Gore Raises Age Issue — to Defend Obama’s Youth
DETROIT — The age issue was raised obliquely in Vice President Al Gore’s endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, last night.
But it wasn’t Gore overtly dissing McCain’s age or raising the fact that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., would be the oldest person ever first elected president, which polls indicate some voters are concerned about (more so seniors!)
It was Gore defending Obama’s youth (read: inexperience), which our new ABC News/Washington Post poll indicates many voters are concerned about.
In fact, after Gore mentioned "the Republican nominee," which was greeted by a chorus of boos in Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Gore said, “in that case, I’m glad I brought it up because, as Senator Barack Obama has said, John McCain is deserving of that respect. He has demonstrated bravery in war and as a prisoner of war, and has served in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate for many years. Moreover, he has demonstrated a willingness to debate some critical issues, including the climate crisis that many Republicans have refused to discuss at all.”
“But, even as we acknowledge his long experience,” Gore said, “we must and we will make our case that America simply cannot afford to continue the policies of the last eight years for another four. And we all know that a long tenure in Washington D.C. is not the same as judgment, wisdom and vision.”
“Nevertheless,” the former Vice President continued, “the other party seems to think that age and experience are factors that will work in their favor during this campaign. But…our shared experience as a nation tells us otherwise. I remember when one prominent Republican wondered out loud whether the Democratic nominee, and I quote, ‘really is grown up enough to be president.’ Another used the phrase, quote, ‘naive and inexperienced.’ Yet another said, quote, ‘the United States cannot afford to risk the future of the free world with inexperience and immaturity in the White House,’ end quote.”
Asked Gore, “Who are they talking about? Every single one of those quotations came from the campaign of 1960, when the Republicans attacked John Fitzgerald Kennedy for allegedly lacking the age and experience necessary to be president. Richard Nixon’s slogan in that campaign was ‘experience counts,’ to which John F. Kennedy responded, and I quote, ‘to exclude from positions of trust and command all those below the age of 44, would have kept Jefferson from writing the Declaration of Independence, Washington from commanding the Continental Army, Madison from fathering the Constitution, and Christopher Columbus from even discovering America.’”
Cute.
But it’s probably worth pointing out that when Kennedy made those comments defending his age, he was defending himself not from Nixon or even the Republicans. He was answering a criticism leveled at him by former President Harry S Truman, a Democrat.
Truman had asked, "Senator, are you certain you are quite ready for the country, or that the country is ready for you in the role of President in January 1961? May I suggest you be patient?"
Truman said Kennedy should "put aside" his ambitions, that Democrats needed a nominee who was "someone with the greatest possible maturity and experience."
That’s what JFK was responding to.
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Posted by: scooby | June 17, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
A past loser (Gore) defending a future loser (Obama)—how fitting.
McCain 08—by a landslide.
Posted by: Disgusted Ex-Democrat | June 17, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
And Truman was right. For all the attempts in this campaign to revivify the myths of Camelot, a hard-nosed inspection of JFK’s administration reveals it to be a largely failed administration led by a man and his family who’s own corruption would be hidden from the public while the myths led us into the most costly and destructive events of his generation.
For history to be an example, it has to be correctly recorded and understood. The spin of the Obama campaign is being used to rewrite history to empower its sense of inevitability.
That is the same tactic alQaeda uses to recruit women and children to its cause.
Posted by: len | June 17, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Just think if Gore had been elected in 2000 there would be no Barack Obama running for President today. (Assuming Gore would be re-elected.)
And Gore´s Vice-President would now be the Democratic nominee.
And that was….
Joe Lieberman!
LOL.
Posted by: Sally J. | June 17, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
strange. didn’t Gore mentionhow Michigan Democrats had their votes stolen in 2008?
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Barack Obama is not even a Dan Quayle.
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
strange. didn’t Gore mentionhow Michigan Democrats had their votes stolen in 2008?
Posted by: geevill | Jun 17, 2008 9:48:55 AM
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That’s because our Primary was bungled by our incompetent Gov. Granholm. No one here thinks it was stolen. We are smarter than that.
Posted by: Fired UP!! | June 17, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
When Ronald Reagan was running for his second term, his age was referenced by his opponent and his humorous and timely response won him the second term and the subject of age was not an issue again in the campaign. Wisdom and EXPERIENCE are critical in dealing with International issues as well as Domestic. Ombama talks about change but has no plan, and think about it if Congress does not support a plan it is not going anywhere.
Let’s stick to the real issues, how is he going to change the country? A military man is trained in strategy, in planning, in leadership,getting the job done, overcoming all obstacles to win. McCain has proven he is more than an overcomer and can do it.
Posted by: Nan | June 17, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
strange. didn’t Gore mentionhow Michigan Democrats had their votes stolen in 2008?
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Correct!
All those people who would have voted for Obama were silenced when the DNC announced their votes wouldn’t count and he pulled his name from the ballot. And then they allowed Sen Clinton to keep the votes she got. What a scam.
Gore is too admirable to go there.
Howvere, thanks for your support Geevill!
Obama 08!
Posted by: nancy in TN | June 17, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
“Let’s stick to the real issues, how is he going to change the country?”
Obamalosi plans to get rid of the capital gains tax on start ups and push $15 billion to Silicon Valley companies working on ‘green’ projects. It sounds good until you realize that the start ups are financed by the very hedge fund and venture capitalists who have been the receivers of the Bush boom-for-the-rich and already have the money they need.
The problem is systemic. They use that money as a money engine and dump the companies they can’t flip up. They outsource the labor overseas and choke the life out of the American employees with impossible schedules and reduced benefits. IOW, vig: the old mob money method. Typical Chicago style thinking.
Obamalosi is rewarding those who did finance his campaign: New York/Silly Valley investment firms.
Posted by: len | June 17, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
All comparisons and references to Kennedy only make Obama look smaller. Kennedy was a distinguished World War II veteran and had spent 6 years in House of Representatives and 7 years in the Senate before being elected President. Until 2004, Obama was a part time state legislator and law lecturer. His Senate term started less than 4 years ago and he has spent much of it running for President. This would be comical if it weren’t so serious.
Posted by: NJH | June 17, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Kennedy had a lot more expericence than Obama did at the same age:
After Kennedy graduated from Harvard in 1940, he entered the Navy. In 1943, when his PT boat was rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer, Kennedy, despite grave injuries, led the survivors through perilous waters to safety.
Back from the war, he became a Democratic Congressman from the Boston area, advancing in 1953 to the Senate.
In 1956 Kennedy almost gained the Democratic nomination for Vice President, and four years later was a first-ballot nominee for President.
And Obama?
Posted by: Sally J. | June 17, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
The Bush administration had 7+ years to push for this drilling for domestic oil plan. Why should we believe McSame would be any better?
Posted by: mims nj | June 17, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Michigan votes will count in November and that’s a 34 electoral vote swing to McCain.
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
When Ronald Reagan was running for his second term, his age was referenced by his opponent and his humorous and timely response won him the second term and the subject of age was not an issue again in the campaign.
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Then Reagan got re-elected, started falling asleep at briefings, and his mind became numb due to the onset of alzheimers.
It was tremendously scary. No one knew who was actually running the country his last years in office. The CIA began implimenting their own foreign policy by starting wars in Central America and funded them via the drug trade. This is supposed to make us feel better about McCain?
You then write, “Wisdom and EXPERIENCE are critical in dealing with International issues as well as Domestic.”
Ok, let’s look at McCains foreign policy “wisdom”:
“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
“Because I believe that the success will be fairly easy,” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad.” [CNN, 9/29/02]
“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
“But I believe that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]
“This is a mission accomplished.” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]
Can you estimate when we can bring our troops home? (Matt Lauer) “No, but that’s not really important.” [ABC 6/12/08]
McCAIN PROVES AGE DOES MEAN WISE
Posted by: Bad "Experience" | June 17, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
what has the Bush tax cuts for the rich done strengthen our weak dollar or to slow the export of American jobs?
Posted by: mims nj | June 17, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Michigan votes will count in November and that’s a 34 electoral vote swing to McCain.
Posted by: geevill | Jun 17, 2008 10:11:07 AM
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LOL!!! Have you ever BEEN to MI???
We are in a one-state recession since 2002.
We have lost over 400,000 jobs, largely due to NAFTA.
We are 3rd in home foreclosures.
WE may have “Reagan Democrats” here, but not “Bush Democrats” and not “McCain Democrats”.
McCain wants to give large corporations tax cuts….nuff said.
Posted by: Fired UP!! | June 17, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
What has the war in Iraq done to the price of oil? Has this made America safer, considering we are at war with Islamic extreamistists who garner sympathy from Islamic oil producing countries? Are these prices a result of retaliation? How would fighting in Iraq at infinitum improve this situation?
Posted by: mims nj | June 17, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Gore made more than 100 million dollars in the name of Global Warming and wants to make billions of dollars with the help of this puppet Obama.
If Gore really wants to save the planet why the hell he wants to be a billionaire
Posted by: john | June 17, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Ronald Reagan, who served as the President of the United States from 1981-1989, had only eight years of government experience – three fewer than Obama – on his “resume.”
Similarly, 20th century Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson won the presidency despite having thinner resumes than Obama (Wilson, for example, served a single two-year term as the Governor of New Jersey prior to becoming President).
This is a common myth perpetuated by the right and reinforced by Senator Clinton who had less elected and legislative experience than Obama. Additionally, both Bush and Bill Clinton had less foreign policy experience than Senator Obama.
And of course, as well as Senator Obama’s 8 years in the State Senate of Illinois and 3 years in Congress, a total of 11 years in elected office, he has something that is probably more important and more relevant to becoming President than any one of the candidates who vied for the Presidency this year, and that is his years spent teaching constitutional law.
Since George Bush has repeatedly wiped his boots on the constitution, I can’t think of a better qualification than Senator Obama’s experience as a constitutional Law Professor for the University of Chicago and his his civil rights experience as a lawyer.
Our constitution is in dire need of someone as President who respects it, and understands it from a legal standpoint.
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
JFK was a WWII hero, had 14 years experience in Congress, had a lifetime of political grooming in his political family and Obama has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING. Obama is NOT qualified to be President of the U.S. Obama is NOT qualified to be a U.S. Senator. Comparisons are ludicrous!
The Democrats would be really foolish to nominate an unqualified and unelectable candidate in Obama. Let’s raise a glass to what will hopefully be the political implosion of Barack Hussein Obama (it’s his name, get used to it, it appears on the ballot because it’s his LEGAL name) BEFORE the end of August when the Dems ACTUALLY VOTE on the nomination. Until then, Obama is merely the PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE of the party. Hopefully, the DEms will have to come crawling back to Hillary Rodham Clinton who should be the nominee because she has won the popular vote and is the most qualified and most electable candidate of any party.
Otherwise, vote for McCain as a protest. Put your country first and party second.
The DNC MUST be held accountable for their failure to denounce the rampant sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranchisement continually interjected into this campaign by BArack Obama, his campaign, his nasty supporters and ALL MEDIA!!!!!
If we don’t speak out now, when?
Rise, Women, Rise!!!!!
“No self respecting woman should wish for the success of a party that ignores her sex”… Susan B. Anthony 1872
Posted by: A | June 17, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
It must really make you people really bitter to see another prominent Democrat support Sen. Obama. I am a firm believer that whom God blesses, no man can curse and Sen. Obama is blessed of God so have some cheese with your whine because nothing you say or do can stop him from winning the presidency.
Posted by: chris | June 17, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
JFK is the most overrated president in history. He did some very good things, and some very stupid things. He was also quite conservative (you could look it up). If he had not been tragically murdered, history would certainly look at him differently.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | June 17, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
We’ve had a C average bozo in the white house for the past 8 years. Look at the economy, our position in the world. Has he been good for us? McCain is too old to take this on. A statistic shows that 50% of people reaching 80 have dementia. It’s not even detectable in the beginning stages. And you don’t think McCain would admit to it willingly? What are we actually wishing for here? Think hard people. Don’t vote with your heart, use your head. We need fresh brain cells in the big chair.
Posted by: azmac | June 17, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Jake, you miss the point Al gore was making regarding Truman’s jab or concerns on the issue of Kennedy’s age. Gore’s point is not that the point is not that the Republicans made the comment. The point is that Kennedy’s response then is still valid today. Maybe Obama should repeat more often that “to exclude from positions of trust and command all those below the age of 44, would have kept Jefferson from writing the Declaration of Independence, Washington from commanding the Continental Army, Madison from fathering the Constitution, and Christopher Columbus from even discovering America.’”
Posted by: John Paul Telhomme | June 17, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Sally J. said:
For history to be an example, it has to be correctly recorded and understood. The spin of the Obama campaign is being used to rewrite history to empower its sense of inevitability.
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Aside from millions of missing emails, there is simply no one on this planet who has “re-written history” more than Bush administration. Unless you want to count Lenin or Stalin, or maybe Mao…
Lies, lies, and more lies is about all we can expect from the whole lot of Republicans we have in government today, at just about any level, but most assuredly in the Bush administration.
Posted by: rks | June 17, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
hp boston
well reagan is dead…
and i was talking about obama when i said we need someone who understands the constitution
insinuating that mccain is obviously no better at understanding the constitution just like bush has, which is apparent in their need to continue to push for telecom immunity to spy on us for no good reason
please before you make silly posts criticizing someone, at least read what they have written so you dont end up looking foolish
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Look McCain has age against him but Obama who is African American,hitting 50,stressful job,probably high BP,at risk for diabetes,kidney diease,both parents died young all adds up to STROKE.
Posted by: cissy55 | June 17, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
if mccain promises to veto every single beer again, i will vote for him
Posted by: jason | June 17, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
JFK is the most overrated president in history. He did some very good things, and some very stupid things. He was also quite conservative (you could look it up). If he had not been tragically murdered, history would certainly look at him differently.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | Jun 17, 2008 10:25:38 AM
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EXACTLY!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 17, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Obama has no record of supporting women’s issues.
As a member of the Illinois state legislature, Obama had at least 8 opportunities to VOTE on women’s issues, WHAT did Obama do? Obama voted PRESENT each and every time, the cowardly way to avoid taking a stand on issues, this is the Obama way. No record. No experience. Obama is NOT qualified to be President of the U.S.
Wishing, hoping and words won’t change that fact.
AS for the DNC, what they have to the voters in Michigan and Florida cannot possibly be legal. 1/2 votes? 1/2 a person? It calls to mind the time when blacks were considered 3/5 a person? Jim Crow? As bad as that time was, THIS is even worse. The Democratic party simply cannot be in the business of disenfranchising voters. Isn’t it ironic that it’s the black candidate who’s disenfranchising voters? Is THIS the party I stood with in 2000 and 2004 demanding that EVERY vote be counted? I don’t think so.
Obama has destroyed the DEmocratic party. The final nail in the coffin is the Obama audacity of moving the DNC operations to Chicago, the most toxic political sewer in the nation, where Obama swims with the rats.
As for McCain, better to dance with the devil you know than the one you don’t.
The Democratic party understands two things, money and votes. WE have the power to with hold BOTH. DO SO. SEND the message, WE are mad as hell and WE are NOT going to take it anymore!! WE MUST defeat Obama to save the DEm party and redefine what it means to be a Democrat. WOMEN COUNT. WOMEN are the majority voting block of the Dem party and the entire nation. WE determine who will win. WE say NO to Obama and his thugs.
Posted by: A | June 17, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
hp boston
you guys think that every vote for clinton is going to go for mccain LOL
ill give you maybe 10k
and thats generous
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Mims nj, you wrote: “The Bush administration had 7+ years to push for this drilling for domestic oil plan.” And he pushed hard, but failed to convince the Democrats (who are intent on blocking all new drilling, blocking all new building of refineries, and refuse to allow new nuclear plants to be built) to approve opening up ANWR for drilling. (Which Sen. McCain also opposes!)
You also wrote: “what has the Bush tax cuts for the rich done…” The 2001 Bush tax cuts also lowered the bottom two federal income tax brackets: The 15% bracket became 10%; and the 28% bracket became 15%. Individuals whose incomes fall within these bottom two tax brackets make under $32,550 ($65,100 for married couples filing jointly). I wouldn’t call them “rich.” Incidentally, when the Democrats allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire, these two tax brackets will revert back to their original rates — that will result in one of, if not the, largest tax increase in American history.
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I hope America will choose maturity, humility and experience to lead this country.
Obama desperately wants to be the next JFK but will be compared to Carter.
Hillary/McCain
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 17, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Obama will raise taxes. Nuff said.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Another loser backing a loser.
Posted by: brigitte | June 17, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Another loser backing a loser.
Posted by: brigitte | Jun 17, 2008 11:23:40 AM
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Like Bush endorsing McCain?
Posted by: Fired UP!! | June 17, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Anyone who thinks we don’t need to raise taxes should be wounder were our govenment is getting the money for this war we are so far in debt it’s not even funny. I thought repubs. Were responsable but this president has put this country in more debt than any president in history! Thats a fact look it up. So there is now way to get out of debt without stopping the war and adjusting the tax system.
Posted by: Joe | June 17, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
So Kennedy’s brilliant defense was against Truman, not the Republicans. It still has relevancy for Obama in spite of a Gore misspeak on credit.
Posted by: kat | June 17, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Then why is Obama trailing in Michigan? November 4th, 2008 . oh boy it’s going to be fun watching the cult
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
May we be reminded of the Bay of Pigs?? Wasn’t it because of JFK’s inexperienced that every single one of them got slaughtered by Fidel Castro?? When a president is taking an education while we’re at war, it’s the human lives that pay for that education!!!
McCain is not Bush. That and Age are the only 2 things you will hear coming out of Democrat’s mouths. I trust McCain loves and protects this country and scare of obama on selling out this country. So far on major issues, Obama has yet again proven that he’s on the extremely liberal. I’d vote for a moderate anyday anytime over anykind of extremes.
Posted by: hannah | June 17, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
“For history to be an example, it has to be correctly recorded and understood. The spin of the Obama campaign is being used to rewrite history to empower its sense of inevitability.”
Sally didn’t say that. I did. I’ve a very low opinion of history riggers.
Yes, the Bush administration was adept at spin. So you want to elect yet another machine that does that? That would be Obamalosi.
Independents are not interested in the Spy Vs Spy games of the political parties. They only differ in their uniforms but are otherwise the same. I am watching the conduct of their campaigns. So far, McCain is running a much more believable campaign.
Posted by: len | June 17, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
More of Obama’s GOOD JUDGMENT—-now he has thrown Florida and Ohio “under the bus” –he doesn’t need these states to win the Election.
Big Worry Some Day Obama will Throw The US “under the bus”.
Posted by: Anne | June 17, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Then why is Obama trailing in Michigan? November 4th, 2008 . oh boy it’s going to be fun watching the cult
Posted by: geevill | Jun 17, 2008 11:32:25 AM
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He isn’t the latest Rasmussen poll conducted 6/9 shows Obama ahead 3 points, bascially a dead heat. But remeber, that poll was conducted only 2 days after HRC dropped out.
Posted by: Fired UP!! | June 17, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
The MSM is flooding the airwaves with these polls, trying to suggest it’s only a matter of time before the empty suit ascends to the presidency. They fail to mention that Kerry was also ahead in the polls and Obama has a lot more negatives on his side than did Kerry.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Fired Up :- I’m no Bush fan but he won two elections. Gore is a loser because he lost an election. OK? So therefore, we have a loser (Gore) backing a loser
Posted by: brigitte | June 17, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
cindy in nc,
BUT BILL CLINTON WAS YOUNGEST OF THEM ALL AT A TENDER AGE OF 42… NEITHER JFK NOR OBAMA POSSESSES THE REQUIRED INTELLIGENCE, FLAIR, PANACHE OR THE WISDOM THAT BILL CLINTON HAD….
Posted by: neil1785 | June 17, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
The polls have Obama leading McCain by 11 in Ohio, 6 in PA, 3 in Michigan, 5 in NH, 7 in Virginia, 6 in Colorado, 9 in New Mexico, 13 in Wisconsin, 7 in Iowa.
These are states Kerry or Gore did not carry. Obama leads in all.
Bill Clinton didn’t win Virginia nor Colorado.
Obama is leading in traditional Blue states. He now leads in traditional Red states.
Also making a play for North Carolina. Tied. With a boost from the AA community NC is blue.
Posted by: Vanessa | June 17, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
” Wasn’t it because of JFK’s inexperienced that every single one of them got slaughtered by Fidel Castro??”
Correction. They weren’t all slaughtered. Many were taken prisoner and traded back in the years that followed. Kennedy did not provide air support. Many were killed.
Information about the invasion had been provided to Castro so they were in position and waiting. Various sources attribute that to a mole in the CIA and others to a mole in the White House. It has been speculated that the Kennedy’s courted elements of the left wing who were covertly spying for Castro. If true, it was symptomatic of his inexperience in foreign affairs.
Kennedy inherited the Bay of Pigs operation from the Eisenhower administration. He approved it but the champion was Robert Kennedy who was also working with agencies and the Mob to kill Castro.
Posted by: len | June 17, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
And no one bothered to insert the obvious: “Mr. Vice President, Obama is no Jack Kennedy”? Well, perhaps he is closer than the last guy to make the comparison.
Posted by: Will | June 17, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
The left wing of the Democratic party, may be satified with their “street organizer”, although we will see what the typical Americans think of him on election day.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Look where all their experience has taken us. Every country has high milage cars but our leaders block them from being sold in the U.S. Our energy program consists of oil. We are the biggest polluters in the world and our leaders just don’t care. The more oil we use the better, need those profits. Our jobs are sent overseas where people work for slave wages so the rich can get richer on their investments. Our country is 11 trillion in debt and the dollar is not worth spit. The worthless dollar is the reason gas prices are 4 bucks a gallon. We don’t have enough oil in the U.S. to make a difference on prices, but John McCain wants to dril so the oil companies can rake in every last dollar they can. Our leaders don’t want to talk about 2nd generation bio-fuels because that would put the oil companies out of business. Electric cars are being blocked because that will hurt oil prices. The republicans have us stuck in the stone age. McCains answer to fixing the economy is cut taxes on everything and reel in government spending. How do you reel in Gov. spending when your burning 12 billion a month in Iraq. How do you get rid of our debt with tax cuts on everything. Bush did that and look where we are. The rich are cashing out, selling off our country piece by piece.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Where are you getting landslide from ? the numbers just don’t add up.
Posted by: GetaLife | June 17, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
“MCCAIN was in the BOTTOM 1 PERCENT OF HIS CLASS at AnnapolIs, (where her got in because of his father and grandfather), was a STUDENT WITH DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS, and CRASHED FIVE PLANES. Forget the old age, this guy is ANOTHER DUMMY AND BIG TROUBLE.”
At least he loves his country and is a true patriot.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
The Gore endorsement is not going to help Obama, who is already the “chosen one” of the left wing. What Obama needs is to appeal to center-left and center-right voters. Sticking it in Hillary’s eye by hiring her old campaign manager is not the way to do it. What is he going to do next, chose Richardson as his VP? That would really burn the bridges to Hillary’s supporters.
Obama talks about getting Americans out of their comfort zone. He needs to get out of his own comfort zone on the left. The left wing of the Democratic party does not win presidential elections, ever!
Posted by: David H | June 17, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Numbers don’t add up for a landslide. No one wants another republican president.
Posted by: GetaLife | June 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
At least he loves his country and is a true patriot.
Posted by: Mack | Jun 17, 2008 12:01:55 PM
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The same was said about G.W. Bush. How did that work out for you??
Posted by: Fired UP!! | June 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Fired Up – Humble is the best quality you can find in a person. Whether you’re rich or have higher education that doesn’t mean you’re better than anybody. That’s exactly why obama doesn’t get the 18millions votes that went to Clinton.
When you look at a Young obama, an old man McCain, a woman Hillary and wife Michelle, you can see obama is less-than-a-man of all. LOL…and this wimp is going to command the strongest military?? an arrogant empty suit!!
Posted by: hannah | June 17, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Fired UP!!, wrote,
“Getting a BJ and inserting a cigar doesn’t exactly square with harrassment or stalking. But then again, your HRC supporters are masters of cherry
picking the facts”
YOU ARE AS STUPID AS YOUR PAGAN IDOL, MORON!!! I BET YOU ARE ALSO A SLIMY GAY LIKE OBAMA…. WATCH OUT FOR LARRY SINCLAIR ON THE LOOSE….PATHETIC….
“Elizabeth Hasselbeck says Obama isn’t brilliant”.
NO WONDER!!!!! Look at him on debates with Hillary. He’s too dumb subjective. He is unable to talk in-depth about any of his so-called policies that he actualy stole from Hillary’s briliant ideas as proven at the 4 debates he had with her.
Ben Stein was on Jimmy Kimmel last year promoting his new book. Stein knows how to make a dollar or several million. Kimmel asked Stein if Obama should read his book. Stein said no, he should start with something more suited to his education level on the economy like simple addition and subtraction.
Obama took private lessons in economy just last year but apparently without great success according to his teacher:. He said Obama was slow on the uptake.
I now question Obama’s credibility of being a Magna Cum Laude from Harvard… HOW IN FACT DID HE EARN IT?… he can hardly debate sensibly on the spot without a prepared speech written by a paid speechwriter… he’s typically slow at impromptu speaking and most of the time he stutters and at the loss for words and he hardly uses or knows the right terminology like the difference between denounce and reject … evaded crunch-time debates with Hillary and now evading McCain’s a number of requested debates… evading public view of McCain-Obama debate by Obama himself selecting only one debate on the date that falls on a holiday which is July 4th when everyone is out vacationing… things like these do not make up an intellectual that has achieved higher if not the highest honor in the academe… not to mention the fact that as an adult he still practiced classroom-type of cheating like he plagiarized his speeches, bribed DNC delegates/superdelegates to seal his nomination, lied to the highest degrees… plus the fact that he as well as his wife had more black professors than whiteys and so on and so forth…And Besides, Obama & his wife were afforded the luxury of 230 points added to their SATs in order for an african-american to get into an Ivy League school. It pretty much points out that they must be too dumb that they need to be given the extra 230 points before they can even take the SAT!!
Posted by: neil1785 | June 17, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
hannah wrote:
That’s exactly why obama doesn’t get the 18millions votes that went to Clinton
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No, he got his OWN 18 million and the NOMINATION.
Posted by: Fired UP!! | June 17, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Fired up – it has been working great for me!! At least I’m still alive making end meets. I’m sure it has work out great for you too because you’re sitting in front of your computer with internet to blog here. So I assume the terrorist hasn’t attacked you yet since 9/11. Didn’t you hear obama applauded the way we treated the terrorists of world trade in 1993 with the way we treat the US citizens?? Where did that lead us??? Oh, I bet you must have forgotten 9/11 of 2001.
Posted by: hannah | June 17, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Mr. Danley with respect to your response have the tax breaks resulted in added security for working families? The dollar is weaker than in the 90′s and our surplus has been reduced to whopping debt. Other than allowing the GOP a talking point during elections has this policy resulted in any real benefit for working Americans and the prospect of future generations. Who is going to pay for these debts?
Posted by: mims nj | June 17, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
22,000 bots. Preaching to the cult.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Micheal, here’s obama without telepromter…umm…the…umm…the…i mean…you know…i had no idea that’s what going on…umm…you know…even though Johnson is vetting vice-presidency for me…ummm, he doesn’t work for me…umm…the…umm…i’ll make a speech tomorrow…give me a day to get my speech made….ummm..so don’t ask any more question…just wait for my speech….umm…you know it’s not about gas price…ummm…you know this is just another distraction…umm…so just wait for my speech…THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU…
Posted by: hannah | June 17, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Joe, we could also get out of debt if we eliminated all law enforcment (federal, state and local) and shut down the judiciary with no more trials — just let criminals do whatever they want! While were at it maybe we should just eliminate the military! Now we would definitely have a surplus! BUT we don’t do that because insuring domestic tranquility, providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare are governmental responsibilities that transcend everything else.
Whether you agree with it or not, and in spite of the reasons we got into the Battle of Iraq in the first place, al Qaeda has declared Iraq as its primary battlefield in their jihad against the United States and Western Civilization. Therefore under the responsibility of providing for the common defense it is in our best interest to defeat al Qaeda in Iraq. Pulling out our troops before we have defeated al Qaeda in Iraq will be handing a military victory to al Qaeda. That will embolden them even more. And may prove even more costly (both in lives and monetary value) down the road.
Now then 2001 and 2002 Bush tax cuts actually generated revenue. In fact there was about a 6 month period, late 2006 and early 2007 in which the federal government took in more revenue than we paid out. And our economy was doing very well — in spite of the war. But then the huge spike in the cost of energy, the sub-prime mortgage fiasco, and the continued slump in the housing industry the past 18 months or so have greatly affected our economy.
Tax cuts generate jobs, which results in more individuals paying taxes! But raising taxes will hurt small businesses (most pay the individual tax rates) by cutting into their profits. So they will lay off workers. That means fewer individuals paying taxes, thus less revenue.
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
oh and Michael – we’re having a war in Afghanistan and Obama want to send an Arabic translator to Afghanitan. Anyone with a decent knowledge would have known that Afghan don’t speak Arabic. That’s your candidate. McCain is not the best one but too bad the other choice is Obama.
Posted by: hannah | June 17, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Mims nj, the 2001 and 2002 Bush tax cuts have kept more money in taxpayers pockets. Unfortunately, the high cost of energy, the sub-prime mortgage fiasco and the continued slump in the housing market have resulted in higher inflation and more expenses which are hurting the taxpayers. BUT they still have more money in their pockets in order to deal with these added expenses. Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will mean less money for individuals to pay for the added expenses due to inflation.
Now then security and taxes are two different issues. We have not had another attack since 9/11. So in that regard, yes the American people HAVE HAD more security.
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
You people are defending McCain. He just said that the first thing he will do is push through a whole bunch of trade deals. How is that going to get us Americans the jobs we deserve. I thought Hillary was a double talker. He’s going to cut corporate taxes to create jobs, but the one thing that he didn’t tell ya is that those jobs will be going overseas. Our tax dollars go to help the corporate slugs move to a new country where workers are slaves. After all these years I can’t believe you people can’t see whats going on. Why are we sending our jobs to a communist country. Isn’t McCain always ranting about domocracy. These people don’t share our way of life. China supplies the money for Bush’s little oil war. We have a bunch of traitors running ou country. I hope you people know what your doing.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Hanna the GOP has had ample oppurtunity to resolve these issues since 9/11, taxes may be partially the reason for the defection of American jobs but the main force behind it is cheap labor. The companies that have been built on American dollars are more profit driven than any loyalty to the American people. If government interrvention isn’t made corporate greed will drive these jobs away period. I mean if our own government will sell out the American people for a war for oil, why should we expect anything better from corporate America? It seems like a bit of a fantasy to think we will have this amazing rebound under a McCain administration.
Posted by: mims nj | June 17, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The larger the tax cuts, the larger the debt, the weaker the dollar, the more we pay on products that come from outside the U.S. Our money is not worth the paper it’s printed on. The dollar is backed by oil, we have no more oil. Thats why our country is being sold off piece by piece. If we don’t start producing our own fuel we are doomed. The rich criminals that are running our country are willing to give it all away to make money. Think about it. All the technology that was invented in this country has been given away. We don’t produce anything anymore. I hope you people are happy. Soon, no one in the world will need anything this country has. Now tell me, where does that leave us. You have no idea what your voting for.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Michigan democrats didn’t have there votes stolen, well unless you consider the fact that it was a flawed election from the start. To be fair, IMO the DNC messed up by taking all the delegates away from both Florida and Michigan, when the half penalty was fairest, but Obama suffered as much as Hillary from the bungled Michigan Primary. At least Hillary’s voters got to vote for there candidate.
Posted by: markymark | June 17, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
One thing watching Gore’s endorsement that occured to me, is who did Gore get stuck with the stiff as a board label. That was one passionate speech. If only we had seen more of that in 2000 we may have been spared the disasters of the last 8 years.
Posted by: markymark | June 17, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Half the democrats don’t want Obama.
Posted by: tia | June 17, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Michael M., more trade means more markets for American goods. THAT means more jobs here at home. Businesses go overseas to avoid the higher cost of doing business — which also includes taxes. Just imagine what it would be like if the oil companies left the United States in retaliation for the windfall profit taxes!
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“That was one passionate speech. If only we had seen more of that in 2000 we may have been spared the disasters of the last 8 years.”
Yeah, mass rallies are long on “passion” — it’s probably all the pheromones in the air — short on substance.
As for Gore — who said he wasn’t going to endorse anybody — if Gore hadn’t wussed out in 2000, there wouldn’t have BEEN a second Bush regime.
Posted by: Mama Knows Better | June 17, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Wasn’t Gore part of that horrible Clinton administration you Obama supporters keep telling us about.
Posted by: tww | June 17, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Mims nj, government “intervention” or more precisely, “interference,” hurts profit margins. California’s high corporate tax has driven corporations out of the state and into Nevada (which is a very business friendly state) for well over a decade. (NOTE: The fact that Nevada does not have a state income tax is a benefit to the employees.) But the loss of the revenue has been devastating to the California economy.
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Why is it that I feel uneasy about Obama? I want to vote for him because I want a democrat in the WH come January, 2009, but I don’t feel excited or hopeful. There are a lot of signs of uneasiness among the electorate. He should be more ahead in the polls than he is. This reminds me of Kerry/Bush election. I had an uneasy feeling about Kerry also. I hope there is unity when the convention comes. I also hope he will run on a platform. I have yet to know what that is. Change is nice, but it’s not a platform. His VP pick better be a good one or it may be a disaster come November.
Posted by: Lois, California | June 17, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
James, you are out of your mind. How in the world do you figure we get more jobs over here by U.S. companies moving overseas. Don’t you know that whole citics have been wiped out from jobs leaving. What planet are you on. The electronics industry is gone, textile industry is gone, auto industry is gone, the drug industry is gone, do you want me to keep going. Now we have to pay millions of our tax dollars to keep an eye on the Chinese because they want to give us poison drugs. The FDA used to take care of monitoring drugs in this country with very little monry. What in gods name are you talking about.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“Why is it that I feel uneasy about Obama? … I hope there is unity when the convention comes … ”
Maybe you feel uneasy because he’s a corporate “post-parisan” construct who talks out both sides of his mouth on every subject, and has been caught in so many downright lies it’s becoming an embarrassment?
In addition to hijacking the DNC to Chicago, there are rumors — but no official announcements so far, that I know of — the Obamans are trying to CANCEL the Denver convention, and delegate VOTING, in favor of a coronation-like event (a mass rally, natch) in Chicago.
(Does anyone know MORE about this?)
Posted by: Mama Knows Better | June 17, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Michael M, free trade opens up our markets to international customers. It is NOT free trade that is sending our jobs overseas, it is the lack of government regulation, lack of government interference and low corporate taxes that make other countries more appealing.
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
OH, and James, the oil industry cant move overseas because they have been thrown out of most oil producing countries. Do you think Putin is stupid. Just remember, all the oil that those oil companies got came from American soil. That oil belongs to the people of this country, at least they can pay taxes to keep America going. Bush lets them get away with murder. They have squandered Americas wealth.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
James you are driving me up a wall. We don’t have any products to sent to other countries. Whats left food, name a few. Name some things that we have that other countries dont. Military equiptment is not going to keep this country going. Bush has been selling that technology to. He covers it up with, the Chinese have been hacking in to our computers. You cant lower taxes enough in this country to compete with slave labor. These trade deals are set up to lock us out. This country will never recover. I was not born yesterday.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Boy James the American media has pulled one over on you. Bush wants to build ports in Mexico to receive Chinese goods, add then truck them into the U.S. using Mexican drivers which will under cut our drivers. All those union jobs at U.S. ports will be gone. Replaced by people from another country. America will be reduced to stacking Chinese products in some warehouse. Hows that for a trade deal. The Bush way of dealing with the economy is to build more jails. We are the biggest jailer in the world because people cant afford to make an honest living.
Posted by: Michael M | June 17, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Michael M., you wrote: “…all the oil that those oil companies got came from American soil.” If that were true then we would be 100% independent of foreign oil, and we wouldn’t be in this squeeze in which that we find ourselves. Oil company profits amount to just 8 cents per gallon of gasoline; and the individual outlets make about 1-4 cents per gallon of gasoline. The only reason they report profits into the tens of billions each quarter is due to the huge volume sold.
It’s not that we have products that other countries don’t have, it’s the products that we do have are BETTER quality. But due to the high costs of doing business, which is ultimately passed onto the consumer, the prices for our products are higher. So even Americans purchase the cheaper priced & less quality products. That is the nature of the free market and capitalism.
The United States has 300 million people. How long do you think we would be in business if we cut off all trade with the other 6.5 billion people in the world?
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Al Gore wants to take a revenge of his lost.
Posted by: catleya | June 17, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Chris and Michael M. are more on point than anyone on this page I’ve seen. You guys are all kidding yourselves with your analysis. Most of you sound like political analysts, but you fail to see that Barack is not your typical politician, so none of this stuff applies to him. He has transcended everything people put in front of him and said he would not/could not do, including tipping over the “inevitable” Clinton machinery. He is mesmerizing, and some people just don’t like it. Save the political rhetoric for the McCain campaign, this country needs a man who is talking common sense. It is stupid to judge any candidate on what he will or will not do, what he believes or does not believe because no one can please EVERYONE on EVERY issue. Barack will do what is RIGHT on all the issues, not just one or two, and that is what we as a society is not used to so we don’t know how to deal with him. Well, we need to learn because he not only won the nomination here, the WORLD has endorsed him!!
Posted by: gimmeabreak | June 17, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Gimmeabreak, you wrote: “Barack will do what is RIGHT on all the issues, not just one or two, and that is what we as a society is not used to so we don’t know how to deal with him.” Contrary to popular belief, Sen. Obama is NOT infallible. He is NOT the Messiah. To the contrary, in several of the debates he acknowledged that he has made mistakes.
Posted by: James Danley | June 17, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
WHO HAS THE RIGHT VISION FOR AMERICA? THIS ISN’T ABOUT THE RIGHT AGE OF A CANDIDATE, BUT THE RIGHT TIME TO LEAD THE NATION FORWARD VERSUS BACKWARDS. IF YOUTHFUL ENERGY AND NEW FOUND EXPERIENCE WILL DO THE JOB, SO BE IT; IF ELDERLY CUNNING AND OLD TIME FEAR-MONGERING IS WHAT THE NATION NEEDS NOW, THEN SO BE IT. WE’LL SURVIVE EITHER—WE’VE SURVIVED GEORGE!—FIND WHAT YOU WANT IN A CANDIDATE, AND GO OUT AND SUPPORT IT—AGAIN, AGE OR YOUTH ISN’T THE END ALL TO THIS RACE—INSTEAD, FIND THE VISION FOR A BETTER AMERICA AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. FOR ME, IT’S TIME FOR A DEMOCRAT TO STAND UP AND DO THE JOB FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS.
Posted by: benighse | June 18, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Age? You’ve got to be kidding. When does being older become a problem? However being in-experienced and young has always been an issue.
I agree with some of the post made. I am unemployed and trying to find a job has been a nightmare since I was laid off, 6 months ago. Not only has jobs been cut but when they re-hire they want bi-lingual. And they want to pay a lot less (50% or more). I don’t have a problem with being paid less, it’s better than nothing…but I was born here, and speak english. Now un-employed, english speaking only, with no insurance, can’t afford gas, groceries……I’m one of many. I want the jobs brought back, and I don’t want to be refused an interview because I don’t speak spanish.
I am doing everything I can to NOT purchase items made outside of the US. Yes there are some things I have had to do without, but if everyone tried harder it might make a difference. Think about it…the company I worked for moved their plant to Mexico. Most of the products we purchase are from China, Japan, Thialand…almost all our call centers have moved to foriegn countries. It’s depressing.
Posted by: M | June 18, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm