly in conversation with Republican co-workers. It pains me to find that they may have been right all along.
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Another one?!?!?!?!?!
Posted by: Told you | May 29, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Ken said, I’m writing this for those of you who ignorantly continue to link Obama to his Pastor’s personal opinion to think twice.
I don’t hold Obama responsible for the bigotry of his pastor. I hold him responsible for his own. You know, like describing your grandmother as a typical white person, saying white people are bred a certain way and saying white folks’ greed runs a world in need.
Posted by: bedy | May 29, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
More ammo for Republicans.
Look what happened to Kerry and all he did was windsurf.
These racists and Muslims have doomed Obama!
Posted by: Set the record straight | May 29, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Obama and baggage. Obama and more baggage. These people are racist. For whatever reasons, they justify hating and demeaning whites. Assuming the reasons and justifications for this hate are historically correct, I take issue with these losers trying to convict me of what my great, great grandfathers and uncles might have thought or done. All I know is I do not and I have taught my kids not to judge someone by their color. Individuals are good or bad, regardless of color. What we have here is a hugh den of racist’s church goers.
Posted by: Roger King | May 29, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Can somebody please find footage of OBAMA saying things like that. I don’t want to hear what some pastor or some friend says. Same thing with McCain….please find footage of MCCAIN saying negative things. It’s not like he was lying. It was his opinion.
Posted by: Chief Illiniwick | May 29, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Obama has too many crazy old uncles. Its time to stop supporting the hate from the pulpit. Yes, its a free country for people to say what they want. But when you are running for POTUS and provide monetary support for these ministers of hate, while your platform is to be a “uniter” of all Americans, it raises more doubt. The Clinton’s were not wealthy white people and they earned most of their wealth in the last 7years. Many people of all races have aspired, worked hard, and with good timing have become wealthy. Why begrudge and attack?
Posted by: evie | May 29, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Who is this Murdock guy anyway? Does H&C work for him?
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 29, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Lets see how we can mock Obama:
Charlie Gibson: Senator,research has shown that keeping Capital Gains Tax Rate low has increased revenue. Yet, you want to double the Capital Gains tax
Messiah Obama: Uhhh ummm Look, Charlie..We uhhh can look at all the stats..ummm uhhh that are out there..and uhhhh. We have to be uhhh fair about the taxes…ummmm
Gibson: So, you acknowledge that keeping Capital Gains at the current rate would increase treasury receipts?
Messiah Obama: Oh C’mon, Charlie (Obama’s Thinking – How is this guy not impressed w/ The CHOSEN ONE, must not be enlightened or probably racist) stop uhhh with your innuendos…and uhhhhh
Gibson:…And?
Obama: Look look uhhhhh, Warren Buffett even says he uhhh ummmm pays a lower tax rate than his Secretary…Uhhh
Gibson: I understand that Senator Obama, however, if keeping Capital Gains Tax low like Bill Clinton and GW Bush increased revenues and treasury receipts, why would you now want to double the tax?
Obama(sneering): I’m Harvard Law – Magna Cum Laude and the Democratic Nominee..Yaaaa heardddd??
THE U.S.’s FIRST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENT
- Where Mediocrity astounds, confounds and rises to the TOP!
What a Country!!
Posted by: Jacob Ezekial | May 29, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
That video McCain has of Michelle Obama ranting against “whitey” is next.
Visit ” No Quarter” for more information !
Posted by: Set the record straight | May 29, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
..this country is goin down-
I can just see the other countries getting a good laugh at us.
Posted by: mary | May 29, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
If the news media had done their job and vetted Obama before the caucus he never would have gotten the votes he did. A lot of people are upset that they were tricked into voting for such a flawed candidate who cannot possibly win in November. The only choice we have left is to vote for McCain.
Posted by: Linda | May 29, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
@ chief Illiwink <– or whatever
Obviously you have not read Obama's book.
Hmmm let's see here, what were his exact words:
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I
began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"
- Obama's racist book "Dreams from My Father"
"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother race"
- Obama's racist book "Dreams from My Father"
"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, the son of
Africa, that I'd packed all the I sought in myself"
- Obama's racist book "Dreams from My Father"
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
If the Democrats don’t want a repeat of 1972, 1980, 1988, 2000 and 2004 — then the superdelegates need to be reading this stuff. Some liberals in the party may think this is nothing, but, to a lot of us in the party who are moderates or conservatives, these associations are not acceptable.
Besides the many questionable associations Obama has, he has no real experience — his first two years in the Senate were spent preparing to run for presidency and since then he has been running.
Is this the person we need being in charge of national security?
It is either Clinton or Mccain for me.
Posted by: Sooner | May 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Senator Obama needs a much bigger bus.
Yes, he should be held responsible for those he claims are his spirtual mentors. Obama reminds me of a very spoiled child: “its not my fault, I’m not responsible, I wasn’t there that day” etc., etc. He is just like George Bush, he has no capacity to take responsibility for his own actions (having spritual mentors and advisors that are racist and unamerican.)
Posted by: carr50 | May 29, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Maybe it’s just me.
When any of us talk about that white voters comment Clinton made, it is stark how many people say she was stating a fact. The media excuses her comments because they have spent the preceding 3 or 4 months talking about BHO’s problem getting white voters.
Just the facts.
Whenever race is mentioned in reference to BHO, whatever is going on is completely his fault and he is responsible for it including all known and unknown associates, black or white or anyone else.
HRC talks about assassination in reference to a fellow Democrat in a presidential primary, the media explains she meant nothing craven about it even if it was said explicitly 2 times prior.
John McCain seeks out a political endorsement from a guy with a history of saying some very straightforward things about large segments of the U.S. population. He earns more than one pass until he mentions the worst crime in the 1900s: the Holocaust. Then McCain says Uncle. No big deal.
Now you present this cleric and say here it is public…here’s another one.
What exactly is the media’s standard on scandals and associations? It is not an even standard AT ALL.
It doesn’t make my confidence in you guys strong or stronger. It just makes me believe it is time for a change in media ownership and regulation of the press so it is truly an independent institution.
Posted by: Genna | May 29, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Does anyone ever attend that church to worship? Is the Gospel ever preached or is it just a platform for spewing hate and racism?
Posted by: womanpower88 | May 29, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Down with Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, all the rest AND the DNC! Write in Hillary! There is no way this socialist neophyte with all the racist friends should be president.
Posted by: Tom in MA | May 29, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Another one of Obamas buddies yanked from his website and campain. Is this the man you libs want running the country? Oh uh sorry uh I made uh bad judgement call uh again uh for the last twenty years???
Posted by: billy bob | May 29, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Those against Obama, Please answer these questions:
Who has raised the most dollars, not from lobbist?
Who has come from nowhere to be where he is now?
Who has managed primary campaign in a professional manner?
Who has had supperdelegates jumping ship?
Who has won respect and endorsements from some of the most respected leaders of the the past and present?
Who is the candidate liked and accepted by millions people of the world?
Who can best bring the country together and win respect from rest of the world?
Who speaks like a leader and that America can be proud?
I say OBAMA but you are entitled to your own. But please answer above because you may win me over as I am open minded.
Posted by: pana | May 29, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Breaking news: Obama has perpetuated the greatest fraud in political history, presenting himself as the black candidate. He’s not black. Obama is only 6.25% black on his father’s side, 42.75% Arab Muslim on his father’s side according to Kenya, Africa records., and 50% white on his mother’s side.
Obama is in fact, an Arab-American. Wow.
Where is Obama’s birth certificate?????
Check it out ABC.
Now, THIS IS breaking news. Obama has deceived the black community garnering their support of up to 90% while PRETENDING to be one of them. Wow, Obama is such a fraud. Call him out, NOW.
Posted by: J | May 29, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Some people have quoted Rupert Murdoch, who has predicted a landslide. lol TO start with, he has a long history in England where he was voted the most hated person in the past 25 years. Now, to our dismay, he has recently become an American citizen. Believe me, it’s all about taxes.
Posted by: roger king | May 29, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I do not understand how the Obama supporters can blame this latest news on Sen Clinton.
This is Obama and his friends!
No way at all to blame the Clinton Campaign with this.
Vote for Hillary in 2012!!
Posted by: Barrett | May 29, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Mr. Obama is hammering McCain by linking him to someone who he was endorsed by President Bush. So, this is all fair game. If you live by the game of association you will die by the game of association.
Posted by: Tyrone | May 29, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
That video is beyond offensive. Does the good Rev. suggest that women should also be due reparations for all the years of oppression? How about Obama feeling entitled to the nomination because he’s a “man”? Of course, this is nonsense! Any Obama supporter needs to have a serious heart-to-heart with themselves and ask if this is really the kind of rhetoric we want informing the man who may be president.
It is divisive, racist, and hurts all people, blacks and whites. It does nothing to forward race relations in this country. It is backward-thinking and serves to only open up wounds, not close them.
I am stunned that this has not been broadcast on all the major news networks.
Posted by: Hillary or Bust | May 29, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Just an observation:
Blacks have ALWAYS voted for white presidential candidates ever since blacks earned the right to vote in this country a little over 40 years ago. None of them ever talked about uniting this country on all economic, racial, and social lines under one umbrella for one common cause of stability and progress of our nation’s future.
Finally we have such a candidate who happens to be Black and he catches much hell from the populace. Go figure!
Posted by: stumped | May 29, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Is Obama going to “denounce” all of his best friends so he can run for president?
Would it really help?
Sorry Obama :(
Posted by: George | May 29, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I can’t believe some of these Obama supporters. Wake Up, you are about ready to nominate this go and possible be the next President.
I don’t care if Obama shares the views or Wright or this other Rev the fact remains Obam has a very strange lot of friends and he clearly will NOT be able to win in the general election (thank goodness).
Posted by: Bill | May 29, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Barack, the republican gift that keeps on giving…..and giving and giving and giving and giving and giving.
What a joke this guy is.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | May 29, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
President Hillary Clinton I love the sound of that.
Obama should have gotten ride of his racist skeletons long before he ran for office. Oh wait he was too busy earning all of his experience.
Posted by: Gene | May 29, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
I respect the compassion of all of the good-hearted, white-guilt driven, white folks on here that have said Pfleger was right and they agreed with him.
I hope they all will now take a break from the blog, pack up all of their assets, and send them to Pfleger.
You don’t have to send everything, all he mentioned were your 401Ks, your savings, your job, and your house.
You will feel very cleansed once you do, in more ways than one. But hey, you can keep the rest of your stuff, and your kids.
At least for now!
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Onward Hillary!
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I just read the story, and I am shocked, disgusted… I don’t know what to say…
This is what Obama is all about.. he’s NOT about change, he is NOT about hope.. he’s about the black power.. let’s have a black president so that we can stick it to the whites!
Posted by: DMK | May 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Just a passing thought as BLOGS are suppose to share thoughts……
We were all shocked on September 11, 2001, when the unbelievable happened. Might it be possible that in all of these years, the terrorists have been putting into motion another plan of attack that is just as shocking and dreadful? Maybe they haven’t been just sitting around; maybe they have had a plan in motion all this time.
This idea didn’t cross my mind until the McCellan book surfaced which was totally “out of context” to his life at the White House. The timing is what causes one to think that politically it will help Obama. If the terrorists were clever they could select a person that is down and out (Obama was heavily in debt before he ran for the Senate), someone with hatred for the traditions of the US (Obama attended a radical black racist church), you look for someone that has been running with the wrong crowd (Rezko, and the governor of Illinois). You offer him money, you offer him backing, and you offer him the United States on a platter. You help him buy his home, you help him with campaign monies to win the election and you begin even deeper planning to get him into the White House. You have years to accomplish this feat and you have connections.
Obama has the “gift” of convincing speech and you would see this attending his church. He is ambitious and seeking power. His past is riddled with problems (drugs and whatever) but you have time to plan to either cover-up or have explanations at the ready. You begin buying up certain people that have political pull and we know that this has happened through the Democratic Party (the Superdelegates).
I give you the biggest conspiracy ever pulled on any country, I give Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: Anne | May 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I’m sorry why are so many of you upset? What part of this is NOT true??
(spoken from a education white hardworking American)
Posted by: Cathy | May 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Oh Give me a BREAK!! And how is this news!!!!?? The cannot find anything significant to complain about so this is the shiggiddy that they come up with!
One more week and Hillary is out of the race. Maybe then the pettiness will end.
Posted by: Oh Please!!! | May 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
@ rpratt
A racist president is the biggest issue. We will not have someone in the White House that surrounds himself (I would say or herself but Hillary would not be friends with this creep) with racist radicals.
Imagine what the world would be like if these guys had their way. With Obama they do have their way.
Posted by: Bam | May 29, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
The effort to link Obama to this tirade is so unfair that reasonable people all across America will reject it. Obama cannot be held responsible for what others choose to say–it is a free country! Show me instead what Obama himself said, now and and in the past, that is unacceptable. We must condemn those who try to divide us; but they statements stand or fail on their own.
Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 29, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Anne- You can put away the tinfoil hat now. Nobody sane is going to believe that Obama is a Manchurian candidate. If you hate him so much, why not tell us the real reasons?
Posted by: jock59801 | May 29, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
How many of these videos have to come out before you see the real Barack Obama? HMMM?
3? more? how about 40. Or will you keep supporting him, blindly?
Posted by: BB | May 29, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Is the term white privilege from a white pastor that controversial?
I wonder what rocks the media will begin to use when they can’t get any traction from these white-black divide articles. I wonder whether the ills of the South Side will come under scrutiny by the national media and they’ll focus on BHO to give him responsibility for local politics? Will the media seek to walk the streets of the South Side to get the real story?
I doubt it very seriously. You guys are going to stereotype and demonize, not because you are bad people but because you want to protect the nation from that ilk.
At first, I thought the comments left on this page were right of center, but your reputation from the Salon days held up. Now, I am beginning to think your take on these story speak to your leanings.
Posted by: Genna | May 29, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Reply to Above Inquiries:
You can see Obama himself at pulpit backing up this black theology horror on today’s videoclips at noquarter website. Three other videos up today explain obama’s relationship to black theology retranslation of Christian message, with Jesus as a black socialist,returned in current prophesied Messiah to destroy the white race. Part of video included Farrakan, Nation of Islam leader, directly calling Barack Obama the LONG AWAITED MESSIAH of Islam.
You could also go to blog of soldier4hillary, who is an AA female, who has temporarily stopped blogging with explanation of the deragatory hate mail she’s received from obama supporters for serving in US military.
You can also see more recent noquarter post of the big Oregon rally (where the crowd was drawn by free Decembrists concert – a group that opens their show with the Soviet National Anthem). Also at the rally, a portable toilet was intentionally set up ON TOP OF THE MONUMENT TO FALLEN POLICE OFFICERS to p on them’. Obama went to p there right after his speech.
WAKE UP AMERICA! How thick with denial are middle class brains setting about their own destruction, voting for obama.
Posted by: jmk | May 29, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
How much more anti-American and anti-white hatred are you people going to put up with?
Posted by: Katherine | May 29, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Its only another crazy old uncle that Obama hung out for decades, agrees with and provides monetary support. Is he going to have another speech on race and unity? The first one was sooo preeeeeetty!
Posted by: evie | May 29, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Babs, that might be right…..If AA’s didn’t vote for damn near every Dem Pres by 80% 2 85%. Or did you forget Bill Clinton only won because he garnered 86% of the black vote???
Posted by: The Oracle | May 29, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
I can’t believe (well, I can’t believe any of it, to be honest with you; I can’t believe someone could stand up in public and say things like that, even if he/she felt like that; I can’t believe a Democrat, as I assume Pfleger is, would be so dismissive of another Democrat and I can’t believe he was stupid enough to do it. But beyond that, to continue from before) I can’t believe his inane response! He’s sorry? He’s sorry he offended anyone? Good grief. And the man so many want as our president went to this church for 20 years? I bet if Michelle had been in the audience she would have been laughing and clapping, too.
Posted by: Beth | May 29, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
@ The Oracle
Gerladine Ferraro is nothing like these creeps. But if it makes you feel better to think that then go right a head.
By the way, you seem very intelligent.
Posted by: Edwin | May 29, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
If hillary or McCain had associated for twenty years with white pastors who preached like this guy and Rev. Wright aginst the black man their public life would immedietly be over, period. Somehow it’s ok for Obama? What is going on, I wish someone would anwser that?
Posted by: billy bob | May 29, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Actually, there is quite a bit of difference among distinct tribes of Kenya, Africa. Apparently, Obama’s father is from an Arab tribe in Kenya, Africa and is identified as a Muslim on the records there. Obama’s cousin Raila Odinga is from the same tribe, and Odinga tried to overthrow the democratically elected Kenyan government. Odinga claims to be in constant contact with his cousin Barack Obama. It has been reported that Odinga wants to instill Sharia Law in Kenya. What do you think of that?
The point is, Obama has not presented himself truthfully. Obama is in fact and Arab-American, NOT a black American. There is much difference. Black Americans have supported him in large numbers because they think he’s one of them. He is not.
Where is Obama’s birth certificate?
Check it out ABC.
Posted by: J | May 29, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Pana
Those against Obama, Please answer these questions:
Who has raised the most dollars, not from lobbist? He did get lobbyist money
Who has come from nowhere to be where he is now? He came from somewhere and he managed to get this far without having his background thouroughly checked.
Who has managed primary campaign in a professional manner? I give Pana… who?
Who has had supperdelegates jumping ship? Obama
Who has won respect and endorsements from some of the most respected leaders of the the past and present? Obama? Like Castro, Kadafi, etc??
Who is the candidate liked and accepted by millions people of the world? See above
Who can best bring the country together and win respect from rest of the world? Like he’s doing now??
Who speaks like a leader and that America can be proud? He speaks like a politician.
I say OBAMA but you are entitled to your own. But please answer above because you may win me over as I am open minded.
Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
DMK, the main fault of your argument is HRC said the RFK comments. Not a supporter, Obama didn’t say that, he actually apologized for a guy he prob hasn’t seen in a yr. Use correct analogies cuz that one was stupid.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 29, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Oracle, true…but they turned their back on him fast enough, didn’t they?
Bill was labeled as a racist but his record as President was anything but…
Posted by: babs | May 29, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
To JP re rally of 80,000 people: What the media neglected to report (since they’re in the tank for Obama) is that these young people came to hear a free concert in the park by a popular local band. After the band played, Obama took the stage. The media reported it as if 80,000 fans came specifically for Obama’s rally. That’s misleading.
Posted by: Juju | May 29, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Um didnt hillary run as the inevitable candidate? she ran her campaign as the one ready on day one hillary from the jump had a 40 point lead on everyone everyone. and know shes crying of sexism and bill conspiracy. People we gotta get out of the pulpit. religion and politics do not mix
Posted by: Allamr18 | May 29, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Ha – Senator Obama failed to say whether he thinks the comments about “white entitlement” are accurate or not (regardless of being “divisive” and/or “backwards looking”). So what’s the answer Senator?
Posted by: BJ | May 29, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
As my Italian in-laws say “Fish rot from the head”.
It doesn’t matter what the connection is between this so-called priest and Obama, Obama and his campaign have sent deliberate, recurring messages to their supporters that it is fine with them to disrespect Senator Clinton.
So unfortunate though. Many of us have hardened our hearts to Obama and to the Democratic Party.
I do wonder though. If Obama really thought he had this in the bag, you’d think he would expect graciousness and conciliation from his supporters toward Clinton. It does make me wonder why all you Obama people are still lurking on these message boards. Shouldn’t you be busy signing up all those new voters you’ve promised to replace the ones exiting the Democratic Party?
Posted by: s. valenti | May 29, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I am white female, 48 years old, I don’t have to be black to realize that Obama is the greater leader because he out organized Clinton and came from a handful of votes past her to gathering crowds of 80,000. Clinton doesn’t get that. I don’t want a President that can’t even manage her own campaign and going into debt. That’s tell tale of how she would run the country. Obama is obviously so much more capable.
Posted by: HoosierPamela | May 29, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Chief Illiniwick:
How about the first speech Obama gave right after the Reverend Wright videos/tapes were shown:
“I cannot disown him any more than I can disown my WHITE grandmother…”
Of just listen to him speak in the audio version of his “Dreams” book:
It’s all there, hidden of course in someone else’s words (Roy said this, Joe said that, etc.) as all of Obama’s off-color remarks are.
Posted by: SandyB | May 29, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Edwin, obviously more than you. An Obama “supporter said that Clinton has a sense of entitlement. Even her old supporters and everybody else can see that except for her current supporters of course. Clinton’s CAMPAIGN CHAIR(Ferraro) says Obama is only where he’s at because he’s black. So which is worse?? Come on man, don’t let your heart get your brain in argument it can’t win.
Posted by: The Oracle | May 29, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
I have to say that I tried to overlook the things that Obama’s wife and Rev Wright were saying but it just keeps on going and going. I am not longer supporting Obama.
Posted by: steve | May 29, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
This has been going on with Obama for some time now glad to see that someone is finally reporting on it in the MSM.
I will NEVER vote for this man, he is unfit to be POTUS and I am not racist I will gladly vote for Stephanie Tubbs Jones.
Posted by: Dawn | May 29, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Obama is using the race card more than anyone I have ever witnessed to secure black votes. Look at his platform or lack of it! Forget about color and charisma. He bashes America! Do we need this kind of leader??? B B
Posted by: Bruce | May 29, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Babs, why do people like to say blacks turned their backs on Clinton?? In my opinion its the Reagan Dems who turned their backs on Clinton. Blacks supported him for 8 yrs, so what else do they owe him?? Blood??
Posted by: The Oracle | May 29, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORTER OF HILLARY CLINTON I FIND THIS TO BE FUNNY AS HELL!….NOW WE ARE FINDING OUT THAT OBAMA HAS NOT 1, BUT 2 SPIRTUAL ADVISORS THAT ARE RACIST.
Could you please explain how a WHITE priest mocking Hillary (a WHITE woman) for crying is a racist?
Posted by: JP | May 29, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
What we have found in the Trinity church is a bunch of fools. They are attracted to each other. As this latest fake priest clearly shows, the quality of loving thought at this church is nonexistent. It isn’t as much about overt racism as it is about stupidity based on the ego’s weaknesses and attractions of these people.
Posted by: roger king | May 29, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Despicable; all of them Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Moss, Meeks. Make no mistake this is *not* guily by association. Obama has had intimate liftetime relationships with these people. This is about Obama’s membership in this church for all of his adult like. Twenty years.
These sentiments were not born yesterday; they have steep in their minds for a very very long time.Their rantings are real; these is who they are who they have always been.
Words matter? Which words Senator Obama? Which ones?
Pfleger’s and Wright’s associations with Obama are a disgrace. Their divisive hatred has no place in the Oval Office.
None at all.
Posted by: Rod | May 29, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
more gasoline for the fuel. RNC = in heaven right now
i think it’s pretty disgusting that it’s actually obama’s side that has been the most racially divisive over anyone else – including hillary clinton. i’m LIVID and i do not want this man to represent ALL americans
Posted by: rachel | May 29, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
It’s hard to understand the reaction of all those parishioners jumping around, laughing and screaming in response to this so-called priest’s rants.
If that had happened in a white church, and Obama had been the target, there would probably be calls for a civil rights investigation.
We have Obama to thank for this growing racial divide. He’s set back race relations by 50 years.
Posted by: bromfield22 | May 29, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Obama was trained and molded in that church in chicago.
His mentor Rev Wright taught him well.
Everything to beleive in. He instill it in obamas heart, mind and soul.
It is what keeps obama going. His reason, his purpose His goal.
The speeches the slogans are not directed at you. Are not for your purpose.
He came to Unite, The black community.
Posted by: seah5 | May 29, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Juju,
80,000 was the crowd in Oregon that had no band. They were all there to see Obama. Why? because first they are educated and are intelligient enough to see what a great leader Obama is. Obama is full of love and respect, always demands respect and shuns disrespectful behavior. That is why I as a white Christian will vote for Obama because he is the most Christian like out of all.
Posted by: Pamela | May 29, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Obama learned his Wright lesson well, now he rejects Pfleger as soon as the video hits the web.
Unfortunately it doesn’t detract from reality, revealing what Obama really thinks of the country he lives in. His associates are Wright/Pfleger, Ayers/Dohrn and criminals like Rezko/Auchi.
How can the Dem Party even think about nominating this man to be President?
Posted by: alee25 | May 29, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Hey Jock…true, he attracted approx 80,000 in Oregon. He was in Las Vegas 3 days ago and attracted 60. What happened ??
Posted by: roger king | May 29, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
jim
Funny, I watched two cables and saw nothing of the sort. Maybe you watched MSNBC twice???
Posted by: S | May 29, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
How can anyone listen to this creep or Rev. Wright at all. I had to turn the video off before it got to the worst part because I couldn’t even take it.
Posted by: John | May 29, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
How many times must Obama say “These people don’t represent me, I’ve only known and agreed with them for 20 years, but now that I’m running I don’t really believe these things.” He is the Munchurian Candidate for sure. Obama ’08 and Osama ’09, or maybe Castro ’09
Posted by: Dennis | May 29, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Lemmee guess. Barry Obama didn’t knoew this fool was given to ugly, racist outbursts. Despite his long association with him, these comments come as a total shock to Barry. Yup. That’s the ticket.
Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
OBAMA IS HOPE !!!
Hope that his past will stop showing who/what he really is.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 29, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
I give you the biggest conspiracy ever pulled on any country, I give Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: Anne | May 29, 2008 5:58:07
PM
Another out of touch uninformend voter.
Have you’ve ever heard of George W. Bush and a small fraud called IRAQ?
Have you ever heard of Scott McCellan?
I guess when you’re a Hillary or McSame supporter knowing your candidates don’t have a chance, you’ll grasp at anything.
Posted by: JP | May 29, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Obama supporters are as bad as Bush supporters.
Instead of excusing war mongering they’re excusing sexism.
Instead of ignoring radical religious views of the right they’re ignoring radical religious views of the left.
Are we really going to let radicalists hijack this country again? Didn’t we already have eight years of that? Have we forgotten already?
Posted by: miss malevolent | May 29, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
JP
Actually, Obama (aka Soetoro) makes Nixon look like a saint. Disgusting little man, he is!
Posted by: S | May 29, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
If you guys don’t vote for Obama, America may just end up with radicals running for president…..
senator is fine for the job…
IF YOU DON’T LIKE HIM, THEN WHY NOT YOU RUN!!!?
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Hate is the only thing in that “church”.
Posted by: brent22202 | May 29, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
That is one crazy vote for the War in Iraq for person who wants to end the war. Talk about judgement.
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
A HIT DOG WILL HOLLER!!!!
A lot of folks are hollering now because they realize just how realistic the minister’s remarks are….
Keep on hollering….the truth hurts, don’t it?
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
This dem is voting for McCain. Actually, I don’t think I actually can be classified as a democrat any longer. Something about not being liberal enough and too middle class american. I’ll stay in the center and right now that’s where McCain is.
Posted by: Bob | May 29, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Tthe “white” priest is telling the truth.i am sure the “white” people who do love the truth and justice and who watched the video do not know what to think anymore. they think he is a sell out or a puppet. the man was just saying the truth.
Posted by: Hot4real | May 29, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
WOW.TELL ME WHO YOU ARE HANGING AROUND WITH AND I WILL TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE.
Posted by: thinkaboutit | May 29, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
BHO was in that church for 20 years… if you add that to the other characters he’s also fraternized (not just associated) with, it’s obvious what his feelings are.
If you sleep with dogs, you’re gonna get fleas.
Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
The “white” priest is telling the truth.i am sure the “white” people who do love the truth and justice and who watched the video do not know what to think anymore. they think he is a sell out or a puppet. the man was just saying the truth.
Posted by: Hot4real | May 29, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Who cares if Obama is African-American or Arab-American. We are ALL something-American. He quality leadership is why his is winning and Clinton is not.
When she thought she was “inevitable” he came from behind, got more votes and delegates than her when the public started seeing him and starting seeing her for who she truly is (and isn’t) Obama raised more money and out organized her. That’s the President I want. Sorry whites, I am a white 48 year old female, I voting Obama for all of our future.
Posted by: Pamela | May 29, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Well, another minister makes a complete fool of himself at Obama’s congregation. What else is new?
This priest should be disciplines by his bishop.
Posted by: Benjamin | May 29, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
What are you people doing stalking Obama’s church? He probably can’t go back there since all of the Rev. Wright mess. What difference does it make, Obama was not in the church when this was said. I don’t see where this is important to whether I can afford gas to go to work, so that I won’t need government assistance. WHO gives a —- what was said at church, besides these reporters who can afford to go buy gas!!
Posted by: Kimberly | May 29, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
What does a visiting pastor have to do with Obama’s views any more than Hagee have to do with McCain.
Posted by: David | May 29, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
The crowd of bloggers here are as riled up as the crowd at Trinity listening to Rev. Pleger.
It seems that is a unique quality of some preachers, Wright, Pleger, Hagee and Parsley, Falwell is to connect the dots in a way that gets people really worked up.
Posted by: Young Atheart | May 29, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
To JP re rally of 80,000 people: What the media neglected to report (since they’re in the tank for Obama) is that these young people came to hear a free concert in the park by a popular local band. After the band played, Obama took the stage. The media reported it as if 80,000 fans came specifically for Obama’s rally. That’s misleading.
Posted by: Juju | May 29, 2008 6:07:33 PM
No, what’s misleading is you suggesting that a small local band that nobody outside of Seattle has head of, or played to a crowd of more that a few hundred people drew 80,000 people all of the sudden. Ya, sure. It had nothing to do with Obama. Also, the crowd was not “Young people”. It was very diverse, kids to grandparents.
You just can’t handle the fact that Obama draws crowds that big and Hillary is lucky to get a thousand and McSame is lucky to get a few hundred white millionaire grandparents.
Posted by: JP | May 29, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
And the Truth will set you free… So lets continue to hear the Truth, we need to hear ALL the truth, nothing but the truth, so help me God!…. Obama will bring this nation down even further than Bush has…Unless we continue to hear the Truth…and folks start listening…..So far the Smarties in the DNC have and are continuing to outsmart themselves….Nothing But the Truth…..
Posted by: gcbfred | May 29, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Obama should just make another big tele-prompter speech.
Tell us all about how he never knew anything about any of these people.
Assure us again that he didn’t know Wright hated white people, or even knew ol’ Louis F. That they never in 20 years discussed race or politics.
Point out again that the only racist person he has ever been aware of was his grandmama.
That he didn’t know Ayers liked to blow stuff up.
Or that Tony liked to own people using terrorist money.
Nor the fact that Michelle had never been happy as an American.
Etc., Etc., Etc.
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I’m sure the Cardinal will have a few words for the priest given the rules prominently displayed throughout the Diocese regarding political statements.
If the guy wants to be a priest, he should preach, if he wants to be a political campaigner, take off the collar.
Loser 1 or Loser 2, which will it be?
Posted by: Jeff | May 29, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Kathy | May 29, 2008 6:32:14 PM
Black people voted 90% for Bill Clinton. Why is this fact so hard to understand? We don’t OWE anyone loyalty.
Posted by: Rita | May 29, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
@obama supporter,
you really are a bad example of an obama supporter. after reading your comments, it seems YOU don’t even buy the HOPE/CHANGE MANTRA of his.
actually, the hope and change message is always a good one.
but this time around the messenger is the wrong one.
i would rather have had jesse jackson jr.
or harold ford run for president.
there are many other black politicians
who are coming up through the ranks, doing good works, and adding to their political resume.
this forcing an unknown such as obama to us, is just like the bussing of the seventies.
it happened, but in the end neither side was served well.
and that is what obama coming out of the teachings we are finding out about him doing also.
he has divided the black community, and made everyone else only have more questions about him.
i keep telling my black brothers and sisters, “you making obama president, is not going to change your lot in life at all”
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
So … we have arrived at that place in our political history when people can say the most gawd-awful things … as long as they apologize later … these are Obama’s friends and long-time supporters .. and we had better be paying attention!!!!!!
Posted by: Jackson | May 29, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Sen. Obama has been a 20 year member of a black liberation theology church and this alone disqualifies him for the position of President. Black Liberation Theology believes that Jesus was a black man killed by white “garlic nosed” Italians (Europeans) and that God is either for black people or he should be killed. It is anti-white and anti-American and Obama should not be eligible for security clearances nevermind be given responsibility for our military and nuclear arsenal. He is an extremely dangerous man. Thank God that Sen. Clinton has been strong enough to continue to fight for the nomination and thank you WV, KY and SD, MT, and PR. You are the ones who are making the case that you don’t want a radical anti-American as president, but you would like to get out of Iraq. Vote Hillary, please. God Bless you, and God bless America.
Posted by: seattlegonz | May 29, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I have worked hard for everything I have.
I have never had a sense of entitlement.
I have always had a sense of service.
I do not think that one should have to feel ashamed of their own race in order to appreciate and value others.
If the truth is that others hate me for things that I cannot control and working hard to make a living, that’s their problem, not mine.
As far as I know in this country one is entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Stop blaming those of us who take initiative!!!
Posted by: L.A.O. | May 29, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
That’s it. I’m out. I never thought that the democrats could screw this up so much.
Posted by: Amazed | May 29, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Hey Jock…true, he attracted approx 80,000 in Oregon. He was in Las Vegas 3 days ago and attracted 60. What happened ??
Posted by: roger king | May 29, 2008 6:16:18 PM
It’s called a private fundraiser that is closed to the public. Obama has sat with as little as FOUR people. Hillary won’t show up unless there’s hundreds and they donate to her campaign.
Now who is more in-touch with the average American?
Posted by: JP | May 29, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
I can’t believe how the media treats this phony with kid gloves. Barack Obama was raised a Muslim by his father and step father, he mother was an atheist . Obama decided when he was married to Michelle that it would look better for his political future to start attending a so called “Christian” church. The famous Rev. Wright was also a Muslim and so are most all of Obama’s shady Chicago contributors. Something is just not right with this man…I still to this day can’t get over him being friends with William Ayers, the weatherman terrorist and working on his foundation for years. Why would he associate with these type of people if he didn’t have the same beliefs? Why is the DNC pushing this unqualified candidate on us? Something is very wrong and for the first time in my voting life
I think I going to sit this one out or vote for McCain if its Obama.
Posted by: josephine | May 29, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
You are free to leave the country…
But, if you choose to stay here, senator Obama will not only be your president, but the president of all the people of America….like it or not…
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
black people and white people voted for bill clinton because of the plain and detailed message of what was wrong and how he would fix it. and he did. there is no disputing many, many black people faired well under a bill clinton presidency.
black people voting in droves for obama, are voting for the personality and because of race.
and if he get in, it will be the black people who will be the first to rise up against him.
the good thing about it, is they will not be able to blame sen. clinton for obama’ downfall.
he is underqualfied,
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
DISGUSTING. Barack Obama is dangerous for this country. HE NEEDS TO DROP OUT NOW.
Posted by: mjr17 | May 29, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
A pretty insensitive thing to talk about in a church – which should remain apolitical. Sermonize about values, not specific people. That being said, perhaps there’s a tiny grain of truth to what he was saying, and that’s why it makes us so uncomfortable.
Posted by: Might be Milo | May 29, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Barack did not attract 80,000 people in Oregon. I have friends who live there and they reported that the crowds were there to see the band “decemberist (sp?) and Obama showed up to give a short speech. You Obama people have to quit your love affair and face reality at some point in time
Posted by: josephine | May 29, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008 5:01:03 PM
we are headed back to the times of claudine.
welfare lines, foodstamps,
That would be because of Bush and the Republicans policies for the last 6 years. It’ll take more than a couple of months to clean up this pig sty.
Posted by: Rita | May 29, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
This guy is a huge racist creep. How could Obama stand to even talk to this guy.
Final straw for Obama
Posted by: John | May 29, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I’m starting to lose track of all of Obama’s extremist associates and mentors. The common thread among them all seems to be a hatred of America.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
THIS IS SHOCKING:
“Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs”
HOW DARE BARACK OBAMA DIRECT MONEY TO SOCIAL PROGRAMS… THATS NOT HOW YOU MAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR OFFICE…
SURELY THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BETTER BEEN SERVED BEING DIRECTED AT OIL COMPAINES OR OTHER MULTI NATIONALS COPERATIONS…THATS HOW YOU GET THE KICKBACKS..
DIRECTING MONEY TO HELP POOR PEOPLE JUST WHO DOES THAT OBAMA THINK HE IS ???
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Does the DNC really think Obama is our best shot against McCain? Come on, get with it! No one will vote for Obama after all these racist ties.
Posted by: Gene | May 29, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
HELP! I voted for Obama in Vermont and I am so sickened about what has become of him. First Rev. Wright and now this? I used to think that Sen. Obama was the future of this country. But as time rolls on I have begun to realize how very wrong I was. What have I done? I feel duped. And humiliated. I know he will probably win the nomination…but I just can’t vote for him a second time.
Posted by: buyer's remorse | May 29, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Obama is the most Christian like candidate we have.
Go Obama.
Obama is winning!!!!! Praise God!
Posted by: Sharon | May 29, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Josephine, That’s simply incorrect. I know many people who were at that rally and press and police counts almost always underestimate numbers – they don’t inflate them.
Posted by: Mara | May 29, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I support Obama, but I didn’t return my last library book on time. FOX News is now running a story against me.
Posted by: Terence Poole | May 29, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
“Aberham Lincoln”. Nice touch.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
For the first time, as a white American, I am truly scared for Obama to become President.
Posted by: StandUp | May 29, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
All of Obama’s friends are:
Muslims
Terrorists
Racists
Anti-American
or Michelle Obama, she is a combination of most of the above!
Posted by: JP | May 29, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
This is stupifying! What next? The media sure has vetted this canadate!He has lied continually, allowed his followers to do his campaign dirty work, and sit back and blame everyone else for his shortcomings and associations. And ,please. Read his book. Uncle Wright taught him everything he knows. He’s beginning to look like Bush. Arrogant. Talk about entitlement! Martin Luther King must be spinning in his grave.You can thank the spring break crowd for this mess.
Posted by: Bea | May 29, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
The Obama’s are NO christians!!!!! No Believer in Christ would stand for such hateful sermons and pastors!!!!!
Wolfs in sheeps clothing!
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 29, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
The Democrats should have went with Darla and are now stuck with Buckwheat.
Posted by: JP | May 29, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
The more I hear about this guy and his supporters, the more I want to run in the opposite direction. Anyone but Obama, please.
Posted by: C. Higman | May 29, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
toyin,
you are voting on your emotions, because
if you had been voting on the issues,
you would have gone for sen. clinton,
and stop dogging her.
obama is just a copier.
obama has not done anything for the black community that did not benefit him more that it did the community.
registering people to vote when you are planning to run for office, is very self serving.
i just people would admit it
they voted for obama:
just to vote AGAINST sen. clinton
just because he was black
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I cannot wait till President McCain attend the UN security meetings. We will be so proud of him……hey world look, that is our President.
Posted by: Toyin | May 29, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Why is it a candidate who has run on a platform of unity, hope and change has to persist in excusing those with whom he associates, up to and including preachers and priests? And why do those same preachers and priests persist in spreading divisiveness and hatred? Why do you, Rev. Moss and Father Pfleger, want to paint me as a racist because I was born Caucasian, and as someone who somehow feels ‘entitled.’ Am I ‘entitled’ because I work each day to make enough to live on and get through the day. I represent ‘typical’ white America, and I have NOTHING against anyone working hard to better themselves and I am so ****** tired of being told otherwise. It seems to me BO and MO are certainly far more ‘entitled’ than I, as are plenty of other folks, white and black! I’ve never lived in a $300,000+ house, nor have I ever had an income(nor will I ever have an income)of $4.2 million dollars in one year.
Seems TUCC is plenty fancy also, from what I could see…
HRC has worked hard for what she has. She was not born with a silver spoon in her mouth and if the folks at TUCC want to believe she was, that is their problem!
Posted by: Justmy.02 | May 29, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
HILLARY SUPPORTERS UNITE!
Vote a solid Republican ticket in 2008. Show the DNC, Howard Dean, Nancy Pilosi and Harry Reid that the loyal base of the Democratic party will NOT be disrespected.
This so-called priest can join the not-so Reverend Wright and line up right behind Obama and come November the only blue state will be Illinois.
Bring it on all you nut-cases. You’re outing your man Obama and showing him that he’s as crazy as the rest of you.
MCCAIN ’08–HILLARY 2012!
Posted by: Truth Be Told | May 29, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I see Obama losing in the general elction, then we Americans will say to the world……see we voted against him because of his church. So much for democracy, we vote on race, church, patriotism, guns and church. When Obama loses, Americans will realise how stupid they are.
Posted by: Toyin | May 29, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Obama plays dirty all the while pretending he doesn’t. He has constantly been picking on McCain for the last two weeks. Today he jumped on McCain about a 527 to try and divert some of the attention from his latest church problem. This is just going to be a terrible campaign. At least with Hillary, McCain and she would be civil and we wouldn’t have to listen to all the mudslinging. I thought Obama was a different kind of politician. He is and, frankly, he is worse.
Posted by: Susan | May 29, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
He’s absolutely right about why she cried. There is no question in my mind that she cried because she was basically outraged that she was losing a race she believed she was entitled to win.
And as a Chicagoan, I must tell you that the priest in question is a very good man who speaks out against injustice and has done much more good than Hillary could ever dream of.
Posted by: Der Bingle | May 29, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
U.S. documents proving
POW McCain seriously “collaborated” . . . listed below are 5 transcripts of approximately 20 interviews McCain gave the communist
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
A lot more White people will cry when McCain is President Reverend pfleger
Posted by: Toyin | May 29, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Well, all these pastors can finally go to heaven because Obama is paying for their sins.
Posted by: Young Atheart | May 29, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Once again, this is Obama and his followers’ version of the truth……
They honestly do believe every word of what this guy said…..that Hillary was actually thinking those thoughts about “entitlement,” and that’s why she was crying.
Just like they believed she actually meant for harm to come to Obama with her RFK reference, when she never even mentioned his name.
Posted by: SandyB | May 29, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Channel 7, the ABC affiliate in Chicago, just led its 6 o’clock news with this story. I hadn’t actually viewed the video — it’s MUCH worse to see it on video than just to read the narrative.
The reporter said Pfleger may comment tomorrow; today he was recovering from a doctor’s appointment or something along those lines. (My husband said, ‘yeah, he’s getting help for getting his foot out of his mouth.”)
Posted by: beth | May 29, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
GAS,…..IRAQ,….EDUCATION,….HOMES,…ECONOMY,…..HEALTHCARE,…. These are the issues that concern me, and should concern all of the public. If ABC gave a rat’s behine about their public they would focusing more on that kind of things, rather than this type of bullcrap!!!!!!!!!!! This type of crap is just too keep up some type of confusion, as to ruin Obama’s election!!!! What do y’all want now an apology?
Posted by: Kimberly | May 29, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Now, Many people want to be Obama’s side.
I maybe change my mind and switch to Obama’s side.
Posted by: helen | May 29, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
You truly have to wonder about Obama’s character when he choses a church like that–and listens to those kind of sermons for 20 years.
Obama chose this pastor as a spiritual counselor and recently had Pfleger campaigning for him in Iowa.
Obama is either really stupid, or simply doesn’t care–who he associates with. He will simply distance himself and people will forgive him once again.
Just like Wright, Moss, Ayers,Rezko, we are warned again about Obama’s character and judgement. He is unfit to lead this country.
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 29, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
HILLARY AND OBAMA SHARE 99.9% OF THEIR POLICY
HILARY AND JOHN MCCAIN SHARE 2.0%
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Hey Nat Turner,
How does Africa handle it’s “politics”. It’s a much scarier thought for the world to follow the model of tribal African.
Posted by: JA | May 29, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Now, Many people want to be Obama’s side.
I maybe change my mind and switch to Obama’s side because he has power now.
Posted by: Hellen | May 29, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hillary cried because couldn’t get her way. The Democratic Party is a close group. They know how the Clinton’s operate underhandedly so that is why they know first hand who the better leader is which is Obama. Obama treat them and everyone he comes in contact with respect. Like a true Christian that he is.
Posted by: John | May 29, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Ok, may be it’s just me, but what was so offensive with that video? I actually even enjoyed it! Are we not allowed to have our own opinions that may be contrary to others? I am a 51 year old white male. NOT offended by any thing that I have seen come out of Obama’s Church. But am greatly offended by almost every thing that comes out of Hillary Clinton’s mouth!
This guilt by association thing needs to stop! We can be associated with many people who have a wide range of opinions. SO what? Is that not what makes America great?
Obama 2008!
Posted by: IndieVisible | May 29, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Don’t blame obama. He has never heard these kinds of comments from his friends and his pastors (new and old). He doesn’t know how his friends and pastors feel. If you keep talking about his associations, he’ll have to make a another speech. I don’t know if I can listen to another race speech. (eechh…)
Posted by: hannah | May 29, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
It is really amazing that in this day and age such a huge economic power as the United States of America still has a third world paralysis of religious,racial and economic bigots in it`s political leadership.
Whilst the stakes are high in running for the Presidency surely an honest, statesmanlike approach will win the day. If you can clean up the crooked banking system which fuels itself on automatic bonus payments despite poor results & corruption, allow your citizens the benefit of belief in their own gods & cultures without discrimination you will all benefit. For goodness sake grow up and throw away the `race card` baggage onto history`s rubbish tip. Everyone has the same opportunity these days if they bother to put in the effort…no more `positive discrimination`for anyone as this just divides the community.
Lastly, please up-date the Constitution which drags at your heels all the time. Much like we here in Britain suffer from E.U. `Human Rights` legislation preventing us from ejecting convicted terrorists. We are in the process now of clearing away the age-old “Class System” political baggage finally being recognised by the Labour Party here as a huge anchor to our nation`s progress. Good luck to both our countries` progress this century !!
Posted by: G.coops | May 29, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
HOW WEAK ARE YOU PERSON ???
YOU HAVE TO USE MY NAME BECAUSE THE FUTURE IS CLEAR OBAMA WILL 44TH POTUS
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Alex H. GREAT POST. You had me laugh so hard coke went up my nose. I laughed, but really it’s not joke. RIP is right. RIP America, I am afraid. We are doomed.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 29, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Does this guy have any nice friends? Even his supporters are rude. One thing this election has taught me; the far left are as dangerous as the far right.
Nancy Pelossi said today the superdelegats should not overturn the will of the people. Since more people have voted for Hillary, i’d say that would be her.
Posted by: rob | May 29, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Uh oh. Here comes the bus for you to get under, Father Pfleger.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
This is it for me. I dismissed Rev. Wright and said to myself that Senator Obama is different. I dismissed Bill Ayers and believe that Senator Obama must be different. I dismissed his wife’s comments, Michelle Obama, and convinced myself that she said those regrettable words out of sympathy, love and support of her husband. But this last one did it for me. Not only does this Michael Pfleger make fun of Senator Clinton (she is a big girl and she can deal with this mockery), but he also accuses all white folks of benefiting from slavery and Jim Crow laws regardless their background. This is a clear language that argues for reparations and guilt on part of millions of good Americans who have done nothing. Are we going to vote for Obama because we feel ashamed and guilty? I don’t feel ashamed nor do i feel guilty.
Folks, there is way too much smoke to deny that there is a fire burning somewhere. I just can’t dismiss this last video and his endorsement that Obama welcomed, and now, he surprisingly and hypocritically rejects.
Posted by: Patrick O'Shanahan | May 29, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Rita……If you and other blacks don’t feel you owe anyone loyalty, then why should anyone consider you or your people when decisions are to be made? You don’t amount to more than 11% of americans and far less than that impact on the economy. So maybe you and your black candidate should just shut to hell up.
If you think Obama can be president without the white vote or Michgan or Florida or Hispanics, your a fool.
Posted by: Kathy | May 29, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Seems to me that Mr. Obama has many radical friends. Stanley Kurtz, writes Inside Obama’s ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) Along with the reservoir of political support that came to Obama through his close ties with Jeremiah Wright, Father Micheal Pfleger, and other Chicago black churches, Chicago ACORN appears to have played a major role in Obama’s political advance.
Posted by: jp,michigan | May 29, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Hey, I mock Clinton’s “tears” too. They were cynical and applied as needed. In a whisky-drinking state she becomes a whisky drinker. In a beer making state she pretends she always drinks beer. God knows what would happen if a state was known for incest. In a world full of manipulative politicians she is one of the most phony I have ever seen.
Posted by: Cartier boy | May 29, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Jake – you are the only media person – aside from Fox – to have the guts to let all sides of a story out. Just read about Axelrod and his parents connections to left wing radicals. As a Jewish person, can’t bring myself to actually vote for Obama. Nothing to do with his color – more with the company he keeps. Thanks for putting the news out there.
Posted by: Lisa S | May 29, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Another disgusting creepy Obama-person. What on earth goes on in that church? And why should they be tax-exempted anyway? If I were a superdelegate I would change my vote. (One of them did today, went back to Hillary.) There will be no end to these rabble-rousers who believe any ugliness is OK if it elects Obama. Woman-hating and race-baiting are their tactics. Supers, end this now, and change your vote!
Posted by: purespringwater | May 29, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Hey Obama if you are so much against this kind of decisiveness, then why were you a member of the church for so long? Strange!
Posted by: Watson | May 29, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Obama will be our President and will unite. I know it’s hard for all of you with those logs in your eyes but peace and unity is in America’s future with Obama presiding. Let anyone who reads this see that positive thinking resounds.
Posted by: Andy | May 29, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I listened to this man’s sermon. This has nothing to do with the gospel. The gospel is really ‘good news’. God is a God of love and forgiveness. Racial hatred, no matter what color is wrong. I’m sick to death of the pulpits being used in this manner. The true gospel message brings hope to people, and builds faith.
Posted by: Chris | May 29, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
It’s one thing if it’s a one-off case of guilt by association of someone you are merely friendly with.
But the problem with Obama is exacerbated by the folliwing:
1. Two of the “curious” comments by people are from a pastor and spiritual advisor of 20 years, and the other from his wife.
2. The number of people with such “curious” affiliations grows by the month.
If you are surrounding yourself by racists, anti-Americans, terrorist sympathesizers, etc., it soon does cast doubt on your character, and justifiably so.
To the person who said that we are voting based on 3rd world politics, your comment is absurd. You include in your list that people take patriotism into consideration. Would you really want to elect to be the head of your country someone who dislikes your country? Furthermore, we are asked to vote for Obama based on his character and good judgment since he has no record on which to stand (actually, his record looks quite mediocre).
So the question is, if we are unable to pin down Obama’s policies since he won’t give details – or when he does, he gives us ridiculous policies which he later “refines” (aka flip flops on) – what else are we to judge this man on?
Posted by: JA | May 29, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
I wonder if Dean, Pilosi and Reid know about this? Hmmmm. Seems to me that the Presumptive Candidate of the Democratic Party may well be their worst nightmare.
I’m a Democrat who voted for Hillary and I’m about ready to hold my nose and vote for McCain in November.
DNC…you just lost my vote.
Posted by: Da Man | May 29, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
JP: I don’t even believe there was 40,000 people there. Maybe about 30,000 to 35,000. The media always builds his rally up to thousands more than what were there to make the publie believe he is a drawing card. Obama draws mainly the younger crowd but all are not going to vote for him. Some are just
want to hear what he says. I understand he won’t win Puerto Rico and if everthing goes well hopefully he won’t win SD.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 29, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Ok I saw the video, so what? I enjoyed it almost as much as I enjoyed watching Rev Wright. I was not offended by either. I am a 51 year old white male, and for the life of me can not figure out what all the fuss is about. I thought people are entitled to their opinions and free speech. Is that not what makes America so great?
And just for the record, I agree with the Priest! Seriously, all you anti Obama folks think this is some thing? This is nothing. Stop this insane guilt by association trip lest you also want to be included. And that was what Father Pfleger was really talking about. I guess some times the truth hurts?
Posted by: NoMoreLies | May 29, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Please stop the stupid. It hurts.
You can’t judge a candidate by their supporters. You just can’t. Every candidate, without exception, is supported by unpleasant idiotic people (heck, just look at the comments here!). You can’t even judge them by their associates without taking into account the context. Was Obama joining Pfelger in mocking Clinton, or did he work with Pfelger on social programs? If you get some footage of Obama joining Pfelger in mocking Clinton, then that’s relevant. Otherwise, you’ve got some guy mocking Clinton. I can find you thousands more of those on the internet if you like.
What you can do is judge the candidate by what THEY do. So what’s Obama take on this?
“As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.”
Yeah, I’m not having big problems with that.
So can we cut the guilt-by-association crap and focus on what the candidates themselves say and do?
Posted by: Aengil | May 29, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Oh Lord, here comes more days of non-issue discussion. Forget about Iraq, a faltering economy, global warming, and all of those issues, it’s time for the “Let’s See If We Can Blame Obama” show again.
Give me a break. It is a non-issue.
Posted by: james | May 29, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
So apparently Pfleger wrote to say that “I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”
“IF they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else”???
Gee, why would Senator Clinton (or anyone else) be offended just because you called her a racist, mocked her in front of a church, and said she thought she was entitled by her whiteness to the nomination?
Is there an unknown part of the Bible on the evil of Hillary Clinton? This church seems to spend an awful lot of sermons on it.
Posted by: Steve | May 29, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Rev Wright was the Preist choose by Hillar and Bill Clinton to save there Mariage!
HILLAY AND BILL ARE STILL TOGETHER BECAUSE OF REV WRIGHT !!
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
This couldn’t come at a better time to tick off all Hillary supporters even more….which is why SHE WILL SUSPEND HER CAMPAIGN UNTIL AUGUST AND SIT BACK AND WATCH…WHY NOT?
She has the leverage of 17 million supporters that are more behind her everyday. They think we are bluffing…come Nov. they will see it’s no bluff.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
JP,
“No, what’s misleading is you suggesting that a small local band that nobody outside of Seattle has head of, or played to a crowd of more that a few hundred people drew 80,000 people all of the sudden. Ya, sure. It had nothing to do with Obama. Also, the crowd was not “Young people”. It was very diverse, kids to grandparents.”
Thank you. I’ve been meaning to respond to that dumbness the Hillary Clinton people keep posting. They seem very jealous, don’t they. Oops, don’t mean to stereotype the whole bitter group.
I saw some of them claim that it was only the weather that brought 80,000 people out to hear Obama that day. Yeah, right…
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Hope | May 29, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Obama was only 46 years old when the Father said those things. They’ve only been BFF for a few years now.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Hey Obama if you are so much against this kind of decisiveness, then why were you a member of this church for so long?
Posted by: Watson | May 29, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
AWE, POOR HILLARY
Posted by: CROC TEARS | May 29, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Vanessa…I hope YOU CRY when your boy loses in November.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
David HUSSEIN Alexander RIGHT ON !
THIS IS SHOCKING:
“Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs”
HOW DARE BARACK OBAMA DIRECT MONEY TO SOCIAL PROGRAMS… THATS NOT HOW YOU MAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR OFFICE…
SURELY THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BETTER BEEN SERVED BEING DIRECTED AT OIL COMPAINES OR OTHER MULTI NATIONALS COPERATIONS…THATS HOW YOU GET THE KICKBACKS..
DIRECTING MONEY TO HELP POOR PEOPLE JUST WHO DOES THAT OBAMA THINK HE IS ???
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Watson:
if you do not agree with a lot of the things said in the United States, then why are you still a citizen?
No matter where people go, others will not always agree……
Are there not folks right in your own family that you don’t agree with everything?
Stop complaining so much, man…..
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Are there any respectable, decent people in Obama’s close circle of friends?
Because if there are, I haven’t seen any. He has surrounded himself with society’s worst.
I’m still waiting for the “Oba”media to finally do an expose on David Axelrod, who himself is a real shady and despicable person. He’s the kind of guy who gets paid millions of dollars to propagandize millions of people into believing that its a good thing when energy companies screw them. He’s the kind of guy who has a special needs child who needs round the clock care, but he gets paid millions of dollars to create front groups who’s sole mission is to make sure that needy children who are poor are refused the care they need.
Look it up!
Posted by: OxyCon | May 29, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
And it just keeps getting better and better .
I’m beginning to believe that the repubs actually exists of the tape of Michelle Obama talking about “whitey”.
Good job Dems…you certainly know how to pick them.
Posted by: Beverly Garrett | May 29, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Fr. Michael Phleger should keep his piehole shut! Organized religions help to promote hate, fear & wars. That is why I choose to be spiritual, rather than religious. His outburst is a prime example of why there should be separation between church & state. If ANYONE feels “entitled” to be president, it is the WHITE (usually rich and/or Republican) MALE. This is the ONLY profile ALL of our presidents have had in common. If anyone can refute this, then BRING IT ON!!!! I dare you!!!!!!
Posted by: democratcat | May 29, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Obama not only hangs out with some creepy people.He is one of them.
Posted by: GDC | May 29, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
You people sicken me almost as much as Hillary Clinton……you elected Bush twice and now you’ll blow your only chance at redemption by picking McCain over Obama. Don’t say I didn’t warn you…you’ll get what’s coming and you’ll all deserve it. I’m so glad I don’t live there!!!
Posted by: harry vest | May 29, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
People, Former Press Secretary just
went on public and disclosed all the
misleading and cover-up of this administration. We went to war, and have
spent over 1 trillion dollars, thousands
of soldiers have died, CIA valerie’s
career was ruined because of incomplete
lack of integrity, honor and honesty of
this administration. And you are debating over a angry priest who feels
entitled to make general racial remarks.
Do you know how much more disillusioned you sound than the Priest’s remarks?.
We need to learn to digest the media better, we don’t have a choice on how
they prioritize real issues, but we
have a choice on what to tune in and tune out.
Posted by: Pascuala Brownlee | May 29, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
shalom:
Shalom is for peace and harmony……
Those nasty things you said does not reflect me….Shalom.
Shalom for Obama in 2008!!!!
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I keep hearing the political masterminds talking about the democratic party coming together this fall. I just don’t see it happening myself. Middle of the road people don’t like to have something or someone shoved down their throat. With all of the information coming out about Obama it greatly bothers me that it’s more important to grab the presidency than do what is good for the country. We democrats have lost our focus and direction. I want my president to be principled and of good character. Just because you are a slick poitican and know the right things to say doesn’t excuse you from being honest and forth right. I just don’t see that in Mr. Obama. I just see a fake smile and a very cold calculating politican that will attempt to pass through any legislation promoted by the far left regardless of the consequences. We can’t afford all these bailout programs and going off half cocked with the problems we are facing. It’s looks to me like all we are going to see is more dirty politics and control by special interest groups who’s agenda is to steer us into serious misnomers that we can ill afford all for the purpose of profit making and power grabbing. The disenfranchised will stay that way unless there is a buck to be made. Don’t kid yourself into thinking the far left has your problems in mind. Do you see the 9th ward being rebuilt? Do people have healthcare? Are we really taking care of our veterans? The democratic congress hasn’t done a thing except use their majority to try and beat the republicans any way they can. They are so busy adding ear marks in the middle of the night and promoting policy that has no earthly reason to be enacted except to overpower the other party that they don’t have time to think about real problems much less solve them. That’s the reason that the approval rating of these loons is approaching 20%. We are in serious trouble because we are depending on people to float us that don’t even live on the same planet. If we don’t get some honest politicans in office soon, we may not be able to fix it where its broke.
Posted by: James France | May 29, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Lisa S…I can’t stand Axlerod, even more than Obama.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
It would have been nice if you had pointed out Father P. is white.
Posted by: Benjamin | May 29, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
When not busy with histrionics and third-rate showmanship, perhaps Father Pfleger could make time to watch a few episodes of “Da Ali G Show”. Sasha Baron Cohen perfectly lampooned the idiocy of white people pretending to be black.
Whatever impact the association has upon the Obama campaign, Father Pfleger is, at the very least, a complete embarrassment to himself. What is that facial expression all about? He look like he’s trying very hard to keep a quarter nestled between his butt cheeks.
We tell our good-at-heart children that they shouldn’t hang around with the mean kids, for fear that they’ll get dragged down to their level.
The same maxim should be offered to Barack Obama. You are the most able and well-rounded presidential candidate seen in a very long time. The country sorely needs your brand of intelligence, level-headnesses and inclusiveness in the White House. However, for the sake of of your own chances and out of respect for the millions who wish to see you fulfill you’re potential, you’ve simply got to put a chasm between yourself and these rabid religious nut jobs.
Posted by: esiom | May 29, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
See, this video of a pastor saying these things should not be much news….
The real news are the comments and book by Scott McClellan….
Some Obama opponent is trying to knock the real news off the air, right?
But, I am really glad that an insider have exposed this administration.
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Oh look another person, who is not McCain, Clinton or Obama, said something stupid.
Why is this news again?
Then again, what else should I expect from ABC? It’s not like the MSM actually does any legitimate reporting anymore.
Posted by: Russ | May 29, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Pelosi Drank the koolaide.
She thinks she is God Now!
Be very afraid
Posted by: seah | May 29, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Just when most people in this country have finally come to realize that racism is nothing but pure and unadulterated ignorance and want to put this kind of hatred behind us, Obama and his religious leaders strive to renew racial tension in this country! Electing Obama as president will guarantee very serious new racial problems in the United States. You can count on this!! I really did not want to have another Republican president after the last eight years of presidential lies and deception, but if I have to choose between Obama or McCain, I will vote McCain without a doubt. I encourage others to consider doing so also!
Posted by: Idahoveterinarian | May 29, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Ok I saw the video, so what? I enjoyed it almost as much as I enjoyed watching Rev Wright. I was not offended by either. I am a 51 year old white male, and for the life of me can not figure out what all the fuss is about. I thought people are entitled to their opinions and free speech. Is that not what makes America so great?
And just for the record, I agree with the Priest! Seriously, all you anti Obama folks think this is some thing? This is nothing. Stop this insane guilt by association trip lest you also want to be included. And that was what Father Pfleger was really talking about. I guess some times the truth hurts?
Posted by: NoMoreLies | May 29, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
shalom:
senator Obama will also be your president, Buckwheat….
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
I can now see why he wants to sit down with our enemies. He is one of them.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Damn.
Get over it folks! Pick up yourselves and STOP BLAMING others!
What angry people. What a bunch of whiners.
Listen to what Bill Cosby says. Be responsible for yourself and stop blaming society. I don’t care what color you are!
Now, LET ME EAT MY WAFFLES!
Posted by: DanDan | May 29, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Kate:
Thanks for being an Obama supporter
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I have a question for my fellow Americans who are black:
Let’s just say that hypothetically this preacher stuff really starts to affect the national campaign… and let’s just say that it is revealed (somehow) that Obama has been following this divisive rhetoric for years. Do you think most of his African Americans voters will turn their backs on him in disgust?
Posted by: trustthesky | May 29, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
That’s what they teach on this church? hatred? Obama is a member of this church for 20 years.
Mr. Obama don’t say you’re not aware again of what this pastor friend of yours said.
Posted by: giz | May 29, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Shalom:
If my brother was a racist I wouldn’t vote for him for President. That’s why I’m not voting for Obama.
Posted by: Watson | May 29, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
He just put a down payment on the mansion next door to Reverand Wright. Hate pays.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
What i don’t understand is when these people–Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and this idiot Pfleger–endorsed Senator Obama, we heard that they were his friends, people of great wisdom and his spiritual mentors and he has known them for 20 years. I mean Obama must know that his friends are a bunch of wackos extremists and he still consider them spiritual mentors. It’s like as if i say “well, Zarkawi is a wacko, but he is my spiritual mentor.” Do you even know what a spiritual mentor mean? It means every time you are a conflicted situation where your conscience is questioned and challenged, you call on these guys for advice and guidance. Is Obama going to call on Father Pfleger and Rev. Wright and Mess? What guidance are they going to give him?
Is Obama now going to tell us that he does not know anything about these guys too? Come on, this is like that kid who kept crying wolf.
Posted by: Rob Sparks | May 29, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
this is old news about Fr. Pfleger. Here is a post from April 1, 2008. Rev. Wright visited St. Sabina’s church and was honored by Fr. Pflegler. The occasion was the birthday of Maya Angelou.
Wright’s Visit to Pfleger Was No Surprise
Rev. Wright made a surprise appearance to give the benediction at a Chicago area Catholic church over the weekend. But was it a surprise?
Wright, who was invited by the Rev. Michael Pfleger, gave the benediction at a church event to honor the 80th birthday of poet, Maya Angelou. Pfleger, an avid supporter of Senator Barack Obama said of Wright, “ I wanted him to come tonight as a guest because he loves Dr. Angelou and I wanted him to see the love of people for him, so when I asked him about coming he said he’s be honored to come and it was a blessing for us to have him here.” According to Pfleger, “America unfortunately has been really cheated of knowing the real Dr. Wright.”
Pfleger is not a stranger to the happenings in Chicago land churches. He has come under fire for his invitations of Louis Farrakhan to speak at his church, St. Sabina’s. The Rev. Pfleger told his congregation in May of 2007 that Farrakhan’s presence at St. Sabina’s is “only strange to people who don’t know Minister Louis Farrakhan. He’s spoken here many times and St. Sabina is a home for Louis Farrakhan.” He concluded his comments by calling Farrakhan a “gift from God to a sick, sick world.”
Several weeks after Farrakhan’s visit, Pfleger co-hosted an anti-gun rally with the Jesse Jackson lead Rainbow/Push coalition to combat the recent rash of gun crime in Chicago. Looking to incite the crowd, Father Pflegler shouted, “we’re going to snuff out John Riggio (a local gunshop owner), we’re going to snuff out legislators that are voting … against our gun laws and we’re coming for you because we are not going to sit idly.” When asked for clarification of his comments, Pflegler’s spokesperson said, “I’ve never heard that compared before with the word murder,” Clark said. “He [Pfleger] was never aware of that. If that was the case he would never have used that language.” After a complete investigation of the matter, Cardinal Francis George of the Archdiocese of Chicago, who has clashed with Father Pflegler over everything from doctrine to politics, remarked, ““Publicly delivering a threat against anyone’s life betrays the civil order and is morally outrageous, especially if this threat came from a priest.”
Apparently delivering a threat, supporting an anti-semite, supporting a pro-abortion politician and making threats of murder are just a day in the life of Father Michael Pfleger. So was it really a surprise that Rev. Wright showed up to a cheering throng of Farrakhan supporters.
Happy Birthday, Dr. Angelou, you deserved so much better.
.
Posted by: countallthevotes | May 29, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Barack Obama’s favorability ratings among white women have declined significantly in recent months, particularly among Democrats and independents, presenting an immediate obstacle for the likely Democratic nominee as he moves to shore up his party’s base.
According to a new report by The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, half of white women now have a negative perception of Obama.
Forty-nine percent of white women view Obama unfavorably, while only 43 percent hold a favorable opinion. In February, 36 percent of these women viewed Obama unfavorably, while 56 percent had a positive perception of the likely Democratic nominee.
Over the same period, Democratic white women’s negative view of Obama increased from 21 percent to 35 percent, while their positive view decreased from 72 percent to 60 percent — roughly the same rate as white women overall.
Posted by: shalom | May 29, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Let’s see…out of a population of 200+ million, I’m sure the ‘racist’ statistics are relatively low compared to racism occuring larger continents such as Asia, Africa, etc. Move on people!
Posted by: YadaYadaYada | May 29, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy. Iraq and the economy.
See you all in November.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | May 29, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Yeah…former Dem…I was one of those white middle aged women who turned Oprah off after her endorsement. Financially it won’t hurt her, but her popularity is way down when she chose skin color over gender. She’s a full of herself bore now.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Reef seems to think this is useless reporting…
Of course Reef only feels that way when it shows Obama in a negative light…I wonder why CNN and MSNBC do not have the story out…Lord knows if it was something negative on Clinton or McCain it would be on the front page!
What has happened to Obama’s Uncle? Oh…I mean his Great Uncle who liberated Auschwitz when he was in the Army? Oh…I mean the one who liberated a different camp…what difference does it make…they are all the same anyway. Oops…another goof…he was in the Navy and really didn’t liberate anyone…
It is a crying shame how much this man lies…
Obama = the ultimate PANDERER and Dirty politician….
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 29, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
PEOPLE HERE HAVE NO *CLUE* WHO FATHER PFLEGER IS.
I’ll tell you. He’s a Catholic priest who has spent most of his life and career in depressed AA communities, fighting to prevent gang violence, drugs, drug paraphernalia, and even CIGARETTES from destroying young AA lives – and when NO ONE else cared. When NO ONE would lift a finger to do ANYTHING. Even when THREATENED BY GANGS, he has shown REAL courage, unlike anything anyone shows here. Face it – it’s more than YOU would do. And deep down, you know it.
Posted by: Kate L | May 29, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Obama sat in this churches’ pew for twenty years and was indoctinated into this value system. There is no way he can stop believing this type of propaganda. It borders on Black Muslim beliefs. I know, because 25 years ago I attended a service with one of my friends and I swore I would never go back. Just because this guy was white, it is the belief of the teachings Obama has picked up that is disturbing. This is going to blow up in Obamas face.
Posted by: Lois, California | May 29, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
THE PRIEST’S STATEMENT IS SO TYPICAL OF THE SMALL-HEARTED AND MEAN-SPIRITED OBAMA CAMP. WHETHER OBAMA LEARNS FROM SMALL MEN LIKE HIS GOOD FRIEND PRIEST OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND IS ANY ONE’S GUESS. BUT THEY JUST PROVE THAT “BIRDS OF ONE FEATHER, GATHER TOGETHER.”
IF OBAMA ENGAGES IN THIS KIND OF SMALL-HEARTED-AND-MEAN-SPIRITED ATTACKS WHEN HE CONDUCTS FOREIGN POLICES, GOD HELP AMERICA AS BUSH’S OFFENSES TO THE WORLD WILL BE SHADOWED BY THIS PALTRY DISPLAY OF PURPOSELESS MALICE.
Posted by: harvie | May 29, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Obama leads whites who have ‘white guilt’.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 29, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Say HALLELUJAH BROTHER!
If not Hillary, vote for Ron Paul!
Posted by: Mickey | May 29, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
I am 51 years old and when I look back over my life, I can’t find anyone equal
to these characters. My Episcopalian priests were normal people as were their children who I went to school with. Besides some minor traffic infractions, I do not know anyone who has had run ins with the law. My friendships have expanded across race and yet I have never really encountered any hatred from anyone of any particular race. So why do Obama supporters think that so many associations with unsavory people is considered normal? Has he just had bad luck, does he choose to be involved with such characters, or is he just a weak personality that gets drawn in to
absurbity because he cannot say no or walk away. In any event, it is something to think about. This man is suppose to lead our country so I assume that means he would use good judgement about his associations. I think it is fair to judge him on the company he keeps.
Posted by: Polly | May 29, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
I was a Hillary supporter, now…I’m holding my nose and will vote for McCain in November. Too bad. Obama is just my not my first choice to lead this country.
He’ll also raise taxes on the middle class and hard working Blue Collar Americans.
I certainly hope that in November the only blue state is Illinois.
Good luck Obama. You’ll need it.
Posted by: Da Man | May 29, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
What in the hell was that?
Good God! Is that church off the wall or what!
Posted by: Fisher | May 29, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
the uniter said he wanted this to transcend race.
the black people voting ninety percent for him without proper vetting
made it all about race.
the church he goes to and has gone to for twenty years and their blt made this all about race.
if sen. clinton or mccain were in obama’ shoes-their would be marches in the streets, and outcrys of racist.
for the black people and other obama supporters it is all about RACE and PERSONALITY.
for obama and his supporters the ISSUES
left the podium back in sc.
after geo bush, if obama get in this country will further decline.
bush has started it, obama cannot stop it, it will get worse.
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
You Clintonites and Repubs just keep swinging. You are doing nothing but showing your true colors to America and America doesn’t like it. THAT’S WHY HILLARY LOST and McCain will loose in November! America is sick and tired of the constant bashing politics of the old guard.
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
PEOPLE HERE HAVE NO *CLUE* WHO FATHER PFLEGER IS.
I’ll tell you. He’s a Catholic priest who has spent most of his life and career in depressed AA communities, fighting to prevent gang violence, drugs, drug paraphernalia, and even CIGARETTES from destroying young AA lives – and when NO ONE else cared. When NO ONE would lift a finger to do ANYTHING. Even when THREATENED BY GANGS, he has shown REAL courage, unlike anything anyone shows here. Face it – it’s more than YOU would do. And deep down, you know it.
Posted by: Kate L | May 29, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
The priest’s statement is so typical of the mean-spirited Obama camp. What is the purpose of this kind of personal attack?
Posted by: harvie | May 29, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
First Auschwitz, now a Catholic priest…something smells desparate!
Posted by: cyclops | May 29, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I can not understand those. who are defending Obama , this so unknown person. How can You trust someone, with a such dirty pass. Someone said, that Obama is not responsible for what priests or His Mentor are saying at Trynity Church, maybe NOT, but He choose this CHURCH and He fallow every step incl. donations of tons of money. He must love theose priests and His Mentor ideas, and He is one of them, if You like or not!!!Now we can see, who HE is trully fallowing, it is not changing the fact, the HE is hateful, and angry man, even He does not show!!!
He has nothing to do with slavery, and no one owe him and most of black people any appologies. Because we all are immigrants, we dont owe any appologies.Obama is MULATTE, not afro-american, and he was born in Hawaii, we can only dream to go there on vacation. WHY??? because WE the MIDDLE CLASS can not afford that comfort, at the same time, OIL CORPORATIONS and Rezko corrupted politicians, are controlling OUR lifes, buy making US very poor. He never experience hard times, He is a one spoil man, and dont give damn about Midlle Class. How I know, just look who is voting for HIM!!! Young people-naive people, who are believing in empty speaches, black people, who vote for their pride, and those, who ismaking over 100.000 . Truth hurts, maybe Obamas supporters, I getting use to hard times and I will survive!!!I can do any job, tose who support Obama cent, their noses are above clouds!!!!
Posted by: babybabe8 | May 29, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
excuse me, I mean McCain will lose in November.
Posted by: dan | May 29, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
All the more reason for all of us “Hillary Supporters” to write your local Howard Dean & DNC and ask that they remove your name from the Democratic Party mailing list, telling them we have just switched to the Independant Party, because “The Democratic Party” no longer represents us……..
Posted by: WOW | May 29, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Obama told the New York Times he will continue HIS MEMBERSHIP in Trinity United Church of Christ. “I still very much value the Trinity community,” where Black Liberation Theology as it has expressed itself in the African-American community seeks to find a way to make the gospel relevant to black people who must struggle under the daily burden of white oppression, is preached by former pastor, Rev.Wright and current hip-hop pastor Rev. Otis Moss.( whom Obama said was”"wonderful”).What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”… Mission Statement at TUCC, in which its commitment to Black Liberation theology is clearly spelled out as BINDING upon ALL MEMBERS……..”I Don’t Think My Church Is Actually Particularly Controversial’…..said Obama
Posted by: 07001 | May 29, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
As a Catholic I even wonder why this priest is still a member of the Church. With his views and beliefs (which are not very Catholic) he should be ex-communicated. Any priest supporting a candidate who’s PRO ABORTION is no longer a priest. The fact that he’s donated to Obama’s campaign is a nice road to hell, Father Pfleger!
Posted by: evagal | May 29, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Dan..
Showing our true colors? Oh please!
This article clearly shows that Obama’s “associates” are showing THEIR true colors. Everything is always about race with them. Let’s put the blame on “whitey”…let’s accuse those whites that don’t support Obama of being racist. They can’t possibly have any other reason not to vote for him…he is the Messiah. His picture on his website proves it.
Many people cannot understand if Obama proclaims himself to be a uniter, why does he focus so much on race? Why are so many of his associates controversial people who focus on…yes…race?
Obama and his camp were the first to play the race card. They were just looking for anything that would allow them to play it. I do not recall Obama once saying that the Clintons are hardly racist and have done a lot for the black community. He wanted to cause divisiveness so that he would get a larger % of the black vote.
His political pandering as of late has been so embarrassingly obvious. From his Cuban press conference to his Great Uncle story…which has more evidence to contradict it than to support it.
Obama is the ultimate hypocrite
Posted by: An Independent | May 29, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
OBAMA’S REFUSAL TO SHAKE HILLARY’S HANDS AFTER THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS SHOCKED ME WITH HIS CHILDISH PETULANCE AS HE WAS MY CANDIDATE THEN. FROM THEN ON, HIS PETTINESS AND MEAN-SPIRITEDNESS HAVE FOUND MANY REPLAYS IN HIS SUPPORTERS. I WAS TOTALLY SPEECHLESS WHEN I READ SOME OF THE POSTS BY HIS SUPPORTERS WHO ARE DOWNRIGHT VICIOUS.
NOW IT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE THAT A PRIEST, OF ALL PEOPLE, CAN ATTACK HILLARY ON SUCH A TRIVIAL AND PERSONAL LEVEL.
WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT? BIRDS OF ONE FEATHER, STICK TOGETHER.
Posted by: wakingup | May 29, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Smarter than YOu…must be your IQ!!!!That is expected of your type of dog!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 29, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
@Polly
I doubt that you would find your Episcopalian priests working in a core inner city neighborhood..
The most they would do is make sandwiches for the homeless shelter downtown. This is safe and easy it takes no involvement in the lives of the people.
Sorry but when you work in this kind of environment you will find all kinds of radicals. The mainstream will not touch it, and are afraid of it.
Even Jesus associated with the radicals, and undesirables.
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
What hasn’t been said about Barck the dummy! He is not very bright. The affirmative action dollars that were spent on his education would have better serve this country elsewhere.
We need a SMART PERSON in the white house – at least Hillary provides brightness, Barack doesn’t!
Posted by: Ed | May 29, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Here is the cure to all this mess. HILLARY RUNS ON AN INDEPENDENT TICKET!!!
That way we can get away from the democrat republican bs. Then we don’t have to worry about the bush clone or the black guy.
Now you could vote for the person without fear of repricussion from the establishment or guilt vote for the black guy. Hillary has enough support to pull this off. Especially if she gets blocked out of even being considered for vice president. But does she have the nuts???? Go Independent Hillary!!!!!!
Posted by: oddmanout1 | May 29, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
from CNN
In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago’s gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.
As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers
Posted by: True Truth | May 29, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
from CNN
In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago’s gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.
As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers
Posted by: True Truth | May 29, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
IF OBAMA CONDUCTS FOREIGN POLICY WITH THIS KIND OF MEAN-SPIRITED CHILDISH ATTACKS ON FOREIGN LEADERS OR ANYONE HE DOES NOT FANCY, GEORGE BUSH, MOVE OVER AS HE WILL NOT BE THE MOST OFFENSIVE AMERICAN LEADER ON THE WORLD STAGE THEN.
Posted by: BUSH2ND | May 29, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Hillary did NOT cry. This whole thing is very fishy to me. This church definitely KNOWS it’s being watched so why this drama? Anybody have an idea?
Is Obama’s campaign behind this in some weird way? The phony “Father” has been removed from Obama’s website this afternoon.
Anyway, I’m still waiting for someone to out Barry’s lie about Charlie Payne, great-uncle, who served in the Navy not the Army.
Posted by: Gypsy | May 29, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Kate L,
If you think this pastor is that kind of person, yes, I appreciate his works.
He can help black community without put hatred to white people.
That will create a racist forever.
Posted by: catleya | May 29, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
The Trinity United Church of Christ and it’s pastors are a digusting bunch!! Is this kind of hatred what Jesus, God and Christianity are all about?? If so, I would prefer to have nothing to do with it! A vote for Obama is a vote for racism and hatred in our great country. Think about it before you vote for Obama!!
Posted by: Charles Schabacker | May 29, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Is that ALL that Obama’s supporters have to come up with?
They cry…”guilt by association”…that’s all that’s bad with Obama…you guys need to give it up..
Well…this is one voter that won’t give it up. This man surrounds himself with these freaks. That shows poor judgment. What is even scarier, is that his supporters just overlook it all.
I was an early supporter last year and switched to Edwards before a lot of the controversy began. At the beginning of this year I started researching Obama and I found some pretty ugly things.
From admitted cocaine use…for years…to all the dirty Chicago politics he played from paying back favors to getting his US and IL Senate seat. If you want to overlook the MANY controversial associates then there is still way too much about him that paint him in a very negative light.
It is sad just how gullible and blind people are. They say he is the greatest, the most honest, he has played very fair and has run a clean campaign. Just crazy to overlook the obvious.
When SO many democrats won’t vote for him, he has a BIG problem. Of course all his supporters can claim is racism. For most of us, that is the farthest thing from our mind. I am actually upset by how HIS campaign has brought up race from the beginning and caused this divisiveness. They are the ones to blame.
It is unforgivable…and Obama is unelectable.
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 29, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Typical politician Obama….manipulating the system when he ran for Senate. CNN Anderson Cooper tonight special investigation the Obama camp tried to stop from airing! 10:00PM Eastern time…watch this slick Obama work the system to get his way. Won’t work in the general.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Why do Democrats want religion out of everybodies lives but use Churches to preach their propaganda from.
Posted by: san dn | May 29, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I don’t know why these reverends or pastors won’t stick to the biblical gospel? You can get a heck of cheers just preaching directly from the bible.
Posted by: Gillis | May 29, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
cyclops…..you are right on money. This is so call Catholic priest”are any one are trying to full me??? I am catholic, my uncle was a Bishop, my grate-gratefather was Arcbishop, and some yellow will tell me all this baloney, and teach hate. He is an idiot,He is not only catholic priest, but He is an discrace for CATHOLIC CHURCH. I will like to see His papers, proving His involvment in Catholic Church. BALONEY!!!He must be a part of Trinity Church movement, He didnt deserve any good answer. He teach hate, that is not what catholic church teach. He is a hateful son of the….!!!
225.000 thaat is great money. Obama love this speaches, even He is saying , He is not!!!. Obama will goes down sooner or later. Hate He is spreading(pretending that He is not)no way He is unifier!!!!
Aleluja!!!
IT IS SOMEONE THERE, WHO WILL START ADDING THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT UGLY OBAMA PASS, BASE ON TRUTH.!!! IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP, AND JUST DO IT, BEFORE IS TO LATE. i CAN BAT, THAT DNC IS SELLING US. NO VOTE FOR OBAMA, NEVER!!!
Some one said, that we do not want McCain to win, what is worse; Obama who is stilling Hillary health care plan, every idea,
Posted by: babalu123 | May 29, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
The Obama spend-o-meter is now up around $800 billion. And tax hikes on the rich won’t pay for it. It’s the middle class that will ultimately shoulder this fiscal burden in terms of higher taxes and lower growth.
The Wall Street Journal’s Steve Moore has done the math on Obama’s tax plan. He says it will add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax.
Not only is Obama the big-spending candidate, he’s also the very-high-tax candidate. And what he wants to tax is capital.
Doesn’t Obama understand the vital role of capital formation in creating businesses and jobs? Doesn’t he understand that without capital, businesses can’t expand their operations and hire more workers?
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
I personally liked the update of not only Obama removing him from his page, but then the guy saying that he is deeply sorry if he offended Senator Clinton or anyone who saw it. It is a little too late for that and not that anyone would believe your sincerity. You seemed pretty adamant about what you were saying since you kept going on and on, but I am sure that there is a reason for that as well. It seems that Obama has to defend everyone in his life, as well as his wife, but I guess the way he is trying to cover that up is by telling people not to bring his wife into it and that they don’t reflect his views! Well who does reflect your views.
Posted by: A | May 29, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
“HOW COME ALL the controversial personalities are somehow affiliated with OBAMA?”
Good question! Well, it’s because the media is biased towards Obama you see, and so doesn’t report anything controversial about him… er… no, that doesn’t make any sense. Can’t be that then.
Got it! It’s because the Clintons have never been and are not at present associated with anyone controversial… erm… no. That’s obviously not it either.
I don’t why it is then. Maybe it’s to do with the sort of person who blows things like this out of proportion…
Posted by: Aengil | May 29, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
No one can get away from this:
Hillary Clinton was the very obvious best choice for winning the nomination, if the Dems wanted to win.
Obama is an upstart, a thuggish “my turn first” “screw the party, it’s my party” type of person.
If anyone feels “entitled,” it’s him.
As a McCain supporter, I say “Many thanks, pushy blacentric one.”
Posted by: From Dem to Rep | May 29, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
OBAMA WILL NOT GET HILLARY SUPPORTERS TO VOTE FOR HIM COME NOVEMBER. INSTEAD, WE WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN.
Posted by: XTRA1XTRA2 | May 29, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
WHAT IS REALLY THE TRUTH WHEN OBAMA ABANDONED HIS INQUIRY INTO THE NUKE INDUSTRY AFTER RECEIVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM OXRON(NOT SURE ABOUT THE SPELLING)? BUYABLE AFTERALL? JUST LIKE HIS SHIFTING OF HEALTHCARE POSITION AFTER DRUG LOBBYIEST RAN HIS CAMPAGIN IN NH?
THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS THING IS THAT OBAMA TRIED OT INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE WHEN HE CLAIMED THAT HIS CHANGE OF POSITION IN HEALTHCARE WAS BECAUSE HMO EXISTED.
WOW, WHEN HE WAS FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, HE DID NOT KNOW HMOW EXISTED THEN? HE EITHER WANTED US TO BELIEVE HE HAD BEEN AN DEAF AND DUMB EDIOT BEFORE NH OR HE HAD SUCH CONTEMPT FOR OUR INTELLIGENCE THAT HE THOUGHT THE COULD PULL WOOL OVER OUR EYES SO EASYLY.
Posted by: noidiot | May 29, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
It’s not just the religious associations Obama had, it’s his entire church that goes into an absolute frenzy when they’re fed hatred. No way Obama didn’t do the same. Now way Obama could have ‘not known’ what was happening. No way Michell came up with her hate America rhetoric without getting it from the sermons. No way!o
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 29, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
we’ve had written to dean saying that if OBAMA the nominee our whole family will vote to mccain. OBAMA has nothing accomplished excepat a lots of speeches, i dont trust him 200%,
Posted by: ricca | May 29, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
why is cnn just now running this program.
because the goal of the dnc with the help of the msm was just to beat sen. clinton.
they hate her so, they were willing to give up the ge, just to get her.
because this time around sen. clinton was someone who was going to really help the middle class.
there was nothing in a sen. clinton presidency for dean, pelosi, reid and co.
sen clinton is stronger than all of them, and the only way they could beat her was to gang up and stack the deck against her. with the help of the msm.
anderson cooper has been campaigning for obama all along. don’t expect this program to be much.
Posted by: dnchijackedtheelection | May 29, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Thinking, It seems a bit self righteous of you to assume that I and the priests I have associated with have lived a sheltered life and never ventured into unpleasant territory.
If I listed the jobs in my life you would be duly impressed. That being said, I still have no characters like these in my background, not because they weren’t out there, but because I was smart enough to keep my life sane. My original question about his associations still stand.
Posted by: Polly | May 29, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Thank you, Rev. Pfleger for exposing Obama’s racist church! Remember Obama is still a member of this church; I guess as soon as this campaign is over he will be in attendance again.We are getting closer to the truth everyday.
This is definitely going to the convention floor now. That is, if Obama’s campaign makes it that far.
Posted by: Watson | May 29, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Pelosi can kiss my you know what!
Her, Dean and that 1/2 of the Dem party can do what they want. We all know there has always been something going on that hasn’t quite been right. They will be the one’s crying come November…lets see if Father Michael Pfleger and all those laughing and carrying on will be doing the same 6 months from now.
Posted by: kim | May 29, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
THANKS ABC FOR LETTING ALL VOCIES BE HEARD. MANY WEBISTES JUST WON’T POST ANYTHING EVEN SLIGHTLY UNFAVORABLE TO OBAMA.
HOPE ABC CONTINUE TO HAVE THE INTEGRITY AND COURAGE TO BE A REAL NEW MEDIA SERVING AMERICAN PUBLIC.
BEST WISHES TO ALL OF YOU AT ABC.
Posted by: THANKS | May 29, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Another apology from Obama for another friend who has echoed the same sentiments of hatred towards the white population.
I am not quite sure when the white people are going to ‘get it”. Hopefully this weekend they will, but something tells me that the ‘super’ delegates will be afraid of the American Africans.
(And yes, while you are a citizen of these United States you are American first).
Let’s just settle this nonsense in November.
Posted by: Mark David | May 29, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Hillary Clinton is a former first lady and a United States senator. The lack of respect she has received has been appalling. I don’t know if it is because she is white, a woman, a Clinton or all three but I am embarrassed and ashamed of our political leaders, members of the clergy and news media. Whether you back her for the presidency or not she has received over half of the primary votes cast, FL and MI voted count them or not. It’s not surprising many Hillary supporters talk of voting not for Obama but for anyone else including write-ins. If the democratic party is split they have no one to blame but themselves. Everyone needed to just shut up and let the primary season play out. It would have all come together in the end. Now not only will I not vote for Obama but will probably drop the democratic party and become an independent.
Posted by: maryintampa | May 29, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Sorry, Barry. You’ve got to many flakes, lunatics, terroists, thieves, and racists in your life for me ever to vote for you.
Posted by: mesquito | May 29, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Senator Obama: How is your effort to ‘unify the party’ going so far?
Can you say “McCain 2008″?
PS: Obama’s new pastor said, immediately after these new controversial remarks from the pulpet of Obama’s church: “Thank you for the messenger and the message”.
ATTENTION HRC SUPPORTERS IN THE SF BAY AREA: Vote against Nancy Pelosi in the June 3 Democratic Primary for her House seat. Maybe then she will get how we feel about her thumb on the Obama-Clinton scale.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | May 29, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Mark in LA – this tax thing is scary, if true. I truly worry that we could end up like a superinflated nation like Zimbabwe.
Posted by: xix | May 29, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I will still vote for Obama because.
1) Hillary’s lies was not from anyone else. Not her Pastor or even political associates. They are her very own look-us-in-the-face-and-lie family desease.
2) McCain wants to continue the war and may start another with Iran. He has no economic policy, just wars and rumurs of war.
Posted by: Gillis | May 29, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
The DNC made a terrible mistake. If Hillary is not the nominee, we are going to lose. This type of behavior and rhetoric takes race relations back 50 years. It’s a disgrace. I will no longer be a Democrat because I can’t even recognize what that means anymore.
Hillary, take it to the convention!!
Heck, Ted Kennedy did in 1980 and HE was running against an INCUMBENT President Carter. Where was the outrage then????
Hillary is our only hope.
Posted by: Gypsy | May 29, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
The media is starting to report about obama “playing Chicago political- hardball and being less than honorable in getting his rivals kicked off of the ballot in his first-term attempt at Illinois lawmaker”……I can’t WAIT for the Mainstream Media to turn on obama, full-circle……
Posted by: From Democrat to Independant | May 29, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Go HILLARY, GO as independent, we will support you like no one ever, especjhalli dnc, back stubbers!!!
dnc need you, and i will not give them another chance, they are not worthed.
We can win, as INDEPENDENTS!!!! YOU DONT NEED DNC, BUT SURE THEY NEED YOU!!!
IT WILL BE HILLARY “THANK YOU” TO BLACK VOTERS, WHO STUB HILLARY AND BILLTHEY CHHOSE NOT TO SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO HELP THEM, THEN IS TO LATE. HILLARY WILL WIN A BIG ONE. DNC WILL NOT WIN, BECAUSE THEY STUB HILLARY , AND SAME TO RICHARDSON, AND ALL THOSE SUPER DELEGATES, WHO CHANGE SIDES!!! HILLARY WILL MARCH……WITH HER HEAD UP!!!!
Posted by: babalu123 | May 29, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Some people may not like to hear it, but there was a bit of truth in what the priest said. When “white” people say “don’t place blame on me for what my ancestors did” then they (the white people) shouldn’t reap what their ancestors had sewn.
I am a German American. My parents left Nazi Germany because they didn’t agree with what was going on. I acknowledge what has happened, I don’t condone it, but I don’t harp on the subject either. You can’t forget history but you can move on.
There is still a lot of racism in this world and in this great nation. Maybe it’s time to shake things up a bit and elect an respectable black man to be our leader. Of course he is not perfect, and he may have some different beliefs, but look at what we have leading us at this very moment in time. Not many like GW Bush, were Mr. Obama a white man with a different name, a lot of these haters would support him, because he does have a core of good beliefs and thoughts.
Close your eyes, open your ears and actually listen to what the man himself has to say. Let go of the hate and stop pointing fingers. It’s time to start anew!
Posted by: a white guy | May 29, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Gillis
So you vote on assertions.
Posted by: S | May 29, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Who is REALLY playing dirty?
Obama is not a man of honor. In order to insure that Obama was to be the Democrat in his IL Senate race, his lawyers disqualified all of Obama’s opponents, all 4 of them, one by one. They took them to court and kept challenging signatures on petitions until each of them were out of contention. He was unopposed and won.
Ok…not really a big deal. But it happened a second time. The Republican he ran against, Blair Hull, was the front-runner…that is until journalists and TV broadcasters for still unexplained reasons, became aware of a “skeleton” in his closet. 6 years previously, Hull was going through a divorce and his wife alleged that Hull had threatened to kill her. Hull described that his divorce was bitter and that he had never been charged with that offense. Because of this, Hull ended up in third with only 10% of the vote. Obama ended up being the winner. Ok…maybe a coincidence….until it happened for a third time.
Now Obama set his sights on the US Senate. His Republican opponent, Jack Ryan, was the “ideal” candidate. Once again, some information go out to the media. Lawyers had to fight to get sealed records opened. They showed that Ryan’s ex-wife had accused him of taking her to a sex club. These were unproven allegations, just as were in the last scenario. Of course, Obama was the beneficiary in all of these situations. It kind of makes you wonder about what type of President this man would make doesn’t it? It did when I read it for the first time. As far as from what I have researched, this stuff is all true. I believe that the Obama campaign played the race card, painting the Clinton’s as racists. His campaign knows how to play the media or they are in the media’s pocket. I am not sure, but it all is suspicious.
The media controls our country and it is about flash over substance. That is what I feel it is all about…appearances and that is what I believe Obama is all about. This is just one of the many reasons why I’m turning down Obama.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
It is hillarious to listen to a bunch of bozos, many of which voted twice for criminals including Bush, Cheney, Rove and Rice, speak poorly about either Obama or Clinton.
Posted by: JIm Davis | May 29, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Hillary has had it. What do you do now?
Posted by: S | May 29, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Michelle is off the radar, no more stumping for hubby…always says the wrong thing. Obama will have to denounce and seperate from Trinity Church…finally…AND HILLARY WOULD BE WISE TO SUSPEND HER CAMPAIGN AND SIT BACK AND WAIT UNTIL AUGUST…FOX NEWS, ALAN COLMES AND WIFE PREDICTED THIS TODAY. SHE HAS 17 MILLION SUPPORTERS…DON’T END IT, SUSPEND IT.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
maryintampa:
The lack of respect for Hillary is her own making. Is it the lies or lack of honor and dignity for herself? Is it the obviousely selfish desire to be the first woman president, and destroy everything in her path to get that? She lost the respect by herself. I actually was looking forward to Hillary’s run for president until she actuaaly started running.
Posted by: Gillis | May 29, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
to y’all clinton fans the math is what it’s there nothing that u can do or change about it.unless the LORD has a different plant(for the next few weeks)it is reasonable to believe that OBAMA is the nomine(deal with it).Y’all can stay home or vot for mc bush who cares.THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A BIRTH RIGHT.what’s next CHELSEA for president.i’m still one biggest clinton(bill)fan however NO MORE DINASTY this is a REPUBLIC not a KINGDOM a DEMOCRATY not an ARISTOCRATY ENOUGHT IS ENOUTH y’all act as if he is where he is by some type of magical mistake the true is just as thousands vote for her thousands also vote for him IT IS WHAT IT IS deal with it
Posted by: everest, bloom | May 29, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Come on, guys! Who are you going to believe? Obama or your lying eyes?
He BARELY knew these people!
He NEVER heard about their beliefs!
He only JUST found out!
He would NEVER listen to such rhetoric without protest!
And he rejected and denounced such rhetoric! AGAIN!
What more do you people want? Leave Barack Obama alone!
Posted by: EV | May 29, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Frank…
Obama is holier than thou…we get it..we also get that his supporters just do NOT get it…They always miss the point. Obama can dismiss these people all he wants, but he cannot dismiss the fact that he has very POOR judgment.
I for one do not want him as President and to be given the go ahead to CHOOSE who will be calling the shots in his administration.
Some of us have the capability of looking at the WHOLE situation. We don’t dismiss the smaller pieces, one by one, because holier than thou Obama does.
Obama = Hypocrite
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 29, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
I read all the comments below. In sum, Hilary supporters are whining and complaining that she lost.
Hilary wanted to just walk up the aisle and say, I am white and I am Bill Clintons wife. She expected the Dems to fall at her feet and crown her!!!
She cries, cries and cries, so too her followers, just cry and whine.
Neither she nor her followers know how to exit the race.
The Dems need to move on to take that McCain, and his Bush 3rd term. Time is running out….
Hilary and her supporters need to grow up and stop being cry babies!
Posted by: Lisa | May 29, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
I am black woman who support Hillary Clinton 100%. I believe she is the most qualified to become President and work on health care, education, and end the assault to our troops in Iraq.
If people want a C H A N G E, Barack and the Superdelegates who support him need to be voted out of office. T H E Y are the problem with the D N C.
Florida for Hillary.
Posted by: simcreator | May 29, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
“Quote” Clinton is still making her case to the last group of voters who matter most right now: “In what appear to be her closing arguments to superdelegates, Tuesday her campaign sent a letter to superdelegates that claimed she is a stronger general election candidate than Barack Obama. Just in case superdelegates hadn’t understood her point, the campaign followed up on the letter on Wednesday, sending out a detailed, 11-page memo advancing the same suggestion. The memo included polls, charts and even Electoral College maps produced by Karl Rove.
Posted by: CBD | May 29, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
But to cast blame on a white American for what his great great grandparents did, or who might have had no ancestors in the US at all, is just blatant idiocy. Sorry.
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And what about the Jim Crow Laws? Conveniently leaving those out?
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
“AND HILLARY WOULD BE WISE TO SUSPEND HER CAMPAIGN AND SIT BACK AND WAIT UNTIL AUGUST…FOX NEWS, ALAN COLMES AND WIFE PREDICTED THIS TODAY. SHE HAS 17 MILLION SUPPORTERS…DON’T END IT, SUSPEND IT.”
HILARY ALSO HAS 30 MILLION DEBT, DON’T FORGET.
Posted by: Lisa | May 29, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
A supporter of one candidate dislikes, disrespects and ridicules the other candidate. Much as many of you people do Obama? Jeez, you people are juvenile.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 29, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Gosh Lisa…
I am not sure what YOU are reading, but I hardly notice anybody whining about Hillary Clinton…maybe it’s the Kool Aid that you are still drinking.
And since you bring up Hillary..did you know that 68% of Dem voters WANT her to stay in? That is up from a couple of weeks ago when it was 63%.
Seems like a majority to me…but maybe my math skills aren’t so good.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
It is interesting that the first Obama superdelegeate supporter to switch to Hillary is from the Virgin Islands. I guess the white superdelegates are so afraid of an AA backlash, and reverse racism agenda of the Obama camp. Well hopefully they won’t have to fear that anymore with this new scandal that’s going to hit the news hard.
Posted by: lacma los angeles | May 29, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
It was my own Mom who made me feel stupid and ashamed for thinking like i did and now I’ll try to sway some of you other stubborn guys- My sweet lil, Mom said to me when I stopped in to visit her “Why can’t the men in this Country realize that every time they mock Hillary Clinton -insult her for reasons of gender, the pain those words cause are felt true and hard as a slap to the face of all us women!
Those of us who support Hillary- (and facts show we are the majority) cannot understand why so many men and some women as well, are so hatefully determined to see Hillary crushed??
What are your reasons? Why would you not want to support someone who has proven she can stand up and take just about anything! She has the stamina and determination to make this Country prosperous again! Yet so many of you are putting your money on an unsure risk instead of a Sure thing?? This sort of mistake is going to cost this Country more than you can ever imagine!
God help us all!
Mom! I luv ya and I’m telling everyone what you told me- as I promised!!
Posted by: Greg inPa. | May 29, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
First off, as a Clinton supporter, I’m embarrassed by the idiots who are saying stuff like “when will White people realize…blah, blah, blah”… if you are supporting Clinton, please stop doing so, because she does not represent you or your bigotry and hate.
Its not just white people who should be appalled at the rhetoric that is regularly heart at TUCC, it is all people.
That being said, lets face it, Obama has been attending this church for years. I might be able to accept the idea that he doesn’t buy into the theology of hate that we saw here under other circumstances. But the fact that he chooses this Church for his children tells us that he wants them to think that this represents what God wants children to believe, and that this is what Christianity is about.
Actions speak louder than words, and no actions tell you more about a person than what they expose their children to. I could no more support a candidate who exposed his children to this kind of hate than I could support a cnaidate who regularly exposed his kids to the rants of White Christian Supremacists.
And while I’m sure Obama supporters will disagree, its really incumbent upon them to recognize that this isn’t the last of this kind of stuff that we’ll see—and its going to make Obama unelectable in 2008.
Posted by: paul_lukasiak | May 29, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
for all of you who say “I was for sen. clinton,etc”
if you really wanted a dem. back in the white house and wanted your lot in life to change for the better, (the economy)
you should have stayed with sen. clinton.
she knows the issues and how to solve them, she knows how to talk with ease about them.
axelrod and co. knew that obama did not have much of a politcal record to run on
so they had to play the personality game against the issues that touch the american people.
so axelrod and co won but the american people black and all have lost.
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
“But to cast blame on a white American for what his great great grandparents did, or who might have had no ancestors in the US at all, is just blatant idiocy. Sorry.”
I forgive you for the sins of your ancestors. But how you spin and act today I will not forgive until you appologize, change and mean it.
Posted by: Gillis | May 29, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
as anyone else noticed obama the uniter transcending race candidate
since obama has been on the scene he has only added to the problems of the races?
obama just saying hope and change does not make it so.
and obama and his associates are causing more trouble for race relations that they have or will help.
he needs to go.
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
To be upset about “radical” comments from the pastors of Obama’s church relating to race in America is like getting upset if you burn your hand when you touch a flame. The issue of racial oppression, violence and inequality has not gone away since the end of Jim Crow, it has only become more covert. Just look at our prison population and examine the type of “justice” that people of color receive! I’m a 45 year old white female and I recognize the incredible priveleges that I have had based on my race and my class. I also have seen the LACK of privleges offerred to people in different circumstances than my own and the result of generations of abuse and intolerance. I don’t judge Obama or any person of color for possibly resenting white america as I have sometimes resented white MALE america myself when faced with the limitations and insults of sexism.
The dire issue here is that we as a nation CANNOT afford another 4 years of the Bush doctrines packaged in the lunacy that is McCain. I beg the Clinton supporters to please note that McCain plans to revoke Roe v. Wade! For those that fear tax increases proposed by Obama, the increases will ONLY impact those making more than $200K a year which is certainly NOT the blue collar workers or the middle class so PLEASE read the fine print and don’t just listen to sound bytes.
We MUST both face the realities of racism in America AND do all that we can to unite and heal in order to ABSOLUTELY ensure that Obama and the dems wins the presidency in November–for the sake of our democracy and our collective soul!
Namaste,
-MCA
Posted by: MCA | May 29, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
All this talk about Obama has the delegate count and that is what is important not popular vote reminds me of 2000 when we were all mad and said the popular vote is what counts and not the electoral vote. So which is it? Every time I hear them say you can’t overturn the will of the people I figure Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson and Byrd to name a few are now for Hillary since we won their states.
Posted by: maryintampa | May 29, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
To all of you Obama supporters..we don’t care if he wins the nomination…he will NEVER GET IN THE WHITE HOUSE…THE DNC HAS MADE SURE OF THAT…THEY HAVE LOST THEIR CORE SUPPORTERS…THAT WOULD BE US BIBLE CLINGING, GUN SHOOTING, BLUE COLLAR WHITE WORKERS…AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE WILL GET HILLARY OR MCCAIN AND YOU AND THE DNC THANK YOUR IGNORANCE FOR THAT!!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 29, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
The Reverend Wright’s replacement is every bit a hate monger as was he. Yet Obama stays in the church. No doubt he feels very comfortable among the hate and bigotry. We do know his wife feels right at home and learns her lessons well.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 29, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
All the Hillary supporters are just bashing Obama for him being the front runner. Come on, he is backed by more millions of people, more elected delegates and more super delegates, and more states than Hilry. Someone has to lose. Just accept that she lost.
Dont be sore losers! Grow up and stop whining like kids! She has a right to stay, but soon someone has to put some sense into her and her supporters that it is over. Dont drag it crying all the way! Grow up!
Posted by: Lisa | May 29, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
frank
Obama will say anything. Some people believe anything.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | May 29, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
MCA,
Nobody disputes that there is inequality in the world and that some of it is based on race and much based on social class.
But for a man of God to stand up and blame people because of the color of their skin and say that they owe others something is ridiculous. This man is using his power for political purposes. As I see it, he is instilling and continuing hate for white Americans, many of whom have no part of the injustices caused to some and many of whom have taken part in trying to end those injustices.
It is one thing to focus your ranting and raving on those in power, but when you bring race into it, that shows your disinterest in creating harmony among all.
Now maybe if he had mocked Clinton without bringing race into the speech, I would not disagree with his viewpoint as much. The minute anyone brings race into what may be a very sound argument just is seeking to be divisive.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Many of you are much worst than these individuals making statements. They are out in the open while you sit behind a screen and type worse offenses. Bottom line to the realist – is that neither of you matter. If I were Obama (or anyone else), I would stop apologizing for the free speech of other Americans. It is their RIGHT. Dunkin Donuts (which I frequent daily) is removing commercials because of a scarf that was worn by Rachael Ray. The true spirit and patriotic fabric of America is diverse. I am an African American male and many of these statements do not shock our communities because we tend not to let the theatrics of the delivery sway us from hearing the truth or lies that follow. And second, getting offended is a daily occurrence in many of our lives and fortunately have evolved to the point where we focus our energies on bigger daily issues. I don’t get offended by some of the racist rants in these posts. That type of anger is your pain – not mines, not my children and not my soul.
Posted by: gblane | May 29, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
When can we look forward to Obama’s “historic address on white guilt?
Posted by: Adrienne in CA | May 29, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Obama’s hate church strikes again. His “longtime friend”? So far we’ve seen obama and company demonize clinton left and right, ratcheting up hate all along the way. Obama supporters have all become rabid zealots and we’re supposed to believe that Obama brings unity and hope? Yeah, ok.
Posted by: Anne | May 29, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Thinking wrote: “And what about the Jim Crow Laws? Conveniently leaving those out?”
Jim Crow Laws nothwithstanding, my point holds. Those laws were repealed in 1965. Which means that anyone born after that year was not alive and so cannot be blamed for them. That means anyone 43 or younger cannot be blamed.
However, also consider that people under 18 could not have voted and so cannot be held responsible for the actions of the elected officials. That means, anyone under 60 cannot be blamed.
So basically, the “guilty white Americans” must be over 60, which comprise 47,759,967 out of 288,378,137
Americans. Or 16.5% of the population.
Sorry. Still a dense argument to make that “old whitey” is to blame.
Posted by: JA | May 29, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
MCA,
The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr would be turning in his grave if he saw that this was what America thought of black churches.
These are the kind of folks, this is the kind of rhetoric that MLK was fighting AGAINST shortly before he was assissinated.
Preach love, not hate. Where did these black communities go wrong? And why did Barack Obama fall into this mess? He was naive.
Chicago… it’s like in the movie Chinatown when the they tell the hero “forget it, it’s Chinatown”.
Forget it, it’s Chicago.
Trust The Sky
Democrat
Posted by: trustthesky | May 29, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
From almost the beginning I have supported Obama, primarily because I hate Hillary for her role in the invasion of Iraq.
But Obama’s choice of church to attend has always bothered me a bit. Not quite enough to overcome my loathing of Hillary. After watching this video, I am having strong second thoughts about Obama. Why would he chooses to attend a church that is so racist? It would have to affect his agenda in office.
I know one response I’ll get: “You’re a liar. You’ve never supported Obama”. Those of you who have read my posts and argued with me for a long time know that is not true.
I still cannot support a traitor like Hillary. PERHAPS I’ll vote for a 3rd party candidate or just sit out the general election.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 29, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Mark in LA – You may have missed this detail, but “this man” (Pfleger) is not running for President.
Posted by: jock59801 | May 29, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
I to live in oregon and the truth is that the masses were at the concert for the band,including obama.the decemberist are a radical band(like obama)and it made sense for him to speak where the band was playing ie. large crowd. 80,000 not for obama.I know the truth can hurt but i would rather have the pain of truth then the pain of a lier.stop fooling yourself about this man.he will not be good for AMERICA.
Posted by: msm4hills | May 29, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
jock…if you say so, it must be true..just like Obama…
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
MCA…good for you that you recognize the plight of blacks, but I’m a white 49 year old woman too, and the Obama campaign made race an issue, not Clintons. And to keep white hatred and blame rhetoric in the lives of the Obama’s young daughters is even more troubling for a candidate of “change” and “unification”. I was a Republican who voted Hillary and donated to her campaign, and will gladly go back to McCain and work for him in Sept. American first, party second,…I, like millions of Americans, will vote for who I like, not based just on policies. The highest office in the land has to be EARNED.
Posted by: Debra | May 29, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Gillis,
First off, I’m not white and have no ancestors implicated in slavery. Secondly, even if they were I wouldn’t seek anyone’s forgiveness.
So please now, enlighten me as to what I say that needs forgiveness. You remind of Obama spot on – you make claims without any ground in reality.
Posted by: JA | May 29, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
While Obama obviously is the one running for President…but thank you for pointing it out Jock, as I am one of those uneducated and racist Clinton supporters….I at least have the good judgment to know that Obama has bad judgment.
This is one of the many reasons why I will be turning down Obama.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
…Should you ask Obama about this hate strewn rhetoric, he would probably say:
…..” just words”!
Posted by: eyes open | May 29, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
If you think that Obama knew nothing about the horrible things Wright preachs read this. Notice the date it was written…July 16, 2007. He continued until his Pastor was found out and he wanted to be President. Obama lies constantly. His wife would be a joke in the White House. She is a hateful person. They make me sick. Also what about Donald Young and Larry Sinclair? His associations areunbelieveable. I can’t believe the American people would consider giving a person like this the time of day much less hand our country over to him. It’s outrageous. Has decency become oldfashioned too???
Posted by: carolyn | May 29, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I used to support Hilary. I even donated more than 1500 dollars for her campaign.
Then the more I saw her and Bill doing the damage to another democratic candidate, aligning with FOX news and bashing Obama, just because he is the front runner, I began to reconsider my support for her.
The worst was, the Freudian slip she made in wishing Obama’s assassination and bringing up a message of anything can happen in June, was the ultimate slap to any sensible democrat supporting her.
She needs to find a way to exit this race and exit GRACEFULLY soon. Her supporters need to swallow their pride and accept a simple fact that she lost, instead of bashing Obama here.
Posted by: Mary Ann | May 29, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
If this is the kind of unifying, good spirited attitude that Obama and his spiritual friends offer, then I think it would be better for women to say no thanks.
Posted by: rafraf | May 29, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
So Pastor Hagee and Pastor Ron Parson’s hateful and disgusting rhetoric about homosexuals and muslims and catholics AND jews is not front page news but this, when Obama doesn’t even go to that church anymore? Right….
Please people, focus on the true issues. I can barely even stand it anymore…. This campaign has bought out the most idiotic intellectually inferior people without the testicular fortitude to grab a book or a non-mainstream media newspaper to discover things for themselves as opposed to expressing “outrage” over the most banal, trite and ridiculous things that have nothing to do with the massive DESTRUCTION that the crooks and liars, otherwise known as the republican party, continue to heap on our heads.
Worry about the fact that your children’s gas will be 15 dollars a gallon by the time they’re sixteen, worry about the fact that 5 thousand men and women have died for NOTHING, worry about the fact that they’re shipping the jobs of the “white Christian blue oversees…leaving you with nothing, and no healthcare system in place to support you in your old age.
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES. Not this ridiculousness. When WE stop making these stupid things a big deal and stop going into apoplectic shock at every perceived slight the media will go back to reporting the hard hitting news and not being a glorified tabloid.
Posted by: LegalEagle | May 29, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Would Jesus Know Obama’s Church ?
Posted by: Georgie | May 29, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Sorry. Still a dense argument to make that “old whitey” is to blame.
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And you think the federal ghoverments intervention in the Jim Crow Laws ended the racisim behind those laws? After 1965 all white Americans supported and loved the Black community? There is no racisim in any one younger then 43?
Who is dense?
Posted by: Thinking | May 29, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Legal Eagle..
Tell us then…who will actually fix that? Many of us believe that it will NOT be Obama…he is full of empty promises…he says he is a uniter but associates with some of the most divisive characters out there. He says he practices a new kind of politics but yet his IL and US Senate seats were won with anything but.
These are important issues. The politicians can SAY what they want, it is what they have DONE in the past that is indicative of what they WILL do in the future.
Most of us are quite aware of what the three candidates policies are. There is nothing wrong with debating the importance of situations like this, since they do bring up issues such as judgment and character.
Posted by: Independent Voter | May 29, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Dear Mark from LA–
Thanks for your comment. The intent of my post was not to “excuse” or ignore the comments of this latest pastor as I personally feel that any true Christian should follow the BE-Attitudes first and foremost.
That said, my intention was to put forth the idea that perhaps we SHOULD be having this dialogue about race and the consequences of racism as well as sexim out in the open? I agree that the pulpit or even the church perhaps is not the best venue, but the black church going back before Martin Luther King has historically been a place of socio-political dialogue and sermonizing so again why does white america react so sharply? Don’t we see the realities of racism all around us? It isn’t that Obama is purposely forcing the race card down our throats, it is in the very air we breathe and his candicacy itself has just exposed the ugly truth much like the times in the Clinton campaign, when sexism has come to the forefront–(although I disagree vehemently that sexism was ever projected by the Obama campaign) The media at times has gone after Clinton with gender-focused assaults, but this outrage about the notion of a person of color “hating whitey” represents a lack of awareness involving the reality in which we live. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to be hated just because I’m white, BUT I can understand why a person might lean towards those feelings if their entire lives were engulfed in racial oppression and injustice.
The Obama candidacy offers our nation an incredible opportunity to reclaim some our our international dignity and respect not because of the color of Obama’s skin but because of his philosophies of inclusion, mindfullness, strategic innovation and perhaps most importantly that we must always use diplomacy before aggression. These ideals can ensure the best future for all of us on the planet.
Namaste,
MCA
Posted by: MCA | May 29, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
I am an Independent who is completely repulsed by the ugly rhetoric coming from Obama supporters.
Hillary Clinton is a fine candidate whose policies obviously appealed to half the Democratic Party. If you have a problem with her stand on the issues, that’s fine. But to attack her for being a human being and to attribute vulnerability to racist entitlement is just disgusting.
I do not blame Barack Obama for someone else’s words, but I am disconcerted by how many people whose endorsements he has had to reject and denounce.
Posted by: Kev | May 29, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Michael Pfleger is a white man trying to be black. Absolutely the stupidest looking juvenile idiot I’ve ever seen. Then he apologizes that he didn’t mean to offend anybody. Childish, immature bunch of hypocrites. I use to think black people were highly religious but if that is an example of how they worship then I have to change my mind. A grown man that is suppose to be a man of God mocking someone. Using the pulpit for political purposes. Church and State. Hillary has to be tough as nails not to respond to something as absurd as that. The fat white guy on Hannity and Colmes tonight was as stupid as Pfleger arguing with the black preacher that was also on that show. Apparently he saw nothing wrong with Pfleger mocking Hillary.
Posted by: C Good | May 29, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
It would be newsworthy if Obama had made the comments, but he did not. Besides this is quite tame when compared to comments that have come out of the Clinton camp, especially those spoken by Hillary.
Posted by: Fifth | May 29, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
225,000 dollars given to this idiot at the bequest of Obama. Did Obama get his money’s worth this week. I just can’t wait to here what else comes out of “the uniter’s” church this summer. This nomination is going to “stink” with racism and sexism and people will not hold there nose to vote for him.
Posted by: Jim | May 29, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
lovy Someone believing that on some level that Clinton felt entitled to the nomination , I will respect that belief.
The belief though that it was rooted in white supremacy is offensive and on what would you base that? Just by virtue of her being white? If that’s the case how do you anticipate that Obama will unite this Country if he or those around him are of the belief that all whites are inherently racist other then of course Father Pfleger. Tell me specifically what it is we should hope for out of this? What change we can expect see? If all whites are inherently racist then was will inspire them?
Posted by: alpaig | May 29, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Ok, many of us are angry, frustrated and sick of the media and it’s blatant bias. Not all people are going to see these postings or hear both sides about Obama. (because of the media). So, will someone please tell me what can we do about any of this? I myself am tired of just blowing off steam on these boards. We can’t trust government, media, who do we have to really take care of us and tell us the truth?
Posted by: jg | May 29, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Obama has known the Priest and the Rev for a long time. I cannot believe he has not been familiar with their “brand” of theology, which is racist. Look at all of the church members clapping. They are racists and so is Obama and his wife.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
“The Obama candidacy offers our nation an incredible opportunity to reclaim some our our international dignity and respect not because of the color of Obama’s skin but because of his philosophies of inclusion, mindfullness, strategic innovation and perhaps most importantly that we must always use diplomacy before aggression. These ideals can ensure the best future for all of us on the planet.”
Sorry MCA…I just don’t buy it. I see Obama’s church as many of his associations as showing the contrary. I believe Clinton has the same ability to do what you purport Obama as being able to do. She has shown this to be true by her past actions. When one looks at programs put into place, then it can be clearly seen that she has shown how inclusive the government can be.
I for one, believe that Obama’s campaign brought race into this election to their benefit. Looking at the timeline it is obvious. They have proven to be hypocrites and while Clinton’s campaign has been far from perfect, at least they do not claim to be.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
That “church” is full of hate.
Posted by: brent22202 | May 29, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
When is it too much?
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Exactly how many more racist, anti-white, hate-filled preachers, spiritual leaders, & political advisors does Senator Barack Obama have to distance himself from before the American voter wises up and sees him for the phony-baloney hypocrite that he is?! I still cannot BELIEVE that this empty suit, inexperienced, one-note politician may be America’s next President.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 29, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
It doesn’t matter what the “math” is for the Democratic nomination. What matters is who can beat John McCain in November. Superdelegates were created just for this very scenario. Obama will not win in November. Too many things in his closet.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Those people in the pews were gobbling it up like m&m’s.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Independent Voter:
That response was wonderful. I just get so so so offended at the nonsense that I read on these blog comments. I have no problem with a difference of opinion when it is intelligently stated and not full of ridiculous hateful rhetoric.
Thank you and point well taken!
Posted by: LegalEagle | May 29, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Dear Debra–thank you for your comments as well.
I never said that the Clinton campaign raised the race issue–first. The race issue was UNavoidable, just like the sexism issue was UNavoidable. Our nation has been run and dominated by white men since its formation so to have an african-american and a woman running in the same election could never be treated or experiences as the “NORM”.
I do wonder though Debra, how as a woman you would want to vote for McCain when he has stated that he’ll revoke a woman’t right to chose what she does with her own reproductive rights? Additionally, do you really want more warfare–more dead soldiers, more dead civilians–more grief for our nation and the world? McCain will invade Iran and keep us in Iraq — I’m curious to hear what your thoughts are and wish you well.
Namaste,
-MCA
Posted by: MCA | May 29, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Anyone who questions why this article is a headline topic doesn’t deserve the right to vote. Barack Obama is not a contestant for a reality show; he is an unvetted candidate campaigning for the highest office in this nation. His judgment, character and integrity are all “issues” that need to be brought to the attention of the voting population. Everyone has the right to hear and read about the individuals and events that shaped the candidates’ lives. Yes, the majority of the voting population is interested in the kitchen table issues and how each of the candidates’ expects to resolve those issues. However, it is equally as important to know which direction their moral and ethical compass is pointing.
Posted by: Virginia Independent | May 29, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
I am African American and I am very sorry but I cannot do it. Some thing is not right with the people Obama is associated with. God Bless us, we need it right now when we have Pastors talking in this matter.
Posted by: Sally | May 29, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
“sweetie” “you’re nice enough”
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Gotta LOVE JPT(Just Pure Trash)
You never cease to amaze, JPT!
Posted by: IslandGirl | May 29, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
What kind of cult is this church? I think the FBI needs to be investigating all of these people that preach and attend this hate filled church!! Sounds like it could be inhabited by terroists!!
Posted by: virginia | May 29, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I am African American and I am very sorry but I cannot do it. Some thing is not right with the people Obama is associated with. God Bless us, we need it right now when we have Pastors talking in this matter.
Posted by: Sally | May 29, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Florida..your right the math does not lie , there were hundreds of people in
Obama’s church clapping and supporting those racist comments. I wonder if we will ever see any proof that in 20 years Obama was one of those idiots? Oh wait I heard a rumor that there is tape of his wife wooping it up in that church agianst “old whitey”.
Posted by: Jim | May 29, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
“how as a woman you would want to vote for McCain when he has stated that he’ll revoke a woman’t right to chose what she does with her own reproductive rights? Additionally, do you really want more warfare–more dead soldiers, more dead civilians”
How can you be for dead babies, but against dead soldiers and civilians? That’s just plain stupid.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
For those of you who don’t realize it, MSM is working over time to keep Obama out of office, They LIE and Twist any little tidbit they have. Open your eyes and explore truths, And that means quit reading garbage that JPT(Just Pure Trash) spews on a constant basis!
Posted by: IslandGirl | May 29, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Spend 20 years in a cesspool or a septic tank.
It is not going to make much difference later when you say, Hey! yeah I was there but not part of the sewage.
You’re still going to be covered from head to toe in it , and the stench will be a dead giveaway.
If an Obama supporter’s utterances fall on deaf ears, could one assume that they never said anything?
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
“Jg” is right blowing off steam on these blogs isn’t enough. We need to take back our party, our country, and our future.
We need someone to speak up for us. Someone, like James Carville. Where are you Carville?
Posted by: Watson | May 29, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Here is the truth Hillary! Because you put up with that cheating husband just to gain power, the world knows you for a Machiavellian fraud. You lied repeatedly and we were turned off. Had you divorced that cheater, you would have had the support of millions more who would have seen you for the real deal but you blew it! A ruin career based on lies.
Posted by: rockychance | May 29, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
sally why do you have to apoligize?
your thinking is correct.
Posted by: worldcitizen | May 29, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
I’m disgusted with Obama. He has been a race baiter and is so hypocritical. Clinton was criticized until she apologize for RFK comments (totally unwarranted) and we let Obama get away with this crap. He pretends to not be involved — yeah, right. He is involved and he is not wortthy of our votes of confidence. Wake up voters… Obama is worse than George W. He is the most disgusting type of politician. Will you let his race baiting tactics get to you? Don’t throw away this election. Obama is not electable in the general election.
Posted by: David | May 29, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Obama is in a position where he has to get rid of his past….kinda like a lot of people scrape mud off their shoes. He is NOT for the average guy; he is a elitist liberal who is out for his own benefit. If Bush had not gotten rid of Saddam and his rape chambers, Obama would not have had a chance.
Posted by: parkerknoll | May 29, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
The Confabulator (who cannot keep his story about his family’s wartime record straight) surrounds himself with religious extremist nutjobs like Wright and Pfleger, and his supporters make all sorts of excuses why we shouldn’t consider his choice in “spiritual advisers” as a reflection of his own personal beliefs. I can’t wait to see Wright and Pfleger visiting and staying in the White House under a Confabulator’s administration.
Posted by: Joe | May 29, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
People are so stupid in America.
If MSM told them Iraq has WMD and is an imminent threat, Id bet they would fall for that also!
People wake up, MSM doesn’t work for you, They work for Corporate America, The people who put us in Iraq!
Posted by: ShameonYou | May 29, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
The entire Democratic Party has acted disgracefully as they have enabled this unvetted, inexperienced huckster who has a personality that rivals Bush in terms of arrogance and lack of knowledge.
Obama has no class or dignity and his wife is angry and hostile…
Oh,how inspiring this couple is NOT!~
Posted by: Gloria | May 29, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Sally…. Thank you for standing up. I have been so torn — I’ve never supported anyone but Democrats — but Obama is not our hope.
Posted by: David | May 29, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Apologies, apologies to you all. You can say anything you want to as long as you apologize for it afterwards. I’m not buying it and I’m not voting for Obama. He is a racist. These ministers did not change their spots overnight. Obama likes them, listens to them and has them working on his campaign…until they showed their colors and then they had to apologize and hide. Then Obama had to disavow them or “throw them under the bus..” Obama keeps saying these people don’t represent his views but yet he keeps them around and keeps going to that racist church.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Sweeety is not a term you use relative to someone that you do not know well or endear… Obama used it ina condescending and sexist fashion. He is not what you think he is…. And besides… this has nothing to do with the topic of this article — but I couldn’t let such ‘ohhh I do it all the time” crap pass without commenting.
Posted by: David | May 29, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
David…
I feel sorry for you, Truly you are one that depends on MSM to tell you what to think.
Posted by: sai.mati | May 29, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Hillary’s career in the DNC is already finished, the coup will be complete this weekend. I want her to run as a independent and take all supporters with her. All hale Pelosi, Dean, Obama! Blah! Blah!, Blah!, just vote for Obama…don’t think, don’t question, and for god’s sake don’t look at the poll numbers.
Posted by: Jim | May 29, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I am a Catholic. I don’t vote for Hillary , but I am not with this priest either. He should focus on his job as a priest. He had crossed the line of the priest.
Posted by: Dave | May 29, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
If this is what people want our country to be, they can do it WITHOUT MY VOTE. Who speaks this way REPEATEDLY in CHURCH? Americans, you have been privy to a “sneek peek” of the kind of ridicule that Senator Obama, his friends and associates have for this country and for all but 14% of her people. This great uniter…I’m speechless. At least now we know the truth. Jeremiah Wright was not a fluke. As the Pittsburgh Tribune said when the Pennsylvania primary was going on, “Barack and Michelle Obama have so many incidences of Anti-American rhetoric around them, you have to believe THIS IS WHO THEY ARE.” Just vote for McCain now and end this idiocy.
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 29, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Obama is getting way too many endorsements from nut jobs. Let’s nominate Hillary. Hamas hates her!
When terrorists start endorsing Obama it’s a sure sign that his train ain’t on the right track.
Posted by: BBMJ32 | May 29, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
This priest is a racist!!!
No, Hillary did not campaign in Florida.
Posted by: Candi Delight | May 29, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
ANOTHER OBAMA-LINKED RACIST PASTOR (4)
under fire for racist talk . Minister called U.S. mayors *slave masters,* blacks who protect white men ‘HOUSE N-GGERS’ exclaimed James Meeks, an Illinois state senator and pastor of one of the largest churches in the state, endorses Obama. …………..
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59735………….
ANOTHER OBAMA-LINKED NUTTY PROFESSOR
Obama adviser, Stanford University law professor, Larry Lessig denies he had blasphemous intent by including in his lectures a video of a GAY JESUS CHRIST SASHAYING NEARLY NAKED down a city street to the tune of Gloria Gaynor’s ” Will Survive.” ……………….. http://www.spike.com/video/jesus-christ-musical/2685131……….Lessig has worked actively on behalf of Obama to explain calls for the appointment of a technology czar to serve in the White House. Obama’s campaign website proclaims Lessig as one of the industry experts supporting his technology plan. Lessig endorses Obama, describing the candidate as a friend and former colleague……………………….
Obama said “There’s no doubt we took a “hit” and that his candidacy has been weakened by some of the negative press he has received by what he described as “REACHING”.
Posted by: 07001 | May 29, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
I am a Democrat. I cannot vote for this man – there is just no way, NO WAY, I can vote for this man. It’s not going to happen.
Posted by: Nick in Wisconsin | May 29, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Obama says he never heard any anti-white hatemongering from the pulpit in his church.
ROFL
Well – it didn’t begin in 2007 – that’s for sure!
We know where Obama learned his race-baiting – that’s for sure too.
We would never vote for a race-baiter!
NObama!
Posted by: JoseyJ | May 29, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
WM in Florida: Your vote doesn’t count. Get over it.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
And by the way, Frank, Obama keeps giving the speech, but at some point one’s life becomes the example of what they believe. Obama is a huge hoax. Anti-American, for sure. That part is no longer in doubt to me. The larger part of America has only been privy to this church’s sermons for a short, short time, yet look what we’ve heard. Anyone still want to say Obama never heard any of this horrible stuff in 20 years? And note to the priest, “Sorry, dude. You’re still a white guy!” But your act certainly did benefit your school. Obama saw to that.
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 29, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Just remember Clinton supporters…the media and all the pundits said that Kerry was going to win the election! Well, we know he did NOT….the same with Obama….he may get the nomination, but he won’t win the GE!! Already the polls are showing Obama is losing supporters left and right!! It will be Hillary’s revenge thanks to we Clinton supporters!!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 29, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Guilt by association huh? Someone run off the list of disgraced Senators and Congressman during the past 8 years. I guess they are not long term associates of any of the candidates. I wonder if McCain would admit to being friends with the likes of a Scooter Libby? I wonder if Hilary will regain my respect and simply admit – her failure to obtain the nomination is directly tied to the wrong political strategy from the beginning. Not her race. Not her gender. Not her age. And yes – while she may not have felt entitled ( I think she did), she did in fact underestimate her opponent. She thought that the old political cry of “it’s not your turn” would take care of her rise to the Presidency. Don’t be mad Hilary. Be better.
Posted by: gblane | May 29, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Mack;
I’m sorry to say that I don’t share your belief that an unborn UNviable embryo is a “baby”. I also don’t appreciate you forcing your personal beliefs in a way that will limit the rights of women to decide what they want to do with their reproductive rights.
I’m not promoting abortions–and no woman makes that decision easily. But I want to ensure that women’s rights are upheld and honored in a way that allows choice for ALL. Those that believe that life begins at conception can have all the babies they choose–whether they can support them, love them or even really want them–that is the beauty of CHOICE!
Namaste,
-MCA
Posted by: MCA | May 29, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Did it ever occur to anyone that Obama has every capacity to actually be offended by these types of comments given that he is biracial and was raised in a white family?
My situation is exactly the same and another interesting element that people who are not similiarly situated do not appreciate, is that people (both black,white and otherwise) feel less comfortable making these statements in the presence of a person of such a background.
Any cogent or at least coherent thoughts?
Posted by: jeanette | May 29, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
If Obama does win the nomination we know more nasty stuff will be coming out…..boy, will the Obama people be screaming racism them..can’t wait!!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 29, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
And I cant believe I just read a comment about Hamas. Who cares!!! Hamas = Palestine, not the US. The only people Hamas is a threat to is Israel, and not the US. Believe me cowboys, Hamas doesn’t have the arsenal to reach the US. Hamas is fighting about land. And the US is not their land, so we have no problems.
Next
Posted by: WM in Florida | May 29, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Don’t blame me, I voted for Hillary.
How many millions of people will be saying this.
Thanks, DNC, for screwing us again.
Posted by: SamPA | May 29, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
I love the 2nd update!! Allow me to translate for you, “Oh Crap, there was a camera running??”
Idiot.
Posted by: MH | May 29, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Can’t Obama just get out of this presidential race.
He is a disgrace for the Democratic party.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | May 29, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Making known the social truth to cause judgment
thereby justice is served restoring the equilibrium to our Country.
Is not the child true innocents of present?
As watchers of worlds do weep for the innocents of a child
knows not hate racism or prejudice a carried chain of generations
upon the battlefield of hate. Hear not any man of any race at any time
whose foundation is that of hate. As he fires prejudice to forge racist links to chain of past
By this knowledge we break to days of tomorrow as compassion of understanding
teach children. Within wisdom’s crown of grace is set the jewel of equality
Humanities gift best shared. why then does Obama refuse to break the racist chain of pastor Wright
or leave the trinity church of hate ?
Posted by: smallestvoice | May 29, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
And people don’t understand why I am voting Republican for the first time in thirty years…
I can’t stand the people that Obama surounds himself with including his wife.
McCain will do just fine.
Posted by: Meagansmon | May 29, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
He was just saying what so many people already feel. Hillary cries and pouts everytime she can’t have her way. Then when that doesn’t work, she just makes up blatent lies to cover the truth.
