Rendell: Clinton ‘Very Unlikely’ To Win
ABC News’ Rick Klein Reports: Staunch Clinton campaign supporter Gov. Ed Rendell said Wednesday that his favored candidate is "very unlikely" to capture the Democratic nomination, and said that will mean the Democratic Party will nominate the weaker candidate for the fall campaign against Sen. John McCain.
Rendell, D-Pa., told Bloomberg Television that he believes polls that suggest that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is a "far better candidate" than Sen. Barack Obama in swing states. But he added that he’s a "realist" who recognizes that superdelegates are likely to continue to flock to Obama until he clinches the nomination.
"I’m a realist, and I think most likely the superdelegates will give Sen. Obama the votes he needs," Rendell said. "I don’t think the DNC is going to fairly adjust what happened in Florida. . . . I don’t think they’re going to fairly adjust it. So I think it’s very unlikely that Senator Clinton can prevail. I think that means we’re not going to field our strongest candidate."
In the interview, Rendell affirmed his support for an Obama-Clinton ticket, but said Obama and Clinton would have to decide for themselves whether a joint venture would work.
"The only way they can work it out is for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to sit in a room by themselves and discuss whether it’s workable," he said. "If they believe it’s workable, then I think that should be our ticket. If they don’t, then we should go on."
Rendell, who has been discussed a potential running mate for either Clinton or Obama, joked that the fact that he wears a flag pin could make him a good match for Obama.
"I kid around and say I’d be a great running mate for Senator Obama. I wear a flag pin, so [it would] be a balanced ticket," he said.
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So much for party unity. Can’t wait ’til Denver when Clinton blows the place apart with a floor fight.
Posted by: David | May 28, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Hillary save us from a president Rev. Wright!
Posted by: Edwin | May 28, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I dont see McCain wearing a flag pin. And whats the reason he doesn’t do so. At the same time nobody bother to raise the issue on him!
Posted by: Peace | May 28, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
So, she’s sending charts and graphics with the daily changing poll data to the super delegates to show that she’s more electable?
It’s hard to win an argument that your electable when you can’t even win a primary election.
Posted by: Lynne | May 28, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Rendell is correct the DNC will put up their weaker candidate and keep their fingers crossed that he wins the GE.
When that does not happen am sure Dean will find something else to blame that on, but it sure as hell wont be his fault, am sure of that.
Obama can always console his self with the fact that he got the nomination and did better than any other AA, all this is such a pity because the democrats has a real chance at winning this election, everything is there for the taking.
Sadly the DNC looks like it wants to keep its record in tact, putting candidates up when everyone keeps telling them that this is the wrong choice.
Posted by: SJ | May 28, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Unfortunately Rendell is one of those people who would never vote for Obama and unfortunately he will never admit it.
The entire Clinton camp still cannot face the fact that someone like Obama can actually takes away the White House they think they are so entitled to. Fortunately, 21st-century white, black and multi-colored Americans have a different idea.
Posted by: JT. | May 28, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Gov. Rendell is a blowhard— I would not want him on my ticket if I were Obama….He is clearly not for a unified party after his comments he just made!!! He also has very poor judgement as shown in his support for the ever deviuos Clinton !!!!
Posted by: Dan A | May 28, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Delusion:
a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact
I think Sen. Clinton is delusional.
Posted by: Lynne | May 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Peace…Americans don’t have to see McCain wear a flag pin…we know which country he loves above all others and the torture he endured as a POW…get real.
I love Rendell and he is a smart man…he should wait until Saturday or Sunday in putting his opinion out there. I think this is laughable that everyone knows the Dems are putting in their weakest candidate and super d’s are being bought.
Posted by: Debra | May 28, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Check out the polls and the facts and all can see why Obama is a very weak canidate and will lose the general election.
Posted by: n912 | May 28, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
PEACE you are the reason I watch these posts and read them.
You are an idiot. I feel good knowing I fought in a war to save your opinion. It makes good comedy for me and my freinds here in the office. Keep it up please’ Its cheaper than cable TV
Posted by: Jim Rod | May 28, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
n912 – those polls change daily and don’t account for the next several months of campaigning, veep choices, etc.
It’s unrealistic to hold up those polls (they don’t all show her ahead.) with the assumption that they are set in stone. Several out today have Obama winning greatly vs. McCain.
Like I said, delusional.
Posted by: Lynne | May 28, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
She may be just as delusional as Obama and his supporters who feel that Obama can take the WH. Maybe you guys really need to wake up and look around, some democrats may not want a republican president but they sure would vote for one rather than Obama.
Don’t keep jumping for joy from what you see in a primary, remember Hillary also has over 17 mill supporters, without those supporters buying into a Obama;s presidency there is no WH for him, Obama will need all of Hillary votes, so far they way they are being treated I don’t see them suddenly having a change of heart.
So don’t start to measure for curtains just yet Obama supporters the race is still not done as yet, Obama now has to beat McCain.
Posted by: SJ | May 28, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
As an ardent Clinton supporter, I’m opposed to any ticket that places Clinton in the VP slot. Nobody votes on the basis of the vice president. If Obama is the nominee, he’s going to lose – let him lose all by himself.
Clinton owes nothing to the Democratic Party. My fantasy is that she’ll leave and make an independent run.
Posted by: bromfield22 | May 28, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Save it Angie – BHO keeps changing his mind or story. Do you think now that he has pushed back bringing the troops home to 16 months after he gets in office that he won’t change it again! Listen up!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 28, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Way to go President Hillary!!!
Hillary won Kentucky and West Virginia by a landslide in spite of overspending in ads 3 to 1 by Obama against Hillary. Same thing that happened in Indiana and Pennsylvannia. Obama is expected to win both Indiana and North Carolina since February. But, Hillary won Indiana and cut Obama’s lead in North Carolina from 20% in February down to 14% in spite of ad overspending by Obama.
Wake up media people or wake up superdelegates. Hillary even won consecutively in Ohio, Texas (Obama lost even he was endorsed by the Traitor Bill Richardson), and Pennsylvannia. Not to mention the other big states such as California (Obama lost in California even though Oprah, Maria Shriver, and Katherine Kennedy endorsed him), Massachusetts (Obama lost Massachusetts even though Kennedy and John Kerry endorsed him), Arkansas, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Florida (both of them are in the ballot) that are crucial in November. Hillary has the most electoral college votes based in these big states.
If you want a Democrat to win then Hillary should be the choice. HILLARY WON THE BIG STATES AND THE SWING STATES. If Hilalry is not the nominee, we will vote for McCain. African Americans are so unfair voting 9 to1 against Hillary not like the white people who fair and thinks who is the best candidate. Who is being racial now? This racial thing about Black has been OVERUSED, MISUSED and ABUSED by these people. Obama, the Obama camp, Clyburn, Wright and others can not fool us anymore. Stop this non-sense.
Wake up superdelegates! Wake up media people.
Posted by: Alfredo | May 28, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
The White House doesn’t need a token. They shouldn’t elect a person based on color or gender. But Obama is getting there because of his color, if he can win.
Posted by: Clyde | May 28, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Rendell jokes about it but the reality of it all, who is making a big deal about McCain not wearing a flag pin? Or Hillary?
Why don’t they just cross the line and work for the republicans, since they seem to be writing their commercial scripts for them.
Its just like everything else, the brown skin requires Obama do so much more, in every aspect, than any other candidate.
Posted by: nospin | May 28, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I think this is EVERYONE’s Fantasy…HRC GOES AWAY!!!!!
Clinton owes nothing to the Democratic Party. My fantasy is that she’ll leave and make an independent run.
Count me in … Please Go AWAY HRC!!!!
Posted by: Pete Rend | May 28, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
lynne When you have a canidate that knows hardly anything about how to be president and he certainly can not hold his own in a debate. Mccain will tear Obama apart in the general election. Oh and a lot of people do not know this yet but the Republicans have some things about Obama and his wife that will come out in October that will send Obama back to Chicago.
Posted by: n912 | May 28, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
McCain does not have to wear a flag pin he wear the flag pin in his broken bones.
Posted by: An American in Canada for David | May 28, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
I hope FL and MI are so pissed off they don’t vote.
Posted by: Debra | May 28, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
The bonehead is going to destroy everything.
Posted by: boneheaded | May 28, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I think this is EVERYONE’s Fantasy…HRC GOES AWAY!!!!!
Clinton owes nothing to the Democratic Party. My fantasy is that she’ll leave and make an independent run.
Count me in … Please Go AWAY HRC!!!!
All those HRC supporters, Please GO AWAY!
Posted by: Pete Rend | May 28, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Obama is definitely the weaker candidate if they DNC give him the nomination and steal it away from the true, substantial leader, H.R. Clinton.
He will of course go on to lose the presidency to J.McCain.
To All Obama Supporters, take note:
Isn’t it amusing how the Obama supporters cry out that Obama is not guilty by association to Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rescko and et al.
But, the Obama supporters claim that John. S. McCain is guilty by political association, with George W. Bush.
Kind of a double standard for the Obama supporters, golden savior!
And believe me, I am no McCain supporter, I believe and support only H.R. Clinton.
Posted by: An concerned citizen | May 28, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
OK, if the flag pin is such a big deal…let’s consider that they are made in China. They might have been made in the USA prior to NAFTA, which Clinton supported before she didn’t.
So, instead of some insane proof of patriotism, why not consider it proof that you supported an idea that might not have been so great to begin with?
Or as support of Chinese capitolism?
And I can’t tell you the last time I heard West Va and Ky used as a positive in an argument….
just goes to show that you should never say never right?
Posted by: HUH? | May 28, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Unfortunately, Melvin, you must not get the caucuses. They should be done away with. Until you understand the system you should not talk such stupidity!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 28, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
If Obama wins the Democratic Party nomination, I am sitting it out at home even if this is my first time to vote. Obama is way over his head for the job. Go Hillary! Run as an independent.
Posted by: Mlengsonkingsley | May 28, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
That’s right Hill supporters, you go with McCain just to defeat Obama because your candidate did not get the nomination. Cut your nose off to spite your face.
Either way, and no matter what happens Hill will be blamed for not doing the right thing long ago. She’ll be responsible for tearing the party apart. She’ll be shown for who she really is.
When she tries to run in 2012 against McCain you can bet that all of Barack’s supporters won’t let her forget it then either…I know I won’t. She’ll never get into the White House after all the harm she’s caused. She’s done.
Posted by: Paul | May 28, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Melvin Obama is not beating Hillary the DNC and superdelegates are. They are not going to let a woman become President because they can not stand for someone of the opposite sex to have that much power. They would and will lose the general election to prove so. And just because people do not vote for Obama does not mean they are racist. It just means they are smart enough to know they do not want the country to go down the drain.
Posted by: n912 | May 28, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Clinton is the wrong choice! She never did understand what the word fair means. She only does things and understands things that will benefit her in some way, even if she had agreed to do things the right way first. She changes her mind whenever she falls behind. We do not need someone who is only out for themselves!!!! She needs to get over it already. I am sick and tired of hearing her same old lines and whines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Pinky111 | May 28, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Lynne, learn how to speak and write good grammar before any criticsm.
Posted by: ABDUL | May 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Clinton only appears to be a decent candidate because Obama has taken the high road throughout the campaign.
With her incredibly low credibility/honesty polling numbers, the additional attacks based on solid evidence, like the recently released grand jury transcripts which have documented perjury – she would not be able to win the White House. Obama actually has been in elected office longer than Clinton. Her travels, albeit sniper fire layden, are truly not legislative experience. Her attempt at health care planning was mute then too.
Obama will win the primary – needing only 46 more delegates. Clinton needs over 200.
He will be the nominee. Now on to get the Republicans out of the White House.
Posted by: Lynne | May 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Obama would be a disaster
Posted by: Andrew | May 28, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
So you want experience and partiotism and think that McCain give you that?
Hand over the presidency to a newbie? Gee, everyone except an incumbent is a newbie at presidency. There is no job like it. Advisors are there to help you govern by offering you more than one myopic, misguided viewpoint. Or you can be like Bush and just ask Cheney or Rove what to do and forget all those experts.
As for patriotism, what better way to prove that you are a patriot than trying to help govern? No one goes through the process of trying to become president unless they are patriotic. It is not a fun job.
Posted by: HUH? | May 28, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
What a jerk!!! Why would you try and hurt the eventual nominee of your OWN party????
Posted by: Rob | May 28, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Obama is going to have a rude awakining once the GE starts he cant even get past Hillary
Posted by: Andrew | May 28, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Clinton was a disaster in the White House. She lobbyied on her husband’s behalf for NAFTA. Worked out agreements as NY senator to outsource jobs to the Indian firm TATA. The list goes on. She’s been a PROVEN disaster for some time.
You can only speculate on Obama.
My bet is totally on him.
Posted by: Lynne | May 28, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
It’s just Hillary’s unlucky timing to run against the first black guy to be endorsed by Oprah. I’m all for Affirmative Action, but I will choose the best candidate not based on skin color, ever! I have noticed the advertising guys have put more black men in commercials than I’ve ever seen before…anybody notice that here in L.A. Black actors are definately benefiting from this primary season.
Posted by: Debra | May 28, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I look for Obama to win the general election. It would help if Hillary was his running mate.
Posted by: hey Scoob | May 28, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Oh you delusional Obama supporters,please wake up.Keep insulting Hillary supporters and your guy will loose in November in a landslide you have not heard of before.
Posted by: Independent Voice | May 28, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Rendel is right and DNC will elect the weak nominee to compete against McCain.
Posted by: Laura | May 28, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
debbie do you understand iraq had nothing to do with 911 as for the men and women enlisting i understand so what are you saying its their fault for enlisting my god how can you sleep at night
Posted by: angie | May 28, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
While I disagree with Rendell on Hillary Clinton, I do have an immense amount of respect for the man, both personally and politically. He would be an ideal running mate for Obama because his primary strength is economics. He financially turned Philadelphia around in two terms as Mayor and the PA State budget is in phenomenal shape after he strong-armed both sides into playing nice rather than engaging in partisan bickering. He’d be a good VP to tackle the economy.
Posted by: Tom G | May 28, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
This is pathetic. Can you say, “sour grapes”? How strong could Hillary be against McCain if she can’t even win her own primary? What party does Ed Rendell claim to be a part of, the Hillary party? Sorry, Mr. Rendell, but the Hillary party is just about over. Some people just don’t know when to leave a party.
Posted by: Sean O'Brien | May 28, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
The Convention’s going to be fun!
Posted by: CD | May 28, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
1) Rendell is no longer a VP candidate.
2) Since when did a flag pin become a prerequisite for the presidency? That’s a real measure of intelligence …
Posted by: Cindy | May 28, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I’ve read the comments, and I’m sorry, but I’m still predicting Obama in the general election. I am not voting for him, by the way. At least not at this point.
Posted by: hey Scoob | May 28, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
For all of you dreamers out there in la-la land – in order to run as an independant you needed to have registered by jan 08 – I don’t she has done that – so – go back to sleep -
and if you don’t support the nominiee – then you as guilty as McCain for killing more troops – your as guilty as those who do nothing to try and change the way things are – your guilty by association – of the racist in this country because a black man will take the office…..
Posted by: jozy | May 28, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
I wish more Superdelegates would think the way Mr Rendell does and say loudly about this.
Good for you Mr Rendell and thank you.
Posted by: catleya | May 28, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
A privately funded re-vote – funded by Clinton Fat Cat supporters – is not legal or fair. Nancy Pelosi was against that as well as any sane person.
Privately funded elections? Funded by supporters of a single candidate? That’s not very democratic now, is it? Gee – I wonder who wins that one?
Posted by: Cindy | May 28, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
I don’t see the Democratic party uniting this fall. The DNC, along with Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, and Kerry have destroyed any hopes of unity. The divisiveness is too strong now, and too late to start the healing process. I wish it wasn’t so, but it’s true. We can’t blame Clinton or Obama, they are both GREAT candidates….I blame the DNC, and the StuperDelegates (yes “stuper”), they have destroyed our party beyond repair this year. McCain will be elected, Hillary will go back to New York, Barack back to Illinois, and Americans will wonder what coud’ve been! I vote we get rid of the game players that have destroyed us this year!
Posted by: david from texas | May 28, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
I prefer Hillary, but I’m just as happy to vote for Obama. The objective is to put a final nail in the GOP’s coffin once and for all. Eyes on the prize, people!
Posted by: Karl Hungus | May 28, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Obama and Hillary could be campaigning together within two weeks if they come to an agreement. This would avoid a delay and a convention floor fight. They’re so close on the issues, there’s really no reason not to. I look for this team to be strongly considered this week by both camps.
Posted by: hey Scoob | May 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Can anyone imagine what the Clintons would be doing to Obama were the tables turned?
Posted by: Churchill | May 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
We believe Hillary will win.
She has the popular vote.
She is experienced, and the one who can go up against McCain.
She is for ALL the people, and a fighter.
Just what we need for the president.
I am not going to say anything negative about Obama, like Obama supporters do Hillary. Let’s stop thie negative comments.
Go Hillary!!
For Hillary 100%
Posted by: kerry | May 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
He’s the weaker candidate, but has more votes, pledged delegates and super delegates??? Yah… ok. The democrats will unite when they realize its about the ISSUES and mccain stands for the total opposite of what hillary is. To vote mccain because hillary lost is just stupid. you know she’d never want that.
Posted by: Chad | May 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I will be rep if obama is elected
Posted by: Andrew | May 28, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Hillary or McCain ’08
Don’t let party “leaders” pick the weak black guy over a strong woman.
Posted by: jozy | May 28, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Rendell, why wait until the DNC makes a ruling? Start your whining early. There is no documentation that Hillary is the stronger candidate. So you can cry, cry, cry all you want and Hillary is not going to win. Go home.
Posted by: The Unshrub | May 28, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
your right kerry
Posted by: Andrew | May 28, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Rendell ran PA into the ground since being elected and now he’s throwing hints that he would make a good VP…..PLEASE, now he wants to run the country into the ground. He’s an idiot.
Posted by: doghouse | May 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Obama had to beat BOTH Bill and Hillary. He kicked the Clinton Machine butt! It was 2 on 1 and he beat them both. Bill and Hill are honorary razorbacks!
Posted by: nospin | May 28, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Also, I don’t want to see Hillary Clinton ANYWHERE NEAR the White House in any official capacity other than to visit! NO to VP. There are a lot of far better VP candidates that that lying hypocrite, Hillary Clinton and her buffoon husband.
Posted by: Jim Koury | May 28, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
This has become nothing but a joke. The concept of a democratic process is nothing more than a bunch of whining and finger pointing when viewed from the outside. Scorned ladies take note. You are doing nothing but giving ammunition (and credence)to sexism with your ultimatum laced crying!
Lastly, allow me to pose a question. If a particular party cannot even work together without bickering then why should one suspect they are capable of leading a country!
Posted by: Rachael G. | May 28, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Over 17 million votes AGAINST William and Hillary Clinton. Who cares if Obama wins or loses. Vote for McCain, so what! There will be no more Clintons in the White House!!!
Posted by: nospin | May 28, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
I think it is Hillarious that Obama thinks he can win when he has blocked revotes in MI and FL.
Other swing states that Hillary can win: AR, WV, KY, and MO.
Hillary is the stronger candidate.
My family and I are all voting McCain if Obama is the nominee. Obama is just too liberal and he keeps flip flopping on his foreign policy.
Hillary 08
Posted by: kerry | May 28, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
It’s amazing how someone can be considered a stronger candidate, after they started with more money, more name recognition, the Democratic Party machine behind them and a popular ex-president pushing them and still find themselves losing.
Seems a little self-serving to me.
Posted by: marcman | May 28, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
GO HILLARY….ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!
Obama will NEVER win in November!!
Obama would only be another George Bush….another no nothing!!
Hillary or McCain
Posted by: kerry | May 28, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
So he is in that same law suite Hillary and Bill are in. So why would he not say this.
She is scum and so is he. If you people only knew all that they are hiding.
Posted by: Becky | May 28, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Obama can’t win without Hillary’s supporters, and he has dug him self a deep grave here. As we all know the General Election is up to the swing voters, these swing voters aren’t going to vote for some one with ties to Reverend Wright. The only people capable of looking over Reverend Wright are the blacks and the democrat extremist (that is the college educated ones that lack any common sense). Gov. Rendell you would do better to get on the ticket with McCain. He’ll be our man, after all he is a moderate republican, that with a democratic congress. We Hillary supporters can live with that.
Posted by: MRogers | May 28, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
marcman it has always been about Hillary Clinton. She cares nothing about the party…
Posted by: Jim Koury | May 28, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
just want to know what hillary supporters think that if she were to somehow take the nomination she would cause such hate amongst obama supporters that she would become unelectable?
or do you think obama supporters are big enough people to just say… whatever its cool?
Posted by: bhrandon | May 28, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I think Hillary should run as an Independent – she would be both of them.
Wouldn’t that be a kick in the pants?
Posted by: Northstar | May 28, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Stealing the nomination from the rightful frontrunner would make her unelectable indeed. I would NEVER vote for her under those circumstances.
Posted by: Jim Koury | May 28, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
IF NOT CLINTON, THEN MCCAIN, THEN CLINTON. OBAMA IS A BLACK CARTER. WEAK…
Posted by: CARL | May 28, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
I HOPE CLINTON RUNS INDEPENDENT!!!
Posted by: CARL | May 28, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Rick Johnson, sexism is WRONG just like racism. Let’s get over these prejudices. I just don’t like the Clintons because they are sleasy, lying hypocrites. Nothing else.
Posted by: Jim Koury | May 28, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Wisconsin for one
Posted by: Jim Koury | May 28, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Hillary Clinton I am so proud of you. Thank you for your efforts to continue to fight for the millions of people who support. Thank you for addressing the issues that matter to many Americans, universal healthcare, affordable education, the war in Iraq, the economy, and our environment. Thank you for not quiting even though there are many people who hate and who are jealous of your achievements. There are still many more people who do love you and believe God sent you to us to serve Him and do His will. God Bless You and I cannot wait till you become the next President of the United States this January 2009. GO HILLARY! GO HILLARY! FIGHT! FIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIN YOU ALL THIS TIME. WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PERSEVERANCE. YOU ARE A WONDERFUL LADY AND YOU ARE THE BEST CANDIDATE IN THIS ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. GO HILLARY! KEEP FIGHTING FOR US!
Posted by: marygrace | May 28, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
libre – so, according to you, only Hillary supportors are “real” Democrats? That’s insane. You’re obviously another Republican trickster trying to sow discord among Democrats. How sad.
Posted by: David Z. | May 28, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Obama will have a task before him if he is nominated. He will need to convince Democrats that he’ll be a good president. He’ll need to convince white voters that the color of your skin does not control your destiny. He’ll need to convince women voters that he is the best choice for their interests. I think he can do all of this. I think he just needs to be given the time. I think he will have enough time. And the superdelegates also think this. In the end, it does no matter if he loses. What matters is that the Democrats practiced what they preached- equal justice, equal treatment, and that every boy- or girl- can indeed be President. This is the true triumph. Not the Presidency.
Posted by: hey Scoob | May 28, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Will we ignore all the red flags about Obama and blindly follow?? Throughout history, this has always been a dangerous and disastrous move.
Posted by: april | May 28, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Get your facts straight. HRC wanted a revote that allowed only people who voted the first time to cast a vote – duh? Obama rightfully blocked it. This meant that Undecideds could vote again but people who played by the rules could not. Guess playing by the rules means you get penalized? Icke demanded disenfranchising 100% of all Florida and Michigan delegates and arm twisted the Committee to agree with him. Icke as in the HRC campaign. The rest would have settled for 50%. Go skewer him. Look up old reports in the media archives. Why were you not all howling and screaming last August 2007? Now he wants to change the rules again since Big Tuesday did not produce a winner. What kind of Americans are you who want to change rules mid-stream? I thought fair play and all of that stuff was the American way. Florida and Michigan were disenfranchised long before Big Tuesday. Refer me to HRC statements where she protests that decision before that date! Yes, HRC agreed to the disenfranchisement because she did not think she would need the votes. So much for being ready to hit the ground on Day 1. And, how much is she going to be able to contribute to the DNC campaign chest? Nada, zip, zilch, because she is deep in debt. Why should Obama hand over our contributions to help her election. This 67 year old white LOL who has a decent education and still holding a decent paying job finds nothing in HRC to represent me. I did it my way on my own two feet and stomped over nobody. She has used name recognition all along and whined all the way about this and that, left conspiracies, right conspiracies, sexism, ad nauseum. The woman has never had to get a real job in the open market place and work for promotions like many of us women have had to based on real experience not as the wife of. I have been a Dem for 43 years, but will not support a Party that cannot set rules, keep them, and allow cheating. Obama supporters think he is the stronger candidate based on numbers so stop trying to shove that HRC is the most electible down our throats. Now caucuses are unfair? They got Bill Clinton into office! She presumed too much because she is a Clinton. And? Break time over. Back to work.
Posted by: KiwiTriciq | May 28, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
As they say, that’s why we play. Had we based the Democratic nominee on the polls preceding the primaries last year, Hillary would have been the inevitable nominee. She would have won handily. Now that the primary season is coming to a conclusion, Hillary was not the chosen one. For Clinton supporters like this bafoon in Pennsylvania to now claim that current polls indicate that Hillary will win the general election is plain stupid.
Posted by: Jorge | May 28, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
It is a shame that in this day and age we still have super delagates! It is horrible. I believe with all my heart and soul that Hillary is the best and ONLY candidate to go up against Mr. McCain. So, thanks to all of you that will now push this country into further messes. Hillary in 2012!!!
Posted by: Terri | May 28, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Yeah, Mr. Rendell! Get her done already. Show her the exit door so that we can see a clearer picture who will our next president to rebuild or ruin our country.
Posted by: number8th | May 28, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Hillary! you go girl! They tried so hard to get rid of you, but NEVER GIVE UP! That is terrifying for Obma´s people because they know he does not stand a chance against you!
HILLARY DO NOT GIVE UP!! TAKE THIS FIGHT TO THE CONVENTION !! YOU WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT.
WE HAD ENOUGH OF OBAMA´S LIE AND SEXISM.
HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE AND HAS MILLIONS WHO SUPPORT HER! MADAM PRESIDENT! DO NOT GIVE UP! YOU ARE A FIGHTER AND NOT A QUITTER. WE LOVE YOU!
We will never ever vote for Obama. We want Hillary and Hillary it will be!
Posted by: kerry | May 28, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Someone needs to tell Rendell that he lucked up into the Governor’s position but he will never be senator, vpres or pres. He isn’t polished enough. A pennsylvanian.
Posted by: JJ | May 28, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I will vote for either Hillary OR Obama. Anybody but a Republican. I think people’s fear that Obama can’t beat McCain are overblown. As long as McCain needs Bush as his principal fundraiser, he’s toast. Stop bickering and get ready for a Dem sweep in November!!!
Posted by: Karl Hungus | May 28, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Hillary! you go girl! They tried so hard to get rid of you, but NEVER GIVE UP! That is terrifying for Obma´s people because they know he does not stand a chance against you!
HILLARY DO NOT GIVE UP!! TAKE THIS FIGHT TO THE CONVENTION !! YOU WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT.
WE HAD ENOUGH OF OBAMA´S LIE AND SEXISM.
HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE AND HAS MILLIONS WHO SUPPORT HER! MADAM PRESIDENT! DO NOT GIVE UP! YOU ARE A FIGHTER AND NOT A QUITTER. WE LOVE YOU!
We will never ever vote for Obama. We want Hillary and Hillary it will be!
Posted by: kerry | May 28, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
I cannot believe how stupid the Democratic party is. It has foisted Obama upon us, and he will lose to McCain — no doubt about that. I’d like to go live in a parallel universe in an America that is wrapping up 8 years of President Gore, and is about to begin 8 years of President Hillary. Instead, DOOM.
Posted by: Cardsgal | May 28, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Would Hillary accept Obama’s ticket??
I hope so but I am not very sure. Because many remarks have been made in this campaign but it is time to come together in the interest of the party. I hope Clinton understands this. May God bless America.
Posted by: I.A.T.SMITH | May 28, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
No matter what the DNC says – Hillary keep fighting on! Take it to Denver. We are 100% behind you.
Go Hillary 08!
Posted by: BZ | May 28, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
hhmmm last poll I saw had Obama up by 51 percent over McSame. Like I said, it’s MAY…. November will bring a much different story. President Obama on January 21, 2009. YAY.
Posted by: Jim Koury | May 28, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
If hillary wins the nomination with the popular vote argument is because MORE PEOPLE prefers Democrat Hillary Clinton than unknown obama.
Except more people have chosen Obama than have chosen Clinton. The only way to make it otherwise is to play fast and loose with the truth.
Posted by: oddjob | May 28, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Hillary will probably have herself strapped to the podium at the Democratic Convention and demand to be the nominee. They will have to have security guide her off the stage so that the country can celebrate our next President….OBAMA 08/12!!!!!!!!
Posted by: dan davenport | May 28, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
“Touring” is ALL Obama has done during these primaries. Touring all 57 states, and one to go AK,and HI with the money of the blind sheep he’s leading to slaughter, touring on the tail of the liberal media, touring on a couple of books he wrote (and even there he stole the title “Audacity of Hope” from that pastor whom he now “disowns. “Touring” on the coattails of Hillary Clinton, whose EVERY PROGRM he now mimicks as “his own,” touring on his 120 “present” votes in the Illinois Senate, and now “touring” in Florida, now trying to convince the voters there to go for him. By the way, folks, Obama kept himself on the ballot in Florida, and if he had won — which he did NOT — he’d be “touring” to the convention in a much better position. I’m not interested in a “tourist” as president. I’m intersted in a proven native. I WILL WRITE IN HILLARY’S NAME ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT if the DNC and back-stabbing superdelgates try to shove Obama down our throats
Posted by: kerry | May 28, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Sen. Clinton should go home to State of NY and rest comfortably. Sen.Clinton’s self-convincing subjective arguments of electability with no proved mathematical numbers like Sen. Obama has earned not only deride the DNC’s rules and democratic process, but dictate the DNC’s prescribed democratic rules as her own rules. I think the ways Sen. Clinton has understood the NDC’s rules are her rules. The outcomes of primary elections do not go to her well, she can change the rules in the middle of the game. It is Sen. Clinton’s rules. It is just ludicrous. How can American voters trust her highly logical and very highly
strategic arguments when a candidate has shown the ignorance to the DNC’s prescribed rules. I can understand only a common sense language just like Sen. Obama has talked to and shown how he has earned it. He has been working so hard to earn it and also has adhered to the DNC’s prescribed rules that have set for the game of the primary elections.
Go Sen Obama for the presidency.
Posted by: Christopher Xaphakdy | May 28, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
It’s obvious the DNC was determined to have Obama as the nominee from the beginning. The Dem. Party sucks. Our country has a bunch of jerks in powerful positions. I surely hope I have the opportunity to vote these idiots out.
Posted by: C Good | May 28, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Would Hillary accept Obama’s ticket??
It’s not likely. How can a former fist lady cling to VP and former president to push his wife to accept it? It’s another conspiracy from Obamania to insult Clintons.
Posted by: Max | May 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
nit pick nit pick nitpick all you supposed supporters are like 3 year olds
his middle name is what
he likes what on his pizza
he said what wrong
if her last name wanst clinton she would be….where exactly
how many times has clinton mispoke and out right LIED
its funny we obama supporters get called delusional and kool aid drinkers
i say you better check your own water source
Posted by: bhrandon | May 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I would like to know what the Obama people see in him. He thinks there are 57 states. He does not know what city he is in when he is in it and he does not know anything about this countries history. So much for being an American. I think not.
Go Hillary or McCain.
Posted by: Barb | May 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Would Hillary accept Obama’s ticket??
It’s not likely. How can a former fist lady cling to VP and former president to push his wife to accept it? It’s another conspiracy from Obamania to insult Clintons.
Posted by: Max | May 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
how was the DNC determined to have obama from the beginning
you have obviously just joined us recently
because anyone knows, and even HILLARY knows herself that before feb 5th she and everyoen else thought she was going to win
she even says so herself
she LOST
thats right
SHE LOST
because she had a crappy campaign strategy, and failed as a nominee
Posted by: bhrandon | May 28, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Yo Eddie Boy!
I LOVED you when you were my mayor, and I LOVE you now as a great Governor! Good ole “be honest and tell it like it is” Ed Rendell! Take it all the way to the convention floor Hillary, its THAT important to pick the stronger candidate!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 28, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
However you would like to label it to make yourself feel better is fine, although please see Kerry 2004.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
So much for his talk about everyone getting along after this process finishes.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | May 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Very funny.
Although superficially it looks like Ed Rendell is accepting the defeat of Hillary, in reality he is saying its still not too late to nominate Hillary the stronger candidate. Expect him to come back and say he was misquoted. LOL!!
Hillary should take it to the convention and make sure Obama, the weakling does not get nominated.
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Gov. Rendell is one of the few decent Democrat leaders left…It is sad to see Obama and his supporters attack everyone who supports Hillary. Obama will lose in November since he and his supporters have forced many Democrats to leave the party. Obama and his team think all Democrats will unite behind him in November–they are the ones who need a reality check not Hillary!!! No one feels that Obama is the true winner with all the deceptive actions that went on during the primaries…McCain here we come!!
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
What’s extremely bizarre is that while people argue that Hilary’s supporter’s won’t support Barack, they presuppose that his supporters will support her. What do you think will happen if all the “black” voters, and “white, yuppie, arugula eating liberals,” stay home or vote for McCain as well? Hilary loses, and so does the country. If people don’t pull it together, that’s what will happen.
I honestly think that, however this is resolved, both the nominee and the loser will work to unite the party and help all of these histrionic folks realize the sheer lunacy of voting for McCain out of spite. Not only will we be doomed to four years of McBush, our great grandchildren will still be trying to dismantle a radically conservative Supreme Court. Is it really worth it?
Posted by: Tony | May 28, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
I’m curious, if Hillary was the “stronger” candidate, how is it she’s loosing? You’re not stronger just because you say you are. She hasn’t proved herself strong at anything but lies and spin.
Posted by: dan | May 28, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
To the obama supporters that question the “Fair” vote count of FL & MI – or “obama played by the rules”
A RE-VOTE would of solved all these problems from the past – BUT
A RE-VOTE was scheduled and funded – approved by the DNC, State officials and Clinton – OBAMA BLOCKED A REVOTE!
This is a FACT!
So….Obama should get ZERO votes in FL & MI – WHY did he Block a Re-vote???
Obama is trying to control and STEAL the nomination, this is just one of the many reasons that we will NEVER all “come together” – and the fact that Obama is NOT Qualified!
Posted by: Molly | May 28, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
I am a former Clinton supporter very disappointed at her campaign tactics. Because Clinton and Obama were similar enough on the issues I decided to support Obama. Now I found myself reading these hateful rants and I am sickened. “Weaker” candidate or not, “inexperienced” or not, Senator Obama will win the nomination fairly based on the DNC rules. If Hillary would have won, I would have immediately supported her despite the fact I am angry at her tactics.
Those who would support another Republican administration after what this country has gone through in the last 8 years are no better than the many voters whom I bet you all once said, “I told you so” when it finally became clear that Bush scammed the nation into war. Now here you are about to do the same thing. Maybe you’re right…, Obama can’t unite the party. Then again, I don’t believe ANYONE can unite the likes of many who wrote above. Regardless of the nasuea produced by this primary season, I will vote for the Democratic nominee. At least I will be able to sleep at night knowing I did what is best for the general welfare, not for my own selfish or vindictive purposes. As one person stated earlier, maybe Rev. Wright has Amercia pegged right. How sad.
Posted by: Dwain | May 28, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Hillary supporters, no matter how much she supports Obummy if he gets the nomination, please do NOT vote for him, lets unite and either not vote or vote for McCain… we should not allow Obummy to get in the white house.
May god save us!
Posted by: Carmen | May 28, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
The Iraq War and Supreme Court nominations seem insignificant to the damage that Obama can do if he is elected. No matter if Hillary is the VP or if she campaigns for Obama, I and many others of sound mine WILL NOT vote for Obama if he is on top of the ticket. I care more about my child’s future than to put it in the hand of someone who push the correct buttons when voting, has radical friends, wants to talk with radicals, is inexperienced, arrogant and lies with the blow of the wind.
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I hope the SD are actually paying attention and don’t come out for Obama after June 3;that will just push people over to McCain. Remember, McCain was going to switch to the Democratic party a few years ago so alot of people don’t see him as this polarizing figure. If we really want a Democrat in November then we have to take this to the convention.
Posted by: unstoppable 08 | May 28, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I get the feeling Rendell is one of those persons with something to gain if Hillary is elected. I also feel Rendell is the talking peice (in this case) for HRC; still throwing sinks and what a horrible thing to say about another party candidate. I at least admire HRC’s tenacity even though she goes down fighting taking everybody with with her. Because if Rendell was in the running for VP he can kiss that goodbye.
Posted by: Oh Please | May 28, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Obama hopes playing the race card will send him straight into the White House. Ha!
And how did you all like the Obama camp suggesting Clinton has it in for him? Yeah that is the kind of President we Clinton supporters want. Yeah right!
Posted by: MRogers | May 28, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
The Iraq War and Supreme Court nominations seem insignificant to the damage that Obama can do if he is elected. No matter if Hillary is the VP or if she campaigns for Obama, I and many others of sound mine WILL NOT vote for Obama if he is on top of the ticket. I care more about my child’s future than to put it in the hand of someone who can’t push the correct buttons when voting, has radical friends, wants to talk with radicals, is inexperienced, arrogant and lies with the blow of the wind. Also, he is too libel! McCain is more of a conservative Democrat and is the lessor of the two evils.
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Tony | May 28, 2008 5:01:38 PM
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There’s one problem with your spin (sorry, that’s what it is): And that is Hillary supporters, moderate democrats are not issuing empty threats to change the minds of Obamabots when they say they’ll vote McCain. Hillary supporters wouldn’t mind voting for McCain,
the same is not true for “black” voters, and “white, yuppie, arugula eating liberals,” Who fears McCain presidency the most? the Obama group. If Obama is the nominee, many democrats will go with the second best choice McCain. You can try as much as you can, but McCain is no GWB.
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Debbie, I’m totally with you!!
Posted by: Fran | May 28, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
In theory they would have been able to work well together, but the events have created some bad blood. I’m not going to point fingers or name names, as that time is almost over and somehow we will have to get it together. So, in effort to move forward, ‘whoever’ is the nominee will have to pick someone that brings something different, but harmonious, to the table…I like Bill Richardson. Of course, I would love if one of the big guns got into it just to shut the whiners up, but that won’t happen. Personally, I’d prefer if Al Gore bumped them both and took the ‘winner’ as his VP.
Posted by: MrMajek | May 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Tony stated:
“What’s extremely bizarre is that while people argue that Hilary’s supporter’s won’t support Barack, they presuppose that his supporters will support her.”
It doesn’t matter if his supporters support Hillary. Hillary’s supporters will do anything to keep Obama from being elected. His hatred for white Americans run very deeply now, along with his racist comments. Obama has caused and allowed this divisiveness to continue and now he will pay for it. Sorry, I don’t see him winning the GE without Clinton supporters…thats a fact. I don’t see him winning the GE anyway.
Posted by: david from texas | May 28, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
i am a former Clinton supporter very disappointed at her campaign tactics. Posted by: Dwain | May 28, 2008 5:05:25 PM
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LOL!! Yet another Obamabot posing as a “neutral democrat”.
Once again, there are enough Hillary democrats in swing states who would ensure a McCain landslide if Obama gets the nomination.
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
I have had the experience (not a great one at that) to listen to BHO in person and it was like being at a rock concert. He said the same thing that he says over and over it’s time for change. WHAT MYSTERY CHANGE is he talking about? I visit his website, listen to his speeches and have heard the same speech over and over.
I am by all means not a politically smart person, but our country is in trouble and both choices are not great choices, I am still very undecided as to whom I will vote for, BHO I know nothing about, McCain, with him I know or at least have an idea what this country will become, with BHO I have no clue at all, we have to put someone in the white house I just hope that we as Americans choose wisely even though both McCain and BHO are not great choices.
Posted by: tiredofthefighting | May 28, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
I agree….Obama promotes “change” but has yet supported his platform with a remedy to create this change. I hear him repeating a lot of Hillary’s comments and plans, but nothing original of his own. When he is on the stump, he blunders and lies, as about his uncle. He’s doesnt think before he speaks and is very quick to judge. We don’t need a President like this and I’m glad that if Hillary is not the nominee, then McCain will be the President.
Posted by: david from texas | May 28, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Molly | May 28, 2008 5:11:25 PM
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You are right. He is a charlatan. He opposed revotes because in a revote he would have lost FL and MI handily.
And some one suggests Judas should be the running mate for Obama. That would be a very nice gesture to Hillary supporters from the Obama camp.
I’m afraid it’s too late for the democratic party to “patch up”. Prospects are increasingly looking better for John McCain.
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
DUH and Debra – yes, we all know about McCain’s patriotism, but do you really believe that Obama is not patriotic??? If so, then you are the ones that need to “get real”. The fact that McCain does not wear an American flag pin is a sign of disrespect, and if this is going to be an issue for Obama, than it should be an issue for McCain as well. But, in all reality, it doesn’t really matter anyway. Obama is the next President, and I will be back on here in November to throw it in the faces of all you Clinton/McCain supporters.
Posted by: Timothy | May 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
McCain embodies patriotism, thats why he doesnt wear a flag pin. And to come on here and downplay a POW, you’re sick. I bet you don’t mind living in freedom everyday as a result of sacrifices service men make daily. Obama has no clue about patriotism!
Posted by: david from texas | May 28, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Obama is the next President, and I will be back on here in November to throw it in the faces of all you Clinton/McCain supporters.
Posted by: Timothy | May 28, 2008 5:20:43 PM
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Very nice unity talk from an Obamabot.
The truth of the matter is Obama loved Marxist professors. His political career began with the blessing and guidance of convicted domestic terrorist America- hater Bill Ayers. He refused and lectured on why one need not wear a flag pin UNTIL he figured out that’s not a politically smart strategy. He sat in the church for 20yrs where the sermon was “G.D.America”.
And you pretend people cannot have genuine doubts about his patriotism?
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
WHY IS THERE A RE-VOTE IN FL AND MI???
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID OF CLINTON BEING SO ARROGANT. SHE IS PUSHING FOR AN INCLUSION OF THEIR PRIMARIES AND THIS RE-VOTE JUST BECAUSE SHE THINKS IT WILL WORK OUT FOR HER ONLY.
WHAT ABOUT PARTY RULES??? THOSE STATES PURPOSELY BROKE THE RULES AND DESERVE NOT TO BE COUNTED. ITS A SIMPLE THING…YOU TICK OUT OF THE BOX AND YOUR VOTE IS INVALID
WE CANT KEEP ON BREAKING PARTY RULES JUST TO SUIT ONES DESIRES. WE CANT EVEN KEEP ON VOTING TODAY, NEXT MONTH AND ANOTHER ONE NEXT MONTH JUST BECAUSE ONE CANDIDATE IS NOT HAPPY
SHE IS JUST SO DESPERATE FOR POWER AND HUNGRY FOR THE PRESIDENT’S SEAT. ITS PURE ARROGANCE THAT SHE IS DEMANDING THE PARTY TO GO WITH HER DEMANDS WHATEVER N WHENEVER SHE LIKES.
GOOD FOR OBAMA TO SAY NO. HER BULLYING ARROGANT TACTICS IS GAINING HER NOTHING AT ALL BUT SHAME AND SHE DESERVES A KICK IN THE BUTT.
THESE PPLE HAVE NO EMBARRASMENT AT ALL. HER GUTS IN GETTING INTO A FOUL SMELLY STAGE
Posted by: nathan | May 28, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
You can say what you want about Clinton supporters and tell her to go away and be as mean as you want, but your guy is going to need the Democratic vote to get elected and you folks telling HRC to go away in rude terms are not making it any easier to swallow an already bitter pill. For moderate Dems, some will go with McCain, but that is their choice. That doesn’t mean that you cowboys can throw them out of the Democratic fold because they don’t bow down an worship the Rev. Barack.
Posted by: KC+1971 | May 28, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Fran..Thanks!
David…I totally agree with you 150%..we need to vote McCain to keep Obama out. I really wanted to write in Hillary, but I thought it is better to vote for McCain to give him the votes he needs to beat Obama.
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Timothy, dream on… Republicans will vote for McCain and most Hillary supporters will vote for McCain… that is a fact. Obama has no chance!
McCain has proven to be a better man, a better person and a better senator than Obama. It’s been over 2 years that Obama went to visit the troops in Iraq… why because he doesn’t care, he is giving you empty promises he cannot keep since the president alone cannot withdraw the troops. But again he does not care!!
Posted by: Erika | May 28, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
This notion that Obama is trying to steal the election is ridiculous. If the Clintonistas want their girl to win so badly, why didn’t they get out and carry Virginia? Or Maryland? Or Iowa? Or Wyoming? Or Idaho? Or Oregon? All they had to do was go out and vote. The fact is that by every relevant measure — number of states carried, number of voters who expressed a preference, number of delegates won, number of superdelegates, Obama has come out ahead. And he did that against a candidate who, in December, was assumed to have the nomination locked up. Hillary does not deserve to win because a) she is a congenital liar, and b) she has run an incompetent campaign.
Posted by: billinvirginia | May 28, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Dan A said “Gov. Rendell is a blowhard” – You’ve got that right. He has done NOTHING for Pennsylvania. He railroaded gambling through with the promise of property tax relief and guess where all of those funds have gone so far?!?!?! Airports, stadiums & his buddies pockets. Now he want to turn our turnpike over to a foriegn company. The man is an idiot. I can’t believe people voted him into the governorship TWICE!!!! Particularly after he left Philadelphia such a mess!
Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 28, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Girgadis – You stated my sentiments exactly!!!
Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 28, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
You got us McCain, we love our country more than our party. We won’t turn our back on our country the way Obama turned his back on our country when Reverend Wright was putting us down!
Clinton supporters for McCain!
Posted by: MRogers | May 28, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Listening to all this discussion about “the strongest candidate” is an interesting, and flawed argument, one of convenience. A friend described the the Clinton approach as similar to that of a trial lawyer, who ould throw everything into the mix to win the case, whether by substantially disproving the opponent’s case (acceptable) or on a technicality (does not work in politics). Also, in a trial, usually everything said in the courtroom is forgotten after the verdict, in politics it it not (e.g. RFK assaniation.
Back to the “stronger candidate” questions: unless the candidate who wins the elections has something clearly flawed about them, they should be the nominee, even if the party thinks that the other candidate would be stronger. If that were the case the polls would be used to decide these things, and maybe Gore would be a “draft-in” right now. I think Clinton is actually the stronger candidate (and I am an Obama supporter), but there is a reason why she has lost the races to Obama. Imagine the uproar in a reverse situation – say Gore running against Hillary, and Hillary in the lead, and arguments being made that Gore should get the nomination because he would be the “stronger candidate”? Anytime someone suggests these types of arguments, just reverse it and see how it feels, you might not like it one bit…
Believe it or not, the idea of sticking to the Principles and Rules as agreed upon is actually more important than who wins the election – the concept of changing the Rules when you do not like the impending outcome, not that good a practice to get used to…
Posted by: AbeLincoln | May 28, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Helena said “I don’t want Ed Rendell or Hillary Clinton on any ticket.” I’ll 2nd that!!!!
Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 28, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Yes we are proud of our country and her people.
No Obama ever.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I see there are a lot of Republicans here posing as Hillary supporters. I’m wondering if they are paid campaign people.
Posted by: dan | May 28, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
I think Gov. Rendel’s statement was good because it might wake up thousands of people to the fact that the DNC may get the opportunity to choose the weaker canditate. And if enough people wake up to this terrible prospect then they will support Hillary.
The democratic candidate will win the GE on the basis of votes, and it appears very likely that Hillary will end up with more voters that BO. Therefore she will be a stronger opposition to Mc Cain. I think she is by far the most presidential candidate, and will be the next president of the US.
Posted by: Mary | May 28, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Well I have supported Clinton this far. I will say this and I read a lot more than I write on these post because of all the personal attacks from both sides. I am a 60 year old working female. I wanted Hillary to win but also like Obama. I think it is childish, these threats I read from mostly women supporting Clinton saying they will vote for McCain if Clinton does not win. If the only reason you support her is because she is a woman and not for all the right reasons then shame on you and double shame on you if you switch to McCain just from spite or because you are a sore looser. Someone had to win and this time it probably wont be her. I feel she is the more experianced but that isnt everything. Hillary and Obama see eye to eye on whats important to the Dem party and what it will take to fix this broken party. I will support who ever wins the nomination as main concern is not letting McCain continue to ruin this country. For those jumping to McCain out of anger. Grow up and start thinking about down the road. Maybe you were not Dem to begin with and having a woman in office is all you cared about.
Sen. Obama you now have my support and yes I would like you to ask Clinton about the VP but trust your decision to who his best for the job. Sen. Clinton, maybe next time and I hope for the greater good of the party you will help support Sen. Obama after June 3rd. Note: I know it means little but three Rep. friends of mine said they were voting Obama and would not vote the Rep ticket this year. I expect a lot of that. God Bless The USA.
Posted by: Z. | May 28, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Believe it or not, the idea of sticking to the Principles and Rules as agreed upon is actually more important than who wins the election – the concept of changing the Rules when you do not like the impending outcome, not that good a practice to get used to…Posted by: AbeLincoln | May 28, 2008 5:41:52 PM
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Provided all the mess-up helps you. You can pretend taking the high road and employ all the dirty tricks and in reality take the lowest of the low roads.
example- vigorously campaign in FL and MI. Run TV ads, encourage your surrogates to canvass the voters to vote uncommitted in MI or vote for you in FL, simultaneously pretend and lie you’re not competing there.
AFTER, you lose, once again PRETEND you’re all for rules, and lie you never campaigned in these states.
Truly inspiring. Hope and change.
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
One reason Hillary looks stronger than Obama in some (not all) polls right now is that she has been on the attack against him pretty much nonstop for the last month and a half. By contrast, he has said almost nothing negative about her. There have been negative things said about her in the press — mostly when she starts daydreaming about another assassination, or recalls her experiences under fire in Bosnia — but nothing negative from the Obama camp. On the other hand, it’s clear that he’s not afraid to go negative on McCain. So I don’t think you can draw any strong conclusion about who would be the stronger candidate on the basis of polls. As AbeLincoln (above) points out, it’s better to just stick to the rules.
Posted by: billinvirginia | May 28, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Maybe you were not Dem to begin with and having a woman in office is all you cared about.
Posted by: Z. | May 28, 2008 5:48:22 PM
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Yet another Obamabot pretending to be neutral democrat.
Posted by: long-term democrat | May 28, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
No one is jumping to McCain out of anger. It’s just to keep an unprepared, ill-equipped and inexperienced Obama and his America hating wife and friends out of the White House.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Obama is not given the nomination, he won it fair and square. For Hillary to pretend otherwise is just sour grapes from a pathological person with delusions of grandeur. The Clinton-Bush era is over and Sen Obama will be President Obama as he soundly trounces Bush 3(McCain).
Posted by: rockychance | May 28, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
For some time now Hillary has been running for 2012. I see that Rendell has hitched his wagon to her campaign. They will do whatever it takes for McCain to win. Sickening.
Posted by: Jill | May 28, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Let’s see now. Barack Obama has had to deal with an almost constant Barage of attacks by both Clintons and their vast array of 527 groups. At the same time, he’s been campaigning against McCain and still leads in the national preference polls. He has won the greates number of states, the greatest number of popular votes, the greatest number of delegates and the greatest number of superdelegates. Obama has a solid following among Rebublicans, too. His approval rating is twice that of Clinton. During all of this, he has been raising money at a rate more that three times that of Clinton and McCain combined. Someone please tell me – with examples, if you don’t mind – exactly how Obama is the “weaker” candidate? That’s right. You can’t because the statement is sheer Clinton-blinded idiocy. It’s nothing more than another statement from the politics of desperation.
Posted by: Reality in America | May 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I don’t want to vote for anyone out of spite. I voted for Gore, he lost to Bush. I voted for Kerry, he lost to Bush. Where were all of you then ? Now, you are whining because I find your candidate less palatable and think that by insulting my intelligence, age, sex or whatever works itself in to your brain cell that you can convince me to vote for this guy. Well, HE HAS to convince ME of his sincerity and he just hasn’t done that. Personally, I feel like all of you and the media have shoved Obama down our throats until we are ready to gag. If you want him, great, vote for him. I will be wherever you were when Bush won not once, but TWICE.
Posted by: KC+1971 | May 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
McCain is the Hanoi Candidate!! Brainwashed by the Viet Cong. Don’t trust him!! Warmonger McCain…
Posted by: doc | May 28, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Without ed rendell hillary would have lost pennsylvania. Yes americans have voted for barack in large enough numbers and in various types of states that he has the lead in delegates. His campaign is not run by the Democratic machine, that’s hillary. His campaign is mostly financed by small donors, you know regular american people, 1.5 million. And last I checked this country is a democracy, yet so many repub are in a rage even after they had control of the WH, about a democratic WH. and soo many hillary supporters are in a rage because the dem. machine didn’t win. I can’t wait to see the number of repubs that will actually vote for mccain plus all those hillary supporters voting for mccain. November is only six months away.
Posted by: stupid american | May 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting Republicans to pull the lever for Obama in November. He can’t win with just the far left and black vote(please see kerry 04 for reference). The self proclaimed uniter has failed and has not united anyone to his foreign policy platform of weakness and appeasement and his empty rhetoric. He has only succeeded in uniting people against him.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
After reading this article, I was a little upset and shocked by Gov. Rendell’s comments. Obama ran the better campaign but he is the weaker candidate. Hillary should have won the nomination months ago, but she ran a dismal campaign. Obama was inexperienced and still master the election process. Hillary had 35 years of experience and signed an agreement to disallow Michigan and Florida months ago. If she was the stronger candidate she would have won.
But I remembered there are seven stages of grief. Gov. Rendell along with many Hillary supporters are suffering. I listed the stages below. Hopefully, Gov. Rendell will reach stage 7 before the convention.
Shock or Disbelief
Denial
Bargaining
Guilt
Anger
Depression
Acceptance and Hope ( Hope!!!! Obama ’08)
Posted by: Unite08 | May 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
After reading this article, I was a little upset and shocked by Gov. Rendell’s comments. Obama ran the better campaign but he is the weaker candidate. Hillary should have won the nomination months ago, but she ran a dismal campaign. Obama was inexperienced and still master the election process. Hillary had 35 years of experience and signed an agreement to disallow Michigan and Florida months ago. If she was the stronger candidate she would have won.
But I remembered there are seven stages of grief. Gov. Rendell along with many Hillary supporters are suffering. I listed the stages below. Hopefully, Gov. Rendell will reach stage 7 before the convention.
Shock or Disbelief
Denial
Bargaining
Guilt
Anger
Depression
Acceptance and Hope ( Hope!!!! Obama ’08)
Posted by: Unite08 | May 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
After all this woman’s shennanagans, who can even stand her much less actually trust her? Don’t go away mad, JUST GO AWAY!!!
Posted by: ac | May 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
SJ….You have been crying that same old tune for months now. I understand that you are disappointed that Hillary lost but it is time to put all the pettiness aside and do what is best for this country. You continue to say how bad Hillary supporters have benn treated, well, it has not been a bed of roses for the Obama supporteres. It is as simple as this, (someone had to win and someone had to loose). It is almost over for the primaries and it’s tiome to stop with all the hate! Let’s move forward and get the reps out of the WH so we can move forward in a positive way.
Posted by: Emilianna | May 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
After reading this article, I was a little upset and shocked by Gov. Rendell’s comments. Obama ran the better campaign but he is the weaker candidate. Hillary should have won the nomination months ago, but she ran a dismal campaign. Obama was inexperienced and still master the election process. Hillary had 35 years of experience and signed an agreement to disallow Michigan and Florida months ago. If she was the stronger candidate she would have won.
But I remembered there are seven stages of grief. Gov. Rendell along with many Hillary supporters are suffering. I listed the stages below. Hopefully, Gov. Rendell will reach stage 7 before the convention.
Shock or Disbelief
Denial
Bargaining
Guilt
Anger
Depression
Acceptance and Hope ( Hope!!!! Obama ’08)
Posted by: Unite08 | May 28, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
After reading this article, I was a little upset and shocked by Gov. Rendell’s comments. Obama ran the better campaign but he is the weaker candidate. Hillary should have won the nomination months ago, but she ran a dismal campaign. Obama was inexperienced and still master the election process. Hillary had 35 years of experience and signed an agreement to disallow Michigan and Florida months ago. If she was the stronger candidate she would have won.
But I remembered there are seven stages of grief. Gov. Rendell along with many Hillary supporters are suffering. I listed the stages below. Hopefully, Gov. Rendell will reach stage 7 before the convention.
Shock or Disbelief
Denial
Bargaining
Guilt
Anger
Depression
Acceptance and Hope ( Hope!!!! Obama ’08)
Posted by: Unite08 | May 28, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
I agree with Gov. Rendell. I think Hillary is the stronger more experienced candidate. If the DNC votes otherwise, I will support Obama. We certainly don’t need another Republican president, period, end of story. Let’s see what a Democratic president and congress can do to turn around the national economy, get us out of the freakin’ Iraqi war, etc. No matter which candidate you favor as a Democrat, we absolutely cannot have a McCain presidency!
Posted by: Geoff | May 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
McBush supports the demise of the USA with his failed foreign policy and his failed economic policy. He does not support veterans. McBush is not a patriot. He is anti-American and he does not wear a flag pin.
Posted by: Johnny | May 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Yes the primaries are almost over and I’ll have a second opportunity to vote against the faux-uniter come November. Looking forward to it.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
What will be really funny is listening to everyone whining in 2 years when, no matter who is elected Prez, nothing has really changed. Obama has already admitted we aren’t coming out of Iraq in the very near future, and if he is elected, watch his 16 months stretch out from there. People are so foolish, they really think there is much difference between either party.
The problem isn’t the Democrats OR Republicans, the problem is the Democrats AND Republicans. You gotta admit, they do an excellent marketing job. They get everyone worked into hysteria, get rich in the process, and then do whatever they want once elected.
Posted by: EOBFEOBF | May 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Obama may or may not be the most electable in the general election; that’s debatable and not really answerable at this time. But, in my honest opinion Obama IS the best choice for America. Clinton is along the same line as Bush when it comes to openness and honesty vs. spin. She frequently uses half truths, stretches reality, and perhaps even outright lies (think Bosnia among other things). We really need open honest discourse from our leaders, not spin. It’s time to end the Bush/Clinton era of politics and move on to something new. At least we know Obama IS the most electable among Democrats. That’s a demonstrated fact.
Posted by: Earth | May 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Weaker in the polls today, maybe and maybe not depending who’s polls you look at. They are so wrong most of the time and even as they stand it is awfully close. Once we are down to either Obama or Clinton versus McCain the polls will change anyway. Now the realilty. The DNC will follow its own rules and at the most will seat half the delegates or all and count them as half a vote each. Thats the least their punishment to the states will allow. They will not completely go back and change the rules or punishment this close to the end of a nomination that would change the outcome of the front runner and runner up. It just wont happen. It would tear the Dem party up and even worse. Also the DNC may sit half the delegates and give the Mich Ind delegates to Obama. Also the DNC will look at the bigger picture. Obama pulls in twice as much money as McCain and Clinton is 20mil(last count) in dept. Money talks and the ability to raise contributions means a lot to the DNC. Also so far Obama has been handling McCain just fine. The Clinton years were full of scandals both his and her’s. The McCain camp would use every one they could to defeat Clinton. You can bet on that. Also bluntly, if the DNC were to take the front runners nomination away or change the outcome, after the blow up in this country, how many African Anericans do you think would vote for Clinton if she won in that way? So McCain wins. Bottom line is the DNC will look at the whole picture and make its decisions on not only whats best for the party down the road but will stay within their rules as the high courts determined they can. It will not be all for Clinton and the way she wants it or has to have it to win. I would imagine that Obama will have all the delegates and superdelegates needed as of June 4th. I believe and may be wrong he has 3 dozen SDs in his pocket already that are just waiting for the voting to end on June 3rd. I hope for Clinton’s legacy and possible run in 2012 or 2016 she does the right thing at the end.
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
CLINTON AGREED WITH THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WITH ALL CANDIDATES, IN THE BEGINING OF THE CAMPAIGN TO NOT CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA OR MICHIGAN AND TO HONOR THE RESTRICTIONS. THE STATES WERE PROPERLY WARNED AND YET STILL CONTINUED.
ALL OTHER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOLLOWED THE RULES AND DID NOT CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA. OBAMA WENT SO FAR AS TO TAKE HIS NAME OFF THE MICHIGAN BALLOTS, HE KEPT HIS WORD.
IF SHE WAS WINNING, SHE WOULD HOLD OBAMA TO HIS WORD. WHY DOES SHE GET TO CHANGE THE RULES? THE RULES SHE AGREED TO FOLLOW.
SHE’S CAUSING NOTHING BUT A MESS AND IN THE PROCESS CONFIRMING THAT HER WORD MEANS NOTHING.
Posted by: Sarah | May 28, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
I think Clinton will be resigning the Senate after Obama’s win, so she can “spend more time with her family”. I can’t imagine her helping Obama as she said she would – just another one of those things to say to get more votes.
Posted by: jon sid | May 28, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Gov. Rendel is a CORRUPT politician…everyone knows that…but the Press never said anything. He is the one as responsible (among other things)for the bad schools in Philly…Rendel and other politicians FIRED the best School Superintendent Philly ever had….for ‘political reasons’. Superintendent Hancock (i think that was his last name) fought with those politicians to make them accountable and make the schools better….at the end he got fired because he was too “outspoken”. Rendel (and the teacher Union) never care about the welfare or education of the Children in his own State. Check PBS library and get the facts., you will get mad ehan you watch that PBS documentary….and how individuals like Rendel try to lecture the American people when he is a real trash.
Posted by: Pedro | May 28, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Hillary!
Break up the ties with the Democratic Party!
take it to the convention if they don’t seat FL and MI as is!
Give them a lesson!
Make it or break it!
Save this nation from Obama!
Run independant!
Posted by: Suzi | May 28, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
I guess the Obama supporters didn’t participate in the last election, or else they would realize that you can’t win the presidency with just the far-left and black vote.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
As a Hillary supporter, I agree with Ed on one account; without Hillary as the nominee the democratic party can kiss this election good riddance. The leadership and the super delegates have done a foolproof job in dashing all hope for victory. Next, we look to a worthwhile independent candidate to support such as a Hillary/Michael Bloomberg ticket. If not, John will secure the votes necessary for victory.
Posted by: benvictor | May 28, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Rendell is no better thn Wolfson, Ickes or any of the other surrogates. He builds up Hillary by dimenishing Obama instead of building her up on her own merits. In doing so, he divides the party. He also participates in the fractured logic and ever changing goal posts as Clinton falls further behind. He has been mentioned as a possible VP. It seems unlikely based on his behavior. He can’t keep his mouth shut. He is a big mouth back slapping politician from the last century. His style of politics is what we are trying to retire.
Posted by: xargaw | May 28, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Hillary should not accept DNC ‘s offer and should not share the FL and MI delegates half and a hallf with Obama!
She needs to take it to the convention.
Make it or break it!
Posted by: John | May 28, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Watch the meadia rating going down, once Hillary is out of the race. It’s Hillary that is keeing their ratings up high beacause the majority of the world wants to see her win. Obhama is playing the same game with Hillary as Bush did Al Gore. EVERY VOTE MUST COUNT or Americans should stop preaching DEMOCRACY to the WORLD
Posted by: Mike | May 28, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
THE MEDIA AND THE GOOD OLD BOYS, ANTI-CLINTONS STOLE THIS ELECTION FROM THE CLINTONS…
OBAMA WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THIS FAR , IF THE MEDIA HAD NOT BEEN BASHING THE CLINTONS FOR MONTHS ON END. AND CREATING A GOD AOUT OF OIBAMA… NOW WE KNOW OBMAMA AND ITS TOO LATE.
WE SETTLING FOR INFERIOR CANDIDATE, OBAMA. THANKS TO DNC LOSERS CLUB.
LOSERS.ORG.
Posted by: TJ | May 28, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Hillary should not accpet the DNC’s decision this weekend and take it to te convention!
or run as an independant for president!
Posted by: SUE | May 28, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
This blog represents all that is wrong with America…..we are divided with no respect or civil discourse provided for anyone of a differing opinion…would you act the same towards your mom? why are you acting this way toward folks you don’t even know? Perhaps you feel powerful in your on-line character? Or, are your arguments so weak that you have to resort to personal attacks?
Excuse me, I am going to go throw up….we really have reached a new low in our Country.
Posted by: L Schultz | May 28, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
We are with you all the way to the convention Hillary,don;t let Obama or his in the tank media and there pundits dicktate what you are going to do.WE ARE 100% WITH YOU IF YOU TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION.
Posted by: Adam | May 28, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Rendell is a realist. He knows Obama won’t win November. One thing I like about our dear Governor he says what he thinks not what is politically correct.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Jim -
Learn to spell Independent.
You Hillary supporters are easy to spot.
LOL
Posted by: ScottWV | May 28, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
I am a Obama supporter, but more importantly I am a Dem party supporter.
As much as I feel that Clinton was not the better canidate I would have supported her if she had won. The Clintons are not going to drop the party that made them what they are and helped bring them this far. They love the Dem party and will stand by it until the day they die. I have faith both Bill and Hillary will do whats best in the end. It may be after June 3rd or after or later, but I have confidence they will stand by their party and fight and campaine for Obama. The Clintons might not get the white house back this time but they are not going to forget 4 or 8 years down the road. So you people that just cant accept the fact there had to be a looser and winner and she lost this time. And think she is going to jump the Dem ship and act like bad sport must not have much respect for her. She will not act childish like you, she will not vote for McCain is she doent win like you, she will not drop the Dem party like you and make threats like you. She is powerful, full of spirit, intelligent Dem party supporter herself and will fight for the Dem Party and Obama. If not she will loose more respect than she will gain and her Dem legacy will be squash as her chances down the road. Have more respect for your canidate and follow her example and quit being threatening cry babies.
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Jill -
Were you and Jim in the same spelling class, or did your spelling suffer at the hands of your obvious Clinton brainwashing?
Posted by: ScottWV | May 28, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Mike, I do agree with you that after Hillbilly is gone, the network ratings may drop a bit, but I don’t think it’s as much about the world wanting her to win as it is people enjoying watching her go down in flames. The Clintons have a history of getting what they want, and this whole run of hers has been part of the “master plan” for a long time. Considering that many people think the Clintons are about themselves and a place in history FAR more than actually doing any good for the country, it’s fun to watch the wheels come off.
Posted by: EOBFEOBF | May 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
L Schultz.
I reacted the same way. Before I get off of this blog, it’s nice to read another (there are others) reasonable minded person. I was really shocked at what I’ve been reading. I have to tell myself that these are Republicans trying to push buttons. Otherwise, I’d have to think the worse about the American mind.
Posted by: Dwain | May 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Nobody has won. Does Obama have the 2025 that is needed yet. That is a big fat NO. Until then there is no winner. Hillary take it to the convention!
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
I wish people would stop saying that Obama is black.He is not. He is 50% white,46%Arab and 4% esle.Even if He win’s, we still do not have a black president.Do You people understand this ???
Posted by: GDC | May 28, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
I wish people would stop saying that Obama is black.He is not. He is 50% white,46%Arab and 4% esle.Even if He win’s, we still do not have a black president.Do You people understand this ???
Posted by: GDC | May 28, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T
No ‘a’ baby…
Posted by: ScottWV | May 28, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
SORRY JILL…..meant LINDA…
whooooooooooooooooooooops
OBAMA 08
Posted by: ScottWV | May 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
And I see that there are two Jills. I’m the pro Obama Jill and I’ve just changed my name…
Posted by: Jill K | May 28, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Some of you people are more dumb than a slice of bread!!!
One of you says that Obama is going to win the nomination because he is Black – LMAO.
Another one of you says that he is going to lose the general because he is Black – LMAO.
The plain simple truth is that Obama is smart and talented. Hillary is too. The only problem for her is that she was so arrogant from the beginning and didn’t have a strategy for the race if things didn’t go her way.
She ran out of money and had to loan herself 11.4 million!!! What kind of math would she bring to the White House?????? Are you people stupid?
Hillary can’t even run a darn campaign, what makes you think she can run the White House? I, like many others, thought Hillary would have this thing wrapped up, but the reason she doesn’t is because she is not prepared. If this is what her so called experience gets, then I’ll pass. She may be smart but she ran her campaign like an airhead!
She AGREED that Florida and Michigan should NOT be counted. Then she turns around and says that they should be counted. What is wrong with her? She can’t keep her stories straight. I love Hillary, but right now she looks foolish. If she flip flops like this now, how could she ever stand strong as a president? I’m all for a woman rocking the White House, but you have to be a woman of your word. If you agreed the votes wouldn’t count, then you should stick to that. Hillary lost this race for herself. It’s sad because I like the old gal.
Posted by: Sara | May 28, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
No, I’m not kidding.
Posted by: Jill K | May 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Poor democrates just cant get it right. The GE is there to loose and with Barack Obama and his obama-fanatics, the dems will loose.
Posted by: mary | May 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Obama won the primary fair and square. Hillary was the inevitable candidate and I supported her early on. But Obama earned my respect and my vote by the way he conducted himself during this process. Hillary lost my vote and my respect during this campaign. Like many other open minded americans I am now certain Obama is by far the best person to lead this nation. He does understand the issues and is able to work with people.
Regarding foreign policy, McCain would have been a better candidate if the cold war was still on (i.e. 30 years ago). The Soviet Union is long gone; things are not “black and white” anymore (or “you are with us or against us”). That was the only approach that the Bush’s team recycled from the Reagan administrations knew: Cheney, Ramsfeld, Rice (with a degree on Soviet affairs), Abraham, etc. It will be hard to find a worst combination of arrogance, ignorance and incompetence in history. That is the same obsolete experience that McCain will continue.
We and the world deserve better. Obama and his smart team is the best choice.
Posted by: hank | May 28, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Y’all need to no I waz the spelling bee champ here in Travis County West Virginia for both years I waz in the 10th grade.
When I get national, I mayz run for the border to Ohio or Pennsylvania to visit me some big cities.
Posted by: ScottWV | May 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Y’all need to no I waz the spelling bee champ here in Travis County West Virginia for both years I waz in the 10th grade.
When I get national, I mayz run for the border to Ohio or Pennsylvania to visit me some big cities.
Posted by: ScottWV | May 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
It’s time you american stop crying like little babies and get behind Barack. He is your only hope. Just Like one lady said it earlier, vote for J.Mccain and you will regret it.
You have such a short memory. Remember what happened when you vote for Bush twice???????????????
The world is watching……
Posted by: A.W.Delph | May 28, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
How disappointing is it to read the hate filled disrespectful comments concerning both candidates. I have always been amazed at the sheer lack of caring and consideration human beings display on a daily basis. I dont’t know whether to laugh or cry when I think about being of the same race as you…the human race.
Posted by: Kim | May 28, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Would Hillary accept Obama’s ticket??
It’s not likely. How can a former fist lady cling to VP and former president to push his wife to accept it? It’s another conspiracy from Obamania to insult Clintons.
Posted by: Max | May 28, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
L Schultz- I too felt that way. I am an Obama supporter and have seen insults, name calling, lies etc.. from all canidate supporters. I have seen people try to talk about issues that are important and ask questions that have merit about other canidates and have seen them get slammed with name calling and one line insults. Worry not my friend. The people on these blogs are a very very small number compared to over all voters and you really cant even decide how the country is feeling or doing things as a whole by whats on these blogs. The media doesnt help and spins things out of control. I would like them to start a blog with no spin headline that allows only real decussions and deletes anything but.
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Contrary to popular opinion, I think Obama would win the GE over McCain soley because the American people are tired of the war and they want our troops and our money to come back home. McCain=War, Obama=Change
Posted by: Paula | May 28, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
CW
“real decussions”
Invest in a dictionary idiot!
Obama ’08
Posted by: pete | May 28, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Aw shoot concerned citizen, I expected to see at least 1 million supporters on there, you really had me going for a minute, 2500 signatures is not going to change the DNCs mind or the rest of the Democratic party. OH btw most people don’t like being threatened and those threats aimed at the DNC who happen to be people probably wont go over very well. I knew Clintons support had dropped but I was way off she went from 17 million who voted for her to 2500, not looking very good.
Posted by: Common Sense | May 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Hillary or Bust, Hillary for Prez if not my vote is for Sen. John McKain
Posted by: Laren | May 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Rendell mayored a city that wanted Ricky Williams over Donavon Mcnabb.
He still got that disease.
Just like Don, Obama will have to prove him and his doubters who is the weak and who is strong.
Posted by: Tony | May 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Paula
You are an idiot.
McCain wants to end the war and bring the troops home but he believes Iraq should be stabilized so a massive genocide does not occur.
Obama will not even commit to a timed dated for withdrawal. First, “less than a year”. Then, “maybe 16 months”. Now, “18-20 months.”
You support genocide with Jimmy Carter Obama?
You are an idiot!
Posted by: Theresa | May 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Sarah,
thanks,thats exactly what many women thinks but scared to say.
Instead some are becoming so bitter and refuse to support DEM now.
They are only make things worse for themselves.
Posted by: kc | May 28, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Tony
Please speak English.
We do not understand ghetto.
Posted by: Theresa | May 28, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Paula,
If you think Obama will end the Iraq war he hoodwinked you. As much as we would like that war to end to do so now would only cause more problems.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Sorry for the typo. But pointing out ones spelling or lack of on a word or two doesnt prove any positions and is just another way of insulting some one on these blogs. Im not running for president or you might have a reason to be concerned.
See- Even my fellow Obama supporter throws insults at me by calling me an idiot because I didnt spell a word right. Must make him feel big or something.
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
On a brighter note, this time next week, the Hillary debacle will be OVER!
Hillary is cut from the same cloth as her LYING, IMPEACHED from POTUS husband, Bill (“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”) Clinton.
Anyone but Hillary ’8
Get the crying towel, Hillary — you’re DONE!
Posted by: Got Earl? | May 28, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
KC
I’m sure you understand sign language.
the closed fist with the rise of the middle finger
Posted by: Tony | May 28, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I am glad to see that I am not the only one who remembers the Carter years and draws a parallel between Obama and Carter. I would like to see Obama as Secretary of State or in another cabinet position, but not as president. If he wins the nomination, my vote goes to John McCain.
Posted by: questioningy | May 28, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Why does this surprise me? The Clinton supporters would rather the Democrats lose to McCain than keep their mouths shut and try to defeat a third Bush term. I started off being a Clinton supporter but over the last several weeks she and her gang have convinced me she is not worthy of being president. This is another example of why I hold that view
Posted by: nick | May 28, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
For Yoda08:
I’m about to retire after 20 years in the navy, I’ve been to Iraq, on a 31st MEU deployment to far east and I feel everyone has a right to give thier opinion. McCain should be questioned on not only why he doesn’t wear a flag pin, but why he wants to continue that war in Iraq. If you haven’t been there and seen the things that are happening there you should try joining up and taking a tour over there. Let me tell you it would be a wake up call you will remember forever.
U.S.Navy Active Duty
USNH Japan
Posted by: Bishop9109 | May 28, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
dont all you people realize that there
are hundreds of people who dont vote in
these primeries ? and whoever is or
becomes president can only suggest and
congress passes legislation. I wont vote till the general election and then
vote for i think is best qualified
Posted by: fred b davis | May 28, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Rendell is another one who is dreaming of lala land, he may not even know how to analyse a candidate.
If Clinton was a stronger candidate how come she lost so much votes, lied occasionally, misspoke many times, ran a very poor campaign and a loss of 11millions among other things??
If Hillary cannot run a small operation like this, how can we trust her in the affairs of this nation?
And how can she said shes prepared from day 1??? umm
Rendell’s comments just shows how stupid he is…Im still in school but appalled at how some people can be so dumb
Posted by: haris | May 28, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
All you so called DEMOCRATS that continue to holler that if your candidate don’t win you will vote for McCain, STOP YOUR WHINNING AND GO A HEAD AND REGISTER REPUBLICAN NOW!! BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT TRUE DEMOCRAT IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CROSSING THE PARTY LINES IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
DO IT NOW DON’T WAIT BECAUSE WE DON’T NEED YOU!!! TRADERS!!!! YOU ARE HURTING NO ONE BUT YOUR OWN IGNORANT SELVES.
Posted by: STOP IT!! | May 28, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
I wish for a day, only one day, where Obama spend time explaining concrede policy that works, instead all he does is finding new ways to characterize Clinton in a negative way.
Nobody believes Obama can put together a rainbow-ticket (Obama + ‘Woman’) without Clinton. He only leaks this stuff on VP-search to smear her and continue the Dems Elders error from the start:
Nobody thought Clinton could win this base without the African-American vote. Kennedy, Biden, Dole and Kerry were wrong. Again!
I wish Obama spent more time talking politics, and less time looking smart!
Posted by: S. Johnsen | May 28, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Nick,
You are full of it. The reason people will not vote for him is because they know he cannot straighten out the mess this country is in. Hope and Change rhetoric doesn’t take care of the hard challenges that confront the next President.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
The only hope is a combined ticket holding the democratic coalition together. I would say the same thing if the situation was reversed and Hillary was ahead. Any break in the coalition will be deadly for us. The party and it’s voters are starkly divided, despite what the talking heads keep repeating on TV. When people vote for a candidate in the primary, especially one that has gone this long, they are invested in that person. There is an emotional connection, subconcious or not. 17 millon (roughly 1/2 of democrats) is a lot of voters. If even a small margin of those deflect, we are toast. Frankly, that’s not a sword I want to die on.
But since the left wing liberals like Pelosi, Dean, Kerry, Kennedy, Dashle and all the other losers want to stick it to the Clintons, well, that’s what they are going to do. Throw the only two term democrat since FDR under the perverbial “Bus”. Put some bland white man on the ticket and some portion of the women will bolt, not to mention the latinos, rural working class, jewish voters, older voters, damning us to another Dukakis style loss.
It would be funny, if it wasn’t so damn sad.
Posted by: What is wrong with the Democrats? | May 28, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Haris,
Rendell is politically savvy and knows who the stronger candidate is. That’s your problem you are still in school and have no clue about the political world. Just because somebody is pretty and can read speeches that Hope and Change doesn’t mean they can do anything. This is NOT American Idol. This is serious business.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
The Demos sure have short memories. In ’04, they ran a lefty who at least had some experience in government behind him, and he lost to what probably has to be one of the weakest POTUS this country will ever see on the Republican side. Now it’s ’08, and they are running a lefty who is even more left than Kerry, and has probably cast more “present” votes than yes or no votes in his VERY brief career in the Senate. And this time, they are running against a moderate Repub with lots of experience. In some ways, it sort of feels like the summer of ’72. The loud section of the Democratic party takes over, swaying in the summer breeze singing Kumbia. The problem will be when summer is over, and the reality sets in that idealism does not elect Presidents in the country.
Posted by: EOBFEOBF | May 28, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Rendell and others like him is why the DNC has lost these past two elections against the RNC. It appauls me and sickens me that our party in a time of such tormoil can act this divisive. This is why I don’t participate in politics on any level. People like him and most of Clintons supporters gives rise to the question of “Why bother?”. Election after election we see the same old divisive negative attacking, support my candidate or else type thinking. It’s just selfish, self-serving politics. I retire in 10 months after 20 years in the Navy and see the same thing in our chain-of-command, which is why I’m so happy to be getting out. Iraq was my worst nightmare and anyone that hasn’t experienced that war need to step back and contemplate thier happiness and freedom.
U.S.Navy Active Duty
USNH Japan
Posted by: Bishop9109 | May 28, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
The key difference, the winning difference between the republicans and democrats.is they get solidified early. They rally behind the party line.They all get on board. In 2000 the repubs were pretty well set after SC when bush cut McCains Knees out from under him. After that the message was universal and unified. The dems will divide and conquer amongst themselves. they will self destruct due to their commitment to their own uniquenes.. In 2000 Al Gore had to get every last opinion in the room and then he still changed his mind again. Here is the reality… Democrats sweep the House elections and pick up 3 seats in the senate. Then they will control of both houses and the new President John Sidney McCain (elected largely because we really are a nation of biggots) will be lucky to pass his own gas..
Posted by: brian | May 28, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
J,
I may be a student but let me tell you this.
You cannot even tell me anything against my arguements on Hillary ;P
are you a hypocrite?? :P
Posted by: haris | May 28, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
For Hillary is all or nothing.
If she doesn’t have the nomination, it’s likely that she will not win the NY senator position.
Posted by: JohnS | May 28, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
And because you are almost certainly correct Brian, we will have another 4 to 8 years of gridlock in our Government. No matter what your party affiliation, partisan politics as much as anything will be our undoing. Going in almost any direction would be better than going no-where. And that’s what our government is best at. Spinning it’s wheels and blaming the other side for any lack of progress.
Posted by: EOBFEOBF | May 28, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
If Ed rendell is such a rabid supporter of Clinton that he thinks Sen Obama is the lesser candidate, he should simply leave the DNC when Sen Clinton forms an Independent party! He can take with him Sen BayhIII, Ted Strickland, Debbie Wasserman Shultz and all those who have participated in the negative campaign within the Democratic party. Folks like them have provided ammunition for the RNC against Sen Obama, who is from their own party.
By trying to propagate the notion that somehow Sen Obama obtsructed the seating of Fl or Mi delegates – is bizzare. He and Sen Edwards simply followed the rules – Sen Clinton did too in the beginning but then flip-flopped on the issue!
In front of all of us!
Are we Americans going to be fooled bY sen Clinton – just as we were fooled into the Iraq war? Are we that gullible?
Posted by: gk | May 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Experiance>> Experiance>> Experiance!!
Everybody talking about Obama’s lack of experiance.
What kind of experiance do he need experiance of bull, because that’s all our past few presidents ever gave us.
I’m sure they were experianced before they got in office.
The longer the Bush’s stayed in office the worst this country became.
That’s experiance for you.
Posted by: Tony | May 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I agree, please go and vote for John McCain and get this over. With the crossover votes he will win any how.
Just wait for the draft to come. Get your son’s ready!!!
Posted by: Mini | May 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I’m a 48-year old woman who think Hillary would be an atrocious candidate. In fact, I know she would be horrible candidate because I’ve witnessed her lack of character and whiny “the boys are so mean to me attitude.” She’s devisive and dishonest as well.
Posted by: Lisa | May 28, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
I hope Obama picks Sebelius as his VP.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Yes We Can | May 28, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I hope Hillary Clinton runs as an independent candidate. I really hope she announces that by tomorrow morning.
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Hope | May 28, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
You know I was waiting to see if any of you Obama supporters were going to correct your sick “O” Concerned Citizen Blogger. But, just like Obama, you set quietly by, it’s just like when Obama set quietly by, while Reverend Wright damned our country.
God Bless America
Posted by: JakeT | May 28, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
haris,
Obama was outspending her 3:1. His backers are not all working class people, if you think that you are naive. They are virtually tied in the popular vote.
If the democrats had winner take all like the Republicans she would be the nominee.
Obama has done his share of mistruths and misspeaks as well.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I am much more than you think I am, Mr Smarty pants J or wahtever,
I am well aware this is not a small thing and its not a belittling exercise for Christ sake.
I asked how can Rendell said that Clinton is the stronger candidate when everything [almost everything] Obama did showed hes much better off than Hillary.
Now, can you tell me how can you brand her a stronger candidate when all these facts Ive quoted is all against her???
When a tiger defeats a lion, would you still call the lion ‘stronger’??
As I said, I maybe in school but I am much more than what you think I am. Dont give me all those childish name calling and silly excuses
Posted by: haris | May 28, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
He only said what everyone thinking objectively already know.
Posted by: leche | May 28, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
TO OBAMA AND HIS SUPPORTERS GET OVER YOURSELVES. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH BITTER, AWFUL, NASTY PEOPLE. YOU HAVE DISPLAYED DISRESPECT TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN. STOP WHINING AND GROW UP! JUST TO LET YOU KNOW I LOVE AND SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE SHE ADDRESSES THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN MY LIFE, SUCH AS UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, AFFORDABLE EDUCATION, AND AN ECONOMY THAT ALLOWS ALL AMERICANS TO BE ABLE TO GROW AND DO BETTER THAN LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. IF THAT IS ALRIGHT WITH YOU BITTER OBAMA SUPPORTERS, IF I AM OFFENDING YOU THAT I DON’T FALL FOR ALL THE RHETORIC THAT OBAMA HAS BEEN MAKING THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN, THEN THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. OBAMA SUPPORTERS ACT AS IF EVERYBODY HAS TO SUPPORT OBAMA AND IF ONE DOES NOT, THEN WE ARE ALL STUPID, UNEDUCATED, RACISTS. BY THE WAY HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT DIVIDING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE FACT IS THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT OBAMA FOR WHATEVER REASONS AND THERE ARE ALSO MANY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON. OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN VERY DISRECPECTFUL TOWARDS HILLARY CLINTON JUST BECAUSE SHE HAS NOT DROP OUT OF THE RACE, HEY ONCE AGAIN! THERE ARE MILLIONS OF HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS WHO DOES NOT WANT HER TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE. BUT I GUESS SINCE YOU HAVE SHOWN YOU TOTAL DISREGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE’S VIEWS, THEN WE ARE ALL STUPID PEOPLE IN YOUR EYES. STOP YOUR WHINING AND HAVE RESPECT FOR OTHERS. FOR YOUR INFORMATION THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO INFORMED THEMSELVES ABOUT THESE CANDIDATES AND EVALUATED THE DEBATES AND JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICAN, OR INDEPENDENT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL VOTE THAT PARTICULAR PARTY’S NOMINEE THIS NOVEMBER. ONCE AGAIN! I LOVE HILLARY CLINTON, I AM PROUD HILLARY CLINTON, AND I PRAY TO GOD THAT SHE DOES BECOME THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HILLARY CLINTON, THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING FOR US AND GOD BLESS YOU.
Posted by: marygrace | May 28, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
haris,
“I am well aware this is not a small thing and its not a belittling exercise for Christ sake.”
Well said. It was a very positive campaign until Hillary found out she was losing.
Obama for President!
Posted by: No Fury No Hell | May 28, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
hey “bill” you always did your best work with your pants down around your ankles!!!!
justsayNOtoHILLARY&BILL!!!
Both Scumbags!!! No Honesty, No Integrity, No Character, No Ethics, No Morals!!!
Posted by: fred | May 28, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Mini,
For you to think any of these candidates are going to completely pull out of Iraq is naive. Obama is not going to do it if he is smart because it will cause more problems.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
marygrace,
Some of these people just don’t get it.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
marygrace,
“TO OBAMA AND HIS SUPPORTERS GET OVER YOURSELVES. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH BITTER, AWFUL, NASTY PEOPLE. YOU HAVE DISPLAYED DISRESPECT TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN.”
Well, get out more. You’ll meet real working class people. You’ll get to know the pulse of the people. We’re sick of the same old politics that keeps perpetuating itself because experience/history.
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Politics as Usual IS Experience | May 28, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
I am writing this with two purposes in mind, one to tell “peace” that he or she is an idiot, second, to remind the HRC fans that she is done. Or are you still waiting for the shooter to come out of the grassy knoll?
Posted by: Nestor in Miami | May 28, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Look what this country has gone through the last eight years with a president who was not qualified! I don’t want to suffer another four years. If it’s not Hillary, it’s McCain for me!
Posted by: Robert Zuckschwerdt | May 28, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
outspending???
I cant believe you can say anything about money.
C’mon, everyone knows Obama’s campaign hav so much cash and as expected he used that cash for the campaigns, thats why his fans gave him the finance. What do you think he should have done with the money?? Give to charity???
Unlike Clinton, she didnt have that many donors.
I accept Obama has said some things but reality, Hillary has said much more unpleasant things than him. thats the truth.
and the latest count so far shows Obama is still leading big time my friend. you just forgot to wear your specs granpa :)
Posted by: haris | May 28, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
It is amazing that all of you continue to believe that Obama or Clinton will bring the troops home!! Truth is..no one will bring the troops home! You do not wake up one day and say “o.k., boys, load yourselves in the plane, you all are going home”!! Waht are you, all brain dead? AND nobody mentioned the draft!! Won’t you be surprised that Obama or Clinton will tell you,after they are elected that “oh, well, at this time we have new information that tells us that we need to keep troops in Iraq and we are also sending troops to Afganistan”! It’s POLITICS as USUAL! At the very least, McCain is the only one telling the truth is this scenario!
BTW…I am a Clinton supporter, but will vote for McCain is she loses!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Nestor in Miami,
Obama is the master of the same old politics.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Marygrace Good post! We agree with you 100%!! Hillary 08 or McCain
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
No Obama supporter has explained how he will win with just the far-left and black vote. Is that where the hope part comes in?
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
All you so called DEMOCRATS that continue to holler that if your candidate Hillary Clinton don’t win you will vote for McCain, STOP YOUR WHINNING AND GO A HEAD AND REGISTER REPUBLICAN NOW!! BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A TRUE DEMOCRAT IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CROSSING THE PARTY LINES IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
YOU DON’T NEED TO ANNOUCE IT. JUST DO IT NOW!! DON’T WAIT BECAUSE WE DON’T NEED YOU!!! TRADERS!!!! YOU ARE HURTING NO ONE BUT YOUR OWN IGNORANT SELVES.
SEE YA!!GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
Posted by: To The Closted Republicans | May 28, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
J,
If Obama outspent her 3:1, the question becomes what has she got to show for it? Obama has:
- the delegate lead
- the superdelegate lead
- the popular vote
- more states won
- unprecedented voter turnout
I think we should contribute a few more dollars to his campaign.
Hillary has:
- less trust
- less money to run a campaign
- a high profile name (+ cheating husband)
- a divisive trump card (MI and FL)
Obama had 3:1, but he played fair and won.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Metrics | May 28, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Another reality: Obama wants to raise taxes…on Social Security, on Capitol gains, on gasoline, on just about everything to pay for all the free stuff he can give to the poor!! Right! Affirmative Action-Max! If you think you had bad times with Bush…you are going to get hit so hard in your pocket book that you won’t know what hit you!
So, any small company will have to pay more taxes on Social Securiyt,if you have a decent profit sharing,you pay more taxes, if you have decent IRA yuo will be paying more taxes, if you sell your home for more than what you paid for it, you pay more taxes, and he will re-install the death tax..so when you die, you’ll pay taxes on your own funeral! He will ruin this country..AND I think that is his plan..take from hardworking people and give it to the blacks and the poor! Talk about the anti-christ…
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
micha6888, be fair. He also wants to give some of that money to Africa. He did pledge his allegiance to Africa after all.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Weaker in the polls today, maybe and maybe not depending who’s polls you look at. They are so wrong most of the time and even as they stand it is awfully close. Once we are down to either Obama or Clinton versus McCain the polls will change anyway. Now the realilty. The DNC will follow its own rules and at the most will seat half the delegates or all and count them as half a vote each. Thats the least their punishment to the states will allow. They will not completely go back and change the rules or punishment this close to the end of a nomination that would change the outcome of the front runner and runner up. It just wont happen. It would tear the Dem party up and even worse. Also the DNC may sit half the delegates and give the Mich Ind delegates to Obama. Also the DNC will look at the bigger picture. Obama pulls in twice as much money as McCain and Clinton is 20mil(last count) in dept. Money talks and the ability to raise contributions means a lot to the DNC. Also so far Obama has been handling McCain just fine. The Clinton years were full of scandals both his and her’s. The McCain camp would use every one they could to defeat Clinton. You can bet on that. Also bluntly, if the DNC were to take the front runners nomination away or change the outcome, after the blow up in this country, how many African Americans or any body else do you think would vote for Clinton if she won in that way? That along with the past scandals and baggage the Rep would use agains Hillary the outcome would be, McCain wins. Bottom line is the DNC will look at the whole picture and make its decisions on not only whats best for the party down the road but will stay within their rules as the high courts determined they can. It will not be all for Clinton and the way she wants it or has to have it to win. I would imagine that Obama will have all the delegates and superdelegates needed as of June 4th. I believe and may be wrong he has 3 dozen SDs in his pocket already that are just waiting for the voting to end on June 3rd. I hope for Clinton’s legacy and possible run in 2012 or 2016 she does the right thing at the end.
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Hope can sell. sure .. But more people are buying fear these days.. always have
Posted by: brian | May 28, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
The reason that Hillary lost is because MOVEON+OBAMA took the nomination from her.
I will not vote for MOVEON+OBAMA…
I will do my best to help Mccain to beat MOVEON+OBAMA!!!!
ALL THE MEAN OBAMA SUPPORTERS JUST WAIT!!!
Posted by: very_ mad | May 28, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Mary Grace, it should not come as a suprise to you that Obama supporters are nasty and vile!! That is the kind of people that Obama attract! They are the one’s that will vote for Obama because HE is one of their kind..the ones who complain that they have never gotten a fair shake in life! The kind that can overlook Obama’s lies, his whinning and his anti-america pastor, his anti-american friends, his mobster friends and his anti america wife! Must be they believe that America is a nasty, mean country too! Maybe they are anti-American too!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
You know why some super delegates are jumping into BO’s band wagon?
They have dreams of their own. So If BO gets to be president. Kerry will be Secretary of State. Edwards will be Attorney General, Pelosi will be VP and Dean will be Speaker of the House. lol…
The others? they have their own long list of “It’s time to Pay me back” buddy.
So, I won’t be surprise if these many super delegates will jump to OB’s bandwagon.
I will be very shock however if these super delegates will decide to do the right thing and choose the stronger candidate which is Hillary against John McCain in November.
That will be the greatest honor to do in their part and will made us Americans very happy that there is a “conscience” in their being. And decided to do the choose the right decision.
I will vote for McCain in November and will not stay home to make my vote useless. My vote will make a difference.
Posted by: Philadelphia Experiment | May 28, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
mack,
“He also wants to give some of that money to Africa. He did pledge his allegiance to Africa after all.”
All the more reason for you to vote for Obama. We could all enjoy a little more money in our pockets (tax relief for the poor and middle). Maybe then we could afford to “go back to Africa” (just for a visit), like all the bigots have been calling for. It might even offset the influx of Indian travel in (as in IN-sourcing labor so that you can get a job — even w/o an education).
Obama ’08
Posted by: Big Mack | May 28, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Just say no to Hillary, you better check your facts again….the rate will start at $50,000.00! That is why every ecomomist says that Obama’s economic plan is a mistake in this economy! Check it out for yourself!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Molly said “A RE-VOTE would of solved all these problems from the past – BUT” Why should there be a re-vote? They broke the rules – TOO BAD. You don’t get a do-over. There is no reason they should get rewarded for breaking the rules. Those two states KNEW what the rules were & chose to break them anyway. All of the candidates AGREED to the punishment. Now, since Hillary isn’t getting HER way, she’s trying to redefine the process – much the same way Bill tried to redefine the word “is”. It just makes her look like an immature, whiny baby.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 28, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
The mantra of fear: $10 gas, 100 years in Iraq, dastardly supreme court judges, overturn Roe v. Wade. And all of that will be done in 4 horrible years. Democrats had a golden opportunity and they blew it once again. The party of losers.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
What do you all know about Obama? Have you read his books? Do you know the tactics he used to win his first election? Do you know how he won his senate seat? Do you know what his chief advisor Axelrod does for a living? Do you know the true nature of his association with Rezko and Ayers? Keep in mind what ever you don’t know about Obama the republicans do and will use everything they can against him. They know no boundaries and have no shame as we have seen in the past, Obama will not win in November. There is just to much that hasn’t been reported. When he looses be sure to blame the media they are the ones who turned him into the “rock star” and didn’t report the truth.
Posted by: maryintampa | May 28, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
The true colours of the “Hillary supporters” are coming out when they keep saying they want McCain to beat President Obama.
If Hillary won the nomination, no Obama supporter would even suggest hoping for a McCain win, and Hillary defeat.
Stop the calumnous attacks on Barack, you phony Democrats.
Posted by: Elric Torkelson | May 28, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Take it to the convention Hillary!
Posted by: Cindy | May 28, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
If The DNC Strictly Applies The Rules, Obama Will Lose
A strict interpretation of the DNC Rules that follows the reasoning of the DNC Memo circulated today would require the following results:
A. The stripping of 50% of the delegates of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Michigan.
B. The full seating of the Florida delegation.
C. Should the DNC RBC reject the safe harbor provision for Florida, then Florida would have 50% of its delegations stripped, but Barack Obama would be entitled to no delegates from Florida due to his violation of Rule 20c.1.b. .
By my math, a strict interpretation of the DNC rules would result in a net gain of 80 or 89 pledged delegates for Clinton.
Posted by: Emma | May 28, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Hillary running as an independent would definitely make this an interesting general election. I still think McCain would take it though.
Posted by: JA | May 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Mack,
The democrats have a nasty habit of blowing the elections that should be easy to win.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Good Post Marygrace…..way too go. You said it all. Thank you so much.
Posted by: Barb | May 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
“Politics as Usual” Blogger
This isn’t politics as usual. Not when the Obama camp alleges Hillary hoped Obama would be assassinated. This is wicked absurd politics, especially since we are suppose to be in the same party. How low can you go? No way,this is politics as usual; we’ve got lunatics on our hands. Everyone knows Reverend Wright is a lunatic. And to think Obama was a follower of his for twenty years.
There is no way we will ever let Obama become President.
Posted by: Bill | May 28, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Hillary would be stupid to run on the same ticket with Obama!! She would ruin her career..you sleep with dogs,you will get fleas..Obama being the dog!! He will be toast by the time the GE comes around! We Hillary supporters will shove it to him! Even if Hillary is on the ticket..we do not want Obama in the White House!! Obama said” America is a great country, together we can change it! What an oxymoron!!! Change it to what..?????
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
brian,
“Hope can sell. sure .. But more people are buying fear these days.. always have”
Not according to the popular vote. Obama has won with his message of hope. Ironically, his message of hope is about hope in one’s own abilities and the ability of everyone of us to move towards change for the better. It is truly disheartening to see so many people that have no faith in themselves — they oppose hope not just for our country, but for themselves, too.
They’ll come around once they spend their stimulus checks at Walmart and Walmart lays off their mother anyway.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Greeters Unite | May 28, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Simply put, Rendell is “A WOLF IN SHEEP SKIN”!!!
Posted by: E-Baker | May 28, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Bill, what a dolt!! Hillary did not say Obama would be assasinated!! What a jerk..that is some of the dumbest crap that you Obama keep repeating! And you people are allowed out without a leash!!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Emma, If the moon aligns and (in your hero’s words) celestial choirs descend, and the kennedy murder is solved, the burial site for jimmy Hoffa will be uncovered and beneath his carcass, Hillary will find the way to beat Obama, or not.
Posted by: Nestor in Miami | May 28, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
I love the way some say Obama took the nomination from Clinton. Like he stole it. I assure you he earned it and didnt expect it to be givin to him as the Clintons expected to win just because they are Clintons. You cant (well you can its a free country) preach about how experianced she is when an unknown Sen came out of no where and won more states, more votes and more delegates and all by following the rules. The only one wanting to break the rules is Hillary. Obama doesnt hound her on every slip of the tounge. Obama doesnt go after her for guilt by assosiation. He carrys himself as a leader. The media didnt pick on Hillary like some suggest. Hillary tried to slam Obama every chance she got. Bring the other guy down to make myself look good is her way of trying to win. Maybe people didnt vote for her because of her lying,
and self pitying and trying to change the rules she agreed on. Maybe because people are tired of a politician just saying what voters want to hear. We have heard it before.
And there were the scandals, His and Hers.
They are known, in brief, as: Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Whitewater, the White House travel office firings, White House coffees and Lincoln bedroom stays for donors, FBI background files on Republicans, missing documents and the presidential pardon of a fugitive friend.
The episodes involving women were his. Most of the others were theirs or hers.
And Bill wants to blow up in SD and cry that his wife is being disrespected. Coming from him!!
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
J, BTW, I am a McCain guy…
Posted by: Nestor in Miami | May 28, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Most of these people arent Hillary supporters, they are Republicians – IGNORE THEM
Posted by: Sarah-WI | May 28, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Obama would be stupid to run on the same ticket with Hillary!! We know he’s not stupid, so..He would ruin his career..you sleep with dogs,you will get fleas..Clinton being the dog (Monica et al)!!
It’s Obama for me!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Big Mack, I get the tenor of your message, although it doesn’t quite make sense.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Nestor in Miami,
By November I may be also!
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Oh, so now Obama is a Jew hater? His uncle liberated the Jews at a German labour camp called Buchenwald, in 1945. But let’s hide that fact, because it makes Barack look too good.
People just love to hate on Barack, but they are simply jealous their candidate can’t reach his surprising rise to greatness along the same lines as Abraham Lincoln, an unknown in 1859.
Just so you know I’m completely unbiased, I would welcome either a Hillary or Obama presidency, but that’s more than I could say of the pro Hillites who secretly want McCain if Obama is nominated.
Posted by: Elric Torkelson | May 28, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Imagine that all these Obama supporters, picked up by bus, taught how to fill out a voter registration form, paid street money, driven to the voter booth, taught how to vote, and all voting for Obama. Hillary should have thought of that..then they would all vote for Hillary! Money an buy you votes…like the pac money that Obama gave triple to the Super Delegates (fact) and his rich anti American friends funneling money to “streeter” to donate! Yup, politics Chicago style!!!
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Sarah-WI,
You’re right! I am a plant. It is my missiun to fulfill “operation chaos” on all the web boards. It is my “patriotic” duty to ensure that neither a woman nor a black man nor the democratic party wins the presidency.
My gig is up.
Posted by: micha6888 | May 28, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Hillary has two reasons to remain in this campagn, one to recoup the money she lent her campaign, 2nd, to help the GOP in obliterating Obama so she can run in 2012. She knows she is toast, and Obama, qualified as he may be (or whatever you may think) is still black, still has a muslim name, and did I mention he is still black? This country is not sophisticated enough to elect a black man not named powell. I hope McCain does a good job so that HRC has no chance against him in 2012.
Posted by: Nestor in Miami | May 28, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
We keep hearing this “put hillary on the ballot even if shes not nominated” It’s a wasted vote, all that ensures is you get a President you didn’t vote for and probably one that will work against the policies Hillary has apparantly worked for 30 years for. Hardly a fitting memorial to her. The alternative cry is “if not Hillary vote Mcsame” (personally I think the majority of this is Repub trouble makers) , where’s the logic in that? Again it simply ensures that everything she has worked for will either not come to pass or will be seriously delayed, until an other Democrat, NOT HILLARY THIS WAS HER SHOT,is in the whitehouse. BUT MCSAME HAS THE EXPERIENCE I hear you cry. To be fair so has dubya got experience, would you vote him in for another 4 years? I think not. Because that in effect is what you’re voting for another term of Republican bungling and mismanagement. Mcsame has the experience alright. He has the experience to overturn women’s rights issues that Hillary has worked to champion, he has the experience to continue this illegal, Immoral war for another 100 years, he has the experience to continue running up this CURRENTLY $3 TRILLION dollars of debt, he has the experience to allow the continued shipping of American jobs overseas, he has the experience to ignore the housing crisis and the banking crisis, he has the experience to continue to allow the pharmaceutical and medical companies to rape the American public and he has the experience to continue all the other policies of George W Bush that will mortgage the health and wealth of not only you, but your children and probably your childrens’ children. It’s not who has “experience” that counts it is what they can and will do with that experience. John Mcsame will continue America down the ruinous path that George W Bush has taken it. So it may take Obama a little longer to impliment his policies and to navigate his way through the corridors of Washington ( although I am mightily impressed with how he managed to outflank, outthink and outcampaign the “experienced” Clintons) but those policies are the very ones that Hillary has supposedly been fighting for all of her political life, they are the policies that strike a chord with all Democrats./////////////// Why would you vote for someone with “experience” if that person will use that experience to perpetuate the social and economic hardships that you find unbearable?
Posted by: vernonwerge | May 28, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Debra: We would be winning a war – in Afghanistan if we had finished off that one with the Taliban first and got Bin Laden. And, how come everybody seems to forget that the 911 terrorists were Saudis? Why didn’t we go to war with them? Oil, maybe? I want somebody who uses their brains and willing to pick everybody else’s brains first instead of threatening to nuke a country. Nuke Iran and Iraqi Shias will slaughter Americans. Shias are a large group in Pakistan that has nukes. Russia is in favor in the Mid-East and they have nukes. This is a new world. The bogged down mess in Iraq that was supposed to be over in two years is proof of that. I pray for our troops but they had no business being sent to Iraq until we had Afghanistan settled. Where are the WMD’s, the thousands of Iraqis falling into our arms? US news converage is limited to the postive for the most part. Most of them hate us. A good CEO picks the best brains for a team and does not play the great duo dictatorship as in Bush and Cheney. We have had over seven years of that. The best CEO’s are team players who cooperate – not compromise. HRC does not meet that criteria at all. This nearly 68 year old LOL does not want the Clinton duo anywhere near the White House again. This is America not a dynastical system because of a name. Some of us have learned that Hillary cannot lay out contingency plans as in after Big Tuesday and her campaign finances are deep in debt. Some leader of our economy and future goals. And, now would all of you phony HRC and/or Project Chaos supporters go help McCain since he may be having some problems. You did your best, but it will not work. Bye
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 28, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Emma:
They’re not going to STEAL the election from Obama – the one who WON by the rules.
Only way Hillaty wins is by making the entire primary process void. NO WAY that’s happening. Because there’s NO WAY Hillary could win if they did.
Quit kidding yourselves. She does not have anywhere close to the support you think she does.
Posted by: Nice Try Though | May 28, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Nice Try Though,
I guess those 17 million votes she got don’t mean anything. Then I guess the 17 million he got doesn’t mean anything either.
Posted by: J | May 28, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
The MSM are really bias.
They cut part of Mr Rendell’s conversation.
They did not show when Mr Rendell said Obama is a weaker candidate in the fall , instead they only showed ” SD are likely to continue to flock to Obama until he clinches the nomination”
Posted by: catleya | May 28, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
To all the fake Dems or people threatening to vote for McCain. Why dont you go blog on Fox. They care. I dont. The Rep. will have enough come to the Dem ticket this year and will make up for the loss.
Obama 08
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Elric Torkelson said, Obama’s uncle liberated the Jews at a German labour camp called Buchenwald, in 1945.
Well it’s beginning to look like Obama may have a major problem here. A website
called Noquarterusa.net has been investigating and finds that that may have been a lie. It will get interesting if the mainstream media outlets pick up on this.
Posted by: bb | May 28, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
People need to refrain from using Obama’s liberation story…there just is no proof and Obama has shown as of late, that he is not a great story teller.
Besides, what difference does it make? Many of us, including myself, have family that served in the military and have done honorable things, including sacrificing their own lives. To keep bringing it up just amplifies the reason Obama said it to begin with.
It should be quite obvious that he said the whole thing as a political move to attract Jewish voters. Is that wrong? Not necessarily…that is what politicians do…but does he have to make it SO obvious??
Obama lessens his credibility when he tells these stories inaccurately, or fails to check the facts first. He basically said the same thing in a 2002 speech. Didn’t he have enough time to check the facts then?
There is just too much going on with this man and I do not believe that the Dems are going to be able to convince enough people to vote for him.
I have pretty much always voted Dem in the Presidential elections, except once when I voted for a non-party candidate. I did not have faith in either party’s candidate. If Obama is the nominee, I cannot in good conscience vote for him as I do not believe that he will be an effective president as I do not trust his judgment. There is much to his past that cause people to be skeptical.
In this election, McCain will likely be the best choice. Some things are of greater importance than party loyalty.
People can spout off with anti-Hillary comments…the lame McSame nonsense and old jokes and go on about how Obama will “change the world” and the lowest of them all…you must not be able to vote for a BLACK man..But the reality is that there are too many people who feel as I do and the Dems will likely lose in November.
Posted by: Indie Here | May 28, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I love the fact that Obama is beating Clinton in every category including most states won, delegates, and yes popular vote (no matter what Clinton tries to say) and Obama is considered the weaker candidate. He is beating Clinton, so how is he weaker?????
Posted by: BK | May 28, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
John Pen – Clinton maybe could be McCain as long as he doesnt bring up the following-They are known, in brief, as: Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Whitewater, the White House travel office firings, White House coffees and Lincoln bedroom stays for donors, FBI background files on Republicans, missing documents and the presidential pardon of a fugitive friend.
The episodes involving women were his. Most of the others were theirs or hers.
Im sorry you mentioned Rev Wright? I doupt McCain will use that givin his own Paster issues.
Obama 08
Posted by: CW | May 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Obama is considering a trip to Iraq.
Now, I guess he wants to get some experience.
Posted by: Did you just hear? | May 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Stop The Obamanation: I have to agree with you. They are in for the surprise of their life. I’ve been a Democrat my entire life and often times said I would vote for a Republican over my dead body. Well, I hope I’m not dead by then, but I will vote for McCain.
Posted by: bedy | May 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
The mainstream media will never pickup anything on Obama. For whatever reason they will not report the truth about him. Remember Chris Mathews and his creepy I get a feeling down my leg when Obama speaks? Apparently they all feel this way. They pass everything off as a misspeak or taken out of context. I for one am tired of the “If you aren’t for Obama you are a racist”. I am neither. I am for the person with experience who knows what to do about the mess we are in.
Posted by: maryintampa | May 28, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
kerry: Again I will post. HRC wanted to allow only those who voted the first time to revote as in the Undecideds. People who knew the rules and thought their vote would not count and did not vote were to be excluded under the HRC demand. Now explain that rationale to me if she wants every American to have the right to vote. Its called either cherry-picking or downright cheating!
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 28, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
I’ve been reading these post for weeks and I find one thing constant…The Clinton supporters saying they will not vote for Obama. My question is why. Why would you not vote for a man who may win the democratic nomination fairly? He has played by the rules and deserves his victory. Why are some taking this as a direct assult against women? There are a lot of people in this country that need to admit to themselves that his race may be an issue for them. If you vote for McCain out of spite, then you deserve the next 4 to 8 horrible years to come. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face….
Posted by: Marie | May 28, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
The DNC and Democratic establishment forcing a very undemocratic process will lose lifelong Democratic members as we will be voting for McCain over Obama. At the very least, the Independent and Republican party stands for a one-person, one-vote primary.
Posted by: Erudite | May 28, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Look…
Sometimes they will delete information with a link…
I think..
Though they did remove a comment not long ago that I made to someone who kept going on and on about how hot McCains wife was…I simply replied that I thought she looked frail and plastic-y…
Posted by: Indie Here | May 28, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
i am a democrat and i will vote for mcCain come november if obama gets the nomination. i am either going to vote for mcCain or write-in hillary’s name,but i will not,will not vote for obama,he is not to be trusted.
Posted by: t4truth | May 28, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Marie:You asked why would you not vote for a man who may win the democratic nomination fairly?
As a Democrat, here is my answer. First I would say that the process was not fair. Over and over again I watched as states voted for Clinton, only to see their elected representatives ignore their constituents and vote Obama. Next, the media coverage has been one sided to the extreme. Finally, I could not vote for a presidential candidate who has made such bigoted remarks as white folks’ greed runs a world in need, my grandmother was a typical white person and white people are bred a certain way. Do you have a better understanding now?
Posted by: bedy | May 28, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The Obama Team has BEATEN the Clinton Machine!!! All you delustional false Hillary supporters can weep all day long!
Posted by: FrigidWeather | May 28, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
John Pen
I agree with you. This goes to what I said about what do you people know about Obama, which is virtually nothing. He has not been vetted and the republicans will crucify him. They will totally play on people’s fear.
Posted by: maryintampa | May 28, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Gov. Rendell is a true schmuck. There is nothing false about hope.
Posted by: w_roos | May 28, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
The Clinton supporters saying they will not vote for Obama. My question is why.
Posted by: Marie
BECAUSE THE CROOKED DEMOCRAT BOSSES AND MEDIA ARE FORCING OBAMA DOWN OUT THROATS.
REV. WRIGHT WILL BE A MAJOR CONCERN ABOUT OBAMA…ALSO OBAMA’S OTHER FRIENDS AND ADVISORS LIKE AYERS WHO BOMBED THE PENTAGON AND STATE BUILDINGS, AND REZKO AND HIS MIDDLE EAST TERRORIST MONEY CONNECTIONS, AND ODINGA WHO HAS PARTNERED WITH RADICAL MUSLIMS AND WANTS TO RULE KENYA BY VIOLENCE AND IS
OBAMA’S COUSIN…OBAMA WENT TO KENYA IN 2006 TO SUPPORT HIS COUSIN ODINGA.
AND OF COURSE THERE IS LOUIS FARRAKAN WHO HAS BEEN HONORED BY THE SAME
ANTI-WHITE CHURCH THAT OBAMA HAS ATTENDED FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
VOTE HILLARY SHE IS A REAL AMERICAN…SO IS MCCAIN….BUT NO OBAMA.
Posted by: John Pen | May 28, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Rendell just tells it like it is…as the Obama supporters keep saying…Quit the hating…lol
Posted by: Indie Here | May 28, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Hillary has more votes than Obama. Hillary should be the nominee. If the DNC is that stupid to give the nomination to Obama, then McCain wins.
Posted by: John W. | May 28, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
If you beleived in your country, would you give up information that would hurt your country?
I hope you answered, “NO! Of course not.”
What if you were being tortured? Would you give up that information?
Torture is a scary thing. What would you do? I hope that you would never give up what you hold close to your heart.
What a would war hero and Vietnam vet like John McCain do?
GOOGLE “Songbird McCain”
Posted by: TruthPrevails | May 28, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
I can never vote for a nominee that has endorsed, racism, hatred and anti-american feeling. Obama has endorsed Rev. Wright for 20 years, this is disgusting.
Posted by: martha S. | May 28, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
OK here is a question for everyone, doesnt matter who you support, but answer honestly.
If you worked for a company and had been there 10, 15, 20 years, always done a good job, never been late, all the signs of a good stable employee.
Then one day you had a new boss, and that boss fired you so he could hire his friends and family.
You go to a new company, show the same signs of a good employee, and as a benefit now you have a voice in the hiring of a new boss, In walks the boss that fired you from your last job, you can say yes or no, how would you choose?
Remember be honest.
Posted by: Common Sense | May 28, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
What do you think of Cindy McCain?
GOOGLE “Cindy McCain Drugs” to learn about her opiate addiction. Be safe out there everyone.
Posted by: lisa m threson | May 28, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Obama, the affirmative action nominee, has visited 57 states with a few to go. Does he know waht country he is in?
Posted by: Atisha | May 28, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Lisa
What about Obama’s crack/cocaine use? He is the one running for President not Cindy McCain.
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Lisa
What about Obama’s crack/cocaine use? He is the one running for President not Cindy McCain.
Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Obama makes Bush look good. This will be the first time I voted republican, since Regan.
Posted by: Charles G. | May 28, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
It’s a pity the good ole boys (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, etc.) are propping up such a weak candidate like Obama and blocked Hillary from winning the nomination. I remember 4 years ago Kennedy pushed for Kerry (over Edwards) and Kerry got the nomination because Kennedy gets what he wants, and he wanted Kerry and Kerry lost in the general election. The party should allow the people to choose the nominee, not the good ole boys, such as Kennedy, who are shoving Obama down our throats. If the people were allowed to choose and the good ole boys stop cheating Hillary out of the nomination, Hillary would be the stronger candidate and would defeat McCain.
Posted by: Syofie | May 28, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I consider myself an Independent. But one thing I know is…there’s no way in heck Im voting for a Republican after the crazy mess they’ve made of our country and economy. I was so shocked that Bush made it to a 2nd term…Not gonna happen again…not this time!!
Posted by: A2daC | May 28, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Rendell: “I don’t think the DNC is going to fairly adjust what happened in Florida. . . . I don’t think they’re going to fairly adjust it.
In Clintonspeak “fairly”=”in my favor”…
Posted by: toroid | May 28, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I am sick and tired of the way Obama and his hatred mongers have treated Hillary. This last one on the Kennedy assasination is the straw that breaks the back. I will not vote Democratic this year unless Hillary is on the ticket as Pres or VP. I have decided to vote for Libertarian Party. The entire party system in USA is totally corrupt. Voting Libertarian is the way to send a shot across the bow. I am sick and tired of the hatred from the Obama people on this blog. Hillary is a wonderful person. Obama is a Chicago Snake in the grass. Corrupt to the core. The actions of the Democratic Party show a total lack of honesty toward women. The hatred for women is disgusting and I will not support such hatred. Democrat No More. Libertarian in the Future. GO HILLARY GO. NEVER GIVE UP…………..
Posted by: DemocratForever | May 28, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
While Obama was snorting coke and smoking weed, Hillary and McCain were actually doing something positive for the country. Not putting money in the pockets of the drug cartels.
Posted by: Mack | May 28, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
The democratic party, if they nominate Obama, will let the minority pick the nominee. Hillary won the votes, Obama, cheated with the delegate process. It seems like the dems want the republicans to win.
Posted by: dalton | May 28, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
John Pen
I agree with you. This goes to what I said about what do you people know about Obama, which is virtually nothing. He has not been vetted and the republicans will crucify him. They will totally play on people’s fear.
Posted by: maryintampa
I AGREE WITH YOU. OBAMA’S SPEECHWRITER GIVES HIM A WORDS TO REPEAT AND ALL THE OBAMA ZOMBIES CALL HIM ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
THEY DON’T KNOW OR DON’T CARE THAT HAS AN UNBELEIVABLE AMOUNT OF RED FLAGS BLARING ABOUT HIS BELIEFS AND ANTI-AMERICAN FRIENDS AND SPIRITUAL ADVISORS.
NO OTHER CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY HAS HAD THIS MANY EXTREMELY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HIS BELIEFS, CHARACTER AND MOTIVES….NOT TO MENTION INEXPERIENCE.
HILLARY AND MCCAIN MAY HAVE THEIR FAULTS BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW THEY ARE REAL AMERICANS.
Posted by: John Pen | May 28, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I will never vote for a crackhead, drunk that attended a hate mongering, racist, anti-american church for 21 years.
Posted by: George | May 28, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
http://www.unheardamericanvoices.com/
One of the best vids about what happens when a “change” candidate is the nominee..
I especially like the Dean clips at the beginning and the Groundhog day ones at the end :-)
Posted by: Indie Here | May 28, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
the difference between obama and hillary is a difference between knowledge and ignorance..
in this election america have a choice between a smart, educated (HARVARD GRAD.), charismatic, and realistic candidate…
and a dishonest, vicious, decieveful, and delusional candidate…
and american have already decided and siad it loud and clear.. it is time for change..
go OBAMA 08,
Posted by: mohsin | May 28, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
It’s a pity the good ole boys (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, etc.) are propping up such a weak candidate like Obama and blocked Hillary from winning the nomination. I remember 4 years ago Kennedy pushed for Kerry (over Edwards) and Kerry got the nomination because Kennedy gets what he wants, and he wanted Kerry and Kerry lost in the general election. The party should allow the people to choose the nominee, not the good ole boys, such as Kennedy, who are shoving Obama down our throats. If the people were allowed to choose and the good ole boys stop cheating Hillary out of the nomination, Hillary would be the stronger candidate and would defeat McCain.
Posted by: Syofie
YOU ARE RIGHT.
Posted by: John Pen | May 28, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
I just hope Hillary Clinton runs as an independent candidate this year. I really hope she announces that by tomorrow morning. Best thing that could happen to the Democratic party is to rid itself of traitors/losers. Besides, Hillz would then cut into her best friend McCain’s votes.
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Hope | May 28, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Dalton, what are you talking about?
(1) There was and is an established process for selecting the nominee.
(2) Both Hillary and Obama agreed that the delegates from Florida and Michigan would not count.
(3) Obama is clearly winning in the established process.
So now is it time for Hillary to CHEAT and Dalton to cheer her on? Don’t you people get it? We have to live by rules, don’t we? Or should we just change the rules whenever they are in our favor? What is this country, a banana republic?
Please be Sane and Rational and rally behind the winner of the established nominating process. And I say this as someone who didn’t have a particular preference early in the campaign and probably leaned Hillary.
Posted by: Michael | May 28, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
John Pen,
You are Great! Tell it like it.
A vote for Obama is a vote against America!
Posted by: Bill | May 28, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
The plate remains vacant for the one to move mountains and institute fundamental change. This nation has heard the high road promise, and we are ready to believe that the person to bring to full glory the noble visions of Dr. King has come.
Alas, the one does not speak from the pulpit, he speaks from the political platform. The implication is that he seeks the personal glory coming from the president’s office, not his stated quest to unite, to help bring food for the hungry, to bring more books and funds to the ignorant and to the needy, to provide more jobs to those who seek work. Heaven seems to be the path of his vision, yet good intentions have paved the way to hell.
His programs of government are only one of the many options of governance, not glorious goals as he wants to portray. In an election year for one who wants the presidency, the promise for fundamental change can only lead this country to unfulfilled hopes. The hoodwink may not seem obvious to uninitiated, hopeful constituents, but the deepest craving is for his own meeting with destiny, not the true creation of the real, pure destiny to greatness.
He has formed expectant hopes in millions of hearts. I myself will follow him with unadulterated loyalty, if he now forsakes his unholy greed for the presidency covered in hopeless promise for fundamental change..
He will truly be in the right path to greatness, to unconditional service to his fellowmen, to unquestionable love and honor from everyone, if he can now divorce himself from that glorified quest for the presidency and lead the young, the educated, and the minority groups to his dream, to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr’s visions.
The time has come for his own personal defining moment. The corpus to move this country forward just requires him to declare his independence from political dirty webs. His following is great in numbers, he called himself the noble precursor of great future, and he all he needs to do is to prove.
This road that is now ready for the taking, if he chooses to ignore and continue to seek for his own glorification, may never come again in this format. The matrix is ripe for the taking, of this fruit that is largely of his own making.
Posted by: chris | May 28, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Hillary has more votes tha Obama, she should have more delegates. This seems to be a “scam” in the DNC. The republicans have a good system to nominate, maybe the democrats could learn a lesson.
Posted by: Sylvia B. | May 28, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
A vote for McCain is a vote for more spending which leads to more economic hardship. This is truly sad.
Posted by: Luke | May 28, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
More spending Luke…how so? Do enlighten us please.
First off…you can’t claim it to be the war. Even Obama is now saying that it would take approx. 5 years before we are out of there…did you not hear that one?
McCain will not sign any bill with pork
Obama has billions in new social programs and taxing the rich will not help…there has to be balance and his plans go WAY overboard..
But I am always willing to listen…
Posted by: kim | May 28, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Michael…
Obama didn’t keep his word on the agreement. He ran ads in MI and FL. Obama’s cult followers cheated in most caucus states, by causing a near riot situation. There has been numerous police reports regarding these situations. In Florida , Obama’s name is mud. Florida will be republican in November.
Posted by: John W. in FL | May 28, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
no name…tell us something that we don’t know already..
Posted by: memyselfandI | May 28, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
SO MICHELLE OBAMA SAID SHE WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY IF HILLARY GOT THE NOMINATION,WELL HER AND HER HUSBAND GOT ALOT IN COMMON,HE DOESN’T VOTE IN THE SENATE AND SHE DOESN’T VOTE IN GENERAL ELECTIONS.NOT A COUPLE I WOULD WANT AS PRES AND FIRST LADY.BY THE WAY MICHELLE,DO YOU GO TO THE DENTIST,YOUR MOUTH IS F—– UP.
Posted by: t4truth | May 28, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Elections have always been about voting according to rules laid out ahead of the contest, and then translating the direct, or popular, vote into delegates to apportion representation representatively. Then the candidate who “Wins” the most delegates accordingly, becomes the Winner of the election. Senator Obama has run his campaign according to the rules; he has won the most delegates apportioned by popular vote, and he would normally be the winner of the election, but for one thing…he’s running against a white woman of wealth, status, and privilege. How dare he “win” this election! This “election” is over, but the winner can not claim victory, because this is the Democratic Party, and they don’t have the courage to govern. If they did, they would be standing up with one voice to support the nominee, chosen by the people, according to the rules. Instead of playing the silly Clinton game, why can’t the party simply put a stop to this nonsense, instead of feeding it and feuling it–against all criteria of fair play. They are letting the Clintons, once again, make a mockery of the party, and a charade of public service. Sad, disgraceful, and tragic.
Posted by: Justinteim | May 28, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Emma: Wrong. Obama checked with the DNC before he ran ads and they approved it. Go check.
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 28, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Please, Hillary run on the independent ticket. There are 50.1% of the democrats and a large section of the republicans waiting to vote for you. We need an independent president. Obama would be a distant third, with the black and mentally challanged voters.
Posted by: steve | May 28, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Steve:
I’d vote for Hillary, in a heartbeat. I can’t stand that empty suit and McBush.
Posted by: Chuck | May 28, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
All -
Don’t forget that Obama typically did much stronger in states with open primaries. I believe that proves he actually is the stronger cadidate for the GE. And, don’t underestimate the strong dislike that exists for Hillary outside the Dem walls. Personally, it’s ABC (any but Clinton) for this guy. I have been impressed with Obama’s style, and will have a tough decision between him and McCain in the GE. McCain impresses me because of his undeniable loyalty and honor, and because he really is not a Bushie but rather (until the primary hype) has long been known as a maverick in the GOP. If it’s Obama and McCain for the GE, I think the U.S. stands to win either way — for different reasons.
Posted by: Scott | May 28, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Hello to all my people in PA. Hello Tracy, Rose, Bob, Mike and all the people at UPMC. I can easily say that Rendell chose badly for all of you. Here he is acknowledging what we knew months ago. We have work to do PA, let us get all the democrats to unite, there were too much division, even among family. PA Democrats, let bygones be bygones and let us unite to bring our children home. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 28, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
I am a moderate Republican and can tell you that a great many Republican voters will vote for Senator Obama come November. Republicans hate and detest the Clintons and if she got the nomination, there is no way she could win. The Republicans would come together and every scrap of dirt would be revived. I understand a film has already been produced about Hillary by a Citizens group proving her past dubious dealings, the cover-ups, the lies. Why anyone would want to see this woman President beats me…she has no diplomacy skills and speaks without thinking. Let’s give Senator Obama a chance; in with the new, out with the old!
Posted by: Rita M. | May 28, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Clinton/Rendell is the winning ticket. The Obama/Wright ticket is D.O.A. in november.
Posted by: George W. | May 28, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I’m beginning to wish I had tickets to the convention in Denver…it should be a real spectacle, with all the ‘strong’ men and women of the Democratic Party showing us how they can lead this nation.
Posted by: jggrimm | May 28, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Rita is a FRAUD…just like Obama..
No Republican in their right mind would vote for an ultra left wing candidate like Obama…who wants to raise taxes and open the door to more socialism…
Get real…Republicans will rally around McCain..just to keep Obama out..
Posted by: Independent Voter | May 28, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
It’s really disheartening to hear that the Governor of Pennsylvania does not believe that Hillary would not win the Democratic nomination. Let us wait and see how it plays out.
Posted by: Kris | May 28, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
@Steve,
I’d vote for Hillary in a “hot” Atlanta minute. Rev. Wright, for the republicans, is the gift that keeps on giving. Obama, will never rid himself of his uncle, pastor, family member, and spiritual advisor of 20 years.
Posted by: Bob in FL | May 28, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
The Rule of Law governs this country in all areas. That includes HRC who signed off as well on the Florida and Michigan issue. You all trying to say that someone twisted her arm or forged her signature? Ickes was the one who pushed for 100% disenfranchisement and got his way. Why aren’t you mad at him since he is an HRC campaign staffer? Why didn’t voters in those two States stage all of their protests last August 2007? Evan Thomas: Hold up there! A lot of us older folk are with you to restore dignity, integrity, respect and real strength to the US after cleaning up the mess. No more White House scandals, making deals with Dubai to control our ports, etc. and general distaste with the HRC campaign after raising kids to not cheat or change rules in the middle of a game when losing. The Obama LOL Brigade may not always be quite as emotional but we are a force to be reckoned with.
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 28, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
STEVE:
There is discontent in the republican party, with McCain. Many republicans have indicated they would rather vote Hillary, than McCain. Thirty to forty per-cent of republicans and about half of the democrats would vote for Clinton. Hillary could be the first independent president in modern day, the numbers are there. H.Ross Perot would be proud…
Posted by: paul | May 28, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
The Dems are going to nominate the “weaker candidate”? Really?
If she couldn’t beat a first term senator with little name recognition and the middle name Hussein, how in the world does she expect to beat a war hero?
Posted by: Paige | May 28, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Paul:
The democrats need a nominee that can win. Obama can’t win with the black vote, only. I never thought of Hillary as an independent, but I would vote for her!
Posted by: Milton | May 28, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
The democratic convention is in August. Obama may have another Rev. Wright adventure. The Rev. may drop a dime on the empty suit, Obama . Hello Hillary!!
Posted by: Martha in Orange Park | May 28, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
How the DNC can solve this…
Clinton can have FL and MI on Sat. while she squeeks out a win in PR. Tuesday Obama will make up any delegates she is awarded, by winning in the 2 primaries,wednesday (after every vote is counted) the supers do there job, ie., “save the dem party” by raining down on Obama. This thing is ended, first week of June with no disenfranchised voters and no need to take it to the floor in Denver.
Hillary joins Obama ‘cabinet’ as surgeon general to advance health care.
Obama 08&12
Posted by: oldwhiteguy | May 28, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Hillary could win as an independant!
Posted by: bill | May 28, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Somebody stated that some republicans would support Hillary over McCain?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THIS FROM?
I know quite a few repubs. and listen to the conservative talk shows often, and can tell you that republicans absolutely DETEST the Clinton name.
Are you people researching this stuff, or just saying ANYTHING ?!?!?!?!
Posted by: AutoCadSkills | May 28, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
@Lake Hart – A Native American Writer
I am native american – Rendell has great judgement. Obama can’t get the nomination until 8/26/08, the same as Hillary. Obama is a hypocrite, empty suit and liar. If you read his history, he is one of the dirtiest politicians to crawl out of Illinois.
Posted by: leon | May 28, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
If Hillary is cheated out of the nomination, I will never vote democrat, again !!!!!
Posted by: paul in fl. | May 28, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
autocad-there are a few die hard Hillary supporters, mostly from a Hillary is 44 WEB site that are posting this type of nonsense and disinformation to “scare” people into buyer’s remorse for Obama. They have been hitting numerous BLOGS and the pattern is disheartening for the Democratic party endgame. I do not understand the logic. It’s quite sad.
Posted by: Paige | May 28, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I am so glad I don’t live in PA anymore. This guys is nothing but an ARSE!
Posted by: Dave. San Diego, CA | May 28, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Clinton has the most votes, she should be the nominee. I guess the democrats are giving the nomination to an affirmative action candidate. I will never vote for this fake, Obama.
Posted by: Charles in Jacksonville | May 28, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Cheated? how has she been cheated out of the nomination? please do tell.
Posted by: Common Sense | May 28, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Why do so many people have to watch Hillary’s back? Have not heard anybody say that about McCain or Obama – in alphabetical order. Or did I misread? A lot of women where I work have turned their back on HRC because of her campaign tactics – so much blame on everbody or everything else. She was the name candidate, with the most money, the most experienced campaign machine but did not have one single contingency plan in place for after Big Tuesday and is deep in debt. That is not Presidential material. Bush and HRC have that in common – debt! The blatant ractists are certainly out in force tonight – must be part of pill addict Rush Limbaugh’s group or the sorry sight of the underbelly of the Ugly American. 50 States with Texas Two-Step makes 51, plus 6 territories equals 57. Obama can count. HRC math is unusual to say the least. And, strange that no US media has yet mentioned a trial that has now started up in California about Peter Paul and WJC.
Posted by: KiwiTricia | May 28, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
What a useful argument to help unify the dems!
Clinton’s raw ambition has made the dems more divisive than ever!
Posted by: Whose Real Dem | May 28, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
@Winner, I do hope you realize the link you just posted shows them BOTH beating McCain in the same states and in alot of them Obama beats McCain by a larger margin than Clinton does, and some of those are way out of date especially since some of those states have repolled and Obama now beats Clinton.
Posted by: Common Sense | May 28, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Paige:
Obama has about 175 paid bloggers. Hillary has none.
Posted by: Jill | May 28, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
DON’T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn’t it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children’s suffering.
With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.
The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton’s do very well.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party’s back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.
You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don’t let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.
And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”
Posted by: jacksmith | May 28, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
@Lake Hart – A Native American Writer,
Richardson wants the VP spot. He turnd his back on his friends for this…
Posted by: leon | May 28, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Obama and Reverend Wright are the one’s who the racist. And were not going to take it anymore.
Posted by: JackL | May 28, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Jill-I never said anything about “paid” bloggers and whether Obama has paid bloggers is irrelevant to what I posted.
Posted by: Paige | May 28, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
OMG, I thought children were bad, Its my ball if you dont play by my rules i will take my ball and go home!!! Some of the adults here are just as bad, Its my vote if my candidate doesnt win i will take my vote and go home!!!! GEESH GROW UP ALREADY
Posted by: Common Sense | May 28, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
BMR,you must understand that jacksmith is not using regular math he is using the NEW Hillary math, not everyone quite understands it yet, but we are trying.
Posted by: Common Sense | May 28, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Here we are at the playoffs for the SuperBowl. Barack has a one point lead and has the ball within 10 yards of another touchdown. With only 30 seconds left he will probably just eat up the clock in the next couple plays. But wait Hillary is arguing with an official that even if Barack has more points, her team has gained the most yards and should be declared the winner. Now she is arguing her team did better in the big area in the middle of the field. Now Bill is on the field arguing with another official saying sportswriters say Hillaries team has a better chance of winning in the SuperBowl against McCain’s team. If the officials let Barack win and advance to the SuperBowl, McCain’s team will tear his team apart. Official are now in a huddle on the sidelines trying to decide how the determine the winner. Will it be points, who gains the most yards, who does well in the large middle section of the field, or base it on what sportswriters are saying would be the best match up in the Super Bowl. We will have to wait to hear what they decide.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | May 28, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
I love the flag pin joke. It really reduces this campaign down to the nitty gritty. Somewhere in that statement, however, the symbol represents deep misgivings by some. A lack of confidence in the candidate?
Posted by: georgia | May 29, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
thanks MikeMo1947
…thats some pretty tight game uh
… I want to hear what Hillary is doing to the ref…oh and what is Bill doing to the cheerleaders OMG such disrespectful behaviour….LOL
Posted by: coach | May 29, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
One thing is for sure: The DNC is going to be riveting this year. If I sit too close to the TV I might get blood on my shoes.
In a way, I pity the Democratic party a bit. They really are throwing away the most golden of opportunities. Here they are, poised to steal legions of swing voters and actually convert many of them permanently if they were to play their cards right.
Instead, bickering, baiting and backstabbing are sabotaging it all. It might very well be true that Hillary is actually the candidate with the best shot at defeating McCain (and I believe she is myself). But reality is reality. And reality demands that she concede defeat and join with him.
Capturing the White House for the party is of primary importance. If she goes in as VP, I think she’ll unhorse Obama 4 years later and there will be much less of a contest. Meanwhile much can get done with Congress and the White House in lock step with each other.
Health care reform, anyone? Greater good, anyone?
Stop this petty powerbrokering and wise up.
Posted by: Chris | May 29, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
I have done a lot of research into the math of this election process. I think Barack Obama has used the oldest of the old political shenanigans to gain an illicit advantage by cheating in the caucus states.
http://www.Hillary-Wins.com
http://www.CaucusCheating.com
http://www.Florida-Michigan.com
Posted by: Alessandro Machi | May 29, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
The only reason there was not a revote in both states is because HRC would not let there be a real revote .She only wanted to let people who had not voted vote.In a revote everybody should have been able to vote and the old jan votes thrown out
Posted by: jojobo1 | May 29, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
I can’t believe Rendell thinks the DNC will make the wrong choice by not choosing Hillary Clinton. Also, I can’t believe that Hillary has the attitude that, “I couldn’t win the nomination fairly, so just give it to me because I’m Hillary Clinton.” She is a liar and a cheat. It’s unethical to think that the super delegates should give the nomination to her because she and her camp says,”I’m more electable.” The majority of Democratic voters have not said she’s more electable. She says she’s more electable. Her campaigning has really revealed her real character. This woman thinks that she is so invincible that she can override or change the rules of the DNC. All along she has been doing fuzzy math relative to Florida and Michigan. She knew the DNC rules because the Presidential candidates had to sign an agreement. It doesn’t matter to her that these states broke the DNC rules. She had ulterior motives from the jump because she put her name on the ballots despite the DNC rules. I can imagine the DNC doing anyting to favor her. As a matter of fact she should be penalized for having her name on the ballots when she knew the rules. This woman does not believe in rules,”just do whatever is advantageous to me.” She doesn’t care if Obama has won the nomination, “Just give it to me because I don’t care about anybody else.” I don’t think this is the kind of presient our country needs. The woman is dangerous! She needs a mental evaluation…and so does Rendell.
Posted by: JS | May 29, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
It is a matter of simple logic. Hillary could not run her own family, and keep Bill in check, hence the Monica scandal, how can she run the United States and lead the world!?
Posted by: AC | May 29, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
“Americans don’t have to see McCain wear a flag pin…we know which country he loves above all others and the torture he endured as a POW…get real.”
________________________________________
I love statements like these. John McCain layed around in a bed with white sheets while his cohorts rotted in tiger cages submerged in water up to their necks. He’s no better than Jane Fonda and we all know how the right wing loves to bash her. John McCain received special treatment because of who he was and who is daddy was. The man is a fraud and a fake.
This entire flag pin thing is a farce. I personally don’t find anything patriotic about sending people to die in a useless war for oil (for what good that has done, we can’t even protect an oil pipeline let alone a nation of people). I have to chuckle when the guy who doesn’t wear one is anti-american yet the man you support, who doesn’t wear one, is a great american. Do any of you see the double standard here? Are republican supporters really that stupid?
Posted by: dk | May 29, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
swift boat rhetoric!!!! to say MCcain got secial treatment and to belittle his service is the most disgracefull thing I have seen in an election season filled to the brimm with the absolute worst we can muster as a nation. In the words of the 68 convention the whole world is watching. John Mccain, who by the way served this great land. He did not hide in daddy’s pocket, he did not hide behind scholorships, he was shot out of the sky in a jet.Crashed into the ground breaking his legs, he spent years living in conditions even the worst pontificators of the wretched lot of you could ever imagine. He was badly injured. He was tortured. He never betrayed his comrades or his nation. and when he was offered a release as a gesture of good will on the part of north Vietnam, he recognized how the status of his father would make him look. He told them to send someone else in his place. I dont know or care where you all hail from but in this day of gutless power hungry narcasists he remains the only man with maybe the only qualification for the job. Courage. if you were not in that Hanoi Pit of Hell then you dont know and should shut up
Posted by: Son of the American revolution | May 29, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
It is hard to prove you are electable when you can not win the primary? There is a big difference between the way the Dem nomination is given to a candidate and the way electoral votes are given in November. Kerry won the nomination, but lost the electoral votes just like Obama is going to lose. There are not enough states with condensed black voters to give Obama the electoral votes necessary to take the White House. I am a Hillary supporter and if there were a Hillary/Obama supporter I would vote Dem, but even if Hillary were on Obama’s ticket I will still vote for McCain. I do not trust Obama to be president.
Posted by: tiredofit | May 29, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
You cant question McCain’s patriotism? Just like u cant question his preachers correct? Serving in the military and being a republican church goer doesnt give u a free pass on patriotism and paster problems !
Posted by: enaudnella | May 29, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
Markos,
Well said.
It’s good to know there are still people who continue to stick to their commonsense no matter what.
Posted by: Commonsense | May 29, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am
JS said “I can’t believe Rendell thinks the DNC will make the wrong choice by not choosing Hillary Clinton” – I can believe it – because Eddie-boy is just as conniving & disgusting as Hillary.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 29, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
dalton – Maybe you need a civics lesson. We don’t elect presidents by “popular” vote. We do it with delegates & the electoral college. It’s worked for over 200 years and it will continue to work.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 29, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am
No Justice No Unity. Count Every Vote! Seat Every State Completely!
Posted by: America First | May 29, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
The electoral college works? Are you kidding me? The system is archaic. It gives the voters in smaller states a larger voice. Funny, last time I looked I thought our votes were supposed to be equal. Why is it every single elected official in this country is elected by popular vote except the president? We don’t have some delegate system in our states based on county votes. Why should we have one based on states? Our system is ridiculous and backwards. It may have been fitting for a developing country but it’s gone by the wayside and needs to be changed.
Posted by: dk | May 29, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
Markos…..your sexist remarks are exactly what will kill Obama’s election. If you have never been in relationship with a women (and it appears you have not) you never, ever say to a women she cannot do something just because she is a women.
The women voting block of this country is just as valuable to any candidate and don’t forget, they vote.
While I agree Clinton will not get the nomination, I also agree Obama is the weaker candidate. You are probably saying I want McCain then but, that would be also far from the truth.
Having seen the corruptness of our elections in this country, I believe our only hope is to start a third party and this can be accomplished by REGISTERING INDEPENDENT!
Posted by: '68 VNvet | May 29, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
I wish this thing was over already. Everyone knows you can’t trust a Clinton.
Posted by: GetaLife | May 29, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
Always impressive to see people voting on hatred instead of information. All I see are really crazy anti-clinton comments basically shes evil and her voters are ignorant uneducated white people (scum). What makes their votes any less than anybody elses? Seems discrimination goes both ways, no?
Good luck in the future Americans with your glamour politics.
Posted by: dave | May 29, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am
If Clinton or Obama wanted the MI and FL votes to stand, why didn’t they say that back in January when it would have made more sense ?
Posted by: GetaLife | May 29, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am
If they do count those votes, it would only be fair to have a re-vote in MI since both canidates were not on the ballot.
Posted by: GetaLife | May 29, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Why can’t we stick closer to the issue of the article and not post Pro-Obama or Pro-Hillary stuff in comments. It gets old very fast.
Posted by: GetaLife | May 29, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Obama lost in both states already, what does he have to lose by re-voting ?
Posted by: GetaLife | May 29, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
The “weaker” candidate? Oh, Gov Rendell – that’s really great! Put it into all the “weaker” minds in this country that Obama is weaker than Clinton. That will really help in November – oh yeah. You idiot
Posted by: Bob | May 29, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Hillary, herself voting on stripping the delegates in Florida and Mich. Changing the rules would be just like stuffing a ballot!If the DNC allows this change to happen for Hillary, then how can we trust are voting System?
Posted by: Demo Rules | May 29, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
We really haven’t been able to trust our voting system for a long time now. Just look at the sham called the “Electoral College”. (Should be the “Electoral Kindergarden” )
Posted by: GetaLife | May 29, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Ed Rendell’s endorsement of Sen. Clinton was meaningless… PA was leaning towards Clinton anyway. Funny how her numbers fell after his endorsement… Certainly, Rendell was expecting a cabinet post… now, with an Obama presidency (and, yes, it will happen), old Ed can finish out his term and governor and fade away… maybe take a cushy job with that Spanish company that’s ‘buying’ the PA Turnpike?
Posted by: Great Caesar's Ghost | May 29, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
the day hillary concedes (and i hope she doesn’t and takes this to the floor to fight) – as a lifelong democrat – i will leave the party, become a republican and vote for mccain.
i can’t stand obama and will not vote for him.
Posted by: Ellen | May 29, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I don’t understand all this hatred towards Obama. He didn’t do anything to Hillary. He is winning fair and square. Women, why vote for a Republican? When you vote republican, you vote against your economic interest? Hillary and Barrack have both voted the same way in Congress with the exception of the Iraq war. Hillary and Barrack are very similar in their stance on the issues.
McCain is not a good choice for pres. We are already struggling financially so what is McCain going to do to fix the economy? McCain will continue all the same failed Bush policies.
This is just so stupid. Hillary lost this race because she ignored the caucus states. She spent too much money in Iowa and Nevada and went bankrupt. Hillary’s camp was sloppy, thinking that there was no way she could lose.
Obama’s message of not taking money from Lobbyists and special interest groups made him popular with the independent voters in the West. Hillary should have noticed Obama. Really I believe that Hillary took Obama for granted because she didn’t think that white voters would vote for a Bi-Racial candidate.
I was a Hillary supporter, but I’m sorry she got beat fair and square. There’s no need to be mad at Obama.
I refuse to vote against my economic interest and let McCain send our jobs overseas, continue a failed Iraq war, and destroy our economy.
Posted by: Candy | May 29, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Hillary Clinton will only accept every vote counting in Michigan and Florida. There is no doubt this is going to the convention floor. The predictions are that when this comes out a number superdelegates will come out of the woodwork for Obama. That will make an impression on the last uncommitted delegates and then they will flow toward Obama.
The problem with this theory is, these superdelegates have all already made up their mind. They are very strong minded, after all, they haven’t let anyone push them around yet. I truly believe the majority of these superdelegates are Hillary supporters. Another thing to consider is many of superdelegates who initially committed to Obama did this before Reverend Wright.
Hang in there Clinton supporters were going to the convention floor! Hillary will win!
Posted by: MRogers | May 29, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
MRogers ========================
People like you need a reality check or some medication.
In case you don’t know, the republican nominee is JOHN MCCAIN. Not Huckabee or Romney.
Posted by: Commonsense | May 29, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Candy, no one is buying your act. We know an Obama supporter when we see one. You Obama supporters are funny.
Posted by: george | May 29, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Hillary Supporters ===================
Go ahead and vote your anger. Vote against Obama because you hate him for no reason.
Your votes will come back and haunt you.
The republicans are laughing at your foolishness and waiting.
Posted by: Commonsense | May 29, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Peace, McCain is a bonafide war hero. He can be given a free pass if he doesn’t wear a flag pin. Unlike your empty suit, Obama, who has to embellish his thin resume.
Posted by: Pam | May 29, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Sean wrote: This is pathetic. Can you say, “sour grapes”? How strong could Hillary be against McCain if she can’t even win her own primary? What party does Ed Rendell claim to be a part of, the Hillary party? Sorry, Mr. Rendell, but the Hillary party is just about over. Some people just don’t know when to leave a party.
Well I know when to leave a party. You leave it when the weakest candidate is selected. When the most questionable candidate is selected. That’s my plan.
Posted by: alleyoopvolley | May 29, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Obama was the weakest candidate on Dec 2007 but came ahead of Hillary in the primary. He will have the nomination in Jesus’s name. She is not the strongest candidate in the Democratic primary how can she be in the general election….please stop that nonsense. She blames the caucuses for lagging behind, blamed sexism and now wants to blame the DNC rule she signed…..
Go Obama at least you have shown the Clinton that “talk is cheap”
Posted by: Armani, NYC | May 29, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
I voted for Hillary in this election. I thought her experience would carry her. But I am not stupid. I won’t vote for McCain because the republicans have torn this country apart.
Hillary is losing fair and square. She didn’t get enough delegates. I just have to be honest with myself about this. So I am going to close my eyes vote for the Big D on the ticket and it doesn’t matter to me who he or she is.
Posted by: Candy | May 29, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Hillary ran against Obama’s most powerful surrogate, the Obama media. Except for FOX, they are all pro-Obama.
The only reason they finally reported on Rev. Wright was because they had no choice, the internet and talk radio was inundated with Rev. Wright after the tape was released.
Hillary should be the nominee. She is the stronger candidate. Not surprising that the dems once again want to pick the weakest candidate.
Posted by: Pam | May 29, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
IF HILLARY SUPPORTES CLAIM THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN AND MAKE HIM THE NEXT PRESIDENT IF SHE DOESN’T GET THE NOMINATION ….. GUESS WHAT DO YOU THINK OBAMA SUPPORTERS WILL VOTE FOR HER COME 2012 IF SHE WANTS TO RUN!!!! DO YOU THINK SHE WILL WIN THE NOMINATION!!!
I VOTED FOR HILLARY IN VIRGINIA MY LOYALTY IS TO MY PARTY THAT I BELIEVE NOT REPUBLICANS!!! WAKE UP!!!
Posted by: YYBJ | May 29, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
carolyn
“Republicans and Independents are supporting Barack Obama in unprecedented numbers”
Over 17,000,000 people are still behind Hillary! Just shut your mouth and wait for all the votes counted!
We hope Hillary will run as Independent and your candidate will have no chance whatsoever in November! I have always voted for Democrat. However, this party can no longer be trusted if they are willing to promote someone likes Obama, who seems to be popular on the surface but shallow within!
Posted by: Jane | May 29, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
This article says a lot about Gov. Rendell as he spouts off about a weaker candidate being fielded by the Democrats, and what it says is not good. Intelligent people support the party and anyone nominated by the party. First, he makes the comment about many not being ready to vote for a black man, and now this! I admire Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, and will support either because I want our boys in Iraq to come home; I want health care for all; I believe in Prochoice; I want our economy repaired; and an endles list that I feel Dems. will be more likely to work for in the years to come. If we can’t expect our leaders to work for the good of the party, I guess the comments in these posts are to be expected. I cringe to think that the Democratic party has so many foolish people on both sides of the debate. My Dad always told me, “Tis better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.” As for me, I am going to spend some serious time praying for the supporters of both candidates as this behavior certainly doesn’t conform to my idea of being Godly.
Posted by: Doris Pairish | May 29, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
The whole country is laughing at the “Democratic” party. First she said she’d abide by party rules re: MI and FL. Until Obama started winning. Now she wants to try to steal the election by changing the rules after the vote, like Al Gore tried to do in 2000. Now it will be decided by a bunch of elitist superdelegates. Nice job Dean.
Posted by: Danny | May 29, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Won’t be the first time a better team lost and won’t be the last. But that said there’s not much difference between there issues. But there is a big differce from McCain, if you like McCain views vote for him. But we need to grow up and stop all the crying.
Posted by: Erv | May 29, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
A person who is best equipped will win the game. In this game Obama is better equipped and he is winning. Clinton..she just want power. It took some time for her to realize what’s going on. I had lot of respect for Clinton’s but now that’s gone. Think for a minute what would have happened if the democrats hadn’t supported Clinton during impeachment, I am sure they wouldn’t have earned the millions. She is disgusting..Yes, I mean Clinton’s are disgusting.
Posted by: r | May 29, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
It doesn’t matter whether HRC lied in every state she won (she didn’t mean to); it doesn’t matter if McCain is on the same page as Bush (Oh! “I will never surrender”), and it doesn’t matter to these voters what the Clintons (Bill and the whole family) did in the past (“I never had sexual relations with that woman” or It’s none of your business”), but it does matter that Obama is an AA (And we all know AA are not smart …sic) The truth is most of McCain’s and HRC voters are racist anyway and would never have voted for an AA (Obama) anyway. That’s why we are in the wars, that’s why the economy is in a recession, and that’s why all those who are voting for McCain/Clinton are crying out for help BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED BUSH TO STEAL THE ELECTION NOT ONCE BUT TWICE! It is time for a change. Obama can’t do no worst than Bush has done. It is going to take him more than four years before we see any change because of Bush’s mess. Open your minds and stop being so racist. Like most AA, we play by the rules but we have to do 120% more than white Americans. (Even the percentage has gone up) Look at Obama, he can’t even claim the nominee because HE MAY HURT CLINTON OR CAUSE HER TO STAY IN THE RACE. She needs to be booted out and her husband too. How stupid is that. I’m no doctor but I do believe she needs emotional help.
Posted by: Lillie | May 29, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I have heard and seen HRC is winning BIG!!!. Despite that BO leads among the pledged and super delegates at least by 205 That’s more than 15% point right there. Why??? Because someone is whining too much. Because someone wants the White House back so desperately so that they could continue the Saga that started in 1993. We don’t need part II of the Saga “Revenge of the Monica Lewinski”. So if you can’t face truth, go vote for McCain, help make US the newest member of the 3rd world countries, US$ is worth almost 20% less than a year ago, beg for more money from China, India, Russia, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore (Saudis and Oil rich countries only loans money to Al-Qaeda) only to blow it up in IRAQ. Pave the way to a brighter future for our children and grand children living in slums and working in McDonald while watching our bond holder’s sons and daughters graduating from MIT, Harvard and Cornell, going back to their countries since there won’t be any high paying jobs. McCain is wrong, he does not understand economics; it won’t take 100 years, just two more terms of McCain to achieve the McCain’s version of American dream.
Posted by: SAQ | May 30, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
We do not need a feminist and a cheating husband in the White House.
No more Jennifer Flower and Monica Lewinski scandales. Isn’t one impeachment enough?
Posted by: Lars | June 1, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am