Webb: Affirmative Action Behind Obama Woes

if u r white and don’t like obama you must be a racist…
oly 92% of blacks vote for obama – r they racist?

Webb is right. Affirmative action as it currently exists, doesn’t address the socio-economic disparities in this country. It needs to be completely overhauled and should no longer be based on race, but on economic status. Will this happen under an Obama presidency? From what I’ve heard so far, I don’t think so and I believe that is a huge concern for many working class Americans regardless of race – hence the limited support for Obama among this demographic group. I hope Obama proves me wrong if he is the next president.

If you can recall, when the SD congressman will show up in the TV to say something. Basically before SD, VA and ND. What is the reason?

Hope,
You want us to stop voting against our own interests?
Well, I’m a woman and I’m white, so I guess voting for Hillary would be voting my own interest.
Is this what you meant?!

hmmm.. affirmative action for poor whites… that’s an interesting idea…

Affirmative Action is for the birds. Mostly crows. Anyone that is not handicapped can make thier way if they try hard enough.

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. John Kennedy said that. Obama refers to kennedy some times but apparently don’t agree with his philosophy.

Patriot:
Obama won the list states are lots of caucus, not the full will of state people. Some other states are the most populations of AAs.

The dirt poo and undereducated whites of Appalachia are complaining and green with envy about ‘affirmative action’???
Were the dirt poor whites of Appalachia enslaved and disenfranchised for generations in America? lol
Or are the poor whites of Appalachia just too dang lazy to take advantaged of centuries-old opportunities FOR WHITES ONLY?
For centuries, the FREE AND UNFETTERED whites of Appalachia had ALL the opportunities available in America to whites ONLY!
For centuries, there has been NATIONAL CRIME against African people in America, which denied them opportunities for generations!
The whites of Appalachia have ALWAYS BEEN FREE to partake of America’s unlimited opportunities. So why are the whites of Appalachia so dirt poor and backward?

You are describing the working class that vote for Hillary so you must be an eletist that is voting for Obama.

There is racial discrimination in this country against the white now. Affirmative action is denying qualified white to college and many more.
Time for affirmative action for the white and poor and not for the rich and black.

Blacks voting for Obama is clearly different because blacks have voted for whites for decades now and would do so again if one were the nominee.
(In fact blacks didn’t come out in droves for Obama until it looked like he could win.)
Alot of whites voting for Hillary wouldn’t vote for any black person at all and those are just the stats from the ones who owned up to it.
The former is simply voting for the one that emobodies your hopes and dreams and could win.
The other is racist.

Patriot, what you said about Appalachia is why white working class people will not vote for Obama. Get it.

Patriot:
You still do not understand, Obama is a totally empty suit. He will do nothing. He even worsens the situation.

Hillary is the better candidate to do the job because she is more experienced and a fighter, which a president has to be to get the job done.

Anders Scooper
| May 21, 2008 7:57:20 PM
Those Appalachians who will not vote for Obama have grown accustomed to misery and hopelessness. Those who will vote for Obama aren’t too far gone.
Those Appalachians who will continue to vote for liars and deceivers, will continue to see the country ruined, while the 1.3 BILLION Chinese continue to forge ahead of the US!

Reason Obama is ahead is that he won big in 15 states. Why are those states not important like West Virginia? I found this chart that sums it up:
Barack Obama: 15 States + DC
Compare
Obama 15 “Blowouts”!
* Virgin Islands (89.9%)
* Idaho (79%)
* Hawaii (76%)
* Alaska (75%)
* District of Columbia (75%)
* Kansas (74%)
* Washington (68%)
* Nebraska (68%)
* Minnesota (67%)
* Colorado (67%)
* Georgia (67%)
* Illinois (65%)
* Virginia (64%)
* Maryland (62%)
* North Dakota (61%)
* Wyoming (61%)
* Mississippi (61%)
Hillary Clinton: 3 States
* Arkansas (70%)
* West Virginia (67)
* Kentucky (65)

elen, Hillary won the white working vote in Oregon.