It’s hilarious how people are now saying this preacher is racist!!! WHAT A LAUGH! When I looked up I saw a white preacher saying this and somehow because he spoke the truth about a whacko makes him a racist. I guess Hillary’s craziness is rubbing off on her supporters.
Posted by: MH | May 29, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
I am a devout catholic and never in my 54 years in this earth going to catholic churches have I heard a priest express himself in such a hatefull way about anyone or anything! It’s a disgrace for a Roman Catholic express that way, it goes against everything our church stands for. Obama and his family sat for 20 years in that church and now he wants us believe that he doesn’t share those ideas? If that priest had preached at my church I would had been out of there in less that 20 seconds. Not Obama he sat there for 20 long years….. No, thank you DNC I will never vote for Obama. McCain is looking better by the hour.
Posted by: anne white | May 29, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Barack Obama is Dr.Martin Luther King Jr’s worst nightmare. Obama is a divider. Obama’s mentors preach hate and racism. He is NOT the ONE.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Hey micha6888–may I suggest you actually read the posts before you go POSTAL?!! I never said that abortion is a “beautiful” choice. So that means I’m actually neither vile nor stupid..goodie for me!
What I actually if you’d bother to read, was that having an abortion was a choice that no woman makes “easily”–that means it is a DIFFICULT choice..and thus not an ideal situation! Do I need to be more clear with you–geesh! Oh, and if you’re relying on condoms to prevent pregnancy, then you may be in for a surprise…they are only 80% effective–not so good!
Last, I don’t recall the “devil” promoting Women’s rights either, but I don’t believe in the existence of the devil anyways. I do however, believe in rights…and I CHOOSE to support access to those rights for everyone.
You don’t really deserve the meaning of this word–but Namaste,
-MCA
Posted by: MCA | May 29, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
MH must have selective hearing..
While some may see Clinton as a whiner and so on…blah, blah, blah…then fine. The problem was that this “priest” injected race. That was wrong.
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 29, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Those were real crocodile tears, if you ask me. A face full of water sheds no tears. No woman no cry.
Obama hangs out with me too – I wish.
Posted by: Gillis | May 29, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
My grandfather, veteran and dead, my father, veteran and dead, and myself, veteran only, have been Democrats since the 1920′s. I am sick and tired of giving Obama the benefit of the doubt. I can no longer support him, and futhermore, I will now work to make sure this leader of this hateful church group doesn’t have a chance in my neighborhood. NObama…ever.
Posted by: Roger King | May 29, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
I will vote against Obama, if Clinton is his running mate.
Posted by: Gillis | May 29, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Can’t you just see Obama smacking his head against a wall, and saying, couldn’t they have waited a few more weeks? Until I’d bamboozeled the DNC into giving me what I wanted? Until I’d bamboozled enough SDs into coming my way?
Of course, it’s possible the super delegates still will come his way. But maybe, just maybe, this will give them pause.
Posted by: Beth | May 29, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
So lets see…. what do we have on Obama, NOTHING!!!! so lets go after his pastor! What a joke!
Posted by: IslandGirl | May 29, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Very strange that Mua, Huh?, Wm in Florida, and Nat Turner all have the same IP.
If an Obama supporter’s utterances fall on deaf ears, could one assume that they never said anything?
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
We have become a country of wimps. This is no different than a SNL skit. Thicken up your skin and move on to worry about the real issues dragging down this country. I am a lifelong Republican who is switching parties this year because I am embarassed at what the GOP has doen to this country.
Posted by: David in Il | May 29, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Wright and Pfleger are extremist liberals who have enjoyed the ear of OBama. They have supported him and he has in turn supported them and now that they have been exposed as the bigots and racists that they are Obama says that they do not share his vision of America! Well they shared his vision for 20 yrs and now he says that some how he was deceived! NO it is us the Americian people who have been deceived by a elitist politician who has worshiped at the alter of Black Liberation Theology and now acts like he is amazed at those with whom he has worshiped. The MSM has let him slide and have been his apologist and have been cheerleaders and not reporters. Just like when the Iraq war started they were the “In Bed With” this administration and never asked the tough questions and now they are the ones who are the loudest critics of a war that they helped promote. Now we are on the brink of nominating a man based not on what he has done for he has accompolishe very little on the political stage and his greates claim to fame is a speech that he gave against the war. Well I spoke out agaist the war at the begining so does that qualify me to be President? It is the left wing liberals like and the Africian Americian community who have propelled Obama to the nomination of the Democratic Party, but this election can not be won with only blacks and egg heads! It will take white working class voters for Obama to win against McCain and after viewing this video of Rev. Pfleger and watching the reaction of Obama’s church members I am more determined than ever to work for McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination. This party is going back to the political wilderness that Bill Clinton led us out of 13 yrs ago and I for one am not going back! I have never voted Republician in my life but I am prepared to do so now and I think that there are millions of Democrats who feel the way I do and maybe we will make the difference and elect McCain!
Posted by: Russell | May 29, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I will vote against Obama if Clinton is his VP. I will vote for Clinton if she is the Nominee. If she is not the nominee, hello John McCain.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I am listening to the words of the messiah, not his actions.
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The Father is supposed to make further explanations regarding his comments tomorrow????
What more can this man say? And it’s not just the Father, either. Did you see all of the members in that church eating up every word this man said? That I think was more disturbing to me. How many people there are in Obama’s church, and ALL of them had the same response to this man’s antics.
Are we really supposed to believe that Obama is the ONLY member of that church who would have been appalled at what was said?
Puhhhleeease……
Bad enough this man Obama does not know our country’s history, but every clergyman who speaks at his church appears to have a supreme case of white hatred, even those who ARE white.
I wonder who wrote Obama’s apology speech for him? He obviously does not practice what he preaches, so it could not have been him.
Posted by: SandyB | May 29, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
I am so happy this holy priest has issued an apology. What did he think when all that nonsense was falling out of his mouth…that no one would be offended? The truth is this man could have cared less if he offended anyone. What a loser. Father Pfleger writes to say, “I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”
Posted by: Roger King | May 29, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
If the superdelegates don’t “get it” this time they will not be serving the best interests of Democratic Party or the American voters.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
I actually heard what it is that everyone is so upset about. I’m an African American 25 year old attorney. Honestly, Clinton did feel a sense of entitlement to the position. Whether race was the reason or simply the ridiculous degree of hubris that the Clintons have always exhibited (I also worked as an intern for Senator Clinton in 2003), there is something very true about what the priest said.
That said, there is also a racial component to this race that Clinton introduced. For instance, saying, “I can get middle class WHITE blue collar voters” as opposed to saying, “I can get middle class blue collar voters” presents no substantive differences. It simply reminds people that maybe white people don’t want to vote for a black guy. that might be true in some places. And if race is the main reason they don’t vote for him, they’re racists. This coming from a person who grew up in Birmingham, Alabama, I know racism is real and that it exists.
All that said, I thought that priest was funny. I think he had a great point. Clinton cried when she was told to, in order to recapture New Hampshire after Iowa chose Obama.
So guys, calm down. “Don’t blame me; I voted for Clinton?!” give me a break. She would have been a terrible president, having to wage a war on the economy, on the middle east and on her husband trying to take the position from her.
Go Obama!
Posted by: lawguy25 | May 29, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
MemyselfandI–get over yourself. Everyday I turn on the television and race is injected into constant conversations. When someone who is “affiliated” by any means says something about race then it is automatically attributed to Obama. How does what one person says automatically makes it Obama’s view point?
I just find it hilarious how some people get on these blogs and say Obama needs to drop out because his cousins uncle’s sister twice removed said something about race AND now I’m not voting for him. Truth is–you never were going to vote for him and you will make up ANY excuse to dislike him.
Then some of you get all offended when someone (Obama didnt say it) says anything about race and you will give benefit of doubt to someone who references their staying in this race because they think Obama may be assasinated.
I just find some of you bloggers to be full of it!
Posted by: MH | May 29, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Wow.
I see a lot of passion, but not much thought.
Racism would be dead if it was not for speeches such as this, for actions such as this.
Yes, I’m white. My wife is black. My children are beautiful. I have a 401K. I have a pension. I have savings, and I worked very hard to achieve this, not for myself, but for my children.
Look to the future my friends. Put the past behind, as it cannot be changed; the future, however, the future is ours.
Vote intelligently. Vote thoughtfully. Vote freely. Vote independantly. Vote for change.
I personally will be voting for Ralph Nader – maybe you will too?
Posted by: MikeyG | May 29, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
To repeat:
Very strange that Mua, Huh?, Wm in Florida, and Nat Turner all have the same IP.
If an Obama supporter’s utterances fall on deaf ears, could one assume that they never said anything?
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
When I read this post, I understand now. Many of you are not voting for a President because you care about this country. This is supposed to be payback. Great.
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 29, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
How do you know that Clinton felt a sense of entitlement. Do you know her personally? Did you ask her how she feels?
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Actions speak louder than Obama’s words. He still is a member of that church. Let’s see how fast he gets on the news and says he’s left that church…
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Latinos for McCain. We can not trust Obama Hussein
Posted by: Texaslobo | May 29, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Frank…so?
Obama can SAY anything he wants AFTER the fact. This is just the tip of the iceburg …oh wait…I thought that was Wright…or Ayers…or Rezko…
Keep them coming…and keep your eyes and ears closed…Obama is unelectable.
He has been friends….yes…friends with this guy for years. He has known him since Obama was working to register new voters. Does anyone know what their slogan was…when he was a community activist?
It’s all about POWER…and guess what their logo was…the Black Power fist.
not very inclusive..though I guess it can be understood since Obama was involved. So much for We are the World huh.
Not trying to be hateful, but it does seem to propagate black vs. white
Posted by: Love the USA | May 29, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
More slurs against white people, this time made by the new priest. Again, the audience in joyous response, then God is thanked for these lovely words. Gotta say I’m really disgusted, hope Barack Obama goes back to Chicago and becomes President of the wonderful church he is so committed to.
Posted by: Becky | May 29, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Why does this dumb white man have to change his voice to sound as if he is black? Exactly what is he trying to prove? The apology he issued is not genuine. If he were sorry he wouldn’t have done it in the first place. What a huge hypocrite just like Obama.
Posted by: lolo | May 29, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
mpwdc
I am not sure if he would leave the church. People would just ask why he didn’t do it earlier. But of course he wears the lapel pin every day now…lol.
I just do not get why his supporters still support him. Have they not researched his past? They close their eyes to everything. They WANT to believe in the Obama “brand” that brought them to the “movement” in the first place.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Actually, I would use entitled to describe Obama. He is the on with a small resume.
Posted by: granny | May 29, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Another one of his racist friends degrading a former First Lady and one that is running for President. I’m surprised he didn’t show his middle finger too.
This pile just keeps getting deeper and deeper. Obama should just quietly go away. What are the people pushing this dangerous man thinking?
Posted by: John | May 29, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
ITS ON C NN!!!! right now!!
Posted by: ohboy | May 29, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
LonghornMama: The reason any Democrat would vote for McCain over Obama is that we are Americans first, Democrats second. We care whether or not the President of ALL of us is a racist. We care whether or not the President of ALL of us is competent to serve. We care whether or not the President of ALL of us can be trusted to do what is best for America and for ALL Americans. That’s why we will vote for McCain and not Obama. If the superdelegates come out of their stupor and give Sen Clinton the nomination, we will vote for Sen Clinton.If that should happen , we’ll see how you are with the shoe on the other foot.
Posted by: mpwdc | May 29, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Are we just a wee bit paranoid Wm/Nat?
Very strange that Mua, Huh?, Wm in Florida, and Nat Turner all have the same IP.
If an Obama supporter’s utterances fall on deaf ears, could one assume that they never said anything?
Posted by: West Texas | May 29, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Oh NO!!!
I see another “Race Speech” coming…
Just another opportunity for Obama to get MORE media time.
Posted by: Mark in LA | May 29, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
HRC says something that’s not directed to Obama and she’s castigated.
A pastor who endorsed McCain says something awful and the media is up in arms.
Obama’s friend, ally and contributor is introduced by his current pastor as a “brother’ and then goes on to call Hillary Clinton a white supemicist from the pulpit and Obama supporters blame Clinton.
Unbelievable.
Posted by: josgirl | May 29, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
I’m not religious, mpwdc, but AMEN!
Posted by: Mack | May 29, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Who does one call to start the revocation of the tax exempt status of Father Pleger’s sexist, anti-white church?
Posted by: roger king | May 29, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Posted by: geevill | May 29, 2008 10:30:44 PM
for some reason i saved those websites the first time i saw them. now i am able to send them to friends…..quite a shock to most.
Posted by: lolo | May 29, 2008 10:30:22 PM
interesting how so much of what bho says or does, or people he knows, say or do, then need clarification or disavowment. they are a sleezy lot.
Posted by: pp | May 29, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
what exactly did this guy say that was not true?
Posted by: evan | May 29, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Obama is a fraud.
Obama is unqualified and unelectable.
The Democrats would be really foolish to nominate Obama. Obama should have been fully vetted a long time ago and then the Dems would not find themselves in this terrible situation. The Dems would be wise to remember that 58% of their voters are women and for decades women have been majority voting block of the party and women overwhelmingly want Hillary!
If it’s not Hillary then it’s McCain to protest the party’s stupidity and failure to denounce the rampant sexism, racism, classism and voter disenfranchisement practiced by Barack Obama.
There is still time for the Dems to see the light and nominate Hillary Clinton at the convention in August. The delegates are not really “pledged” to anyone, they can vote for whomever they wish. The job of the delegates is to nominate the most electable candidate for the general election. That candidate is and shall remain Hillary Rodham Clinton!
Rock on Hillary! Take it to the floor of the convention!
Posted by: J | May 29, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
What is most disturbing? This was spoken by a priest, or that the people in the pews were loving every minute of it?
I’m a Catholic, and I cannot imagine a priest mocking another human being like that ever – not to mention in front of a cheering congregation.
Posted by: Sarah | May 29, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Wow.
I see a lot of passion, but not much thought.
Racism would be dead if it was not for speeches such as this, for actions such as this.
Yes, I’m white. My wife is black. My children are beautiful. I have a 401K. I have a pension. I have savings, and I worked very hard to achieve this, not for myself, but for my children.
Look to the future my friends. Put the past behind, as it cannot be changed; the future, however, the future is ours.
Vote intelligently. Vote thoughtfully. Vote freely. Vote independantly. Vote for change.
I personally will be voting for Ralph Nader – maybe you will too?
Posted by: mikey | May 29, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Obama you are suppose to be a role model- setting the tone and leading by example. Shame on you for disappointing our youth with your associations. You claim to be NEW Politics and claim to be CHANGE to bring HOPE and to UNITE??? You’ve done everything but the above. Your values and morals- along with your politics and policies are for sale- you my friend are a FRAUD!
Posted by: Not supporting Obama any longer! | May 29, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Try to IMAGINE the fallout if there were a BLACK clergyman at a WHITE church mocking Barack Obama, his wife, his sense of entitlement, and his being black…with white people cheering and applauding as they listen to this racist garbage?
Can you imagine what the taking heads on NBC, MSNBC, CNN and all the “news” stations that have been so pro-Obama all along would say? Can you imagine how Keith Obama Olbermann would rant and whine?
What is being said at the pulpit of Obama’s church of 20 years is UNBELIEVABLE!!
I have voted for the Democratic nominee in EVERY Presidential election up until now. Unless Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, I will vote for and financially support John McCain.
In all good conscience, I would NEVER VOTE for Barack Obama. By association, he is a racist.
Obama has no significant experience that would even qualify him to be taken as a serious candidate for Commander in Chief. To run with such a THIN resume shows that Obama is filled with HUBRIS. Michelle Obama… “for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country”…HUBRIS!!
Posted by: Nancy C. | May 29, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
with friends like these … once again calls his ‘judgment’ into question.
Posted by: buzzzed.com | May 29, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Obama must think I am a fool! He supported this going on in his church for 20 years and JUST NOW he thinks it is wrong. Sorry Barry this bitter typical white male is not voting for your sorry a$$.
Posted by: steve | May 29, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
I watched this video 30 mins ago and I am still in shock! This is top shelf fodder for the Republicans to use against Obama should he be the nominee. They are cutting the commercials as I type.
Super Delegates…WAKE UP and save us from utter failure in November!!!
Posted by: Disgusted Democrat | May 29, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Did Father Pfleger take us to war under false pretenses? Nice to see that ABC News, once again, has its priorities straight.
Posted by: Michele | May 29, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
WM in Florida, maybe we will all be the courageous souls who kept America from having this guy become President. I want to see the media burn up the airwaves with this like they did that ridiculous non-sense from Memorial Day about Hillary. Call the DNC. Tell Howard and Nancy you won’t allow him to be the candidate!!!
Posted by: LonghornMama | May 29, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Jennifer, I am more of a Democrat than you will ever be. And I will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee.
Have a great day!!!!
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 29, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Really, the fact that he even said that if he offended Senator Clinton or anyone else that he was deeply sorry is a joke. I really doubt his sincerity and his behavior in the video was far from an error in judgment since he just went on and on. There seems to be little remorse and his apology was lack luster. It is also nice how Obama has tried to hide him and his support and say that his views don’t represent Obama’s. It is hard to believe that those people around him don’t share his views or have similar beliefs and time and time again he has tried to cover up those people who are closest to him. He says that these comments don’t represent his views or values, but who values does he share- Michelle’s?!! It is a shame that he has to keep making excuses for the people around him but people rarely become good friends without some views or values in common.
Posted by: A | May 29, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Really, the fact that he even said that if he offended Senator Clinton or anyone else that he was deeply sorry is a joke. I really doubt his sincerity and his behavior in the video was far from an error in judgment since he just went on and on. There seems to be little remorse and his apology was lack luster. It is also nice how Obama has tried to hide him and his support and say that his views don’t represent Obama’s. It is hard to believe that those people around him don’t share his views or have similar beliefs and time and time again he has tried to cover up those people who are closest to him. He says that these comments don’t represent his views or values, but who values does he share- Michelle’s?!! It is a shame that he has to keep making excuses for the people around him but people rarely become good friends without some views or values in common.
Posted by: A | May 29, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Nancy, … me too. if Hillary is not the nominee, I’ll be working for McCain. I’m sure he will have a huge team. He wont need it and he wont need that much money. McCain will have so many supporters.
Posted by: No Thank You | May 29, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
The story is so obvious. To get elected in IL, Obama caters to these relgious people at the Trinity Church and other prominent people in Illinois that are radical left wingers. Now, that Obama doesn’t need them anymore, cuz he thinks he’s clinched the nomination due to his charm and charisma, he dumps them all. Will he dump the American people too when he’s talking to Iran and Cuba? He won’t need us anymore cuz he’s already been elected (NOT).
Posted by: bluebird | May 29, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Jennifer May I remind you that any Supreme Court nominee needs to be approved by a majority of the Senate.
The make-up of the Senate is as important as who is President. May I also remind you that the Judge who wrote the majority opinion on Roe vs. Wade was the Republican Judge Harry Blackmun from the State in which I live, MN, and was an appointee of Richard Nixon.
Posted by: alpaig | May 29, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
DON’T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn’t it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children’s suffering.
With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.
The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton’s do very well.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party’s back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.
You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don’t let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.
And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”
Posted by: jacksmith | May 29, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
No Thank You
WHY DOES EVERY ONE WHO LIKES OBAMA HAVE TO BE PAID TO YOU GUYS!!
OBAMA BEAT HILLAR 33 CONTESTS TO 18
33-18 ALL THIS TALK THAT HE HAS STOLEN THIS FROM HILARY GIVE ME A BREAK SHE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE!
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
How many more radical, racist associations of Barack Obama have to come forward before the super delegates are going to wake up? This man cannot win the general election! Support Hillary and save this election and the Democratic party now!
Posted by: Joan | May 29, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Kate, you should go to CNN – They LOVE obama there,…. so much that they wont even report the news.
Posted by: No Thank You | May 29, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
dan:
Obama never mentioned race at all until Geraldine Ferraro started it?????
Please,……he didn’t have to. Reverend Wright (his mentor, father figure and spiritual advisor) said it all for Obama right after 9/11, long before Geraldine Ferraro ever said a word.
Posted by: SandyB | May 29, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
No Thank You
Cive me a break cnn is the
Clinton News Network
Posted by: Kate | May 29, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
JACKSMITH – Thank you for taking the time to write such a good blogg and keeping the truth.
Posted by: No Thank You | May 30, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Posted by: alpaig | May 29, 2008 11:51:06 PM
The whole roe v. wade was replaced by Neighborhood Planning v. something calling for partial term abortions. Roe v. Wade is old, there is new precedent. That being said, the SC thing is just a liberal scare tactic to get you to vote for Obama if Hillary is not on the nominee. You are right, the nomination process for an SJC justice has to go through congress. Its tedious and not easy. I’m not worried about it, I’ll be voting for McCain if not Hillary. (i’ll even send him money and make campaign for him.)
Posted by: bluebird | May 30, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
kate Oh please, enough with spouting Obama’s experience as a State Senator representing District 13. Can you tell me who all your State Senator’s are (not to be confused with the U.S. Senators from your State)? Obama was not a Governor coming in with experience managing a bureacracy or dealing with legislatures or as a Washington Outsider. He is a one term U.S. Senator who spent the first half of this term exploring a Presidential run and the latter part of his term running for President. Since he was so focused on his Presidential aspirations (and people talk about Clinton’s aspirations , at least she finished her first term and actually did the work) he only made it 82% of the time to vote (which is an extremely poor rating), couldn’t put together one hearing on his Foreign Relations subcommittee on European Affairs, didn’t take take the opportunity to acquire the knowledge, perspective and experience in foreign policy that these committees afford those in the U.S. Senate and could also explain why he didn’t say peep about Iraq for almost two years in the U.S. Senate until he decided to run for President. In regards to experience, George Bush Sr. came into the Presidency with probably the most foreign policy experience of any President in recent history ( Director of CIA, envoy to China, U.S. Representative to the U.N. and a two term Vice President) and if there is any reason to question the value of experience one only needs to look at George Sr’s handling of Iraq in comparison to his doofus son’s . In fact Obama has stated that he wants to bring us back to the foreign policy traditions of George Sr and Reagan.
Posted by: alpaig | May 30, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
virginia,
“What kind of cult is this church? I think the FBI needs to be investigating all of these people that preach and attend this hate filled church!! Sounds like it could be inhabited by terroists!!”
The Preist making the comment is Catholic
Father Michael Pfleger
FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
bluebird We’re on the same page. Clinton or McCain.
Posted by: alpaig | May 30, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Im Voting for OBAMA
BUT THERE IS A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT RON PAUL!
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
This is the last straw, welcome back Hillary.
Posted by: John W. in FL | May 30, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
He says
” and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”
IF..IF..If they offended??? They were downright disgusting and vile. Here’s another 20 year old friend who Obama used on his campaign previously and you can’t tell me this priest thought it would be fun to sound outrageous just this one Sunday unless he believed exactly what he was saying all along. Politics of old and you can tell who you are by the friends you keep.
Posted by: Patty | May 30, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
LA in Indiana —- You are misguided — the point is that Obama’s congregation has listened to this “drivel” for the last 20 YEARS!!! Listen to the audio — the congregation is “CHEERING”, saying “amen” and “Yes sir”. Pathetic!!
Posted by: Mark in Indiana | May 30, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
bluebird We’re on the same page. Clinton or McCain.
Thanks Kate. There are many, many of us.
Posted by: bluebird | May 30, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Rev. Wright’s statements have not bothered me for two reasons. One, he said some things that were unflattering about the US, but they were true and needed to be said. Some things he said were excessive, but that happens when you are justifiably angry and are sounding off. I am white and a little younger than the Rev., and I witnessed some of the brutal repression experienced by blacks in the 50′s and 60′s.
However, Pleger, and especially the warm embrace by this congregation of his outragous comments, bother me a lot. I agree that Hillary indeed has a sense of entitlement and cannot take it when she is not universally adored.
But the insane idea of reparations angers this liberal Democrat just as the insane idea of invading Iraq did. People in dire straits should be helped on the basis of need, not ethnicity. The life of everyone on the planet, regardless of ethnicity, is affected by their circumstance of birth.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Kate —- DON’T vote for Obama if you really like Ron Paul. They are 100% opposite— Paul likes SMALL government, Obama wants BIG government. Paul wants laws based on teh constitution…. Obama wants socialism.
Posted by: Mark In Indiana | May 30, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
jacksmith
Operation Chaos,” Operation Chaos,” Operation Chaos,” Operation Chaos,”
HILLAY GOT THE REPUBLICAN VOTES
In February 2008, Limbaugh announced “Operation Chaos,” a political call to action with the initial plan to have voters of the Republican Party temporarily cross over to vote in the Democratic primary and vote for Hillary Clinton, who at the time was in the midst of losing eleven straight primary contests to Barack Obama.
According to CNN exit polls in Indiana, 13.4% of Clinton primary voters would vote against Clinton and for McCain in the General Election, if Clinton is the nominee
Further evidence that Operation Chaos may be skewing polls was provided by Sen. Clinton’s May 21, 2008, overwhelming win of 65% to Obama’s 30% in Kentucky. According to CNN exit polls, 41% of Clinton supporters said they’d cast their vote for McCain, and 23% said they would not vote at all
Fight with truth hillary lost fair and square
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
bluebird We’re on the same page. Clinton or McCain.
I meant thanks Alpaig. There are many, many of us.
Posted by: bluebird | May 30, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
The Democrats have the election sewn
up! Obama can get billions from “small”
donors (and Georgie Soros)! Republicans
are toast!
Obama is the next McGovern. Learn it..live it…love it. And you’re
really going to get Bill mad if you
nominate him.
Posted by: hombre | May 30, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
To awguy25 who wrote:
That said, there is also a racial component to this race that Clinton introduced. For instance, saying, “I can get middle class WHITE blue collar voters” as opposed to saying, “I can get middle class blue collar voters” presents no substantive differences. It simply reminds people that maybe white people don’t want to vote for a black guy.
————————-
Perhaps you should send your suggestion to all the media because it is them who have divided up the electorate into neat little pockets of black and white, rich and poor, literate and illiterate, every time there is an election as they state their exit polls. It is them who ask these questions from the voters and it gets repeated. It seems it is racist for Hillary to repeat the exit polls but not racist for the media to report them originally or even ask the questions in the first place.
Posted by: Patty | May 30, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Dennis — You mentioned that Obama’s pastor experienced “some of the brutal repression experienced by blacks” in the 50′s and 60′s —- but this in untrue ——- Described by Obama as his sounding board and mentor for more than two decades, Wright was born in Philadelphia in 1941. He lived in a racially mixed section called Germantown, which consisted of homes on broad tree-lined streets in northwest Philadelphia. The owners then were middle-class families. He went to priviledged schools — it is all “Blow-hard mentality” to seduce the uninformed!!!!!
Posted by: Mark in Indiana | May 30, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Mark In Indiana,
i DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GET YOU NEWS OR WHAT YOUR FRIENDS HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT BARACK I THINK YOU NEED TO READ UP ON HIM SOME MORE !
HE TAUGHT THE CONTITUTION AND BELIEVES IN IT.
HE DOESNT WANT BIG GOVERNMENT HE WASNT TO SHRINK IT.
I HAVE READ RON PAULS VIEWS AND OBAMAS
I LIKE THEM BOTH I JUST LIKE OBAMA MORE
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
I simply cannot believe that someone as unqualifed as Barack Obama is being seriously considered for the position of POTUS. This person is an empty suit, possessing only an ego that tells him he is ready for this “promotion”. Shame on him for foisting himself on this country.
We need intelligence, dedication, experience and a policy wonk in the WH after suffering through 8 years of “leadership” by one of the dumbest human beings ever imagined. And Barck Obama is second only to GWB.
Shame on him.
Posted by: Masha | May 30, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
bluebird, out of 300 million Americans I am sure there are a lot of you. Big deal. There are also a lot of Democrats who would not vote for Hillary unless she were were running against Dubya himself.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Katerina- you answered your own question.
Yes and this just proves it. Another too little, too late truth about Obama.
Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | May 30, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Obama will be a sock puppet president
Posted by: gee | May 30, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
obama never talk negative about Hilary, but he used his mentors Rev.Wright and Father Michael Pfleger to do it for him
Posted by: tricki | May 30, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Mark in Indian, that is nice, but perhaps you should address what I said. I said “blacks”, not the Rev. specifically, suffered severe repression. And I saw it.
Either way, many of the unflattering things he said were true and needed to be said. The so-called liberal press is afraid to address such issues of why were we attacked on 9/11 because they are in reality just corporations not wanting to catch any flack. If you’re afraid of hearing the truth becaue it is unflattering, perhaps you’re either a Republican or need to be.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Enough of Obama.
This guy is laughable to even be in this race.
The DEMs shot themselves in the foot, again.
As a 35 year DEM, I’m leaving the party.
What a twisted bunch.
Adios.
Posted by: cate | May 30, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
If Hillary or John attended a white church that projected hate, racism and anti-american words, they would be impeached. What has our country become, when this is allowed to take place?
Posted by: Bob in FL | May 30, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Jeez, what kind of cloud does Obama live on? He thinks Afghanis speak Arabic, hasn’t had any hearings on Afghanistan while he’s the chair of the commitee, thinks a couple of Ag advisors can stop people in Afghanistan from growing poppies, doesn’t realize the church he’s belonged to for 20 years is racist and scary, doesn’t notice that the Reverends he’s listened to, even quoted, are racist demagogues, thinks there are 57 states, and thinks that most Americans like to eat arugula. What is up with this dude? Seriously.
Posted by: NTWR | May 30, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
The real Obama is coming into focus. I demand a re-vote, now that we have learned about this “character”.
Posted by: Chuck | May 30, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
I knew him, before I didn’t know him…but he was never like this when I did know him, before I didn’t.
Posted by: right2bright | May 30, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Obama is an outright liar. He’s listened to this garbage for so long that it just sounds mainstream to him – until someone points out that maybe it’s not.
Posted by: Connie | May 30, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
caate, I too think the party is coming apart. You would leave over Obama, and I could never vote for Hillary. Pelosi and cronies were elected and have done nothing to address issues for which they were elected. Until the party once again stands for something (like not invading nations that have done nothing to us), it will continue to self-destruct.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
And Axelrod is on the board of this church?
Chicago style politics from “a new type of politician”.
Obama is clueless, there is no way he can beat John McCain, Hillary is the only rationale choice if the democrats have a chance in November.
That is if the mighty unifier hasn’t completely obliterated the party by then.
Posted by: sue4hil | May 30, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Obama and his friends can actually make Bush look good !!!
Posted by: dalton | May 30, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
about this pastor. The people that say this pastor is horrible need to check some history book facts. Then you can come to a solid conclusion. This pastor is obviously filled with anger because he puts the shoe on the other foot. Ron Paul 08!!!!
Posted by: Nothin Creepy | May 30, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
EVERYONE has friends that have views on certain issues that do not coincide with our own. Those views do not reflect on you unless you partake in them. I have black friends, white friends and friends of other nationalities that have issues with cultures outside of their own. Granted, they are tactful enough not to voice them in a public forum, they (and many of the readers here) have prejudices of some sort. Hey – no harm done. We’re human. We have to work those issues out within ourselves.
Father Michael Pfleger was show boating. What he said was wrong. He had a thought and went with it… wrong move. I’d expect more from a man of The Cloth.
Now to get some of you riled… what he said wasn’t far from the truth. Without all of the joking and mocking it would have made sense. Still, he shouldn’t have said ANY of it. His comments should be a reflection of him – not Obama, the black church or black people.
Obama is correct for denouncing the comments that his cronies make. Their words are widening the gaps that separate all of the cultures in this country. Reverend Wright (again out of show boating arrogance) had to go public with more “talk”. And, once again, some of Wright’s statements and feelings are shared by many good Americans. Criticizing the state our country is in is not anti-American. Not acknowledging that there are MAJOR issues in this country is anti-American. It’s like a parent that defends, backs and clears the wrong-doings of their bad seed. It’s not going to make the problem go away. Ignoring issues just fuels them to burn another day.
I love this country – but, seriously… we need help. “Paradise Lost”?
Posted by: Q | May 30, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
People like that guy in the video scare me man… hey, nothing wrong with getting excited at church we should get exicted to hear true Gospel preaching, but that guy in the video, eww, he’s preaching anger and hate. Obama’s so-called “church” scares me and it should be a warning to the nation.
Posted by: apacalyps | May 30, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
Obama is best know for the people and groups he supports and associates with.
Summary:
Fr. Pfleger, Rev. Moss, Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Malcom X, PLO, Hamas, Resko, Auchi, Ayres and Dohrn.
Don’t you feel the warmth?
Posted by: Bob in FL | May 30, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
Obama must be wearing one of those exoskeleton things, because he can carry huge amounts of dead-weight on his back.
Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) | May 30, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
The democrats will come crawling back to Hillary, with hat in hand. Obama is not the nominee until Aug. 26, more of the super-delegates may “wise-up” to this empty suit.
Posted by: steve | May 30, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Malcom X is dead. How could Obama associate himself with Malcom? Most of the people on your little list are associated with Obama through the press. Most of the people on your list are folks that he has or will have to associate with.
Give me something else, Please.
Posted by: Q | May 30, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
What is it with the ministers in Chicago? Sounds like a SNL skit….
Posted by: d1carter | May 30, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
We do need more people saying many of the things that Rev. Wright has said. They should skip the hyperbole and some of the myths he talked about. But there is far too much silence on some of the things he addressed: Why were we attacked on 9/11? Why are there different sentences for using crack cocaine and using powder cocaine? (Users of the powder, and their friends, are the ones that write the laws.)
It might be easier to ignore issues, but they come back to bite us.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
There’s no use in even denying it anymore. Barack Obama is, at his core, the same hate-filled racist as these people. You cannot spend 20 yrs in this type of environment and not feel the same way. Any sensible decent person would have literally sprinted away from this church the first time they heard anything like this. Barack, no doubt, heard this type of thing on a regular basis for 2 full decades. Why deny his inner hate-filled racism?
I’d go as far as to say anyone who attends this church is not only a racist at heart, but more importantly- dangerous. If this man is elected leader of the free world, we are all screwed, and I don’t believe that to be hyperbole.
Posted by: TheBlueSite | May 30, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
I just saw Fr. Pfleger and his sermon at Trinity church, on FOX news. This was disgusting! If Obama has friends like this, he doesn’t need enemies. I will never, never, never vote for this fake, liar, hypocrite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Atisha | May 30, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Obama can’t distance himself because deep down he shares the same views. He doesn’t want to alienate those in the same ranks too much.
TheBlueSite
Posted by: TheBlueSite | May 30, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
I don’t believe in anyone of these candidates period. They are all out for power and nothing else. They pledge all sort of things , get elected and leave us hopeless again. Look, many of you Bush haters voted for him and now are washing your hands like Pontious Pilate.If Hillary, Obama, Mc Cain win they will do the same as the ones before them and at the end we are going to hate them and say the same things we say about the current one. The bottom line is this, we are not entitle to nothing, we must earn what we make and the Gov will never run our lives better that we can do for ourselves period. Down with the hipocracy.Grow up.
Posted by: idon'tbeliveinanyone | May 30, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Democrats, we need to take Donna Brazille and David Axelrod at their word, and other Obama endorsers and supporters, that the Democratic party now consists or is a make-up of a “new coalition” which consists of African Americans, youth and affluent whites and/or the far left. They arrogantly feel they don’t need anyone beyond the “new coalition”. I personally am thrilled to see the voter turnout among the young and African American voters and I totally understand their strong support of Obama and if I were young or African American I would unapologetically be in the Obama camp.
I do have a problem though with the far left and it’s hijacking of this party this election. A big part of the divide in this party is not over race or gender but rather far left vs. moderate/conservative Democrats, class and age. Both Obama and Clinton have clearly appealed to different voting blocs and since it is clear Obama will be the nominee the responsiblity lies with the Obama camp to embrace the other factions of this party and I see know indication of any intent to do so and in fact there appears to be more of an arrogant “we don’t need you” or “we’re not worried because they would never vote for McCain”. As brilliant as the Obama campaign has been they clearly are making some huge mistakes in that arrogance and dismissal of 49% of this party. About 1/4 of the Clinton supporters have already indicated they would vote for McCain and as time is going by Obama’s shine keeps diminishing and as that occurs more will inevitably jump ship and others who considered jumping over to the Dems side will reconsider and stay put. I am college educated and yet grew up in a blue collar household and the dismissal and treatment of this crucial voting bloc within the Democratic party which represents varied ethnicities and makes up 3/4 of this Country has been shameful. The media’s reperesentation and the Obama supporters comments dismissing this group as undeducated, racist, low class, toothless wonders hopefully will cost the Dems the election, again, this year. The Dems prove over and over again that even in a year such as this, where Mickey Mouse should be able to beat McCain, that they will inevitably screw it up and this year is no different. They are dismissing a huge voting bloc which has cost them the election in the past and when we have carried them (with Carter and Clinton) we won the Presidency. The demographics of this Country is changing but not as dramatically and soon enough for the this party to sit by in it’s arrogance and misguided confidence. I for one am thoroughly disgusted with the Dems this year. I believe there were better candidates to run then either Clinton or Obama and if given the two choices we’ve had our priority should be winning back the White House rather then symbolism and redemption and an opportunity for the far left to squeeze in their agenda (which is as twisted and reprehensible as their far right counterparts). So I comfortably will be jumping ship to McCain this year, another Dem overboard because this ship is sinking.
Posted by: alpaig | May 30, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
The Obama camp probably set this up so they can come out quickly and denounce the rhetoric like they didn’t during Wrightgate.
Posted by: flyboy777 | May 30, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
MY country guarantees me the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I will not allow a racist bigot like Obama to take any of those away from me.
Posted by: msm4hills | May 30, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
grace, do you have a reference about Hillary’s pastor? I’m bothered by this church of Obama’s, but people forget about all the sleazy and convicted long time friends of Hillary’s we learned about in the 90′s.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Just words.
Posted by: Travis1 | May 30, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
What concern me the most is that these pastors are preaching hateful messages against one of our first lady of the US. If Hillary were a republican or Nancy Reagan, any other GOP first lady, the GOP party would not have it. The republican would shut down the media and these pastors for their hate messages. It appears that Obama’s people and the DNC are trying very hard to destroy Hillary and Bill because they are not liberal like them. But, we are not going to let it happen. As of today, we will stand up against the media, Obama’s pastors and the DNC.
Posted by: Willie | May 30, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Isn’t it illegal to endorse a candidate from the pulpit? Trinity needs their tax exempt status removed immediately!
Posted by: davenp35 | May 30, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
I’m paying taxes to these morons???
Posted by: DfDeportation | May 30, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
alpaig, there were other candidates of diverse philosophies and experience early in the primaries. We have these two now because that is who the people chose. People complain about not having choices, but that is a lie. They collectively get whom they choose.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Karen Pfleger was just on Obama’s faith committe up until a couple weeks ago. So how do you explain that? or how does that fit in with your Obama hasn’t been in the church for a year defense?
Obama has created his own problems with his associations (as is true of all the candidates) and has no one but himself to blame.
Posted by: alpaig | May 30, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
Can anyone say “suck up”?
The Church needs to excommunicate this man. As a Catholic I’m embarrassed that he’s a priest and I have no respect for him. In fact, he’s pro-choice which is ex-communicable in the Catholic Church. He needs to go.
This is great for Obama. Say what you want about the preachers, whom he disavows, but he says he won’t disavow his church. Man, look at those parishoners whooping it up over his comments!
Keep it coming, Trinity, keep it coming.
Posted by: Amy Proctor | May 30, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
DennisNC I agree totally. The Dem voters voted these two in but in particular with Clinton at the beginning and Obama after Iowa, for us to not acknowledge that the mainstream media and the powers that be within the Democratic party didn’t have some impact on the voters would be remiss.
Posted by: alpaig | May 30, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Karen:
What does it matter that he has not set foot in that church for a year because he has been campaigning?
It is not so much the church as it is the man himself. Obama’s relationship with this man goes back 20 years (just like Reverend Wright), and has continued during his campaign. Obama stated in 2004 that this priest was one of his top three spiritual influences.
The congregants at this church were rolling in the aisles over what this “Father” had to say about the former first lady. I doubt seriously if everyone attending church that day had only joined the church during the last year since Obama’s non-attendance due to campaigning.
Posted by: SandyB | May 30, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
TheBlueSite WROTE: There’s no use in even denying it anymore. Barack Obama is, at his core, the same hate-filled racist as these people. You cannot spend 20 yrs in this type of environment and not feel the same way. Any sensible decent person would have literally sprinted away from this church the first time they heard anything like this. Barack, no doubt, heard this type of thing on a regular basis for 2 full decades. Why deny his inner hate-filled racism?
I’d go as far as to say anyone who attends this church is not only a racist at heart, but more importantly- dangerous. If this man is elected leader of the free world, we are all screwed, and I don’t believe that to be hyperbole.
AMEN!
Posted by: funky chicken | May 30, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
We been conned. We done been had! Now what we do, Daddy?
Posted by: caroux | May 30, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Since when do Catholic priests wear Nehru jackets??
Posted by: AprilOrit | May 30, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
I’m both saddened and tickled at how fickle most of the above comments are. Why are so many Americans in denial of the latent racism that exists in this society? Looking from Europe, I find it painfully contradictory that a country that claims to be a champion of individual freedoms freaks out when people speak their truths. I don’t know much about what this latest pastor has seen or experienced, but surely if he or his congregation have experienced racism they should not be condemned for saying so. And, while we’re on the subject of self-honesty, do you really want a country in which only convenient lies are publicly spoken, and in which bitter truths are capsuled? Do you really want a President who will censor those around him (and yes, get over it, it will be a ‘him’ this time unless the racists prevail in distorting the rules)? No wonder so many of you prefer McCain (another Bush character). Someone mentioned Hamas’ preference for Obama: have you thought to reflect that maybe this means that under President Obama America just might, for the first time in decades, broker a lasting peace in the Middle East, in both Israel’s and Palestine’s and the broader wold’s interest? Finally, remember that it is only two decades ago that America and Europe used to label Mandela and the ANC as a terrorists! Be smarter and vote for the potential for meaningful peace, for tangible change. Be wiser and stop your knee-jerk denials. Be American and vote for diversity of opinion and the richness that it brings to your society and the world.
Posted by: Hans | May 30, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
I hope the super-delegates was watching this Obama friend and supporter. Fr. Pfleger was on Obama’s web site giving testimony for him. I think the cat is out of the bag.
***** Anybody but Obama *****
Posted by: martha | May 30, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Yes, alpaig, but everything everyone does everyday is influnced by a number of factors. Why would we not expect political parties, media and everyone else to not have favorites? People need to take responsibility for their actions (votes, in this case) when they have the final say so on them.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Racism is alive and well at Obama’s church, again.
Posted by: Bob in NC | May 30, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
What is it about Obama that “inspires” public debacles as appalling as Wright’s and Pfleger’s? SCARY, and I am a Catholic. I am downright embarrassed by Pfleger and hope he will be severely disciplined. GO HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Marian O'Brien | May 30, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
I can only think of the teachings of Christians and the Bible. For after all, it was Jesus who said that “ye shall know him by the company he keeps.” Obama has been keeping company with this man for a long time.
Posted by: paul in FL | May 30, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
At least Hillary goes to black events she’s invited to. Even with only get 10% of the black vote.
She doesn’t feel entitled to get it, she works for the vote.
Where as Obama and his wife said that “black folks will get it.” And don’t bother to show up to black events…because they don’t have to.
They have this self-hating preacher get up and shuck and jive for black people in the church…and black people say, “See this white guy speaks the truth”. Yup all white people are to blame for everything happening in the United States.
I know when I see a woman walking down my ‘hood with five kids from five different men I say to myself, “Yup it’s a white conspiracy why she got preganant five times by five different guys.”
There is inherent racism in this country, just like there is inherent sexism in this country…but for people who run around blaming others 24/7, you’ll get nowhere in life. Your job is to work against the system not simply point your finger.
Americans are at the core very lazy thinkers. The most simplistic answer will always suffice.
“They’re oppressing us.”
“They’re taking our jobs.”
“They started the war because they attacked us first.”
Things are more complicated than you simpletons will ever realize. And sitting around putting all your eggs into the “hope” basket won’t do a damn thing for you in the end.
Honestly this country doesn’t deserve a leader like Hillary.
She goes into small venues and large venues…black and white…she campaigns everywhere not only in places where she’s sure to win. She goes in places where she has to answer questions and for things that are completely fabricated by the media and Obama supporters…and keeps on trucking.
This guy runs from debates, runs from his votes on Iraq, runs from states that are supposedly “racist”, and runs from the pastors he’s had associations with for dozens of years.
And excuse after excuse is given for his worthless cowardly and divisive behavior.
Run third party Hillary, this African-American woman? Is ready to vote for you.
Down with the Democrats. Time for a third choice.
Posted by: Miss Malevolent | May 30, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
from true truth’s post:
“from CNN
In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago’s gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.
As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers,”
Thank you for reminding me.
Yep!
That’s the Obama for whom I’ll never vote!
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Questioner | May 30, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
I think it is high time Obama cuts off his relationship from that church. It is really hurting him than helping. Am black and I will understand. Anytime they cough, it will be front page headlines. A catholic white pastor makes a comment, it is the church and Obama’s fault. People that really will not vote for him because he is black, are looking for excuses to point to.
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Whatever any Obama supporter says, one reality remains. Hillary gave UNCONDITIONAL support for the invasion of Iraq, perhaps the worst thing this country has done since the war in Vietnam. She was not duped. Perhaps you can forgive that. I will not. Ever.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
When will you guys admit that Obama is a racist. These pastors didn’t just start saying this stuff in the last couple of months. Barack has stuck by them for years. If somebody at a mostly white church said this kind of stuff about black people the blacks would FREAK OUT. The double standards here are terrible. It’s sickening that this man has got this far.
McCain ’08
Posted by: Ryan | May 30, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
Everything has happen for a reason. This election has opened my eyes to the Democrat party. Maybe, this is a time, 17 millions Hillary’s supporters to start the third-party that have been missed in our election cycle. This angry black woman is ready to leave the DNC for some thing better and new. Third party is needed 2008 not 2012.
Posted by: cookie | May 30, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Ryan, and the person that made this comment is a white catholic priest. So what do you have to say about that?
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
To the ill informed person that said Hillary gave unconditional support…you need to get your facts straight.
And more to the point…Obama has voted for this war and to fund it. So I guess you’re not voting for anyone then.
His votes match Hillary’s…and I don’t care about his stupid speech…he wasn’t in the Senate…given his voting record, do you honestly believe with sincerity that he would’ve voted AGAINST the war? You’re fooling yourself.
The man at his very core is a coward. It is obvious now. He does only that which is political expeditious.
Posted by: miss malevolent | May 30, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Leslie, I detest Hillary. But everyone has a right to an attorney. No exceptions.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
A lot of people are graduating with PHD’s on Obama 101 courses. Pull him down. Anyone that coughs, its Obama. Any friend that has any connection to anything bad, it is Obama. Nobody condemned hagee or Parsley, but Obama must be crucified. It was a mistake that Hilary made refernce to Robert kennedy assasination as an excuse to be in the race as if that has any relevance to this particular situation and yet Obama was crucified for it. Please, I think Obama should just be arrested and put in jail till the elections are over so that a lot of Americans can be rest assured he will never become President.
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
The company someone chooses to keep is a measure of the person. It has been reported by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago SunTimes that Senator Obama has known the priest for years and was considered a friend by Obama. In addition, he was affiliated with Obama’s campaign as an advisor until a few weeks ago.
This calls into question at least 3 important issues: Senator Obama’s judgment; whether Senator Obama agrees with the views of those he has chosen to include in his campaign; and whether this further calls into question Senator Obama’s electability.
Posted by: dreffein | May 30, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Ryan, I read your comments. Thats why I asked you that you should also realise that this particular person is a White catholic Priest making those comments. It just happens to have been in a predominantly black congregation because the Priest also has white followership. So why must it be Obama’s fault or the Church’s. It is Obama’s to you because you are probably seeking some reason to bring him down. Guilty by association but nothing on him.
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
miss manevolent, I have my facts straight. There were six roll call votes on the resolution giving Bush the authority to invade. They determined the nature of the authorization. One called for the requirement of provocation before invading. Another called for an imminent threat before invading. She voted to require neither. Just as she did on the final vote giving the authorization.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
And you’re point is????????? That pastor is obviously racist and he’s ALL white. You have no leg to stand on.
Posted by: Ryan | May 30, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Leslie:
Obviously you do not work in a law firm, and certainly do not practice law.
If Hillary represented members of the Black Panthers, or pedophiles, she more than likely did so because it was her JOB to do so.
Representation by counsel for the accused is one of the rights provided in our country’s criminal justice system. It might be a dirty job (like cleaning the toilet), but someone has to do it.
If Hillary was right out of law school working in a law firm that possibly handled contract public defender cases (as the law office where I am employed does) for extra money, I am certain she did have opportunity to represent assorted clients who were charged with the most horrendous of crimes. But it was her JOB to do this.
Regarding your report on the 12-year-old girl, once again, whatever was said to this girl during cross-examination was done in the interest of “effective assistance of counsel.” Had she not cross-examined all of the witnesses to the best of her ability, she might have been liable for an ineffective assistance of counsel claim that sometmes lead to suspension of one’s law license.
This is simply the way our criminal justice system was designed, and it takes both sides, prosecution and defense, for it to work.
I don’t believe that sitting in Trinity Church and listening to an assortment of clergymen spout off about white hatred and the white boogeyman has ever been part of Obama’s job. It was obviously something he chose to do, and these were people he chose to associate with on a spiritual level, and not because he was earning a salary to do it.
Posted by: SandyB | May 30, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
You guys talk about this pastor like he just came to speak at Obama’s church. Like Obama hasn’t been friends with him for 20 years and at one point called him one of his top 3 spiritual advisors. One of the others was that racist Jeremiah Wright. Who is the third? Louis farrakhan? It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Posted by: Ryan | May 30, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Obama is a racist to which half. His history is filled with his white upbringing and nothing about his black. He sought to know about his other half, that’s why he went to work as a community organiser in south, south chicago. That’s a heroic story as far as am concerned. He may have stuck to his guns and continued to deny his other life like most people are wont to do but he chose to identify with them. I mean am black and i have seen blacks say he aint black enough. Thus, there is discrimination on him on both his white and black halfs and yet he is a racist. Now am asking racist to which half?
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Kate, you are correct. McCain is not a hero. He is also not a bad guy because he gave in under torture. Not all, but most people would. The military needs to create heroes for public consumption and will exaggerate and fabricate actions to do so. (e.g., Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch). With the accomplished military people in his family and his POW status, McCain was the perfect candidate to promote as hero.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
People are always quick to condemn. judge yourself before you judge others.
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Tell me Vuzous. Are his spiritual advisers white supremacists. NO, they are liberals who constantly whine about what “The man” has taken from them. You know the answer to your question. He might be half and half but in his mind he’s ALL black. Have you read his wife’s college papers? She’s just as racist as Wright is.
Posted by: Ryan | May 30, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
I am a Hillary supporter and a lifelong Democrat, but I will not vote for Obama and his camp of children masquerading as adults. As much as I hate to think of four more years of a Republican President, it would be nice if we could go the next four years without hearing some stupid garbage that a preacher at Obama’s church had to say, because I have certainly had my fill of it in the past few months. I wouldn’t hire any of this crowd to use the pooper scooper behind my dog, much less run the most important country in the free world.
Posted by: Melanie | May 30, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
Ryan,
Obama has made clear long ago where he stands on many, many issues.
No honest candidate will tell you exactly what they are going to do in office because they do not know. That comes later with more information and working with advisors. All we can do is look for candidates whom we think are heading in the right direction.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
Kate, stop talking about Hillary. She is done and was weeks ago. You guys better get ready for a real fight. 3 years in politics does not qualify you for President. If obama has the “Blueprint for change” why doesn’t he ever talk about it. All he ever does is talk trash about McCain.
And vuzous what are you talking about? Judging others?? You’re usually judged by the company you keep. Obama’s company is not good. Well, maybe for black people but that’s about it.
Posted by: Ryan | May 30, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Ryan, and it so happens that you are right there in Obama’s mind to know all his reasonings. You made me have a good laugh though tonight. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night. God night and God bless you. I said judge yourself before you judge others. Look at yourself and look out all your friends, have everyone one of them is perfect. Obama is not perfect and so is everyman on earth. If Obama is a bigot, then we are all bigots because we are all prejudiced in one way or the other. Good night Ryan. Gots to be at my job by eight this morning.
Posted by: vuzous | May 30, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Kate, the info I have on McCain is that he was tortured. Given the nature of military secrecy and manipulation, I don’t know if we will ever know all about what happened. Regardless, I don’t want McCain in office for what he stands for now.
I was in Nam, too. Infantry squad leader, spent 2 years in the hospital with my injuries. However, my dad was a Japanese POW in WWII, and a POW was the last thing I wanted to happen to me. I’m sure you dad suffered a lot.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
DennisNC,
I thank you for you and your families sevice, Dennis!
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
SandyB – The Clinton camp wanted this to be about race and that’s why they have been pushing everything they can to the media to build a racial divide. And by the way, the 10 second clip of Reverend Wright didn’t hit the news until long after Geraldine Ferraro made her comment. The Clintons put the spark to the fire and have been fanning the flames every chance they get. Her infamous “I remember landing under sniper fire”. Hillary’s first response was to deflect the news back to Reverend Wright which brought all the race comments right back to the forefront of the internet blogs. The only reason she admitted her lies is because there was more than one time on tape that she spouted the same lie. Don’t kid yourself, Hillary Clinton is a skilled lawyer and every one of her comments is thought-out and calculated which also explains her natural ability to spin the truth to fit her needs.
Posted by: dan | May 30, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
28 and I agree my spelling sucks ive grown up with spell checker at work and school.. i admit its shocking : )
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Ryan,
McCain is not Bush. But neither liberal nor conservative groups that monitor voting recoreds consider him to be a moderate.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
DAVID,
Anyone in the media who brings up what McBush did will be eaten alive asked why they havent served their country and how dare they look at what is being down to McClellan…
The prosters will be able to bring it up once the GE starts for real.. But no jurno is going to do it till then.
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Kate,
I’ve found a few sources that question McCain’s version of what happened when he was a POW. I don’t know about their cred, but I’ll keep looking.
Posted by: DennisNC | May 30, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Kate,
It is 3AM and you candidate McBush wakes up screaming in a cold sweat. He hears the helicopter gunships flying overhead.. In a irrational fit of rage he pushes the button…
Ya, that is the President I want…
I think I will take the guy that the founders recommended, the one with a Harvard Law Degree that doesn’t have post traumatic stress syndrome thank you…
Wow I am waiting here to be “eaten alive.” Hmm, nothing is happening…
Ha, ha, ha!!!!
Posted by: Davis | May 30, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
Wright under the bus for the sin of calling Obama a “politician”.
Pfleger cast into outer darkness for mocking Clinton as Obama is trying to get the women’s vote from Hillary’s clinging fingers.
Who’s next?
How about Rev. Meeks when Obama starts courting the gay vote… Meeks is rabidly anti-gay. It won’t look good to have him nearby when he raises money in San Francisco and elsewhere.
While running in Ill, he sought out their counsel and endorsements. These Pastors had their usefulness in Chicago politics, but they are no longer of any use now so Obama will have to cast them out!
He should have become an Episcopalian, Methodist or Baptist – a better national brand. There’s still time… a conversion before convention. He found God for politically expediant reasons the first time… why not find Him again.
Posted by: smartprimate | May 30, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
A year ago Fr Pfleger was rebuked by his Cardinal for calling for someone to be ‘snuffed out’ — now this! Why is this man STILL a Catholic Priest? Why hasn’t he been removed by his Bishop?
Posted by: Gomes | May 30, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am
“Hillary and McCain go hand in hand.Most Americans arent fooled we know alot of Republicans crossed over to try and help her get the Nomination.After Obama wins, all of the Republican cross overs will go back and re-register.
Posted by: Demo Rules | May 30, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am
So now some baby bloggers decide to attack John McCain’s patriotism and question his POW status.Obviously these are people that did not live through that time in American history. Probably misguided souls that are upset because Obama attended a racist hate filled church for 20 years and either “didn’t hear” the teachings there or just assumed they wouldn’t be “controversial.
This is the point. We may not get Hillary as a nomonee because of the media’s insistence on becoming an extension of the Obama campaign.
Mr Obama never stood up for me…perhaps it is because I am a “typical white person” He never left his church…
Mr Obama does no favors to my bi-racial grandson. The BLT philosopy is warmed over Marxism fed by Black victimization and the validation of White guilt. It is not mainstream even for Blacks. I do not believe anyone could attend that church for 20 years and not get the philosophy.
He may become our president. But not with my vote…or a large number of others that I know. McCain is a reasonable alternative.
No one has ever apologisized to Hillary Clinton for the racist and sexist attacks on her from Obama’s pulpit. This is a disgrace.
The Democratic Party can move on…I am not going with it to this media driven marketing of a candidate who does not represent me and who incorporates a vision for America that is offensive to many of us.
PS The Rezko story is not dead at all….just the first round…Obama and the IL Gov will be the stars in round 2.
Posted by: Jackie | May 30, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am
Hey, who let this story out? Somebody obviously didn’t get the memo that’s apparently been circulating at all the major media outlets: protect the Empty Suit at all costs!
Posted by: K.F. Miller | May 30, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am
THE TAPE:
“PRIEST MOCKS HILLARY”
** APPROVED **
Father Michael Pfleger deserves an Oscar! His rendition was exactly what Hillary thought, said, and DID!!
BRAVO !!
ENCORE !!
TAKE A BOW !!
Posted by: ChrisMeihass | May 30, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
David, the issue is not that Obama said these things, but instead that he is a member of a church that – judging from the crowd reactions – is obviously comfortable with racism. It’s very hard to believe these types of comments have not been said on a fairly regular basis in this congregation. If my pastor said these things about any group, I wouldn’t stay – nor would most Americans. The fact Obama did says a lot and makes him almost certain to lose this fall.
Posted by: K.F. Miller | May 30, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
HILLARY- PLEASE run as an Independant. As for Obama, I remember something my grandmother used to say: You can’t soar with the eagles if you fly with turkeys…Obama needs to stop hanging out with the turkeys. In 2008, Trinty Church needs to stop preaching hate.
Posted by: Soar with Eagles | May 30, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
I was planning on voting for Obama, but I can’t help to think there is something wrong here. He goes on and on about unity and change, yet he is surrounded by racists and people who hate America – there is just something wrong with this picture. I don’t like any of the other candidates, but how can one trust someone who looks and sounds so perfect yet hides behind such a strange past. Do we really know him ? How can we trust him as our leader ? I think it might be time to realize something is wrong here. I love this country too much to put someone in office who might have other motives…
Posted by: d | May 30, 2008, 5:59 am 5:59 am
The Fact is This.. What the Father Said Has Nothing to Do With Racism.. Everything He Stated Was the Truth (… and a bit of Comic Relief But Still The Truth) .. Imagine a Scenario Where Clinton is 1980 delegates and Obama Was 1780 delegates, Obama would have conceded a long time ago and accepted Defeat … Clinton on the other Hand Has this Mentality that She was Entitled to Be the Nominee without counting out the fact that to be a leader You must know How to Run a Good Campaign and not Rely on Old politics ( look to change the Map and don’t Let the Map Define You..) HRC is the main reason all this inbred and simmering Anger from people who are racially motivated is coming out right now.. I would rather let you know outright that i have a problem for you judging Me racially than bottle it up and disguise it as something other than racial (.. just because His middle name is Hussein i will not Vote for him … what if his first name was Jesus and yet he was still Black).. this country is not going to be divided if we all recognize that we are voting for a Person’s Policies and How they are going to help us succeed rather than relying on the idea that another Person’s presidency will benefit a particular group of people and not others. President Obama has run the best campaign ever ( … introduced new ideas rather than relying on old Ideas and he has revived a whole new generation of thinkers ) and he has played by the rules and genuinely won the nomination… What we need to do now as Americans is Support him and help him Build the Kind of America we want our future Relatives and Ourselves will like to live in and be Proud of… Long Live America and God bless ALL OF US ON EARTH….
Posted by: kimmysung | May 30, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am
I never want to be called a Democrat again.
Posted by: ConnectDots | May 30, 2008, 6:19 am 6:19 am
Just why is this newsworthy?
Disclaimer: There is nothing said by Obama, any of his Reverends, his wife or any of his underlings that is newsworthy.
Posted by: Rasputin3.14 | May 30, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am
Why are the Democrats so asleep?
Don’t they realize that Obama can not win this election?
He is having trouble with the following groups:
Whites
Catholics
Latinos
Swing States
Reagan Democrats
Women
Military Voters
Cubans
Jews
Evangelicals
The “big states”
Florida and Michigan will not vote for Obama because he hasn’t fought for them.
The African American and elitist in the country is not a winning ticket.
McCain will be the nominee if they don’t wake up soon.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | May 30, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am
How sad. Obama almost had me convinced to vote for him in November. Now I see yet another “kind, gentle” pastor he’s befriended – another who sounds like a racist. Makes me wonder about the kind of friends Obama keeps.
Now, here I am a staunch Democrat ready to vote for McCain in November. Maybe I won’t vote at all…
Posted by: John C | May 30, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am
Just how many more “mea culpas” are we going to get from Obama? How many more skeletons are waiting in the closet to come out?
The republicans are going to have a field day with Obama and all his associations. This is not the judgement I expect from a president that will run the most powerful nation in the world. This association with the Trinity church will be Obama’s achilles heel and will be exploited to no end.
He just can’t keep saying he denounces this person or that persons “words”, because “the chickens are coming home to roost”.
Obama’s strange bedfellows and his association to radicals will be the death of his candiacy for even the most liberal of democrats. Add to this the Move On organization endorsment and this guy is unelectable.
Just how much more do the superdelegates need to see, this candidate is unelectable? Again the DNC with Dean at the helm has let down the democratic faithful while shoving Obama down our throats.
If you feel the DNC has let you down during this election, it time for a “change” alright. We need a third party in this country that will listen to the voters, WE NEED TO REGISTER INDEPENDENT.
Posted by: '68 VNvet | May 30, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am
The effort to link Obama to this tirade is so unfair that reasonable people all across America will reject it. Obama cannot be held responsible for what others choose to say–it is a free country! Show me instead what Obama himself said, now and and in the past, that is unacceptable. We must condemn those who try to divide us; but their statements stand or fail on their own.
Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 30, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am
Is there any way Obama could be asked to get out of this race?
Posted by: Rick from Pa | May 30, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
jimbo: I agreed and this angry black woman will not vote for Obama. I will work hard to make sure he does not get into office. I am no longer a democrat as of yesterday.
Posted by: suzy | May 30, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
I saw it on TV this morning. This will set race relations back 100 years. Anyone that is intelligent will see through Obama, his church and his friends. The Republicans will have a field day this fall. They probably have a lot more on him than this that they are just holding back till the right time. Obama will be soundly defeated. The DNC people are stupid if they run him.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | May 30, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am
What if Obama believes this kind of racist hatred? He sure seems to have a lot of friends who spew it. The bottom line is that we don’t know nearly enough about Obama’s character to let him be president. He could easily be the biggest disaster in the history of the country.
Posted by: Doc Savage | May 30, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
Why is the Media, a Clinton Supporter crucifying Rev. Michael Pfleger, for what most of us have come to observe in this campaign is the truth.
The media is trying to make Father Pfleger out as an Obama supporter, but he has been one of the few that has had the courage to come out and speak the truth about the Old Guard Democrats that have hidden closet racist feelings.
The Clintons, Ferarros, Rendells, etc. have manipulated exploited & thrived on the white, catholic, blue collar & low income voters to get elected. Use your intelligence & study the exit polls.
It is sorry to say but Father Pfleger has got it right. This hidden bias & racism has surfaced at different times by the Clintons during the Clinton campaign. Bill Clinton is proud to say that his MENTOR & Close FRIEND was Sen. J. William Fulbright. A bitter, bigoted, segregationist from AK. But that’s only the tip of the Old Guard”s Demo Agenda. The Truth hurts!
Posted by: truth | May 30, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
DOC SAVAGE Correct me if I am wrong, But wasn’t NIXON and oh, BILL CLINTON a joke. Come on better than that.
Posted by: PittBull61 | May 30, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am
There is no way that I will ever vote for Obama.I have always been a democrate, and it will make no difference to me if Hillary backs him or not. If any one should drop out it should be Obama.
Posted by: Maria | May 30, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
PittBull61: This is way Obama will not win the GE. There many black men and women that will not vote for Obama. And, I am one of them. I do not want to be associated with any of Obama’s supporters such as you. This damned stupid black woman will not be voting for Obama. Obama is the reflection of his supporters.
Posted by: suzy | May 30, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
—-Not by what “Divides” us –but by what “Unites” us—-I am sure what Unites him is “MONEY”—-get a life Reverend—-
Posted by: Jesse James | May 30, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
I thought politics were not supposed to be preached in Church. I know my Church never does it because they would lose their tax exemptions. I think Trinity should lose theirs if they preach politics in the Church.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | May 30, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
Really hard to accept that Obama is probably going to be the candidate. He makes McCain look like the only reasonable and sane choice for POTUS. Obama should have moved to another church when the Wright issue surfaced. The DNC should not select Obama, no way.
Posted by: Lawrence | May 30, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Even to comment on this episode is a waste of time. No matter who wins the Democratic nomination, the country will remain divided along the racial lines. Unfortunately, Obama does not appear to be a candidate that can unite the Democrats. He has more baggage than one realizes.
Posted by: Kris | May 30, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
America! America! America! We can be so great, and yet, so petty. We are in dire straits and we opt to spend our energy on stupid rhetoric? PLEASE, LOOK BEYOND THE VEIL. Don’t get caught up in the media’s hype. Realize that this country is dealing with wars, home foreclosures, increased gas prices, many critical issues and you let the media ruffle your feathers about what – a preacher’s comments? Can’t you see the handwriting on the wall? The bottom line is we do need an executive change in this country. How can you go back and forth on this type stuff. It makes no sense. WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT AND IT’S SINKING. YOU’RE TELLING ME I’M DROWNING AND I’M TELLING YOU THAT YOU’RE DROWNING. You can quote someone saying something negative about Hillary and another can quote someone saying something negative about Obama. One gets more airtime and the other does not. IT’S ALL POLITICS – DIRTY POLITICS. Please, grow up and stick to the real issues, AMERICA!
Posted by: Dee | May 30, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Bill Cosby on Rev. Wright
Article from Wall Street Journal:
Rev.Wright epitomizes the thoughts and actions that have prevented and continue to prevent black America from moving ahead and achieving their potential as a people. He suggests that this United States of America made up of sons and daughters of immigrants (I’m talking of the millions of 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants in this country) of every race, creed, color and religion each and everyone of them who had nothing to do with slavery, some how owe something to a group of people who have never been slaves? Its amazing. It seems everyone is to blame for the shambles black society is in with its violence, drugs, high school drop out rates, misogyny, and a host of other real and virulent problems, except for the very people who engage in such behavior.
Enough. As a society, culture or people, they should look within themselves and fix their problems.
When did this man become the spokesman for the ‘black church’? And of course his church is different, but that doesn’t mean his message and philosophy is acceptable, or productive or non-offensive or not-racist or indicative or our greater cultural behaviors, values and norms Americans.
And yes, the link between this man and Obama really does matter. At a very minimum, it provides insight into the political and philosophical strain that Obama adheres to.
Comment by Bill Cosby
Posted by: granny | May 30, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
It must be another slow news day. This is not racist, he is saying what a lot of other people are saying. Hillary thinks she is entitled to the nomination.
Posted by: gapeach | May 30, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
This is the Obama statement I’m waiting for:
As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in my wife Michelle’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.”
Posted by: mesquito | May 30, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am
if you want to report on anything report on the radical religious right who want to blur the division between church and state, and take us back to the dark ages with a government similar to iran. face it religion should be a private thing, so get the religious crackpots out of politics
Posted by: marty | May 30, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
How many ties to Farrakhan do people need before they wake up? Obama is a supporter of his, he just won’t publicly acknowledge it. Remeber as Wright said, Obama is a politican and says what he has to as a politician. This priest called Farrakhan a gift from God. Wake the heck up people, Obama is not what he says he is. There are going to be some very, very, disappointed democrats come November when they realize they put all their eggs in the wrong basket. He cannot win. Period.
Posted by: Bob | May 30, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
barefootboy9: I am confuse with your replied or maybe your confuse with my message. I agreed a lot of democrats will be voting for McCain such as myself if Hillary is not on the ticket.
Posted by: suzy | May 30, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
I don’t see the problem. Sean Hannity have said the same thing about Hillary from the beginning. He said she felt she was entitled to the nomination. Hillary herself said that the race would be over by Super Tuesday. She did not plan past Feb. 5th. She got beat fair and square and can not get over it. This is why she is fighting tooth and nail to get this nomination. She feels entitled. Now all of a sudden, the race card is being played. HIllary and FoxNews has played it with the rural ,hard working, non-college degree “whites” in Kentucky and West Virgina will never vote for Obama. The funny thing is those two states are Republican states and Hiilary or Obama was not going to win those states in the fall. Until we abmit that we can’t just brush the sin of our fathers under the rug and pretend like it never happen, we will continue to have this conversation.
Posted by: hendu | May 30, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
THIS FOOLISH CATHOLIC PRIEST WAS TRYING TO BE FUNNY!! HE IS HILARIOUS!!!
Posted by: P | May 30, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
sen clinton has never suggested she was entitled to the presidency.
but the black people seem to think that just because obama is black he should be president, no matter how much he shows he is lacks understanding of the issues and is unable to speak plainly about the issues.
Posted by: america for all | May 30, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Obama is pathetic. He has no loyalty whatsoever. Is he going to start apologizing for and alienating all his friends in order to get into the white house? This whole process is an embarassing joke.
Posted by: Don | May 30, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
barefootboy9: I am confuse with your replied or maybe your confuse with my message. I agreed a lot of democrats will be voting for McCain such as myself if Hillary is not on the ticket.
Posted by: suzy
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suzy, I’m sorry. Misinterpeted your post. I agree that millions of democrats will vote Republican for the first time. I know a lot of them. I have never voted republican but will this time. Even though I’m a registered democrat, I consider myself an independent and vote for the man, not the party.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | May 30, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
I find it insulting that anyone in the news would think that because a pastor or anyone else’s actions would sway an intelligent person’s view for a candidate. What makes the media think the general public is that dumb. Please, stop showing clips of someone who will have not a damn thing to do with a candidate’s ability to oversee the country’s best interest.
Posted by: Erma Smith | May 30, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Why is everyone so upset over what this priest said? It’s only what people have been saying for a long time. Clinton feels that she is entitled to this because of Bill. Why is everything that a religious person, that had any relationship with Obama, says instantly reported to the nation> I have received emails regarding negative comments and actions about one of the Clintons former pastor and not one word has been in the news. It’s reported that one of her former ministers was recently sentenced for sexual misconduct, but I guess that’s OK. Never heard a word in the news. I’m sick and tired or hearing about Michigan and FLorida and how we should allow them to redo their primary because it will benefit Hillary. The rules had been established when they decided to have their primary early. They knew the consequenses of their actions. Now Hillary wants that changed. My own governor wants its changed. Again I say they knew the consequences of their actions, in advance. It needs to be left alone. At the beginning of this race, I was going to vote for Hillary. But with all the negativity, which started in her camp, I have since changed my mind. At this point, the party is divided, I’m sure you will say because of Obama, and it gets worse each day. I don’t know at this point if I will vote at all. It unfortunate that a lot of registered Democrates are beginning to say the same thing. Maybe that was the plan. Destroy the party and let the Republicans get back in so they can screw us for another four years.
Posted by: Sandy | May 30, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
barefootboy9: Thank for the clarification.
Posted by: suzy | May 30, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Obama wants us to associate him with old Uncle Charlie and his Grandfather who fought in WWII as though that makes Obama himself a patriotic American.
But we aren’t supposed to associate him with those who have been pivotal in his life for the past 20 years like Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, William Ayers, and Tony Rezko as though that makes Obama himself a racist, anti-American, corrupt politician.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 30, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
At a dinner a couple nights ago, 8 out of 9 of the registered democrats there are voting for McCain. It will be interesting to see this new phenomenon unfold. The DNC is going to be licking their wounds for decades. Maybe by then they will figure out how important it is to have good leadership and how very important it is to not put dividers up on ones own party.
Posted by: Wayne | May 30, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
Sandy…you HRC supporters will do just fine at letting the Reps back in. Most of you are so stupid you will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Whereas, the Obama supporters will vote Clinton( if she is the nom) for the good of the nation and party. Now who is stupid!!!
Posted by: formerhillary | May 30, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
Erma…they do this on purpose..I think there is al whole staff devoted to finidng crap on people. And it doesn’t help that the campaigns feed them. They must be sitting back and laughing at all this crap going back and forth.
Posted by: newvoter | May 30, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
How is what was siad by an Obama accquaintance his responsibility. Also, what he voiced was the truth though in an inartful manner. Did Hillary not say she has the “hard working white vote”. Also, do we hold her responsible for her husband’s sexual escapades and she is a heck of a lot closer to him than Obama is to the Catholic priest
Posted by: feminist50 | May 30, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
joey in ga: FoxNews showed the full tape. The Pastor was down on all White people as well as Hillary
Posted by: suzy | May 30, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
This isnt news, this is gossip and it is irrelavant. My friends and family often make absurd comments, but that doesnt mean i agree with them.
Posted by: na | May 30, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
because a pastor or anyone else’s actions would sway an intelligent person’s view for a candidate. What makes the media think the general public is that dumb. Please, stop showing clips of someone who will have not a damn thing to do with a candidate’s ability to oversee the country’s best interest.
Posted by: Erma Smith
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The clips are out there and we can’t stop them. Has been on our local TV station here in Fl two times that I know of this morning. A CBS station and I have a feeling it is on other TV stations also. I think this will do him in. If not the Republicans will bring out things that we have never heard of this fall. Obama is TOAST
Posted by: barefootboy9 | May 30, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
The only people Obama surrounds himself with are socialist nutcases. Sure he tries to distance himself when caught but if it walks like a duck and quacks, oh well. This is why the democrats are setting themselves up for a November defeat. Rush limbaugh’s Operation Chaos has worked. Our party has been infiltrated and control has been taken by the republicans. The baggage Obama comes with is enormous and the republicans will batter us with it. Obama may be the first black candidate with a serious run, but he will also be the first with a serious loss. If he gets the nomination, there is no way i can vote for this man. I thought politics was not supposed to occure from the pulpit. Maybe the IRS should revove the tax exempt status of this church and make them decalre themselves as what they are.
Posted by: Willie | May 30, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Snipits more snipits, HA HA HA HA what a joke, Obama chose his friends and now they are bitting him in the A##. I was always taught that you are judged by the company you keep.
Posted by: billy bob | May 30, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
You Obama supporters think we are all stupid or fools. When something happens in the white house you link it wth McCain, YOu linked all the mistakes of Bill to Hillary but when obama’s pastors slam whites in America you will say Obama doesnt know about it. Americans are not fools and we will fight against Obama in NOvember
Posted by: America will be liberated | May 30, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
I have a question as well as comments.
Why are we asked to vote in primeries.
They are telling us we are to stupid to pick a person to run for Presedent. It really doesn’t matter what the popular vote is. The reality is the only thing that counts is who the super delegates want. And they want the same thing they’ve wanted from the begining. They want Obama because they feel sure that MaCain will win. The currant administration has made more money for themselves than ever before why would they want to risk giving it up.
So save you time and give in we will all be in poverty but our leaders will be able to live in grand style and only work three months a year.
Posted by: teri | May 30, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
This guy is just another loudmouth who thinks that he’s closer to God than the rest of humanity. People need to shut up and remember that the presidency is a management position. If you have no management skills, you shouldn’t have the job. What has Barrack managed, what has Hilary managed, what has John managed and what has Ron managed? What knowledge do they have in running a business, the business of the United States? This isn’t a moral position. Your morals are not the governments responsibility, they are yours to address in your homes and in your churches and not in public forums. Morals are there to keep you from hurting others and not to dictate or be used against others who don’t believe the way you do, which is fascism at it’s finest. THIS is what the United States was founded on, not abortion, or war or power.
Posted by: CJ | May 30, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
At a dinner a couple nights ago, 8 out of 9 of the registered democrats there are voting for McCain. It will be interesting to see this new phenomenon unfold. The DNC is going to be licking their wounds for decades. Maybe by then they will figure out how important it is to have good leadership and how very important it is to not put dividers up on ones own party.
Posted by: Wayne
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Wayne, I see the same thing every day. I’m in a business and come in contact with a lot of people each day. I think this election has about destroyed the democrat party and will take years for them to come back. If they had run a black man that the people respected or did not have so much baggage, it would have been OK. But Obama will never be elected. I just hope the democrats will get some new leadership and toss Howard Dean out. It is a messed up party now.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | May 30, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Well folks, here it is, Obama’s baggage is starting to open. It is all gonna come out tooooo late. Hillary is going to be forced out, he will win the nomination. Then ALL the superdelagates who flocked to him like the second coming of God will be to blame for the mess the United States of American will be in, and I mean all 50 states, not 57. Here’s a question, will he put him hand on the bible at innaguration, will he repeat his whole name, Barak Hussein Obama, will Rev. Wright give any of the invovations, will Rezko, Ayers, Rev. Pfleger, be on the guest list, and when will the Jackie “wanna be”, thesis be released?
Sad, Very Sad day in the USA.
Posted by: char19145 | May 30, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Every time I see something like this from a clergyman, it makes me think they’re only at the pulpit for the money. Surely one can’t believe that they do it out of love? It brought back to mind an old expression … What would Jesus do?
To those of you who are quick to jump on someone, please save it because in this country we are free to believe in Jesus and try to live by his teachings. I personally find it hard to believe He would teach the type of thing that’s coming from these so-called leaders of the churches.
Posted by: Sierra Gold | May 30, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
Being a practicing Catholic, I find Pfleger disgusting along with Wright. Never in my life would I tolerate such hate at church. That is not what religion is about. Church is where you go to repent and rejoice in the Lord not to hear vicious words said of others. I can’t even believe this place calls it self a church. A place where people are laughing and mocking others is a vile place. Wait until Michelle hits the circuit with her video. BO doesn’t stand a chance. They disgust me!
Dems are idiots for backing BO. Nice job in throwing it all away!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 30, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
The idiots around Obama are going to bring him down. Doesn’t he realize white people are terrified of this kind of thing. When McCain wins, Obama will have no one to blame for it but his own people who are making serious mistakes.
Posted by: Stuart | May 30, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
How about Senator Clinton’s million dollar plus earmark out of our tax dollars attached to another totally unrelated Senate bill to a Harlem pastor prior to his endorsement of her? I have not read what it was supposed to be used for. You can all google to find that one is a fact not a rumor. The crying business was picked up immediately by the media and various shows almost after it happened. It is old and tasteless. Last ditch effort? Of course.
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 30, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
I am glad the only negative things the media can publish regarding Barack Obama is his association with church leaders. It’s nothing compared to the adultry commited by Bill Clinton…and let’s not forget the horrible record by President Bush. A comedian recently said referring to Bush “how can you get a job and mess up everything”. Bush has proven it can be done. So, if this is all you can possibly find on Barack Obama, he’s still got MY VOTE any day!!
Posted by: Kimberly | May 30, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
I am glad the only negative things the media can publish regarding Barack Obama is his association with church leaders. It’s nothing compared to the adultry commited by Bill Clinton…and let’s not forget the horrible record by President Bush. A comedian recently said referring to Bush “how can you get a job and mess up everything”. Bush has proven it can be done. So, if this is all you can possibly find on Barack Obama, he’s still got MY VOTE any day!!
Posted by: Kimberly | May 30, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
I am glad the only negative things the media can publish regarding Barack Obama is his association with church leaders. It’s nothing compared to the adultry commited by Bill Clinton…and let’s not forget the horrible record by President Bush. A comedian recently said referring to Bush “how can you get a job and mess up everything”. Bush has proven it can be done. So, if this is all you can possibly find on Barack Obama, he’s still got MY VOTE any day!!
Posted by: Kimberly | May 30, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Has anyone stopped to consider that to be a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, one must associate with all manner of individuals – some more savory than others – to keep a finger on the pulse of things? That perhaps Obama’s nuanced thinking in regard to foreign diplomacy comes from his position in Chicago – that of a person who knows and understands both his supporters and those he disagrees with, and that every “association” may not indicate philosophical closeness?
Anybody ever contemplated that membership in TUCC might just be politically correct in Hyde Park – to remain up to date on the state of affairs there?
Posted by: Sara | May 30, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
The world, and especially American politics, is getting more weird all the time!
Posted by: LongT | May 30, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
According to Rev Pfelger if you are white then you are guilty by association. If Obama really didn’t like the message these reverends put forth then I am sure he could have found another church to attend. He obviously likes the message.
Posted by: unstoppable 80 | May 30, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
The reverend is a white person. How come you guys now blame a black man for a white man’s honesty and courage. The reverend was truthful and honest, I’m a white man and i totally agree with him. I understand the reactions of other white people on this blog, the truth is sometimes very bitter.
Posted by: dew5050 | May 30, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Is there any debate that Hillary feels she is entitled to the presidency. She has race baited and used code language at every turn. “Hard working white people” anyone. Why do her supporters get so worked up when a mirror has been held up to her.
Posted by: feminist50 | May 30, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Kimberly, You will only be allowed to vote once…not three times
Posted by: Rita | May 30, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
John Henry: Perhaps it was not clear that I was paraphrasing what the Priest was saying at the beginning of his “sermon” that was not reported on this morning’s Today Show and GMA.
Posted by: Joey in GA | May 30, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Kimberly,
You said the only thing they can dig up on Obama is his association with this church. These are people he puts all his faith in. He is raising his children to believe what these people believe. Think about what you said. Is this who you want in office? A person with such poor judgement in character? They’re hurting him, not helping him and I’m not sure he knows that. I think his advisors are making him recognize that. It just shows his inexperience to lead. He’s obviously a follower.
Posted by: getalife666 | May 30, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Rev.Wright and Father Pfleger are both men of “God” that Obama has kept close to him during his 20 years in Chicago.
They are not men who supported him AFTER his announcement of running for Presidency…….They were men who Profited from Obama and Obama Profited from them with their Supporters in VOTES.
They are part of his Family (Uncle Wright).
They are who they are and they have helped and influenced Obama FOR 20 YEARS.
They are PART OF OBAMA……But they shouldn’t be part of OUR WHITE HOUSE……..in turn Obama should never be near OUR OVAL OFFICE.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 30, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
This is TOO FUNNY!! I saw the video and I couldn’t help but laugh. When I read some of the post here I found them funny too. People say what is up with Obama and his pastors(plural). This man is not Obama’s pastor and what is even funnier about it, and it seems that no one else recognizes. Is that the man saying all of these things is WHITE.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: brotayo | May 30, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
It never seem to amaze me the so called outrage by certain individual. Senator McCain’s Pastor say that the Catholic Churh is a WHOLE RELIGION in the news…lets see 2 days. He say that God create Hitler to get rid of the JEWS
and it is in the news..hmm lets see 2 days. Senator Clinton say she is still in the race because she is waiting for an ASSASINATION of her opponent. In the news…hmm..possibly 3 days over memorial weekend (when people are on vacation). Senator Obama’s former Pastor say something LUDICIOUS and it was in the news for MONTHS. Yes…FREEDOM OF THE PRESS at it best.
Posted by: realdogmatic1 | May 30, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
UPDATE II: Father Pfleger writes to say, “I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”
If? IF?! How about, “engage brain before opening mouth”? Watching this man, it appears he’s emulating Pastor Rod Parsley. I have to say, I get a lot more out of a sermon without all the screaming, and huffing and puffing, and stomping around on the stage. When trying to teach your children something, do you rant and rave like a lunatic?
Posted by: Sierra Gold | May 30, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
If the Catholic church doesn’t dump Rev. Pfleger this time, it will show just how impotent the church is regarding sexual child molesters and racists running their churches. This guy has been mean and mouthy from the pulpit for years in Chicago. He’s a racist and the Catholic church allows it. There are no rules left in that church.
Posted by: Mary | May 30, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
As a catholic, I am shocked and outraged at this priest’s actions. First of all, no catholic priest that I know of ever made any political statement from the pulpit. I don’t know what Bishop he is under, but he apparently isn’t doing his job either.
Posted by: NW PA | May 30, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
I wonder if this isn’t some tactic by Clinton supporters or the clinton campaign to make a desperate last ditch effort to get the nomination.
Posted by: markymark | May 30, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Did McCain’s Pastor Marry him?
Did McCain’s Pastor Bless his House?
Did McCain’s Pastor Baptist his Children?
Did McCain’s Pastor Make it to the pages of his WebSite?
Did McCain write a whole book from his Pastor’s Influence?
Did McCain ever compared his relationship with his Pastor as someone as close to him as his grandfather or uncle?
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 30, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
People won’t vote “for” McCain. They’ll vote “against” Obama. This is how McCain will win in November.
Candidates who appear to be ultra-liberal or radical simply do not win elections in America.
If the DNC foolishly nominates an unelectable Obama over an electable Clinton, I will be further convinced that the party is truly run by McCain operatives.
Posted by: Carlos | May 30, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
brotayo– Did you READ the article? Barack gave this guy $225,000. He has said he highly regards the man. You laugh because he’s white? I tried posting the following on a liberal site:” I don’t care if someone is black, white, yellow, purple or green with orange dots. If it’s racist it’s racist.Try this one on for size: “Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by his character” You tell me why it’s funny because the guy is white again. Now tell me how the new pastor at Trinity is so wonderful (like Obama said he was) I know that you won’t/can’t see this because you are blinded by the adoration of Obama, but perhaps you might give pause and really think about it. Try this and see if POSSIBLY you might understand. Imagine that you had an club that did good things in the community, helping poor folks etc. This local club didn’t actually attack anyone physically, but they had orators attacking a group of people. Would you THEN look at anyone that was a member with a jaded eye? Imagine the candidate for POTUS had been a member for 20 years. THAT’S the problem a lot of people have with Barack.
Posted by: Phil | May 30, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
There was nothing hateful about what the priest said. He was very colourful and undiplomatic but certainly no hate. Hatred is what comes from the likes of Haggee, parsley, Falwell and Robertson but the media gived them a pass and also hails them as patriotic Americans.
Posted by: feminist50 | May 30, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
This is good!
Hillary supporters wll never vote for Obama!
If there were 20% out there could vote for Obama, now that percengate is
Z E R O!
Posted by: Nedel | May 30, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Thank you, OH Please for your comment.I was a Hillary supporter when this primary started,I switched my vote to Barack.During the Fla and Michigan primaries,Mrs.Hillary acted like she could care less about the votes in those 2 states but now since she’s losing,she thinks the world of the voters in Fla and Michigan.Hillary’s campaign has been shady and shiesty,it’s been full of lies and attacks.Now as far as what the pastor said,i for one thinks he is right I don’t think he should have apologized.Some of you that have been so appalled by what the pastors have been saying are not really concerned about race and racism becuase if you were you would have beeen appalled by it before this election began.Racism is still alive and well,that ugly monster(racism) will always be around and this election and some of the comments on this messageboard proves it.Most of you that are all of a sudden appalled by racism are just glad to see another attack on barack because you fear that he will win the election in Nov.Some Hillary supporters say they will vote for Mccain if Barack is the nominee,they’re going to switch to a party that focuses on issues totally opposite from the democratic party and some of you say it’s because Barack is a racist.PLEASE! That’s why good ol America will never move into a positive direction.
Posted by: vanessapenny | May 30, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
I had to go and do a quick search on this “priest”, what a nasty divisive man this is. He wants to snuff out gun shop owners and legislaters who oppose gun control laws. He wants the white man to give up everything he has worked for and I assume just hand it over to the black man. I suppose we should just leave our homes and jobs enmass and go live in the streets, so the black man can have it all…so we can cleanse our souls. I find it odd that the media doesn’t mention this part of the sermon, only the Clinton part, but some of us aren’t stupid, we went out and found the rest of the sermon. Sen Obama surrounds himself with some real “winners”.
Posted by: samhiguchi | May 30, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
I thought this catholic priest was rather entertaining. He has HRC pegged perfectly. She does act like she’s entitled or feel like she’s owed the nomination and the presidency. Of course, I am worried more about gas and food prices. I hope the media can bring me some food and take me to work.
Posted by: KingDavid46 | May 30, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
It’s the Billlary people on the war path again !
Posted by: GetaLife | May 30, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
You think its funny when his ministers bash a rich white woman. Here is an article on what Obama ls doing to an AA female delegate that is supporting him now!
Posted by: evie | May 30, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Hillary shoud take it to the convention!
ANything can happen in two months!
If you think two months ago, Rev Wright awas surfaced , plus hamas endorsment, and terrorist frineds such as Khalidi and Ayers exposed to the media too!
Hillary please take it to the convention!
Posted by: Joel | May 30, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
To: markymark — You said, “I wonder if this isn’t some tactic by Clinton supporters or the clinton campaign to make a desperate last ditch effort to get the nomination.”
Yup, it’s allllllllllll Hillary’s fault. Everything that makes Obama look bad is alllllllllllllllways Hillary’s fault. When Obama does poorly at a debate, it’s Hillary’s fault. When Hillary receives over 17 million votes, wins the votes of blue collar workers, Latinos, Hispanics, Women, Elderly, Catholic voters and WISELY and LEGITIMATELY stays in the race, it’s Hillary’s fault for “dividing the party.”
What a load of bunkweed!
When Obama loses, I wonder who Obama & his supporters will blame? Uhhhhh, Hillary? That’s presidential material for you — blaming others for your own failures and shortcomings.
Posted by: BBMJ32 | May 30, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Obama is a UNITER all right.
Unites People who hate to hate more.
Unites People who hate to remember the worst of People.
Unites People who hate that their time has come.
And the FAR LEFT BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS LOVE THIS !
That is why Obama is their leader.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 30, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
If you think this is news, than wait for the Republican October bomb shell!
Michelle Obama tape during Rev Wright’s hate speach at the Trinity church of Christ will be the worst one! she was screaming
“kill the whitey”
The tape is bought by GOP for 400K and will be used in October against Obama boy and his racist wife!
LOL
Posted by: Shimon | May 30, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Have we all forgotten that each of us is supporting one candidate or another in this election? Therefore, why wouldn’t Obama’s church have a right to support one candidate over another? Do we not all have our own little political jokes that we crack or at least laugh at – whether it be in the privacy of our own homes, at the office, or, heaven forbit, in our Christian gatherings? That is the great thing about the country that we live in! We have amazing service men and women who fight on a daily basis to make sure we can to that! Though I am not an Obama supporter, I absolutely support his church supporting him – even when that involves a few jokes from the pulpit! Were I to run as President, I would absolutely expect my church family to support me as much as possible! If they didn’t, I wouldn’t be a part of their family – after all, isn’t that why we belong to certain churches, clubs, associations? To feel supported! When are we going to just focus on the issues at hand and stop worrying about what someone else who might know one candidate or the other has to say about the candidate they do not support?
Posted by: Gurt | May 30, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Please remember that Senator Obama was a community organizer before going into the senate. Of course, he is going to have friends and acquaintances of all kinds from his role as a community organizer. How can you be a legitimate community organizer if you don’t make yourself a part of that community. Just because someone from the community who supports Obama says something stupid doesn’t mean that person is bad nor should it be a reflection of Obama whatsoever. Obama didn’t say it nor does he have any record whatsoever of saying anything of a kind.
Definition of Community Organizer – Community organizing is a process by which people are brought together to act in common self-interest….Community organizers generally seek to build groups that are democratic in governance, open and accessible to community members, and concerned with the general health of the community rather than a specific interest group….
Posted by: TexasLibby | May 30, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
rmooreque1:
Point of correction, it was not a black preacher, but a white preacher. I cannot understand why some people are now blaming a black person for a white person’s honesty and integrity.
American politics is now so messed up that, no matter how good you are, there are people out there trying to tear you down by bringing up issues that are not remotely related to improving our lots as americans. They did that in 2004 with Kerry, but look where that has led us: we are in shambles as a nation and as a people.
But this time around, there is no way the evil ones will succeed! May God bless america.
Posted by: dew5050 | May 30, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Texaslibby, your argument that Obama was associated with this guy only because Obama was a community orginizer is lame at best. He was a friend of Obamas for decades and he was on Obamas website until yesterday. Open your eyes tex.
Posted by: billy bob | May 30, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
When the man cannot unite its own party, how can he unite right wing and left wing? White and Black? Poor and Rich?
Posted by: Joke | May 30, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Obama and his friends are racist. He will never get elected. He and his supporters have disrespected Clinton too many times. Sorry but he can’t win without Clinton’s supporters and he will never get them.
Posted by: John | May 30, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
This is what called “NEW POLITICS” isn’t it?
Posted by: Joke | May 30, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
seethestory…another rev wright thing…they only watch the part that suited them. HRC wants you to do that…What a sleeze she is
Posted by: newera | May 30, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Obama can string his Pastors/Mentors/Uncles along for 20 years the rest of the followers for another 6 months will be easy.
Posted by: joker4usa | May 30, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
We all know that this is true. Why act like it’s such a surprise that this race is about race. My problem is that all the Clinton supporters that say they will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee have forgotten about the Obama supporters who will not vote for Clinton do you really think she can win without them? If so then think again just like Clinton supporters, Obama supporters will do the same there will be all kinds of hell to pay if the Obama supporters think that the NOMINATION was taken from them because of his Race or because of who has been involved in his life that do not speak for him. There will be no repair for the party. LIGHTS OUT!!!
Posted by: Bettyann | May 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
OMG! This is what we will have to get used to if Obama is POTUS!
Posted by: Voter | May 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
All I can say is if you still support Obama than you probaly are one of those people that still thinks OJ is innocent. What elese is there to say.
Posted by: billy bob | May 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
formerhillary –”Have you checked out McCain’s pastor?” Ok, I’ll bite, who is he? His TRUE pastor, you know, the one that he was associated with for over 20 years.
Posted by: Phil | May 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
And the new pastor of the Church thanks God for the sick message and the twisted messenger! They positively embraced this guy and his message of hate, masquerading as social activism. Do we really want these kind of characters to have access to our next president and to constantly have their rantings aired nationally?
Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Finally, we may be reaching a point where we have an honest dialogue on race in the country. Although, the means in this instance is rather crude, but then again, so is racism in its various manifestations.
Posted by: JOE | May 30, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
This guy is no minister of God, and certainly no minister of the word of Jesus. Obama has some smarmy ministers at his church.
Posted by: Jenna | May 30, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
dew5050 – I agree with you. Overall, I think the reason there has been such a firestorm over these comments is that they touch a nerve in this country. No one has been willing to be brutally honest about race relations in this country and when they are, they’re usually villified whether white or black. I don’t think you get this much heated response unless there is a tinge of truth and sometimes the truth hurts.
Posted by: tmoney | May 30, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
formerhillary: Yes I know it was a White preacher, I was only pointing that out because so many people have a problem with a black church and their views. But White America showed thier prejudice for years, we finally got schools intergrated, we finally stopped getting lynched and finally got a man of color to potentially win the Nominee. Americans kill me. How many black friends does mccain have, I doubt any, he just looks like a racist to me. Besides Barack his Half white and Half Black, im sure he is not racist all. For Godsake he was a black kid raiesd by his white mother.. I’m sure he experienced so much racism and stares coming from people. America is so Sad they are still looking at color. It will take a Big natural Disaster like in china to finally bring this country together. until then, God Bless you all
Posted by: rmooreque1 | May 30, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
We all know that this is true. Why act like it’s such a surprise that this race is about race. My problem is that all the Clinton supporters that say they will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee have forgotten about the Obama supporters who will not vote for Clinton do you really think she can win without them? If so then think again just like Clinton supporters, Obama supporters will do the same there will be all kinds of hell to pay if the Obama supporters think that the NOMINATION was taken from them because of his Race or because of who has been involved in his life that do not speak for him. There will be no repair for the party. LIGHTS OUT!!!
Posted by: Bettyann | May 30, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
I am from WV!
Now you all can understand why Obama can not get even one vote here!
WE ARE RACISTS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO!
I URGE SD AND MT TO VOTE FOR HILLARY
Posted by: daniel, WV | May 30, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
As a young white man (the young part was a while back)I learned that white people and black people had many things in common, the most evident, as this story reveals, is how stupid we can be. In inner city churches harboring a host of historic injustices and indignities, it is not surprising to find inflammatory rhetoric. Take inflammatory rhetoric, add stupid, throw in the heady authenticity that a pulpit can impute to the one standing on it, and toss in You Tube and see what you get. It’s America, and there’s a lot of people who make a living out of stirring other folks up. Next story.
Posted by: jggrimm | May 30, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
So you don’t see any difference with the DEPTH of an association? I’m not a ANYONE supporter, but that being said, I look at the depth of an association. That to me is important. I have associations with people I don’t know well, but I also have associations with people for 20 years +. The long associations are more important to me. Obama backs these people with money and support.
Posted by: Phil | May 30, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
MIZ….clearly you haven’t been watching. Hillary is her own worst enemy. Her campaign is a shambles and running out of money. She has not shown she can overwhelmingly win the election, and has thus split the party. I agree, lets wait until all the votes are in and see who comes up on top.
Posted by: newthought | May 30, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
How the heck you belong to a church 4 20 years that preaches hate toward other race. Obama campaign is all about judgement. His judgement is worst than a 5 years old. I now do believed he is a closet racist. His church makes all the other black churches look really bad. His supporters are still going to come up with excuses for the Messiah Obama.
Posted by: DT | May 30, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Well, I believe it’s up to the DNC to exercise their responsibilities to the American people this election. This is a giant mess. And what’s crazy is MSNBC playing this off like it means nothing to the American people. What on earth is wrong with that news channel? I think they’ve all lost their minds. I mean seriously, being a person standing outside the Obama supporter land is like being someone witnessing something really bad going down that no one is saying anything about. Like it’s just OKAY to have these people in your life for 20 years and to speak hatred for white people from the pulpit. Not only that but they are hating on Hillary Clinton from the pulpit. It’s disgusting. I don’t see how anyone can vote for this guy. I really don’t.
For those of you defending this and comparing preachers of McCain to this guy and Wright, well there is a difference. You can try to spin this any way you want to, but there is a huge difference in the fact that McCain did not sit in a church and was not close friends and confidants with those pastors. I think it’s clear McCain had no clue that they said some of those more controversial things as none of them were his pastor or close friend. Obama knows what these people preach about and he’s denying the knowledge of it like he’s oblivious to any wrongdoing whatsoever. That kind of thing is unacceptable. Just because white people were wrong in the past does not make it okay for black people and their preachers to go around hating “whitey.” Two wrongs do not make a right. Period. Good grief, if they don’t let Hillary have this nomination it means the entire washington establishment wants John McCain to be the next president of the United States. It means they prevented Hillary from it by running this moron against her by using propaganda and bumper stickers and slogans and pretty speeches so the people would fall for that crap and she would lose. It’s sad that she’s the only one out there who might actually remember us all out here and make some changes. For black people to call her racist or elude that she is a white supremecist is outrageous. This woman did more for women, children, minorities of all races, and people of all colors, than any of the candidates running. This is appalling and if the news media doesn’t start doing their job by taking notice of how wrong this stuff is then I’m getting rid of my television and refusing to vote or participate in this nonsense for good.
Posted by: Ellie | May 30, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
formerhillary — I truly don’t understand what you are talking about! Obama has associations with these people for 20 years and still has associations. Did you READ the article that you are posting about? “Their relationship spans decades. Pfleger has given money to Obama’s campaigns and Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs at St. Sabina’s, according to the Chicago Tribune” He, and his wife, still go to Trinity, cause Obama says he does.
Posted by: Phil | May 30, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
If anybody seriously belive Obama can win the GE is out of her/his mind!
McCain will win by a landslide in November!
Posted by: Sue | May 30, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
WOW, you guys are IDIOTS, These are preachers that Obama has ties with, NOT TERRORISTS, Obama was not at the service clapping and chearing, GET over it STOP trying TO find Everything Wrong with the Black Candidate
Posted by: rmooreque1 | May 30, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Newthought writes: “MIZ….clearly you haven’t been watching. Hillary is her own worst enemy. Her campaign is a shambles and running out of money. She has not shown she can overwhelmingly win the election, and has thus split the party. I agree, lets wait until all the votes are in and see who comes up on top.”
Yes, I have been watching. It’s your OPINION that she’s her own worst enemy. (Whoever thinks she advocated assassination did not listen to the interview. That’s not what she said, and RFK Jr. agrees that’s not what she said, and that the media just likes to spaz everyone out any way they can.)
I expect more from a leader than fundraising skills, but if you worship money, that’s your business. OBAMA has not shown he can win overwhelmingly either, but how nice of you to apply a different standard for him. The party has been a mess for years, so that’s nothing new, and yes, let’s COUNT THE VOTES. Don’t the Obama fans want him to win outright, and not by forfeiture? Is she really a b—h for not quitting and handing him an affirmative action trophy? I think she’s doing him a favor. When he wins the nomination, let there be no question that he earned it, mmmmmm-kay? Unless you think needs the hand-out to make it happen…..
Posted by: MIZjackson | May 30, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
He could have left out the white part but other than that he’s probably dead on. I don’t think anyone thinks that Hill dog didn’t feel entitled. That part is pretty obvious then she got her hopes crushed and now. State of denial which obama will probably win too! LOL!!
Posted by: Joe | May 30, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
I wish you people stop calling Obama a racist because he attends a black church. Many may not be aware that Senator John McCain voted against making Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Day a federal holiday in 1983. He later apologized for this vote and claimed it was a mistake. However, he has continued to associate himself with known racists.
Posted by: rmooreque1 | May 30, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
I don’t see how what he said is racist at all. you can’t call a white person whtie anymore? Well at least he didn’t call her a honkey! LOL! This isn’t even news.
Posted by: Joe | May 30, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
All I have to say to all the MSM circuits, you have justed destroyed what was once called the DEMOCRATIC PARTY! We as Americans will take whatever you put out there and run with it in the most negative ways. Therefore, I am suggesting that we only have the Bushes and Clintons run against each other from now on because it is there legacy only. No one else is deserving to try running for the job of POTUS; especially any minority. Just think back and reflect on who has been in that position for years. Then we wonder why the U.S. is in the state that it’s in today. Everyone that agrees with me should start a petition so this can start a snowball effect to eventually be turned into a LAW!
Posted by: Bobjective | May 30, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Bobjective –What law are you suggesting? A law making it a crime to report on the news??
Posted by: Phil | May 30, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
How can you sit in a church and listen to this pulpit for 20 years. YOu tell me that all black churches teaches this kind of crap black theology? Give me a break, this is nothing but a racist church. Now you know here Michelle Obama get her anger and bitter towards white people. Look at her face when she talks. This is not unitying our party more of dividing. Obama is a fraud and his supports are his scam. LOL
Posted by: dt | May 30, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Despite the constant lies, weak arguments and divisive rhetoric from the Clinton campaign, most states have voted, and the majority did not want her. Despite help from the Republicans through “Operation Chaos”, she is still waaaayyy behind. Most people would have gotten the message by now. So, if that does not reek of self entitlement on her part, what does?
Posted by: Sixth | May 30, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Obama and his wife are in deep trouble!
They are racists and calling people whitey!
Posted by: Jack | May 30, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Phil, no I am not talking about making a law not to report the news. How is it that some “Sierra Hotel India Tango” like this is even considered news? Showing this type of spiteful rhetoric from all these so call religious leaders and linking them as soul mates with candidates does no one any good! It only destroys their reputations and impose doubt. Why don’t they focus more on why we are over in IRAQ under a leader who went to war under false pretense. Now there are thousands of our TROOPS dead, dismangled, disfigured and suffering from PTSD and cannot get the help they need. NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL REPORTING THE NEWS. I bet you probably voted for those WARMONGERING IDIOTS TWICE!
Posted by: Bobjective | May 30, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
We all remember during the Pennsylvania debate Hillary was ask if Obama can win in november and what did she say yes,yes,yes. Fast foward to West Virginia and she courts the so called blue collar vote which in fact is the white vote she says, He cant win he’s black I’m white she is truly a flip-flopper.
Posted by: jg5012 | May 30, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
We all remember during the Pennsylvania debate Hillary was ask if Obama can win in november and what did she say yes,yes,yes. Fast foward to West Virginia and she courts the so called blue collar vote which in fact is the white vote she says, He cant win he’s black I’m white she is truly a flip-flopper.
Posted by: jg5012 | May 30, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
“WOW, you guys are IDIOTS, These are preachers that Obama has ties with, NOT TERRORISTS, Obama was not at the service clapping and chearing, GET over it STOP trying TO find Everything Wrong with the Black Candidate”
Ok, WHO is the IDIOT? These people might as well be terrorists, they are preaching hate messages. Period. Spin it how you want, it’s wrong. Dead wrong, and you know it.
Posted by: Ellie | May 30, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Chgancey…………
Look at it this way
1. Clinton is a senator and has never been president.
2. Obama is a senator and has never been president.
3. McCain is a senator and has never been president.
4. Bush has never been a senator but got the job twice something fishy here !!!
Posted by: jg5012 | May 30, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
“The reverend is a white person. How come you guys now blame a black man for a white man’s honesty and courage. The reverend was truthful and honest, I’m a white man and i totally agree with him. I understand the reactions of other white people on this blog, the truth is sometimes very bitter.”
UMMMMM…this may be YOUR truth, but it’s not mine. Okay so you’re saying that Obama being a member of this church where hate mongering goes on is okay? HOw is this okay? This almost looked like a comedy routine. If it were a comedy routine, it might be acceptable. But this was not a comedy routine. This was a man hating on a woman who has done alot for the country, including minorities, women, children, etc, etc….I think it’s disgusting. So no, this is not the truth. Nor do I believe Hillary felt ENTITLED to anything. In case you all haven’t noticed, HILLARY is a WOMAN. Women could not vote until AFTER black men could vote. Women have been repressed in this country since it began. So to compare Hillary to a white person who feels entitled to anything is not the truth, ITS ABSURD!!! Get a brain folks!! Get off the kool aid. This is crazy. I can see how cults happen now. Just chant the slogan of “change” in front of people and they will follow.
Posted by: Ellie | May 30, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Give it a rest Barack Obama and his wife are a breath of fresh air, Its time like he said for change, it’s not about color it’s about who will do the job for ALL americans,So all you REAL Racists out there get over it. It just happens to take a black man to make this change at this time in history and Dammit it’s about time.
Posted by: Colette Belton | May 30, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Obama chose to spend 20 years listening to Wright, who visited Mumar Kadafi with Louis Farakan. Obama gets endorsements from Farakan, Pfleger, Hugo Chavez, Hamas, Ahmadinajad, Castro … and, some people still say “Poor Obama is the victim”??? The Clinton’s gave service in the White House, which provided our country with peace and prosperity for 8 years. What has Obama and his supporters done for this country??? McCain, was tortured for 5 years defending this country. What has Obama and his supporters done for this country? Pfleger says the whites have a sense of entitlement, but then he says America has to pay the price to people of color, for things that happened 100 years ago … so, who has the expectation of entitlement??? I say … elect either Clinton, or McCain for ’08 !!!
Posted by: Lee | May 30, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Jack: It this what Hillary was talking about when she spoke of October surprise that would hurt the democrat party chances of winning?
Posted by: Willie | May 30, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
When people say wrong things, do we excommunicate them from society? Do we blame someone other than the person who said it? If they apologize, do we accept it? Has everyone on earth said wrong or terrible things? When apologize, do want people to forgive us?Some have done worse than saying bad things, some have than really bad things and have not apologized. So thank God for people who is willing to apologize.
Posted by: Lawrence | May 30, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Lawrence — It’s akin to the old lawyer trick in a trial. The lawyer says something like: “So, when you killed the person…” The other lawyer jumps to his feet and says “OBJECTION!” The first attorney says “Withdrawn”. The judge says “sustained and the jury will disregard” The point is that it’s out there, and in the juries mind.
Posted by: Phil | May 30, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
As I Catholic I am very embarrassed by this priest’s behavior and attitude. I have never, ever seen a priest behave in such a foul manner. I believe in forgiveness, giving someone the benefit of the doubt and giving second chances, however, I have a feeling this is not the first time this priest has shown questionable behavior. The results are not always worth the means. Turning people off from the Catholic Church will be a result of his “means.”
Posted by: Jane | May 30, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
His mocking her was uncalled for but the reason there is so much anger on this thread is because he basically told part of the truth as well. She DID feel entitled, or maybe still DOES feel entitled, that the nomination should be hers, and it isn’t. That’s where her campaign totally screwed up, thinking they would win no matter what.
Posted by: Kelly | May 30, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Kelly:
And you profess to know this how? Do you talk to Clinton on a regular basis to hear her speak of her entitlement.
Posted by: Bonita | May 30, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
We need to send the letter to a Bishop requesting to remove this crazy Pfleger from the church. As a Catholic, I feel deeply offended to listen to these scraps from this kind of “Father”. If he was invited to my church to have this talk that day, he would never get out of my church without a confrontation!
Posted by: JKN | May 30, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
I THINK OBAMA IS HERE TO CLEANSE THE MESS WHICH GOERGE BUSH CREATED. HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT WE ALL DREAM OF,,….
Posted by: gani OLA | May 30, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
And who is the one who really feels entitled? Where’s the media coverage of MO complaining about the bar being raised?
Posted by: Ted | May 30, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Entitled is as entitled does. Hillary Clinton is interested only in states (Read votes) that benefit her. Her hysterical supporters seem to forget that “It’s the votes, stupid!” And frankly the collective votes- that count- are simply not in her favor. In other words, if the majority had wanted her to win they would have voted for her. But they did not and they voted not (for her). By the way, the majority of Hillary’s voting bloc voted for Bush in the last election. So, for those yelling that they will vote for McCain if Hillary does not receive the nomination, it’s not like you are Democratic loyalists anyway. So there!
Posted by: Dave | May 30, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Both men were his SPIRITUAL ADVISORS! Once on his campaign staff. Obama runs on superior judgment and unity. Yet, two of his spiritual advisors, friends for over 20 years, spew hate speech from the pulpit teaching children it’s okay to be hateful. If you don’t have a problem with that fine. Both I view Obama’s silence as complicity and agreement.
Posted by: Daniel | May 30, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Bonita, don’t you know they’re all mind readers? Never mind that she’s worked her butt off and exhibited the admirable quality of not giving up when the chips are down, but since THEY CAN READ HER MIND, they can tell you for a fact, it’s all about her feeling “entitled” to the hand out of her husbands former office. How can you argue with mind readers? And why even have debates at all, when the good people here can just TELL you what everyone else thinks?
Posted by: MIZjackson | May 30, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Seem like there is much more we dont reaaly know about Obama. Aside from his good motivating speech. What is he?
Been with such a polarized priest for over 20 years and not know. Just now to denounce for electability ??
Very dangerous situation we are having here.
Posted by: Deny | May 30, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Benita,
I prefer a good fighter as Hillary to Mr. HotAir in an empty suit Obama! Only a dummy would ignore Obama’s tall tales of lies and only idiots like Obama’s supporters would think that he can get away with everything. Pundits in MSNBC can give him a free pass, not us.
Posted by: JKN | May 30, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
We conducted a survey in our church last week. It was shocking to know that none of Hillary supporters will vote for Obama in November if Hillary gives up the race. There are only two people will go for Obama! I hope this number will be increased day by day. We might not vote for John McCain but will do everything to stop this jerk Obama with his Black bandwagon to the White House!
Posted by: JKN | May 30, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Obama cannot “distance” himself from the comments of either Rev. Michael Pfleger or Reverend Jeremiah Wright, because neither they nor their comments are the real issue.
Unmistakable evidence of the real issue lies in the video of the audience for both speeches. The approbation for the views expressed is unmistakable in the rounds of applause and standing ovations from the congregation.
There is no denying that these views are representative of the views of not only his long time political cronies, but of the very community with which Obama has chosen to associate himself for twenty years.
For him to now deny the comments, the cronies, or the community from which he comes is nothing more than the same old “say anything to get elected” b.s. that is the very substance of all of politics – old or new.
Worse, this is not merely guilt by association, because if these views really conflicted with his own, he had twenty years to make that fact evident and failed to do so until recently when it became politically expedient.
The real problem for Obama is that these views and his recent denial of them reveal what no politician ever wants revealed – his true positions and lack of character to admit them.
Couple this with a willingness to say anything and throw even his closest allies under the bus to gain power and he is forever branded for what he is – a politician. There is no worse epithet that can be ever applied to anyone. That is the real lack of change that you can believe in.
Posted by: R U Kidding | May 30, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Hillary supporters,
Please send a loud and clear message to DNC, especially Obama’s supporters, by not going to vote in November OR vote for John McCain instead if Obama is a nominee. Democrat party can no longer be trusted, if they are willing to promote a candidate who seems to be popular on the surface but shallow within!
Posted by: JKN | May 30, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama needs to do what’s right and “step down” from his position as possible Dem nom. His rhetoric has divided the country Black against White in such a way I have never witnessed in all my days. Had he been a Black American running for president everything would have been fine but his Black African power religion is not what we Americans want or will accept. If he does not step down, most Democrats willtake the issue into their own hands by voting Republican!
Posted by: mary | May 30, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
We may give benefit of doubt to Wright and this new white pastor (who got nearly 250,000$ from obama ) as some oldies who are still stuck in the past.
But The fact and the way in which we saw the entire congregation stand up and clap and laugh and enjoy these demeaning remarks – was despicable. In other words, they all must be doing these gestures whenever spoken from the podium…
My question is, is it possible that when Obama and Michalle and their kids were in the church, they too would stand up and cheer up on such hurrah of sermons ( don’t know if they were sermons, but to be polite )
Answer is how can they not? They both are harward graduate, to be politicians – if they do not behoove like all their brothers and sisters, then they would feel the lack of belonging. And no one can stick around for 20 long years – with that kind of feelings.
In other words, they must have rejoiced these hateful sermons equally – as shown in both videos, and we will see many in the future. I would not be surprised if I see Obama and Michalle dancing on this sermons… or may be they are on the podium making them too..
Obama’s style of giving speeches very much resonates with these pastors – if you see that with an open eyes….
My final question is – Do we really want this un american in to the white house?
DNC should find someone like Collin Powell to be in the WH instead. Everyone will be more then happy to vote for him, then clintons.
I am neither white nor black… i am brown… And i do not like what i am seeing…
Posted by: Namrep | May 30, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Obama not only condones those hate sermons, but actually encourages them by donating to and supporting that so called church.
Posted by: Mack | May 30, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Good way to know who Obama really is to read his books.
( over 1000 readily availiable used on amazon )
Connect the dots….. it’s all there.
Obama has hoodwinked/bamboozled everyone.
“I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother’s race”
Barack Hussein Obama from
Dreams of My Father
Animosity against my Mother’s race…..how well this fits with the views of the Black Liberation Theology
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 30, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Does Obama know/interact with anyone who is NOT a hateful slimebag?
Posted by: Karen | May 30, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
When Obama is at his rallies and sees all the white women screaming and cheering for him—-does he not recall his own words……..
“I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother’s race”
Barack Hussein Obama from
Dreams of My Father
I guess all the Money/Donations he got soothes all grievances for him……and Michelle too—how many times during her speeches does she mention how hard they had it…..
I guess 1000.00 dresses soothes all grievances too.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 30, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
“I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievancee and animosity against my mother’s race”
Barack Hussein Obama from
Dreams of My Father
See he uses the word
” nursing “….
he’s cradling this hate
Are we to ignore his own words?
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 30, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Obama’s supporters won’t shut their pile holes until Obama suffers from a humiliating defeat in November. There is only one message for you guys: learn how to listen to the others! No candidate from the far left or the far right can win the election without the support from Independent people like us. I have always voted for Democrat party and it will be my first time, I will vote for John McCain without consideration if Democrat’s candidate is Obama!
Posted by: JKN | May 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Obama has lost all credibility..
He attends a racist church for 20 years, but tells the world he wants to unite everyone.
This is just another red flag–warning America that Obama is not what he seems.
I’ll never vote for Obama. I simply do not trust him.
Hillary or McCain 08
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 30, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Isn’t this kind of like when Hillary mocked Barack about the choirs of celestial angels. That was the candidate herself mocking him, not one of her supporters. Did she ever apologize for that or anything else negative that she herself said!!
Posted by: Carol | May 30, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Within 6 months Mr. Blah blah blahhhh will become Mr. boohoo! One thing Obama’s fans should do in November is to invite Wright and Michael Pfleger to Obama farewell party. One will sing a song “God D America” and the other will mock the crying BOOHOOO!
Posted by: JKN | May 30, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Church is supposed to be a faithful place to connect with God or whomever your higher being is. I don’t think any Pastor or Priest should be screaming in their sermon about politics.
Posted by: Teresa | May 30, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Carol – Kind of like the time Obama mocked Hillary by calling her Annie Oakley and for taking a shot of whiskey AFTER he downed a beer for a photo op – did he ever apoligize for those times?
Posted by: Jules | May 30, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
To all of you who say that African Americans are Obama’s people, this is a news flash from a Native African American, who was raised on the South Side of Chicago, OBAMA’S AFRICAN IS KENYAN AND OBAMA AMERICAN IS WHITE. Obama is really just begining to learn about us. Yet, Obama whole entire up- bring is WHITE AMERICAN. JUST BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE ONE OF US HE IS NOT. I don’t know who called Obama a community organizer, but that is a JOKE to us South Side Chicago people.
Posted by: patricia smith | May 30, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
How can Obama help what people say. Leave the man alone and let him run his race. It amazes me how folks who never attend church or even have a bible wants to crucify preachers who make statements in their sermons.
It is unfair to place a mark on a man because of what somebody says. Another thing, you mean to tell me that most democratic voters will not vote for barack but go republican, man please. The truth be told america still have a lot of racism and don’t want to see a black president.
Also, how can you keep the church out of politics when the constitution was set up by our four fathers based on bibical principles. So before you down play sermons in the church read the bible and the constitution.
Posted by: Ricky | May 30, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
The problem is not “guilt by association” for Obama. To be clear, he himself has said or done none of the racist or hateful things spoken or done by Jeremiah Wright, Fr. Pfleger, or Bill Ayers. The real problem is Obama’s lack of judgment and his affinity for choosing friends and mentors who are racist, or who would bring America to its knees, if given the chance. Why does one who aspires to be Commander-in-Chief pal around with these types?
Posted by: Bluebird | May 30, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Apparently the DNC, Pelosi and Reid are planning on dumping on Hillary! They have decided to give all of the independant votes in Mich and Fla to Obama! They are also pushing Super delegates to vote now (within the week) to get this debacle over with! They do not want Hillary to go to the convention and are trying to push her to quit! Well, so much for the Democratic Party!! They have decided FOR IS, what the game plan is!!! Big mistake!!! And they call themselves Democratic??? What the hell is so democratic about their entire forum? The only thing the DNC, Reid, Pelosi, Obama and his “crew have succeeded in doing is “throwing themselves under the bus”!! They have succeeded in turning loyal democrats into republicans!! They have succeeded in disenfranchising millions of voters with “their way or the highway” atttitude!! They have succeeded in telling white people that the black vote was more important to them that ours! Well, this now ex-Democrat willl take his vote to the only valid candidate other than Hillary and that would be McCain! He has a backround that does not include radicals and unAmerican friends, pastors and crooks! He did not spend over 20 years with any pastor..he defended this country with valor and his wife loves this country! Iraq will not come to a speedy conclusion no matter who becomes POTUS and he will not be catering to the faction that believes this country owes them a living and should pay for something that happened 200 yrs ago! Obama is the least qualified politically and privately to become President of these United States. I might just add that if Obama was on the Republican ticket all blacks would now become Republicans!! They are only for Obama because he is black…substance he does not have!! Character he does not have!! He only has rhetoric that says nothing!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 30, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
I saw McCain’s response to this scandal and he really showed class with his answer. He pretty much said Obama has to decide whether he needs to leave his church (doubtful after 20 years) and then he talked about how he, McCain, has always shown Clinton respect and that she deserves it and this kind of behavior is disgraceful. Note – Obama has made no acknowledgement about Senator Clinton, he’s only covered his own backside. This just helps solidify to us Hillary supporters that plan on voting for McCain that we are making the right second choice.
Posted by: Cap | May 30, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
To all of you who say that African Americans are Obama’s people, this is a news flash from a Native African American, who was raised on the South Side of Chicago, OBAMA’S AFRICAN IS KENYAN AND OBAMA AMERICAN IS WHITE. Obama is really just begining to learn about us. Yet, Obama whole entire up- bring is WHITE AMERICAN. JUST BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE ONE OF US HE IS NOT. I don’t know who called Obama a community organizer, but that is a JOKE to us South Side Chicago people.
Posted by: patricia smith | May 30, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
This is just Wright repeated.
I’m more concerned about the 225k, Obama as a legislator directed towards social programs at Pfleger’s parish.
Was this legitimate use of tax payer funds? Part of Bush’s faith based initiative? I’m curious.
Posted by: None of the Above 08 | May 30, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
In the article at the top of this page is a site..click on “go to chicago tribune and see all of the “pork” that Obama is responsible for and see what black organiztions millions of dollars were “awarded” VERY INTERESTING..SEE WHERE THE DOLLARS WENT!!!! IS THIS WHAT HE INTENDS ON DOING IF HE GETS ELECTED POTUS…WE WHITES WILL BE “SCREWED” ROYALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Posted by: micha6888 | May 30, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
i hate how church and religion has ANY part of the conversation. i can’t stand how this dumb church is sinking his campaign. you can choose to look at what others say that he’s been associated with or you can choose to look at what he’s said, what he’s done. if you hold this standard to him, you have to hold it to hillary and john as well. both of them have people around them that have said divisive and hurtful things, so can we just say that they cancel each other out and LISTEN TO THEM DEBATE ON SERIOUS ISSUES.
why are we americans so stupid and easilly swayed by distraction issues?!?!?! the world is LAUGHING at us.
Posted by: Jeff | May 30, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
What makes you believe that obama is for everyone??? which he isn’t any pastor or priest or father or any clergyman goes before the pulpit and mocks and critices and judges and projects hatred is not a true believer of christ.
Posted by: Latina | May 30, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
What Father Michael Pfleger said was very true. Last week when Hillary used RFK assassination to call out her low-income, hard-working, no college education (her words) supporters to do what… we all know what she was doing, did she apologize publicly to Obama? No, and she really owed him an apology. Now on MSNBC and all the other ridiculous news stations had the nerve to say Obama should apologize to Hillary. For what? He does on own the Church or the “Man” who uttered those words. But, she owned the words she said last. So when Father Pfleger refers to her as acting like a Superior White Woman, that nonsense about Obama apologizing to her fits in to this scenario. Remember, it is Hillary who like playing the race card. Black Americans are not racist, we are tired of racist people.
Thanks.
Posted by: Leo | May 30, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Reposted due to errors in first message… but read on…
What Father Michael Pfleger said was very true. Last week when Hillary used RFK assassination to call out her low-income, hard-working, no college education white people(her words) supporters to do what… we all know what. Did she apologize publicly to Obama? No, and she really owed him an apology. MSNBC and all the other ridiculous news stations had the nerve to say today that Obama should apologize to Hillary. For what? He does on own the Church or the “Man” who uttered those words. But, she owned the words she said last. So when Father Pfleger refers to her as acting like a “Superior White Woman”, that nonsense about Obama apologizing to her fits in to this scenario. Remember, it is Hillary who like playing the race card. Black Americans are not racist, we are tired of racist people.
Thanks.
Posted by: Leo | May 30, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
The role of a Christian church is to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ, that repentence from our sins and belief in his atoning work on the cross saves us from the enslavement of sin here on earth and hell in the afterlife. How many of the sermons from Obama’s home church ever mention that? While Protestants have no general oversight over ministers such as Wright — denominations have no say in each other’s affairs — why doesn’t the pope at least, who was lauded so much last month visiting here, do something about such priests as Pfleger? The church is not a narcissistic club for stroking one’s own ethnic or national group at the expense of another. People are missing the good news of eternal life by going to such places.
Posted by: Lostwithiel | May 30, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Why should Obama apologize. The truth hurts. Hillary brought the racial thing into this. If Hillary were black, she would be claiming racial. Neither candidate is worth a damn, and what can they do. Blame Bush for all the economy problems, but the damn democrats are in charge. LOL
Posted by: John Morris | May 30, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Let’s put this into perspective. Obama has been associated with this church for 20+ years and until now he had not been aware of its racially biased church sermons/beliefs? There are only two possible explanations for this: 1.) He is lying, or 2.) He really didn’t know that his church leaders and what appears to be its entire congregation were racially biased.
If I give Obama the benefit of the doubt and believe he’s not lying, then I have to wonder what kind of job he would do as leader of the free world when he didn’t even know what was going on in his own church?!?! I’ve only known about this church for a few months, and I’ve figured it out about 19 ½ years faster than he did.
Posted by: DP | May 30, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
The company someone chooses to keep is a measure of the person. It has been reported by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago SunTimes that Senator Obama has known the priest for years and was considered a friend by Obama. In addition, he was affiliated with Obama’s campaign as an advisor until a few weeks ago.
This calls into question at least 3 important issues: Senator Obama’s judgment; whether Senator Obama agrees with the views of those he has chosen to include in his campaign; and whether this further calls into question Senator Obama’s electability.
Posted by: dreffein | May 30, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
What a disgrace to the human race. If Obama isn’t a racist, he sure has a lot of close friends who are. Weird!
Posted by: Julie | May 30, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Reagan Democrats will be Clinton Republicans. Since we have a Democratic Congress, we can afford to vote Republican to send a message to the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Lake | May 31, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
As a pastor – and as a gay man – I will NOT support Sen. Obama’s nor his choices of spiritual/religious affiliations. Here’s the whole list (in case some of you are forgetting the WHOLE list):
Oct. 2007 – Obama invites gospel singer, Donnie McClurkin, to be part of his campaign’s attempt to reach black evangelicals. Mr. McClurkin is a former gay man whose ministry includes helping people to NOT be gay. The largest gay rights organization, the Human Rights Campaign, criticizes Obama for his choice of company.
Jan. 2008 – The day after Obama makes a pro-gay speech in a predominantly Black church, Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell (a spiritual advisor to Pres. Bush) endorses Obama. Rev. Caldwell’s church (at that time – they’ve since took it down) includes a ministry whose soul purpose is to convert gay people into “normal” straight people. Also this month Obama says Rev. Wright was a “sounding board” for him and one that helps Obama to “speak the truth.”
March 2008 – The country begins to review Rev. Wright’s church and discovers the church’s magazine’s support of Rev. Farrakhan (an anti-Jewish and anti-gay pastor) as well as his sermons saying that 9/11 was brought on by racism, God should “damn America,” the first woman candidate has never suffered any kind of oppression or discrimination, and AIDS (the disease that has caused widespread oppression for millions of gay people) was actually developed by the US to hurt the African American community.
April 2008 – Obama calls Rev. Wright’s recent remarks at the National Press club “a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in the truth” but does not leave his church.
May 2008 – Father Pfleger visits Obama’s church and suggests that he understands the heart and mind of Hillary Clinton who he said is an “entitled white women” who fakes her tears and is afraid of Obama’s success because he is an African American. Pfleger’s archbishop gives him a public reprimand for “partisan campaigning.”
Yeah…I’m sticking with Hillary!!!!
Posted by: gaypastor | May 31, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
If you heard Rev. Wright’s or Rev. Pfleger’s political rants while speaking from a pulpit, you might want to read the Internal Revenue Service’s rules against such conduct.
From The IRS:
Under the Internal Revenue Code, all IRC section 501(c)(3) organizations, including churches and religious
organizations, are absolutely prohibited from directly or
indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political
campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made by or on behalf of the organization in favor
of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign
activity. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of
certain excise tax.
Posted by: cec | May 31, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
oh well, here we go again. same man…same ride. what do ya expect? any thing different? consider the source!
Posted by: kathy | May 31, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
This has nothing to do with President Obama.
Posted by: lllllllllllllll | May 31, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
This has nothing to do with President Obama.
Posted by: lllllllllllllll | May 31, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
*in the best slang I can muster*
You’re kinda puttin’ the cart in front of the horse, aren’t you, Kathy?
Posted by: Sierra Gold | May 31, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Kathy, I’ve made a grievous error and, for that, I apologize. That was meant for “lllllllllllllll.”
Posted by: Sierra Gold | May 31, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
The primary polls will change drastically in the general election if Obama is the nominee.
Democrats need to wake up. Senator Obama is still being vetted. He is very concerning to many in my community. I would love for the media to cover his connections with his church more thoroughly.
Only a day ago, Reverend Michael Pflager was viewed in Obama’s church, United Church of Christ. My entire community was offended to how this man not only spoke about whites but about President Clinton and Senator Clinton.
For Senator Pelosi not to step up to defend Senator Clinton is appalling.
17 million or more voters are hurt by this mans comments. This was another pastor friend of Senator Obama. He was spewing hatred towards whites and Senator Clinton and President Clinton.
Trintiy United Church of Christ is promoting anti American and racial views that are disgraceful.
How dare Senator Obama expect to have support from Democrats. It’s embarrassing. Obama has spoken about his “new” pastor, Otis Moss, as a lovely man.
Reverend Moss actually introduced this radical racist, Reverend Michael Pflager and then thanked him for his sermon.
Senator Obama has been friends with these people for over twenty years, not days. They were his moral compasses, his mentors and guidance counselors in life. Obama wants us to believe that in over almost 500 sermons that he never knew his churches views.
I would recommend that everyone spend time, just on “you tube” alone, and visit Trinity United Church of Christ, watch Louis Farrakhan, Reverend Wright, Reverend Pflager and in action.
Read about the 57 states of Islam, research the Muslim views of Obama. Investigate how Obama practiced law with Rezko in Chicago.
Lastly view radical domestic terrorist William Ayers, a coworker of Obama. They all do their share of spewing hatred.
According to Fox news: Special Report with Brit Hume, Obama had Rev Pflager on the campaign trail with him until last week. United Church of Christ and its new minister, Reverend Moss introduced this Rev. Pflager as a speaker.
I do know that if Senator Clinton was involved with a church that supported the Ku Klux Klan, I would want her explaining herself.
The media needs to confront Senator Obama. This is a matter of character Why is no one investigating Senator Obama’s background more thoroughly? I am totally embarrassed to be a Democrat if Obama becomes the nominee.
Who is this man: Obama? Why aren’t we as Democrats running from him?
Posted by: Al from NJ | June 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Senator Clinton and President Clinton are the only ones that deserve this title
What is it that you people don’t get?
This is not American Idol.
The 90′s were the best. The world was different because Bush wasn’t there
Clintons had no problem with Republicans, had a wonderful international appeal and the money was flowing into our country
What are you guys thinking
Posted by: Al from NJ | June 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
I am embarrassed that someone so corrupt and has as thin a resume as Obama is this far in a presidential primary. Unbelievable. Unelectable.
Posted by: AC-n-NC | June 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Barack Obama does not need to explain what someone else says (it is an opinion and many agree with the pastor today; whether you like it or not, or you listen to the whole sermon or not, or have had to deal with rascism or not, the pastor’s statements reflect a group of people in America that still very much exist and Obama denouncing them will not change that)
Meanwhile, Hilary Clinton herself makes “questionable” statements personally that I find offensive and she is making them, not someone else.
So I’m going to stick with Obama.
Posted by: Beloved | June 3, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
What ever happend to freedom of speech? When did it become a trend to blame someone for another’s opinion? Obama is not responsible for anyone but himself! If that were not true, we would all be condemned for the sayings and beliefs of our families and friends! I’m tired of people and their “better than thou” tirade! GET OVER IT PEOPLE! Hilary says whatever she wants and no one sees anthing wrong with it (and it has come from the horses mouth)…Yet, a Pastor (not Obama himself) says something and somehow it’s placed on the shoulders of the next man? U all are a joke!
Posted by: princess | June 3, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
If a white person said things about black people like that….mocking them…the outcry of racism would be unbelievable; however, since this is mocking a white woman, well that’s just okay, isn’t it?
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