Article: Friends Feared New Clinton Bimbo Eruptions
ABC News’ Tahman Bradley Reports: Former President Bill Clinton’s office moved swiftly to discredit a spicy profile story in the June edition of Vanity Fair written by Todd S. Purdum. Clinton’s office distributed a memo to reporters Sunday calling Purdum’s 9,600 word article "journalism of personal destruction at its worst."
Purdum, a former White House correspondent for the New York Times, cites anonymous Clinton aides, past and present, who paint a portrait of an undisciplined, sometimes reckless man trapped in a vacuum of self indulgence.
Read the story HERE.
Purdum writes that four former Clinton aides told him about 18 months ago that one of Clinton’s former assistants grew very concerned about the number of tabloid reports concerning the former president and women. The former assistant said "he felt compelled to try to conduct what one of (the) aides called an "intervention," because he believed "Clinton was apparently seeing a lot of women on the road," according to the article.
Arguing the master has lost his groove — his world famous political touch — during the eight years he’s been out of office, Purdum quotes another senior aide who he says is part of a group of friends who worry Clinton has never been the same since heart surgery in 2004.
"There seems to be an abiding anger in him, and not just the summer thunderstorms of old. He has been called into question repeatedly by top staff. The fact is, you can only weigh in so often on this stuff. It’s just a huge force of nature," says the source, according to Purdum.
The choice of business associates and the close friends Clinton now keeps are perhaps the greatest concern of the aides, Purdum writes. "Butt boy" Doug Band, a counselor to Clinton, has been said to rub people the wrong way, according Purdum’s sources.
Maggie Williams, former White House chief of staff to Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., who now serves as Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign manager, left her job in the Clinton Foundation partly because of Band, writes Purdum.
Then there’s Ron Burkle, a California billionaire and Clinton business partner, who has investors that include an entity connected to Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, ruler of Dubai.
Clinton’s office argues the article features "past attacks" and fails to mention the global humanitarian work done by the Clinton Foundation.

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The only reason we only hear this stuff now is that Obama chose to run a clean campaign and the thanks he gets from the HRC nut jobs is to vote against him in the fall.
Like Hillary could really win in November. Not with all the NEW dirt that would come out.
Posted by: BLAH BLAH | June 1, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Vanity Fair?
I am no Clinton supporter, but I do not think I’ll wait with held breath to read this.
I am sick of innuendo.
Besides what this man does, or does not do is of no concern of mine.
Posted by: Thinking | June 1, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
The Clintons are RUDE nasty crooked people ask some of her secret service .The people in the white house called her monster.Many who have known they are dead.Many body guards are dead like they knew to much…..I sure hope their days as high and mighty are over….She won PR big deal riding on his shirt tails.
Posted by: older person | June 1, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
@Yea sure.
No I have never been a Hillary supporter. There is someone else using the same name from time to time, so I guess there is no control over the user name on these blogs.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | June 1, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I find the Obama people quite hypocritical when it comes to stories like this. When the Jeremiah Wright issue came to the forefront, the Obama supporters all cried, “but that is his pastor, what has it got to do with him?”. Now another BS Bill Clinton story is about to surface and they are all over it like you know what. Of course this is not a story about Hillary Clinton, but the rules are different for the Clintons, at least if you support Obama that is. This is why I will never, ever vote for Obama, a vote for him is a vote for hypocrisy.
Posted by: JRS | June 1, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Never ever going to vote for that empty shell of an American? a what??
Obama the enigma or the a figment of the DNC’s imagination.
Tripping over rainbows, spouting fairytales. Selling hope and change as if they were commodities on Wall Street!143 days in the Senate and NOTHING to show for it, hanging on to any bill he could slide on to, never shows up, never shuts up! Never vote for Obama he is a fraud!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 1, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Clintons will NEVER occupy the White House again. They are unfit! There are enough of us to keep them out, and we will. No matter how many Hillary supporters there are, they are outnumbered by those who will not allow these people to be residents of the nations’ house again.
Posted by: J Robinson | June 1, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
If’s he’s stepping out on a woman who wants to lead American then his past work means nil. He expected everyone to over look his messing around in the WH too. Many didn’t and they didn’t appreciate Hillary forgiving him and defending him while going after the women he dallied with…like they were the only ones at fault.
He has the mroals of an ally cat and sleeps with women his daughters age. He hasn’t stopped based on the numerous accounts out there for all to read.
I’m just glad she is no longer a viable candidate.
Posted by: Brian | June 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
IS PURDUM’S LAST NAME “KEITH OLBERMANN”?
THATS THE ONLLY MAN WHO MAKES A LIVING HUNTING THE CLINTONS.
Posted by: TJ | June 1, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Obama is the one who is the security Threat to this nation.
Sounds like someone wants their 15 min of fame, with vanity fair.
Posted by: seah | June 1, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
So she is STILL tolerating his philandering and then dares to act like a victim of sexism. Even for Hillary, that’s shoddy and cheap.
Posted by: windrider | June 1, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
JRS:
Even if your argument is true and Obama supporters are hypocrites, what’s your argument for Hillary’s hypocrisy? While you don’t like the hypocrisy of Obama’s supporters, Obama’s supporters don’t like the hypocrisy of Hillary herself. Which one do you think is worst? I’ll take indirect hypocrisy over direct hypocrisy any day.
Posted by: DIL | June 1, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Another headline grabber to diffuse her victory in Puerto Rico where she cleaned Obama’s clock, even with those college students. Nice pattern. (She wins West Virginia, they drag out John Edwards to endorse.)
Not falling for it. My vote never goes to him.
Posted by: Mandelay3 | June 1, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Everyone relax…The end is near for the Clintons.
Thankfully, America saw them as they frauds they are and have voted to send the Clintons out to pasture.
HRC will certainly blame Bill for the disaster but her own arrogance and sense of entitlement is what did her in.
It’s over by Wednesday.
Posted by: TrueDem | June 1, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I support Obama.
This sort of gutter journalism disgusts me when deployed against Obama.
It also disgusts me when used against (either) of the Clintons.
Yuck:-(
Posted by: λόγος | June 1, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
June 1, 2008-06-01
The Vanity Fair expose is excellent, revealing and well-researched. THE CLINTONS, especially Bill, represent one of the worst cases of selfish individualism. They act ruthlessly and recklessly in private and public life—and, they now live in their self-created Dreamland USA. In the past, when backed to the corner, they cried “vast right wing controversy” and Democrats rallied for the sake of solidarity to save the Clinton Presidency. They got of easy, with no lesson learned. After running a poor (and very negative campaign) in which they experimented with every conceivable dirty trick of the old politics–kitchen sink, gender, race, media, sympathy, whining, red phone, Bosnia fire, working class vs. the rest, cards and more–now it is the vast “Democratic delegates conspiracy.” Hillary and Bill are still shouting in our ears that without them the world cannot –never–be saved. We know better! Lacking any sense of personal responsibility, the Clintons never blame themselves–their reckless behavior, self-sabotage, lack of ethics and principle, selfish individuality, and more–all of which constrained many women feminists to conclude–”not this woman.” Surely, in the future, a woman better qualified and with all the requisite positive qualities will emerge to claim the Presidency with all of our support!!! Not this woman! Once the Clintons got out of the way, the Democratic Party will begin to write a more hopeful, more positive history of its politics! –Dr. Sam
Posted by: Dr. Sam | June 1, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
This is old news. Clinton has been a womanizer probably since high school. If anyone believes Monica Lewinsky was his first, or last, is extremely naieve. As for his business contacts, it’s well known that he would have to sever some of those relationships if Hillary won the White House. I dislike both Clintons quite a bit, but there is no point beating a dead horse.
