Clinton Spokesperson: She Is Not Conceding

You got it wrong!!!!!!!!
McCain victory ’08

The Party’s Over, it’s time to call it a day.
They’ve burst your pretty balloon and taken the moon away.
It’s time to wind up the masquerade.
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid.
The Party’s Over.The candles ficker and dim.
You danced and dreamed through the night,
it seemed to be right just being with him.
Now you must wake up, all dreams must end.
Take off your make up, The Party’s Over.
It’s all over, my friend.

I applaud you, Hillary! Keep up the good fight! It won’t be over until the convention! You have 17+ million supporters that are counting on you to be their nominee for the President of the United States! Hang in there! As has already been posted, the ball is about to drop on Obama and Michelle, and we will see his demise…YOU ARE THE STRONGER CANDIDATE AGAINST MCCAIN! THE SUPERS WILL SEE THIS AFTER OBAMA IS VETTED! Rise, Hillary, Rise!

“Clinton Spokesperson: She Is Not Conceding”
It all depends on the definition of “concede” I suspect.

Many Democrats are behind Hillary staying in the race! This is a democracy and as long as the people still want her in (and the largest majority does), she should not be forced out by the left wing media or the Democratic party bosses.

“[I]am slightly* behind in delegates.”
Depending in the meaning of slightly. This is about semantic guys.

Then what was this about?
In an afternoon conference call today with about two dozen top fundraisers, Clinton strategist Harold Ickes spoke in very conciliatory terms about Obama, in contrast to his tougher rhetoric in public and on television, according to sources. He told the participants that Clinton wants to “significantly” help Obama, but he did not go so far as saying that she will announce withdrawal — that is the prerogative of the candidate.
Obama08

People go back to your familes. Raise your kids, say hi and visit your parents. Like it or not the world will NOT end after the next election. We may be in another war and some people that you don’t even know may die, but YOUR life won’t change too much from today. The President is a PR stunt. It’s the people who fund him or her that do the real dirty work. Your wasting all this time over and over again, arguing over the packaging instead of the package! It would be nice if you could direct some of this vitriol to some people you actually CAN hold accountable… like your representatives!!! Come on, get OFF these sites and get AFTER your representatives in congress who effect your neighborhoods, businesses and homes. Stop pointing the finger at each other an go after those who are REALLY in power. Then you be doing something productive, instead of cloning and attempting to impersonate the vapid rantings of Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken.

Perhaps she’s going independent with Lieberman as her veep?

I think she wants it now cause 2012 and beyond is not in the cards, I think Bill and Hillary will be divorced by then and that will ground her chances for the future. Bill hinted by saying he proabably won’t be involved in a campaign like this again ever..

What I find amazing is the fact that Obama is now being all nice with Hillary, paying her all kinds of compliments, what a great candidate she is, etc. He knows his a$$ is grass come the GE without her support and the support of her followers. I agree with ObamaKnew, just sit back and watch Obama and his supporters self-destruct!

Media Manipulation?? The only one pitting Obama and Hillary supporters against each other is Hillary. The writing is on the wall and has been there for a while. She has been given many chances to exit on good terms but she is more interested in her own needs than that of the Democratic party. She needs to be shown the door in force and Tomorrow night can not come soon enough. Because we will have a candidate for the GE on Wednesday!

who in the right minds will vote for her—–if by some chance obama is elimanated, backs out, whatever—it would be a cold day in hell before i or anyone i know will vote for that B*&*^…….period—-

I have been a democrat for over forty years and this is the first time I am ashamed to be in the party. This has been the most racist, sexist campaign I can ever remember. Every time someone questions Obama his campaign claims racism. The way his campaign went after Geraldine Ferraro because she dared state the facts is completely unbelievable to me. If Hillary does not win the nomination I will be voting for McCain. As for the notion of the Obama people only uneducated bitter white people vote for Hillary, I have five degrees and make a six figure income.

Why wouldn’t campaigning slow up for any candidate when the last primary is tomorrow??? What a bunch of garbage for a title — designed to confuse people and fuel opposition. On behalf of all the millions and millions of people and delegates who have VOTED FOR and SUPPORT Hillary Clinton, we CONTINUE to support her in this process and beyond. GO DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!

We have until August for the GOP machine to attack Obama with their arsenal and you can bet, it will be war and the GOP will win. In Denver, after Obama has been vetted for two months, the SuperD’s should come to their senses and see Hillary for the strong candidate that she is. It will be over for Obama and I will be thanking God for his demise!

Don’t quit, don’t give up.
I strongly believe the super delegates will change mind, switch to Hillary.
Every time, when people do things in hurry, they make
mistakes.
If the super delegates are in hurry to make
endorsement, they will make mistake, and this mistake
is huge, it will drag the country to the wrong
direction, and for many years, it will be more
difficult for future president to make correction. So,
do right thing at the beginning.

WHY ISN’T OBAMA CONCEDEING?
obama lost the popular vote, attempted to stop the American people from exercising their constitutional right to VOTE, harassed and pushed superdelegates to support him BEFORE the vote ended!
Will obama resign on Tuesday as he did the other day from his church?
obama – just go and NEVER return!
we don’t want the likes of you!

Sotero
This is a war between Hillary Supporters and MSM. If Hillary is not the nominee we will vote McCain and show the door to MSM

Sorry Clinton supporters. It really is over. The sooner you get behind Obama the better for our country. We can’t afford 4 years of McCain.

There is no doubt that the Democratic Party is Obama’s party now. On Saturday Obama had the votes to get HIS resolution for Michigan passed, the 50% and 50% split. However, his being so magnanimous to the loser, I mean Hillary, demonstrates how nice he is playing and how much power within the party he enjoys. His team went there and came out victorious.
Bye Hillibilly!!!

It’s very funny when I read Hillary supporters who try to bring up skeletons in Obama’s closet. As If the Clintons don’t have baggage. If United Airlines charged the Clinton’s for the amount of baggage they carry she wouldn’t have any money to loan her campaign.

obama resignation speach:
I obama, resign from this race in SHAME as i have attempted FRAUD on the American people. I pushed the DNC delegates to allocate me VOTES that i never earned! I attempted to cut short the democratic process! I attempted to force the superdelegates hand to vote for me when the voting was still in process and when i knew for a fact that i’d lose the ONLY vote exercised to date: the popular vote.
I resign in SHAME that i have attempted to pull a zimbabwe on the American people.
obama, the crook
p.s. i will never attempt to run again

You go, girl, all the way to the convention…we are right behind you and if the DNC stabs you again we will show them a defeat in November!!! And that will be their comeupance!!!!!!!

OBAMA is the nominee. Hillary can ride this to the convention and destroy the party but OBAMA IS STILL WON. PERIOD!

I just got a GREAT idea!
Hillary should hire Fleetwood Mac to go on national television to sing “Don’t Stop” as a symbolic gesture of her epic race! Wouldn’t that be neat?!

Shall:”Over 17M voted against her. Don’t those votes also count”
Usually we hope to think that votes are for someone as opposed to being against someone. Of course that hope doesn’t appear likely come November.

yeah her scenerio of winning the popular vote DOES NOT include the caucus states that Obama creamed her in. Again her argument is weak, and it’s sad her supporters are so stupid they fall for it.

Hillbilly Hope, why do you think the Republicans put forth such a weak candidate as John McCain? He doesn’t even have the support of the entire GOP. They were “saving” their “better” candidates for 2012 because they THOUGHT they knew Hillary would be elected this year. She was a shoe-in until Mr. Charisma came along and threw a wrench into the machinery.
Republicans know Hillary can beat their candidate, but it’s questionable who would win between Obama and McCain. Most polls show them statistically even at the moment.
Anyone who thinks the Republicans are hoping for Hillary is mistaken. Hillary can wallop McCain, but McCain has at least a CHANCE against BHO.

yeah her scenerio of winning the popular vote DOES NOT include the caucus states that Obama creamed her in. Again her argument is weak, and it’s sad her supporters are so stupid they fall for it.

Why wouldn’t campaigning slow up for any candidate when the last primary is tomorrow??? What a bunch of garbage for a title — designed to confuse people and fuel opposition. On behalf of all the millions and millions of people and delegates who have VOTED FOR and SUPPORT Hillary Clinton, we CONTINUE to support her in this process and beyond. GO DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!

Clinton is definetly the stronger candidate. If Obama is sooo great how come he still loses states by large margins. If they announce Obama as the nominee I am not switching my party but my family and friends are definetly voting for McCain. Obama is not ready to be president.
Hillary or McCain 08′

All this talk about not voting for Obama does not surprise me. It would not surprise me if he loses in November either. Americans are clueless morons when they choose presidents, and then they whine, and whine, and whine, and whine about how terrible their lives are. Well, you should have known better in 2000 and 2004, the signs were very clear. And you should have known better in November 2008, when you vote for John McCain. Boo hoo, but you don’t deserve sympathy. You deserve ridicule.

jimt, I think I agree with your position. On this (and every) forum, Hillary is being blamed for “tearing the party apart”, but this is misplaced blame.
The Democrats had an EASY victory in November with Hillary Clinton against Old Man McCain, but the DNC power brokers have thrown away this golden opportunity.
Now BOTH parties have unelectable candidates, except that ONE of them MUST be elected. What a strange year this is!

so agree, americans are morons and the rest of the world will keep laughing at us when they elect bottom 5 from his class John McCain for president. After electing GW Doofus Bush for 2 terms, nothing will surprise me.

Average Joe writes: “THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT OBAMA!”
They have spoken, and oh yes, they do!
“JUST GO, DISAPPEAR, VARNISHED…”
It’s Hillary who’s getting the shellacking. She’ll be gone, shortly.

The truth is – Congressional members of the DNC never wanted to have a Democratic President because who ever comes after Bush’s failed policies, would have to come up with the painful plan to fix it – and get blamed for it. It will take more than eight (8) years to dig out of the deficit that Bush II left for many, many generations of all Americans to pay for. The trend is that, when president’s win, their party takes a beating in the middle of the four years. Pelosi and Reid are too interested in keeping their cushy Congressional jobs and blame a GOP president, rather than look into the interest of the American people.
Because guys and gals, republicans, democrats, or independents, we’re all Americans. We’re all getting screwed at the gas pumps, inflation at grocery stores, unemployment lines, jobs shipped offshore, foreign conglomerates corrupting our institutions, our soldiers dying or coming home without limbs, no social security nor health care. It’s time to put the partisan politics aside and think of our old, our young, our future and our present. We’re all in this together. If we’re not in it to win it, then it’s all for nothing.
The real question is – who has the better chance of beating McCain?
Average 1.8 (Hillary wins over McCain, 3 of 4 polls)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html
Average 0.7 (Obama barely over McCain, statistical draw, 2 of 4 polls)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
Michelle (Vaughn Robinson) Obama’s Racist Thesis
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html
Obama needs 2118 to clinch. Do the math. He has 2070. There are only 31 votes in South Dakota and Montana – so even if they all go to Obama, he’ll only have 2101. Now some pledged super delegates can sway and try to give him the vote. But their “promise” is just that: a promise without consideration. It’s illusory and non-binding until August in Denver – super delegates can change their minds up to the day of the actual convention. Allot can happen in by August – as in delegates figure out that Obama has been trending down the last couple of months and losing the of majority middle-class, working White, Asian, and Hispanic voters to Hillary.
UNDISPUTED FACTS:
1. Hillary won in 17 large, mostly BLUE states (and 297 electoral college votes) Democrats have any realistic chance of winning – Arizona (10), Arkansas (6), California (55), Nevada (5), New York (31), New Jersey (15), Texas (34), Tennessee (11), Ohio (20), Florida (27), Michigan (17), Pennsylvania (21), Kentucky (8), New Mexico (5), Massachusetts (12), West Virginia (5), Indiana (11), Rhode Island (4), and Puerto Rico (Commonwealth).
2. She already proves she can take 297 electoral votes. To become president you need only 270.
3. These mostly BLUE states have the majority of the Electoral College votes – which determines the presidency.
4. Unfortunately, Obama won in mostly RED states where mostly GOP out number democrats 3:1 – so it’s Gore, Kerry, and McGovern all over again.
5. Obama won in the Republican majority RED states of Alaska (3), Oregon (11), Washington (7), Idaho (4), Utah (5), Colorado (3), Wyoming (9), Oklahoma (7), Kansas (6), Nebraska (5), North Dakota (3), Minnesota (10), Wisconsin (10), Illinois (21), Alabama (9), Mississippi (6), Louisiana (9), Georgia (8), North Carolina (15), Virginia (13), Hawaii (4), DC (3), Connecticut (7), Maine (4), Vermont (4), Delaware (3), and Maryland (10).
6. Even if Obama won all these RED states all he has are 199 electoral votes. Well short 270 needed.
Therefore, as we much as we once respected Obama, until he didn’t offer Hillary the VP spot to unify the party, he is not going to beat McCain.

I find it interesting the whining about the conspiracies (pick one) against Hillary’s nomination. She was the anointed queen and through mismanagment and poor organization, she lost. Her campaign manager was one of those voting against seating Michigan and Florida pre-Super Tuesday, then he was appalled that the DNC had the audacity to seat them with half their votes. This is what most of the Democratic Party has been forced to watch…double standards, whining, contrived statistics…it’s time for the truth. Hillary lost, fair and square. Bill is upset because he is going to be out of the limelight and away from a new crop of interns. Obama will win in the fall if the people saying they would never vote for him decide they are not predjudiced and if they don’t want four more years of Bush. You can carry the battle to the convention and destroy the party, or you can help move the country to a better place.

Obama 08
who would have ever thought that obama would be the nomniee god works in so many ways. a new guys beats the potical giant hillary clinton. oh ya he did and big time……

Washington Post editorial stated today that the surge in Iraq is working!! What will Obama criticize McCain and Hillary for now? Obama said he has not heard any military personel state that the surge was working….well, you need to talk to the military first, like Petraeus..to get that information!!
Which Obama has NOT talked to anyone for the truth!! He also stated that he wants to reduce the military and take down all of our military defenses..that is the most dangerous thing I have ever heard. Wake up, Obama supporters!

Actually, here’s a more accurate figure
This includes Michigan uncommitted to Obama and an estimate of the caucus states. He’ll beat her in Montana and SD most likely too. Educated folks up there.
Obama, 17,961,505 48.8% Clinton 17,916,838 48.7% Obama +44,667 +0.1%

Party Unity – Obama has his share of baggage as well. The difference is that Hillary’s baggage has been all over the place for years so the shock value has worn off. Also, her baggage has to do with personal matters. Obama, on the other hand, is relatively new and the more that keeps coming out, the more shocking it is to middle America. His baggage has to do with religion, patriotism, corruption, etc. His baggage is totally different as they have barely begun to get into his personal past.

Never Concede
You have your right to run.
The majority of the people want you.
Going to get rougher, The DNC is running scared. They are pulling out all the stops. To fix the election and insure you get no more votes.
I could of never imagined, that my own party would play so dirty against the people, the voters.
Nancy pelosi and dean are working over time on this. The Democratic Gods and polticial fixers.
They actually would stoop to anything to get Their candidate in office. Which is the first time in my life I am scared to death.
This is a historical primary, The fix has been on for a while, but it just took a critical spin to insanity.

I laughed through reading what bloggers have written.
Calm down Hillary supporters. It is not your fault neither Hillarys.
I blame the media. They planted the false information right from the beginning that Hillary is innevitable. This stuck in a lot of people’s mind including Hillary.
Its still there, and to let it go and face the reality seems difficult to them.
Sorry, politics is never fair, you have to face the reality and wait for the BELL!

Hillary’s a great leader. She lead her losing campaign straight into the gutter and $30 million dollars of debt. Imagine what she could do with the federal budget. haha.

SD and Montana polls..Hillary is closing in baby…Super delegates are in a meeting right now. Don’t count your chickens yet.

Clinton: 17,673,329
Obama: 17,355,652
DELEGATES HAVE VOWED THAT THEY WILL NOT VOTE AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!
Obama is readying his resignation speach!

The GOP could not have planned this any better… sometimes fact is stranger than fiction. McCain owns the white house come January 2009.

Obama was doing better before all the information came out about the bigoted church he has attended for 20 years and Hillary didn’t start out all that well. Once the information started coming out about Obama, he didn’t do as well. If the information had been public before the Feb. primaries, this race would have had a totally different ending.

I think the superdeligates have got some dirt on Obama, that has not become public yet because the republicans were waiting for Obama to get the nomination. It is hard to believe the DNC would just throw the election away on a someone like Obama who has so much going against him. He would have had a better chance if he had represented the typical black American, I don’t think most black americans have the kind of bad friends and connections that Obama has.

Doublestandard:
You ask WHY Obama’s not winning in places like Puerto Rico? It’s because he’s being a good sport and not running up the score in the last period – to use a sporting metaphor. He knows he’s won mathematically and rather than feeding the fire, he’s done nothing but compliment her. He’s letting Hillary “do her thing” unopposed. He’s doing everything he can to let her “save face” and bow out gracefully and to try to create party unity, but she’s taken this opportunity to further divide the party. This whole thing where she said Fla and Mich should NOT count and now says they should count (like people are too stupid to forget her previous position) is for the birds! Also her recent tact to incite our gender (women) into seeing her inability to win as gender bias rather than her lack of organizational and financial skill. I wish for Hillary the best, but for the sake of the rest of us who would like to have our country back, I hope she uses her sharp wits to concede while somehow undoing the divisions she’s created.

Hillary is leading in the
SD
60-34
Obama in Montana 48-44

Hillary won HUGE in PR and will be winning SD.
Clinton: 17,673,329
Obama: 17,355,652
DELEGATES HAVE VOWED THAT THEY WILL NOT VOTE AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!
Obama is readying his resignation speach!

Got some more from “real clear politics”
Here’s the vote count:
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA and MIchigan uncommitted to Obama, the count is :
17,961,505
With the same stats as above except for the uncommitted part from MI… the count for CLINTON is
17,916,838
So, to me, it looks like 17,961,505 is *greater than* 17,916,838. So the POPULAR VOTE lead still goes to Obama (admittedly, it’s small)
Please argue with the FACTS here..

You got that richt Rick anyone but a Clinton to bring our country down again
Clinton only wishes she were ahead in the popular vote.

Thank God Hillary’s not conceding. Why should she?
How long will the media try to tip the scales in favor of this paper candidate, Sen. Obama?
Hillary Clinton has won all the big states, save IL, she won all the swing states we need to win in November and is ahead in the popular vote. Her numbers with crucial voter demographics are much higher than Obama’s — why in the heck should she get out?
With those numbers, not to mention all Obama’s questionable associations and baggage and his paper thin record, why wouild anyone in their right mind nominate him??
If Hillary is not the nominee, I leave the party and take many with me.

Please Americansa the president of usa affects the world so think in terms of who is the best for the world. What Bush has done has been bad for all people and no wonder americans have a negative stand in the world. Obama is has alot of following all over the world unlike Hillary Clinton and McCain.
You will soon again be proud of your country with President Obama

BMAN–
I have searched CNN’s entire site and cannot find reference to those poll numbers.
I must admit I am suspicious as they don’t sound even close to correct.

She should quit but won’t quit. Why/how anyone likes Hillary Clinton is beyond me.

DAWN IS COMING
Wolf Blitzer said it on his program.
He said it twice.
60-34 Hillary in South Dakota

For all of the mistaken ones who are on here blogging about “Paul v. Clinton,” please take note:
Senator Clinton was dropped as a party to this case long ago, and Paul’s appeals to have her name retained as a party on the suit have been denied.
Even most of the claims remaining on this suit in regards to Bill Clinton have been dismissed, and it is expected that the remaining ones will also go the same way.

Why are all the Clinton backers waiting for something to happen or come out about Obama. Have you all forgotten all those nasty things in the Clinton closet…Whitewater, the suicide of Vince Foster, Monica, China lobbyist and campaign financing, Impeachment, last minute pardons lobbied by Hillary’s brother, the pending fraud case in California, etc. What do you really think that could fall out of the closet on Obama that the GOP would love more than a dozen well documented scandals of the Clintons?

Average Joe – What about the 32 states that Obama won? Don’t tell me — you have some reason why they don’t “count,” right?

Enough already……
Clintons need to just GO AWAY !!!!

The DNC has only $4.4 million in the campaign funds. They cannot pay for a Convention. They are desperate alright for contributions. HRC is deep in debt. Her supporters should start sending in money instead of just commenting.
I like another Obama supporter refuse to contribute one red cent to the DNC to hold a Convention for HRC to take to the floor that she did not pay for to cause chaos. So, either pay up or accept the facts. Put your money where you mouth is.
All through 2007 and into January 2008, HRC was the annointed winner based on her assumptions and presumptions. I never supported her. Had enough of them the first time. Bill Clinton used social security IOU’s for his much touted budget success. Go read up on that one on an official SS website.
Other Dem candidates were quickly knocked out by the media annointing HRC as the inevitable. Who was complaining about her having 100 super delegates even before the primaries or caucuses started? They did not even know the outcome. Now you are complaining about super delegates. Talk about changing the rules near the end game! She had no long term contingency plans, no cushion of money, or competent staff. If Obama could blindside her and her 700 plus campaign staff, then he does have what it takes to be a President.
I am a nearly 68 year old white grey-haired still working LOL in Texas. Other Texans can speak for themselves only, not for me.
And, McCain who claims to be more knowledgable about the Mid-East does not even know let alone really understand the fundamental differences between Shia and Sunni, as in Catholic and the Protestant Reformation slaughters, as in the Spanish Inquisition against Protestants. The two sects hate each other but will unite if bombed and/or pushed by the West. Doubt he even knows which is where in what countries either. His war was in the jungles and he paid for it. We are now in more of a desert type war in a new era with new weaponry where the old tactics no longer work. Boots on the ground and non-coms usually see more of the truth in any warfare. You think they are going to tell it to reporters?!
I have no time either for VIP’s making PR visits or supposed fact finding missions to Iraq to be diverting troops for security, talking primarily to Generals, being told by selected soldiers that the war is going great, and meeting vetted so happy you are here Iraqis. etc. A good show with name stars would probably be more of a morale booster.

For the love of…what does it take? Hillary conceed already. You’re behind, you’ve been behind, you’re going to stay behind. And quit going around trying to be slick and steal this nomination, that would explode this party completely! Do you work for Karl Rove??? Don’t go around saying you have a better chance against repubs either because it is simply laughable at best and you’re hurting your own party supporting Karl Rove’s agenda!

Wait a minute !
We, a big part of the Hillary Clinton supporters and surrogates are demanding to go to Hillary Clinton to go to the credential committee, to fight, to go to the convention in Denver and to back us up to fight for our candidate who we believe, the one we gave our energy and put our faith in it.
We believe Hillary Clinton will fight for us and we demand a fight, filing lawsuits and making the case.
HILLARYCLINTONTILLVICTORY@OURTIME2008.ORG
YES, WE CAN !!

First off is not the plan to pick a winner…so the democratic could win..well in all reality the Michigan and Florida votes should count…the democratic party is dumb to omit them..or only count 1/2 of them it really does not matter about the penalty…in reality the American people voted for Hillary when all is said and done that is the reality…( the majority of Hillary’s supporters are the Democratic party not a fly by night group who decide to vote democractic during this election) when they penalize those states they created an inaduequate picture of a real winner and electable candidate…they are not using the entire picture of a viable candidate…so by penalizing the states it is in reality selling itself short on a viable candidate..using the Democratic math they pick a losing candidate which was picked by mostly Cacuses and not big states or primaries..in a general election these causcus wins will again amount to a losing general election…if the candidates were more identical and Obama’s bagage was not still being unloaded and all about bad judgement, poor decisions, no real policies of his own other then change and not such a backhanded flip flopping Chicago politician , mistrustful phoney then the democratic party would have a good candidate but an Obama candidate is a political machine made and backed in a back room by the Political establishment…Write in for Hillary not a vote for Obama and his leftist ideas..or even a Mccain vote is better then Obama

Go Hillary,
“She has a statistically SMALL number of nut job followers who clearly have some psychiatric issues related to fanaticism.”
———————————-
WHAT? The only fanaticism I see are the Obamabots blindly following their Cult leader. Put down the koolaid and the crack pipe.

And what will they worship Hillary for? Putting up with a philandering husband? Ducking sniper fire? Screwing up health care when she had the chance to do something? Ruining the Democrats chances in 2008? Tell us.

Is there anyone who still believes that Hillary doesn’t care for the country, just for herself? The country doesn’t need another arrogant, lobbyist-driven administration. Don’t want another Bush/Cheney-like secrecy. HILLARY GO HOME, or even better in a remote island far away.

Nothing will make me vote for either Obama or McCain. For the first time, I’m sitting out an election. I just can’t support either one.

dell – You claim that Clinton won more of the core Democrats. Maybe. But that just means Obama won more of the independents who voted in the primaries. If Obama does better among Independents, that makes him more electable in the fall, right? That is what you said, isn’t it?

This has been a very, very confusing campaign, even more so because of Dr. Gov. Howard Dean’s call for SUPERDELEGATES, who are supposed to vote only at the Convention, to DECLARE their preference BEFORE the Convention. Most have done so, by endorsement, but an endorsement is not a vote and it cannot turn an UNPLEDGED DELEGATE into a PLEDGED DELEGATE. Actually, Dr. Gov. Dean, Senator Reid and Senator Pelosi, all should know better than to have started the firestorm that is now raging.
Consider this:
Total number of Democratic Delegates = 4,048
One half of 4,048 + 1 = 2,025
Superdelegates to vote at convention = -795
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
before convention = 3,253
Less Florida PLEDGED = -185
Less Michigan PLEDGED = -128
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
before Convention before May 31 = 2,940
Plus Florida PLEDGED Restored May 31 = +92.5
Plus Michigan PLEDGED Restored May 31 = +64
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
Before Convention as of May 31 = 3,096.5
Total Obama PLEDGED DELEGATES
As of June 2, 2008 = 1,738 *
*Includes actual and projected PLEDGED
Total Clinton PLEDGED DELEGATES
As of June 2, 2008 = 1,625#
#Includes actual and projected PLEDGED
Obama needs to win before Convention = 287 PLEDGED DELEGATES
Clinton needs to win before Convention = 400 PLEDGED DELEGATES
Original number of SUPERDELEGATES = 795
Plus Florida (13) and Michigan (14.5)
Restored SUPER DELEGATES = 27.5
Total SUPERDELEGATES to vote at the
Convention = 822.5
The above analysis based on numbers from the New York Times of June 2, 2008.
Total number of PLEDGED DELEGATES available in MT AND SD = 31
Latest ARG polls for MT and SD from RealClearPolitics:
Montana – Obama 48% and Clinton 44%
South Dakota – Obama 34% and Clinton 60%

I KNEW IT!
I am getting sick and tired of this!

The woman has done lost her mind! If I can’t have it, no one can, as she stomps her feet and holds her breath. Just the type of personality I want running the free world…NOT!

Together, you and I have celebrated a string of incredible victories. We’ve made history by giving every American a chance to have a say in this race. And now that a winner has nearly made it to the finish line, I’m going to do everything within my power to stop him.
We’ve won the key swing states that will decide the race in November…most of which would vote for Obama anyway if he’s given a chance to campaign– and yes, that includes Florida and Michigan. Most important, we’ve won the most votes if you close your eyes pretend like the caucuses don’t count and that nobody in Michigan would have voted for Obama. There is no more powerful way to prove that I am our best chance to win in November of 2012 than for me to twist the arms of as many superdelegates as possible and sever the democratic party to the point that McCain wins so I don’t have to run against Obama again.
That’s why I am asking you to stand with me today. And I promise you, as I always have, that if you stand up for me now, I will stand up for you every day in the White House, and answer phone calls at 2AM, and make sure that Bill isn’t using the Lincoln Bedroom for late night “arrangements” (when I’m not renting it out to my best supporters). I’m also going to make sure I get all the furniture out of there that they made me return the first time.
Let’s face it. I deserve this.
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/

So now 2118 isn’t the final delegates needed? Here we go, change the rules again cuz I ain’t winning. HRC IS A HACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Angry Black Man
WELL SAID..

I didn’t vote for Hillary because she appeared to be too smug and felt entitled to the White House…like we owe her.I hope she gets kicked to the curb tomorrow.

Go Hillary! Obama, his supporters and the news have said it was his for almost 2 months. Even with all the pressure from the party leadership for Hillary to get out, the public has a different opinion. Obama has little chance of winning, even with Hillary’s support, without it he is a lost cause. He and his supporters deserve the treatment they have sowed. I hope she stays in until the convention.

Wild weather did not stop a few bitter people of Huron from coming out to see Hillary on Thursday. Dozens of voters turned out to see Hillary at Campbell Park, but due to inclement weather the event was moved into the Huron Events Center. Once inside, a packed house heard Hillary speak directly about the issues including our broken economy, the war in Iraq, veteran’s affairs and universal health care.
Voters eagerly listened on, as did an overflow room — more than 1,000 people battled the rainstorm to hear Hillary. Many who couldn’t make it inside stood outside for hours just to get a glimpse of the New York Senator as she drove by.
Their conclusion?
Wow. What a waste of time THAT was.
view
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/05/30/201610

Is it not time soon to ask Obama “will he leave or will he go”?
Let’s agree the popular vote is a tie. Why should superdelegates gamble the election on Obama. The more we got to know Obama, the less we liked him. He ran a negative campaign and is the least deserving.
Obama in the end should loose because he ran a negative campaign, unbecoming a president and that’s why Obama must concede. He get’s a VP, so don’t fret.
Clinton 08!

How come Hillary has been crushing him ever since PA? (With the exception of a few states).

Undisputed facts.
Obama will have won 33 contests.
McCain will have won 34.
And McCain has been running unopposed for 2.5 months.
Hillary’s a distant 3rd.
Popular vote, shmopular vote, by popularity Obama beats Hillary by as much as McCain, the only candidate left, beats Huckabee.
Why o Why does this insanity get press.
Alas, she won’t quit until the official vote. She may suspend, but she won’t concede. And contrary to what she thinks, she is toast in terms of presidential career, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS

If the DNC will not give Hillary Clinton the nomination, she should run as an independent! I will take a second job and give my all my earnings from a second job to her campaign. Hire me! Live in LA, CA.

I find it hard to believe that Senator Clinton and her supporters would be dismissing caucuses as undemocratic if the situation were reversed.
Frankly, I was pleased with Clinton as a second choice going into these primaries. I feel she has lost site of the big picture here, which is avoiding 4 more years of Republican rule. She is trying to change previously agreed-to rules in the middle of the game, as if the rules were designed specifically to ensure her defeat.
I am supposed to be in Hillary’s demographic, white, no college degree, below median income, and living in West Virginia, yet I do not have a single neighbor, coworker or friend who supports Mrs. Clinton. There has not been a single yard sign supporting her in my neighborhood, yet it is positively plastered with Obama support. He can definitely win the general election. We Democrats do not need to see the goalposts moved yet again. Obama will have the necessary delegate count by Wednesday. The semi-finals will be decided and there is no sense arguing with the referees or the crowd or the press. Her team will have lost, because they ran a disastrous campaign.

Michael in KS–
$35 mil would last less than a month in a general, not to mention she has over $20 mil in current debt.
That’s not a lot of money and she would get less in donations as an independent.
Not to mention today was the deadline to get her name on ballots as an independent.
So it is not happening.

McCain will win by a landslide in November!
Whote America won’t forget!
Obama is racist!
I hate him too!

How can you even stand to listen to her much less him..Can’t you see trash when trash is trash? Its time to take the garbage out of the DNC…Clinton..Clinto. Clint.Clin.Cli.Cl.C. SORRY HILLARY.
IT”s OVER ITS OVER ITS OVER
ITS OVER >>>>>Roy Oribsen

demsforHRC08–
He can win in the general election. He might not, but the possibility exits.
It’s odd how you seem so positive about something too far away to accurately assess.
McCain has run unopposed thus far and is a media darling. We don’t know what kind of information is going to come out between now and then about either one of them.
Show your intelligence by at least admitting there is a possibility that Obama will win. It does your argument no good when you take a stance that cannot be backed up by statistics, it diminishes everything else you say.

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Not since Scalia strong-armed his weakling colleagues on the Bush Court to appoint W president has there been a more egregious repudiation of democracy than the hijacking of the Dem nomination by the “God D@#! America” crowd. Just as Gore won the 2000 election with a majority of votes, Hillary has won the 2008 primaries with a solid majority of votes. But both are denied their just and due victory by the slimiest of tactics.
To provide those Dems with an IQ greater than their shoe size a choice in November, HILLARY MUST RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT!
The “Democratic” Party, RIP.
/

Murray
I thought they voted for Hillary, which do you want?

Shan
Democratic party was afraid of N1ggers
and had to go for Obama!
But American people do NOT giove FCUK!
OBAMA ND THE N1GGERS
WE WILL ROCK AND FCUK U IN THE FALL
GO MCCAIN!
I HATE N1GGERS!
BECAUSE THEY HATE WHITES!!!
WHAT A PIECE OF GARBAGE YOU ARE! YOU’RE VERY BRAVE USING THAT OFFENSIVE N WORD ON THIS POST BUT I SUSPECT THAT YOU’RE THE TYPE OF SALTINE WHO WOULD CUM ALL OVER YOURSELF AT THE CHANCE TO MEET MICHAEL JORDAN, TIGER WOODS, DEREK JETER ETC. LITTLE FAGS LIKE YOU ARE VERY BRAVE HIDING BEHIND YOUR KEYBOARD. TYPICAL TEENY WEENIE PENI SCUM BAG! YOU’RE CLEARLY A CANDIDATE FOR A PENIAL IMPLANT!

Hillary, we urge you to remain and fight this travesty and injustice of the party leaders. Why shouldn’t Americans in Florida and Michigan be counted and matter? What is wrong with these leaders? Whether in this party or as an independent, you can be assured of our support to elect you as the First Woman President of the United States of America.

Show us your friends Obama and we will repeatedly tell you what you are:
UN -ELECTABLE

i just woke up from my rum filled dream, ignore prior post

I absolutely cannot wait until Obama gets the nomination!!That is all the republicans are waiting for!! Then the real fun begins…more videos, more juicy trash about Obama and his un-American bigoted wife…just cannot wait to hear the Obamazombies then…..of course, Hillary did it!!!Or Bill did it, or ABC did it, or CBS did it, and then riot time!! This is going to be just like a first rate movie..oh, who is going to play Obama in the movie, ” RIOT ’08, ANYBODY GOT ANY SUGGESTIONS?

Joe Biden for President.
Bill Richardson for President.
Collin Powell for President.
Hillary Clinton for President.
John McCain for President.
SAY NO TO THE OBAMA:
RIDICULOSLY INEXEPRIENCED HYCORITE, RACIST, MARRIED TO AN ANGRY RAGING RACIST, G.D AMERICA CHURCH ATTENDING RACIST, UNPATRIOTIC, OPPORTUNIST, DISGUSTING LIAR OBAMA.

EVERYONE’S vote counts!!! That’s what I’ve always been told. Since when does the Democratic Party decide NOT to count Florida and ?Michigan’s votes (been so long, I’m not sure which was the other state the Democratic Party decided to exclude). This is ridiculous. If these two states’ votes don’t get counted in the primaries, I will NEVER vote again. That is MY promise to the Democratic Party. Not for McCain. Not for Obama. Just plain FED UP. Thank You.

Seeing how stupidly fanatical these Billlary supporters are, one of them will surely make an assasination attempt on Obama.

demsforHRC08–
You throw the word racist around too much.
You need to drop it, it reflects badly on you.
I would love to meet you in a nice dark alley sometime though. I am guessing you wouldn’t have such a big mouth.

We’ve won the key swing states that will decide the race in November — and yes, that includes Florida and Michigan. The next step is to trick McCain into not campaigning in those states by telling him there was some sort of mistake made in the voting rules. Most important, we’ve won the most votes…if you don’t count caususes or you believe nobody would have voted for Obama in Michigan. There is no more powerful way to prove that I am our best chance to win in November….of 2012.
That’s why I am asking you to stand with me today. And I promise you, as I always have, that if you stand up for me now, I will stand up for you every day in the White House when I’m having a meeting with President Obama.
View here.
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/

In keeping with their condecending campaign the Obama camp “planned surrender” offer to Clinton included Secretary of Health in a cabinet most likely not to happen.
Secretary of Health, that’s rich! Obama offers Clinton the job of explaining to people why his universal health-care plan fails to cover 15 million Americans.
Clinton beats Obama on issues, merits and character.
Clinton 08!

If the duck quacks … get it she’s a bitc0h. And she doesn’t deserve to be involved in any way other than to go home and kick Bills a-s-s because he couldn’t hand it to her. Some role model for wome, You should shoot a bit higher or are you so desperate.

roxanne – there won’t BE a democratic party to speak of after this is over if Obama is the nominee. He is unelectable.

Highly expected. She is already an Icon.

Personal, I don’t care about Israel, I’d rather focus on issues here first. Vote for McCain and send those soldiers to their death. It’s on your head.

I just signed up for the John McCain campaign!
One thing Obama changed, made me a Republican!

For the past two days the Obamicans have been pushing the rumor that
Hillary Clinton will concede the nomination on Tuesday night in New
York.
Just a short time ago Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee went to the
back of the campaign plane to talk to reporters. According to ABC
news, Elleithee said that’s not gonna happen. It looks like Hillary
is ready to rumble!
“I think its pretty clear that she is not conceding.” Elleithee
said, “I think its pretty clear that she is staying in this race.
She is going, in the coming days, to be aggressively courting
uncommitted superdelegates aggressively courting unpledged
delegates, making the case to them that she is a candidate best
ready to take on John McCain.”
When asked directly when Clinton will step aside, Elietthee told
reporters, “as she has said dozens and dozens of times she is in
this race until we have a nominee…Until there is a nominee she is
going to try to win support.”
He continued “until there is a nominee we are going to still
work to become that nominee. When asked when they would determine a
nominee would be selected –- because the Clinton campaign has
refused to accept fully the 2,118 number –- Elleithee said, “we’re
exploring — she has said before she wants to have this to be
resolved before the convention — we are reviewing our options.”
Jake Tapper is also reporting that Hillary has refused to accept the
new “magic number” of 2118. He sends this message to Obamicans:

“FOX News has learned that over the last 15 years, Trinity has received at least $15 million in grants from the federal government — in other words, taxpayer money.
Records show this money supported a variety of outreach: everything from low income housing to nutritional programs for needy kids to money for HIV/AIDS education. Wright blames the government for intentionally infecting the African-American community with that deadly virus.”
Obama’s campaign says he didn’t get this money for Rev. Wright. Obama’s campaign apparently did get $200,000 for Father Pfleger however.
Not bad for a group of people who hate white Americans.

I didn’t think anyone here had an example of Hillary having class.

murray190 – I don’t think it is who they support so much as where they are commenting. Angry people commenting on the internet are just more likely to have filthy mouths.
And your own: “your muslim buddy is getting his ass kicked” is a pretty good example! LOL

She won’t have any choice after Wednesday. Then, the superdelegate landslide to Obama will begin.

I would love to vote for a woman for president, unfortunatley, not Hillary.

Donna Brazile has been in the tank for Obama for months. I don’t know why she hasn’t declared herself. I guess she is pretending to be neutral when she isn’t as if we all don’t know. I used to respect her – no more.

How are Killary Clinton and George Bush alike? They did not plan for the long haul. He thought we would be out of Iraq by now reapting oil rewards while she figured she would be the nominee by now. If you can’t run your campaign how can you run the country? Ask Bush

I’m from Florida also, and I couldn’t wait for her to leave and stop pandering.

Average Joe, since you claim to have the exact popular votes totals, could you please enlighten us all as to how many votes Hillary and Obama each received in the caucus states? If you can’t answer the question (and not even Hillary herself can answer the question), then your totals are abjectly meaningless.

Some of you all are sad. Hillary lies and panders to whatever state shes in. Ohio Nafta ,WV Hard working ,PR Statehood. Luckily she came upon this strategy to late. Now she’s in SD talking about indians. She is PATHETIC. I don’t see how you all cannot she how she plays on your wants as if you are IGNORANT. Don’t let her play you for a vote. If you are color orientated. Pray for yourself. Don’t be mad about FL & Mich. You were already losing and still are. It’s not the DNC’s fault IT”S HILLARY”S FAULT for running a bad campaign.

Average Joe
LISTEN CAREFULLY YOU AND THE REST OF THE MORONS….THE POPULAR VOTE IS NOT HOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DETERMINES THE NOMINEE! CLINTON KNOWS THIS. ICKES KNOWS THIS. WHAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS DON’T UNDERSTAND IS WHY YOU DON’T KNOW THIS. BY THE WAY – ARE YOU ALL AWARE THAT JOHN MCCAIN WAS NOT BORN IN THE UNITED STATES? HE WAS BORN ON A MILITARY BASE IN PANAMA! I’M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY HE’S EVEN ABLE TO RUN. IT DOESN’T MATTER THOUGH. I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE DEBATES. WHAT A CONTRAST THAT’S GOING TO BE. A TALL STRAPPING WELL EDUCATED INTELECTUAL CANDIDATE STANDING NEXT TO A SHORT, STUBBY CRAZY ANGRY OLD MAN WHO CAN’T EVEN REMEMBER WHERE HE IS. MCCAIN HAS QUITE A TEMPER AND I CAN’T WAIT TO WATCH THE SPITTLE COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH AS HE SCREAMS AND TRYS TO COUNTER THE COOL CALM AND COLLECTED DEMEANOR OF SENATOR OBAMA!
“OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD INDEED”

Well, Hillary not sure what she wants to do but she better do it before or tomorrow because Pelosi stated that she will step in and end it. Pelosi state that this race will not go to convention.
So, Hillary needs to start packing it up now. Obama is highly favor to win Montana and South Dakota.

roxanne – John McCain’s parents were both American citizens, so it doesn’t matter where he was born.

Get your light bulbs on, you either Vote for Hillary and we get breaks on gas and food and a new jump start on econonmy
or if you turn your back we all get screwed and we will see high gas proces more and mroe and food prices will incline and no jobs, take your pick
you are either for the economy or for the trade of you life or a great Rrrrrrr
that word sound bad ot spell out but get the hint you either let Hillary do the job as her husband did well created jobs, or your againt jobs if you turn your back on her no one will have a job if you don’t in her

Donna Brazile has been in the tank for Obama for months. I don’t know why she hasn’t declared herself. I guess she is pretending to be neutral when she isn’t as if we all don’t know. I used to respect her – no more.
Posted by: Susan
I’ve got news for you Susan. 34 super delegats are coming out for Obama tomorrow!
Chew on that!

Has Hillary demonstrated herself to a relentless fighter? YES
Has Hillary run a “say anything, do anything to win campaign”? YES
Does America need an inspirational president with integrity right now? ABSOLUTELY
Obama/McCaskill 2008!!!

_If_ Hillary ran as an Independent in the GE against McCain and Obama, my feeling is that she would win. This would be similar to Conneticut where Lieberman lost the primary to an ultra liberal candidate and won the GE.
Obama will likely get the nomination because he was better organized in caucus states, he has 90% of the black and he has done well enough in other voting blocks. Hillary has won a large majority of the primary states and the most important states in a GE. If the nomination was based on a winner take all, Hillary would be the nominee. Democrats know how to loose an election.
Obama scares me with his Rev Wright, Pfleger, Rezko baggage. He will say anything to get elected, including dropping his church after 20 years. Of course he believes the same thing as the folks who were hollering and jumping up and down in the sermons. Ask Michelle. He is smart enough to know that he has no choice but to distance himself. Obama is such a crock!
Hillary is the best choice. She has experience and best plan to handle Iraq in a thoughtful way.
Hillary ’08 (anyone but Obama)

Mark Penn took out Hilliary’s left knee and Bill took out her right. She can’t blame THIS on a “vast right wing conspiracy!” Her own people were the ones who administered the fatal blows to her campaign. Don’t kid yourself. She managed this campaign just as poolry as her heath care debacle. And she may even lose New York after alienating the black vote. Hilliary was it really worth it?

: Bill
She can’t win anything after tomorrow when he reaches 2118. Why is this so hard for you folks to understand? After tomorrow there are no more primaries. The supers will have to put one of them over the top. This is what they’ve been waiting for. THE END OF THE RACE! GET IT?

Don’t you just wonder what the congregation really thinks of Obama? You don’t really think he did it for the sake of the church do you? NO, he thru them under the bus also. That’s exactly what he will do to all who voted for him. It’s only what is going to benefit him. Many, many voters will vote for McCain if he is the nominee and there is nothing Hillary and her committee can do to stop it. I wish she would tell the entire DNC to go to hades. They haven’t shown her the respect she deserves just like the media. I wish I had a tenth of her determination and intelligence. All the Obama bloggers that are so extremely educated should dream of being half as smart. I’ve watched all of this election process including the debates and she outspoke Obama in every one of them. She speaks fluently without all the uhs and duhs and stutters. If she were to go Independent I will vote for her,but I’m sure it would be political suicide. I really wish she could pull this thru for the simple reason all the people from the south aren’t ignorant rednecks like we have been portrayed. We are hard workers individuals that love our country and want what’s best for everyone. Gotta love Dixie. Go Hillary or McCain.

To jimt……Do you think that the Clintons really give a sh.t about you??Their main goal is to become the first husband and wife Presidents of America. Are you stupid?? Can you not see this? Also..do you and family go to church “Every” Sunday…get down on your knees and thank God for what you have? Do you also give 10% of your income every month to the church?? I didn’t think so.

roxanne is a MORON….
People should have to have an IQ over 100 to blog here. How someone cannot ascertain that when someone is born to US citizens, wherever in the world, that they are a citizen as well…is beyond me…
And they say Clinton supporters are uneducated…

GG, say what?

Hillary is SO inspiring. If even half of the people around the world stuck to their dreams and goals with this much determination – despite all the naysayers, detractors, bullies and theives (in their communities and in their minds), we’d have so many more successful and happy people.
This is not over! And I’m for Hillary all the way, even if I have to write her name on the ballot in November. But whatever the outcome, Hillary has become a hero to millions of people of all races, genders, and orientations.
Go Hillary!!!

Before this campaign started, I WAS a democrat. And now, I regret to say : I WAS a democrat.

On the caucus states what a joke Hillary Clinton wins Nevada by 5% and Obama gets more delegates than Clinton. Therefore disregard the caucus states the delegates awarded mean nothing. The news media of course keep quite and keeping pushing how many more delegates Obama has over Clinton and the race is over.
When President elect McCain is moving in the White House I am sure the Obama voters will still be blaming Senator Clinton too.

I’m waiting for a Hillary supporter to show me an example of her having “class”.

JUST ONE DAY, IT WILL END. The Hillary pestilence will end, one solitary day.
We can then re-teach our children about rules, honor, integrity, self respect, and most of all, truth.

Getalife, She is a classy lady fighting for the rights of children, women, and families. She is a fighter, that takes a lot of class.

McBush in the White House? Never! American’s simply won’t allow their White House smelling like Ben Gay.

If Hillary wins one state tomorrow the DNC is going to have to do whats right and give Hillary what she deserves….She has the popular votes …If they want to win in Nov against McCain they need to do whats right and what the people want …Hillary 08

Mr McCain does not see the big picture. Are we to remain indefinately in Iraq???? How many more young lives do we need to lose? Bring them home!!! His temperment is not one that would fare well with foreign leaders. He loses his temper too often. Doesn’t keep focused. Taxes??? He is in the tax bracket that benefits from the Bush tax cuts and will continue them. I am not in that bracket, and therefore am left out of the tax breaks. Sure, let’s give those with incomes over 150,000. per yr a break….geeeeeez louize

Some of you all are sad. Hillary lies and panders to whatever state shes in. Ohio Nafta ,WV Hard working ,PR Statehood. Luckily she came upon this strategy to late. Now she’s in SD talking about indians. She is PATHETIC. I don’t see how you all cannot she how she plays on your wants as if you are IGNORANT. Don’t let her play you for a vote. If you are color orientated. Pray for yourself. Don’t be mad about FL & Mich. You were already losing and still are. It’s not the DNC’s fault IT”S HILLARY”S FAULT for running a bad campaign.

NoMoreLies |
That last comment was hysterical! Thanks for the clarity! It’s kinda nice to see that many of you on this site or not only extremely intelligent, you’re also quite witty!
Obama 08

Getalife…
Why don’t you educate us on Hillary Clinton’s years of service? I suppose she hasn’t done anything good huh?
You are just a nasty person who must get pleasure out of calling our public officials names. Last I saw, George W was elected twice because people liked him. I myself actually know what Clinton has done throughout her life as well as the other candidates.
I do not lower myself like you to ask who has “class” and who doesn’t. Besides, it is a subjective term anyhow. I can say that you have not shown any “class” according to my definition of it.

Sorry – the white house smelling like Ben Gay is better than smelling like Afro-sheen. I believe americans are VERY much more racist than they let on. Obama will lose.

if i live another 100 years the one name i do not want ever to hear again.
hillwillary freaking clinton–it is like watching dirtbag tv—-wouldnt be half bad if she was not so damm ugly–and when she talks [lies]it is like scratching fingernails on chalkboard.

Remember the delusional Iraqi Information Minister who always denied that US forces had entered Iraq while you could hear gun fire in the background.
This is pretty much the Clinton campaign’s playbook. HAHAHAHA

nobama – “What is the new Larry Sinclair rumor about Obama,anyone has info?” – Something tells me you’ll ‘enlighten’ us.

hey gillis and i hope nowhere else–yuck

nobama I believe the latest Larry Sinclair rumor is about youmomma.

I have just signed my party affiliation change form from demoCRAP to Independent… I am apalled, disgusted and incomprehensibly angry to a point of HATE. The MSM were very sexist, the black candidate was very sexist, the dnc and party leaders were just as guilty because they CHOSE to stay SILENT… it is funny how the committee felt it was okay to steal Hillary’s delegates in Michigan, they are a bunch of maggots… donna brazilla, didn’t YO MAMA teach not to CHEAT!!! NOW, howard dean speaks out about sexism throughout this campaign… where the f*u*c*k was he and other party leaders 17 months ago??? oh yea, they were to busy protecting and shoving the black candidate down the throats of the american people… SHAME on you howard dean and all the others who CHOSE SILENCE instead of standing up for women’s equality… MLK would be ashamed of the black candidate and MLK would say this candidate has no CHARACTER, he who cried when compared to jesse jackson but made no effort to speak out agaisnt the use of the word w*h*o*r*e against Hillary during an event for his supporters in SF, this event was even posted on his campaign site…
the demoCRAPS will lose in november if they CHOOSE the wrong candidate…who will he copy from once Hillary is out? he can’t copy from mccain…I hope he falls and falls hard on his a*s*s, I will be enjoying every minute of it!!! and for those who were too scared to CHOOSE the only candidate that can win in november, I say go to H3LL!

dell – Thanks for categorizing the ‘true’ Democrats vs. the ‘fake’ Democrats. Is that kind of like how you categorize the states that should count when choosing a nominee and those that shouldn’t? And Obama supporters are called elitists…..

What’s for breakfast on Wednesday?
Hillary, she’s toast.
CLINTON TO DELIVER MAJOR SPEECH IN NEW YORK TOMORROW NIGHT.
Expected To Suspend Campaign… Major Donors, Supporters Coming… Bill: “This May Be The Last Day I’m Ever Involved In A Campaign Of This Kind”… Major Hillary Supporter Vilsack: It’s Over… Majority Whip Jim Clyburn Endorses Obama… CNN: Most Uncommitted Senators To Endorse Obama… Top Advisor: Clinton Wants To “Significantly” Help Obama… Obama, Clinton Speak About Post-Primary Coordination…
In other words, Hillary is history.
Obama 2008-2016

who is the democratic party–from what i am hearing sounds lik a lot of skanky old bags-and closet women

I think we should be making a long list of the people who have divided the country. Evan Bayh, Rendell, PR, West Virginia – and make sure they are out of any kind of control of this country. We have known since Feb 5th the nomination was over. Instead of uniting they chose to divide. I will not forget a single one of them.

dareal
those yellow buses are getting shorter

Denise Shull – there are death threats against Hillary all over the internet. Most of them are on the forums of Obama’s own website. They are usually quite graphic in details and violence, and typically included sexist slurs along with the call for her “assasination”.
The Obama-Bully-bots, for all their thug bravado and juvenile testosterone-chest puffing, must be terribly frightened of Hillary’s power. You don’t try to eliminate someone who isn’t a threat.
Deep down, they know that there is no deep down in Obama. Time is Obama’s worst enemy.
And to all of you Obama supporters who are participating in this call for the U.S. Senators death, keep two things in mind. One, you’re being investigated. Two, Hillary’s supporters will never forgive you or Obama for calling for her death. This is the change you bring? This is the new politics? This is thug and gangster politics. Splash some cold water on yourselves and wake up. Namaste, yes?

Puerto Rico has spoken loud and clear about who the most electable candidate to beat McCain in November really is: Hillary Clinton!
Superdelegates please take notice: Hillary is leading in the popular vote and she is beating McCain in the swing states.
Gracias Puerto Rico!!
A proud hispanic for Hillary!!

KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY – ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION – YOU are the only one QUALIFIED to be PResident of the USA!
The only think obama may STEAL is the nomination – without the MILLIONS of Hillary supporters – he will NEVER win the white house!
The supers better choose the BEST Qualified to WIN back the white house!
HILLARY OR McCAin – NEVER obama

I don’t see how bashing Hillary, calling her names, or bashing Obama, calling him names accomplishes anything on this blog. How about a little more restraint and FACTS. Did Michelle Obama really preach at the Trinity Church using racial slurs in her speech? I really need to know this one…..anyone know the real truth about this?????

did someone say death threats against hillary——should be lawsuits against herFOR ALL THE TORTURE WE ARE BEING PUT THROUGH—

For those of you who don’t know basic math but they believe whatever they tell them. READ!!!! write the numbers and then you will see who is winning the popular vote!!
If we include Florida (where Clinton won by 294,772 after neither she nor Obama campaigned) and the caucus states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington (where votes weren’t counted and must, therefore, be estimated), Obama leads by 134,746; if we disenfranchise those caucus states–which represent a net Obama gain of about 110,000 votes–he’s still ahead by 24,524. What’s more, if we give Clinton her 330,000 Michigan votes and award Obama all 237,000 of the uncommitteds–a flawed but roughly equitable proposal, seeing as experts project that the Illinois senator would’ve won a standard Great Lakes State primary by 80,000–he emerges with a lead of 44,605. Even with only 82 percent of these uncommitteds in his column, Obama wins the overall popular vote. And he’s expected to expand that edge by tens of thousands of votes on Tuesday with projected victories in South Dakota and Montana.

Average Joe – awesome video thanks!
After pasting the “you” and the “tube” together and adding the dot com, then pasting on the /v/ZAu39I5QOUc
I see what you mean!

Superdelegates please take notice: Hillary is leading in the popular vote and she is beating McCain in the swing states.
Gracias Puerto Rico!!
A proud hispanic for Hillary!!
Perhaps if you were actually able to vote in the general election it would mean something. The fact is that when Americans look for bellweather issues and solutions, Puerto Rico is not even involved in the equation! You’re not a state. You don’t pay taxes which is why you have no real say in these elections. Winning your common wealth is as important to our elections as winning the lotto! It’s nice but it doesn’t mean squat!
Entende!
For my fellow Americans that means UNDERSTAND?

No More Lies..
Puerto Ricans are American citizens. They are divided as what to do, but the majority want things to stay as they are.
It is a shame that you feel the need to trash our fellow Americans.

Jkan your a total idiot. Obama is leading in delegates and popular vote. What do you expect to happen? Every one over look these facts and give it to Hillary? And why? because she is Bill’s wife? Because she is damn good liar? because less then half of the democrats think she is better?
Hey here is a novel idea, lets nominate the winner, and who is winning again, Oh Yea the person who wears real pants, and not a pant suit LMAO!

ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!!
Do NOT GIVE UP!!
Obama is NOT Qualified and will NEVER be elected due to his WEAK, RADICAL, questionable background. We will ALL learn lots about our UNITY guy of CHANGE. Seems like it is already in the works!
HILLARY OR MCCAIN NEVER OBAMA!

roxanne…Puerto Ricans ARE our fellow Americans.
Are you STILL a Moron? You still do not understand what makes an American citizen do you?

Did Michelle Obama really preach at the Trinity Church using racial slurs in her speech? I really need to know this one…..anyone know the real truth about this?????
Noboby knows. Some say it’s just a BS story to attack Obama. Think about it..If there was a tape, why would someone wait to release it?
Loudmouth Sean Hannity was talking about it today. He said, it could just be bogus story that the Clinton or McSame camps put out in the hopes that the ignorant would believe it. He also said that the a lot of news organzations have called asking him if he has the tape. He also had a caller who said someone told him it was real but, nobody he knew or himself has ever seen it.
This rumor has been around for a few weeks now. Sounds like BS to me.

Hilary has now successfully turned the election into a joke.
A joke about Hillary Clinton.
It makes one cry.

Indie Here, I will trash any one who doesn’t know what they are talking about. I am a equal opportunity trasher. I do not discriminate. Why should I spare PR? Are they entitled to some special treatment like Hillary thought she was entitled too?

I need to go to a blog where there are more signs of intelligence. Nothing against Hillary or Obama supporters, but the comments are just stupid.

Mexicano for Hillary
Again, why are you Hillary supporters calling Obama racist? Any sexism by the Media is just that THE MEDIA!
can you give me an example of anything Obama has said that’s racist? Now remember, I said Obama. Not some preacher or some neighbor who supposedly was bombing gov’t buildings when Obama was EIGHT YEARS OLD and didn’t even know him then? Pleae, enlighten us all!

So are yours getalife…
debating about “class”?

300,000 votes AHEAD? Gut laughing here. What kind of FANTASY math is she using now?

roxanne – did you read any of Obama’s books?

I have heard about the tapes of michelle also, if mcshame really does have them or some swiftboat group, it is doom for obama, and after the proud of my country for the first time, is it really so hard to believe.

Nomorelies..
Sorry that I am unlike you and choose to take the high road. I choose not to trash my fellow Americans to try and prove a point. Though the points that you are trying to prove are futile.

The lady has a name….Hillary! Stop with the Hillwilly already. Whether one likes her or not, she is a lady…..a little respect for them all…….are any of us qualified??? I think NOT.

jmengate…
have you heard of McGovern? Look it up.
He was against the war, but his VP made him look bad. Obama has a lot more that makes him look bad.
The Dems have a habit of picking unelectable candidates, especially lately with Gore and Kerry. I wish they would give the voters someone more moderate. That is the only way to win over the independents.

For the last time, Hillary’s supporters need to start placing the blame on Hillary, for the position she in. Hillary is on record stating the primaries will be over by Fed 5, and it now June. She foolishly ignored the early caucuses and she is on record stating that caucuses would matter. It was a democrat governor who is vocal Hillary supporter who move up the Michigan primary. Hillary stated last October that Floria and Michigan primaries should not count. It was Hillary campaign who started out with a sizable “war chest”, and her campaign who foolishly miss spend campaign donations early on in the campaign. Hillary and or her advisers poorly miss judged Obama’s appeal. Hillary and or her advisers had catastrophic failure in strategizing for this campaign. Hillary and her supporters have blame the African American voters, media, and now sexism for campaign. Hillary and her advisers need to take responsibility for her failed campaign.

Hillary’s campaign didn’t start out very well, but she took over and finished strong. Obama got weaker as the campaign went along and there is more to come. Obama paid for the election. He outspent everyone on ads by almost 2 to 1. (Probably those ads he ran in FL when he wasn’t campaigning there.) Is that how he’ll run the government? Probably with all the earmarks he likes to give out to churches who hate America and the way he spends other people’s money.

Do any of you Obama supporters ever take responsibility for your actions? For months we have been listening to you and your leader trashing the Clintons. Now that you realize you can’t win the election without us, you blame us for his losing. Have you been attending the same church that Obama has for 20 years?
Posted by: Susan
Come on Susan. I’ve been practically begging one of you Hillary supporters to give me one example of Obama trahing Senator Clinton and none of you have been able to come up with one example. Again, I’m not talking about preachers, associates etc!
I’ll wait while you come up with something!

i hear that hillwilly has a standing invitation on the jerry springer show—

Indie Here – “jmengate…have you heard of McGovern? Look it up.” – Thanks for the history lesson. What cracks me up is that Obama supporters are labeled as elitist. I guess at least you don’t sound bitter lmao.

Yep. JUST ONE DAY!

Indie Here, YOU REALLY ARE CLUELESS.
I am NOT a democrat, I have been a Independent since Ronald Reagan’s second term. I have voted mostly for democrats. Including Gore and Kerry! I also strongly support Obama!
SO WTF are you talking about? Obama is having no trouble attracting Indies. It’s the uneducated Clinton people he has a little trouble with!

joeforsure
the clintons are the most skanky people ever in the white house—i thought they would light the place with red bulbs

Obama paid for the election. He outspent everyone on ads by almost 2 to 1. (Probably those ads he ran in FL when he wasn’t campaigning there.)
SUSAN!
You can’t outspend someone unless you out raise them! This was one of Hillary’s talking points that you’ve picked up. Don’t you see the spin? Out spent means out raised! You’re now trying to trash him for out raising her?
She didn’t plan past February and once he began flooding the airwaves with ads she was forced to try to keep up, essentially spending the rest of her reserve just to keep up. Do you really blame him for competency? I say he runs the Whitehouse the way he ran his campaign. If she runs the Whitehouse the way she ran her campaign, we’d be entering Dante’s 9th Circle of Hell!

Susan – “Do any of you Obama supporters ever take responsibility for your actions?” – Actually, wouldn’t that apply more to the supporters of Senator Clinton? For example, I notice alot of people in FL and MI who are mad at Obama because of what happened in the primaries. Yet they’ll take absolutely no responsibility for electing their state leadership who decided to move the elections up against the rules of the DNC.

Rodney:
“i hear that hillwilly has a standing invitation on the jerry springer show—”
And Monica Lewinski is the suprise “other woman.”

Roxanne,
Last year Obama said that Hillary Clinton had a “character gap” or something of the sort, basically indicating she’s a dishonest person. That is in effect trashing someone from your own party.

Just laughed my tail off reading the posts at Hillaryis44.com. Its the Baghdad Bob contingent, at Obama’s coronation they will be standing around whining about how Hillary won. LOL. 48 Hours and the Clinton’s are gone!

murray190,
most people who voted for Obama were white and college-educated. What does that tell your dumb ass?
Yavo Lem,
Not only is he the stronger candidate according to the voters in all states, but he’s the more electable according to the superdelegates, including the ones who switched from Hillary’s camp to Obama’s camp.

jmengate, that is a rather weak response. Had the FL and MI people known this would have happened, they would have done everything NOT to elect those officials.
Justifiably they are upset at Obama because it is HE who was preventing a decent deal to be struck. All he had to do all along was nod his head, and there would have been no issue. Why he didn’t was a drastic mistake – he still would have won the primary – but now he has FL and MI voters quite peeved.

SandyB: I just checked the April Court rulings. Hillary Clinton is still listed as a material witness. Judge Munoz has ruled that she does not hav to be deposed until after the November elections. He has not dismissed her. I do not see any mention that any of the counts that were filed have been dropped. I do know how to read Court papers. Please refer me to a site with an update later than April 29, 2008.

Mexicano for Hillary
Something tells me that judging by Senator Obama’s height, his feet are infinitely BIGGER THAN YOURS! I’m detecting sever shrinkage coming from you! The women on this post know exactly where I’m going with this. Tall Dark and Handsome is cleaning Senator Clinton’s clock! Don’t worry tiny dancer – you won’t be deported providing that your papers are in order!

voteordie..
if you look at the overall election and the totals, the educated vote is pretty much split
I am not quite sure why you feel the need to go on about it all. Obama is close to being the nominee so why even bother worrying about what Clinton’s supporters say?
Do you REALLY think you are going to change anyone’s mind? It seems that you are just trying to rile people up.

Although I don’t agree with Senator Clinton’s way of doing things – I respect her dedication and tenacity. She will make a good Cabinet member or Secretary of State or Senate Majority Leader. I think Senator Obama has learned a lot from her – she’s toughened him up for battling McCain. I hope they can mend things since we need them to work together to defeat McCain. Let’s work to bridge the divide and make Senator Obama the next President of the United States! Go Obama 2008!

I feel sorry for Roxanne…always spewing hate :-(

roxanne – I’ll give you one example, but you probably won’t get it. From the beginning, Obama has been saying that Hillary didn’t have the judgment to be president because she voted for the Iraq resolution. That was his standard stump speech. Do you think that a person should be judged by one action? The funny thing about that statement is that Edwards and Kerry, Obama’s supporters who wanted to be president, also voted in favor of the resolution. I never heard him say they didn’t have the judgment to be president although he must think it.

NoMoreLies..
Why do you feel the need to put down 1/2 of the people from your own party?
Do you really believe that by saying such hateful things gets you anywhere?
Does it make you feel better?
What a shame if it does.

Roxanne, in case you didn’t know, Puerto Ricans are US CITIZENS and many of them have served and are serving in the U.S. Armed Forces. Also many of them reside in both the US and Puerto Rico(they alternate between the two). The Puerto Rican vote is very significant because it really represents how Hispanics feel. And by the way I am NOT from Puerto Rico. I am a Hispanic living in California. Hillary 2008!!!
Posted by: VioletZ
But Puerto Rico doesn’t vote in the general election! That’s why that victory yesterday was symbolic! If you can’t vote in the general that means those votes yesterday DON’T COUNT!
If you live in California this doesn’t apply to you. What the hell are you talking about? Ugh!

DON’T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn’t it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children’s suffering.
With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.
The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton’s do very well.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party’s back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.
You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don’t let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.
And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”

Reality – it’s so over. We have two Democrats that can beat McSame. Only one can win. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, is over. The reality of math has been marching to the outcome since Wisconsin. We were just playing out the game.
But still both are very much more qualified to be President than McSame. Time to face the “only one winner” fact and get on to beating the party of ideology instead of reason. The party of “I got mine”. The party of killing the and forgetting our troops. Time to end it.

susan
when willy was selling us out with nafta and china trade agreements–hillary was his errand person–i am suredue to thinking she would be a shoe in for president they were working on a nafta type agreement with columbia-perhaps they have something to fear.as then along came obama

I vote based on the candiate, NOT based on the party.
Ronald Reagan is Republican, I like him.
I like Hillary, doesn’t mean I will vote for ANY Dem. If Obama is nominee, I will DEFINITELY NOT vote for him.
Posted by: golfgirlusa

Rodney..
I guess many of the other Dems were dumb too huh…for voting for NAFTA. I am quite sure the Dems in your own state supported it. But do YOU even educate yourself to know which ones. Just google it…then you can bash them as well to make yourself feel better.

roxanne – I’ll give you one example, but you probably won’t get it. From the beginning, Obama has been saying that Hillary didn’t have the judgment to be president because she voted for the Iraq resolution. That was his standard stump speech. Do you think that a person should be judged by one action? The funny thing about that statement is that Edwards and Kerry, Obama’s supporters who wanted to be president, also voted in favor of the resolution. I never heard him say they didn’t have the judgment to be president although he must think it.
Posted by: susan |
Nice try Susan but if that’s all you have remember that Hillary kept saying and is still claiming that she’s best qualified. Now these are political statements from both. Where are the racist or sexist comments from Obama to Hillary. The, He’s not a muslim as far as I know? Where’s Senator Obama’s counter attack to her “I’m winning the Hard Working White Americans votes?
Where’s his I can win all the Hard working Black Male Votes comment?
Face it Susan, you couldn’t find anything. The questions is, will you now at least admit that?

Thats what got Hillary in the spot she is in to begin with. Obama ran a smarter campaine both in management and money. Some people say Obama bought the win but thats because he had a better team and pulled in more money. Nothing wrong with that. Hillary will make the same mistake and assume she can beat McCain. If she cant beat an unknown Sen from Ill how will she beat the whole rep party and McCain. The SDs know this.
She should stay in until it starts hurting the party as her right. I suspect the SDs will give her a clear sign and very soon as who they consider the winner of the nomination. But goodluck Sen Clinton and I really mean that. I will vote for you no problem but right now am a Obama supporter.

Yavo Lem,
Not only is he the stronger candidate according to the voters in all states, but he’s the more electable according to the superdelegates, including the ones who switched from Hillary’s camp to Obama’s camp.
Posted by: voteordie
========================================
SUPERDELEGATES mean nothing until the Convention, which takes place in Denver, Aug. 25-28. Actually, they are supposed to keep their minds open and their mouths shut until them, but it looks like a lot of them got it backwards. There sole responsibility is to ensure that the candidate chosen is the STRONGEST AND BEST one to win the White House for the Democratic Party in November. Their responsibility is to the party and not the candidate. To do otherwise is to be false to the party and derelict in their duty.
When you say Obama is the stronger candidate according to the voters in ALL states, then please explain why he has only 224 electoral votes to 308 for Clinton. Even if for some very strange reason he wins both states tomorrow, he will only pick up 6 electoral votes. By the way, you only need 270 electoral votes to win. So, when you look at it, he has won in big states with small populations, while Clinton has won in the important states. Right now he may have a lot of SUPERDELEGATE endorsements, but until the Convention, they don’t count.

Rodney…
more on Nafta:
October 2007: Obama is the first presidential candidate to officially declare his/her support for the NAFTA expansion moving through the Congress. His announcement is not necessarily surprising, considering he was the keynote speaker at the launch of the Hamilton Project — a Wall Street front group working to drive a wedge between Democrats and organized labor on globalization issues. His announcement comes just days after a Wall Street Journal poll found strong bipartisan opposition to lobbyist-written NAFTA-style trade policies.
Any other comments about NAFTA? How about bashing Obama over it?

If Obama people really don’t believe Clinton supporters will defect to John McCain en mass, they will get a rude awakening come November 3rd.
My vote goes to the best candidate regardless of party and THAT IS NOT OBAMA.

The drawn-out primaries have kept the media attention on the Democrats, which is good. That way, McCain is hardly ever seen, but we also need to realize that this drawn-out process is fracturing the Democratic Party – just like the Republicans want! We can’t play into their politics of divide-and-conquer. Let’s rise above that so we won’t have a third Bush term. Keep your eyes on the Republican agenda! They want us to keep fighting. Don’t fall for their tricks. Remember the goal is to elect a Democrat – not Bush’s buddy.

I see the racist anti Obama losers are all here now. Wonderful. The Clinton portion will be finished by wednesday the latest, and the the McBush portion will be trampled on in the GE.
It’s in the air folks. Real change is on the way! The kind that could never come from old relics from the past like Clinton or McBush!
OBAMA 2008

I didn’t know you were only looking for sexist/racist comments roxanne. I hadn’t thought of it as a sexist comment, but I guess when the only person he is saying doesn’t happen to have the judgment to be president is a woman and he didn’t say that about the men who voted the same way, I guess one could ascribe a sexist remark to it. Read his book for racist comments. Attend his church for 20 years and tell me he isn’t a racist. Look to his calling women he doesn’t know as “sweeties” and then tell me he doesn’t have some racism/sexism issues. And be on the receiving end when he “you’re likeable enough.” And he certainly is an elitist.

I cannot understand why so many “professional journalists”, including those of ABC, do not get that Senator Clinton, cannot and/or must not
“concede” the pres. nomination to Senator Obama. He must win it, or she must lose it. Otherwise we continue to do business as usual.
It has become so apparent(at least to me) that our country has much to do to insure equal opportunity for women especially in government. If Senator Clinton stepped out now, she would do what the male establishment has made previous female political figures do and “women’s equality,etc.” would still be a phantom. The very fact that Senator Obama has so little “concern” about these struggles of women in our history (doesn’t even seem to know of Shiley Chisolm and her fights)speaks reams itself of Obama’s naivete. A little awareness on his part would help UNIFY the party, and the country. If he cannot even talk about the gender issue as a real issue it will be an uphill battle to win the presidency.

indiahere-dont matter how you cut it –slick willy was president and signed both—-even bush senior vetoed the attempt—-when willyhad chinese sleeping in lincolns bed i surely knew what he was up to.-now we all know–problem is how do we stop it surely not by putting another clinton in office–as it most certainly will happen again.

The media & Obama people are trying real hard to push Hillary out of the race.
If Hillary comes out and say she will take it all the way to Denver, her supporters will replenish her campaign accounts maybe as much as $10-$20 million instantly.

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sara | Jun 2, 2008 8:08:16 PM
Average Joe – awesome video thanks!
After pasting the “you” and the “tube” together and adding the dot com, then pasting on the /v/ZAu39I5QOUc

I agree Dell and it nice to see that you do not resort to name calling and nasty comments.

Hillary has had the most votes cast for her. Do you really think all the uncommitted votes went to Obama in MI when Richardson, Biden, and Edwards who also took their names off were also in the uncommitted category? Just becuase the DNC Rules gave him the delegates, doesn’t mean he got all the votes. What math are you doing?

JA – I gave a weak response because I expect the voters of FL and MI to hold their leaders accountable? I can’t vote in either of those states so what do you suggest? Unfortunately, I think it’s that kind of logic that have given us two terms of Bush/Cheney.

Oh now you want to talk about politicians and their stories. I never said that Hillary wasn’t a politician and capable of telling stories or misstating facts. But don’t think that Obama isn’t just as capable: Selma speech where he was already 4 yrs. old; Rev. Wright – he didn’t know the guy was controversial but he didn’t want him to be at his coming out party because he was controversial; 57 states in the U.S.; he is leaving the church but not for political reasons, and so on. Obama is the one who said he was a different kind of politician and above it all; I didn’t hear Hillary say that.

Susan
Give it up! Who was the first person to call Senator Obama an elitist?
The Senator who’s worth over 100 million dollars! As for his church!
I couldn’t care less. I don’t even go to church anymore. I haven’t since I was a child. Try to remember that Senator Obama is running for president – not Trinity church. Also, are you aware that during the Monica Lewinsky and subsequent impeachment scandal, it was Rev Wright who went to the Whitehouse and prayed with the Clintons?
Did you know that? More importantly, it’s probably stunning to you that Senator Obama knows this but has never mantioned it. Do you think if the situation was reversed, Senator Clinton wouldn’t have brought this to the nations attention? As for calling the female reporter sweetie, he did call her personally and apologize for it. On the other hand, after repeatedly cheating on his wife and lying to her and the American public, he has never come clean! Calling someone sweetie is no where near the humiliation that Senator Clinton has endured from her own husband. I remember during the debates she kept saying “You can’t pick your family but you can pick your pastor! Well she was wrong there too because can pick you family-namely, your husband and she did a bang up job there. She kept saying she would have left the church. Well most feminist would have kicked him to the curb but political ambition was more important to her. How’s that working out!

susan – “What math are you doing?” – Actually, that’s the crux of the problem. We have a situation where both candidates are spinning things to show that they have more votes. Votes shouldn’t be something you can spin, but we probably both agree this is a somewhat flawed process especially when you have leaders in MI and FL who seem determined to bend the rules. The question is, where do we go to from here?

I don’t know roxanne, 20 years with one pastor and you’re not getting anything from his sermons when everyone else knows he is controversial. I don’t know that I can buy that one.

ryan
If Obama people really don’t believe Clinton supporters will defect to John McCain en mass, they will get a rude awakening come November 3rd.
My vote goes to the best candidate regardless of party and THAT IS NOT OBAMA.

SOURCES:
OBAMA IS WRITING THE RESIGNATION SPEACH!
HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE AND RECOGNIZES THAT DELEGATES HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT THE POPULAR VOTE WINNER!
HE WANTS TO UNITE THE PARTY AND QUITS!

I know where I’m going. It doesn’t matter to anyone but me, but there may be thousands of us.

VERY GOOD!!!!! YOU GOTTA SEE THIS!
Posted by: Sara | Jun 2, 2008 8:08:16 PM
Average Joe – awesome video thanks!
After pasting the “you” and the “tube” together and adding the dot com, then pasting on the /v/ZAu39I5QOUc

susan
i hope it is not too hot

Susan, one more time! Who is running for president? Trinity Church?
Why can’t you separate the Candidate from the nutty preacher statements? I’ll try to give you a better analogy!
I have a cousin who hates white people!
Now, my mother didn’t rais us that way so if anyone tried to associate his remarks with me, I’d be both angry and confused because that’s not who I am!
Do you understand what I’m saying?

Ann – “ryan If Obama people really don’t believe Clinton supporters will defect to John McCain en mass, they will get a rude awakening come November 3rd.” – And you realize that would be the nail in the coffin for Senator Clinton being able to run in 2012, right?

What’s happening Susan? Are you still trying to digest the fact I just gave you about Rev Wright going to the Whitehouse and praying with the Clintons? I’d love to hear your thoughts about that little tid bit!

I think Average Joe has been smoking a little bit too much of the whacky weed.

Hillary, Na,Na,Na,Na,Hey,Hey,Hey Goodbye!

WILL OBAMA BOW OUT GRACEFULLY?
SOURCES INSIDE THE DNC ARE ASKING IF AFTER THE MESS HE MADE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OBAMA CAN STILL BOW OUT GRACEFULLY?
HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE AND WILL BE FORCED TO FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE DESPITE ALL EFFORTS TO SHORT CIRCUIT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
WILL OBAMA BOW OUT GRACEFULLY?

I made it play – thanks! awesome joe!!!
Posted by: Sara | Jun 2, 2008 8:08:16 PM
Average Joe – awesome video thanks!
After pasting the “you” and the “tube” together and adding the dot com, then pasting on the /v/ZAu39I5QOUc

one good bashing to MCcain on iraq and anyone with childred or friends there will have nothing to do with him–it is ever so convenient for republicans to make it look like we have succeded—but dead is dead no matter how you cut it—AND FOR WHAT that is my question.dont tell me about mass destruction weapons–terrorists etc.all a bunch of crap to justify war–NOW FOLLOW THE MONEY.

I am done with the Democratic party!
I have never voted for a Republican so far, McCain will be the first!
I’d vote for anyone against Obama!

Kate
GLAD TO SEE YOU GO!

I think I’d rather have the heat than the cold wind that you’re going to feel in November.
Posted by: susan
You mean like the arctic blast coming through tomorrow?
I’ve posted on here earlier that the fact that she won’t win the nomination is already a win for this country. We’d rather go down swinging with Obama!
We’re all just thrilled that she’ll finally have to get the hell off the stage!
Sadly this is how much she is hated personally! You can all call Obama an empty suit or racist which is just ridiculous considering he hasn’t been preaching hatred in that church but none of you seem to have any personal hatred for him the way many people do for Clinton. Again, it’s your right not to like him or want to vote for him but I just don’t see the personal hatred! You have to admit that is says a lot about Senator Obama! I’m very proud of the way he’s handled Senator Clinton. He’s a true gentleman. Remember that it was a female reporter from one of those public radio shows that called Senator Clinton a whore! Senator Obama has not called her any names and all of you on this website have to admit that!

We are winning the war in Iraq!
Surge is working!
May 2008 was the lowest rate of death total!By the way, if anyone belives Obama will bring troops home back, they are kidding themselves!
he will handle a slow process, which may cause Iraq war to go back to it’s deadliest times before surge!
Hillary was the only one who would have ended the war in Iraq quickly!
But we should not end the war, we MUST win the war in Iraq!
GO JOHN MCCAIN!

You ask WHY Obama’s not winning in places like Puerto Rico? It’s because he’s being a good sport and not running up the score in the last
period – to use a sporting metaphor. He knows he’s won mathematically and rather than feeding the fire, he’s done nothing but compliment her.
He’s letting Hillary “do her thing” unopposed. He’s doing everything he can to let her “save face” and bow out gracefully and to try to create
party unity, but she’s taken this opportunity to further divide the party. This whole thing where she said Fla and Mich should NOT count and
now says they should count (like people are too stupid to forget her previous position) is for the birds! Also her recent tact to incite our gender
(women) into seeing her inability to win as gender bias rather than her lack of organizational and financial skill. I wish for Hillary the best, but
for the sake of the rest of us who would like to have our country back, I hope she uses her sharp wits to concede while somehow undoing the
divisions she’s created.

On some days and at some level I agree with what Rev. Wright has said. I just don’t think that someone who has attended this church and listened to this man for 20 years should be president of the UNITED States and I am a fairly liberal person. Perhaps if Obama were VP for 8 years, I would get to know him better. However until I understand him better and he gets more experience, I am not willing to support him for President given what little I do know about him. And I am afraid that the mere fact that he says he doesn’t agree with Rev. Wright is just not enough. I’ve learned that politicians will say anything to get elected.

America is proud of Barack and Michelle Obama. The problem is that we don’t have enough people like them.
Jim, I am a white female. You are a white male. Obviously you are angry and
full of hatred. Who are you exactely, a Nazi or a KKK?
Go treat yourself and heal your hatred.
Hatred is a desease. It will eat you up.
America is proud of Barack and Michelle Obama. The problem is that we don’t have enough people like them.

Average Joe – awesome video thanks!Posted Jun 2, 2008 8:08:16 PM
After pasting the “you” and the “tube” together and adding the dot com, then pasting on the /v/ZAu39I5QOUc

He did campaign in PR but he knew that he was losing and he didn’t think he needed to waste the time there. He campaigned in SD and Montana, didn’t he?

I think, judging from her tenacity, she will stay even when the whole country is telling her it is all over, and even after a different president is announced to have won the actual voting after December.

Hillary Clinton u selfish slut. It’s over! Go home to ur cheating husband lol.

On a stop at a restaurant in Rapid City, S.D., on Monday, Sen. Clinton showed no sign of defeat. “We’re going to make our case to all of the delegates as to who would be the best president,” she told supporters.

“On a stop at a restaurant in Rapid City, S.D……”
When you eat at a restaurant in SD, you know its over. Poor HRC….

There’s some follow-up news to the Democratic Party’s rules committee’s decisions over the weekend.
First of all, it seems that even though the committee voted to give the delegates from Michigan and Florida only half a vote each at the convention, they will end up getting full votes.
..
On the second point, about the Michigan delegation: The Clinton team is outraged that the committee arbitrarily assigned 59 delegates to Mr. Obama, whose name was not on the ballot. And they are even more outraged that among those 59 were four that were “hijacked” from Mrs. Clinton, as Harold Ickes, her top lieutenant, put it. (Based on the popular vote, they say, Mrs. Clinton should have received 73 delegates but the committee gave her 69 instead.)
How could the committee simply take votes from one candidate and give them to someone else? Isn’t that, um, undemocratic?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/us/politics/03web-seelye.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

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America is proud of Barack and Michelle Obama. The problem is that we don’t have enough people like them.
Posted by: Neta | Jun 2, 2008 9:33:24 PM
Please speak for yourself! Some of us do not share your delusions.
Rise, Hillary Rise!
Hillary ’08 or McCain ’08

Americans have many questions about Barack Obama that are not being answered. It has become a communal mission to try “to get the truth out about Barack Obama.” Actually, if the news had covered Obama as business as usual, I doubt most people would have even looked him up so much. Here is a conglomeration of Barack Obama concerns which can easily be found ALL OVER the internet. I am not going to include every American concern, nor am I going to go into extreme detail, and I am not going to provide every link to every website because there are far too many. We Americans expect that responsible and ethical journalists with integrity will explore and verify or debunk these concerns and report on the truth. We Want The News. We demand Barack Obama be vetted. I want to give you an insider’s look at what people are feverishly discussing about Barack Obama on the internet. Look up almost any thread on any political forum and you will see the questions being asked. Here is an example of a plea for investigation that is commonly found on the Internet

Sorry I needed to give you that important information at the beginning. Here it is again…http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/thread-4-michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/#comment-306519

Virginia Independent
Rise??? What are you a witch trying to raise the dead?

With the way Hillary has been treated by the DNC an the MSM, she should get together with the Mayor of NY, an run as a Third Party Candidate. I think she would win hands down. I also go along with Pres Clinton when he said that Sen Obama will lose in Nov. How long can the MSM cover for his mistakes?

Obama supports you guys dont realize that we Hillary supporters not mad but when general election comes I will vote for McCain as a protest vote period. Obama needs the states which Hillary won whereas he will have to put Ms Clinton on the ticket and it will be the most powerful ticket guys; However, I will vote and support that ticket 100 percent. If he puts someone else on the ticket then I will protest my vote.

Susan…Go to a suite called No Quarter. There is information that is supposed to come out soon and it will be SUPER!!! I have known that Michelle and Obama were dangerous people but when this comes out so will the Obamabot. Only they wont’s admit it.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/thread-4-michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/#comment-306519

By the name of Allah and muslim prays Obama has won the nomination,
Barrack Hussein Obama will be your president Americcaa!!!

Susan…I meant site. I was typing too fast.

Suzan, you are angry. We get it. Cheer up…I’m sure another will win the presidency. Just not HRC. You Feminazi’s are funny!

Look up the word “elite”.

Dog Sh1t
DS
SHUT UP!
Obama will not be around soon!
he will be gone
GO MCCAIN!

LOL…damn Rush had it right. Operation chaos worked perfectly. McCain in ’08!!!

Me thinks Suzan and Dan are one and the same. Happy Pride!

hillary and mccain should be on same ticket—-ugly old closet queen and a senile old man—super team

Jim? Jim? Where are you? Come on!

Jock59801…I bet there is. Coming to a TV station in every living room.

Sorry, Pam, Hillary is smarter then that.

Hang in there Hillary we need you. Stay with it. Obama and Michelle are going to have a coming out Party.

carolyn – I bet there isn’t.
All of you rumor mongers can’t even agree on what is supposed to be in this video. No one has seen it because it doesn’t exist. It never happened. Lies do not come true by saying there “might be” a video.

Pam, get real. If you knew “Hillary Insiders” you wouldn’t be posting here. LOL Like the bag lady who tells everyone she’s a millionaire!

Pam…I pray that that is true. Hillary we support you 100%. I don’t care what party you run under. You get my vote and my husband’s and all of my friends too!

Hey Carolyn..thanks for the “no quarter” link. That’s great stuff about Obama. It’s just a matter of time before the jig is up for his campaign!
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/thread-4-michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/#comment-306519
You need to check out “Larry Sinclair” info on You tube as well. Obama has a mountain of problems heading his way!

Trish -
Larry Sinclair is a 3 month old lie. It doesn’t get any truer the third time around.

OBAMA will scuk my c0ck in November!
it is latge size and only for Obama James! He will need it after loosing to McCain!

George,
That is just not nice.

Well, what have we learned? As exhibited by the HRC supporters here, Sweetie Clinton has the angry women’s contingent sewn up. Shocking! LOL

jock59801…Is Pastor Manning of Chicago lying about Obama’s past as well?

Don’t tease me, come on Jim, let’s hook up!

Michelle and barrack Obama are pukes!
I register everyday at least few Hillary Clinton supporters for McCain lately!
McCain will win by a landslide!

Susan -
Obama doesn’t seem very short-sighted to me. He is about to be come President of the United States.

I am George Alex!
I make it clear here, i am not the same person with the other people!
I hate Barrack Obama!
I wish him and his wife Michelle hell the rest of their lifes!
GO MCCAIN

Sari…Thank you for that list of superdelegates and their choices. I want to always remember their names in the future. They will be the people that will be laughed at and unelectable if they ever run for office when they find out about Obama and Michelle’s dirty politics. I e-mailed it to myself so that I can open it and print it out.

It does not make any difference. Not one candidate is talking about the impending energy situation other than to day “we have to eliminate our dependence on foriegn oil.” No kidding. Not one candidate is giving specifics on how to do this; all the energy we need is right here in North America but Congress will not allow anyone to get it. The prices we are paying at the pump is being caused by Congress, not OPEC and not Big Oil. Do some research if you do not think this is true. Alaska has filed a lawsuit against the federal government because they will not allow the state to get out the enormous amounts of natural resources located within its borders. McCain, Clinton, or Obama….you are going to pay way too much for your gas and heating energy because the government is totally disconnected with the people.

Fabulous video!!!
Posted Jun 2, 2008 8:08:16 PM
Paste “you” and “tube” together and add dot com, then paste on /v/ZAu39I5QOUc
Worth it, LOL!!!

by: Susan
Susan, why would the ticket be Clinton/Obama when Obama is WINNIN?
Your math skills are as limited as Senator Clinton. Let’s see if I can explain this to you. When someone is leading that makes them the first place candidate.
Oh and Randy – go take your little blue pill. It was invented especially for you folks!

Barack Obama stole (and I mean that literally) 59 delegates in Michigan: 4 from Hillary Clinton and 55 from Uncommitted, a legally recognized presidential status. In a tactical error, Obama took his name off the ballot, and now a handful of political hacks at the DNC have set aside fundamental principles of election and constitutional law to effectively reverse his voluntary action.

I am so much irritated by barrack Hussein obama!
hussein? what is it man?
This is America NOT Saudi Arabia!
I will vote for Mccain too!
I was for john Edwards first, than Hillary is ok, but
NEVER EVER OBAMA!
NO FCKING WAY!!1

If we include Florida (where Clinton won by 294,772 after neither she nor Obama campaigned) and the caucus states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington (where votes weren’t counted and must, therefore, be estimated), Obama leads by 134,746; if we disenfranchise those caucus states–which represent a net Obama gain of about 110,000 votes–he’s still ahead by 24,524. What’s more, if we give Clinton her 330,000 Michigan votes and award Obama all 237,000 of the uncommitteds–a flawed but roughly equitable proposal, seeing as experts project that the Illinois senator would’ve won a standard Great Lakes State primary by 80,000–he emerges with a lead of 44,605. Even with only 82 percent of these uncommitteds in his column, Obama wins the overall popular vote. And he’s expected to expand that edge by tens of thousands of votes on Tuesday with projected victories in South Dakota and Montana.

doublestandard – You asked “WHY is Obama STILL losing Primaries by huge margins?” After White voters learned that Obama is most likely a Black Nationalist based on the Church he attended – and still refuses to denounce – they began to vote for Hillary. Obama knew it would happen too – that’s why he said majority White Pennsylvanians cling to guns and religion. Beginning with Pennsylvania, Obama has been unable to win any primaries unless the States involved had large Black populations. For the same reason, he will loose to McCain in a landslide.

OK-For the last time! Since many of you are fixated on Rev Wright, would you care to respond to the fact that during the Lewinsky and impeachment scandal Rev Wright went to the Whitehouse and prayed with the Clintons?
By the way, Senator Obama is aware of this but has never mentioned it. How many of you think that if the situation was reversed, Senator Clinton would have kept that little tid bit to herself? See this is part of the change Senator Obama has been talking about! Go ahead. Respond! Anybody…Anybody…Buhler….Buhler!
Losers!

I cannot believe the stink Hillary supporters are raising. Sure it is easy to win the Superbowl if your the only team on the field. YOu can run up the points to a zillion. Come on, grow up. If Michigan and Florida had waited, like the rest of the states, they would have been very consequential. You break the rules, and you should be punished, or did they never learn that from their parents. Obama took his name off, as was required. Now that Hillary lost her dream (which she thought would be over by Feb 5)of being coronated president. I am sorry lady, you agreed to the rules, and you been shifting your position so much I am seasick. If she was the nominee, I would be big enough of a person to look at the policy differences between her and McCain. However it is not her, so Hillary supporters should do likewise. Swallow their pride, and base their decision on the policy differences between Obama and McCain. If Hillary hadn’t blown off smaller contests in the beginning, maybe the story would be different, but guess what she did. Now her supporters are complaining. GO OBAMA (oh yes, this is from a blue collar white male, from a rust belt state) Oh by the way, wanting to keep guns out of our schools is not going to effect our right to hunt quail, deer, pheasant, elk..etc. (yes I hunt as well). Finally, look at who wears flag pins ( 5 time draft dodger), or Jim Webb (one decorated marine). Hitler wore the national symbol everyday, and Churchill didnt. GO OBAMA!

HAHAHAHHA…….MCAIN WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER…HAHAHAHAAH..AHAHA…HAHA
WHAT A JOKE AND COMEDY!
ANOTHER 4 MORE YEARS OF GEORGE BUSH, CRUMBLING ECONOMY, MASSIVE HOME FORCLOSURES, SKYROCKING UNEMPLOYMENT, UNNESSARY WAR IN IRAQ, UNINFORMED NATIONAL SECURITY RISK OF MCAIN, RISING GAS PRICES, GRADUATES WITHOUT JOBS, LOW POLITICAL MORALS, ..AND THE LIST GOES ON.
I GURANTEE YOU! YOU WILL VOTE OBAMA AS NOVEMBER IS WAY… A LONG TIME AND REALITY SETS IN EVERYDAY, MORE OF GEORGE BUSH – NEVER!
YOU ARE BEEN VOLUN-TOLD TO VOTE OBAMA
I AM JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY UNEDUCATED FOLKS ARE BITTER, CLINGING TO THERE GRUDGES (GUNS) AND BITTERING OCCUPATION AS A POLITICAL DRAMA UNFOLDS.
WAKE UP FOOLS, EITHER OBAMA OR CLINTON.
BOTH ARE BETTER THAN MC-LAME! WHO IS CLOSER TO A HEART ATTACK AND LOSING HIS BEARINGS.
THERE ARE 4 MORE INDEPENDENTS TO ONE HILARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS EXPONACIALLY GROWING SINCE NORTH CAROLINA.
SO THE TRUTH IS OBAMA DOES NOT NEED HILAARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS TO WIN IN NOVEMBER. HIS VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IS A REPUBLICAN – STANGEST IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICAN POLITICS.
THIS GUY HAS CHANGED THE FACE OF POLITICS IN AMERICA.
WAIT TILL FRIDAY UNTIL HE MAKES THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

The word elite has A GOOD AND POSITIVE CONNOTATION. Look it up in the dictionary. I would think I have died and gone to heaven if someone said I was elite or I was an elitist. Wow. What a COMPLIMENT it actually is. In fact, according to the dictionary, in politics, the elite are the heads of the parties. For example, the actual President (Bush) and his top people; the heads of the Republican and Democratic committees, and whomever actually has AUTHORITY in the party to make and set policies. In fact, for a long time, Hillary Clinton was a PART OF the elite group, and by being FOR her husband, she was an actual “elitist”, because he was elite. IN NO DICTIONARY DOES ELITE MEAN SNOB. It means POWERFUL, and able to make decisions that stick.

Hillary Clinton still out-polls both Barack Obama and John McCain in Electoral Vote surveys even in a climate of overt misogyny and sexism, even though the media has stopped treating her like a contender, and even in the face of criticism by officials in her own party for continuing to participate in the election.

All of you Hillary supporters that say you are going to vote for McCain. Go, go vote for McCain. We don’t need idiots in the Democratic party. Then, I look forward to your whining when you get exactly what you voted for. I need to find the stock symbol for the corporation that makes Kleenex. I need to buy some stock.

RossiMa, you’re just stupid I guess b/c you sure can’t count! LOL!

Character issues impact Obama regarding his many hateful long term associates. He is therefore a poor and a weak candidate for the Democratic party to select. Unfortunately, Dean and Brazille tried to select him, not the voters, in light of the following facts.
Even if all of the uncommitted votes in Michigan were given to Obama, Clinton is estimated to win the final popular vote by 30,000 plus votes after Montana and South Dakota. Of course we all know Obama made an error and did not have his name on the Michigan ballot, so the actual vote margin for Clinton will be about 270,000 votes. (Undecided in Michigan got 238,000 votes.)
That is quite a nice win. All we need to do now is to insist, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, that the vote winner, Hillary Clinton, be nominated to beat McCain in November. If it goes to the convention in August it is only because Obama wants to steal the nomination, even though he lost the vote.

Bluecollarguy and keith, you’re exactly right! Also, that greasy little weasel Harold Ickes actually wrote the bill that would cut the delegates in half to punish MI & FL. This is why it was so disgusting and disengenuous of him to sit in that meeting on Saturday with is rightouse indignation crap!
What a bunch losers they all are!

RossiMa – Nobody stole anything; there wasn’t anything to steal. The elections were not legitimate. Clinton said so herself. But the DNC had to give MI and FL something to calm them down, so they came up with something. They did not apportion delegates according to the primary because the primary wasn’t legitimate.

Barack Obama — the candidate who promised to transcend race — threw the race card around in this campaign without shame and with no apparent regard for the long-term consequences to the reputations of two loyal public servants, the Clintons, or the long-term impact on society.

Barack Obama, if not directly, suggested that white voters who chose Hillary Clinton over him by 30 and 40-point margins in some states did so because of racism, when HE is the one hanging out with, praying, and doing god-only-knows-what-else with his band of racist friends and preachers.

Keith asked, “Your pastor has never said anything you disagree with?” I have had pastors that I strong disagreed with and I very quickly left the Church based on the Bible – John 10. Obama stayed in that Black Nationalist Church for 20+ years and still refused to denounce it. Obama for months referred to Wright as his “former pastor” whereas in actuality Wright remained his Senior Pastor. Obama simply lied or, at the very least, attempted to continue to dupe the public. He confronted Wright and resigned as a member of the Church only because it was politically expedient. He did not do as the Bible commands and that is to “shake the dust off his feet.” The Bible makes it clear that remaining in a Church will defile a person just as dust defiles the bottom of one’s feet. Obama refuses to admit that the words of Wright, Moss and the Priest were defiling and a reproach to almighty God.

Roxanne
there will be no name callin unless its someone calling you a name… you obviously havent learned ethics or ettiquette … if you want to be an old horsey woman for Obama go right ahead but its not dignified and dignity is what carries the clintons and the campaign staff,…if anyone is a weasel its that sleazy cajun DOnna Brazile that thinks shes the queen… they need to get rid of every DNC member Dean is the weakest … no surprise… Obamas a clone of him…. there is nothing special or deserving of Obama and you are just out of touch!

Kieth requested, “Seriously, ONE HILLARY SUPPORTER, explain why Michigan and Florida should count now, when she voted they shouldt?”
That’s easy. Clinton changed her position and now wants to change the rules so that the people of FL and MI are not penalized, with the moral argument that she wants 100% of their votes to count. Her previous position did help the DNC prevent additional states from moving forward their primaries, and that did help the situation then, just as 100% counting of the votes is to help the situation now and enhance the chances the nominee could win FL and MI in November.

As I said previously, I don’t know the total story behind why or how MI and FL were penalized and where we got where we are. Given the group of people I saw on the Rules Committee, however, I can guess. The point is that it was wrong for the democratic party to do it in the first place. While they corrected it to some extend, it was too little too late, I fear.

Josephm20
I wish that were to happen… I guess the DNC members are bent on ruinging the country… there is no good that can come out of an Obama campaign,…nothing … let the young people and blacks seethe … they are Ill-prepared and Ill-suited and Ill-entitled

RossiMa
You are an idiot! It was the press who kept reporting that because they conducted exit polls and asked those people if race played a part in their decision and they were actually stupid enough to admit that it had!
Are you just going to keep making up this stuff? My cousin also admits that he hates white people but my mom didn’t raise us that way. See, you can’t associate the comments and actions of other people to someone else. WHY DON’T YOU GET THAT?
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
MORON!

superbad
ther was corruption and collusion on the part of Obamapeople-Karl Roves machine… Obama was kept out of the loop because he was the candidate… I fear if we dont do somethign about it… people will be talking about it 40 yrrs later like the corruption of Mayor Daileys father in Chi town who may have inflated some voter roles… therefore Kennedy may not really have won that election etc… there always will be corruption… the Clintons may be wiley but they arent corrupt!

Why has there been no reporting of the third pronouncement from Saturday’s DNC Rules Committee? “All children under the age of 12 years old are now…12 years old.”
Bananna Republic R us.
The decision on Saturday, particularly in regard to Michigan was fraud, plain and simple.
The vote in Michigan was held under the rules set forth by Michigan and certified by Michigan. The DNC, in the absence of a revote could either stick to the absurd proposition of seating no delegates or they could come up with a formula for sitting some lesser amount of delegates, but they could not willfully choose to fabricate vote totals based on whim, prejudice, or supposition. That is fraud. It is, actually, worse than the fatuous decision of the Supreme Court in 2000. It institutionalizes “discretion” in deciding what or whose votes are valid and what or whose votes are invalid. In other words, it embraces the worst of the Jim Crow South and gives us a democracy equivalent to that in the petty dictatorships around the world.
Obama chose to remove his name from the ballot in Michigan. He blocked a revote. He is the only one who violated the rules by running ads in Florida. Yet the DNC, in their infinite wisdom, granted him more votes than it is even possible he may have received.
The supposition that people may have voted for Obama under different conditions, presented as incontrovertible fact, is the most specious of self-serving reasoning. “People would have voted for me but it was snowing,” “People would have voted for me but they had to pick their feet in Poughkeepsie.” Total claptrap. How can any election in the future ever be decided?
Clinton won 73 delegates, the rest of the delegates are uncommitted. Period. Any other “decision” is false and illegal. Any other decision sets the most dangerous of precedents.
Obama is 59 delegates further away from “winning” before the convention than he is reported as being. It’s only virtually over if you’re a Nazi

Looks like Hillary is ONCAE AGAIN up for yet another wipe out in SD!
rise Hillary rise

Rossima
yea Hillary has an obligation… to take that up with the credentials committe I think… I think the rumors today were Republican operatives blowing smoke

Tonight, Lou Dobbs said they had received many emails suggesting Hillary join the Independents, if she doesn’t win the nomination.
I can go along with that.

Keith
Terry Mcauliffe knows and he said that out of 34 million votes cast (this was after NC and IN) only 1 million were from the caucueses and thats where Obama has gotten 90 percent of his lead… thats not physically or operationally possible… unless some Republican shennanigans took place! I could expect anythign since some voters were locked out of the caucueses and uyou dont know what goes on in there after they lock the doors… oh this was stolen… but we have to learn from it… and nmake sure a crook or someone associated with crooks doesnt get into the white house!

Keith – you are so ill-informed – like so many Obama fans, you know how to equivocate but not much else – who said this Country is made up of only Democrats and Republicans? I owe no allegiance to any political party’s platform – only the platform found in the Bible – and the Bible was not written by Republicans or Democrats. Grow up man!

Do we need to plan for HRC supporter to attend the convention in Denver?
Like the meeting in D.C. Only DEM can attend I believe?

“People have been trying to get me out of this race since Iowa…my political obituary has yet to be written…”
It’s not over until the votes are cast. It’s not over until there’s actually a tally that gives someone the nomination.”
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

Now she won’t accept the 2,118 delegate number? Does she want to create her own number now? What a shameless corrupted and fraudulent woman Hillary is!

Joshua Valentino – You don’t earn electoral votes in the primaries. You get them in November. It’s like, a whole different election. Doh!

JUST the FACTS – LET AMERICA DECIDE
1. Hillary won in 17 large, mostly BLUE states (and 297 electoral college votes) Democrats have any realistic chance of winning – Arizona (10), Arkansas (6), California (55), Nevada (5), New York (31), New Jersey (15), Texas (34), Tennessee (11), Ohio (20), Florida (27), Michigan (17), Pennsylvania (21), Kentucky (8), New Mexico (5), Massachusetts (12), West Virginia (5), Indiana (11), Rhode Island (4), and Puerto Rico (Commonwealth).
2. She already proves she can take 297 electoral votes. To become president you need only 270.
3. These mostly BLUE states have the majority of the Electoral College votes – which determines the presidency.
4. Unfortunately, Obama won in mostly RED states where mostly GOP out number democrats 3:1 – so it’s Gore, Kerry, and McGovern all over again.
5. Obama won in the Republican majority RED states of consisting of only 199 electoral votes. Win the primary battle but lose the election war with McCain.

I noticed that no one responded to my post about Obama being a Black Nationalist! Too much truth with which to contend? After White voters learned that Obama is most likely a Black Nationalist based on the Church he attended – and still refuses to denounce – they began to vote for Hillary. Obama knew it would happen too – that’s why he said majority White Pennsylvanians cling to guns and religion. Beginning with Pennsylvania, Obama has been unable to win any primaries unless the States involved had large Black populations. For the same reason, he will loose to McCain in a landslide.

JUST THE FACTS!
She did not have the vision to run an effective campaign.
She did not have the skills to properly manage either her campaign finances or strategy.
She does not have the commitment of the large majority of pledged delegates to the convention.
She has become a divisive figure, now at the highest levels of the party.
The party may seek to circumvent the will of the people, but this WILL destroy the party.
(Kudos to Tony in GA)
MORE DELEGATES.
MORE ACTUAL POPULAR VOTES.
MORE STATES.
PLAYS BY THE RULES.
DOESN’T WANT TO OBLITERATE ANYONE.
THINKS ALL STATES ARE IMPORTANT, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT HE WINS.(which is 32-17)
Obama/08
(Kudos to Jessica)

FIGHT ON, Hillary!
The rules said Superdelegates cast their vote at the convention. And rules are rules, right?

I had Obama supporters infected a prior news and spreading rumor that Hillary will close down her campaign.
One person suggest that we should all vote for BO. When I said that I can’t vote fore him because he’s inexperience. That person then said HRC can get the first 4 years but should agree to step down after 4 years, and let BO have the second 4 years. BO supporter hated the dynasty and wanted to pass the presidency like it’s a throne. LOL.

cristological
I understand that… but I think due to that fact Hillary can still slay that beast and beat Mccain in an independant run…. they said that Obama was the Trjan Horse…did you Obamaohiles stop to think it could be Hillary the Trojan Horse to get rid of Obama…bad ckarma from the Obama camp will come back to bite them hard!

Why aren’t people questioning her motives at this point. Because believe me she is not fighting for the people. Her & Bill has an agenda and it was a plan that was in place now before their final run in the WH. Hillary is lying to the Americans that she care about them because if she did care she would have conceded and backed the nominee.
If she finds a way to steal the nomination from Barack who has campained fairly and have been nothing but gracious to her from congratulating her when she win and speaking nothing but good, even when she slings dirt because that’s the only way she can win. I will not feel sorry for you Hillary supporters when she let you down on her empty promises. Especially the ones where Bill had a hand on and she promise to turn it around. I tell you they are up to no good and they do not care about us the American people.

Josephm20
yra did you see Ed schultz on Cnn
he accused Bill Clinton of terrible things! I heard him on his radio show a few months ago saying he was through with the clintons… he mustve been paid off by plouffe or axelrod

Obama is going concede after his wife the other Obama and Farakhan video comes out ranting and raving about “Whitey” – I’m appalled at the media suching on the tool of the O guy.

I love this gal. She’s my choice but not with Obama. I’ll vote McCain if Obama is anywhere near the Democratic ticket.

History will repeat itself!! George McGovern couldn’t do without the majority of the popular vote and neither will Barack Oshama!!

Again
you are spouting patent lies!

Personal attacks are reflection of one’s inner self and reflects shallow analysis. We’re not trying to hate on Obama – we love the guy. The problem he can’t win a national election. The fact is – Hillary can.
Facts speak for themselves. A primary is a practice run. Do you really think Republicans are going to vote Democractic as a general rule? Hillary won in the critical 17 BLUE Democractic large states with almost 300 electoral votes. All she needs is 270. Even if Obama did get 199 of the electoral votes in the RED states – without unity – he won’t get the 300 electoral votes that will go to McCain or an indepedent Hillary. The sad trend is Mr. Obama is on a downward spiral with the majority of moderate, hard working, middle class Americans, Asians, and Latinos. Most of Obama’s wins are in heavily Republican RED states. Open your eyes.
Do the math. Name me one thing that Obama did so great in the his home state of Illinois? What great changes has he made for his own people? Is the economy better because of him? If he really did do great things and can win – we would be behind him. So far he keeps voting “present” 70 percent of the time in the Senate instead of making a real stand of yes or no.

Obama will turn things upside down in America!
As much as I got to know him, I hate him more and more!
I have no choice other than John McCain!

joyce
thats exactly the way they did it in John Adams time!

Mark my words! Hillary Rodham Clinton is a class act. She refuses to unveil the truth about Barack Hussein Obama because she is a party loyalist. But Barack Hussein Obama will ultimately – before we vote in November – be revealed as a Black Nationalist. Black Nationalist are sometimes referred to as Black Separatists but I prefer to say that some Black Nationalists are one step removed from being part of the many hate groups composed of Black Separatists. If you know anything about Trinity United Church of Christ and the politics in Chicago for many decades, you will most certainly know that Trinity United Church of Christ is a Black Nationalist Church and that is why Obama refuses to denounce it. Central Congregational United Chruch of Christ was also a Black Nationalist Church but let the United Church of Christ and became the Shrine of the Black Madonna. The UCC minister at Central renounced his UCC credentials and became charman of the Black Nationalist Christian Church that was the umbrella organization for Black Nationalist churches.

Keith
dont react with fake surprise… you just gave away that you know that to be true!

christological
yea there is some serious stuff in that… the obamabots said hillary released that damaging stuff but it was no doubt republican operatives… Hillary is far to gracefull and magnanimous to do that!

I’m not crazy about Obama even as VP, but I realize that he has a lot of supporters who think he walks on water. If he were VP, Hillary could show him that we are not all as bad as we have been portrayed to be at his church. He could learn how to care for all Americans for 8 years and then we would have a chance to judge him again.

This talk of independent HRC; truly now can you people add or count at all; for one thing it can only serve one propose, to give the opposing party (Johnny Sydney McCain III) a complete landside victory in the fall; which of course means 100 year more war and the sale off of America for oil and wheat, etc.. …. just like bush (eight more year of Bush) keep mush this that’s what will get. There will not be a 2012 for HRC this was it; Come on people think; let’s stop fighting among our selves; focus on the prize. HRC under estimated the challenger, that what happen to her; game over (move on) people.

debbie&ronnie, Do you have a link yet on that video you mentioned, “Obama is going concede after his wife the other Obama and Farakhan video comes out ranting and raving about “Whitey”" Is the video going to come out tomorrow?

MG
thats abjectly false… thetre is a strong libertarian candidate in the name of Bob Barr that will siphon votes from him… with 4 serious candidates in the general… the winner could win 25-20 percent… it could happen and it would be legit .. . unlike the questionable affirmative action rules the DNC put in place for Obama!

What is a Black Nationalist?

Hillary was treated so bad!
Now it’s our time to do the same thing to Obama!
Go McCain!

Keith
conservative nutjobs will still vote for him over Mccain

umm
Obama will be burned somehow… you can laugh of his connections but as we found out in 2000 character counts!

Someone please answer my question. Could Barack really be a Black Nationalist? I just googled all that stuff that christalogical said about Trinity church and politics and Central Congregational Christian church and the united church of christ denomination and I am beginning to believe it is all true. Why have I not heard any of this? I sent Barack $25.00 on about 5 occasions now I think I may have been hoodwinked.

no such video exist; come on know such a thiong would already be out; sorry; your fantasies are in your sleepe wake up; Obama or McCain that it. face it. support him your else.

not afraid of race card
I think it is true… I went to a black unitarian church one time and they did the same kind of stuff(just visited) I think that Ickes has damaging info…I didnt want it to come to this,… but in the interest of the country …..

sherry
yea he said that verbatim on the Bill Press Show the morning after NC&IN

Why didn’t any of you rabid Obama fans answer notaraid’s question?

vicki
you dont need hope just a life if you support Obama!

sherry
thats right… they would be shirking their duty if they came out before then!

SOURCES:
OBAMA CANNOT WIN THE SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF DELEGATES EVEN AFTER THE CRIME DNC FAMILY GAVE HIM A GENEROUS BUNCH OF DELEGATES BASED ON IMMAGINARY VOTERS,.
SOURCES INSIST THAT OBAMA CAN STILL BOW GRACEFULLY EVEN AFTER ORGANIZING A MAJOR FRAUDULENT CAMPAIGN TO STEAL OVER 17 MILLION VOTES.
SOURCES COULD NOT CONFIRM THE SOURCES.

I am out of here. I will not blog again for Barack and I think I should ask for my money back. I feel like I have been violated or I fell for a scam. We need someone to unite this Country and it is not going to be someone into black nationalism like Barack most assuredly is based on all the evidence.

not afraid – Wait! Don’t leave! You don’t have to support Hillary or John McCain but you can at least share the truth you have learned so people can make a more informed decision. Tell everything you know about Obama, Hillary and John McCain. You have spent time researching Obama so don’t let that research go to waste. Give them all 3 equal time and during the process maybe you will write in a person’s name or find yourself better able to weigh pros and cons yourself.

Hillary’s story on Nightline now.
Go Hill!

SOURCES:
South Carolina Rep. James Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat, the highest-ranking black member of Congress
and a delegate to the August nominating convention, plans a formal endorsement of the Illinois senator on Tuesday and is urging the state’s other uncommitted delegates to rally around Obama.
SOURCES MAINTAIN THAT THE HIGHEST RANKING BLACK MEMBER OF CONGRESS WAS GETTING INCREASINGLY AFFRAID THAT PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD SOON REALIZE THAT OBAMA LOST THE POPULAR VOTE AND HIS ENDORSEMENT WILL NOT CREATE ANY MORE CRAP TO DISMANTLE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

SOURCES TELL CNN AND MSNBC FROM THE MOST CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES THEY COULD ACCESS, THAT THE DELEGATES WHO WILL SUPPORT OBAMA WILL VERY LIKELY DISREGARD THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SINCE THEY MADE THE DECISION AWHILE AGO – THEY DIDN’T NEED NO VOTER TO TELL THEM HOW TO VOTE!

Jesse Jackson did not concede when he ran with no chance of nomination he stayed until the convention. I guess it was fashionable to display that rhyming man to the loyal black voters.
Ted Kennedy, yes I said Ted Kennedy fought Carter all the way to the convention trailing by 700+ delegates. Always good to have a Kennedy around for some old time sympathy I guess.
Hillary does not need to go away and hide. She should stay in the race until the convention. It will be a great way to honor her voters and the historic campaign. The DNC won’t agree but then again they are laugable loser every 4 year.

vote4hill thats right

At this point it doesn’t matter if she
concedes or not, Obama is the nominee!
If the Media would stop following her and paying attention to her she might get the message and GO Home!
If Hillary doesn’t concede by Wednesday
then she really is mentally ill and
should be taken to the nearest
mental facility for observation!

reaganfan
why are you so obsessed with her concession… are you scared of her?

Voice of Reason
NH and Iowa also jumped ahead of the official start date of primary season … but werent penalized… they have no bearign on the GE…. consider that… you have a different set of rules for Obama than CLinton… you are a shrew!

vote4hill
I say they will change at the convention.. they only have to vote for Obama once then when there is disagreement they can switch their vote

And just who is going to pay for this Convention? Nobody is answering me. The DNC have only $4.4 million a few days ago and they need at least $100 to $120 million. HRC is in debt to about $30 million. I am an Obama supporter and many of us do not feel inclined to contribute to the DNC to give HRC and her supporters a floor fight they have not contributed one nickel to or add yet more debts. So, we are holding back on any further contributions! You need to start sending in about $150 million between now and August 25th. After that, money is needed for the GE elections. McCain already has about $23 millions and rising so make that nearly $200 million to raise for HRC. The GOP is nearing its convention monies. So, if you want your demands for the super delegates to do a flip flop to nominate HRC, then start putting your money where you mouth is to meet your demands because there are no free rides any more.

Vote4Hill:
Reagan made a mistake challenging
Ford in 1976! Ford lost the
general election!
It’s hard to unite a party that is split
right up to the convention for the
General Election!
The same thing will happen this year
if Hillary takes it to the convention!
If that’s what you want it’s fine with me! I’m for McCain!

reaganfan
you just want Obama to win so you can trounce him… I think the DNC is scared Obama cant win and it was all a trick to throw The repubs off… Hillary will be nominated and Obama will be vp and we will beat you by 30-40 states!

vote4hill
maybe the obamamaniacs are part of the plan? but it could happen that way… beat rove at his own game… since he will be indicted soon with the Plame scandal… the statute of limitations hasnt run out on that and he admitted guilt

dem38:
I’m not afraid of her!
Obama should be afraid of her after she
made her comment about the Bobby Kennedy
assassination being one of the reasons she hadn’t conceded!
John McCain will beat either one of
your candidates like a drum in November!
As you Dems like to say “Bring It On”!

SOURCES REPORT THAT AFTER A VERY SUCCESSFUL BRAIN SURGERY, DOCTORS ARE READY TO PERFORM MORE BRAIN SURGERIES, IF NEEDED.
SOURCES REPORT THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY PARTICULAR CAMPAIGN IN MIND – HOWEVER THE SAID DOCTORS POINTED A FINGER IN A PARTICULAR DIRECTION.

A blogger yesterday had a great idea-everyone tear a dollar bill in half and send it to the DNC -half a dollar for 1/2 votes…they are begging for money-no one is donating and they don’t have the money to put on the convention in denver- I have a mental picture of Donna Brazile sitting on her butt, trying to tape hundreds of 1/2 dollar bills together-I think it would make an effective statement

vote4hill
yea a victory speech on Obamas part if he loses both of those states would look silly… he is rounding up(paying off) senate supers etc in case he doesnt get to the magic number by the primaries alone… which should be 2110 but the R&B committee brought up the rule abotu affirmative action to get him the 4 extra votrs in MI that he didnt win and says he should win the nomination because hes a minority ,….. on and on!

vot4hill
I meant 2210!which includes MI and FL.. the way they halved the votes was based purely on affirmative action demographics and flawed exit polls in predominently african american Mi districts!

Get your facts straight dem38 and try to have an intelligent conversation without calling people names. Per the rules of the DNC, only IA and NH were allowed to hold primaries before February 5. No other state was allowed to move it’s primary up. Again it’s super simple. If you are angry about the outcome that’s fine, just place the blame where it belongs – the state Democratic parties and Republican governors of MI and FL for defying the DNC and causing the delegates to get stripped from both states. Don’t the pledged delegate/superdelegate system? Get involved and work from within the Democratic party to change the nominating process. Just don’t change the rules at the end of the game to get what you want. Don’t alter the truth because you don’t like how things ended. FACT – Obama and Clinton agreed to DNC rules regarding FL & MI. FACT – FL & MI violated DNC rules. FACT – Votes in FL & MI were not supposed to count. FACT – Both FL & MI had the option to hold new primaries. For various reasons both chose not to. FACT – Obama had enough votes to swing Saturday’s decision his way but chose to compromise. FACT – before Saturday Obama had an insurmountable pledged delegate lead. FACT – after Saturday Obama still has an insurmountable pledged delegate lead. FACT – Democrats have never nominated someone for president who did not have the most delegates at the end of primary season. Close to 40M Democrats have voted during the 2008 primaries and caucuses. That type of power can bring about real change. Why would anyone want to hand that over the McCain and continue the same policies of the last eight years?

SOURCES:
MORE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED LATELY THAN IN ANY OTHER CAMPAIGN!
SOURCES CLAIM THAT THE DELEGATES WILL DEMAND THE CAMPAIGN ENDS FOR FEAR THAT THERE COULD BE A MAJOR TRAGEDY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

voice of reason
wrogn again
NH and Iowa shouldve been penalized … you are scared it will be stolen from you when in reality it was on loan to you so we could use you! thats what Dean is about to confess! mark my words… Obama is paying people off… I think Hillary said she had campaign debt to set a trap … and she abviously wanted the Mi and Fl petitions to fail so she could appeal to the credentials committee in denver.. get your facts straight… no white house for you!

Average sue
CLinton has more popular votes… to say Obama does is a lie… MI and FL count in full as far as popular votes… your full of it and deserve to be disapointed

dowl
Oama doesnt frighten us …. you need to take another look at Hillary because Obama will be forced out eventually !

SOURCES: HARRIS IS VERY UPSET OF WHAT HAPPENED AT RBC OVER THE WEEKEND. HARRIS STRONGLY BELIEVES THAT THE RBC WENT WAY OVER THE TOP AT WENT TO GREAT LENTHS THAT SHE COULD NEVER IMAGINED IN FLORIDA IN THE YEAR 2000.
HARRIS IS REPORTED ILL BUT RECOVERING..

Average Sue – you obviously haven’t looked up what the DNC by-laws consider popular vote. Get educated – caucus states count, Guam and the Virgin Islands count! And michigan counts because ALL – READ ALL of the other former candidates endorsed Obama so the votes are his. He’s WAY ahead of Clinton in ALL categories!

Ha…sent to myself! I meant this for Vote4Hill – you obviously haven’t looked up what the DNC by-laws consider popular vote. Get educated – caucus states count, Guam and the Virgin Islands count! And michigan counts because ALL – READ ALL of the other former candidates endorsed Obama so the votes are his. He’s WAY ahead of Clinton in ALL categories!

It IS reported by the media but you’re wearing horse blinders so you only see what you want to!

vote4hill
and the “conversation with the Superdelegates” is the presentation of evidence Hillary has on Obama that she doesnt wantto divulge in public… mark my words there will be a fight if the superdelegates ignore that!

pati
I think thats gonna happen after the recent change in polls… we dont have to take the bs from the obamamanicas sittign down… it has been the replicans helping them by confusing issues! No more!

It is time for Hillary supporters to either join the Democrats in supporting Obama or start copying and pasting nonsensical blurbs and rants about how wonderful McCain is.
Quite a few of you in the above posts would truly be perfectly suited for the McCain team.

You can’t have it both ways dem38. By your logic there should not have been a compromise on MI & FL and neither state should count. Even if you penalize IA and NH – Obama still wins! My facts are crystal clear. Obama played by the rules and won fair and square. Most states, most pledged delegates, most superdelegate support. I’ll share more interesting FACTs with you. The whole superdelegate system was the brainchild of Harold Ickes, Clinton’s top political strategist. As a member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws committee Ickes also voted to strip MI & FL of their delegates for violating DNC rules back in August 2007. He only reversed his position because Clinton was losing. Obama beat Clinton playing by the rules set up by people on her own team!

If Hillary is such a great candidate I will ask you the same question she had the nerve to ask Obama in April.
WHY COULDN’T HILLARY CLOSE THE DEAL?? IF SHE WAS OR IS THE BEST CANDIDATE TO BE PRESIDENT WHY IS SHE LAGGING BEHIND IN DELEGATES?? IF SHE WAS SO POPULAR WHY WASN’T SHE NOMINATED AS THE NOMINEE ON SUPER TUESDAY LIKE SHE THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE??
I tell you why it was because the majority of Americans do not want the Clinton’s back in the White House? No more Bush’s & no more Clinton’s in the WH it is time for CHANGE A REAL CHANGE!

Hillary is a true fighter for the American middle class. This was the opportunity for voters to select a passionnate defender of their interests. Unfortunately, the caucus skewed it, with military, elderly, people working on shifts, etc., disenfranchised. But anylook at http://www.electoral-vote.com shows who is the stronger candidate.

FYI. FDR won a brokered convention in 1932 and he won on the third ballot-FDR went on to win the presidentcy and was our greatest president-if its good enough for FDR-its good enough for HRC-our next great president

Reasonable Hillary supporters will choose to vote for either Obama or McCain because they will honestly exercise their judgment in who will be the better leader for our nation.
Rabid Hillary supporters won’t be an issue in November. They’ll meld into an ever tightening ball of human hatred and bitterness until they spontaneously combust.

carpe diem
you are a mccain person thats scared of Hillary!

fumiste
the american people wont stand for a candidate that has lost the kind of states Obama has that alone will seal his fate!

According to Real Clear Politics, a must-bookmark for political junkies, Obama actually has 166,186 vote lead over Clinton in the popular vote — 17,267,658 to 17,101,472
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/06/clinton_puts_up_popular_vote_a.html
Clinton’s dishonest popular vote claim has a new caveat
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/hillary-clinton.html
Good night – I’ve got work in a few hours!!

average sue
with MI and FL she is ahead.. thats not countign MI … you know thats disingeno=uous… every state counts npow and she has it

dem38 – you obviously didn’t read it all – as usual you cherry pick.
I’ll check your response tomorrow…i.e. later today

I am a confessed ignorant as#%@le that supports Hillary Clinton. In order to make myself feel better I must degrade and kick others as I hide behind my rented computer in the comforts of my broken down trailer in the back woods of no where. I dem38 am a moron who thinks I know everything but yet I will not except defeat because I was defeated in real life and my life sucks! That’s all I can say now because the generator to my trailer is is about to blow! Nite YAW!!
HEE HAW GO HILLABY!! dem38

Again with the name calling. Affirmative Action has nothing to do with more than 17M Americans of all races and economic backgrounds voting their conscience and choosing Obama. Black people are only 12% of the US population and not enough to put anyone in office. You offer nothing to dispute the FACTs I’ve presented. If Clinton is so great why is her campaign $20M in debt? Why aren’t her supporters contributing to her campaign financially? Why has she won less states? Why did she have to change the contest rules in order to lay claim to the popular vote? Why couldn’t she beat Obama when she had the people who wrote the rules on her team? I admire what Clinton has accomplished. She’s made it that much easier for a woman to become president. She was just woefully unprepared to go up against Obama.

Did you think electing the first black president would be easy? Imagine if he had to beat a heavy favorite in the primaries, someone from a famous political family. That Obama has come from nowhere to win this thing is truly an amazing story. He is a special person and will win in November easily.

“…because she has refused to accept the new 2,118 delegates number that the Democratic Party says is needed to clinch the nomination.” She still is in denial, she still doesn’t see reality. If she continues this way, whe will be washed up faster than the new old saying, “losing like Clinton!”

Nice try, but no, Democrats won’t vote for obama. He is unelectable.

I am for Hillary Clinton all the way and the honorable Senator McCain has also got my absolute respect…and no 20 year old Obama Nut or one of his flaky Boomer Groupies is going to convince me that John McCain is my enemy.
I believe Hillary Clinton would be an excellent President to protect our interests with respect to China, Iran, Iraq and protecting Israel.
Obama is a disaster on all of these same fronts– no experience, zero accomplishments, no morals, his 20 year spiritual leaders are morally bankrupt.
I’m for Hillary or McCain — no Obama nut will make me against either because they’ve shown they are fronting a lying, inexperienced, morally bankrupt character who doesn’t even know what language they speak in Afghanistan or that there are no poppy fields in Bagdhad.
Maybe he’s never caught the news.
He should, his 20 year preachers have been making quite a spectacle there so now we know this untested moron hates our country and citizens too– he wrote about it in his silly books, and he sat in these America hating pews.
Hillary and McCain love this country, both are strong, Hillary’s understanding of the economy and issues regarding security are second to none, McCain has worked across the aisle all his career and is a war hero with a silver star and extraordinarily honorable service to his country. They love America– which is a must in the Presidency.
Obama is a frightening mess and the fact that Dean and his cronies would try to shove someone who does not love this country, and whose 20 year spiritual advisors and wife despise our country with a passion has made the DNC into the joke of all jokes.
Dean had to make 1.15 million votes from two states disappear against Democratic core principles and the charter of the Democratic Party to do it– Moveon.org money and a biased, propagandistic corporate media with no standards (and financial dealings in Iran) are doing the rest….but fighting the media and Obama tooth and nail will be the first priority of this American.
I will not sleep at night if these two anti-American friends of Farrakhan end up anywhere near the largest army in the world.

Bush and Obama are a lot alike, opposite ideologies, but same trades. They both ran as “the young candidate”, the Wsahington outsiders”, ” the uniters”, “the hope”, and they both were also “drug users”

It frightens me that there are still people who want this woman in office when she can’t see the writing on the wall. If her judgement is this bad during the campaign, what makes you think she’ll see what is really going on, accept it and make good decisions if she is in office?

deja vu 08
Excellent post! I couldn’t agree more….America has to regain her respect, not only from our citizens, but also from other countries in the world. I know Obama says he will bring the troups home very quickly, we all know this will not happen. I just don’t see Obama, with so many questions about him, his wife, and his past becoming the President. John McCain, has been there. He’s been in the publics eye for 20 years. He’s a true American war hero, suffered for 5 years as a POW, and has worked tirelessly to further the cause of America. Without any negatives toward Obama, I think America needs to realize what is at stake here. I just don’t see the experience and tenacity in Obama as President. Therefore, I will cast my vote for John McCain in November.
McCain 08!

I hope >Hillary will NOT take the position as a VP. At least the democratic Party will realize how important to have Hilary as their candidate for presidency. >I’ll bet you if Obama will be choosen as your candidate for presidency Mc Cain will win as president. just the 50percent of the Hillary supporters will vote for Mc Cain that is 8,000,000, eight million plus will vote for Mc Cain and that i will have the last laughter hard headed democrats find yourself a loooosssseerr.

Many woman and men, are able to see the very,very ‘high’ anxiety Clinton has been projecting, (possibly with good reason) thru-out this campaign, and it may be ok for some, but America has many serious issues to ‘deal-with’. Too much anxiety can cause lots of ‘confusion, with disturbances’, building anxiety with issues & with others, that need ‘a calmness’ and focus! If something that may not go the way she wants, in dealing with those of other countries, I’m not so sure they’ll relate to those tears, in the process. THERE’S A TIME FOR EVERYTHING!!… and it takes ‘A-HUMBLE-SPIRIT’, to recognize it’s not ‘All’ about self & winning, even if it costs the outlook on the D-party, +/or, no one to be able to focus and get ready (prepared) for McCain. CLINTON HAS BEEN CARRYING ON SOME ‘extreme’ EMOTIONS, WITHOUT A REAL HANDLE ON THEM, FROM THE CHAOS AND RUCKUS THAT WAS IN HER ‘CAMPAIGN’, TO THE ‘stay in-no-matter what’ ATTITUDE.! As, one has written…”You can carry the battle to the convention and destroy the party, or you can help move the country to a better place. IT’S VERY SELF-ISH OF Hillary TO CONTINUE AND NOT HELP ANOTHER OF SAME PARTY TO HELP the DEMOCRATS TO WIN IN THE LONG RUN. THIS IS A CLEAR CASE OF HOW DARKNESS WORKS, (divide and conquer. LIKE A LOOSE CANNON, RUNNING ON AN ‘emotional-win’. MALE or FEMALE, there’s ‘FEARS’ of the unknown, (‘fear & doubt-are our worst enemy’). With the manner this crap’s been going on, Obama ‘needs’ to win, for America’s-sake, TO-BREAK-THE-ICE… that many still can’t see, is America’s downfall. Many people male & females (of all races) have lost interest, by such behavior from one they thought to ‘lead’!…no matter what sex or race! We care about her, she has given her best, BUT,… NO MATTER HOW MUCH ONE KNOWS OR EXPERIENCE OR ACHIEVED, A HUMBLE DEMEANOR, CONSTITUTES A LEADER, OR THE MAKING OF.!!!

“She Is Not Conceding”
She won’t have to, she’ll be shown the door tonight. The knob will hit her on her backside whether she likes it or not.
Time for her to go…and please take Bill with you…your legacy is over.
McCain 08

Remember the wisdom of Obama. If your choice in November seems tough, VOTE PRESENT. His leadership on this issue is breathtaking.

It’s over. Over. Over. Over.
I’m sorry the Hillary supporters cannot accept this, but it’s true.
> She is NOT ahead in the popular vote
> She is no longer leading in the polls against McCain
> She does not have the delegates and can’t get them unless some major arm twisting occurs thus dividing the party
> She can’t argue that caususes don’t count
> She can’t argue that her votes are more important than Obama’s (worst argument EVER)
She only has one option left to her now…and that is to fight on and fracture the party so that it loses in Nov. Reason? So that she can run again in 2012 against a Republican.
Between her and her husband there have been so many instances of sorriness and scandal it completely amazes me why she’s even made it this far. Obama has been very optimistic…which harkens back to the good old days of Ronald Reagan. She, on the other hand, will do absolutely anything to win this.
It’s over, though. Time to move on. I’m actually a Republican (never voted for a Democrat in my entire life) who has jumped the fence to support Barack. If you idiots let her in there I’m jumping right back. I’m not alone, by the way. There are a great many of us who believe he may very well be what we need.

The question should be, will she over stay, or be thrown out?

Its OVER for HRC. Tonight we move forward to defeat McSame. Her fanatical supporters need therapy…lots of it.

Shame on the AP for reporting rumor as fact! Just a few minutes ago on the View (June 3), Whoopi Goldberg read aloud AP’s “news story” that Hillary’s team has quit the race and she will concede tonight. Less than 10 mnutes later Whoopi announced a correction: Hillary has not quit, there will be no concession speech tonight! The Hillary Campaign telephoned ABC and fortunately got through! Whoopi issued the retraction to a national audience of millions of viewers.
The “Kill Hill” forces have been trying to railroad this woman out of the campaign by hook and by crook. Today they attempted to poison the ballot box on primary election day.

All this talk that Hillary will quit is to influence the outcome in the primary election today. Everyone is afraid that she will win more delegates. This is a way to help Obama lock down the nomination with all the devious help he can get.

I used to like Whoopi Goldberg, I use to like Oprah, I started out liking Obama, not anymore. Obama has done a lot for race relations. I think Whoopi should be fired!

I just can’t understand why Hillary wouldn’t concentrate on uniting the party rather than winning. She could have a very big role in shaping the future, but she continues to fight it.

The reason Hillary won’t concentrate on uniting the party as she lied and said last week she would do once the DNC made their decision. Is because they have a hidden agenda and it is definitely not for the people of America. They have spilled their lies to the people and a few have bought it. They are the ones here constantly bashing Barack Obama every chance they get all the time not knowing that Hillary & Bill Clinton could care less about them. Everything people are saying is just rehash of what Hillary & Bill have brainwashed them to say. They are all puppets for their puppet masters. They are in this run for self and thank goodness we will not get to see their agenda come to pass.
Goodbye Clintons and Good Riddance to the Bush Family!!

Its so funny to me why people stress Hillary wins in WV and KY. Did people forget Obama won by wider margins in WA, ID and KS. And the win in PR is nothing to the 92% to 8% butt kickin Hillary got in the Virgin Islands.

Goodbye Clintons and Good Riddance to the Bush Family!!
I definatley agree on this one.

tj——-yes the dnc jumped the hillary ship when she started playing dirty like karl rove type tactics the democrat party couldnt stand by and let her bring them down to the republican level. she did this to herself.

Hillary supporters who feel the media was sexist and you want to send a message that sexism isn’t ok, how is voting against media going to do that? If you feel various channels/programs were sexist, email companies that advertise on their programs and tell them you are going to boycott their products. If advertisers start pulling ad money, the media will get the message.

Barrack Obama will secure his party’s nomination for President tonight and he will go on to win the general election too. But he’ll have a much easier time doing it with Hillary Clinton’s support, so I do not think she should just go away. She must now work to undo the negative seeds of doubt she has planted during the primary.
Americans say that they think we’re on the wrong path, both with respect to the War on Terror and to the economy. They want change. Notwithstanding, John McCain has committed to supporting the Bush tax cuts, although he opposed them as a Senator, and says he will keep our military in Iraq for “as long as it takes.” Taken together, these are two of the biggest reasons for our current economic woe. We must borrow from China to pay for the war so that the rich can get richer. So, whatever other changes McCain might bring to the White House, if he were to be elected, won’t matter a diddling. More American jobs will be outsourced to China and Mexico, chief executives of mega-sized, international corporations will continue to make obscene salaries, and gas, along with everything else, will get more expensive.
As Albert Einstein once said, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.”

In my humble opinion, an Obama/Clinton ticket negates everything that made me to vote for Obama in the primaries. I don’t understand why the media is forcing this woman on Obama’s ticket. He will win without her. There is a good chance he would lose with her, because she would still energize the Republicans. The Republicans will run against her and would not even mention Obama in their retoric. Watch and see.

I am changing to be an Independent. No more Screamer Dean, Nancy Pelosi or Reid. What the Democratic party has done to Hillary Clinton is not to be ignored. I will never vote for Obama, the hidden Arab and his 20 years in a hateful church full of hateful members.
The best candidate is Hillary Clinton. Not Obama. Once again this party is shooting themselves in the foot. And the Super Delegates should not be choosing a candidate based on no information about him now. That is done at the convention.
We need an Independent Party headed by Hillary Clinton and I pray that is what she does if the Super Delegates and Democratic party leadership does this to her. The Democratic party has been dead for years. People want a choice.
And the media. The Democratic leadership has done nothing while she was and is being reviled. No more Democratic party for me.

NEITHER BO or HRC currently has or will have enough primary pledged delegate votes to claim victory as the democratic presidential candidate (even if the ~30 votes given to BO contrary to DNC rules are included) by end of day. The efforts of the DNC, super delegates and media to push HRC out of the contest prematurely is self-serving, and contrary to the rules of the DNC. As neither candidate has enough pledged delegate votes to claim victory, the decision goes to the super delegates (“SDs”), who will not be able to cast their votes until the convention; the pledge of their votes in advance before all events have been played out, attempts to prejudice the results. The SDs are supposed to take into account a myriad of factors to determine which candidate is most electable in the GE. This does indeed include consideration of the popular vote, which will determine who actually wins in the Nov. general election. HRC will likely carry that vote including in the important swing states, among Latinos, working class, etc. She has a solid argument about her electability in support of her continued bid for the presidential nomination. The decision of the SDs will be no easy task as suggested by the BO camp who would like to pack up everything and get to the GE. An example one blogger pointed to is apt here: should Ed Kennedy and Patrick Kennedy cast their super-delegate votes for BO who they backed, or for HRC who their states (Mass & RI) elected by overwhelming popular vote with the majority of their pledged DELEGATES going to HRC. The SD’s should be held accountable for their votes.

“When we have a nominee” is Clinton code for after the Convention. In August. Unless somebody makes her an offer she cannot refuse. She stands to get her bills paid, get a VP role, get a Cabinet role. Her speech will help us sort this out a bit. And her behaviors after she gets a little rest at home. And sorts through the quid pro quos she can wring out the Obama campaign. Not real leaderly but pragmatic.

I think she should stay in the race until the convention. It is quite possible that further stories about the Obama’s will surface before then and she may look a lot more electable when the nominee is chosen. If she bows out now it will be a lot harder to get back in later.

Don’t you just love all these people who know so much about politics. Nobody should listen to the media to get their information or to be educated on the political scene. All the media is is speculation. They assume Bill Clinton has a problem because of his heart surgery. He called a reporter sleezy scumbag and he is. There was no reason for anyone to write an article on hearsay especially now. Everytime Hillary has a good day it seems the media just can’t stand it so they come up with something to destroy it. They’ve made fun of her laugh but have you heard Meka Bryzenski on MSNBC. Why would Hillary even consider supporting the Democratic party. There is nothing united about that party including the way they handle their elections. It is so stupid the way it is done. I guess that’s some of those people with college degrees that set it up. I hope Dean, Pelosi and Reid step down after this. They are a mockery to our society. Go independent Hillary or we will vote for John McCain.

The decisions of the DNC on Saturday, particularly on Michigan, were not undemocratic. I heard someone say tonight that Jim Crow has finally been put to bed, but the decisions of the DNC were Jim Crow politics.
I’ve alluded to this before but the DNC actions on Saturday called up Woody Allen’s, Bananas. The freedom fighter revolutionary finally unseats the junta and makes a speech in which he announces: “All children under the age of 12 years old are now…12 years old.” [The age may have been different]
If this fabricating and “interpreting” of votes is where the reforms of party politics has brought us it’s time for new reforms. Votes CANNOT be fabricated, for any reason, whether you think it’s a compelling reason or not. (Jim Crow thought he had one as well.)
Obama has not won the nomination, he was awarded the nomination in a way much too similar to the way Bush was awarded the presidency in 2000. If he eventually wins, so be it, but he needs at least 2177 delegates to assume victory before the convention. And that delegate count shouldn’t be based on superdelegates “deciding” based on the travesty the DNC wrought this past weekend, or the announcements of victory for Obama that are also based on that travesty.
I really don’t care who you support, but you have to look within yourself and realize the awful precedent the DNC has set. Votes can be interpreted and fabricated based on whim, prejudice, supposition, or “ideals.” This is much much bigger than this nominating process alone; the very essence of democracy is at stake.
For that reason more than any other, Hillary can not concede.