Clinton Presidential Bid Doomed By Bill, Campaign Infighting
ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: In the August issue of Vanity Fair, Gail Sheehy, author of the biographical book, "Hillary’s Choice," chronicles the demise of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, revealing some new tidbits about the demise of her historic bid.
Sheehy exposes more of the infighting within her campaign including the battles between former campaign adviser Harold Ickes and former chief strategist Mark Penn. She includes this quote from Ickes, "Penn was the chief strategist. Following our loss, he now disclaims responsibility for anything and everything that went wrong and acts as if he were barely involved, which is especially galling from someone who made [nearly] $20 million from the campaign.”
Sheehy also focuses on Bill Clinton, reporting that the former President wanted his own office in the campaign headquarters and that a top fundraiser described him as out of control.
Monetary issues plagued Clinton’s campaign and it is revealed that “there wasn’t a budget request denied in Iowa,” and that the early voting state cost the campaign $25 million dollars.
The campaign arguably never was able to recover from that financial blow and, as reported in the article, Clinton “resisted focusing on money” even through she was briefed about it.
“We have a cash flow problem,” Ickes reportedly told Clinton, per Sheehy.
Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, who has been blamed for the loss in Iowa by overspending, was fired and, as Sheehy reports, asked that Mark Penn be fired too. That did not happen, and the infighting continued between Penn, Ickes and others.
Sheehy reports that according to Ickes, it didn’t sink in for Clinton that it was over until 12 hours after Obama clinched the nomination. Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-NY., and other members of Congress, urged Clinton to concede, and 24 hours later it was clear to Clinton that she had to step down.
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Good, I am glad Hillary is finally explaining what happened in her camp, now maybe her followers will stop the craziness of blaming everyone in the world but HIllary and her camp for her lose.
Posted by: becky | June 30, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
you all say obama disrespected the cilntons and threw them under the bus but i dont see it why because he ran a better campaign he won fair and square he played the game of the primaries just like any other democrat running in the past so by doing all this he disrespected hillary please explain how im a little confused!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
hey REDNECK can you explain how barack disrespected hillary please no one else will im a little confused
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
hey redneck; if you voted for hillary why would you vote for mccain a complete opposite to her isint that a little disrespectful to her thats like comparing her to him you ought to be ashamed hillary supporter
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
If they screwed up the campaign this bad just imagine what they would have done to our government. Than God they won’t have the chance.
Posted by: jeremy | June 30, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The DNC playing god and political fixers where Hillarys only major problem. They step in way early and kept demanding the campaign end. They went to the meida, they made statements. Influcencing the media and the voters. Obama helping in the process
Plus Obama smear campaign, he was evil and mean the entire campaign. He was the lowest eviliest Candidate the presidential race has ever seen.
The majority of voters wanted Hillary and still do.
Most didn’t want Obama then and do not now.
I hope his Black Unity vote gets him by, Because that is all he can depend on.
There are people who voted for obama who would of liked to take their vote back.
Posted by: seah | June 30, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
seah;; how did obama smear hillary i only heard him speak good things about her and whats up with the black unity thing well i am WHITE my whole family is white my husband is republican and im independent and were all voting for obama including my republican husband!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
but REDNECK you did not answer my question if you voted for hillary why would you vote mccain hillary DESPISES the man so like i said thats like comparing her to him if i cant have hillary john mccain is the next best thing to hillary right i dont think hillary would appreciate being compared to mccain show some respect to her
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
oh and another thing RED NECK his middle name is hussein his first name is barack is that why you dont like him because of his name or his color which is it its terrible not to like someone because of their color or their name he didnt pick his name did you pick yours if he changed it would you like him then please give me a break
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Mark Penn, Bill Clinton and yes even Hilliary herself for refusing to referee her own campaign, bear FULL responsibility for her collapse. She had overwhelming advantages: Wife of President, enormous fundraising, name recognition, sympathy from a wide swath of voters, and with all of those advantages, she couldn’t pull through. Bottom line, between Penn’s miscalculations,(blowing all her money before the campaign was finished;It’s never good when you leave unpaid bills around and have to take personal loans to fund your own campaign) Bill’s shameful and embarrssing behavior on her behalf, and her own intransigence to portray herself as the 3rd Clinton term (establishment canidate) in a change election, set her up for a great fall. Anybody who refuses to see this (that includes you Bill!!!) is just indulging themselves into delusion.
Posted by: pity | June 30, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
GREAT POST PITY
HOW TRUE HOW TRUE i notice alot of people not on this blog but if it were about obama THE BASHING WOULDNT STOP!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Nothing new here. It was nearly a doomed campaign from the start. And paying Wolfson 250k a month didn’t help.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | June 30, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I knew it didn’t make sense that HRC was unaware of the money problems, and only scapegoated Patti Solis Doyle because she was a woman and Mark Penn was not. Way to cry sexism, you go, big girl!
Posted by: CC | June 30, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
obama never had to smear hillary—after all she came prepackaged with—-SLICK WILLY
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
RED NECK
yes you have answered my questions thank you do you feel hillary was qualified with national security and i have to disagree with you the american people are focusing on the economy soaring gas prices mortgage crisis not to mention energry crisis do you feel that john mccain is the same as hillary on these issues do you feel john mccain qualifies to address these issuses and handle them???
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
This Hillary supporter is voting McCain. If you think Obama wont have a problem with Clinton voters…you guys must be on some of that coke Obama tried.
Posted by: HasselMattressBack | June 30, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
ANGIE
ALL OF WHAT YOU SAID HAS BEEN BROUGHT ON BY THE REPUBLICANS–ALL 8 YEARS OF SELLOUT AND STUPID DECISIONS——i knew from day one as long as willy was involved hillary had no chance—he is the weight that tipped the scales against her.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
WILL BE WITH OBAMA UNTIL “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”
GO OBAMA
Posted by: zzzzzzzizi | June 30, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
HEY HASSEL MATRESS BACK
im going to ask you the same question i asked REDNECK if you voted for hillary why would you vote for mccain is that not like comparing her to him they are complete opposites so what your saying i cant have hillary i will take the next best thing john mccain well i think thats pretty insulting to hillary ought to be ashamed hillary supporter
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
redneck
what will you say when he colaborates with the enemy.he has been known to do that you know.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
of corse angie all of the hillary supporter are going to vote for john macain because mostly all of the people that voted for her where races and thought that obama was a musilm
Posted by: josh | June 30, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
i know josh people just dont want to do research these days they want to listen to fox news rush limbaugh obama is no more muslim than i am
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
of corse angie all of the hillary supporter are going to vote for john macain because mostly all of the people that voted for her where races and thought that obama was a musilm
Posted by: josh | June 30, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
angie
and what if you are muslim—-would that automaticly make you someone evil.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
obama should be the wright choice to lead amercia out of the mess we got into so please people vote for OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: josh | June 30, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
no RODNEY it would not i happen to know some muslims they are quite nice contray to the bush brainwash NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRIOST OR EVIL!!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
angie
thank you very much.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
im still waiting for someone to explain to me how obama smeared hillary or direspected her i did not see it and i still dont just because he won fair and square and did the primaries just like every other democrat in the past has done and won fair is no reason for people to blame him because hillarys campaign was a MESS sorry folks thats not obamas fault but hillarys she should of straighten her campaign out!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
hey RODNEY
do you think obama smeared hillary because i dont i think hillary damaged herself by not running a good campaign
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
hey JOSH
i agree obama is the right choice to lead america out of this mess its time for CHANGE
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
The article dealt with how Clinton’s people messed up the campaign yet people post negatives regarding Obama. If redneck and others want to vote for McCain be my guest. The hell hole this economy is in, and the fact that McCain is out there selling wolf tickets about Iran. You all get what you deserve, another war and total collapse of the economy. Boy that will really stick it to Obama!
Posted by: Tee | June 30, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
I AGREE TEE if people dont want to vote for obama thats their right but dont sit here and bash obama like REDNNECK a strong hillary supporter gonna vote mccain out of spite thats like saying john mccain is the next best thing to hillary please people like TEE said if you want to vote mccain so be it dont bash obama and DONT CRY IN 3 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN MCCAIN MAKES YOUR LIVES MISERALBE!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
angie
i think if you did the research you will find that is not obamas way of politics–hillarys biggest problem is willy—-she should have divorced him years ago—by hanging on to him she made it look like all that mattered is money and power and people catch on to that——willy was and probably still is a very sleezy person and his behavior seems to be a mental problem.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
The Clinton Machine was doomed by a better human (one with integrity) and SUPERIOR CANDIDATE!
It is ignorant to continue selling Obama short!
The Clinton Machine DID defeat every other candidate!
Posted by: Patriot | June 30, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
RODNEY
why do you post to me as if im blaming obama i know bill destroyed hillary i am an die hard obama supporter just trying to point out its not obamas fault she lost its not the medias its both bill and hillary because they thought they were entitled and sure they would win with this being a sure dem year and then when obama beat her is when they both became bitter and resorting to stupid things resulting in a bad campaign
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
This is stupid. She got about half of the votes. I can’t say that Bill ruined it for her. It may not have helped, but come on, it is not like Obama won by much.
Posted by: Kris | June 30, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
angie
when it all comes out about mccain in the 1960s he will be doomed as there are a number of people like me who have lived thru that era and he will be fully exposed for exactly what he is—more and more is surfacing every day—i would like to give obama the chance–the same way we gave JFK THE CHANCE.HE MAY BE WHAT WE NEED FROM ALL FRONTS INCLUDING THE RACIST CRAP.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I’m sick of these Vanity Fair type articles. The last magazine article by DiDi Myers’ husband was a final attempt to embarrass and humiliate the Clinton’s, and who knows where the author got her info on this one. That one seems to have fizzled out didn’t it… I also just love how the media has been trying to create a story by speculating about problems between Bill Clinton and Obama…all of these unnamed sources are getting a little tiresome. If they are such a part of the inner circle and all of this supposed information is getting leaked,I would think someone would be getting fired! It doesn’t really matter to me what caused Clinton to lose at this point, I still won’t be voting for Sen. Obama as nothing has changed to make me want to support him. Just a side note: I find it interesting now that John Kerry has an opponent in his primary for reelection, based on his voting for the same Iraq War resolution Obama had relentlessly hammered Clinton on for supporting. Wonder why Obama was so quick to forgive Kerry and his other Congressional supporters, but not Clinton. Oh, right, they were endorsing him. Again, the hypocrisy. It still amazes me how the most unprepared, unqualified, and least experienced candidate in the entire field wound up with the Democratic nomination. Maybe Vanity Fair should investigate that.
Posted by: dwc | June 30, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
ANGIE
I AM ON YOUR SIDE MAKE NO MISTAKE.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
hey DWC obama and hillary may have had bad words but they were in competition they both aiming for the same thing what did you expect for obama to kiss her a– of course they each had to try to bring the other down a little i just feel and im sorry you dont agree hillary did it a little more harsh and alot more often and strongliy than obama
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
This is stupid. She got about half of the votes. I can’t say that Bill ruined it for her. It may not have helped, but come on, it is not like Obama won by much.
Posted by: Kris |
You are right. It wasn’t like he won by a landslide.
Posted by: J | June 30, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
To so-called Hillary supporters who say thye are switching to McCain, two points:
One, Obama never disrespected Hillary. On the otherhand, McCain called Hillary “Intellectually dishonest” only a few months ago.
Two, if McCain is so experienced and competent in foreign affairs, how come in 2002 he told Larry King the war in Iraq would be easy, “I don’t think you’re going to have to see the scale of numbers of troops that we saw, nor the length of the buildup, obviously, that we had back in 1991.” 5 and 1/2 years of unending war later, I don’t think McCain’s experience is worth a hill of beans.
Posted by: Dennis | June 30, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
ANGIE
I EXPECT OBAMA TO EXPLODE AT ANY TIME I KNOW I SURE WOULD HAVE—BUT HE DID NOTand for that i applaud him–as he still won—-at times i felt everyone in public eye was against him.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Baloney! Hillary did not win because there was a concerted efforts by the good ole boys club in the Democratic party, press, Barack Obama and others to thwart Hilary. She could not win over the SuperDelegates because many of them are sexists. How soon we forget!
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
i see jetro the republican again
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I also forgot to mention that Vanity Fair was never in Hilary’s corner so I’m not sure why this is news now.
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
HEY RODNEY
i totally agree thats why i respect obama and i know he will make a great president i mean with beating the clintons thats huge and putting up with the gop and clinton smears like the muslim thing the inexperiance i mean he put up with alot and with him being half white and black in which that should not matter he hung in there he stayed strong and fought it all and look where he is and i would be proud to call him PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ANYDAY hes one strong man gonna make a great president!!!
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
angie
put your helmet on
HERE COMES THE NASTY REPUBS AGAIN—-dont make much sense–but do make a lot of noise
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Angie, the whole election was rigged from day 1 as “S” points out.
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
hey sue please dont start with that sexisit thing hillary got alot of men super delegates why cant you just wake up admit HILLARY AND BILL RAN A BAD CAMPAIGN BECAUSE OF THEIR OVER CONFIDENCE!!!
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Does anyone SERIOUSLY believe that barack hussien obama could ever be POTUS??
Posted by: JULIE | June 30, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Angie, you are entitled to think whatever you want. The rest of America experienced first-hand the atrocious primary elections. Without revisiting the craziness again, I can tell you that the Democratic Party Bosses, Obama, and folks disenfrachised a bunch of voters. This is a fact!
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I DONT KNOW RODNEY
if their republicans or just angry hillary supporters that dont know how to lose and get over it if it were the other way around and barack lost i would probably support hillary i wouldnt be that happy being barack was my first choice but i sure wouldnt vote for mccain at least hillary and obamas views are pretty much the same im not that stupid
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
slick willy the dinosaur had his own ideas and ruined hillary campain—-with his racist remarks and other insuinations
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Angie & Rodney, why are calling us names just because we don’t agree with you. This is typical Obama Camp tactics. I wouldn’t doubt it if you are being paid to blog on this site.
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
how sue because you know hillary agreed with the rest of the canidates that fl and mi did not count did she or did she not agree obama and edwards took their names off the ballot in mi following the rules if hillary did not like the decision of fl and mi she should of said it in the beginning but no she agreed than disagreed when she began to lose please stop with you bs and wake up think about what i and thousands of others are saying!!
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
sue im not calling you names im pointing out facts as far as obama campagin blogging please i have a real job
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Rodney, learn to spell you dope.
Posted by: brigitte | June 30, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
How was the election rigged when Obama got 18 million votes. The supers could have easily gone with Hillary. Would it have been rigged then.
Posted by: erin | June 30, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
She got 18 million votes. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than any candidiate in any primary in history.
So they must have done somethings right.
Posted by: ch | June 30, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
as values are very different—republicans have been thru history for big business—–and democratic party was known as working mans party—make your choice and live with it—after 70 years i know what i am saying—-still not able to be president as i am a dinosaur also
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Angie, why don’t you stop your “bs?” Obama already has the nomination so why are you trying to bully other people who don’t suscribe to your affection for Obama?
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
he bridgiet i have you to spell for me thanks
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
at times i felt everyone in public eye was against him.
Posted by: rodney
When would that have been. They fell head over heels in love with him. DNC and MSM. Even sent tingles up one commentator’s leg.
Posted by: j | June 30, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
im just simply saying and no disrespect to hillary she ran a bad campaign some of bills comments did not help her when she began losing she became somewhat bitter saying stupid things playing every card just goes to show by running a bad campaign you will lose and that is nobodys fault not obamas not the medias nobody but hillary she was in charge of her camp if people in her camp were doing her wrong she should have fired them including her own husband after all it was about her not him
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
j you in the gay community all feel that way—jetro
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I hope that all of us that can will do our best to help Hillary Clinton pay off ALL of her campaign debt quickly. She deserves that. You all knew Hillary, and Bill would go out on a limb for us if they felt they had too. That’s what they do. :-) As I said before Hillary Clinton was STUNNING!!!
You witnessed the greatest political campaign struggle in American history. One for the textbooks, and the history books. Hillary Clinton fought her heart out against all odds to win for all of the American people. While at the same time doing her best to prepare Sen. Barack Obama to win in November if he was the nominee. STUNNING!!! WELL DONE HILLARY CLINTON. WELL DONE! Your AMAZING! :-)
Sen. Obama could not have had a better opponent than Hillary Clinton. Nor could he have had a better opponent to prepare him for the battle royal to come against John McCain and the Republicans ahead of the November elections. Hillary Clinton was like a big Mama cat determined to teach her kitten how to hunt, and hang with the big dogs for the fights ahead. The Clinton’s have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it will take.
Hillary Clinton took Sen. Obama to every brawl, and cat fight she could find for him to develop his fight, and his chops. She even let her men (President Clinton, Governor Rendell, and many others) loose on Sen. Obama a little bit. So as to give Sen. Obama a taste of just how rough, and tough the big boys will be to do battle with. :-)
From sea to shining sea and US territories Hillary Clinton took Sen. Obama to see all of America. To meet, and greet all it’s people. And to ask for their votes and support, which he will need if he becomes President. She took him to see what he will be fighting for. And to see what she and President Clinton have fought so heroically for over so many years. Sen. Obama could not have ask for any better. Nor had any better teachers.
Bill Clinton, Chelsea, Mrs. Rodham, and the whole Clinton team were magnificent. They really showed their metal. BRAVO! TEAM CLINTON… BRAVO!
And YOU! my fellow Americans. I’m so proud of you. And proud to be one of you. You showed what you are made of. And what makes America so great. You never gave up on your Champion Hillary Clinton. Time, and time again you eagerly waited your turn to vote for Hillary Clinton. To raise her up and pass her along down the line to the rest of your waiting fellow Americans.
You never gave up on her. Just as Hillary Clinton never gave up on you. No matter how many times they counted her out. No matter how many times her detractors, and attackers brutally knocked her down. You knew she would get back up and get after it. And when she did you were ready to support her. This is your role model America. AMERICA LOVES A FIGHTER. AMERICA UNDERSTANDS A FIGHTER. AMERICA IS A FIGHTER. I’M PROUD OF YOU AMERICA!
Sen. Clinton looked a little tired her first day back at work in the senate after her history making heroic campaign. She has good reason to be tired. Doesn’t she America. But with time and good attention to the basics she, and you will recover. The basics are good well balanced nutrition, hydration, rest, exercise, recreation, POSITIVE! emotional support, and time (the greatest healer of all).
Y’all be good to President Clinton. I never saw a man fight so hard for a woman, and the American people as President Clinton fought for Hillary Clinton, and you. It’s going to take Bill a while. No one except Hillary Clinton could have fought any harder than President Clinton did for you.
I imagine President Clinton still remembers how the American people wailed, reached, and cried out for him as he took that last flight home as your President on Air Force One after the 2000 elections. Yes, many of us knew back then what was coming for the American people under a republican administration. Back to living like dumb animals again. Fighting over territory, and scraps of meat. You are dieing like fly’s now. Republicans too. But it’s ok because some people are making a lot of money off of your needless deaths. :-(
As always, Hillary Clinton, and President Clinton did their best for all of us. It was an EPIC!
YOU MADE US VERY PROUD HILLARY CLINTON! HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH :-)
WE LOVE YOU. AND ADMIRE YOU…
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
Posted by: jacksmith | June 30, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
rodney
Put a cork in it. I guess you are a homophobe as well as an idiot.
Posted by: J | June 30, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I appreciate the intelligent response from jacksmith. I totally agree with him!
Posted by: sue | June 30, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
hey j—GOTCHA
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
sue please explain to me how i am being a bully i know your angry dont blame me hillary lost im just pointing out the facts of why i think she lost being a bully would be saying love obama or i will beat you up hey its your choice alls im saying is you shouldnt blame him HE WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HER CAMPAIGN OR HER HUSBAND OR HER PEOPLE
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Whatever Rodney.
Posted by: J | June 30, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
why do you all think i hate hillary because i dont why because obama was my first choice so now i hate hillary i would have supported hillary if she won maybe not as strong as i support obama but i would never vote mccain if obama lost guess im not a bitter person and i understand sometimes you win sometimes you lose
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
The premise of this blog thread was based on a biased article written against Hillary Clinton and how she ran her campaign. As her supporter, I’m in totally disagreement with the article points. Somehow, we are accused of being a “Republican”, “gay” and etc for voicing dissent.
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
J JUST DONT GET ALL TINGLY—-JUST KIDDING.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
HEY SUE
when the media writes articles about obama do you think their bias
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
I appreciate the intelligent response from jacksmith. I totally agree with him!
Posted by: sue | Jun 30, 2008 8:51:48 PM
I agree there. Then you have the other extreme, Rodney.
Posted by: J | June 30, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
HEY SUE
when the media writes articles about obama do you think their bias
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
I appreciate the intelligent response from jacksmith. I totally agree with him!
Posted by: sue | Jun 30, 2008 8:51:48 PM
I agree there. Then you have the other extreme, Rodney.
Posted by: J | June 30, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
SUE–STOP OR WE WILL SEND YOU TO ANGER MANAGEMENT—-have fun enjoy life it is too short to be so serious.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
way to go rodney seems the only one angry in here is SUE
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Ditto to you, Rodney. We’ll need to send you to Anger Management…..LOL!!
Posted by: Sue | June 30, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
sue i dont get angry—ido not care about getting even anymore—–laugh a little
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
HEY SUE
can you give us the real reason you dont like obama it cant because of his policies hillarys and him are pretty much the same and dont give me the experiance thing he has more experiance than hillary as senator please dont be afraid speak but be nice
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Bill got Hillary to the dance. Without the great success and nostalgia for the Clinton years, Hillary would most likely not have been Senator or a pres. candidate. Obama’s two biggest strategic successes were:
1) focusing on getting the most delegates esp. the caucus process and;
2) attacking Bill and the Clinton years, thereby undercutting Hillary’s greatest strength.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 30, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
To the poster saying she’s glad Hillary finally spoke about her campaign…read the article again.. these aren’t Hillary’s words.
To those saying Hillary ran a poor campaign. Think about this. Before Iowa, all the pundits spoke about Hillary’s organized campaign, her tight ship campaign. She put in place a strategy that would have beaten anybody but the GREAT ORATOR! Sure, they put too many resources in Iowa, and Hillary had to make adjustments, and adjust she did. From the end of Feb. forward, Hillary whipped Obama’s a##!! Based on primaries, Hillary beat Obama by over 600,000 votes.
Obama was just very fortunate for caucuses which, in many cases,the party activists used abusive tactics which broke caucus rules in order to win. He’s very lucky a caucus in TX with 42,000 voters were able to overturn 2.4million voters decision in the primary, and award Obama more delegates. He’s very fortunate a win in the Iowa caucus by a margin of 13,000 votes garnered him 13 net delegates, whereas, Hillary won by over 200,000 votes in PA, but only netted 10 delegates. Obama was very fortunate that an urban vote counted for more than a rural vote. Disproportionality has been very very good to him…..
Obama was very fortunate that MI/FL were the only two states penalized, when SC and Iowa also broke the rules, but both of these states received waivers instead of punishment. Coincidence?? The DNC should never make a ruling that has the effect of altering an entire election, nor should they ever disenfranchise voters.
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
hopespring
willy is what willy is——the thought of him in the white house in any way scared the hell out of a lot of people—–a women said to my son that they all fool around—and his response was DID YOU REALIZE THAT HE IS A SEXUAL PREDITOR—made me stop and take notice.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
hey kmb08 did hillary or did she not agree with the fl and mi thing in the beginning even stating on tv that fl and mi were not gonna count than when she was losing she switched and wanted them seated please explain how thats right
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Angie,
Hillary does not despise McCain. They are on the Armed Services Comm. together, and have made many trips overseas together. They are known to be very good friends. When Hillary was first elected to the US Senate, which is 80% male, and the old boy network is still in play, most of the established Senators gave her the cold shoulder, but it has been noted that Sen. McCain was the first Senator to welcome her, and they have been friends ever since.
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
bill brought on his own drama with the american people but i guess thats obamas fault too when bill was cheating on hillary
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
angie—–what has to happen now is for people to decide if they are REPUBLICAN–OR DEMOCRAT– THE IN FIGHTING ONLY HELPS THE OTHER SIDE.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
KMBO8 and where do you get this information from well i guess you either are a repug troll stirring up trouble or b a very troubled person
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
THATS RIGHT RODNEY I AGREE
i guess the only thing people have to figure out if they liked the way the last 7 years have been or do they want change than they can cast their vote hopefully with intelligance and not bitterness but will see rodney nov is still a ways away
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Two other factors doomed Hillz campaign:
1) Hillary;
2) Relying on Hillary Judgment.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | June 30, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
ANGIE
i had a person work for me that acted like slicK willy—had no respect for women—-i treated him humanly and told him i was giving him 2 weeks notice and when time was up he would be fired—-shocked the hell out of him but he did not change–he was also fired from his next job—a leopards spots do not change.SOMETHING HILLARY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
This article is about exactly what we were told for months and what HILLARY told us herself….HER CAMPAIGN WAS MIMANAGED FINANCIALLY AND SHE CANT BLAME ANYONE OTHER THAN HER ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM.
…Hil isnt’t a novice to this stuff. she should have had Carville and all those Clinton 92-2000 people giving her advice….oooops, she did. They let her down. NOT OBAMA, NOT MCBUSH, NOT ANY OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES.
FAIR AND SQUARE HIL LOST THIS PRIMARY….AND AS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, I TRULY BELIEVED THAT THE EXPERIENCE BEHIND HER WOULD CARRY HER OVER BARACK.
sIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEE. LOL
Barack earned this just like Bill eearned it in 92 and again in 96.
stop being poor examples for women everywhere and trying to grab sympathetic votes. Hilary is being a REAL WOMAN and admitting her defeat. THATS WHAT REAL MEN AND REAL WOMEN DO.
Please DO NOT be fake men(bush 2000) and instead of accepting defeat, cry and act like you’ve been victimized.
Posted by: dokta | June 30, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
The only writer here who makes sense is kmb08. The rest of you need to go back to school and learn how to spell and write a sentence! Obama is a lying, cheating desperate guy who wants power at any price. He has no leadership experience in any way. He is unproven, went to a racist church for 20 years, hung out with corrupt Chicago thugs, snorted coke, etc. What are you Obamabots thinking? Your HOPE stickers should say HELP! We’ll all need it with that jerk as POTUS.
Posted by: weena | June 30, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
we have plenty of time till election and when all the truth about mccain comes out and it will as it has started—no self respecting democrat would ever vote republican.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
he weena—-IF SPELLING IS ALL THAT MATTERS TO YOU–TEACH SCHOOL WE SIMPLY DONT CARE.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
HEY RODNEY
i agree but i think hillary didnt divorce him to much power there and we all know SHE wanted to be the first woman president and divorcing bill she probabaly would not made senate and be where she is today thats why she didnt learn
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Good grief…the info in this article is old news, and Vanity Fair has a pattern of smearing the Clintons, so what’s new?!?!
B.C. worked 20hr days for his wife, and he helped her more than hurt her. You all didn’t see any news reports on him as he travelled the rural areas, and areas in which Hillary always did best. People can say all they want, Hillary did better in the areas Bill visited. Sure, after a heckler interrupted his speech for an hour, Bill spoke his mind to him. Good for Him!! Sure, after the 1000th question about racism, BC justifiably was angry, and of course, this is the only thing that aired. Are you really surprised?!?! BC is the most respected President worldwide in my lifetime.
You’ve got to understand one thing. The Clintons live under a different microscope. Most humans couldn’t survive it. Kudos to both of them!!!
Hillary had some advantages going into this race, but she had disadvantages too! She actually had to “introduce” herself to millions of voters who had an image of her that had been successfully bottled by the Republican vilification machine for 16yrs ad nauseum. Obviously, Hillary made mistakes, but she did more right than wrong, and she didn’t have Howard Dean or Pelosi on her side.
Ever notice the candidates as they worked the rope lines? Hillary chats, listens, shakes hands, gives autographs, hugs, but otoh, Obama tries to hurry through the lines, RARELY gives autographs, and is more a finger pincher than a hand shaker. He really doesn’t like to be bothered by those pesky voters. If you think it is Hillary who is only thinking of herself, you should study her civil rights, education rights, human rights efforts since she was 19 yrs. old., before she even met Bill Clinton. If you wanted someone who would fight for the people, you picked the wrong nominee in Obama. I’ve not seen anything Obama would stand up for yet! He’s duped the voters for his self-aggrandizement.
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
oh by the way obama supporters i donated today to obama donate by midnight toninght and you will get an obama car magnet!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Rodney and Angie lookin like
Barack and hilary….NICE
Posted by: Neptune Ambroise | June 30, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
WHERE IS J –USUALLY GIVES ME HELL A FEW TIMES—sorry about the caps
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
ANGIE HOW CAN YOU SAY OBAMA WON FAR AND SQUARE HIS CHANGE WERE HER SOLUTIONS HE STOLE EVERYTHING FROM HER REMEMBER HER SPEECHES FROM BEFORE HE EVEN CONSIDERED RUNNING AND THEN LISTEN TO HIS 2 OR 3 MONTHS AFTER HE DECIDED TO RUN HE DID NOT HAVE A CLUE AND STILL DOESN’T I AM FOR HILLARY ALL THE WAY TO EVEN TYPING HER IN IN NOVEMBER. AND ANY BODY WITH AN OUNCE OF SENSE WILL DO THE SAME
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | June 30, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
BY THE WAY, FOR EVERYONE WHO SAYS B-ROCK ISNT EXPERIENCED!!?!?!!
JFK WASNT EITHER.
Posted by: Neptune Ambroise | June 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I find this laughable about the “love” triangle going on now between Bill, Hillary, and Obama. Bill will use Obama in order to get money to pay off Hillary’s campaign debt. Obama is sucking up to Hillary to try and win her supporters. Hillary is sitting back, keeping her delegates with hidden agenda. Looks like in this triangle, that the boy “NoBama” will lose. The Clintons ALWAYS have a hidden agenda and you can bet that Obama is on the losing end. And the soap opera continues…..
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
neptune
now that is a thought better than bush cheney and nccain—(larry,moe and curley)
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
ALL WE HAVE ARE 2 PANDERS ONE FOR THE RICH THE OTHER FOR BLACKS SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE POOR AND THE WHITES
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | June 30, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
kmb08
seriously do you watch tv have you ever watched an obama rally i have actually been to one i didnt get to shake his hand though i was too far away obama does the same shakes hand hugs etc they mob the man so bad how can he hurry through the crowds
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
here comes angry rose spitting fire and brimstone—giving us hell—if ever there was a need for anger management
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
water under the bridge … lets look ahead ….. lets not speculate….. lets come together and put a democrat in the white house and save our country…. let’s end gwb3 NOW.
No more republicans. They can trash a country from day one.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
rose how can you sit their and say that about the blacks clearly you said you listen to obamas speeches so you would know he dosent just favor blacks but all americans and im white and that leaves me with obama
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Neptune, JFK was never a community organiser.
Posted by: brigitte | June 30, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
I agree, Rose. NoBama was supposed to be the candidate of “Change”, was extremely to the left in the primaries, but now, as all politicians in the past, is moving to the center. This isn’t “change”….NoBama is a panderer, always has been, always will be. He continues to lie, lie, and then lie again. Face it, NoBama, America doesn’t want you…..go back to Chicago to the corruption you are used to…we don’t want you in OUR White House!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
brigitte —how old are you
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
RODNEY I AGREE rose needs anger management just like sue
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Angie,
When the DNC levied the MI/FL ruling, they had no idea all 50 states and US territories would be involved in this election. They found themselves in a pickel. They would never have made such a mistake had they known beforehand. The rules never said the voters would be disenfranchised. It was merely suppose to be 50% of delegates. The worst part of it all was Obama blocking a revote. When a ruling has the effect of actually altering an entire election, the DNC should have demanded a revote, which was already paid for by private funds. Basically, Obama was afraid to let all voters vote because he most likely would have lost.
Did they all agree to it, sure, but when the effect is to punish only two states when five actually committed the same crime, something is very wrong!
Also, I ask you, Did Obama agree to public financing beforehand? Did he flipflop on Nafta, Gun Ban, Israel position….OH, looks like it doesn’t matter what he agreed to beforehand. hmmmm
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
HEY DAVD FROM TEXAS
what makes you think all of america wants hillary and i gotta tell you ive never heard obama lie
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
kmb08….Obama has flip-flopped on just about every issue. He was a different candidate in the primaries. He’s a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Unfortunately, he has brainwashed people into believing his empty rhetoric. It will be sooooo nice to see him lose in November…I can’t wait!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
david from texas
he is the candidate of change. mccain is the candidate of more of the same.
he has only been the senate for less than a term. how can you develop a voting record from that. on the other hand mccain was in the senate before the invention of the wheel and he is a avid flip flopper with a long long record. Obama has the foresight to know he is running for president of the UNITED STATES not just the rich and well connected. His campaign is being funded by the people and it is the people who he will answer to. WHAT A NOVEL IDEA!!!
That why he is not taking PAC or lobbyist funding. McCains staff and funding is primarily PAC and lobbyist … not to mention all of gwb deep pocket friends (who by the way are trying hard to stomach McCain) how funny.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
kmbo8
water under the bridge—we need a democrat in the white house–and get big business under controll–and just maybe take our country back.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
@ Angie, where do you want to start? He denied supporting partila birth abortions, which he advocates. He denied his comments about NAFTA. He denied, even after it was written in his own handwriting, about gun control. He has lied about George Soros and campaign funding. And the list goes on and on.. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and wake up…you’re fighting a losing battle here.
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
haahahahhahahah…..we don’t want you in our whitehouse….
George Bush has reduced the role of United States President to it lowest level since um… the Declaration of INdependence. Bush Makes Nixon Look like Kennedy, Bush makes Saddam Hussein look like the Freaking Pope. One last one….(drum roll please)
..Bush makes Osama Bin Laden look like a schoolyard bully.
FOR ALL HIS IMPERFECTIONS BARACK IS STILL THE BEST CHOICE AMONG THI FIELD OF CANDIDATES AND LETS NOT JUDGE LEST YE BE JUDGED. ALL CANDIDATES ARE INHERENTLY FLAWED. NIT-PICKING DOESNT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON A VERY BASIC LEVEL, THE POLITICAL ARENA EATS WHO YOU WERE UP AND MAKES A NEW YOU.
Posted by: Neptune | June 30, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
rodney
agree totally
Now only if we can get ABC to stop peeling this scab off and let it heal.
No more republicans in the white house. The dems need at least a 16 year run so we can untrash this country.
The republicans really stunk the place up.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Omentum….have you ever heard of George Soros? Why don’t you Google him and find out his associations with Obama. This is scary. Obama has a hidden agenda, one that does not include America, you can bet on that!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Angie,
Good grief! Do some research! You’ll actually need to do more than “watch tv”.
Yes, Obama was a state legislator. He was only on the national scene for 1yr. before deciding he wanted to be the most powerful man in the world. Don’t compare state politics to Washington politics….totally different creatures.
Obama earned the reputation of “gutless”
because he always seemed to be “gone” when time to make the tough votes. Emil Jones placed Obama’s name on pieces of legislation to pad BO’s resume’, although BO didn’t actually work on these bills. This, naturally, angered many of his colleagues. In addition, Obama almost came to blows with a colleague after BO mistakenly voted to eliminate funds from a child welfare office in this colleague’s district. ooops..Did you hear about the time BO blocked other candidates from having their names on the ballot so he could run uncontested?!?
Don’t even try to say BO has as much experience as Hillary. You won’t find anybody in Washington politics who will agree with you on that one!! Ludicrous!
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
david from texas
have you ever heard of gwb and the saudis.
not that is scary
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
here they come again—-the trailer park people with their hooch—bashing kool aid——PUT MORE TAXES ON LIQUER
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
now that is scarey… i meant to say
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
BY THE WAY, SOMEBODY LOOK UP JOHN MCCAIN’S …..FIRST WIFE….YES, LOOK HER UP. THAT WILL EXPLAIN HIS PERSPECTIVE OF WOMEN.
Posted by: Neptune | June 30, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
kmbo8 i know obama changed on public financing but he explained why and he may have changed on other things but you want to talk flip flop mccain has flipped flopped so bad this man doesnt even know what he supports or what he opposes the people dont even know what he stands for just listen to his speeches one week its this next week totally diffrent
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Clinton’s = criminals
Posted by: geddesman | June 30, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Again, NOBamabots spewing without proof! Doesn’t matter, Obama is done for….America will not let him in OUR White House! Go back to your Kool-Aid!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Sick of the two corporate criminals yet? Nothing will change with Obama or McCain and anyone with a pulse knows it. You do have a choice and it’s a proven leader and the most effective fighter against the evil that is Corporate America this country has ever known. A true civil servant and advocate of the people with a proven 40 year track record of leadership for the average American and his name is Ralph Nader. Nader knows more about Washington and Corporate America than McCain and Obama combined! Be careful what you vote for you just may get it! You do have a choice America Nader/Gonzalez in 2008!!!
Posted by: geddesman | June 30, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
somebody dancing on stage singing bombombom iran
NOW THAT’S SCARY
Someone calling their wife a trollop
That’s scary.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Repugnicans are hilarious.
They actually try to peddle fear by saying that Obama will bad for this country.
HA…. Why in the heck would we want to end this great period of PROSPERITY AND PEACE!!!!!
WE NEED CHANGE
NOW
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
HEY KMBO8 explain to me why all the super delgates backed obama are they not from washington and DAVID FROM TEXASwho are all these people your naming associations of obama never heard of them in my life and i care not to research on a karl rove or rush limbaugh or fox news website thank you i do my own research so save your gop links for the repugs
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
DAVID—GO TO TIME OUT
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
geddesman
I think you will be only one voting for Nader this year.
Good luck with that.
Without Nader there would have been no BUSH.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
HEY DAVID your always on these blogs spewing hate about obama i have yet to figure ouy if your republican or a hillary supporter save the bs david were not buying it and the only thing we as the people should fear now is BUSH HAS 6 MONTHS LEFT IN OFFICE WHAT MORE CAN HE DO TO US NOW THATS WHAT WE SHOULD BE FEARING
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Neptune..
JFK was actually a legislator, wounded war veteran, & a Pulitzer Prize winner…
Speaking of running good campaigns, George Bush ran one of the best. Tell me again what it says about governing?!?!
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Neptune..
JFK was actually a legislator, wounded war veteran, & a Pulitzer Prize winner…
Speaking of running good campaigns, George Bush ran one of the best. Tell me again what it says about governing?!?!
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
mccain when in canada said we are living in an age of prosperity due to nafta—wonder what world he has come from—-no jobs–china sucking the blood out of us—and the effort under way to try the same thing with columbia…i cannot help but believe the man is a total idiot—needs to work for a living instead of taking payoff from big business
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
angie
hopefully he doesnt dream up a new axis of evil
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
kmb08
i voted for JFK THE CATHOLIC WHO SHOULD NOT WIN BECAUSE THE CHURCH WOULD RUN OUR COUNTRY—BOY THAT IS SCARY ISNT IT.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
OMENTUM
the whole talk with the gop about another terriost attack on america and how charlie black said that would help mccain thats kinda scary and we all know what bush is capable of with 911 and everything now this is scary makes you wonder what they just might do to stay in the white house think about it!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
mccain is an elitist
he and his sugar mama are filthy rich. He is soooo out of touch with the real america it is pathetic.
When Obama was organizing on the streets he and sugar mama was deciding which mansion they were going to spend the weekend.
He even admits we has been prosperous during the bush administration… no mcsame the question was not WERE YOU prosperous … the question was WAS AMERICA prosperous.
Just a filthy rich confused elitist.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Unlike Kerry, Barack Obama Covets George Soros’ Support
Barack Obama has little reason not to take money from billionaire liberal financier George Soros, a man other Democrats keep at a distance.
Obama, however, is different from most Democrats because of his willingness to embrace the controversial Soros. Shortly after Soros equated the abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Obama joined him for a New York fund-raiser June 7.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200407%5CNAT20040727a.html
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
wating for the bin laden tapes to start flowing where is he oh i guess we have to wait until oct or nov than he will be all over the networks
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
hey soneone flipped over a cowflop and out came arthur
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
kmb08,
Touche, but by good campaigning, do you mean his role as a “compassionate conservative” his executions in texas, or maybe Karl Rove and their mockery of those fools who “represent” christians. if good campaigning means stealing elections every four years then yes GWB rocks.
Posted by: Neptune | June 30, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
I can still remember that dufus sitting in that classroom when he got the message of what happened. I believed one of those second graders were better prepared than he was to be president at that moment.
What I totally don’t understand is how he got elected again. Sadly we won’t have a choice to send him back to crawford on our terms. But what we can do is stop his third term.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Angie,
I’m going to let you kids have this blog. I don’t have the time to help you…bye bye…
Posted by: kmb08 | June 30, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
George Soros (Moveon.org) Backs Obama
Mr. Obama also attracted major national Democratic donors, including George Soros and members of his family, who gave a total of $60,000.
http://expreacherman.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/george-soros-moveonorg-backs-obama/
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
i told you david from texas no one is interested in the fox karl rove gop website links that smear obama
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
And so, Angie, evidently, you don’t know much about your boy, Nobama….”sweetie”, you need to do your research before you post with the grown ups! NoBama 08!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
david from texas
You will have a lot of left over scareberry koolaid this year. America will not be having any.
Drink up… don’t let it go to waste.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
The only blogger here who knows the issues and make irrational statements is kmb08. Both angie and Rodey are members of Obama’s Kool Ade Gang and will defend him to the end whether they can spew out acurrate info or not.
Senator Obama is a scary candidate when one considers how far left and inexperienced he really is. He is also a flip-flopper according to the direction of the wind.
LOL
Posted by: Mary | June 30, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Mary, good posts! I, too, believe angie and rodney have over done it on the NoBama KoolAid !
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Mary …. don’t you have a little lamb to find.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
I’m voting dem because of the Supreme Court. I’m sure there will be 2 justices retiring. We can’t afford McCain to nominate them.
Posted by: erin | June 30, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
david
when we get thru with mccain and his nam escapades he will not be able to hide——
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
well neptune got rid of kmbo8 guess she wasnt a hillary supporter but a republican troll she couldnt handle the truth about bush or mccain we understand truth hurts!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
McCain is not a flip flopper
He is just confused… zoning in and out of reality.
Posted by: Omentum | June 30, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
SADLY WE SEE THE CORRUPTION THAT UNFOLDS WHERE OBAMA HAS SET FOOT.
SADLY WE SEE THE HALF NON BLACK MAN WHO IS AFRAID OF HIS OWN SHADOW.
SADLY WE SEE HIM HOLDING HANDS – HIS SWEATY PALMS- AND IDIOT GAZE.
SADLY WE SEE THE FEW WHO BELIEVE HIM AMERICAN AND HOPE THAT THEIR REBEL TEEN SPIRIT WILL PREVAIL ANOINTING HIM KING OF SWAZILAND.
SADLY HE FADES IN TO THE NIGHT, SINKING IN THE MUD OF HIS OWN DISTANT WORDS.
SADLY OBAMA SADLY
Posted by: Arthur | June 30, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
ok, rodney, so what? I didn’t say I was a McCain supporter…do what you want to. I’m take a stance, have proof that NoBama will not be good for America………he was extrememly left, now with his pandering, is moving to the center. He’s not a candidate for change, he’s the same ole, same ole. Obama panders and will say anything to get votes. He lies, talks out of both sides of his mouth, and is basically an idiot!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
mary
with someone like your mcshame–there is nothing we can lie about—the man is a total loser—-dont know if he is that dumb or just senile
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
how can you say he is moving from left to center—and them state he is not for change?????????????
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
well i hate to burst your bubble DAVE FROM TEXAS but i happen to be a 38 year old woman with two children ages 6 and 10 and excuse the hell out of me if im worried about their future oh and thanks for the SWEETIE compliment love it by the way i dont like koolaid
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
arthur—too much boose for you—-go to time out
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
mary are you drinking again????
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Hey Angie
Nobody ever says I have children 6 and 10 , every parent starts with the eldest child.
You liar. you liar, you liar
( like Obama )
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
@ Rodney…finally you have it figured out. The ONLY change that Nobama wants is the lies he gives his supporters. In the primaries he was extremely left, then, he changed, albeit lying his a$$ off, switching gears on issues like abortion, NAFTA, guns, etc. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. I guess you can call that “change”. But, I feel good. Rodney, you are finally figuring out this idiot NoBama! We welcome you to the real candidate’s side!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
hey bloggers i do belive they say people in texas are RACIST!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Hey angie, Rodney is turning against NoBama…we’ll let you support the real candidate and turn your back on NoBama as well….sweetie!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Barack and Michelle, went to the Hill, to try to gain her supporters,
Barack fell down, Michelle is clown, and the supporters were rolling with laughter!
LOLOL!
Posted by: david from texas | June 30, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
well looks like the kids decided to join welcome kids but hurry up its almost bed time hey KOOL AID KING mommy know your on the computer past your bed time isint it
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
david
at this point i will vote for him as mccain is a total lier–i was around when he was prisoner–and believe me i know the facts—but anyway if obama lets me down i will work even harder to kick him out….my country and family will always be first.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
I heard Obama’s favorite KoolAid was “black cherry” !
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
angie
aparting piece of advise—never hit your children on the head or you will make republicans out of them.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Rodney, excellent post and I’m sorry for putting you in the same category as angie. I really like the part that you would work to kick Obama out. Thank You.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
HEY DAVE IN TEXAS how old are you sweetie are you even old enough to vote because with a mentality like yours it would be hard to belive you were
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN BIN OBAMA VISITED IRANIAN PRESIDENT MAHOUMAD AHMDINEJAD.
Unipress. March 5th 2009
President Bin Obama visited Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran´s capital city Teheran . Bin Obama talked with his counterpart after Teheran´s governement launched a surprise nuclear attack on former ally Israel . In his initial speech Bin Obama praised the Republic of Iran´s military for their accuracy and dedication to the islamic cause and promised to push for economic support. – ” It is a joyous moment ” – he added – ” to see up close history unfolding ” . He also referred to his recent quest for change in America and the first clear steps achieved in less than 100 days.
Posted by: Arthur | June 30, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
david you never in your wildest dreams will be as smart as obama—-and you cannot drink your way out of that—-
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Jacksmith you are right!
So many asked, “How did Obama disrespect Hillary?” One of the ways, he and his supporters made Hillary and her supporters out to be racist. There wasn’t anything she could say that he didn’t try to make it out to be a racist remark. The first day he heard the statement he would make a statement and accuse her of having made a racial slur and then the news people would do his bidding and have it in print and on TV news and then the next day the hypocrit (Obama) would stand back and say he didn’t consider it being racist, etc. He let the news media do his dirty work. Obama has never made a hard choice, he has never made a stand that would not be accepted by the majority.
People have the right to think how they wish but if they have any knowledge at all, they have to admit that Hillary did better than Obama with less money. But when one doesn’t have the party big shots and the news media behind you, one doesn’t have a chance. There were people such as both leaders in both houses asking for her to step down before she got started. Obama couldn’t win except in the Caucous States where a low percentage of the people were represented.
I have always been a Democrat but I am disgusted with both parties. I will be an Independent until the big wheels in the Democratic party change some of their crazy rules and stop choosing party over Country.
The Clinton years were the best this Country had and will see for a long time. Even David who was God’s chosen, was weak when he came to women. Also, at the time the Republicans were calling for Clinton to be impeached, the main ones were committing adultery such as Delay, Newt. Such hypocrits.
Why are people accused of being racist when they refuse to support Obama? I put the Country before Party and to me Obama isn’t what the Country needs and neither is McCain and therefore I can’t vote for either. I think Obama is weak and flows with what ever is easy.
Posted by: Mickey | June 30, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
WELL RODNEY
looks like there back again take a deep breath and get ready!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
ABC DELETES MY POSTS
ABC DELETES MY POSTS.
I LIKE TO KNOW WHY????????????????
Posted by: REDNECK | June 30, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
carpe
i can assure you angie and i agree on most issues——
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Thats unfortunate, Rodney. Good post, Mickey!
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
yes the more boose they drink the nastier they get—-the trailer park should be locked up at 10 pm.
obama when president will make them wear colored sheet and pillowcase to meetings—-scares the hell out of them.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
–angie– I drink water, coffee, and 7Up. What do you add to you Kool Ade?–or do you just sniff it?
Please stop attacking, you have nothing to stand on but hot air. And I think it is wonderful for you to support your show boat candidate if it makes your life complete. I am sorry you have no other passions.
LOL – STFU
Posted by: Mary | June 30, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
you know parents should control their children more on the internet they do have parental blocks go play your laystation or x box no need to be involed in politicts let mom and dad worry about that now go play elsewhere children
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
mickey
in love with the clinton years
did you ever hear of nafta and who signed it or how about china trade agreements———slick willy sold us down the toilet—and hillary ruined herself by staying with the sleeze.oh i forgot he took credit for budget balance that regan started
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
oh mary belive me i do have other passions like keeping john mccain out of the white house!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
mary is back from time out
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Angie
Look at that mirror telling you how old and wrinkled your political choices are.
And then notice that , in fact , you are of a darker complextion than the candidate you momentarily follow. That is because you are Black and proud and he his nor Black nor White…just a sad joke of a man.
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I think Obama can be classified as an “oreo”.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
HEY KOOLAID KING
for your information i am WHITE WHITE AS SNOW not that that should matter i just happen to not be a BIG RACISIT LIKE YOU i dont judge people by their skin color you know i often wonder what it would be like if hillary were BLACK
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
man the freaks are all coming out–hate to see what is here after midnight—arthur is on some kind of a trip.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Angie, to your surpise, remember, your “boy” Obammy, played the race card early on…..you just don’t want to admit it. I agree, Kool Aid King should not be calling you color, but the fact remains that Obammy made this campaign a “race” campaign.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
you know whats sad and scary is the racisim that is still alive in this country that is a shame not just by whites but blacks too really sad i teach my children to like and respect everyone no matter what color or origin as long as they treat you with respect give respect and you will get respect
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
AND IT CAME TO BE THAT ALL THE ANIMALS OF THE AFRICAN HILLS CAME TO VISIT THIS ONE MAN. THIS ONE MAN THAT CLAIMED HIS THRONE – THE ANCIENT THRONE – .