Posted by: Steve | June 1, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
What’s new??? We were all screwed by Bill Clinton for eight years not so long ago.
He’s the scum of the earth, and I’m talking Ted Kennedy quality here folks.
Out.
Posted by: Anexio | June 1, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Steve, Bill Clinton is not running for president and he did not liberate Auschwitz.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | June 1, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
On Friday, gas was $3.919 per gallon. On Saturday, it was $3.999 per gallon. What is this, the Weimar Republic? When we moved here, during the evil Clinton days, gas was $.899 per gallon. Horrible, nasty Clintons. As one joke said, during Clinton’s terrible term, a blind man could be hired as a night watchman. Compare facts with facts.
Obama is a shadow with no substance who backstabs his friends and spiritual advisors. What has *he* said about gas prices and our now poor standard of living?
Basically, I’ve never missed voting in an election since Carter (whom I didn’t vote for in the primary, but held my nose and voted in the general election).
Basically, Obama is public relations, image and has nothing to really show for himself except a televangalist way of preaching to the naive. Those with big pockets are trying to buy him.
The choice comes down to stagnation on both sides. I might sit this one out.
Posted by: broombie | June 1, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
I don’t much care who the Clintons sleep with, or don’t, either of them, any of the three of them. Can’t see it’s relevant. Used to be the rule was: This sorta stuff got ignored as a private matter. unless somebody made a public spectacle of themselves.
That was a good rule.
Posted by: Lee C. ― U.S.A. | June 1, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
“cites anonymous Clinton aides”…
Oh please. Total smear campaign. Can’t the BO camp do better than this. Yup, a new kind of politics…….yawn.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | June 1, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
When this all started, I was glad to have two such powerhouse candidates on the Democratic side. Whoever wins the nomination, I said, that’s who I’ll vote for in November. And I will do so, happily.
The distance between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama is miniscule next to the chasm between the Democratic nominee and John McCain. Even if the Democrat who is nominated is my second choice, why would I vote for McCain just to spite that person. I’d just be hurting myself for the next four or eight years?
Haven’t GWB et al. given us nightmares enough for a lifetime?
Posted by: Voice of Reason | June 1, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
If you want a Sunday school teacher to lead this land, Jimmy Carter is eligible for another term. No leader in the last 100 years, except maybe Carter, has been squeaky clean. Some of you people making the most noise are probably the most ethically and morally compromised. Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.”
Now one of you moral pygmies throw a damn rock.
Posted by: Rattlesnake Bob | June 1, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Bubba’s bimbo eruptions are nothing compared to Obama’s Reverend eruptions. If the democrats cannot win the White House this year they should pack it in once and for all.
Posted by: ChaseDPM | June 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Obama supporters do not need to tarnish Clinton’s name at this time. Obama stayed clear of such politics when he could have replied in kind when Hillary went sfter him on Wright and Ayers.
Now, the republicans have vested interest to appear Obama’s supporters just to anger Clinton’s supporters to divide Democrats.
This is simple childish plot and I am sure Clinton supporters won’t fall for it. If anything it shows how the Democrats did not pull all amunition against the Clintons.
Posted by: selam | June 1, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Clinton was the beneficiary of the Internet Biz boom and all the trickle down currency (real and political) that it contained. He has deep ties to some of America’s and China’s worst thugs. He basically tended the terrorist garden and then backed out of culpability when his harvest came callin’ on Sept. 11. Too, he was the most indecent whore-monger to ever bed an intern in the White House. His lascivious lifestyle forever sullied our great institution.
Anything else?
Posted by: tradamerica | June 1, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
It is a pity that many of those who post comments on the interet on this matter are unable, or will never read the Vanity Fair article. Those who would read it will be amazed by the deapth of reasearch and the broad stroke of revelations. I encourage bloggers to read it–seven internet pages long. Then you will be ploitically educated enough to make an informed (as opposed to emotional) comments.
The Vanity Fair expose is excellent, revealing and well-researched. THE CLINTONS, especially Bill, represent one of the worst cases of selfish individualism. They act ruthlessly and recklessly in private and public life—and, they now live in their self-created Dreamland USA. In the past, when backed to the corner, they cried “vast right wing controversy” and Democrats rallied for the sake of solidarity to save the Clinton Presidency. They got of easy, with no lesson learned. After running a poor (and very negative campaign) in which they experimented with every conceivable dirty trick of the old politics–kitchen sink, gender, race, media, sympathy, whining, red phone, Bosnia fire, working class vs. the rest, cards and more–now it is the vast “Democratic delegates conspiracy.” Hillary and Bill are still shouting in our ears that without them the world cannot –never–be saved. We know better! Lacking any sense of personal responsibility, the Clintons never blame themselves–their reckless behavior, self-sabotage, lack of ethics and principle, selfish individuality, and more–all of which constrained many women feminists to conclude–”not this woman.” Surely, in the future, a woman better qualified and with all the requisite positive qualities will emerge to claim the Presidency with all of our support!!! Not this woman! Once the Clintons got out of the way, the Democratic Party will begin to write a more hopeful, more positive history of its politics! –Dr. Sam
Posted by: Dr. Sam | June 1, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
JRS – The difference is that Obama’s pastor will not be privy to White House doings, nor will occupy the WH. Bill Clinton would be “first husband” (or whatever they would call him). He would, in essence, be the president in exile — he would be running the show and HC would be a figurehead.
Posted by: catpurrson | June 1, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I am an Obama supporter and I HATE this kind of reporting where there is innuendos yet absolutely NO REAL EVIDENCE.
Shame on that writer!
Posted by: Stacey | June 1, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
catpursson – but when Hilary claimed experience of being in the white house for 8 years you guys said that didn’t count so why should it count if Bill is her husband, in other words, was she running the show while he was a figurehead? Again you logic doesn’t work.
Posted by: d | June 1, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Drill in ANWR and off the coasts.
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It is my understanding that this oil would go to Japan. We are a net importer of oil. We import and export, but do more importing than exporting.
Posted by: broombie | June 1, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
This is hardly breaking news! his sexual appetitie is well known. He is doing his part to win over voters.
Posted by: scott jeffries | June 1, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hey Folks, why is it that the Obama’s DIRT does not stick to this slick Senator for Ill… What about all of the crap the media just turns a cheek to, but when it come to the Clintons every thing is some sort of controversy. Obama is not the answer to this Countries trouble, only a media driven fantasy that will put us in line with the socialism going on since the EU was born. If this slick Liar get in the Whitehouse, We haven’t seen anything like it in the 230 some odd years, of what is, but will be no longer be, our great Nation. God save us from the ignorance that has been played out from the far left wing MEDIA. Wake up America this is for real, not an episode of a prime time drama.
Posted by: James | June 1, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
How out of character. While he and his wife are out on the campaign trail Bill is now stands accused of seeking the company of other women. I’m shocked. How could anyone suggest such a thing about this wonderful man. Appalling. Really.
Posted by: jggrimm | June 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
If you folks think Clinton was bad, or that Bush was worse, stand by. Your next hero Obama is going to rock your little world.
“Give me ten years and you will not recognize America” (or was it Germany?).
Posted by: Karpy | June 1, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I have a strange opinion of past Presidents — a free pass on any private and public behavior up to a felony.
Our Presidents have had unique on-the-job training that cannot be duplicated and is incredibly valuable if we do what is right and honor them. Instead, we toss them aside as a possible political rival instead of getting their opinion on how to deal with the same foreign leaders and domestic conditions they faced.
So leave Bill Clinton the heck alone. What he does with his private life is between him and a certain presidential candidate. Let’s give him the same solid wall of respect that the honorable press corps gave FDR to hide his inability to walk. Press — grow up and stop treating everything as if you worked for the National Enquirer. National Enquirer — do your job.
Posted by: Tom Mariner | June 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Probably another smear campaign by the Obama campaign, tis the season afterall. Remember the big story the NY Times supposedly had on McCain a few months ago regarding the lady lobbyist? That story totally disappeared because it was just another smear tactic apparently. And don’t forget Scott McClellan who just came out with his “tell all” book. I don’t like what was done by the Bush Adm. either, but he just comes off as a disgruntled employee who cashed in on great timing and lots of free publicity through a Bush hating media. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama campaign, or DNC, did some negotiating with Mr. McClellan on his book either. I am so sick of this whole thing, so much for new politics I guess.
Posted by: dwc | June 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Congratulations on another victory, Hillary! We’ll be cheering and voting for you all the way to the White House!
Posted by: Chelsea S. | June 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
As an independent who has kept up on everything as much as possible, it really does look like Clinton supporters are throwing a fit over their team not winning. Especially after their response to the DNC rules committee.
Posted by: GBMagnum | June 1, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
I would expect to see
this article in the
tabloids and not in the
legitimate media.
This is a total smear
job by Purdum. He quotes
no names (akin to the
National Inquirer) and
offers no evidence.
Further, all of the
Clintons now live in
a fish bowl. They cannot
travel anywhere without
being recognized. They
always have an entourage
composed of secret
service, press agents,
assistants and the like.
About the only place
they can have privacy
is in the bath room.
Purdum is a jerk.
Posted by: Beto | June 1, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
It is time to rid of the Politicos that swim in the same septic tank. No more Bush’s and Clinton’s. It is time for the American People to stand up against the Greedy Blood Suckers and save our Constitution from the Neo’s and their country club septic tank.
Posted by: Eli Chavez | June 1, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Everyone knows he sleep around on Hillary. I am suprised the posted this but O.k. I will spread this like a virus to my friend and their friend. Thanks ABC.
Posted by: Wallace | June 1, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
The Clintons have mocked the Presidency with lies and scandal…now she mocks the DNC and entire campaign process by trampling the very structure she supposedly supports.
They are sick and twisted and we are almost done with them. Its the beginning of the end…they will be crushed under the weight of their own scandals.
First woman to sue the country and change the rules at the last minute in the name of democracy!! What about FALN pardons….
Posted by: twotraps | June 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
The Vanity Fair article is a fairly “nothing new” rehash of Bill Clinton’s post presidential behaviour.
Just as before, he remains a sleazy, talented political man.
For me, the Clintons are both, finally, nausiating. I’d like to see them recede.
Posted by: Bill | June 1, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Hi Obama supporters and Well wishers,
63.5 Superdelegates to go for Sen.Obama for the nomination!
Good luck to Our future President!
Posted by: Countdown | June 1, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
I really do think Obama if he is the nominee, and likely to be, should at the very least have Hillary in the Cabinet in a meaningful post. Health would seem appropriate, but Secy of Labor is a big one. Would involve agreements etc., I think, to protect American workers, meetings with overseas VIP’s. Certainly not at all a demeaning position. She would still be in the inner sanctum. I prefer not as Secy of Defense.
For me, HRC as a VP candidate, would first have to take a week off for family matters then announce that due to irreconcilable differences, she and Bill are parting ways. I know many believe in the absolute sanctity of marriage, but it works both ways. She has been both publicly and privately humiliated and must have been emotionally and mentally battered – unless she really no longer cares since she is an ambitious woman and name has helped?
Come clean with her own baggage. Americans are often forgiving. She would not have Bill’s dealing and wheeling to be concerned about. Let them have privacy about financial settlements. Besides, she could earn her own wealth in time with experience on her two feet to be writing books, giving speeches, negotiating agreements. She would finally really be her own woman. Just some thoughts to get all of you livened up again!
Posted by: KiwiTricia | June 1, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
I do hope that the Obama supporters just keep on putting down Bill and Hillary. It is only hurting Obama chances of winning in the general election.How many of the people who are putting post against Bill that are doing the same thing to his or her spouse.
Posted by: s4bo | June 1, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
This is ridiculous. leave bill alone. this has nothing to do with him hes no longer president nor a candidate. im not a clinton supporter politically but this is pretty low. we dont care about that stuff its over and done with. And why are there post on this board about Obama. He has nothing to do with this either.
Posted by: Allamr18 | June 1, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Bill lives in a different world or so he thinks. When I think of the dems thinking about a ticket of Obama and egocentric Hillary as the VP I want laugh. I can just see Bill in the background trying to tell ol’ Hill what to do and critiquing everything Obama does. Any smart voter will look at this combo as nutty and vote for the old guy…
Posted by: Russ | June 1, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I for one despair that, no matter which candidate is supported, the other is attacked and demeaned. The vast majority of people who post to these blogs apparently have zero capacity to recognize a whole person, with strengths and failings. The failings that seem despicable to us, others see as strengths. Our world is complex, but we collectively are too simple-minded to judge fairly or act reasonably. The viciousness and slander that passes for commentary makes me sad and scared for our future.
Posted by: 1 among many | June 1, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Mim, Bill has money, Bill HAD power, but Bill has never been a looker”. Sorry, babe, that nose tells his whole story…its been looking for love in all the wrong places.
Posted by: Lisa | June 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
The BO fanatics has not built their campaign on anything positive that they have done. They build their campaign on destroying their opponents ever since the first election in Chicago.
I can say that the Clintons has brought to USA the prosperity, the jobs, and the good time that BO does not have the faintest idea. The country is better off with the Clintons in 90. The country is divisive and at a mess with BO and company.
For 20 years, BO has mixed up with scums and those give him hope and audacity. The black community is lining up behind him because he is half-black in and fully black in appearance. After this election, the black community becomes the most hated ethnic group in the country. Thanks to BO the con.
Posted by: John_Lai | June 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Have you people gone completely nuts, HRC and Bill are both good people as are the Obomas. America is fortunate as is the Dem. Party. Whoever gets the nomination, both candidates are fine people who will seek to heal the bloody wounds of our country. Some of the stupid things you people say is sick. I hope there are enough intellagent people, to vote for and fight for change and progress and not on either race or grnder. My vote is for Obama but I appreciate Hillery very much.
Posted by: chucky | June 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
As a citizen of the UK and watching your election procedures with interest to see `democracy in action` it is strongly apparent that thinking Americans have seen through the Clintons and are having second thoughts!I think that they both have far too much questionable baggage and skeletons in their closets.There was entirely no need for her personal attacks on Mr Obama when he gradually drew ahead of her in the Polls.
Let us hope the remainder of the process to chose your next President can proceed without racial & religious slurs and show the world how great a clean democratic election can be run !!
For the record I imagine that McCain will run rings around Mr Obama in the next stages. Best of luck to the U.S.
Posted by: g.coops | June 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
KiwiTricia — good post. I hope that Barack is thinking along those line.
Posted by: 1 among many | June 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
In what some Democratic Party insiders are calling a particularly ominous sign for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, former president Bill Clinton today became the latest super delegate to switch from Sen. Clinton(D-NY) to her rival, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill).
Sources close to the former president said that Mr. Clinton had been mulling such a defection for months, as early as the night of the Iowa primary, but that he only decided to make his decision public today.
“The American people want change,” Mr. Clinton said at a press conference in New York. “Lord knows I do.”
Posted by: rhbate | June 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
@1 among many
Well said.
Posted by: Ernie Mercer | June 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
In what some Democratic Party insiders are calling a particularly ominous sign for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, former president Bill Clinton today became the latest super delegate to switch from Sen. Clinton(D-NY) to her rival, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill).
Sources close to the former president said that Mr. Clinton had been mulling such a defection for months, as early as the night of the Iowa primary, but that he only decided to make his decision public today.
“The American people want change,” Mr. Clinton said at a press conference in New York. “Lord knows I do.”
Posted by: rhbate | June 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Obama is loosing, and the press start an anonymous woman story on Bill. Come on, get real!
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Sounds to me like media people are getting scared that Clinton might have a chance after more baggage comes out soon on Obama (or his wife).
Nice try though.
Keep up those nasty Hillary comments, show us Obama’s unity!
Posted by: Belle-Seattle | June 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Debmood
I bet Bill didnt even call them sweetie!
Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
This article should not be a catalyst for angry, poignant or highly circumspect comments against either Dem. Pres. candidate. Especially, because ABC is referring to “Vanity Fair” magazine, after all! [the glossy, high dollar backed tabloid rag, that regularly sacrifices sources and facts for speculation and sensationalism. So, slow down everyone and consider the source - - despite Bill's reputation and history.]
Nor, is “this” article the type of factually based investigative report to provide a valid or legitimate opening to assail the character or campaign of Senator Obama.
I have strong feelings for a particular candidate and against another, but now all Democratic party supporters need to focus, focus on soundly defeating the Republicans with the (at this time) presumptive Nominee and present a tidal wave size opposition to them and John Mccain, (assuming there are sound, mature, intelligent, logical life out there. We’re all too smart for this kind of continual petty bickering and,now it is time to stand up and prove it).
All must have faith, that:
The Truth will always come out.
Besides, isn’t the larger issue whether the Celtics can take the Lakers in 5 games (or less) or at all? Think Big people!
Posted by: SpaceTraveler | June 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
g coops–
Pay closer attention. McCain is showing some serious weaknesses.
Americans do not like to be talked to as though we are naughty children. McCain is condescending and he clearly does not like anyone to question him about anything. His relationship with the press is growing more strained as he gets very irritable when asked hard questions.
He is not going to do well in the next few months. Obama is calm, cool and collected. McCain is arrogant, condescending and seems to be seething with rage 90% of the time. This is not a guy that anyone would want with his finger on the so-called button.
Posted by: Comfort | June 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Robert wrote:
“He’s not the President anymore. He has a right to live his life the way he wants.
Who the heck do those people think they are to dictate any person’s personal life???
It sounds like an invasion of privacy to me.”
The problem is that if the Clintons make it again to the White House Bill will use the Oval Office one more time to order Pizzas to be delivered by young and beautiful girls whom he will take advantage of as he did in the past… Only this time no one will be able to accuse him or impeach him. (At that time Hillary will be busy searching for her missing hub not the 3:00 AM call).See why we care? We have children…
Posted by: Neta | June 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
λόγος | Jun 1, 2008 8:39:06 PM
close, but no “cigar”;-)
(meaning: you fall just short of a successful outcome, but get nothing for your efforts, make of the cigar whatever comes to mind).
I “seem to be mighty busy rebutting anyone that is critical of the article about Clinton.”?
Huh? I was busy doing the opposite, rebutting anyone who was NOT critical of the article about Clinton.
Anyway, if you’d actually read my post, you’d realize I’m not defending the Clintons. I just don’t like gutter journalism.
As much as gutter journalism, I don’t like sloppy, inflammatory generalizations, such as the following:
“Why do Clinton supporters ALWAYS respond to any remotely negative news with an attack on Obama?”
I certainly didn’t attack Obama, and didn’t read many others here who did either. ALL Clinton’s supporters AlWAYS respond this way? That’s rich.
Sounds to me like you’re just trying to stir up a hornet’s nest – Kind of like the guy who wrote this article.
Shouldn’t I move on?
Good Advice.
I think I shall.;-)
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GOOD FOR YOU! Brush your teeth, read a good night story, get your pacifier and go to sleep. But before you do, enroll in a class on logic and reading comprehension. Then, maybe you can pursue your goal of being the know-all, be-all commentator and corrector for everything and everyone.
GOOD-NIGHT!
Posted by: Liz | June 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Even though the Puerto Rico election is over Bill decided to stay there for a while. He wants to cement relations with some of the female personnel that assisted in Hillary’s campaign.
He was specifically interested in the structure of the skimpy swimsuits the girls wear. He was last seen disappearing under a cabana with two of the young girls and his well-known grin. A few minutes later the cabana was bouncing up and down.
Posted by: rhbate | June 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Yeah, just think if the Obama campaign would have mentioned ANY of the dirt on the Clintons….I wont even begin to list the many topics. Obama wisely ran a clean primary campaign against a fellow Democrat. The SuperD’s know that. Now, we need to unite and win the General!!
Posted by: A2daC | June 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Robert wrote:
“He’s not the President anymore. He has a right to live his life the way he wants.
___________________
Bill is a “Public Figure,” and as such, he is not entitled to the same degree of privacy as the ordinary person. He puts himself out in public supporting his wife and fair criticism is permitted. He can’t have his cake and eat it to.
Posted by: rhbate | June 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
someone thinks we are bashing slick willy—we are just reviewing his escapades
Posted by: rodney | June 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
you have to admit on thing–if slick willy and hillwilly and the rest of the crew got into the white house again—–JERRY SPRINGER COULD RUN HIS SHOW OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE
Posted by: rodney | June 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
If BO is the presumptive nominee and has been so since NC, why is he losing KY,WV and now PR by blowout margins? Why are the Democratic votes voting for HRC in large numbers? Shouldn’t he be sewing it all up like McCain did for weeks? Why was the KY and WV white blue collar Reagan Democrat voters even more harsh in their rejection of BO comapred to OH? While PR does not vote in Nov, it indicates that HRC will carry lationo votes while BO will lose them to JM. Why on earth is the Democratic party chosing the best winning moment since Nixon to nominate BO who simply cannot win over key sections of the voters who are going to determine our next President?
Posted by: Warren5678 | June 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Find someone else to blame…
Undermine the messenger
Create a diversion with a moral equivalent
Knife the Vanity Fait author in the back
Tell us “it’s all old news”
Hijack the nomination
Energize the least informed in society
Complain that you’re a victim
Lie with abandon
Is this what the meaning of is is?
Never admit you’re wrong
Take money from anyone, anywhere
Obama is the evil empire
Negotiate to cancel debts, gain power, 2012
Sex is always your word against hers
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | June 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Liz | Jun 1, 2008 9:16:02 PM
Then, maybe you can pursue your goal of being the know-all, be-all commentator and corrector for everything and everyone.
GOOD-NIGHT!
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Not everything and everyone, just you.
I don’t need to take a course in logic to recognize that your first statement
1. “Why do Clinton supporters ALWAYS respond to any remotely negative news with an attack on Obama?”
and now your second statement
2. “Then, maybe you can pursue your goal of being the know-all, be-all commentator and corrector for EVERYTHING and EVERYONE.”
are both examples of a FALLACY. In logic, such statements are recognized as a “Fallacy of Insufficient Statistics, of Insufficient Sample, Leaping to A Conclusion, or Hasty Induction”
A fallacy of HASTY INDUCTION or INSUFFICIENT SAMPLE has the following form:
Sample S, which is too small,(statements by Clinton supporter’s about Obama on this blog) is taken from population P. (All Clinton Supporters)
Conclusion C (All Clinton supporters Smear Obama whenever some bad news comes out about Clinton) is drawn about Population P based on S.
or
X% of all observed A’s are B”s.
Therefore X% of all A’s are Bs.
The fallacy you committed is commmitted when not enough A’s are observed to warrant the conclusion.
If enough A’s are observed then the reasoning is not fallacious.
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Oh, one last observation.
You tell me to:
“Brush your teeth, read a good night story, get your pacifier and go to sleep. But before you do, enroll in a class on logic and reading comprehension.”
Well, that just sounds plain rude!;-)
Sweet dreams.
I’m going to brush my teeth now like a good little boy.
Posted by: λόγος | June 1, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
I’m always humored by the Obama cultists as they pretend that he ran a “clean campaign”. If you call pulling the race card every time you are questioned “clean”, then yes. He ran a completely spotless campaign.
Don’t forget campaigning in Michigan and Florida despite saying he would not. Then there’s the convincing pledged delegates to switch to him, lying about his Iraq opposition, and THEN let’s not forget ignoring Michigan and Florida’s voters until it became OK for him to notice them again.
Yeah, spotless campaign. Congratulations, Democrats, you’ve just handed the election to McCain because you had to fall in love with a new messiah much like you fell in love with Gore and Kerry. You’ll get the exact same result, too.
Posted by: Jack | June 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I love it ,he has been doing this for years she pays no attention but the worst part is the gals are the ones who are hurt not this stupid aqq hole.Didn’t you read that on the champaign they were at different hotel- motels???????From what I have read that if she don’t win this there is a divorce in the making…..How true this is I have no clue
Posted by: older person | June 1, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
The article in question seems to be in the same vein as the one the NY Times put out trying to link McCain to the female lobbyist. These things are distractions to real issues. We have been fortunate that this kind of silliness wasn’t more prominent in the primaries.
Posted by: MIguy | June 1, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan both lost several primaries at the end of their campaigns. Didn’t mean a thing.
Several Dem candidates w/ total popular votes went on to lose the GE. Yawn.
McCain is the GOP’s sacrificial goat – he’ll be swept by Obama. Hillary will do well to keep her Senate seat. She’ll be great on the stump for him tho…
Posted by: juswaitin | June 1, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
and the rumor is Hillary’s girlfriend is a Muslim who lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to work at the WH.
now wouldn’t that be a hoot if true?
Posted by: juswaitin | June 1, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Bill Clinton made Hilliary A Senator and soon to be President, with all his lies and cheating. Liar Cowboy John Barker, can help all his ex-wives, as they write a book on all his lame stories. He is not a Cowboy as he is from Berkley, California, and not Texas. So John Barker is no different, than Bill Clinton. Liar and No Honor.
Posted by: John Barker | June 1, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Watch the 1998 movie Primary Colors. The names have been changed but its a portrayal of Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential primary campaign based on a book by Joe Klein. It really shows how campaigns are all about smear and not about the issues. Also, its an interesting look at the couple and Travolta does an excellent job playing Governor Jack Stanton, i.e. Bill Clinton. The Carville character is really funny.
One quote from the movie from the main character Henry Burton, i.e. Stephanopoulos: “I was always curious about how it’d be to work with someone who actually cared about… I mean, it couldn’t always been the way it is now. It must have been very different when my grandfather was alive. Well, hey, you were there. You had Kennedy. I didn’t. I’ve never heard a President use words like destiny and sacrifice without thinking bullshit. And, okay, maybe it was bullshit with Kennedy too but, but people believed it. And I guess, that’s what I want. I wanna believe it. I want to be a part of something that’s history.”
Posted by: Cindy | June 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Oh, no. Poor Bill. He just inhaled a little, never a serious womanizer as they said. Dont discount HRC’s ability …. so much.
Posted by: Pete | June 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
I know Bill isn’t sleeping around again coz he was with me. Hillary does care and I have quite a scar. You can support Obama but if you get other Democrats to call Bill Bubba you are really just a Repug doing a Repugs work.
Democrats don’t let their friends vote Republican. Tranquila Hintes. Can you say Florida Real Estate?
Posted by: shaamex | June 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
λόγος
hats of to ya man!…. nice rebuttal…
and Liz .. don’t waste ya time replyin to my post i will be movin on! ha… dumb lady!
Posted by: Passerby | June 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
“Hillary doesn’t need a man”?
How about Bill’s name, his presidency, his staff, his fund-raising, his Arkansas career, his political skills, his pandering to minorities, his ability to lie, his willingness to exaggerate Hillary’s role, or his guilt.
She does, however, bring an enormous lack of shame and an extraordinary ability to sleep at night, considering what she knows about the people she has destroyed.
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | June 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Democrats must never forget the enormous contributions of the Clintons not only to America but to the world at large. The need for them to continue to provide support and wisdom to the party at this time, can not be overstated. This is an era of change. Obama symbolizes Change. The Clintons did their best. Lets all support Obama now,while respecting the Clintons.
Posted by: siringu | June 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
This is a planted article to see what the fallout will be.
My quess, Clinton is 60 years old, has heart problems, and Hillary doesnt even want him eating bbq , let alone anything else……….
Its an age old ‘scandal’ of President Clintons, but doesnt wash much anymore considering his age and health.
Besides, its been played out to the american people and its old news decades ago.
Posted by: cgeast | June 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Who cares! go Obama!
Posted by: miles1967 | June 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
obama camp tried to manupulate people. Yea your game is over on november, to all those OLD democrats and superdelegates just dont wish to have the white house, we dont like that OBAMA and we have the right to judge of our votes, OBAMA have done nothing accomplished so he didn’t deserve our vote. Our family would vote for mccain and no question!
Posted by: ricca | June 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Despite whatever dirt anyone wants to kick up again about Bill Clinton, when he was the president the country had better times than during the 12 years previous and 8 years since. Right? Right. So, I personally don’t care about his sex life in white house – the economy was booming and the country enjoyed 8 years of prosperity, peace, security, and fiscal responsibility. For one, I miss those ‘scandelous’ times now our good, religious straight and narrow kind of President has killed over 100,000 people in an illegal war, and driven the debt up to over 5 times what it was when he took office. He has signed laws that will harm children, women, the environment and our bank accounts, now and long into the future. He has stripped away civil rights, government accountability, cooperation with other nations, and any hope of ever negotiating a lasting peace with middleastern countries. Thank God he doesn’t get caught fooling around with women, now that would be just terrible.
Posted by: Sparky | June 1, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Who cares about Bill Clinton’s personal life? He’s not running for office. It looks like Obama is making sure stories get planted–he’s still worried about Hillary.
Posted by: jessie | June 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Potential blackmail is the problem when there is cavorting by a President. Many European politicians have a ‘mistress’ but never inside the official residence, on public monies and are very discreet. They leave the young staff alone. Most of you are probably too young to remember UK PM Profumo and the Christine Keeler sex scandal. The problem was that Keeler was also cavorting with an Attache from the Russian Embassy. Ooops! No, I am not condoning extra-marital relationships. But, men in power attract women. Exercise brain before lust!
Using privilege to arrange deals like Bill was doing in the Dubai Port Authority management of US Ports is also problematic. Hillary was blasting President Bush on any such deal being a security issue without knowing about Bill’s involvement. He put her between a rock and a hard place even as a Senator.
If there is a Clinton divorce, I will be totally disinterested in salacious media. As a woman, my response would be one of and about time! And, if Obama is the nominee, that he gets HRC involved with clear indication of a strong position in the Administration if she is willing. She would be very active busy and though disappointed could find some fulfillment during personal difficulties and public disappointment.
No, I am not being condescending. As a LOL, I would like a female President but cannot vote solely on gender. Perhaps HRC was not quite the right one at this time.
Posted by: KiwiTricia | June 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THIS GUY? At +60, the guy still cannot keep his pee-wee to himself? In all categories, this is DEFINITELY A DIRTY OLD MAN!!!
Posted by: ablanche08 | June 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
“Thinking” wrote: “Besides what this man does, or does not do is of no concern of mine.” That is the kind of thinking without any brain. The whole Lewinsky and Iraq debacles have been committed by men who became our presidents. Even second graders would comprehend the grave ramifications of reckless leaders.
Posted by: Joe Hannes | June 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Once a cheater, always a cheater, I always say. Bill Clinton is no concern of mine. My only concern about Bill Clinton is IF HRC wins POTUS, he would be trying to run things. Of course, that hopefully won’t happen, hopefully HRC will go back to the Senate and become a wonderful Senator. We need to unify this party to get rid of McCain.
Posted by: Willow | June 1, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
KiwiTricia,
It sounds that you are one of those caring mothers for her family.
We need more intelligent and thoughtful people like you. You can educate by posting such a thoughtful messages.
I am actually voting for nobody at this time, but pray that America will have a competent, intelligent, uniting and caring, etc… person for all its citizens and beyond.
Amen!
Posted by: Zu | June 1, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
JRS,
Are you drunk? The only reason I would EVER consider voting for a Democrat is if one presented his/herself in a good light. And, that person seems to be Obama – as least compared to Clinton he comes out on top.
NOTHING, the media has dug up on this guy has anything directly to do with him. EVERYTHING that has been dug up by the media, the Clinton’s, her supporters, etc. about Obama has to do with SOMEONE else. Ayers, is well about Ayers! Wright, well is about Wright! Rezko, well hell, is about Rezko!….I’m sure you understand my point here do you not?
Now, as far as the Clinton’s are concerned, their hands have been DIRECTLY caught in the cookie jar. They have been directly related to MANY of the stories that surround them. So, really you Clinton people have NO argument, NOT a single one. The Clinton’s are more filthy than all of congress combined and that is some dirt – and I do mean direct dirt. You people find me a story that has to do with Obama on a personal level where he has done something wrong or WORSE than the Clintons, and I will not vote for him. Until that time, get a grip. There is NOTHING on this guy and you all know it. Even the people on my side know all they have are his connections to other people. Now, you tell me how many of us don’t know some crazy a// person? I rest my case.
Thomas, W.
Posted by: Notbuyingit | June 1, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Posted by: juswaitin;
“”and the rumor is Hillary’s girlfriend is a Muslim who lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to work at the WH.
now wouldn’t that be a hoot if true?”"
That’s a hoot just reading it. Seriously, how f’ing funny that &^% was to read. Thanks for the laugh! LMAO on that one.
As for as the article is concerned, Bill who? Really, who in the hell cares anything about Bill Clinton? Or even Hillary Clinton for that matter. Thus, I repeat? Clinton who?
Posted by: Tracy | June 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Purdam’s story was about as solid as jello with plenty of dislike for Bill Clinton, which is understandable, but it’s pretty clear that Clinton is not a well man, so it’s costly when he gets stupid and irritable when he speaks. Yes, he runs with racy continental people because essentially he has no family and no real friends here. Hillary has pushed him and used him without mercy and beyond his capacity.
Posted by: Rita | June 1, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Zu: Thank you. Actually, I work for a Juvenile Probation Department! On a personal note, I was not able to have my own kids and walked out on a womanizer and spendthrift husband. So, I have known a few ups and downs.
Posted by: KiwiTricia | June 1, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Please realize that many or even most of the wild comments are aiming to prevent unification among Democrats, by those who do not represent the majority and/or republicans in “operation chaos”.
Keep your eye on the ball – Democrats in 2008.
Posted by: Brian | June 1, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Tracy….I’ve read that rumor too. Its her right hand person…Huma. Check it out, very hard to get info on google but keep digging. They seem to have had something going on for a while now…imagine that….with all the media against Hillary Clinton, because all the media is sexist and hates her…but they don’t report her affair and they have Never reported the Clinton v. Paul civil trial going on Right Now concerning Hillary’s campaign fraud during the senatorial run. She should be in jail, with Bill, not being considered for a cabinet seat or the supreme court or any other govt. job ever again. Enough of the Clinton drama….they do nothing but draw scandal, shady people and load of cash for themselves. Well done Hillary, you’re a beacon of light for women everywhere. Just lie-cheat-steal-misspeak and miss-remember your way to the top and if the going gets rough, cry foul and blame everyone as a sexist pig. You’re a real hero.
Posted by: twotraps | June 1, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Bill Clinton was the best president, ever.
Posted by: mary | June 2, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Bill Clinton was the best president, ever.
Posted by: mary | June 2, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
twotraps: I was not aware that media is now allowing mention of the Paul vs Clinton trial since previous comments have not been posted. It is Bill Clinton but does involve Hillary’s senatorial campaign. It is a civil case not a criminal case at this time. Official court documents are on a website. I just wish Hillary if she always had political ambitions would have remembered the phrase “Caesar’s wife must be above suspicion.”
Posted by: KiwiTricia | June 2, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
kiwitricia….Never read the Ceaser’s wife quote before. You’re right on, it is a civil case against Bill Clinton. Hillary was allowed by Judge Munoz to testify after the trial. My point is that the Clintons are involved in a trial for campaign fraud that is not being reported in the news. I find it shocking that we can go on and on about every little detail, reading into every tiny nuance of what might have been implied in what someone said……………….but a candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America is involved in a civil trial for fraud and its not in the news. Hillary and Bill go together. They were together when she got all her ‘experiece’ in the White House and together now.
At the DNC meeting it came up that all candidates signed an agreement to uphold the DNC rules and soon after all other candidates took their name off the balot and agreed not to campaign in MI and FL. The Clinton campaign acutally came out and made a statement that MI and FL ‘would not count’ in the end.
The Clinton lawyer Ickes said that there was nothing specific in the agreement they signed to take their names off the ballot.
They violated the ‘spirit’ of the agreement and are getting away with it. The same argument goes not when anyone says that the civil case is against Bill Clintona and Hillary had nothing to do with it. You’ve really got to be drunk to give her a pass at this stage, these two are the great benders and manipulators of the law. They are fascinating to watch but really ought to be in jail.
Posted by: twotraps | June 2, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Sure,this is GUTTER journalism about
a certain SCUMBAG drifting down from a certain W*0RR0R*0USE owner in 1920′s H0LLYW00D and ,on its way to DC, going under a certain bridge at CHAPPAQUIDDICK, before COMING HOME TO ROOST as a TUMOR in a certain brain that happens to be SENAT0Rial.
In case of wonderings about the connection, just think what memoirs Vince, Norma, Mary-Jo, and Gloria Swanson are writing on the above.
Posted by: nway | June 2, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Wow. My innocuous post was…removed. Creepy and strange…I’ll move on to less paranoid forums, I guess.
Posted by: slj | June 2, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
“Bimbo eruptions”, or Bill “erupting in bimbos”?
Posted by: Aaron | June 2, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
twotraps: Yes, I agree. But, trying to stay American – Innocent until proven guilty! But, so many of them. In one of my comments above, I state that I work with Juvenile Probation but not directly with the juveniles. Too old! Enjoy my computer work and statistics now. Probably heard, seen and read it all. Probation conditions are very clear and signed off by the Judge, probation officer, kid and parents, so what part of NO do you not understand type of thing. Rules are rules or back to Court you go. Yes, I am mind-boggled about the MI and FL situation. Ickes just will not admit he originlly demanded the 100% loss when the rest orginally agreed to a 50% loss like the GOP. Hopefully, we can move on. Must now get some sleep for work tomorrow!
Posted by: KiwiTricia | June 2, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
twotraps,
I just put the name in Google and it returned over 5 mil hits. I will check it out tomorrow after work and let you know if there is anything to all of this or not. Thanks for the info.
And hey, we shouldn’t be surprised if it is true. If Bill can have Arab business friends and dealings I guess she feels it is ok for her to sample the mocha-ness of an Arab chick……….
Posted by: Tracy | June 2, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
Mr Clinton is well known about his weakness toward the opposite sex.He was almost impeached, barred to practice law , stained the White House and Monica’s dress ( by the way Hillary as 3 doors away when it happened )The guys is a disgrace as a man. (dog) and he is pathological liar.( remember the video clip and his finger claiming never having the affair ) This is nothing but old news.I don’t care what he does now , he is not a President anymore. One thing is for sure I don’t him back in the White House. If Hillary had divorced his sorry *** I could give her my vote but I won’t as long as he is tagging along.
Posted by: idontbelieveanything | June 2, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
its already impossible for obama to win in November…..crap like this only further eradicates any chance at the slightest hint of success the obama campaign may have had…..
Posted by: chris | June 2, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
forget about the prosperous economy, the international credibility and trust, Head Start, MILLIONS of jobs, and overall good years America enjoyed under the Clinton Administration……all that matters is sex…….way to keep your eye on the ball idiots….
Posted by: chris | June 2, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
did you know that obama has paid superdelegates since 2005, chose his donor over his constituents when they suffered in substandard housing during winter, lies through his teeth, inspires his “supporters” to be racist, sexist, ignorant, arrogant and naive and his spiritual “guides” spew hatred and discourse, even while his children sit and listen to it?
Posted by: chris | June 2, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
did you know that barack obama is the best kind of politician? the pseudo-cult-leader kind? according to his followers: he can do no wrong; when it appears he has, it doesn’t matter; anyone who doesn’t support him is racist; he can unite everyone, even when he inspires his followers to hate on others; his spiritual/religious friends are apparently more comfortable spewing hatred, then love, compassion and understanding?
Posted by: chris | June 2, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
Bill Clinton’s sexual partners are not anyone’s business and the Clinton marriage is their own business.
So I thought a lot of the article was tacky and crass. BUT, the info on his business dealings and relationship with Burkle were disturbing. Acting as gopher between Kazakhstan’s unsavory leaders and American businessmen is not the role a Presidential spouse should play. And all those unexplained millions of dollars for “advice” and “introductions” is a GOP attack ad waiting to happen.
Still–if the article had concentrated on the business interests it would have been too short to run since the Clintons have completely stonewalled on that info. I suppose that’s why there was so much filler on Bill’s character flaws.
Posted by: Krista | June 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Like we did not know. Clinton (either Bill or Hilary) are crooked, nasty, deceptive and evil. It’s them two against everyone. Everyone is after them; everyone wants to seem them fall; everyone doesn’t understand them — yes, but we do not need to know about them anymore. Let them disappear forever. I hate the Clintons, and I hope that Chelsea is sterile — for that would be the end of those that bad seed.
Posted by: lavampire | June 2, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
I’m so tired of all the crap is been thrown at Obama!!!Everytime some newspaper decides to make public a Clintons story, we have all kind of people willing to jump to conclusion, as if Obama has something to do with such decision! Grow up people; how can you be so sure, and get to the conclusion by wich such allegations should’ve been made by the Obama campaign, or by the Obama supporters? I don’t agree with this article, but stop blaming Obama for the Clintons issues, as if we wouldn’t have had bad press of the Clintons before, regardless of the Obama’s decision to run for President! Obama has nothing to do with this article, period!
Posted by: roch20 | June 2, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
LOL Diverson to keep pastor problems in the shadows. I love the media.
Posted by: Really | June 2, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am
Hmmm…bet you will see one of these gals show up with some semen DNA and her hand out for some of Clinton’s hush money he get from the Dubai & Suadi arabs and keeps on the Cayman Islands and won’t report on taxes . . .
Posted by: US VOTER | June 2, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
I was really getting tired of the ‘on day one’ and ‘everyone knows’. Glad it is ending.
Obama rules.
Posted by: DenisR | June 2, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Americans must really dislike Hillary if they have chosen an unknown Senator to be president!
I guess those educated voters for Obama did their homework.
Posted by: superdelegate | June 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Lance:
McCain is too old to ride a bike, How do you expect him to RUN a country?
Posted by: Sheryl | June 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Hey Jack,
You know as well as MOST of Americans that MSM uses fear to manipulate their agenda.
Obama has gotten this far because of Grassroots, and he will win in Nov. Because Americans are smarter than you give them credit for. Well I cant speak for the over 65 crowd that supports Hillary. They are still hypnotized by MSM.
Posted by: Sheryl | June 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
If you think Bill is so great, then why don’t you send him your daughter for his own personal use. It’s HARD on the campaign trail, and these endless bouts of public anger are Bill screaming for some physical stress relief!!! Go ahead and send your daughters and wives to “comfort” him… What’s the worse that could happen??? Don’t you TRUST him. I mean just ask Juanita Broaddrick, he respects women, and he adores younger ones.
Posted by: pity | June 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I just hope that when Clinton inevitably gets behind Obama the will continue to swallow everything she tells them.
Im sure they will. I would hope so anyways.
Posted by: Sheryl | June 2, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Does anyone else worry or wonder about why everyone is so afraid to tackle the Clintons? They have slithered out of numerous scandals, legal proceedings, dirty dealings and philandering. Why are so many afraid of them?
Does anyone else see how angry they get when things don’t go their way? They are angry because they feel they are entitled to the presidency.
I am glad that people with those values will not be in the white house. Their last time in the white house was embarrassing enough. They worry about Barack’s flag pin, but don’t mention even a whisper of Pres. Clinton’s immoral activities in the white house or his neglect of security while Al Queda built up for 9/11.
Barack Obama is patriotic in the best sense and has the quality of character and honesty to be President.
Posted by: anne | June 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Is this more tabloid fodder and innuendo to discredit the Clintons again, so that those who support Hillary will leave her support in order to unite the Party? Smells like it. It won’t work. We have been through hell and high water with the Clintons because of such hypocrits. Some people never see themselves in this destructive light, and we will not tolerate their evil this time. Go find Ken Starr, the Hutchinsons, Bob Barr, and all of the hypocrits who choose to play this kind of game.
Hillary is the most qualified candidate. If she is not the nominee, McCain will win. We are through playing the political double standards. No Party is sacred. The DNC rules committee is no wiser than the lowly voters. We know who is credible and who is not.
Posted by: georgia | June 2, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Whether Bill Clinton cheats on his wife, has nothing really to do with her ability to be a great president (we already know he does). The Vanity Fair article should not influence anyone’s support for Hillary.
I do find it totally ridiculous for some of Hillary’s supporters to somehow blame Obama for this article. It seems any time anything negative surfaces about Hillary, Obama gets blamed. Regardless of what you may think of him, I think Sen. Obama has displayed class and respect for Hillary, even when she disrespected him. Of course, that is much easier to do when you’re winning, but he has been consistent.
That’s why Hillary seems like a spoiled brat to many. Had she run a positive, respectful campaign, she would have had a much better chance of winning the nomination, or being VP. Her attacks on Obama shouldn’t be rewarded, and her supporters blaming Obama for everything that goes wrong for her is just plain idiotic.
Posted by: Dean | June 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
An enduring myth is that Obama is just a flashy showman without substance…. Nothing could be further from the truth. His policies and demonstrated understanding of the country’s problems and how to effectively deal with the necessary politics involved in implementing solutions for them are miles ahead of the opposition. The man is tough, fair minded, and practical. These qualities will make him a great leader… unlike his opponenents who’s qualities suggest they would only be fair leaders. It is interesting that none of the three candidates has been CEO of anything….ever… except for their own campaigns. By that slender standard… Obama is the only one demonstrating mastery of executive management. But that is only one of several important abilities needed for the job. The only one that McCain seems to believe he is better at than Obama is being a tough military leader. I don’t believe it. Obama is young, energetic, a fast and effective learner, creative, and has good will. The most important thing, is that in addition to all his highly positive and constructive attributes, he possesses the good sense to be tough when necessary.
Get down in the trenches Barack…. and do for America what has to be done. Show us what it’s like to do what’s necessary when you have to, but not be limited by it and thereby bring positive uplifting progress in many areas that have been sadly neglected or deliberately downplayed for the selfish benefit of more powerful constituencies in the past.
Obama 08!
Posted by: jake | June 2, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Steve, because Bill balanced the budget in the ’90′s means nothing. He’s not running for president. Hillary can’t even balance the budget of her campaign.
Even with Bill’s help, I don’t see hillary dramatically improving her budget/finance skills. My wife could teach me everything she knows about brain surgery and talk me through an operation, but I doubt you would let me operate on you.
Posted by: Dean | June 2, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
It’s not a cool story to be doing when we have so many issues…but the guy who wrote it I think is DeeDee Myers husband right?
Posted by: dl | June 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
and Bill didn’t balance the budget…the republican congress forced him to.
revisionist history everyone.
Remember after Bill was elected we lost the congress and lost ground…all the way down to 2000.
Posted by: dl | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
See, he continues to cheapen her. And he wants us to put him back in the White House. The message Saturday fron the RBC was, “We don’t want them back in the White House.”
Democracy has prevailed. Now let us unite.
Posted by: Bh in Phoenix | June 2, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
The NSM has sunk to a new low. I didn’t think it was possible. Should have known better.
Enuf said.
Posted by: NIck Dorsey | June 2, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
The MSM has sunk to a new low. I didn’t think it was possible. Should have known better.
Enuf said.
Posted by: NIck Dorsey | June 2, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
I guess we are so used to being lied to, deceived, taken for granted by our Government that someone comes out and tries to raise the standard of politics to a level of civility, of hope and inject a note of optimism and positivity that we are so suspicious of his intentions.
Obama is not perfect, but then no one is, however if we are honest and take a close look at how he conducted his campaign, then by far his has been one of the most decent campaigns in a very long time.
His behavior matters as it is an indication of how he will conduct himself as PResident. But then again, we are the people that fell for George Bush’s conniving, devilish ways, so we really get what we are only willing to see.
Maybe, Obama is ahead of his time… who knows, I’d like to think we can regain some sense of decency back in the White House, but then maybe I’m the dreamer.
Posted by: nerakami | June 3, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Who cares!!!!! Get this Pur-Dumb guy off the street. He is dangerous to the society. He is obviously delusional as he makes up stories. It is unfortunate that Dee Dee Myers is married to this guy.
Posted by: Jim Richmond | June 3, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm