By Nitya

Jun 2, 2008 12:48pm

Bill Clinton: ‘This May Be the Last Day I’m Ever Involved in a Campaign of This Kind’

ABC News’ Sarah Amos Reports: Speaking to a crowd in Milbank, SD former President Bill Clinton admitted that today could be the last time he has such an active role in presidential politics.

"I want to say also that this may be the last day I’m ever involved in a campaign of this kind. I thought I was out of politics, ’til Hillary decided to run. But it has been, one of the greatest honors of my life to go around and campaign for her for president," said Clinton as he began his speech.

Watch the VIDEO HERE.

It was certainly not a long thought – nor something he seemed to want to dwell on. But for a man who has rarely shown even an inkling of defeat in the past year, even uttering the words says a lot.

User Comments

It’s sad to see how Howard Dean ruined this primary. Democratic party resembles communist party with super eliteS deciding the fate of the nation.
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Posted by: frieda | June 2, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Don’t be Sad, Bill!
You could always Open Up a Hooters
Restaurant!
You could go back to making nasty
partisan speeches at radical colleges
and get paid millions for that acid
tongue of yours! Adios, Bill!

Posted by: reaganfan | June 2, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Makes people wonder how much longer it will take for them to realize that they LOST! Goodbye and good riddance to the WORST political couple on our planet! The rotten tactics used against an opponent of your own party will go down in history. The excuses they have had to make all during this campaign are disgusting and so many of us can’t wait for them to leave – leave already!

Posted by: Disparaged | June 2, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Not so fast. I don’t interpret it as you do. I think he is saying he will not campaign for Obama. Good for him. Hillary will win as an independent. Hillary supporters will not be maneuvered into the corrupt Democratic fold.
http://www.PresidentShe.com

Posted by: ladiesfirst | June 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Bravo, now let’s get on with the general election and uniting the democratic party. This is very disturbing to most Americans. Your campaign has been very strong but to keep threatening to bring the results of the DNC to yet another process is NOT in the best interest of the American people. I think doing so will result in the complete destruction of the Clinton era.
This is campaign no longer a reasonable fight it has become nasty and older women are fighting a battle that is noble, but to keep suggesting that someone is stealing votes for the Clinton’s is totally absurd, not to mention dividing the democratic party along gender, etchnicity and religious lines.
The current DNC committee was built by Bill Clinton. Time to end this nasty battle.
Super delegates please step up and vote one way or the other.
Like a race horse that breaks it’s leg they have to put down as a humane thing to do??? Something has got to give TUESDAY June 3rd. I switched my vote from Clinton to support OBAMA 2008.

Posted by: Lou | June 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Typo corrected: Bravo, now let’s get on with the general election and uniting the democratic party. This is very disturbing to most Americans. Your campaign has been very strong but to keep threatening to bring the results of the DNC to yet another process is NOT in the best interest of the American people. I think doing so will result in the complete destruction of the Clinton era.
This campaign is no longer a reasonable fight it has become nasty and older women are fighting a battle that is noble, but to keep suggesting that someone is stealing votes from Hillary Clinton is totally absurd, not to mention dividing the democratic party along gender, etchnic and religious lines.
The current DNC committee was built by Bill Clinton. Time to end this nasty battle.
Super delegates please step up and vote one way or the other.
Like a race horse that breaks it’s leg they have to put down as a humane thing to do??? Something has got to give TUESDAY June 3rd. I switched my vote from Clinton to support OBAMA 2008.

Posted by: Lou | June 2, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Frieda,
Howard Dean did not make the rules of the Democratic primary race!
Where do you people get this stuff?

Posted by: Mary, MI | June 2, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Lou wrote: “Bravo, now let’s get on with the general election and uniting the democratic party.”
I’m not interested in unity with Obama and that Chicago southside mob he calls a church.
Or his Syrian Iraqi Muslim poltical godfathers Rezko and Auchi, who still own his mansion grounds.
Or unity with his flag stomping bombing Marxist buddy Ayers.
Or unity with his Black Panthers wife Michelle. Can’t wait for that video to come out.
Or unity with his Excelon puppet master Axelrod.
Nope, just not interested in unity with that at all.
Hillary ’08

Posted by: rd | June 2, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

In every presidential election they have won, the Democrats have solidified their historic link to white workers, not dismissed them. Obama and the champions of a new party coalition appear to think that everything has suddenly changed, simply because of the force of their own desires. In any event, Obama had shown no ability thus far to attract the one constituency that has always spelled the difference between victory and defeat for the Democratic Party. The party must now decide whether to go along with Obama and renounce its own heritage — and tempt the political fates.

Posted by: david from texas | June 2, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Obama will never win, too bad McCain will win.

Posted by: CHANGE MAN | June 2, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

The Barack Obama campaign and its sympathizers have begun to articulate much more clearly what they mean by their vague slogan of “change” – nothing less than usurping the historic Democratic Party, dating back to the age of Andrew Jackson, by rejecting its historic electoral core: white workers and rural dwellers in the Middle Atlantic and border states.
Without a majority of those voters, the Democrats have, since the party’s inception in the 1820s, been incapable of winning the presidency. The Obama advocates declare, though, that we have entered an entirely new political era. It is not only possible but also desirable, they say, for Democrats to win by turning away from those whom “progressive” pundits and bloggers disdain variously as “Nascar man,” “uneducated,” “low information” whites, “rubes, fools, and hate-mongers” who live in the nation’s “shitholes.”
Having attempted, with the aid of a complicit news media, to brand Hillary Clinton as a racist — by flinging charges that, as the historian Michael Lind has shown, belong “in black helicopter/grassy knoll territory,” Obama’s supporters now fiercely claim that Clinton’s white working class following is also essentially racist. Favoring the buzzword language of the academic left, tinged by persistent, discredited New Left and black nationalist theories about working-class “white skin privilege,” a vote against Obama has become, according to his fervent followers, “a vote for whiteness.”

Posted by: david from texas | June 2, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

It has become increasingly apparent that it is too much to hope for that Clinton and her supporters would simply “get real.”

Posted by: Justinteim | June 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Bill Clinton: ‘This May Be the Last Day I’m Ever Involved in a Campaign of This Kind’
From your lips to God’s ears, Bill!!!!!!
PLEASE!!

Posted by: Lindy | June 2, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

I don’t see Obama winning the GE. He will not have Clinton’s supporters votes…17+million. His nomination will be short-lived. Sorry, Clinton controls this nomination…without her, Obama is toast!

Posted by: jack | June 2, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

You Promise

Posted by: ESH | June 2, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Let me cry you a river Bill….

Posted by: Karen | June 2, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Angie, Hillary did not rip the party to pieces. The DNC, with Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, and Kennedy did, along with the “StupidDelegates”. Quit drinking your Kool Aid now and face reality….Obama will NEVER win the GE!

Posted by: jack | June 2, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

angie….You hit it right on the head…

Posted by: truthtell | June 2, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

I am interested in the tone of the Clinton campaign right now. Some of the campaign are still making very bullish noises but then every now and again someone says something along these lines. I think the Clinton campaign does know its losing but wants to end strongly for whatever reason. Whether its to give her more leverage for the VP slot or to launch a future run I don’t know.
I do wonder mind why she seems prepared to risk all for 2008. Does she have private polling that shows Obama winning ’08 and therefore knows she isn’t going to get to run until 2016, when she would be nearing on 70, so perhaps she realises this is her one shot?

Posted by: markymark | June 2, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

It’s time for Obama. Clinton era was great. But it’s time for change. All the intelligent people (Warren Buffet, Rupert Murdoch ..) have realized it along with million of Americans. McCain has made too many compromises in senate. He is a great guy too. Hillary would have become a another good president with a lots of new ideas. Not sure if she could muster 60 votes in senate to get anything done. Obama will bring great things to America. I am convinced. God bless America.

Posted by: Al, San Francisco | June 2, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Just like it took the Florida recount fiasco to show the nation how messed up the mechanics of voting were, I hope this primary season shows the Dems how messed up their selection process is.
Dems need to fix this primary mess before the next election cycle!!

Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 2, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Bill,
Did your wife get the memo?

Posted by: Monica | June 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

THIS IS CALLED FOOD FOR THE REPUBLICANS – In his statement about leaving the church Obama defended it, said it was not anti-white or anti-American, and said he was doing it to protect the church from further scrutingy. No apology, no rejection. So how does this “solve his problem”?
http://www.charlotte.com/171/story/648439.html

Posted by: Frankie | June 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Thank you Bill Clinton for NOT CAMPAIGNING FOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. I hope that we Hillary Clinton supporters can convince her to not campaign or support obama as well.
Howard Dean has taken the DNC and destroyed the very word “democracy” by pushing the nomination for obama. In my book this means that the DNC has stole the nomination from Clinton. I will not vote for obama if he is nominated. My vote will go to John McCain. Never obama.
And I don’t give a DIDDLY what you obama followers call this. You cannot dictate to me how to vote just because you follow the cult leader. So just get the heck out of my way. I’ll vote for JOHN McCAIN – never obama.

Posted by: Lou | June 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

jack…why are you blaming anyone but HRC; Flordia and Mi…? They broke the rules….stop whinning….if I break the law I go to jail…

Posted by: truthtell | June 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Whew. Well then. Good riddance.
And take your wife with you.

Posted by: Doug | June 2, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

How can you people say mccain will win. The guy is OLD. JOhn Murtha the real “Straight-Talker” said that being president is no job for an OLD guy. The guy will be dragging loooong bush coattails. I thought it was really funny that no cameras were allowed in for the bush/mccain fundraiser. Voters will realize that this country can NOT afford another bush term. Obama 2008 will be Great!!!

Posted by: pt | June 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Good to see that the Clintons are starting to see the reality of the situation. They lost the nomination. Now they must get over their own egos and help Barack Obama defeat the 3rd term of George W. Bush (AKA McCain.)

Posted by: Marvin Marks | June 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Well, there’s really nothing of surprise here. In a totally unveiled fashion, Slick is letting everybody know that he has no intention of actually campaigning for Obama. This, of course, goes against what he’s stated on many, many occasions — that both he and HRC would campaign vigorously for whoever the Democratic nominee would be. I guess what he should have said is that he would campaign for whoever the candidate would be, as long as that candidate’s last name was Clinton. As with everything else Slick and HRC have done in this campaign, they have pretty much acted according to the Clinton script.

Posted by: J. T. Bigglesworth | June 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Jack: If you are correct and Obama does not win the GE, it will be because of HRC and her supporters who are more concerned with her personal gain, and putting a ‘woman’ in the WH than they are in defeating the Republicans. I cannot and will not believe that HRC will turn her back on her principles (you know, the ones she’s been claiming to stay in the race to preserve). To do so is to hand the elction to the Republicans. When all is said and done, the goal should be to oust the current ‘regime’, not perpetuate it by vindictiveness.

Posted by: Lindy | June 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Lou…you’re a jerk….I hope you loose your home, your kids end up in Iraq, and you cannot afford to drive your car!
You are NOT a Dem if you would do that. And the reason Hillary is loosong is her own selfishness in this race. her campaign is a shambles.

Posted by: newera | June 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Ding Dong, the WITCH IS DEAD!

Posted by: hod | June 2, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

The world of bias, bigotry and divisiveness is very large in this country. We are on stage at this very moment to see if we have learned from the past (ours, other countries, etc) that we are more alike than we are different, and that in transcending those differences, we can bring about healing: local and global. It saddens me that we have grown so little over such a long time.

Posted by: Name withheld | June 2, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Lindy…well said

Posted by: newera | June 2, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Amen formerhillary. Do I really want a President with no plan on how to wage a campaign after 2/5? We already have a President who has no long-term strategic thought and we don’t need another.
Hillary lost for one reason only, her candidacy was flawed in its design and execution. When they found an approach that worked, it was too late. She did not lose because she’s a woman.

Posted by: Richard McCabe | June 2, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Did you relay that message to your wife?

Posted by: PMILLER | June 2, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

When you use the word “may”, your sentence does not mean anything. Eight years of painful waiting, 3,000 days of manipulative planning…all are in vain now. But you still have plenty of beautiful stuff out there. Unless Hillary has more time to watch you now.

Posted by: mampang | June 2, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

I don’t believe that Hillary or Bill will campaign for Obama. They don’t have it in them, despite her talk of unity when it’s over. They will be in Martha’s Vineyard.

Posted by: Sarah | June 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Richard
you are wrong … Obama never had a plan he will be humiliated weighed measured and destroyed in November!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Lou how has the DNC stolen this from Hillary. It was never hers to begin with. Although she would argue with me about that. Half the country supports Obama. And she ran a bad campaign. And I honestly don’t care how you vote. Just don’t blame this on the DNC.

Posted by: erin | June 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

It’s no coincidence that the dirtier and uglier Hillary got in this campaign the more the super delegates flocked to Obama.

Posted by: Bison | June 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

I would love to see how many millions the Clintons make off this failed race for the nomination! This was never about winning for them it was all about the book deals, speaking engagements and launching their daughter into politics. For the Hillary fans that don’t believe it…stayed tuned. And be prepared to apologize when you see the Clinton’s tax return next year, the books they write, and last but not least Lil’ Clinton’s run for the Senate.

Posted by: How Many Millions | June 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

What I find amusing is that the Obamabots just automatcally think this clown, Obama, will actually become President! Obamabots, you are so dillusional…….the GOP loves what has happened to the Democratic party, the division, the fighting, the backbiting…..I think it’s great! Regardless if Hillary is the nominee or Sodama, McCain will prevail in November. Lets see, as an American, would I be more inclined to vote for a proven war hero, who has served our country with fortitude, honor, and respect…..or, would I support a Muslim raised racist, who actually hates America, has never served a day in the armed forces, who lies and who has a wife that admittedly in public said she hates America. Sorry, Obamabots, its over……Obama will NEVER become President. McCain 08!

Posted by: Carpe' Diem | June 2, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Geez that is the first intelligent thing Bill has said…in a long time.
Hill would be in a much better position if Bill never said a word during this process. He has come off as a loud mouthed idiot throughout this entire process. She should have left him in ’98…which is about when I gave up on him based on his morals, or lack thereof…

Posted by: Paul | June 2, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Sarah
as well the shouldnt campaign for Obama… the need for the best candidate outweighs party loyalty I guarantee you… we will not be railroaded!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Bison
you are nothing more than a Big $ss…in addition to being wrong about the Clintons!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Wow. Who woke Slick Willie up!!
Oh, and Billy boy, this is past the last time many of us will think fondly of you. Myself, I hate racists, and liars, and rapists, etc.

Posted by: jeffp | June 2, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Good luck tothe so called Democratic party,you just lost another member.
Your such a stupid party tolet Obama run this year and not in 2016,after Hillary.

Posted by: Robert White | June 2, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Carpe Diem
you are right… Obama has seized nothign more than a big chip on his shoulder and needs to go to vegas to play it when he gets blown out in november! perhaps by Hillary!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Posted by: Carpe’ Diem | Jun 2, 2008 1:28:02 PM
You sir are a McCain Troll, you are paid to spread lies and misinformation.

Posted by: Bison | June 2, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Good now he can go climb back on that friend’s big plane and go on about his business of selling out the American people and diddling around on his wife without the public being privy to his antics.
GOOD RIDDENCE!

Posted by: Brian | June 2, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Now that the “Powers That Be” [mainstream media, who's owned by big business, who's owned by banks, who's owned by the Central Bank (Ferderal Reserve), who's made up of THEE WEALTHIEST, MOST UNSCRUPULOUS, MOST GREEDY group of SCUM ALIVE] have SUCCEEDED in CENSORING/SHUNNING & DEMEANING 2 of THE GREATEST candidates EVER HAVE TO RUN for the presidency (Dennis Kucinich & Mike Gravel), we have ONLY ONE LAST GREAT HOPE…RALPH NADER!!!
It’s NOT “wasting your votes”…THINK ABOUT THIS!: EVEN IF “THEY” will have FIXED this election THRU TO THE END, AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE GIVEN IT A SHOT (NOT voting for Nader will only ENSURE one of the 3 CORRUPT ELITISTS of winning)!!!
We ALL ALREADY KNOW that neither McCain nor Clinton is the person for this job, but I DON’T believe you ALL know the TRUTH regarding Obama…PLEASE watch the VERY INFORMATIVE & FACTUAL videos listed on the following website (they are ONLY A FEW MINUTES each)…simply log onto y o u t u b e ( dot) c o m ( s l a s h ) u s e r ( s l a s h ) i g s p a l , then click on ANY &/or ALL videos on that page & the NEXT page (to get to the next page, merely click on the number “134″ next to the word “Favorites”)!!! (For those who’ve ALREADY looged in, THESE ARE ALL NEW VIDEOS!)
IF you TRULY CARE about our future, you will watch & LISTEN to these videos…after learning the FACTS, PLEASE HELP TO PASS THEM ON, ASAP!!!!!

Posted by: Keith | June 2, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

obviously you have never lived in a communist country. anybody who has- knows how neo-conservatism and neo communist are virtually the same thing. I suggest you travel. best of luck.

Posted by: evan thyme | June 2, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

I guess this ingrate won’t put the same effort into campaigning for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Shannon,Dallas,Texas | June 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Robert White if this doesnt end the traditional Democratic party it will in November afeter we demand that Speaker pelosi step down and the fearless folowers start their own party way from centrist democrats!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

dem38:
Hey, the GOP is glad the weaker candidate, Sodama, may be the nominee. We’re scared sh*tless of Hillary….she was a much STRONGER candidate than the bimbo, Sodama! McCain 08!

Posted by: Carpe' Diem | June 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

PUT HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON WHERE THEY BLONG IN PRISON THEY ARE CRIMINALS THEY HAVE A HOLE LOT OF FELONYS AGAINST THEM
IF YOU DID WHAT THEY DID THEY WOULD PUT YOU UNDER THE PRISON DONT PUT CRIMINALS IN THE WHITE HOUSE GO TO AMAZON.COM AND GET HILLARY UNCENSORED DVD SEE FOR SELF

Posted by: DONALD WALKER | June 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Think again! B.Obam better have Hillary on the ticket –cause there is alot of 50ish white women who know Hillary’s issues are close to home with us. She’s proven on that he’s not, and there are alot of us who would vote for McCain if Hil is not on the ticket.

Posted by: Dee R. | June 2, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

He is one of the many people she has surrounded herself with that have dragged her down. Seems she has quite a few like him running her show. No small wonder she failed.

Posted by: Bh In Phoenix | June 2, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Carpe’ Diem……you fuel the pervasiveness bigotry that is in our world today. You just can’t get pass the fact that Obama has dark skin, irrespective of having been raised by White grandparents and having a white Mom. There is far too much ugliness in this world of politics without us going on the attack. Why don’t you give it a rest? Obama is a Christian. Unfortunately, there have been many wars waged in the name of Religion. And, your words reflect that mentality.

Posted by: Name Withheld | June 2, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Bison, not getting any money for posts….just stating facts…..it would be wise if you realized what the facts are….McCain will trounce Sodama!
McCain 08!

Posted by: Carpe' Diem | June 2, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I am reregistering on Wed. And I know many others who are leaving the democratic party. Obama frightens me as he is inexperienced and what little I know about him is not good. I’m not so easily swayed. I am particularly upset with the way Obama supporters and the liberal media have treated the Clintons. Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents the democrats have had in decades, even with all his flaws. Hillary is the stronger candidate right now and has won the majority of the democratic vote. This is a tragic, turning point in time for the democratis. Enjoy your defeat!

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

If Hillary can’t get a majority of her own party, she’s not going to get a majority of the general public. Period.
And the stuff she and Bill have done since leaving the WH is just NOW beginning to be vetted by the MSM (now that the press is no longer intimidated by another Clinton presidency).
Hillary’s campaign against a virtual unknown was a disaster. What makes any rational person think that she’d win over an established brand like McCain?
Hillary’s only hope now is based on inflaming her supporters passions and not in anything rational or reasonable. (And she’s shown us that’s how she’d govern.)
Hillary supporters, it’s time to get real. Hillary (with a lot of help from you) has turned even MORE of the electorate against her and so has done this to HERSELF.
The race is done. The winner’s known. And good riddance to the losers!

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | June 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

This is terrible news for the Democratic party. Obama will not win. Another 4 years of republican, here we go!

Posted by: Angie | June 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Jesus
well funny you say that because Obama axelrod et all are using the Chicago machine to clone Bush and it will be as elitist and protecting of big interests as Bush was like say for the insurance industry!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

It’s sad to see what happened to Bill Clinton while campaigning for Hilary. I used to really respect the man, even with his flaws and all but he got hitched to a sinking ship and it took him down as well.
I don’t think his time in politics is over but he surely needs time to recoup for this disaster.

Posted by: Douglas | June 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Boy, can’t make a simple statements without the Obama people and their gutter mouth come arunning.

Posted by: Oldgaman | June 2, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Carpe Diem
Yea I may not vote for mccain but I may not have to,….these idiots think they are goign to carry NC in the falll … john Kerry had a better chance and you see what happened to him…

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

What many of you Obama supporters don’t understand is that we don’t like Obama. Hillary didn’t create Obama’s problems. He is the one who is responsible for his actions. Your attitude will only lose you more votes.

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Obama will not win the general election without the help of the Clinton family. Obama’s supporters, do you think all Hillary’s supporters are going to vote this inexperience and dishonest guy? He also threw all his pastors with 20 years relationship under the bus for his political career. Do you think american will be stupid to listen to him?

Posted by: Laura | June 2, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

HEY JACK SHE IS RIPPING UP THE PARTY BY NOT ACCEPTING HER LOST AND SUPPORT OBAMA AS FOR KOOLAID MY SIR YOU NEED TO WAKE UP FROM HILLARYS BRAIN WASHING OBAMA WILL WIN GE YES WE CAN YES WE CAN YES WE WILL FACE IT CLINTONS DONE!!!!

Posted by: angie | June 2, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Total irrational thinking on the part of bitter Hillary supporters. Talk about sore losers. Only one person could win this, and somebody had to finish second. Get over it.

Posted by: Sarah | June 2, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

douglas
regardless of what happens to Hillary.. President Clinton will become the next Denator from NY and being a former pres wil immediatly outrank .. the meek leader Harry Reid… John Q Adams did it! Hillary doesnt want to remain a senator whether she forces Obama to put her on the ticket or not… the rancid Obamabots can definitely put that in their pipe and smoke it!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

People LOVE IT when Holocaust victims are diminished for cheap political gain
exactly. or used to ingratiate themselves with a specific block of voters.
this jew, who lost cousins in that holocaust, will never vote for a man associated with farrakhan and wright.
JEWS DEMOCRATS FOR MC CAIN

Posted by: Frankie | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

sarah
you will reap the wirlwind for your discipleship to Obama and you deserve it!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

What I find amusing is that the Obamabots just automatcally think this clown, Obama, will actually become President! Obamabots, you are so dillusional…….the GOP loves what has happened to the Democratic party, the division, the fighting, the backbiting…..I think it’s great! Regardless if Hillary is the nominee or Sodama, McCain will prevail in November. Lets see, as an American, would I be more inclined to vote for a proven war hero, who has served our country with fortitude, honor, and respect…..or, would I support a Muslim raised racist, who actually hates America, has never served a day in the armed forces, who lies and who has a wife that admittedly in public said she hates America. Sorry, Obamabots, its over……Obama will NEVER become President. McCain 08!
Posted by: Carpe’ Diem | Jun 2, 2008 1:28:02 PM
Wow, what do i pick apart first?
1) McCain did serve honorably. For that, i commend him. However, that was DECADES ago. His honor doesn’t disappear for that service, but his ideology TODAY is what counts. He is in favor of all the Bush policies which has destroyed our nation economically and our standing in the world is extremely damaged due to these Bush policies that MCCAIN is in favor of. Based on this, he is NOT the choice of Americans today.
2) Obama is not a Muslim. He was NOT raised a Muslim. In fact, there’s not one shred of evidence that shows he was raised a Muslim. In fact, all evidence points to being raised agnostic and he “found” Jesus on his own later in life. So, that would make him a CHRISTIAN.
3) Sodoma? huh? Are you saying he’s like Saddam by putting their names together? How old are you? 3?
4) Obama? a racist? LOL… riiight… have you even heard ANYTHING he said? Oh wait, you’re going to try to pinpoint what the reverends say and equate that to Obama… riiight… Because they all share the same brain right? LOL. There is not ONE thing that Obama said that was outright racist… ever.
5) His wife said that she HATES America? Another flat out LIE. Why must you republicans resort to LYING? Please send me a link to anywhere that says this outright?
I could go on, but i think this picks apart your post.
Amazing we have this level of idiocy in the US who are part of the voting public.
VOTE ON THE ISSUES, not these supposed “Scandals” that are media manufactured.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Hillary lost. More comments trying to somehow blame it on Obama. Whatever.
For people who claim to be such “centrist Democrats” and “Reagan Democrats” you Clinton supporters sure have a lot of trouble just assuming responsibility.
Face it: she lost. And if you thought she was going to win and were so wrong, what makes you think you’re not wrong about Obama losing in the Fall again? No, no, I know this time you’re REALLY SURE you’re right. Right?

Posted by: John | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

For those that don’t know John McCain’s campaign has hired a room full of basement dwellers to troll these news threads and basically make intelligent political discourse imposable. You can tell who they are because, well, they sound like racist nut jobs!

Posted by: Bison | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Don’t let the door hit you on the back side on the way out the door.

Posted by: kutyadog | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Al in SF: You really think that what Murdoch and Buffet said was supporting Obama? What they did was to merely face the unfortunate reality that Obama was this season’s rockstar. If you think Murdoch is supporting Obama, you really need to wake up!

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

I have a question: Where do you think the Clintons will go when this is done? They almost HAVE to put in at least what passes as an effort for the party, or they give up all their vouchers and favors. She will be returning to her Senate seat, and if she wants ANY support in the future, she will have to play some ball, too. Now, you voters can hold grudges and blurt out whatever you like now, but if your heart is really telling you that you can’t pick someone you may not like, but intends to do 95% of the same things that your choice would have done; and you will select someone who has NO intention to address 80% of the things that really effect you…I am glad that my passport is current.

Posted by: MrMajek | June 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Angie
the party needs to be ripped up at the roots… mark my words…. NO MORE TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

On to Denver! You guys are so inspirational and Hillary will win it all, because of your focus and heart. She’s the leader we need and the leader America deserves. We’re witnessing a nomination theft between Obama, the DNC and the MSM. Hillary… all the way to the White House as President!!!!

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

David From Texas
In every presidential election they have won, the Democrats have solidified their historic link to white workers, not dismissed them.
—————————
Really? Who won the the “white workers” when Bill Clinton was elected?
HINT: It wasn’t Bill Clinton.
So much for historic links.
Actually, if it weren’t for Ross Perot (a Republican version of Hillary Clinton), Bill would have never been President.
And it was the Afrian American community that got Clinton elected – not the “white worker”. Unfortunately, Bill must have forgoten that small fact during Hillary’s campaign. Hillary would have NEVER drawn the votes from that demographic that Barack does.
States like WV and KY will go red. Rednecks and racist vote Republican – or Hillary in the democratic primary.

Posted by: The answer is.... | June 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Goodby and good riddance.We knew you weren’t going to be a team player and help campaign for Obama and based on what you did for Hillary, it is a blessing in disquise. I am sure you will be occupied with your investments in Dubai and other personal matters, which shall remain undisclosed as you have in the past. Next book “Clintons, Axis of evil”

Posted by: JJ | June 2, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

I hope former Pres. Bill Clinton will take back his words.
You are very respected as one of the elders in the Party, and you are still the member.
Your words are very discouraging especially to those who put the Party first, and personal feelings second!

Posted by: Peace | June 2, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Name Withheld…….you are such a farce! Nothing racial here….people of all color are Muslim…..maybe, you’re the racist with this line of thinking! The fact is, Sodama will be the nominee (YEA!), and it will be an EASY win for McCain in the fall because Sodama is such a WEAK candidate! If I were you, I would rethink my support of Sodama for a true American, John McCain…..or Hillary Clinton…..or Ralph Nader….any of the three are honored Americans…..Barry Obama, should go back to his homeland (Africa) and run for office…America and Americans don’t want him…..you will see the night of November 4th!

Posted by: Carpe' Diem | June 2, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

If Clinton is not on the ticket, I will vote Democratic for the first time in my life.

Posted by: bD | June 2, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

NEVER OBAMA. After the democratic parties stupdity during this primary. I will now and forever more be a
REPUBLICAN. Obama supporters are not to bright. Tell us all what Obama has ever achieved besides his political aspirations. Nothing

Posted by: Mary | June 2, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

mr majek
I told you wants goign to happen… it will transpire … .Pres Clinton will be senator or Gov of Ny and Hillary will run again in 2012 if Obama is dumb enough to reject her… you Obamabots are toast!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

As much as many of you think that Hillary can win the general election as an independent – it will not happen. There will not be ebough support OR money. She has barely scraped by the primary process, and is still in the red. Even if every last Hillary voter wrote her in, she would still lose. Remember, this is a GENERAL election. She will not win.
Now is when the real show begins – we will have a Nader situation again, pulling votes away someone who actually has a shot at winning.
I have my doubts about Obama, but I have already accepted that Hillary will not win the nomination, but there is NO WAY IN HELL I will support McCain. I cannot be a part of this lie that is “Iraqi Freedom”. Nevermind the economics, the freedom of choice.. I could go on and on and on…
I’ll take my chances with Obama.

Posted by: sigh | June 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Hello Bill, If dems dont stand together and have Obama clinch the presidency, you will be squarly guilty of your divisive politics. People cant be fooled by your lies at the stumps and moving the goal post to suit your wife’s unattainable ambition. You can spend rest of your life holding that cigar and keep your self busy right under the nose of HRC, probably she likes when you are busy.

Posted by: Mn | June 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

hillary and mccain are two faces of same coin……these two depend on the influence and money of the lobbyists….the only person whos different is obama….he came from nowhere and clinched nomination….iam sure he will win the general election……….the so called hillary supporters are fools….i dont understand how can people support such a selfish women…

Posted by: atif | June 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Yeah. He has trouble with hispanics, asians, seniors, those earning $50,000 or less, Reagan Dems, older women, whites, those without college degrees….hmmmm
It is obvious to anyone being objective that Rev. Wright etc.. has hurt him overall.
And now I hear his hold in the AA community is weakening – seems some AAs are upset that he is not sharing his money! Started with AA owned newspapers, radio stations and has grown.
What happens if he loses even a few percentage points of AA support? He is counting on AAs for his new electoral map. Oh, and he is counting on us too!
This is good news for George McGovern – the last nominee chosen by the Dems that did not have the popular vote – he may lose his “lowest electoral votes ever” title.
Some interesting info – sound familiar?
During the 1968 Democratic Convention, a motion was passed to establish a commission to reform the Democratic Party nomination process.[6] In 1969, McGovern was named chairman of the Commission on Party Structure and Delegate Selection; due to the influence of former McCarthy and Kennedy supporters on the staff, the commission significantly reduced the role of party officials and insiders in the nomination process, increased the role of caucuses and primaries, and mandated quotas for proportional black, women, and youth delegate representation.
The fundamental principle of the McGovern Commission—that primaries should determine the winner of the Democratic nomination—lasted throughout every subsequent nomination contest.
The McGovern Commission changes to the convention rules marginalized the influence of establishment Democratic figures (some of whom had lost the nomination to McGovern). Many refused to support him, with some switching their support to the incumbent President Richard Nixon through a campaign effort called “Democrats for Nixon”.

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

People LOVE IT when Holocaust victims are diminished for cheap political gain
exactly. or used to ingratiate themselves with a specific block of voters.
this jew, who lost cousins in that holocaust, will never vote for a man associated with farrakhan and wright.
JEWS DEMOCRATS FOR MC CAIN
Posted by: Frankie | Jun 2, 2008 1:40:15 PM
I’m a JEW who is for OBAMA. IN fact, most Jews who are *educated* are also for Obama…. why? because we have the brain power to understand that Obama does NOT equal Farakkan or Wright. Perhaps you missed those repudiations of Wright? We also understand that Obama has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Holocaust. How old was Obama during the Holocaust?
BTW, most of my family was killed during the Holocaust and those that remained fled to the US to start new lives… away from the family they lost and the possessions they had. So don’t go telling me about your story that you lost cousins…

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

JJ
you arent gonna get what you want even though thats all you have known in your lefe… Im right even though I dont know you and thats a crime!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Thanks Bill, now get the hell out of the way please.

Posted by: DS | June 2, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

The signs of the end are near, but not before she destroys any chance of putting a Democrat in the White House. Hilary is absolutely the worst thing to happen to American politics.

Posted by: Hosfac | June 2, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Excuse me, Richard McCabe, can I add one more to your list of reasons Hillary Clinton lost the primary? How about – she’s not qualified to be President of the United States?

Posted by: Jim | June 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Frustrated Clinton democrats I have some good news for you all. Look very carefully what a generous offer Mr. McCain is making by the end of first term. You can buy gas only $10/gal at McCain Gas Stations anywhere else $20/gal. Pay only $20,000/year each for Universal Health Insurance and get 10% discount on your total medical bills after meeting all deductibles. Available only at McCain HMO; anywhere else $40,000 or even more for same benefits. Mr. McCain has given highest priority to solving our energy problems, He needs to make strategic investments in our 53rd state of IRAQ. If that does not solve it he will invoke on the 54th state of IRAN. We cannot be short sighted and selfish. 100 years is not a big sacrifice. Just imagine our great grand children and their children will never have to rely on foreign oil when the war will be over. It will all be ours. Clinton democrats please vote McCain come November for a brighter prosperous McCain American Dream (MAD), a benefit you won’t qualify otherwise.

Posted by: SAQ | June 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

To tell you the truth I really don’t think of the Democratic party as my party anymore. This primary season has been quite a revelation to me. I have begun questioning many long – held beliefs that I have had about the party.
I always saw the Republicans as the bad guys in the black hats and the Democrats as the good guys in the white hats. I was raised in a politically active Democratic family and first volunteered to work for the party at age 8.
For me the Democratic party was the party that believed in social justice – for minorities, women, gays, the poor, the sick, the elderly, all disenfranchised and marginalized people. It was the party that believed in compassion toward one’s fellow man/woman.
Now that I look at the party, I no longer recognize it. I plan to vote for McCain in November if Obama is the nominee but I seriously doubt I will ever feel at home with the Republican party.

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

RossiMa, I’m tired of dynasties running this country. And my guess is so is half this country since they voted for Obama. So how it that stealing it from Hillary.

Posted by: erin | June 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

atif
dont even go on about lobbyists.. Obamas over a million donors is a facade to his lobbysist money startign with the insurance industry which is why he wont do universal healthcare!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Today you sing yes we can and tomorrow you’ll sing we’re canned.
Obama you’re on your own with your move on friends. <Papa has a brand new bag.

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

So late in the stage of the nomination, the result of the PR primary is a strong testament that BO can’t get Hispanic vote.

Posted by: Miariam | June 2, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Let them go independent and still get trounced by Obama. Good riddance Clintons.

Posted by: kravitz | June 2, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

RossiMa writes
“We’re witnessing a nomination theft between Obama, the DNC and the MSM.”
———————
You left out the majority of states, the majority of pledged delegates, the majority of super delegates, and the majority of democratic voters. (No one is buying Hillary’s contrived way of tabulating popular votes)
Man, seems like almost everyone is involved in the “theft”. It seems more likely that that Hillary simply lost.

Posted by: The answer is.... | June 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

erin
you are wrong just over half the primary votes were for Hillary and you wont get back that half in the GE sorry see ya!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

You Obama haters have eight years to get over it.
And you McCain supporters, get ready for a landslide defeat in November.

Posted by: kamenwati | June 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

My husband works for the gas company. Does that mean I too know how to connect a meter? NO.
Talk about entitlement – I guess every other candidate was just supposed to roll over & let Hillary win this thing. WHY?
The last time I listened to the mainstream media to make my decisions for me was, well, NEVER. To suggest that people are so easily swayed is to suggest that by all rights, Hillary should have won this back in February. But she didn’t.
All those who say they plan to leave the DNC, don’t let the door hit you in the behind on the way out. Oh, didn’t you know? Obama has brought over enough Independents and Republicans to offset the crybabies.

Posted by: Boo | June 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

I wanted to vote for Hillary, but alas I was not given the opportunity. I do not want to vote for John McCain either. But I will vote against Barack Obama. So will most of the Hillary supporters and the republicans. It’s not a vote for McCain, it’s a vote against Barack. I don’t vote party – I vote with my conscience, Barack isn’t ready, and I don’t want more of what we have now. Better the devil you know! Barack scares me. I’ll stick with McCain unless Hillary can pull out a nomination. And please, let go of the “yes we can” – seems like it should be “yes we can destroy the country”!

Posted by: Republican | June 2, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Baloney / Bologna ! Another ploy by the Rovian Clinton Campaign!

Posted by: Allan J Krueger | June 2, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

What’s being overlooked in light of this startling admission is that Clinton is as much admitting defeat as he is making it apparent that he’s not going to campaign for Senator Obama…am I alone in feeling upset about this? I don’t care how much you hate the Clintons- every democrat should be out there leading up to the General to ensure that we don’t get 4 years of more of the same.

Posted by: Sara | June 2, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

855 Super Delegates decide the nominee based on whatever criteria they choose. Not the 36 million American citizens that have voted in this primary.
So, please get a list and go argue with the super delegates about the issues you are worried about. The future of Roe v Wade, the Iraq war, the possible supreme court selections, any other rights we have or want, our economy, health care etc… for the next 4 years is ALL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY NOW.
WE DID OUR PART. WE VOTED IN THE PRIMARY.
Our vote for the general is not for sale. You cannot guilt or bribe or threaten or ridicule us into changing it.
You are wasting your time here. You might want to go sign up at johnmccain.com as we have and join us in our fight against BO.

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Kravits
you must not have been around in 92… Im not saying she will but Hillary still can run as an indpendant and win with less than 50 perce3nt… it will go against popular wil but you will have to accept it!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

does this now mean he will also close his office in Harlem?

Posted by: october155 | June 2, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Did you guys see those HRC supporters acting like retards. I swear I tivo’d it, me and my wife had a few beers and we sat down and just laughed. Way to funny, my wife even made fun of them and she is (was) a HRC supporter (but sees and understands reality – she is voting Obama because he is much better than McSame). Them b-i-t-c-h-e-s and h-o-m-o’s were acting all types of retard. Yelling and screaming and acting like the world has come to an end. It did show that HRC supporters have no shame, no morals, and has actually disrespected and hurt HRC but showing the rest of the nation (DNC included) that her supporters are emotionally unstable, arrogant, can’t follow rules (or at least dont believe in rules set in place by mostly HRC supporters by the way), and just plain stupid. And if the GE is lost because of the retards, then guess what, no more Clintons, and by all means HRC is done!

Posted by: Citizen in FL | June 2, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Considering the kind of “help” Bill gave his wife on the campaign trail, he should make a gracious statement supporting Obama after tomorrow and then go work on his library. I want to like him again. Maybe if he’s quiet for a while, I’ll remember why I liked him in the first place. Good president, great ex-president, shockingly bad campaigner for Hillary.

Posted by: louielouie | June 2, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Two contestants have ended up very close at the end of this process. Both contestants can win in the fall. That is why it must hurt very much to be the one who lost by a nose. All of us can second guess the process. Certainly those who favored the loser are going to be bitter for a while. But in the end the most important thing is that they shake hands and the Dems win in November! We have so much work to do on the economy, healthcare, and ending this horrendous and unnecessary war that has caused suffering to millions of people. Hopefully, the fight within the Democratic party is drawing to a close and we can be the stronger for it, to take on McCain.

Posted by: Madeleine | June 2, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

sarah
you are totally alone and should be duly desperate!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

The democratic party in the end has turned out to be the most undemocratic.Hillary has clearly won the popular vote and the party’s strange delegate rules where every voter is not the same is unbelievable.Hillary also wins the electoral college handidly.What a shame democrats.Let all real democrats unite,it is Hillary as an independent or McCain.

Posted by: vik | June 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Bravo Bill. It is refreshing to hear once more that up is up and down is down.

Posted by: unclesmedley | June 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

I believe that all the posters here who claim to be Hillary supporters are just worthless republican trolls, they sure sound like it. If not then they are ignorant racist fools who are acting like lil widdy biddy children who were denied something they thought was theirs. Its time for adults to run this country. She didnt win, period! He ran a better campaign, period! And what your Hillary supporters dont realize is that many people dont like her or the way she has carried herself lately. And if your a brainless twit that parrots the ol muslim thing, their god or your god doesnt matter, keep your gods out of government. And for you women who will vote for McCain, you will get what you deserve and what you are asking for, so why dont you just shut up now and cook something, thats all the repubs think your good for.
Grow up, its time for a positive change. Help or get out of the way.

Posted by: Paul | June 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

To: howarddean@dnc.org
Subject: Party Unity
Mr. Dean,
What I have witnessed during this campaign, and
particularly with the ruling of the RBC meeting
yesterday, is not going to lead to party unity.
The RBC ruling yesterday was for many the death knell
of the Democratic party we have loved our entire
lives.
While bleating about rules being rules, the RBC
proceeded to violate the Charter and Bylaws of the
party when it took 4 Michigan delegates from Senator
Clinton, and 55 Michigan delegates from Uncommitted
(protected by the party charter and rules as being the
same as a named candidate) and bestowed these 59
stolen delegates upon Senator Obama.
That was an outrage.
Given the delegate lead Senator Obama holds, it would
have cost nothing to do the correct thing, following
those oh so sacred rules, and give Senator Clinton the
73 delegates she earned because those Michigan voters
voted *for her*, and leave the 55 Uncommitted
delegates for candidate “Uncommitted” while knowing
very well that they would then be free to vote their
preference at the Convention.
There is therefore no other way to accurately view
that decision of the RBC as anything other than
deliberate theft of votes and delegates to favor
Senator Obama, and weaken Senator Clinton.
The beginning of party unity? Oh no, Mr. Dean.
It was the exact opposite.
It was the death knell for party unity.
Sincerely,
(name withheld)
Glendale, CA

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Fight on Hillary! Waste your money. You are used to power and it must really feel different to lose. “People that haven’t grown accustomed to losing don’t know when to quit”. Let me give some advice to Hillary and President Clinton. When the fight is over and you have lost, to keep fighting is stupid. The referee called the fight weeks ago. You went down fighting, but you went down.

Posted by: whatyousay1930 | June 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

madeline
Clinton doesnt owe obama anythign to heal the rift with the democrats at best he should offer VP and still Idotn think the country should vote for that ticket because the best candidate will be at the lower end!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

You Will Not Be Missed.

Posted by: Sblaze | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Stop whining — that’s a euphanism for “go ahead and leave the party” we don’t need you. It’s amazing how much that keeps cropping up in Obama supporter comments when Hillary was supposed to be the candidate with the sense of inevitability.
Hillary never ran on a campaign of “unity” or claimed that she could bring people together or that she would work across the aisles (although she is well known for this in Congress.) She said simply — I can get the job done. All the personal attacks on her and her character never undermined that claim. She proved that she was a fighter and could withstand intense criticism to advocate for herself. We have no reason to believe she would do less for democratic causes such as national healthcare.
On the other hand, Obama proclaimed himself a “uniter” not a “divider.” Now he better live up to those claims. Because this election is his to lose, and so far he is losing it. He may have the delegates — but he is limping across the finish line — with signficant losses amongst white and hispanic voters. In the general election, it won’t matter how many superdelegates support him, it will matter how many voters support him.
The undeniable fact is that every single vote cast for Hillary since Obama was declared the winner by the media was a vote against Obama. At this point, people should be asking themselves does Hillary really have that many supporters (if she is as horrible as some people say how could that possibly be true???) or are there 17+ million people saying “anyone but Obama?” If the Democrats are going to win in November, that number better represent a heck of a lot of Hillary supporters that can be brought back into the fold.

Posted by: jlynne | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

I am an Obama supporter, but I think the Clinton’s deserve a lot of respect. They continue to represent the Democratic party well, and will continue to do so. The Clinton’s have waged a tough, hard-fought campaign; and Obama is all the better for it. He is ready for the GE because he faced such a good fight and a good candidate in Hillary Clinton. He won this campaign fair and sqaure and now takes on the very damaged Republican party, including McCain

Posted by: Indycvs | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

frieda, considering Bush is famous for gaffes and has been running the country for seven years
“So long as I’m the president, my measure of success is victory — and success.” –George W. Bush, on Iraq, Washington, D.C., April 17, 2008
“Thank you, your Holiness. Awesome speech.” –George W. Bush, to Pope Benedict, Washington, D.C., April 15, 2008
“Afghanistan is the most daring and ambition mission in the history of NATO.” –George W. Bush, Bucharest, Romania, April 2, 2008
And that’s just a sample of what he said in APRIL.
It seems to me that gaffes we can live with – especially when it comes from a source whose primary aim isn’t (necessarily) writing his own legacy and enriching the oil companies.

Posted by: Fatesrider | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

LISTEN HILL BRAINWASED WOMAN OBAMA DID NOT STEAL ANYTHING HE EARNED IT HILLARY GOT WHAT SHE WANTED AND THEN SOME ON SATURDAYS DECISION NOT THAT SHE DESERVED IT WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GONNA WAKE UP TO THIS WOMAN SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AMERICA THE PARTY NOTHING THE ONLY THING SHES EVER CARE ABOUT IS BECOMING THE FIRST WOMAN POTUS NOW THINK ABOUT THIS IF SHE CARED SHE HAS THE POWER NOW TO UNITE THE PARTY AND SHES NOT SO ALL OF YOU NOT VOTTING FOR OBAMA DONT VOTE MCCAIN AND MAKE THE REST OF US SUFFER JUST STAY HOME ON VOTING DAY RATHER THAN KILL MORE PEOPLE IN IRAQ AND REALLY SINK THIS COUNTRY INTO HELL DO US ALL A FAVOR STAY HOME IN NOV

Posted by: angie | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

This is just a way for Bill to announce to the Democratic Party that he will not campaign for Obama.

Posted by: e perry | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Guess who worked hard for the McGovern campaign in 1972? That would be Hillary and Bill Clinton. Why didn’t they go out screaming for Huber Humphrey, the real winner!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries%2C_1972#Total_primaries_popular_vote

Posted by: Richard McCabe | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Hillary a fighter? OK, awesome. Please go back to the Senate and introduce some meaningful legislation… since you care so much about the working class.
The end of an ERA. Thank you Clintons. The 90′s were the best.

Posted by: billy smith | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Geraldine Ferraro is an honored member of the Democratic party.
I LOVED it when she spoke truth to power; especially when Obama had already admitted as much.
“In winning the Democratic Senate primary in Illinois, Obama drew as many as two white votes for every black one, showing nearly unprecedented crossover appeal for a black candidate in a statewide race.
Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.
If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?”

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

What Clinton’s argument about being the stronger general election candidate ignores is what her nomination would do to the Democratic Party. It would tear it apart.

Posted by: JimmyT | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

I wish he would sign an oath never to campaign again, but I expect we will hear from him again in 2012, or perhaps when his daughter runs for office.
Of course his current admission is only a play for sympathy. Poor Bill.

Posted by: James | June 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

dem38 I wouln’t be too sure about Obama not winning. Not all Hillary supporters feel the same way you do except the ones on this blog. So I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

Posted by: erin | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Wanna bet where we are four years from now? Same ole; same ole. Just more broke!

Posted by: John | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Paul
I am a yellow dog democrat… meaning I would vote for a yellow dog before a republican but this year I may be forced to vote differently… that repub argument for you obamatrolls won work… you destroyed us!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Sara – Why would ANYBODY want Billy out there campaigning for them after his performance for Hillary so far?
As much as all the other negatives Hillary brings to the table, Billy is a huge reason why Hillary will not be on the ticket. If you want Obama to be President, you want to put a whole lotta real estate between him and Billy.

Posted by: Texas Voter | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

To all of you Hillary supporters whose chief argument is that Obama can’t win the GE:
What you aren’t factoring in is the anger of all the rabid Obama supporters if this primary was taken from him.
Witness the disgust from Clinton supporters who feel this election was taken from them, when truthfully it wasn’t. Obama won on delegates, no matter how you slice it, and won popular vote by most tallies (except not counting caucus states and not giving Obama a single vote in Michigan). The only argument they can make that this was somehow “stolen” is media bias. But even if you accept that charge, that doesn’t mean Obama or the DNC stole it from them. And even if she got everything she wanted in MI and FLA, he would still be ahead. There just is no logic by which this was stolen.
So imagine how angry Obama supporters would be if this was taken away by superdelegates after he legitimately won the primaries….All these polls you read are based on Obama supporters telling the pollsters we’d vote for Hillary, because we assume that if she won, it would be by legitimate means. And because our candidate has been ahead this whole time, our bitterness didn’t blind us to the fact that Obama and Hillary are quite similar in terms of positions. So we tell the pollsters we’d vote for Hillary over McCain.
But honestly, watch those figures change if through some incredible freak of nature Hillary and the crazed, militant 10% of her supporters who keep turning up in these blog comments were successful in changing the superdelegates mind through whining, bullying and threats.
Honestly, if that happened, would you expect the votes of Obama supporters?

Posted by: anandamide | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

rd – why would any sane democrat want to unite with such a hateful bunch? Obama and his supporters have viciously attacked Hillary with unprecedented mud sling and character assignation. It was all personal and had nothing to do with issues that democrats have long held proud.
Do you think the hate will be forgotten?

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

black and very proud states:
“AS A BLACK MAN, I’M SURE THAT BLACK PEOPLE WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY WHITE CANDIDATE EVER AGAIN IF OBAMA LOOSES THE GE.”
Response: Who cares!

Posted by: Carpe' Diem | June 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Get real. Dean no more had anything to do with the primary schedule than Mickey Mouse. In the end, rules are rules for a reason. Even though this fact has not dawned on all things Clinton, guess who is going to foot all the bills and debt Clinton now has because she obviously can’t read the writing on the wall no matter how bold-faced, florescent, flashing or how loud doom music plays?
If any democrat votes for a republican instead for Obama (the only candidate who has prevailed in delegate count and has played by the rules…how refreshing imagine that)obviously has no party loyalty whatsoever.
Those two Clintons disgust me so much. Enough of them. Let’s get down to business and get this country back on track. Remember health care, remember immigration, remember foreign affairs….

Posted by: Margie | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Two words: Thank goodness! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Bill–especially after you shamed those of us who once fell for your BS & voted for you. Enjoy what’s left of your tattered legacy & if this is some veiled threat not to campaign for Sen. Obama–I say he’s better of without being in debt to the likes of you & your shameless wife. Let’s turn the page.

Posted by: KC | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Most of the responses on here act as though the 3 remaining mainstream canidates are on American Idol instead of running for President! And instead of talking on the virtues of their respective canidate are compelled to attack the others? All are seemingly proud Americans who wish to serve their country.

Posted by: Gary Kulaszewski | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

I agree RossiMa! YES!!And now that the RBC and DNC have VIOLATED the PARTY CHARTER and STOLEN 4 dels fo Hillary
REALLOCATING THE VOTES OF THE PEOPLE, in DIRECT CONTRAVENTION TO THEIR EXPRESSED INTENT
Thereby violating not only the CHARTER
and RULE 13A of the ROOLZ
but the CONSTITUTION
Hillary MUST go to Denver or all votes will be meaningless forever, the parties will simply give them and sort them and no one will go to primaries any more…

Posted by: Michelien | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Must not have gone the way he wanted.

Posted by: LongT | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

erin
oh no it will be nationwide and I personally will enjoy your humilition because you dared to support Obama!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Didn’t Hiliary run the whitehouse???? so why put her back? Seriously now people, So vote for someone you know that hasn’t been in the whitehouse before

Posted by: Auddie | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

This was posted by Lou: “And I don’t give a DIDDLY what you obama followers call this. You cannot dictate to me how to vote just because you follow the cult leader. So just get the heck out of my way. I’ll vote for JOHN McCAIN – never obama.”
Personally, I don’t believe you Lou. A vote against a candidate is different than a vote for one. I believe you’re all mouth and no action. I bet you’ll vote for Obama irregardless, because once a democrat, always a democrat. You people think you can influence the outcome even at this late date. Guess what, we’re not listening, because you’re all bluster.

Posted by: Jaybird | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

You guys are stupid you act like they have no clue as to what they are doing. They more than do. Hillary could not have had it both ways keep her husband and the nomination. Has no none noticed her nose dive did not occur until after Bill made stupid racial comments in S Carolina? DNC party members were willing to give her a pass on BC until he did something or said something stupid. Can’t you imagine Bill having free reign over interns in the White House and none of the responsibility (whether you admit it or not we know he is a man-whore)First Man or not.
As far as Obama being too young. Really? How about McCain being too old? Does he even know he is running somebody wake him up and ask him. The Constitution says Obama is old enough. Enough said.
Obamas baggage. Are you kidding me? All of you Clinton supporters need to do a wiki check on the Whitewater fiasco and then start working your way up to Bills sexual exploitations that continue up until now and all you can talk about is his church. Please. Hillary wishes she had his baggage, heck even she said as much.
The DNC did not cheat it put on a band-aid Saturday simply because what they should have done in the beginning is have the candidates names pulled from the ballots in those state primaries when they occurred since according to the DNC, Hillary and Obama they were not supposed to count anyway. That way you split it 50-50 full strength, the delegates would have been seated at full strength and you still punish the states by making the primaries a non issue for voting early. Surprisingly no has said anything about the other candidates on the ticket but I guess we will live with that their votes definitely won’t get counted.
Finally, I will leave you with this; Bill Parcells a great football coach said something to the effect, “At the end of the season when you reflect back and look at your record you are what you are. No more No less”.
We all need to think about that. Lets Heal, Lets win. Lets kick McCains butt. “Dems in 08”

Posted by: porterwayne757 | June 2, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

You think Obama has problems, take a look at the Vanity Fair article about Bill’s current women. Couldn’t even keep it in his pants when his wife was running for Prez.

Posted by: annette | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

We’ve seen the media find every conceivable way to rally around BO and explain away his scandals, bringing out poll after poll that “it didn’t hurt BO.”
A friend of mine said, an indictment would do it (or threat of one) since you cannot elect someone who has been indicted, but that will be something that the Feds would have to do.

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

yea mccain never makes any mistakes when speaking
F U PEOPLE

Posted by: bhrandon | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

michelien
everyone I talked to that are real people not the obamabots on here say that she will go to the convention and have real power!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

yea mccain never makes any mistakes when speaking
F U PEOPLE

Posted by: bhrandon | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

What a pitiful bunch of jokers you ignorant, anti-Obama folks are! You are the types that make me and the Michele Obama’s out there ashamed of this country. Once you get your quotes and facts right…you might actually have an audience.
Al from San Francisco…loved your statement about the intelligent people…problem is intelligent people in this country appear to be in the minority. Why, even a dishonest, fool of an unintelligent person can get to be president and ruin a country’s image, economy and credibility.
Newera…rock on!! Know that I was a Hilary fan, until…now it’s Obama all the way!!

Posted by: BA in NYC | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

yea mccain never makes any mistakes when speaking
F U PEOPLE

Posted by: bhrandon | June 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

GOOD BY BILL ! GET YOURSELF A FEW CASES OF CUBANO AND KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. YOU TRY VERY HARD TO MAKE IT UP TO HILLARY,
AT THE END OF THE RACE YOU ARE JUST LIKE ONE OF US – YOU WIN SOME, YOU LOOSE SOME – WE ARE PROUD OF YOU – COME AND HELP THE DEMOCRATS TAKE ON THE GOP. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

GOOD BY BILL ! GET YOURSELF A FEW CASES OF CUBANO AND KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. YOU TRY VERY HARD TO MAKE IT UP TO HILLARY,
AT THE END OF THE RACE YOU ARE JUST LIKE ONE OF US – YOU WIN SOME, YOU LOOSE SOME – WE ARE PROUD OF YOU – COME AND HELP THE DEMOCRATS TAKE ON THE GOP. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

RD:
It’s not about unity with Obama, it’s about how you want this nation to be governed for the next 4 years.
There are as many as 4 Supreme Court justices close to stepping down. Do you want McCain to appoint at least 2 new members? Or a Dem. appointing 4 who could serve until 2030-2050? Maybe all 4–or even more–if a republican ends up in the WH for the next 8 years.
Do you want kids to go without health care?
Do you want to keep spending $100 billion/year on a war in Iraq?
Do you want a new war in Iran?
Exactly what did Obama do that was so unfair to Hillary?
She said McCain was more qualified to be Pres. than he was. What is worse than that? How’s that for Party loyalty?
Sexism in the media isn’t Obama’s fault. Like racism didn’t hurt Obama? We have data on that-—where’s the data that shows sexism hurt Hillary at the voting booth?
Hillary finished a very, very close 2nd to getting the nomination of a major party. How many more delegates would she need to make you & others like you happy? Would the 5% switch in delegate totals be enough to make you happy? To demonstrate that sexism wasn’t a big issue? If sexism was very significant in terms of voting, how did she come so close to getting the nomination? So close despite being the first major female Pres candidate?
She lost. That’s it. Her campaign was poorly run. She joins hundreds of other candidates for nominations and Pres. to lose.
Don’t bite off your nose to spite your face.

Posted by: jackstpaul | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

I would love to see mccain put a woman on the ticket. that would seal the deal.

Posted by: Toto | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Rookie or not Obama has to be given credit for running a state of the art campaign, not funded by special interests, against the most powerful Dems in Washington. With that said the Rookie Obama will WIN against McCain as well and run a better white house than the experienced, spoon in the mouth Bushes who managed to send America into the toilet fighting a hopeless war, facing a failing economy, and counting more enemies than we have friends. And Obama ran his campaign without ever having to stoop so low as uttering the word assassination. So now how do you like that rookie???? Point in case, we are fired up and ready to go!!! Obama’08.

Posted by: Next | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

I’ve always known Bill wasnt going to campaign for Mr.Obama nor the Democratic Party. His legacy as being one of the most remembered democrats in recent years, is about to be upstaged by Mr. Obama. Mr. Bill dosent like that.

Posted by: TruthSeeker | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Don’t worry Bill, the time off will give you and “Little Bill” some much needed quality time with the ladies.

Posted by: Steve | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Carpe Diem: You are clearly not an intelligent person.

Posted by: Gary | June 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

From the beginning, there has only been one next president of the United States and that is the individual who has continued to display his innate grace, intelligence, goodness, class, and desire to serve the American people: Senator Barack O’bama.

Posted by: Cheryl Fontaine | June 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

You idiotic Clinton-bashers will eat your words in November, when you realize you’re looking at President-elect McCain.

Posted by: Cardsgal | June 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Notice: Bill always leaves wiggle room. He will campaign again, count on it!

Posted by: Jaybird | June 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Those Clintonians who are disgruntled enough not to vote for Obama can keep their votes or vote for McCain. It won’t matter. America will leave them behind and move on to a brighter era. They do not understand that Obama won the primaries by thinking “outside the box”. Obama will win the presidency by using new equations-by a)using all of the small states and parts of the big states. b)by getting money from the streets and not from conventional donors that Hillary and McCain depend on. c)by having sheer cool class that appeals to millions of youth who will be a strong determinant in the preidential race. Hillary nor McCain do not have that appeal. d)by being a great orator. That is 75% of a president’s job-the ability to call the people to the flag. No one beats Obama in this department in generations.e)Lastly, his message is the best of them all. With Obama you feel CHANGE. With Hillary you feel DESPERATION. With McCain you fell WAR.
People, the choice is yours. My choice is simple. OBAMA.

Posted by: Ashley Kerry | June 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Go ahead and think what you want Paul, but you are very wrong. I have never voted anything but a straight democratic ticket. I will not vote for Obama and as a protest I am reregistering. It is a sad time for me, but it gives me peace.

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

What are YOU doing to take YOUR party back?
there was much discussion around this last night – I’m an Indy but if you Dems can fight to take your party back I’d consider coming back in as I am certain so would others.
This isn’t just about Barack and Hillary this is much bigger than that- What does the Dem Party mean to you- dig deep- not where it has been taken- but what does it mean to YOU? Why is McCain appealing to me now? Who is working for my vote. It seems nobody wants it and I like McCain smile. Enough guys !!!

Posted by: Disgusted Melanie | June 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Josephm20 – I don’t think there was any good solution that wouldn’t have made someone mad, but since you admit it wouldn’t have made any difference to the outcome, I guess I don’t see it as quite as dramatic as you do. Death knell? The Democrats are set to sweep in November, so I wouldn;t call it a death knell quite yet..

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Miariam you need to go somewhere. Apparently HRC cant pull the hispanic vote either. Why? Because both her and Obama was able to pull only 20% of people to vote….20%???? HRC mightve won against Obama for the “hispanic” vote, but she certainly didnt win jack when she can only pull 20%. PR shouldn’t even get a vote. What good does it count? They dont pay taxes, they cant vote in the general election, and a good portion of them dont wanna become a state because they dont wanna pay taxes. So I ask you Miariam, what good is PR again?

Posted by: Citizen in FL | June 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

RD, you idiot, Michelle Obama wasn’t even born when the Black Panters were around.

Posted by: Namvet | June 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

I just saw the movie ‘recount’. painful. but the most interesting part of the whole thing was the way in which the republicans talked about the ROOLZ and the democrats argued LET THE VOTES COUNT.

Posted by: Merielin | June 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Notice the “Obama supporters” comments, just about all of them are nasty and ridiculous. Looks like Obama pulls in trash for support. It is quite sad.

Posted by: Angie | June 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

As these lyrics from Gilbert and Sullivan’s the Mikado show, there really is nothing new under the sun:
We’ll hear no more, 
Ill-omened owl. 

To joy we soar,

Despite your scowl! 

Away you go,

Collect your hordes; 

Proclaim your woe 
In dismal chords;
We do not heed their dismal sound, 


Posted by: Madame Defarge | June 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Poor Bill, guess you have to back to lobbying and making 1hr, 100 thousand dollar speeches to foreign countries. Thanks for serving our country former President Clinton, now you and your wife deserve that long vacation. Don’t forget to unite the Democrats.

Posted by: Mickey | June 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

I just saw the movie ‘recount’. painful. but the most interesting part of the whole thing was the way in which the republicans talked about the ROOLZ and the democrats argued LET THE VOTES COUNT.

Posted by: Merielin | June 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

josephm
ah has there ever been a felon innuagurated I think not!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

I, a life-long Democrat, am so disappointed in my fellows. I am a 65 year old white woman and do want Hillary for nominee. I have met both Clintons and have admired them both but am ashamed of the way they have tried to divide the Party and have no regard for them at this time. All you bitter old people. I thought the Party was more inclusive. But I guess the Party is going the way of Republicans. Oh, by the way, Obama will win. Thank God there is a new generation that is not as old and worn out as my generation seems to be.

Posted by: diana | June 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

I tip my hat to both candidates who do seem to come to the campaign from different backgrounds.
It does irritate me a bit though that we have seemed to misplace our heritage and understanding of how the country is run by this infighting at the very end. No matter what is said on TV by either candidate or talking-head, nor on-line by either the ranters or the bloggers, let it be known that the people do not “elect” a candidate – they elect a president from a set of candidates. The two major parties have established basic rules where they select the candidate to run for the potential to be elected by the people in November. These rules allow for primaries – but the fact of the matter is for both parties, it is still a party decision. One may think of the primaries as a giant “poll” to whereby they attempt to determine what the country wants or needs. No party has been faced with the challenge of two qualified, highly valued candidates going down the stretch. I think this has opened a dialogue for this country. As for the bashing of one party by the other – the two major parties are much closer than most people realize, and our adversaries (politically speaking) end up being our friends (recall that Jefferson and Adams became very good friends late in life although in the early days of the country they dispised each other.
One last thought, as for Obama and the church bashing – I do not recall him asking his church to be brought into the spotlight. The national media has done that without invitation – and if you truly ask the media to consider why they are doing so (examples abound for all candidates), you will see that journalistic integrity is not what it once was – and that drama sells stories to us, the consumer. The media at this point in time is far worse than it was in the days of Pullitizer and Hurst and the Yellow Press.

Posted by: Pete | June 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

I love it!!! Isn’t it great to see a Clinton admitting defeat?? For some reason, they just assume that it is their right to be in the White House. I have never seen a bunch of sore losers as the Clintons. And I think it is funny how so many Clinton supporters are saying they will not vote for Obama. So what!!! He is still going to win the general election. I personally have already gotten at least 10 people to vote for Obama who weren’t planning on it initially, and plan on getting a lot more. So, whine and complain all you want, but America has spoken, and YES WE CAN!!!

Posted by: bigrjh | June 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Yeah I love it, not only did the CLinton’s lose but they will be blamed for the Dems losing in November and be blamed for the overturn of Roe v. Wade. HAHAHA We orchestrated the whole thing, we kept her in the race, she won Ind and Tex and a few other states because of us, dragging it out, splitting the party and making her loss even more bitter. You Dems are such losers.
If she goes Ind, she will be even more embarrassed because she will come in third and be an outcast. The CLinton’s are finally dead. Ding dong the witch is dead oops mispelling….. I can’t believe how stupid a lot of Democrats are, you will never win the White House. We will win in 2012 also (please I hope she runs again) because half the party won’t vote for her, she will never win the White House now, she made herself look insane. The great right wing conspiracy has beaten the Clintons.
I would love to see the baby killing law overturned and even the feminists blame Hillary. There name is mud, hated by Republicans and Independants and now over half the Democrats. It is like Christmas morn.

Posted by: George | June 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

dem38, I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree because I do think he can win. And no I won’t be humilated at all if he doesn’t. I voted for Obama but would support Hillary if she is the nominee. But I honestly don’t want her to be. I am sick of the Bush and Clintons running this country. But I am a dem and would never vote republican since I don’t agree with their policies.

Posted by: erin | June 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

diana
you can profess to have met the clintons and worked for them.. I in fact have and Sen Clinton would not be still in the race if Obama could winin Nov… case closed!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

McCain needs to put a young person Obama’s age on his ticket, that would be a better road for him because of his own age.

Posted by: Next | June 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

My teen-age son saw the Father Freakshow sermon video minutes ago on You-Tube for the first time.
It really bothered him. Besides the Priest just being plan creepy, my son put in very good words…he said, it was watching a women getting beat-up by a man, and the crowd cheers him on. This is coming from a 17 year old boy.
Yet, Obama doesn’t acknowledge it. He and the DNC is clueless of the impact that the Father Freakshow tape is having on people. How can they think we’ll ever vote for him, after seeing that on top of everything else?

Posted by: Pedro | June 2, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Lord, I hope it’s the last time, because it’s time to heal this party and this campaign has been quite divisive.

Posted by: Wanakee Hill | June 2, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Note to the stalwart Clinton supporters…GO ahead, reregister, vote McCain or whatever…Go forth NOSE=LESS but would advise you to review that in most substance, there is LITTLE difference in the Obama / Clinton “positions” on matters that SUPPOSEDLY are held dear by the Dems. You want to cite HIS inexperience, review Hillary’s actual experience and the actual FRUITS SHE HAS BORN of her efforts to date. Note too the shabby , incompetent campaign in comparison to the well functioning and WINNING camapaign of Obama’s to date and note just who DID NOT CLOSE THE SALE….ie, THE CLINTONS DID NOT CLOSE THE SALE !!!
Make your choice, whine on and on or whatever or perhaps “capre diem” and seize the opportunity we ALL have to move forward and remove the shackles of the OLD STYLE POLITICS and yeah, that does mean the Clintons and their campers are regulated to full demotion and DO NOT RULE !!! Their innate arrogancy brought them down yet they whine it was OTHERS faultings, not their own…TIME FOR THE CLINTONS TO GO FOLKS…time for a new guard to emerge from this purge !!!

Posted by: Bozzy84 | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Hillary Lost- not because she wasn’t a good candidate but because she slapped together a campaign at the last minute.
Had she not felt entitled to this Nomination things may have been different.
Deal With It.

Posted by: anita | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

S, are you kidding re:
“Obama and his supporters have viciously attacked Hillary with unprecedented mud sling and character assignation (sic).”
Like what? Obam was criticized for NOT being tough *enough*. How does that reconcile wiht running a too tough, too negative campign?
She staretd running a sleazy campaign once she was behind. She stopped talking about the issues. He was avoiding the personal stuff until her camp’s slime started taking up too much attention for him to ignore.
She debased this campign, and the whoile process by her abandonment of principles in favor of the ends-justifies-the-means ethics.

Posted by: jackstpaul | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Today you sing yes we can borrowed from Chavez????? Tomorrow you’ll sing yes we’re canned!!! Obama you’re on your own with your Move on amigos.Here comes Papa with his brand new bag.
Hillary supporter for Mc Cain/Hillary 08
talk about a landslide! Keep practicing your backstroke Obama.

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I still can’t understand why so many people are so upset about the primaries. I would vote for Obama or Clinton, they’re both good.

Posted by: Comeonpeople | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Show me the “Whitey” tape.
If Obama was so WONDERFUL than he should have agreed to seat FL & MI the proper way. FL should get full vote.
DNC put Obama on the MI ticket – he CHOSE to remove himself.
Regardless – if he had pushed for unity and the proper seating of the delegates in FL & MI – Hillary would have gained many more delegates – but still not have been close enough to overtake him. It really would have been symbolic for him to show he was really for party unity. After the Rev Wright nonsense I said if Obama is the one for the dems I will stay home – after now Wright, Rezko & the recent catholic priests rants I will not stay home – I will vote for McCain..so now all the Obama drones that are following Obama as a second coming of Christ can jump right on my post. I am a democrat through and through – but with McCain we know what we are getting – with Obama the surprises keep coming and none of them have been good.
Just waiting for the Whitey tape to post.

Posted by: Rose | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Bill will not compaign anymore. It’s the wisest decision he’d ever made. Every one he campaigned for loses their election.
God bless Obama.

Posted by: Pete | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Erin
well if Hillary had competed in the caucuses or the Dems had a winner take all format Sen Clinton wouldve locked this up in feb… but Obama dared to jump the gun and run for president earlier than protocol allows in the democratic party… backed by cracked pot voodoo artists from LA like Donna Brazile

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

But Brazile says the superdelegate vote “should reflect the will of the people.”
We all need to e-mail the Brazil nut and throw her lying, hypocritical words back in her face, along with her promise to EXIT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY if SDs decided the nomination.
Lie much, Donna? Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out!

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Did you guys see those HRC supporters acting like retards. I swear I tivo’d it, me and my wife had a few beers and we sat down and just laughed
——————–
No doubt! Funny stuff!
It’s amazing to watch grown adults acting like 3 year olds. What exactly did they think was going to happen? Had they not been paying any attention to waht the delegations had proposed?
They either though the DNC would just nominate Hillary that day or they just wanted to kick and scream for the sake of kicking and screaming.
Either way. They were pathetic.
(And weren’t there supposed to be dozens of bus loads coming from everywhere to support Hillary? I saw about 60 women total.)

Posted by: The answer is.... | June 2, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

david from texas~
When you do a cut and paste job from other sources and use it as your own words, you’d do better to have your facts straight. It’s called due diligence. Andrew Jackson was not only a slave owner, but a slave trader and yes, a racist.
The further we can move from his example, the better!

Posted by: ConfuciUS | June 2, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

It’s okay, Bill. She supported you, and you’ve supported her. The agreement was honored. Now you can get on with your life as you choose to live it and more power to you. Go in peace.

Posted by: Sarah | June 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

What an irony! Apparently tomorrow Obama is going to speak at the same venue where Walter Mondale spoke to his supporters after losing 49 states in the 1984 general election to Reagan. Some times one gets the impression, Obama and his supporters are ONLY interested in winning the nomination and not the general election. There are 3 major hrudles/ realities that make a McCain landslide in November nearly certain: ===(1) Obama had a strategy for the dem primaries- this mainly based on amassing (USELESS) Caucus voctories and amassing delegates. 90% AA voted for him. NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO HELP HIM FOR THE GE === (2) He has thoroughly antagonized very large sections of dem base- women, working calss whites- with his nasty campaign and dirty tricks. Thus HE IS THE WEAKEST OF THE THREE when it comes to electoral college chances. (3) There’s no way he’ll survive the repub attack machine. They have plenty of ammunition. Obama’s dirty tricks in demonizing Bill and Hillary might have worked for the dem primaries, not going to work for the GE.

Posted by: demsforHRC08 | June 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Just emailed this to Howard Dean:
“This is the beginning of the unification of the party,” DNC chairman Howard Dean said. “… [We]e think this is fair. We think this is the beginning of the healing of the party that has to take place.”
HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
You ARE kidding, right? Right? Tell me you’re not really that disconnected from reality.
I’m a third generation “down ticket” democrat. I’ll give you a call Monday to see about how I go about leaving the party. My mother will also be calling. And a few dozen friends. Hope the phone lines aren’t too tied up with others doing the same.

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Its over doesn’t any one get it.

Posted by: mayo | June 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Sorry gang but the party will not be united. Bill will not campaign for BO. No way on earth. They can beg all they want but it won’t happen. BO can lose the GE all on his own!!!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

I think I will miss the Clintons. I really love them both! I would still love to see Hilary at the WHITE HOUSE again! They’re both important to this government. I get offended by the disgusting remarks putting them down. Makes me think they’re republicans.

Posted by: Caroline | June 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

hillary would beat mccain
obama won’t
you can win the battle of the nominee’s but lose the war for the white house
people need to think ahead

Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | June 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Frieda, please. To say that the superdelegates are stealing this is about as ludicrous as the things that have flown out of the people’s mouths in ALL of the campaigns. Obama is ahead in both popular vote and delegate count. This is NOT the superdelegates taking it away. It was a close race, there is no doubt. And inasmuch as inconsistencies between parties and the way in which they campaigned, specifically in speaking of Florida and Michigan and making out that Barack has been unfairly given some advantage out of this, put that in perspective when you consider that both candidates agreed NOT to campaign in Florida after they broke the DNC rules by moving their primary…but Hillary did anyway. ALL of the democratic contenders EXCEPT Hillary removed their name from the ballot in Michigan, leaving only her name, so that’s all the Michigan voters had offered to them…and that doesn’t sound like a communist party ticket?? This is as fair as it could have been – hotly contested, no doubt. But it’s been fair. And coming into the home stretch, it’s likely to be even more close than imagined. But in the end, Obama won.

Posted by: Cliff Warren | June 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

How many Ture Hillary supporters are here hate and bash Obama?? I think these are all republicans who like to intesify the division in the party..much like failed Rush Limbaugh campaign…Republicans just can’t find ways to win on values and merit…it is either putting fear in people’s mind or demeaning oppenents…Wake up…America now understnds all the tricks that has been played for last 8 years…and see what a mess we are now for these mean tricks..

Posted by: SNK | June 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

This nomination was Hillary Clintons to lose…and that is exactly what she did.
Stop blaming Obama, Peolsi, Dean and other folks.
The Clinton campaign was messed up from the start.

Posted by: nicky1228 | June 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

will invite obama to join my congregation. About 40 jews, no building, one rabbi. Reform. No bad language, no hate. Must be willing to learn a small amount of hebrew for occasional use at seders, etc.
No ranting allowed. Must listen to sermons politely.
I dunno if BO and MO will fit in.

Posted by: Michael | June 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

I will invite obama to join my congregation. About 40 jews, no building, one rabbi. Reform. No bad language, no hate. Must be willing to learn a small amount of hebrew for occasional use at seders, etc.
No ranting allowed. Must listen to sermons politely.
I dunno if BO and MO will fit in.

Posted by: Michael | June 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

There it is, from Bill himself. The final word on Hillary’s ultimate decision. She’s done.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | June 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Now tell your wife to stop hurting the Dem Party. We’re moving forward to win in November.

Posted by: Jaradan | June 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

ON TO DENVER AND VICTORY IN NOVEMBER FOR WE THE PEOPLE AND THE 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!!

Posted by: Mereilin | June 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Now tell your wife to stop hurting the Dem Party. We’re moving forward to win in November.

Posted by: Jaradan | June 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

I will probably get slammed for this post, but I honestly think that Hillary and Barack respect each other and like each other a lot. I the the media has done both of them a disservice. It would be nice if everyone will just leave them alone, let them work out a compromise, come together as a team and win the General Election…..I guess this would be good in a perfect world, but from judging from these hateful posts, this world is far from perfect…just my opinion.

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

jackstpaul
Just read the Obama followers postings on this site. How can you say they are not hateful. How can you imagine that the hate is not an orchestrated movement that begins at the top.
Obama’s stays above it all and his army slaughters everything decent. Just look at earlier posts — all almost alike that attacked McCain as being a traitor. Do you really think a dozen people came up with the same words simultaneously. Do you really!

Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Obama’s just an organized crime punk, a flunkey for the Rezko/General Mediterranean/Syrian mafia criminal enterprise.
Rezko’s just had another warrant issued for him for gambling fraud in Nevada. I think this is related to his other fraudulent debt–to General Electric–and is another reason Obama served as a front for the house thing, to shield Tony’s assets.
Obama was never interested in buying a house. It is a pure fraud play in which Obama, as always, played the front and the flunkey so Rezko could hide assets.
Won’t it be hilarious to see the looks on the faces of Obama’s STUPID and CORRUPT and IGNORANT supporters like Bill Ayres, Rezko, et al., when this hyena is indicted along with Blagojevich.
Titles of Pringle’s article:
Final Chapter – Curtain Time For Barack Obama
Link:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080522_final_chapter___curt.htm

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Gosh! What an ugly slice of America this place here reveals. But, it does explain why America has evolved into a place where little or nothing gets done anymore. So, so incredibly sad.

Posted by: VinceinATL | June 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

While I’m a Clinton supporter my hope is that she’ll concede tomorrow night.
If she doesn’t I would assume it’s because there’s some smoking gun her camp seems to think is out there and if that is the case then they need to bring it forward today. I don’t know if it’s the Sinclair thing or the Michelle tape, but it seems everyone on the blogs seems to know about this allegation and supposed tape that exists
so why mainstream media (who is fully aware of both) are just sitting on it until the general election is beyond me.
Personally, I’m ready for the Democrats to wrap it up so I can jump ship to McCain. And for those Obama supporters who have consistently attacked the Clintons and their supporters (and I respect your right to do so) and arrogantly have pointed out that the Democratic party doesn’t need that 49% of the party that supports Clinton because you now have a “new coalition”,
I have no time for your attacks on those who do jump ship when you’ve clearly intended to throw them overboard anyway.

Posted by: alpaig | June 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Hillary is prepared to give a speech in NY tomorrow, perhaps it will be her concession speech as the majority of the 17 uncommitted senators are planning to endorse Sen. Obama, according to CNN. In any event, once HRC is out of the picture and hopefully gives her support to the democratic nominee; as americans we can properly reflect on the historical significance of the moment. Our generation may well be defined by the success of the first ever black president. Does he unity the country, end political partisanship, restore our country around the world as the beacon of hope?, time will tell. Just think, 100 years from now our offspring could be recounting to their children how great, great grandad/grandma voted for President Obama and he changed the course of this country in the ways of past presidents like Lincoln and JFK. These are amazing times people, let’s unite! Obama08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Obama won 1 precint out of 1786 in Puerto rico.
HRC’s popular vote is approx. a quarter mill.

Posted by: SweetiePie | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

There is no signal that the campaign stops here. hillary all the way to the Credentials Committe. The DNC hierarchy knows that obama is unelectable

Posted by: libre | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

It is now time, for he and Hillary to initiate their “grieving” period. And,reflect on their mistakes. They must come to grips with the “Clinton Dynasty,” is no longer. Thereafter, muster renewed strength and began to campaign for Obama and the Democratic Party.

Posted by: hope | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

The Obama’s are looking for a new church so this silly mind of mine said Adidam.
http://tinyurl.com/p426
Silly, silly, silly mind.
Or maybe Krishna Consciousness is his way.
http://tinyurl.com/ya6hnf
Too liberal for him?
Not liberal enough?

Posted by: Michael | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Cheryl Fontaine, you must be totally dillusional or black to believe all that crap you just wrote about Obama.
You Obama supporters make me laugh of how ignorant you truly are.
If Obama wins the presidency you will eat your words and he will be known as the worst president in history. Vote him in and lets get this party started!!!

Posted by: Carmen | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Where in the world is Michelle Obama, and what does she hate about America today?

Posted by: libre | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

They will hope for Obamas defeat just like they did Kerry. Just wait, the “Travelling Hillbilly” show will tour again in 2012.

Posted by: EOBFEOBF | June 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

dem38:
Then how do you explain this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Democratic_presidential_candidates%2C_2008
From the above link:
“Clinton announced on January 20, 2007, that she would run in 2008 (the same day she announced the formation of an exploratory committee).”
“Obama announced his candidacy on February 10, 2007.”
So Hillary announced first by about 2-3 weeks. They competed in all the contests (except Florida and Michigan).
Therefore, what are you talking about?

Posted by: Richard McCabe | June 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

It’s doubtful Hillary would have won the GE. The Republicans have been arming themselves for years against this. With Obama, the GOP needs to be more careful in their negativity less the race card becomes apparent.
They have already tried hard to keep Hillary going via Rush and his “Operation chaos”.
Heck, I tried once to help bring the Republican party to its senses by voting for McCain in the 2000 primary. That didn’t work, Rove and Bush JR discredited McCain in the South Carolina Primary.
http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=522
The Republicans eat their own. Now it seems they are convincing the Democrats to do the same.
And, no I will not be voting McCain again. He is no longer the man of principle he was in 2000. Politics has a way of compromising ones soul.

Posted by: Sanity | June 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

my little eyes weep with joy and pride at the dem party…
ahhhhh like birthing a baby
and finding out it’s rosemary’s baby
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee helpppppppp!!!!!
GoHillaryGo

Posted by: Pedro | June 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I am so tired of sore loser Clinton supporters and pundits who claim that ONLY SHE CAN WIN THE ELECTION for the Democrats and if she is not chosen they will defect to MCCAIN.
to that I say
GOOD RIDDANCE
If you want more of what Bush is doing then vote McCain
If you are not concered that may be a draft and you can lose a loved one VOTE MCCAIN
If you want to disregard your OWN CANDIDATE who states “Obama will win and make a fine president” then VOTE MCCAIN
But what dont want to hear is if Mccain gets in and the tax breaks continue for the rich and more soldiers die in Iraq and Osama keeps putting out his “MIX TAPES”that retarded voters like yourselves are mad.
PLEASE GROW UP SHE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE BUT IF YOU CANT THEN HEAD ON OVER TO MCCAIN CAUSE WE DONT WANT OR NEED YOU!!

