Rove’s Latest Electoral Maps Have Clinton Stronger Than Obama Against McCain

Three words:
OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE

The New Math:
Obama – Hillary supporters = Pres.McCain

Democratic party insists, that Obama be the nominee, so there you have it . The lost of the general election is placed on the DNC shoulders, we all can thank them for re-electing a Republican to the White House. Hillary has more electoral votes (thats how Bush got in 2000) and she also has more popular votes ( thats what Gore had in 2000), but yet the DNC rather have Obama the looser.

Of course Clinton is stronger. Their is no way a black man is going to win. Kentucky is just the type of walloping Obama can expect in the General

Rove should be in prison where he belongs.

It is plainly obvious that…
1. Clinton would beat Mccain in the GE
2. Obama will lose to Mccain in the GE
3. Clinton will carry her broad base and will still bring in independents, AA and latte liberals (as those groups typically fall to the democrats)
4. Obama will lose a majority of Clinton’s base, including woman (As her base is not guaranteed to go democrat, especially with Obama’s lack of experience and Mccain’s moderate standing)
5. The DNC is going to self destruct if they put Obama forward as the nominee as they will lose their base of support and the people that Obama is bringing in are fickle and will quickly lose interest.

this math you all are using is really incredibly wrong.
Primaries only matter with HUGE margins…and even then it is questionable.
Look at the pols of head to head match ups with McCain getting no scrutiny.
Those polls inherently already have the same high water mark of defections at the heat of this primary….
and McCain is only tying them.
It is a joke…he is going to get blown out of the water.
Look at the real numbers.
and keep telling yourself the majority of Hillary supporters will go to McCain in the face of ending the war, healthcare, our standing in the world, the economy, the imbalance ion taxes…
supreme court justice nominations and the message that sends to congress that yuo vote for McCain’s platform.
that is just dumb… it will be a blow out still…and with obama we gain states.

Whoever puts this Karl Rove’s map in mind or follow it, is lost.
He is a very tricky person!

“Yes, General Custer, if you go into that valley, you will never come out.”
Rove isn’t feigning. He can count electoral votes as well as the rest of us.
The Democrats are on a death march to the sea.

LOL. What does “stronger” means. Electoral vote prediction based on snapshot from 6-months :) Why dont you ask Mark Penn how well that worked, Rove. Clinton was riding high on that only to find out that her polls mean squat 6-months out.

Interesting.
Unfortunately it is the Democratic party primary math and not the Rovian math that we are using to determine the winner.
As a Clinton supporter it was hard to come to terms with this reality. It is however clear to me now that Obama will be the nominee.
My advice to my fellow Clinton supporters is that we should stop the bitterness irrespective of the obnoxious provocations and bellitling from the Obama supporters.
I just wish the Obama supporters could be magnanimous victors. This will go a long way in healing the Democratic party.

i agree there is no way a black barak obama beats mccain…just wont happen in this country..ill be voting mccain over obama, not because of color of skin but because of his character and because of his associations…too shady..i hope to get to vote Hillary

CIndy in NC:
Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, so counting that in the popular vote makes no sense.
Everyone else:
Obama won the primary, plain and simple. The DNC will not and should not overturn the will of the votes or the rules of the game. That will fracture the party more than any Obama win would.

I second that: OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE.
I will not vote for him no matter what the Democratic party threatens. No one will ever overturn Roe v. Wade – Republicans know that would be a disaster for them.
She leads in the popular vote and will have an even bigger lead by June 3.
The last time we gave the nomination to someone who didn’t win the popular vote was George McGovern. Remember how that turned out — he won a total of 17 electoral votes in the General Election.
Pay attention — DNC!!!!

This is just more spin to try and help Clinton. Its over! Like the Democrats would take advice from Karl Rove. The republican brand is horrible. Hello, he wants a republican to win. Sorry, he can take his mind game and play Clinton with it. Nobody else is buying it.

If her voters are not guaranteed to him, then it stands to reason that his voters are NOT guaranteed to her.
If he has electibility issues, then so does she. Don’t assume people will just fall in line behind Hillary, because they are Democrats. Most people, Democrats included, loathe the Clinton’s.
You can practice wishful thinking all you like but your analysis doesn’t make sense.

“Rove’s map shows…?” Who cares about what Rove’s anything shows? Why should we listen to a guy who helped get arguably the worst president in history elected twice? My guess is Rove is afraid of Obama because he represents the opposite of what Rove and Bush represented. In fact, whoever Rove wants running as the democrat (Clinton), I’m definitely voting for the other one (Obama).

Karl Rove and his porcine self channelling Rush Limbaugh. What a shock.

countall thevotes…
she is ahead n the popular vote…
hahahahahahah
c’mon…she’s ahead nationally because you need to count a big state where he wasn’t on the ballot… that is just stupid.
not to mention a state like all the rest where people didn’t meet the candidates and voted for the lady they knew as first lady…you know the same difference as almsot all the states before they campaigned in them…
that is why they call it a beauty contest.
duh
dumb da dumb dumb dumb

ryan every other democrat took their names off the ballot in Michigan but for Clinton!

Hillary to Bill Richardson: “Bill, he can’t win it”.
She’s so right. Those Obamites are in for a sad, sad November. The more info that emerges on this guy, the less appealing he becomes.
That story re gay sex in the limo will be the Sunday morning stuff of conversation in every church in the nation before November, even though the mainstream media will give him a pass on it.

Rove’s map works on one level… it gets Hillary supporters who see the body lying there suddenly move.
It’s alive…it’s alive!
Just what he wants.

I’m sure Rove would love to go up against Hillary (figuratively AND literally); that would be a manageable fight.
It’s Obama that’s giving him nightmares.

OF COURSE ROVE WANTS CLINTON!!!
People these are the Republicans, what do you think they are going to say?? We want to run against Obama knowing he is going to crush McCain??
The Republicans know Hillary has such high negatives and with all the baggage and the SNIPER FIRE lies, they can beat her with their eyes closed!!
Who had a ralley in Oregon with 75,000 people in attendance yesterday?
Who had a rally in somebody’s backyard in Kentucky yesterday begging for money?
PLEASE LOOK AT WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM AND GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Obama 08!

HAHAHA… Do you remember Karl Rove’s interview in 2006 with NPR saying he knows “THE MATH” that Republicans would win? Hey, Rove, why dont you let the professionals do “the math” this time around?
It looks like your math last time didnt work out all that well.

hillary all the way.

I won’t discount Rove. Even though he’s a devisive weasel, he knows what he’s doing when it comes to elections. It’s May, the Democrats are wrapping up their nomination process and the trend is what matters. Obama is up 14 points in 5 days. Wow. I still think that the Democrat will trounce McCain in the head to head debates. As he falls behind, McCain will be forced to go negative. Then he will be ridiculed for promising a positive campaign causing his numbers to go lower. Limbaugh et al will blast him as a weak, unRepublican candidate which will cause conservatives to further abandon him and stay home. And what’s up with Georgia on his map? McCain by 14%? Yeah right.

It will not be a contest against obama in Nov. With all of Hillary supporters voting for McCain plus he doesnt connect to the working class voters.
It will be McGovern all over again. He will maybe win Illinois and D.C.

Well, of course. And if Hillary were in the position of being the just about inevitable nominee instead, then Karl would be saying how McCain lucked out that Hillary beat off McCain’s toughest competition in Barack Obama.
“Bush’s Brain” is… damaged. And, didn’t he get fired anyway, for the fiasco that was 2006?? The Republicans are going down in flames in November.

Clinton looks gross, elitist, haggard and plastic all at the same time – she is so full of it – and then there is her hubby the adulterer Bill hanging in the wings – shudder to think about him back in the White House!
I would vote for Obama never Hillary.
GO GO OBAMA!!

ryan,
When you say “there is not a chance i would vote democrat if that was the situation” you give yourself away as the right-winger you are. Real Democrats say “vote democratic” not “democrat”. Been listening to right-wing radio much?? Only there and on Fixed Noise do they call it the Democrat Party instead of the Democratic Party.

toby
all those ehad to head matches that show mcCain and Obama tied…
they already take into account the highest water mark of possible defections…inherently they have to…
and that won’t be even close come the general when McCain sudddenly has the light of day on him instead of Obama haveing all the focus …
and Hillary supporters are smart caring patriots who worry about the soldiers that are dying, the economy, healthcare, women’s rights, the burden of tax breaks for the wealthy that the rest of the country has to carry…
there is NO way the predominance of people are going to vote out of spite once the issues start being talked about.
That is why Rove and Hillary want these to be the talking points and not the issues.

Obama would win WI, NC, and IN which are marked Red.
As for the toss-up(s) he would win IA, CO, NM, VA, MI and OH.
After the first Obama/McCain debate the choice will be clear. Obama08
The New Math:
Obama supporters + 65% of Hillary supporters + 20% of Republicans + 60% of Independents = President Obama

this is like deflecting the last spin coming out of the Clinrton campaign…
there are 2 minutes left and they are down by 30…but screaming at the refs.
This primary was the one strong place that Hillary COULD win…her stromngest chances were here…she had a 50% approval rating to begin with and that was all predominantly in the demnocratic party.
What do you think she is at now.
this is a joke.

You may not like the messenger, but the message is SOLID. What the Obama supporters don’t get is that America is not some liberal bastian. It is middle of the road conservative. The more people see of BO and his scary bitter wife, Memyselfandishelle, the more they will run to McCain. The devil you know never looked so good.

Karl Rowe is Republican. He would love Hillary to go against McCain so he can win.
Do the opposite of what Karl Rowe says for a Democrat to win.
Go Obama!

Karl is resorting to this nonsense out of sheer desperation. He and the rest of the neocons see the tidal wave coming.
The neocon Bush administration has fragmented the Republican party. Rove is terrified of not just Obama winning, but even more so of the widely expected big downticket effect on other races. When the dust settles, the Republicans will be lucky to have 40% of either the House or Senate. That is what they get for their bully boy bam bam smash mouth governing style for the last eight years.
Obama, unlike Bush, will not repeat Bush’s mistake of becoming drunk on his own power, when he commences his first term as our President in January 2009.

Simple math in terms of delegate count may show that Sen. Hillary Clinton cannot win the nomination without the help of super-delegates. Simple math also show that Sen. Barack Obama also cannot win the nomination without the help of super-delegates. Simple math also shows that Sen. Obama is behind Sen. John McCain in many battleground states. Simple math also shows that Sen. Clinton is ahead of Sen. McCain in many battle ground states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida. Simple logic says that Sen. Clinton is the stronger candidate for the Democrats!

Racial guilt will trump gender guilt
and Obama will be the nominee come
hell or high water, no matter predictions on the electoral map.
Emotion has always beaten rationality
in the donkey party. That’s why it
will be McCain in Nov. The 2-term
Clinton rule was a bubble in a bathtub.

This is the same Karl Rove that is about to be called in to Congress??
May 15, 2008
Categories: Bad behavior
Conyers: ‘We’re closing in on Rove’
Just off the House floor today, the Crypt overheard House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers tell two other people: “We’re closing in on Rove. Someone’s got to kick his ass.”
Asked a few minutes later for a more official explanation, Conyers told us that Rove has a week to appear before his committee. If he doesn’t, said Conyers, “We’ll do what any self-respecting committee would do. We’d hold him in contempt. Either that or go and have him arrested.”

Ryan
You list me ANYTHING on McCain’s campaign (outside of the environment) that is close to Hillary’s platform.
McCain promises to continue the war.
Promises to overturn Roe vs. wade
Promises to let the market handle housing, the economy, healthcare. All the same as Bush.
Promises to put in conservative judges.
Promises to keep George Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy.
Promises to threaten Iran to keep them in check…just like george Bush.
Promises to focus on Iraq when our military is needed desperately elsewhere.
Promises to not approve education opportunities to our vets (because that will take them away from service…you know the service that is overburdened with the war he won’t give a date to).
Promises to keep up the foreign policies that have put us less safe…less economically viable in the world…and keep the world from wanting to “buy American” …or help America…or root for America.
The list goes on.
This election is the easiest one for voters in our history.
If we vote for McCain out of spite we would deserve what we got…
luckily most Hillary supporters are smarter than that…and most Americans have genuinely learned we are not better off voting because someone scared us into it…or out of spite.

If Senator Barack Obama does take the Democratic nomination, all intelligent Democrats will be wishing that we had all listening to Senator Hillary Clinton come Fall. Its not too late!
Vote Hillary America!

