By Nitya

Jun 2, 2008 2:19pm

Clinton Campaign Shows Signs of Slowing

ABC News’ Kate Snow and Sarah Amos Report: For those reading the tea leaves, there are strong signs the Clinton campaign may be preparing for the end.

Late last night an email went out to advance staffers– the folks who usually prepare sites for future Clinton campaign events.  The memo indicated that there was nothing on Sen. Hillary Clinton’s schedule beyond a speech scheduled for the AIPAC conference on Wed morning in Washington.

The email told staffers this was not goodbye but there were no plans and therefore no locations where their services would be needed for now.

The campaign is giving those staff members, who are currently scattered from Puerto Rico to Montana and South Dakota, two options.  They can use a plane ticket to fly to NY for a party on Tuesday night where Clinton will address supporters.  Then, the email told them, they would be responsible for flying themselves home.  Or they can use the ticket to fly to their home base to await further instruction.

When/if something is planned, they will get a call, the memo said.

Campaigning in South Dakota, former president Bill Clinton admitted Monday could be the last time he has such an active role in presidential politics. 

"I want to say also that this may be the last day I’m ever involved in a campaign of this kind. I thought I was out of politics, ’til Hillary decided to run. But it has been, one of the greatest honors of my life to go around and campaign for her for president," said Clinton as he began his speech.

Watch the VIDEO HERE.

It was certainly not a long thought – nor something he seemed to want to dwell on. But for a man who has rarely shown even an inkling of defeat in the past year, even uttering the words said a lot.

Sen. Clinton will be based in Chappaqua Tuesday huddling with family and senior staff.  The event Tuesday night at Baruch College is the first time Clinton has spent a primary night in a state that is not voting or about to vote.

But even as Clinton’s campaign showed signs of slowing down, a Clinton campaign spokesperson came to the back of the press plane Monday afternoon as Clinton flew from Rapid City to Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

When asked about Clinton’s definition of when a nominee would be determined - because she has refused to accept the new 2,118 delegates number that the Democratic Party says is needed to clinch the nomination, spokesman Mo Elleithee said, "I think its pretty clear that she is not conceding," he said. 

"I think its pretty clear that she is staying in this race. She is going, in the coming days, to be aggressively courting uncommitted superdelegates aggressively courting unpledged delegates, making the case to them that she is a candidate best ready to take on John McCain."

When asked directly when Clinton will step aside, Elleithee told reporters, "as she has said dozens and dozens of times she is in this race until we have a nominee…Until there is a nominee she is going to try to win support."

He continued, "until there is a nominee we are going to still work to become that nominee."

User Comments

Obama is elected by the media, not the voters. Bear in mind, he could never “win” by big margin when viewed at the same negative comment the media mocks Hillary. After all, half of the Democrats voted for Hillary. So why the Obama people think they could speak on behalf of everyone?

Posted by: ivy | June 2, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

They don’t speak for everyone, ivy, just the majority.

Posted by: Texas Voter | June 2, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Come on people – she isn’t winning – she wasn’t ahead if you played by the rules that she had agreed to back when they were passing them – Obama is winning fair and square. So please don’t start saying he was given the nomination – he worked hard to get the votes – legally and by the rules – so no frowning faces – they both took a beating and only by uniting can the democrats come out ahead –

Posted by: jozy | June 2, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

ivy wtf are you tlaking about

Posted by: bhrandon | June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Contrary to the ‘Clinton spin’, Obama is well ahead in the popular vote – the VOTERS have chosen Obama…not the media.
In addition, it has been proven that the media did NOT treat Clinton unfairly…but they DID treat Obama less fairly because Clinton whined the media was being so unfair to HER!

Posted by: NanD | June 2, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Well, after Tuesday, where exactly would she be campaigning”…?
Her last gasp is to flip/strong-arm supers, which does not require a campaign apparatus per se.

Posted by: lestatdelc | June 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

I admire the strength and determination of this women. She is an inspiration to future generations. He can’t hold a candle to her. And now that it appears to be just about over, I can say with a clear head and with out anger, or disappointment, I will NEVER vote for Obama unless she is on the ticket with him. I WILL sit home.

Posted by: char19145 | June 2, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Dare to dream? I just won’t believe it until the words come out of her mouth. So many times I’ve expected her to do the right thing, only to be disappointed. But no matter how disgusted I’ve been by many of the Clinton tactics, I’m ready to embrace the whole lot of them with open arms. She can be VP, for all I care. I just want to win in November.

Posted by: JZ | June 2, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

It will be a relief to have her and her husband off the national stage for good, and the DLC dead as a door nail.

Posted by: Dave in ME | June 2, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

lestatdelc, I can understand your disappointment. I’m a middle-aged woman who remembers being told I couldn’t have certain jobs because “they were looking for a guy”.
I would have happily voted for Hillary Clinton. She didn’t get the votes. I would vote for almost any democrat for president rather than subject my country to another 4 years of republican rule. Do you think the country will be better off under McCain?
Consider that Clinton and Obama are very close on their policy positions, and McCain if very far away from what Clinton stands for.

Posted by: EL | June 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Hey char19145 you would have strenth and determination if you we 20 mil
in debt.Better grap a pillow and get comfy..Cause you will be sitting home
watching HISTORY
OBAMA landslide doesn’t need your
woooooo clear headed vote

Posted by: Ed in Maryland | June 2, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

She should have shown class like Huckabee and dropped out when the handwriting was on the wall.

Posted by: southamco | June 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Dave -
Clinton will not be leaving the national state. Why do you Obama has already started sucking up to her. He needs her if he stands a chance of winning in November.
Don’t be surprised if he offers her the VP. Don’t know if she will take it but he will offer it.

Posted by: Kris | June 2, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

I have nothing against a woman president but I just don’t have the trust of Hillary and hate the idea Bill back in white House. the other canidates gave their health reports but Hillary never did. she was also having to many ‘senior moments’ and Bill backs her

Posted by: wilhelmina78 | June 2, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

southamco, actually Huckabee didn’t drop out for quite a while after the handwriting. As I recall, the pundits and the late night comedians mocked him for it.

Posted by: EL | June 2, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

charl9145:
“And now that it appears to be just about over, I can say with a clear head and with out anger, or disappointment, I will NEVER vote for Obama unless she is on the ticket with him. I WILL sit home.”
To any objective reader, the second half of this sentence puts the lie to the first half.
(Just thought you might like to know that internal contradiction in a statement negates it entirely – something your candidate never learned either – but good to know for future reference.)

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | June 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

He will NOT offer her the vee p she is finished in the white house.People don’t want Billy anywhere near it.She went behind closed door when Bill was there what makes you think she won’t do it again …She is on trail for fraud…Honest you are blaming everyone but the right person Hilly lost itherself…..

Posted by: white fem voter | June 2, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

ed in maryland…I will be home. They didn’t want my vote the first time, I’ll be damned if they get it this time.

Posted by: char19145 | June 2, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

I am so confused about how anyone can think Clinton has be treated unfairly. A lot of this she did to herself with the lies she has told at every corner. It is time for a change and I am ready to go. I actually voted for Hillary but as the months went forward and realize how dirty she could be I changed my mind alone with a lot of other people. Hillary, just let it go and get on board with the change to come. OBAMA! OBAMA!

Posted by: V of Atlanta | June 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

I’m 76 years old, a woman and white. While I would like to have seen a woman become president in my lifetime, I cast my vote for Obama. I admire Hillary. She has guts and determination. However, she also represents same old, same old, politics as usual. We don’t need that; we need a president who looks forward, not backward and at this time and place, that person is Obama.
All of you Hillary supporters who are threatening to stay home or vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination are only hurting yourselves and all other Americans who are sick and tired of the Bush administration because if McCain is elected, we’ll be stuck with 4 more years of Bush politics.
Better you should support Hillary as she will support Obama. Their policy objectives are very similar. Whether they share the ticket remains to be seen; what is important is that all registered Democrats present a united front, at the convention and on Nov. 4th.

Posted by: nanameow | June 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Sorry char19145..Just something about
that couple just don’t set well..
Settle down ..be calm..I guess we all should be up in arms about an energy
policy none of them has…Gas prices
here $3.97 Diesel $4.13…Grab a Beer
before it gets turned INTO BIO-FUEL

Posted by: Ed in Maryland | June 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

I have to admit, I have a hard time understanding the Hillary supporters who care more for HER than they do their country.
The party has a system in place for nominating its presidential candidates. Those who gather the most delegates… not the most popular votes… win the nomination.
Obama won. If Hillary had won through legitimate means, I would vote for her. She didn’t. She lost.
It wasn’t sexism. It was a choice between two very good, very strong candidates.
There needs to be a lot less whining from Hillary supporters. You need to get over yourselves, your hurt feelings, and realize what McSame will do to THE THINGS YOU CARE ABOUT if you stay home.
Your kids will continue to go to Iraq to be killed — for nothing. Is it worth “sitting home and pouting” if one of your kids has to pay the ultimate price?
Do you think McSame will appoint Supreme Court justices who give a rat’s patootie about womens’ issues? Is your anger over Hillary losing worth the lives of women who will die in back alley abortions when Roe v. Wade is overturned?
Get over yourselves. America didn’t lose. YOU didn’t lose. Your CANDIDATE lost, and she lost fairly and squarely.
Now dry your tears, and get on the phone and support the candidate who will work for YOU! Not the one who will work AGAINST you.

Posted by: HunkyDunk | June 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Obama does not have the majority of Democrats, actually he carries only the AA vote and some college freshmen. He will not have the support of Democrats in the GE. He is unelectable. Write Hillary on the ballot. We may have to wait for 2012, but Obama does not have a chance.

Posted by: libre | June 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

We’re in better shape as democrats than if the opposite had happened and Hillary were winning a closely contested victory over Obama tomorrow. If that were the case, dems would be totally dispirited. This we’ll be able to recover from and win in Nov. Finally!

Posted by: Dem in Chicago | June 2, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Obama will be an ILLEGITIM nominee. Michigan voted for Hillary not Obama!!!

Posted by: Bridget | June 2, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

LISTEN LADIES AND GENTLEMEN COMING FROM A HILLARY SUPPORTER AND ME BEING A WOMAN ITS OVER IT WAS A GOOD PRIMARY I GIVE BOTH CANIDATES RESPECT I DONT FEEL SEN OBAMA STOLE ANYTHING FROM HILLARY BUTS ITS TIME TO COME TOGETHER AND SUPPORT OBAMA AND IM SAD HILLARY LOST BUT I WILL NOT NEVER VOTE MCCAIN OUT OF SPITE OR ANGER I KNOW IF I DO THAT THE DAY WILL COME I WILL REGRET THAT NOW ALL YOU DEMOCRATS OUT THERE MEN OR WOMAN COME LETS GO UNITE SUPPORT OBAMA AND KEEP THE REPUB OUT AS WELL AS MCCAIN COME ON ITS OUR YEAR!!!

Posted by: angie | June 2, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Ed in Maryland…See that’s just it, the COUPLE wasn’t running, Hillary was. Just like Obama was running, not his wife. But the media picked who THEY wanted, and went for the jugular of the other. So, I feel how I feel. Now, pass the Bud-Light.

Posted by: char19145 | June 2, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

No one speaks for me. I do not want Obama for president and if he is elected it will not be because of a vote from me. Clinton is my choice – has been from the start and will continue so. McCain is just a continuation of Bush. Get out and vote – write in Clinton’s name in November.

Posted by: dixiecharms | June 2, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Clinton Can Slow down. Never Quit.
The Majority of the Democratic voters chose Clinton. She is the only one Who can beat McCain.
That means They have serious Objections with Obama and with him ever being coming president.
Obama is a National Security threat.

Posted by: seah | June 2, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Voters in the November General Election are technically voting for the Presidential elector candidates, not directly for the candidates for President and Vice-President. Therefore, in order to be a write-in candidate, a person must have the required write-in presidential elector candidates file papers pledging themselves to the presidential candidate. – Just thought I’d provide that for the wing-nuts who won’t vote for “so and so” but would be content with leaving this country in the hands of the loonies. But then I strongly suspect they voted for George W. Bush in the first place and that speaks volumes. If it were Clinton rather than Obama in totals tally I’d rather swallow horse dung than vote for someone who will certainly appoint to the Supreme Court the final vote to overturn Roe v Wade and who certainly will continue the fiscal policy of this Administration. And folks whether anyone wants to admit it or not, Obama, Clinton, McCain nor anyone else I don’t think will come close to solving the problems in 4 years – the damage by GWB is so overwhelming we’ll be in shock by December.

Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | June 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

WHY would McCain put Hillary on his ticket, because when asked last Monday about what is happening with Hillary Clinton he said words to the effect that she NEEDS to grow up, and didn’t McCain also make some very disparaging remarks about the way Chelsea Clinton looked–in essence calling her ugly? I’m wondering WHY the Clinton supporters who go after Obama WON’T go after McCain for HIS disparaging remarks about his wife–calling her a cu*t, and calling Chelsea Clinton ‘ugly.’
Humm, McCain Doesn’t sound like a man who LOVES women to me.

Posted by: Tammi_J | June 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Man there are going to be a lot of people from here eating crow when Hillary tells all her supporters on Wed. morning to throw their support to Obama and not mc-more-war. I hear it does taste better with a little mustard. Obama 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | June 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Once again this is not a team sport. The media is in a self serving position, bought and paid for and their viewpoints are unfortunately forced on the public to sway belief. Listen to your heart not the news. Do what’s best for the country not the party.

Posted by: p | June 2, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Is it over? Yes. It was over weeks and weeks ago.

Posted by: FilmMD | June 2, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Guess after Tuesday night. I’ll enjoy my summer and Fall, with a total media blackout, because I have no interest in the Dog and Pony show that the DNC will have her and Bill Perform and I’ll tune back in on November 4th, for the results of my vote to McCain, it’s been real. I for one will be letting the media know that I don’t appreciate them pushing Obama down my throat and will have a total media Blackout and I will let he DNC know that I don’t appreciate it with a Convention Black out and let the Obamabots argue amongst themselves with a total Blogging Blackout and I’ll be back on November 4th

Posted by: Kim | June 2, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Ivy,
Last time I checked, majority ruled! It’s over Tuesday night not matter what discomfort you might have with the outcome. Anyone who is familiar in business knows that you can make numbers say anything, especially when you ignore all the numbers and only use those that give you the advantage. Remember, the Clinton camp thought this process would be over on Feb 5th, did you all not think that? You had no plans after that date, so why should you be allowed to lead this Nation when you can not even manage your campaign?

Posted by: Greg285 | June 2, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets hope that she and her husband won’t support McCain. Some of her followers maybe vote for McCain, but that’s ok, they are stupid losers anyway, we don’t need them.

Posted by: jasonlv | June 2, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Don’t worry about the people who say they will vote for McCain. They’re in the anger stage right now. They’ll be well into acceptance by November.

Posted by: bocawayne | June 2, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Ivy, the Clinton’s are finished. Get use to that. Most people, the media, and the majority of people outside of the democratic party have known this for a long time. Only about 45% of democrats like her. That means that 55% of the democrats do not like her. And ask yourself why!
It’s not because she is a woman. It’s not because Barrack Obama is black. It’s because all the Clinton’s know what to do is spin, lie, and flip fop. And NEVER admit they were wrong or apologize.
Hillary has run her campaign like a very desperate desperate and crazy person. Don’t forget that before any of the debates. before Hillary spoke in public, she was favored. Then it happened, she started talking!
So don’t blame any one accept Hillary and Bill Clinton!

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

I’m salivating at visualizing Hillary step into line and take her position in the rear of the Democratic formation.
This is going to be great material for the new Political Science classes that’ll be taught after Obama’s inauguration in January. CLASSIC!
ATENNNNN HUTTTT! Back of the line Private Clinton!
Boy, has she been demoted.

Posted by: Nat Turner | June 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

There was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq until we went then and opened up the borders. Iran was a power but it was contained by Iraq. Sadam was a dictator with evil crazies related and working with him but his people didn’t live in the hell that exists now or over the past few years.
Aside from the over 4,000 dead and tens of thousands of US troops injured–let alone their “uninjured” relatives the flawed invasion has other costs.
One other example of the economic burden of the flawed invasion of Iraq. Our military presence in Iraq alone accounts for almost 10% of US consumption. Summarized from AP:
The U.S. consumes about 21 million of the world demand of 86 million barrels of oil per day.
The Defense Department is the nation’s single largest user of energy. At 1.6 million gallons a day in Iraq, the war alone accounts for over 7.6% of US demand. If we were to account for total military, let alone government usage we would be over 10% at least.
Getting out of Iraq would cut our consumption almost 10% and likely cut prices too. Iraq is guaranteed consumption at this point.
THANK YOU JOHN McCAIN

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | June 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

ivy said, “Obama is elected by the media, not the voters.” Uhhh, no, actually, I, and most everyone I know voted for Obama. He won 2x the number of states Clinton did, and he’s got more of the popular vote. If anything, the media is helping keep Clinton’s failed campaign alive.

Posted by: Eric | June 2, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

So the media “proved” that the media didn’t treat Clinton unfairly. That’s rich. Cnn and MSNBC have been in the tank for Obama from the beginning.Cnn airs Obama’s regularly scheduled speeches to fit his agenda or to explain why he had to explain why he had to explain….why. Cnn makes slanted commentary daily. Cafferty rolls his eyes and gafaws every Clinton victory or positive story. And the only blog comments aired are negative Clinton comments or positive Obama comments.I no longer watch CNN.It’s sickening. And then there’s Olberman’s ranting.Not once, but twice.No ranting about Obama’s racist view or pandering.Or his recently leaving his church. Not for political purpose, of course.Chris Mathew’s salavitates every time Obama’s name is mentioned and can barely contain himself.And Russert looks like he’s going to cry every time Clinton has a victory, because he has to think of something clever to say to down play them. And they pass this crap off as news. Now Bill Clinton has a rage problem…coincidentily the same time Obama has another “preacher” problem. Who are they going to deflect to when Clinton’s out of the picture.That’s why the dust-up after the last debate.Charley and George were the only ones that even asked him any tough questions.You’d thought the sky was falling. Wait till the general debate. Once Clinton concedes, I give the RNC a week before they cremate Obama.

Posted by: Bea | June 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

I should have posted my 3:49:18 PM reply to ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS, rather than just Nat Turner.
I have yet to see an Obama supporter who is doing anything to advance the cause of his candidate, citing his accomplishments.
All I ever see Obama supporters doing is trashing former First Lady /Sen. Clinton; and crowing about Obama ‘winning’ the nomination.
As I said, you all do your candidate a great disservice, as he will need Hillary’s supporters in the fall election. You are doing nothing to try to dissolve the anger; you are only rubbing salt in the wounds.
You will likely have to pay for it when your candidate loses because so many angry Clinton supporters decide to vote for McCain.

Posted by: Red in Denver | June 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Red in Denver – Obama still leads Clinton by 10 points in national polls, so there is no indication that he would lose if we did it all again. Best 3 out of 5?

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

This headline is OFF. I was just reported from her headquarters that she is NOT CONCEDING TOMORROW. The whole delegate COUNT IS WRONG.
THIS GOES to the CONVENTION. She can slow down one day, OBAMA goes on vacation (AKA BUSH) often enough.

Posted by: mj | June 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Hellary is trying to make a case for herself by saying she has gotten more votes than any candidate in history?
News flash to the beeatch: It does NOT mean anything! For starters, doesn’t the beeatch realize that there are more people on this planet than ever before? That THAT means there are more people in the U.S. as well? And how about all the huge class of boomers, young voters, and old pharts who refuse to die off as they did in the past?
So Hellary, It means nothing. Take your spin machine and go back to Arkansas. And take the randy old Billy Goat with you. Chelsea too. And do a little sould searching, get over it, and do what’s right for your country.
Hell hath no fury like a Hellary scorned (by the voters). !!!

Posted by: Claudean | June 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

I voted for Hillary. And, Hillary may very well recommend as a Democrat that I vote for Obama. She is a Democrat; I am a Democrat. However, I do not like Obama or McCain, so she will not get her wish. However, McCain has one great plus point, his age. He may not last 4 years which would mean we could get someone better than either one. I am waiting to see who his VP will be. As long as it is not an idiot like Mike Huckabee, then I’ve got a chance on being lucky.

Posted by: Paul | June 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

I feel something near pity for the Obama folks that think Clinton supporters are just mad.
I’m not mad; more like disgusted with the Democrat party. As long as I am in my right mind, I will never vote for a racist (no matter their color) and I will never NOT vote.
I can take McCain…..I’m not of child bearing age, and Roe v Wade does not scare me. Though I would prefer to choose whether to have an abortion, I know I could never choose TO have one…so that don’t scare me. Our do nothing Congress is more dangerous than McCain.
So, if no Clinton, it’ll be Republican for me.

Posted by: dotindixie | June 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

It’s just sad DNC ignore millions voices of voters.
They think these voters will stay with democrat in November.
You’ll never know.

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Bea,
Not so fast. Look who the republicans picked for their nominee. A guy that’s too OLD and too connected to bush/cheney. Why do you think they didn’t let cameras into the mc-more-war/bush fund party??? I would also like to know what took so long for mc-more-war to denounce the hagee endorsement. The ever-important Catholic vote may have something to say about that this November. Obama 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | June 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Red in Denver – I defend Clinton as strongly as I do Obama, when the attacks are unfair. I still like them both. It is too bad someone has to lose, but we really do have to come up with just one nominee eventually.

Posted by: jock59801 | June 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

What about a independint for Hillary????

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

So you people who insist that Hillary was robbed by the fact Michigan broke the rules and Hillary is happy to take as many delegates as she can possibly get… you who think somehow because she got votes and a candidate who wasn’t on the ballot as part of the response to the breaking of the rules… you rant about how “the people” didn’t elect her and it’s “undemocratic”, but are you going to pretend for a second that the Michigan primary was “democratic” in the first place? The state broke the rules, couldn’t accept the agreement they’d made, and the result is the whole Michigan vote is flawed, as well as Florida (but worse).
And secondly, those who insist they’ll never vote for Obama, how much support can you really have for Hillary if you won’t even support her when she jumps full steam behind Obama? If you trust her judgement, how can you insist you’d rather throw the presidential race to McCain than stand behind Hillary?
Unless you have a problem with Obama not being the “presidential race”.

Posted by: chet | June 2, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

The flawed logic of the Clinton campaign. (actually they know full well what they’re doing. They’re just the masters of spin.)
She is only ahead in the popular vote if you count all the primaries and count every Michigan vote for her while giving 0 to Obama from the whole state.
I’m thinking there must be a good number of voters who voted “uncommitted” but wanted to vote Obama.
Also, to only count the popular vote leaves all the states that held caucuses out in the cold.
Also, the compromise to seat the delegates from MI and FL at half value is more than fair. If the DNC didn’t punish them someway there would be no deterrent to keep this from happening in the future.
Also, for all of the Hillary supporters who are threatening to vote for McCain because the MI and FL delegates were granted half-votes, you don’t know the facts.
The Republicans also punished the states by stripping half their delegates, the same thing the Democrats are doing. So there is no difference between the Republicans and Democrats when it comes to the delegates from MI and FL.
Let us Democrats come together to stand up against McCain and more of the same.
Obama 08

Posted by: Topher | June 2, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

I just have to sit back and laugh. A leader is a leader because of their ability to respect their followers. Clinton lost that respect a long time ago. If it wasn’t for her and Bill’s money they would have lost this primary a long time ago. Obama has found a way to inspire children to elders. That inspiration has generated tons of funding for his campaign. The ones that will not vote for Obama or will sit home are the ones that don’t want change and they don’t want to change they way the are themselves. In November all these people will see that you can’t stop a movement of this size and magnitude unless there is a better movement or better idea.

Posted by: Mark | June 2, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Clinton supporters will be right here campaigning for Mccain. Obama is done for he will lose in the general election and go back to Chicago. The DNC must like to lose elections.

Posted by: s4bo | June 2, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Hellary is trying to make a case for herself by saying she has gotten more votes than any candidate in history?
News flash to the beeatch: It does NOT mean anything! For starters, doesn’t the beeatch realize that there are more people on this planet than ever before? That THAT means there are more people in the U.S. as well? And how about all the huge class of boomers, young voters, and old pharts who refuse to die off as they did in the past?
So Hellary, It means nothing. Take your spin machine and go back to Arkansas. And take the randy old Billy Goat with you. Chelsea too. And do a little soul searching, get over it, and do what’s right for your country.
Hell hath no fury like a Hellary scorned (by the voters). !!!
Corrected spelling in next-to-last para.

Posted by: Claudean | June 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Ivy, the reason they can speak for all democrats is that Obama is ahaed in the nomination process (news flash). same way our president speaks for all of us (regardless of which president) when roughly half the people did not put him in office. It is called a majority (of delegates).

Posted by: pondering | June 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Bea I disagree, up until two months ago, the media was treating Obama with padded white gloves and trashing Hillary at every turn. Only after the Ayers/Wright incident did the media finally started pointing out the negatives from Obama, mind you the Wrights videos were out for almost 1 year before the main stream media caught up, by then it was too late for Hillary… but it’s not too late for McCain. Women are angry with the sexism this country has exhibited and we are not going to allow the media or the Democratic party leaders tell us who to vote for anymore.

Posted by: Carmen | June 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

You only need half (50%) plus 0.000001% to become the majority votes and winner takes all. So Obama can win and all the Democratic states plus some southern states and western states.

Posted by: Charles Lam | June 2, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Carmen – “up until two months ago, the media was treating Obama with padded white gloves” – Are those what they use in an asylum?

Posted by: jmengate | June 2, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Red In Denver,
I agree with you that it doesn’t benefit Obama to put down Senator Clinton. But I think Clinton’s supporters had their share of rude comments toward Obama and his supporters. I guess that’s the nature of the beast–the primary has been a unique experience to all of us and has brought out our passionate and irrational side. We now need to move forward and unite to defeat our common opponent-McCain. I agree 100% with you, neither Obama nor Clinton would/could win the election in November without the other’s supporters. Shall we keep the bigger picture in mind and stop bickering once and for all?

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | June 2, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

After tuesday?
For sure, don’t beg Hillary’s endorsement and her supporters support.

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

UNDISPUTED FACTS:
1. Hillary won in 17 large, mostly BLUE states (and 297 electoral college votes) Democrats have any realistic chance of winning %u2013 Arizona (10), Arkansas (6), California (55), Nevada (5), New York (31), New Jersey (15), Texas (34), Tennessee (11), Ohio (20), Florida (27), Michigan (17), Pennsylvania (21), Kentucky (8), New Mexico (5), Massachusetts (12), West Virginia (5), Indiana (11), Rhode Island (4), and Puerto Rico (Commonwealth).
2. She already proves she can take 297 electoral votes. To become president you need only 270.
3. These mostly BLUE states have the majority of the Electoral College votes – which determines the presidency.
4. Unfortunately, Obama won in mostly RED states where mostly GOP out number democrats 3:1 – so it”s Gore, Kerry, and McGovern all over again. Even if Obama could win there – it”s only 199 electoral votes.
Therefore, as we much as we once respected Obama, until he didn’t offer Hillary the VP spot to unify the party, he is not going to beat McCain.
The true majority that matters most is who will win the National election and not a primary.

Posted by: Joshua | June 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

HA the media has given him a free ride CNN MSNBC FOX how can you say they haven”t He never answered rev wright or Bill AIRES he cheated off of hillary in the debates and he never had to explane Mr. CHANEYS energy bill he says Change and people say yaaa when he doesnt even represent it

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Red in Denver…………
You said a mouthful! I am one of those Hillary Clinton supporters and I must say that Obama’s supporters are not doing a thing to bring unity to the party. The only they are interested in is the “Prom King” winning his crown!
I am an Africa-American and I’ve never seen such an example of reverse racism as I’ve seen during this campaign. Obama has been shoved down our throats and glorified on every network as if he’s the Jesus resurrected! I will not vote for an inexperienced candidate who has never governed or run a business of any kind. Obama has no real platform to offer other than “CHANGE” and “YES WE CAN”. I have no intentions on voting for John McCain, so I’m excersing my right by NOT VOTING AT ALL in November.
This entire campaign has made me sick to my stomach. I hope Obama and his “followers” are pleased. The country is divided even more!

Posted by: Eric | June 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Clinton was done a long time ago. Now we get to see the real fight. Obama can’t last another 5 months when all he does is talk trash. People are going to start asking him about the real problems this country is in and he has NO ANSWERS. The man is a complete fraud. He only got this far because the media is in love with him.
McCain ’08

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

The reason the DNC is so much behind Obama is because they are afraid blacks are going to riot… because that’s what they do when they don’t get what they want… they are uncivilized!
Are they also going to riot when he looses to McCain? Maybe the RNC should give up now and save their money.

Posted by: Don | June 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

I wish people would stop hating Obama and Hillary. They are both Democrats. We need to support who ever gets the DEM nomination. I don’t have a problem voting for a woman and I don’t have a problem voting for a person of mixed race. You cannot get into heaven with hatred in your heart. Those of you who are hating Hillary because she’s a woman and hating on Obama because he’s not 100% white will die one day a burst hell wide open. I’d rather you all not vote if you plan to vote for McCain instead. The Democrats need to unite behind the nominee thats wins. Otherwise, you are plucking out your eye to spite your face and you’re hurting no one but yourself.

Posted by: Detour4 | June 2, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Nat Turner I totally agree with you! It’s in the air! CHANGE is coming! There is nothing McRelic can do about it!
OBAMA 2008

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Dear Clinton Supporters:
All this talk of voting for McCain or sitting home out of spite is despicable. Obama won the electorate fair and square. Florida and Michigan broke the rules established in part by Clinton’s political strategist, Harold Ickes. How can you argue her votes were fair when both Edwards and Obama agreed not to campaign in either of those states based on the DNC ruling? I also don’t think it would be fair to have Obama forced into taking Hillary as his VP. His message is about change and she has pulled out all the stops to try to dismantle him….would you want someone like that looking over your shoulder while you’re in office? Please swallow your pride and do what is best for DEMOCRATS and yourself– vote for Obama in November. (And I sincerely hope racism has nothing to do with some of the no-vote comments-he is more than qualified for the post)

Posted by: Scot in PDX | June 2, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Carmen, I understand the discontent of many women with the current situation. The problem is that just because many woman want a particular candidate, that in and of itself does not qualify a candidate. HRC has pushed bills in Congress that have named post offices, given props to college teams from new york state etc. If you want to be known for your experience, then actions speak louder than words. She is not anymore qualified than Obama, and her arrogance got her to where she is. She should have had this race wrapped on super tuesday, instead, she lost it on super tuesday. if you want to point to Obama’s associates and blame him for their comments or actions, then be careful because HRC’s are not any better (see Bill Clinton).

Posted by: pondering | June 2, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Nat turner, Obama may have won the primary but McCain is going to chew him up and spit him out. The kids game is about over with, and with the help of Clinton’s supporters this is going to be ugly for you. Savor today Nat, because your happy days are soon going to be a distant memory.

Posted by: billy bob | June 2, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

US Clinton supporters dont like obama because he is a lier and not a realist

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

The primary elections will end Tomorrow and since no one got the required “pledged” delegates to secure the nomination, get some rests people and we will hear each other again in August for the official voting of the Superdelegates at the Denver Convention.
For the meantime, let us see if the GOP slime machines will release their attack videos on Obama before the convention.

Posted by: Nicholas | June 2, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

This is interesting. “they can use the plane ticket to fly to the base of operations, or use their own money to fly home.”
I sense an Independent run.

Posted by: Darryl | June 2, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

I think Clinton should be congradulated. Over 17mil votes is quite a feat. Her and Obama are so close in popular votes. I think she is great and even though I am an Obama supporter I would have gone for Clinton also. I hope Obama will include her in his plans as she would be a great asset to his administration.I hope the Clinton supporters can one day realize that Obama also ran a great campaine and wasnt given anything beyond maybe the 4 delegates that belonged to Clinton. It is great to see a woman and African American get so far. Both women and African Americans have helped build this country and its about time they were reconized. Thanks Hillary for a fantastic campaine. Obama 08

Posted by: CW | June 2, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Obama bought his nomination. He outspent every candidate in history on tv ads, didn’t he? Not only that, he got a ton of free publicity from the liberal media. The most liberal leaning senator in congress used good old American capitalism and corporate media to win his nomination.

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Good words BILLY BOB. Obama has no chance in the GE. The man has NO POLICIES!!!!!!! You only like him because he gives good (prepared) speeches. Just for the record he only sounds good because he pauses CONSTANTLY when he speaks. Have you idiots not noticed that???

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Concede, Hillary, the people have spoken.

Posted by: Johnny Morris | June 2, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

C. Higman–
I am very qualified to vote in this election. It is clear who is the best candidate for President too. If you want John McCain for president, go ahead and vote for him. Who cares? Barack Obama would love to have your vote, but at the end of the day, he can live without you, or your whining, pouting colleagues.

Posted by: FilmMD | June 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Idependent Hillary 08

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Bridget | Jun 2, 2008 3:30:53 PM
“Obama will be an ILLEGITIM nominee. Michigan voted for Hillary not Obama!!!”
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libre | Jun 2, 2008 3:32:28 PM
“Obama is anti-Democrat, he blocked the will of the people. The DNC stole the Michigan’s voters decision.”
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Please enlighten me, I thought Michigan didn’t hold an primary. At least, that’s what we voters in Michigan were led to believe.
Are you referring to the unsanctioned Michigan “primary” held in violation of DNC rules on January 15, 2008?
If you look at the MI ballot from January 15, 2008, You’ll note one – rather signifcant – name isn’t listed as a choice.
The primary WAS unsanctioned, Obama had no reason to participate in what was basically only a STRAW POLL. As a STRAW POLL, Michigan’s unsanctioned “primary” only gives us a rough idea of what preferences MIGHT have been if an official, sanctioned primary HAD been held.
Michigan unequivocally, categorically DID NOTE vote for Hillary in a primary. There was no primary. Michigan voted for Hillary in a straw poll, a straw poll that did not have Obama as a choice. The DNC cannot steal a decision that was NEVER in fact made.
Note: Many voters (myself included) took the DNC at its word, and did not go to the polls on January 15,2008. Since it was not an authentic vote, the results of January 15,2008 CANNOT be said to genuinely reflect the will of Michigan Democrats.
We’ll NEVER know what that might have been.

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

NoMoreLies *** You’re so right! CHANGE IS COMING! For once, an African American will lose the Democratic nomination.

Posted by: C. Higman | June 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

White fem voter,
I wish she refuses to become his VP.
Why would the VP so much smarter and better than the president himself.

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Whining doesn’t work NAT??? How did Obama beat Hillary then??? I didn’t hear him talk about the issues once. All he does is say change change change change. I want to know how.

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Susan
Obama did not buy the nomination his supporters did. Hillary tried to buy the nomination with her 11 million dollars, it just wasn’t enough to outweigh the support Obama has.

Posted by: Mark | June 2, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Andrew, you call HRC a realist? the same person that will pull the troops out of Iraq in a year (lol)? and who refuses to throw in the towel in the face of everything telling her she lost already?

Posted by: pondering | June 2, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

It was another right wing conspiracy that got Obama nominated over Hillary. First, they infiltrated all of the caucus states to ensure things went Obama’s way there. Next, they doctored the tapes and changed all the evidence to hide the fact that poor Hillary actually had been in combat, and did not misspeak. Finally, they paid off key media outlets to play up Hillary’s shortcomings while hiding Obama’s. Even Bill was bought off to infuriate key constituent groups while pretending to campaign for her. Why did they do it? Maybe they thought Obama would be easier to beat. Probably, they are all a bunch of sexists. We’ll never know everything, as the conspirators are very good – look how they made Bill look like a womanizer in the past. So don’t think for a minute that Obama won fairly. He was just not targeted by the conspirators – this time.

Posted by: ConspiracyTheorist | June 2, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Obama is just another politician that loves lobbyest he can give a good speech but lets look at his work in the senate not impressive at all I think you should listen to the sean hannity show!!!!!!

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

You stand up to a bully, if anyone can, she can.
The Dems Superdelegates may decide Obama. I for one think they should declare their vote in the open. You cannot have democracy without transparancy.
It’s no good having Al Gore or Jimmie Carter go to Hillary and tell her to quit. It’s shameful. Donna Brazil sat too long at the studio in CNN with an uncommitted label to keep that couchy tv-job. We saw how her face turned green whenever good Hillary numbers came through, and we saw her vote in that farce of a Rules Committee. Theft, it’s what it was.
Superdelegates must tell us what they voted, and why? From where we sit there is nothing saying Clinton didn’t beat Obama on issues, merits and character.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

She let her ego get in the way and anointed herself the next president. She never expected to have a formidable opponent, and instead of rising to the challenge she showed what a whiny crybaby she is. It’s funny how she never cried sexism when she was ahead in the polls, and how she was okay with Michigan and Florida’s punishment until she needed their votes. She’s the reason she lost. She doesn’t deserve to be president nor does she deserve to be VP. A complete shut-out would be a fitting end to her campaign.

Posted by: mom2laz | June 2, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

I lost half my vote in Florida. I could try to give Obama my half vote in November but there is no provision for giving half votes and then I resent having part of my vote taken away. If I don’t vote at all it will deny him a whole vote. If I vote for McCain It will deny him two votes(the vote he didn’t get from me plus the vote I give to McCain) I think that should work pretty well. Then I can feel like my vote finally counted for something.

Posted by: Chuckwillswidow | June 2, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

THE LAST PRIMARIES ARE TOMORROW SO WHAT IS THIS HEADLINE FOR??????
THE MEDIA JUST WONT QUIT..
UNTIL SOMEONE GETS THE MAGIC NUMBER, IT AINT OVER. LOL

Posted by: TJ | June 2, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

The liberals in here cannot stop comparing McCain to Bush. That’s all they’ve been doing for the last month now. Do you guys really think you can get your man elected by doing that. You have 5 months left. Obama’s number’s are getting weaker by the day. People are starting to catch on to your bs. Stop trashing people and start talking about the issues. You can begin by stating how Obama is going to bring this CHANGE you keep mentioning. He doesn’t have ANY answers to ANYTHING. Wake up lib’s you’ve got 5 more months in the limelight until the “McCain Train” (Yes, I just came up with that) runs you over. hahahahah

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

With Obama dropping harassing bombs on McCain daily combined with Moveon.org hitting him broadside, in addition to Democratic 527′s suppressing him from the rear. He’s going to get flash backs of being shot down on his first Rookie Mission over Vietnam.
And that’s not adding the American public who loathe continuous war, permanent tax breaks for the most wealthy, corporate tax breaks that are unnecessary, Supreme Court judge nominations, etc. (McCain won’t get the chance)
America won’t put its future in a 72 year old warmonger with ties to George Bush. Believe me, many Americans talk a good game huffing and puffing while beating on their chests, but aren’t loyal to being masochists. You know it, I know it and the world knows it.
This election is already a wrap.
I can now see why Hillary Clinton needed a jackhammer to remove her from the podium. It was hers to lose and SHE LOST IT. Even she knew this was going to be a blowout Try back in 8 years Hill. 70 is not that old to become the first woman POTUS. Or is it?
Time to bake some cookies, said Hillary

Posted by: Nat Turner | June 2, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Eric,
If you choose to notice only the negative comment of some Obama’s supporters and if I choose to see the same in the Clinton’s supporters, I think we will not have a clear picture of what went on in the past five months. More importantly, there is nothing new about feeling that your candidate should have been the one to win, it’s an age old phenomenon. Otherwise, we would not have contests, we would have coronations. The fact is with all its ebbs and flows, our democratic system has been vetted like never before. We’ve learned a lot about its intricacies and complexity-we’ve become educated constituents. Has it been perfect? Absolutely not! But perfection is not a trait of human system, it’s the trait of a divine one. I don’t think bitterness will turn the clock back, but refining the system for future democratic primaries may be an viable option. For that matter, revisiting the national election system of “Electoral Votes” may become an immediate priority soon….Especially, if we end up with a lop-sided popular-electoral result. The past is gone, the present is here to shape the future….Let’s make good use of what we can control–present.

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | June 2, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

The media and Obama followers make it out like he is winning by a landslide. Guess what, he is not. I find this whole campaign to be a disservice to the voters. The media has been biased in favor of Obama from the start to the point of destroying Hillary through their one-sided opinion journalism. Obama has been allowed to get away with crap that is disgusting. He is racist and manipulative and not even close to being ready for President. He is only close to half of the people’s choice for President. And that is only about half of the Democrats stupid enough to vote for him. I am so disgusted by politics right now, that Obama will not get my vote no matter what. If like some people say that it is a vote for McCain, then so be it. But my vote will not be for Obama. In good conscience, I cannot vote for a liar.

Posted by: Kris | June 2, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

The reason why I will not vote for Obama is because He is all talk..I DO NOT TRUST HIM..I know the peers he associated with in Chicago..That is why I live somewhere else. The politicans on the south-side of Chicago is just a sin. Never,Obama.

Posted by: patricia smith | June 2, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

CONSIDER THIS: As a third party candidate she can win the electorate majority by beating both men in the swing states

Posted by: mentauk | June 2, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Nat Turner, 70 is not too old but 72 is?

Posted by: pondering | June 2, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Hey NAT!!! What has Obama done so far besides beat on his chest and say CHANGE??? NOTHING!!! He hasn’t done crap in his measly 3 years in the senate either. Why are you guys so in love with him anyway???

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

I’m still blown away by the how many Hillary supporters seem to not know what actually happened with Michigan and Florida. Let’s review.
- Michigan and Florida indicate that they’ll be holding their primaries early, and in doing so, are in clear violation of DNC rules. They are at this point subject to having their votes discounted. (cont’d)

Posted by: Voxy Brown | June 2, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Nat Turner, What do you think about thi, Instead ofoObama wind surfing, what about obama going back and forth on a skate board with Rev. Wright on one side and Ferrican on the other side. We would swift boat him but, wait he has never been in the service.

Posted by: billy bob | June 2, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Chuckwillswidow
I lost half my vote in Florida. I could try to give Obama my half vote in November but there is no provision for giving half votes
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You live in Florida. I live in Michigan. We have both been disenfranchised. But not by Obama, and not by the DNC.
In Florida, it was the Republican controlled state legislature that moved the date of the primary forward, thereby violating the timing rule. Why don’t you take out your ire on the Florida Republicans by casting a FULL VOTE, the full vote THEY denied you, and vote for a Democrat (even if the Dem is Obama) in the General Election?
The situation in Michigan is more complicated. Here the state Democratic party leaders moved the date forward. Still, that wasn’t Obama’s fault.
I think the DNC was gracious to give us Michiganders any say in the final nomination AT ALL, based on a ficitious pimary that was at best, only a straw poll.

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Susan – “Obama bought his nomination. He outspent every candidate in history on tv ads” – On the other hand, he raised more money than anyone in history. Seems like he and his campaign were pretty successful.

Posted by: jmengate | June 2, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

OBAMA HAS NOOOOO RECORD LETS FACE IT HIS RECORD IS WORKING AT REV WRIGHTS CHURCH

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Every democratic candidate acknowledges this, and takes their name off the Michigan ballot. Every one except for Hillary, who leaves hers on. (cont’d)

Posted by: Voxy Brown | June 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

OMG JONATHAN. Nice list of “accomplishments”. Calling the Iraq war “dumb” is an accomplishment now. You Obamabots are dumber than I thought. He captured the heart and minds of a bunch of naive out of touch cowards like you. That’s it!! He wont last until November saying nothing about his policies. Complete fake.
McCain ’08

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

SOME WANT CLINTON TO GO INDEPENDENT…
DONT FORGET CLINTON LITERARILY REBUILT THE DEMO PARTY AFTER THE WOEFUL FAILURE OF CARTER. . . EVEN THO THE PARTY ELDERS DESERTED THE CLINTONS, THE REST OF US WERE THERE AND WE LOVE THE CLINTONS.
SURPLUS, PROSPERITY, PEACE AND QUIET OF THE 1990s.
THE REPUBLICANS FED US HIS PRIVATE LIFE AND PORN WE DIDNT NEED…
LONG LIVE BILL CLINTON
HILLARY WILL BE EVEN BETTER IF WE DIDNT HAVE DNC LOSERS.ORG
TJ, THE CLINTONITE FOREVER.

Posted by: TJ | June 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Yes patricia smith, your right. Obama is all talk. Nothing like Hillary Clinton who is soo real and consistent. If only more politicians could be like Hillary what a wonderful planet this would be NOT!!!!
Wake up you flake! Hillary is as phony as they come. Her and Bill wrote the book on phony LMAO! Thx for a good laugh!

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

I applaud ABC in being the first news channel whom I saw report that Hillary Clinton’s claim that she has the popular vote is based on her adding the votes from Michigan of +300,000, a state where Barack Obama was not even listed on the ballots.
It is absurd that delegates were given her in Michigan, and in my estimation that she was able to add Florida (delegates and votes).
Thank you ABC for at least declaring (even though not a full report on the subject)this questionable claim made by the Clintons and her campaign.
Actually, I believe it severly hurts the Party, as many if not most voters do not understand, nor will they find out, what really happened, and how very wrong and unfair this all was. They will just believe her and her campaign, and even I would be disgruntled and dismayed IF I believed that the candidate who won the popular vote wasn’t selected and was superceded by the delegates. This would make me downright mad!!!

Posted by: urigits | June 2, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

I WOULD SUPPORT HILLARY 100% IF SHE RAN AS AN IDEPENDENT BUT I DONT THINK SHE WILL HAVE THE MONEY

Posted by: Andrew | June 2, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

The Obama fans in here need to start admitting that he is not qualified to run this country. Without a teleprompter he is NOTHING.

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Tough, isn’t it?
It’s O.K., people, let it all out…
Go ahead, have a good cry, now.
There, there.

Posted by: Aaron | June 2, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

libre | Jun 2, 2008 4:25:47 PM
You ASSERT:
obama blocke the will of the people of Florida and Michigan, he is antiDemocratic.
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Can you do anythng more than just ASSERT this? In what sense did Obama “block the will of the people”?
What people? Do you mean all the potential voters who might have gone to the polls in Florida and Michigan if they had thought it was an officially sanctioned primary?
Do you mean all the people in Michigan who CERTAINLY would have voted for Obama in Michigan, but didn’t because he name was not on the ballot?
Is that the will of the people you are so concerned to defend?

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Look guys Hillary had no chance, she is a phony. ANYBODY could have beaten her. Obama cannot win against somebody like McCain. I can’t wait to here you guys cry when Obama gets stomped. Meet me here. November 4th.

Posted by: Ryan | June 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

I guess this should tell the party that Bill isn’t going to be campaigning on its presidential behalf.

Posted by: tiredtoo | June 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Oh, keep in mind about Florida:
The REPUBLICAN controlled state legislature voted to move up the primary, and hold it in such a way that DNC would have to penalize the DEMOCRATIC voters of the state.
Makes you wonder, huh? I mean, hey, why not sabotage the election (Florida, Florida … hmmm, why do I remember something about shady elections in Florida), and get all of the Democrats to spend forever throwing mud at each other over it.
Yes, I’m an Obama supporter. BUT I would have voted for Hillary if she were the nominee … over Senator McNuts, any day.
Regardless, this is NOT Obama’s fault! For you in Florida, who are mad and wanting to do something about the situation – find the names of those who voted to hold the renegade primary, and screw you out of your vote. Go to the poll in November. And get them out of office!
(PS – while you’re voting, please, please, don’t vote for McCain. He WILL expand the Iraq war into the Middle Eastern War, institute the draft, and generally preside over the fall the US … basically, finish off what Bush has started.)

Posted by: Jonathan | June 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Hillary lost this nomination because she lied about sniper fire. Then she ran a mean and very dirty campaign against another fellow Democrat. She stopped attacking the issues and started attacking the other Democrat. How selfish is that? This angered the Superdelegates. Hillary was not running as a Democrat. She was running as herself and she tried to divide the party. Those superdelegates were having none of that. That’s why she lost all those superdelegate votes to Obama. So please stop blaming the media. Stop blaming Obama. Stop blaming the Superdelegates. Stop blaming the DNC. The blame is all Hillary’s, Bill’s, and Mark Penn.

Posted by: Detour4 | June 2, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

The DNC rule should be changed.
There are no more Super delegates just popular votes.
The SD’s don’t represent the will of voters.

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

libre, we also know that Obama stomped the lights out of that lady in the pants suit!

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

libre | Jun 2, 2008 4:27:46 PM
Obama’s money comes from bundlers set by the oil industry and the subprime loan industry. Also his fundraisers are paying off the political favors obama sold them in Illinois. That is successful but as a corrupt politician.
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You are fast & free in making unsubstantiated charges. Do you have nay evidence at all for this?
Without evidence, such charges sound like the empty, and pointless.

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Jonathan – You’re completely right. I find it unbelievable that the Democratic voters of Florida were taken advantage of by their Republican state officials, and the way alot of them are taking out their displeasure is by threatening to vote for a Republican, Senator McCain. They’re playing you like a fiddle.

Posted by: jmenate | June 2, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Nat Turner –
Let me just acknowledge your characterization of me: a lemming, gullible, dumb and a loser. Those points seem absolutely imperative to your case.
You’ll forgive me if I just stick to the facts rather than joining in and launching personal attacks against you.
Obama wins the black vote, the naive college kid vote, and the wealthy, ultra-liberal vote.
Since all the ‘distractions’ related to his value system have come to light, his favorability ratings among women voters has dropped from 56% in February to 43% currently. His favorability ratings has also dropped among white, working-class voters. He is also not doing well with seniors or hispanics.
In any case, I’ve said all I have to say to you, and am leaving this blog site. I’m sure you’ll find someone else on whom you can vent your hostility.

Posted by: RedTT | June 2, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

At least if I vote for McCain I know what I might get which is more of the same, and while that is not a good choice I would rather know than NOT KNOW and with Obama that is what I will get, I don’t know what his mystery change or hypotheticals are, which at this point I think I should know by now, but I know as much about him now as I did when he first announced his decision to run for POTUS which is basically NOTHING.

Posted by: tiredofthefighting | June 2, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

HRC lost cause she ran a crappy campaign. She thought she had it won before it even started, then when things went south on her, she changed her tune everyday about the issues. Then she tried to change the rules everytime things were’nt going her way. She flushed her credability right down the toilet by doing that, not saying anything about putting her canpaign in debt for over 20 million dollars, and she still lost, period.

Posted by: JJ | June 2, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

When asked directly when Clinton will step aside, Elleithee told reporters “as she has said dozens and dozens of times she is in this race until we have a nominee…Until there is a nominee she is going to try to win support.”
Well, that should settle the questions about what the Wednesday a.m. speech will be about since after tomorrow’s primaries, there WILL be a nominee, and it won’t be HRC.

Posted by: Lindy | June 2, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

I have not chimed in on this campaign and actually voiced my opinion to this date. But now I have decided that if Obama gets the nomination, I will absolutely NOT vote for him in the GE. That is not being said in the heat of the moment and I will not change my mind and “come home” in November. Super delegates need to take note of those of us who are sincere about this.

Posted by: AynRand II | June 2, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

lets vote mcain we havent learned our lesson

Posted by: mentauk | June 2, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Nothing is left of the three Obama pillars change, bridging the divide and hope.
Obama is the Senior Dems puppet, hidden by them in an under-the-radar-campaign, rich with tricks and cheap-shots. No change there.
Basically the first months Obama copied what Clinton said the day before, still at it this week, going to Mount Rushmore in the middle of the night only days after Clinton visited. Parallell to the copy-cat strategy Obama campaigned avoided questions with “read my book” and trashing the opponents approval numbers.
Divisive, Obama breaks the mole.
I still have hope. I got too. Hope the superdelegates don’t throw this away, and if they do that it pays off. I will never forgive them if Obama looses to McCain. Clinton will win, and deserves the nomination in my book.
Media is fickle. Dems cannot expect Obama get a easy ride from here. And Clinton, they can’t make more things up…

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 2, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

I supported Hilary, but if Obama is the candidate I will vote for him. Voting for McCain or sitting home in a snit isn’t going to do anybody that supports Hilary’s ideas any good.
It was a hard fought battle, and Obama won and won honorably. I’m disappointed that Hilary hasn’t won. But good Lord, four more years of the Republicans! None of us want that. Let’s all take a deep breath and work together.

Posted by: Carrie | June 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

libre | Jun 2, 2008 4:35:20 PM
Write Hillary on the ballot.
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Writing in Hillary is the same as NOT voting at all.
So, you are saying don’t vote, don’t participate in the general election.
Even though Obama’s and Clinton’s policy proposals are virtually indistinguisable – forget policy.
What does policy have to do with politics anyway?
Good Grief!

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

catleya, when Hillary was behind in the popular vote, but ahead in superdelegates, she was demanding that the superdelegates “should NOT be swayed by the will of the voters.” And that’s a direct quote. And now you’re crying that “The SD’s don’t represent the will of voters.” Well, that’s the way Hillary wanted it, and now she got it.

Posted by: Jim | June 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

libre | Jun 2, 2008 4:36:58 PM
λόγος Yopu can find the evidence in articles published everywhere, even here on ABCNews that protect and push obama so much. Just read.
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Still sounds like something that’s made up, and I base my judgement on my “reading” of your argument, or lack thereof.;-)

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Ryan,
I’ll let your comments speak for themselves.
By the way, not going into Iraq would have saved the US 3 trillion dollars, not to mention the lives wasted (do you know anyone who served, or who was hurt? I do …), and the effort that could have been spend on something worthwhile, like getting off of terrorist oil.
That’s $10,000 for every man, woman and child in the US. I don’t think that’s minor, but I suppose if that’s your viewpoint, it’s a free country (for now, anyway).
If you want to counter with a list of McCain’s accomplishments, please go ahead. If you want to go berserk, and call a complete stranger “dumb” or “naive,” and claiming that Obama has said nothing about his policies (try looking at his website, it’s filled with policy after policy), be my guest.
And I encourage you to sign “McCain ’08″ after those posts, just because, well, you make McCain supporters look SERIOUSLY uninformed, and just plain mad … wait, what ARE you so angry about, anyway? Seriously? What is it that you stand for?
McCain is a destructionist. So is Bush. You are as well. Some people are more interested in what we’re going to do to FIX THIS MESS that Bush, and the politics of HATE and DESTRUCTION have given this country.
And some – I think it’s the minority – are too P***ED off to think straight. I can handle anonymous attacks over the internet from those people, I’m not concerned.
I’m just saying I don’t want one in office.

Posted by: Jonathan | June 2, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

I am McCain supporter, I am female white, high school educated but well paid in an IT job. I am a MCain supporter because just like I educated myself to get a good job I also educated myself on the candidates before I made the decision. What does his age matter? People can die at any age. But he is a good man, all around, human yes but very experienced. We need an experienced politician to get us out of the mess Bush got us in. On Obama, I have to admit that you guys are starting to sound like some kind of cult, if he is so great then why do I only see nasty comments. How are you convincing me that he is the right man for the job? Tell me why you think he is the right one to lead the country, I agree we need change but any change will have to come by working within the system, anyone who has been in the business world knows this. How is pushing Hillary out long before the primaries are over spund right, does not everyone have a right for their vote to count? Wouldn’t you be pissed off if someone said well your primary is not till last so why bother to vote your vote does not count anyway!
By the way, my husband (college educated well paid) supports Hillary and will vote for McCain, his reason and many of my friends have said the same thing (yes they are mostly white, black people don’t hang with white people, not my choice). They will not vote for a black man. No matter how you look at it he played the race card. Now if he had not played the race card and instead played as a mixed race person then that would have been a different story, then maybe white voters would not have seen him not as a black man but as a man, and would have given him a serious look and maybe he would have come out on top. I would have given him a chance, just think the first everyman in the office! But I live in the south white people are blamed for every thing that is not going well for blacks. I was 12 years old when the schools were de-segregrated and since that time I have never seen a case where a white person had any advantage over a black person, heck I have even lost out on a job because the other person was black and they did not have enough black people working there. Racism is alive, and being kept alive by blacks. Take responsibility for what happens to you, I do.

Posted by: Southernlady | June 2, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Whether you are an Obama or a Hillary fan, I think we should get ready for a President McCain. Just look at the hate mail from within the Democratic party on all major Blogs throughout the USA.
It looks like, we have lost this one. Maybe, we will have a chance in 4 years. But I do believe one thing, Obama pulled out of Michigan, because he felt that he would lose. But I do not believe there is anything wrong with his decision. Looking at it from todays standpoint, it was a brilliant move.
Unfortunately, the real losers are the DNC because they are the idiots which allowed this mess to happen. Removing peoples rights to vote because of smoked filled room decisions is pure stupidity.
Last point, I do not know if Obama is a racist or not. From listening to all his pastors, the possibility exists. You normally associate with people who think like you do, especially within a church. As a Democrat, I have no reason to take the risk. Sorry, I will vote a safe McCain, even though I would prefer not to.

Posted by: Paul | June 2, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Andrew………..
I’m with you man! I would definetely vote for Hillary is she ran as an independent. I wish financially there was a way, but it doesn’t seem possible.

Posted by: Neal | June 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

From AynRand II: $:40 pm
….I will absolutely NOT vote for him(Obama) in the GE. That is not being said in the heat of the moment and I will not change my mind and “come home” in November. Super delegates need to take note of those of us who are sincere about this.
And just how many ‘millions’ of you are there? What if HRC tells you to? What if SHE endorses Obama. If you’re a Democrat (er, a thinking Democrat), why would you give up your principles to not vote for Obama–why is HRC so important to you? Because she’s a woman? Is that enough for you to want at least 4 more years of a republican ‘regime’? Do what you think is best for you..it is your right, and I respect that. But IF you are a Democrat, please don’t let your vote be based on bitter vindictiveness.

Posted by: Lindy | June 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

To Voxy Brown:
Add to your review Nevada and South Carolina. They pushed ahead their schedules too.

Posted by: Nicholas | June 2, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Detour4 | Jun 2, 2008 4:34:14 PM: Just to be clear, Hillary should win this because of the “sniper-fire” story.
This was one of those issues the Obama camp used to trash her numbers, exhaggerated and spin out of control. Cheaps-shot, a lot of them. Clinton ran on issues. If I can say something bad about her campaign, it was old-fashion and a bit boring. She did not go negative until Texas with the 3 A.M-ad, and still then on issue of experience.
Clinton never did to Obama what he did to her on “sniper-fire”, labelling her a lier on an enhancement exhaggeration. Obama gaffe-machine from “Auschwitz grandfather”, “sweetie”, “48 states”, “Auschwitz uncle”, etc. Only gaffe’s she addressed were the one with political implications, i.e. “bitter” and “tea-with-Iran” gaffe turned politics.
In case you forgot, the point with the “sniper-fire” story from Bosnia in 1992 was the fact: Clinton was in Bosnia 1992. Clinton participated when talks on Northern Irland ended, she took women rights to China. Where was Obama in 1992? That my friend is experience.
If we agree the popular vote thing is a tie, why should superdelegates give it to the candidate we most dislike. We dislike Obama because he ran a negative campaign, he is not deserving.
Clinton beats Obama on issues, merits and character.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 2, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Yep, Clinton is a character alright Slvia….LMAO!!

Posted by: JJ | June 2, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Jim,
I recall she said SD should sway what the voters will.
But the SD’s don’t agree and against it.
Remember when Bill Richardson and Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama.
They should endorse Hillary instead.

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

libre,
I’m not sure if I’m a big fan of Hillary understanding of foreign affairs. If she can’t distinguish being read a poem by a little girl from being shot at by snipers, I’m not ready to conceed that she knows more about foreign policy.
Regardless, she fully understood about the Middle East when she voted to give Bush the authority to go into Iraq, and she has a policy of war.
She is a hawk, coming from a long line of using war to advance political stature; Iraq wasn’t an accident, although it might have been an incident of her playing follow the leader (Bush was very popular back then).
Regardless, this is a debate, and I can certainly respect the viewpoint that she knows more foreign policy than Barack. BUT it is her intentions, and the level of violence that she is comfortable with, that I disagree with.
From her vote which could segway to a justification to a war with Iran (if you think Iraq was a disaster, just wait for that one), to calling negative attacks on her primary opponent “the fun part,” I have a hard time thinking that she thinks like me.
Regardless, this election will be between McCain – who has a frightening disconnect when it comes to foreign policy – and Obama. Beetween those two, you should be able to find someone who’s views are closer to your own.
The difference between Obama and McCain is pretty black and white (hee hee). Hillary and McCain are good buddies, which I must say doesn’t speak well for her …

Posted by: Jonathan | June 2, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

It’s funny that a cynic will continue to find something to whine and or criticize. It’s genetically embedded. Usually a cynic is someone who is already living a miserable life and looks to outside sources to blame for their own personal woes.
Cynics are rarely optimistic unless in cases of dispair. They love to hear someone is having a problem or at times hoping or wishing for something negative to occur.
Suffice to say, cynics will always remain in the mental crab bucket right along with other crabs pulling them down and making sure not one crab gets out.
This is a perfect case of crabs who are pessimists to the maximum and optimists who are always looking toward the good in all things.
You know what. GOOD beats EVIL everytime. Truth over rhetoric. Positivity over negativity.
CYNICS, don’t you know you will always lose? What has a cynic ever won?
NOTHING.
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Nat Turner | June 2, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

“Now one of Clinton’s Laws of Politics is this,” Mr. Clinton says.
“If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think; if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope. That’s the best.”
Get ready to witness History. 1st part is seeing H Clinton bow down and support the same man who she said is not the better candidate. If he’s not, why will she endorse? SHE KNOW’S HE’S THE BETTER CANDIDATE.
The second part is watching Obama utterly dismantle the Repugnican candidate Pappy Buttermilk McCain.
BLOWOUT! Ready for the inauguration party?

Posted by: Nat Turner | June 2, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

For most of last year, Hillary Clinton was the clear favorite to be the Democratic nominee — and very possibly to fulfill what she believed to be her destiny as the first woman to be elected president.
Unfortunately, as Barack Obama moves closer and closer becoming POTUS while running through McCain like a hot knife through butter, there’s a version of the seven stages of grief and loss in the apparent death of Clinton’s dream.
1. Shock. The Clinton camp was stunned by her third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses in January, and in some ways has never quite recovered.
2. Denial. Publicly at least, Clinton is still in this stage, insisting to supporters that the race isn’t over despite the all but insurmountable delegate math.
3. Bargaining. Clinton and her top aides have been cajoling superdelegates for weeks, trying to convince them that she would be the stronger nominee against Republican John McCain. Just as expected the votes for Florida and Michigan would be 50%, she lost a major battle.
4. Guilt. Not for Clinton, herself, necessarily. But there have been recriminations and a series of well-documented changes within the campaign headquarters. Some loyalists say her staff has not run the campaign she deserved.
5. Anger. It has surfaced most clearly in complaints about media coverage — what she sees as the coddling of Obama, and what she described this week as sexist, at times even misogynist, treatment.
6. Depression. She and her top advisers remain publicly upbeat, and there’s no outward sign so far of this phase, other than fatigue on the campaign trail.
7. Acceptance. This probably won’t come until after the last contests on June 3, when Obama would need high powered binoculars to see H Clinton
She’s finishing up anger and moving into depression mode.
From there, it’ll be time to get back into formation.
She’s not bigger than the democratic party itself, contrary to unpopular Clinton cynics.
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Nat Turner | June 2, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Cheri | Jun 2, 2008 4:49:32 PM
The deck was stacked against Obama from the beginning…Obama managed to overcome it all. He is a lot stronger than people give him credit for.
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Paul | Jun 2, 2008 4:50:38 PM
Obama pulled out of Michigan, because he felt that he would lose. But I do not believe there is anything wrong with his decision. Looking at it from todays standpoint, it was a brilliant move
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I agree.
A Michigan voter (who did not vote in the first, unsanctioned primary), I hoped we could have our voices legitimately heard by holding a second, legitimate primary. I also felt Obama declined to participate in a second primary in Michigan for strategic reasons – he thought he would lose. I kind of resented him for this.
Still, the whole mess in Michigan WAS not his fault. He was under no obligation to participate in a second primary. For whatever reason, a second primary was not held. I’m not convinced this was ONLY Obama’s faultThis goes to Cheri’s point.
Obama and his campaign have run an absolutely BRILLIANT campaign. People say the guy has no experience? Well then, his success in this campaign, against the MOST experienced and effective campaigning family we’ve seen in the last 20 years, demonstrates that experience is not all that matters.
Once in a blue moon a political prodigy may emerge – Obama appears to be that prodigy.

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

If Clinton couldn’t defeat a relatively unknown Democrat, how the hell do you think she could defeat a long-established Republican? No one “stole” anything from Clinton; she lost the election, plain and simple, because of poor planning, poor campaign management, and complete lack of foresight.
And if getting revenge against Obama/the DNC/the media/the evildoer of your choice is what’s most important to you in choosing the next president, then this country is in far more trouble than we could ever vote or buy our way out of.

Posted by: windrider | June 2, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

The MSM have been giving a signal that the race will be over soon.
By the time if Hillary really drops out( I hope not ), they will be lonely without audiences.
It won’t be exciting anymore.

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

wake up, people! If either one of those two candidates had run as a Right Winger, the media would have jumped on them. All forms of media thrive on the bad news. They decide who they want for the next term and twist the story to support who they want. They do this with most big stories. Case in point, the media will cover juicy stories about crime, accidents and the war. Watch the news tonight and count the stories about the good work people do. There are the lives saved by EMS, the people that are helped by our soldiers in the litter box, There are the roads and buildings and the public utilities that are being rebuilt in Iraq by our troops. What about the church groups that go around and repair homes for those who can’t afford it. there are the good things that the VA does for veterans of all ages. None of this makes the news. All we see is the civilians that got killed or wounded by our troops trying to get at insurgents who kill just to kill. We see the stories of the damage done to already damaged buildings or the poor care given veterans who forgot to follow the procedures to get help. I get great care that I wouldn’t have because I lack the insurance to go elsewhere.
My point is that we hear every rumor or bit of gossip about any candidate but never the real facts. The media fails to report on the fact that Obama is a Muslim and has shown the total disrespect he shows for the country he wants to lead and the flag that thousands upon thousands of people have died for or fought for and the country you call home and the freedoms you have to speak out against them. We hear people like Garrison Keeler bitch about the fact that he can’t cross the street in DC to see some paintings because he chose the time that thousands of Veterans and Patriots rode their motorcycles in “Rolling Thunder”. A tribute on Memorial Day to the Fallen heroes of all wars. Those”fat old men” came from all over United States at their own expense with gas at the four dollar mark. The media let his self centered complaint be published but very little mention was given to the Veterans, or why they do this every year.
The stories you hear and read are as one sided as they can make them. No mention is made that if Hillary is elected, Billy boy will be back in the White House and it will be Business as usual, with Hillary signing the Bills that Bill tells her to.
Think before you vote

Posted by: Ghostdancer | June 2, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

I find it very ironic from the supporters of Senator Clinton on this board that many are displaying the very attitude that, in my humble opinion, may have cost her the nomination. ie comletely underestimating Senator Obama and believing that she was entitled to the nomination. By the time they realized that Senator Obama’s campaign had a more effective strategy they were already too far behing in the delegate count to catch up. It might be time for some introspection.

Posted by: jmengate | June 2, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

I like Juan Williams. He always says something real.
He was on GMA this morning.
He said something about Obama :
This is a young black AA guy who is running for president.
He wants A CHANGE, what kind of change…and so on…

Posted by: catleya | June 2, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

The amount of misinformation and hyperbole in most of these comments is stunning. It makes one fear for the future of the country, not because of the leadership but because of the foolishness of the citizenry. Both Democratic candidates have fought hard races. For the most part, they have (unlike many here) kept the debate civil rather than negative. They do have different ideas about what’s needed for the future, but both share an advantage — they aren’t Republicans, they don’t support the war, they do support women’s rights, and they will do more for the environment than McCain. Refusing to vote because your candidate didn’t win the nomination is unbelievably short-sighted. (My husband didn’t love Gore in 2000, so he voted for Nader. Guess who we got … Bush. That’s the kind of result dividing the democratic ticket will produce again, and the Republicans would just love it if that happened.) Saying that you don’t know what Obama stands for means you haven’t been listening. Saying that he is racist is ridiculous. Blaming him for Rev. Wright is immature. I voted for Hilary in the primary, but as time has progressed, I see now tht Obama is the one who brings something genuinely new to the equation. It might even be hope. Clinton-supporters, wouldn’t giving him a chance be better than allowing what we know to continue?

Posted by: Democrat | June 2, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

The crazy thing is people think that because Hillary won the BLUE states in the primary that she would be the stronger candidate in November.
There’s no way California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois and all the other BLUE states would vote for McCain in November. They’ll all be in Obama’s column.
On top of that, Obama is putting some traditionally semi-Red states into play like Colorado and New Mexico.
Obama’s strong grassroots organizing and fundraising and McCain’s lack of grassroots organizing and fundraising does not bode well for McCain.
Along with that, Democrats are outnumbering Republicans in new voter registration 3 to 1.
This sounds like an Obama/Democratic landslide in November!!! Let’s go Dems.

Posted by: Topher | June 2, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Nat Turner | Jun 2, 2008 5:03:16 PM
SHE [Clinton] KNOW’S HE’S [Obama] THE BETTER CANDIDATE.
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I think you’re right, but she may have her doubts.
Unlike many of the other bloggers here, I think Clinton gave up her hopes for getting the nomination a long time ago.
So, why pursue this to the bitter end?
Two reasons:
1. Even though she has lost, her participation in this campaign has been historic. She wants to ensure that the full degree of her relative support is recorded. The only way to do that is by running in all the state primaries, and by fighting tooth-and-nail to get the “intent” of the voters in Florida and Michigan some entered into the final delegate count.
2. While she may know that Obama has bested her in this campaign. She may reasonably doubt his ability to carry certain crucial states. We won’t know ’til the general elections. He may – despite his prodigious appeal – still lose. That’s an outside chance, and unlikely, given the disarray in the Republican party, and McCain’s limited appeal to Republican party activists. Still, its posssible.
In the unlikely event Obama loses this year, her truly remarkable second place finish in the 2008 primary will give her a strong argument for being the leading Dem candidate 2012.
BTW: This is all pure speculation, but its my sense of what she’s up to.
I think she’ll concede in this week, next week at the latest, and then start campaigning furiously for him.

Posted by: λόγος | June 2, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Also, Libertarian Candidate Bob Barr will take alot of votes away from McCain. He could be a Nader-style spoiler for McCain in this election.

Posted by: Topher | June 2, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

When Obama supporters say “Hillary Clinton thinks she is entitled to it”, well that garbage came right out of Trinity Church. Because she is white she is entitled to it, we got it. But what you are really saying is I have major problems, I am a racist. White America owes me something because they are the blame for all my problems.

Posted by: Toby | June 2, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Obama-camp still confident they have the superdelegates, and probably they do – now. In the eyes of the public, however, I see nothing but pain and ailements: Dems and Barack Obama, a failed candidate limping onwards unless a considerable number of superdelegates show leadership and get behind the lady with character, workethics and will to do this.
In keeping with their condecending campaign the Obama camp “planned surrender” offer to Clinton included Secretary of Health in a cabinet most likely not to happen.
Secretary of Health, that’s rich! Obama offers Clinton the job of explaining to people why his universal health-care plan fails to cover 15 million Americans.
Clinton beats Obama on issues, merits and character. Clinton 08!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

From Toby:
“When Obama supporters say “Hillary Clinton thinks she is entitled to it”, well that garbage came right out of Trinity Church. Because she is white she is entitled to it, we got it. But what you are really saying is I have major problems, I am a racist. White America owes me something because they are the blame for all my problems.”
Why, I hadn’t thought of that. I always thought that when I said that Hillary felt she was entitled, it’s because she’s spent 8 years in the White House as first lady, and has been preparing for a presidential run easily since 1992 – and was pretty sure she would get it.
Apparently, my thinking was actually controlled by a church I had never heard of, thousands of miles away! I should seek therapy, you know, as a white guy with a deep seated racism against whites (sounds like a Dave Chappelle skit).
Man, scary stuff.
And seriously Toby … how did you learn to read my mind?
On the down side, I’m apparently a self hating white with “major problems,” but on the plus side, I apparently have a psychic connection to some church in Chicago, and a dude named Toby!
There’s GOT to be a way to make money with my new-found gift!
Thanks Toby!

Posted by: whoever | June 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

I am happy that many on this board see the truth. That a Hillary fan voting for McCain is okaying four more years of Bush politics. Frankly, I don’t think our country can afford another four years, economically or militarily, as well as the risk of more ultra-conservative judges put on the Supreme Court.
I do hope Hillary bows out gracefully and fully supports the Democratic nominee, Obama. I would expect nothing less than loyalty from a true Democrat. We need to make sure the illogical Repubs in charge now are booted out. There is so much work to be done, electing a Democrat is just the beginning, to help us all out of the myriad of messes Bush and company have gotten us into.

Posted by: Lyd | June 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Hillary Clinton don’t worry, may be Obama will let you be VP and you can iron his shirts for him.

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

We will see a one legged short, deaf and dumb transvestite president before we see a woman President.

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

No one wants a president on PMS!

Posted by: NoMoreLies | June 2, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

There is a lot of hostility and misinformation on this thread. We have two good candidates with nearly identical policies, both historical firsts (AA and female).
The job they are applying for is President, and that job requires good organization, mastery of the issues, leadership and inspiration. Hillary has her strengths in these areas, but Obama’s campaign has shown him to have exemplary aptitude in organization, grassroots support, leadership and money management. He has stayed on message and kept his composure when things were going badly.
I have not seen these qualities as abundantly in either of the other two candidates, and they are critical for successful job performance.

Posted by: TurkeyShoot | June 2, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

whoever… in respose to your post.
You had to do a lot of talking to defend yourself against that one, must have hit a nerve. I can see you tried really hard not to come out sounding angry. Good for you.

Posted by: Toby | June 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

“And seriously Toby … how did you learn to read my mind?” How did you learn to read Hillary Clintons mind?… you know that “I am entitled to it” garbage.

Posted by: Toby | June 2, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Hillary will always be the winner as far as I’m concerned the truth is that she is much more expereince and suitable for the President of the United States for those who are blinded I wish you open your eye’s, next day and hours, or your will regret another 6 yrs for your mistake again
Vote Hillary united we stand

Posted by: gg | June 2, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

If Obama picks Hillary to be VEEP he better have a good food taster, too. The Clinton’s (both) would stop at nothing to gain a return to the power seat.
What we are observing is a passing of the generations, from the old guard (Clintons) to the new. It’s about time.

Posted by: Murphy Slaw | June 2, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

This reminds me of an old Dilbert cartoon. Boss man comes in and says, “I want to squelch this rumor about moving the company to Antartica and giving all your jobs to low paid eskimos”. Dilbert informs boss man that there are no eskimos in Antartica. Boss man’s eyes get real big and he says, “excuse me, I have to make a phone call”.

Posted by: LongT | June 2, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

It’s almost like some Hillary supporters are willing to throw themselves under the bus.

Posted by: LongT | June 2, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

You know Hillary might lose this one, but, I sure am going to have fun watching the republicans tear Obama to threads. It will be good to watch Obama and the “DNC radical left” get what they deserve.

Posted by: Toby | June 2, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Hi Toby,
My point – you seemed have missed it – was that you statement:
‘”When Obama supporters say “Hillary Clinton thinks she is entitled to it”, well that garbage came right out of Trinity Church.”‘
Is false, and absurd in its generalization. I know people who think that that Hillary feels entitled to the Presidency, who’s thinking did not come out of “right out of Trinity Church.”
Her actually beliefs play no part in pointing out that you are wrong, because you didn’t make a statement about her beliefs – you made a statement about the beliefs of Obama supporters (all of them?), which is easily disproven my something called a “counterexample.” (You may need to Google it.)
By the way, since you read emotion as well as you read minds – I’m not mad. Seriously. I think tweaking irritable / irrational people is humorous.
You need to practice, young Jedi.
And this obsession with entitlement … Dude, I was responding to your post! I really don’t care what Hillary thinks, anyway, since she’s not going to be the nominee, and will quickly fall out of the spotlight.
I was just trying to point out how silly some of the anti-Obama people are.

Posted by: whoever | June 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Some people may not like it but the truth is that she has lost and should stay out of the way or fallin to support the next president… Barack Obama

Posted by: OTU | June 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

whoever.. in response to your post
Your absolutely wrong, I didn’t say all of Obama supporters, I said the Obama supporters who say “she is entitled to it” and you can’t argue these are the same kind of racist remarks coming out of Trinity Church. We all saw Father Pfleger just said these very words. Maybe you don’t it, but everyone sees this as racist remarks.
Also, I still don’t understand why it is OK for you to read Hillary mind, “she thinks she is entitled it” but it is not OK to read a racist remark as a racist remark? You know I think you are just a bunch of double talk. I am glad you are not angry though, I have to admit, I have been trying to see if you would show a different side.

Posted by: Toby | June 2, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Somebody please get the bell and the fork ready.

Posted by: ablanche08 | June 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

As an Obama supporter, I always stated I would vote for the nominee whoever it was, and if Hilliary was the winner I would stick to my word. In politics, I am a Democrat first and am not a follower of a specific clique or family. Therefore, those who say they will stay home or vote for McCain should not complain when their sons and daughters are sent to fight in the Middle East, or complain when the economy worsens and we pay ten dollars for a gallon of gas. Loyalty to one individual will not end the war, lower gas prices, or improve the economy. Supporting a party that represents the needs of all Americans is essential to end the eight years of Bush’s tyranny.

Posted by: SeeKay | June 2, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

PT, They never let camera’s into a private fund raiser. To protect the contributors. Hence the taped comment given by Obama in San Fransisco….Bitter, gun toting, clinging to God comment. Closed door fund raiser.Is this your first election?

Posted by: Bea | June 2, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Bea that was a gaffe. If you hold all the candidates to gaffes over a year and a half then no one would get elected. Have you gone for over a year without misspeaking?

Posted by: Independent | June 3, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

SeeKay sez ‘ As an Obama supporter, I would have voted for Clinton if she won, and I will stick to my word’…..
lol.
Its going to be AMAZING how Obama supporters will start singing that tune.
Here is the formula:
The race card – If yew dont vote fer Obama yer just a racist !!!!
The democract card – Yew aint no democrat if yew vote fer Mc Cain.
The roe vs wade card – if yew vote fer mc cain, women wont be allowed to control their bodies anymore
The Mc Bush card – votin fer Mc Cain is the same as votin fer bush .
Your children card – vote fer Mc Cain and yew will surely be sending ur kids to Iraq (they actually have to volunteer)
Of course, the MEDIA controls what the news is, so lets see if any of these mind games makes it into the media.

Posted by: dummies | June 3, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

The actual bottom line is you can spin this anyway you want to but the truth is Obama is leading in (legal uncontested) popular votes that are not part of the flawed process of early voting in both states. I don’t think the people of Florida or Michigan are flawed, I think the political figure heads are flawed becaue they could have secured a legal remedy but they failed to get it done, so they made a mess out of things. I respect the passion of Clinton supporters and Obama supporters alike, there is a much bigger picture to consider here like the war in Iraq, our economy and taking back the White House. Both candidates supporters need to work together and UNITE the democratic party to make sure that CHANGE occurs in Washington. If we democrats spend more time uniting our party instead of fighting among ourselves so our collective voice is heard, that voice will rumble not only in Washington, but our voice will be heard around the world. I want all Americans to UNITE so we can lead the world arena positively. Vote democratic and accept the results that were reached by the DNC. I support the democratic nominee whoever it is. I personally believe it will be Senator Barack Obama and if that is the way it is, I hope democrats show the republicans how tired of paying so much for gas and how tired of the real estate market falling apart you are. SAVE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY FIRST, then lend a helping hand around the world. Trust OBAMA and trust CLINTON they are both good Americans and I trust them to unite and get the job done in November. In closing this response I close with the highest respect for both democratic candidates and more importantly their supporters, because without us NOTHING can get done in Washington. OBAMA 2008.

Posted by: Lou | June 3, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Hilary will still be running when either Omama or McCain are elected president. The Clinton’s have no shame nor sense of reality.

Posted by: spencer | June 3, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

The actual bottom line is you can spin this anyway you want to but the truth is Obama is leading in (legal uncontested) popular votes that are not part of the flawed process of early voting in both states. I don’t think the people of Florida or Michigan are flawed, I think the political figure heads are flawed becaue they could have secured a legal remedy but they failed to get it done, so they made a mess out of things. I respect the passion of Clinton supporters and Obama supporters alike, there is a much bigger picture to consider here like the war in Iraq, our economy and taking back the White House. Both candidates supporters need to work together and UNITE the democratic party to make sure that CHANGE occurs in Washington. If we democrats spend more time uniting our party instead of fighting among ourselves so our collective voice is heard, that voice will rumble not only in Washington, but our voice will be heard around the world. I want all Americans to UNITE so we can lead the world arena positively. Vote democratic and accept the results that were reached by the DNC. I support the democratic nominee whoever it is. I personally believe it will be Senator Barack Obama and if that is the way it is, I hope democrats show the republicans how tired of paying so much for gas and how tired of the real estate market falling apart you are. SAVE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY FIRST, then lend a helping hand around the world. Trust OBAMA and trust CLINTON to unite and get the job done in November. In closing this response I close with the highest respect for both democratic candidates and more importantly their supporters, because without us NOTHING can get done in Washington. OBAMA 2008.

Posted by: Lou | June 3, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Even Hillary is on the same ticket. I won’t not vote for Obama.
If Hillary decides to run as Independent. OSAMA will have no chance whatsoever!
Hillary supporters, please help to send Obama back to where he belongs if Hillary gives up this race!
Obama is a fraud! Obama is a fraud! Obama is a fraud! Obama is a fraud!

Posted by: Dallas | June 3, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

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