Dobson to Attack Obama Tuesday for Distorting the Bible, Having a “Fruitcake” Interpretation of the Constitution

It was just a matter of time before the religious right came out.
Ilook at Dobson and his ilk like I do any extrem arm of any religion, dangerous to society.

I am just thankful that we finally have a voice in the religious community speaking out against Obama. It is times like this that I miss Jerry Falwell to set America straight when it comes to politics.

They’re getting nervous about Obama’s outreach to evangelicals. This is strategic.

“It is times like this that I miss Jerry Falwell to set America straight when it comes to politics.”
Did I miss something? When did THAT ever happen? LOL

Dr. James Dobson had it correct when stating “Obama is the lowest common denominator of morality”. One must look at his long term associates: Bill Ayers, the terrorist, Tony Rezko, the criminal, Rev. Wright, the racist, hate mongering pastor, Larry Sinclair, drug user, plus others. Obama is certainly not the straight arrow he wants people to believe that he is. I do not consider Senator Obama Presidential material.

its good this guy is coming out he is exactly the kind of support that will help to ensure McCain loses because it is his radical views that elected super moral idiot we have in the white house now. except for the fact that he sold the American people out to big oil and a silly Iraq policy.

The Republicans must be VERY NERVOUS since Obama is really reaching out to evangelists for Dobson to attack Obama on how he interprets the Bible.
I have news for you Dobson. Different Christians interpret the Bible differently.

Everyone knows that the Bible and Constitution are interchangeable and that Dobson is the foremost authority on both.

I think we can forgive Obama for any fruitcake interpretations, Dobson has a fruitcake interpretation of all things Christian. Actually, so does Obama for that matter, they are a perfect pair.
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Obama, don’t waste our time vetting him — there is absolutely nothing there!
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I’m NOT an Obama supporter, even in the least, but there’s one thing I’ve learned over the years. An extremist is an extremist, and the word fundamentalist is interchangable term extremist.

I agree with Sen. Obama to a point I feel that we need to cross the denominational lines. BUT, the Word of God (the Bible) is suppose to be our standard of belief, and conduct IN ALL AREAS OF LIFE INCLUDING IN OUR VOTING. We need to vote based on our morals not money. Dr. Dobson is right and should be listen to. I complement Dr. Dobson for standing for what is Right. Thank you, Dr. Dobson for using your platform to speak the truth.
Abortion, gay rights… are not ok and should not be indorsed and Sen. Obama has plainly stated that he plans on supporting these groups. Which the Bible clearly condemns such behavior. Christ like ones (Christians) are supposed to
believe and follow whole Bible not just whatever part they decide.

I won’t judge all of Barack Obama’s religious views because I don’t know all of his religious views but in his statements printed in the article above he is absolutely right. I think fundamentalist James Dobson is “dragging Biblical understanding through the gutter.”

20-somethings with no moral compass at all, those are Obama’s biggest fans. They will even claim they belong to one denomination, just so they can bash another. Ask them if ANYTHING is evil, or wrong, and they can’t answer. Unless it’s something THEY don’t like – like the Police, or anyone who goes to Church, or laws that prohibit them from doing what they want to. THESE are Obama’s biggest fans.

>Americans know a fake christian when
>they see one.
ROFL!! What in pray tell is a “fake” Christian?! Someone that doesn’t believe in your interpretation of the bible?! OH MY GOD, you better look around because there are “fake” Christians everywhere! This is EXACTLY why I don’t follow organized religion…I believe and talk to God directly. Jesus Christ was the type of person that most Christians today would turn their noses up to. He was an average person that hung out with less than desirable people. Organized religion is full of hyprocrites!!

Obama has endorsed and supported rev. wright for 20 years. Obama should beg forgiveness, and retire to crime-ridden chigago.

McCain must be REALLY bad for right-wing nut Dobson to say that he won’t vote for him eventhough he is bashing Obama.
I LOVE the way that the Obama campaign is “turning the other cheek” in his response to Dobson’s bashing of him.
It seems that Obama is a BETTER Christian.

Dear God, please save us from James Dobson and George Bush, whose “understanding” of the Constitution have ruined our country.

Rational Voter,
Obama has NEVER said that he will repeal those laws.
Obama has stated several times that he is against Gay marriage but he is for civil unions.
He has said that marriage is between a man and a woman. Obama has said that it is up to the individual states to determine whether that state will accept gay marriage.

Although our religious beliefs guide us, there is a reason the founding fathers created a separation of Church and State.

I am not voting for Obama. Because he has No Accomplicments, No Qualifications,No Political Trophies, to PROVE he has any abilities. All he has given the voters is flowery talk and copies of Hillarys solutions, which he has incompleted as his own, & His ideas he has qiven are Flawed! Hw is Worse than Bush & Carter.

The Obama campaign has a PERFECT answer to Dobson’s bigotry!!

I call this a win for Obama. Being attacked by Dobson is like getting the good housekeeping seal for God fearing people. Dobson reminds me of the John Birch Society wackos. I look forward to hearing his constitutional revelations in the days to come.

I don’t know who he is and I don’t want to know who he is.

Mary: When others were stoning a women for her sins, Jesus Christ told them. If any of you are not sinners then cast the first stone! Christ was criticised for talking to, and working with people who had been known to be immoral according to the judgements people made in that time. Why do you think you are more HOLY than HE is? Being holier than thou will not get you into the Celestial Kingdom. Judge not that ye be not judged! Read the New Testament, it will enlighten you!

Dobson and Obama, both are a waste of time.

I agree, both Obama and Dobson, empty suits that are mentally unbalanced.

Last time I checked, Dr. Dobson never attended Seminary.

“Christ was criticised for talking to, and working with people who had been known to be immoral according to the judgements people made in that time.”
But colored women in headscarves can’t be in the same teevee shot with Brother Divine? (In fact, previously-un-”faithful” adult converts to this or that are FREQUENTLY kind of creepy — the Carla Fay syndrome — if you care to look at it that way.)

Obama became a “christian” just prior to entering politics. George Bush started going to church just prior to going into politics. Birds of a feather…

Sames: Okay, let me clarify something for you. I am an Obama supporter. But I’m concerned about the 2nd sentence in the following statements…1)Obama opposes a federal constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman. 2)He opposes the federal Defense of Marriage Act that prevents states from having to recognize same-sex marriages from other states. This is what he said he would repeal. I heard him with my own ears listening to him live, and I just read it again with my own eyes. Do a Google search for it, it’s out there. Now, for an uneducated person, that you claim that I am, I propose that you educate yourself before answering my post armed with partial information. I’m not trying to make him lose any votes. I really like Barack. I just believe in upholding the moral foundation of our country first and foremost. Now, may God Bless America, and goodnight.

“The above represent the ongoing mantra of the poorly educated, bible illiterate, civic government illiterates who continually spew their own hot air off the top of their soft thick heads. There is NO SUCH PROVISION in our Constitution. ”
Mary,
please do explain your interpretation of the establishment clause. What exactly do you think it is supposed to mean?

Dobson is just another one of those “fruitcake” Christian cult leaders making millions by fleecing his gullible flock. Just ignore his tripe.

there is no provision seperating church and state in any federal document. its not there. the following is what is there: Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion, or PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. thus, noone has the right to keep religeon out of the government or to establish any law preventing it to be freely practiced inside the capitol building or on the steps of the supreme court of the United States of America, or inside of a school building or your local drugstore, or in the commerce and trade and renting houses or in cutting someones hair.

there is no provision seperating church and state in any federal document. its not there. the following is what is there: Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion, or PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. thus, noone has the right to keep religeon out of the government or to establish any law preventing it to be freely practiced inside the capitol building or on the steps of the supreme court of the United States of America, or inside of a school building or your local drugstore, or in the commerce and trade and renting houses or in cutting someones hair.

God’s commandment: Love thy neighbor as thyself. Where is Dobson’s interpretation on this? His unChristian attack on anyone who does not practice his brand of hateful religion is absolutetely anti everything that Jesus in HIS preaching of love stood for.

Let’s see, a book written over centuries, the original manuscripts lost, translated and copied into twenty plus versions with with hundreds of omissions, changes and contradictions…
What’s not to question about such a book? Obviously, only one small group of Christians has all of the answers and the rest of us are illiterate losers.

Anybody who does read their bible would know that he doesn’t make any sense.
He has surely gone off the deep end.
I think Obama is living in a bubble where he has surrounded himself with only people who agree with anything he says and is not living in reality.
And what is this business about The Defense Department conducting business through the Sermon on the Mount teachings. This country does not apply laws according to religious teachings – only Islamic countries do that.
He needs medication.

God forbid that I ever try to defend Sen. Barack Obama, who I do consider to be a sort of “empty suit politician” – but “Dr.” James Dobson is a total nutjob. The guy needs to chill out and start a vegetable garden or take up fly fishing or something more constructive.

Oh puh-leeze. . .Daddy Dobson? The same right-wing loon who obsessed about Sponge Bob, the scary gays, and taking a bath with your male child to show off the assets? Who appointed him the official spokesmodel for God, anyway?
If there is one thing about the cabal of “religious” Right dominionists, it is their ability to reach into the pockets of innocent Americans and extract coins in exchange for a heavy dose of fear-and-smear fire and brimstone. One still wonders how the media mainstreamed these people and treat their every utterance with the reverence of some sort of American Vatican.

AMerica is not only a Christian nation. It was never meant to be only a Christian nation. John Adams said to Thomas Jefferson that in order for the republic to flourish there must be many religions. one would be like a monarchy, again, which they just fought to overthrow. Two would cause constant war (as waswith Catholic France and Prostestant England), no, said John adams, in order for this nation to flourish we must have many religions and many different peoples who all come together for the unifying purpose of living under a rule of common laws.

Will Obama cancel christian holidays like christmas and easter? Obama is one strange politician. He will loose the support of all christians.

Does the Divine One do loaves-and-fishes? Look, it’s food riots:
“Sunday morning, June 23, brought an increasingly common sight to the streets of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Scores of poor and indigent people lined up for free food vouchers outside the Marcia P. Coggs Human Services Center. But on this particular morning, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal, the crowd grew to such a number so quickly that authorities were called in to ‘restore order’ and cordon off an entire city street to make way.”

obama seems to be completely lost with no beliefs other than that he believes he needs to say whatever appeals to the most people, this is all a game to him. a “say the right words” game. its not about truth or his own convictions. its about power. its about “never mind what this country was ever about or what our ancesters fought to accomplish in this nation.” he wants change, he has better ideas than thomas jefferson, john adams, benjamin franklin, george washinton and the others who gave us enough reasons to be proud of this country for what it stood for alone. in a day of slavery, they all knew it would provide freedom for all in its good course, but each man would need to work hard for their continued freedom regardless of his color or race. work hard to prove his own human dignity before men and eliminate bias and prejudice by disarming his critics and working together for the good of a united nation. but barrock believes he has better ideas.

Oh Yeah:
Yes, I found an article which shows that Obama DID NOT agree with same sex marriage, in fact he referred to the situation with the Sermon on the Mount. The same one he finds radical.
Do a google search for: Obama ties same-sex issues to Sermon on the Mount.
My previous link was removed.

I heard on the news tonight, Obama will give $1,000 per single mother.
I did not hear the details about it.
How he will get all those money?
Maybe he just wants to get women’s votes

Frankly, I’m still trying to figure out why the AP, and in turn, ABC, thinks anyone cares what James Dobson has to say about anything. The conservative media constantly parades right-wing preachers in front of us as if they are the sole representatives of God – and generally ignore all of the other Christians in the country.
Instead of telling Dobson to focus on his own dam* family, our media panders to the craziest loons and their moneymaking schemes as holy messiahs.

Rational Voter,
I thank you for your kindness.
I actually had never bought a lottery but recently I tried. Who knows I could help to make big donation to her.

~How will obama get all the money? It’s vey simple. He taxes them and then he gives them a check later. Everyone will think he being generous, but the money he will give out was always theirs to begin with. Or for those who don’t work, that money will come from other hard working Americans who are being taxed to give $1,000 to someone else. Maybe he’ll use the Peter Pan method. Either way – it’s not generosity.~
you’re talking about the bush tax “rebates”, right? the one that we’ll get the bill for under the next administration.

Dear Sarah. . .thank goodness we have such amazing economic stewards in Republicans, who don’t mind offering public welfare to the wealthiest corporations when they drive themselves into skid row. Why, they don’t mind tax breaks for companies to stay in America, reasoning that we have to pay all those patriots running corporations to invest in America. And, of course, the GOP has no problem blaming the working class. . .why, no company would need taxpayer welfare or bailouts if the little people would live like a Third World population.
I think at this point Americans understand that Republicans love spending money – in Afghanistan, in Iraq, on new military toys. . .but they cannot stand spending a dime on Americans in America.

There is a growing concern amongst Christians that the nation is becoming hostile to Christianity. For example, you can’t have a nativity scene in a park unless you have a Christmas tree and a Menorah. You can’t have a voluntary prayer before a high school graduation or a football game — even a nondemoninational one. You can’t have a moment of silence every morning in the public school system to reflect on your personal beliefs. You can’t display Christian symbols on public property or on some privately owned commercial properties.
There is a growing tension between the establishment clause and the free exercise clause of the first amendment.
I didn’t think that would ever become an election issue. It’s usually the topic of obscure academic debates. But its the slippery slope that Obama is embarking on — for good or bad.

> merle carson <
Obama has no chance without Hillary's support. If he don't pay, he will loose. Obama is aware that Hillary has been looking into going independent, as Hillary had more votes in the primary. Hillary is still in control and the convention is not until August 26, D-Day.

Rational Voter–never assume that another won’t understand your arguments, regardless of their belief system. and you should never assume that you know anything about another persons spiritual beliefs based on their pragmatic understandings of a free and just society.
you do know what they say about the word “assume”?
on that note, i have to work tomorrow–summer school, you know. :)

Obama has never worked a day in his life. He was a lawyer in southside chicago, getting free federal/state/city money for the residents. Sounds like more of the same if he is elected…

I am voting for Randy Savage.
He believes in snapping into a slim jim and saying “Ooooo Yeeeah!”

sally, what youre saying is that obama is a slave to hillarys influence? i dont think so, she cant go independant, she herself will lose and crash the democrat candidate and lose the support of the democrat party forever. whoever told you she was considering it lied to you.

I don’t think Hillary received much support from the Democratic Party in the primaries. I am sure she will have an opponent in the Democratic primary for her Senate seat — and she will probably be treated the same way as Joe Lieberman. After all, he was forced to run as an Independent because he lost the support of the Democratic Party. Obama supporters still have a tendency to boo her at his events. How much could it really hurt her to run as an Independent?
Say Bob Barr gets 20% of the vote because Republicans don’t like McCain. Say John McCain gets 25% of the vote because he is the Republican nominee. Say Ralph Nader gets his usual 2% of the vote. All she would have to do is get the majority of Democratic votes to win. It would be difficult but it wouldn’t be impossible for her to thread the needle.

Organized religions are just superstitious cults who have managed to get a political foothold. Most of the people who buy into this junk have a below 100 IQ and are sheep who are easily sheared, sacrificed and/or slaughter just like their cloven hoof real life counterparts. Dobson and the rest of the clowns are just a bunch of Elmer Gantry frauds. But they are effective. How else can you explain GWB in the White House for 8 years (ignoring of course all the voting fraud).

Big deal, the small percentage of people who listen to Dobson most likely weren’t going to vote for Obama anyway; and isn’t Dobson a couple of years behind the times, attacking a 2006 speech now?
Obama’s thoughts of religion and positions on freedom of religion are way more in line with the majority of Americans than Dobson’s. Of course, by the definition of some people posting here I’m just some godless heretic living in a sinful city, so what do I know? ;)

oh, sorry, “that woman” refers to monica lewinsky. i meant hillary, not “that woman”

besmartvoteobama, wrong person, the comments are made by the names underneath, not above, i never knew ted haggard, never heard his name before the scandal, i do know james dobson, i read some of his books, he is extremely impressive and insightful. he loves everyone, he hates noone, it sounds like hes defending something dear to him that is under attack. can you understand that? i think most people in these forums dont think he has that right. they are the ones who are hateful and intolerant and ignorant.

I said it was possible for Hillary to thread the needle if McCain remained unpopular with Republicans. I said she had a slim chance of winning. That’s not a love affair with a candidate — its a recognition that every candidate for President this year is seriously flawed. If you had five candidates instead of two and two spoilers, the dynamic of the election would change. People would not be urged to vote for McCain to keep the Democrats out of office — so Barr would get the number of votes he would get if the Republicans weren’t worried about the Democrats. Nader would pull his usual share. There are more Democrats than Republicans so whoever gained the majority of the Democrats votes would likely be the President. It’s an improbable scenario but not an impossible one.

You can’t study the establishment clause without also studying the free exercise clause or you will only get half the picture — the jurisprudence is different.

Does God support shifting US combat troops from Iraq to Afghanistan? Does God support keeping noncombat troops in Kuwait in case the situation in Iraq implodes? Does God support sending US troops to Darfur? Does God support using US troops to distribute “humanitarian aid” in the Congo? I don’t know if God does — but I do know that Barack Obama does not plan on bring our troops home. No matter who our next president is, we will still be engaged in at least one ground war.

mike: No, evil has. Evil masquerades as religion and commits atrocities while doing so, however, people of God recognize it. Evil will cause you to believe that your battle is against the flesh. Evil will cause you to believe that there is no God, inspite of massive evidence. No my fellow blogger, it is not religion that commits murder, but evil doers posing as religious people.

do you know how many times i have heard that religion has brought more death and destruction than any other organization known to mankind? that says basically that satanism and christianity and bhuddism, and hinduism, and greek mythology and druidism and every bizzare belief that any man has ever had is basically the same…… except for atheism, which isnt responsible for any deaths. i wonder if joseph stalin believed that as well. you atheists are basically nutcases who are all blinder than bats in a belfry, sorry, but its true, you make things up and quote things that are incredibly stupid and wrong. you quote things that were misquoted by misquoted misquotes and swear by them as though they were fact. tell you what, anyone want to fill me in on the exact amendment to the constitution which seperates the church from the state???? any intelligent atheists out there accept the challenge? (hint) try googling it.

The dynamic of free exercise clause litigation is changing. I suspect that Justices Roberts and Alito will make the same kind of pea soup out of Free Exercise litigation that O’Connor made out of Establishment Clause litigation as soon as they get a good test case. From what is going on at the district court level, I think it will soon jump from Native American’s use of peyote to apparent hostility toward Christians.

When Dobson says “I think he’s deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview” he is really describing himself. Like most conservative cristians nothing gets Dobson excited like the thought of imposing his point of view on others. Idiot bible fools who pretend to know the mind of God. What hubris.

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).
Question: Which part did Dobson miss?

What?! Conflicting interpretations of scripture?! How could that possibly be, when Christ founded one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Chur-…oh, right…the Protestants.

If Obama is distorting the Bible then so are and have Pat Robertson, John Hagee, Ron Palsely, and a host of other ministers. It seems when America wants war or to justify gunning down their neighbor over an uncut tree or some silly act, beating their children(“spare the rod/spoil the child”) they quote from the Old Testament, “If thy right eye offends thee, pluck it out!” blah blah blah. Then when America wants to pretend it’s a compassionate, lovin’ nation it quotes from the New Testatment. These self-righteous bible thumpers can’t seem to make up their minds. I gave up on them and organized religion a long time ago. All these so called self righteous preachers are nothing but hypocrites. Any true “God” worth his “godliness” would have struck them all down and done away with them a long time ago.

I really think that we should continue the separation of church and state.
Different Christians interpret the Bible differently.

RationalVoter, you also give rational comments. I agree with what you’ve said.

Thanks Mr Dobson, you have convinced me that Obama really is the “moral candidate”.
I’ll take the Sermon on the Mount over so called “Christianity” as depiceted by a war loving preacher funded by Eric Prince and Blackwater any day.

As far as Hawaii state law, if the poster is in fact correct (which I somewhat doubt)that doesn’t determine citizenship. United States Law determines citizenship, as it does many other things, much as some backwards Republicans wish a few backwards states could dictate all the laws to the rest of us.

dobson—just another republican hit on head when young–looking for a minute in the spotlight—-simply turn him off.

It’s an honor to be attacked by Dobson, it means you’re on the right track. This man is about as malicious and religiously extreme as they come. He and ‘Focus on the Family’ (should be called ‘Focus on Dr. James Dobson,’ given his ego) are as close as this country has to a native version of the Taliban.
A win by Sen. Obama would really be a finger in these peoples’ eye, which would be fine with me…

Tell me who James Dobson is supporting this year and I will vote for the other person. His views are so repugnant to me. I am a Christian, but I can never see myself voting for anyone who Dobson favors. If we did not have anything to unite us behind Senator Obama, this statement by Dobson should be the catalyst.

Dobson calling someone else a fruitcake is the height of irony.

I am so sick of Barack Obama calling out Jesus on every mistake he made! Obama isn’t perfect, either – far from it!

I believe abortion is murder and abortion is wrong and should be illegal even though I am a Democrat. Abortion is the murder of an unborn child. How could someone murder a child? Please continue the ban on partial birth abortion.

I think the statement ” Jesus Christ would not vote for Mr Obama” is true.
Jesus Christ cannot vote for Mr Obama firstly because He is not of this world.
Secondly, Jesus Christ’s Christians should not VOTE for OBAMA since he supports ABORTION and Opposes a Constitutional Ban on Same Sex Marriages.
Mr Obama in HIS CAPACITY as a SENATOR is ready to tell his children: “hey no same sex marriage in my house” yet he is out to support a constitutional freedom for other parents kids to become Gays. What an IRONY for a CHRISTIAN.
Mr Obama, you are no Christian, you speak with your mouth that you are a CHRIST ( a citizen of Jesus Christ’s Republic) yet your ACTIONS SHOW YOU ARE NOT.
YOUR CASE IS IN THE BIBLE: prophesy with words but actions NOT.
Oh God in Heaven, Bless US the CHRISTIANS who wordwise and actionwise trust you in spirit and in Truth, AMEN.

A Christian and don’t support what Dobson teaches? (sanctity of life, there is right and wrong, families are good, death is bad, violence is bad, love is good, raise our children instead of turning them over to pop culture and Britney Spears . . .)
Hmmm. Can we agree that Christ quoted the old testament? If so then Christians should believe and live the Bible. (of course Christ was the end of the sacrifice and that part of the law) Can we even agree that you have to support and believe what Christ teaches to be a Christian or has it been changed to where you can believe what you want and just say you are a Christian? Sorry, you can’t follow the world and be a Christian. I could call myseld a hot air balloon, but I would fly and Ten thousand people calling a horse a dog won’t make it bark.
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Why does the media always refer to an “ATTACK” on Obama?

Another reason for Obama to come out to his supporters and whine about being attacked again.
He is always the victim.
I don’t totally agree with Dobson, but I do wonder what God thinks about some of the things going on in Obama’s church.

From what I can see – When Obama speaks he brings division – division between races, division with religion, people. They’ll be more division with him, just watch.
This man of unity is a man who chooses to ridicule and make accusations to pave a path for his agenda. He’s a snake.

Obama is correct.
Christians tend to treat the Bible as à la carte only choosing which verses they want to adhere to.
Most of the verses against homosexuality is in the Old Testament so Dobson obviously doesn’t believe the crap of the Old Testament/New Testament separation.
Don’t speak about morality. McCain isn’t a bastion morality and neither is Bush. If I had to align myself with either the associates of McCain, Bush or Obama… I’m going with Obama. At least it’s a better class of losers.

Once again, the literalist interpretation is assumed to be the only correct interpretation of the Bible. It is in fact a distortion. These people, such as Dobson, claim ‘the Bible only,’ but are really slaves to a historical tradition of inconsistant literal interpretation of the Bible. This fundamentalism has dominated evangelicanism for decades. It is a broken vessel. Things are changing. The teachings of Jesus continue to inspire and enrich well beyond the literalists. Evangelicanism itself may well expand beyond the literalists. Just look at the move among many evangelicals to embrace stewardship of the environment related to environmental concerns. Many evangelicals are motivated by faith as they work hard for peace and justice. People who apply the faith in these ways naturally move toward an appreciation and tolerance of others and leave behind the literalistic fundamentalism which has poisoned evangelicanism. Dobson and other fundamentalists are losing control and they are hopping mad about it.

What we are looking at here folks is some scary stuff, indeed. Let’s reflect: This is a member of the same group that helped mastermind the Bush elections in the name of family values without a second thought to how many families would be destroyed in their wake. This is a man who was also a member of a so-called advisory team to the president that has slowly crumbled as the truth about who these people really are has begun to tumble out. This is a man who millions of people turn to regarding matters of family and home and because he is willing to fight (verbally) for all those babies, to them, he is a saint. They will pay him handsomely to speak and keep speaking because they believe in what he is saying. Calling him names isn’t going to make him go away. Blaming his followers won’t either–the pro-life stance will always tug at the heart strings of people everywhere…what we should do is worry a little more that he hasn’t quieted down despite the failure of his team for the past 8 years–people are still listening to him and for that reason, I’m very, very afraid…

This is too delicious. So Dobson is saying that the New Testament is what should guide us, not the Old. I guess that means that gay marriage is cool now, given the fact that it’s only mentioned in the Old Testament. What a chump.

Why are people always so against fruitcake…..I personally really like fruitcake. I live in a free country were I can have my fruitcake and enjoy it too! Whether it is Obama or Dobson.
Isn’t it great that we live in a free country….Obama can say what he likes and I don’t have to agree with him….Dobson can say what he likes and I can agree with him if I want to…..or not. I can vote for whoever I wish…..Dobson is not running for President, but, I could write him in if I want to vote for him. No one ( at least not yet) will come looking for me and drag me away if I vote for what I believe in….if I vote for the person I believe in. It would be so great if people in this country could come together on some of these things that bother us and work for the good of all people instead of name calling back and forth…. this country was meant to work that way. I believe we are on the brink of another Civil War….will the Black man please stand up for the innocent ones who are not given human being inalienable rights to LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Obama, could it be that you were given those freedoms for such a time as this?

Dobson is an extremist within his tradition as Wright is within his tradition (Black Liberation Theology). Both have accumulated power and power can corrupt. Both have made outrageous statements which appeal to the haters among their respective followers. Both have been overtaken by hubris. Christians and Americans in general need to disassociate ourselves from such people.

I find it both interesting and amusing that Biblical literalists pick and choose which portions of the Bible are literal and which are not. In the classical training, I learned that the Bible and many other classical books were written in three to four layers: 1) the literal one, 2) the metaphorical one, 3) the moral one and 4) the anagogical one (ultimate spiritual or mystical sense).
The entire Bible is literal in the historical and sociological context as well as it is metaphorical, moral and mystical.
Obama is quite correct that the Sermon on the Mount is now understood as Jesus’ most powerful teaching of social justice and not as the altruistic fool who gives all of one’s possessions away and eagerly becomes a doormat or scapegoat to society.

SpaceCat wrote – “I guess that means that gay marriage is cool now, given the fact that it’s only mentioned in the Old Testament.”
Not so – homosexuality is condemned in the New Testament, in 1 Corinthians and in 1 Timothy. And Dobson is correct – the New Testament records the events of the fulfillment of the Old Testament. The teachings of the New Testament are what guide us now.

Obama should not fall into this debate with this man. What he should to is point out roman Chapter 14. We are not to judge each other on the basis of our faith and how we practice sich faith. it is a lesson that Dobson has forgotten. then he should end it neatly that we whould all pray for each other to have a better understand of gods teachings.

Rev. Dobson has forgotten the heart of our faith…love the Lord, and then thy neighbor as thyself. Scripture does not say just love other Christians, nor love those with whom we share the same faith or views. As much as we are able, we are to live in fellowship with others. That’s scripture. Obama is right. Dobson is wrong. Somehow Rev. Dobson has gotten so caught up in politics and his perceived power as a “Christian leader,” that he has strayed from Christ’s message. Love, mercy and respect for others is needed now more than ever. We don’t have to agree. Everyone has a free will to believe or not. All need to learn to be civil and respectful. And…if calling Obama a liberal Dobson means that he is someone who cares for the poor, who has mercy for those sufffering without healthcare, and he is respectful of others of other faiths…I thank God that he is. And, if Dobson truly read his Bible, he would emulate him. By the way…I am a Baptist Minister. Rev. Dobson doesn’t speak for me. The Lord does.

The Senator and the Reverend deserve each other. Both are politicians first. That Obama could spend 20 years in a church that spouted such hatred amazes me. Then to keep denying it. And then to finally apologize for it. At least with Dobson, you know what you are going to get. Obama is wishy washy. He is an expert in playing the victim. But then, remember that he is from Chicago. St. Peter must be in hysterics.

Those who say Barack Obama is heathen or not true Christian and should therefore not become president of America should propose an alternative that fits the description of a true Christian. Are Christians therefore going to abstain from voting because there is nobody who fits the description? Does Macain fulfil every description of Christian? Or in America the only description of a Christian is anyone who opposess gay marriages and abortion, all other things not withstanding? Even as we cast that stone against Obama, we who have answered the higher calling and are believers, do we pass the test of christianity as is? The bible is categorical that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God; pray tell me one christian who hasn’t. Rather than tear Obama into pieces, let us pray for the dear nation of America. Obama wasn’t there when gays and pro-abortionists started clamouring for their rights. These evils are a product of society and Obama’s support or opposition to it is of little consequence if Americans themselves don’t repent. These things are a product of evil and more blamed on the failure of church rather than failure of state. The church has not provided leadership on these issues. Instead they are torn right in the middle. Ordination of gay clergy is not a decision of state, but squarely rests on the church. The church should turn a torch on itself, repent and trust God for deliverance rather than ad hoc attacks on people who have no effective control of the evils in our society. Even when gay marriages are banned by the state, gay relationships still thrive. Are we just concerned about the legality of the evil or its existence and proliferation?
Church please find better reason not to support Obama. At best this Dobson thing is absurd.

Mr. Dobson is clearly the fruitcake. He is yet another example of an over the edge, right wing religious fanatic who can’t help but force his insane religious views and beliefs on others. Jokers like Dobson should be sent to communist China as missionaries.

Where was he when the Bush Administration propogated this facist war against all of ISLAM in the name of Jesus. Christians are known for their love not for who they can threaten and kill in his name. Jesus is a prophet to Islam…so in a sense they are simply unbaptized Christians required by Mohammed to beleive in him. Christians should concentrate on getting them baptised in his name not KILLED.That way the Holy Spirit can give them a new song and preserve their faith without the westernism that they TOTALLY HATE FOR GOOD REASON. At our rate Sodom with stand up with Gommorah and condemn us.
Rev Wright was right…Obama subconsciously knows our only hope is to CHANGE.

Jon Stewart said it best, Dobson is “just a hate filled guy who got lucky”.