Obama Retreats from ‘Bowman Plan’

What did Bowman really expect from a world class panderer like Obama. Once he got the nomination he flip flopped on this issue, like most everything else.
His Indian name should be: Chief talks out of both sides of mouth

Mr. Bowman should know that for someone to come from no where to make an offering of any kind, the burden was on him to be suspicious. If not, he should read all the Nigerian emails making all kinds of promises and respond positively to them.

OBAMA IS JUST SHOWING HE IS ALSO A SHREWD POLITICIAN.THAT IS ALL!! sO MUCH FOR CHANGE!!!
TO ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS….WE MUST NOT VOTE FOR THIS GUY. DO NOT VOTE FOR mC cSIN BUT DONT VOTE FOR HIM. sTAY HOME. tHIS GUY IS NOW GOING CENTRIST AFTER LEANING LEFT TO DEFEAT OUR HILLARY. DO NOT FORGET ALL THE GARBAGE WE AND HILLARY HAD TO ENDURE UNTIL SHE HAD TO SUSPEND!!

Don’t feel bad Mr. Bowman, a lot of people bought what Obama was selling. No one vetted, questioned or even bothered to find out who this guy was at the beginning. Heck, they still aren’t. The media will always give him a free pass.

For those of you who feel like you’ll be benefited from “taxing the rich”, you’re so wrong. Who make $250,000 in small cities?? it’s small business owners. If these owners got tax too high, what are they going to do?? they will either reduce the working hours, reduce wages, or lay off workers. My father-in-law has a small business and business has been tough and he already said with high tax, he’s going to have to lay off workers.
Same with corporate tax. they are in business to make money but if corporate tax too high, then they will go somewhere else for business. I don’t understand why there’s a suprise or complaint why jobs are going overseas. America tax corporate business 2nd highest in the world. Union is the 2nd main reason for business to leave. They demand too much.
This country is really going to doom. Bush already made a mess with obama’s change, we’re all going to the end of the river. Good Luck everyone!!!

(CNN) – Barack Obama said Thursday he fully expects Republican’s to play the fear card in the general election, and will attempt to portray both him and his wife Michelle as “scary.”
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Why do they need to portray them “scary”?
They are scary, being a phony hypocrite who constantly makes boneheaded mistakes to deceive voters like Mr. Bowman to get nominated.
As always, the phony always thinks so highly of himself, but in really, he is nothing but phony hypocrite who get his affirmative action in the primaries.

If we can remmember it was during the ABC debate that Obama said there might have to be an exception to those with income between the $97,000 and $200,000.
None the less somethingh needs to be done about SS.

Wow, another man was thrown under the bus.. Who’s next???

Hello, this plan will go a long way to fixing the social security problem that has been ignored for too long by the Bush/McCain Administration.
I favor no exemption. But, plus 250 will bring in enough revenue to keep the system solvent for another 30 years.
Note to Hannah. This is not about small business owners, this is a payroll tax.

Thinking
Sorry, McCain is never on Obama’s bus so he can’t throw him…

That is a change you can believe in. Mr. Obama is a true panderer. If he goes to Iran, he will agree with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that the holocaust never happened.
The democratic party needs to be destroyed.

Obama will win, but I don’t like his throwing his past support under the bus. He should be proud of those positions and stand on them. But he is being bought to submit to the masters and do there bidding. Hence, the “change” that is coming is more of the same. Same policy, different face. If you can’t figure this out buy now, then you never will. McCain is just as bad. But Obama isn’t change. He is the same, just as well.

If $103K-$250K sounds like a windfall to Americans, you don’t live on the East or West Coast. If you live in the middle of the country, a $1m home comes with several acres. If you live in Southern California or elsewhere on either coast, that same $1m buys you a 2250 sq. ft. condo. Mr. Obama has to be careful with all of those proposals of his to tax, tax, tax. On the coasts, we’re taxed out.

At least Obama isn’t going to privatize social security the way that McCain is.
McCain is the biggest flip flopper on social security.

sorry Tod Bowman.
It took 6 months to find about this “snake-oil salesman”.
It is not too late. Go to ABC and tell about this “snake-oil salesman”

The media needs to ask McCain if he wants to privatize social security or not.
In 2004 & 2005 McCain said he wanted to privatize social security and then yesterday he said no but today he said he was for “personal accounts” which is privatizing of social security.

Danny
Your logic is truly underwhelming.

McCain: Privatizing Social Security, increase the age when retires
Obama: increasing payroll taxes >$250,000 to ensure social security
Based upon that I definitely PREFER Obama’s plan.
I don’t want my social security based upon the Stock Market.
Obama wins that argument.

You can’t believe much of what a politician tells you during a primary. You can’t believe hardly anything a politician says during a general election. And you can’t believe anything a politician says once elected.
Any questions?

How many times Obama admitted himself: I didn’t mean it…
Obama never meaned what he said before…
So don’t take it serious!!

Obama is a man of compromise and a politician.Duh? Why would he campaign far left when the country has values from the right to the left. Center is always the best to campaign from.So what he tweaks his stances. This is called learning from your mistakes in some instances,and once again he is a politician.They do it all the time.Just because you may stick with a stance that doesn’t make it right. You can be resolute and wrong for years.

Sorry, Linda, but we’re living longer, so it just makes sense that we can expect to work longer. People in this country have no concept of responsibility.

Must be heart broken.

The disillusion with Obama already began. Can anyone still count his flip-flops:
Iran-meeting, Israel stance, campaign public finance, his church, now economy.
For him, it is just too hard to pretend to be something he really isn’t capable of.
An incompetent candidate good at only pandering and hollow words. Note vote for him from me.

There is no way this HRC supporter will vote for the phony hypocrite Bho.
Now, it makes me wonder if it’s time to reconsider affirmative action.
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Funny you should say this. Obama has also said the same thing. He favors affirmative action based on income to some degree, Such as college admission etc.

Payroll taxes are matched but the employer also has to pay self-employment tax with his Schedule C profit. Guess what? The Self-Employment tax is 2×7.65 or 15.3% The employer pays BOTH sides on his profit. Lots of small business owners are going to be upset by this and they should be. Large business are incorporated so they don’t pay self-employment taxes.
Posted by: LindaCPA
We are talking about lifting a cap Linda. Do you support saving social security or not?

Everything is relative, so perhaps the best thing going for Obama is that he is still running against Grandpa McCain. Given the choice between an expanded war, overturning Roe and a continuation of Bush domestic policies, I’ll still take not.

God Bless America

How convenient. House and Senate members earn $186,300. Fits neatly into Obama’s “exemption donate hole”.
He is pure politician!

Will This really matter much? As it stands now, Obama won’t be able to pull this off in the general election. He has too many people with negative stories that are about to come out on him. Most of them have already been posted on http://www.realdealreport.com and will eventually hit the mainstream media.

Memo to Mr. Bowman:
1.) Even with your contributions of 12.4% on whatever your income is, odds are that you will suck more out of the social security than you will ever put in and so someone else will end up funding your retirement-namely, my kids;
2.) As for your income, you chose to become a teacher in Iowa and presumably knew that your were not going to make millions so don’t complain about people who chose different career paths.

yea why does nobody see that hes just a “likeable” Bush

When Clinton said she was ready on day 1, that wasn’t a slogan, it was the truth. With Obama, its gonna be a social experiment. Try this maybe? Or this? See if something sticks. Say one thing and then do another. This is exactly what we saw when Jimmy carter was President. Interest rates skyrocketed, we were all restricted and standing in line for gas on alternate days, etc. Finally, it gave the Republicans a majority for 20 years. And what broke that cycle? President Bill Clinton showed that we could have prosperity and be fiscally responsible. We arein bad shape. Its an emergency and we need a person genuinely ready on DAY 1. If you think it can’t get worse. Elect Barack Obama.

AXT113 – your comment is about the dumbest one yet. So it is okay to lie and side step to win office. Now with those tactics going as far back as our founding fathers, how is Obama about change?
The Obama supporters will cut off their noses to spite their faces. The writing is on the wall and Obama proves with each passing day that he will be an effective president. I pray that he does not choose Hillary as VP or if he offers it to her, she declines.

The ignorance that abounds about privatising SS is stunning. First of all any plan to do so would be VOLUNTARY!! Next, anyone within 10 years of retirement CANNOT privatise their SS and third by privatising SS the account owner upon his death can pass the money in the account on to his heirs, something not possible now.
Private accounts could be invested in FDIC insured Certificates of Deposit which would pay a return far greater then the governments current return of about 2%. in the middle 1980′s a Texas municipality opted out of SS and instead allowed their employees to invest in a variety of monitored financial vehicles including balanced mutual funds, bond funds, CD’s or just plain money market accounts. The average employee who retired at 65 had a nest egg of about 1.5 MILLION dollars that was theirs to do with as they wish. And as I said, when they die they can give it to their family. With SS when you die the money stops. If you retire at 65 and die at 66 all the money you paid in goes right back to the government.
Finally even IF one goes for a private retirement account the government will STILL guarantee a minimum monthly payment in the event of some unfathomable catastrophe. But the main point is NO ONE HAS TO DO THIS. It is strictly voluntary.
The only reason the liberals want SS left intact is because all that money is in the general tax fund and they use it to fund giveaway social programs in order to buy votes.
Anyone against having their own private SS account is brain dead and brainwashed.

Why the “donut hole”? If the people who make the least can pay, then surely those making between $97,000 and $250,000 can also afford to pay. If anyone gets a free ride, it should be those earning the least, not those at the top, and not those somewhere in the middle. But that’s what American has become…stick it to the smallest, the weakest, the youngest, the poorest.
You have to qualify to get Social Security and Medicare. To do so you have to pay a certain amount into the fund for a certain number of years. So the poorest would lose out if they never paid anything. I agree with your sentiment and EVERYONE should get a minimum payment once they reach a certain age. That way it could be lifted off those who can afford to pay it the least. But as things stand, that won’t help the poorest of the poor.

>>>Olbermn3″
Re: affirmative action:
I agree!
If affirmative action has given black candidate the education and breaks necessary to reach the point of nomination for president, then we should agree that it has done it’s job…
and do away with it!!!!!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!A

Lower the percent paid, say from 12.5% to 10.5% and remove the cap entirely. Low and middle class workers pay 2% less and also become 2% more affordable globally (because of employer matching). It would break even somewhere around $125k to $150k and people making more than that won’t notice the change.

Maybe what you bloggers are forgetting is that IA was over a year ago look at gas, milk, corn, wheat prices a year ago. Nobody predicted that so you will have to make changes on your views and the economy monthly if not daily. everything is moving rapidly, we stay still and continue to get left behind, China, Mexico, and Canada are doing much better because they made the necessary changes to be competitive in the economic world, so suck it up, it’s going to get worst for some and better for others make your necessary change, re-educate yourself, find somewhere cheaper to live, give up your Starbuck’s, we can adapt, YES WE CAN!!