Patriot,
“Obama is the ONLY candidate who would finally lift up the whites of Appalachia; but they are showing that they love their lives of racist misery! So sad.”
Well said. Hillary is asking the poor to pay off her campaign debt plus the interest while she’s got $109 mil to fall back on. Should she win, more money for her MANDATORY healthcare plan will come out of their paychecks (if they work) and mine. These people seem to prefer to cling to their “whiteness”, they’re “femininity” and their other prejudices against all those people who stole their jobs because of “affirmative action” instead of getting off their lazy arses and researching a candidates plan — FOR THEM and others WHO ARE JUST LIKE THEM.
Sad, but I’m hoping for a change in them because they are holding the rest of the country back.
Obama ’08!

I am black, scored highest at my entrance test sitting to enter college, earned two degrees with honors, while married to an abusive drunk and raising 3 children and never even applied for a scholarship, race-based or otherwise.
Despite the complaints focused on racial minorities, I see that we’re not the only folks that need to quit complaining, get off our asses, get some education, and get some sustainable jobs.

jdona,
what are your reasons for voting hillary first, mccain second? w/o any reasons, people draw their own conclusions. limbaugh used to say that blacks voted for obama but couldn’t tell you why and i knew that to be untrue. maybe you can enlighten obama supporters about your choice.
Obama ’08!

Hope:
1. He joined and remained active in a church where racism and anti-American hate is routinely preached. He and his family attended, and heavily contributed for about 20 years. This has received worldwide attention, as show in the link below.
Ten Must-See Videos from The Times Online
Obama first claimed not to know about Wright’s inflammatory statements. He later admitted he did.
CBS News
Flip-Flip Video
CBS News
OOPS… didn’t notice. Or else he forgot.
Rev Wright, one of the ministers, even promoted Obama and denigrated Hillary Clinton from the pulpit spurring an IRS investigation as to the validity of their non-profit status. The Obama campaign is also reported to have campaigned on at least one occasion at church events, furthering the curiosity of the IRS.
WCBS TV
Obama Speech at General Synod of the United Church of Christ
But, OOPS… he didn’t know. Or didn’t mind.
2. Senator Obama bought stock in two companies whose investors included his 2004 campaign political donors. One, in fact, was developing medicine to treat avian flu — with the stock purchase coming right before Obama introduced legislation to increase funding to combat the virus.
The other company, SkyTerra, received government permission to build a national wireless network on the day Obama purchased his shares. Among the principal owners of this business were four people who had raised more than $150,000 for Obama. Attorney Obama claimed later that they were in a semi-blind trust, that just didn’t legally work out. When this became public, Obama sold the stock.
Chicago Sun-Times
New York Times
Oops… he didn’t know. Or didn’t he mind?
3. Senator Obama came into politics through the famously corrupt Chicago political machine, with the help of some of the slimiest characters imaginable. (Several major players who helped him are have been indicted for graft, fraud, etc. Obama now keeps a rep at Rezko’s trial every day to monitor testimony.) Obama has had to donate to charity much of the money they gave him to get his start, though the admitted dollar amount keeps increasing as time goes on. It’s now up over $250,000. Tony Rezko, currently at trial on federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud, was also involved in the purchase of Obama’s home at well below market value.
Huffington Post
Chicago Sun-Times
New York Times
Not so well publicized is the fact that Obama wrote letters to the Illinois Dept of Housing, recommending Rezco’s company, North Kenwood, LLC, for the housing projects that soon became slums, causing inhumane hardship for their residents.
Obama Letters
These slums, later repossessed, were in Obama’s district while he was an Illinois senator. In fact, some are about a mile from his home, and several are still boarded up. Obama professed to be unaware of any problems. During the Democratic debate on January 21, 2008, Obama, in fact, gave the impression that he had merely done about 5 hours of legal work for “this individual.”
The Rezko Foreclosed Properties
telegraph.co.uk
No Quarter
Rezko Watch
Chicago Tribune: Almost Believable
OOPS… he didn’t know. Or did he care?

ENOUGH about racism lets talk about patriotism! It has nothing to do with his color, its where his heart is. It is NOT with America. He is a fake. Wake up and spit out the kool aid!
Rixter said it best”I do NOT vote for Obama is not because he is black, is because he is inexperienced and unqualified, his associations are dangerous to US”.

wow, another race card from Webb and the Obamanuts. You left wingers are the laughingstock of this country. People get a kick out of Obama and Wright and Farrakan and Hamas and that whole Chicago Marxist crowd.
And you think we need a reason not to vote for that wild mess? You people are nuts.
I got an email from Howard Dean today. Wanted me to sign a petition complaining about McCain’s lobbysists. Why did I get it? Because I entered a form on their website telling them I’m gone from the Democratic Party if they want to go down with Obama once again, after McGovern, Carter (Obama gave the same papa talk to the children as Carter did, Carter wnet down to Reagan about as bad as Obama will go down to McCain), Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry.
You Obama people are a bunch of left wing radicals. I’ll show myself out. It will be a wipeout of you liberals yet again.
Hillary ’08

In 2 weeks all will be fine with the Democratic Party. Hillary will bow out gracefully and urge her supporters to support Obama because the alternative would be bush-3. That would be unacceptable to everyone that is now paying $4.00/gallon gas, having trouble paying health-care, and for all those brave soldiers that have been fighting a war that should have been avoided. Obama 2008!!!

The biggest winners in Affirmative Action have always been white women…yet the folks who only see things in black and white always pin their misery on the handiest scapegoat. This time it’s Affirmative Action….right on schedule. Good to know those folks are still so predictable.

In your dreams, pt. On to the convention to seat Florida and Michigan, as they voted.
If the SD’s still want to go with Obama at that point, Obama’s delegate lead from black and red states instead of Hillary’s popular vote lead from bue and swing states, that’s fine, but we won’t be joining you. Be a major exit from the Dem Party where you guys can start anew, starting with the traditional Democratic defeat in November.
The day we vote in Chicago machine Marxists into the White House is a day that won’t happen.
Now, by the same token, I also realize that Obama supporters aren’t going to vote with us for Hillary, so I’m basically writing off the Democratic Party as viable. We’ll have to have a moderate third party where Clinton Dems and Reagan Dems and independents can select a candidate that can win.
Hillary ’08

kerry,
we obviously have different issues that we vote on. there is a lot of slime out there on each of the candidates. i vote my paycheck and ability to provide for my family. none of the issues you mentioned affect my household income.
i try not to discriminate against people based on what church they go to or their religious beliefs. i don’t believe wright’s words were racist — almost every word i heard was true. regarding the stock, unless obama broke a securities law, his trading is irrelevant.
i could smear clinton, too, but i’ve gotta go. thanks for your reasons. i now know more today than yesterday.
Obama ’08!

(referring to all women, not just white women, although they were the biggest winners)

I feel like Iam going trough a divorce and were fighting for the kids and it is going to go on for years and right now I am still in the rage mode the spite mode is when I punch the Mccain botton for president we were set up by dean and gang the media was harsh to Hillary and now all the women backing her are really pissed.

Pelosi said on PBS this afternoon news,
that the votes do not count on primaries
and caucuses,only delegates.
Really?????????????????
If my vote doesn’t count,then what’s
the purpose of voting?????I don’t get it
Pelosi……..
I wonder why after 7 pm on primaries in my home state
blacks flooded the precincts to be
a delegate.
I went to be a delegate for Hillary but it was
impossible to get in.Fight broke out
with blacks and i left.Hillary won the
popular vote but
Obama got more delegates……..
Fraud,Fraud,Fraud…….
My pledge to DNC.I will not vote
democrat if Obama is on the ticket
…..and millions like me.

ChayaFradle, unfortunately it’s not iteresting, it’s crap. It’s yet another race card, the only thing we get from Obamanuts.
rd

Patriot – Hey I admire your passion but trust me, the world will not end if McCain is president. Your own candidate accuses the others of fear mongering and that’s what you are doing. Relax, take a deep breath. You make some good points and then you ruin them with all the other ranting. Washington isn’t going to “change” – not with Clinton, or Obama or McCain. That’s not pessimism, just reality.

I think KY and WV are just common sense people who tell people the way it is and the way it is….CLINTON. I think if Obama were white, they still wouldn’t vote for him. They don’t know him and what they do know they don’t like. Anti Hillary people are the same way.

Leroy:
you doth protest too much. more white people vote for Obama than black people, more white people vote for him than don’t. Some who don’t vote for him don’t like his politics. Some think he isn’t experienced enough. Some prefer other candidates for reasons that have nothing to do with Obama, per se. Some people won’t vote for a person of a different race, no matter what their resume or politics. I’d think of those people as narrow minded and short sighted. This article is not about racism. Webb actually argued that white people in appalachia who so far are not voting in large numbers for Obama are not doing so out of racism. Webb argues that they don’t know Obama as well as they know the Clinton brand name. He also argues that Obama can win these voters over, by addressing their economic concerns and spending time in the region making his case.
Obama is not a racist and his supporters by and large are not racists.They are Americans who think the country is going in the wrong direction and needs a change in the way its politics work.

OMENTUM/…. YEAH RIGHT LIKE I BELIEVE YOU ARE AN AFRICAN/AMERICAN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? “Ya’ll is mad stupid”.

tim wise “whites got affirmative actions in the usa for 300 years”

Do any of you “educated” Obama supporters know the history of Appalachia or anything at all about Appalachian culture? Is John Gaventa’s Power and Powerlessness: Quiescence and Rebellion in an Appalachian Valley still required reading in college? If not, how about Daniel Elazar’s American Federalism? The people stereotyping Appalachians without knowing a thing about them or there history are just like the people who stereotyped Reverend Wright and his church without knowing a thing about it or its history.
Try looking at http://academic.regis.edu/jriley/421elazar.htm for an explanation of why the results in KY and OR are so different.

Obama won all delegates by fraud.
In states with only caucuses blacks
and activists flooded the precincts
to be a delegate.Whites didn’t get any
change.
The whole process is fraud.
My pledge to DNC.
If Hussein Obama is on the ticket,
I WILL NOT vote democrat.

Over half of U.S. prisoners are black and hispanic and the vast majority of CEOs are white. Thats the real “affirmative action” at work. Until we whites recognize how our status is built on de facto hiring preferences and social and cultural advantages we will continue to “blame the victims” of our unhappy system.

Affirmative action has always been irreparably flawed. Rather than a system based on merit, skill, or accomplishment, affirmative action is based exclusively on biological characteristics.
The original premise was good- that a system needed to be created to provide opportunities for individuals who had previously been denied entrée to those opportunities. The resultant practice of affirmative action, however, became unconditional entitlement for specific individuals based on biology (in most cases, race). Biological entitlement became a substitute and a replacement for merit, skill, and accomplishment, which is why the system of affirmative action is so profoundly flawed. The current system disadvantages other, and in some cases, more qualified individuals who don’t meet the biological requirements of affirmative action.
Rather than initiate a more equitable system that includes biological factors as well as requisite skills and accomplishments, affirmative action in it’s current flawed form remains the standard in virtually every public and private institution.
This presidential race is no exception. Rather than nominate the Democratic candidate with the necessary experience and skills, biology takes precedence. As in the affirmative action tradition, “hope ‘n change” has become more important than demonstrated legislative, administrative, and foreign policy acumen.

Patriot
You have to be a closet Hillary supporter with all that arrant nonsense about Harvard-educated Obama sorting us out with the 1.3 billion Chinese.
Mr Affirmative Action couldn’t even get the number of states in the union correct; also, he was waffling on recently about transferring arabic translators from Iraq to Afghanistan. Duh.
And, yes, I’ve had my PhD for decades.

You are right, blog. As a masters degree educated poor white Irish trash from Boston, I stand in no better stead, in fact, let me correct that, I am looked upon as a Wigger when I apply for a job. Any black person who can spell their name gets a job over a white guy like me. In fact, being a bit over 50 now, I might as well be dead for all the hiring managers who’ll look at my resume. BTW, seen Affirmative Action in action ALL my life from high school in Boston in the 60s thru college, the USAF, IBM, NASA and more an lemme tell you, it’s one of the reasons the country has slipped way down from when we led the world. You cant keep giving the best jobs and school placements to the morons and expect to excel. Been there. Seen it. It’s a fact. Oh and obama scares the living cr*p out of me. SOme of you will love that. You are fools. Here’s an idea – seek out Russian immigrants to this country. Ask them if THEY support obama. They know a freaking commie when they see one, though they probably wont recognize a black racist as easy as say I can. But that’s what obama is a black racist commie. No less, maybe more.

IT ISNT OBAMA SUPPORTERS WHO YELL RACISM ITS THE EXIT POLLS , THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED HILLARY WHO SAY THEY VOTED AGAINST HIM BECAUSE OF RACE…
ITS NOT ALL PEOPLE THAT VOTE HILLARY ITS MOST IF NOT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD FALL TO MCCAIN IF THEY CANT GET HILLARY. PREJUDICE IF NOT RACISM..
THOSE WHO ARE EASILY CONVINCED THAT ANY RUMOR ABOUT A BLACK MAN IS ENOUGH TO NOT TRUST HIM.. HE IS MUSLIM ANTI-AMERICAN ECT. WE ALL KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IF ANYONE HAD TRIED TO PIN EITHER ONE OF THOSE RUMORS ON MCCAIN OR HILLARY THEY WOULD HAVE LAUGHED.. IT DOESNT TAKE TOO MANY BRAIN CELLS TO FIGURE OUT WHY!

she wasnt trying to change the way the democrats win the nomonee when her husband was the winner! isnt it her that said a win is a win?
she has to play by the rules even if they dont work in her favore unless she wants the same boycott she is trying to give obama..

Patriot, on the morning of Nov. 5th that so-called blowout list of yours is going to meet reality in the form of something called 270 votes in the Electoral College. Hint: it’s how the U.S. elects Presidents.
For previews of this coming attraction, check here
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May21.html
and here
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May21.html

Clint Eastwood says he admires Hillary–her grit for staying in the fight. Now, he is being accused of being a racist for not including blacks in his war movies.
How long has it been since Flags of my Father came out–long enough for people to complain if they had a legitimate gripe?
Christ, how much longer do blacks think they can attack everything not-black before there is a backlash? If the people in KY and WV do oppose affirmative action, maybe they have a good reason for it.
I know I mediated a case where a woman was fired because she complained that she had to do all the work in the department while the blacks sat there and did their nails–when she asked them to carry their weight they told her they didn’t have to because they were a protecdted class. The employer didn’t deny that happened–they just said that they could fire her for complaining about that because it wasn’t racist or sexist for doing so. But that didn’t stop then for paying off the white woman to go away.

What a lot of angry, suspicious, paranoid people! Dennis

Policy reasons this Hillary supporter will vote for John McCain instead of Barack Obama:
1) I do not support legalizing marijuana or consider the war on drugs unnecessary
2) I am pro-choice but only in limited instances (health of the mother–including mental health–and birth defects) not pro-infantcide (requiring a doctor to allow a healthy child who survives an abortion procedure–be it RU0-486 or a surgical proceudre–to die rather than provide the newborn medical care
3) I own a handgun and oppose implementation of the UN Milenium Standards that are part of the Obama Global Anti-Poverty Bill
4) I know that universal healthcare will have to come from Congress not from the Whitehouse
5) John McCain has signaled that he is going to end the war but will leave troops in Iraq … Obama has said he will end the war and station troops in Kuwait … they few miles difference don’t make that much difference to me
Personal reasons that I will not vote for Barack Obama:
1) No one goes to a church for 20 years unless he believes what the preacher is saying or he is using his “church” for other purposes, i.e. you don’t go to a Catholic Church every week then claim not to be a Catholic
2) No one associates with characters like William Ayers and his wife Bernadette and Jodie Evans unless he or she shares some of their views
3) “Or else” what? Michelle is on the campaign trail. She says verying ugly and mean things about the U.S. but she is supposed to be off limits?
4) News reports tonight indicate that an Obama delegate went on Syrian TV and said very negative things abotu America and Americans
I think what many liberals don’t realize is that when you take the person in the middle out (Hillary) people don’t have to move to the left. They can and often do move to the right–especially if the liberals are putting forth policy positions that they consider unconscionable.

The benefits of affirmative action are typically measured across time–during the 70s white women were big beneficiaries because they were the ones leading the charge for equality and were unqiuely situated to take advantage of the new laws when they were enacted. Since the 80s, very few affirmative action benefits have gone to white women but since we grabbed over 80% of the benefits in the 70s it will take some time to bring the % downs. Plus, so long as the promoters of affirmative action can say that the intended beneficiaries haven’t been helped enough, they can get more $$$ for their programs.

Mr. Webb speaks and writes well, from extensive knowledge and experience, but he is inaccurate when he speaks of antipathy of affirmative action as the real motivator here. Racism is alive and well particularly in rural America. The more sedentary the more bigoted one is. That’s my perception. I’m voting for Obama. Heck, I’ll cut his grass and weed his flower beds.

Also, jlynne–about this whole Ayers guy….they both were professors at the University of Chicago…Ayers is a distinguished professor. Obama thought he was an English professor–but he’s not…he teaches education reform.
Not only that, they both served on a board to help underprivileged people. Obama served from 1993 to 2002. Ayers was appointed by the Mayor of Chicago to the board in 1999.
Obama is not endorsing terrorists by serving on a board to help disadvantaged people that a former radical was appointed to. He’s endorsing helping disadvantaged people.

Let me make a prediction: IF Dems are not careful, they are going to lose this election because hillary is forcing them to take Black votes for granted.
I heard a speech today that made me shake my head: Black will never vote republican.
REally? Yes they can and or they can stay home and let whites do their thing if come down to it.
If Obama is not nominated, not only will blacks stay home or vote for Mcwar, Many white people will do the same. This thing about black and white that Hillary and the media is injecting into the race is a disgusting and damaging piece of sht.

Sorry for the delay … my comment got flagged for possible spam … it may post eventually.
I will try to make this one short so it will post.
1) Here is a link where Obama says he has always supported decriminalizing marijuana: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NATIon/896961936/1001
2) I don’t think Hillary or Obama could get universal healthcare through Congress. Hillary’s plan had a better chance of passage because it was more targeted and based on an existing program but the advantage was so small its hardly worth mentioning.
3) People disagree on what the Global Anti-Poverty bill does. However, it does include a proposal to adopt the U.N. Millenium standards which include a ban on all small arms. This wouldn’t trouble me as much if Obama’s campaign had not filled out a position questionnaire saying that he supported banning all handguns. This wouldn’t bother me as much if he hadn’t advocated a gun ban as a method to stop the violence against school children in Chicago.

It’s not hard when you see the people of color pitted against the hispanics. The women pitted against the men. And the white against the black. We are being systematically balkanized from the inside out. Bilinguial education isn’t assimilation, it’s balkanization. Those who break the law to emigrate here aren’t asked to know english, the laws, or even how our banks work. It’s a system committed on having you dependent on government or having something you earned taken from you if your not. People have nothing against those who emigrate to the US legally, they have a problem and resent those who come through illegially, and get benefits that legal residents have to pay for. Free health care means cost go up and hospitals close. Somebody always has to pay. And as long as we are allowed to take from others, while allowing those who recieve to not identify with their adopted country and live off the fruits of other peoples labor, that resentment will continue. And it’s not fair to every side. The problem is not immigration, it’s the amount of illegal immigration that is choking our system. Social security is about to go bankrupt, so what do they do, give it to illegal immigrants. Yeah, that’ll will make it really last now, won’t it. The government is robbing from you to give to others and those who recieve it are just as angry and resentful of those they got it from. Yet government is rewarded every year, and gets bigger and bigger; While more jobs are offshored to the third world and developing world thanks to increasing health care and labor costs. Our financial system is on the brink of collapse, our borders (in this era of “terrorism”) are left unsecured and those who would secure them are bogged down, overseas, unable to defend US; and we are fiscally as well are at our breaking point creating more ineffective and unfuded mandates that we can’t afford. (like oh, the war on invisible “terror”) And yet the solution is always more government, and more military spending. Why can’t we get a shot at running things in the states and decide what priorities need our attention. Why is Washington always given the benefit of the doubt, when clearly they can’t manage it. Why are we looking to get help from Washington when they clearly don’t have our best interests at heart and turn a blind eye to the needs and wants of our own communities. Is it too much to ask to vote out these ineffective and unresponsive incumbents instead of reward them every two to four or six years for putting us in this mess. It’s time to say NO to this type of insanity and hold these people accountable for their actions. From the President on down. Until we take it that seriously, we don’t deserve to whine about how they aren’t listening to us. Clearly if we don’t tell them what we want, others will gladly take our place. It’s time to make our elected officals fear US for a change, rather than not getting the latest big illegal contribution from yet another big corporation looking for another taxpayer subsidy. How in the hell can that be considered “free market”. Folks, until we reject politcs as usual, they will continue to divide and conquer us… While we fuss over someones gender, age or race, and not their policy that is opposed to our own best interest. Stop blaming each other and punish those responsible. Until you do you will continue to have plenty to complain about… but at least your have CNN and FOX news to watch when you get home from your second job.

Opps… Here are the links:
Links:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obamamideast10apr10,0,2195251.story
htpp://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageld=57231

Emily,
Your fear mongering did not work in 32 states including 90% white states like Iowa, OR, WA, WI and it will not work in GE either! Do you got brain to make any sense of these?
You think people of those 32 states stupid to believe your nonsense? Do not under estimate the power of 17+ millions voters with your Dark Heart!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!

hopesprings52,
OBAMA is running for President of the USA not North Korea where 100% people have to vote for one person! He will win by winning majority of the vote not 100% of the vote or delegates, that is normal for the President of USA!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!

RC,
Obama has not won the majority of the white vote since the Reverend Wright story broke. If you discount all the primaries that occured before the Reverend Wright story, Hillary is winning hands down. If you discount the popular vote from the city of Chicago and exclude both Florida and Michigan, Hillary is winning hands down. The most recent polls show Hillary winning in VA, NC, and MO–states that Obama carried handily. Oregon should have been a walk-away for Obama but it wasn’t. Its the rock bands opening for him–not Obama–drawing the huge crowds. As it stands now, Obama will limp into the convention with a majority of the pledged delegates but no clear mandate — not a great showing before the general election. The majority of people do not understand the delegate system or care about it. All they will “know” is that Hillary won the popular vote but lost the nomination — the same as Al Gore.
The problem is Barack Obama can’t win the working class vote and Hillary Clinton can’t win the African American vote. The party is split in half which means if John McCain can mobilize the Republican base he will win. Reverend Wright will mobilize the Republican base for McCain–while conservatives like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Karl Rove and Laura Ingram have all said they have a new respect for Hillary. The Obama supporters have substantially lowered her negatives — who would have ever expected that?

We have bigger problems than which of the current crop of political idiots manages to steal the Presidency. There is no one alive who will save us from what the near future has in store for all of us. The human race has only one hope and that is for every single human to start working together to save what is left of the only home any of us will ever have.
There is no one out there to save us but ourselves.

Obama is creepy.

RC,
Turning red states blue would be inconsistent with over 200 years of American political history. That would also be inconsistent with everything we know about sociology, psychology, and behavior economics.
That’s why McCain has a lead in the electoral college now and that is why he has a good chance of winning the general election.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May21.html
I think I heard the latest poll results on Hannity and Colmes. I will see if I can find a link.

It is so easy to tell when someone changes their user name then continues to spew the same Obamit Vomit.
We didn’t buy it before we aren’t buying now.

Have you read the Joe Lieberman article yet?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121132806884008847.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

CAN YOU IMAGINE MICHELLE OBAMA AS THE FIRST LADY OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY? HAVEN FORBID.

If Michelle Obama were so gracious, why would Barack Obama be so worried about the Republicans playing clips of her speeches? Gracious women do not say things like “Americans are mean” or that “they are proud of their country for the first time.” Gracious people never have to worry about “being taken out of context.”

Justme,
I agree–it would be very unbecoming of Barack if he did not stick up for his wife. If she were gracious he would not have to stick up for her. If he wants to compare himself to JFK, then she will be compared to Jackie. I can’t think of many women who could live up to that standard. Unfortunately, she is more like Hillary Clinton (when she was first lady) than anyone else. No wonder she hates her so much.

the fact that hillary,farrahaa,and carvelle still see obama as a black man,and not a man tells you we have not come far enough in amercia..like it or not rev wright spoke a lot of truth,and if amercia was far,equal and just you would not need a rev wright

This is so predictable. I said months ago that the “people in charge” are putting obama in Office to abolish affirmative action. And here comes the news commentaries on it. I suspect the argument will be, that if a black man can become president, then there is no more need for it.
From the beginning, Obama has been the nominee. The DNC (which i consider part of the government) has taken steps to keep the Clintons down. “Rules” that take out certain state’s votes and not others (there were 5 states that broke those rules, but they only punished 2. Furthermore, the Credentials Commitee can change the rules at anytime they see fit–those are the “rules”. So this “changing the rules” bit is totally within her right to do so by their own parties rules.

Obama is a constitution lawyer. who talked about re-writing the constitution in college days.
Obama’s main claims is to change Government.
He has never gave any details or showed any plans, Just that is his main goal to change government.
His Religion, who he has made know is very much a part of him. States that one goal is to redistribute power Of this country and redistribute wealth of this country.
That is in the doctrine to his religion.
Those are two personal goals Obama has.
and has made know. That he will change government, and that his religion is very much a part of him.
To hand over the Supreme power of this country to a man who has those two goals in his life, is sheer insanity.
Anyone voting for him is doing just that.
Of the skeptics will say oh he won’t do that. He will probably say Oh, I would not do that. He has lied to the American people in the recent past. So he is very capable and able to do it again, and will.
I love United States of American. I want to see it be around for a long long time.
I will not take a change or gamble on This countries future, with someone who has other goals for it.
If you love your country, you will say no to Obama.

the Obama networks are busy this morning. GMA (ABC) very first report was one bashing McCain. Robin Obama Roberts first words were how McCain’s “spiritual” advisor a evangalical minister named Parsley said some nasty things about Islam. the other obama network (NBC) did a long segment on how Obama ia a great person, he just needs to get his message across. No mention of wright, ayers, dorhn, farrakhan, ben laudin, etc. etc. McCain should demand equal time. these people make no attempt to get the facts accurate or be fair. they are also feeling sorry for Teddy Kennedy. Did these people feel sorry for Mary Jo when the coward ran away and left her to die?

Obama’s cover up about his church will stay with him as the truth is out. I’m more concerned now with his recent statements on May 18, 2008 that Iran is a “tiny” nation and not a threat to American and on May 19, that Iran is a “grave” threat to America and I’ve always told you this. This man is so inconsistent—are these going to be the new standards of America!

Just to inform people affirmative action affects a very low percentage of Americans. Even if they did away with it for lower class whites it will have zero effect on your lives and is a non issue. Mr. Webb is unjustly trying to tie affirmative action on Obama back as if he was the cause. Senator Clinton supported it too so why has that not been tied to her back , for some reason everything seems to end up in Obama lap as if he was the reason. People this will more than likely have zero to no effect and trust me without it you would see an extremely low percentage of blacks in certain schools and jobs and I am sure that you all new its true.

This video clip will be interesting and will definitely have an effect on voters support. I agree, I think Michelle Obama is a liability for Barack and the GOP will stop at nothing, like you said, in finding past video clips and documentation of her prejudice against white people. The onslaught of this by the GOP will be overwhelming. This is going to be interesting and we thought the battle between Clinton and Obama was fierce, I’m afraid we haven’t seen anything yet!

guess Webb is out as a VP.
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Steve_NJ you need to understand that they do have dirt, it is a gaurantee but they can not use it now. They have to wait until closer to the GE because the BO spin doctors would have way too much time to do damage control. It is way too earliy in the process!

As ethnically diverse as American has come to be has, in my mind, made affirmative action a waste of time and effort. Our constitution allows for the PURSUIT of happiness and wealth…..it does not guarantee it based on ethnic origin.
I don’t think the people of WV and KY voted for HRC because BHO was black, but because she was more familiar to them, being like them.
I think racism is dormant in each of us, but really isn’t a factor until one lives in an area where he is in a minority. Living in such an environment brings out the latent racism (read different-ism). Birds of a feather flock together for a reason.
Yes, slavery was wrong, but it’s over. But to expect anyone, educated or not, to feel comfortable with someone who is very different from them is expecting too much from any living creature.
Let’s get over it, stop yelling at each other. And count the d**n votes, for the majority should always rule.
What you have or where you go in this world is a result of your effort and is your choice. THAT IS AMERICA. I don’t think we want it any other way.

Some oppo-research team has determined that Web’s public statements on Affirmative Action need to be “clarified” now to immunize him against attacks if he were to be on the ticket.
We are only months away from the claim that a discussion about Webb’s position is already “old news”, has been “exhaustively considered” and presents “no incompatibility with a President Barack Obama”.
The chess pieces are getting into position.

If you all paid attention to the policy in the last debate…he said that Affirmative Action should be class based. He is the ONLY one who can do it and I will bet you all that it will be done…

I hope Obama wins then black ppl will see that they can achieve anything if they work hard. They have someone to look up to.
With an Obama win, black ppl can not demand for affirmative actions or special privileges in schools, work, or any place that requires a brain and some hard work to earn a good living.
With an Obama win, black people can not behave as they are now. Always whinin’ and bitchin’ if they can not win a competition when brain is required not brawn.
With an Obama win, black students should have no more excuses for falling behind school: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9103842?IADID=Search-www.mercurynews.com-www.mercurynews.com&IADID=Search-www.mercurynews.com-www.mercurynews.com