Obama Florida Co-Chair Signs On to Bush Impeachment

-On the articles of impeachment, Mr. Obama?
-Uhh…Present?

It’s a little late don’t you think.

Two years ago would have been the right time don’t you think

Yea. I think it’s a little to late. He has less then 8 months left in office. This should have been done 2-3 years ago. It won’t make much of a difference now.

I caught a very unusual fish yesterday.
I just couldn’t identify it. I’d never seen one like it before.
When I got it in the boat, it flipped and it flopped and it flipped and it flopped.
I decided to call it a McCAIN.

Our Beloved Chairman Barrack declared this a non-issue, come on people, move on, let’s get back to attend the people’s business, which is to work on electing him.

political posturing by the Democrats in an election year…they’ve taken over Congress and done what….disappointment all around.

I don’t understand all of this signing on to the Articles or not…
If an impeachment is constitutional, then an impeachment there ought to be. Seriously, our Constitution is so blatantly ignored right now there’s no point to even have it.

i don’t think it is to late, bush and cheney should be impeached, for history’ sake.
after we impeached bill clinton for what we impeached him for.
and now that we know from the book writers,etc.and from their own admission,
bush should be impeached.
50 years from now when they read about how we went to war, and why and the number of lives lost, and then to find out the bush adm. lied to us to go to war. there should be some record that right was done. and we all should push for this, and show the will of the people won out in the end.
to impeach a president for lying about having sex with an employee, and then not impeach a president that lied about a war that killed people, is morally wrong.
we the american people will want to be on the right side of history,when this is recorded.
the right side is to impeach these guys.
flood your rep. office with calls, and send letters soon to make this happen.
even if he is not impeached. we should for history sake, try to do it.
we are supposed to be a great and just people, to impeach these people is the just thing to do. for history’ sake.

We relected a man, who lied to the American people, to his second term in office and then put forth the idea of impeachment when he only have eight months in office.
Where were all these 4 years ago.

As many have pointed out, this should have (and has) been pursued years ago. Bush abused the presidency from day one by accepting the office without really wanting or caring about the duties of the job. But let’s face it, impeaching Bush gives all those Republicans who sucked at his teat all these years a free pass to distance themselves from him. It’s a fascinating position the neocons have created: they used Bush as their puppet, and now they will publicly sacrifice him while lining up their 2009 think tank jobs. You’re getting fooled yet again, Mr. Bush.

“Be forwarned, Once Obama is in office, there will be no impeaching him, no matter what he does.” – Seah
Are you right-wingers still using this tactic? I know it’s fun to accuse your opponent of horrible crimes that just happen to be EXACTLY what your folks have been doing for years!

bush is not guilty of anything except
trying to protect the united states
from radical islam.

The crimes against the Constitution were committed by everyone who voted yea to the Patriot Act.

It’s most certainly NOT too late to do what is right. The blatant criminality exhibited by this administration must not be allowed to go unpunished. Americans who think otherwise are enabling these crimes and as accomplices are also guilty. The rest of the world can see this clearly- why can’t we?

yes, we must impeach,
yes it should have happened long ago
no it is not to late to do the right thing.
if we the american people do not have the stomach to do the right thing and impeach bush, for all of the lives lost and how he has wrecked this country, we need to stop all of the flag waving, and saying the pledge of alligence,
running to big political rally’, saying slogans, YES WE CAN, the straight talk express, and solutions for america.
that is not being patriotic.
we need to do the right thing.
and impeach. and maybe the profiles in courage award will go to the american people, for having the will to right the wrong this bush has caused.
the greatest generation of people were a lot more patriotic and truly engaged than we are.
impeachement of geo bush is the right thing to do. better late than never.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
Tell that bunch of lies to the UN which wasn’t doing THEIR job.
This guy has TOO much TAX dollars to spend — try protecting our service men and women who are over ther protecting YOUR freedom!

Too little too late….. are you people serious?
If there’s hard evidence of the injustices wrought with intent – and we’re talking TRILLIONS of war dollars – 100,000′s of people dead (+4000 US soldiers) it’ll never be too late! Listen to you wimpy-ass folk. Anytime is good enough to right a wrong and passing it by doesn’t make it righter – just more wrong!

While I firmly believe that Bush has committed high crimes and misdemeanors that borderline on treason, while I believe that Bush’s Presidency is destined to become one of the worst in U.S. history, while I believe that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Libby, Wolfowitz, Feith, Rice and Rove should all be tried for war crimes in the Hague, I can’t see this impeachment getting any traction so it is a moot point to begin with.
It should be Congress’ duty to impeach a criminal administration that makes Nixon look reasonable, yet the Democrats don’t want to risk looking as stupid as the Republicans did when they impeached Clinton. That’s the nature of power, and the sad fact is that there are too many stupid people in America (and the world in general for that matter), like the people on here that think Bush defended us from terror, rather than trade away American power and galvanize radical Islam which is what he actually did.
The reality of politics is grim and Bush will likely either walk or live in exile. He may be hated by almost 80% of the country, and has the highest disapproval rating ever recorded, he still has friends in high places that ignore the will of the American people.
However I commend Kucinich for trying. When they finally do ask questions as to why this nation made such costly and foolish errors, why so many people died while others got rich, why America simply rolled over and let Bush invade a sovereign nation under false pretenses, they will, at the very least see that there were those that stood up for what’s right.

Hello – who authorized the President to go to war with Iraq? The congress!They all had the same Intel that Bush had. Why didn’t congress do their due diligence? Why was it essentially a 100% yes vote by congress (Including Hillary) authorizing the President to go to war. So should we impeach all of the congress as well? It sure is easy to blame Bush when the war went bad – but they all have their hands in this cookie jar.
What exactly did Bush lie about? WMDs? Read up on your history ladies and gentleman – the US wasn’t the only country who made that claim. Even France and Germany thought that to be true, they just didn’t agree with the war from the beginning. Remember President Clinton bombed Iraq during that little Lewinski scandal – but we were told that wasn’t related. So fine, it wasn’t related but then why did Clinton bomb Iraq? Because he too believed Saddam had WMDs.
Look – if Bush lied, so did Clinton.
I just can’t believe how people just take a Democrat or Republican viewpoint and justify away their actions. Plenty of blame to go around on this one – but don’t get fooled by petty politics.

I agree with Patriot. McCain has a terrible voting record with respect to Veterans’ and military benefits issues compared to Obama. Tri-Care benefits are now tied to Medicare. When you turn 65 your “free for life medical care” promised at enlistment are still “free” as long as you pay for Medicare Part B. That’s $1,157 a year before you even start with deductibles, copays, etc. Try to find a doctor who will treat you when they lose money every time they see you even at the current (very low) reimbursement. Oh, it’s set to go down another 10+% in another few weeks.
I worry about our young Vets coming back. Instead of honoring their service our government, they break their promises to them! McCain has had plenty of time in Congress to show concern and has not. Didn’t even vote for the recent “expanded” GI Bill that is basically the same that the WWII Vets received. Shame!

If Bush is not held accountable for his abuse of executive power, lying the country into an war unnecessary war, going AWOL during Katrina, rushing, underfunding the 911 investigation, obstructing the 911 investigation, torture, rendition, warrantless wiretaps and outing a covert CIA agent whose husband exposed his lies etc, then our country and what it stands for is finished

Congress has an approval rating of 11% approval lol its lower then George Bush.
I wonder Why. I think alot of people who voted democrat in 2004, thought there was going to be accountability.
They won and Pelosi informed us immediately that impeachment was off the table. Its truly disgusting . George has ruined my country.
Now we have to endure tabloid meetings on baseball drug abuses when our country is infected.

Yawn. Nobody cares. Trust me.

If Bush and Cheney were impeached, wouldn’t Pelosi be the one in charge?

… and why isn’t this the headline story?????

Obama was looking great to me till I read his comments in the USA today. I suppose HE has no time to hold accountable the bastards responsible for so much bloodshed and financial ruin but I happen to desire JUSTICE.

A couple of posts referred to the Valerie Plame case as grounds for impeachment. Of all of the bogus claims, that is the most bogus! First of all, Joe Wilson outed his own wife long before anyone heard of Valerie Plame. His biography was published in Who’s Who AND posted on the Middle East Institute website where it mentions his wife as “the former Valerie Plame.” Second of all, the leaker was Richard Armitage, the former United States Deputy Secretary of State.

my point is it is easy to be against the war after it has been proven to be a colossal failure. we could have sure used some help before the war started. but we were written off as a bunch of radicals still fussing over vietnam.

Forget impeaching him.
Wait till he gets out of office and bring him up on war crimes.

“The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”
— Albert Einstein

Here are the sissified Democrats doing something they should have done years ago.
Everybody knows that there are no real dividends from initiating such proceedings. The only gains are political – making it seem as Democrats finally doing their job and weakening the image og Republicans as effective when it comes to the war on terror. They are just trying to score points in an election year when they know very well that they voted for the Iraq war, the Patriot Act and the Halliburton contracts. Of course, Obama doesn’t want impeachment because many of his superdelegates and supporters will be exposed as hypocrites. Obama has voted for financing the war consistently and in the campaign he played the anti-war candidate and got away with it because the guilt-ridden liberals in greedy media loved the story of a black candidate (it is a sensational story that sells and allows America to fell good about itself). The right wingers in the media loved it too because they thought Obama will be easier for McCain in battleground states (hint: poor white folks) and also it proved what they were saying all along: that America is not racist.
Bush got selected in 2000 by the Supreme Court and the media and both political parties totaaly supported the misguided and illegal Iraq war. Obama got selected by the DNC and the media in 2008 and I am afraid to even predict what the media and corporate and corrupt political elite are planning for us next.

As a democrat I find this insulting. We’ve known about the lies for years now. And now, years later, during the election, they pull this crap? It’s a gutless move and shameful pandering.
Pelosi and the gang need to get off their ass and quit acting like Republicans! We voted them in to get something accomplished for the country, not to continue the same partisan bickering we had under the GOP.
Cheney and Bush SHOULD have been impeached. But now it’s nothing but a political gesture.
The Dems have done nothing but squabble and point fingers since they got the majority. Both parties seem more concerned with placing blame than turning things around.
I’m voting Obama, McCain has become a GOP stooge, but I’m not buying into this type of political BS. It’s nothing but a watse of time and tax dollars.
WE REALLY NEED A VIABLE THIRD PARTY!

Did the articles of impeachment include outing a certain CIA operative? (Treason) – hanging offense
Why is a certain ex-press secretary in secluded custody and scheduled to appear before a Congressional Commitee next Friday?

Can’t see this helping Obama’s case with moderates. Or maybe it will? Bush is dreadfully unpopular. Maybe folks won’t even care.

KAra elise Obama has stated he will investigate them for war crimes

the impeachment of these two should be being called for by the dems and reps.
because the american people, forget this party stuff. should be demanding that this happens, for the books.
your great,great,great grandchildren are going to look back to this time and say what a amoral, foolish bunch of people we are,(and this next statement has nothing to do with party aff.,i an an independent) we impeach a man for having sex and lying about it. and we have a man who lied and caused a war, that drained the fund, got and counting number of people killed, caused to exposure to all of the awful sides of people to come out, gitmo, the prison scandal,all of this harm done to our country, and no one held responsible for it? if we fail to impeach these guys for this, we have lost our soul as a country, and really headed the way of rome. i was looking at angela m. with bush, everyone elses economy is holding steady, our’ is slowly going in the tank, because of the two we have in the white house.
and we are about to do it again, we have choses marginal candidates at best, looking at obama and mccain, no one can really let themselves believe these two are not going to make matters worst for this country.
both are a joke.
no one will admit it, but we should have gone with gore in 2000, and we should have gone with clinton in 2008,
on the rep. side they should have had hagel or romney.
our healthcare system is headed for a total collapse. maybe this is what is happening with our govt. also.
because we eat and run off the good ones with silly personal reasons, and keep the incompetents.

neil1795…the only difference between Obama supporters and Hillary supporter is that we know, in order to win the White HOuse we need to unite under whoever is the nominee. There are still dye hard HRC supporters who would die rather than support Obama. Well, go ahead. I think Hillary will find a VERY cushy job in the Obama admin. She watsn something to fight for and she ‘ll find it. If he looses we all loose, we get McCain…

if obama gets in-he is going to be so busy paying back favors to the bigwigs who put him there he will not have the time to get to the american people and their needs-they might has well change the name from the white house to the big white pawn shop house.
and pelosi, is so weak kneeded, she has not done what she said she would do when we put her in there.
she is just like obama WE helped HER make history by making her the first speaker of the house, SHE has not done anything in return for us.
and the same will be with obama, WE will make HIM POTUS, helping HIM make history, and he will not be able to do anything in return for us.
we need to stop with the reasons why not, and excuses. dk has 35 reasons why we should impeach these guys,
lets go forward and do it

Big…withdrawing our troops in an orderly manner is not abandioning our troops, it is getting them out of arms way. We went into this war trying to help the Iraqs get on their feet and support their own country. They have done nothing short of having elections, which were a fiasco, to fufil their part of the bargain.

see that is partly what is wrong with us.
I don’t believe sen. clinton wants or would take a cushy job anywhere, especially not obama white house.
I don’t think sen. clinton has taken on any cushy work in her life.
i and michelle obama do not want sen. clinton or bill anywhere near the obamas.
let them lose on their own.

Another case of Obama weakness! His delayed denouncing of Rev. Wright, his 20+ year decision to leave Trinity Church, his willingness to talk to Hamas and Iran etc. His relying on McCain to defend his own middle name. Too soft, too weak and too cowardly. NOT PRESIDENTIAL. They call him “cool”- but he needs his cigarrettes to get through the heat. I think he can’t handle the heat.

i am black and i don’t think this is fair, after bad mouthing and running down the clintons, all of the tv big-mouths for the dems are now (especially on MSNBC) saying obama will win if bill clinton will go on a tour with obama campaigning, and he will win with the help of the clinton’s.
why should the obama’s and their surrogates and supporter want the clinton’ now.
obama even tried to downplay bills economic years.

andjusticeforall wrote “chris matthews had the gaul to say obama needed to become sen. clinton to win”
I think what he means is that he needs to start putting details to his change and hope rhetorics. Until now, people don’t see any substance on his speeches. He’s latest speech in Virginia is plain crap. Obama stole most Hillary’s plans and policies. He is unable to talk in-depth about any of them even as proven at teh 4 debates he had with Hillary.

The world is watching, The democrats destroy the country.
Now they will watch the Democrats destroy our world Standing.
Are they truly out to do America in?
Obama started his campaign being anti war. He took it further, being anti Bush and war and government.
In speeches to the American people, he constantly blame bush, blamed the government, blame the war for everything wrong in this country. Started the Hate bush, hate the war, hate the government feeding the peoples minds, with his propaganda and hate. sucking them in and turning a whole nation into hating whom he said, and what he said.
all for political gain.
Obama along with the DNC managed to turn so many people into haters and against their own president and country.
To insure complete control over the country.
When we did win the war, We saved a whole nation. We gave them freedom.
Were the country a danger to the world. Yes. They had weapons of mass distruction. They had biological warfare, and they used it.
We did win the war, our presence in Iraq is needed, and warranted and out of obligation. We freed a people and a country, in the process blew it all to heck. Walking away is Failure, turning our back on people in need. Leaving them in dire straights, failure of our moral obligation.
America does not do that.
It might be the obama way to shirk responsibility and moral obligation, It is not the American way.
Funny how impeachment of Bush comes at a critical moment in the run of the general election. Another ploy and play for a power play another used to buy insurance of a Democratic control of the government.
From the start of obama campaign with the blame bush, blame the war, blame the government. constant in his speeches from day one. Setting the ground work, turning the people against their president, the war, the government. Intensified it with motivational speeches. talking the people into anything.(some of the people)
All for The drive for Super power over the Country and the people.
Sad thing is their plan is working and the people are falling in line like they want.
Obama & his marketing team are amazing. They could sell hell to the devil, sell prison to the mob as a vacation package.
Sad thing is they have no morals, they have no respect for anything or anyone.
They will use and abuse anyone. They will lie about or on anyone. All to get what they want, POWER.
They made fools out of the American People.
They have made America Look like fools in the world.
Yes they did
You want to put someone who knows nothing in as president. One who used and abused you. All so he can obtain power.
You know he is not going to give you wht he promised. All Campaign promies to get you to vote for him. He promised everyone everthing, that is impossible to fulfill.
He is a Dynamic actor and speaker, to get you to do what he wants.
This has been in the making and setting up since 2004.
This has been a an unbelievable election process so far. Nothing we have ever seen. The dirtiest, deceiving, power play in US History.
We are just merely votes to obama, and he will do or say anything for a vote.
You can take the man out of Chicago, but you can not take Chicago out of the man.
I suggest you go out between now and January and enjoy your freedom.
That if obama gets elected, you will have The best days of you life to look back on.

andjusticeforall wrote “chris matthews had the gaul to say obama needed to become sen. clinton to win”
I think what he means is that he needs to start putting details to his change and hope rhetorics. Until now, people don’t see any substance on his speeches. He’s latest speech in Virginia is plain crap. Obama stole most Hillary’s plans and policies. He is unable to talk in-depth about any of them even as proven at teh 4 debates he had with Hillary.

Am retired–not my first BBQ–
Bush & his gang have the all time record for gigantic lies and miss use of Presidential office powers, tearing up the Constitution , and inept office holders and much more.
“TRACK RECORD” shows his (‘w’) political agendas; forcefully keeping the Arizona border hole open, no ‘exit’ plan for the war, no ecnomical plans to help Americans, no repairs of American (our) “infrastructure” , no clue or plans for anything relating to Global warming , totally cluesless and inept for foreign policy , and as long as it seems to ‘hurt America’ , he is for it–
IMPEACH HIM ? I certainly hope at some time Americans will rise up to be the people of the Constitution ; “WE THE PEOPLE…….” are supposed to HIRE and FIRE those in Washington !
When will we NOT find some excuse not (“oh he will be out of office “some day”) to do things and get our control or our government back ?

Hillary 2008, if not, McCain 2008 with a DEM congress with more the 60 DEMs in the Senate.

roby,
So you expect the Dems in Congress to save you and yet you choose to throw them under the bus??
Interesting!

what is the point? why when he is already on his second term and its almost up would we waist time on “impeaching” him?
i find it to be just plain for show..
he has been the same war monger as before the second time we voted him in and we knew he was full of it then …
we knew he had it in for hussain because of his father, we knew he was full of crap about the war when he named about 50 different reasons why we waged war in iraq ! now we want to play victim like we were clueless? are we that easily duped??? the signs have been there dont act like we just seen them for the first time people!!!!

A couple of posts referred to the Valerie Plame case as grounds for impeachment. Of all of the bogus claims, that is the most bogus! First of all, Joe Wilson outed his own wife long before anyone heard of Valerie Plame. His biography was published in Who’s Who AND posted on the Middle East Institute website where it mentions his wife as “the former Valerie Plame.” Second of all, the leaker was Richard Armitage, the former United States Deputy Secretary of State.
Posted by: James Danley | Jun 11, 2008 2:36:31 AM
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Gee you sure believe all the propaganda out there jimmy…get real!

McCain ’08, interesting! But the poor already have health care. All they have to do is go to any number of free clinics or in an emergency to any ER. As for wanting to go to college, there are thousands of scholarships and grants that are available for the needy with good grades. All they have to do is study hard in high school, get good grades and then apply to at least two or three dozen scholarships and grants. And as for the top income earners, the top 25% of the nation’s wage earners account for 86% of the total federal income tax revenue.

Get Real,
SUPERDELEGATES MAY CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND THAT’S FOR REAL. IF OBAMA KEEPS ON COMMITTING STUPID MISTAKES AND UNTIL HE PUT SUBSTANCE TO HIS RHETORICS, HE WILL NEVER BE ELECTABLE AND WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED.

This is too little too late. There isn’t even time to impeach this lame duck president. It should have been done a long time ago when it was discovered the president was a war criminal and for his blatant disregard and incompetency during the Katrina aftermath. There was no effort to impeach him at that time because there wasn’t enough support in Congress. While Congress primarily works for the lobbyists who pay their salaries, they would never fail to ignore public opinion if it demanded something,and so part of the blame can be placed on the media for its failure to provide honest coverage of this presidency. However, in the final analysis, the failures and crimes of the Bush administration are the fault of the American people who have become a complacent, ignorant, and corrupt citizenry that is reflected in our media and our government. We are a democracy after all. We have the power to change it. Just look: after 38 years of failed conservative rule, the upcoming election still appears too close to call. This is a disgrace. The problems in our once great country are with us and nobody else. Impeach the American voter!

This is so incredibly foolish. The way our economy is right now, Kucinich and Wexler would have the government waste millions of dollars on impeachment hearings, investigations, etc., when Bush only has 7 months left in office? The sheer stupidity of this is enormous. The constituents of Kucinish and Wexler should vote these bozo’s out immediately. What an incredibly waste of time, money and energy. These men misrepresent what a member of Congress should be doing. It’s hard to believe that the Democrats could get any more dimwitted.

Let me guess, you are one of those that are still saying she has 17 million “supporters”, just because they “voted” for her does not mean they are die hard loyalist supporters, I would venture a guess that those die hard loyalists are about 10,000.

Wexler is a waist of time, he should be impeached!!
Wexler who was against impeaching Clinton who lied under oath, used his position to bully people, threatened people and was accused of rape,
wants to try and impeach a President for following his oath of office in defending this country!!
Vote the Dems out now before it is too late!!
Drill Here!! Drill Now!!

Neil what Obama has shown by the last week, his campaign and his words…
and if you listen to what he has actually said…
He has shown he is beyond competent …especially considering he doesn’t know “the game” like the other two.
and the polls and the bookies are showing that (you know 2 to 1 odds for Obama)…
so you are screaming in a room where most people went home already.
those of us still here are just watching in fascination at this point at the few people still screaming.

dl,
I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO. I HAVE A LOT OF SOURCES…

spock
drilling now will help us in …oh…20 years… the money companies will be spending on getting that oil should be on getting us off oil.
the drilling in the ocean may cost as much oil as it does get us oil…especially in the short term…
read the facts.
lets prioritize getting the pattens that all the oil and car companies bought up and the breakthroughs that we are now seeing all over the place forward and to market to get us off oil.
Drilling will not help us NOW…and later, you bet your a## that we better have gotten off oil…or we are going to be one sorry junkie of a country.

OBAMA IS A BONEHEAD AND SO ARE THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS ! I HAVE TOLD YOU SO MANY TIMES AND THESE COLLEGE BRATS STILL KEEP ON PRAISING THIS STUPID IDIOT. HE DOESN’T KNOW THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND MORE SO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY. THE “DUMB”OCRATIC PARTY SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN HILLARY WHO WAS KNOWN TO HAVE THE HIGHEST IQ AMONG THE POLITICIANS. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE’S SAYING. I HAVE BEEN HEARING SINCE THE 90′S THAT HILLARY WAS BEHIND THE SUCCESSFUL AND STRONGEST ECONOMY WE HAD IN THE 90′S AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE SHE KNOWS THAT SUBJECT BY HEART. GEEEEEEZZZZ. I JUST HOPE THAT THE DEMS WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND IN DENVER.

Neil,
You also stated the other day the Obama and Michelee had 230 points added to their SAT’s, yet never provided the proof.
Your fingers are typing checks that your brain can’t cash. LOL!
Enough of the BS. If you cant PROVE IT don’t POST IT!

A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS BLOG ARE AGAINST OBAMA ONLY A FEW 4 (dl, melissa, getreal, bhrandon) OF YOU ARE DIE HARDS. HILLARY WILL COME BACK.

Neil, you are so right they sure can, and in case you havent noticed ever since she suspended her campaign many of her pledged and superdelegate supporters* have went to* Obama, funny how exactly what all of her supporters keep asking for they are getting in reverse.
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I have went to Obama too.
It feels good to walk with the ONE.
Posted by: Get Real | Jun 11, 2008 9:56:17 AM

why don’t we all just stop talking about sen. clinton, she has moved on,
she endorsed him. i don’t understand why the talking heads keep saying what obama needs now is for sen. clinton to campaign with him. if the super d and the msm were so sure obama would be the best, that they picked him, let him go on. i don’t not want sen. clinton to be involved with the obama’ in any way.
they don’t like her and don’t want her around. she should just go back to her day job.
and we should stop talking about sen. clinton. she is out.
we should just all watch obama everyday
and listen to him. that is what his supporters have been saying, if we would just listen to him, and get to know him, and his message.
so i am listening and heaven help us.
but sen. clinton is out and thats it.
i am listening to obama and his supporters and the only sense he or his surrogates make to me is they want sen. clinton with them.
but i hope she does not.
she does not need to help obama.
he can do it on his own.
lets leave sen. clinton out of the conversation from now on, she is out

those of us still here are just watching in fascination at this point at the few people still screaming.
Posted by: dl | Jun 11, 2008 10:26:51
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I can hear the sobbing……….

KERRY WAS 14 TO 15 POINTS AHEAD OF BUSH IN GALLUP POLLS BACK IN 2004. GUES WHO STILL WON? PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGED THEIR MINDS. THAT WILL HAPPEN TOO.

remember nov,
how could the selfish sen. clinton help obama anyway?

Neil1785,
Still waiting….You SAY he is STUPID, prove it, pal. Because the only one who is looking stupid is YOU!

You have to be REALLY stupid to graduate with honors from an Ivy League school!
Posted by: jmc663 | Jun 11, 2008 11:31:59 AM
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Oh yeah baby and HE the “ONE” did it in just 1! YEAR…………..

Americans don’t have the stomach to do the right or hard thing to protect this country… President Bush may suffer ill-reputation for keeping our country safe these past several years, but he chose to put the country ahead of his reputation or the whims/polls of political expediency. The Democrats, and our Congress in general, have much to learn from a man who had a ‘backbone’ in the face of global danger. The sandbox mentality won’t work today–we can’t just stay in our sandbox and expect that those playing with nukes and chemicals won’t enter when they’ve shown their disregard for human life in general. Diplomacy without action is an oxymoron…President Bush used both and kept us safe. I believe this nation and its people could use some manners and respect when discussing the Commander in Chief– whether they agree or not with his policies, he made difficult decisions to safeguard our country with no future political aspirations or motive.

dl, you wrote: “drilling now will help us in …oh…20 years.” Actually the very moment that the drilling begins (if not sooner — i.e. when Congress approves the drilling) the oil speculators will begin dumping their oil futures and the price of OPEC’s oil will tumble.

OBAMA IS JUST DIVERTING ATTENTION IN FLORIDA BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE’S LOSING BOTH FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN TO MCCAIN.
LET’S GIVE BUSH SOME CREDIT FOR MAKING OUT COUNTRY SAFE FROM TERRORISTS. OBAMA JUST GAVE US THE IDEA THAT IF HIS DECISION IS WRONG (WHICH IS MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN IF HE BECOMES TEH PRESIDENT, GOR FORBID), HE WILL NEED TO BE IMPEACHED AS WELL.
HILLARY OR MCCAIN

Dr. K,
I’ll drink to that. obama is that desperate to do such move…he should be careful not to bump people from high places just like that or he might end up like JFK … obama is real pathetic….

== Impeach all of Congress ==
Since the US Congress were all equally aware of the intelligence and supported the decisions of president Bush, let’s begin impeachment of all the members of Congress.

Seems I remeber 99% of the senate and congress were aware of the same intelligence Bush had, and most of it came from the previous administration.
And when America did strike back at Afganistan, and later when the statue of Sadam came down, all of America was cheering..Now the pot calls the kettle black..Biggest flip-flop in history..

The impeachment proceedures should have been started as soon as we definitely knew there were no WMDs in Iraq. That war was for the benefit of Cheny’s $40 milliom in stock in Haliburtion and other stocks with Cos. that were given contracts plus oil stocks. So many death, pernament injuries, destruction and dollars spent for an artifical and irrational reason. VERY SAD INDEED.

I agree totally with James Danley. That’s exactly how the war in Iraq went down. I remember reading in the papers how Saddaam was paying upwards of $30,000 to the families of the Palistinian suicide bombers to help them rebuild. Mr Ed Bradley on CBS reported on the existance of WMD’s in Iraq prior to the war and later flip flopped accusing the Bush Administration of fabricating evidence. There were also reports of huge convoys of trucks entering Syria from Iraq in the days leading up to the 2nd Gulf War. The news networks didn’t find this worthy of coverage. Could this be how Sadaam got rid of his WMD? We know he had them. He used them against his own people as anyone who reads the headlines of that time can readily confirm!!! I would definitely equate those who deny Saddaam had WMD’s to those who deny the Holocaust. These types of people get their information, it seems, from conspiracy theorists and not from factual news sources. Remember 911…remember how the nation was one.

Remember how Bush destroyed the “nation that was one” By waging war on a country that had absolueltey nothing to do with 911. He lied. His own Press secretary is now admitting to the lies and manipulation he engaged in. Impeached? Too late for that!He should be jailed… with Cheney… and Rumsfeld. He should pay back the $1trillion he used to pay for the war. Rove would have never allowed a Democrat to get away with what bush has. Throw him in Jail, throw away the key.

REMEMBER NOVEMBER:
Australian Paul McGeough’s article in the Sydney Morning Herald dated March 26, 2002, included the following:
“The $US500,000 doled out in this impoverished community yesterday means that the besieged Iraqi leader now has contributed more than $US10 million to grieving Palestinian families since the new intifada began 18 months ago.”
$10 million in 18 months! Now that is supporting terrorism!

This is addressed to “Remember November”
You commit a grave error on several counts in your remarks. Repeated investigations by UN weapons inspectors, as well as our own military inspectors failed to find any so called “Weapons of Mass Destruction”. Note that those inspections were made well before any allegations of foreign involvement in the removal of anything. Also note that those accusations remain pure speculation.
Furthermore the US knew exactly what weapons Saddam had because we provided them. The US supplied both the mustard gas as well as the helicopters to apply it, (in bold defiance of the Geneva convention).
The list of weapons supplied by the US is available on the net under the US Government site for anyone willing to look it up. Both Reagan and Bush Sr. authorized those grants because at the time Saddam was fighting the Iranian hoards for us in a proxy war.
Further note that Saddam never used such weapons against his “Own People” as the idiots in the press maintain, he used them against the Kurds which were people who came from Turkey and were trying to establish an autonomous nation in the north of Iraq.
Any national leader would have responded in similar fashion to an open invasion of their nation. It seems both the press, as well as readers of their foolishness, are incapable of noting the difference in spelling between “Kurd” and Iraqi”, or comprehending that they are a totally different people.
Lastly, I submit that anything read in the press or seen on television be held as suspect until confirmed. Note that every year in congress there is a bill submitted which simply states that all government propaganda be so labeled, and each year it fails.
We then are shown this and that scene supposedly from a war front and believe it as real. Most of those scenes are total fabrications done in a studio.
Americans today are very gullible people with a pathetic ability to question what they are told. A vast change from the fiercely independent men and women who built and left us the greatest nation on earth.
The question asked in our national anthem is appropriate indeed!

Lets see: Anne you said in your idiotic response:
“Further note that Saddam never used such weapons against his “Own People” as the idiots in the press maintain, he used them against the Kurds which were people who came from Turkey and were trying to establish an autonomous nation in the north of Iraq.
Any national leader would have responded in similar fashion to an open invasion of their nation. It seems both the press, as well as readers of their foolishness, are incapable of noting the difference in spelling between “Kurd” and Iraqi”, or comprehending that they are a totally different people.
By your reasoning should we mustard gas the millions of Mexican Illegal immigrants invading the USA ?? You are completely guilty of the accusations you make.

His term is over in 7 months!
By the time he would be impeached and convicted, is there a point?

I hope the Republicians agree to the hearings. It will finally bring into the light all of this information. But I will bet as soon as the Republicans agree to the hearings the Democrats will pull the impeachment off the table. Like what happened in 2006 when they tried to impeach the VP. The Democrats are afraid of the truth reaching the general public. God knows every time someone tries to tell the truth they get shouted down or disrupted.

Wow — if Kucinich was so concerned about all this “wrongdoing” — where has he been? What took him so long? Not very efficient for a Congressman! I think it’s all politics, timed for the election and a bunch of the usual deomcratic hogwash!

Dave, you hit it right on the nail! The House voted 251-166 to send Rep. Kucinich’s (D-OH) 35 articles of impeachment to the House Judiciary Commitee, which is chaired by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI). This is the same committee in which articles of impeachment against VP Cheney were sent last year.
You are also correct when you wrote: “The Democrats are afraid of the truth reaching the general public.” The Democratic leadership knows that these articles of impeachment are bogus. They don’t want the public to know how they duped the electorate in order to sweep control of both Houses. The Democrats ran on impeachment and being anti-war, and that energized the left wing of the Party. This was especially true in the Senate where there were several extremely close races all going for the Democrats. And considering the current makeup (Dem 49 Rep 49 Ind 2) without an energized left the Republicans would have easily maintained conrol of the Senate.
Impeachment hearings are now dead. Do you honestly believe that the Democrats in the House want to divert attention from their re-election campaigns? And then there is the media coverage. Do you honestly believe that the Democrats want the media spending the next several months covering impeachment hearings and effectively burying Sen. Obama’s message of “hope” and “change?”

iraq because of our invasion is forever LOST the more secure and stronger we make it the worst enemy it will become.. if it was a true ally it would cut ties whith iran recognize israeland suppor the us at least 95% leaving iraq is not surrender its DISENGAGEMENT we can still leave… support our allies to fight anny militant uprising.. iraq and iran use to contain each other but know i think because of what we’ve done we will have to support some ellements in iraq to to face the iranian and get the hell out of their so we could concentrate on afghanistan which is slipping away ….lets face it the us CANT FIGHT TWO WARS SUCSESFULLY AT THE SAME TIME THATS WY I THINCK OBAMA PLAN IS MUCH BETTER FOR AMERICA

One of the biggest things overlooked in the Iraq debacle is that the US invaded a country run by the minority in the middle east called the Sunii to replace it with Hamaz and Hezbollah courtesy of Palestine and Iran are Shiite. Why oh why would anyone without an ulterior motive bring down Sunii to implement a Shiite terrorist gov’t in Iraq? They had a perfectly fine infrastructure with a leader who is less of a threat than Pakistan’s…
The only answer is STUPIDITY and PROFITEERING. The stupidity of it is the long term effect this greed will cause the US for many years.