Clinton, Obama, and Unity

Unity? No. Not this year.
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The Democratic party MUST be held accountable for the rampant sexism, racism, classism and voter disenfranchisement continually interjected into this 2008 campaign debacle by Barack Obama, his campaign, his nasty supporters and ALL media.
In fact, the DNC is complicit in disenfranchising voters in Michigan, Florida and elsewhere.
To vote for Obama is to condone what has been done.
The Democratic party understands two things, money and votes. WE have the power to with hold BOTH. DO SO. If the Dems foolishly nominate an unqualified and unelectable Obama, vote for McCain. Put your country first and party second.
“No self respecting woman should wish for the success of a party that ignores her sex” Susan B. Anthony

2005 Meet the Press Interview:
TIM RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.

AJ,
I am a woman, from Michigan. And your assertions are really out there.
Clinton lost. Fair and square. In every aspect of the Primary. Get a grip and grow the heck up.
It was Clinton’s race to lose and she lost it. I supported her, but her message was confused and her campaign was messy. I switched when I realized she was not up to the task.
18 million agreed with me.

I think the whiniest people in the world are Bill Clinton and Hillary fans.
All they do is whine whine whine whine.
They complain so much.

Wow, some of you Hillary supporters are just so delusional!! She understands what is at stake in this election. Why don’t you? You are willing to sell this country out because your candidate didn’t win the nomination? Don’t be so spiteful. This country’s future is at stake and you are willing to give it to Bush’s clone for 4 or maybe 8 more years. There won’t be anything left of this country by then. We’ll be bankrupt fighting useless wars, paying for oil, food, and everything else that is going up in price. Smarten up people!!

Obama isn’t “up to the task” of being POTUS. He’s inexperienced and can’t take a decisive stand. The President doesn’t have the luxury of voting “present” or claiming to have pushed the wrong button. Well, actually, he could claim to have pushed the wrong button following the 3 a.m. phone call, but we don’t want to go there!

Sorry Lisa, we only have two choices and McCain is the better man for the job. McCain has a long resume that the voters know; they don’t have to look at ill-spoken comments for clues about him. That’s why “sweetie” stuck to Obama – we know next to nothing about him, but we think he’s condescending and arrogant which “sweetie” confirmed. McCain? It was just a bad joke, nothing more than that.

“Obama is wise to keep him on the benches, where he belongs.”
Obama is in for a surprise there. Bill does whatever Bill wants to do. You know it and so does everyone else.
Bill doesn’t need the Democratic Party. Hillary does. Bill needs Hillary. That is the total extent of Obamalosi’s control over Bill.
This is the election the Democrats need to lose.

AJ, you are wrong. Where were you when Hillary agreed to rules dealing with Fl and Mi. Secondly how did Obama interject race into this election. There are people who are not voting for this man just because he is black. Now you want to cry sexism, what about lie’s the media has put out about Rev. Wright, Ayers, calling Barack a Muslim, attacking all muslims as terrorist. You see now that you are offended oh it hurts, but hey we’ve been dealing with racism our hold life, that people like you try to act like it doesn’t exist. Growup.

well for one thing, when joe biden was accused of making a racist remark about obama,(which it was not) obama ran to a mike and camera, and defended biden.
when bill clinton said what he said in sc people accused bill of being a racist,BILL CLINTON A RACIST!(the statement he made was not racist, jesse jackson, said he took it as a complement, and didn’t think it was racist-)but because it was politically expedient for obama, obama let the bill is a racist remark ride.
it was politcally needful for obama’ camp to get the black support from clinton-the clinton’ had a good and long record for trying to level the playing field for blacks, obama knew he could not get the black support from the clinton’ saying things such as what have the clinton’s done for you, or get the black support from the clintons because of their poor race relations record. so the only thing they could do, is try to make it appear, all the things the clinton and black have done together, is not real. and the clinton’ now are really racist.
it would never have been to the clinton’ advantage to interject race.
but always, as it proved out (obama read the black community good this time) for obama to interject race.

Barack Obama is not even qualified to be VP muchless president. He’s nothing but a huge mistake.

Democratic Party is controlling Houses, but they cannot make any CHANGES. Wake up American.

And vice versa, jmc. Tigers and prides… ;-)
The DNC has many deeper problems to solve than the rift between these men. Obama’s move to the center is too much like a move into an old jelly doughnut right now. For the last two decades, the center in American politics has been evaporating into sticky dust. It has a sweet taste but a bad odor and no nutrition. The goal of both parties is to build a new center and the question is, can they do that in the same old doughnut?
Obama’s campaign has been about baking a new doughtnut not a new center. Because that takes time, this may be the election the Democrats need to lose or they risk a half-baked administration. If his strategy becomes uncertain, the dough just won’t rise.

In continuing to campaign, Hillary Clinton was acting on the wishes of millions who remained as voters and those who wanted a highly competitive race to continue to its conclusion. I believe there was an ABC poll in May where a clear majority, including Obama supporters, expressed their favor in continuing the race. Hillary’s shattering of the glass ceiling for women is the result of her perseverance. To attribute her success as an attack on Obama’s fitness to be commander in chief as Jake states, is a cynical distortion of a historical race.
That Hillary Clinton wants the Obama supporters to pay off her debts reads as not much more than an allegation. The facts are that the help with the debt was offered by the Obama campaign and in turn, accepted.

Obama “donated” $4600 to help eliminate Hillary Clinton’s debt? $4600?! Wow!
I donated $300 to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and I could barely afford to do so. It really disappoints me that even one PENNY of my money will help elect Obama.
Hillary gave up too easily, yielding to the demands of the DNC and Howard Dean. I’d have never donated to Hillary if I’d have known it was a “done deal” all along (which it apparently was).
Dean and his back-room boys wanted a candidate with “genetic Teflon”. We all learned (too late) that ANY criticism of Obama is branded as “racist”, which is exactly what the Star Chamber wanted.

len
You DO realize that Clinton was considered left of center, until he secured the nomination, when he moved more to center.
The “center” is skewed after the religious right and Bush.

There is NO unity between voters and
Obama,and that’s very important…..
I care less about unity between the
two of them. Lets make it clear….
I voted democrat on primaries BUT I WILL
NOT vote for Obama in november…..

Cas, I also now support McCain as the lesser of evils. But McCain cannot win by bashing BHO and Michelle. Let them self-destruct (they will), but throwing insults at them is the wrong way to campaign for McCain.

Did you hear her last night? It didn’t even sound like her.
Did she drink the koolaide or was she taught the Obama style mind conditioning speech style.
Don’t listen to obama speeches, get the text version and read them.
The motivational speeches are the mind conditioning. Just like hypnosis sessions. New reinforcement word is Unity. Just like the stop smoking and lose weight sessions works on the same principles. the ads and commercials with those slogans and catch phrases are the reinforcements.
People thought the Germans were stupid, people thought the Jim Jones followers were stupid. Today people think obama followers are stupid. None were stupid they just didn’t know what was happening to them.
It is working
Is he – yes he is
Can he Yes he can
He is using the same techniques, same style.
It has worked in the Past and Yes it is working Now.

Charade in progress, it’s like bush and bin laden campaigning for clean energy ……
He is deceiving the Clintons that he will take care of the 10 million Hillary debts. And tale next day after suck her services he was misinterpret

Sex,race and religious issues did not prevail in the primaries. Senator Obama successfully identified them as distractions. The best person won. There is a basis to hope this trend will extend to the general election.

prwo>>>>>>You are not in this game she is a party member she can not have the nomination so she backs the party who does.Guess you better brush up on your politics before you open your mouth.Go vote fro McCain who cares/????He is NOT buying her dip>>>>

Rhys – You called this statement a lie and then immediately proved it true: “Anyone who is an actual Hillary supporter now supports Barack Obama.”
You then proved that you were not an “actual Hillary supporter” by saying: “Hillary Clinton was the lesser of THREE evils.”
Then you confirmed the fact that you don’t support ANYONE by saying: “most of us are planning to vote AGAINST someone!”

Let’s face it; we’re in the midst of another election where most of us are planning to vote AGAINST someone, not FOR anyone!
Posted by: Rhys | Jun 27, 2008 10:50:51 AM
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Um….no! Only the lowest of low-info voters chose to vote agaisnt someone.
Those of us with education and intellect chose to vote FOR someone.
But hey, best of luck with Gramps.

Rhys, speak for yourself. The only “evil” still left is sitting in the white house. I think we’re voting for the greatest of three goods, if you will.

I am a Hillary supporter and will remain so. Vote Obama and get the Republicans out of office now. We need to end the war, and get on with the needs of the United States. I think its been neglected long enough. Just look around you at the economy and tell me things aren’t bad. We need change and this will not be done if McCain is elected. I will vote Obama and take my chances, and so will many others. If its a bad choice, its a bad choice. Big deal, look at all of you who voted Bush in a second term. Now that’s what I call a bad choice. His first time around wasn’t so great, and then you vote him in again. Bad Choice!!!

jmc663 Obama would LOVE to have Bill Clinton support him and be out there campaigning for him. Bill Clinton is the biggest draw there is right now, but he is too smart to get involved in the Obama mess. He wants Obama to sink his own ship. Hillary is doing and saying what she has to at this point. She will play the political game but she cannot make us vote for Obama. And there are many who will not ever vote for him because he is a dangerous choice. We are not doing this out of spite but because we are smart enough to know that McCain is, in fact, the lesser of two evils. McCain 2008 Hillary 2012 PUMA

Another Dem for McCain….sure its out of spite. How else would you change you fundamental ideologies so quickly. You were pro choice now your pro life, were against the war now with the war, were against tax cuts for the rich now for it, were for gay marriage now against it??? Not sure how that’s possible over night.

OK.
People have to stop complaining about Hillary Clinton continuing her campaign. She could have won. Maybe not the pledged delegates but she could have won a larger popular vote and the supers could have backed her.
And even if she couldn’t have won, she had the right and an obligation to continue her fight. She represents something and her giving up (or more accurately being pushed out) would have done nothing for Obama. In fact it would have angered enough Clinton supporters to not just sit out the election but create mass havoc at the convention and maybe even further than that.
If the Democratic Party cares about the progress of women then they should stop cribbing about Hillary Clinton continuing her campaign until there was a winner.
Quitting would have been a step backwards and people have to start understanding and respecting that.
So quit harping on Clinton for having carried on her campaign.

Obama will loose the election–Hillary will run in 2012 and win!! McCain will be a 1 term president. Go Hillary–2012!!

b4uvote, you probably predicted Hilary to win the nomination by a landslide…what makes you think your prediction powers are still credible?

I am not changing my ideologies and I am not torn. I am not racist. I have never been a republican. I am now a member of the Pacific Green Party. But I can not just vote on ideologies and false hope. We are voting for the man who will lead our nation.
I do not believe that supporting John McCain is “lunacy” and I have always understood that his policies are in many ways different than mine.
However, I WILL vote for John McCain this November. I WILL vote republican down ticket as well, if any democrats on ticket supported Obama before Oregon voted.
I WILL donate to campaigns against Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, you, and others who have ursurped the democratic party. They, despite what party they belong to, do not support my most fundamental ideal: every vote counts.
I am NOT torn. I can wholeheartedly support McCain because at the very least, I respect him. I respect his service, I respect his standing against his own party and for democratic principles at times, I respect his personal knowledge of the horrors of war, I respect the man.
I do not respect Obama at all. I have seen lie after lie. I have seen him selected by the “leaders” of my former party, not elected. I have seen him claim status his has as yet not been given. I have seen far too much. I WILL NOT vote for a man I cannot respect.
And really, what policies does he stand for; he changes them as the wind blows. Just this week he has switched on FISA and public financing. Before that gun bans, etc. He has denigrated one of the greatest democrats of our time, President Clinton, and now expects his help. NO.
McCain is not Bush. Obama is far worse than Bush, really a dem version of the same. I will suffer no guilt and you have no right to claim my vote or my money. The DNC, RBC, has crossed too many lines.
It is time for Americans to stand up and fight for what is right. What is right is that EVERY vote counts. What is right is honest debate, not racebaiting. What is right has little to do with what has happened in the last eight months.
Actually I pity you. You will learn too late that what is right is what America and Americans stand for.

Senator Clinton has debt to retire. Senator Obama has major donors who have maxed out on all they can donate to him. Senator Clinton has major donors who have maxed out on all they can give to her. They ask their respective donors to donate to the other. In the process Senator Clinton’s debt is taken care of and Senator Obama builds a stronger campaign to win the general election. Obama is not asking smaller donors to do this. This is a win win situation for both sides. There is no down side other than giving up the relinquishing the anger. The result will be that democrats have a much better chance of seeing their important issues enacted. Senator Obama and Senator Clinton have almost exactly the same issue priorities. There is always dark energy in the world. It is up to us whether we choose to channel that kind of energy through our darker emotions or not. We’ll all feel better and add to the joy in the world if we choose peace within ourselves and among ourselves. America can be a beautiful place but only if we do our part to make it so.

b4uvote, DITTO!!!!!

len wrote:
So as an independent, I’m waiting to see which candidate starts talking sound re-engineering of our support systems. It may be geeky but look around and who has been changing the world for real in the last decade: geeks.
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I am married to an Engineer, so I know all about geeks, LOL!
I agree, so much of this country is broken and it will take a decade to fix.
Our roads and bridges are crumbling.
Our planes arent being inspected.
Our food is poisioning us.
Drug companies are in bed with the FDA and drugs arent tested properly.
We are bleeding jobs.
We can’t afford this war. McCain wants more.
I used to like McCain, but he is nothing like the John McCain I used to admire. I don’t know what happened to him.

…Bottom line everyone!!! Vote your concious, remeber we all have to live with our choices… look at these past 7 1/2 year under BUSH/CHENEY, horrible. I refuse to put another man in the white house, even if he says he is not like BUSH, but he affliates with BUSH party is just the same. I will not vote for McCain, even if he were the only candidate standing. Obama reminds us of JFK, young, fresh, intelligent and yes READY!!!! look how well he has managed his campaign!!! He is a quick learner and I know in my heart that he wil do a great job. I already have most people in my community on board the Obama for change boat… and we are getting a whole lot more. Because people are now finally looking pass the color line. Whichshould not even matter anymore, but given the history of our country, it is going to take some HARD work on all our parts to get beyond the color line. I know a lot of people say it is not his color, it is this and it is that… but can anyone name a first time president that had experience, they get vps, and cabinet member with that experience to help them where they are lacking, that is how it works folks. Obama is smart enought to get the right people on board. And YES! WE CAN and YES we WILL!!!

Pumas,
You guys now believe in Murphy mor than Hillary.
and I heard Murphy has been Maccain supporter from 2000.
She is just using your grief to help Maccain.

Attention All Obama Haters!:
Hillary=18 million voters
Obama=19million voters
If you help McCain to win……NO CLINTON will ever hold office again! Obama supporters won’t forget!

Keeping Bill at arms length allows Obama to disassociate himself from anything stupid Bill does in advance.
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Gee, that worked out really well for Al Gore didn’t it.

McCain may not be the best choice, but at any rate he does believe in America, the pledge and salutes the flag. How can we as Americans vote for someone who doesn’t believe or support our troops or our flag.

drae…..good post.

drae,
I could not have stated it more clearly.
I really wish the Clintons would start a third party. Their is no way in Hades I will vote for Obama. As political affiliations are about identity, it is understandable that Hillary supporters would never want to be affiliated with, nor do they identify with, the types that follow Obama.

The moderate Democrat no longer have a party. Obama and his supporters are not Democrats. They are socialists, Marxists, racists, and communists. They do not believe in a citizens right to vote and have that vote count. They believe that associating with criminals, religious fanactics, terrorists and drug users is the right path. They believe in lies and deceptions. Obama uses people and then throws them away and he will do the same to the Clintons. He has no in tergity or judgment. All he care about is his power to control and the big money/criminal machine behind him.
Senator McCain will be the next President.

Obama and his surrogates are simply disgusting, amoral people, deserving of no respect. He is thick skinned about his naked desires for power but so thin skinned about any criticisms levied at him or his wife.
Nobama.
Go Hillary.
Go PUMAs!
Michigan PUMA

jjsmith6575 – McCain spent quite a bit of money he didn’t have as well. In fact, he opted into the public financing system in order to secure a loan, and then “opted” right back out again when more money started coming in. Lawsuits are being filed on that one.

fact of the matter is that Senator Clinton is the only candidate who is capable of being the best President that our children, our troops and our country desperately needs right now…..WRITE-IN CLINTON!

It would be real interesting to know, just so we can easily recognize which of our neighbors are likely to vote for this man.
Posted by: J Robinson | Jun 27, 2008 11:56:36 AM
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They are easy to spot. They have the nice house with a good job and new car.

hillary, was in this race for the american people. If you look past all of the yin in your eyes, and think about her plans and policies, you would have seen that.
obama has always been about being the first black president. and what that would have stood for.
the black people and the whites that supported him, his being the first black president was all that they really cared about.
i have a cousin who support him and she said, “well he can’t do any worst than the rest of them have”
and i say “yes he can, and he will keep a qualified african american from being president, because, if he messes up. forget it”

JS……he did not run on the fact that he was Black. Hillary definately ran on the fact that she was a woman.

Chris i was responding to another comment that suggested that Barack only ran on the fact that he was Black….which he did not. Hillary brought up the fact that she was woman more times than i can count and claimed the was sexism due to the fact that she was a woman. She played the sex card.

@jmc: “I agree, so much of this country is broken and it will take a decade to fix.”
And that is the beginning of a new center, jmc. Where we build on that, we can push BOTH candidates toward a better solution. The debate can start being about our needs instead of who is zoomin’ who today. Call me quixotic but windmills sometimes are dragons particularly if they breathe electricity.
No winner will be able to pull us out of Iraq fast and in one form or another, the war on terrorism will go on. We may as well quit beating them up for Bush’s mistakes. Everyone recognizes the need for a different strategy.
I’m not a McCain supporter or an Obama supporter. I’m trying to pick among weak candidates and figure out how to strengthen the office when one wins by establishing among the issues which one has a better plan.
American politics have been too personality obsessed for too long. If we want to solve our problems, we must hold both party’s feet to the fire of change, not in terms of hollow rhetoric, but real clear solutions. To do that, we, the voters, need clarity.
What we are getting from the media is mud. That means we have to use every medium we CAN use to talk to each other directly about what we want for this country. Then a center will form and it will be stable.
And then the President can do his or her job knowing what their bosses want. No one will walk into Washington and get rid of special interests until we have our own firm understanding of what makes our interest special.

Chris what policies of hers did you like so much. And how are they better than Obama’s?

marie….apples and oranges….rejecting the fact that obama did not ONLY run on his race by claiming Hillary SOMETIMES mentioned her gender is poor logic and reasoning

I used to think that Senator Clinton would be the democratic candidate that would be easier to beat. Now I think Senator Obama will be far easier to beat. His most recent flip-flop on gun control is the latest. People are finally seeing him for what he is – shallow, calculating, opportunistic, and worst of all – naive. And now the democrats have to put the best face on it. Good luck with that.

Chris…all i did was ask you why you thought she would such a great President. What polices of hers did you like? Do you even know any her policies?

puma, alee21,
By the way, do you know that Hillary is now Obama’s surrogate?
Please be updated.

Chris….way to google :)

this is all from memory from reading about the candidates, from hearing them speak and from considering the solutions they have proposed to help America through these trying times…..if you are unwilling to accept my apparently superior conclusions and reasoning, then don’t ask for it

to DISAMBIGUATE: Bill Clinton was great PRESIDENT. I wish we could live in his times. It was a great life. Gas was not going up to $7 per gallon in his time. He left the office with the budget in the BLACK which Bush swiftly spent and added some 500 billions in debt. You don’t know what you are talking about. And who bought him? He EARNED WHAT HE HAS and more power to him! The family home that was bought AFTER his presidency and was not paid by REZKO sweetheart deals.

I have seen that many people are on the wrong side in this political race 2008¨.Obama has all it takes to be the best president in america history,i don´t actually blame some people for saying he´s inexperience.maybe that is what they are given to say by his opponent.obama go on americans all over the world love and like to see you in the white soon.cheers

it’s all irrelevant anyway: thanks to his own errors, hypocrisy and poor judgment (incl. joining and abandoning the same church for political fortune), and the racist, sexist, arrogant, ignorant and naive behavior of his supporters and friends and comrades, it is guaranteed that obama will lose in November…..after all, if a Vietnam veteran with a good reputation in washington can’t beat a draft-dodging, incompetent, ignorant and easily the worst president in American history, can we truly believe that this year’s version of the swift boats will be any less successful against obama?

later all…i’m off to support my family while you uselessly support a good speaker but a shallow actor

Hillary Clinton just “sold” herself to Obama for money!! She has just now thrown 18 million voters under the bus..for money!! How rude! She would have accomplished more politically if she would have taken her losses and told the DNC and Obama that she would be true to her word….and HER WORD WAS THAT OBAMA WAS NOT QUALIFIED!!! I would have more respect for her had she done that!! I will not vote for Obama even if she was on the ticket…and I will never vote for a Democrat again…McCain is not my choice, but he is a lot better than Obama! Hillary will be voting for Obama..a man she described as inexperienced and this is who she wants us to vote for….hypocritical, politics as usual!
America is going down the drain and they are playing the same game…and now, Congress is off for their summer vacations, paid for by you and me and the gas prices will just continue to grow!! They are OUR EMPLOYEES…fire them all in the next election!!

The winner historically always helps the loser with the campaign debt. It has nothing to do with anyone respecting anyone or not. They always do it this way. Why shouldn’t she take the money? Him and the Democratic party abused her the entire campaign and it is the very least they should do for her! I’m glad she took it. But, almost wish she hadn’t and told them to go fly a kite because I can’t stand them that much. I hope that Bill Clinton NEVER helps Obama. Now Obama is trying to get all of them to help him. I guess he has figured out that the in the general election he won’t be able to jam himself down everyone’s throat like he did int he primary. Good luck with all of that Mr. Obama! You and Dems were able to force yourself onthe Democratic party but you won’t be able to that in the general election and I am just love it! I hope your campaign crashes and burns in November and that John McCain gets elected President. You’re a horrible person for the way you treated Hillary and in essence treated all women in America. And, now you conveniently have a two token women stand behind you to show you support women. You are a joke! Good riddance!

Many Hillary democrats simply don’t think Obama is qualified. This is our biggest problem. Most of us don’t like McCain, but the trouble is Obama is SO GREEN, and the problems are SO VAST, many of us simply don’t think he’s ready. Some of us will take our chances with him and stay in the party, others will bank on McCain, and a few will sit it out. But one thing is for certain. Phony photo ops aren’t going to magically pull Hillary’s voters, male or female, along. Obama has got to start talking to us, start addressing our concerns, because despite what the media says and what the Obama camp thinks, we didn’t vote for Hillary because she is a woman, we voted for her because we thought she was a better choice. Obama and his campaign had better get that through their thick skulls.

you folks, need to stop watching cnn, msnbc,fox and any other msm outlet.
we need a dem in the white house.
if it is meant to be obama he will be,
the obama supporters, the black community, the msm have all been horrible to the clinton-what’s new.
it has not and never will stop the clinton’ from doing good work.
i don’t need the obama people to SAY obama needs sen. clinton and bill I KNOW they do.
THEY KNOW THEY DO, (even if they don’t say it)
Sen.Clinton is as smart as they get, and a lot of people quietly envy her
instead of saying “you know I am going to try and be as good at what I do as she is”
once again please, please everyone.
get you political news from cspan
leave the biased, hateful msm alone.
watching her o cspan now, just a PRO.
put a dem in the white house 08

Many Hillary democrats simply don’t think Obama is qualified. This is our biggest problem. Most of us don’t like McCain, but the trouble is Obama is SO GREEN, and the problems are SO VAST, many of us simply don’t think he’s ready. Some of us will take our chances with him and stay in the party, others will bank on McCain, and a few will sit it out. But one thing is for certain. Phony photo ops aren’t going to magically pull Hillary’s voters, male or female, along. Obama has got to start talking to us, start addressing our concerns, because despite what the media says and what the Obama camp thinks, we didn’t vote for Hillary because she is a woman, we voted for her because we thought she was a better choice. Obama and his campaign had better get that through their thick skulls.

In case some of you have forgotten how this works: It’s the person that wins decision as to who goes on HIS/HER ticket. The more you try to force Hillary on the ticket the more unlikely she will be. She will be on the ticket only if Obama wants it–in of story.
Secondly, for those of you that don’t think that Obama is qualified, McCain may have been 20 years ago but face it he’s too old to be the president. We don’t want people his age to drive a car let alone run the powerful country in the world.
Thirdly, no one, and I mean no one can do any worse than the current Administration has. I’ll just be glad when November gets here so I don’t have to see Bush’s face anymore.

Hey Voter100, so you are saying that you would be in favor of suppressing the driving rights of those over 70 yrs old? Is this the kind of bigotry we have to look forward from the obama camp? Sexist, racist, elitist, and now suppressing the rights of older americans. To be honest, I am more scared of these 20 somethings driving around putting on makeup and talking on the cell phone more so than any elderly person. Grow up kid! I’m sure McCain has more sense than obama and hillary put together. Stop the obama camp bigotry!!!!!

Most of the supposed Hillary supporters posting to these boards are actually Republicans trying to stir up trouble. Don’t pay any attention to them.

I’m getting really fed up with being told that as a former Hillary Clinton voter, I must automatically swing my vote to Obama now that this is out of the running. I’ve never been a party voter — been independent all my life, and proudly so — so why exactly is Obama my “only choice”? I like his positions on some things and McCain’s positions on other things. Neither one is a perfect fit for what I want. And I find McCain much more genuine, believable, and sincere than Obama. Obama’s behavior on campaign finance reform, FISA legislation, and gun control has convinced me that even if he can actually do the job of President (which I have always doubted), there is no guarantee he will keep any of the promises he has made to his constituents.
So what makes him superior to John McCain? We’ve spend almost eight years now with our government in the grip of a “charismatic” politican without a clue how to do his job, and apparently with no inclination to learn. With the help of a cooperative Republican Congress, he’s made a total hash of our country. Now people want to put another “charismatic” politician without a clue in the White House again, again with a cooperative Party-dominated Congress??
A wild and uncontrolled swing to the left will not benefit America any more than neo-con extremism has done.
In any case, I’m *NOT* Hillary Clinton’s mind-slave. My reasons for supporting her over Obama are long-standing and rational, and they don’t go away just because she is not the nominee. Each candidate needs to prove their merit on their own to win my vote, and Obama is failing utterly in that regard.

OK- I’m totally sick and tired of the shrill and jaded Hillaryites whining and braying about the sexism that did NOT sink her campaign. Let them go to McCain so they can cut off their noses to spite their uber-dramatic, grief-distorted faces. These welps need to learn that the way to fight any entrenched -ism, including racism, is to aim and fly above it, not give in to it with annoying whining. They should watch both Hillary and Obama for how this is done successfully. I guarantee you that none of these petty whiners can ever succeed in life by yapping and complaining. Good riddance – take your yapping to McSame – Obama doesn’t need your devo, spoil-sport behavior in order to win.

To VOTER100: I’m eightyfour and my brain works like a computer. I speak and translate seven languages and I am not brain dead. I can sell people like you 100 times over and DON’T ASK ME WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO WHEN I WAS S E V E N T Y!!! McCain is YOUNG.What has age to do do with his capabilities anyway. I have lived long enough to see primaries and elections before JFK. Obama is a DISGUSTING liar and he IS NOT FIT to be any kind of a political figure, let alone being president.

Bill could give three speeches and pay it off right now.

PT…try all the people that Obama has thrown off his bus…then try all of Obama’s flip flop continuing even today!!!!

This 2005 interview with Tim Russert on Meet the Press make it very clear.
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RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
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As I said if you are satisfied with the way bush has handled the war and the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think this country can do better then vote for Obama.

It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 5% then vote for Obama.

Veromo and PT …..McCain is where our votes are going…Obama will destroy this country with his political agenda…raise taxes, extreme affirmative action, social security increases, raise capital gains taxes,pay off someone else’s mortgage, etc, etc,…liberal, liberal and not to my benefit…AND THE WAR WILL CONTINUE NO MATTER WHO WILL BE POTUS AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT….MCCAIN 08

google
the associations of barack obama

yes, that is what was said about bush, also.
he has a lot of good advisors around him to tell and help him.
see what we have got.

it may not be that bill will forget who HE is campaigning for as much as after listening to bill, THE PEOPLE will forget and start cheering for bill again.

I’m flabbergasted. After all the ugly things that both Hilliary’s and Obama’s camp said to each other and about each other and now they have crawled into bed together?

It is amazing we still have so many un-informed people in this country. After what the country has been through, I can not understand any decent, educated american would throw his or her vote away by voting for John McCain. Here we are with one of the most qualified canditate that this country has ever seen. A candidate capable of making history. A candidate that can unite not only the country but also has the ability to repair the damages that have done on our reputation around the world. Obama is the only candidate that can do that. Not McCain or Hillary. The primary is over people. It is time that we face reality and do whatever we can to elect Obama. He is real, sincere and is exactly what the country needs now.
Vote for Obama in november and you will be glad that you do. In case your forgot: More than 4000 of our young men and women have been unnecessary killed in Iraq. We have a huge mortgage crisis. Gas prices keep going up and up. We no longer a leader in human rights as a result of what happenned in Guantanamo and Abu Graid(Sorry for the spelling). The value of our dollar keeps declining. The deficit is enormous. We had surpplus last time a democrat was in the white house. We just can not afford an another term of republicans in the white house. It is time for no more blue and red states. It is time for this country to be united and resolve energy and health care problems. It is time for a change. Wake up America….

The thought of her in office is enough to gag.

Clinton supporters are so angry! Why?
In these economic and military times do we not need a leader that can balance a budget and make correct decisions?
Hillary Clinton was a frontrunner with all the advantages that comes with having an ex-President as a spouse. Still, she ran a campaign that ended up 20 million dollars+ in debt, no plausible plan after Super Tuesday, no rebuttal for supporting the war, and no defense for continuing a campaign well after it was clear she would not prevail.
What in those actions would lead any sane, rational person to believe that Senator Clinton could lead America in its faultering times?
We need a change….and that change will be Obama. God bless America and Obama’s leadership!