Posted by: CHUCK | June 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

I found this link to an audio file of Brazile saying she’ll leave the party. just click on listen and the file will play
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18882087

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

You guys are fools to think that Bill and Hillary Clinton are racists. Who in their right mind would be racists against AAs.
Anyone with any intellectual integrity has reseached all of those quotes and it shows Obama knew he had to smear Bill and Hillary, to win them over. Even Al Sharpton wasn’t sure if Obama was black enough.
When you claim the Clinton’s are racists, you are ignoring the fact that the Clinton Political Machine, the most effective against the Republicans in decades, would have to be idiots to insult them.
They didn’t do it.
The same media that smeared them for a bj, while not vetting and selling you Dubya AND his war, is selling you Obama/
Knock…knock….anyone home!?
Try thinking for yourselves and see if the Clintons had anything to gain by upsetting the AAs….or if it was Obama.
Please…it doesn’t even pass logic 101.
But this the type of stuff Obama and the media are offering up.
Wake up!

Posted by: Karma | June 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

dems38, why didn’t Hillary compete in the caucuses and this isn’t a winner take all like the republicans so that argument is moot. Like I said she ran a bad campaign thinking she had this all wrapped up by super tuesday. She had no plan after that.

Posted by: erin | June 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

I cannot overstate my disgust with the Clintons. I voted for Bill twice. But I want them to retire from the limelight for at least 20 years. Please be a man of your word and never campaign again.

Posted by: R Keith Gargus | June 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Excuse me, i would like to take exception to this. if obama gets 23 years to learn to leave his church, hubris should also get 23 years to learn to improve his language

Posted by: Michael | June 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

the_peoples_prez Once Hillary stops campaigning we will star a campaign for Write Hillary on the Ballot. Democrats won’t vote for divisve, deceiving obama.

Posted by: libre | June 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

frida – i agree – i am outraged that elitsits who are worth over 100 million dollars pretend to be shift workers; the son, grandson of four-star generals, and the husband of mulit-millionaire pretends to be a man of the people; and a reporter on a major network, with a prep school educations and legacy Ivy League education – along with MSM media millionaires determine our national political process.
It’s time for a change. I want my country back. And I’m a white, rural, middle class independent voter.

Posted by: mara | June 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Well this is so good. The Hillary supporters and feminests think that Hillary should be the canidate simply because she is a woman. The scream how they will NOT vote for Obama, some even saying they will simply write her name in. So the Democrats lose an election they should easily win. The Clintons WILL be blamed for this, Hillary will be punished in the Senate. Bill will be a pariah. McCain will replace more SCJs with conservatives, who will outlaw abortion. We will have at least 4 more years of the disastrous Bush economic and foreign policies. Kudos Hillary! Kudos for helping insure your party loses an election they should have won.

Posted by: Sam | June 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Hillary is prepared to give a speech in NY tomorrow, perhaps it will be her concession speech as the majority of the 17 uncommitted senators are planning to endorse Sen. Obama, according to CNN. In any event, once HRC is out of the picture and hopefully gives her support to the democratic nominee; as americans we can properly reflect on the historical significance of the moment. Our generation may well be defined by the success of the first ever black president. Does he unite the country, end political partisanship, restore our country around the world as the beacon of hope?, time will tell. Just think, 100 years from now our offspring could be recounting to their children how great, great grandad/grandma voted for President Obama and he changed the course of this country in the ways of past presidents like Lincoln and JFK. These are amazing times people, let’s unite! Obama08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

AWESOME! Now let get to the business of kicking some Republican But!!! THEY DESERVE IT!!!

Posted by: Beka | June 2, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Good riddance to bad rubbish. We’ve had enough of the Clintons. Go waste your money elsewhere, elitist shills.

Posted by: anik | June 2, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

obama’s not going to win????????
Are you kidding me. Wake up folks. It’s going to be OBAMA in a LANDSLIDE win in November. Whoever doesn’t know that is kidding themselves.
Stop the Drama
Vote Obama

Posted by: d2008 | June 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Obama is faking his resigmnation of his church the same way he staged his break up with Wright Obama and Wright are still pals, Wright is his mentor and they think alike.

Posted by: libre | June 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Have your moment of pride Brother. It will be over soon and you can go back to being like Michelle the cow Obama. Hatin’.

Posted by: t. | June 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Okay, SAD that people think McCain and Bush are alike and they predict another term like Bush’s disasterous last two. Please pay attention when McCain speaks: He is a unifer, not a divider like Bush. He reaches across the isles to Democracts and works with them to achieve change in this county. The media and others are always asailing him for this, villifing him and other Republicans call him a traitor to the GOP for it. He, unlike Bush, stands up for what he believes and often bears the brunt of anger from the Republican party. People, read his positions and think for yourselves. Please stop repeating what you hear without giving it any thought. Form an original thought!
Also, for those of you who think he is too old, you try the campaign trail – see if you “youngsters” can keep up with McCain. He is a healthy man. Sure…two terms – no, but let’s give the man a chance to help this country for four years.

Posted by: Lisa Again | June 2, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Get what you DESERVE:
To all the Clinton supporters who claim to be voting for McCain in the fall, you’ll you get what you deserve. More Iraq, probably war with Iran, more miserable economic policies, and Supreme Court justices that may well overturn Roe v. Wade. I hope that’s what you you’ve been fighting for through this primary. I don’t think that’s what Clinton has been fighting for, but I hope you get what you deserve . . .
So many of the Clinton supporters here (I hope they’re a minority) sound like my 5 year old when he loses a board game. “You cheated,” “the rules are stupid,” “I’m not playing this game with you anymore” — and then flip the board over.
I hope you’ll take the time to explain to your kids why you voted for John McCain when our economy is even worse and we’re mired in an even greater middle east war. Don’t forget to tell them you didn’t actually agree with McCain — you did it to make a point.

Posted by: mch | June 2, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

I really want HRC to take it to Denver. I want her to fight for all of us. I’m tired of this image of women having to be conciliatory and all that crap. I’m woman and I’ll fight for what is right ’til death…unity my a^^.

Posted by: Celene | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

I don’t get what you Hillary Nutts dont get, it’s over! Even if she helps Mccain to win in 2008, and she runs for president in 2012 she will never get the majority of black votes ever! Hillary will not only lose black votes, she will lose White, Hispanics, Men, Women old and young. We will not forget Hillary and Bill and will never forgive you for turning your back on the Democratic Party. If you were smart you would quit will your ahead because your politicle lives will be over if you do not stop this maddness…….. Make the right choice Bill and Hillary or pay the price and join the unemployment line if you are responsable for getting John McCain elected.

Posted by: ORLANDO FROM FREMONT OHIO | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Hillary supporters are bitter, and that’s understandable. I know, as an Obama supporter, that I would be if the shoe were on the other foot. But for the good for our country, all Dems (and independents) need to unite now against McCain. Not only would he continue the disastrous Bush foreign and economic policies, but he will also overturn Roe v. Wade. I think that’s something that Hillary’s supporters will greatly regret if they go that route. Also, if Hillary runs as an independent, which I don’t think she will, it will definitely win the GE for McCain.

Posted by: Pasquali | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

To those calling for Hillary to run as an independent, a little realism might be in order. Such a campaign will utterly split the Democratic vote, ensuring a Republican victory, and — worse, from Hillary’s perspective — alienate a large segment of the Democratic base (to say nothing of the Party itself) and make a future run almost impossible.

Posted by: Random | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Obama has basic arithmetic problems: Cause first you unite than you divide. not the other way around. You will end up in the minus zone. Like minus 17 millions. Sad but trueI’m afraid.

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

My friends from Canada asked why it bothered me that the votes weren’t counted in MI & FL. I said it was a family thing. Who knows, next year it could be WI.

Posted by: Michael | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

I am planning to RUN, not walk to my local voter registration office to change my party affiliation from Democratic to Independent. In all the history of the USA, never has a candidate been better informed and more prepared for the presidency than Hillary Clinton. Looking back on history, Krushchev took advantage of Kennedy’s inexperience to create the Cuban missle crisis. Now, because of the weakness and stupidity of Bush/Cheney, Hugo Chavez was able to rise in power. How long until his buddy Ahmadinajad has nukes and sends a gift to Venezuela? At least the Soviets were mentally stable. This is only the tip of the iceberg.
We NEED Hillary!!!

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Bison wrote concerning user Carpe Diem:
You sir are a McCain Troll, you are paid to spread lies and misinformation.
Um…are you paid? Also, way to go Captain Obvious, he/she writes in the post “McCain 08″. What gave you your first clue, idiot?
I do believe a troll is one who comes to a blog and makes posts that are contrary to the ideology of that blog. Isn’t this ABC’s blog? Oh..right. I forgot — the MSM is owned by the left.
Good luck with Obama in Nov. I’m with Carpe Diem — Obama will lose in a landslide.

Posted by: soccerdad | June 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Show me the “Whitey” tape.
If Obama was so WONDERFUL than he should have agreed to seat FL & MI the proper way. FL should get full vote.
DNC put Obama on the MI ticket – he CHOSE to remove himself.
Regardless – if he had pushed for unity and the proper seating of the delegates in FL & MI – Hillary would have gained many more delegates – but still not have been close enough to overtake him. It really would have been symbolic for him to show he was really for party unity. After the Rev Wright nonsense I said if Obama is the one for the dems I will stay home – after now Wright, Rezko & the recent catholic priests rants I will not stay home – I will vote for McCain..so now all the Obama drones that are following Obama as a second coming of Christ can jump right on my post. I am a democrat through and through – but with McCain we know what we are getting – with Obama the surprises keep coming and none of them have been good.
Just waiting for the Whitey tape to post.
Posted by: Rose | Jun 2, 2008 2:04:29 PM
Rose,
That has to be the most uneducated post I’ve seen in a long time. You say you’d vote for McCain because you know what you’re getting? Are you kidding me? Go and look at McCain’s stances on issues 4 years ago and then go look at his stances now. He has 100% flip flopped over and over again. In addition, many people voted for BUSH for that same reason… “we don’t like him, but at least we know where he stands”… BAM, look at where we are now?
Ask yourself a question… what in the world does the comments by Wright and the latest Catholic priest have to do with Obama and our national policies? The answer is simple… *NOTHING*. If you choose to let those reverends sway your decision, then that is your decision… i can’t stop you from exericising your poor judgement. Me? I’m voting based on ABILITY TO LEAD and things that really DO make a difference to our nation.
let me guess… you’re also pi$$ed about Obama not wearing the flag lapel. LOL
Hey, what’s this about following Obama as the 2nd coming of Christ? JESUS CHRIST (pardon the expression)… just because you vote for someone does not make them Christ-like. Geeeeeeez… Does this mean you believe Hillary is the 2nd coming of Christ? LOL
I swear, the posters here astound me… it’s like being in a 2nd grade classroom.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Well, looks like McCain is gonna win in November. Regan Democrats, women and Latinos will swing Republican now. Now I see why Republicans keep winning. The Democratic party truly is the party of naive losers.

Posted by: Jane | June 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Looks like all that fantasy at Disney is doing a job on you Orlando!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

RossiMa: Donna Brazile was referring to resigning if the Superdelegates overturned the results of the pledged delegates.
Since Obama leads in the pledged delegates and the superdelegates are not going to overturn that result, your attempt to make someone “live up to their words” as you wish to interpet them fails.

Posted by: Richard McCabe | June 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

FOR THOSE WHO SAY THEY WILL VOTE McCain I say GOOD I just hope the trailer that you live in has air conditioning for the long hot summer of what Obama win the whole thing. IF CLINTON WAS THE BETTER CANDIDATE HOW COME SHE IS BEHIND WHEN THE PROCESS STARTED SHE WAS THE ALL BUT CERTAIN WINNER MY QUESTION IS
WHAT HAPPENED THEN? she lost to a better candidate POINT BLANK!!

Posted by: chuck | June 2, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

I don’t get what you Hillary Nutts dont get, it’s over! Even if she helps Mccain to win in 2008, and she runs for president in 2012 she will never get the majority of black votes ever! Hillary will not only lose black votes, she will lose White, Hispanics, Men, Women old, young, rich and poor. We will not forget Hillary and Bill and will never forgive you for turning your back on the Democratic Party. If you were smart you would quit will your ahead because your politicle lives will be over if you do not stop this maddness…….. Make the right choice Bill and Hillary or pay the price and join the unemployment line if you are responsable for getting John McCain elected.

Posted by: ORLANDO FROM FREMONT OHIO | June 2, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

HOW GIVES A DAM ABOUT THE HISPANICS VOTE THEIR ILLEGAL AND CANNOT VOTE ANY DAM WAY!!!!!!! WHAT HAVENT WHITE PEOPLLE AND BLACK PEOPLE DEPORTED THEM YET. ANOTHER REASON OBAMA WON!!!! NOTICE HE HAVE NOTHING BUT WHITE AND BLACK PEOPLE AROUND HIM SMART GUY THATS WHY HE’S GOING TO THE WHITEHOUSE IDOTS!!!

Posted by: democratic | June 2, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

I am HRC supporter. I have nothing against Obama (He is a charming) however, I have listened to his speech and I don’t understand what change he is talking about? I have yet to hear something of substance from him. He is definitely a good speaker. I am concerned about his experience. Honestly till January I didn’t even heard about him and 5 months later he is a nominee. Kudos to his campaign team!
However what I am concern about is states which he won are mostly carried by republican. Dems will never win those states. HRC has actually won the states which are traditionally won by DEMS in election.
I have visited lots of forums and I am appalled to see nasty comments about HRC! For the first time in the history of USA, a women president candidate has achieve something that no American women had ever dream of achieving! This is the best Obama supporter can come up with? What about Mrs. Michelle Obama? I found her remarks ‘about being proud’ offensive!
All these young voters don’t vote. They love all the cheering and all and are full of ideas (That is the essence of democracy). But in reality they never go to election booth when it matters the most.
With the hatred spewed among the DEMS supporter,I am disappointed. I have turned Independent and McCain looks more and more eligible candidate. My spouse feels the same way.

Posted by: RJ | June 2, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

My God .. I’m not a Democrat but if the Clinton’s aren’t one your best ever – please share who is! Let me hear it – name a few of the best Dems ever. This should be comical .. if you’re between 15 and 30 yrs old please name at least name one that’s not already passed away!

Posted by: MJ | June 2, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

It is Hillary Clinton that has some mending to do. If she wants to remain in politics then she needs to cede now and rally her supporters (who fail to see the obvious, that both HRC and Obama have the same policies and are running on the same platform) to vote democrat. Hillary you have your name and reputation to think about. Do you want to be remembered as the Judas or the Democatic party or not? The choice is yours. Now is the time to unite behind the democratic nominee, Barack Obama and change this country for the better.

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Paleeze already with the black vote. BO’s not going to get the middle class white vote & there are lot more of them.

Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

I thought Hillary acted so graciously in PR–very down to earth, relaxed, humble. Obama, like someone said, is always behind a podium talking “at” people. Or he’s in a flyer in a pulpit looking like he thinks he’s the messiah. I do not want this person representing me!
There is no Great Lake in Oregon

Posted by: Pedro | June 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Bill clinton is directly responsible for the last 8 years of pain. He could not control his own self gratification,and had to have whatever pleasures he wanted at the moment he wanted it. I used to support Sen. Clinton, until the picture of her with Scaife. Her own self gratification need for power was to much for this old lady to handle.

Posted by: Marie Pickert | June 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

That’s it grind Clintons supporters nose in it, that will get them to come to Obama, Fat chance!
Unity, reconcilliation, the party, BUNK!

Posted by: EXDEMO | June 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

That is how I feel. Everyone is trying to get on the Obama train so they can get positions in the Administration or get his ear for their pork. No one seems to care about all the crap that is going on.

Posted by: Michael | June 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

I am planning to RUN, not walk to my local voter registration office to change my party affiliation from Democratic to Independent. In all the history of the USA, never has a candidate been better informed and more prepared for the presidency than Hillary Clinton. Looking back on history, Krushchev took advantage of Kennedy’s inexperience to create the Cuban missle crisis. Now, because of the weakness and stupidity of Bush/Cheney, Hugo Chavez was able to rise in power. How long until his buddy Ahmadinajad has nukes and sends a gift to Venezuela? At least the Soviets were mentally stable. This is only the tip of the iceberg.
We NEED Hillary!!!
Posted by: Susan | Jun 2, 2008 2:20:52 PM
Better informed? really? are you aware that Hillary voted FOR the Iraq invasion WITHOUT EVEN READING THE BILL first? How is that “better informed?” Oh yes… then she declared the Iranian National Guard as a terrorist group… wonderful… that opens the door for war with Iran… yes, i bet you ARE in favor of that, right?
In addition, if you REALLY believe Iran has nukes, you’re sorely mistaken. I’m sure they’re aware that if they launch even ONE nuke, the whole country would be obliterated in moments. There just is no rational explanation for thinking the Iranians are going for nuclear weapons.
I do agree with you on one thing… the idiocy of Bush/Cheney is ridiculous and has fanned the fans for Hugo to rise in power in his own country. What do you think voting for McCain would do? He’s a continuation of Bush policies. So if your candidate Hillary is not the nominee (and she won’t be), then are you going to do as the trolls do and suddenly become a non-democrat and vote for McCain? Maybe, since you like the idea of WAR with Iran.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Susan and the rest of you Hillary diehards, you are like a bunch of goats! The way you think, scares me!! You, like Hillary, give women a bad rap!!!!
OBAMA’08

Posted by: Diane in Dallas | June 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Bill Clinton is asking for sympathy votes…Press is really idiots…What Bill is saying is he will not tkae part in Primary Campaigns anymore which is correct as tomorrow is the last primary contests…
He is asking for votes if people feel bad for him being ending on losing side..

Posted by: John | June 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

You want HIllary to do everything. She does not need to tell her supporters anything. Let BO work for the votes. Oh, that’s right, it won’t matter. He is not fit to run this country!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

OBAMA WILL NEVER BE ELECTED PRESIDENT. HE HAS NEITHER THE SKILL OR EXPERIENCE TO RUN THIS COUNTRY. MCCAIN MAY BE OLD–BUT HE IS THE BETTER CHOICE IN TERMS OF ELECTABILITY. OBAMA HAS RUINED THE CHANCES OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO ELECT A PRESIDENT THIS YEAR- I AM A DEMOCRAT AND I WILL BE VOTING REPUBLICAN IF OBAMA IS THE DEMOCRATIC CHOICE. WHAT HAPPENED TO LETTING THE CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST VOTES BE THE CHOICE. WHY SHOULD THE SUPER DELEGATES DECIDE AGAINST THE VOTING AMERICAN PUBLIC. THIS IS REALLY MESSED UP.

Posted by: silverlady | June 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

any man like obama who is smart enough to have nothing but white people and black people around him and beat hillary racist rodham clinton surley has my vote for president oh and deported the illegals!!!!

Posted by: democratic | June 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

I have a question and hopefully I can get a straghtforward answer. If Obama wins the nomination Tuesday, can Hillary still take her campaign to the convention in Denver? And if she can, in what regard? I’m just trying to understand.

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Can’t wait for the new Bill & Monica meeting to come out! Hillary is trying her best to keep this hush hush. This is why she has kept her distance from him in the last few months.

Posted by: 08demo | June 2, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

As I read some of the blogs I am staggered. Why would anyone want to blame either Barak or Hillary for what the Republican party has done. They have driven this country over a cliff over and over and over and over again. Yet, still there are those who would make all this other junk surrounding the campaigns preeminent. Nothing before Barak’s acceptance of the nomination I think matters a bit. What matters is policy. How anyone on planet earth given the horrific Republican immoral acts could ever on this earth vote for John McCain and extension of Bush I will never on God’s earth understand. If a Democrat had committed what George Bush and his minions have they would have been impeached, convicted and ultimately jailed. Do failed policies have to come and bite us in the face before we realize trying something else is necessary for survival? It goes against the law of survival to vote Republican yet again. We are in such dire shape and have conducted the most horrific war on false pretenses and bankrupted ourselves in the process. How much more will it take before it will not matter which Democrat takes office just so long as it is ONE Democrat who does? My goodness it is hard to fathom the American psyche. How much worse could it be?

Posted by: Natalie Rosen | June 2, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

DNC CANNOT DEFY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They already did,like yesterday and all along. We can all wish for a tape or hope that the masses will see the light but the DNC made it a done deal, and they told us to screw ourselves. something very very major has to happen to change the course now. Like Mccain winning in the GE, but it looks like they have figured that into their game plan by trying to securing other states as opposed to the usual swing states. I know we can out smart them if we put our heads together and not discuss it on an open blog.

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Who cares what he meant, he’s slime.
he as well as his wife can move back to ARK.
So they may continue to lie their way out of the mess that awaits them.
Vote for whom ever you chose, A Clinton Will not be President, thank GOD!ll
The halls of the white house will now be safe from Bill seeking new prey!…Scum.

Posted by: Nancy | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

“Whitey”
Starring Michelle Obama
And Louis Farrakhan
***Coming soon to a TV Screen Near You***
Synopsis: Watch leading racist Michelle Obama ranting about ‘whitey’ with the biggest racist in the country the Honorable Louis Farrakhan. Watch two of the nation’s leading racists come together. A very unique opportunity indeed.
Do not miss it.
PS: In the interest of full disclosure it is important that we mention that Michelle Obama is the wife of renowned racist and race baiter Barack Hussein Obama.
***Stay tuned for more information***

Posted by: Abomanation | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

WHO GIVES A DAM ABOUT THE HISPANICS VOTE THEIR ILLEGAL AND CANNOT VOTE ANY DAM WAY!!!!!!! WHAT HAVENT WHITE PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE DEPORTED THEM YET. ANOTHER REASON OBAMA WON!!!! NOTICE HE HAVE NOTHING BUT WHITE AND BLACK PEOPLE AROUND HIM SMART GUY THATS WHY HE’S GOING TO THE WHITEHOUSE IDOTS!!!

Posted by: democratic | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Please…everyone…we’re all on the same side. It looks like Obama will win the nomination and for anyone supporting Hillary who says they won’t vote for Obama…or they won’t vote at all…or they’ll vote for McCain … SHAME ON YOU! A vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of Bush. That is unacceptable. There’s been a lot of nasty politics and sabotage and lies/rumors/innuendos and it’s time to put it all behind us and unite to elect a DEMOCRAT as president in November.

Posted by: JudyB | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

WINNERS NEVER QUIT
QUITTERS NEVER WIN
KEEP WRITING
KEEP CALLING THEM UP
DONATE MONEY
CALLS TO SD AND MONTANA
DONT JUSS GIVE UP
WE ARE RIGHT
DNC IS WRONG
WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE !!
THAT IS IT

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

silverlady – The candidate with the most votes IS the nominee. And no “true Democrat” would ever vote for McCain over Obama.

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

THEN “RJ” YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND CAN VOTE FOR MCCAIN AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE BUSH POLICY
OR YOU
CAN LISTEN TO YOUR CANDIDATE WHO HAS STATED MANY TIMES THAT IF SHE IS NOT THE WINNER THAT EVERY0NE SHOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA I NEVER SAW SO MANY SORE LOSERS EVER THEY BOTH RAN AND SHE LOST SOMETHING HE SAID RESONATED WITH VOTERS BECAUSE SHE WAS AHEAD IN VOTES,DELEGATES AND SUPER DELEGATES so if you and the rest of the people mccain is better the vote for him but please dont complain that we are still IRAQ etc

Posted by: chuck | June 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

One president per family, per generation, is enough. For some reason, the second person in a family to become president, following the previous one rather closely, is always weaker (i.e. the Adams and the Bushes). Bill left office with a good legacy in terms of his policies if not his personal life. Let’s keep it that way. Of course it would be nice to see a women become president, but one with her own independent credentials. Also, I suspect that for too many, Hillary has become the “great white hope” for those voters who desperately wish not to see a black man become president.

Posted by: DLP | June 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Papa bear/mama bear No baby bear

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Puerto Ricans ilegals? They are all over. Ove 1M in NY and they hold US passport by bithright.

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Blackandveryproud: you are either a Republican or Independent…because Democrats don’t say stuff like that. But let’s get this out the way…I and others know what you are trying to do her on this blog. Your stirring up and saying disgusting hateful things towards whites to make the African Americans look bad so that other voters will not vote for Obama.
For Jack: There were approx. 35.8 million voters that voted so far. Hillary only go 17, 787, 063 Obama will have 18,000,000 this coming Tuesday so you were saying that 17+million voters will vote for McCain? Did these 17 million voters tell you this? How do you know that these voters actually vote for Hillary? I don’t understand your logic

Posted by: Wallace | June 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

AT A TIME,WE ALL NEED TO STOP LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE FALSE INDICATORS OF HOW STRONG A CANDIDATE IS.TO BE SURE THE CANDIDATE WE ARE CHOOSING IS STRONG ENOUGH TO WIN IN NOVEMBER,WE NEED TO MATCH HIS OR HER NUMBERS WITH OUR OPPONENT REPUBLICAN NUMBERS,SEE HOW WELL CLINTON OR OBAMA DOING IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE,IN SWINGS STATES,IN EVERYTHING DEMOCRATS NEED TO WIN AGAINST MCCAIN.IT IS ONLY AT THE END OF THAT HOMEWORK THAT WE CHOOSE OUR NOMMINEE.STATISCALLY,HILLARY IS STRONGER THAN OBAMA IN A G.E MATCH UP AGAINST MCCAIN.THAT IS THE FACT.NOW,IN THE NAME OF WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DENY THE NOMINATION TO THE ONE WHO CAN AND WILL LEAD THE PARTY TO VICTORY IN NOVEMBER? THE LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEED TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IN MAKING THEIR DECISION,BECAUSE THIS TIME,WE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLORATE ANY MISTAKES,ANY SELFISHNESS,ANY KIND OF STUPIDITY AGAIN

Posted by: thierry | June 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Orlando,
My thoughts exactly. Hillary supporters need to be careful what they wish for. I keep hearing the same old tired line, it was stolen form Hillary. So you Hillary supporters think that Hillary was entitled to the nomination and she didn’t have to campaign for it. That sense of entitlement is why she lost. If you want to vote Republican, go ahead, but I ask you not to come back to the Democratic Party when it’s over. We have no place for disloyalty.

Posted by: Mike | June 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Well Bill was a bigger person than Hillary, practically admitting it’s over. Maybe the scandalous Clintons will be gone now.

Posted by: EnoughAlready | June 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

That’s right…keep the infighting going.. Never remembering the slogan “United we stand (Democrats) and divided we will fall.” At this point, it will not matter who the candidate of choice will be…the Democrats are fighting each other much to much to beat McCain with either candidate … Please continue to bash the Clintons then please by all means turn and bash Obama. In the end, all the rude, ugly, spiteful and negative comments will only be a blip in the history of this race. McCain will be President. You will not be able to blame any of the Politico’s you choose to trash and blame. As Democrats, prepare to loose in November. For there will be no one to blame but yourself/ourselves!!!! That’s right keep it going and prove me right or unite and prove me wrong. Sincerely, A Democrat who will support my candidate, who ever it will be.. Hillary or Obama!

Posted by: Lora | June 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Lora….excellent post!

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Paleeze already with the black vote. BO’s not going to get the middle class white vote & there are lot more of them.
Posted by: rockthebleachers | Jun 2, 2008 2:25:08 PM
really? i’m a middle class white JEW.. he has my vote.
Funny how everyone tries to squeeze people into one stereotype or one demographic or another… lol. The facts are this… everyone has their own minds… some are followers, some are leaders. The leaders will vote their minds… the followers will vote how others tell them to vote. So those “follower” type of people are the ones you can place in those various demographics… the “leaders” do not belong in any demographics because they don’t vote base solely on that demographic.
Simple as that.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Hillary will win because if the superdelegates have any brains they will see how all the Obama corruption has produced an illegitimate candidate.
BO started stealing elections in Chicago and denying the people the right to vote for good candidates.
One of his opponents and mentor who he stabbed in the back endorsed Hillary.
He decided to steal this one through the weak and meaningless caucuses that produce many delegates. He sent his thugs in to corrupt the already disproportionate caucuses. They pushed, shoved, accosted, threatened, and threw out voters. The stole paperwork and committed fraud of every kind imaginable.
Texas was probably the worst. Over 2000 complaints were filed, even with jammed phone lines.
Hillary won the legitimate primary, then the thugs took over the caucuses and stole her delegates.
Obama blocked the revotes in FL and MI because he lost bigtime and knew he would lose again. He spent over $1.3 Million campaigning in FL, she didn’t. Hillary won with a handicap.
Then the corrupt DNC (Donna Brazile) and crooked Obama cut Hillary’s FL and MI delegates in half. But they didn’t cut South Carolina (BO’s state) in half even though SC broke the same rule.
That wasn’t enough. They gave Obama all the uncommitted votes and delegates in Michigan when he wasn’t even on the ballot. Maybe I should claim some delegates, I wasn’t on either.
He made a strategic decision to get off the MI ballot in order to gain favor with Iowa, which he did. He won Iowa (another corrupt caucus).
Those uncommitted votes are not his, and certainly not all his any way you look at it. I know people in Michigan who voted for Mike Gravel, for instance, who had their votes hijacked by Obama. They would have gone for Hillary, they can’t stand corrupt Obama.
But even that wasn’t enough for the greedy, corrupt, lying, little bastard. He had the corrupt DNC actually give him 4 of HILLARY’S MI delegates.
And, you wonder why Hillary is fighting. I think if it was me I would be fighting with swords.
Obama is an ILLEGITIMATE candidate and if the supers are too dumb to see it, the GOP will point it out very clearly.

Posted by: Dave S | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Hillary will win because if the superdelegates have any brains they will see how all the Obama corruption has produced an illegitimate candidate.
BO started stealing elections in Chicago and denying the people the right to vote for good candidates.
One of his opponents and mentor who he stabbed in the back endorsed Hillary.
He decided to steal this one through the weak and meaningless caucuses that produce many delegates. He sent his thugs in to corrupt the already disproportionate caucuses. They pushed, shoved, accosted, threatened, and threw out voters. The stole paperwork and committed fraud of every kind imaginable.
Texas was probably the worst. Over 2000 complaints were filed, even with jammed phone lines.
Hillary won the legitimate primary, then the thugs took over the caucuses and stole her delegates.
Obama blocked the revotes in FL and MI because he lost bigtime and knew he would lose again. He spent over $1.3 Million campaigning in FL, she didn’t. Hillary won with a handicap.
Then the corrupt DNC (Donna Brazile) and crooked Obama cut Hillary’s FL and MI delegates in half. But they didn’t cut South Carolina (BO’s state) in half even though SC broke the same rule.
That wasn’t enough. They gave Obama all the uncommitted votes and delegates in Michigan when he wasn’t even on the ballot. Maybe I should claim some delegates, I wasn’t on either.
He made a strategic decision to get off the MI ballot in order to gain favor with Iowa, which he did. He won Iowa (another corrupt caucus).
Those uncommitted votes are not his, and certainly not all his any way you look at it. I know people in Michigan who voted for Mike Gravel, for instance, who had their votes hijacked by Obama. They would have gone for Hillary, they can’t stand corrupt Obama.
But even that wasn’t enough for the greedy, corrupt, lying, little bastard. He had the corrupt DNC actually give him 4 of HILLARY’S MI delegates.
And, you wonder why Hillary is fighting. I think if it was me I would be fighting with swords.
Obama is an ILLEGITIMATE candidate and if the supers are too dumb to see it, the GOP will point it out very clearly.

Posted by: Dave S | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

People that say it is better for the party if Hillary quits are full of it.
They are not the ones running. We have a process that can take us to the convention if need be. I can’t believe all the people that are quiters and expect her to quit. I would not blame her for taking it to the convention just based on the bull the committee pulled yesterday by giving votes to someone that was not even on the ballot. This is a democracy and politicians need to be voted in not just given delegates. If he wanted the votes he should have left his name on the ballot. But our democratic party has lost all since of democracy in there haste to make Obama the nominee.
The way I see it the longer Obama doesn’t camaing against McCain the better. The republicans are going to eat him alive.
Don’t put down a politician for exercising their rights

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Does anyone have the videotape of Donna Brazile saying that if the SDs decided the candidate, she was leaving the party (in reference to popular vote AT THE TIME being Obama).

Posted by: RossiMa | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

“Whitey”
Starring Michelle Obama
And Louis Farrakhan
***Coming soon to a TV Screen Near You***
Synopsis: Watch leading racist Michelle Obama ranting about ‘whitey’ with the biggest racist in the country the Honorable Louis Farrakhan. Watch two of the nation’s leading racists come together. A very unique opportunity indeed.
Do not miss it.
PS: In the interest of full disclosure it is important that we mention that Michelle Obama is the wife of renowned racist and race baiter Barack Hussein Obama.
***Stay tuned for more information***

Posted by: Sore Loser Obambi | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

President Clinton,
It’s obvious this primary has brought out the worst…perhaps the most learning in us. But though I am a staunch supporter of Senator Obama, I still believe you are one of the few and best president of this great Nation. And Senator Hillary is the most capable and passionate female we’ve ever seen and am sure in whichever capacity she decides to work, she will continue fighting to make this country and world a better place for us all. Take good care of yourself my favorite prez!

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | June 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Hillary is prepared to give a speech in NY tomorrow, perhaps it will be her concession speech as the majority of the 17 uncommitted senators are planning to endorse Sen. Obama, according to CNN. In any event, once HRC is out of the picture and hopefully gives her support to the democratic nominee; as americans we can properly reflect on the historical significance of the moment. Our generation may well be defined by the success of the first ever black president. Does he unite the country, end political partisanship, restore our country around the world as the beacon of hope?, time will tell. Just think, 100 years from now our offspring could be recounting to their children how great, great grandad/grandma voted for President Obama and he changed the course of this country in the ways of past presidents like Lincoln and JFK. These are amazing times people, let’s unite! Obama08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

JudyB,
Every person has right to choose their candidate. I am going independent because I do not feel comfortbale with Obama. I find McCain as moew viable candidate compare to Obama. there is no SHAME as you think. Welcome to Democracy. McCain is not Bush.

Posted by: RJ | June 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Wow, this just might bring Hilliary some REAL tears… I wonder who Bill’s gonna blame, and I wanna know even more if Hilliary agrees with who HE feels the scapegoat truly is…

Posted by: pity | June 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

WHAT “WILL OF THE PEOPLE” IS IT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE 2 STATES THAT HER CAMPAIGN MANAGER STRIPPED THEM FOR BREAKING THE RULES OR THE 2 STATES THAT HRC SAID “WE KNOW THEY DONT COUNT”
NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN BECAUSE SHE IS LOSING AND NEEDS THE 2 STATES SHE SAID DID NOT MATTER ITS THE “WILL OF THE PEOPLE”
GET A GRIP PLEASE SHE LOST IF YOU WANT TO GO TO MCCAIN GO !

Posted by: chuck | June 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

There is NO way to compare Hillary with THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR – Obama!!! Obama is fond of saying that he will usher in a new era of bipartisanship and bridge the divide between the parties. But there is NO WAY — If he could do this, why didn’t he do so it in his three years in the Senate. If fact he has moved farther from the political center each year!! BEWARE, he is the nominee you are supposed to rally around, and he is scary!!!!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

It sure looks like there are a lot of bitter Hillary supporters posting here who for whatever reason won’t support Obama.
They like saying they won’t support him, because it makes them feel empowered. Too bad for them it’s the same three people who are making this claim.
100% of the people who I know that voted for Hillary are totally disgusted by her now.
These people are “Full of Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing”.

Posted by: STFU | June 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

WTF? Can someone explain to me how she would destroy her legacy by going to the convention when she is ahead in the pop vote – largest ever in a presidential primary? Is that the new spin? And the gracious comment really pissed me how- as you say Hillaryous. Senator Clinton has already become an Icon made by all of us (No exceptions) and we should be proud.

Posted by: Celene | June 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

I am behind Barack Obama all the way to the finish line. Everyone that believed he wouldn’t stand a chance at winning the nomination will be just as dumbfounded when he wins the general election… and I will be dancing at his inauguratio party :-)

Posted by: Holly | June 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Ok, I will try to get an answer again. If Obama wins the nomination tomorrow night, can Hillary still go to the convention in Denver with her campaign? And if she can, in what regard? I really would like to know.

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

RossiMa – Obama won, so the superdelegates would not be “deciding the election” by voting for him.

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Hillary stands proud, she stands tall, she stands up for us and for America every single day!
She is THE electable candidate in this race and represents the WILL OF THE PEOPLE!
Don’t let anyone tell you any different.
For any Superdelegate to vote against THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE and steal this nomination from the MAJORITY OF VOTERS is a miscarriage of justice and a rape of Democracy in America.
I am so sick and tired of people that just don’t get it! Oh, no, no, no, there is NO QUIT in us! There is NO RETREAT! There is NO GIVING UP OR GIVING IN!!
WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE DENIED OUR VOTES OR OUR RIGHTS!! OUR MAJORITY VOICE WILL BE HEARD AND HONORED BY THE DNC IN FULL!!
HILLARY CLINTON AND WE THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT HER REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS!!
WE ARE STRONGER THAN EVER NOW!! OUR NUMBERS ARE GROWING BY THE DAY!!
TODAY IS JUNE 1, 2008. THE VOTES OF, BY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE ARE WITH US AND TIME IS ON OUR SIDE!!
REMEMBER AND SHOUT IT LOUD AND CLEAR TO EVERYONE AND EVERYWHERE:
ON TO DENVER AND VICTORY IN NOVEMBER FOR WE THE PEOPLE AND THE 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!!

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Obama – the most LIBERAL person in the Senate!!! A vote for McCain is closer to Hillary than Obama is!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I agree but she has been had by the good ole boys club that had Donna B and others on the band wagon. I still don’t know how Donna sleeps at night but it is her karma not mine.
I can’t see Hillary taking a post in an administration after being first lady.
She is exactly what we need and that is exactly why they won’t let it happen.
I will always heart Hillary as she has what we all aspire to, be damn the trolls and their stupid kool aid ignorance

Posted by: Rossima | June 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

blackandveryproud:
There supporters? Are you deliberately spelling like a NO grader!
Your racist thing doesn’t work anymore.Sorry! Your candidate is not black he is an idiot.An Instant Media made.

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

I AM CONCERNED AT THIS POINT THAT HILLARY MAY BE HURTING HER FUTURE CHANCES. SHE AND HER CHAIRMAN ICKES ARE BEGINNING TO SAY SOME BITTER THINGS THAT MAY COME BACK TO HAUNT HER. SHE DOESNT SEEM INTERESTED IN UNITING THE PARTY RATHER IMPOSING HER WILL ON EVERY ONE. SHE IS TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING THE VERY PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED HER. THEIR ARGUMENTS ABOUT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA JUST DONT MAKE SENSE. THE DNC COULD HAVE VOTED TO NOT COUNT ANY DELEGATES, A JUDGE ALREADY RULED THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. THE RULES COMMITTEE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE SOME FAIR DISTRIBUTION OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN DELEGATES BUT SHE AND ICKES ARE NOT INTERESTED IN FAIRNESS.

Posted by: ROGER IN THE VA VALLEY | June 2, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR – Obama!!! McCain is closer to Hillary than Obama is!!!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

I am so proud of our girl. We have to get her elected. am sending another email to DNC to plea with them to be fair to Hillary. Obama will never win.He will never get Hillary supporters to vote for him after the way she has been treated

Posted by: Rossima | June 2, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

“Let’s keep fighting for our dream. Let’s keep fighting for what we believe. Let’s keep fighting for one another. Let’s keep fighting for America. America is worth fighting for. Thank you, and God bless you and God bless America.” Hillary Clinton 44th President of the United States of America!
This is why I love her. This is why we cannot give up. This country is too great to hand it over to McCain or Obama.

Posted by: Toto | June 2, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Any Hillary Supporter that jumps ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in america. How can you not vote for your party’s candidate when his platform is virtually identical to that of Hillary’s? How you justify not voting for the candidate that better suits your needs for the one who who does not? What other reason could it be besides race? Check yourself before you wreck yourself? Obama’08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

What a sad news …the only Democrat who has an ability to accomplish anything has finally sick to his stomach of the hypocrites in the Dems. party and call it quit…I don’t blame him …Howard Dean , Nancy Pelosy , Harry Reid , John Kerry …and the rest of them incompetent crews can go down the tube in Nov. with their flawed candidate Obama , who is not only Inexperient and partisan as his short term in the Senate had shown but also lack of wisdom and judgement when hanging around people like Wright , Pfleger , Ayers, Rezko…and the likes. That is not to mention that his familly and friends’ circle somehow have this anti-American view that is very similar to the Muslims and Radicals of the Middle East and that is very troublesome …Anyway , Bill Clinton , no matter you like him or not , is the only Democrat who was able to capture the Presidency for 2 full terms since FDR , ( which is more than 1/2 a century ago)…Bill lead is in a time that we are the only stable economy amist global economic crisis ..Bill presided over the longest prosperous period in America History ( and I am sure that some of you will say that it is due to the effort of Congress and Bill has done nothing but courting the interns in the White House , but Hey , if My CEO are able to lead the company to success , I can careless what he does in his private life). Bush is not BAd consider the threat the nation face during this time of war , but Bill was simply the BEst of them all…Too bad , this Dems party now will loose one of its most competent leaders….Nancy and kerry and the rest of the incompetent gang can now do what they do best , which is being incompetent ( look at the GAS prices and remember how Pelosi was raising Hell back then when Gas was $2 /gal. She asked us to put her and her gang in charge so she can fix it , well , she fix it alright …it is now $4 approaching $5 …and all they care about are the Polar bears….) …Bye Bill, good decision …we will miss you , but we don’t blame you …Why wasting your time with ungrateful people who is 1/2 your intelligence and 1/10 your ability any way.

Posted by: alohaone | June 2, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Thanks to the Clintons, the GE is now in jeopardy. Those who would vote for the party that has left the country in ruins after less than seven years, for whatever reason, are only doing it to themselves and will have years to enjoy that pleasure.

Posted by: all | June 2, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Monday, October 29, 2007
Obama campaign spokesman blasts gays at Gospel concert; white preacher and Obama say nothing
http://www.americablog.com/2007/10/obama-supporter-blasts-gays-at-gospel.html

Posted by: Toto | June 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Rossima,
I suppose you would like Obama to hand to nomination to Clinton because she is entitled to it, because she is Hillary and a woman. How sexist is that?

Posted by: Mike | June 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

I don’t get what you Hillary folks dont get, it’s over! Even if she helps Mccain to win in 2008, and she runs for president in 2012 she will never get the majority of black votes ever! Hillary will not only lose black votes, she will lose White, Hispanics, Men, Women old, young, rich and poor. We will not forget Hillary and Bill and will never forgive you for turning your back on the Democratic Party. If you were smart you would quit while your ahead because your politicle lives will be over if you do not stop this maddness…….. Make the right choice Bill and Hillary or pay the price and join the unemployment line if you are responsable for getting John McCain elected.

Posted by: ORLANDO FROM FREMONT OHIO | June 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Any Hillary Supporter that jumps ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in america. How can you not vote for your party’s candidate when his platform is virtually identical to that of Hillary’s? How you justify not voting for the candidate that better suits your needs for the one who will does not? What other reason could it be besides race? Check yourself before you wreck yourself? Obama’08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Good Grief! You people need to grow up.
This was a political race. It is not the end of the world. One candidate wins, one candidate does not.
All these threats to “go independent” “vote for McCain.”
Who the h*** cares?
Just as Senator Clinton’s supporters on the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee put their country, and their party ahead of any one person. So will a good portion of the supposedly 17 million voters who cast their votes for her.
Do you think all those people want endless war? Do you think all those people are going to continue to mortgage the future of their kids and grandkids? Do you think that none of those people realize the disaster that would be John McCain appointing judges to the Supreme Court?
Again, You people need to Grow Up! Or…Throw your temper tantrums at somebody who cares.

Posted by: ERW | June 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Just a handful of Hillary diehards in her campaign to go …
Looks like she’s preparing a concession speech for tomorrow night in NY “Expected To Suspend Campaign … ” Huffington Post and that news report comes in the wake of one about her letting some campaign staff go (Politco).
Tuesday night, it’s all over except the cryin’. Hopefully, the party can heal up to thump John McCain.

Posted by: CWatson | June 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

You know, it amazes me that a process that no one complained about for decades upon decades is all of a sudden unfair. Yes, I agree the process does need to be looked at and changed. But what really brought this about is the fact that we have to wonderful candidates. Something this country hasn’t had in an extremely long time. If there was a candidate that had the necessary delegates in Feb, no one would be complaining about the process. The process is a arguement to have after the prize has been won. Let’s come together and win the presidency. Then fix the process.

Posted by: Ikeman | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

So now the most popular votes don’t count it’s the most delegates, anyone know when BO, Kerry, Kennedy, Richardson, and crowd changed their mind about the popular vote being most important?

Posted by: Josephm20 | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Why did Sen. Clinton fail to win the nomination? (Yes, it’s over.) Blame Hillary. She is ultimately responsible, since she hired the campaign staff. History books will show that the Clinton ’08 team was poorly managed, grossly underfunded, and incredibly inept. With her visibility and the name… I figured she would be a lock on the nomination in a year that is expected to be an easy win for the democrats. Instead, Clinton’s team blew it. I’m surprised we didn’t see her strapping on a helmet and driving around in an army tank.

Posted by: Great Caesar's Ghost | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

A shame that it was Bill and not Hillary the has signified the conclusion of this campaign….perhaps.
Unfortunately, neither of them have covered themselves in glory during the contest and have, I think, gone from one mis-step to another. And I think this is another.

Posted by: Findlay | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Ok democrats, enough of the insults to one other. Remember we can fight all we want, but we will all be paying $4.00 or even $5.00 at the pump. We need to put our differences aside and get a democrat in the white house. We made a mistake four years ago and got GWB in the white house again, and now we are all paying heavily for that.
As for me, am voting for which ever democrat wins the nomination.

Posted by: Jay | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Bill Clinton……Stop trying to cheer us up.

Posted by: orange cat | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

You know, it amazes me that a process that no one complained about for decades upon decades is all of a sudden unfair. Yes, I agree the process does need to be looked at and changed. But what really brought this about is the fact that we have two wonderful candidates. Something this country hasn’t had in an extremely long time. If there was a candidate that had the necessary delegates in Feb, no one would be complaining about the process. The process is a arguement to have after the prize has been won. Let’s come together and win the presidency. Then fix the process.

Posted by: Ikeman | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

How Dumb Can You Be? Can Hillary still go to the convention even if Obama gets the delegates tomorrow night? Seems like she wouldn’t have the right to go to the convention…..right?

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

This was just Bills way of telling you there won’t be an Obama/Hillary ticket. The Clintons are way to smart for that. Despite the volume of the Obama supporters, far left idealists do not get elected President of this country, especially since even if it was un-intended, the Republicans have staked out the middle ground by running a “Republican light” candidate. The middle is where elections are won and lost in this country. Obama like many far left leading Democrates before him, will lose badly in November, and Hillary lives to fight another day. Like 2012 to be specific.

Posted by: EOBFEOBF | June 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Susan, at least we have a chance in November. How is your defeat tasting right now?

Posted by: Jim | June 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Toto,
You are really getting desperate.

Posted by: Mike | June 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Any Hillary Supporter that jumps ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in america. How can you not vote for your party’s candidate when his platform is virtually identical to that of Hillary’s? How do you justify not voting for the candidate that better suits your needs for the one who will does not? What other reason could it be besides race? Check yourself before you wreck yourself? Obama’08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

What is a shame are the few inept supporters HRC has following her that can’t cope with Obama’s victory. You call yourselves Democrats? No true Democrat would ever consider a 3rd Bush term, that is an absolutely ridiculous mindset.
For all of the older uneducated individuals who fall into her demographic and refuse to accept the fact Obama will be the nominee:
McCain has a 100% chance of continuing Bush’s failed foreign policies and driving our economy further into a sewer.
Obama has a 50% chance of pulling this county out of Bush’s rut and making it great again.
Do the math … if your capable.
I’m a 39 yr old white male, with some college living in the mid-west; for those keeping tract. Obama ftw…

Posted by: TC | June 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

jogger – Hillary has several options after Tuesday. If Obama passes the magic number of 2118 in delegates, she can
1)call Obama and concede the election and drop out of the primary
2)Suspend her campaign without conceding but, not take it to Denver either (kind of waiting for something to happen to Obama)
3)Suspend her campaign and promise to take it all the way to Denver.

Posted by: Indycvs | June 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Oh yeah the inexperienced Obama who would meet with the president of Iran with no pre-conditions, now Iran’s president claims that the countdown to wipe off Israel out of the map has begun. Yeah and some of us are stupid enough to put such a man in the White House. Dream on Obama, maybe u could be president in your make believe world, not the real world.
Posted by: Persio | Jun 2, 2008 2:39:30 PM
wow, more lies… where do you people come from?
First off, the Iranian president *NEVER* said he wanted to wipe Israel off the face of the map. That is a flat out lie. Go find the REAL translation.
Second, he never said anything about any countdown has begun. Where do you come up with this stuff?

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Hillary supporters:
If Obama gets the nomination and he does not win because of Hillary, then I do not think the Clinton brand name will survive. I do not see how any of the Obama supporters will ever vote for another Clinton (even Chelsea when she runs for office).

Posted by: Joshua | June 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Clintons Again,
Any Hillary Supporter that jumps ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in america. How can you not vote for your party’s candidate when his platform is virtually identical to that of Hillary’s? How do you justify not voting for the candidate that better suits your needs for the one who will does not? What other reason could it be besides race? Check yourself before you wreck yourself? Obama’08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

HILLARY CAN’T QUIT.
SHE’S THE WINNER.
SHE WON THE PEOPLE’S VOTES.
MOST EVER !!!!

Posted by: Julie | June 2, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

HILLARY CAN’T QUIT.
SHE’S THE WINNER.
SHE WON THE PEOPLE’S VOTES.
MOST EVER !!!!

Posted by: Julie | June 2, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Good riddance to the womanizer who was trying to coattail it back to the White House for another round of influence peddling, whilst we, the workers, the hard working Americans of all stripes, suffer the consequences of the self-centered Clintons. Turn the lights out and slam the door as you leave.

Posted by: Emilio | June 2, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Do the math … if your capable.
I’m a 39 yr old white male, with some college living in the mid-west; for those keeping tract. Obama ftw…
Posted by: TC | Jun 2, 2008 2:43:48 PM
Look, i’m an Obama supporter, through and through… but seriously, if yuo’re gonig to claim a “college” education, please learn to use the words “your” and “you’re” correctly.
You said: “Do the math … if your capable.”
It should be: “Do the math … if you’re capable.”
I know it’s not a typo because you didn’t use an apostrophe either.
Sorry to be so an*l about it, but i’m tired of people not knowing simple English.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

I knew a lot of bitter and anti-social people hung out on the internet, but you people are just plain mean. You deserve each other.

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

I just sent this to Howard Dean:
I cannot begin to tell you how disgusted I am with the Democratic Party.
I knew *last year* that the media had decided to make sure Senator
Clitnon was never elected President, but it never dawned on me that
the Democratic Party would be so sexist as to go along with them.
In the guise of keeping your middle officials to the rules, you not
only *disenfranchised* the voters of 2 states, but went out of your
way to make sure that Senator Clinton would not get elected – and
for what? For a candidate at whom no one would have loooked twice
if he were a woman, and who can NOT beat John McCain in Novermber.
You stole votes/delegates from Senator Clinton & gave them to Senator
Obama – you are a criminal.
Now I know how the Log Cabin Republicans feel.
I may actually be forced to stop voting.
I hope you’re proud of yourself.
Disgusted,
Susan Cohen

Posted by: Flavia | June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

To Indycvs: Thank you for your response. So all these posters that are saying Hillary can run as an Independent can’t happen, right? If she takes it to the convention, after Obama has won the nomination, that seems pointless, right?

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

ClintonsAgain Wrote:
To change party affiliation you can just print form on line, fill it out and mail it in. That simple!!! Plenty of time and no problems to vote in GE.
The_Peoples_Prez wrote:
Any Hillary Supporter that jumps ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in america. How can you not vote for your party’s candidate when his platform is virtually identical to that of Hillary’s? How you do justify not voting for the candidate that better suits your needs for the one who will does not? What other reason could it be besides race? Check yourself before you wreck yourself? Obama’08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

HOWDUMBCANYOUBE — You said “Guess what? Barack won this primary because he got more of the white vote in more states than Hillary got.” SORRY — Bad math! Hillary recieved more of the white vote in most states, but combine Obama’s white vote with the black vote, and that won it for him!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

the_peoples_prez,
Do you think McCain is a bad candidate?
Has he not served his country? McCain is not Bush. Why did you choose Obama since HRC has the identical policies?
Right to vote is granted by the constitution and citizens have freedom of choosing the right candidate. This is the rue essence of democracy. I am oen to vote for Obama but before that i want to hear his policies and understand what he means by ‘Change We can Believe’

Posted by: RJ | June 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

HILLARY CAN’T QUIT.
SHE’S THE WINNER.
SHE WON THE PEOPLE’S VOTES.
MOST EVER !!!!
Posted by: Julie | Jun 2, 2008 2:46:33 PM
really? so, I assume the “uncommitted” votes of the people of Michigan don’t count then, right? Oh yeah, how about all those caucus states that don’t release the number of people who voted… you know, the caucus states that Obama won pretty much ALL of… Obama has the popular vote, not Clinton. Get your facts right.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Wow. Hillary supporters are hilarious. I’m an independent, and I lean left. Usually further left than the Dems do. And this stuff just kills me. It is so blatantly about personality instead of reality. The reality is so obvious…but Clinton supporters refuse to address any of the realities. Bottom line, she lost on her own. Media bias, gender discrimination…blah, blah, blah. Quite whining. Nobody said politics is fair, but it’s still a game with rules (official and unofficial) and she just plain did not play the game as well as Barack. She had every possible advantage, even her gender was a net gain if you ask most fair-minded people, and still she blew it. Pull your heads out of your collective back-sides, face the music, and support the candidate who has the most in common policy-wise with Hillary – Barack Obama. Anything less than this is pure juvenile crap by people who should know that politics is a messy game. Grow up, get a clue, and learn for the next time around. Or hand it to McCain and be responsible for continuing the WORST policies of our generation for another four or even eight years. But whatever you choose…sorry, Hillary isn’t on the menu people. Move on.

Posted by: Jay | June 2, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

No problem voting for McCain.
First, he is a man of character who loves his country. BO not.
Second, we will likely vote for other Democrats which will create a Democratic Congress. McCain will have his hands and be unable to appoint judges or pretty much anything else.
Third, anything, yes anything, is better than a 2-faced, lying, corrupt, anti-American, racist, Chicago crook.

Posted by: Julie | June 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

First of all, I am a registered Independent. But just reading through all the “Pro-Clinton” postings, it is so evident that you people have been suduced and are manipulated by what I call the “spirit Jezebel” (one that demands “blind loyalty” through seduction, control,manipulation, deception and lies). The rancor that emits from your campaign is disgusting (a lot of anger and vicious behavior – which was on display Saturday during teh RBC meeting. I truly pray that the eyes of your understanding will be elightened so that you may see how you’ve being manipulated through lies and deceit. From the on-set the Clintons strategized their campaign (which by the way was unfair – it should have been “hers” alone )to win by Super Tuesday. That’s why her main supporter on the RBC, Mr.Ikes demanded in 2007 that both Fl and Mi be stripped 100% of their delegations for holding an early primary, instead of half like the Republican party – and then he had the gall during Saturday’s RBC meeting to say he was “apalled” at the outcome, what a vicious deceiver. I think the Clintons’ campaign was structured on a false sense of inevitability because of Bill Clinton’s legacy. Most of the votes that Sen. Clinton have won have been from voters who still hold a high regard for Bill Clinton – like voting him back into the White House would be a return to the good times of the 90′s. Hello! This is 2008, the 21st century and a much different world than when Bill was president. Who wants a flash back to the 20th century? I would have respected Sen. Clinton’s run much better if she’d run on her own strength rather than her husband’s coat tails. During this whole process, it’s like “them – his legacy and political might as a former president” against all the other candidates, so much so that one of them even remarked during a debate that sometimes he didn’t know who he was running against because he was getting it from the Senator and the former President. All the cards were stacked in her favor from the on-set. I used to pray hard for them when they were attacked by “Right Wingers” – but throughout this campaign – they have proved the “Right Wingers” were on to something afterall. Why during this primary season, they have even courted the Right Wing pundits for support – how obnoxious and gullible do they think voters are? You’ve been “suduced” – that’s the only logical answer. You make an Independent really think hard about voting for Clinton if she’s the nominee – I wouldn’t to think I helped set the “country back to the future!” Let’s move forward!

Posted by: SYLVIA I. | June 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Any Hillary Supporter that jumps ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in America. How can you not vote for your party’s candidate when his platform is virtually identical to that of Hillary’s? How do you justify not voting for the candidate that better suits your needs but rather for the one who does not? What other reason could it be besides race? Check yourself before you wreck yourself? Obama’08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

TC —- You need to brush up on your insight — McCain is NOTHING like GWBush. However, he is a centrist, which is LIGHT YEARS better than Obama – the most LIBERAL person in the Senate!!! A vote for McCain is closer to Hillary than Obama is!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

I am an independent and to those Dems who say they will vote for McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination are stupid. So you would ruin your party’s change to win the election because Hillary did not win. So you will betray All of her hard work. McCain and Hillary’s platforms are totally different. Instead of getting behind the person who gets the nom., you just say the H*ll with my beleifs and I will vote the opposite bacause my canadiate did not win. If that is the case, then you deserve what you get. I am independent and will vote for Obama bacuse McCain=4moreYRsofBUSH. Oh and if McCain does manage to win, and he sends our troops to war with Syria and any other country he deems fit to attack, you will have no right to complain bacAuse YOU WILL HAVE PUT HIM THERE.

Posted by: INDEPENDENT 08 | June 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

To ClintonsAgain….dang! I thought I had it figured out…no, I did not realize that the nomination was not official until the convention, sorry. Since there is so much talk of Obama’s acceptance speech tomorrow night because he has 2118 delegates, I thought he would “clinch” the nomination. So, you are telling me, he may not be the nominee after the convention in Denver? I guess you’re right…if something happens, either to Obama or Clinton (negative press, etc.), the SuperDelegates can change their mind and go with the other one. This is confusing….why not just let the voters decide….to me that would be the most logical way to decide on the candidate.

Posted by: jogger | June 2, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

As an independent, I don’t vote the parties, I vote the people. And there is no way I want two Clinton people back in the White house. And we all know for a fact that both Clintons will be there front and center. For that reason, although I voted Obama in the primary, if Hillary Clinton is on the Democratic ticket as POTUS or Vice-POTUS, McCain gets my vote. I see absolutely nothing in Hillary Clinton to make me think she can run this country.

Posted by: Jim | June 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

I have never seen so many bitter, irrational and uninformed people as here on these blogs in the form of Clinton supporters. I wonder if she would be whining about fairness if she were ahead of Obama and the situation were reversed? I am a white female who supports Obama, and I think one of the most sexist things someone can do is to vote for someone merely because she’s a woman. She ran a terrible campaign, couldn’t stay on message and invents facts. Nobody stole this election from anyone. Rules are rules and she has lost the game. As Bill Clinton said, “if you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen”. Now it’s time for her to be gracious and exit. For those of you who say you’re going to vote for John McCain, you never were Democrats to begin with.

Posted by: lizv | June 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Finally!! Thank you God! PLEASE let her take her toys and go home, I am SO sick of her endless whining. If she was a child, her parents would have had a good sit down straighten up chat well before now.

Posted by: it's about time! | June 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

“In every presidential election they have won, the Democrats have solidified their historic link to white workers, not dismissed them. Obama and the champions of a new party coalition appear to think that everything has suddenly changed…”
Uh, don’t look now, but that in particular, and a whole bunch of other things, HAVE changed, thank god. The Democratic Party muckity-mucks have an opportunity now to either get on board with the many-hued rank and file, or become Republicans. In which case, goodbye and good luck to you.

Posted by: Bill Kreamer | June 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Democratic party is now officially a communist party. Plays same exact tricks.

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

the_peoples_prez — You posted “Hillary Supporters that jump ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in America” — NO, just the SMART ONES! Obama is the most liberal senator!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Do you know anyone who left 450 Billion dollar surplus when he left office? Do you know any other president of our country who brought us prosperity at home and prestioge and respect around the world for us? And can you really name anyone who can hold a candle to Bill Clinton for his service to this country and the world?

Posted by: charleychaplin | June 2, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Always about Bill … he and his narcissism are ready to go peddle some more influence.

Posted by: D in Seattle | June 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

To the Hillary supporters,
I hope those of your who decide to support Obama are pleasantly surprised. You’ll be voting for a candidate who played by the rules. For those of you who are so angry and are threatning to vote for McCain, go right on ahead and do it. You’ll be screwing yourself.

Posted by: Alex | June 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Hey Hillarylanders, I am sorry that Hillary lost. If she had won I would have voted for her, because you see despite the fact I may have issues with the way she managed her campaign she did not differ that much from BHO on the issues and I am positive as we move closer to convention he will probably take on more of her policy positions because that is what happens in situations like this and she will probably demand it. Remember the last time we voted someone into office because we liked them as opposed to what they would do from a policy perspective was the the current president and he definitely messed us up.

Posted by: Darrell | June 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

“It’s sad to see how Howard Dean ruined this primary. Democratic party resembles communist party with super eliteS deciding the fate of the nation.”
Hillary Clinton isn’t a “super elite”?
And Barak Obama is?
Gimme a break.

Posted by: Bob A | June 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Loved you Bill. However, Hillary was not the one for me.
To all the Hillary supporters, take heed to her decision to support Barack. She knows he’s capable, she’s admitted to it. Start over fresh, go to CNN.com/politics and review the issues again or for the first time. Better yet, go to MyBarackObama.com and check out his plans. There only slightly different from Hillary’s. Do a side by side comparison with McCain’s plans. I believe this will shake you up and pull you back to your senses!
Again, follow Hillary’s lead on this one. She wouldn’t lead you astray. Remember?
Barack Obama ’08

Posted by: Rational1 | June 2, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

How can you sit here and be upset with the DNC when we are the ones who voted those lawmakers into office to make tough decisions such as the one in the Florida and Michigan situation? STOP the bitterness. Let us move on and UNITE AS ONE!! We cannot afford to lose one more soldier and one more house to a foreclosure!! STOP THE NON-SENSE!! PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE REAL ISSUES ARE!! Look at who put us in this mess. DO YOU REALLY WANT OUR SHIP,AMERICA, TO KEEP SINKING? Please, in the name of UNITY, OUR SOLDIERS, AND THE MILLIONS WHO ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES, I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMNINEE SHALL BE!!

Posted by: Listen UP PEOPLE | June 2, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

poor willy
now you can take your act and put it on the jerry springer show—just act natural

Posted by: rodney | June 2, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

WE WILL REMEMBER !
How the Obama supporters so viciously attacked us while completely ignoring the issues. Those supporters are indicative of Obama himself.
I will never vote for such a hate filled and vile candidate who encourages such disrespect. Never.

Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Hill is not gonna be Bill’s thrill for much longer, if my guess is correct. She stayed in that unholy union for the sole purpose of being in the vanguard for her gender. Since Bill’s pull has weakened withih the party and his influence is being sold to highest bidder, his attention was less focussed on Hillary’s camapign than on what fortunes laid ahead, should she win. He was a borderline failure as president, despite the economic boom we enjoyed during his time, he did compromise the workers of this nation with his trade deals, but he also balanced the budget. He should remember that loyalty is reciprocal; during his tenure as president the Democratic Party suffered by losing The Congress and state houses – and now he/they are looking to Super Delegates to overturn the will of the people? Time for us boomers to get out the way and let the young people run the country the way they see fit, after all it is their future we have in mind.

Posted by: Emilio | June 2, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

MDB, care to enlighten me?
Are not dems more liberal than conservative? Why would a liberal (whether he or she is a conservative, moderate or otherwise) choose to vote Republician simply because their candidate of choice is not the nominee?
Explain yourself?
the_peoples_prez — You posted “Hillary Supporters that jump ship and vote for McCain must be the ‘true racist’ in America” — NO, just the SMART ONES! Obama is the most liberal senator!

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

white fem
well said i share your feelings

Posted by: rodney | June 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Posted by pt: “I thought it was really funny that no cameras were allowed in for the bush/mccain fundraiser.”
I thought it was much funnier when the press smuggled a camera into Obama’s San Francisco fundraiser (no cameras allowed) and recorded Obama making his famous “bitter” remarks.

Posted by: LJ | June 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

jogger – It would seem pointless to the media and Obama if she takes her campaign all the way to Denver; but maybe not to her supporters – she would be hoping for a “brokered” convention and basically fight for the nomination at the convention. The strategy would be to try to get the superdelegates to switch sides at the convention. Since neither candidate can win enough elected delegates (because they are virtually tied), the superdelegates are going to put the winning candidate over the top. However, I don’t think Clinton is interested in trying this “scorched earth” policy and the DNC also seems to be insisting that the campaigns end this month.

Posted by: Indycvs | June 2, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

CharleyChaplin–
I don’t mean to be rude to you in any way, but Bill Clinton did not leave a 450 bil suprlus when he left office, cite your source.
He was a joke around the world, he did nothing when the world trade centers were attacked the first time. He did nothing to try to stop Osama Bin Laden even though he knew of the threat.
Bill Clinton disgraced the office of the president, was convicted of perjury, disbarred and impeached.
Posted by: McCain defeat | Jun 2, 2008 3:01:39 PM
More rhetoric without facts.
The FACT is… Bill Clinton DID do something after the WTC was bombed the first time… and when he had a chance to get OBL finally, it was the *REPUBLICANS* who said NO. REmember, he was the president with a REPUBLICAN HOUSE AND SENATE. It was not Bill, it was the rest of your republican ilk that said “no.”
With that said, yes, Bill did have an affair in the oval office and was impeached for lying about a sexual exploit. The current president lied about reasons to go into Iraq… cherry picked the evidence and omitted it from the bill authorizing him to go to war with IRAQ. But you know what?? due to “executive privelege” he is not answering questions about that… his LIES have so far led to the deaths of 4000+ servicemen and women… and has led to the destruction of tens or hundreds of thousands of families in the US. In addition, it has led to the deaths of up to 1M Iraqis and obliterated millions of families… oh yeah, and Al Qaida is bigger now than it ever was. But hey, keep voting republican, eh?

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

My personal opinion is that while Barack Obama has been saying nice warm and fuzzy things about Hillary and her supporters, his campaign staff has been working behind the scenes to drive the political knife deeper in her back and to undermine anyone who supports and stands up for her. Remember, this guy came out of the Chicago Democratic Machine. Not exactly a group associated with the Sisters of Mercy. Say what you will about Bill Clinton, he sees what kind of campaign Barack Obama and his campaign staff have run and I hope what he is aying that he intends to sit home during the general election and I hope Hillary sits right beside him because John McCain is going to put Obama on the defensive fast and then the Obama loving media are going to turn on good ole Barack and start pulling out all the Chicago skeletons he has hidden in his closet. He won’t know what hit him and because of people like Barack Obama, Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, Joe Andrew and the other Obama hacks, on January 20th we’ll most likely be witnessing John McCain’s swearing in as the next President of the United States. Jimmy Carter gave us 12 years of Republican leadership in the White House after his crash as President and Donna Brazille gave us good old George W. Bush when as Al Gore’s campaign manager she could not close the deal for Gore because she the thought never crossed her mind that Gore would lose his home state of Tennessee. Brazille likes to make everybody look at Florida in 2000 in order to make them look away from the fact that she lost Gore the election because she didn’t have the sense God gave a stump to mount a serious campaign in Tennessee. If Gore had won Tennessee, Florida never would have happend or mattered.

Posted by: Dennis Andrews | June 2, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

She is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party and an embarrassment to women. This act of hers will not be forgotten! Check out the pattern:
Bill Clinton–makes racist statement.
Hillary does nothing.
Gov. Rendell–makes racist statement.
Hillary does nothing.
Gloria Steinem–makes racist statement.
Hillary does nothing.
Geraldine Ferraro–makes racist statement.
Hillary does nothing.
Bill and Hillary have a very checkered past and she has been very self centered and immature during this whole campaign for such an experienced politician. She has turned voters against her because all of her antics. She pisses everyone off whenever she opens her mouth to say she’s more elect able and she has the white vote! That alone has destroyed her. And the assassination gaffe was the final nail in her political coffin! She used bad judgment throughout her campaign and I would be very scared to have her a VP. Sen. Obama would have to watch his back all the time. Sen. Obama is a master politician, a master at his work. When Sen. Obama goes up against Sen. McCain he will make him look unintelligent (as he already does) and talk circles around him. He will win the presidency by a landslide (and you can blame that on Bush). It will be truly historic! And you know what’s interesting about that is the American people know it. Of course some people just can’t face the fact because they are so single minded. Wake up America. The world is watching our every move…

Posted by: Rudolph616 | June 2, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

It’s simply too funny.
Most Obama supporters discuss on the reasons they believe he’s the best candidate whereas most McCain declared voters, including a few diehard fake-democrats Clintonistas, just furiously state they won’t vote for Obama, calling him just disgusting and unelectable.
Well, the underdog “unelectable candiadte” has beaten “strongest” with famous name one.
Just two evident options right now: pro Obama or anti Obama. It’s pretty clear who will lead American politics over the next eight years. Like it or not, you are all getting used to it. Look yourselves at the mirror!

Posted by: HankSkorpio71 | June 2, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

ConcernedCitizen — The only explanation for the media not lambasting Obama on his proposed open-ended talks with Ahmadinejad is that they seriously imagine dictator’s legs will tingle when they listen to Obama as some liberal TV hosts!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

What a pity! Democrats lost such a great opportunity.
Couple months ago, some coworkers said, Hillary will lose to Obama, and Obama will lose to Mccain.
He said American is not ready to have a black president. I believe what he said. From this long race, we know there is always race, 90 percent of the black support Obama even though they don’t know him 4 years ago. Even the white are willing to casting their votes to Obama, I believe most of Asians, Hispanics, old women and other minorities won’t cast their votes to Obama.
Do your guys understand Obama still cannot have a decisive victory until now? It is a very bad signal to the democrats.

Posted by: Obama will lose | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

There is book called ” When the elevator was out of order I took the stairs” it’s about a woman who fought with courage and determination her way to the top fighting sexism. It’s an eye opener.
McCain/Clinton 08

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Sure would be terrible to have to go through 8 years of PEACE AND PROSPERITY again.
And, that GREATEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN HISTORY was a drag.
Those damn Clintons are so smart and care about us too damn much.

Posted by: Julie | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Sure would be terrible to have to go through 8 years of PEACE AND PROSPERITY again.
And, that GREATEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN HISTORY was a drag.
Those damn Clintons are so smart and care about us too damn much.

Posted by: Julie | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Barack Obama (the inadequate black male) kicked her behind

Posted by: DJ | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

He is a good son.
He is a good student.
He is a good citizen.
He is a good lawyer.
He is a good husband.
He is a good father.
He is a good teacher.
He is a good leader.
He is a GREAT campaigner.
He’ll be a great President.
May God continue to Bless Barack Obama and the USA.

Posted by: Gerry | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

The primaries and the GE are not based on popular vote because the East Coast is only PART of the US. It may be where a larger part of the population lives, but the less popular states have a say, too. Having said that, if Obama does not win the GE, it will be because of HRC and her supporters who are more concerned with her personal gain, and putting a ‘woman’ in the WH than in defeating the Republicans. I cannot and will not believe that HRC will turn her back on her principles (you know, the ones she’s been claiming to stay in the race to preserve). To do so is to hand the elction to the Republicans. When all is said and done, the goal should be to oust the current ‘regime’, not perpetuate it by vindictiveness. I’m sure HRC knows this, and when she throws her support to Obama by week’s end, I hope her supporters follow suit. (Or I’ll begin to believe what’s being said about the intelligence of voters who support HRC.) She may have been a good President, but, SHE LOST. It wasn’t stolen from her, SHE LOST. There’s a winner and a loser. SHE LOST!

Posted by: Lindy | June 2, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

How dumb can you be, thank you for responding to ClintonsAgain rant about Obama being ‘shady’ The truth of the matter is ‘Obama’s race’ is holding him/her back from supporting him. What a shame!

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Bill is just trying to rile up Hillary supporters for one last big donation. It’s all about money and power to him.
“Boo hoo, my wife won’t ever be able to run for president again, we’re so picked on, oh, um, pleez could ya send a few more bucks our way…”

Posted by: Anon | June 2, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Hillary is prepared to give a speech in NY tomorrow, perhaps it will be her concession speech as the majority of the 17 uncommitted senators are planning to endorse Sen. Obama, according to CNN. In any event, once HRC is out of the picture and hopefully gives her support to the democratic nominee; as americans we can properly reflect on the historical significance of the moment. Our generation may well be defined by the success of the first ever black president. Does he unite the country, end political partisanship, restore our country around the world as the beacon of hope?, time will tell. Just think, 100 years from now our offspring could be recounting to their children how great, great grandad/grandma voted for President Obama and he changed the course of this country in the ways of past presidents like Lincoln and JFK. These are amazing times people, let’s unite! Obama08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

To the Hillary supporters,
I hope those of you who decide to support Obama are pleasantly surprised. You’ll be voting for a candidate who played by the rules. For those of you who are so angry and are threatning to vote for McCain, go right on ahead and do it. You’ll be screwing yourself.

Posted by: Alex | June 2, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

NO MATTER WHAT SHE IS OUT! IF YOU ALL WANT McClain GOOD! IF YOU WANNA CHANGE TO REPUBLICAN SEE YOU! BUT SHE IS OUT! YOU ALL CAN CRY! BUT SHE IS OUT! GONE! THIS IS HER LAST WEEK! OBAMA YOU ROCK! IF OBAMA DOES NOT WIN SHE WANT!

Posted by: DAVID S | June 2, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Whether it’s fair or not, the Democratic Party is going to expect Hillary to find some way to deliver her pissed off granny brigades back into the party.
If Obama gets blown out by McCain over issues like the war in Iraq or the economy it’ll be one thing.  But, if he loses by a little bit, say 5-8%, the Democrats insiders will blame Hillary for her granny brigades not coming back “home”.
And, then she’ll be toast as far as another run at the Presidency is concerned.  It is conceivable that she could mount a serious enough campaign to get them to come home that she’d be forgiven even if they don’t come home, but it’s not likely.
The Democratic Party regulars are going to be looking for results, and quick to spot any lack of enthusiasm on Hillary’s part, whether real or imagined.

Posted by: Lee C.   ―   U.S.A.    | June 2, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Here’s the reality, the one that Clinton’s supporters just won’t admin:
Obama won because he had a better campaign than Hillary. He did not win because of sexism or racism or any of this BS.
Obama’s ground game, his GOTV operation and his fund raising apparatus, are beyond belief. He has managed to do what NO DEMOCRAT has done in 40 years, in terms of getting out the vote and raising money from outside the usual sources of financing (read: the Big DC Fund Machine). Although he has gotten some money from the usual suspects, the vast majority of his money comes from small donors, who cannot, individually, influence his policies, but who can as a community. That’s called: Democracy.
Hillary had no plan for the period after Super Tuesday, because she was simply too full of herself. She simply could not believe that a shrimp like Obama could ever pose a serious challenge to her; She felt that she “deserved” the nomination, that the party “owed” her for her 8 years in the White House.
She lost her own race; then she went uber-negative, pulling out the Rove-Atwater playbook which killed Gore and Kerry. She then lost most of her supporters.
There’s always going to be a small hardcore crowd of nutjobs, like that woman at the RBC meeting on Saturday. But I think the vast majority of Democrats will fall behind Obama, and that if that happens, he will win in November.
Oh, and BTW, I was originally an Edwards supporter. I would have been happy to support Hillary, had she won the nomination fair and square. But she lost.

Posted by: DR | June 2, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Concerned Citizen-
I don’t call shooting a random missile doing something about the first world trade center.
I can’t stand George W. but I am sick of all the rose colored glasses about Bill. He was in no way a great president.
His little NAFTA project cost my town two factories to Mexico. A lot of people lost jobs, insurance and homes.
I have no fond memories of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: McCain defeat | Jun 2, 2008 3:11:05 PM
There was WAY MORE done than just shooting a missle, but that’s not going to satisfy you because your mind is made up.. that is ok… it’s your mind, not mine.
As to the NAFTA thing – i will agree with you there. NAFTA was a bad deal and it cost MANY MANY jobs… Ross Perot said it best when he said something about “listen for that great big sucking sound” when NAFTA was signed… telling us that jobs are going to be sucked right out of this nation.
BTW, Hillary Clinton told the Ohioans that NAFTA was bad… and it needs to be redone… however, it was HER who supported it during Bill’s tenure as president… she organized events and rallies to get NAFTA passed! And she had the NERVE to tell OHIOANS that she didn’t?? Amazing.
So yeah, i’m not a Clinton lover… in fact, right now, i despise them… but i cannot in good conscience say lies about Bill Clinton’s efforts on terrorism because they were many and almost all were beaten down by the republicans.

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

ConcernedCitizen — Sitting down with Ahmadinejad without precursers is like sitting down with a middle-of-the-night-intruder in your house and talking while his associate is torturing the rest of your family in the basement —- the Iranian Guard is training an supplying insurgents to KILL our troops — Obama is an imbecil!!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

For all of those who are saying Hillary supporters are bitter your right, and Obama supporters should be bitter too.
They took votes from one category and put them in another. That is not the will of the people. Obama made the choice to take his name off the ballot and now accepts votes that are not his.
He should be fighting this option with everything he has because it is not democratic. He is only in it to win. People want Hillary to quit because it would be better for the party, but don’t care that 600000 votes where tossed out the window and given to a candidate who chose to take his name off the ballot because he did not want to hear their voice.
Obama supports are great, they don’t expect him to vote on anything and they don’t have to vote for him because some committee will just give them to him.
Obama supporters, you have been duped.
You have treated this election like american idol and you decision will cost you.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

*G* I can see the Obama crowd is really working this board. All I can say is hang on to your wallets because anybody making over 75K a year is going to be considered rich and take it in the shorts with tax and spent Obama. I assure you 2 yrs from now when his politics set in all of you will be wishing for Clinton (unless you’re a looser living on $15 bucks an hour)
-JR

Posted by: John | June 2, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

HankSkorpio71
What issues are you saying Obama supporters write about. I never see an issue – just hate and personal attacks.

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Why Bill? I thought you said you will campaign your heart out for Obama?
So, since the nominee might not be your wife, you are leaving? That is not fair?
Campaing for Obama, do it for the party or are you not interested in seeing a democrat in the White House come 2009?

Posted by: James | June 2, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Briann,
The what do we have to loose attitude will be very costly.
If it is what have we got to loose then you should throw darts at a board.
The is a lot to loose that is the whole point of the Clinton campaign. The democratic party has me very concerned right now. Nancy and Howard and the whole committee from this weekend are on my sh!t list. Dean is an idot, and Nancy should go back to San Fran. If Obama happens to beat McCain, which I doubt because all the people listed above will screw it up and blame Hillary you will see just how little experience ths guy has as a leader, then we will see how long it will take for is to get into some real trouble.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

S -
You expect people to talk about issues in an internet message board? This is where angry, anti-social people come to vent their rage at someone, anyone. There are plenty of people claiming to support each candidate who are being mean and dishonest. If you want a real discussion, try the real world.

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Obama will NEVER win the general election — His skeletons will rise out of his closet and swallow him whole! I guess it’s McCain, then!!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Hillay’s presidency was never meant to happen.
Bill, take your wife and daughter home and have a nice good retirement life with plenty of money you both made by selling your bookd to poor people.
Goodbye.

Posted by: Hillary supporter | June 2, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Julie Julie Julie: Without the press your candidate would not have been able to do one single lap in this race.She kicked his butt in every debate till he started whinning like a baby. Get with the program girl. you and I know exactly what is going on. He back strokes.

Posted by: comicrelief | June 2, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

McCain defeat
All of us? Get real Buster.

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

McCain defeat —- McCain is a centrist, which is LIGHT YEARS better than Obama – the most LIBERAL person in the Senate!!! A vote for McCain is much, much closer to Hillary than Obama ever will be!!!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

For all of those who are saying Hillary supporters are bitter your right, and Obama supporters should be bitter too.
They took votes from one category and put them in another. That is not the will of the people. Obama made the choice to take his name off the ballot and now accepts votes that are not his.
He should be fighting this option with everything he has because it is not democratic. He is only in it to win. People want Hillary to quit because it would be better for the party, but don’t care that 600000 votes where tossed out the window and given to a candidate who chose to take his name off the ballot because he did not want to hear their voice.
Obama supports are great, they don’t expect him to vote on anything and they don’t have to vote for him because some committee will just give them to him.
Obama supporters, you have been duped.
You have treated this election like american idol and you decision will cost you.
Posted by: texas outlaw | Jun 2, 2008 3:17:37 PM
Wow, do you understand what the word “hypocrite” means?
Here, let me spell it out for you.
1) It was HILLARY’s CAMPAIGN MANAGER ICKES who forced the issue to remove all the delegates from FL and MI. Once that soaks in, go on to the next point.
2) All Democratic candidates removed their names from the MI ballot… WHY? because the DNC (you know, the body which governs the democratic party) said their votes do not count… so off they went. No campaigning whatsoever. OOPSIE, Clinton LEFT HER NAME ON THE BALLOT! So, now the voters only had a choice of her, or uncommitted.
3) Since no one else had their names on the ballot, essentially people are forced to vote for Hillary. But wait a sec… 44% or something voted for “uncommitted”… I’m SURE none of the were for Obama, right? LOL.
So, you’re all talking about how ALL VOTES MUST COUNT… OOPS, except for those HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS that voted for “uncommitted” because they had no other choice… and oh yeah, plus those votes that went to Hillary because she was the ONLY NAME on the ballot (bullying into voting for her at that point). Riiiiiight… but yes, all votes must count.
So, explain to me why Hillary said that FL and MI do NOT MATTER… these were HER WORDS… and then miraculously, they suddenly matter?
Explain to me why HER CAMPAIGN MANAGER ICKES forced the DNC hand and made them EXCLUDE ALL VOTES and then later was surprised that the DNC would exclude their votes??
Something does not seem right at the circle K

Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | June 2, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

If everyone on this comment page is being serious, it’s clear that neither Democrat can win the General Election. I think it’s more an indictment of us than anything. Obama spent his entire campaign trying to transcend identity politics… and yet no primary race has broken more on identity lines by race, gender, income, education level, region, and age. For Dems to win, the country will have to stop thinking of the candidates as representative of a certain electoral identity block, and instead start talking about the issues and the business of government, which is vastly more important.
Or we can just lose in November. Either way.

Posted by: Joeskeys | June 2, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Bill’s end to campaigning won’t come for a while. After Tuesday, if Obama goes over the top on delegates, Hillary may suspend her campaign but she will be doing one of two things: either (a) trying to muscle her way into the Vice Presidency, or (b) trying to change delegates and superdelegates’ minds before they formally declare at the convention. She will still be campaigning for the presidency and Bill will be right there with her. She’s not going anywhere. Where is Buffy when we need her?

Posted by: Kathy | June 2, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Obama will probably lose in Nov., and the principal reason is that about 15% of the white population in this country is flat-ass racist. You can talk all you want about Rev. Wright and Michelle and “Hussein” but the FACT is that those things don’t bother anyone who isn’t already bothered by him being black. If he loses in Nov. it will force America to wake up to how racist it still is. And, although I’ve been a lifelong Democrat, I don’t really care whether Hillary might or might not have beaten McCain. I frankly don’t have any idea what she stands for at this point.

Posted by: pundit | June 2, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Joy — Absolutely No racism here — just the realization that Obama will take this country SOOOOO far left, it would take decades to recover — the guy was actually brought up with a marxist “mentor”, and his policy ideas are ALL socialistic. I dont care if he is Green, he is NOT qualified to be president!

Posted by: MDB | June 2, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

McCains Defeat, I would like to think that Obama could win the GE without HRC on the ticket. I for one would like to see a ‘COMPLETELY’ new look in the whitehouse and on the political landscape. Dashcel or Webb is my choice for VP.

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Joy,
Barack Obama is the reason for all of this racial retorhic. What makes him an authority on racial issues. Where has he brought a coalition of mixed races. You can’t say his campaign has, becuse all the candidates have brought in all races all genders and all ages.
He has brought in over 90% of the black vote. Your trying to tell me that he does not inflame the racial issue. His comments thus far regarding his pastors, his church, and even his family havn’t proven that he is the one to solve this problem. Obamas comment about working class white people. You know the typical white person that clings to their religion and guns when things are not going their way.
Obama is bringing his racial problems with him to the GE. Hillary would have done more for this area as she has worked for equality her entire career, unlike Obama who has run for elections his entire career.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Obams supporters we get it.The Clinton are BAD, The DNC nominated them. Now we have accept Obams as good? Not with that kind of record of judgementfrom the DNC.

Posted by: joker4usa | June 2, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

I cant beleieve the people on here spewing nonfactula things about obama. Dayum sore losers and to think its just about white working people is garbage. There many more working in this country besides whites tha have stuck by this party through thick and thin. Even when Clinton was getting impeached they stuck with him. african americans have stuck with this party. Latinos. stop it. white folks act like they built this country alone and biult the democratic party. its sickening to hear this crap. The clintons lost and they have no one to blame but themselves. They got out campaigned and outsmarted and a leader can rise above and come back from set backs. Obama did. He hstumbled but admitted his mistakes and kept going. Didnt blame anyone. U need to look at the clintons associates. U gotta be kidding me. Well u try and win the election without african americans. See what happens. No democratic candidate has won without the african american vote. Dems barely get low income white folks anyway because they believe in the GOP’s false national security claim when they cant even feed their families.

Posted by: Eman | June 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Put him out to pasture, where he can make megabucks from his rich corporate pals but won’t bother the rest of us.

Posted by: funnyguy | June 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

pundit
Obama supporters always reduce everything to race. If you’re against the puppet, you’re a racist.
Too bad you can’t think of anything positive to say about your candidate that would actually change someone’s mind about his ineptitude.

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Finally, we may be done with all the Clintons and their shady friends. From Mark Penn to Hillary’s brother and his $400,000 fee for gaining pardons from friends. We will never have a progressive nation as long as the Clinton’s were at the helm of the party. In the 90s the Dems lost control of both houses of Congress and most of the state legislature and 10 governorships. What’s good for the Clintons is bad for Dems.

Posted by: rick | June 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

If Hillary and Bill would look past their egos, they would see they can be utilized to the fullest. But nooooooo their egos want let them believe that there are people that don’t want them in charge. Just like her MANDATE on healtcare, some people don’t want to be MADE or FINED unless they go along with her. The Dems need to come together and defeat the WARMONGER

Posted by: Flander Annapolis | June 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

My own opinions:
McCain – I thought he was one helluva candidate 8 years ago when he ran against Bush. Something has happened to the man now. If he had the same ideas/views now that he’d had then, he would’ve had my vote.
Clinton – I actually supported her the most when the contests began. I have no doubt that a woman could do the job as well as a man. When she started out, she was running a clean campaign. The she started playing dirty, and was constantly wanting the rules changed to favor her. She started to lose my respect at that point,and I started to look at what Obama had to say.
Obama – Is he perfect? Absolutely not. He’d probably be the first to admit it. But having someone that can admit that they will make mistakes, but knowing that they’ll learn from them is better then our current Bush government, where nothing he’s done is a mistake.
To all the women and men, who claim that they will vote for McCain if Hillary doesn’t win, well I think if you’re truly democrats, that won’t ever happen. If you are truly a democrat, and are just upset that a woman is getting passed over in favor of a man again, look at how positive this whole thing has been. Hillary has proven that a woman could win the presidency, it might not be her, but she’s made the path a lot easier for future generations to run at it. The same with Obama. They have made great strides in showing that this country can look past race or gender (For the most part), and select the best person for the job.
Join together, make sure that person is a democrat, not a Republic.
I’ve become so disheartened with this country over the last 8 years that if I truly could, I would choose some other country to live in. It severely disappoints me when I see people comment “I won’t vote for Barack Hussein Obama” or “I won’t vote for a black man”. I’d always hoped that American had grown past that, and this race has proven that to a large extent it has.
As for the Muslim thing, The gentleman has said that he’s a Christian. I haven’t seen him produce a membership card. But I thought that a “christian” was supposed to take people at their word and not judge. He can’t provide physical proof that he’s a christian anymore than he can produce proof that he likes tofu.
Let’s just put all the anger, hatred,and bitterness aside and pull together for the Future of America.

Posted by: Rick | June 2, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

I’m amazed at the negative comments aimed at Sen Obama from Sen Clinton supporters. Why don’t her supporters admit she ran a lousy campaign and made numerous strategic blunders from the outset. Many of her supporters have stated they will not vote for Sen Obama in a GE, well then don’t. As I see it you have three choices, don’t vote at all, vote for Sen Obama or vote for John McBush and get 4 more years of crap. It’s your move…

Posted by: whcjr46 | June 2, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

If we are Democrats we should now align ourselves behind our nominee for president. To the interlopers, you know who your are, you faux Democrats like parasite feeding off a carcase, are free to go vote for a mentally disturbed candidate of the loony right. No amount of threats will make the position of some of Hillary’s supporters logical. For two candidates, with pretty much the same agenda in mind, not to have a basic appeal to thier opponent’s supporters means that there was something more sublime, perhaps even esoteric, taking place. Could it really be so, that Hillary Clinton, the one honored to speak at black affairs, could she really be a racist, and her glomming followers could not countenance casting their vote for a black man?

Posted by: Emilio | June 2, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Pundit,
Are you saying that it is 15% of white people that are racists?
Lets see, over 90% of the black vote went to Obama. Are you trying to tell me that race did not have anything to do with these peoples decision? Are you trying to tell me there is not at least 15% if those people are racist.
There is pure evidence of racism in these numbers, but you want to talk about the white people. I don’t see anywhere that 90% of the white vote on anything. You should rethink your racist blog.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Hey S:
Go ahead, say it. There’s no real racism in America. Racism won’t have any significant influence on the election in Nov. Look at yourself in the mirror and say it. Betcha can’t.

Posted by: pundit | June 2, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

I thought the Clintons stated they were going to get fully behind the nominee, which would include campaigning.
Bill’s statement sounds like they will not be actively assisting Obama’s campaign.
Strange. That might lead one to believe that the VP thing isn’t happening for Hillary.

Posted by: Odd statement | June 2, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Many HRC supporters have tag names that were popular 50′s names. This nearly 68 year old White LOL has been voting since JFK. We females were quietly and with dignity the real feminists. We had no name recognition to help us in our quest for female equality. The foul language and hate you females are spewing is setting us back by years. The pictures of HRC supporters in DC are making the overseas media – overweight, unkempt, fists in the air, wide open mouths and hate filled faces. Congratulations – you have confirmed the view that many countries have of Americans. Who cares you say? Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. In the meantime, many Obama supporters were out signing up voters. It is too late, I believe, for HRC to register as an Independent. And, what would she use to pay for it? Your contributions? She has already overspent by $20-$30 millions. DNC cannot even pay for the Convention so you had best pay up for that too for HRC to even be able to get onto the floor. Face facts. You little voters do not have the clout to keep her in politics. She needs the big names and money to have a career. She could not even handle campaign finances and she put blind loyalty in who she hired over good judgement. So please move to McCain -NOW- and plot your strategies for November as planned by RossiMa. Hopefully, he/she is a better strategist than HRC’s Sean Penn, etc. Dems can then get on with the election. Note: HRC has a problem in withdrawing her candidacy at this time or she needs cooperation. As a candidate she is protected from being subpoened in a California Court civil case, Paul vs. Clinton (Bill), in Los Angeles and already in the deposition phase regarding HRC’s senatorial campaign finances. If you want truth, if you dare, do a search for the official Court documents on the website. Another stinker. But, truth is not always palatable.

Posted by: KiwiTrici | June 2, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

All I can do is thank God that Bill won’t campaign for Obama. He’s done enough damage to his own wife. Obama doesn’t need that kind of liability.

Posted by: mlk | June 2, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

McCain Defeat, I hope for the good of the country and our children’s future, all democratics can get pass whatever it is that alienates them from Obama and vote democrat. I find it somewhat amusing that as long as I have been voting, color was never any issue as both candidates were always white, so I voted for he candidate that could best help me as a middle class american. I wish all voters where color blind during this democratic process and were shielded from the media ‘race’ propaganda, then they would simply vote as I have always voted.

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Odd Statement-
Do you think Obama wants Bill out there speaking for him?

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

“I thought I was out of politics, ’til Hillary decided to run.”
Is Bill telling us he never envisioned Hillary running for President? He never thought he would be campaigning again? Really? How dumb does he think we are?

Posted by: dave | June 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

texas outlaw:
How many Obama supporters voted against Hillary because she is white? How many Hillary supporters voted against Obama because he is black?

Posted by: pundit | June 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

mlk–
Good point. I didn’t think about that.
Bill does seem to have a fatal case of foot in mouth disease.

Posted by: Odd statement | June 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Hillary is prepared to give a speech in NY tomorrow, perhaps it will be her concession speech as the majority of the 17 uncommitted senators are planning to endorse Sen. Obama, according to CNN. In any event, once HRC is out of the picture and hopefully gives her support to the democratic nominee; as americans we can properly reflect on the historical significance of the moment. Our generation may well be defined by the success of the first ever black president. Does he unite the country, end political partisanship, restore our country around the world as the beacon of hope?, time will tell. Just think, 100 years from now our offspring could be recounting to their children how great, great grandad/grandma voted for President Obama and he changed the course of this country in the ways of past presidents like Lincoln and JFK. These are amazing times people, let’s unite! Obama08

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

The polls with all the Obama hating Hillary supporters factored in still indicates a win or close contest with McCain.
Obama doesn’t need all the Hillary supporters to vote for him, just a small percentage of the bitter supporters who claimed they refuse to vote for Obama. For the rest of you, the influence of your flip has already been factored into the polls. So, if you want to vote for an old man who is just going to be continue to the failed Bush policies, go on. The rest of you former Hillary supporters with common sense and slightly bruised egos will vote for Obama.

Posted by: Ann | June 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Dear Author
Please read the comments. You tell me did the Clinton’s create this divide. You have people speaking above about Muslim rumors, about McCain not supporting Bush’s policies, throwing his grandmother under the bus; about a secret society promoting an Obama candidacy … about every issue which is not based in fact. These people are emotionally tied to Clinton and the thinking is not grounded in fact. It sounds like they are replaying the emotional, emasculating, but subtle arguments of Hill and Bill Clinton. I guess my question is which came first the chicken or the egg? Can the Democratic Party recover? It seems that this type of damage can not be corrected by an embrace and a hug!!! Ii know this will be the story line from here until November but GOD PLEASE HELP WORKING FAMILIES, THE MIDDLE CLASS, THE WORKING HOMELESS A GROWING SEGMENT OF OUR SOCIETY…For all those people out there who think McCain is better …Where do you think all those families who were just foreclosed on will go? I am sure that they are your relatives. or your friends, or your neighbors. And No they are not just people who got in over their head and are looking to be bailed out as Sen. John McCain has stated. PLEASE WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: Cassandra | June 2, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

The flame wars here are depressing. Makes me sad.
I think Hillary personally shares responsibility, along with Bill, for pitting their supporters against Obama. Obama supporters also share responsibility for being too defensive.
Either way, it’s an all-around sad state of affairs if you are someone who cares about the GE.

Posted by: dave | June 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Pundit,
I can’t say for sure, can you?
Are you trying to say that there is no reverse racism from blacks to whites?

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Flander Annapolis
After the hateful attacks by the Obama camp, why would anybody sane vote for the Pelosi Puppet?

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

This opening up and emotional bleeding is upsetting to those of us with a weak constitution, however, if we can follow this crazy period with one of valued judgement we can certainly get over this heartbreaking period of infighting and acrimony. We need the true Democrats to stand firm realizing what’s at stake in the upcoming General Election. If we allow the continuation deeper into fascism, which John McCain has promised to do, we can kiss the future, of those following us, goodbye.

Posted by: Emilio | June 2, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

WE WILL REMEMBER !
How the Obama supporters so viciously attacked us while completely ignoring the issues. Those supporters are indicative of Obama himself.
I will never vote for such a hate filled and vile candidate who encourages such disrespect. Never.

Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

texas outlaw:
I agree with you that many whites voted for Obama. That doesn’t disprove the statement that 15% of the white population is racist. Look at the exit polling from Ky, WVa, and even Ohio. Between 15-20% said that “race was a significant factor” in their decision. Of that group, between 75-80% said they voted for Hillary. There simply isn’t any other reasonable inference that can be drawn. And remember — those were DEMOCRATS! Imagine what the numbers are among Republicans!

Posted by: pundit | June 2, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

McCains Defeat, Kudos to you! Again, my hopes are that this party can truly unite to take advantage of a real winnable election. The american landscape is changing and I think it would be wonderful for my bi-racial children to look at the next president and believe they are no different than any other american.
God Bless!

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Whether you like the Clintons or not, Democrats need to realize that party unity is everything. Many of Obama’s supporters haven’t witnessed or studied past presidential elections. Dismissing and disparaging the “hillbillies,” “trailer population,” “uneducated,” etc. is a recipe for electoral defeat. Democrats need the black vote, Latino vote, academic vote, youth vote, women vote AND the white working class vote. Heck, the Great Society and New Deal–Democratic pillars–embrace both minorities, women and working class whites. While those constituencies have been remarkably loyal to the Democratic Party, there has been one component that has strayed and might well be the reason for the Democratic Party’s lackluster success at electing presidents. As we know, the party’s success rate at electing presidents is dismal. We have elected only four Democratic presidents in the last half century–and only one of those served two full terms. Those four are JFK, LBJ, Carter and Clinton. All of those presidents won with considerable support from the white working class (one of the reasons that LBJ was selected as JFK’s running mate was so that he could help deliver Southern whites). Both Carter (in his first campaign) and Clinton won by attracting significant numbers of this group. Both won states in the Rust Belt and more conservative Southern states. However, many of these more conservative (commonly called Reagan Democrats) constituencies bailed ship to vote for Reagan in ’80 and ’84; Bush in ’88, and Bush in 2000 and 2004. Clinton retained their vote during his two presidential elections. The only successful Democratic presidential candidates in the last 50 years (the few we’ve had) have won with the significant support of white working class voters. The Democratic Party needs to come together, and members have to stop the disparaging remarks and snobby attitude or else we forfeit an election that is ours to lose.

Posted by: Democratic Observer | June 2, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Unite? For what? I’d rather see McCain in the White House instead of the guy with hate monger friends!

Posted by: voter | June 2, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

> Just like it took the Florida recount
> fiasco to show the nation how messed
> up the mechanics of voting were, I
> hope this primary season shows the
> Dems how messed up their selection
> process is. Dems need to fix this
> primary mess before the next
> election cycle!!
And I do recall Hillary and her supporters complaining about the DNC rules at the beginning of the primary season … NOT!
Neither Hillary nor Obama said much about the Florida or Michigan outcome precisely because BOTH (ALL) candidates agreed to the rules AT THE BEGINNING. The time to complain about the unfairness and/or alleged undemocratic nature of the rules was WAY BACK THEN.
Why do you suppose all the fuss now? Could it have something to do with the fact that Ms. Clinton is losing? Nah. Couldn’t be that. It’s just that Hillary (and her supporters) found Jesus months into the race and realized how bad their party rules were.
Give me a break! You’d have to be drinking some serious Kool-Aid to not see this gamemanship for what it is — any and all efforts to get back what a candidate wrongfully believed would be their’s.
Pride cometh before a fall. Karma. And all that.

Posted by: Gorbe | June 2, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

I wonder, if the shoe were on the other foot and for every election in the last 200 years (not that blacks have been able to vote for 200 years or were even allowed to after gaining the right, but..) whites had had to vote for a black man, how would vote given the opportunity to vote for a white man? I am sure a few would base their vote for what they thought was the best person, maybe 10%, but you can bet your bottom dollar 90% would vote for the white man.

Posted by: Henk | June 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

And the nation breathes a collective sigh of relief.
Have a nice retirement, Bill.

Posted by: Jim | June 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

I voted for Bill twice, and after South Carolina, I could care less if he ever works publicly again. He ruined his legacy, all with flapping his own lips about Jesse. Ickes and Ferraro had better curb themselves, or the debts Hillary has won’t be taken over by Obama.
Hillary can go back to the Senate, which is hardly a hardship for any politician.

Posted by: bear | June 2, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Let’s just all take a deep breath and think beyond our navels. The General Election is about the future of our country; that’s what’s at stake. The criminals have taken us to the verge of doom, McCain will shove us all over the edge. So stop this pettiness over which of our two superb candidates crossed the finishing line, or likely to, first. We need to take our country out of the jaws of the demons. We need to bring back some of those lost jobs to these shores. We nedd to provide our children with an education that will enable them to compete in the world. We need to recsue our justice system from the croney fascists who have politicized it. We need to fix our infrastructure – instead of blowing up parts of Iraq we need to use the money spent on bombs toward making things better here at home. We need to solve the nightmarish mortgage crisis. If you all cannot understand that this boondoggle, this high crime of theft perpertrated on the American public by the Bush regime and the continuation promised by John McCain, then we will be doomed. So think about what life will be like for you after they’ve fleeced us and forced us into a third-world lifestyle. We have to stop them, but we’re making such asses of ourselves instead of plotting wise strategies to recover our beloved country.

Posted by: Emilio | June 2, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

It all depends on what the definition of “Campaign of This Kind’ is?
(kidding aside)
It might be true that Hilary Clinton would have been less of a risk for the democrats to get a president this November – I still like Barrack’s chances…..

Posted by: ivan | June 2, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Frankie ?
What should Obama apologize for? Those words were not his. I know it’s killing all of you Hillary supporters but these are the facts! Suck it up you sore losers and stop trying to blame Obama! She ran her campagin very poorly and that stupid gas tax stunt was particularly pathetic.

Posted by: roxanne | June 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

JImt
the speactacle on Saturday showed that the SDs and the DNC menbers have no interest in democracy… so they will face the death of their party if not anythin more drastic!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

If I am mistaken, Bill did not campaign for any of the elections since leaving office. do you think that Gore and Kerry would have won had he been campaigning and advocating the same? do you think that it was their plan to get this economy destroyed so that it would strengthened their chances? Hillary and Bill are about themselves, not about the party and the people. They sold off America while they were in office.
He forgot to mention: Barack Obama is no Kerry and GOre. He does not give up. He has the people he needs with him. He is from CHicago where they ruff and tough for things they believe in. Hillary’s supporters can go back to the republican tree they came from.
We don’t need bigots in our party.

Posted by: Tracey | June 2, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Well gee Bill, the election isn’t until November, and being that you’re the last Democratic president, maybe you should help elect the nominee(..?). What do ya say, Bill? Can you put aside your inter-party bickering and ego stroking long enough to help defeat McCain? We’re gonna need ya.

Posted by: Paul | June 2, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Folks:
Step back and think. I realize we are in the last of the heated part of the primary campaign and some things said now could be incredibly damaging—-
Remember 2000, Obama fans. Had Gore gotten Bill Clinton on the stump earlier—-these last eight years of tragedy and atrocity would have been much different, maybe never have happened. 9/11 might not have happened because the intelligence report that sat on Bush’s desk from August 6th until September 12 might actually have been read and something done to intervene.
This election is too important for you Obamacans to gloat. We need unity!!!!
As for Hillary supporters—she ran a tough campaign and is very good on the issues. Do you really think that McCain is closer to what her vision is for the country? Just take the Supreme Court—for all of those who are concerned about civil liberties—Do you think McCain will appoint anyone like Ruth Bader-Ginsberg? I see only more Scalias, Roberts, Alittos, and their ilk. Can you/me afford another 40 years of activist judges on the right—Think 2000 election.
For anyone who cares about international relations and our standing among the nations of the world, do you want to reinforce the Bush doctrine of might makes right—-world opinion be damed— “if you don’t like it—-too bad, I’m going to do it anyway.”
Diplomacy and negotiation and finding common ground where all can be winners is not in McCain’s rule book—-it will be at least 4 more years of Bomb, Bomb, Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan and who knows where else?
For all of those concerned about our military—look what eight years of Republicans have done for that—-Can you say Walter Reed Hospital scandal, can you say injured veterans returning from the war and not getting adequate support—the increased level of suicides, the lack of emotional support for families with soldiers on 2, 3, and 4 overseas deployments—the shredded state of an overstretched military and with worn, or worse, nonfunctioning equipment—remember the troops injured and killed because of lack of protective armor?
As for people at the margins of our own society, the poor, the elderly, the young, the sick—-Do you really think that McCain cares? If you are Latino/Latina or African American or Asian or anything besides a successful, countryclub, golf playing, upper middle class person——You don’t register with the Republicans—compassionate conservatism—what a lie that was!!!!
Please—take a breath; realize that the stakes are way too high for our society to put another republican in the oval office again for a long time.
I was for Hillary, voted for her in the primary AND I support Barak, will campaign for his election and hope to God, he wins.
WE can not afford 4 more years of Bush league rule, and neither can the world.
AND I am a white older American male who has been inspired by politicians and believe that we need a new generation of leaders like JFK and RFK.
Hillary, you’ll be great on the Supreme Court, or as a leading senator cut from the same cloth as Teddy—-.

Posted by: David | June 2, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Carpe Diem,
You are the last of a dying breed–staunchly ignoring the facts about you to defend your ego-driven, monolithic ideology. Obama has made history by building the largest grassroots political organization in presidential politics–or is this just “hype” and “vague rhetoric”? Are the millions of people who have volunteered and donated just a fabrication? He has out-fundraised every candidate who came before him–or are those numbers and figures fudged? Wake up and smell the reality of this movement. McCain has big problems; he can’t compete with the fundraising, the use of technology (blogs, viral videos), etc. He’s a dinosaur and Obama is the nimble future.

Posted by: chin075 | June 2, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Chin075
Um.. it is tue that Obama has over a million small donors bu his braintrust and the real bucks come from congressional lobbyists that are in the Insurance industry for example… that the third way of financing he talks about without saying it… despicable… Oh we will fight you in the streets…. peferrably in Denver bu anywhere it this point…. the DR&B committee looked like abject fools on saturday!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Another trick to make us believe they are ready to exit but notice how he says ‘maybe’ – it means nothing , do not get too excited !
They are the best at lying – remember “i did not make love to M…”
Bosnia ; guilty by association referering to Robert Kennedy’s assesination.
Senator Obama has to stop being so nice
DO NOT PAY HER DEBTS and do not rescue the African Americans that supported her , they are old enough to know what they are doing . I say let them be brave enough to stand up to their decisions and live with them !
AMEN

Posted by: Barry08 | June 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Martin Luther King- fought for equal rights that extended to Hillary so that she and Obama can run.
Fannie Lou alkong with outer black owmen formed the Mississippi Democratic Freedom Party- formed a black party that would aloow blacks to vote since we could not vote in the white party.
The history of our country has been pro white and anti- everyone else. This sense of entitlement that they have. Everyine has to fight for their piece of the pie.
No president has more of a white and black side with an immigration experience than Obama. so after all of this talk about us intergrating, how can you talk like we are in the 60′s and 70′s. Black constituents have been the MOST loyal to this party. why nt let other constituents of this party represent the whites. You can not always have whites respesent all of us and then get mad when a black/white man wants to do so.
If you white people could allow people liek robert Byrd and david dukes, former KKK members, you can allow Obama, a man you all consider black when in fact he is black and white.
P.S. Just thought I’d teach you something, you are adopting the historic “one drop of black blood” rule. Slave owners used this alot against black people as well as the Jim Crow laws. m Youmight want to educate yourself a bit about black history and fast forward to 2008 where any one should have a chance to be president.
Obama -08′ don’t hate, just participate

Posted by: tracey | June 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

GOOD JOB, BILL!!
WELL, DONE BUBBAH.
SWELL HUSBAND, INDEED. YOU IMPRESSED ME.
ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE REALLY PROUD OF YOU.
THEY WERE FIGHTING AGAINST THE ODDS. MEDIA, FANATICS, BAD DNC LEADERSHIP, MESSAIH THAT WENT BURST, PELOSI LIES, ENDORSERS FROM HELL..
A BUNCH OF DNC LOSERS WERE STACKED ON ONE SIDE..
THE ANTI-CLINTONS
THE WOULD-BE CLINTONS
I LOVE HOW YOU MADE ALL THOSE STRATEGICALLY PLANTED ENDORSEMENTS OF OBAMA WORTHLESS.
RICHARDSON- NO EFFECT
JOE ANDREWS.. AN IDIOT PARASITE
EDWARDS -EDWARDS IS FOR EDWARDS, CUNNING THING
MCGOOVERN–SUCKED THE BLOOD OF A GIRL WHO IDOLIZED HIM–WORST TRAITOR OF THEM ALL…
KENNEDY– WELL THAT’S A WHOLE OTHER STORY.
LOSERS .ORG BUNCH OF TRAITORS.
THEIR ENDORSEMENTS DIDNT HAVE THE DRAMTIC EFFECT OF ENDING THE PRIMARIES. THANKS FOR THAT ALONE, BILL
YOU THE MAN!!
TJ, THE CLINTONITE, MAD AS HELL WITH DNC ELDERS. MAD AS HELL ABOUT MI

Posted by: TJ | June 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

ChinO75,
Don’t write of the old Foggies in the Republican party. Not all of them believe there is more then one internet.
You speak as though Obama has a wrap.
You will also be suprised how many people will show up and vote against Obama, no matter how much he spends.
Take a look at PA, OH, and WV. Obama spent a tone of money and look what it got him. To many people are getting caught up in the Obama rallies. Rallies and fund raisers do not equal votes.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

My second response today–and the first 2 ever.
Woe is me…..again so many negative, irresponsible, angry responses…
No one is perfect.
BUT all of citizens who have been in public office have put their life at stake. And done much positive.
Please, Americans of all race etc who are capable of positive thought and participation–STEP UP!
Remember, our country survives solely due to the capable and kind.
Get serious, those of you exploiting the chance to put idiotic notions out there for the rest of us to mourn about.
Unfortunately, most of the angry and idiotic probably cannot even recognnize their destructive nature.
THE REST OF US MUST UPHOLD AND FIGHT A CLEAN FIGHT TO CARRY OUR DEMOCRACY FORWARD AND UP. GOD BLESS THIS WORLD AND OUR HERE IN THIS LAND TOO.

Posted by: syd | June 2, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Nik,
Obama is not going to pull out of Iraq either. So put a cork in it.

Posted by: J | June 2, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. These posts prove that mankind is his own worst enemy.
Out of opposition against Obama, Clinton supporters are deflecting to McCain. Rather than rightfully acknowledging that Clinton simply lost, they’re looking for someone to blame. They blame Obama for being a candidate of affiramative action, for being racist, for being sexist, for the media’s treatment of Clinton, for Obama being a media darling, for the superdelegates for CHOOSING to vote for Obama, for four Michigan delegates given to Obama that wouldn’t make a hill of a beans difference since Hillary is down 200 delegates….it’s someone else’s fault.
What will be, shall be. Four additional years of turmoil…the continuous downward spiral of the dollar….gas and food prices that are unbearable for the average citizen…no universal healthcare….war in Afganistan, Iraq and Iran….U.S. isolation from the rest of the world….
McCain ’08!

Posted by: Nikki | June 2, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Some of you need to listen to yourself. Whining over the fact that one candidate lost to another.
Politically, there is very little difference between the two. Personality-wise, there is a universe of difference.
Obama ran the better, smarter campaign — within the rules agreed to by all sides. Hillary made some serious tactical errors early on (the most serious being that the primary was noting more than a formality) and when it was starting to become clear to her that she was not going to be able to catch up, she wanted to change the rules.
She also decided to sabatage the nomination. If SHE wasn’t going to win, then she was going to make sure Obama wasn’t going to win either. She gave her supporters “permission” to vote against Obama in the General Election by saying Obama couldn’t win because of his race, or because he wasn’t “experienced”.
Obama never said Hillary couldn’t win because she was a woman.
As far as “experience” goes, being the wife of a president isn’t much of an experience. My wife is a brain surgeon,but that doesn’t mean that I can perform brain surgery.
All of you women out there complaining about the “misogyny” going on because a woman lost to “an inadequate black man”: vote for McCain and you can be sure to kiss abortion rights and virtually every gain women have made over the past fifty years goodbye.
A woman is going to become president someday. Just not THIS woman.

Posted by: DJ Allyn | June 2, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

J:
I’ll put a cork in it when you prove to me that Obama is not going to end the war in Iraq. I have followed the issues and debates closely. Obama will not be able to remove the troops overnight, but he will end this war. By the way, if you’re a Clinton/McCain supporter, shouldn’t you be enlisting right now? Come on…there’s a war going on and they need you.

Posted by: Nik | June 2, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Nikki, I am not worried about the delegates the Obama got in MI. It is how the committee decided to give them to him. They should have left them uncommitted as the candidate suggested they do and made the delegates vote for Obama instead of just giving it to him. He took his name off the ballot and should not be rewarded for it.
Has nothing to do with him wining the nomination, it is about counting votes after a voter went into a booth and voted. Everyone should be fighting them on this, including the Obama camp. they are more concerned with naming a nominee then they are about counting votes. They set a horrible president. In fact the president they set shows that Hillary should be the nominee. She is winning in the polls and should get the nomination based on polls not acutal votes or delegates. Let’s just let anothe committiee decide who the nominee is and throw out all the votes if your going to throw out 600000.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

It is sad to see how vitriolic some of Clinton’s supporters have become. They trash anyone and everyone under the sun (including the majority of Democrats who voted for another candidate) because their candidate has lost. That is called democracy (small d) boys and girls. I once supported Senator Clinton and think she deserves a great deal of respect for her run. But let’s be honest, it was not Senator Obama who lost this campaign for her, it is not Howard Dean, it is not anyone but Hillary and Bill, who has made more bumbling errors by going off message than I ever thought possible.

Posted by: peterpiper | June 2, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

LOL Nik

Posted by: al | June 2, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

J:
I’ll put a cork in it when you prove to me that Obama is not going to end the war in Iraq. I have followed the issues and debates closely. Obama will not be able to remove the troops overnight, but he will end this war. By the way, if you’re a Clinton/McCain supporter, shouldn’t you be enlisting right now? Come on…there’s a war going on and they need you.
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For anybody to think this war will end anytime soon meaning 3-5 years is naive. Maybe you are too young to remember Vietnam. My dad served in Vietnam and in the Air Force for 20 yrs. As much as I would like this war to end, it would be suicidal to pull out now.
I currently do my part for the troops at my job. Unfortunately they don’t take 48 year old women. If you are so concerned why don’t you enlist and do something for your country.

Posted by: J | June 2, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Peter Piper, it is random chance that all the blunders of the DNC worked against Hillary this year right? Your right Obama is winning the delegate count. Some where actually given to him by people other then voters that is what is sad. So go ahead and talk about the Clinton supporters as though their candidate is the only one with excuses.
Obama supporters are already crying racism and the GE has not even started yet. We will see what the final talley is.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Um, Texas Outlaw,
Obama took his name off the ballot, as did John Edwards, and others, because they signed an agreement (As Did Hillary) that they would not campaign, or benefit from the elections. Hillary then changed her mind. As my wife say’s, that’s always women’s perogative. A Fair race in that state going by signed agreements would have given delegates to no one. Look at it like the Superbowl. You’re a jets fan. Other’s are viking fans. Houston stadium say’s they’re going to move the superbowl from January to July. The NFL get’s both teams to agree not to play if they do. Come July, the Viking’s decide they’re gonna play even though they signed a pledge that they wouldn’t. Would you be happy? Would it be a fair game with only one team playing?
I don’t think it’s right either that they just gave Obama 4 delegates. But they had to determine what was the best solution for a) Those who voted, b) Those who didn’t vote because it didn’t count, and c) those that voted for the only choice they were given.
And Hillary’s camp doesn’t want to count the Caucus states. So what about the 100′s of thousands in those states. Are you angry with Hillary for not wanting to count them?

Posted by: Rick | June 2, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

You are factually incorrect Texas Outlaw.
The ‘precedence’ set forth by the superdelegates does not conclude that Hillary should be the nominee. Exactly how are you supporting such an argument? When Clinton was the inevitable nominee, she stated Florida and Michigan do not count. Clinton’s position for Michigan proposed at the Rules and By Laws hearing on Saturday were in stark contrast the what was proposed by the Michigan DNC. Oh yeah…she wants a unified democratic party and is looking out for the interest of voters. Where was the counting all the votes rhetoric before she needed Florida and Michigan votes? The sad thing about most voters is that they have a faulty logic and propel it as truth. “She is winning in the polls and should get the nomination based on polls not actual votes or delegates.” WOW, that’s a new one. FACT: According to today’s Gallup poll Obama versus McCain shows Obama at 49% and McCain at 44%. In comparison, Clinton is at 48% and McCain is at 44%. It’s amazing how people have selective memory. Obama won 33 contests while Clinton won 18. If you don’t want to vote for Obama, fine. That’s your voice, your vote. I hope you’re an American that earns $150K+. If not, then you will be like the rest of us that are going live with four more years of econonomic turmoil. Good luck buddy!

Posted by: Nikki | June 2, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

DJAllen,
She did no sabatoge the nomination. If Obama looses the general it will be the democrats as a whole that failed.
How anyone can say what you do I don’t know. This will end up with less then 1% of the delegate vote and less then 1%of the popular vote. She played this out til the end. If you think she gave the republicans amunition your wrong, they have a warehouse full and ready to fire away. People act like the Republicans don’t know how to go after a candidate without Hillary’s help. You think they did not notice that she is winning the blue collar voters in swing states? She went easy on him when it came to race, relegion, and experience. Over the next few months you’ll see what I am talking about.
She had every right to stay in and fight til the end. Who knows the Resko trial is wrapping up this week. There may be more ammo for the good ole party next week.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Jefferson Davis – With all that education (wow, I am so impressed), you still sound like an ignorant, white supremacist

Posted by: Indycvs | June 2, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

” Um, Texas Outlaw,
Obama took his name off the ballot, as did John Edwards, and others, because they signed an agreement (As Did Hillary) that they would not campaign, or benefit from the elections. Hillary then changed her mind. ….”
Um, no, Rick.
I actually listened to the ENTIRE rules committee meeting on CSPAN radio Saturday (yes, I have a life…the radio played while I did all my house chores). Everyone from the DNC and the Rules Committee made it clear that no one was required, requested, or expected to take his/her name of the Michigan Ballot. That had nothing to do with the agreements to not campaign in Michigan (which NONE of the candidates did). In fact, the Michigan DNC — which includes both Obama and Clinton supporters, and key “uncommitteds” such as Senator Levin, who spoke at the meeting), stongly encouraged people to get out and vote, even if they felt they needed to vote for Uncommitted rather than any of the 4 names still ON the ballot. The conventional wisdom was that those who took their names OFF the ballot did so because they didn’t want their likely low vote totals, even in just a “beauty contest”, to make the rest of the populace aware that they didn’t have a chance in Michigan.

Posted by: I suffered for HOURS to learn this :) | June 2, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Nikki, since when is asking for them to count all the votes retorhic.
MI held an election. There was no problem with the voting in that election. The results of the election are accurate vote counts for voters that chose to participate. This committee chose to ignore what the voters voted for and divy up the delegate based on exit polls. If they can do that for MI, why don’t they look at other polls when selecting the nominee. Everyone wants to act like someon made Obama take his name of the ballot and he did it himself. Was there screwed up yes, but there was nothing wrong with the voting process. Obama even suggested voters vote uncommitted, to participate in an election he chose not to participate in.
Then they turn around and give all the uncommitted to him. That is what I am talking about. Taking votes out of one column and putting them in antoher to try and match up exit polls. If all of the uncommitted delegates where for Obama then they should make the uncommited delegates vote for Obama. Now if they truly for Obama he would get represented by the delegates.
So your saying that the 600000 people that voted in MI don’t matter. Votes are what matter, they are the basis of democracy, and when you start giving them away based on polls you have just laid a serious blow to democracy.
So we should disinfrachise the ones that voted to satisfy the ones that didn’t.
Your analogy about the ball game does not make since. Obama took his name off the ballot by choice. He did not want to hear the voice of MI. Let’s get real. It was a political favor to Iowa.
So Obama gets to play games with the political process.
Heres one for you. Try to win a million dollar sweepstakes without entering the contest and see how far that gets you.

Posted by: texas outlaw | June 2, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Did anybody ever really believe Bill Clinton wanted his wife to duplicate the most significant achievement of his life? People please! Somebody with Bill’s brain doesn’t go dumb over night. Those supposed gaffes during the campaign? Go back and ask any political analsyst what killed Hill’s campaign besides how inept they all were?…It was clearly Bill’s offending all those black folks in South Carolina. Black folks who had been supporters of his for nearly three decades. You don’t dump that kind of support by mistake folks! Read the Vanity Fair piece on Bill and you will know why he did not want his private business the lead news every night for the next six months. Karl Rove’s intel was ready and salivating for the Clintons to become the nominee. Bill is sighing a huge sigh of relief and Hillary will surely have some self-esteem problems. but the nation is on course to return sanity and decency!

Posted by: anghiari | June 2, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Now that HRC has tried for the only thing she thought she might need Bill’s help on, I hope her FIRST move when it’s officially (by her standards) over, is to do what she should have done 10 years ago and finally DIVORCE the schmuck. That should be on her list way above whether she will campaign for Obama, accept a VP invitation, or anything else.

Posted by: you go girl | June 2, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

anghiari
You’re another example of home schooling at its best. Ever heard of logic?

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Never, little boy!

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Tracey
we arent gonna participate with 2000 delegates unless Obama gives concessions… minorities dont own the country…. never have never will!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Obama 08
yea Obama is just the only african american that has come along that can be coherent as a presidential candidate so the DNC latched on to him… Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton etc… are no good because you cant understand them!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Obama is never going to get my vote!
America first, party second.

Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

this jew, who lost cousins in that holocaust, will never vote for a man associated with farrakhan and wright.
JEWS DEMOCRATS FOR MC CAIN
………..
Frankie yo are an idiot. McCain sought the endorsement of Rev Hagee. Do you KNOW what Hagee has said about Jews?
You are an i.di.ot.

Posted by: Gemma | June 2, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

T
these idiots really dont beleive that the democrats wont go in lockstep with them… I guess amateurs make all kinds of mistakes!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Yesssss!
President Obama has a nice ring to it.
It is a forgone conclusion. Accept it people and start working for a better tomorrow.

Posted by: Dave | June 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

GOOD RIDDANCE..THE MOST CYNICAL DISHONEST TWISTED POLITICOS ON THE PLANET…HYPOCRITES AND NASTY PIECES OF WORK…LET SOMEONE PUT A STAKE THRU BOTH THEIR ROTTEN HEARTS SO THEY DON’T HAUNT THIS PLANET AGAIN AS POLITICAL FIGURES….AT LEAST BUSH HAS AN EXCUSE…HE IS A MORON AND A SUBHUMAN…BUT THESE 2 MOTHERFLOWERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DEMOCRATS AND PROGRESSIVE AND FRIENDS OF MINORITIES ETC

Posted by: alex | June 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Dave
there has never been a reality of it and never will be any President Obama… there will be no concession tomorrow night and you will suffere the consequences for even supporting such a candidate … there will be repercussions and you will face them!

Posted by: dem38 | June 2, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Dave — there you guys go again. Injecting racism into your logic. Too bad you can’t think of something positive to say about your candidate instead.

Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Now Bill can go back to doing what he does best; chasing poontang and avoiding that horrible wife of his.

Posted by: Juno | June 2, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Uh…Texas Outlaw…you’re replying to too many people in your rants. I made no such anology about a ball game. Also, none of my posts mentioned Obama taking his name off the Michigan ballot. As an informed voter, I understand that Obama never placed his name on the Michigan ballot, the democratic party of Michigan did. He removed his name from the ballot when it was confirmed that the votes would not count. No one from the Obama campaign has argued that he was forced to remove his name. So keep your arguments within scope. Simply put, in the beginning, all candidates said both Florida and Michigan do not count; they’re beauty contests. When Clinton realized she needed those states, suddenly all votes should count. I live in Florida and I chose to participate. I wrote letters in September of 2007 in opposition to this matter to my democratic leaders. Given my actions and strong opposition prior to the primary season, I can honestly say that I’m not discounting democracy at all. With my letters, emails and outburst going unheard, I settled with the fact that Florida and Michigan will not count. The point of my argument is that Clinton said these two states don’t count and when she realized that she needed those votes, she has emerged as a candidate with the rhetoric of count all votes. Why did Clinton agree that Michigan and Florida do not count during the time period that she ASSUMED that she would be the nominee? Doesn’t her sudden fight for all votes to be counted come across as disingenuous? So you say count all votes, huh? What do you say to the Floridians that did not vote in the primary. Florida has 4 million registered democrats, only 1.7 million showed up to vote. I’m waiting…
To Dem 38:
WOW, I’m impressed!

Posted by: Nikki | June 2, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

If we are lucky, Bill and Hillary will leave politics forever.
My fear is that Obama will invite Hillary to be his running mate. I really hope that he understands that she will do ANYTHING to be President.
It will be a truly tragic state of affairs if protecting the President from his Vice President becomes the main function of the Secret Service.

Posted by: Ron | June 2, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Wow, most of the comments on here have thoroughly convinced me how I’d like to be voting this year…..
NOCONFIDENCE ’08 ALL THE WAY!!!
/me watches america eat itself alive……

Posted by: Eric | June 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

I’ve been saying it for MONTHS: ALL BLIND, MAN-HATING, DESPERATELY UNEDUCATED/DELUSIONAL HILLARY CLINTON DIEHARDS PLEASE LEAVE THE DNC. LET’S SEE HOW MANY VOTES YOUR BACKWOODS, SAME-SEX, BLUE-COLLAR, ALL WHITE CONSTIUENCY CAN DRUM UP ONCE NO ONE IS LISTENING.
GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: KenBenobi | June 2, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Please listen to me everyone. If you are a Hillary supporter that feels had by the DNC and Howard Dean, I sympathize for you. Just know that an Obama supporter feels bad that the effort, passion, and desire you put into seeing your candidates success didn’t work out the way it was planned. I just want you know that the new style of politics doesn’t leave anyone out. You are still our strong American women and you will have your day,too. But, please,show America what makes your point about America needing a woman to fix the country’s problems, by taking the initiative to begin the healing process and supporting the Dem nominee,please. To Obama supporters, I have to say I’ve grown more and more disappointed by the way people are giving Hillary a hard time. Whenever we choose to attack Hillary, we attack her supporters. Obama’s campaign and his supporters are much better than that, I believe. Obama’s message of honesty and respect amongst one another should be reflected in the actions of his supporters. In other words, show your love. Make the Clinton supporters feel welcome and invited because, actually, whether they like it or not, they are apart of the family. So let’s start treating them like it, for our soldier’s sake.

Posted by: Augustus,Jefries | June 2, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

I don’t get what you Hillary Nutts dont get, it’s over! By the way I’m not talking about the Hillary folk that are sane and know where their loylities are. Understand Even if Hillary tries to help McCnutt win in 2008, and she runs for president in 2012 she will never get the majority of black votes ever! Even though black men and women are just a small part of the Democrats base, we are one of the most loyal voting blocks in history. The thing that saddened me as a African American is that most of us including myself needed the Green light from white America in order for us to open our own eyes and vote for a serious Black Candidate for President not because he was black but because he was a great candidate. It seems even in 2008 some of us still have not broken the shackles in our own minds. I do thank my white brothers and sisters for sending the message loud and clear that we as Africian Americans are being seen as capable and equals, I think that we have been fighting the good fight for equal rights so long that we have lost sight that we have picked up a quite a few friends of all colors, genders and backgrounds. I myself hope Sen. Obama picks a Women as his VP! NOT CLINTON AND NO WOMAN SHOULD JUST SETTLE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN, THEIR ARE PLENTY OF QULIFIED WOMEN IN AMERICA THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PRESIDENT OR A VP. I think we all know what this election was about I hope! In my opinion this has been a battle to break through the hearts and minds of Americans that just haven’t caught up yet with the times and that glass ceiling that we all know is their but don’t want to talk about because of the fear of getting labled a whinner, lazy or just trying to take advantage of your Race or Gender for self gain. We all know that life is not perfect and yes their are some dishonest people and yes their are gonna be people that use these issues unfortunatly to get ahead or as wedge issues, as we have seen clearly with these primary elections but I think the message has been sent loud and clear Americans, America! has and is moving forward and we are a better Country for it. It’s now time for us as African Americans to also continue are part to break the old sterotypes about others and ourselves for that matter, that we are one America no matter your Race or Gender and we should all celabrate and repect eachothers differences and the celebrate and respect the things we have in common. Obama has proven that if you have the will and the drive even in the face of people out their in the world that dont want to move into the future, that he can still dust himself off and get right back up and fight for himself, his family, you and I and a better America, so we have no more excusses… It is Obvious that Hillary will not only lose black votes, she will lose White, Hispanics, Men, Women old, young, rich and poor. We as black folk know that we are a very forgiving people but if Hillary and Bill dont apologive for all of this white Blue-Collar Race and Gender baiting mess We might not forgive and will not ever forget. Hillary and Bill just to make it clear! the party will never forgive you for turning your back on the Democratic Party. If you were smart you would quit will your ahead because your politicle lives will be over if you do not stop this maddness…….. Make the right choice Bill and Hillary or pay the price and join the unemployment line if you are responsable for getting John McCain elected.

Posted by: ORLANDO FROM FREMONT OHIO | June 2, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

You know I read these messages and I can’t believe the hatred in this country for your fellow Americans. That is exactly why no one will ever make this country what it use to be. This country will never again be the leader in this world. If we find a way to stop all the difference between us and start to really care about each other, then we will be a happier country and a prosperous nation. I don’t have alot of faith in my fellow Americans right now, sorry. God Bless everyone.

Posted by: jac | June 2, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

These blog comment threads are such a huge waste of time. Debating politics on the internet is a waste of time. Even the most honest among you are still spreading little white lies in hopes of making your team win.

Posted by: Waste of time | June 2, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

For all you IDIOTS, yes I said IDIOTS who are going to vote for McCain because HILLARY COULDN’T STEAL the election away from OBAMA, I say this to you. After you vote for MCCain remember from that point on the blood is on your hands. Not putting a stop to the WARS, and bringing out TROOPS home, is not on MCCAINS things to do list. and you can thank yourselves for that. When someone in your family/friends (GETS KILLED)looses anyone due to this incredibility stupid WARS..pat yourselves on the back for your are one of the many IDIOTS who voted for there DEATHS.

Posted by: Mary | June 2, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

There are a lot of people rightly upset about the FL and MI primaries.
Unfortunately the anger has been misdirected to the DNC, apparently because their candidate is not winning.
MI Democratic Party insiders decided to disobey the party’s rules in some selfish attempt to give their state more clout in the presidential selection process. Its incredible that they seem to feel no sense of responsibility for the mess they created.
And in FL, it was the Republican-controlled FL legislature who decided, knowing full well the Democratic party rules, to disenfranchise FL Democratic voters. Hopefully FL voters will punish those who voted to disobey party rules at the polls.

Posted by: Mike | June 2, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

I guess that means he’s not campaigning for Obama when he gets the candidacy? What happened to full support of the Democratic nominee regardless of who it is?

Posted by: PeterC | June 2, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Anyone else notice the picture of Bill Clinton on Drudge today? Bill looks like he’s the 90 year old on his last legs, while Senator Byrd, who’s 90, looks like a young man of around 60, Bill’s age.

Posted by: Dayahka | June 2, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Beautiful. I used to look back on the Clinton era as great… I thought the impeachment was misplaced and a mistreatment of a great man. Hillary & her supporters campaign tactics have tarnished my view of the Clintons.
Pleas step aside gracefully Hillary. It’s not over if you do. You’re without a doubt next in line.

Posted by: Chris | June 2, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

As I read the comments posted on this page , I am becoming increasingly disappointed in the people calling themselves Democrats. I am almost ashamed to say that I too, am a Democrat. For the last 8 years, george w. and the rest of the Bush Crime Family have hi-jacked and virtually destroyed this great country. Democrats have been praying for his reign to come to an end. We were blessed with 2 great candidates running for our nomination. Somehow in some way, we are now at each other’s throats. I am an Obama supporter but I am frankly appalled and disappointed at the vitriol being directed at Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton. Bill was a great president not withstanding all the silly sexual scandals. We should not forget that. Hillary would have been a good president. Where is the common sense. I see people here saying they won’t support Obama or will vote for McClain. Are you people crazy? How quickly we forget the last 8 years. Katrina, Spy without warrants, illegal war, no bid contracts, corporate malfeasance and on and on. You want more of that? I understand the disappoint of the Clinton supporters,… but vote for McClain?!! That’s just crazy. Obama might be your first choice but you cannot tell me that he is not better than the alternative.

Posted by: Vincent Douglas | June 2, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Lou – and those individuals that want to divide everything and everyone.
Guess what you tools – you won’t win. Your old dinosaur ways are done with. We will not slip back onto the sidelines.
Vote for whomever you want to, if you think they are good for you and your children and our country.
However – if you are lying and you know it… YOU WILL BURN!!!

Posted by: TheUnbeliever | June 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

texas outlaw:

“She did no sabatoge the nomination.”

Maybe not quite yet, but she appears to be working at it. First she attacks the frontrunner of her party by saying the Republican candidate was more qualified than he is. Then she tells people that he can’t possibly win the “white working class voter” because he is black. She wants to cling to some specious argument that she is winning the popular vote — a figure she reaches by NOT counting several states that Obama won in. She wants to reserve her “right” to appeal the Florida and Michigan delegate decision to the credentials committee on the Convention floor. The problem with that argument is that she doesn’t have any standing if both states are fine with the decision last Saturday.
Yes, 17 million people voted for her. Another 17 million voted for Obama. But that and four bucks will buy you coffee at Starbucks. We don’t pick our nominees by the popular vote.
Hillary knows she cannot win the nomination, even on the floor of the convention. She’s known that since March. Hell, anyone who knows statistical math has known it since February.

“If you think she gave the republicans amunition your wrong, they have a warehouse full and ready to fire away.”

Hillary has been running for president since 1998. That “warehouse” is full of ammunition against Hillary, not Obama. Republicans have been preparing for Hillary for years, and when Obama started beating Hillary, they were left holding the bag.

“She had every right to stay in and fight til the end.”

I don’t disagree with that. Of course she had that right, and I wouldn’t take that from her. But where I have a problem is HOW she decided to run against Obama. She wasn’t intent on beating him — she knew she couldn’t do that — she was intent on tearing him down so that he became damaged goods and MAYBE the super delegates would see that he was damaged to the point where he couldn’t go on.
But that didn’t quite work out that way. Now she is making noises about dragging her campaign through the summer. The longer we go without a nominee, the more you just hand the election over to McCain.
If we lose the election in the Fall, it won’t be because Obama is a black man, or that he is “inexperienced” or whatever other tripe that has been trotted out, it will be because Hillary won’t accept defeat gracefully after Tuesday and work towards rallying the party around the winner — Barack Obama.

Posted by: DJ Allyn | June 3, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

WINNING A NOMINATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE CHOOSEN ONE WILL WIN IN THE G.E.HE IS JUST RIGHT NOW WINNING THE PARTY NOMINATION; IF YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT IS ENOUGH FOR YOU ,IT IS OK,BUT DON’T TRY TO STAY LOOSERS ALL YOUR LIFE.THE TIME WILL COME WHEN WE DEMOCRATS WINNERS WILL DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THE LOOSERS WHO DO NOT THINK TWICE BEFORE ACTING.OBAMA IS GOING TO BE THE THIRD LOOSER IN THE RECENT HISTORY OF THIS PARTY.CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FOR ME PLEASE: AFTER 8 YEARS, DO DEMOCRATS KNOW NOW HOW AND WHY THEIR CHOOSEN ONE LOST IN 2000 AND IN 2004? A SERIOUS AND RESPONSIBLE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WILL MAY BE PREVENT US FROM MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN THIS YEAR

Posted by: thierry | June 3, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

LOOSERS DON’T LIKE WINNERS.TED KENNEDY,JOHN KERRY JOHN EDWARD,BILL RICHARDSON…ECT ARE BIG LOOSERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY;WE UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY THEY THROW THEIR SUPPORTS TO SOMEONE THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW MORE ABOUT TO SHOW THEIR STRONG COMMITMENTS TO WORK AGAINST THE CLINTONS,THE WINNERS.THEY ARE JUST JEALOUS PERIOD
TEAM OF LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERS

Posted by: thierry | June 3, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am

What Clinton hinted, is that he will not camapign for Barack Obama. Which means Hillary won’t either. After the Convention picks Obama, Hillary will go home and sulk. Some Democrats, huh? That at least means the end of the corrupt DLC dominnce of the Party. Obama will win without the Hillary fanatics threatening to vote McCain – another indicaion that they’re not Democats at all, having no principles to believe in, no standards to uphold.

Posted by: EmmanuelWinner | June 3, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Gooooood Riddance Clintons. After playing a certain card and losing, not having a good platform then stealing his, that showed how classless they are. I have not been fooled by his policies when he was in office. I am informed, and hope many of you become. This last running by them showed me exactly what they think of African Americans and the poor. His bills passed amounts to 804 not adding his co-authored, hers for 4 years 20. How long was he in office? 6 years. WOW! I know politics is dirty but come on. They tried every trick in the book and is still losing. Only addressing caucasians? What a dumb move. It does come back. Soo GOOD RIDDANCE!

Posted by: sickofgames | June 3, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

I think Hillary should just bow out gracefully and start to support Obama. For all of you FAKE Democrats who say you would rather vote for McCain than vote for Obama, you are CRAZY. Why elect another Bush? McCain will not support the working class people, he believes in Free Enterprise. OBAMA 08!

Posted by: RW | June 3, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

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