Mccain has already released his plans for what he hopes to have done by the end of his first term if elected..Clinton has proposed ideas and pushed for votes in Congress and pushed for debates..Obama has done nothing but say he wants change..i really dont think he stands much of a chance in the GE..i for one will be voting Mccain..I dont think Mccain has a whole lot in common with Bush other than being republican…similar views, different ways for getting them done..Hillary in 08!! if not, Mccain in 08!!

Rove has McCain losing either way! Obama 08!

Those of you who think Rove is doing this because the republicans would rather run against Hillary are making a big mistake. While Hillary has baggage, her baggage is old news and and different kind of baggage than Obama. Obama’s baggage has to do with weakness, patriotism, faith, etc. These are all things that bother the moderates and right wing in our country and that is who Obama needs to appeal to win the general. The liberals in the democratic party have done it to us again.

Susan said, “We already know that Obama is unelectable in the general” What in the world are you talking about Susan? Even Karl Rove has Obama beating McCain (and handily at that). McCain is unelectable, not Obama. Obama had 80,000 people come out to hear him speak Sunday. He is most certainly electable, and will be the next President.

New Mexico went to the republicans last time. There is no way Obama will carry NM even with the help of Richardson. Unlike the democratic primaries, the general is winner take all.

If Sen. Obama is the Democratic nominee, it would be a big mistake! West Virginia showed how weak he really is; but media avoided any serious analysis. Sen. Obama lost in evry possible catagory, even younger voters! Having not won even a one major state during the primaries, including California, New York, Texas, Massachusetts, Ohio, Florida, Michigan and now Pennsylvania, how can Sen. Obama be a serious front runner? He manipulated the caucuses with small groups of zealots; but they are not in play for the presidential election. Our media is wrong to ignore the power and the importance of Latino vote; especially in these 08 elections, the largest minority in the country; larger than the black American vote. The Washington media establishment is misleading the country just as usual─ now cheering for Barack Obama are the same people who took us over the cliff in Iraq. Sen. Clinton was able to bring back the Reagan Democrats back into Democratic Party fold, which I think is a huge accomplishment. Sen. Clinton has shown growing support across the demographics, except among African Americans, who have voted mostly for Sen. Obama in overwhelming numbers. But with the solid support from women and Latinos, working Americans, rural Americans, older voters Sen. Clinton is best able to defeat Mr. McCain and the Republicans in the fall. On one on one match ups in many critical states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan, shows that Sen. Clinton is much better-stronger candidate. Mr. Obama’s coalition that giving him the primary victories are the same that gave the nomination to John Kerry. Without winning the major battleground states Pennsylvania and Ohio, Florida and Michigan Sen. Obama is unlikely be a strong candidate against Sen. John McCain. Sen. Obama is in no better situation than John Kerry or Mike Dukakis. The best chance of winning the White House for the Democrats is still with Sen. Hillary Clinton.

pattydaggs Obama will win the nomination and the general and Clinton will either be by his side or standing right behind him !

SO KARL ROVE COMES CLEAN.
CLINTON IS HIS GAL.
ROTFLMAO.
SEN. BYRD OF W. VIRGINIA WENT OBAMA TODAY.
NOW THERE’S A REAL PATRIOT.
From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
Despite Clinton’s 41-point win West Virginia, Sen. Robert Byrd has thrown his support to Obama. He cites the latest dust up between Obama, Bush and McCain.
“As people all across this great nation know, I have been one of the most outspoken opponents of the Bush Administration’s misguided war in Iraq and its saber rattling around the globe,” Byrd says in a statement released by the campaign. “With the Bush Administration’s latest request to fund this on-going war in Iraq without any attempt to start bringing our troops home, the issue of the upcoming presidential contest has been weighing heavily on my heart. The loss of life continues and the sons and daughters of tens of thousands of American families remain in harm’s way every day.

I agree Clinton would be the tough one to beat. I think thats why these guys are trying so hard to discourage her and wear her down. OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE

if hillary is more electable she would be winning the nomination….
period
SHE IS NOT AHEAD in the popular vote,
or any other metric she can claim anymore.
She ONLY is ahead in popular vote ONLY, repeat ONLY if she counts Florida and Michigan and gives obama no points out of Michigan.
FURTHERMORE,
she is only ahead then because she
DOESNT COUNT CAUCUS states
so tell me hillary supporters,
how can you flip flop on this issue of count all the votes, but dont count all the votes really?
please… she lost fair and square, she is not more electable in any sense of hte word. Were she to be the nominee she would be buried in years of not experience but years of scandal.

dl, it would be stupid to not use your brain when it comes to voting..to just go along with the crowd..that would be a stupid wasted vote

yea i trust what rove says!

barbaraPA -
You are right – don’t vote for a whiner:
“This is the vast right wing conspiracy”
Hillary Clinton
“Why do I always get the first question?”
Hillary Clinton
“Do we need to get another pillow?”
Hillary Clinton
“This is the unfair coverage of the press”
Hillary Clinton

Oh yes, by all means, let’s listen to what Karl Rove has to say, he’s clearly never been wrong on anything before. Please people, why should anyone listen to this guy?! Let’s try and learn from the mistakes that have been made in the past, otherwise history is doomed to repeat itself.

West Virginia only has 5 electoral votes.
In the latest poll, McCain leads Obama by 1 in Ohio.
With no scrutiny what so every his lead is only 1. Obama will win Ohio.
Virginia Obama will win b/c of the AA vote. He can increase the registration of AA democrats in Virginia.
Michigan Obama will win b/c of the college voters/ young vote. In the latest poll, he leads by 2.
After the first Obama/McCain debate Obama will likely recieve 65-70% of Hillary supporters.
The only states he recieve 35% was WV. Every other state were in the margins of 70-75%
Independents still flock to Obama. Obama 60 to McCains 40
And Obama attracts 15-20% of Republicans. Those of which I call Obamaicans.

Oh yeh, I’m taking Rove seriously! He knows what he’s talking about! Listen, this is his version of reverse psychology. Get smart, fools, or this man is going to run another scam on America.

Remember, Rove is the same guy who predicted just a couple months ago that Clinton would be the nominee. Rove’s statements are just wishful thinking. The GOP dreads an Obama nomination. They know how to run against Hillary. They can’t figure out Obama.

dl..keep making up your fanstasy statements. You do not fool anyone..are you working for Obama on this site…if so, bette find another job! You will be looking for one after this election is over!

there are no crazy caucus style votes up for grab for obama this time…he wont be able to beat Mccain…he will never do it..more dirty laundry will come out by then…hope everyone is watching…just a sad day for dems…im proud to say i use my head tho and am not a robot..vote for whom i think will do best for our country..obama surely isnt that man…

Ryan
seems I am using my brain…you are part of that crowd I beleive and I am not listening to you.
I just gave you a list of issues that effect our country on a major level where McCain promises the opposite of Hillary Clinton and you come back with …”use your brain and don’t go with the crowd”…
issues…platforms…promises…outlined policies
that is a majority of what you use to choose the job of President.
Yet you want to turn your back on all of those issues and promises that you said you believed in with Hillary and show congress and the rest that those issues aren’t as important to you by voting for McCain.
That is a waste of a vote if you are someone who THINKS and believes in what Hillary Clinton says she believes in.

Can’t see Michelle Obama as a “First Lady” that would really be a joke!

Obama will never win Ohio. Ohio will go red in the fall with Obama as the nominee. Ohio did not go for Kerry and that election was rather close. Ohioans always look for substance and that is the least of what Obama has. Even with Clinton pushing for Obama, Ohio will not move to the blue column for Obama. With Repuhlicans like Boehner and Portman and the popular democratic governor Ted Strickland who supported Hillary, Obama will scrounge for votes and may find some in the Cleveland area but most Ohioans will go big time for McCain if Obama is the nominee.

stevez515: Exactly which map were you looking at? Neither on of these by Karl Rove shpow Obama winning.

yes dl, i might agree but look at the shady character associations that obama has..a very openly racist spiritual advisor that he worshiped with for 20 years..that is something that just cannot be forgiven..especially how he just denounced the man on television after 20 years of loyal service..that shows a coward to me…he couldnt stand by the man anymore…he is a weak coward…i dont believe a thing he says..again…u are going by what the dnc wants to you vote..not by using your brain

West Virginia will not go for McCain. The state has lived with the burden that they put Bush in office in 2000 – while they voted strongly for Hillary, the state (especially with the newly registered) will not make the same mistake. Remember this was a state that split it’s ballot and elected a Democrat Governor, Senator and fed into the “they’ll take your hunting rifle away” and “kill them poor babies inside your daughters”. Politics has been drug out of the pulpits and preachers are being kicked in the rear in politics. About time. Including Karl Rove who several sources, including Christopher Hitchens and “Bush’s Brain” author Wayne Slater, have said that Rove does not believe in god (while he masterminded the Evangelical blinders). It’s time for Obama and for the poster who said he was a foreigner living in this country and that we deserved Obama – you are correct; this country deserves leadership for and by the people.

If Clinton, though a politically miracle, wins Oregon we will be hearing a whole new message that will supersede anything Rove has to say. Obama, the media, the supers, and the DNC will all be whispering to each other, “What the hell do we do now!” Now that would a story!!

Some of you Obama supporters are really mean and angry! Why is it that your boy will get his butt kicked in Nov if he wins the nomination? Thou doest protest too much!!!

Sorry folks, Obama sounds like he has policies similar to Hillary but they are very, very different. Obama for one is further to the left of Hillary’s policies. Hillary is more centrist and so is McCain. Obama has tried to copy Hillary’s and Bill’s stances on policies and I believe Obama does not really know what policy he stands for. All that he probably knows is that his two daughters will get a dog if he gets to the White House. Michelle most likely has more stances than Obama and believe me she will be the back seat driver for Obama. Hillary would have been fantastic but Obama with his naive, no stance, no vision personality will be a disaster for America.

Maybe the Democrats have a grand plan to outdo Rove this time. Hillary is continuing in the race to keep voters excited and paying attention to the Democrats. She and Obama criticize each other as part of the plan. After Obama wins, they get together as the Democratic ticket and show unity at the Democratic Convention. People see them together holding hands and declaring that they are ready to work together for the good of America. Now you have the Obama and Clinton supporters vs the hobbling republican party. That might change Mr Rove’s map.

Where in the He!! do you people get the impression from Karl Roves Map that Obama will win? Neither of the maps have Obama winning.

Let’s face it, McCain couldn’t win against anyone.
1) Bush’s negative wake
2) He’s got weak GOP support
3) He’s got more dirt than most candidates
4) He flies off the handle WAY too often
5) He’s not charismatic
6) His statements contradict WAY too often
7) The only reason he is where he is, is because of a large political machine.
I support none of the potential presidential candidates.
Write in Vote for me: Rob

BBLACK — You are so obviously a McCain supporter. You Republicans have nothing better to do than try to disrupt this election? Obama will be the next President, and he’ll be a great one at that. I guess you fools can have your fun now, because you’re in for a huge loss in Congress and the Presidency.

Seems to me Obama without the black vote isn’t likely to win…

Ryan
You can’t be that misinformed (I am not saying that to be insulting) that you don’t know the Clintons and the lists of shady characters…
Obama has 1000′s of associations…just like anyone.
If I ran for office… I am sure they could dig up an old coach or (my minister for that matter that use to preach against gays) or even my Dad…who is known for saying “we should just blow up the whole middle east…screw em…and drop a bomb on themchinese as well”
I love my dad but I probably could not run for President because of him.
It is what he says and “preaches” so to speak that matters…
Obama’s actions have never shown any cohesion between he and those shady characters…besides some stupid 1/2 acre land thing… that is just stupid… If that is the worst unscrupulous action in all of Obama’s political history… it is nothing compared to McCain or Clinton’s…
now it is right now in our history about …the war… the economy…healthcare out of control…our sinking standing and subsequent loss of security and help from nations around the world.
Those need to be priority numero uno.

The only politician in America with higher negatives that George Bush is Hilary Clinton…..Obama has a MUCH broader appeal than HRC….Please no more Clinton’s or Bush’s. American needs a change from the status quo. Hilary on the ballot in November is a guaranteed loss for the Democrats.

Obama will probably not win Ohio, Florida, and PA; whereas, Clinton could easily win them. There are other states that Rove has in Obama’s column that I don’t think will be there, either.
Not only is Clinton better qualified, she is more attractive to a broad range of voting Democrats.

if obama gets the nod..I am voting for clinton…and so will the majority of the much needed latino swing vote…the DNC will regret choosing obama

Rove should be writing from jail. Who cares what a Fox in the henhouse thinks? Up is down and around is under for anyone who left their neocon decoder ring at home. And Rove is full of it. Please get this traitor to our nation security out of our headlines.

More important: Hillary is the better candidate!

When John McCain is being sworn in the democrats can’t say they weren’t warned!

Too those Obama supporters who think every Hillary supporter is angry..get over yourself. We Clinton supporters who is the best for this country and it is not Obama! We want to guard this country against people like him! And if it comes to McCain..then he will get the votes! At least we know what Clintons and McCain’s baggage is and their baggage is angelic compared to Obama’s baggage! They do not have ties to terrorists and anti American friends!

There is no honesty, no ethics in counting Michigan. And the rules were laid out at the beginning. So….Clinton and her supporters want Michigan to count. Just proves beyond a doubt that she and her supporters are lieing cheaters. We all know perfectly well that in the reverse…if Obama was behind and wanted votes to count where Hillary wasn’t on the ballot….she’d be screamiong, crying, threatening to sue. It’s hard to be gracious to her at the end because of the hateful way she ran her campaign.

The NY Times had an article on media sexist bias against Hillary. This is most evident in MSNBC – Chris Mathews etc. It has been vicious and contibuted directly to the results. Compared to that Fox News (believe it or not) has been quite even).
These attackes against Hillary have made those who voted for her pretty mad.
If the J. Wright story broke out a liitle earlier in the primaries, Obama would have been swept out.

Really, big surprise. Karl Rove sends out information that makes the Hillary/Obama discussion linger on. Am I the only person that see’s through this. Republicans are shaking in their boots at the response Obama is creating and they would rather Hillary battle them in the Fall. Their ammo on the clintons is 5 miles long, Obama not so long.

Hillary won all the battle ground states- barack obama lost badly. To vote for this man is a dangerous mistake. Hillary and only Hillary can defeat Mccain in Nov. Vote smart vote Hillary!

Mark – And, when we continue to be mired in Iraq after 2013…and when our deficits continue to mount…and when our military quality continues to slip…and when our health care program worsens….and when our infrastructure continues to fail… can we say: You weren’t warned.

dl, you are wrong..the fact that obama went to this church for 20 years, called this man his spiritual advisor and even had this man baptize his children pretty much says they were tight as can be…come off it..obama knew what wright was preaching and was there supporting for 20 years

Keep in mind that Rove is the Master Trickster who put GWB in office.
He does NOT have Democrats’ best interests in mind.
And he and the GOP would dearly love to face off vs. Clinton. They’ve long viewed her as the weakest Dem candidate, and they harbor long grudges from pre-2000.
She’s also not really vetted: Obama hasn’t raised issues re her “dirty laundry” – nor would any Dem candidate have done so, since it makes the entire party (and the last Dem presidency) look bad.
But the GOP would have a field day with everything that Dems have ignored, plus the current Calif case re: illegal fundraising for her Senate run, integrity issues, campaign misspeaks/gaffes, leadership temperament, actual experience, Bill’s lobbying conflicts of interest + potential White House interference …

as a Florida DEM I will go Republican if OBAMA is chosen…that scam artist has tried everything to block my vote..most of my community rejects him as an elitist the DNC better get their act together and CHOOOSe CLINTON!

Don’t believe that Obama “DREW A HUGE CROWD” in Oregon. Those people were bussed and flown in from all over the country to act like Obama drew a huge crowd. That was probably everyone he has voting for him. They all had to show up to make people think he is a popular condidate. I know many people that have been running all over the country for months now! Isn’t it funny that the news programs all HAD to mention how many people there were in the crowd. Just more PR. Won’t work for us. Hillary is the only answer for this country.

CLINTON OR MCCAIN!

I like Atlanta too, but if you think for a minute that the ghetto population (primarily black) is not tearing this city down, then you are mistaken..that is why they are being pushed out of the city limits..so we can clean up after their mess…making good safe subdivisions here again so the kids can run the street instead of having to be scared of being shot or raped by some gang…im not afraid to say im happy that the Atlanta city officials are raising property and sewer taxes to get rid of the ghetto trash and send them out to i dont really care where…

All anybody needs to do is look at Rove’s Meet The Press interview back in 2004 when Tim asked Mr Rove if he thought H Clinton would run in 2008. The Glee Mr. Rove tried to contain at that prospect was evident to all that watched.
As a GOP operative his singular objective is for a GOP win. I am curious why this article did not mention that it is very likely that Mr. Rove wants A) McCain to go against H Clinton in the GE and/or B) Mr. Rove would like to keep the Democratic Primary going as long as possible to give Mr. McCain as much time as possible to get his political house in order before the GE.

alexia: So true!

if OBAMA WINS..I VOTE REPUBLICAN.

WOW!!! I am truly blown away by SOME of what I have read. This is 2008 and we – “Americans” have the nerve to look puzzled or diagree when they say that PREJUDUCE still exists in this country. This is TRULY amazing to me. I would think by now people would be judged on “THEIR” character or merits not the color of their skin. I am DEEPLY ashamed. EVERYONE knows that the principal views and stance on the most relevent current issues are VERY, VERY similar for both D-Candidates. That’s why Hillary was trying to sell the “Clinton/Obama ticket” not so long ago. Why can’t you guys let the process take it’s course and have it decide the winner?? AND you guys support it. It’s the Democratic way. We did. I am a REPUBLICAN and I WOULD NEVER sell out my party. Where’s your committment to the issues you claim are SOOO IMPORTANT. Are they important ONLY if Hillary is the one that’s proclaiming/proposing the change? Hypocrisy!!! You democrats are going to crash and burn come election and it won’t be because O’bama is unelectable. I extend to you an invitation.. by all means..PLEASE VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!! He is the better candidate. AND…Guess What??HE’S WHITE!! You gotta love him!!

Great! Now the Democrats should follow Karl Rove. He’s given them an asskicking in the last two pres. elections.
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but his predictions and his little crazy scribblings have always been right on target, huh?

Juan – you indicate that the Latino (at least your) vote would be for McCain and against Obama and his supporter Richardson (by the way Richardson will not be Obama’s VP selection). You should consider that the Republican’s and their CIA operatives that supported the dictatorship in Guatemala killed tens of thousands (and we’ll just leave Nicaragua and Honduras alone for right now) and remember that immigration in this nation is dysfunctional and in 2000 during the budget stalemate after GWB was elected he promised Clinton he would clean-up the INS – in March he extened the LIFE act to April 30th (with tens of thousands unable to process paperwork – don’t you recall the lines around INS on midnite?) and the backlog grew and grew (with thousands of valid applications shredded in the San Diego office – to reduce backlog) and the dysfunction continued for 7 more years and the fence is being errected and we still have multi-billion dollar coporations bringing in “skilled tech” labor while retrained unemployed US workers cannot get those jobs and crops dying on the trees or in the ground because it takes 60 days to get ag workers. In a country that has used immigration as de facto slave labor I think you need to revisit history before casting your ballot – I sincerely hope so.

Let’s hope the DNC has access and is looking at realistic polling about which candidate is more electable. Lately, I think that all they see are the dollar signs reflected in their eyes – seduced by the obscene amounts of money Obama has raised. Too bad for Obama that cash doesn’t necessarily translate into votes.
If he wonders about that, Obama and the DNC can just ask Mitt Romney.

I’d trust a republican before trusting OBAMA..OBAMA IS FULL OF BS and he has WAY 2 MANY TERRORIST TIES ALL OVER

The question has always been who can win the election in November, not who can win a popularity contest now. Check out another ELECTORAL MAP site

My plan B in the event that the DNC fails to wake up and nominate Hillary Clinton -
vote for the other principled, experienced candidate in this race – John McCain.

To all those that believe at this point that hillary will somehow NOW win…
Even if she were to steal the nomination today, she wouldn’t win squat!
And to those that think she could still win, keep dreaming, you all have become delusional. She’ll be lucky to keep her Senate seat….and don’t say I didn’t warn ya!

Rove is a snake in the grass. Yeah, I’m sure he has the Democrat’s best interest in mind. Right. I would never trust ONE WORD coming from Rove’s mouth. NEVER.

Karl Rove is no honest Abe. It is wishful thinking not a scientific poll that is the real reason for the conclusion. Republicans are loosing and the only hope they have is if they can run against Hillary. In either case McCain has very little chance and he can continue his Iraq war as a senator and let us see whether in 2013 he can bring back the troops. His campaign will be pitiful as there will be no decent person to run it as one by one all of them will be running away because of their past sins. So Rove can keep roving and expect that his sins of electing and re-electing Bush get washed away but that will never happen. His hands are blood stained.

I am one dem who will be voting for McCain in the general election. Sorry to burst your bubble Vanessa.

You might say that averaging polls is unscientific. Look at the final RCP projection for 2004.
The only state this method got wrong was Wisconsin.
My best guess is that averaging has a way of minimizing the biases extant in each polling method. Obviously this isn’t proof that it works; not enough examples. But it’s a reason to pay attention to averaging. Given how close the method was in 2004, suggests that it may have some value.

Clinton people count votes like Bill Clinton plays golf–they cheat–Florida and Michigan don’t count and if they do then caucus states votes should be counted–a vote is a vote. Obama runs better on the west coast and mid west and will carry the rust belt states but maybe by not as much as CLinton. Mr. Rove will have a lot more time to do this after he’s in jail for the US attorney scandal, particularly the version for Alabama. No third term for Bush with McCain and no third term for Bill with Hillary.

That says a lot. The Republicans would LOVE to run against Hillary and are puzzled about Obama’s campaign.
Rove and Hillary are keep trying to change the rules until they get her the nomination that’s for sure. Kind of like watching Pat Buchanan or Lou Dobbs…they don’t like anything or anybody but themselves.

Predict all you want Karl Rove. McCain will lose.

Eric – Do you know how to read? McCain is beating Obama according to Rove.

Bottom Line,
Surely Karl Rove would not have an agenda, and is always truthful and honest and especially helpful to the Democrats. How silly of me to forget that.

To those Obama supporters who believe Hillary’s supporters will ultimately come back to Obama, don’t count on it. Remember, Hillary is a moderate, and many of her supporters are moderate. Many of Hillary’s supporters think that McCain’s positions are closer to theirs than are the positions of Obama.
Obama’s ardent supporters think the Iraq war is issue number 1, and Hillary’s vote on the war in 2002 is enough to disqualify her as a candidate. But, most of the country was initially behind the war, and turned against it only when it was clear the Bush administration had bungled it. They give Hillary a pass on the Iraq vote.
So, it comes down to basic positions on issues, and McCain is closer to the positions of moderate voters than Obama.

Rove is a Republican…..Whatever he says helps Republicans……He’s a LIAR……Old school politics isn’t going to work in 2008….THE MAP HAS CHANGED…..Obama will win against McCain in the biggest LANDSLIDE IN US HISTORY!

I’m pretty sure that all the people claiming to be Democrats who say that they’ll be voting for McCain if Obama gets the nom are just a bunch of lying Republicans anyway. No real Dem wants to see another Republican in the White House ever again.

Obama is dangerous! Obama refers to former president, John F. Kennedy, as diverting us from WW3 when the missiles were in Cuba. That’s Bull! Kennedy caused the Cuban guerrillas to be slaughtered as a trade off. He never sent in the marines to back up the guerrillas to back up the Cuban army which was the Bay of Pigs invasion. The Soviets, removed the missiles from fear of nuclear attack that JFK threatened them with.

It’s funny to see all these Obama supporters carry on about racism. Where was your outrage when Obama spewed some of the greatest bigotry ever to come out of the mouth of a presidential candidate. If the media was not in his corner, he would have been drummed out of the race long ago.

Leo…there are a lot of stupid people in the world…sad to think they would prefer McCain….but this is why our country is where it is….stupidity

Just-Listen: When making accusations (which are false to begin with) at least get basic facts straight. There are 55 Islamic countries (not 57) and if I were to list Hillaries mis-spokens as well as Senator McCain’s I am sure those on this board would be bored. Look up: and P.S. Senator Obama clearly stated this morning on ABC that he was a Christian and remarked the role Christ played in his life. I think it is well that ignorance and political spin be replaced with some measure of decent behavior towards someone who clearly is trying to make things better for our nation rather than make false accusations based on false figures.

I still don’t care WHO wins the Democratic nomination – they are both GREAT candidates and I will happily vote for either one of them. The one thing I will NOT do is vote for another Republican ever again for as long as I live! I hate the GOP like poison.

Every immigrant when they want to become US citizen they have to know how many states in the US.
Obama is not an immigrant he should know better than foreigner.
How’d come Obama does not know?
How he counted into 57 states?

Well, I’ll take Michelle Obama any day over a self-confessed drug addict like Cindy McCain who stole prescription drugs from a nursing home resident and who refuses to tell us how her husband is benefitting from her money. I am fed up with Republicans who think they are above the rules. Plus, didn’t Rove make some ridiculous predictions about Repubs recently–that were totally off-base?

clinton supporters will not support Obama and why should we, the guy blast her and her man calling them racist, when he himself is one. Oh i forgot he said he didn’t know about his preacher. Give me a break! On top of all this the women are going to be flipping mad , cus Obama and his camp along with his Media affiliates use sexist remarks, they call poor people stupid ,putting up photos of Hilbillies and portraying them as stupid clinton supporters. Now he wants our help. I will vote for McCain b4 I vote for this flip flopping do what ever i can propaganda!

roves october surprise,michelle at the church railing on about white people.yea a great first lady.rove has the tape.

DW – I seriously doubt that you’re a Democrat OR a Clinton supporter. We REAL Dems know that beating the GOP is more important than throwing temper tantrums. I support Hillary, too, but I will vote for WHOEVER my party nominates because the stakes are just too high to ever elect another incompetent Republican like Bush again!!!

what a contaminated source, this is the man who put cia operatives in danger by exposing one of them for political reasons. wake up america this man cannot be believed.

Whether Hillary supporters are as bigoted as Obama supporters is open to debate. What is not open to debate is the fact that Obama and his supporters get a total pass by the MSM and editorial boards of this country when it comes to his bigoted statements.

My thoughts..Mrs.Obama should not be off limits nor Mrs. Mc Cain. They both interjected their own words. Mrs Obama..Re: was not proud of her country until she was an adult… and then Re: Mrs. McCain, said she was always very proud of her country. The Democrats even put the Bush’s children in the crossfires when it came to politics. The Obama supporters and his managers seem to be very disrespectful and seem to want their way on everything! Why do we say this? Because.. We cannot talk about these topics.. his race, (tho, he brings it up all the time) his parents, his background, his friends, his church, the people whom he knows from his past, his terrorists connections..his business connections, how much money he makes, his middle name and NOW his wife..don’t talk about her. His message is not positive and cannot bring the people together. I will never vote for him!

DDS – provide a bigoted statement by Obama.

Gee, I should believe Carl Rove–he allowed ABC to “get” this information (leak, leak) out to the public. Obviously Rove and the Republicans want McCain to be up against Hillary. Gee, why would that be?? Oh I know, they think McCain can beat her easier than Obama!! Nothing Rove does is by accident.

On The Glory,
Anybody watched the GMA this morning, when Michelle talked about Hillary would think she is a nice lady.
But back a few months ago on one interview when the reporter asked her if she’d like to support Hillary if she is the nominee, Michelle answered :” I have to think about it.”
I guess now she has to embrace Hillary supporters to get their votes. She should act differently.

It sounds like a weak methodology at best, and I can tell you for a dead unerring certainty that Connecticut isn’t even in play for McCain; Obama or Hillary will stomp him here till the cows come home. Recall how badly W lost there in 2004? Nothing’s changed for the better for the GOP since then…

Sonia, I’m with you 100%!

SB – you stated: “he has fooled thousands with his slogan ‘CHANGE’. in my opinion, he is offering nothing but the option to change the color of skin that the president has. he is absolutely not qualified to be one…….FIRST, the “new” GOP slogan is “Change You Deserve”….so I think jumping on the McCain ship because you hate “Change” may mean you’d rather drown that get in the lifeboat and SECOND….”offering norhing but the option to change the color of skin” belies the real trouble you have – in the ’50′s we politely said you have a problem.

Obama is racist!

Patty daggs
You are way out of touch. You obviously aren’t one of those people
who lost their home
who don’t have healthcare
who can’t find a job
who is piling on the credit card debt
who has family who are in Iraq
who has a family member who was injured in Iraq
has ever traveled in the past 4 years and heard our reputation in the world
or someone who cares about a conservative supreme court.
or the effects of a McCain won election on the congress faith that the country needs a different direction
It’s not scare tactics when you/we are living in it.

I think if a candidates wife makes a public statement it should not be off limits. To be fair, the Obama campaign should play Cindy McCain saying she’s proud of her country and ask radio stations to play unpatriotic music in the background.

Are you still going to beleive this guy?

Why in the world should anyone not already brain washed by the anti-intellectual, anti-choice, anti-gay, pro-gun, laissez-faire right care what Karl Rove has to say? He’s the master mind that got Bush and Cheney elected to two terms for heaven’s sake, so he’s anything but a disinterested political analyst. Of course his map shows Hillary a tougher opponent for McCaine; the Republican Party is sacred to death of Obama’s ‘yes-we-can’ movement. Take away the Republicans who voted for Hillary in primary elections and now say they won’t vote for Obama in the general election, and Obama would have had the nomination locked back in March.

Karl Rove is a sleaze.. Guaranteed this report was not meant to be accurate, and it has some ulterior motive behind it.

DDS: I am going to repost your response so this nation sees what a mess we are in:…..From DDS: “You want some bigoted statements by Obama. Here’s a few. He described his grandmother as a typical white woman. He said white people are bred a certain way. He stereotyped rural people with the guns and religion comment. He said white folks’ greed runs a world in need.” NOW – get some education: A)Grandmother…. “The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know – there’s a reaction in her that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way and that’s just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it. What makes me optimistic is you see each generation feeling less like that. And that’s pretty powerful stuff” B) White people bred a certain way: just reread It’s interesting, right? C) Guns and religion: “It’s interesting, right? Lately there’s been a typical sort of political fight. Because I said something that everybody knows is true — which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois, who are bitter. They are angry. They feel like they’ve been left behind. They feel like folks aren’t paying attention to what they’re doing here. So I said, ‘Well, you know, when you’re bitter you turn to what you can count on.’ So people, they vote about guns. Or they take comfort from their faith, and their family and their community. And they get mad about illegal immigrants who are coming into this country. Or they get frustrated about, you know, how things have changed. That’s a natural response. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” D) Greed / need: Pbama in New York “on Thursday blamed lobbyists, greedy businessmen and complacent Washington politicians for creating “an ethic of greed” that led to today’s foreclosure crisis…..NOW let us read the whole cloth, not the frayed fabric you try to sell as boltage.

and just so any “normal Americans are reading this…
most Hillary supporters are planning to vote for Obama…
becasue most hillary supporters are thoughtful, intelligent democrats who care deeply for this country…
those on here that say”we’re going to vote for Mccain” are the whack jobs who have thrown their entire anger and meaning behind her without thought for the country and the values and policies she is actually saying out of her mouth which are entirely different than McCain’s.
Pro-life/pro-choice
continue the war/end the war
predominant tax savings to the rich/predominant tax savings to middle and lower class
do something about healthcare/let the market handle it
do something about the housing foreclosure crisis/don’t do anything
appoint conservative judges/appoint more liberal judges
fight for lower income/fight for free market above all
strengthen afghanistan military/ continue focus on iraq
regain our standing in the world / keep our foreign policy and standing in the world
Americans and Hillary supporters (besides most of the ones on here) want to get us back on track… that means they don’t vote for McCain who has promised almost exactly the same policies as Bush.

It’s interesting to watch these hypnotized Obamabots rationalize everything. If you blog against his bigotry, you must really be a Republican. If you don’t vote for him, you must be racist. If you try to hold Obama responsible for his bigoted statements, you must be taking it out of context. I wonder if reality will set in when he loses in November. I doubt it.

I can’t help but wonder what’s going through the minds of the “Obama is unelectable” types when they see 80,000 people come out for a rally in Portland, OR (often teasingly referred to by its own citizens as “America’s Whitest City”…
…I dunno…I’ve seen a bunch of elections and actually drove an hour to join a massive crowd that gathered to see Bill Clinton in his first campaign…I think Obama’s got that “thing” that Bill had…you can slice and dice and parse and analyze…but how can deny what happened yesterday in Oregon?

DONT DISRESPECT ME BY NOT COUNTING MY VOTE!
I would add Obama Will NOT win Michigan or Florida either! The voters that live in these states know the truth.
1. He sent a letter to the state taking his name off Michigan ballot.
2. When The state of Michigan tried to put him and company back on our ballot, they threatened to sue the state of Michigan if they did.
3. He and his henchmen were here in Michigan telling all to vote uncommitted for Obama, richardson, Biden and Edwards. uncommitted was 40% divided by 4 = 10% for Mr. Obama.(ummm thats campaigning)violation
4. Obama’s campaign refused a revote here in Michigan even though we had it funded.violation of the people
5. No campaigning in states was an agreement he violated in Florida (he ran tv ads there for 2 full weeks before primary)violation
6. He was here in Michigan campaigning last week(hello the primaries are not done yet) another violation I’d say.(oh yeah, he also wore a flag pin) after saying he didn’t want to and wouldn’t.
7. Mr. Obama still to date do not want to count our votes unless the are diveded 50/50 (NO WAY IS THAT RIGHT!)
violation of the people
8. Bad judgement (how long does it take you to understand your pastor/church spews hate) maybe 6 mo I’ll give you a year or 2 years if you dont attend regularly (and thats pushing it).
9. Ask yourself this question would you stay with a church thats doctrine you didn’t believe in?
10. More bad judgement(threw his white grandmother under the bus as a racist)
wow! What would you do if someone did this to your grandma?
11. More bad judgement: I can no sooner denounce my pastor than I can a family member.
UNTRUSTWORTHY=He then denounces his pastor. Damn I’m missing something here maybe I should sip some of your kool-aid.
12. Even more bad Judgement:I will meet with terrorist & rogue countries WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS (now thats a doozy)
13. Letting his wife say “Someone needs to give up their share of the pie in order for others to have a piece” (hello this is america bake more pie)
14. Another quote from Michelle “Barack will not let you stay in your home and ignore him~he will make all come out of their comfort zone and participate with him” (Again this is America if I want to stay in my home and have NO PART of the OBAMA’S~I DONT HAVE TO~THAT IS MY RIGHT)
15. Another quote from michelle “We are having a hard time paying for our daughters piano lessons” puuleeezzzzz!!!! at a net income of $500,000.00 a year.
What the hell do you think the hard working “LUNCHBUCKET DEMOCRATS” are having a hard time paying for stuff like GAS, MILK ETC…(FYI “LUNCHBUCKET DEMOCRATS” is also Reagon democrats no matter what color, ethnicity, gender the original term came about from people taking a homemade lunch in a lunchpail (or brownbagging it) to work because they could not afford to buy lunch daily)
READ REAL CAREFUL NOW OK~~PUT DOWN THE KOOL-AID, SLOWLY NOW CAREFUL PUT DOWN THE KOOL-AID DONT WANT IT FLIP-FLOPPING AROUND DO YOU~WOULDN’T WANT IT TO SPILL OVER AND MAKE A HUGE STICKY MESS NOW!!!!!!!
Wake-up smell the coffee or roses if you prefer he is UNELECTABLE and will lose.

OBAMA CA NOT WIN! The only states he wins are republican stats and they will go republican in the fall if he is nominee. Hillary carries all of the big staes and she can carry them in the general election Obama will not. Hillary has the support of the poeple. Obama cheats in EVERY primary and every caucus. Look at what the MAyor did in GAry Indiana. He trid to hold all of the Hillary votes until another mayor pressued him and then he released them. If no one would have said anyhting he would never have released Hillary’s votes. OBAMA IS A CHEATER! If the DNC pushes Obama I will vote Republican.

Thumb, this typical white woman agrees with you, Obama is a racist who has been going to a racist church for 20 years. Obama cannot garner enough votes across the racial divide to win because he has dissed the middle class, people with less education, the elderly, the hispanics and asians and who knows who else. I think he’s just down to the AA’s who don’t realize they are being manipulated by him and the latte liberals who think he’s going to cure all our racial ills. However, this guy has stirred up the racial divide like no candidate ever because of his really scary associates and tactless remarks.

Don’t know why this is news. Sane people who have followed presidential elections for a while know this. Moveon.org type extremist liberals want to push Obama down the throat of unwilling democrats. Obama is a loser, unless you drink the Kool-aid of course.

Oh yeah. I’m gonna trust Karl Rove. That’s the #1 dirty tricks guy of the last election. If he says it’s daytime, I’ll look out the window to see what the truth is.

If Obama gets the most delegates, he is the nominee. I am a republican. You democrats will be foolish to take any advice from Karl Rove. Do you really think that Karl Rove wants whats best for you democrats?

Rove? Why can’t this cretin stay under his rock?

Mel
if you look at the real numbers which no one is doing…you will seethat the dem turn out crushed the republican turn out this year…
that primary numbers within a party mean nothing unless they are gigantic margins…and even then it is questionable
and most importantly the head to head match ups between Obama and McCain inherently have included the numbers from the height of the primary which would include the highest reported defections because of spite from the dem party…which as muchas some hillary supporters wish won’t even be close.,,when it comes to vote in the general between these two candidates plans and policies.
This is most likely going to be a blow out compared to the last few decades of elections.
Look at the primaries Obamas numbers alone were double that in many cases of McCain.
The country wants change and McCain is only going to change the environmental practices of the country.
He says get rid of pork but he has campaign made up of all the pig farmers (lobbyists).
Obama will be the next president short of the world blowing up.

Karl Rove is a FAT liar.
There have been polls taken that have said and quoted,
the GOP wanted Hillary to be the GOP opponent because
she would be easier to beat than Obama by McCain.
Obama will kick McCains but during the presidential
debates once he’s there. McCain is nothing more than
a re-badge bumbling Bush in different clothing,
who stutters, uses words like “Googler and Internets”, and
can’t articulate himself and is short tempered.
Therefore Karl Rove and his goons want, people Democrats to believe Hillary is
harder to beat and vote for her, instead of Obama and take the
real harder opponent out of the picture before the Presidential elections
in Nov. 08.

The respected site electoral-vote has consistently shown similar results: Hillary does better in electoral votes than does Obama against McCain in the general election matchups, based on polling data.

In 2006 Rove said his math was “THE MATH” and that republicans would hold the house and senate. So much for his credibility and this discussion.

Wow, the concern trolling here is funny! I’m so sure Rove is so concerned about the Democratic party that he’s trying to “help” them. Uh huh.

This proves to me that Rove wants to run against Clinton. Why else would he push this point of view?
Obama/Byrd

Breaking news!
barrack Obama had met with a Hezbullah leader in MI!
Obama Met Secretly With Shady Imam in Michigan This Week
Barack Obama met secretly with a controversial Imam this week in Michigan.
Imam Hassan Qazwini has hosted Louis Farrakhan at his mosque and is close to the Hezbollah Spiritual Leader who issued the fatwa to blow up 300 U.S. Marines and embassy officials in 1983!

Obama is the real , Bush third term!
terminal! McCain is the real change!

ROGER, if you would stop watching main stream media which ADMITS thAT they are Obama bias, and start looking for the truth. You will see that Obama’s records show that he has campaign contributions from DEAD people. THis is a fact. Media tries to cover it up. You can keep your head in the sand or you can look at the facts. If you are a close Minded person that does not want the truth then I do not want to correspond with you. If you want facts I can give them. In the mean time- STAY AWAY FROM THE OBAMA KOOL-_AID!

if you look at the real numbers which no one is doing…you will seethat the dem turn out crushed the republican turn out this year…
Posted by: dl | May 19, 2008 5:12:34 PM
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You are a very wiseman, And to add even in states where Barack finsh second to Hillary , he carry at times 2 to 3 times more voters than McCian.
So Come November.. Barack VOTERS plus 2/3 of Hillary will be more than enough to destroy McCain.
Poor McCain cant even motivate REAL Republicans , They are not on board with neo_con politics. And McCain not shy; He wants to carry on George Bush policies.
Amd whatever independent voters Mccain had the minute he went into bed with george Bush . Those were footsteps you heard of them LEAVING HIM.
On a election nite it will be a whippin.
Young voters have not been this motivated in their life . and they will propel the double digit victory.
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Hillary’s strength and determination are sure signs of a great leader. VOTE SMART.VOTE HILLARY!

It’s up to the Democrats to pick a nominee that will best lead the country, not win for the sake of winning. With such overwhelming numbers turning out in the Dem primaries, the Dems have the luxury of picking the best candidate not just someone that will appeal to the remnant of dopey republicans that want something different but are not willing to vote for a true Democratic candidate.

Hillary in DENIAL is a sure sign of a horrible leader.
It’s over. I wouldn’t be surprised if Al Gore endorsed Obama Wednesday.
By the way, Obama picked up 5 SDs today… so far

The republicans really know how to play mind games with democrats. don’t you get what the republicans are doing. divide and conquer. regardless of what Karl Rove says Hillary is getting her butt kicked by Obama now!!

I’d more believe the opposite of what Rove is saying. I suspect he’s still on the payroll.

Obama please do not take the witch as your VP!
Do not pay her debt!
We did not donate you to pay her off!
Hillary go to hell!
Obama 2008!

does anybody else notice the trend Rove has set here?…. a couple months ago he said Obama was the toughest… then he said Hillary was the toughest to beat…. then he offered advice to Obama on how to beat Hillary (this was during his streak of primary wins mind you) Now he says Hillary can beat McCain…
Confusion Tactics anyone?
For Dems. its as simple as: 1. Obama/Clinton ’08 2. General Election Win 3. Clinton/Sebelius ’16

mel – seems you really were hoping for a woman president. You despise Obama? Yes, and I’m sure if Hillary were running against McCain – he would have just graciously backed out of the campaign cause he knows how much it means to you to elect a woman… He wouldn’t have been so rude as to run a brilliant and surprisingly decent campaign.

JR,
Of course the Republicans are playing mind games that is why they put Obama up there in the first place. EVERYONE knew that Hillary was going to be preident and they had to stop her. SO they created this “ROCK star” with an occult following for all the limings out there. He is backed by republicans to steal it away from Hillary so he can lose in November. Wait and see. if he wins the nomination that is exactly what will happen. Can’t help if you can’t see the truth.

Hillary is the one!

Hillary is definitely better against McCain than Obama. Hillary can at least make the argument that she is centrist (where the bulk of the undecideds reside). There is no way that Obama could make this claim. He is hardcore socialist and there is no denying it. He also has stayed in a radical rasist church for 20 years. How do you recover from that. As a Moderate Democrat, I think we have just handed another election to the righties.

Michelle, sweetie, stop belittling the country and we will stop “picking” on you. Oh by the way, I do not buy for one second that you have respect for Hillary. You Michelle Obelle Obama are one evil lady!

Whats all this vote Hillary stuff? I know Clinton’s already out. Is Hillary Duff announcing her candidacy as an independent, I don’t get it, Hillary who?

Obama won’t even answer a question unless his staff screens them first. He also refuses to debate Hillary because he does not have enough knowledge and he looks stupid against her. Hillary always answers questions from people without a prescreening. Becuase she is tough, articulate, and intelligent. You obama supports need to get your head out of the sand and be afraid of this man.

Jim: I trust Rove also even though I am a democrat for Hillary. Rove is a very intelligent man and well educated. He could throw rings around Obama who is suppose to be educated but cannot win a debate, hesitates before answering the questions and sometimes stutters. I can’t imagine him as president or his run of the mouth wife Michelle.

I don’t think the turnout in Portland is a positive for Obama. Portland is known coutrywide as a concentration of left wing loons. A large turnout there just reinforces Obama’s reputation as a far left wack job. For example, if Obama went to Harlem and 100K people showed up, would that make peopole in America more likely to vote for him. No. Than why would 70K lefties with dreadlocks and tie-dies do it. Also, his comments about SUV’s and home temperatures make him look like an environmental kook.

ON THE GLORY ROAD, if you would read others post instead of just writing your own you would see a million reason why you should not vote fro Obama!

Mel – you really must be personally invested because you spit out every inane argument with conviction.
Its OK though, President Obama won’t hold it against you. Get used to the idea and by the way, Hillary won’t win next time or the time after that or the time after that. That victory speech that she wrote as first lady will never be delivered.

countallthevotes – your numbers are incorrect. Where did the numbers come from?

Obama is nothing more than a creation by the media and the republicans. He nothing nothing about the world, policies, diplomacy, geography, nothing. he is freinds with terrorist he is as crooked as he can be. Aren’t you afrain of a mna who can not answer questins unless they are presreened by his staff. And when he talk on his own he he looks like and idiot. He couldn’t even answer a question in Oregan so he called th ereport “sweetie” to divert attention form his lack of knowledge and it worked the media focused on sweetie remark instead of him avoiding the question. you woul dbe ignorrant if you voted for him. Please stay awy from main stream obama supporting media lik MSNBC and CNN.

Who gives a damn what Karl Rove says? How accurate was his 2006 map when he claimed the math was on his side? He’s nothing when he cant dictate political races by playing to the biggotry of his electorate (circa WV and SC 2000) and McCain having a black baby. Karl Rove is a major reason why the political process has reached the heights of uglinees it has. His math will be just as accurate come November as it was 2006.

jp,michigan – Your electoral votes are imaginary since they aren’t given until November. Your popular count is wrong also, where did you get your totals?

Rove!! Now there’s a man I trust. He gave me eight ungodly years of charming zero. Point is, if Rove says one thing, the opposite is what’s really bothering him: Obama.

I’m voting for Obama. I just got my section 8 approved last week and I’ve been getting food stamps for 4 months now. The only thing I need to live a work (and stress) free life is free healthcare. Obama’s plan gives the most benefits for the least cost (zero). He da man! Obama ’08!!!

7 years of the bungling Bush’s destruction of America is Karl Rove’s calling card? lol
Helping to elect the lost President of 911 is Karl Roves calling card?
Karl Rove is a bottom feeder.
Karl Rove represents the lowest kind of ‘human’ behavior: Win ugly and govern even uglier!
That is Karl Rove & Bush!
The classless Clintons tried the same slimy Karl Rove gutter politics.
And they are now walking around like zombies. The Karl Rove Klintons can’t even realize that IT IS OVER, HILARY!
Karl Rove and the Klintons have been banished by a more aware American electorate, who has a Law Professor guiding their thinking to a better America.
Karl Rove is just trying to be relevant, until he receives the subpoena from the US Congress for his White House illegalites.

Rove would say that Hillary has a better chance wouldn’t he? He WANTS Hillary running because he KNOWS the Republicans can have a field day with her and he knows that BITTER Hillary supporters are more likely to vote McCain just to SPITE the man that beat her.

The staying power of Senator Clinton is a message for all of us: she will work just as hard to get this country back on track as she has criss-crossing the nation to meet the voters.
She has the intellect, the experience and the will to lead this country and lift us from the depths of the last seven years. I am not a Rove fan but he is right in this instance. Hillary is the stronger candidate. USVet is right. Obama is unelectable. McCain is an honorable man – but think Supreme Court; Women’s rights – equal pay for equal work; Bush tax cuts to the wealthy.
It is unconscionable for the media and others to insist that Senator Clinton drop out. She is not a quitter. She will finish what she started and it will lead to the White House.

Rove gave Obama advice on how to win the Iowa primary (it was published in the Financial Times). He later gave Obama advice on how to win the Democratic nomination (it was in Newsweek). Rove knows Obama is a loser. Obama’s wife, Michelle has a big mouth. Her mouth together with Obama’s associations and past will sink the Democrats in November.
Can we say President McCain?

WELL PUT LESS!

Oh please – has ABC no ability to evaluate the newsworthiness of what they call news?? I’m sure Karl Rove has no ulterior motive for wanting to push Hillary as the candidate. Everyone knows nothing would better unite the Republican Party than Clinton as our nominee.

OREGON VOTERS LISTEN UP obama thinks the Great Lakes are in Oregon..You can tell that he really cares about your state. Oregon Voters beware of Obama!
Vote smart vote HILLARY

Sam, Obama got America confused with the muslim states he supports.

Clinton and McCain supporters can do nothing but spew fear and garbage to bully people into voting for their candidates. It is really a shame, and not going to work very well come November. Obama is going win in a landslide because he’s the only candidate that has common sense, and the American people can see it clearly.

He claims he had a hummble begging. lets see. He was raised a muslim until he was four, then he went to the best private schools in the united states. His grandmother was a wealthy white woman who paid for his expensive schools, and yet he calls her a racist.

OF COURSE ROVE WANTS CLINTON!!!
People these are the Republicans, what do you think they are going to say?? We want to run against Obama knowing he is going to crush McCain??
The Republicans know Hillary has such high negatives and with all the baggage and the SNIPER FIRE lies, they can beat her with their eyes closed!!
Who had a ralley in Oregon with 75,000 people in attendance yesterday?
Who had a rally in somebody’s backyard in Kentucky yesterday begging for money?
PLEASE LOOK AT WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM AND GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Obama 08!

Why do people keep alluding to karl rove? hes a sleaze and a disgrace to politics. the way he ran the bush campaign has left a horrible taste in the mouths of america. Karl rove can say nothing to me that will ever warrant some credibility. Isnt he supposed to be arrested by now

Well that is an endorsement I think any Democrat would question.
Why would Rove be attacking Obama while saying that Hillary is a stronger candidate? These guys have been going after Obama for a couple of months now while ignoring Clinton.
You don’t think there might be a little spin here do you?
Obama08

For the first time in MY life, I’m proud that America is handing Dems defeat the one time it actually looked like an automatic win.. NoBama ’08.

How does “what Rove wants” affect the average of polls?
Look at the data. If there’s something factually wrong or misleading about it, say so.

Janette,
You have to get over this, Hillary is running on fumes now. She was begging for money in somebody’s back yard in Kentucky yesterday. She is done…
Obama is flush with cash and holding rallys with 75,000 people attending!
I guess you just can’t gauge the mood in the country very well, people are ready for a change and they do not want 4 more years of Bush…
Obama is going to change the color of all the states this fall and win in one of the biggest landslides this country has ever seen!
Like a Republican said this weekend, if the Republican name was on dog food they would be taking it off the shelves because nobody would be buying it…
President Obama in 2008 baby!

Hey WEST VIRGINIA DEM. I love what happened in WV last week. Your state is AWESOME! Obama lost WV by 41 points! love it!

Get the brother out of the race. He can’t win and the real dems know it!

ANGRY BLACK MAN, your statment is more proof that Obama is only there because the republican put him there to steal the nomination away from Hillary. McCain will destroy Obama if the dems cheat and give him the nomination. Vote smart Vote Hillary!

In the general election it will take grit to win.
Obama attracts a lot of people through star power, but he has been suspiciously silent on his ties to terrorists and palestinian movements. The Republicans are salavating at opportunity of exposing Barack and Michelle.
Hillary has horse power and the grit to go with it. In a slug fest Hillary will win because she knows the painful lesson of 2004. She has withstood the onslaught of Media hype.
Obama has already shown his emotional insecurity when attacked, and he hasn’t seen anything yet.

Hey WEST VIRGINIA DEM. I love what happened in WV last week. Your state is AWESOME! Obama lost WV by 41 points! love it!

I don’t think Rove is lying. Has anyone come out today to say that he is full of it? Obama is unelectable and the democrats may as well just face the fact that there will be a republican president next year, unless Hillary gets a miracle. Hillary is ahead in KY by 36 points and she has really closed the gap in Oregon. Unless there is a miracle, she won’t win Oregon, but the fact that the trend has been in her favor for the past two weeks in a state as liberal as Oregon ought to give the SD’s pause.

HEY DAVIS!
I am not a liar like you! There were 100,000 people in NY, manhattan at radio City and outside at April, 9th, 2008 to see Hillary & Bill Clinton and listen to Elton John!
People who went to the concert also paid tickets starting from $250 up to $2300 for fundraising donations!
Outside crowd was just standing out there to get a cahnce to see them!
If you do not belive google it!

Is this the same Karl Rove who said the Republicans would in BIG in congress in 2006. He is a great anti-predictor.

DL:
If B O should win the nomination, the world MIGHT blow up!!!!!
Be careful what you wish for!
Be Smart!
Vote for Hillary

I think stars in space have 21 crystals in them, with sacred geometry numbers 4031-718-29.
I think babies in Australia are in danger of bieng switched with a clone. They kill babies that glow in the dark. Start making a chain necklace with an I.D tag that cant be duplicated. It should lock tightly around the babies neck so you will know if she/he is a clone or not.

Sue:
Why would Hillary leave the race
if what you say is true?
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!

Mel,
I have a lot more for you besides the Sniper fire lie, believe me!
But I am still waiting for that link to the Bon Jovi concert lie…
I just figure anyone I mean anyone that could vote for a presidential candidate, that stands up in front of the cameras, 4 times and tells such a whopper of a sniper fire lie, must lack integrity! And you are sure proving it here!

Bush/ Cheney 08!!!
A vote for Hillary is a guaranteed win for McCain!

Davis!
Hillary can fill in more people now in NY if she hold a rally!
because since Rev Wright broke out and Hamas endorsment became an issue, despite of the superdelegates endorsments, Obama is loosing his butt to Hillary!
She is stronger than a month ago now!
Probably that is a fact for Ted Kennedy to have a stroke! democratic Part is for Obama but not the American people!

If you want 4 more years of Jimmy Carter vote for Obama.

92.9% chance Mr. Obama is the canidate according to Rassmussen today, President Obama will win and who cares what the felon karl rove thinks.

Rove should be in Jail…Prison

obama has won nothing, zero nada zilch , since the rev. – you can count nc if you want, but with only 26% of the white vote, obama proves he’s doa in the ge…
bo smells like dukakis

The real news is that London has launched its attack on Obama, in a number of news stories, typified by the Feb. 26 London Times story by James Bone and Dominic Kennedy, headlined “Mansion ‘Mistake’ Piles the Pressure on Barack Obama.” London, typified by Times owner Rupert Murdoch, has the file on Obama, and it has signaled that it is ready to pull the plug on him—but only after Obama has completed his final assignment: the elimination of Hillary Clinton from the Democratic Party.

It’s the map not the math. In addition to the popular vote, the electoral map shows Hillary with a cushion and Obama with a deficit. If you translate her wins in the primaries she has won 311 electoral votes to Obama’s 217.
Also:
She is ahead in the popular vote by 50,000 votes, counting Florida and Michigan which must be counted. She intends to continue to lead in the popular vote when June 3 comes around and everyone has voted.
This is hard data to ignore.

jlynne,
Powerful and I agree.
Hillary 08

The only thing Clinton will win is a trip back to Arkansas, or wherever she now lives. Her campaign is broke because she squandered some $30 million in contributions on a failed campaign. If Clinton cannot even run a campaign, how in the world is she going to run the country?! Give me a break. She needs to drop out tomorrow so that the party can unite behind Obama for November.

Yes, Eric, Obama is winning states like Washington, Iowa, and Oregon because of the powerful black vote and republican base in those states. You caught on; I’m glad we didn’t fool you.

Eric,
Clinton has a “failed campaign?” Then why are you even blogging for Obama. Hey, take a break, relax!! Did you know that if you count FL and MI, Hillary has 55% popular vote to Obama’s 45? Did you know that 8o% of Obama’s lead in the pledged delegate count is due to CAUCUSES, WHICH ARE HIGHLY SUSPECT IN THAT THEY DISADVANTAGE HER VOTER BASE?
Failed campaign, you say? Again. then sit back and relax. Oh, by the way, watch out for KY and PR. They will make your hair curl.

Tuesday Obama will try to steal the nomination in much the same way that Bush stole the 2000 election. He will declare victory when there is none.
He sees victory slipping away and is clinging to hope out of desperation.
His superdelegate endorsements have slowed to a trickle, if even that.
He is behind in the popular vote if we still value democracy and this is still a country made up of 50 states.
He wants to claim victory before the DNC Rules Committee meets on the 31st and recognizes the voters of FL and MI.
The inequity of the delegate system is being questioned, particularly with the involvement of Obama’s caucus thugs.
Most people are starting to see Obama can’t win the electoral votes, meaning he can’t win in November.
Most people are starting to see that Hillary won the big states, which are needed to win in November.
Most people are starting to see that Hillary has real plans for the economy, healthcare, and more. Not copies.
He will not have reached the 2209 delegates needed to declare victory or even the arbitrary figure of 2025 delegates.
He has pulled a lot of Chicago-style tricks during this primary, but I don’t think this one will work.
In the end good old-fashioned hard work, accomplishments, experience, knowledge, worldliness, maturity, good judgement, and the love of this country will prevail.
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PEACE & PROSPERITY

Let Obama play checkers with the evil dictator of Iran if he wants.
Let Hillary or McCain run the country.

Rove’s brain must be the size of a pea. For anyone who has a brain knows Hillary is a Republican Implant, aimed at destroying the Democratic Party! Hillary will be lucky to win her own seat back when it comes up for Re-Election.We also know alot of Republicans crossed over just to try and help Hillary Win, cause we all know McCain would beat Hillary.

Bill, NU,
You’re kidding me right? You get your news from FOX news? Ha, ha!
No self respecting Democrat would ever get their news from FOX. Of course they probably say she is winning, they and Karl Rove want her to win!
In case you haven’t heard FOX is in the tank for the Republicans, fool…
Rove and all the Republicans want Hillary to win, because they know they can crush her in the GE because she has so much baggage.
If by some miracle she was to pull this thing out of a nose dive for the ground, the McBush campaign would be playing that Sniper fire lie thing on a continuous loop all during the month of October, they wouldn’t even need an October surprise for her!!
I bet you heard Hillary is still got a chance to win right straight from Hannity, am I right??
Ha, ha, ha!!!!

I can’t believe that you are actually reporting this. Karl Rove, the Republican stratagist supreme, with his own maps put together by his own firm showing Clinton ahead. Give me a break. They will do or say anything to have their run against Clinton who they know they have a better chance of beating than Obama. This is so no news.

THe republicans know how to beat Hillary but they are afraid of BO. It is so funny to watch these guys politic for Hillary. Karl Rove needs to shut his mouth and thank God he isnot in prison

Clinton is fighting the wrong fight. Gosh, why can’t she figure that out. The current contest is for delegate votes!
The electorial map is gonna get shifted this year, just like it does every 16 years. Didn’t Obama tell y’all early on that he wasn’t gonna stand for dividing the country into red states and blue states? Pay attention!
Obama is taking the country by storm and we’ll all be the better for it!
Obama ’08!
(Just one more day to go)

Yeah, Rove’s just the guy I look to when I want to know what ISN’T going to happen in an upcoming election. Am I just high or isn’t Rove the guy who guaranteed the Republicans would win the last mid-term election…

Just heard on the news that Obama is in trouble in Oregon..seems like there is a turnaround in support! Whooppppppeeeee!

As much as I hated it, I had to have Bush as my president for 8 years. But, at least, he gets to get out at some point. That’s democracy. That’s something many nations don’t have, where a dictator had to be killed to get him out of power. God bless America.
The won’t vote Obama people I suspect they are not 80,000 strong nation wide. They can wait 8 years.

NOW do you believe Hillary is a Republican?! Geesh!!!
For Hillary: Rush, Rove, McCain (did you see SNL?)
For Obama: The people of the “United” States of America
Go Obama 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will burn my house down before I vote for Obama. If he somehow succeed in taking his B lack Liberation to the White House, along with his birds-of-the-same-feather gang of his “I make over $300,000 a year for being a PR person for a non-profit hospital” wife or Bill “I stomped on the American Flag in 2003″ Ayers and company, America will in DEEP DEEP trouble.
Congratualtions President McCain (in that case)!
Br en t

JENNIFER,
You will change your tune in November, when you realize that McBush has vowed to replace the two “liberal judges” on the Supreme Court (that will be retiring in the next 4 years) with the most conservative ones he can find. Also he has not only stated that, but also said there will be a litmus test – Guess what that will be??
If McCain gets in there you and all of your pro-choice girlfriends can say goodbye to Roe v Wade. Maybe your to young to know what this all means, so perhaps you might ask some women who had to get illegal abortions in the 1960′s and early 1970′s.
I think come November you and all your girlfriends will be standing in line to vote Democatic….

countallthevotes,
He is a Republican and he wants REPUBLICANS TO WIN! As such he wants the weaker candidate to run against! You believe his nonsense?
The one with the least money and the MOST baggage period! And that would be broke Hillary!!!
Her las big rally was yesterday in somebody’s backyard in Kentucky, where she was begging for more money…
When was the last time you heard Obama ask for money???

That Obama guy always makes me so sick. I’ve lost 10 lb. already by listening to his voice with that infamous “uh..uh…”. Gosh, that kills me! For anyone who hate his speeches and get annoyed by his disgusting voice, then you’d guaranteed to lose weight without spending a dime!

PRESIDENTIAL POLL
05/19/08…thewhitehouse.com
Averages (an average of 11 Major National Polls)05/19/08/
McCain vs Obama:
McCain: 43.6 Obama: 47.5 Other: 8.9
McCain vs Clinton:
McCain: 43.5 Clinton: 48 Other: 8.5

We can’t afford for the Supreme Court to go conservative and it’s more than just Roe v Wade. You can vote Obama out in 4 years but the justices are their for life. I would never vote for McCain for this very reason. We need to think ahead and just the next 4 years.

Davis, please provide support for your incorrect and stupid statement that Clinton added 1.8 trillion to the national debt. Can’t wait to see!!!

Rove has a good grasp of the obvious. If the delegates for the dem primaries were like the general election Clinton would be the winner. Why would people be surprised?

Stephanie and ChrisA have it right. Hillary puts Florida in play/wins it outright. O-wa-wa-wa didn’t want Florida’s votes to count. Hillary also wins Arkansas; the messiah doesn’t. Hillary is stronger than him in Ohio, where there are a lot of so-called “bitter and clingy” people. Then again, it’s a party tradition that the Dems choose the weaker candidate.

It’s not just a few women that will not support Obama, it’s men and women in large numbers. I know if Hillary loses, I’ll be cutting a check for as much as possible to John McCain the next day. I still think before the convention, super delegates will be finding out more about Mr. Obama.

pattydaggs you really need to get past the next 4 years. Like I said you can vote him out. But the Supreme Court has a major impact on this country and for you to think otherwise is just being naive. We can’t afford to have a conservative court.

Juan Esperanza is correct. You don’t need Karl Rove. There is no doubt Hillary runs stronger in key states like Florida and Ohio. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Rove -”Bush will be a great president.” Enough said!

GUESS WHAT? THE RACE ISN’T OVER!
GUESS WHAT? THE RACE ISN’T OVER!
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GUESS WHAT? THE RACE ISN’T OVER!
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GUESS WHAT? THE RACE ISN’T OVER!
GUESS WHAT? THE RACE ISN’T OVER!
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

you better believe it.
In addition to that, OBAMA has lost my and
11 of my friends votes.
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR MOVEON+OBAMA this fall! I am sick of this Dem. party!!

Hillary for McCain,
I am with you. If Obama is the nominee we in Mass will have T-Shirts:
Hillary Dems for McCain

DL:
You’re right!
Not only is “pattydaggs” enormously smart, she’s also extremely perceptive.
Obama’s state senatorial accomplishments were manufactured for him by Illinois Kingpicker Emil Jones.
In his final year in the senate he was handed bills which had been generated and worked on by other legistors to pass of as his own.. And B O did. And he returned the many favors with earmarks” .. Emil Jones was a beneficiary. Rezko was another.Even Michelle was a beneficiary when her employer was given a $1,000,000 grant!
Obama’s life story was manufactured by B O and presented to us in the guise of two semi-autobiographical novels,
That was all we knew about him when he decided to run for the presidency.
Since then we’ve had Obama’s laundry list of lies and too many “present” votes and a lot of questions seeking out the answers to a lot of murky problems.
Certainly you have questioned Hillary.
Certainly you are being nasty to McCain.
Why are you afraid to open your eyes to the R E A L Obama?
Are you afraid that if he got wet, he would sizzle and go up in smoke , like a witch?
Naah! that would be Michele!
Anyway,
Hillary just happens to be the best of our Candidates. Too bad you’re not open minded enough to acknowledge that!
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

And yet the king called Obama is about to be crowned. guess he will be like humpty dumpty. All the king horses and all the kings men cant help humpty dumpty win an election in the fall. Gosh. How disturbing that the one candidate than can pull it off has been written off by the media and the weaker one has been given a free pass into the fall. How painful this is!

countallthevotes, how did I promote myself as an authority on the Supreme Court. McCain has already said that he will nominate conservative judges. And with Stevens being 88 I’m sure he will be retiring this term. They are all getting up there. Right now the court is pretty much balanced but will easily go conservative with McCain. Dems can fight the nominations all they want but eventually one will go through. Just my opinion and why I will never vote for McCain.

Jake Tapper finally is making some sense. He has trashed Hillary and compare her with some crazy actor in a movie, that she always comes back no matter what.
well you egg head, see the map now and you know why!

THE ONLY REASONs B O has gotten as far as he has is because of the blindsided power of the press which has pushed for him like projectile vomit, and the broken values of the D N C.
Our votes are up for sale! Their purchase is bought to the delegate for whom the highest bidder… is the highest bidder.
What a Democratic way to vote!
Listen to the laughter emanating from all the monarchies and oligarchies and dictatorships of the world as they look up to us leaders of democracy!
Here is someone who will vote for
H I L L A R Y.
SHOULD THAT OPTION BE STOLEN FROM ME
I will vote for MCcain.
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

obama has won nothing, zero nada zilch , since the rev. wright you can ount ncarolina if
you want, but with only 26% of the white vote, obama proves he’s doa in the ge…
bo smells like dukakis kerry and gore – loser democrats… bo can’t win since rev wright

questioner, no, I think people in this country are tired of the Bush, Clintons dynasties. And don’t blame Obama’s popularity on the press. Half the country has voted for him because we are tired of these 2 dynasties.

I love how the presumption is that either Democrat “will give McCain the most trouble”. The truth is, EITHER one will destroy him in a landslide. I simply want to know why Karl Rove, who ALWAYS has an ulterior agenda, is so set on pitching Hillary as the stronger of the two versus McCain. He knows what will happen in an Obama – McCain matchup…and it won’t be pretty for the Q-Tip.

The DNC is selling what they call a 50 state strategy. So far Hillary clinton is the only one visiting all of the states. Either she has worked her butt off or bill or chelsea have been to the state. Either way, Hillary hasn’t “quit” like Obama has. Hillary Clinton went into black neighborhoods. Despite the odds in NC and Mississippi she still tried. Obama quit trying in Kentucky and West Virginia. Who do you want for a president? The one who fights, or the one who quits?

Erin, what are you scared of about social security? Bush has been president for 8 years and has he changed it yet? NO HE HASN’T. Has Roe vs Wade been overturned? NO IT HASN’T. The democrats only took over the house and senate about a year and a half ago. That left the republicans plenty of time to do whatever they wanted. They could care less about those issues. Those are just red herrings to bigger issues for them to slip past. While stupid far left liberals are busy playing with a ball of yarn the mosue is sneaking out the bask door. Obama will fall for it too. That is what experience counts for.

Obama will “believe” because he is a sucker. When he has a position of power and is told one thing and given another we’ll see just how wise he is about defeating real politics. The republican machine is not stupid. They managed to get Bush elected twice. A bunch of stupid people could not do that. If it was all part of Karl Roves plan to get Clinton nominated Obama would already be history. If anything I think they are using reverse psucholgoy to make the far left think Obama is tougher fight for Mccain. Remember how they used Bin Laden against Kerry. They said Bin Laden didn’t like Bush. That makes Americans defensive. Kinda like Hamas liking Obama. That makes the far left think they have a real chance at a peace maker. The way I see it, Jimmy Carter just returned from Hamas and the war in Iraq isn’t over yet. So Obamas cr*p isn’t going to do any better. If the republicans want you to think it will though, just so they can bash him down in the general, then it is really MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

America’s free press is only free to Obama.
We are treated to everything about him (except the truth) from the sounds of his two-faced speechifying on his Pastor Wright and wrong, to his very fart….. the sound heard round the world!
If I sound perturbed, you are perceptive.
It is like a blackout blanket has been thrown over anything accountable done by Hillary!
Between the DNC which puts its delegates up for sale, thus selling our votes to the highest bidder, and the (HAH!) free press, which predicated this travesty in favor of B O early on and just keeps running in the same direction without any thought or meaning, like a dog chasing it’s shadow as the sun goes down, only one candidate is being treated democratically.
There was a blog started last Thursday and lasting through yesterday about how perturbed women (and some men were regarding the sexist conduct unbefitting a candidate with which B O addresses professional women and “typical” women as well.
It was here at Political Punch and there were well over 1,000 posters. I was one but there are SOOO many more who felt/feel the same way about B O, beginning with his sanctimoniousness , unpreparedness and untrustworthiness and leading to the topic of how sexism equates with racism which, of course, is a no-no word.
It is criminal that our votes can be sold to the highest bidder.
It is a shame that the free press has lost it’s objectivity and is available only to ONE candidate.
It is unbelievable that you find it acceptable for two statesful of citizens to be stripped of their right to select the nominee of their choice.
The DNC and our free press no longer have anything to do with Democracy.
Should Hillary not be given the right to fairly complete this election because of the press’s blackout and the DNC’s continued sale of delegates….. November will find us with another Republican President!
Don’t test us; our country comes before the party!

I’m pretty familar with Karl Rove. He’s kind of a legend here in Texas. I can’t stand Bush and never voted for him.
The fact remains that Rove is a pretty good political analyst dating all the way back to Bush I….There is no scientific way to know exactly who will win an election, but on a state by state asis you can get some idea of who’s ahead. An averaging of polls rather than specific polls have been pretty good signposts in this election.
When Obama’s electability has been questioned it was never about race…It was about votes and the electoroal college.
McGovern, Dukakis and later Carter trying for a second term were examples of grassroots primaries that didn’t translate into electoral college victories. I understand that the media is caught up in the story, but they need to realize that so far the huge Obama crowds have not resulted in a significant amount of votes over Clinton.
If nothing else happens in this election Democrats must go to a winner take all primary system. That’s how you pick the strongest candidate.

I think the youth turnout for Obama will weaken in the fall. A big reason I credit his energy now is just spring fever for teenagers. When school starts back and they can’t be interns all fall because of heavy class loads I think a lot will change. Plus people will start to focus energy on things like football, thanksgiving and christmas. Especially the higher paid people and the kids from those families. I think if the democrats really want a solid base it always in the parties best interest to attract those who work for their living. Clinton already is a name brand product in those housholds. Obama is already an elitist in them. Lets get Clinton in there before it is too late.

I’m not sure how old you are, but I am old enough to have marched in the 1960′s for civil rights. I have always been strongly opposed to racism, in any form. Before Obama came on the scene, I had no knowledge of his religion, black liberation theology. When I first heard about it, I decided to research the issue (research is a large part of the profession I am in). What I found out disturbed me greatly. Rev. Wright, who Obama has acknowledged as his “mentor and spiritual adviser” for 20 years, preaches black liberation theology. Rev. Wright also acknowledges that his theological mentor is James H. Cone (both of these admissions are on the church’s website. I obtained several of the most well-known books by James H. Cone, and read them. Once I did, I saw the rants of Rev. Wright in a different light. These rants were not the exception to the rule, in Obama’s church, they were consistent with the racist theology to which Rev. Wright and Obama subscribe. Here are just a few quotes from Cone’s books, and you can be the judge as to whether or not you consider them to be disturbing. ******* (1) “To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people.” (2) “While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism.” (3) “All white men are responsible for white oppression.” (4) “Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man “the devil.” (5) “If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it.” (6) “Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.” *****
Here is an excerpt from the Southern Poverty Law Center website about Active U.S. Black Separatist Hate Groups: “Black separatists typically oppose integration and racial intermarriage, and they want separate institutions — or even a separate nation — for blacks. Most forms of black separatism are strongly anti-white and anti-Semitic, and a number of religious versions assert that blacks — not Jews — are the Biblical “chosen people” of God.” ******
Does this remind anyone of Rev. Wright’s depiction of the “black Jesus” who is murdered by “the white man?” ******
It is axiomatic that if I had attended a white racist church for 20 years, and considered its white racist pastor to be my “mentor and spiritual adviser,” it would not be unreasonable to assume that I am a racist. Likewise, if one attends a racist black liberation theology church for 20 years, like Obama did, it is not unreasonable to assume that he is a racist.

‘Come on Bill, NU,
Those 100,000 people at the “Elton John” concert weren’t there to see Hillary pal…”"
that happened to be a fund raiser for Hillary….. ;-)
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

If it is so obvious that Clinton would win in the general election and Obama wouldn’t, why does Rush Limbaugh call for Republicans to vote for Clinton in the general election. Wouldn’t he want to face the weaker candidate?

Obama is going to lose badly to McCain.
My bet is these predicitons do not take into acocunt the mass exodus of Moderate Democrats either.

Interesting Rove’s analysis. I had Rove stereotyped until quite recently as a sinister and manipulative figure behind the scenes orchestrator of Geo. Bush’s re-election. And he may still be all of the above.
However, his “genius” when it comes to political analysis is undeniable. Hillary does have the electoral map and even if one were to only exclude the “caucus system” in determining the winner of delegates, the whole picture would be a lot different. Much of Obama’s delegate lead and popular vote have come from “caucus states” and many of those “caucus” states are traditional “red” states that will never vote for any democrat come November.
I live in one of those “red”, “caucus” states – Kansas – which will be voting for McCain, come November. The last time Kansans chose a democratic nominee for president was 1964 and that was a “sympathy vote” because JFK was assassinated in 1963.
Hillary – on the other hand has won most of the “big blue” states that any democratic nominee must carry and she has done well in many “swing states” that a democratic candidate will need in their column.
For those who think Obama is going to turn all those “traditional red” states “blue”, I would say prior to revelations about Rev. Wright, Rezko, Ayers, etc., Obama’s own “bitter” comments, his wife’s divisive and nasty comments, there was a chance. Now that chance has evaporated.
As for me, I’m no republican. I’ve been a life-long democrat and have always voted democrat since I was old enough to vote. I’m now 60 years old. However this year, if Obama gets the dem. nomination, it might be the first time in my life I vote republican.
The DNC and the Obama campaign think they can bring around Hillary supporters because they say so. How ridiculous! Clinton, her family, her supporters are “savaged” by Obama advisers, supporters, and many in the MSM and then we are just supposed to overlook that this has happened. (Never mind the suppression of votes in Michigan and Florida. Don’t think for a moment that voters from those 2 states are going to buy the “party line” about breaking the DNC rules come November if Obama gets the nomination without their votes being fairly counted.)
But I still believe Hillary Clinton is the best person to lead this country and she will prevail because the democratic primary voters are saying over and over again that she is “the one they have been waiting for.”

The last thing a scoundrel can do for his party that desperately needs to lose for its own sake and that of the country is mock up some bogus analysis and pretend Clinton is stronger against McCain so that the GOP can coalesce and continue its ill-fated alliance with the Christian Right. This man has no credibility. The emperor has no clothes.

Hillary Clinton quoting Karl Rove to support her candidacy! What a hoot! She’s REALLY running on empty!

Rove is a McCain advisor. I wonder how accurate these numbers are? I think somebody is betting on his dog in the fight. McCain? Can you say dis-information project?

And we all believe Karl Rove. Don’t we? Lol.

The Republicans don’t know how to do anything but question patriotism, even though they’re a party of draft dodgers and their record is one of complete destructiveness toward America. They KNOW they have nothing to run on except smears and phony issues, For the last 14 years of ruling Congress and 8 years of ruling the White House they have ruined the country in many ways. And now the dirt has hit the fan and they have nothing to run on. So the McCain plan of attack is to make Obama look like an Arab-Islamist sympathizer and an appeaser of terrorist groups. You can bet we have seen only a small foreshadowing of how big this smear campaign is going to become.
But, in these hard times for America.instead of putting us back on track as they should, what do they do? They launch diversionary attacks laced with low-down slander.
On the contrary, it is Republicans who SHOULD be held accountable for their essential lack of patriotism and their gross dishonesty. In the end, their leaders have to be judged for inheriting the world’s only superpower — economically, militarily and morally — and making a disastrous mess of things with their abuse of power. What did Ronald Reagan used to ask? “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” How about eight years ago?
The fact is: Republicans deserve to lose. And they may have another think coming if they try to defeat Democrats by substituting scurrilous slander as a way to get voters to forget their super-failures. This overly self-congratulatory, arrogant GOP party fails to understand the deep-seated ANGER AND ANTIPATHY of a vast majority of average eople toward their bad President, his war, the high gas prices, the bad economy, foreclosures and roadblocking of reasonable reforms. The GOP if it were smart, would ‘cut the crap’ and ‘burn the Bush’…that is, if they want to avoid a bloodbath in November, but they appear to be too blind and stupid to do that.. They deserve to lose, and I hope they do.

Anyone who gives credance to anything Rove says is making a mistake. The credibility ABC gives Rove reflects on the credibility of ABC.

Obama is the better candidate for the democrats since he won the most delegates and popular vote unless you consider Hillary’s fuzzy math of giving Obama no votes in Michigan and caucus states. The only way she can win would be for the superdelegates to overrule the voice of the people. But then many Obama supporters would stay home and she would have less of a chance of winning than Obama. Hillary may have been the better choice if the electorate chose her, but they didn’t and its too late.

To the poster who said, ‘you may not like Rove, but he is a political genius’. Yeah, right. Look at the results of the 2006 election that he directed. He lost control of the both the House and Senate. Rove has been exposed and he is a loser.

i think the reason sen. clinton is the stronger against mccain is because she is the smarter of the three on the issues.
sen. clinton CAN articulate the difference in how the dem. will take the country in the better direction than mccain and co. obama CANNOT do that.
obama cannot talk without a prepared
speech.
if sen. clinton is not at the top of the dem party ticket,
the only people to blame for whatever a mccain presidency brings are the democratic party leaders.

IT IS A FACT she is, not a tactic, reality. Why should we nominate a straw man who will be knocked down. Then, we have only ONE CHOICE.
NO OBAMA.

IT IS A FACT she is, not a tactic, reality. Why should we nominate a straw man who will be knocked down. Then, we have only ONE CHOICE.
NO OBAMA.

The saddest part about this election is that the media and many in this country got on the emotional Obama wave and it derailed Hillary Clinton, the only real chance we had at retaking the White House. I’m an African American and I don’t believe Obama will be elected for one minute! He’s inexperienced, has no substance and is too soft. We just gave the nomination back to the Republicans, because when the WHOLE, ENTIRE country gets ready to decide and sees Obama they will see a black man. When they see McCain they will see a white man…Who do you think the country is going to choose?
….food for thought

McCain may not live until November and most certainly won’t receive the convention bounce Obama will see.

Obama is gonna crush McCain in the general and Rove knows it. The only hope he has is to promote as much as possible a split in the Democratic Party that lingers into November. Which is why we see so many republicans posing as democrats on the internet spewing division and misinformation. Ain’t gonna work this time, but hey evil is as evil does so I guess you got to fulfill your nature, right?
PS US Vet: counties with military bases have voted overwhelmingly for Obama. I think yer out of step with your fellow vets.

SO MANNY OF YOU KEEP FORGETING, HOW MANNY PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR BHO,HAVE REMORSE AFTER FINDING OUT WHAT HE IS! THAT MEANS THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM IN THE GE! NO MATTER WHAT,GO HRC OR INDEPENDANT 08

Maybe it is time to split off and form a really viable 3rd party with Hillary Clinton as our candidate. With her solid numbers plus the moderate Republican vote she might put together a coalition similar to Ronald Regan. I for one am really having a hard time supporting the ultra left DNC and the ultra right RNC. We need a REAL 3rd party. Come on people! GO HILLARY!!!

Either of the Democrats should be able to see off John ‘More of the FAILED Same’ McCain.
I’m a Blue Dog and I’ll be doing whatever I can to make sure that the failed reactionary party of American politics will not win by their usual tricks of smear and fear.
Sen. Obama is a pragmatic progressive, not a radical leftist. Furthermore, the rantings of Rev. Wright are not reflective of Obama’s views on anything. Nor can Obama be blamed for receiving unwanted and unsought ‘endorsements’.
Given how close the two Democrats are on the issues, there is no reason why supporters of the losing candidate shouldn’t support the party’s presidential nominee.
Sen. Obama has had the kitchen sink thrown at him in recent weeks and he has responded with grace, candor and dignity.

To All Hillary supporters,
The DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee is meeting on May 31 to make a decision about Florida and Michigan. Send a message to the DNC telling them to count the votes and seat Florida and Michigan’s delegates.
Please help to spread this message to everyone you know. Thanks

Dear Fellow Democrats. Regardless of who the Democratic nominee will be, WE MUST UNITE. The next president will make very important choices. Obama and Hillary are inches apart; but they are both miles apart from McCain. THE NEXT PRESIDENT COULD APPOINT AS MANY AS THREE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. These are appointments for LIFE, and they will radically affect us. The Supreme Court is who has given us women rights and who has given Blacks rights (as well as allowing us freedom of choice and basic civil rights). If you do not believe me, find out for yourself what these new appointments will mean to you. Please do not get mad if your candidate does not win. Instead, think. Think about what your vote will mean to you, your children, each other, and the planet. VOTE DEMOCRATIC. We cannot withstand another four years with McBush!

I can not afford another McBush…I simply CAN NOT. McCain is not only continuing Bush’s policy, but he is got anger problem. I am afraid he might use nuclear bomb, he is got soft skin. People who work with him know this fact! I cannot let angry person in the white house.

Karl Rove is the last advisor the Democratic Party would want. Anything he says, believe the opposite.

I knew it had to be Rove that’s been egging Hillary on; talk about dirty tacts why else would she win certain areas that are Republican dominated according to certain study groups; sure isn’t independents, and what about the tracking polls (people say anything and everything against what they do, I know of some in New Hampshire –Lindbaugh’s law of confusion and Roves tactics just may come back and bite them — especially noticeable in Pa, where you could vote and then change back to Republican all at the same time.
Wonder what happens when all these Republicans who voted democratic in the primary decide to stick with the winners and give Obama the vote!! Yes, He Can!!

So…if McCain wins the GE, he will have a heavily Dem congress to work with. With a Dem quorum, he’ll have to “cross the aisle.” He’s not averse to that anyway.
If Hillary heads the Dem ballot in the GE, I vote for her. That would ensure practical changes as quick as possible and the restoration and advancement of the programs and issues I care about. Best option.
If the Dems don’t have the brains and foresight to run with her, then why should I not go with McCain? The prospect of such a junior politician as NObama handed that much power on a plate is far scarier than his JM’s temper.

Anybody who looks at this( legitimate) data, notices what many of us have intuitively sensed, that as the racial and gender-based polarization of this race has heightened, Appalachian and Rust Belt whites have run from Obama, probably because of the patriotism/Wright questions, and older white women have continued to flock to Hillary, because she’s an older white woman whith a legitimate shot at the presidency; note the difference in anti-Obama versus pro-Hillary motivations. The reason her numbers have shot up in Florida and Ohio is that those two aforementioned groups of voters who have shifted, who were previously 1) mostly McCain supporters (whites) or 2) mostly undecided (women) since March are now saying that they’ll vote for Hillary in November, but will continue to be undecided or for McCain if it’s McCain vs. Obama. The question I have is, how many of those whitesd who were previously McCain supporters but are now “pro-Hillary” will go back to McCain if Hillary were to win the nomination? If that were to happen, say goodbye to Ohio and West Virginia, Hillary supporters. And she never had a chance in Colorado or North Dakota or Virginia or Iowa, so she doesn’t have anything to fall back on if she loses Ohio or Michigan, unlike Obama.

this country has never had a black president and i believe this scares people, for only a white person has ever set in the white house. what gives white people the right to make decisions for the entire world, as if they are the only ones with any sense. when will everyones vote truly count. why all of the negative remarks about Senator Obama, this man has layed his life on the line for americans just by running for the presidency, why cant white america give him the benefit of the doubt, i believe he would make a great leader. what would surely guarantee the democrats the white house would be Obama/Clinton ticket. They both have had record breaking turnout to vote in these primaries.a lot of people say it wouldnt work,but i say if they truly love america and its people they would make it work

Obama has a huge electoral problem, and anyone that thinks he is going to win Virginia (much less NC or Indiana) is nuts. McCain will sweep the south without even trying- not having to bother campaigning in Florida will allow him to concentrate on places like Ohio and Nevada, as well as try to pick off Wisconsin and NM. Obama HAS to play defense in those places (particuarly the West) and then HAS to either sweep them or take Ohio (which McCain has a nice lead in). If Obama takes the advice i see here and tries to go on the offensive by winning in the South, McCain is going to win in a walkover.

Obama’s supporters assume if you’re not in the tank for their guy, it’s because of some latent racist motivation. His race is not the problem. It’s his lack of a record. I’m interested in some demonstrated competence in actually governing. Is that too much to ask? Obama speaks of a “post partisan” and “post racial” future. What’s that mean? Has Obama been a hardworking senator willing to take risks and give others credit to get things accomplished? No. Has he been working on projects and proposals to bridge the racial divide in this country? No. Has he done anything with his time in office other than run for President? No. Those are the reasons I will never support Obama for President. Not because I’m a racist, not because I’m a Republican (I’ve never cast a vote in my life for anyone with an (R) next to their name), and not because I’m just a bitter Hillary supporter. I’m only interested in competence and Obama can’t demonstrate he’s able to competently run the federal government.

One major thing to consider re those fence sitters. Will they want a right wing Supreme Court or one that keeps Roe vs. Wade, etc I think when push comes to shove they will realize that they can’t afford having a right wing president make the next 1 – 3 Supreme Court appointments.