Does This Mean No Vice President Clinton?

Clinton only chance for her to run for president in 2012 is for Obama to win. So Hillary may sabotage Obama run for the white house.

Obama is playing a game he can’t win without Hillary.

Another boneheaded mistake, pandering HRC supporters and deceiving devoted dems.

Why are there some many evil Obama hater’s in this country? Is it racism or sour grapes? I pray God will bring calm and kindness to you angry Obama bashers!

Who cares?
Sen Obama is under no obligation to chose Sen Clinton for anything. If he wants her as VP, great. If not, then he obviously has decided there is a better choice.
This election, contrary to what some believe, is not about Hillary Clinton and some misplaced notion of feminism.
It is supposed to be about chosing the best administration for the next four years. There are a number of people equally as qualified as Sen Clinton to hold the VP position.
Though I disagree with Tapper that we can draw any conclusions from Obama’s selection of Doyle for Chief of Staff.

Considering that the Clinton campaignb didn’t take off untill Penn was fired, I think Hillary got the wrong fall guy.
Doyle would appeal to both women and the Hispanic vote.
I have no idea of what the obama campaign is thinking about the VP.

I can’t wait for Obama’s defeat…

Cardgal: looks like you will be waiting about 8 years!
obama 08!

it all depends if the reports of her not talking to clinton anymore are true.
which would be stupid on clinton’s part because it was Penn and Bill’s plan and pushing the direction of her early campaign that screwed them up …PSD was on the right side of the argument…so to be mad at the person they fired but was right seems dumb…and I don’t think Hillary is dumb
if they aren’t talking I agree with your assesment Jake
if they are it would be the opposite.

“Why are there some many evil Obama hater’s in this country?”
Because they hate evil Obama.

As a obama supporter! Say what you want about Hillary, but she has done alot for this country.

To all who hate obama! too bad, so sad!
obama 08!

hillary isn’t so bad, that is just as obama saying hillary you are likable enough.
the good sen. clinton has done for this country does not need to be made acceptable by the new obama supporters.
sen. clinton good works legacy is set.
and she does not need nor do i believe she wants to be vp,

Justsying: maybe you should just stop hating and just start participating!
obama 08!

Once again, utter stupidity. Should the selected running mate not have the opportunity to select his or her own staff, unencumbered by the need to find a place for this trophy hire?
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No! The Nominee selects the campaign staff. Obama is running for President not his VP choice. Clearly anything negative from the VP would affect the campaign.

The mistake a lot of you disgruntled hillary supporters, and republicans pretending to be disgruntled hillary supporters are making is that most hillary supporters were never voting against obama but voting for hillary..
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Amen to that! I chose to vote for Obama. He was my choice. I didn’t vote against Hillary. I just voted for the one whom I thought was electable.

He half admits it, but using code words like “historic” doesn’t change the fact it is pure 100% RACISM. And I forgot he was the guy who was paid to be a shill by the White House

The VP will be OSAMA. They want to control the world.

Justsaying your tring to make it sound as if black people only voted for him becusae he is black. If thats the case, then i will look forward to Bob Barr recieving his majority black vote as well. in addition, Bill recieved a large number of the black vote so if i use your way of thinking then hillary supporter in WV and ky could not help themselves.
it was all about race for them?

I believe the whole VP vetting is Obama’s smoke screen. The real purpose is to avoid Hillary from becoming the VP candidate. He already knew whom he is going to pick. I am sure that person will not be Hillary.
I think all these game playing is insulting to Hillary and her supporters. What a politics Obama is bringing to Washington!

The way I see it Clinton probably won’t be on the ticket..I think you are reading in to this too much… Also aren’t most conservatives racists? I mean look at Limbaugh or this armstrong guy.

Kerry, you do not follow directions well do you?

I think all these game playing is insulting to Hillary and her supporters. What a politics Obama is bringing to Washington!
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Here is the thing: it isn’t about Hillary. It is about Obama, for him to worry about Hillary is absurd. She is not going to be the nomineee.

Let’s hope it means just that: Hillary back to the Senate.

Do you really think Obama gives a personal damn about Clinton or her supporters?
Posted by: Just Curious
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He had better start giving a damn if he wants our votes.

@J
I think you already told us your not voting for Obama.

I think all these game playing is insulting to Hillary and her supporters.
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Give me a break. What isn’t “insulting” to HRC supporters? They seem to find “hidden insults” in everything he does.
Lately it sounds like “Oh, did you see his tie with the red stripe? Well, that an insult to Hillary, because, one time, she wore a red pantsuit, so he is just trying to diss her”, LOL!

Obama’s success is because Pelosi did not want to share power with another woman and pulled the super-deligates string to make sure it didn’t happen. Obama is Nancy’s pimp and the people he’s surrounding himself shows that he’s Washington’s ‘business as usual’ candidate. Pelosi’s dream candidate who she can manipulate with ease.

Obama is not anti woman but he is anti Clinton when it comes to her being VP. Welcome aboard Patti Solis Doyle and thank you for your loyality to the Democratic Party and Women all over America. Wake up ladies this is one woman who really cares about you and Womens Rights, and she would have never joined forces with somone who did not want to do the same. I love you ladies but I would never want a Hillary Clinton to be seen as a role modle to my two daughters our my son. America would love to have a woman President, but it won’t be Hillary Clinton. The funny thing about this whole thing is that I always thought women where the voice of reason, well atleast my wife is! JUST A JOKE! LOL Ladies us guys no we could not function if it wasn’t for you and I truely mean that! but Hillary turned out to be just as nasty and deviceive as her male counter parts and that is why she lost. America wanted change! SUCH AS NO MORE WAR! NO MORE STRUGGLING TO PAY BILLS THATS WHAT WE WANT AND ALL HILLARY DID WAS PROVE THAT SHE CAN BE A DIRTY POLITICIAN JUST LIKE THE GUYS, AND AGAIN THATS WHY SHE LOST. If she would have focused on the issues and not allowed the media and the folks around her to tell her she had to be tough like a man then she would have won. Also maybe keeping her big mouth husband Bill Clinton quite would have helped, we now see where the tough guy mentality got her. I’m a father and it always pissed me off when my daughters softball coach would say you play like a girl and you need to toughen up and play like a boy. I thought that was the most disrespectful thing he and some time she could ever say to a female. My daughter is a female and should be respected as such, I dont think people understand somtime that the message that is sent to are daughters is that if you want to be great you must play like a boy and that mind set is silly. I always tell my girls if someone tells you that you play like a girl, you say proudly that you are a girl. I have to tell you being knew to the girls softball game there are so very tough girls and my daughter is one of them. Obama was not running to be the so called tough guy as a matter a fact he was getting made fun of because people thought he acted to soft but he didn’t listen to the media or anyone else and thats why he won. Obama was not confussed on who he was but if you remember Hillary was someone else weak to weak. (REMBER!) Also If Obama is more of the same old nasty politics then he shore did’nt show it much but Hillary wore it right on her sleeve 24/7 and that spelled doom for her as a candidate. The women that keep threating that they are gonna vote McSame! why? cause your mad? Come on! if you do that you will only set back women, and that includes my two daughters. Hillary lost fair and square in the politicle world. Nothing is ever fair in politics and we all know that, we’ve seen sexism and raceism directed at both of them and we all act like that is somthing knew. What if Obama was screaming out of his mouth that everyone is picking on me because I’m black he would been out of this race in a heart beat and you know it but Hillary was screaming sexism out of her very own mouth was seen as a victim. Lets all be adults and keep fighting for what is right for your daughters and sons but you should not blast Obama because Hillary Clinton lossed. ITS POLITICS AND THEY BOTH ARE POLITICIANS!

Explain the fact that our only choice for president has been white men. Now in 2008 we get a female & black man. Here comes problems.
Why is it racist. We have never had a black man to vote that was worthy and capable of being president. Yes, I think Obama is intelligent enough to run the world just like any white man.
We had 2 choices that has never been seen in the USA. It is time for change. And the bible says those on top will someday be on the bottom. And those on the bottom will someday be on top. Think about it for yourself.

justsaying said:
but obama will NEVER win the white house with just blacks.
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Of course he can’t, but he will with all us whites who do support him.
Every single Clinton supporter I know has moved to Obama without so much as a blink. We want a Dem in the White House. I come from a family with tons of women, not one would ever think of voting McCain.

justsaying wrote:
lets not get into the obama won fair and square, if you call fair and square
with all of the bigwig of the dem. party helping him, and the media bias,
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And 18 million voting Americans, but you guys always seem to leave that little nugget out.
Amazing……….

justsaying:
Considering that Senator Clinton and Senator Obama have the same position on 99.5% of the issues, how is Senator Obama a representative of the “extreme left wing” of the party? Clearly if that “extreme left wing” wanted to nominate a candidate that most represents their values, it would have been Kucinich (or even Edwards, based on his rhetoric) WAY before Obama.
Just admit it… you just don’t like the fact that he’s black, and that your candidate failed to beat him.

Obama: “ugh, present”.

see there it is again.
justsayingsomethingintell.
his color had nothing to do with it.
and why we are still talking about this history i don’t know
it was not his color at all.
it was everything else about him-that made my mind up he is not up to the job of being president.
not being about to talk with out a speech, without messing up.
his inability to answer questions off the cuff, which tell me he does not have a good and deep understanding of the subject.
there are a whole lot of reason i can list as to why obama was and is not my choice. and his color is not on the list.
It seems only black people need to bring color into this. and obama does not want this.
this election would have been a lot better if the voters had been fair and balanced. but when you saw the black people voting 90percent for obama-it tell you for them it was all about race.
especially knowing the good record and work the clinton have done with black people.
so intelligent.
long list of reasons for me-color was not it.

I really enjoy reading all this.
Democrats will find a way to lose each and everytime.
You deserve to lose.
What a bunch of sore losers, crybabies and “chicken little the sky is falling” morons.
P.S. Thanks in advance for making my taxcut permenant.

Posted by: justsaying
Ditto, some of the reasons I won’t vote for him.

Posted by: McCain ’08 |
Being a lifelong democrat you are right. They continue to pick losers.

Hillary started to do well after this Ms. Doyle left her campaign. I blame Doyle & Penn for the poor strategy in the start of Hillary’s campaign. Ms. Doyle used to send such G-d awful long emails that anyone with a life could not possibly devote enough time to try and read through – and they were cheesey and boring. What is Obama going to do with her???? Bad choice.

Posted by: jmc663 |
There is also a margin of error of just about 4.0%, so he’s not ahead.

Posted by: this election counts
Waiting for the other shoe to drop so she can be nominated at the convention…lol

The truth is that Obama doesn’t need Hillary to win in November. Right now with all the sour grapes supporting McCain, Obama is still ahead of McCain in every National Poll, and has great chances of defeating the GOP. Obama has the best set of policies being offered, John McCain means more of the same. Obama should ignore Hillary’s supporters, that way he could focus more on real issues, like McCain’s health care options against Obama’s health care options, views on war, tax cuts for middle class, energy, EDUCATION (too many dumb people in our country), and decency.
Obama/Webb 2008/2012

Here we go again, America is not racist or sexist but we only refer to the candidates race or sex! Young people step up and claim your future because we older people are still living in the past.PEOPLE VOTE ON THE ISSUES AND ISSUES ONLY!!!!

Good, this means he will not ask Hillary to be VP praise the lord. I do not want her going down with that sinking ship. I do not want her anywhere near that administration, they will try to blame her for everything. This is good. Let him sink on his own Hillary.

mini me,
there is no disputing obama and his views are the most liberal.
obama is to the left of sen. clinton-in the way in which they would execute their plans.
go read up some more on obama.
it may be that we cannot be sure of where obama is, because of his short politcal record.
it is not saying much when all you can say about your candidate on his views are he is close to sen. clinton.
well we know where sen. clinton stands, so that tells us about her.
but saying that in his defense really tells us nothing about him.
maybe it would be better to ask-were does obama differ from sen. clinton.
because to keep saying he is close to sen. clinton-does not define him.

J 3:12:14,
And…no lobbyist..no lobbyist..
He said it repeatly and loudly.

roncraw “no votes in florida or michigan were suppose to count”
according to the rules committee that was headed by team clinton…
so from zero votes to half votes is pretty good considering.
Remember that all the agreements reached by both candidates and the RBC were proposals arranged by
THE STATES themselves…
so… i dont see how you can say someoen or someone wasnt trying to block your vote… it obviously was a mess but not one where you can simply lay at the feet of one candidate or the other.
if you voted for clinton because you agreed with her policies i think that if you look at obama you will realize your values and yoru rights and the things that made you support clinton are all there.
Mccain is simply a 180 degree turn from clinton and obama

Get Over It
Where are you from? Where I live in PA NOT ONE PERSON that supported Hillary says they are voting for Obama! I have yet to even meet an Obama supporter. I guess it all depends what area of the country you come from. I’m personally glad I live in PA because there is no way I could vote for Obama!

bhrandon The Repb Gov of Fla and the Gov of Mich. both called for a revote,the Gov of N.J. said he would get funding.Hillary never stopped calling for a revote.You don’t have to get hit on the head with a 2×4 to figure out who nixed the revote.

Posted by: Grandmare
I am from PA also and ex Hillary supporters I have talked to will not vote for him.

Obama is not anti woman but he is anti Clinton when it comes to her being VP. Welcome aboard Patti Solis Doyle and thank you for your loyality to the Democratic Party and Women all over America. Wake up ladies this is one woman who really cares about you and Womens Rights, and she would have never joined forces with Obama if he did not want to do the same. I love you ladies but I would never want a Hillary Clinton to be seen as a role modle to my two daughters our my son. America would love to have a woman President, but it won’t be Hillary Clinton. The funny thing about this whole thing is that I always thought women where the voice of reason, well atleast my wife is! JUST A JOKE! LOL Ladies us guys know we could not function if it wasn’t for you and I truely mean that! but Hillary turned out to be just as nasty and deviceive as her male counter parts and that is why she lost. America wanted change! SUCH AS NO MORE WAR! NO MORE STRUGGLING TO PAY BILLS THATS WHAT WE WANTED AND ALL HILLARY DID WAS PROVE THAT SHE COULD BE AS DIRTY OF A POLITICIAN JUST LIKE THE GUYS, AND AGAIN THATS WHY SHE LOST. If she would have focused on the issues and not allowed the media and the folks around her to tell her she had to be tough like a man then she would have won. Also maybe keeping her big mouth husband Bill Clinton quite would have helped, we now see where the tough guy mentality got her. I’m a father and it always pissed me off when my daughters softball coach would say you play like a girl and you need to toughen up and play like a boy. I thought that was the most disrespectful thing he and some times it was a she could ever say to a female. My daughter is a female and should be respected as such, I dont think people understand somtime that the message that is sent to are daughters is that if you want to be great you must play like a boy and that mind set is silly. I always tell my girls if someone tells you that you play like a girl, you say proudly that you are a girl. I have to tell you being knew to the girls softball game there are some very tough girls that would dust some of these so called tough boys not because they play like boys but because they play like girls. and my daughter is one of them girls who happens to be a pitcher would mop the floor with a lot of these guys. Obama was not running to be the so called tough guy as a matter a fact he was getting made fun of because people thought he acted to soft but he didn’t listen to the media or anyone else and thats why he won. Obama was not confussed on who he was but if you remember Hillary was someone else weak to weak. (REMBER!) Also If Obama is more of the same old nasty politics then he shore didn’t show it much but Hillary wore it right on her sleeve 24/7 and that spelled doom for her as a candidate. The women that keep threating that they are gonna vote McSame! why? cause your mad? Come on! if you do that you will only set back women, and that includes my two daughters. Lots stop this pay back attitude because it will only cause other people to feel that they too will have to pay someone back and we all lose. Hillary lost fair and square in the politicle world. Nothing is ever fair in politics and we all know that, we’ve seen sexism and raceism directed at both of Hillary and Obama and we all act like that is somthing knew. What if Obama was screaming out of his mouth that everyone is picking on me because I’m black he would been out of this race in a heart beat and you know it but Hillary was screaming sexism out of her very own mouth and was seen as a victim. I’m a black/white man my wife is white/german and my kids are of course mixed, we don’t raise victoms, life is sometimes not fair but we raise our kids to lead by example and treat others as they would want to be treated and to just be themselves, that’s what we all should aspire too. Lets all be adults and keep fighting for what is right for your daughters and sons but you should not punish Obama because Hillary Clinton lossed. IN THE REAL WORLD PEOPLE WE ALL SHOULD BE EQUAL NOT MATTER YOUR RACE OR GENDER BUT THE FIGHT IS STILL GOING ON WHY? WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER, WE ALL ARE AMERICANS. You all have to never lose sight that this whole thing with HILLARY AND OBAMA, ITS POLITICS AND BOTH HILLARY AND BARACK ARE POLITICIANS! We the regular people out here in America are not politicians and should be treating eachother much better then we do. Obama08/16

bhrandon The Repb Gov of Fla and the Gov of Mich. both called for a revote,the Gov of N.J. said he would get funding.Hillary never stopped calling for a revote.You don’t have to get hit on the head with a 2×4 to figure out who nixed the revote.
Posted by: roncraw | Jun 16, 2008 4:27:32 PM
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I am from MI and can tell you the MI Gove Jennifer Granholm NEVER called for a revote. The idea was proposed, but MI is broke and could not afford to pay for it. Clintons Uber-Rich supporters offered to pay for it, but privately funded elections in MI are against the law.
Where do you people get your “information” from?

“I KNOW THIS ABOUT OBAMA ‘HE DID NOT SUPPORT THE IRAQ WAR’”
Only when he was an Illinois state senator, in which capacity it was all campaign talk.
As a U.S. Senator, Obama’s voted to fund every murderous minute of it, said he would’ve voted to support it if he’d been in the U.S. Senate, and paid lip service to every soldier-cult talk-op to come down the pike, including the recent groveling to AIPAC — and the reiteration of adoration for Bush I, who STARTED it.

twb0392 wrote:
McCain Victory = More Right Wing Supreme Court, Goodbye Right to Choose.
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Actually there are about 4 more judges that are ready for the rocking chair. I don’t think we’ll ever lose our right to choose, but a conservative court will make for hostile relations. Worst case, I think, that it’ll be reversed to a state’s decision.

RW wrote:
any of us that voted in the early days of the primary witnessed first hand the result of bad management.
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Hillary’s campaign was also poorly managed AFTER Solis left.

Hillary’s campaign was also poorly managed AFTER Solis left.
Posted by: Cooley
Baloney. It got better after her and Penn left.

>>bhrandon | Jun 16, 2008 4:14:36 PM:
The first six years in the Illinois senate B O did ZIP….. aside from a lot of pork-bellying.
Oh and he DID find time in between to write those two semi-autobiographical novels of his….
In his seventh year,Obama was taken under the wing of Emil Jones who had decided to make himself a senator and who therefore borrowed a ton of legislative papers worked on and struggled over by other legislators to give to B O to use in his name and further his political progress which had been relatively stagnant til then.
And since, he’s been in the US Senate, he’s been away so much it seems he’s only in attendance when he says “present”!
So no one is putting Obama down because of the length of his service….
It’s his experience and resume rather than his tenure that’s so
t h i n!
As for Clinton, she would be wasted up picking up after his gaffes and boneheaded mistakes.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

Orlando B from…
I agree with JGaw.
Hillary has been working hard for womens rights since she was in the WH.
She even tried to work on human rights in China.
She works for womens against breast cancer also.
So,,,if you would like to complain about somebody, get the real information first.

J so then you do support mccain going and asking for an endorsement from hagee? Do you agree with all that hagees said? I am sure a lot of people would disagree with the church you attend.
When you voted for Hillary (if you voted for hillary) were you aware that the Clintons asked Rev Wright to come into the white house to meet with them?
If church is the only thing you are thinking about in your vote, then I don’t know what to tell you, if you are wanting a better economy, are worried about the environment, and no longer want to continue a war that we had no right being in and allowing more and more young kids to die and families to be destroyed? If youd like to see the united states repair its world standing and would like to see the US become a leader in the world instead of a over played super power that is hated, or if youd simply like to see companies have incentives to keep jobs here then Obamas your man,
If youd like the opposite of everything I said above… please vote for mccain
Oh and I hope you are in the top 2% of America to get those tax breaks!

Is $30 million better? BTW, I not here to bash, just saying I disagree with her campaign management. My only issues are with Bill.
Posted by: Cooley
What issues? That his words were twisted to suit Obama? Seems Obama has a record of doing that. There were mistakes made, I agree. If your competitor is outspending you 3:1 what would you do?
Don’t try and tell me that Obama’s money was all from regular people, it wasn’t.

Roncraw
Actually you need to go do some research on why those revotes never took place.
/protip
Instead of looking at rightwing internet sites for your propaganda youll do some real research and youll find that the revote was not the cause of any candidate, there was no way everyone could agree on how to implement a revote, the states themselves explained this at the DNC or RBC meeting during the florida Michigan debacle.
Im guessing you didn’t watch that meeting at all. I watched every last second of it, and it was very informative. The states were happy with the way things turned out… the only one who isn’t happy is hillary whos team it was to impose these regulations on THOSE states anyway….
So once again here we are… round and round we go

jm6
and it seem a democratic, and black sport also?
are the clinton really than bad?
for instance, why is it
bill clinton helped historically black colleges and universities with fundraising-to help keep the doors open
and all people can see is monica.
bill clinton helped get aids meds to africa, and other third world countries as well as inner city neighborhoods in the us.
and all people can see is monica.
the clinton’ are human beings also.
and if the records could be shown right now. for all of the people who hate the clintons
and all they can see is monica and that other stuff.
put their record of helping this country and others up against who you have helped (me included) there is no comparison.
i believe, hope and pray, they more the clinton hatere hate, the more good the clinton’ will do for this world while they are still here and able to.
so keep on hating the clinton’
i don’t believe sen. clinton wants to be anywhere near the white house with michelle and barack there.
sen. clinton will do more good in the pvt. sector than michelle will do in the wh.
no matter how much you hate them.
as long as the clinton’ want to be.
the clintons will be current in any market.

Well, there goes the White House, 2008.
Hilly, get ready for 2012 …. because this is really going to a mess, by then.
God help us all!

Here’s a small example how Obama won. Hillary won N.J. got 10 Del, Obama won Idaho he got 13 Del.Hillary won Texas Obama got more Del Democracy in action.

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. Patty Solis Doyle, sister of Chicago’s 25th Ward Alderman Danny Solis, is a product of the same corrupt Chicago/Crook County Democratic machine that spawned Barack Obama, and whose behind-the-scenes puppet master is King Richard Daley II. Danny Solis is one of his most loyal rubber-stampers in the Politburo that we call our City Council, and nothing here happens politically w/o Daley’s OK.
If you knew just how dirty politics is in ILLinois, which is not so much a state as it is a racket, you would puke. Both major parties here are morally and ethically bankrupt.

hey clintonlovers—remember nafta—how about china trade agreements—-how about impeachment—-how about 30 years of scandals–how about jennifer flowers–how about monica—how about three or four more..—-how about chinese comunists sleeping in lincolns bed for a fee—-perhaps a million or more for trade agreement?????—-what world do you live in——balanced budget was started by regan—-some people do love scumbags.–even after all your jobs are gone.

>>>>>>>>>>american 10 :
“… WHEN YOUR BUDDY HRC SAID GO GET THEM BUSH..”
THE BOTTOM LINE… is that Hillary’s state had suffered more than any other because of 9/11 and N O O N E was given the truth!
Based on the information emanating from the white house at that time, HOW COULD SHE NOT HAVE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE WAR?
It’s easy to say whatever you want when you have responsibility only to yourself for what’s occurring….. as in the case of B O.
It’s another thing entirely when the whole country is depending on the Congress, and the Congress is dependent upon our President…. who turned out to be a liar!
How can you blame ANY of our statesmen who voted for the war based on the information fed to them by Bush?

WHAT ABOUT McCAIN.
HE STATED THAT HE CONSIDERED “SUICIDE”, DURING HIS CAPTURE..
WHEN TIMES GET BAD AND HE HAS TO MAKE A DECISION WILL HE “CONSIDER SUICIDE”, WHEN WE NEED A LEADER..
YES WE CAN

bhrandon: the states were not happy with the May 31 descision. That’s why Obama had since promised to fully restore their votes. In fact, he said he would do that to “make them happy.” Look it up. Obama didn’t care about any rules, he just wanted to steal votes. Wexler argued for him on May 31st to only count half, now that Obama had the nomination, he is willing to give them full votes in Denver. Like I said, look it up and ypueill see what a hypocrtical pig Obama is. You’re candidate IS GWB jr. I hope you are embarrassed, you should be.

questioner
THE QUESTION OF VOTING FOR THE WAR,,
THIS IS A JUDGEMENT CALL THAT ONLY LEADERS THAT LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE SHOULD MAKE WHEN IT COMES TO SENDING AMERICAN CITIZENS OFF TO WAR, TO DIE FOR COUNTRY..
Here Bush was giving an open slate to fight anyone he wanted.. Obama saw this and objected..
Hillary did not for ‘POLITICAL’ reasons of the state of NY.
Doing what right, should not be a decision of what is ‘POPULAR’.
MAKE SURE YOU TELL YOU CHLIDREN THAT, OR SOME CHILD YOU LOVE.
YES WE CAN
GOOD JUDGEMENT COMES FROM GOOD PEOPLE

just because it’s obvious Obama is a lazy, lying, theiving thug, it doesn’t makes those of us who notice, racists.

American10
“Here Bush was giving an open slate to fight anyone he wanted.. Obama saw this and objected..”
He wasn’t in the Senate at the time so how could he have known how he would have voted?????

“had to vote for or against this bloody war.
I think that would have been a very difficult decision.”
What was put to them wasn’t EVEN “for or against this bloody war” (in which none of our august statesmen has required so much as a Band-Aid).
A smart CHILD could have shut it down right there, but noooo. Bush was GOING to war, and only ONE Rep — Barbara Lee — had the stuff to cross the neo-cons, who were riding high.
It was a re-run of the Tonkin Gulf resolution, and they went for it AGAIN.
PLUS the Patriot Act.

toomuchfun: I stand by my comments. They are ugly because Obama is ugly. Now why don’t you Try to deny my point about Obama promising to fully restore mich & fla votes because he is slimy. You can’t. You KNOW he is a hypocrite hiding behind the sanctity of ‘rules’

Obama chose to spend most of his adult life with people that have a common theme.
They are angry people that either hate America or have a problem with whites.
Michelle–America is mean
Wright/Trinity–GD America
Pleger–Obama’s “moral compass” says America is a sin
Ayers–terrorist that stomps the flag
When America wakes up to the real Obama
I hope Hillary is far away from the backlash.

The Repbs hate the Clintons because Bill Clinton denied H.W Bish his second term.They still can’t get over it.

cindy
going to burn a few crosses tonight

Obama says: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Finally we see the thug he was all along. There’s nobody packing a knife to this party but Obama.
If Obama is to win this, he has to deliver on at least one of the three Obama promises change, bridging the divide and hope.
Clinton for VP will at least show he tries to stop being the divisive idiot he has been so far.

cindy
going to burn a few crosses tonight
Posted by: rodney | Jun 16, 2008 6:04:13 PM
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Be nice to Cindy in nc, her trailer was repoed last week, LOL!

>>>American10 | Jun 16, 2008 5:38:24 PM
How COULD I have forgotten?
BO is the Messiah.
Messiahs are empowered with prophetic foresight!
Hillary, on the other hand was just a normal sighted woman who had seen enough of her wounded, bloodied state to want to sit back and do nothing…
and when her President told her the culprits were in Iraq, despite niggling doubts which might have bothered her, she had no reason at that time to think he would be lying about something so tragic!
Wow, with Obama, we can give up G-D!

Here’s how Obama is bringing the party together. He just changed 6 Fla Del Hillary supporters with 6 Obama delegates.He must have forgot Hillary won Fla.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU “questioner”
NO MATTER WHAT THE TRAGEDY YOU MAY FACE IN LIFE..MAKING THE BEST CHOICE IS ONE THAT YOU MUST LIVE WITH ALL YOUR LIFE..
MAKING A CHOICE WITH NOT ALL THE FACTS IS NOTHING MORE THAT POLITICAL PROMISES.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS NOT HER DAUGTHER THAT WAS GOING TO DO THE FIGHTING..
BIN LAUDEN STATED “I HAVE ATTACK AMERICA”.. NOT IRAQ..
BIN LAUDEN WAS REPORTED IN AFGAN..NOT IRAQ
SO WHY 180,000 TROUPS IN IRAQ AND 30,000 IN AFGAN..
0IL INTEREST IS THE ANSWER..
ONE OF THE LARGEST SALT DOMES EXIST IN IRAQ AND POSSIBLE THE LARGEST OIL SUPPLY IN THE WORLD..
THAT WAS THE BUSH LEGACY..
OIL BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY AND PROFITS TO THE OIL TYCOONS.
DON’T BE BLINDSIDED BY THE B.S. WAS OBAMA’S STANCE.
IT WAS CLEAR..
HRC CHOICE WAS A POLITICAL ONE, NOT A SMART ONE..
YES WE CAN

rodney
TELL IT TO THE PEOPLE IN IOWA, TELL IT TO THE PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS, TELL IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KEEP THE BALANCE OF NATURE (WATCHING LAKES APPEAR IN THE NORTH POLE)..
TELL IT TO YOUR NEXT GENERATION WHEN THEY CAN’T BREATHE THE AIR IN THE FUTURE.
THE SKY IS NOT FALLING, WE ARE DRAGING IT DOWN..
WEATHER CHANNEL WILL TELL YOU “AIR QUALITY..
DID YOU KNOW DURING 911, WHEN ALL JETS BUT ONE WAS FLYING IN AMREICA AIRSPACE (THAT ONE HAD BIN LAUDEN FAMILY ABOARD, GRANTED BY BUSH), THE AIR QUAULITY IMPROVED BY 1.5 PERCENT.
YOU THINK THAT IS SMALL
I DON’T.

Al Gore endorsed Barack Obama today.
OK all you haters. Tell us how much you NOW despise Al Gore…………
Posted by: Katie from Kentucky |
He could have done the BEFORE the primaries ended. Now it doesn’t make a difference because he more or less has to back the democratic nominee.

Calling people racist won’t silence those of us rational enough to see the truth about Obama’s judgement and character.
If Obama becomes president will Americans be punished for speaking out against him? Democracy or dictatorship?

Like we give a damn that Al Bore supports Obama. No Kidding, who else would he be endorsing? Still, I am more convinced than ever Al Bore is another usless elitist, idiot.

Katie: Can you please address the granting of full votes in mich & fla? Hmmm? How does that work with Obama’s argument on May 31st? Please enlighten us all with your wisdom.

INSTEAD, HE SENT 30,000 TO AFGAN AND 180,000 TO IRAQ
JUDGEMENT IS IMPORTANT

Clinton spokesperson
Patti will be an asset and good addition to the Obama campaign. After nearly two decades in political life, she brings with her the ability to tap an extensive network that will be a huge asset to Senator Obama. As Senator Clinton has said, we’re all going to do our part to help elect Senator Obama as the next President of the United States,” said spokesman Mo Elleithee.

“He is
the Democratic nominee.
And he will be elected POTUS
in November.”
No he isn’t, and no he won’t.

American10,
“I KNOW THIS ABOUT OBAMA “HE DID NOT SUPPORT THE IRAQ WAR”,
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When Obama opposed it…it didn’t matter. He was a STATE senator, not a US senator. Big difference.

Yep, Gore got pretty screwed by the Clintons. Saw Meet the Press clips over the weekend of him defending Whitewater, Lewinsky, Hillary’s healthcare snub. No wonder Al and Tipper no longer speak to the Clintons – don’t you think they would’ve stepped for Hillary from the get go?

If you guys would THINK in a logical manner, you would see that Obama is the BEST CHANCE WE HAVE of recovering OUR DIGNITY as a country, OUR ECONOMIC STABILITY (although it will take a while to clean up the MESSES G. Bush made), and our sense of peace and SECURITY. I am in awe of how many people actually believe that they are INTELLIGENT when they downgrade our best chance for a better country. You LIKE the way things are now? You LIKE the changes G. Bush made? Yikes! Criminy Cricket, keep on blah-blah-blahing as you pay nearly $5.00 a gallon for gas and keep seeing our people getting killed overseas for NOTHING.

“keep on blah-blah-blahing as you pay nearly $5.00 a gallon for gas and keep seeing our people getting killed overseas for NOTHING.”
The One says he’s okay with the price of gas going up.
And his groveling to AIPAC, and voting for every Iraq funding bill, and back-pedalling on his supposed anti-war views, suggests he’s okay with the U.S. continuing to pay for perma-war in the mideast.

The fact is, Patty Solis Doyle was ready to leave the campaign and on good relations with Hillary. It’s the media that tried to turn it into some sort of soap opera symbol. Doyle continued to be a Clinton supporter, they go way back. All this speculation is just silly.

irma,
obama won’t pick,
sen clinton does not want to be vp

What is the matter with so of you? You can tell the uneducated people by the ignorance they display in there posts. Why would any person who really loves this country vote for John McCain. This man is unstable, hates our mothers, loves war, and is unwilling to tell the American people the truth, just to begin with. I don’t think that we will have for a long time to come the opportunity we have with Obama. If Obama looses, America will suffer greatly in so many ways. Not only will we have John McCain for our president, we will have God as our enemy. This is America’s trial, not Obama’s.

Catleya, Whith all do respect! If you read my whole post, you would have seen that I never questioned what Hillary Clintons role with women around the world has been but I will say it’s very hard to take her serious sometime when she tells the world that she was shot at by snipers and then admits that she lied or the whole peace deal in Iraland which she took a great deal of credit for, that also turned out to be a bit of a stretch. My point with this post is that whatever great things she might have or might not have done for women has been cheepend by her own doing and know one else. In my opinion Hillary Clinton is no role modle to women and certainly not to my two young daughters and son. That’s the whole problem these days we want to justiy bad behavior and sale our souls for a win or a little money etc because it feels good for the moment but long term you pay a bigger price and the price being paid is your selfrespect your character, is that the women Hillary Clinton you want your kids to say is their role modle? I dont! We need to reach that moral high ground and stop selling out our morals to what we know in are minds and hearts is wrong. I teach my two girls and my son to work hard and to treat people how they would like to be treated and that will gain you the respect and a internal happiness that you will always be proud of, if you live by that, then you will not have to lie our stretch the truth. Some of us adults could use a little teaching in this area. I’m sure your a very nice person and I mean no disrespect but Hillary is not the right women for the job! Maybe it might be my daughter or yours if you have one that will be the right women for the job. My daughter talks about being president all the time and she is only six, she likes the idea of being the boss and riding around in Limos LOL. The goals she reaches for have nothing to do with Obama our Hillary it’s me an her mother who tell her she and my other kids can be anything they want to be with out lieing and cheating if their willing to work hard and play by roles it will pay off. I must also say that my children are all honor roll students, my preschooler is gonna be skiping the first grade and go into the secound and I am very proud of her.She will be the next president of the united states atleast thats what she has told me. My oldest daughter is 12 and this my softball girl and she to has worked hard to be a big time picher. The real romodles are the parents not the politicians.

Orlando B from..
Coincidently, I’m back.
Thanks for assuming that I’m a nice person.
But unfortunately, I still don’t agree with you.
Nobody 100% perfect in this world.
Hillary is a politician but as you said the good role model is a good parents not a politician.
To me and to most of people think she raises Chelsea very good.
I even admire her for that.
You don’t like her sniper issue, I agree about that.
Actually there was a dangerous battle ground at that time and they transfered her to the other airport.
She got mixed up.
BTW,whom are comparing her to?
If you compare her to Obama. Obama also lied about his parents met and about his uncle story also.
He did take drugs. I guess that is not a good role model for your kids.
As I told you there is not 100 % perfect as a human and as a politician.

The Obamans must be desperate indeed, to play the Algore card.
Posted by: Mama Knows Better | Jun 16, 2008 6:49:13 PM
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Desperate indeed, as well they should be.
The women of this country are fed up with the machine that spits out spoiled, lazy boys to run amuck in our government.
Time to slap them up the side of the head and and vote the woman as a mark of HISTORY and write in Hillary on your ballot. That means millions of NO votes to Johnny and Barry!!
NEVER OBAMA!

Of course he had to pick Hillary’s spokeperson – he didn’t have a thought of his own during the debates ” I agree with Sen Clinton” so he hires a person who can feed him all of Hillary’s ideas.
No Hillary no Obama!

” I agree with Sen Clinton” so he hires a person who can feed him all of Hillary’s ideas.
No Hillary no Obama!
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The only reason he wants Hillary’s ideas is so he’ll know what not to do. He doesn’t want to run a failed campaign like she did.

an a Jamiacan reading all your posting and it is astonishing that a First World country like yours can make such stupid mistakes your economy is in a pickle, folks are loosing their homes, kid are being killed in an illegal war and folks are here advocating for John Mcain to win it beyond me. Leave that to persons who are from third world countries who are less educated and poverty stricken, what new leadership can you get form a 71 year old who has been a part of the system for more than two decade.

same here,
I am with sen. clinton all the way,
right up to when she ask me to support obama.
she may need to encourage her supporters to vote for him.
but i will not do it.
and she still has my support.

I say anyone that wants to vote for John McCain please vote for him. You’ll get the same war, the same economy, the same healthcare and all the other wonderful things George Bush has given us for the last 7 and a half years. Need I forget “four dollar” a gallon gasoline.

again sen. clinton does not want to be obama; vp. period
Posted by: jgaw | Jun 17, 2008 3:22:07 PM
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Good thing, because she ain’t gonna’ get it.

How many senior advisors do you need? This is what we can expect if BHO ever becomes Pres. Overstaffing, huge expenses and tons of taxes. Way to go! As for him hiring Clinton’s ex-chief of staff….I would think that whoever the VP is that they would hire their own. How controlling is this…..As for why…this woman is the wire of a man who is and has been on Obama’s campaign since the start. I give Hillary credit for keeping her that long. Conflict of interest and tons of pillow talk! The woman should have stepped down herself.
Can’t wait to vote McCain.

I would love to see Hillary as VP. When someone calls and asks for the President I’m sure Bill, Hillary and Obama would all answer (parallel to Three Stooges). Then Bill and Hilliary could send Obama on harmless trips around the world.

Jolly good show. Show your audience what quality writing is all about.