IN KEEPING WITH HIS LEGACY AND TRADITION HE WRAPPED HIMSELF IN SELF PITY, KEEPING THE WISE AT BAY.
HE THEN UTTERED HIS FRAGIL STATEMENT, HIS TRUE LIE : “LET THEIR BE CHANGE IN THE JUNGLE …I COME TO BEAR WITNESS OF UNHOLY MASSACRES .. I AM THE OBAMA, THE ONE WHO CIRCLES DEATH AND EATS FIRE….”
Posted by: Arthur | June 30, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Angie stated:
“you know whats sad and scary is the racisim that is still alive in this country that is a shame not just by whites but blacks too”
Very good comment, Angie and I agree with you and I respect the fact of how you are teaching your children about race.
What is sad is the fact that the candidate you are supporting, Obama, brought race to the forefront of this election. When he called white people, namely his grandmother, “typical”, that cut to the heart of race, and Obama will lose votes for it.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
RODNEY AGREED
FREAKS no wonder this country is so messed up look at the people on this blog spewing hate racisim we are ALL AMERICANS UNDER ONE NATION UNDER ONE GOD please kids what have your parents taught you??
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
carpe
i think slick willy did that—quote—who does he think he is jessy jackson–
i am astounded a white person calling another racist
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
DAVID FROM TEXAS IS GONE
he never answered my questions about his age i think hes here his new name is ladies and gentlemen KOOL AID KING i can spot that mentality anywhere
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
It does not matter if the pope or the queen of England endorses barack Hussien obama, the man will never be president.
Posted by: brigitte | June 30, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Vanity Fair, like so many print media and TV news media, have reporters who seem to be more interested in anything other than facts. The story they wrote about Bill Clinton (and Hillary) was just fodder for people who dwell on lies. Any way to sell magazines or get high ratings on TV. TV news has been completely destoryed by so call reporters who are bias and could care less who knows it and could care less about facts. More gossip than news.
The newspapers and news media in general is suppose to help a democracy to continue to be a democracy by weeding out facts and relating them in an unbias manner but we do not have this in America except in a very low percentage of the media. During Bush’s years as President, they have helped him to become a useless President and helped this Country into the situation we find ourselves in. They spent their time trying to be loved by him and his cohorts instead of telling how things really were. For over 7 years, this Country was completely controlled by the Republicans and being they were so popular, they could do anything and never get bad publicity. But this Country will have the same situation if Obama gets elected. The so call reporters and talk shows will kiss his butt and ignore any wrong decision he makes. They have already given him a free pass.
Both parties completely ignore what is best for this Country and go strictly for personalites and ratings.
Posted by: Mickey | June 30, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Vanity Fair is being sued for a slander job on Bill Clinton and a Hollywood starlet that doesn’t even know him…I wouldn’t believe everything I read if I were you!
The first negative ad in the campaign was put out by Obama…a personal attack on Hillary…”She’ll say or do anything to be President”
Obama was rude and belligerent throughout the campaign. He allowed his campaign to smear and slander people and pretended like it had nothing to do with him.
His campaign was calling for Ferrarro to be fired…he was claiming she didn’t say anything wrong and then he ultimately gave a speech comparing her to one of the worst racist in the country his long term mentor Wright.
He is the worse hypocrite of them all …he handed the microphone to McPeak when McPeak called Bill Clinton terrible names and later he pretended that he was not involved.
Elect Obama you get the worst of Bush plus a guy that will continue to change all his positions..He will continue to attack and pretend it’s because they might attack him…he will allow his surrogates to pull any dirty trick in the world….they used to call Clinton “Slick Willie”
Obama is a lot more slippery than that.
Look guys the 527 that “swiftboated” Kerry was not involved..(it would have been illegal for them to coordinate) in any campaign.
The Obama campaign represents the dirtiest and nastiest campaign in recent memory.
Yet the press will continue to act as his own personal media.
NoBama for me…I researched his time in IL and the guy has no moral compass…Does not walk the talk…God help us all if he becomes President.
Posted by: Jackie | June 30, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
angie
my mother once stated that i could get along with anyone—but some of these people are unbelievable—seems to happen same time most every night—i think after the bars start closing
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Koolaid in new flavors:
-Creamy dark chocolate
-Maroon smile lips
-Racy loose brown
-Krunchy Klap Klown
-Angie equal Rodney
- Brown surprise muslimy
- Blackie in your cherry
- Niger by the toe
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
HEY CARPE i rember what he said and stop trying to spin it he said his grandmother was very racial and made mean and racial slurs to people thats what he did not like about her know if he supporter her he would be racisit now he dosent he racisit because shes white and as far as the whitey term i never heard him say it but may i ask why hillary as well as bill always all the time used the saying WHITE WORKING BLUE COLLAR VOTERS all the time why did they always refer them WHITE all the time as if obama never got WHITE votes
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
You all can smear Bill Clinton all you like, but we’ll see if Obama wins 2 terms and then leaves with an approval rating in the mid 60%. Long after Obama’s career is past there will still be nostalgia for the Clinton years! Wait and see.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 30, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
funny part i seem to not recollect obama trashing anyone—–this sounds more and more like bar chatter
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
ohh yeah and :
African Obama delight
Hawaian Indonesian splash
Boo Boo Barackkk
Granny typical popsicle
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Say what you want , but if the press did not give Obama a free ride early on , he would not have the momentum to win the 11 straight primaries and thus would never have the flow of Super D and others endorsements coming his way . He should have been properly vetted like anyone else from the get-go but no , the press bought into this “Mesiah” craps that were fed to them by the Ultra-left until it is too late , stuffs about his 20 years associations with Wright who damned America from the pulpit , stuffs about his other preacher who mock Clinton , stuffs about his questionable home deal and fundraising rounds by convicted felon Tony Retzko, stuffs about his association with the terrorist Bill Ayers ..all those things should have been looked at properly in a presidential campaign had the press did its job , but NO , they sit back and treat Obama like royalties and handed him early victiries…What a sad election …EVer wonder why Obama lost in big state like CA, NY,PA,OH, TX ???Ever wonder why Obama lost the 5 of the last 6 primaries ??? Bill was right , this is the biggest FAiry Tale ever , but too bad , because of the lazy and ignorant press , we now got a racist for presidential candidate who time and again shows that he is willing to CHANGE Most of his Words just to get elected , who is about to cripple Public Campaign funding for his own polictical gain although he had pledged to support it …Wake up people , Obama is a liar and can not be trusted with anything , much less national security…
Posted by: alohaone | June 30, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
YEP that KOOL AID KING is definatley DAVE FROM TEXAS i told you hes not even old enough to vote your a sad kid KOOL AID KING mom should of taught you better than that
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Angie, you are RIDICULOUS! You must NEVER turn on your TV. Obama stated that his grandmother was a “typical white person”. Damn! Do your research! Reading these posts, you and Rodney are the most hateful, racist, bloggers I have ever seen. I even paid you a compliment about you teaching your children about how not to be racist, but you completely went over that point. It seems like you are even putting Obama before your children on here. I feel for you! You are completely dillusional and waaaaayyyyy over the top when it comes to Obama. You need to chill! Quit taking every comment personally!
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
angie
they can call me whitey all they want i will take no offense—–where is brigitte i need spelling lesson.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Rodney, go at it. Say what ever you care to. In 1988 or ’89 George Bush signed trade treaties with Mexico and Canada and it wasn’t passed until Bill Clinton became President and he had to honor the treaties and place them before Congress to be voted on. Yes, he supported it as any President would have at the time. Even if he had vetoed it, the Republicans would have had enough votes to over ride a veto. It has helped this Country but it needs to be revised to include safe guards such as equal wages, and environmental controls, etc. There is no way this Country or any other Country can close their borders completely when it comes to free trade. We just need to insure a more even trading rules.
Posted by: Mickey | June 30, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
carpe
you are proving that you are a typical white person—listen to yourself
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Angie, angie, when will those clouds all disappear?
Angie, angie, where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats
You cant say were satisfied
But angie, angie, you cant say we never tried
Angie, youre beautiful, but aint it time we said good-bye?
Angie, I still love you, remember all those nights we cried?
All the dreams we held so close seemed to all go up in smoke when Obama arrived.
Let me whisper in your ear:
Angie, angie, where will it lead us from here?
Oh, angie, dont you weep, all your kisses still taste sweet
I hate that sadness in your eyes
But angie, angie, aint it time we said good-bye?
With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats
You cant say were satisfied
But angie, I still love you, baby barack
Evrywhere I look I see your eyes
There aint a woman that comes close to you
Come on baby, dry your eyes
But angie, angie, aint it good to be alive?
Angie, angie, they cant say we never tried
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
mickey you are totally wrong on that one do your homework bush senion vetoed it slick willy sighned it
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Rodney, how am I a typical white person? You don’t know what race I am. I will not respond to you anymore…it’s past your bedtime! And, btw, its because of supporters like you, that Obama will lose in November. People like you and Angie make Independents run to McCain….they don’t want to be part of your hate-mongering…..both of you, need to grow up!
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
whats the matter carpe i telling you what i heard him say and sit there and tell me hillary and bill did not say the white vote over and over again and as far as picking obama over my children your crazy my children always come first leave my children out of it!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
mickey helped the country—where do you think our jobs have gone it totally devistated my area–took all the garment jobs to mexico we still have not recoverunless you call wallyworld a job.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
OH BY THE WAY CAPE I AM INDEPENDENT!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
angie
now you have attracted some kind of wantabe poet
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Rodney, you don’t know what you are talking about. Look it up and then tell me I’m wrong. Read the facts. Neither President passed it. Congress passed the bill. George Bush signed the treaty with Canada and Mexico and right now Bush is trying to spead it to South America and that will be voted into law by the Congress.
Know your facts Rodney before opening your big mouth.
Posted by: Mickey | June 30, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
oh man what will appear next
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
For your info : Angie unfortunately aborted 2 of her 4 babies when being under the influence of watching too much a slender black candidate and trying to write his name down a thousand times…after number 367 the first unborn baby died and after reaching the great number 665 , baby two died without having a chance to enter in to this wonderful Obama world
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Angie, go back to time out. I’m not wasting my thoughts or posting on you. You are dillusional. I feel sorry for people like you. One day, you will realize how utterly ridiculous you have been on these boards. I believe I read where you said you were 38. I feel pity for you, like so many others on here. It’s ok to support a candidate, but when you turn it into a personal attack on other bloggers, you need help. Many people on here are stating facts about Obama and you can’t handle it…..the truth hurts at times….and this is the time….Obama is a liar and will never be President. Seriously, it’s scary the way you get tooooo involved on here….I question you and your frame of mind. I don’t think I have EVER seen a blogger so emotionally involved in a campaign to the point that it clouds their thinking. You need to chill ….. I honestly am concerned for you.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
mickey
i had afit when he sighned it and when he had chinese sleeping in white house –lincolns bed i knew what was coming next
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
KOOL AID KING…..that post was uncalled for……I hope it is deleted.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
angie carpe is concerned about you that is hillarious….they can dish it out but cannot take a taste of their own act.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
i know rodney love the poetry great song too CAPE im sorry you feel that way but i dont feel im attacking any one im just simply responding to you sorry if i offended you!!
Posted by: ANGIE | June 30, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
I want to apologize to bloggers for my attacks. I really wanted Hillary to win!
Posted by: angie | June 30, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
I voted for Hillary on primaries,
but in general elections I WILL VOTE
FOR McCAIN.
Posted by: REDNECK | June 30, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Carpe
Sorry I didnt mean to hurt your feelings…being the product of an abortion myself I didnt know this would upset you…I just agree with all you wrote…Angie is a bit obsessed ..and I am obsessed with her .
KoolAid King the first
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
VANITY FAIR, who believes anything that is printed in that vile magazine.
They write solely negative articles about the Clintons, first about Bill last month and now about Hillary.
And it is always from a anonymous source, that gives that vile magazine liberty to say and print whatever they chose.
BOYCOTT VANITY FAIR, I understand it is practically in bankruptcy and they only sell magazine when the Clinton name is on the cover.
Posted by: TerryDo | June 30, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
angie.
ABC DELETES MY POSTS.
I DIDN’T OFFEND ANYBODY.
I WONDER WHY??????
Posted by: REDNECK | June 30, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
like i said earlier—–the boose and drugs are kicking in.carpe thanks for disapproving koolaid talking like deranged
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
TerryDO
What in the Hell are you talking about ???
This is between Rodney , Carpe Angie and I
PLease go to the next blog
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | June 30, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
now we have a living abortion what the hell is next.
Posted by: rodney | June 30, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
KOOLAIDE KING…..you didn’t hurt my feelings, I just don’t think its right to accuse someone of abortion in jist. As you can see, there is no love lost between angie and me, but I feel personal attacks are not what the candidates want thier supporters to do against each other. I’m not “holier than thou” by any means, I just think there should be some sense of boundaries that we shouldn’t cross in our postings. Peace.
Posted by: carpe' diem | June 30, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
thanks carpe but thats ok see the mentality of people like KOOLAID KING is the fear of my children having to grow up with people like that thats why i said this country has become quite sad we as american people are so divided it sucks and until we can come together in this great nation of ours unfournatley no president whomever it will be can turn this country around and i think thats why i support and respect obama because hes always saying divided we fail come together there is nothing we cant do and im sorry but i agree with him
Posted by: ANGIE | July 1, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
carpe’ diem: I did not know mental hospital allow patients to use the Internet. I strongly recommend you recommit yourself to your 12 step program of denial. You have seen way too many pantsuits, and take to many rounds of sniper fire.
Posted by: suv2001 | July 1, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Carpe
I agree with you
Angie
I beg for your forgiveness
Rodney
What can I tell you?
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Now, can we all cast an early bird vote for Barack Obama.
Forget the election process and let´s go make Angie proud , get her guy in the White House
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
well rodney we were having a very nice time before the negetivity showed up
Posted by: ANGIE | July 1, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
suv2001: Have I offended you? Why the insult?
Posted by: carpe' diem | July 1, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
angie and the rest of you goodnight and may the best candidate win—-i will vote democrat that is my privilage as it is yours to vote for whoever you think will serve your interests
Posted by: rodney | July 1, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
I’ve had enough of the insults. Goodnight to all, be safe! Maybe at another time, we can discuss the issues!
“Seize the Day” !
Posted by: carpe' diem | July 1, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Redneck
Love your persistance and I encourage you to continue bashing ABC…keep on bashing them until they declare Barack the best candidate there is
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
listen little children
i really apologize for my attacks i wanted hillary to win
quit using my name i have nothing to aplogize for
Posted by: ANGIE | July 1, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
good night rodney
Posted by: ANGIE | July 1, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Simply unbelievable!
Angie and Rodney, are you the gatekeepers tonight? What a whirlwind of nothingness.
Posted by: georgia | July 1, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
hey redneck; if you voted for hillary why would you vote for mccain a complete opposite to her isint that a little disrespectful to her thats like comparing her to him you ought to be ashamed hillary supporter
Posted by: angie
************************
Angie, you just do not get it so we Clinton supporters will explain it to you one more time.
In the primaries we voted for H.R. Clinton and against Obama.
Now in the General Elections we will do the same thing we did in the primaries vote against Obama.
Posted by: TerryDo | July 1, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Angie ( the unamed one)
In my world Hillary won …and all else is BS…what´s more never again a man won the presidency .
Hillary for President and Chelsea thereafter !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Terry Do
Now you are talking baby
Right on !!
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
TerryDO
What in the Hell are you talking about ???
This is between Rodney , Carpe Angie and I
PLease go to the next blog
Posted by: KOOLAID KING
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So now you are a dictator, trying to tell bloggers what to do. Who died and made you God. Stop drinking the Koolaid and if you do not appreaciate other peoples comments, just do not respond, or is that possible in your control freak world.
And by the way, my comments are referring to the actual article. Maybe you should read the article before you start blogging.
Posted by: TerryDo | July 1, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Georgia baby
I´m the gate keeper , toll man …pay me mo ..
Vote with your fingers tonite special
Angie for vicepresident !!!!!
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
TerryDo
I´m king of the hill, dictating dictatorship dictation for all of you.
Love Angie baby and want you be her Press Secretary ..cause you´r the man
you´r the man !
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
Hope all you Rednecks come to the victory party …where me and Angie gonna celebrate…all nite long
Angie for VP
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
I agree with you TerryDo. It’s unfortunate that the Angie, Rodney, Carpa Diem, Koolaid King characters hijacked a reputable blog to fill their boredom.
Posted by: Sue | July 1, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Vanity fair is trash man…why bother repeating it ??
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Day-o, day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Day-o, day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Work all night on a drink of rum
Barack come down and me wan’ go home
Stack banana till de morning come
Barack come down and me wan’ go home
Come, Mister obama man, obama me banana
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Come, Mister obama man, obama me banana
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Lift six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch
Barack come down and me wan’ go home
Six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch
Barack come down and me wan’ go home
Day, me say day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Day, me say day, me say day, me say day
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Beautiful bunch of ripe obama
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Hide the deadly black tarantula
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Lift six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Day, me say day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Day, me say day, me say day, me say day
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Come, Mister obama man, obama me banana
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Come, Mister obama man, obama me banana
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Day-o, day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Day, me say day, me say day, me say day….ay-ay-o
Daylight come and me wan’ go home
Posted by: KOOLAID KING | July 1, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Hillary did not win because there was a concerted efforts by the good ole boys club in the Democratic party, press, Barack Obama and others to thwart Hilary. She could not win over the SuperDelegates because many of them are sexists. How soon we forget!
This is the fact – believe it or not.
Posted by: Jkan | July 1, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
SEXISM WILL SATY IN THE MEDIA AND POLITICS…MY FAMILY IS SO SHAMEFUL OF THIS ARTICLE TO BE RELEASED IN VANITY FAIR’S AUGUST ISSUE AND IN THIS WRITE UP…CAN WE BE HUMANE AND PROFESSIONAL…HILLARY HAS TO BE APPLAUDED…LOKK AT WHAT OBAMA IS STAGING NOW, HIS SECOND ACTS OF LIES AND DECEPTION…WHO IS MORE TRUTHFUL AND LOVE AMERICA..IT’S HILLARY!!!
ARE YOU NOT INTRIGUED AND SCARE OF OBAMA AND HIS SUPPORTERS, HIS MONEY MACHINE…IT’S SO CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO HAVE OBAMA WIN BECAUSE OF THEIR HIDDEN AGENDA THAT WILL BE THE WORST OF AMERICA!!!
PRESIDENT CLINTON HAS HIS LEGACY AND WE SHOULD BE ASHAME OF TREATING HIM AS IF HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO US..ELEVATING OUR LIVES…
WHY DON’T YO LET THE CLINTONS LIVE PEACEFULLY….IS THIS WHAT OBAMA WANTS THE MEDIA TO BE!!!
Posted by: geo | July 1, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
It must be true if a pundit says it. I’m sick of all these folks playing Monday morning quarterback. Obama won by pure luck, starting with his stupid decision to pull out of Michigan, which miraculously he escaped any responsibility from, along with the failure of the media to vet the guy. If Hillary had a Reverend Wright on her campaign she would not have even been close to contention. Less than half of Democrats voted for Obama, so he had the luck of the corrupt caucuses as well. Hillary will be back in four years to run against McCain, though. Big blowhards like Richardson may try to crawl out of the woodwork again but they’ll have no standing after their participation in the Obama zombie nation.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 1, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
As subscribers to Vanity Fair for years (their coverage during the lead up to the Iraq war was fantastic–and honest), my wife and I cancelled our subscription last fall when it was clear they were completely biased toward Obama. This, like the Bill Clinton hit piece last month, is just over the top. What are they doing, having the author of “Passages” (about mid-life women’s transitions), Gail Sheehy, doing political reporting in their magazine??? What a joke.
The reason Hillary lost the nomination is because of the Rules and Bylaws Committee being willing to subvert democracy and the will of the people in order to push through the far-left wing of the Democratic Party’s candidate–BO. Having watched the entire 6 hours of the meeting, I emerged realizing that it’s all about the money in this country. Period.
Posted by: Steven Mac | July 1, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Hey Angie,
Try this — Obama met with the black caucus and stated to the members that Hillary called him a Muslim. This was a bald-faced lie. Hillary never did any such thing.
If lying about someone is not an act of disrespect then I wonder what is.
You Obama Zombies are all in denial. Stop drinking the coolaid, the guy is an empty suit and a joke.
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Obama, the architect of bittergate.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 1, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
PERHAPS ABC DOESN’T LIKE MY
ALIAS [REDNECK] AND DELETES MY POSTS.
ALL I SAID:
I VOTED FOR HILLARY ON PRIMARIES
BUT IN NONEMBER I WILL VOTE FOR
McCAIN……
DO I HAVE THE RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH????
FIRST AMENDMENT OF U.S CONSTITUTION..
Posted by: REDNECK | July 1, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
Well now,there you have it from the horses’ mouths or under their tails in a manner of speaking: The Clintons unwittingly sabotaged their own campaign. This happened because of their arrogance in believing that the nomination belonged to Hillary inspite of her constant cry about counting every vote: she knew that it was hopeless and instead of doing the right thing for the sake of the party, she attempted to destroy Senator Obama and the Party. When that did not work, she blamed SEXISM as stirred up some disgruntled women in an effort to boost her waning hope and destroy the party.
What a hard lesson in the baking of humble pie for Hillary. I hope she has mastered the art of humility
Posted by: exatlantic | July 1, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Bush ran a good campaign — look how he screwed the country. Campaign itself is not a good measure for presidential qualification.
Posted by: amy | July 1, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Exatlantic,
Arrogance, you want arrogance I’ll give you Obama’s bittergate. You want arrogance, I’ll give you Obama’s throwing of his grandmother under the bus, you want arrogance, I’ll give you Obama’s defense of Reverend Wright followed by his denunciation of Reverend Wright, you want arrogance I’ll give you Obama’s sweetie remarks, you want arrogance I’ll give you Obama’s entire zombie nation, yourself included. Look in the mirror, buddy, you are looking at purely unbridled arrogance. You’ll have your day soon.
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Obama, the choice of a zombie nation!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 1, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
How can this country when you have certain people getting richer and richr at the hands of the poor getting poorer. If i mage just 50,000 dollars a year i would consider my selt rich and until the people wake up and figure that there is no middle class anymore maybe things will change.
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | July 1, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
The democratic party is divided…
Nothing will unite the party……
I cannot wait to see the convention
in Denver.Half of the floor with Obama
and half with Hillary…..and outside
protests……..
Posted by: REDNECK | July 1, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Obama and his mobs tried to shut down the online blogs that are opposing his presidential candidacy. Taking about a good campaign — they can not afford people freedom of speech, they can not afford count every votes, and they can not win without DNC manipulate the votes. no obama.
Posted by: amy | July 1, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
–exatlantic–Don’t talk about the Clintons’ ‘art of humanity’. You definitely need the ‘art of honesty’ first. Anyone who has really researched why the election came out with Obama as the selected candidate will find that the DNC and the big money machine sabatoged the election. OK.
Posted by: Mary | July 1, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
JFK HAD MORE YEARS IN THE SENATE THAN BHO. LISTEN TO THE NEWS IT IS THE NEWSCASTERS THAT CALL THESE 2 PANDERS AND TO WHOM THEY PANDER, I AM WHITE AND VOTED FOR HILLARY AND WILL VOTE FOR HER IN NOVEMBER I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR MCBUSH AND IF BHO WANTS MY VOTE HE WILL TAKE HER AS HIS RUNNING MATE
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | July 1, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
NO, CLINTON’S PRESIDENTIAL BID WAS RUINED BY SUPERDELEGATES , PELOSI AND DEAN, KERRY,CARTER, RICHARDSON, DODD, MCGOVERN,EDWARDS ETC ETC—–LOSERS
ALL THEM BACKSTABBERS, JUDASES.
PELOSI LIED ABOUT PARTY RULES TO FAVOR OBAMA
DEAN TOLD SUPERDLEGATES TO PLEDGE B/4 END OF PRIMARIES.
SUPERDLELGATES ,CARTER, THE ANTI-CLINTONS GAVE OBAMA THE ELECTION..
END OF STORY.
QED
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Posted by: Prashant | July 1, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
I notice media still has to wash their hands by reharshing their truth, that Clintons are at fault for loosing.
Obama-campaign trashed the Clintons record, as he tries to trash McCain now. And the media, in love with Obama let him do it. Hiding he was no underdog: In fact Obama had tons of lobbyist money and superdelegates waiting in the wings.
Only after Texas did the press notice Clinton won elections, Obama won delegates. Finally somebody did their job and caught a taxi downtown to Chicago Trinity Church to buy a DVD and media, looking at more than the official Obama record. There was plenty to Wright-about. They were late.
Obama is the shame of the US media industry. Not everyone is like Cafferty, a playbook in the Obama-campaign. But for a critical time, media did the country a disservice.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | July 1, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
Al…you could make a list doubly long for Hillary so don’t go there. Plus, the church has nothing to do with politics. Remember, separation of church and state?
Posted by: militarymom | July 1, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
There will come a day where Hillary supporters will blame the Hillary camp for their candidate presidency bid demise.
The feelings are still raw so blaming Obama for her failures is quiet typical and understandable.
Obama’s message from day #1 was CHANGE. Hillary had no message until the ending of the primaries and with a message aiming towards the key demographics in the ending game resulted in a strong Hillary finish.
But the Hillary has much to blame on theirselves for their failures. Bill said certain things that didn’t help her cause. She said certain things that didn’t help her cause. Her chief strategist said certain things that didn’t her help cause.
Her entire campaign was BIG failure.
And for someone who’s been in a process as such and her husband to have succeeded… I’m baffled.
Hillary can only blame her failures on her over confidence; the “inevitable” nominee.
Posted by: Vanessa | July 1, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
I concur with Becky’s comments, Hillary’s followers should stop blaming everyone (Sen Obama, the media, etc, etc, etc) for her campaign failures. Hillary’s campaign imploded due to poor management and infighting among her senior staff. To all the Hillary supporters that say they will vote for John McCain, go ahead and waste your vote, you’ll get another 4 years of Bush. Wake up folks and vote for Sen Obama.
Posted by: whcjr46 | July 1, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Hillary Clinton did not loose- Hillary Clinton won millions of votes and supporters. We are still here- we have gone nowhere.What did Obama win? a chance to battle on. He will not win without the millions of Clinton supporters voting for him. It will be a very difficult battle winning over Clinton Votes. I will not vote for Obama unless Clinton is on the ticket.
Obama and his handlers does not hear me and millions like me.
Posted by: Jheckerman | July 1, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Granted, Hillary’s campaign was mismanaged in the beginning but I blame the DNC and the media for her loss. They and the party elite started calling for her to get out of the race early – and they kept it up all the way through; pressing the superdelegates to endorse the Chosen One. And the media!!! They were so in love with Obama it was pathetic; tingle-legs, comparisons to Abraham Lincoln, etc. They picked Hillary and Bill apart for every tiny little thing; yelling racism at every turn. The coverage was disgusting. I refuse to vote for Obama out of spite.
Posted by: disgusteddem | July 1, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
the fact of the matter is that obama, his supporters and the pundits played the race card maliciously and falsely when they implied that Senator Clinton had somehow disrespected MLK when she merely acknowledged the contributions to the Civil Rights Movement of LBJ…..shame on the hypocrites who have only themselves to blame for their inevitable failure in November
Posted by: chris | July 1, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
So funny how American forgets endless killling of thier people in Iraq as well as Iraq’s.You may not like Obama but must accept the facts that he is in a better position to create peace in the world.This will help America have better economy, reduce price of oil, prevent attack on America by it enemies etc.That is the change the world is expecting from this election and the only candidate that have that promise is Obama…….Mccain will continue the war and even create more…American be wise and vote the right person for a real change other wise you guys you guys will surely regrets it after words becouse it is your children that will surfer at the end.YOU CANNOT WIN THE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST, NEVER!!
Posted by: steve | July 1, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Angie – I was a Hillary supporter and I will vote for John Mccain. Like it or not. You sound like a pissed off person to me but you or anyone else will tell me who to vote for or why I shouldn’t. Obama is a fraud and won’t give two hoots about you afterwards so you just remember that.
Posted by: C Good | July 1, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
MilitaryMom – So why is Obama courting the religious groups today? He is such a hypocrite!!
Posted by: C Good | July 1, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Steve – no war is ever really won. Just peace negotiations until the next one breaks out. There will always be wars and someone to blame them on. As I remember everyone was gungho to attack after 911. So soon we forget. One thing I won’t forget is to vote for McCain because the Dem Party has no loyalty.
Posted by: C Good | July 1, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Gail Sheehy is a friend of the Clintons. I don’t see her blaming the loss (yes, a very, very close loss) on anything vaguely to do with the DNC, caucuses/primaries, Michigan/Florida or Obama.
Refreshing honesty.
I know there are more savvy people out there. They’re just not usually blogging here, I guess. Stop the blame game and move on. We’ve got a lot of important issues to fix in this country.
Posted by: loovill | July 1, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I actually feel a bit sorry for HRC. It must have been really hard to watch the dream slip through her fingers.
Posted by: Cynthia | July 1, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Lesson learned:
Do not count your chicken before they are hatched.
Think: One lost due to poor management.The winner is debt free- means he is a better candidate- gotta be realistic,eh! I cANNOT WAIT TO VOTE FOR AMERICA!
Posted by: chat | July 1, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
After reading all the above comments I conclude, the American people have become too ignorant to govern themselves. The Media elected Obama. I have never in my life wittnessed such blatant discrimination and baldfaced sexism and I pray to God I never do again. I can only assume that the media hung on every word spoken by Obama as is he were a rockstar, did so in order to pave the way for another Republican Coup. The same people who wouldn’t vote for a woman won’t vote for a black man and Viola, you’ve got Grandpa McCain. Try to remember the people who pay for all those advertising commercials are Republican and the commentators are simply puppets who do their bidding.
Posted by: Marjorie | July 7, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm