Couric: Clinton “Received Some of the Most Unfair, Hostile Coverage I’ve Ever Seen”
Receiving an award named after feminist icon Alice Paul yesterday, CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric said, according to Media Bistro’s Patrick Gavin that "however you feel about her politics, I feel that Sen. Clinton received some of the most unfair, hostile coverage I’ve ever seen" — rooted in sexism, she charged, helping to lead to her defeat.
Couric recalled one "prominent member of the commentariat" saying he "found it hard to be objective when it came to Obama."
She said she remembers thinking, "that’s your job" and that he should "find another line of work."
I don’t disagree with the notion that Clinton received unfair and hostile coverage, some of which was rooted in sexism (though surely some of it, such as the Bosnia sniper fire episode, had nothing to do with her gender).
But did it contribute to her defeat? I tend to think that generally most reporters were fair, it was a small percentage that weren’t. But enough to notice, for sure.
And one wonders how much one of those reporters now on the Clintons’ proverbial enemies list may have actually impacted votes. In some ways their boorishness may have helped galvanize Clinton supporters, especially women, far more than it convinced anyone to vote against the senator.
None of which is to excuse it. But exit polls indicated that most of those for whom gender was an important voting issue went for Clinton. And most of those for whom race was an important voting issue went for Clinton, as well. That data would seem to indicate Clinton was helped far more than she was hurt by her gender. And Obama was hurt far more than he was helped by his race.
I wish I knew which "prominent member of the commentariat" who struggled to be objective Couric was talking about.
For journalism’s sake I wish there weren’t so many possibilities to choose from!
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Jake said… I wish I knew which “prominent member of the commentariat” who struggled to be objective Couric was talking about……
Probably the one who “felt a thrill run up his leg during an Obama speech,” don’t you think?
Posted by: Charlie35 | June 11, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I would not be surpirsed if they were refering to two of the MSNBC anchors, I can think of one man who gave one of the nasties, rudes editorals I had ever heard and stop watching his show because of it.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Yes Charlie35 that is one of the MSNBC guys that I was referring to, the other was in sports business before.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!
NO OBAMA — HE HAS BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. THE DNC AND BIASED MEDIA HID THE TRUTH FROM AMERICANS UNTIL AFTER OVER HALF OF AMERICANS HAD VOTED.
BARACK AND MICHELLE ARE RACIST ANTI-AMERICANS. READ HIS BOOK. READ HER COLLEGE THESIS.
I BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS AND THE DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES HAVE FORCED OBAMA DOWN OUR THROATS. MOST OF MY FRIENDS FEEL THE SAME WAY.
AMERICANS NEED TO REPLACE ALL THE DEMOCRATICS IN CONGRESS WHO DID NOT LISTEN TO US — THEY STOLE THIS ELECTION.
HOW MUCH MONEY DID OBAMA PAY DELEGATES? WE NEED AN ACCOUNTING.
THE PEOPLE DEMAND “ELECTED” — NOT “SELECTED”!
Posted by: kerry | June 11, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
IS THAT ALSO WHY KATIE HAS THE WORST RATINGS IN CBS NEWS HISTORY. GIVE ME A BREAK KATIE….
Posted by: Jim | June 11, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
The example that Couric cited is a classic example of biased news coverage that is NOT rooted in sexism. I wish that she could have at least cited a more relevant example to make her point. Bias is firmly rooted in the overwhelmingly libera mass media, as well as in the vastly smaller conservative media, like FOX and talk radio. You can’t change a reporter’s inherent ideology or motivation. Sexism was far less prominent in this campaign than simple bias and preference for one candidate over another. Let’s face it, the media does not like the Clintons, and never have. The press liked their liberal ideology, but hated the Clintons on a personal basis, for many reasons as heavily discussed in the media for years.
Posted by: Joan | June 11, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Boo-hoo, nitwit Katie who is nothing but a theatre of false personality, feels that the Presidential campaign was “unfair” to poor Hilliary. NO, was it fair to Dukakis in ’88, Dole in ’96, Nader whenever he ran??? Give me a freakin’ break and grow a pair girl! Just go back on tv and tell me what silly little thing I should be afraid of. Ugh! Twerp.
Posted by: patriot | June 11, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
senator Clinton WAS treated unfairly – even in this article – you bring up Bosnia as a reason. Was Obama treated unfairly due to Rev Wright? NO! He was given Prime Time to vent a civil rights address. And when it was apparent HE HAD LIED – he was given more time to address the issue.
THE MEDIA DID IT’S BEST TO POINT US TOWARDS A LIAR AND A RACIST – OBAMA.
HILLARY OR MCCAIN 2008
Posted by: XTRA1XTRA2 | June 11, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
My vote would be for Chris Matthews and the rest of the idiots at MSNBC. And to think these guys make so much money makes me sick. Katie is right on!
Posted by: Kathie | June 11, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
OH KATIE GIVE IT A REST!!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Bridget said…I would not be surpirsed if they were refering to two of the MSNBC anchors, I can think of one man who gave one of the nasties, rudes editorals I had ever heard and stop watching his show because of it……
Neither do I! I wrote the editorial board at MSNBC and told them that because of the biased and nasty coverage by those two and by Abrams who only pretended to be fair, I no longer watched MSNBC TV.
Posted by: Charlie35 | June 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Please!!! I am woman. It embarrasses me that people claim sexism. If that was true why then before the primaries started did all the major news outlets do stories on how Hillary is shoe in and she is going to crush everyone else and it would be a quick primary.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Katie sure as #ell didn’t say anything when it was going on! She should’ve opened her trap along time ago!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
When you’re president, you’re ultimately accountable for what happens in the country, no matter who’s to blame for it. With the office comes great privilege and great responsibility. When you’re running for president, you’re also accountable–for your campaign. So while it’s a shame that Patti Solis Doyle apparently almost ran the campaign into the ground, and that Mark Penn didn’t choose the right message, and that Pres. Clinton ran his mouth off, and that some members of the media were biased, and a whole host of other unfortunate events, ultimately it’s Hillary who lost, and it’s Hillary who’s accountable for that loss. You can try and pass the buck all you want, but all that ends up communicating to the American people is that your candidate is not presidential material.
Posted by: angelina | June 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
MSNBCs Tucker Carlson, Chris Mathews, and Pumpkin Head were the most biased media. I watched Chris Mathews interview Obama and I thought he was going to start French Kissing him. I believe if Obama divorces Michelle Chris Mathews will be first to ask for his hand in marriage.
Posted by: RobY | June 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
It’s not only the subtle sexist comments and condescending tone (words like pimping out comes to mind) – but the unfair coverage Clinton got. Just take the debates, for example, no one ever pressed Obama for answers until the ABC debate. When Clinton announced her economic plan, the media was busy praising Obama on his basketball skills. Even if you say that it galvanized Clinton supporters, the undecided voters were the ones that got affected by this very biased coverage. DNC elders like P Leahy, Pelosi, practically pushing Clinton out the door didn’t help. Clinton’s campaign also made mistakes but so did Obama’s. The media just magnified Clinton’s because they want to and they can.
Posted by: FormerDemocrat | June 11, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Does anyone remember the ABC debate moderated by Charles Gibson. It was very unfair toward Obama. Hillary was certainly the biggest whiner of the campaign.
Posted by: pt | June 11, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
ABC debate wasn’t unfair they were fair to the point that they were the only ones that didn’t give BO a pillow & a free ride! He was asked questions that no one would ask & he got pretty irritated! He was skirming pretty good. Looked like a big idiot!!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
It hit me last night that both candidates and the press think that we’re all morons; simplistic answers to complicated problems may make for good sound bites on the evening news but serve all of us poorly.
I don’t care about “Gotcha,” I do care about a comprehensive game plan that doesn’t insult my meager intelligence.
Charlie, you’re a class act.
Posted by: Jack Norris | June 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Please!!! I am woman. It embarrasses me that people claim sexism. If that was true why then before the primaries started why did all the major news outlets do stories on how Hillary is shoe in and she is going to crush everyone else and it would be a quick primary.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
What journalists love most is a story… a compelling one. They have latched on to Obama because he is not just news, he is a new face.
McCain and Clinton are old news, so until another new shiny object comes their way, a good number of them will be adding to the messianic story as if writing a new Gospel.
But just wait until the next new face lights them up… he’ll be thrown out like yesterday’s papers.
In the meantime, the American voter must parse though all of this to get at the real story… who the heck is this guy and what makes him qualified to be the next President of the US.
But, the “story” be damned, this is our future we are considering not the ending to a movie, but our lives. So, take heed, just because it’s on the news (msm, blog, newspaper, etc.), does not necessarily mean it is impartial.
Posted by: smartprimate | June 11, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Angelina,
I take offense with your comment about Sen. Clinton wasn’t presidential material. Obama will have a harder time convincing people he is presidential material. As well as McCain. Because of attitudes and media biases, Obama may not get elected. People would rather live in poverty than vote for a black man. As far as McCain, he may have a slight edge in becoming president because he’s white eventhough he isn’t presidental material.
Posted by: Lois, California | June 11, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Looks like another Bridget is here:-)
Couric is right. What the MSM did with Hillary is unfair and shameful but it’s too late. The Dems choose the weakest candidate who will lose in November.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Senator Hillary Clinton certainly did receive unfair and sexist statements from MSM, the Obama campaign, his supporters, the DNC and Democratic VIPs. They muiliplied each and every gaffe Clinton made by 1000% and ignored the same in Obama. Obama’s basckground is absolutely filled with crooks, criminals and crazies and the MSM ignored the truth about him. Obama would not know truth if it hit him in the face. And he would blame soimeone else. He was a whiner and blamer amd so very corrupt. He is not presidential material.
Posted by: Mary | June 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Jake commented:
“And most of those for whom race was an important voting issue went for Clinton”
and what a bout the 90 plus percent of AA voters for Obama. You don’t think that was race based??
Come on, Jake. Respectfully, are you kidding???
Posted by: countallthevotes | June 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Whiteclintonsupporter posted:
“DIFFERENCE, HE DOES NOT WHINE,WHINE,WHINE ABOUT IT”
That is very sexist. Do you even know that?
Posted by: countallthevotes | June 11, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I find it more than humourous that we Clinton supporters were talking about the double infuence of the media right from the moment the Iowa caucus results were known.
- anti clinton
Every negative possible was portrayed.
- pro Obama
The guy was HYPED into a messiah and the not one bit of vetting nor challenging of his credentials.
Nobody on earth stands a chance when the media his hell bent on electing their opponent.
The most galling thing of all is that the media waits until IT GETS WHAT IT WANTS (Clinton out) THEN ADMITS ITS BIAS.
Posted by: tomdavie | June 11, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Clinton, Obama, and Ron Paul all got the shaft by the media. I am waiting for McCain’s thrashing.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Senator Clinton did receive unfair coverage from CNN, ABC, MSNBC and net outlets. Senator Obama’s campaign is based on distortions and cover-up but only FOX News paid any attention. He completely lacks intergity and judgement. The DNC gave him the selection through affirmative action. His policies, speeches and even his mottos were stolen. He is a dud. And he was born in Mobassa, Kenya on his date of birth, not Hawaii.
Posted by: Maggie | June 11, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
No kidding. Of course Clinton was treated horribly by the media. Most of us know that. So, where was Katie WHILE this was happening?
Where was Feinstein and all the others WHILE this was happening? Too little, too late. Now we have a grossly inexperienced person as our nominee.
I wish those people would have had the courage to speak out when the sexism and hostility were going on.
Posted by: Ana | June 11, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Thank you, Katie – you stand up for women. MSNBC is sexism especially chris mathews, Russet and Ole. They are pro-obama. If the good reporters, they should be neutral in the race.
Posted by: Stephanie | June 11, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
My admiration for Couric just increased tenfold.
Posted by: Cardsgal | June 11, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Very true. They’ll turn on Obama too.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
The flip side of reporters being hard on Hillary is being easy on Obama, and echoing the talking points of the Obama campaign. This was especially true when the Obama campaign engaged in race baiting.
Early on, the Obama campaign followed Bill and Hillary (and their friends) around looking for any comments that could be interpreted as racial. They pulled comments out of context or purposely misinterpreted them, fed them to the press under the table, and let the press do the dirty work. Once the press started accusing the Clintons of making racial comments the Obama campaign jumped in claiming to be shocked.
This travisty of press coverage was orchestrated by the Obama campaign, with the help of an adoring press. The purpose was to turn the black community against the Clintons.
Obviously, the Obama campaign was successful. Now it owns the black vote. If I were a black voter I would be outraged by the hypocracy of the Obama campaign in manipulating black voters.
The obvious dishonesty of the Obama campaign reminds me of the Bushies. The appeals to the baser instincts of their supporters reminds me of the way the Bush campaign used to work up its base.
McCain at least tries to be honest with people. He may be the only hope for avoiding four more years of Bush-like corruption in Washington.
Posted by: David H | June 11, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman were made for one another. I agree she was treated badly by others, but those 2….made me sick. And there was a rumur Matthews was running for an electd office, (don;t know how true that is), but if it is, my wish is that he be treated just as badly as he treated Hillary. And they way he calls Obama..Barack, like they are intimate aquantences….HMMMMMM. Maybe
Posted by: char19145 | June 11, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Jake
I know it’s convenient for journalists to believe that the media doesn’t influence people. I think the fact that the most undemocratic dictatorships so closely control the media should give you a clue.
Not just the constant Hillary bashing but the use of Obama’s campaign’s talking points to try and prove racism against civil rights activists are blatant attempts to influence the American public to the advantage of a political agenda.
The unbelievable slander of the Clinton’s and Ferraro regarding racism has done a disservice to America. If their sin was speaking in “racial coding” then what about the Wrights and Pflegers and Farrakans of the world? This election has created an environment where we have gone retro in race relations to the extent that the profane and anti-White hate talk from Obama’s pulpit has been excused and accepted. And Obama’s blatant lies regarding his church are being accepted with no scrutiny.
Can you imagine if Clinton’s long term mentor was Rezko and trust me Whitewater was not comparable to the thousands of dollars that obama benefited from his real estate transaction.
Despite the constant and calls by the media for Clinton to step down she won 9 or the last 14 contests. Of course she lost votes in the process. And how would the DNC reacted if the media would have slanted the story to be that every vote should count instead of “Clinton’s breaking the Rules?
So when you notice the ex-Clinton supporters voting for McCain and assume that they are raving lunatics remember that before the biased coverage sent them to FOX they never would have considered it.
Unlike many of the disgruntled people I know I believe it was only 50% sexism. I think the rest was personal…”Clinton fatique”? You guys got tired of the story so you have changed it for us…This makes your responsibility greater..
Well many of us will see what we can do to change the story for Obama! I’m guessing the massive anti-Obama story will not make it to the MSM, but it is playing out in the blogs and communities everywhere. The backlash is massive. So polls are telling you that it’s OK and Obama will be annointed?…and Democratic party heads aren’t mentioning the thousands of emails and calls that will not stop? Not a story that interests you guys I guess.
I saw this outrage from the beginning! It no longer puzzles me…there is no excuse and we will REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!
Posted by: Jackie | June 11, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
“countallthevotes”
black people did not back Obama until white people started voting for him. before that most supported Hillary. since you countallthevotes, get your facts straight
Posted by: behonest | June 11, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I turned to CBS (away from NBC and ABC) because I found that Couric’s nightly broadcast was the least insulting to Hillary. My husband and I concluded that Couric was sensitive to this. Couric may not have spoke out on this, be she walked the walk.
Posted by: tina | June 11, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
PT: Do you remember how EVERY SINGLE DAY during the primary campaign, you could come to this very website and see a pro-Obama headline and/or a negative Hillary headline. Biases, both subtle and overt, were shown by ABC News every day.
Posted by: Cardsgal | June 11, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Well, everyone has their opinion I guess.
I personally didn’t think the coverage of Clinton was all that unfair. What WAS unfair was her campaign trying to inject sexism and racism into the mix because they were losing.
Posted by: Politivine | June 11, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
if absolutely nobody here was fooled from the beginning, then you can’t blame the media……this playing victim thing is getting very tired.
Posted by: hmmmmm | June 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Katie,
Once again, you’ve shown the masses that you only need to read the news in front of you. You don’t need to understand it. Did it ever occur to you that the lies that Hillary spewed did her in? YES, LIKE BOSNIA!
Posted by: DAVID NH | June 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Katie Couric is right. And this is not just women whining.
Lou Dobbs, certainly an independent voice, has said for months that he has never in all his years as a journalist seen more biased and disgraceful media coverage.
The drive-by hit squad media dissed Clinton at every turn while giving Obama a manicure and fluffing his pillows on national television.
Posted by: Annagain | June 11, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
kerry…I think an investigation should be done to see how much Obama did pay the superdelegates. I agree with your post 100%.
Posted by: carolyn | June 11, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
David NH…All the lies that Obama told and you pick on Bosnia. You really must be kidding!!!
Posted by: carolyn | June 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
So, is Katie the siren on the Clinton WAH-mbulance now?
Jeez. This and the NYT report that the Clintons are keeping some sort of enemies list like a pair of 4th graders is yet another in a long list of examples as to why they are finished politically and should NEVER be in the upcoming Administration.
Posted by: Texas Voter | June 11, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
We trust our journalists to tell us what’s going on. When they (at least a lot of them) decided after Iowa that Obama was their man, they influenced voters. They told us time and again that Hillary was done for — you don’t think that suppressed her vote??? You don’t think viewers of MSNBC felt the hostile pressure against Clinton? Except maybe for the independent spirit of people in NH and SD, but for much of the rest of the country, you don’t think they helped suppress voter turnout in places like WV and PR? Big turnout in those places could have made a difference for her. You can bet your last dollar if Obama had been the one slightly trailing, it would have been an entirely different story: “oh, this race is close” and people would been encouraged to come out and vote. The media and the DNC shut this race down so Obama could win.
Posted by: Vnd | June 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Unprovable comment, gross supposition such as this, just one of the many reasons why press has become more commentary rather than reporting.
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OUTSTANDING OBSERVATION.
THE MEDIA NO LONGER REPORTS THE NEWS. THEY INTERPRET THE NEWS AND SPIN IT TO THE READERS AND VIEWERS. (aka. Fox “journalism”)
ED MURROW WOULD BE ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A REPORTER IN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
Posted by: The Reason | June 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
The GOP, the stalwarts of Big Oil corporations, No-bid Haliburton contracts, Blackwater contractors, torture, illegal spying. And their nominee is a confused, elderly man griping at the world to “get off my lawn.”
Posted by: True Blue Dem | June 11, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
She tried, she failed…GET OVER IT!!! Even if she was running against “None of the above”, it would get a sizeable amount of voters against her. That’s just the way she is. She is polarizing just like Bush. And nothing will change that, no matter what. Realize it and MOVE ON! I’m sure if Bush was running again he would have the same result, okay. THINK about it! It’s time for somebody else, she’s done enough for now.
Posted by: patriot | June 11, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Ms. Couric is mistaken. Commentators are not expected to be “objective.” It’s their job to have opinions. As long as they are clear with their readers or listeners about what they value and why, the audience can make up its own mind. Newsreaders and reporters, by contrast, do have a goal of objectivity.
Posted by: TKD | June 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
I’ll say it again- the media coverage was biased simply because of who they preferred for the nominee. Not particularly because of sexism. The media practically hand-picked McCain for the Republican nominee. How? They did not ever report a negative story about McCain, excluding his alleged infidelity with a female lobbyist, which was broken by FOX news. The liberal media was forced to run a few stories on it, largely discounting it. In the meanwhile, they wrote way too many negative stories about Romney, to hurt him. The MSM also refused to run any negative stories about Huckabee, so that he would stay in the race, and split the conservative vote with Romney. This insured a victory for McCain, orchestrated by the media. The media controls everything. Hard to win without their support. Hillary and Romney most definitely did not have their support. Obama and McCain certainly did. Sexism played only a small role in this nomination process, and Hillary is strong enough to stand on her own with any male.
Posted by: Joan | June 11, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
patriot — you want us to get over it?
No way! Never forget, never forgive!
The Obama lies.
The Obama race baiting.
The suck up press.
All of this has tainted his campaign.
Obama’s presidency would be just like Bush’s. Incompetent president, arrogance, lies, intimidation of the media.
We cannot let this happen to us again.
Posted by: David H | June 11, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Katie should just shut her trap.
She is on tape asking the obama how can you even think to ask Hillary to be your vp, then making faces after the question.
Just shut up Katie, who I can see why she is the only major news anchor to not host a debate.
Posted by: toby | June 11, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
more spin: Clinton helped by her gender, Obama hurt by his race. Pathetic.
just like I welcome the automation of banking, the automation of buying, the automation of stock accouts and currency trading, I will welcome the day “truth” is a direct clip away. No more intermediaries, more C-SPAN’s.
Posted by: rw in ct | June 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Why complain about how unfair and hostile the media covered Hillary?
The media was much more unfair and hostile toward Obama about Jeremiah Wright, especially since Jeremiah Wright was just telling the truth. So what if Obama looked up to Jeremiah Wright. The guy is right on what is wrong with America. Obama will fix these problems after he gets elected.
Posted by: DaShawn | June 11, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I couldn’t agree more with Couric. The media’s relentless bashing of Clinton was disgraceful! She’s right – if they have to struggle to be objective then they’re in the wrong line of work! Whatever you think of Hillary, the media slashed her like no candidate I’ve ever seen. The media acted as a surrogate for Obama with a daily drumbeat of scathing attacks on Hillary. It did terrible damage.
And now the media is referring to the Clinton’s “Enemies List”, a term from the Nixon era. That is a disgusting way to categorize what every politician does: remember who stood with them and who stabbed them in the back. As JFK said: “Forgive your enemies but don’t forget their names.”
Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 11, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
After 8 years of Bush, resession, maybe depression, Iraq, maybe Iran, global warming, ask the polar bears, the best we can come up with is Affirmative Action Plus Obama and a man who thinks he fought with George Washington, maybe he did. HELP
Posted by: Doomed | June 11, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
A black man will be elected president in November. Get over it. For the first time in history, the White House will no longer be just for “whites” anymore.
Posted by: DaShawn | June 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
YES, EVERYONE WAS OUT TO GET POOR HILLARY!
EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WAS MEAN TO POOR HILLARY.
NO ONE WAS NICE TO POOR HILLARY.
IT WAS A MEDIA CONSPIRACY AGAINST POOR HILLARY.
AWE, POOR HILLARY. POOR, POOR HILLARY
Posted by: More Whining? | June 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
DaShawn writes:
“Obama will fix these problems after he gets elected.”
Get a clue: Barky’s not going to BE elected.
It’s not at all certain that either the Presumptively-Anointed One OR Senator McCain actually will be nominated.
If these two are the best the “major” parties can come up with, the whole electoral machine is gonna go cattywumpus, howEVER much the corporate commentariat squeaks and squeals.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Share the power!
Share the wealth!
Share the dream!
Obama 08
Posted by: DaShawn | June 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
The media covers all the candidates with scutiny. The front runners always get more criticsim.
In the beginning, Hillary was “inevitable”.
After February, Barack was the front runner and got drilled by the media.
It may not be right.
But this is NOT sexism.
Posted by: Alan G | June 11, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
It’s not at all certain that either the Presumptively-Anointed One OR Senator McCain actually will be nominated
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Care to bet on it?
I’ll give you 5 to 1
Posted by: The Gambler | June 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Quotes from one of Obama’s speeches.
“My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join me as we try to change it.”
And now he wants to change it to socialism and a third world type country. Obama, the hope giver and changer. He is a dud.
Posted by: Mary | June 11, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Please!!! I am woman. It embarrasses me that people claim sexism. If that was true why then before the primaries started did all the major news outlets do stories on how Hillary is shoe in and she is going to crush everyone else and it would be a quick primary.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Suppose “DaShawn” is really Obama operative Lawrence Lessig?
Posted by: Peer 2 Peer | June 11, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
–DaShawn wrote–
Share the Power
Share the Wealth
Share the Dream
THAT IS SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM. And Obama will take us there.
Posted by: Mary | June 11, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
The “sexist” coverage worked both ways.
In many ways she was given enormous breaks because there are taboos against being too mean to a woman. Many of her shortcomings were overlooked, and much of what was said about her, which was true, was branded as sexism.
She was, for instance, very mean-spirited. That’s a fact — but because she’s a woman it was “sexist” to point that out.
In many of her tirades she really did remind me of “Mommy Dearest,” but can you say that? Of course not, that’s sexist.
Posted by: valerie | June 11, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Clinton got the worse media, the headlines were not nice. Seem like they always tried to Dig into her.
Obama got Just about all favorable media.
McCain they like to dig into also. Which they have increased on that.
Obama started the dirty campaigning when he first walked out and started blaming everyone for everything. When he was asked questions he would divert the subject by taking a dig at one of the other Candidates. The others caught on but none could or wanted to compete with him in that fashion. But when they did, he whinned and moaned all over the media.
Worse Obama started a hatefest. I have never seen anything like it.
His blame and condemn game payed off for him. From his first days campaigning it was blame bush, blame the country, blame hillary on and on and on. every speech, adding to it. a constant barrage. Then stand back and try to play the innocent one.
Still sad when you see so many hateful people
Posted by: seah | June 11, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
“Half the media is female. Yet Katie suggests THEY were all sexist in their views?”
Did you watch Andrea Mitchell (MSNBC), or the Gorgon Sisters (Brown/Crowley/Borger) at CNN? They couldn’t have made it more obvious.
Now is this stuff new? No. The media made Jimmy Carter a favorite too and that was the single most important factor in his nomination. It happens.
I was simply struck by the ferocity and hypocrisy of the MSM regards Clinton. Usually journalists are more subtle with that kind of advocacy unless you happen to be Geraldo Rivera for whom the term ‘advocacy journalism’ was coined. As a journalism student at the time, I was taught this was a serious breach of professional ethics. Now it is standard operating procedure.
I do expect CBS to benefit in the blowback over this because I hear the same comments about the MSM across the communities. Women in particular are visibly angry.
Posted by: len | June 11, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Get a Life…………. Please…
Its time to go after the 100 Year man ..
than sees no Problems!
Posted by: Anita Yova | June 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Gender Bias? I suppose that bias is why CBS News ratings plundered when Katie took the anchor.
Or maybe it just Hillary ran a bad campaign and Katie was too good for too long as a Morning New personality that people simply couldn’t switch to seeing America’s Sweetheart do heavy news.
Those things are bias — they’re just fact. Hillary had all the advnatage at the beginning and her aloofness and her porr campaign management cost her the nomination. GET OVER IT.
Posted by: Katie Kavanaugh | June 11, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
We will GET OVER IT! right after we vote President McCain into office. :D
Posted by: LeeLee07 | June 11, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Obama said, “Countrywide Financial was one of the folks, one of the institutions that was pumping up the subprime lending market and inducing people to take out these subprime loans,” Obama said in Lancaster, Pa. “These are the folks who are responsible for infecting the economy and helping to create a home foreclosure crisis. Two million people may end up losing their homes.” Yet, I (OBAMA) have Jim Johnson working for me—-actually “not working for me” just doing labor for me—yes, Jim actually got several of those below market value loans from Countrywide…but it’s different as he got “special treatment” and that’s okay. Obama came down on Hillary Clinton for having one of her campaign advisers working for Countryside—well that was different then. It’s No Big Deal because Jim Johnson has quit now so he will not drag down my outstanding judgment in asking him to help with some manual labor —of course he gets no pay, well now, maybe after I am elected, he will be added to my administration.
Posted by: Anne | June 11, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
RobY writes:
“I believe if Obama divorces Michelle . . . ”
As long as he DOESn’t, she can’t be forced to testify against him.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 11, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Yes, and playing the same Jeremiah Wright clip over and over and over wasn’t racist at all.
Posted by: CJ | June 11, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Wasn’t Katie the person that asked Hillary important questions,at a debate, like pearls or diamonds? Then in a 60 min interviewasked about her “Someone told me your nickname in school was Miss Frigidaire. Is that true?”
I guess she could have been referring to herself, but NOW she is complaining about others, Good One
Posted by: Lyn | June 11, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
DaShawn,
YOUR black man will not be elected in November, start assimilating it, ’cause the high they go the harder they fall.
Posted by: rw in ct | June 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Lyn,
just an add on. Katie Couric also asked Condaleeza Rice if she was dating — ya know, just standard questions asked of every Secretary of State.
Posted by: pembleton | June 11, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
The example that Couric cited is a classic example of biased news coverage that is NOT rooted in sexism. I wish that she could have at least cited a more relevant example to make her point. Bias is firmly rooted in the overwhelmingly libera mass media, as well as in the vastly smaller conservative media, like FOX and talk radio. You can’t change a reporter’s inherent ideology or motivation. Sexism was far less prominent in this campaign than simple bias and preference for one candidate over another. Let’s face it, the media does not like the Clintons, and never have. The press liked their liberal ideology, but hated the Clintons on a personal basis, for many reasons as heavily discussed in the media for years.
Posted by: Joan | June 11, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Dee I agree with you….the undertones and overtones of racism are floating around with the “affirmative action” jabs at Obama. As the grandmother of a bi-racial grandson I appreciate your mentioning it.
LeeLee07-
I believe that by constantly playing Wright’s clips the media actually desensitised the public to them and they became less offensive and more acceptable. The last time this particular phenomonon struck me was the Rodney King beating by LA police in the 90′s. It was seen so much that it lost it’s impact. Did you notice how the clips that were a direct attack on Hillary were played less? I don’t think it was really intentional. Somehow though this election crossed a line and hate talk and profane political attacks from the pulpit are excused.
Posted by: Jackie | June 11, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Hillary was definitely helped more by sexism than hurt by it. Most of the “harsh” coverage of her was wondering if/when she was going to drop out. The media basically ignored the Clinton’s past scandals/associations and the conflict of interest created by Bill making millions basically as a lobbyist for hire while Hillary was running for president.
Posted by: X marks the spot | June 11, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
WELL SAID DEE and JOAN.
The Media wanted both McCain and Obama. They are still claiming that McCain is a Maverick – which is so far from the truth – how many times has he flipped -flopped? Yet he’s never been called out. They maligned/persecuted/vilified Sen. Clinton (Pres. Clinton and even Chelsea)at every turn. They played the “race card” as in the fairytale story and the MLK/LBJ story to cause African Americans to turn on the Clintons. Obama did not have to play dirty because he had the media doing that.
Posted by: DAR | June 11, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
epicurious writes:
“the people who keep saying there was no or little sexism in the media coverage are mostly MEN.”
Click.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 11, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I’ve been paying attention lately on MSM.
Who they hit harder between the 2 nominees.
I think they are still on Obama’s side.
Posted by: catleya | June 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Good for Katie Couric! She is right.
No one is saying it is THE reason she lost. However, she did endure months of unfair bashing and you gotta wonder what impact it did have.
Posted by: Liberal Democrat | June 11, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I love “The List.” I hope they all pay.
I also hope Bill Clinton packs up his Harlem, NY office and takes the Revenues he generates by being there, with him and I’m sure he could also do something different with his Global Initiative charity. He’s not appreciated? Neither is his charity.
There’s so many things the Clintons can do to those back-stabbers. I will enjoy watching EVERY MINUTE OF IT.
Posted by: Vickie | June 11, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
bebe quotes thecityedition:
“In the case of Senator Obama, they have covered up the extent of his links to organized crime and at least two Iraqi foreign agents with whom he has documented ties.”
But, bebe: doesn’t the Anointed One’s off-black birthday suit make ALL the difference? John KERRY said it does.
:^|
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 11, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Toby, the only reason Katie didn’t host a debate is because crybaby Obama cancelled the one scheduled for NC after getting his butt whipped in the PA debate. Funny how he claims to want to debate McCain “anytime, anywhere” but ran from debating Hillary. (I guess that doesn’t include joint Town Halls since he’s turned McCain down on those too.)
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 11, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Chris Matthews/MSNBC said that we weren’t Americans if we didn’t cry listening to Obama’s race speech.
I must not be an American then.
Fanatical supporters/media are so in love with Obama, and Obama is so in love with himself–I just have to turn the channel.
If the media/supporters treat McCain with as much disrespect as Hillary I suspect there will be a backlash from veterans and older voters. Decent people resent bullies.
McCain/Hillary
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 11, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
DeShawn wants us to Share the Power, Share the Wealth, Share the Dream… um, how about working to get your own power, wealth, and dreams instead of trying to take it from the people who earned it as though you’re entitled to it for doing nothing? America is a great country of unlimited opportunity – but you’ve got to be willing to work (and work hard) for it.
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 11, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I can name a whole list that was part of the Hillary Haters, Chris matthews, keith Obermann, Nora O’donnell, David Shuster, Tim Russert, Andrea Mitchell, Cooper Anderson, Wolf Blitzer,Kira Phillips,Gloria Bolger,Donna Brazille jeff Toobin, Jack Mccaffety. Even now that Hillary is gone, they still spew there hate. It is NOT Hillary’s job to get the votes for Obama it is his to earn. The Hillary Hater Media is just turning off her supporters. We just won’t vote!
Posted by: Shirley | June 11, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
@Posted by: Jackie | Jun 11, 2008 4:52:14 PM
Hi Jackie – Just getting back to this blog. Yes, I think you are right about how that particular tape being played over and over lost its shock value. I also could not understand why the one about Hillary was seldom played and was not really addressed by the media or the Obama campaign. Obama acted as if that particular episode had never happened. As far as crossing the line – when I heard Roland Martin and company essentially excuse the way Wright had behaved because he was an “older” black man, I knew the news media really had lost all objectivity!
Funny thing though, is that the Wright tape aired the day after Keith Olbermann did his rant against Hillary and Ferraro, saying basically that Hillary was running a racist campaign. I don’t think I ever heard Olbermann say a thing about the Wright tapes…
Party Unity My *** – PUMA
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | June 11, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
I would guess that Katie probably says the same thing about why she is third in the ratings…
when really it has to do with that bad lighting job…they make her look like she has lasers coming out of her eyes…
can’t they hire the set decorator, gaffer and lighting designer away from the Today show…
Moonves spend a dime on your nightly news and let Couric be Couric…rather than throw Couric under the bus with “ray gun eyes” and a straight jacket.
and then she provbably would recognize a badly run campaign as Hillary’s problem from sexism that didn’t seem to effect her for the two years leading up to the race.
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Hoosier Sue as someone whose ancestors fought at Lexington and Concord…whose grandparents gave them a leg up…
whose parents worked their blue collar butts off to give me opportunity and who myself worked my way out of lower than middle class income bracket over twenty years…
who earned it…
Their are people who earn it…and their are people who have the deck stacked in their favor because of our government and mistakes of our history…
including women…
if you think it is wrong for obama to shift the weight of responsibility to those people who have prospered exponentially MUCH more from the way the deck is stacked and from the opportunities this country and it’s deck have afforded them…
…well, as an American…that says give me your tired your poor…your HUNGRY.
you’re wrong…everyone needs to work but everyone needs to keep working at making this a more perfect union and that every person is created equal under the law at birth.
That is not socialism…that is working capitalism…which is informed by grace.
and what makes America great.
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Don’t we all wish we could get a deal on our mortgage.
Chris Mathews also said he hated Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: obamasbeenlyin | June 11, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
The impact it had is obvious to anyone with thinking abilities. It encouraged female bashing of Hillary and female supporters as well as bashing of all and any Hillary supporters and THAT is what intensified female and male support. There are a lot of intelligent men who see the injustice as well. It discouraged people who were “leaning” for her. Come on people, it was deliberate political tactics provided by the owner of TIME WARNER and the likes.
Posted by: irma | June 11, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
The continuous drummed out calls to get out of the race came from Obama surrogates. It was deliberate to discourage voters who were leaning for Hillary.
Posted by: irma | June 11, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
many of the talking head women, andrea mitchell, etc. all said it is not bashing women, it is just hillary.
well if they think, that they would be spared, just because they are who they are, they are mistaken.
msm bashing one woman anywhere
is bashing all women everywhere
but sen. clinton is out now,
so leave her alone, she is out of this.
talk about michelle and cindy
Posted by: justsaying | June 11, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Katie is totally correct. The Today Show misses her seriousness and genuine sincerity. Tim Russert and Chris Matthews never did like the Clintons. I would almost guess since Matthews got so stupid that the person she was talking about might be Russert. The little commentary at the end of the primary broadcast, when they defended themselves against the Hillary trashing was so ridiculous that they HAD to have been told to explain it away. Andrea Mitchell just acted like a two faced highschool reporter wannabe and Donna Brazille just showed her true colors. But it wasn’t just them. The media gave Obama so much free advertisement that I’m sure he’s got plenty of money left for John McCain. The most ironic part of this is the bias that got him the nomination will be the same reason he loses in November.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | June 11, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I so agree with Couric about the media unfairly going after Hillary. Had the level of racism reached half the level sexism heads would have rolled. This was not journalism. We were given lies and propaganda. There was a time when being a journalist stood for something. A time when a journalist would never allow personal opinion to be known. I now cringe when I hear the likes of a David Gregory’s being a White House correspondent. Where does the truth begin for the Tim Russert’s of the media and slander end? I have been robbed of my faith in the media by all of those who behaved in such a dishonorable manner. Clearly Hillary Clinton did not deserve what took place during the campaign. More to the point the public was entitled to something far better than what was delivered throughout the primary season.
Posted by: marmeesmomma | June 12, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
So many times I made calls to MSNBC to complain about Keith Oberlman and Chris Matthews and Mika Brezynski, etc. on their bias reporting towards Hillary. It was absolutely disgusting. I am glad the Katie Kouric had the courage to say something.
Posted by: mary | June 12, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
The list is starting to grow, Brokaw, Couric, Phil Bronstein, that are coming out and outright just sticking it to MSNBC.
Appaently MSNBC couldn’t be happier, their ratings are up, and that’s probably all that matters.
http://www.FAIR-REFLECTION.com
http://www.Hillary-Wins.com
http://www.CaucusCheating.com
http://www.Florida-Michigan.com
Posted by: ItsAlessandro | June 12, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Katie’s looking for an excuse for herself? It was always the most privileged women who claimed that every barrier to their complete happiness was caused by men/sexism. Working class women who put up with most of the discrimination and sexism were never offered the “affirmative action” programs of the 70′s and 80′s that well heeled and educated women like Hillary were able to take advantage of. We weren’t in a position to assert our rights – and the feminist movement wasn’t much interested in blue-collar women like me. I’ve not seen one specific example of the sexism Clinton supporters are decrying. Candidates running against her had to pull their punches, walk on eggshells, and couldn’t even respond to anything she said or she’d cry that she was being attacked. It was ok for her, though, pull every trick out of the Republican’s southern strategy playbook and deny she was doing it. There are many women as, or more, able and intelligent and many, many more who are honorable, decent, caring people who’d make great Presidents. She isn’t one of them.
Posted by: Dodged a bullet | June 12, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
One other thing in all of this, there absolutely was a ton of bribing and cheating and intimdiating that went on in the caucus state voting, while the reporters fawned over Barack Obama.
Posted by: ItsAlessandro | June 12, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
The anchorman that made that statement was NBC’s Brian Williams.
Posted by: leslie | June 12, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am
Let’s face it, Clinton was not winning until she started whinning. The negative press and her crying about it definately helped her win in the final states.
I can remember her absolutely crowing when Obama was getting bad press. She stood on stage and said “If you can’t stand the heat…..”.
Whatever you say about MSNBC and Hillary can also be said about Obama and FOX. The even each other out.
Posted by: Katie from Kentucky | June 12, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am
Dodged a bullet,
“We weren’t in a position to assert our rights – and the feminist movement wasn’t much interested in blue-collar women like me.”
You are so right. The organizations that were supposed to help women like NOW would not help women living through sexism unless it could advance their organization (by making the news).
Obama 08!
Posted by: Woman | June 12, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Katie Couric is one to be added to the list..She herself did Hillary such an injustice when she interviewed her.
“Sen Clinton, what are you going to do if you lose?” Hillary said, “Well, I don’t intend to lose.” Katie, “Come on. Aren’t you just a little bit afraid?” Later in the interview, “Sen. Clinton, I understand that the boys in school had quite a unique nickname for you.” Hillary was obviously embarrassed but answered, “Well yes. They called me Frigidare.” This was right after the big smear about Hillary crying, a media EXAGGERATION!! It was obvious that Katie was trying her best to get Hillary to tear up again so she could be credited with the next big “Top Story” that the MSM viciously compete for. Those are just a couple of examples. Katie had a wonderful opportunity to help Hillary show that a woman can and was very qualified to be President. The media injustice didn’t just include the sexist remarks. It was also about the things the media didn’t do. Early in the race, their was absolutely no mention of the delegate count while Hillary was leading by 170 over Obama. The media also showed Obama’s speech after a huge victory for Hillary. I had to got to BBC to see her victory speech. When Hillary would win, the reporters headlines were, “What caused Sen. Obama to lose?” rather than congratulating her. Spins like..”Sen. Obama is only trailing Sen. Clinton by two states.” rather than, “Sen. Clinton is leading Sen. Obama by two states.” There’s a lot of to be said about the way a reporter words things, and the reporters intentionally worded things to Obama’s favor..From The O’Rielly Factor…he referred to a report that stated 84% of the reports about Obama were positive, compaired to only 53% percent of positive coverage of Sen. Clinton.” I could go on and on, but I think I made my point….
Posted by: Margaret | June 12, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
I strongly believe that there was a long list of reporters who felt that and actually were extremely pro Obama. One of them may have voiced his thoughts but there were certainly many who acted out on their feelings. Note to author: “That data would seem to indicate Clinton was helped far more than she was hurt by her gender. And Obama was hurt far more than he was helped by his race.” repeating this comment and offering an opinion that Clinton benefitted because of her race, would suggest that her coverage was fair and unbiased, this in my opinion suggest that this author is also more favorable to Obama than Clinton. Even when expressed in a subtle manner, it’s still obvious; but it is just my opinion.
Posted by: CTJD | June 12, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
As far as I’m concerned, the free press no longer exists; it’s power is available to the highest bidder… similar to the sale of our votes in the purchase of delegates.
What has happened to our DEMOCRATIC way of life?
It has become a joke…. just as this election has become a distorted burlesque of what our forefathers intended elections to be!
As a result, the best of the candidates was thrown out with the garbage even though she won the popular vote…. and we are stuck with an egomaniacal con artist and an older gentleman who may not have the fortitude to withstand the dirty campaign heading his way.
Couric’s change of heart is too little, too late.
The fourth estate should be renamed
“the FEH! estate”.
The DNC should be demolished.
Hillary before Obama
McCain before Obama…
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!
Posted by: questioner | June 12, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
About Belle Starr’s comment – hoping that Bill Clinton will pack in his office and go to some other location where he’ll be much more appreciated – you must have been reading my mind. I sent him an e-mail saying essentially the same thing. Makes me sick to think that, of all the places he could have set up shop after leaving the White House, he chose that place and look how he was stabbed in the back and called “racist.” Leave, Bill, and send a message of your own.
Posted by: Sheltiemom | June 19, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm