By Ed O'Keefe

Jun 3, 2008 6:20pm

How Obama Won and Clinton Lost

Opinion by Matthew Dowd, ABC News Political Contributor

A year ago, Hillary Clinton was 30-points ahead over any rival in the Democratic primary. She had outraised everyone at that point by more than a two to one margin. She had the backing of the majority of the Democratic establishment. She had the backing of a popular former President who happened to be her husband. And she lost.

So what happened?

Like any story, the reasons and causes aren’t easily reduced to a one paragraph explanation and there were multiple causes for why Clinton lost. I will reflect on just on a few from my perspective.

This is a race that Clinton could have won and should have won, and came very close. And her gender ultimately didn’t have much to do with the loss.

The following is my attempt at explaining what happened:

1. She ran for months and months as the candidate of experience and the electorate overwhelmingly wanted change. She wasted many resources and much time arguing and building a case based on experience, and two-thirds of Democratic voters wanted change. She tried turning this around late in the game and Obama owned it at that point.

2. The political environment of this race was much different than 2004 or 2000. In those elections, strength was the key attribute the country was looking for. The country desired more of a father figure. Today, the country is looking for more a a healing presence, someone more nurturing and demonstrating an ability to bring the American family together –- more of a mothering persona. The country wanted a Mom, and Hillary gave them a Dad. She tried to hard to demonstrate her toughness and strength and voters wanted more caretaking and sensitivity.

3. Presidential campaigns are always about understanding voters fears, but then asking them to vote their hopes. Clinton did an unbelievable job speaking to voters fears but she never crossed the bridge to speak to voters hopes. She got stuck in the fear equation and voters needed her to move to hope at some point.

4. The Clinton campaign based their tactical strategy on the idea that this would be a short race and big state victories early would decide it quickly. This primary became a long race and every single caucus or primary mattered. Clinton scrambled to retool the campaign based on a longer effort, in the midst of a heated primary. 

5. Hillary Clinton never separated herself enough from Bill in the course of this race. Voters wanted to see her stand on her own two feet, and understand that on her own she could do the job and it would be her presidency. Every time Bill showed up on the radar it reminded voters that she wasn’t on her own.   And couple this with fact that Bill Clinton, while having a great political ear and voice advocating on behalf of himself, seems to not be as adept at advocating on behalf of someone else. 

6. The country is looking for something new and hip and next generational, and this is especially true for voters under 30 (the 9/11 generation). Barack Obama gave voters this, and Hillary didn’t. Obama was the Ipod of this election, while Clinton was the Walkman. The Walkman is reliable and easy to use and works great, it just doesn’t have the hip factor that an Ipod does.

Obviously, this is only a short list of causes from my own perspective, and equally as important was Obama’s candidacy, his message, and his campaign’s tactical successes.

But in the end, this race was in Hillary Clinton’s hands and it is a race she should have won, no matter her opponent.   

And dealing with a loss where you didn’t have to lose, but for your own actions, is heartwrenching. I do feel for the process she must be going through and will go through. Peace to her.

User Comments

SHE WAS TO SELF CENTERED ALL FOR HERSELF AND TO HECK WITH THE REAS OF YOU,NOW SHE WANT VEE P NO way THE ARE ALREADY USING HER WORDS TO SMEAR HIM THANKS HILLY YOU WITCH

Posted by: white woman ind. voter | June 3, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

You left out the most important factor: Clinton voted for the Iraq war, and Obama was against it from the beginning. If Clinton had voted against giving Dumbya the authorization to go to war with Iraq, she would already be the nominee.

Posted by: Ed S, Lexington KY | June 3, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

what a load of crap – this guys opinion stinks – and whatelse – he played for both teams (repub and demo)
go figure some loser would write this garbage

Posted by: jozy | June 3, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Hill was a weak candidate who had lot of weak advisers around herself. She made lot of strategic mistakes and said lot of wrong things about Obama which today McSame is using against Obama. The best has won and the game is over. Viva America y viva Obama.

Posted by: BKMC | June 3, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

The country wanted a Mom, and Hillary gave them a Dad… and a wacky uncle-by-marriage that your family tells you to not give beer to or be caught alone with.

Posted by: PJ | June 3, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

The reason Hillary lost is a lot more complex than you suggest:
http://jimbuie.blogs.com/journal/2008/05/why-hillary-los.html

Posted by: Jim Buie | June 3, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

This writer left out a main point in her campaign.
Today most people want to tell you how the other is wrong instead of just stating what she is for or against. She answered questions beating around the bush and telling us how Obama messed up. If she cannot even answer a debate question what makes you think she can answer something specifically in the White House? Then again she will blame it on someone else.

Posted by: Rebekka | June 3, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Congrats Senator! YOU RAN A CAMPAIGN FOR THE AGES.
I HAD DOUBTS ABOUT BARACK, BUT WHEN HE MAKE HIS STANCE AGAINST THE PHONY PANDERING ON THE GAS TAX , I SAID HE WAS SPECIAL AND DIFFERENT.
IT TOOK CAHUNAS AND HEART.
HE IS THE REAL DEAL.
THE OTHERS PLAY POLITICS
HE WAS RIGHT.. YOU CANT SEND THE SAME PEOPLE BACK TO WASHINGTON AND EXPECT CHANGE.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT GENDER OR RACE BUT WHO CAN GET THE JOB DONE.
SO TO THE WOMEN OF HILLARY THIS IS NOT AMERICAN IDOL WHERE YOU MAY NOT BUY THE WINNERS ALBUM
THIS IS THIS COUNTRY FUTURE, YOUR POCKET BOOK AND YOUR LIFE . AND NO PARTY PROTECTS AND HAVE WOMEN BACK LIKE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.. FROM POLICIES TO HELP KIDS… ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT.
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Posted by: susan34 | June 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

“But in the end, this race was in Hillary Clinton’s hands and it is a race she should have won, no matter her opponent”.
Yes it was a race that she was odds on to win…but her opponenet in this was such a big issue…she would have beaten Gore, Kerry, Edwards and the like. She was just tremendously unfortunate to come up against a once in a generation sensation like Barack Obama.

Posted by: Louise | June 3, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Easy answer voter fraud at caucuses and at the DNC.
Fraud is Chicago politics as usual.
Too bad voter intimidation and rigging caucuses with out of state students wont work in a general election.
He is unelectable and Democrats are dumb. 35% of Clinton voters are walking.

Posted by: s.b. | June 3, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Good summation Matthew. Pretty much covers it.

Posted by: natal | June 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Hillary underestimated her opponent and treated him with contempt. This led her to believe the campaign would end on Super Tuesday, and she had no plans for the day after, when Obama began his historic string of victories that gave him an impregnable delegate advantage. You must always respect your opponent before you can defeat him.

Posted by: FilmMD | June 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

I did love your equating Obama with the ipod and HRC with the Walkman. That was funny. And am I, the Apple lover for many, many years about to go in a different direction.
I found your reasoning interesting (do you even read these remarks?) but disagree when you say gender didn’t have much to do with the loss. First, I think it had quite a bit to do with it, but — and in a sense you’re right — it had MORE to do with the media’s overwhelming fawning over Obama and giving him a pass instead of a critical eye. I think that had that happened much sooner in the race than it did (after Obama already had a significant lead), then HRC would have won. She almost did — and instead, the infatuation of the media, as well as voters, of the new hip young thing, pushed the race ino the other direction.
But the love affair won’t last. Obama has significant weaknesses and I think he will ultimately fail come November. I think of even my family, several of whom have said they’ll vote for McCain in the fall. Unlike me, they’re not bitter (I, on the other hand, AM bitter); they’re matter of fact. Obama simply doesn’t have experience, they sayd. McCain is a moderate and he’ll be fine for them.
(And my two voting age children are Obama all teh way.)

Posted by: Beth | June 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

bilderberg hillary the war candidate boo hoo!

Posted by: yourauthor | June 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Ed S, Lexington KY – Obama did not vote because he was not even a Senator…he would have sat on the fence like he has in the past with all major issues until the smoke clears then pick a side maybe..he has bad judgement and no experience but plenty of experience in Chicago politics and manipulating people..

Posted by: dell | June 3, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Where’s the typical race-baiting Hillary supporters always on ABC blogs? Kinda quiet these days.

Posted by: ROB | June 3, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

waaaaa waaaaa waaaaaa…….
hillary wanted to burn down waco again

Posted by: yourauthor | June 3, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Easy answer:
Stealing votes from Hillary

Posted by: GeorgeChriss | June 3, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

This article is wrong on so many points! The reason that Hillary lost was because the Dem Party leaders chose Obama from the very beginning! They cannot possibly accept Hillary. The only reason that Obama is ahead in pledged delegates is because his gains in caucuses, which are dominated by the party operatives and they are on the line with the party leaders. If you only look at the pledged delegates by primaries, Hillary won more delegates, no question, and she won the popular vote. At the end, it was again the DNC gave the nomination to Obama, including giving some of the delegates Hillary actually won in MI. So much victory by Obama and his message. Obama did not win, the DNC handed the nomination to him! And Obama has no substance in his so-called message, and he is not honest with the American people. I have always voted for dem in presidential election. This year I will vote for McCain!

Posted by: Jake | June 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

hillary what a disasta…just like nafta…shakin’ hands with newt….keeping the vote open past 15 minutes and bribing houston congressperson with million dollar contracts….0 the humanity!…maybe she’ll get fsc

Posted by: freetradein | June 3, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

You couldn’t be more wrong Ed. Obama made a speech denouncing the war before the idiotic Senate gave Bush the OK. He didn’t have to make that speech – and he took a major political risk because the country’s war approval rate was over 80% at the time. So drop your “sit on the fence” nonsense and come back to the real world.

Posted by: proudelibrul | June 3, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Funny Obama preached about the establishment and you fell for it…he preached about change and you feel for it…unfortuate he is the establishement along with all the puppet makers of his and no one question what change really meant..of course change was inevitable regardless and now it seem less likely with another Obama – Bush equivalent…no experience all show no realy substance just like our current President which was voted in office 2X…by a similar platform…AMerica is in more trouble if OBama wins and there is no change except all we have left if Obama gets elected…

Posted by: dell | June 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Oops, mean dell, not Ed.

Posted by: proudlibrul | June 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Its a sad day again in the USA. This was not a democratic election, not an election of the people but of the superdelegates, THEY CHOSE THE NOMINEE! We didn’t. Well to all you Obama supporters, congrats. Your probably the same fools that voted for George and you can see where he led us. Let’s pray for the best and that the anti-american messages he listened to from his pastor and friend, will not make its way into the white house.
This from a former democrat, soon to vote republican for the first time ever!

Posted by: JCP | June 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

And what happens if the cool uniter and “mom figure” Obama can’t even mesmerize and unite the Democratic Party itself?

Posted by: ed | June 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Dowd forgets a critical point – the “media primary” was won in a landslide by Obama. When every article is fawning and infused with admiration, it is difficult for another candidate to break through. If the shoes were on the opposite feet and Clinton hobbled to the nomination after losing three primaries in the last two weeks by TWO to ONE (West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico) the media would be all over her as a seriously “flawed candidate” – instead it is more glowing reports about Obama.

Posted by: Jeff | June 3, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

I agree somewhat. However, I expected more from Hillary in terms of her decision-making. She’s had to retract her decisions/beliefs on critical issues: 1) the Iraq War, 2)NAFTA. While her idea for Universal Healthcare sounds good to the hearing ear, if you listen to and read the plan, it will be detrimental to the average American who can’t afford another drop of mandatory paycuts. Her plan will force people to pay for health insurance, such as most states where individuals are forced to pay for car insurance. Most people will take their chances with the law until they are caught. They simply can’t afford it. –These observation are in a nutshell. I will not get into how Hillary behaved towards Obama during the primaries.

Posted by: Rational Voter | June 3, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Kake – Anyone that rewards any Republican with their vote after 8 years of lies, mismanagement, incompetence, etc. deserves what they will get – more of the same.

Posted by: proudelibrul | June 3, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Ed S, you are correct, the biggest factor by far is the Iraq occupation.
But you didn’t expect a wingnut like Matthew Dowd to admit that did you?
Hey Dowd, if you’re currently a lobbyist, John ‘Lil’ Bush’ McCain is hiring.

Posted by: Stram | June 3, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

i did not have sex with that woman…but i got loofahthingy

Posted by: bill-o | June 3, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

To All Obama Supporters: You go ahead keep being mean;guess what, Obama WILL lose in Nov. because a big portion of Hillary’s supporters, including my whole family, will vote for McCain in Nov.!

Posted by: Joan | June 3, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

one word of friendly advice for obama…from all the talk i hear…you better learn to duck

Posted by: ron | June 3, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Oh, “Jake,” your post isn’t any more creative than your choice of screen name! You and s.b. repeating tired old lines of Obama and DNC stealing the election from Hillabeans!!!
She stole it from herself!!! No one else to blame! It was hers to lose, ad by golly, she up and lost it!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: jackt51 | June 3, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

The media has helped to create the Obama momentum when it treated Obama as a rockstar and acted as his advance men during much of the early campaign.
Once the momentum is on track, the celebrity-blinded public just followed the crowd without questioning. And the crown got bigger and bigger.
Belatedly when the media started to look into the truth of this rock star Obama, all the eyebrow-raising questions about this man did not matter anymore because the blind passion obstructed any fact and truth.
Hillary’s message and her contributions to America have been washed away by the tsunami of the mob passion.
ANOTHER TRIUMPH OF THE MOB WITH THE HELP OF MEDIA DRUMMER BOYS.
CONGRATULATIONS! AMERICA.

Posted by: nomob | June 3, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

She lost because people did not want anymore Clintons in the Whitehouse. Very simple.

Posted by: Kottaras | June 3, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

I agree with the points outlined in the article. I was also for Barack because he was against the Iraqi war from the start. Clinton admitted her misjudgment but I prefer NOT to have a president with his or her hand on the button. She even had the audacity to make bold statements about potentially attacking Iran. Barack appears to have a cooler head than Hillary. I like the fact that he is willing to to sit and talk with our “enemies” instead of our leader’s normal approach further alienating ourselves from them.
Hillary mentions that her past actions indicate how she will perform in the future. I like the concept but her efforts for Universal failed in the 90′s and I will mention again- she voted for the Iraqi war!!

Posted by: Ronnie | June 3, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

It’s easy just ” Hope” you will get elected.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

One major problem with his theories: this is the democratic party’s nominee, not the country’s. Let’s see if his theories hold for the country when its Obama and McCain.

Posted by: susan | June 3, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Obama can get all the delegates and super ones too. Not my vote though.
I bet all the conspirators will eliminate write in candidates to prevent Hillary from the ballot.

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Hillary lost because of the DNC primary rules. Nevermind FL and MI, Hillary won the popular votes in both NV and TX yet Obama walked away with more delegates. No one can explain that. We can go back and forth on why Hillary lost, we’ll just go around in circles, but what can’t be denied is the fact that the person with the most votes will not be the nominee. So why even vote when the delegates choose the nominee and not the voters?

Posted by: Romeo | June 3, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

“jack51″: I was stating the facts, just look at the numbers. What are your facts? The DNC just proved that Dem Party is no better than the Republican Party, which at least has a nominee who is an honorable man. Obama is simply not qualied to be our president. We do not vote according to party’s, we vote placing the country’s interest above anything else. The Dem Party just proved it is NOT democratic. For instance, why the superdeleagtes would not let the voting finish today before endorsing Obama? See, they have no respect for democracy – the voters decide the election! McCain is not Bush, and McCain 08!

Posted by: Jake | June 3, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

He forgot to add that Obama was aided by the media and the fact that the liberal media loves Obama and the conservative media hates the Clintons. I think that was the biggest influence. Oh and money. He raised and outspent her 2 to 1, don’t forget.

Posted by: susan | June 3, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

C’MON GIRLS! WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT! WE’LL TAKE OUR FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO DENVER! HILLARY MUST BE THE NOMINEE OR WE WILL VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN! WHO CARES IF HE DON’T KNOW A SHIITE FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND! Oh, wait…I’m a guy for OBAMA…NEVERMIND!

Posted by: JimBo | June 3, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Obama can get all the delegates and super ones too. Not my vote though.
I bet all the conspirators will eliminate write in candidates to prevent Hillary from the ballot.

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Biggest mistake was personnel. If she had enticed James Carvelle to run her campaign it would have been no contest. 2 reasons: 1) He is a very astute and seasoned veteran of these affairs 2) Everyone gives way to his over-the-top nature and he could have gotten away with saying particular things that the organization needed to say without taking the heat like perhaps G. Ferraro

Posted by: Michael | June 3, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Better brace for another 4 years of rotten Republican WH.
Lesser of the two evils!

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

But in the end, this race was in HC’s hands and it is a race she should have won, no matter her opponent.
And dealing with a loss where you didn’t have to lose, nut for your won actions, is heartwrenching.
I do feel for the process she must be going through and will go through.
Peace to her.
Thanks Mr Dowd.
This time you are right.
17 millions people will feel the same.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

This guy acts like the race wasn’t as close as it was. One thing that did hurt Hillary is that she was too detailed on the stump. Those who supported Obama would rather have soundbites and listen to what’s wrong with America than how to fix it. Obama learned how to do that very well sitting in the pews of Trinity United Church.

Posted by: Susan | June 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Better brace for another 4 years of rotten Republican WH.
Lesser of the two evils!

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Give me a break about Obama’s position on Iraqi war! He opposed it in 2002 when he could not vote in Senate, and he said in 2004 that his position on Iraqi was was the same as Bush. Obama flip flap, he is not honest with the American people! Obama’s supporters and his friends in media are just mean! It is unthinkable to have a president like him. Obama has no track record to back him claims during the campaign.

Posted by: Jake | June 3, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

The democratic nominating process is flawed. Hopefully, if enough democrats leave the party as a result of what happened, they will have to change, particularly after they lose the general.

Posted by: Susan | June 3, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

sorry, I meant,
and dealing with a loss where you did not have to lose but your own actions,

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

I heard the Republican are all ready for Obama in October. They have on film Michelle Obama speaking at Trinity calling us whites names and holding us responsible for all the ills of the world. Obama has no chance for my Democratic vote. Can’t wait to see Michelle the racist.

Posted by: roger king | June 3, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Clinton was running against Obama and the DNC power machine.
The Majority of the Democratic voters want Clinton. Proven by their votes, and the votes she received.
Hillary needs to go on to the convention.
There is extremely good reason the people do not want obama.

Posted by: seah | June 3, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

In response to ron’s post: I guess we are back to 1968 instead of 2008. What a shame for America..

Posted by: Kim | June 3, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

What Hillary should say tonight – probably her best speech ever.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/What_Hillary_Clinton_Should_Say_Tonight

Posted by: Diamond E. | June 3, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

“Oh, “Jake,” your post isn’t any more creative than your choice of screen name! You and s.b. repeating tired old lines of Obama and DNC stealing the election from Hillabeans!!!
She stole it from herself!!! No one else to blame! It was hers to lose, ad by golly, she up and lost it!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!”
Good one. A shining example of the pettiness and hate exuded by obama supporters and a prime reason why hillary supporters won’t easily be swayed and bamboozled into voting for the most divisive and inexperienced GE candidate ever. Sorry dems. You kinda’ got suckered into the whole thing. How could middle of the road America ever throw the whole thing under the bus and vote for obama? That’s right, they won’t.

Posted by: Hawk | June 3, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

IPod – Walkman, what? Oh, is this the American Idol spin on this election? Like the college kids are going to determine the outcome? Someone get me the figures with the youth demo determining the outcome of an election. Please.
They just want to smoke some dope or do coke with him.
McCain all the way!
Hillary supporters for McCain will be the new Reagan Democrats. I pray she is not the VP…Obama needs to go down on his own.

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Hillary was and still remains the best qualified person to be president. Now, whether we end up with Obama or McCain, we have disaster. Either four more years of Bush, or four years of a novice with no idea how to fix this nation’s problems. Funny how the “uneducated” voters understood that Hillary was the right answer and those who are “educated” are so out of touch with the lives of real Americans, not to mention the problems. It’s like the bosses whose secretaries do all the work and they take credit for it. It’s a sad day in America and I’m both appauled and ashamed of the media for its role in fawning over Obama while taking great delight in tearing down Clinton. Mark this day in the history books when the best days of America have certainly passed us by. Welcome to Great Depression #2. Fools vote with a mob mentality.

Posted by: PDXEric | June 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Hillary should not meet with Obama. Should not endure any more insult from this man!
Right after Kennedy’s endorsement of him, Obama refused to shake hands with Hillary. Now what would he do with such “victory”?
As his supporters yelled at Hillary on the web many times:”Get out of the way, Hillary!” Or he would say:”Drop dead, Hillary!”

Posted by: nomore | June 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Oh, Hillary also lost because the rules committee penalized FL and MI and then Obama was able to stall the resolution until last week. She lost momentum and he gained it until Rev. Wright came about. Then the trend was going against him as all the last races, even the ones he won weren’t by the big margins they once were. He is a hardball, ambitious politician, but he doesn’t deserve to be President.

Posted by: susan | June 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

TODAY IS OUR DAY!
CONGRATULATION ALL DEM SUPPORTERS!!
WE WILL WIN IT ALL THE WAY TOGETHER!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: RC | June 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Susan,
I agree.
Money issue is the most important in this campaign also.
If he did not have that much money to spend he would be long gone.
He spent money just like water, one pundit said it.
Fortunately, he has those big donors.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

I agree this was her election to lose and she did
AMERICA
we are about to nominate the first african american and quite possibly the first african american president!!!
This is a defining moment in history that all americans should and will be proud of!
OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bhrandon | June 3, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Bob Beckel, Democratic analyst for Fox News, reported on TV already that a “bombshell” is coming out tomorrow
VIDEO BELOW. Here are written reports to date (and I will ADD MORE as they come in) — and I am adding the DEVASTATING electoral college projections up at HillBuzz that further underscore Obama’s unelectability. Obama is toast.

Posted by: DG in NC | June 3, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Hillary should not meet with Obama. Should not endure any more insult from this man!
Right after Kennedy’s endorsement of him, Obama refused to shake hands with Hillary. Now what would he do with such “victory”?
As his supporters yelled at Hillary on the web many times:”Get out of the way, Hillary!” Or he would say:”Drop dead, Hillary!”

Posted by: nomore | June 3, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Thanks to the MSM, Obama did not get vetted until well after Super Tuesday; although, I think more skeletons will be coming out of his closet between now and the GE. If the voting population knew about his questionable associations prior to Super Tuesday, the outcome of this nomination process would likely be different. In addition to having Obama shoved down our throats by the MSM, the DNC and Super Ds have shown remarkable favoritism toward Senator Obama; to the point of overruling the will of the people. The process for nominating the Democratic candidate has been anything but democratic.
As it is now, the majority of the blue-collar working-class voters, Independents, and Reagan Republicans that voted for Hillary, will now vote for McCain in the GE.
McCain ’08

Posted by: Virginia Independent | June 3, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

FOLKS – THIS IS BIG – SO BIG !
WE WORK OUR ASSES OFF “YES WE DID BECAUSE WE CAN” YES WE CAN”!
HUMANITY CHANGES, THE WORLD CHANGES, AMERICA CHANGES, “ALL FOR THE BEST”!
LET PEACE AND PROSPERITY RAINS! COME ON OVER SEN. CLINTON AND ALL YOUR SUPPORTERS WE HAVE WORK TO DO – WE HAVE TO TAKE ON THE GOP AND WIN FOR THE DEMOCRATS AND FOR AMERICA. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | June 3, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Hillary should not meet with Obama. Should not endure any more insult from this man!
Right after Kennedy’s endorsement of him, Obama refused to shake hands with Hillary. Now what would he do with such “victory”?
As his supporters yelled at Hillary on the web many times:”Get out of the way, Hillary!” Or he would say:”Drop dead, Hillary!”

Posted by: nomore | June 3, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Bob Beckel, Democratic analyst for Fox News, reported on TV already that a “bombshell” is coming out tomorrow
VIDEO BELOW. Here are written reports to date (and I will ADD MORE as they come in) — and I am adding the DEVASTATING electoral college projections up at HillBuzz that further underscore Obama’s unelectability. Obama is toast.

Posted by: DG in NC | June 3, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Susan- much the same can be said about Hillary Clinton. I live in Florida, and your assumptions are grossly negligent and off course.
Appealing to poor with fake gas relief, appealing to racist, and dodging sniper fire are what made Obama win.
Nothing less.
Half this country is ready to get over the old disgusting taboos in the closet. I am one of them. I would have voted for either Democrat to save my son from a draft and a woman’s right to choose.
NOTHING was stolen from Clinton, NOTHING. If the shoe were reversed months ago, the Clinton name alone would have ended this primary.
I congratulate Obama-
NO MCCAIN- EVER.

Posted by: Sally | June 3, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

I am asking every Hillary supporter to join me and donate $5 each for John McCain tonight!
This will be a very string message to Obama nd the stupid Democratic Party!
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Janet | June 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

its funny to see how many people on here are crazed…
i think some of them are true hillary supporters who are upset
but i think most are repubs hoping this wouldnt happen that the dems would ever start to come together
mccain better start running

Posted by: bhrandon | June 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Hillary Clinton supprters who hate Obama!
Please join me to make your donations for the next president of the United States of America John McCain!
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Janet | June 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

This is really the land of opportunity and equality. We had a white incompetent in the White House for 8 years, now it seems like a black incompetent is going to substitute him.

Posted by: 1Director | June 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Gergan on CNN said Obama needs help in this race…he’s not even going to win both these states tonight.
Some frontrunner..presumptive nominee.
God…I’m disliking Donna Brazille, but I get it…she’s black and so it goes.
That’s OK, I’m all American and so is Senator McCain! HILLARY SUPPORTERS VOTE McCAIN….THEY ARE CLOSER IN VALUES THAN OBAMA AND HILLARY…SCREW PARTY LOYALTY…PROMISES FROM POLITICIANS THAT NEVER MATERIALIZE.
Voters go with WHO THEY LIKE FIRST AND FOREMOST. I DON’T LIKE OBAMA. NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS SKIN COLOR.

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

OH! GOD HELP US!
AFTER ENDURING EIGHT YEARS OF COCKINESS AND ARROGANT SMIRD IN THE WHITE HOUSE, NOW WE HAVE TO ENDURE THE SAME THING IN THE DAYS TO COME?
WILL NEVER WATCH TV AGAIN!

Posted by: Oh! | June 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

And will everyone once and for all QUIT acting like McCain and Clinton don’t have an ARMY of skeletons in the graveyards…?
This whole Obama “skeleton” issue is stupid.
OOOhhhhh, if he has 4 dead skeletons, that somehow negates the fact that both the others could fill an entire graveyard.
Good luck with that argument.

Posted by: Sally | June 3, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Oh, Hillary did not lose; she won the popular vote and won the pledged delegates from all primaries. She had no chance of winning despite of all these because the Dem Party leaders did not want her. She could have never gotten the nomination because of the party leaders. Remember, even before Feb 5, Obama supporters started calling her to quit for the party unity. As soon as Obama had the lead in Feb., they were all over Hillary trying to push her out. They claimed so early and so many times that Obama was the nominee, which slowed down the fund raise for Hillary and discouraged people to continue to vote. See, it is all planned out by the party leaders and Obama campaign. Hillary never had the chance to win. It was the voters who really kept the whole process going, and gave Hillary the popular vote victory. The voters cannot control the party “rules” which were set to help Obama from the very beginning, but the voters can give Hillary the raw vote. Hillary is truly the people’s choice despite all!

Posted by: Jake | June 3, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

I was on the HRC staff for over a year,all across the country and I firmly believe the campaigns strategy was flawed from the beginning,during the primary season and had the WRONG people in top positions-ie:Mark Penn etc.-this could have and should have had a different outcome!!!!!!

Posted by: ziggy | June 3, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

I hope Hillary would be McCain’s VP.
That’s perfect!
I was a democrat and I will campaign for McCain .
If Obama can get voters with only “HOPE”, I believe McCain can make a change also if he listens to us.
All we need is to try to talk to McCain and support him.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Janet- if you have a son close to 18 years old, or respect any woman you know who still has reproductive organs, stop your angry venemous posts.
As a woman, your posts DISGUST me.

Posted by: Sally | June 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Well said Mr. Dowd.

Posted by: quickphil1943 | June 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Janet…great idea…I will go to McCain website and give $20. I am going to work in his campaign office here in Los Angeles in early Sept. I can’t wait to work for him 5 days a week. My house will have yard signs, red, white and blue ribbons all over, stickers on my car….GO McCAIN!!!!!
CNN just said Obama needs Hillary more than she needs him….who has the power now?

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

I always thought Mark Penn was working against Hillary for Obama!
he is the reason hillary lost so close!

Posted by: Mel | June 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Just think: We could have four more years of Clintons in the White House. I used to feel sorry for Hillary and Chelsea when the Monica, Flowers…stories broke, but now I realize Hillary was covering his butt to protect her political viability. Neither Clinton is capable of answering a question directly, spontaneously or truthfully. They look you in the eye, smile their toothy smile and, then, they’re off to the next lie.

Posted by: New Englander | June 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

To; s.b…How do those sour grapes taste?

Posted by: orange cat | June 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

OBAMA WON! REMEMBER JUST THE DEMOCRATS’ NOMINATION! THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOV? THAT IS ANOTHER MATTER.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE CELEBRATING LIKE A PACK OF RATS NOW. ALL THE JUICY STATEMENTS BY MICHELLE OBAMA WHICH WOULD MAKE HER FAMOUS ONE:”I AM PROUD OF AMERICA FOR THE FIRST TIME” PALED INTO NOTINGNESS AND ALL THE REZKO CONNECTIONS WITH OBAMA IN 25 YEARS WILL MAKE THE DEMOCRATS A BUNCH OF FOOLS AGAIN.
I REMEMBERED OBAMA’S SCARE TACTIS ABOUT HILLARY WHEN HE SAID THAT REPULICANS COULD DIG UP A LOAD OF DIRT ON HER.
OBAMA WAS PREDICTING WHAT REPUBLICANS WILL DO TO HIM NOW.
DEMOCRATS ARE NOT BRIGHT BUT THIS STUPID, AMAZING!

Posted by: fools | June 3, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

I have a son 16 years old!
I do not mind him to go to Iraq if he wishes to go!
I would have votedd for hillary but will never vote for Obama!
I’d rather being in Iraq 4 more years than living in a communist coutry under Obama admin!
Go McCain
Janet thanks for the link!
I just donated %10 for McCain!

Posted by: John | June 3, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

1. NY is Clinton’s “home state” and she would win it handily in November. The Hispanics and Orthodox Jews will NOT trust Obama.
2. A similar situation exists in Florida, and possible, California. And do not get me started on the South. ANY Dem primary victories there are utterly meaningless. This could be a McCain cakewalk (shivers)

Posted by: Thaddeus Buttmunch | June 3, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Write all the articles you want. Psycho Hillary fans will continue to defy logic and reason and cry about sexism.

Posted by: Josh N. | June 3, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

the author of this article sounds like a fairy

Posted by: FW | June 3, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Janet I ama Hillary supprter too,
Amy, NY
$10.44 for John McCain
Anyone wants to match my donation
Please go to,
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Amy | June 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Dowd is wrong on every point.
The DNC wanted it this way. Nancy Pelosi is determined to defeat Hillary Clinton. The DNC abandoned the center and lost the core that is going independent and/or voting for McCain.
The final analysis comes in November. My guess is it will be a post-mortem of a party that maneuvered to nominate the weaker candidate only to discover it did not own the issues.
Obama has not changed history. He has postponed it for a season.

Posted by: len | June 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

I enjoyed your article. If Obama is as smart as I think he is, he will not choose Clinton as a running mate.

Posted by: Bill Smith | June 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Clinton did an unbelievable job speaking to voters fears but she never crossed the bridge to speak to voters hopes.
—————————–
Bill Clinton said in his ’92 campaign, “If one guy is selling you fear and the other is offering hope, you should take the guy offering hope everytime.”
Perhaps he should have mentioned this to Hillary?
And it wans’t the MSM. The DNC dod nothing wrong. The ststem was in place well before the peimary started and they expected Hillary to win. The primary wasn’t “stolen”. Those are all just excuses for losing.
Obama received the majority of votes, the majority of pledged deleagtes, the majority of states won, and the majority of super delegates. That is the way a candidate has always been chosen. Stop with the “poor Hillary” nonsense. She simply got beat.

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Jake at 7:36 is dead on. This was determined from early on…she didn’t stand a chance…they wanted the black guy, who hadn’t been vetted yet. Too bad…the more we know, the more I smell the stink…and NO VP on the ticket will get this guy near the WH.
I do miss Michelle, Wright, Farrakhan, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and all the others who got the memo to lay low, stay underground until they clinch it, which will me momentarily.
Hope the freakshow comes back in the next couple of months. How long can people sit on these fools?

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

John-
Your points are insane.
Communist?
*Rollong on the floor laughing*
Some folks just aren’t worth debating, you buddy, (and Janet) may very well be one of them.
I’m off to celebrate-
Democrat in the WH-
democrat
democrat
democrat
McCain is HORRIBLE.

Posted by: Sally | June 3, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

People ,please pay attention on every blog starting today.
You already seen so many Obama supporters calling him as the first US black president .
Which I assume they only want to make a history.
I doubt it if they care about economy etc in this country.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

I just gave $20 for John McCain to honor Obama’s victory!
Any Hillary supporter out there to match my donation?
Dan MA
$20
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: dan | June 3, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

I was quite amused after reading the responses to this article. First, I am surprised that a full 75% of the responses have shockingly poor grammar and an even worse grasp of the English language. Of course, the majority of these are backers of Obama – the hip, young, seemingly uneducated new generation of voters. What has this country come to?
I was divided between Clinton and McCain before. Now, Hussein Obama has made the choice quite clear for me.

Posted by: David | June 3, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

I’d rather being in Iraq 4 more years than living in a communist coutry under Obama admin!
——————
Seriously funny stuff you guys write.
Can you be a little more overly dramatic?

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

i live in the northeast and i cant find anyone who will admit they support her. there are plenty of obama people of all demographics here, and a lot of mccain people also. many of the hispanics i know voted for obama. so you have to convince me that she had it in the bag. i think people underestimate how toxic the clinton name still is to many people. her flip flops didnt help either. and lets face it, obama represents the new america i belong to… its not mom or dads turn, its our turn. lets see where it all goes.

Posted by: stuart jacobson | June 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Mark, FL
$40
If it is NOT Hillary Go McCain!
Match my donation!
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Mark Zilbert, FL | June 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Dan, Amy, Janet….I just donated $20.44 to John McCain too. Let’s get the word out on every posting board we can….let the fundraising numbers for McCain this week be the best ever!
God, what a great message to send the press!

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

I’ll respect her decision, but that won’t save me from a huge disappointment if she ended up with the VP spot. I’d have no problem switching to support McCain, but with her in the mix, it will be a quandary for me.

Posted by: esvida | June 3, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Sad that the supposed “millions” of Hillary supporters who are now voting McCain are going to get beat twice in the same election.
Even sadder they’re motivated by hate and anger. Such a waste of energy.

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

“Ten Seasons Ten Kings” is the african proverb that says it all.
Adieu Clintons

Posted by: seyi o | June 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

If you have all the answers; then, why didn’t you run for the presidency yourself.

Posted by: Richard Dixon | June 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

take it the way it is, we R all americans, just get over it and accept what’s happening. DON’T GET SO MAD

Posted by: peewee | June 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Obama clearly won due to better campaign strategy. Simple as that. Obama did not win by a landslide nor does he have a mandate. He hasn’t carried or won the majority of his own party rather this is a party split right down the middle. So I don’t think the Democrats are in a position to be too overly confident about the general election. Certainly the economy and Iraq favor the Democrats but they have one pesky problem and that’s McCain. The GOP nominated probably the only candidate who could possibly win the White House in the current political environment. The Democrats should be way ahead of him in the polls and yet it’s been a virtual tie or he’s been slightly ahead. The Dems have nominated the candidate that does poorer when matched with McCain then Clinton does.
These next couple weeks the Dems will have the momentum and we should see a jump in the polls for the dems, if not there’s big trouble ahead.

Posted by: alpaig | June 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

My iPod crashed and burned half-way through the warranty and Apple wouldn’t send me a new one.
iPods also are not compatible with many common filetypes. MP3′s and MP4′s… how impressive…
Comparing Obama to an iPod is not something you want to do.

Hillary ’12

Posted by: Josh | June 3, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

If Barack was a white man a lot of u Hillary supporters would have accepted her defeat. Ur all upset not because a “man” won, but because it was a “black” man. Harriett Christian said it all at the meetn on Saturday. Let’s all come together for the country. Ur voices where heard, but ours was too. Hillary Clinton was not the only 1 on the ballot.

Posted by: Kristle | June 3, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Hillary could have one if writers like YOU would have stopped writing all good about Obama and negative about her!
It was the NEGATIVE PRESS that hurt Hillary!

Posted by: politicalone | June 3, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

“And will everyone once and for all QUIT acting like McCain and Clinton don’t have an ARMY of skeletons in the graveyards…?
This whole Obama “skeleton” issue is stupid.
OOOhhhhh, if he has 4 dead skeletons, that somehow negates the fact that both the others could fill an entire graveyard.
Good luck with that argument.”
Posted by: Sally | Jun 3, 2008 7:35:23 PM
Luck has nothing to do with it! Obama and his associates are perfecting the art of vetting his candidacy on their own. How many speed bumps are under the bus now? So….good luck with keeping the skeletons in the closet and off the Republican radar! Yep–good luck!
McCain ’08

Posted by: Virginia Independent | June 3, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Finally it is over! The next best move for Obama is to abandon Hillary and Bill as his VP. They are still poison plus he would waste so much time with the both of them. There are plenty of fine men and women that he can choose.
There is so much talk about Hillary supporters But don’t worry. This year will be Democratic no matter what anyone says.
It is time for CHANGE!

Posted by: jethro mayham | June 3, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

It does not matter who the President is.
We must and will attack Iran and Syria. We will use Iraq as a base for the next 20 or so years. We must wipe out these Islamic fanatics. The war will go no matter who is in the White House.

Posted by: John Klekota | June 3, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Debra,
If you are going to make statements such as”HILLARY SUPPORTERS VOTE McCAIN….THEY ARE CLOSER IN VALUES THAN OBAMA AND HILLARY”, can you please back them up with facts. I would like for you to name at least five issues that Clinton is closer to McCain on than Obama. Obama & Clinton have very similar views on pretty much every issue and their voting records in the senate are nearly identical. Please back up your statements.

Posted by: Brian | June 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

I’m sure as soon as Hillary concedes, her supporters will start back up McCain, campaign and donate money for his campaign.
My friend is a very loyal Democrat but a few days ago I was surprised when he said he would vote for McCain if Hillary lost.He was not happy with DNC.
I started to think something is really wrong with this election.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Blah blah blah — none of the reasons described here is true.
Democratic Voters in Blue states did give her the lead. So your theory that Dems wanted Mom and she gave dad BS is all wrong.
This is the first time around that RED STATES ( in February ) decided who will be the DEMS nominee in WH.
After March 4 – and PASTOR’s SHOW – YOUR FAVORITE OBAMA lost 80% of the states that he contested and Hillary won 80% of them.
Again that punchures your BS Claims.
I do not accept Hillary as the VP.
My vote will go to McCain – since I can not see a American Hater, Muslim in the White House. His wife triades against America and Whites is still to come out.
I hope at that point Hillary must distance herself from OBAMA and his Presidential Campaign – and withdraw from the race as a VP – if she is the one…
That would be revange taken of 9/11.
Inshallah!!!!

Posted by: Nimesh Dixit | June 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Th DNC ‘machine’ was not the hand on the ballot in the booth or in the caucuses. It was each and every voter. HRC supporters who are bashing the caucus States are not doing themselves any favors.
As a 67 year old White LOL, I would have liked a female President, but not solely because of gender. I was not ever a supporter of HRC because I could not find the experience and credentials on her very own two feet without the Clinton name recognition and the cooperative spirit.
Much older late 60′s women who have had to work know we made it with dignity and perseverance as feminists and ladies. We took courses and/or classes whenever possible to move ahead with steely determination which is far different from aggression. Our options were pretty limited to nurse, secretary or teacher if we had a certificate. But, I do think that Obama and Clinton need to heal wounds but playing hardball is not going to cut it with me.
Personally I think that Secy of Labor would be a perfect a cabinet position for HRC. Something definitely needs to be done about our labor situation in this Country! She would then be in a perfect position to review all those agreements wih her legal training and start revising them where necessary, creating new jobs, and be meeting overseas partners. More auto jobs just recently went to Mexico – Ford, I think, but please feel free to correct me on that one.
Also, on super delegates. It is my understanding that HRC already had about 100 of them even before this season began. They did not know then which way voters would go, but assumed. So, the arguments by those who insist that SD’s must endores the way of their voters is dead in the water from the get go since there was no denouncing or rejecting or whatever of endorsements before voting began.

Posted by: KiwiTricia | June 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Its obvious that many are afraid of CHANGE. Hillary showed us how well she can be a _itch on the attack. Obama causes many that are not ready for change, to be afraid. I wonder why? Is it because of the color of his skin? I’ll take my chances on Obama, a new voice, a new change, new wisdom, new hope, a new perspective, new direction and more. McCain at 71, is probably still having flashbacks from his time as a POW. At his age, he won’t be anything be a face and somebody else will be in charge. Go ahead, give it to the republicans. They’vE ALWAYS DONE
A SUPERB JOB. I rest my case.

Posted by: HAYDEN | June 3, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Obama and his henchmen will never win. I just donated $40.00 to McCain.
A former Democrat, now Independent that will pull the lever for John McCain in the fall and will actively campaign for him. You people are smokin crack if you think the Democractic party can unify after what the DNC and party so-called leaders did to Hillary. They were to wimpy to stand up for the stronger candidate!

Posted by: Lulu | June 3, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Endless articles have been written about what went wrong with the Hillary Clinton campaign. Numerous reasons have been given for how such a vaunted politician and equally-vaunted campaign could go so far off-track, including: her reliance on “inevitability”; her failure to plan and lay a ground game for caucuses and primaries in smaller states, particularly after Super Tuesday; her dependence on the old system of political fund-raising; her acceptance of donations from lobbyists; her inability to recognize and avoid that which makes her “untrustworthy”; her reliance on President Clinton; her open and entrenched distrust of the press; her inability to acknowledge her mistake in voting for the Iraq war; her inability to recognize the mood of a country yearning for an entirely new direction; her reliance on campaign advisers valued more for their loyalty than for their vision or their ability to get the job done; her inability to master the complicated rules required for acquiring as many pledged delegates as possible. In sum, Senator Clinton has wholly mismanaged her campaign for the Democratic nomination. And despite arguments to the contrary, athletic contests are deemed over well prior to the final buzzer by both the victor and the vanquished. One can often see both professional and college athletes vacating football fields and basketball courts prior to the final buzzer when the winning score is too far out of reach. But you don’t see those losing the basketball game then approaching the referees asking for all those 1-point free throws to now count as 3-pointers. By comparison alone, Senator Clinton’s mismanagement should make clear to everyone, whether black, white, male, female, gay, straight, Catholic, Protestant, liberal, conservative or centrist, or “other”, the Democratic nomination must go to the candidate who has been the most-prepared, the hardest-working, ready, willing and able to compete from buzzer to buzzer. The nominee should then be the person with an uncanny ability to gather around him those who are not only loyal, but sticklers for details, with the knowledge and skills required to get the job done.
Ultimately, it would appear Senator Clinton has fallen victim, not to misogyny and the misery of her gender as she and her supporters would like to suggest and have us believe, but to the arrogance of power, which as it happens . . . dare I say it? . . . befalls both men and women. Even more unexpected, however, is the sentiment from some women that they would vote for John McCain over Barack Obama, even though Clinton’s policies better mirror Obama’s policies than McCain’s. It appears these women simply want a woman, any woman, in the White House, and did not, and will not, exercise their right to vote based on their own independent judgment . . . the right to an intelligent vote for which their feminist forebears labored endlessly.

Posted by: tfseem | June 3, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

I won’t vote for Mccain.
Oh, the experience issue is going to be BS for me. not completely, but mostly.
We did have an “experienced” person in the office.
Look wtf happened.
And there is No way that Clinton will be thinking of being VP for Mccain. Smart move if she didn’t. If Bush is pushing for Mccain, I’m going the other way.

Posted by: Kirari | June 3, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

For the media to declare that Hillary Clinton has already lost, again, before the last polls are even closed, is just another slap in the face by the press to a candidate that fought an uphill battle throughout this entire campaign. What the media is saying to all the voters is, “You just stay home because you don’t matter and we’ll call the race because your delegates will vote any way they want without considering your input”. Let the race finish! Do we pull the racehorses off the track because the announcer feels that the horse closest to the finishline is the winner? NO…we let all of them finish and then we declare the victory. And the ridiculous comments about Bill Clinton being a Co-Vice President if Hillary should be “picked” as the Vice Presidental nominee, just shows the sexist thinking that still prevails insinuating that a woman can’t hold any kind of high position on her own. It’s an insult to both the Clintons and an even greater insult to the American public and woman everywhere. We’ve become a nation of “Paparazzi Reporting” where we shoot first and ask questions later! I am all for freedom of speech, but this “make up a story and make it sensational before the other guy sends it in to the editor” makes a mockery of all the responsible journalists that have come before us. We all need to speak out against this irresponsible tabloid journalism. We know how to figure things out without the press spelling it out for us. Please don’t insult our intelligence. Thank You.

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | June 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Oh Please. People like Jake, give it up. Do you really believe the conspiracy theories? Or that Obama won because of all his “large donors”. (1) It was Clinton that had all the large donors and unfortunately she tapped them out too early; Obama had many small donors that kept his campaign alive. (2) The DNC rules were the same rules that President Clinton won with. The reason that Senator Clinton didn’t win was that she thought she’d run away with it and didn’t organize enough to win primaries and smaller sates. (3) Senator Clinton only won the popular vote if you count states like Flordia and Michigan which, no matter who much you want to argue, were invalid primaries according to the DNC. All candidates knew that they didn’t count. If it was anyone but Clinton, then they still wouldn’t have counted but she had enough sway within the DNC to bear pressure on the DNC to allow the two states to come to the convention, albeit at a reduced count. (4) All of Obama voters are not young college students or “out of touch” with reality. I have bills just like everyone else and try to figure out how to pay them. A savings account — that is laughable; hopefully I’ll have one when the kids are all at of the house. (5) You count all the votes for Senator Clinton but forget to also admit that a large segment of the country (it is about 50%/50%) support Senator Obama — did you forget about the other part of the country? (6) Somehow if we don’t agree with Clinton supporters we are being mean and sexist. Can’t figure that one out!

Posted by: Mary | June 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

To, In the Words of Bubba:
Actually a lot of us are motivated by love of country and a desire to put substance over empty retoric and shallow style. A lot of us actually read the candiates books and researched their experience and see Obama for the empty suit he is. Change…change…change…what a bunch of garbage. Did the man once stand up to his minister – once tell William Ayers he was wrong, what a joke. I’ve been a proud Dem my entire life and am saddened to see my party hijacked by the far left and will look forward to your loss in the fall.
Dems for McCain

Posted by: oldspice | June 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

The Dems have nominated the candidate that does poorer when matched with McCain then Clinton does.
——————
Actually polls from this week indicate Obama is running better against McCain nationally.
McCain 47% Hillary 43%
McCain 46% Obama 46%
Your reading old polls. And it shows they mean nothing this far out from the GE.
However, I thought the rest of your blog was pretty much right on target. However, this McCain is not the McCain of 8 tears ago. Mr Maverick has become Mr GOP Suckup. He has flopped on at least a dozen policy positions.
Once the media actually starts paying attention to McCain, we’ll see his numbers drop. He’s had a free ride so far.

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Hillary Clinton did not squander the race; Obama won it by brilliantly outmaneuvering her at every step of the game. He and his team, the selection of which is also a reflection of his superior political capabilities, bested her and her team. He earned his victory inch by inch. Her took the prize from her. Give the man his due, for goodness sakes!

Posted by: Dickie | June 3, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

I am a black man who voted for a white woman not because she had bill but because she proved she can do the job. Now my second vote ever for President will go to John McCain. What people forget is that we repeating ourselves. We elected Bush…..a man with hardly no foreign policy experience. Yet he in 2000 would have more experience then. I’m sorry but I am up for voting Jimmy Carter 2!

Posted by: Sam Carter | June 3, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

St Paul smells Ni99er tonight!

Posted by: Adam, MN | June 3, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

If you really want to shake things up and make a difference………forget John McCain……he is just a puppet…..Republican/Democrat/they are all POLITICIANS…..pure and simple…….VOTE for Dr. Ron Paul………….and instead of laughing..go to RONPAUL.com and educate yourselves.
WAKE UP American………..!!! before it’s too late.

Posted by: Apathy-cure | June 3, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

St Paul smells Ni99er tonight!

Posted by: Adam, MN | June 3, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

I have never read so much hatred and bitterness in my life as I have read in these posts. Clinton LOST and Obama WON. Keep it simple because simplicity is the key to life. For those who are so upset that they will stay at home or not vote for Obama…GROW UP! How have you allowed so much negativity in your soul. No wonder Obama is winning…Everyone is sick of all the rhetoric and negativity of some of the other candidates and clearly that has rubbed off on some of you. Some of the best leaders that this world has ever known had little or no experience. God is over all and is largely in charge… Remember, the countries motto…In God we trust? Not Obama, Clinton, or any others. We’ll do just fine with any of these candidates in office. We always pull through…We are the “United” States of America. Even with the current blunders we have faced with the current administration, we’ll make a comeback. We always have…

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Soros money,Huffington Post rhetoric, Daily Kos rants – makes me want to vomit… The Democratic Party has fissioned, and it will never “unite” again. The party literally went insane, and allowed its ‘cultural pluralist’ Marxist wing to dominate.
A lesser fissioning took place among Republicans, since legitimate conservatives were pushed aside.
Perhaps a viable conservative party, composed of disgruntled Dems and Reps, could be formed to confront the socialists.
Meanwhile a power elite manipulating monetary policies snickers behind the scenes.

Posted by: Malcolm | June 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

wow! typical white american excuses!so many of you are making excuses for hrc and not really giving the winner his props.most of you sound very stupid when you talk about voting for a 70 yr old president who wants to fight for 100 years.have you not gone to the gas pump lately?this is the fickle nation that america has become.we are putting our personal feelings in front of whats best for the country.punishing obama for hrc mistakes.sad!! since when did a black man become the preferred choice of mainstream govt?when did this transformation take place?hrc is nothing more than gwb.arrogant and selfish.everthing is about them and no one else.hrc don’t care about nothing and nobody but women and power.grow up democrats.this is why the republicans have a mental edge on us every election.we are just to emotional and irratonal.TYPICAL WHITE AMERICA-EXCUSES ALL THE TIME!!

Posted by: corey | June 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

To my previous comment, a correction: That’s WOMEN everywhere. Thanks Again.

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | June 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

“Hillary ’12″ ??
Four years from now it will be “Hillary who?”
Hillary showed me she couldn’t handle things: Her campaign for the presumptive nomination; Bill’s temper; her voting record; recollections of actual events and more!
Hillary who?

Posted by: New Englander | June 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Did the man once stand up to his minister – once tell William Ayers he was wrong, what a joke.
——————
The joke is you associate Hillary Clinton with “love of country”.
Did Hillary stand up to her husband when he pardoned two of the Weather Underground? No, she just tried to take credit for everything good HE did.
But, be angry and bitter and cling to your candidate if you chose.

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

If Barack was a white man a lot of u Hillary supporters would have accepted her defeat. Ur all upset not because a “man” won, but because it was a “black” man. Harriett Christian said it all at the meetn on Saturday. Let’s all come together for the country. Ur voices where heard, but ours was too. Hillary Clinton was not the only 1 on the ballot.
SERIOUSLY? I love when someone does not support your candidate that it’s the race game. It about experience and competency, and someone who knows the inside and out of policy and how to turn this economy around. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with a bunch of college students who don’t pay attention to real world problems getting on the bandwagon for a rock star. Duh. America has become such an E! society that it no longer actually researches anything, just buys the 30 second soundbytes and the hoopla instead of substance. Purely pathetic.

Posted by: PDXEric | June 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

LA PRESIDENCIA CONYUGAL NO FUNCIONA. USTEDES SUPIERON EVITARLA A TIEMPO. NOSOTROS EN ARGENTINA NO. USTEDES ELIGIERON LO NUEVO Y LO FRESCO. FELICITACIONES. OJALA OBAMA PUEDA.

Posted by: Adrienne | June 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Stolen! That’s how!
That’s now 3 times in the last 3 elections I have had my candidate robbed of the whitehouse!
When will it end!?!
I vow to return the favor this year and vote against Obama in November! And no, I don’t care if that puts McCain the Moderate in the whitehouse!

Posted by: Krissy K | June 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

You know I am really surprised at you so called democrats. I can’t understand why you would be so discriminatory and hostile toward a man who wants to turn this WORLD around? It is sickening!!!! The only problem you have with Obama is that he is a black man, had he been white, this would have been over a LONG time ago. You are afraid that what has happened in the past will come back to bite you, and bite you hard! You shouldn’t be though…. In a time where people are out of work, starving, can’t afford gas, daycare, housing, and are basically impoverished, pettiness can’t be pushed aside to better this world for you and the ones to come after you. ABSOLUTELY astonishing. My husband just came back from Iraq, thank GOD, and just because he’s home doesn’t mean that he is okay. I have to deal with his depression, flashbacks, everything. I am more than sure if one of your loved ones where there you would want someone who could talked to the Iraqis and protect OUR men and women. All this ignorance and fear of something different is absolutley insane especially with all the mess that is going on here in America and ALL over the world. If you so called democrats want to vote for Little Bush you go ahead, but it’s not going to make a difference. “What God has for you it is for you”, REMEMBER THAT!!!!
OBAMA ’08- NOW WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Amber | June 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

You know I am really surprised at you so called democrats. I can’t understand why you would be so discriminatory and hostile toward a man who wants to turn this WORLD around? It is sickening!!!! The only problem you have with Obama is that he is a black man, had he been white, this would have been over a LONG time ago. You are afraid that what has happened in the past will come back to bite you, and bite you hard! You shouldn’t be though…. In a time where people are out of work, starving, can’t afford gas, daycare, housing, and are basically impoverished, pettiness can’t be pushed aside to better this world for you and the ones to come after you. ABSOLUTELY astonishing. My husband just came back from Iraq, thank GOD, and just because he’s home doesn’t mean that he is okay. I have to deal with his depression, flashbacks, everything. I am more than sure if one of your loved ones where there you would want someone who could talked to the Iraqis and protect OUR men and women. All this ignorance and fear of something different is absolutley insane especially with all the mess that is going on here in America and ALL over the world. If you so called democrats want to vote for Little Bush you go ahead, but it’s not going to make a difference. “What God has for you it is for you”, REMEMBER THAT!!!!
OBAMA ’08- NOW WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Amber | June 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

here is my %100
Keith, MN
GO MCCAIN 2008
HILLary 2012
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Keith | June 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Obama is a product of media hype. These people who raised him to his pedestal today will be the first one to trounce him once he is in Office. “Hats-off” to Hillary Clinton who did a “herculean task” to counter the media maneuver but fail. After all is said and done, come November, Let’s see if Clinton Democrats will vote for him. This will be fun!

Posted by: rayray | June 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Hillary wanted us to vote for her based on her experience, superior judgement, and ability to manage and lead big things.
Her experience? She voted for the Iraq war. She supported NAFTA. She developed an unworkable national health care plan while Bill was in the white house. Then having the audacity to put out the ad campaign about who do you want to pick up the phone when the cow patty hits the fan. I wouldn’t want the person who made the kind of mistakes in judgement she did.
Her superior judgement? Planning on the campaign being over on the first Super Tuesday and figuring everyone wold fold just because she was Hillary and she was “In it to Win it!” Oopsie yet again. No funding in place, no organization in place, no plan to deal with setbacks until way too late. Flip flopping on Michigan and Florida delegations – Stating that a punishment had to be made, otherwise the process would become meaningless after the elections in those states, then suddenly “MAKE EVERY VOTE COUNT!” became her rallying cry once Obama reeled off 11 straight primary wins and she felt the water coming up through the bottom of her ship of state to be. Abandoning basic principles for polical expedience in such a blatant and hypocritical manner. Good Judgement? More like sample the feelings of the moment and run that way. Not what I want to see in a President (or Vice President for that matter).
Her ability to manage a large, complex organization and lead big things? Hillary couldn’t even manage her own campaign for President – running out of money, having to loan herself 11 million dollars at the same time she calls Obama an elitist. Misreading what the american people were looking for almost from day one, until way too late to have an effect and all the time crying – OBAMA SUCKS, instead of “HERE’S MY GOALS FOR AMERICA AN MY PLAN TO MAKE THINGS BETTER! Why would I think she could manage the country any better if she can’t even handle the means of getting the nomination for the Democratic Party.
Yes, Hillary fought a hard campaign. But it was a devisive campaign, a negative campaign, a no holds barred and screw the world because I deserve to be President, dammit, no matter what it takes. If we want that kind of president, all we have to do is look in the White House today and see where that got us.
Thank God she lost.

Posted by: Bob Z | June 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

here is my $100
Keith, MN
match my donation now
GO MCCAIN 2008
HILLARY 2012
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Keith | June 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

all hilary supporters pls give our votes to mc cain………… Obama 4get it i rather give my vote to republican.

Posted by: waks | June 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Adam…what’s going on? Can’t make sentences work and have to get ugly?

Posted by: New Englander | June 3, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

They just said because he left the church this past weekend has not stopped the bleeding.
Show me who you are with and I’ll tell you who you are….even if you kick Farrakhan to the curb (too late), kick old uncle Rev. Wright to the curb (too late), kicked the wicked Trinity church to the curb (too late), kicked Father Pfleger to the curb (too late)….WHEN DO YOU KICK MICHELLE TO THE CURB….OOOPS – TOO LATE.
HELLO PRESIDENT JOHN McCAIN OUR 44th PRESIDENT.
EDUCATE YOURSELVES PEOPLE, ABOUT THIS TRUE AMERICAN HERO.

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

The Dem primary was close and historic, a black person and a female. The world will take notice and America can be proud. The Republicans have let down the country and brought misery to a majority of Americans leaving behind a terrible mess for the Dems to clean up. It’s going to be nasty. McCain is a shadow of Bush and a continuation of the same failed policies of Iraq and the economy. An anonymous Dem would have been able to beat Mccain. All Hillary backers should realize that in a race someone wins and someone loses. Hillary tried to bend the rules whenever it suited her. I feel sorry for her especially the dogged manner in which she continued her struggle for survival. And after denouncing Obama on several occasions now she wants to his Veep! Good luck. Nothing wrong being a good senator. And if you want to vote for mccain because Hillary did not get the nomination go right ahead what will you prove? You lose twice.

Posted by: Denny Srivastava | June 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

This is a shame. Some of you would rather America suffer at the hands of MCCAIN. Once he is in office nothing will change he and Bush are on the same page when it comes to everything. You vote for MCCAIN if you want to and i bet you that AMERICA will suffer more then it already has thanks to Bush. It’s sad because to some of you its a big race issue. Hate to see a black man in the white house, well you know what I look past race and look at creditials.. Its time for a change. Not the same old garbage we’ve been getting with these Republicans. They can care less about gas prices heck they can afford it. Heck the bush’s own oil refinerys did you’ll know that??? Exactly lets look at the bigger picture and thats ” A CHANGE FOR BETTER.”
You all can do your little sad votes for MCCAIN but in the end you will face reality and see in MCCAIN there is no change….

Posted by: amber | June 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Proudelibrul:I would remind you that obama gave that one speech when his opinion had very little actual consequences.Since he has become a senator where his opinion actually matters where has he been.Constantly voting against timetables for removal of troops.Voting for funding the war.When John Murtha gave his speech calling for an immediate pullout of American troops obama asked his opinion by the chicago Tribune his response”I’m not a military man.I’m not running the war.”When sen.Kerrry and feingold pushed for a bill to set a timetable for the removal of troops from Iraq he voted no.It is only since he started running for president that he has found his renewed opposition to the war.

Posted by: jim | June 3, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

The American people are fed up of the old guards specially when the princess is trying to replace the king because the price we have paid with the Bush dynasty is high.

Posted by: Makonnen | June 3, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

BOB Z…..GREAT POST!

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

Mr Dowd said Dems want a mother instead of strength father.
I thought after 9/11 we need a stronger candidate not a feminine one.
So,,in the other word Obama is FEMININE?
Hillary is the perfect one , she is a mother and she is strong as a father.

Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Well, I’m just relieved that the Clintons will not be back in white house anytime soon. I hope Obama is not even thinking of asking her to be VP. I don’t trust their characters.

Posted by: dcc | June 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

I think I might vote for Alfred E. Neuman for preident. Hardly anyone remembers who he is so they can’t run him down regardless of his party affiliation.Probably would be the best choice for everyone. How ’bout a writein for him?

Posted by: ron | June 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

The reason why Obama is winning is because the DNC bigwigs i.e. Kerry,Kennedy,Carter etc will be the puppetmasters who will control Obama. These bigwigs cannot control Hillary because they know she won’t back down. Barack H. Obama is their “boy” Wake up Democrats!

Posted by: Ron Banzuela | June 3, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Bob Z…Awesome post!

Posted by: New Englander | June 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Also –Hillary turned off a lot of people like me by running a very negative campaign –getting on every political bandwagon –and saying and doing anything just to get votes –she lost all credibility and respect and now she wants the vp spot ???

Posted by: Anna | June 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

George Bush was so bad…and the country is so frustrated at this time…that no one right now that resembles anything we elected in the past can remove the nation’s displeasure with everyone in the current administration. Barack won the nomination and will win the presidency because he resembles a complete change in direction and a breath of fresh air. Bush has closed the book on his party and every president that led up to his election. A new era is beginning with Barack and we all hope it will be a good one.

Posted by: Realist | June 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

HILARY LOST BECAUSE SHE IS A MONSTER!!!
AMERICAN PEOPLE DONT WANT MONSTERS AROUND!!!

Posted by: Hilary supporter | June 3, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Instead of sending $10 to McCain, send it to Hillary. She should pay back all those “hard working white” Americans she’s stiffed for several months now.
If you really like her, you should feel honored to pay her debt.

Posted by: In the words of Bubba | June 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

We are doomed.

Posted by: We are so done | June 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Hi I would like to say congrats to both of these canadites because they both did a great job (despite what some may say or feel). From when Obama really got into the race I was torn between both of them because I felt both of them could do such a great job in the White House. One issue that I had with both of these canadites was personal bias that I had toward both of them. For Obama being a “young African-American” I wanted to support him but at the same time with Hillary I saw Bill along for the ride(which to me isn’t a bad thing, when he was in the White House life was good, then when Bush was in office, well you know the story…). I didn’t vote in the primaries in my state because I didn’t want any of the bias to cloud my judgement (to me bias feelings toward BOTH canadites help feuled negative views of the voters toward the other). I wanted to see Hillary as Hillary (and not as Bill’s wife)and Obama as Obama (not just a “black man”). So I decided not to let the media sway me (like it does so many times in so many ways) and to let the race play out and in its end I would support the winner because I know that both of them can do an excellent job in office. Since it seems Obama is going to be the nominee I will throw my support behind him. As for Mrs. Clinton I see a V and a P in her future. To beat the Republicans the Democrats need to come together (there’s more of us than them, I think lol). Anyway I hope that all wounds heal and a ticket of Unity can be formed.
Democrats United 08 Obama/Clinton

Posted by: Cedric | June 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

amber
You are overlooking one little detail about Hillary supporters.
We are NOT ignorant to fall for your fear mongering!
The Obamanation has been spamming up the internet trying to claim how those two are the same. HA! Ever seen McCain? He is a, better sit down hon, a MODERATE! A maverick! As he is known within his party.
The cons are so ticked that they vow not to vote for him. He’s too LIBERAL!
Another little tip. Before you start these scare tactics, make sure you do it before Lieberman endorses him. Not after. It doesn’t help your cause!

Posted by: Krissy K | June 3, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Hillary couldn’t even manage the money it took to run this campaign..why should anyone trust her to get us outta a crisis…this woman clearly thought that she could win by means other then her won merit…today everyone is looking for change and Obama is just that…If democrats walk because Clinton lost you are a fool who will watch this country continue to spiral into a living hell…if thats what you really want go ahead..but truth be told..Republicans are killing our kids and pockets slowly..I just for once would like to say I’m proud to be an American…lets see what happens..I’m almost there…OBAMA IN 08…IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE…CHANGE IS EVERYTHING

Posted by: Tammy | June 3, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

If you are reading this, Senator Obama…..Please DO NOT pick HER as your VP!!!!

Posted by: Diane | June 3, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

HILARY SHOULD NOT BE VP.
I DONT TRUST WHAT SHE WILL DO AT 3AM.
HE BETTER WATCH OUT FOR HIS LIFE IF SHE IS THE VP.

Posted by: Bill supporter | June 3, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

To Matthew…I think you’ve hit the nail right on the head in your short list. Added to the rest is, at least, one important factor; Hillary underestimated Barack Obama’s strengths, albeit a novice in the major arena. I believe that little consideration was given to the fact that this is also the first black man running for the office. No matter what the Clinton’s political strengths were in the black community am I incorrect in extrapolating that the community would much rather see a member of the same ethnicity take the reins in this election of firsts? The campaign presumed and assumed too much in these areas, I think!

Posted by: Chris B | June 3, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

“You know I am really surprised at you so called democrats. I can’t understand why you would be so discriminatory and hostile toward a man who wants to turn this WORLD around? It is sickening!!!! The only problem you have with Obama is that he is a black man, had he been white, this would have been over a LONG time ago….. ”
Posted by: Amber | Jun 3, 2008 8:08:37 PM
I find it increasingly tiresome when Obama supporters continually play the race card when anyone questions or express a differing opinion about their candidate. My opinion is that Obama is a junior Senator; with a lackluster Senatorial record with very little legislation to define how he would measure as the President, he has no foreign policy or economic experience, and he has displayed questionable judgement in his relationships. So, please do not play the race card, as some of us have formed opinions that are not based on race.
McCain ’08

Posted by: Virginia Independent | June 3, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Stop whinning! She lost b/c she overestimated herself & underestimated Obama. He suprisingly ran an excellent campaign and simply out strategized her.
He followed the DNC rules including not counting FL & MI. She agreed not to count FL & MI when she was far ahead & thought she would rap it up on Super Tues. It wasn’t until she fell so far behind that she suddenly became an advocate “to count every vote.”
This campaign confirms she will triangulate anything to win (i.e., Bosnia sniper, anti-NAFTA, gas tax holiday, race bait: “hard working white people”).
But, mostly people are just tired of the Clintons. Go away now. They blame everyone else for their losses (right wing conspiracy/media conspiracy).
Who says she is the better candidate in the general. She ran a shoddy, broke ass campaign and lost to an unknown black man with an Arabic name so she can’t be that strong of a candidate.
Give Obama his props! For those Dems who are bitter enough to vote for McCain – good riddence. You’ll get what you deserve with another Repub admin & war in Iraq for 100 yrs.

Posted by: Aaron | June 3, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

I agree with you 110%. This is a race Hillary could have easily won only if uncommited delegates and super delegates were not pressured to decide their votes, even with Hillary winning during the last primary elections….Obama is a good speaker,true.. but words without actions are meaningless. Let’s see how he will deal with foreign policies..with foreign countries, without the experience that McCain or Hillary has. On the other hand, it was not meant to be for Hillary to win this time, God must have other plans for her and I truly believe that…100…I mean 110%…GOOD JOB HILLARY!!!!!!KEEP up that energy…

Posted by: ev | June 3, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

I love how everybody thinks it’s so bad…McCain would continue down same path. McCain is not Bush…do you all have computers, cell phones, HD tvs, food on the table (albeit a little costlier)…other than gas prices, really what the f is so poor about our quality of life?
Obama’s promises equals raised taxes, folks….who wants to pay my share?

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Why is it that Barack Obama has problem with white working class Americans? Studies show that working class whites, tend to be more uneducated, and a bt more racist. Thats why many of these votes would prefer McCain over Obama. They’d prefer a republican who does not share their views and hopes over a black man who does. (And I am a working class white man w/o a college degree)

Posted by: Kyle | June 3, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Ding dong. The witch is dead. Good luck bein’ keepin’ the spite and negativity alive right into the election you bitter old Clinton supporters. The ship has sunk. The plane has crashed. In a couple of months, you’ll be rallying behind the Dems when you realize what voting Rep reallymeans–like children you are still so focused on your sense of being wronged that you are incapable of seeing what’s really right. Well? Grow up. Fast.

Posted by: Sean | June 3, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

INSTEAD OF THE SUPREME COURT, DNC IS THE KING MAKER THIS ROUND. If DNC HAS ADHERED TO DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES AND ALL FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN VOTES WERE COUNTED, WOULD ALL THE ANNOYNING OBAMANITES GLOATING ABOUT THEIR HOLLOW VICTORY HERE NOW?
TO THE SMALL AND DISHONEST MEN, WINNING IS EVERYTHING REGARDLESS OF ANY PRINCIPLES.
WE ARE SWARMED WITH SMALL MEN WITH BIG ATTITUDE.

Posted by: notsmall | June 3, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

I agree with you 110%. This is a race Hillary could have easily won only if uncommited delegates and super delegates were not pressured to decide their votes, even with Hillary winning during the last primary elections….Obama is a good speaker,true.. but words without actions are meaningless. Let’s see how he will deal with foreign policies..with foreign countries, without the experience that McCain or Hillary has. On the other hand, it was not meant to be for Hillary to win this time, God must have other plans for her and I truly believe that…100…I mean 110%…GOOD JOB HILLARY!!!!!!KEEP up that energy…I will voting for the other party…unless Hillary is on the VP ticket…

Posted by: ev | June 3, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

putting everything else aside, there is one thing that the democratic party overlooked. there are many of us who are terrified to have obama in office. many votes that would have been democrat will now swing republcan. so obama makes it to the election,,,whipi ding…thats as far as he will make it

Posted by: erica | June 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Thank you Virginia Independent, my sentiments exactly…it really gets old to keep hearing racism if you don’t trust Obama. I wish he was purple.

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

all those Hillary supporters, who are donating money to MCcain and promising to vote for him, you are the reason Clinton lost, supporters who do not even understand her stance and policies, blind, illiterate, ignorant, probably mostly racist, emotionally imbalanced. If you guys had a clue about what Clinton has spent all these months preaching, you would not dare say you would vote for MCcain. It is very sad when you dont even understand yourself. you guys are the reason why she lost, too much negative energy coming from you guys. I encourage you to donate all your life savings to MCcain and wait for November Obama will be voted by the Majority of Clinton supporters who have been listening to her, who decided to choose her because her ideas were good and promising not because of race, gender, and ignorance. so go on donate more money to MCcain and wait and see who will be the looser. you are sad now and you will be sad after the general election all because of ignorance, go to Clintons website and read about her policies and see how similar Clinton and Obama really are. get informed.

Posted by: pete | June 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

All of this talk about Hillary winning the popular vote. I just googled the tally for all primaries, and found that Obama has 54,000+ more poular votes, not counting Montana and South Dakota’s vote, where the polls are about to close. Hillary’s people proved that if you repeat the same lie over and over “we won the popular vote”, people will believe it. The same tactic brought the Nazis to power in the 30′s.

Posted by: Dan | June 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Hillary is a stain. If the Clinton’s weren’t around, Gore & Kerry would have won. Be gone!

Posted by: DS | June 3, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

People have watched the interesting presidential election campaigns opening between Democrats and Republicans; of course, there have been conflicts political arguments that generate the nature of political debates.
The Democrat super delegates have challenged the presidential candidates: consistently, patiently and determination together with their wisdom. Obama is very extraordinary player on the basket ball contest. He knows himself when to beat and when running.
On the other hand, Hillary Clinton has proved her honest and truthful of the tennis player but her wisdom that make audiences love her style. She has had big “hurrah” in the contest. Finally, she got a trophy from difficult characteristic and unconvinced super delegates.
Technically, communication signaled when Obama quoted, “Senator Hillary Clinton is the great asset of Democrat Party, and conceded her victory in Puerto Rico on Sunday 1st, 2008. In turn, Clinton said, “Senator Obama has a narrow lead in delegates. And we are going have to make our case to the automatic so-called super delegates,” she added, “I think my case is clear; more than 17 million people voted for me. In recent primary history, we have never nominated someone who has not won the popular vote.”
Wow!!What do people see this phenomenon of people feelings? They do want to have change totally of this administration. Both Clinton and Obama have gotten more votes than any presidential campaign in primary history. Certainly this time, Democrat Party will win the White House. A 44th Democratic President of the United States of America-The woman President in America history, a new historic page will soon be turned to Democrat era.
Please help Senator Hillary Clinton by giving you gift $100,$75,$50,$35, $25 $10 or $5 today and invite your friends who would like to give their contribution with a good cause. You make your donation on the secure website at: http://www.hillaryclinton.com or make your personal check payable to:
Hillary Clinton for President,
P.O. Box 1781
Merrifield, VA 2216-9956

Posted by: James B Pham | June 3, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

i am a southerner, obama will not win one southern state. lets see him win in that case.

Posted by: ron | June 3, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

I agree with you 110%. This is a race Hillary could have easily won only if uncommited delegates and super delegates were not pressured to decide their votes, even with Hillary winning during the last primary elections….Obama is a good speaker,true.. but words without actions are meaningless. Let’s see how he will deal with foreign policies..with foreign countries, without the experience that McCain or Hillary has. On the other hand, it was not meant to be for Hillary to win this time, GOD must have other plans for her and I truly believe that…100…I mean 110%…GOOD JOB HILLARY!!!!!!KEEP up that energy…I will voting for the other party…unless Hillary is on the VP ticket…

Posted by: ev | June 3, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

God have better plan for United States that was his reason of chosen Obama to be
Democrat nominee.
Whom God has blessed no one can go against him/her.
Some people might think with out their vote or fund Obama cannot get to white house
However, God has destined him to be there.
May God bless people of United States …………………………………………….
You people have denied me visa to united state but it cannot stop me blessing the country.
Evg.Charles…hasankuba@yahoo.com

Posted by: Charles | June 3, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

Congratulation Obama!
Thank you Hillary!
The nomination is over and it is time to fold. You either want 4 more years of $4.00 gas, Iraq war, potential Iran war, Home foreclosure, job export, etc or CHANGE.
Bill never passed any landmark law, Hillary is polarizing and would give Republican fodder for attack and win!
Obama, even force McCain to try to claim change…eeewww!
Hillary for Secretarial job, NOT Vice Presidential post.
Remember, you starved Al Gore and will likely extinguish Obama in White House.

Posted by: tete | June 3, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

INSTEAD OF THE SUPREME COURT, DNC IS THE KING MAKER THIS ROUND.
IF ALL THE VOTES IN M AND F ARE COUNTED ARE THEY SHOULD, THE RESULT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THIS ROUND FROM THE BUSH-GORE ROUND? NOTHING!

Posted by: notsmall | June 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

the far left has hijacked the party and nominated another mcgovern, dukakis, kerry. you lose. mccain wins. get used to four more years….

Posted by: ron | June 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

whitewomanind-
You are a self-hating, ignorant obnoxious thing- how dare you reduce someone who has the record and intellegence as well as 18 million American votes, including mine- and I am a lifelong ultraliberal and activist within the party- to a “witch”. You know nothing about Obama but are willing to vote for him based on hatred of the better candidate- you disgust me.
Leon

Posted by: NYC LEON | June 3, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

and obama is a racist. his pastor is; his wife is; bye bye obama.

Posted by: ron | June 3, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

re debra and janet, fools and john, you all are just plain stupid. if you are going to vote for mcbush simply because you do not like Obama ie your perogative but also think about that when you consider that he said he will nominate supremem court justices that are conservative ..take away a womans right to choose, continue with bush;s failed policies, if you cant vote for obama cos of his race and you try to couch it in the election was stolen from hilary then you are not a true democrat anyway. it is so amazing to me how petty and illitrate you all fanatic hilarians are…oh go to mccain and suffer the consequences if he wins…as for mi and florida , if you do not know anything about rules then shut up. Hilary was fine with the rulles till she needed fl and mi then she became a champion for every vote to count….i guess you are too old for change go ahead go vote for mcbush and while you are at it you do not think Hilary and mccain have skeletons in their cupboard, the fact that hilary;s pastor was accused of child molestation, does that mean that hilary subscribes to child molestation…my parents attend church where the pastor preches that katrina and tsunami was the will of God for sinners, does that mean that my parents subscribe to that,– by the way they will vote for obama too, they were going to vote for any democrat that wins the nomination — rhetoric,,,,have you heard the rhetoric of hagee et all…is that mcbushes mindset too, stick to actual fact while making your donations to mcbush…..you all are so crazy and small minded it is mindboggling

Posted by: osisi | June 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

It is a shame that any woman would say that she would vote for McCain over the candidate of her own party.
If McCain wins because of bitter Clinton supporters then you can kiss Roe v Wade good-bye. McCain will have it overturned and set women back for years.
Just think about it………..

Posted by: roxsbaby | June 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

congratulations to Democratic party and also to Hilary and Obama. i think american people should just accept the verdict of the just concluded primaries that gave the nomination to Obama.white or black we are the same before God.people should stop attacking obama because he is black and show to the world that America is not a racist country.God bless America.

Posted by: andy olufemi | June 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

The one thing that people miss in this assessment is the strategy that Obama brought to the table. I was for Hill at the beginning, but what led me to Obama were his organizational skills, innnovative and creative thinking. These are key skills the next commander in chief will need for the problems of the 21st century. In fact as the primaries wore on, the republicans remind me of the 19th century while Hill was atrictly 20th century. We need a 21st century person running this country!! I’m for the “O” man all the way!!

Posted by: donald | June 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

To all the people who say they will vote for McCain over Obama…You’re a moron! Again, you’re blaming the wrong person for Hillary’s demise. She ran a poor campaign…period! If you are thinking about voting for McCain remember this. McCain will continue the war in Iraq. The blood of more soldiers will be on your hands! He knows nothing about the economy! The US will be in a bad place. I wish we had a memorial called the “Wall of Stupidity” with everyone’s name on it who voted for both Bush and now mcCain.

Posted by: John Doe | June 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

When all you Clinton supporters that are now voting for McCain get through whining like some little pathetic bigoted losers remember that you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for not being honest enough to admit that you would rather vote republican than to see a black man in the White House! Get past color you MORONS and get on board. I am so sorry that your worse nightmare came true, but your next president will be a black man rather you vote for Obama or not!

Posted by: DON'T HATE!!!!! | June 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

I am wondering if Barack Obama had been a white man or if this had been John Edwards whom I think would also be a wonderful veep would most of these bloggers say the nomination was handed to him. If you want another four years of Bush Politics then cross the party lines and vote for McCain well I have decided I am crossing the party line and voting for Barrack Obama I would have done the same had Hillary won. There is so much subliminal underlying prejudice here its ridiculous what if were the other way around would you say Hillary had the nomination handed to her probably so and probably would have said its because she is a woman people get over your selves give Barrack a chance or are you afraid of a black man being in power in the world’s most powerful country

Posted by: soulangel | June 3, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

When the big biz finds a better salesman for their agenda, guess who will win?
Obama can sell a mango tree to the Mexicans and an igloo to the Eskimos, why should we be surprised that he was chosen?
One he has been chosen, the media which is the handmaiden to the big biz, just have to toot the horn for this phony.
No one has a snow flake’s chance no matter how good her programs are and how earnestly she is for the middle class and poor.

Posted by: salesman | June 3, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

OMG!!! I can’t believe a true democrat would switch to McCain. There must be some other underlying reason for such a dramatic switch (hummm). Hilary was not a good candidate. She and hubby has done too much dirt against this country. Why are you Hilary supporter so against Obama? I here you say he doesn’t have experience…neither did many other presidents who surround themselves with a-d-v-i-s-o-r-s. Heck what could Bush boast about…being a cheerleader? Obama has done nothing wrong to encourage your intense hatred. My God, give the man a chance. I’m sure he will do a better job than Bush oops I mean McCain.

Posted by: ROCK | June 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

white woman ind voter: You need to go back to school and get educated on how to word sentences. Hillary didn’t say she wanted the VP she said she was open to it. The Obama campaigners are the worst ignorant people ever running a campaign for a candidate. They think they own Obama trying to make decisions for him. Can’t he make his own decisions since he graduated college. How could he make important decisions as president. What a mess.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

McCain for President!!
Go for it!!!!!
Former Hillary Supporter

Posted by: GerogeChriss | June 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

white woman ind voter: You need to go back to school and get educated on how to word sentences. Hillary didn’t say she wanted the VP she said she was open to it. The Obama campaigners are the worst ignorant people ever running a campaign for a candidate. They think they own Obama trying to make decisions for him. Can’t he make his own decisions since he graduated college. How could he make important decisions as president. What a mess.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

She could still win if she pays hardball…declare to the superdelagates she will run as an independent and therefore dems would lose or select Her…

Posted by: Edward | June 3, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

hillary is / was the deciding factor in this campaign for the white house
without her obama will lose the presidency
she could have beat mccain herself but obama cannot and will not

Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | June 3, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

i am so glad that it is finally over/ pls put behind all the bitterness/ differences/ we saw in this long process/go obama/ pls don’t disappoint your supporters/ god bless america/ that’s more what america needs now

Posted by: shereen | June 3, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Hypocrisy! Politics as usual. Hillary has told us that Obama is not experienced, cannot lead, isn’t good for the country, should not win, is worse than McCain, is wrong on issues, etc., etc., etc.
Now she wants to be his VP and tell the world that he is experienced, can lead, is good for the country, (well, you get the point.)
A lot of people can call that politics or whatever. But, Hillary is fake and as phony as the lies she told along the way. Most of you Hillary supporters sound just like her…You are some fake people and I feel sorry for you.

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Snakes always win when fighting with a dove or bunny!

Posted by: snake | June 3, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Ed S. You are so wrong. Most of the senators voted for the war not just Hillary. You don’t go to war on one vote. Obama wasn’t there when the voting came up because he missed the senate 130 times. But, he voted for the funding twice. No difference. I only hope now that Hillary will run as an independent to knock Obama out of the presidency after the DNC and the superdelegates turned on her outside of Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Biden and Richardson. I have never seen so much hate in a campaign like this in my life and I voted for many many presidents. I also hope Hillary’s voters will keep their word and vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

What a sad day, when the super delegates decide who becomes President over the POPULAR votes of the American people…super delegates or not, I voted for HILLARY! And very proud of it!
I’m part of “WE THE PEOPLE”, what catagory DO the super delegates fall under?

Posted by: glenda elliott | June 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

What a sad day, when the super delegates decide who becomes President over the POPULAR votes of the American people…super delegates or not, I voted for HILLARY! And very proud of it!
I’m part of “WE THE PEOPLE”, what catagory DO the super delegates fall under?

Posted by: glenda elliott | June 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Well, the Walkman was an ‘original’ idea and stood the test of time! The IPOD is already having rivals with more to offer, so I’m just not sure about Obama! And he’s 46…I’m just 2 years older and don’t think people would consider me young & hip. The Media helped Obama more than anything…they just couldn’t give him enough air time! Clinton only seemed to get it when she made mistakes—his was more dismissed! We’ll see—I’m still not sure if he’s going to keep more people on welfare and keep us middle class from living any dream while those who don’t work get more&more! Something’s gotta give…not sure who will give us a break!

Posted by: Lyn | June 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

“what a load of crap – this guys opinion stinks – and whatelse – he played for both teams (repub and demo)
go figure some loser would write this garbage”.
Dowd is a spine-less creep!
Hillary could still win if she pays hardball…declare to the superdelagates she will run as an independent and therefore dems would lose or select Her…
The TRUTH is:
Obama can NOT win without Hillary.
What an irony??
A few words for Obama supporters:
You can not thrive long by being HATEFUL!!! We saw your ugliness, we saw your creepiness, we saw your fear, we saw your WEAKNESS – loud and clear.

Posted by: Jkan | June 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

McCain is speaking….like Tuesday Night at the Senior Center…man is he old, and his attendees are bored! LOL

Posted by: DS | June 3, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

If the Clintons had been honest, decent people, Gore would have won his own state or Arkansas, won the presidency and things would have been very different. Bill lost the House of Representatives and he contributed to the loss of that Minnesota Senate seat (and therefore, the Senate)due to his behavior at the wake. Hillary’s treatment of the travel office staff and her remarkable amnesia during questioning under oath about Whitewater and such, the dishonesty about the cattle futures money, the Friends of Bill and the pardons, plus her giving Americans the experience of being co-enablers with her of her husband’s philandering contributed to her unpopularity among millions. She earned defeat. Perhaps she got to where she did mainly because of her connections (e.g., the job at the Rose law firm)and not really because of any special ability. Like many others (Harding, Nixon, Carter, her husband)she was lucky to be in the right places. The White House is just a place too far. Women, find a competent woman that is worthy of trust and you will see her elected.

Posted by: Richard | June 3, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

McCain has three daughters, quit throwing Roe v. Wade around….never going to turn the hands of time back to 1974…ya really think we’re going to go back 34 years to a different morality before movies got R ratings and little girls were not sexualized. Wake up.
I hate how Obama likes rock star God like arenas to give his speeches, like he will tonight. I rather enjoy seeing him sweat at debates with a smaller crowd….can’t wait for the first one in September. Obama’s concert crowds may be what his packagers think is a turn on…it’s not…I’m not looking to hire Bruce Springsteen…with massive swooning crowds…he doesn’t have a good one on one reputation and relating to the little people…his nose is too high in the air.

Posted by: Debra | June 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

This campaign has made me veer toward racism. I have been racially biased for the colored, specially the black, now I feel such disillusion about the ideal of “color-blindness” in racial matter.
THIS IS A PERSONAL TRAGEDY FOR ME AS I DON’T WANT TO BE TINTED BY ANY RACISM. BUT THE HAPPENINGS IN THIS CAMPAIGN ARE PUSHING ME OTHERWISE.

Posted by: sad | June 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Many of you Hillary supporters are claiming that Obama will not beat McCain without you. Hahaha. I bet you said the same thing about Obama beating Hillary without little ole you! He has whipped both of them when he “wasn’t supposed to”. Go Obama. It’s always the naysayers who will fuel you when you say, “I told you so…”

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Obama will lose 49 states (except Illinois) in November.
Obama will win 20 states in the GE with Hillary being the VP.
Final word:
With or without Hillary, Obama will lose in November.
It’s upto Obama to choose!!

Posted by: Jkan | June 3, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

DONT HATE: Let me go on record to advise you that if you ever went to school you would know that Obama is not black. Obama is Mulatto. He is the offspring of a black/white marriage. He will never be black or white. The news media is so afraid to call him that but I am not and I would say it right to him. He will not beat McCain because Hillary’s voters will not vote Obama in November and I don’t blame them. I won’t either. There are states that will not vote for him either and they stated that, WVA and KY. If Hillary is smart she would run as an independent and split the democrats for the treatment she got from them. She should not support Obama, that is a wrong move. The of the Obama’s camp to offer Hillary the VP only if she refuses. Hillary can make or break Obama depending what she does and what her voters do.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Personally, I would not want such a victory based on unfairness.

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Personally, I would not want such a victory based on unfairness.

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Barack Hussein Obamam
The 20th Hijacker

Posted by: JJ | June 3, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

To proudlibrul:
First of all, I DID NOT EVER IN MY LIFE, vote for bush, not the first time or the second time. Second of all, I think both Obama and Clinton ran very smart campaigns that’s why this primary thing lasted the longest. Second of all, u got vote republic becuz i dont think the rest of us give a care. and lastly i never had anything bad to say about Clinton. When candidates were annonced last year, i made a hard desicion of who to go with, so don’t go shooting off ur damn mouth like u aint got no sense.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

I guess I would take your analysis more seriously if you had EVER said anything nice about Sneator Clinton. In all these months, I have ony heard negativity from you and amy of your cohorts.

Posted by: Jan Wolfe | June 3, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

I interrupt this broadcast to bring you an important message. Barack Obama has taken a strong national lead in the polls against McCain and many sensible people agree that McCain is the one who is chasing Obama. I hate to tell you Hillary supporters that we have done it without YOU! Spit your venom elsewhere, the country doesn’t need it and we will prosper without YOU.

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

It is unlikely McCain will do anything to overturn Roe v Wade. He is, however, pandering to the Republican conservatives.
McCain ’08

Posted by: Virginia Independent | June 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Spam spam spam is that all that Obamanation knows these days???
Your constant spamming of fear mongering is pathetic and will not work.
Obamanation – repeat something enough times and people will buy it. ie ‘change’.
Give a rest already!

Posted by: JJ | June 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

This is not about Hillary losing…it’s about Obama winning. It takes the next black JFK to knock off HIllary..that’s what it take. So it’s not aBOUT her at all…well maybe it is about her…her experience mean squat since she has had bad judgment.

Posted by: rep | June 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

I kind of resent the remarks about under 30s liking Obama because he is like a hip new iPod. I am under 30 and I did prefer Obama’s freshness but it wasn’t because he was hip like an iPod.
It was because he is for a new type of politics and all the old hats (including Clinton) don’t know how to comprehend that. Nothing gets done in Washington anymore. It is the sensationalism. The mud-slinging. The over-simplification of complicated issues. The villianizing of people who disagree with you. Equating a disagreement on policy to a battle between good and evil. It’s easy to dismiss people who disagree with us. It is harder to recognize the strengths of their position and integrate the values they are protecting with our own.
Obama stands for a new type of politics. It is harder and it doesn’t always fit into the two-second sound bites that Americans are used to receiving their politics in. But, in the long run, it is better for the nation. It is about working together. It is a solution that could unite and heal us in a situation where we’ve left each other divided and wounded.
I’ve contributed to it too. But Obama has shown me that it doesn’t have to be that way. There is a solution together. Conservative and liberal. City and small town. Professor and truck driver. We really can stand together.

Posted by: Chris Redford | June 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Personally, I would not want such a victory based on unfairness.

Posted by: novote | June 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

re bebra, janel , john, ntsmall, ron and nyc leon, i ithink this commentary is well spoken …When all you Clinton supporters that are now voting for McCain get through whining like some little pathetic bigoted losers remember that you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for not being honest enough to admit that you would rather vote republican than to see a black man in the White House! Get past color you MORONS and get on board. I am so sorry that your worse nightmare came true, but your next president will be a black man rather you vote for Obama or not!
you all just cant stand it …be truthful!! you all cant admit that Hilary lost cos of an ineffective campaign..so now it bils down to counting MI and FL….geez i cant believe this, when i was a kid my parents taught me that you play by the rules of the game, in education in life, study pass the exams and you will earn your Doctorate…ie not to say that there are not smart people that fail the exam but the rules are stated and you follow it , mi and fl did not and hilary dd not have a problem with it till she needed mi and florida suddenly whoops..she is a champion for counting all the votes…according to you all hilary would have done a better job, i do not see the better job she does,,,oh you have forgotten she failed to get universal health care plan when hubbyh was president cos she did not understand the rhetoric of compromise….spew all the hate you want if ie the best you can do then by all means i am sure mcbush will want you on his campaign. and the fool that equates obama supporters to driving hilary supporters away …geez now obama is controlling the minds of his supporters,,,you all stop whinning and get a life…if the post of an aboma supporter drives you away then you never stood for the democratic party…i wonder if you all would say the same if it were Al gore,,, if you love mcbush so much that you want the war in lraq to continue and possible reversal of roe v wade by all means go ahead , if you want repubicans version of trickle down economics go ahead thus far the money has not trickled down to the middle class but i guess you want more of mcbush rather than stick with your party…i am a democrat and i would have voted for hilary, gore, edwards so long as they are not trickle down economics republicans, who oppose a womans right to choose…talking of skeletons…republicans also have that down pat …you think our current president do not have skeletons cornered!!lol think again…and likewise for mcbush and hilary, obama hid not hit below the belt during this primaries and i commend him for it, despite that i would have voted for hilary if she has worn….so talking about the media hickaing by Obama , well the clintons started off way ahead and they lost cos they thought they had clinced this hilary did not prep for after super tue..she even said she expected super tue to indicate the nominiee ..arrogance if you ask me….anyway take your vote to the conservative side if your bitterness will not allow you to see better.

Posted by: osisi | June 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

You have the audacity to call Hillary supporters racist when Obama has been a member of church for 20 years that embraces an ideology that spews nothing but racial hatred towards white people? His closest self-proclaimed spiritual advisors are nothing short of a freak circus side show. It is amazing to me that the so-called liberal progressives that want change are behind a candidate that is nothing but the same ‘old politics’ as usual, just in different packaging. Obama can pander all he wants to Hillary supporters but they know is nothing but a fraud. He lies about his relationship to Rezko aka his political God Father and the his co-terrorist financial contributer Nadhmi Auchi!!!
No, I will never vote for a man who got his start and funding in politics from man (Rezko, Auchi) that was formerly tied to Saddam Hussien’s regime. Look that up Obamotons. Yes, your man has a direct link to Nadhmi Auchi…18th richest man in London, owns BNP bank, Fintrade and many others. This man was convicted of the largrest fraud case in the history of France (El Aquitane)!
Change you can believe in! I think not.

Posted by: Lulu | June 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Pete,
You are absolutely correct. Those who say that Clinton and McCain are closer politically than Clinton and Obama obviously haven’t heard—or understood—a word Clinton has said in the past 6 months. It’s a completely ridiculous contention.
Any TRUE Hillary supporter who turns to McCain disgraces her and everything she stands for, including:
* Ending the current Iraq war policy;
*Supporting a women’s rights right to choose;
* Reforming the economy to help the underclass;
* Ending the tax cuts for the wealthy;
* Putting a stop to NAFTA;
* Supporting universal healthcare.
If you agreed with the McCain, Bush, and the rights’ agendas on these issues, you had no business supporting Clinton in the first place.
She would be ashamed of you; and I think in the coming months, she will say just that.

Posted by: GK | June 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

First, I’m appalled at the poor spelling and grammar of most of these posts (both Obama and Hillary supporters). Wow, that says so much about the state of the US.
The best analysis of why Hillary lost was summarized by Tfseem. Hillary’s arrogance and ambition for power sidetracked her campaign along with her assumptiont that she would be the presumptive nominee after Super Tuesday.
I’m a registered independent who has watched the DNC primary contest with some interest. I never would have voted for Hillary. I’ve never liked her or respected her. My impression is that she put up with her philandering and perjuring husband in order to make her grab for power. For example, she immediately moved to New York to establish residency to run for the Senate without having any other ties there.
My inclination has changed from considering Obama to supporting McCain over the past few months of observing this race. I don’t think Obama is honest about his real agenda, which appears to be far more radical left than his public persona projects. It is very disturbing to me that he has had such a close relationship with a church that has given Reverend Wright a pulpit (notwithstanding the cultural differences in predominately black churches).
This was Hillary’s race to lose and she lost it due to her sense of entitlement. She endured her idiot of a husband for so long to preserve her political power. Her hubris defeated her.
I do find it surprising that so many Hillary supporters are donating to McCain. Don’t you have an ideological/political stance that you need to support (that is opposite of the republicans) not just expressing a need to throw a tantrum?

Posted by: Lisa | June 3, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

SDO: I think your dreaming that Obama will win in November but that’s not true. Get use to it. Yes, McCain can beat Obama if Hillary’s voters all turned to McCain or Hillary runs as an independent to knock Obama out of the race. Good for her. I hope she does that. Offering the VP job only if she refuses it. Can’t Obama talk for himself. Why are his supporters talking for him. If he can’t speak up to Hillary and talk business with her what kind of president would he represent. Hillary doesn’t need anyone to talk for her. She can do her own talking. Obama needs to sit down with Hillary face to face and discuss what possibilities there are for her and don’t hide.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Hillary’s ignorance is what killed her. She appointed herself as the nominee because she thought she was entitled to it. Well, Hil, the folks saw right through you. This goes to show you that the rest of this country is not as dumb as the residents of NY who sent her to the senate.

Posted by: ogmike | June 3, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

No list is needed. There is only one reason Clinton lost a nomination that could have easily been hers – Iraq war resolution vote. She lost a core 10-15% of the base with this vote and we never came back but went straight to Obama and others. It isn’t really all that complex.

Posted by: trthtopower | June 3, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

I’m sick to death of hearing all of this Black President/Woman President stuff. Can’t we just look at people objectively anymore? I thought gender and race were passe ideas (guess not). The UK had a woman Prime Minister–Maggie, the Iron Maiden, who was WONDERFUL! in the 1990′s..What is wrong with America? The idea that we won’t vote for a WOMAN or a BLACK MAN is just so Stupid! The issues are what I want to see discussed, and in this nomination battle I haven’t seen issues–I’ve seen personalities!! How sad for all of us. The candidates were too busy being “childish” to each other to explain themselves. OR all they did was spout slogans about “CHANGE” or “EXPERIENCE”—I wanted to scream “Show me the Beef!!!” Where is the substance of these people? It’s a sad day when none of the candidates are worth a vote.

Posted by: Rose | June 3, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Obama has a lot to offer our great country America. I believe he is God´s sent and he is properly equiped to be the Chief executive. God bless America.

Posted by: Charles | June 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

It has been mentioned before but cannot be stressed enough….the major reason the Hillary lost was that she was running against a phenomenal opponent. Barak Obama started strong and kept getting stronger. If Bill had run against him in 92, Bill would not likely have gotten the nomination either.
If Hillary had run against anyone besides Obama, all those other ‘mistakes’ that Dowd points out in his article would mean nothing.
Lets give credit where credit is due. I would love to see an Obama-Hillary ticket which would truely be phenomenal!!!

Posted by: Excited Democrate | June 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Mariann Pepitone: I did go to school and if you had any couth you would know that Mulatto is a term that is no longer in use because it is no longer in technical use. And how can you be so stupid as to say that he will never be black or white when he is clearly both or even better, here’s a word for you BI-RACIAL. How about that for your educated ass. Get real, admit that you are a stupid clueless racist and face reality. You next president will be a black/white/bi-racial man and ain’t a damn thing you can do about it. When he wins I hope I am the first person you think about. Now get back to the issues you idiot!

Posted by: DON'T HATE!!!!! | June 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Again, Hillary ran a good campaign, she’s honest and she does have experience. THERE. I said nice things Jan. Now stop shooting off ur mouth like Obama Supporters want to take over the world. WE JUST WANT SOMEONE TO GET THE JOB DONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE! Are we wrong for wanting that!? Gosh. i can’t believe some people.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

ogmike: No, it was this generation of college students mainly the ones on drugs and booze that didn’t know their butt from a hole in the ground and the young people ages 25 – 35 years of age. Obama cannot win the battleground states because they didn’t want him in the first place. WVA and KY will not vote Obama because they already stated they would not vote for him. Good for them. Neither will I.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

I’m doing an informal poll on my blog. So far it is pretty evenly split as to those who think Hillary benefited from reverse sexism as opposed to being hurt by sexism. Feel free to vote.
http://inandoutoftruth.blogspot.com/

Posted by: remarks | June 3, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Congrats Sen. Obama! On to the white house for the democrats!

Posted by: the_peoples_prez | June 3, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Barak Obama just secured the democratic nomination. He has 2119 delegates!
History was just made.
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!
Obama ’08!

Posted by: Hope For Change | June 3, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Obama won because of pep fests that are caucuses and and because of the Democratic Party insistence of proportionality of delegate dispersal.
You get your ass kicked by 40% in a state and you still pick up delegates?
These factors favor weaker candidates.
If the Democrats used Winner Take All rules in the primaries and yes, even the caucus pep fests, Hillary Clinton would have won the Dem nomination long ago.
Obama isn’t going to change a darn thing in America’s political environment, and he certainly won’t get the U.S. out of Iraq. Those who think he will change anything are fools.
Obama certainly will change one thing: My vote from Democrat will change to Republican in November 2008.

Posted by: Politicalpuck | June 3, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

It’s so sad that there’s so much neglect in considering ability and qualifications required as commander and chief. If that were truly happening there’s no way Obama would be this far today. He may be a good fit for the oval office someday. He seems very intelligent and certainly has gifts in communication, but he’s just getting a feel for what it takes to run state affairs much less a whole nation. Next time around he’d have my ear, but for now to simply tout “change” as anyone can is simply a use of words. A use that’s clearly worked well, but almost any human can say the word “change.” Time will tell if he fills the seat.

Posted by: DV | June 3, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

She didn’t win b/c God don’t like ugly.
The votes in the two states that shouldn’t have been counted still didn’t make her the nomination.
The best perso won Mr. Obama!
Congratulation……let’s do some thangs together Mr.President.
P.S. Take notes Mr.McCain

Posted by: Chocolate Chip | June 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Ron mentioned that Obama better learn how to duck.?? Is he doing the same thing Hillary did …. refer to an assasination attempt? It is so sad that people would rather believe as person that at every opportunity brought race into the campaign (yes I do mean Hillary). Throught the entire campaign process) Mr. Obama behaved very “presidential”. I can’t say the same for Mrs. Clinton or her hubby. Grow up people! Mrs. Clinton lost the race herself.

Posted by: CBrown | June 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

I am a minority woman who has grown absolutely DISGUSTED by Hillary’s behavior towards Obama during the campaign: mind you, I did not dislike Hillary that much at the beginning of the campaign, but quickly came to lose any sympathy I had for her.
First of all, if she’s such a feminist as she pretends to be, why on earth did she rely so much on her husband? There’s nothing I despise more than a woman who is “my hubby this, my hubby that…”; instead, I respect a woman who stands on her OWN two feet. (LOL, this was the woman who once claimed that she wasn’t some little woman “standing by her man!”)
More disturbing than that was her willingness to play the race card–while trying to make it seem as if Obama were guilty of it. It says something that Hillary once had the firm support of the African American community, but lost it with her willing pandering to popular prejudices against blacks.
Then there was the “slight problem” of the “foot in mouth” syndrome where she was taking back or apologizing for what SHE said (unlike Obama’s case, whose problems were caused by remarks of others, like Wright): Bosnian sniper fire, reinforcing white working class prejudices, then the invocation of Bobby Kennedy. She has obviously never heard of the saying “look before you leap.” Fascinating how she claims to have “experience,” but after a painful George W Bush presidency, we should know that experience is nothing without judgment!
Finally, it says a lot that she was more willing to smear Obama than McCain: but, of course, in her mind, she and hubby ARE the Democratic party. retrospect, it’s almost laughable that the woman who once said that Obama was less fit than Mccain to be president, is now willing to be Obama’s veep. (My, how the “mighty” have fallen!)
I would like to see a woman president in my lifetime. JUST NOT HILLARY!

Posted by: FACPHD | June 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Mariann Pepitone: I read your statement about my comment. One thing. You are soooo negative. Why? Everything that you said is negative. Why does one have to knock another out of the race? Why do the Hillary supporters have to disgrace themselves and vote for a man that clearly hates everything that Democrats stand for? Hatred, bitterness and jealousy clouds your thinking and you should sit down and contemplate. Also, you appear to love Hillary soooo much. I bet if you had seen her like I did years ago in public you’d feel different (that is if you had a real brain.) Hillary cusses at people and is really mean when it isn’t necessary. My impression of her wasn’t good and I wouldn’t show soooo much love and dedication to a person who gives less than a hoot about people she works with… Let alone YOU!

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

s.b.:You are so right. Obama read RFK’s speeches and that’s what he was speaking on the platform. It was stated on the Internet that he was given a book of speeches by RFK and Obama should study them. His words of hope and change came from RFK when he was campaigning. It is true the media promoted him highly like he was a god. The ignored McCain and Hillary and that was an injustice to them. However, Hillary should really run as an independent to knock Obama out of the presidency so McCain can win.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Forget Hillary Clinton her old white ass was not going to win. Yeah Barack Obama finally we get to see a black man on top instead of being looked at on the bottom.

Posted by: Lisa | June 3, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Why did Gore & Kerry lose? The Clinton’s!! 2008 the end of the Clinton Error!!!! YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DS | June 3, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

A tough election like this proves that the democrats are ready for the go. Hillary did a great job, but Obama was preferred.
UP UP DEMOCRATS!!! we’ll cont. our support for Obama 08. Obama we love you!!!!!

Posted by: Ignatius Ofagbe | June 3, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Congrats Obama.Congrat American people.We have have came a long way togather.peace.

Posted by: obamasfan | June 3, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

“….Obama stands for a new type of politics. It is harder and it doesn’t always fit into the two-second sound bites that Americans are used to receiving their politics in. But, in the long run, it is better for the nation. It is about working together. It is a solution that could unite and heal us in a situation where we’ve left each other divided and wounded.”
Posted by: Chris Redford | Jun 3, 2008 8:55:23 PM
There are fundamental differences between the Republicans and Democrats–government power (state vs. federal), taxes, wealth distribution… Should Senator Obama win the GE, there is very little on his resume that speaks to his ability in overcoming these differences. His Senatorial record doesn’t even provide any insight into how he plans to resolve the partisan problems that plague this country. If anything, he has a very liberal record; which will turn away a lot of voters in the GE.
McCain ’08

Posted by: Virginia Independent | June 3, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

BS. I SAY THIS IS ALL BS. Why don’t we just get over the fact that he’s the candidate and move toward freaking November. Is that so hard!?

Posted by: Just plain and frank | June 3, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Every drip drop of political blood in Hillary disagrees with what McCain is about. The only thing that they have in common is that they are both WHITE. Wow, what is the truth behind you Hillary supporters turning toward McCain. It’s been 400 years that we’ve been in this country together as different races of people. Why haven’t some of you gotten the poison out of your system? If you don’t believe me that you’re wrong, watch Hillary’s speech tonight. She will admit defeat, support Obama and disagree with you idiots who don’t support him. Albeit, she will prove herself to be quite the hypocrit when she does.

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

U R SO RIGHT SDO!

Posted by: Just plain and frank | June 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Congratulations Senator Obama!!
As a Republican, we could not have asked for a weaker candidate..I mean where do you start? no experience in international affairs, no legislation to speak of, no military background, biggest accomplishment= good public speaker, but no substance.
I am a little dissapointed because I was looking forward to a match with HRC, who is by far more qualified.. You hate to beat a second rate quarterback like Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Lenin | June 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Those who now say that McCain is the lesser of evils had better think again. All a person has to do is look at the Supreme Court to see that there will be two vacancies that will have to be filled in the next four years. If you want the country to complete the “Waterloo” process it is currently in, vote for McCain and screw up the last bastion of hope for checks and balances in our country. Look for our country’s international image and the dollar to sink fast. Look for a woman’s right to be fatally in danger. All of the above should be compelling reason enough to vote for Obama instead of McCain. I am a Latino and have been for Obama all along, since Bill Richardson dropped out of the race.
Viva Obama y Viva Gringolandia

Posted by: Richard Cadena | June 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

GK — Yes, Hillary supporters do have an ideology that they support and that is not to let a novice with ties to Islamic terrorist in the WH! Obama and his camp have been scrubbing the internet with any links that illustrates his ties to Nadhmi Auchi vis a vis Rezko.
For me it an issue of National Security. You think I am kidding or being overly dramatic but I am not. Mr. Auchi’s lawyer Alsdair Pepper in London has been shutting down any websites that show the link between Obama and Nadhmi. Just recently the Chicago Tribune had to shut down there Rezko Watch Blog upon receipt of a 3-page memo from Alsdair Pepper. And if you look up Jack Kelly at Real Clear Politics he had written an article on March 1st 2008 entitled “Who Is Nadhmi Auchi and What’s His Tie to Obama?” You can find every oped piece he is ever written but this one. It’s been scrubbed. I have a copy though and will save it as proof.

Posted by: Lulu | June 3, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

All i can say is……..REPUBLICANS, U R GOING DOWN!!!

Posted by: Rosie | June 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Alot of people say that if Obama was a white man he wouldn’t have made it this far. Well if Hillary was a white man, and an unknown name, she wouldn’t have even been considered – period. All I can say is if Obama picks her as VP, he better watch his back, have his food tasted and sleep with one eye open. As evidenced by her actions, she will stop at nothing to be Pres. What a disgrace. She should drop off the face of the earth. Good ridance.

Posted by: its over | June 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

This is insane. I don’t think she’s sink that low.

Posted by: Rosie | June 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

I agree.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Dowd is a piece of s_h_i_t.

Posted by: Marty Pillars | June 3, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

I mistakenly wrote:
“Look for a woman’s right to be fatally in danger”.
Sorry about that. It should be:
“Look for a woman’s right TO CHOOSE to be fatally in danger”.
The ladies look to men for protection, and overturning “Roe vs. Wade” is the WRONG way to go about doing it.
Go Obama 2008 / ¡Vamos Obama 2008!

Posted by: Richard Cadena | June 3, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Obama may be feeling like a winner right now, but he doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in Miami of becoming president.
And Sally, I’m truly sorry that Mother Nature shortchanged you when she was passing out gray matter.

Posted by: kusa | June 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

Posted by: Craig | June 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

i cant beleive a man from another country will be our president the US will go down now this sucks when clinton was president we didn`t have all these problems with gas an losing homes, its over people if this black man gets president………

Posted by: mike | June 3, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

SDO I so agree with you. That bigoted Mariann Pepitone just got me going a little bit because I am so tired of bigotry in this country. And just like the run of the mill cowardice bigot they always try and “whitewash” their true feelings with a bunch of bull. Obama is an awesome man and a viable candidate. I like Hillary too but she ran too dirty of a campaign. She was more cut throat that she needed to be and got caught in too many lies, but I will vote for her before I vote republican because that McCain is a disaster waiting to happen. America is already so low that we have to look up to see our feet and I will take a chance on change before I continue with bushonomics. George has made our great country a laughing stock. He is a C Student and finished next to last in his class at Westpoint and those dumb ass republicans overlooked that and elected him president…Twice, well the first time he stole the election but I digress….

Posted by: DON'T HATE!!!!! | June 3, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

To all you Hillary fans, Hillary would not be running the white House if she had won her husband would be running it every step of the way. Hillary has PMS that is why she blabbles and as for Obama stealing votes it wasn’t his fault he was already winning don’t blame him he was not even on the ballot so the 2 states cheated them both 1 for not having him on the ballot 2 because of early voting they new they weren’t suppose to do that but yet they did.Yall Hating on a Black man because he won some of you is willing to switch your voting because he is black it is not about him wanting to change the world,it is what it is his a black man (and you all is racist) is it that bad for yall to want to change votes if he was white we wouldn’t even be discussing any of this. haters If you all want to still live in the ice age instead of willing to make a change then so be it. OBAMA for the people…..McCain is old and wiser but see where your kids will be in the years to come fighting and getting drafted for some war and don’t know what they’re fighting for.This war has gone on for so long and were still asking what the world is fighting for its time for us to go to war and vote for what’s right……OBAMA

Posted by: Annie York | June 3, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

No to WAR! That’s a factor for Obama.
No to WAR! Might be as well a factor against McCain.

Posted by: Wency | June 3, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

“Should Senator Obama win the GE, there is very little on his resume that speaks to his ability in overcoming these differences. His Senatorial record doesn’t even provide any insight into how he plans to resolve the partisan problems that plague this country. If anything, he has a very liberal record”
Apparently you’ve not read his book (The Audacity of Hope). Overcoming partisan differences was the core theme. McCain does a much shabbier job of reaching across the aisle.
A senatorial record is a very poor piece of data for judging a candidate. A Yes/No vote doesn’t even begin to capture the reasoning that went behind that vote. And sometimes senators are disatisfied with the consequences of having to choose yes or no but have to anyways because that is the way the system is. Obama is for improving the system and has ideas for making government work more realistically, practically, and efficiently.
Where are McCain’s ideas and philosophies? All I see from him are platitudes, oversimplifications, and sensationalism. Not serious thinking that recognizes the intricate nature of our problems. We need a thinker.

Posted by: Chris Redford | June 3, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

SDO: Let me go on record to say that I would never vote for a candidate that attended a racist white hating anti-american church for 20 years unless I was racist myself. You need to read more on Obama. He was a racist as a young man and even had a dislike for his mother and grandmother the typical white woman he called her. Obama and his wife were both racial. I read his BIO in the NYT months ago. Very interesting. He has close ties to Ayers who set off bombs in this country three times, attorney for crooked Rezko, and don’t forget Farrakhan. Is that what you call a true American? Obama only wanted to make history for himself the the heck with you. I read him like a book without the cover. He is underhanded and cunning. He play dirty pool to the woman running against him for the senate even taking her to court. It was all over the internet a few days ago. I hope Hillary’s voters are smart enough to vote McCain if she isn’t going to run as an independent. No. Obama is going to need Hillary’s help because if he wants to win those battleground states she won he needs her to campaign for him. I would refuse unless he wanted me as his VP and I would not help him. Get a copy of his BIO and read more about this man.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Obama was born in Hawaii. So take that to the bank Mike. I can’t believe u wd even start crap against foreigners. I’ll pray for you……

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Republicans can’t spell.

Posted by: mike | June 3, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

After 40 years of voting for demos, i am now proudly a republican!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: WHATABOUTME | June 3, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Does anyone notice that Obama was not talked asbout much until OPRAH came out for him? I refuse to vote from someone because the fawning media and the great Oprah say so. She is a nice lady but she is a talk show host – not a guru or queen. Obama was not able to vote one way or another for Iraq as he was not in the Senate & I don’t care what speech he made from the sidelines. For people to say that gender or race did not play a huge part of this race, they are deluding themselving. While it might not have been the only factor it was a big one as was the love affair the media has had with Obama since Oprah knighted him. While I was not crazy about Hilary either (voted for Edwards myself AND I live in Florida so I guess I don’t count anyway)…I will not vote like a sheep that does what the popular press and talk show hosts tell me to. I guess McCain is not so bad – that is who I will vote for now.

Posted by: Valerie | June 3, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Mariann Pepitone, u are truly an evil and insensitive person and really NEGATIVE!

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

I wish Hillary would run on an IND ticket so could knock the crap out of this IN senator with his idea of change … change from very bad to worse. May God have mercy on us if the good for nothing senator from IL wins. It will be sad but something that I will do … come back on this page and say “told you so, idiots”.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Hillary thought she would win on Super Tuesday. She had no plans for the race to go on after that day. Later in the race when she begin to believe she would lose, she said “let the super delegates decide it.” After she realize that the super delegates were voting for Obama, she wanted to count Florida and Michigan. The rule was broken, but she wanted to include those states in the race. The states were included, but not the way Hillary wanted them to be included. Once that didn’t work, she started saying that she would be the better candiate. Her people are now saying that Obama was given the race by the superdelegates; the same delegates that Hillary insisted on deciding who the candiate would be for the democratic party. Obama went along with every change in the race that Hillary wanted to happen. Hillary will bounce back. Al Gore did after the election with George Bush( Academy Award-lol) Now people are saying that Obama is not African American, according to one of the post above, but Mulatto. When is the last time that person filled out an application or read a book? Its Bi-racial. But I guess Obama is saying he is Arican American because during the time he was growing up, the rule was that if you had one ounce of Black in your blood, you were black. The bottom line is that Hillary underestimated the power of CHANGE!!!! She underestimated the power of the HOPE!!! She underestimated the power of African Americans still believing in Dr. King’s Dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But her biggest mistake was to underestimate Barack Obama.

Posted by: angieb | June 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

HRC lost because SHE RUINED HER CAMPAIGN by herself:
- HER TEAM DIDN’T DO THEIR HOMEWORK on party & primary rules
- QUESTIONS PLANTED for the meetings
- BOSNIAN SNIPERS (this was an incredible lie…)
- “OBLITERATE IRAN”
- “HARD WORKING AMERICANS – WHITE AMERICANS” (Ooops… bad girl!)
- SEN. KENNEDY ASSASSINATON (desperate…)
Plus: SHE WAS ALWAYS TOO AGGRESSIVE.

Posted by: dude | June 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

have a son 16 years old!
I do not mind him to go to Iraq if he wishes to go!
I would have votedd for hillary but will never vote for Obama!
I’d rather being in Iraq 4 more years than living in a communist coutry under Obama admin!
Posted by: John|Jun 3, 2008 7:41:55 PM
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John: YOU would rather be in Iraq? You don’t really mean that do you? Those young troops are over there losing their lives for something that makes no sense. I’m sure given the opportunity, you or your son would not want to trade places with any of them. So unless you plan to suit up in full military gear and risk your life, I think you should really think about what you’re saying…

Posted by: 1rdyforchange | June 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

I think it has more to do with Hilary’s behavior. She was being like those nasty teenage stuck up high school girls rather than a leader.

Posted by: Moirae | June 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

I’m not an republican Mike. But you know what you are? You’re an ass.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

It may be a revelation to Mike, but Bush actually had higher grades than the last Democratic presidential candidate==John Kerry. You may call Republicans what you want, but one thing is clear: there has not been any other attacks on US soil since 9/11 so while you all may weep and overstate the so called loss of civil liberties, but remember who’s kept you safe all these years. As for Obama, he wants to have a round table with the Cuban, Iranian and North Korean presidents==WOW–that’s really a well thought out intellectual statement–worthy of a Harvard graduate. Never mind Iran wants to use nuclear weapons on Israel..like I said–I relish the thougth of having Obama as the Democratic candidate

Posted by: Lenin | June 3, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

How on earth does an article claiming to be even a partial post-mortem not include a reference to Clinton’s “Yes” vote on the Iraq war?!

Posted by: Amalie | June 3, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Mariann, Mariann, Mariann. My God, why are you SOOOO negative. Have you seen the character flaws in Clinton and McCain also. They are equal to the character flaws that we all have, including Obama, Clinton and McCain. McCain was endorsed and surrounded by Pastors who hate blacks and called Catholics the “Great Whores” (Pastor John Hagee). Hillary and Bill were so distraught during his time of infidelity that they needed spiritual counseling. Guess who they called? Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I read his Bio and I have a bit of insight into all the candidates. They all have said things that they really didn’t mean and have made mistakes. Don’t we all? Whatever you can say about Obama (including the lies you told), can be equally said about the other candidates. This is in your blood too deep. Take a chill pill and calm down. Hey, speaking of being underhanded, “How did you like it when the Clintons made those racist comments?” Or, when she misspoke about RFK being assassinated? Or, when she lied about dodging bullets? Even with those obvious flaws, she’d be much better than McCain. Here, here Mariann, live in the sunshine! Life ain’t sooo bad.

Posted by: SDO | June 3, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

RE Mariann Pepitone ..you are such a fool and a bigot at that…mulato indeed…go back to school lady and see the criteria used to define blackness as per USA history..it is 1/16 drop of black blood. Mulato indeed..gosh i bet you are an old bigoted, hateful italian woman, probably as old as Mcbush who you seem tilted for go freaking vote for him and shut up your bigoty. i am so done with this blog i wont read anymore not when i have to deal with jerk heads like you…you give a bad name to the citizens of USA….i am so done with reading your messed up biased crap good night old lady ..you probably dont care ie we are on the brink of recession and that lrag for all purposes is in a civil war cos of Bush;s policies anything is better for you than voting for someone who is not of your race….when you are at the end of your life commend yourself for having lived a bigoted life

Posted by: osisi | June 3, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

HRC HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF BOSNIAN SNIPERS
How is it possible for an experienced politician, layer, etc to go on and tell such a childish lie… she’s crazy.

Posted by: dude | June 3, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

The Voters chose the best person Obama…to reunite the USA to it’s former status in the World…and the best person for the USA people.
Obama represents change and honesty in Government…and caring for USA citizens.
Hillary represents the past…and destruction of USA policies and morals.

Posted by: Eileen C. Tallon | June 3, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

“He is unelectable and Democrats are dumb. 35% of Clinton voters are walking. If that’s the case, that 35% are simple sore losers. There is such a vast chasm of differences between McCain and ANY Democrat that such a protest tactic displays profound ignorance.

Posted by: Joe C. | June 3, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

I would not vote for Hillary for anything after the way she handled this race. She is an arrogant liar who is only out for herself and nobody else.

Posted by: Ms Penny | June 3, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

@ Lenin, who said: “You may call Republicans what you want, but one thing is clear: there has not been any other attacks on US soil since 9/11 so while you all may weep and overstate the so called loss of civil liberties, but remember who’s kept you safe all these years.”
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There weren’t any terrorist attacks on American soil for the 8 years before 9/11, during which a Democrat was in office. And there was ample evidence put forth in the hearings that your beloved Republicans knew that the 9/11 fact scenario was a possibility and took no precautions. And there have been two minor bombings in Manhattan in the last four years — suspects still at large. So they haven’t kept us safe. Not at all.

Posted by: Amalie | June 3, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

So Curious George won the primary. For all you numbnuts listen up. Obama was the chosen one from the beginning from the DNC. Who else finds it ironic that the same party who claimed in 2000 that every vote should count when refering to Bush-Gore and then in 2004 claimed fraud in Ohio are the same party railroading Hillary? She hands down won the popular vote in her primary but does not get the nomination. Just goes to show its not the will of the people but the will of the DNC. Want to put politics back in the peoples hands? Make all primaries for all states for both parties on the same date. That way the media’s influence can be negated. Also this crap about receiving delegates based on voting percentages is just that – Crap!! Winner take all!!!!

Posted by: JohnJ | June 3, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

“I read him like a book without the cover.”
I think you should read his book, Mariann because you are terribly misinformed about what he stands for and who he is. You really don’t seem to know anything about him. Just what the media spins out of hacked up, out-of-context quotes from him.
If you want to know who the man really is, you are going to have to be a little more realistic, be a little less simplifying, and do a little more work. You would actually have to listen to his speeches and read his background.
Have you really ever heard a racist speech from him? I know you haven’t because he’s never given one. You want to take his “typical white person” quote out of context then ignore his entire speech about uniting the races. Well you are making things easier for yourself but at the cost of accuracy.

Posted by: Chris Redford | June 3, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

I don’t believe it!!!! Are you people adults or little children. Clinton lost and Obama won. Get over it. I have an 18 year old son that may have to borrow up to 40,000.00 for college. He asked about joining the Army to pay for college. I told him at this time I would strongly discourage him from going. As a 23 year Army veteran I have served for him. We need a change from the big businesses/colleges charging outragous prices for substandard service, they take job oversees without a backword glace, lobbysts and pollatians making deals over money disenfranchising us. If you can’t see that then God bless you and good night.

Posted by: kmclemore | June 3, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Holy Shiite – did anyone see McCain’s counter-speech???
Good God, that was painful – like Junior High Debate Club painful. I’ve seen bigger audiences at Keanu Reeves’ movies.
Disenfranchised Clinton Voters, have fun voting for that.
Did anyone else pick up the hidden messages McCain was making in his speech.
McCain’s hidden message tonight:
That’s not change you can believe in…(Please God, just put me out of my misery)…(cannot go on, do not believe words. .coming…out.. .of…my.. .mouth)… (Just spitting Republican talking points)…(must regurgitate canned line again)…That’s not change we can believe in, That’s not change we can believe in, That’s not change we can believe in…(Oh God, I can’t listen anymore)…(and I’m the one speaking)…(my fifty in-house supporters didn’t laugh at my joke). Cue theme music…This is the end, dum, dum dah, dum, dum, this is the end my friend…(no, nightmares of Charlie, napalm, Hanoi hookers…)

Posted by: Derek | June 3, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Ms Penny, you may forget that if Bill Clinton had given the ok to assasinate Bin Laden, the bombing of the USS Cole, the American embassies in African and 9/11 would have never happened. This may be news to you I suppose, but Mohammed Atta was serving a prison term in Israel, until your boy Bill Clinton pressed Israel to free him as part of the Oslo peace agreements. Everyone here knows how he thanked America a few years later in lower Manhattan. This has been censured in the US by the way.
We live in a harsh, unpredictable world that requires a man with a deep understanding of this concept. I can guarantee you that McCain understands this because he had his limbs broken by his captors. Obama is naive and I am just horrified by the thought of him in the White House.

Posted by: lenin | June 3, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

“He is unelectable and Democrats are dumb. 35% of Clinton voters are walking.”
If that’s the case, that 35% are simple sore losers. There is such a vast chasm of differences between McCain and ANY Democrat that such a protest tactic displays profound ignorance.
In my previous comment, I forgot to close the quotation.

Posted by: Joe C. | June 3, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

CLINTON LOST BECAUSE SHE RUINED HER OWN CAMPAIGN
(planted questions, bosnian snipers, hard-working americans – white americans, obliterate iran, sen Kennedy assassination, etc)
SHE MAY EVEN HAVE RUINED HER POLITICAL CAREER FOR GOOD.
WHO’S GOING TO TRUST HER AGAIN???

Posted by: dude | June 3, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Ed S from Lexington, Ky had it right. What a load of crap this article was. I didn’t even read to the end it was so useless and biased. Obama is not only the best candidate, he is the only candidate with the character, integrity and intellect to restore the USA-which is exactly what America sorely needs-restoration. May I suggest John Edwards as VP. Put an end to the Bush-Clinton era and all the millions of Americans(John McCain included)that have supported the American WAR CRIME that is IRAQ.Turn the page.Or America will certainly be destroyed from within.

Posted by: alan Scott | June 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

@ Lenin, who said: “You may call Republicans what you want, but one thing is clear: there has not been any other attacks on US soil since 9/11 so while you all may weep and overstate the so called loss of civil liberties, but remember who’s kept you safe all these years.”
______________
Oh, and lest I forget, the baseball player who crashed his small plane into an Upper East Side high rise? FAA didn’t pick up on him at all; no idea he was in the air until he hit the building. You would think this would be the one city where that couldn’t happen again. But nothing has changed, except the fact that we now have a nice color-coded terror alert system that ratchets up a level every time the White House is trying to distract people from revelation of another scandal. Yes, safer. Not the word I’d use.

Posted by: Amalie | June 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Michigan, trying to be the most important state, had a “Soviet Style” one-candidate Democratic primary, the results of which indicated pretty much nothing. As a result, many of us loyal Dem’s voted for Romney the self-financed trasher of the other Republican candidates just to get him to stick around longer and do more damage, since we really didn’t have a choice on our own side of the ballot.
Michigan Dem Party head Debbie Dingell (who along with Sen. Levin and Gov. Granholm pushed the early primary) fought long and hard for Hillary, so when she switched her super-delagate 1/2 vote to Obama today, it was pretty much time to stick a fork in it!
So as you’ll hear from Hillary and every other Democratic leader in the next few days, it’s time to go thru anger, grief, denial, etc. get over it and get on with re-defeating Bush/McCain!

Posted by: Michigan | June 3, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

To Annie York:
You are on this page becouse a black man is going to be on the Dem ticket, what an idiot you are. How soon you forgot what Bill did for ur people. I have no words for folks like u … well maybe looser. You must be an OLD lady since you don’t get PMS, LOL. When MacBush wins, you can crawl back into ur cage and wait for another ur “Knite in Shining Armor”.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

It really boiled down to the Obama early caucus strategy, piling up the insurmountable delegate lead in the early go. As the campaign went on into April, he became an unsteady campaigner — boring on the stump when doing smaller gigs, botching tv debates, and both looking and speaking like the very Ivy League priss Clinton was accusing him of being. She got better as a stump speaker and day-to-day campaigner as time went on…even to the point where Obama had eight days of unrelenting Bosnia sniper fire coverage to put her away and could not do it — even w Bill C screwing up. (Then came Wright and “bitterness” and he blew his chance.)
He limped across the finish line, losing many big, vital primaries even when he statistically had her and her supporters know it.
Axelrod (his strategist) clobbered Penn (her strategiest). That’s the victory. On the trail, it was a toss up, w maybe a slight edge to Clinton for finishing big.

Posted by: Tom Greenfield | June 3, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

As I read some of the replies to the article written here, it proves one thing that was certainly said correctly in the article, Hillary took this for granted. Now, her supporters, after looking upon her to the the leader to lead them out of the morass Bush has created the last eight years, are fomenting at the mouth about how they will vote for McCain come November. Like that is going to change what has happened in this Democratic primary? All the petty excuses, weird theories, just plain cheating that was done to poor Hillary just shows that her constituents that backed her wholeheartedly, got the same surprise she did. Get this people, SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH. Obama energized, and galvanized a segment of society that pollsters have wanted to become a part of the process for years, YOUTH. All of the oldsters,…..just what do you think Hillary could have done for you? You got it, NADA, nothing. She would have used the same ole tried and true system that is owned by Lobbyist, Political Action Committee’s, and Special Interest Groups. In other words, she was not about to change one darn thing. Who is affected the most when there is no change on the hill, YOUTH. Obama DARED them to join him, DARED them to think HOPE, DARED them to risk putting their efforts and hard-earned dollars behind a candidate whoms ancestry has always been looked upon as “second-class” in the good ole USofA. They responded…THEY WON..THEY WON FAIR AND SQUARE. And Youth is going to make sure that their future is not mortgaged by ole’ farts who wanted their “baby-doll” to call the shots for 4 to 8 years. Youth is galvanized, it realizes it can change this country. Change that will be good for ole’ farts like myself, and the whinny Hillary supporters who are only crying because SHE LOST, SHE BLEW IT. Thats why so many of these ole’ farts who have children are saying their kids are for Obama…..he represents the future. Hillary represented an extra cup of milk from the retirement home. I for one am GLAD to see youth finally become the force they can be in the political process in these States………and whether you will say it or not, if your children have become more politically asture because of this race……you know darn well…you are smiling too.
So if you want 4 to 8 more years of the same ole crap, change your vote and put McCain in. Your kids and my kids have spoken in a loud voice, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Posted by: Bill Baker | June 3, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

kmclemore,
YOU ARE RIGHT. SO RIGHT. THAT’S REALLY WHAT COUNTS.
God bless all of you good people that see and fight for the truth and that make our worl move towards justice and progress.

Posted by: dude | June 3, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

First, I would like to state that the only reference made in the preceeding article that was accurate, was item 4. Hillary Clinton’s tactical strategy early in the campaign was to end it quickly, with big state victories.
Let me educate those of you who have responded, as well as Mathew Dowd!
The nomination of Barack Obama was not due to any “faults” of Hillary Clinton, rather through the manipulation of three men in the Democratic Party, who I believe hope to run this country with Barack Obama acting as their puppet. Thesewhom I’ll refer to as the “Thll had previous aspirations and failed attempts to win the Presidency themselves. They are;
Senator John Kerry,(D) Massachusettes,
who put Barrack Obama on the national stage during his own nomination to be the Democratic Party Candidate for 2004, by asking Barack to be key-note speaker at the Democratic National Convention in the Fall of 2003.
Senator Ed Kennedy,(D) Massachusettes, who was John Kerry’s mentor and he led the way for Super Delagates to shift support to Barrack Obama by endorsing him, even though his constituants voted in favor of Hillary Clinton.
DNC Chairman Howard Dean (D) Vermont,
the former Governor of Vermont, who was replaced by a Republican, Jim Douglas, may have been the most instrumental player in giving this nomination to Barack Obama. I say this because he allowed the voters of Florida and Michigan to be disenfranchised to the point where thier votes no longer had influence, regardless of how they may ultimately count or seat the delegates.
Florida and Michigan were the key. By not counting the delegates from these two states before the “Super Tuesday” primaries, Hillary Clinton appeared to be losing, when in fact she was far ahead in the popular vote and in the delegate count if Florida and Michigan were even partially considered. The press at this time was also extremely light on Barack Obama and openly anti-Hillary! Combine this with the absurd sentiment that former President Bill Clinton was racist, as the press would have us believe with the South Carolina Primary coverage and the momentum was gifted by the press, to Barack Obama going in to “Super Tuesday”.
I had planned to vote Democrat in this election, but after seeing how this party operates, I believe my vote will reluctantly be cast for John McCain.
If Hillary goes all the way to the convention and I believe she should, then my support would be for her and the Democrats.
I have to agree with a couple of the other responders, Jake who stated that Obama was the party leader’s choice from the beginning. Romeo and Susan who both point out that the party’s rules have serious flaws. Finally, with Seah and many others who point out that Hillary was up against Obama and the DNC machine!

Posted by: K.C. Jones | June 3, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Obama suppoerter time and again say that Hillary supporters can not take the simple fact that Obama won and Hillary Lost. and hence they want to vote for McCain.
No. You are wrong. HYou are just blinded by Obama – hence you can;t see what they see.
You will not hire a person with experience ( 143 days in senate ) as a CEO of your company. You would outright reject his resume. How come you select this guy? Ok you say look at his company that he keeps as a Harvard Law Graduate and professor. Wow ! do i say anything there?
No.
That proves our point to keep him out of the WH.

Posted by: Nimesh Dixit | June 3, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

I’m a proud card carrying republican who quite honestly paid no mind to either of the democrats. I assumed like most Hill supporters that we would get another Clinton after Bush to keep the family legacy going. Barack a poor mulatto with a good edcuation and nothing more of a dream of change today is the nominee. Wow! And to now hear people call him elitist, and out of tocuh in compare to the former first lady is laughable. It proves the media can influence the thoughts and minds of the avergae joe who is not capable of discerning facts from spin. Obama is a young man with a vision who has beat all the odds, so much so that people accuse him the underdog of cheating the privledged out of her right to the oval office. Wake up people. Please base your decision on facts, and not the Clinton machine. Barack is one of us, a regular American, who worked his way out of poverty. He will become our next president because those who can see beyond all the BS, will recoginze we cannot put McCain in the whitehouse. I a republic will vote for Barack Obama because he is the best hope for an anti establishment president who wil make good decisions on behalf of our kids. It is time for the young people to take the lead, this is their planet. Yes We Can. We really can if we can get past all of the petty in fighting between the woman, the black and the old guy.

Posted by: Obamamican | June 3, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

I really wish everyone was so passionate about politics when John Kerry ran against George Bush in 2004. Perhaps we would not be in the economic disaster we are in today. I would like to address those ANTI-OBAMA Americans. I would like all of you to go visit a veterans home and look in the eyes of those men and women who are handicapped and mammed. McCain wants this war to continue indefinately. Other nations are looking at us as an example, and we are too busy arguing about RACE & GENDER instead the rising cost of gas, uninsured Americans, and the war in Iraq etc..I wonder if we would be having this debate over electibility if Obama was an Biracial woman?

Posted by: Mercedes | June 3, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Jimbo
LMAO!

Posted by: Girgadis | June 3, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

TomG-
You’re right, but they are both just in different leagues than McCain. Hell, different sports; from poise, to polish, to stagecraft, to the obvious difference a little campaign cash makes.
We don’t vote for President’s anymore. The whole things a beauty pageant now anyway.
I think as the “heat” of the Democratic campaign subsides, people are going to take another look at McTroll and go – what were we thinking – we were going to marry that? Can you say prenup? Yep, war hero – got it, but still, this is prime time baby – and that was not prime-time ready.

Posted by: Derek | June 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Cindy McCain declared income of 6 million dollars in 2006. The Republican party truly represents you if your annual income is a million or more (and how many of us can say that).
I hope that when everyone is calmer, those whose annual income is less than a million dollars will realize that it does not make sense for them to vote Republican.
There is only so much any president can do – he needs to be able to pick competent people for his team. On that basis, look at the people who have been working for the candidates and think about it.
We need to work together for the good of the country, instead of for the benefit of the richest 300,000 who are genuinely entitled to vote Republican.

Posted by: 99bonk | June 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Number one she didn’t lose. She won the popular vote. Obama didn’t win anything but the right to be worshipped by the democrat party who have shown their complete take over by liberals. He was and IS the inferior candidate and November will show that once again the Democrats are so out of touch with average americans that they CAN NOT produce or provide a viable candidate. Congrats to McCain who will obviously will win huge in November. The Republicans thank you for making their job so easy once again.

Posted by: Paula | June 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Jimbo
LMAO!

Posted by: Girgadis | June 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

I don’t understand why so many HRC supporters are so anti-obama. they both admit that their stances on most issues are very similar. mccain, on the other hand, represents a completely different political outlook. how can people who “support” HRC, which i assume means they support her political views, how can they possibly support john mccain??
it appears to me that they are the ones voting in the cult of personality; something which HRC supporters accuse obama supporters of. they are just haters; it’s ridiculous.
and dangerous for our country.
go obama 2008. yes we can and yes we will!

Posted by: another obama girl | June 3, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Trust? It is well known that a copperhead will make a great point of actively biting at any given moment. If folks would really like to know about the clintons, they need to google ‘psychopath’ and see how dangerously close we have come. We are not out of those woods yet and not that most all politicians and many talk show hosts are not psychopaths, but Mz hilary gets the 24k blue ribbon. Check out the defination. Her colors were waving at the top of the mast when bill was gov. Her need then was not a marriage; it was ultimately the White House and ultimately THIS TIME AROUND. Though i dont have a lot of use for bill after watching his actions as he left the Big House, I feel sorry for him when it comes to the mizz and marriage. BTW – Use snake proof boots when walking in her territory. And i AM an expert on sleeze. A native West Virginian who loves this state. But we have elected governors and then had to send to prison, have senate and house of delegates who continue to be in the pocket of KING COAL where pillaging and murder reign, and possibly worst of all, elected that john d. rocky-feller IV twice as gov which cost him over 20+ million and then check how many millionS it took for him to buy his way into the US SENATE. and then quickly forget us, of course. So that is where I have learned about snakes in the grass that are vicious and venomous. There are plenty of copperheads out here in these east central mountains, but they are nothing.

Posted by: d hamilton | June 3, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Bill, you make good points, but you assume today’s youth is informed, and not merely stupified by a guy who makes a good speech and promises the proverbial change that every politician spits out every election cycle. The reality is that the internet has made today’s youth more prone to less critical thinking and more groupie like attitudes [Obama is a good example]. I can guarantee you Obama is the next Walter Mondale…

Posted by: lenin | June 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

I wonder if America is ready, really ready for the change that Obama “may”
bring with him. If we are as a country
then,we must acknowledge all the bad that has gone on with and within this
country, the division based on Ethnic
background (As U know there is only race of Humans “the Human race”), the
haves and have nots, the economy
and its downturn. We need to stop defining Our politicians by the Minister(s) and questioning their motives, and question G. Bush as to how it is the gas
prices increased 400% over the last 7 years!

Posted by: T. E Blackmon | June 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Regardless of who actually gets the DEM or REP nominations, regardless of who wins the general election in November, we as citizens have to find some common ground that we can agree on. No one man or woman is “IN CHARGE” of this country. We all have a part to play. If GOD FORBID something happened where we had no more government, how would our immediate lives be? Like this forum, with people spewing hate and taking horrible cracks at each other? Are we AMERICANS? Can we pull together no matter who is President and LEAD THE PRESIDENT and our governmental representatives to where WE should be? Everyone has part of the blame! Everyone has part of the answer! Will we look back on our behavior and our words and be proud or embarrassed? Seeking higher ground is always the smart choice when flood waters encroach. From what I can see coming up, Katrina was a romp in the sprinkler. Higher ground, people. You with me?

Posted by: Tracie | June 3, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

kudos to hillary.
and lets hope that obama doesnt screw up like the bushes did
would have been nice to see a woman in office

Posted by: happy | June 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

Amen Obamamican.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

I’m glad someone finally brought up Kerry, Kennedy and Dean. Don’t forget Al Gore, he’s behind the scenes too. Bill and Hillary are now finding out that what came around is now going around.

Posted by: RobZombie | June 3, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

I have been a democrat for sometime now. This election was very exciting and I truly hope that we can get a democrat in the White house. However, there was one thought that always daunted me. Obama and Clinton have very similar policies, correct. But, the big question, I think, is how would he react to stress and pressure. He smokes, and that habit could have been caused by stress. However, I don’t think smoking will alleviate any of the pressure in the White house, right? And there is one quote that comes to mind in this situation. It goes something like this (Pg 131, from the Rescue, by Nicholas Sparks):
“You’re going to come across people in your life who say all the right words at all the right times. But in the end, it’s always their actions you should judge them by. It’s actions, not words that matter.”
Hillary would do very well with this quote. Her actions speak very loudly, a strong fighter. But Obama’s actions aren’t as loud as his words.. His actions show us that he attended a church where a racist gave sermons to him for nearly 20 years. (A racist is an understatement..) What did he do, what do his actions tell us? His actions tell us that he did nothing. What do his words tell us? His words managed to swerve around the issue very elegantly, with his speech on race in Pennsylvania.
So, the choice is actions or words. And America has chosen. I suppose words spoke louder than actions in this scenario.
With that said, I hope that Obama can achieve the same results with his words, come November. Because this time, more than ever, we have this match up.

Posted by: Bler | June 3, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Thank god obama won, now McCain will take it all every last vote. See primaries dont mean poop never have never will… the lesser of the 2 evils will prevail mark it down in 2009 McCain over the top>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: Pvt1 | June 3, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

To BILL BAKER:
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!
Thank you for putting it so clearly for everyone to read.

Posted by: dude | June 3, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

MCCAIN 2008
God Bless America

Posted by: kisarita | June 3, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

One too many pantsuits.
Life’s a bitch but I just didn’t feel like voting for one. Even though Obama is half honky…he is all donkey and we need change. Hope somebody doesn’t shoot him. That would be very bad.

Posted by: Stu Pidasso | June 3, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

HillARy lost because she was talking like the south end of a north bound COW.
She was lying thru her teeth, if Bill wood have kept out of it and MONICA not mmenntion. She should go to CUBA where she was born and stay there South Bend dont even know who she is. Maybe if God is willing she will get what Yed Kenndy hhas, that should of happen 40 years ago.

Posted by: Roger | June 3, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

dear gk why are u so worried about what others have typed in their comments on the polls. are u some perfectionist or did u just get lucky with hooked on phonics signed
or are u counting the typos from others who arent perfect.

Posted by: happy | June 3, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

PLEASE ELECT OBAMA PRESIDENT! Sometimes the only way people will open their eyes is to be screwed over and realize it is to give them what they want. You can see it now as they bad mouth Bill Clinton. They know they voted for him. VOTE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and let judgement reign down on America for it. It wont be long until you regret him like Bill, only theres no going back this time!

Posted by: so happy | June 3, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

To “In the words of Bubba”, “Sally” and “Hayden”:
Are you people completely nuts? Clinton did get robbed and it’s a sign that we Republicans need to do some very serious poll watching come the GE. She won popular vote but got robbed by the DNC, party leaders and caucasus’s (which are FAR from fool proofed).
BO (as I like to call him, because he stinks) is EXTREMELY liberal, a voting socialist (look at his views and voting record, they speak for themselves) and a very dangerous man. Based on his “past involvement” with certain people, along with the fact that I always see his mouth move but magically he never actually says anything, and that ALL he says is rhetoric and “Yes We Can” (can what?), and “Hope” (hope of what? more taxes, U.N. control of our country and lives, more federal government control over our lives, our rights taken away, etc. etc., hope of what?)then I cannot see how any logical rationale human being could possibly fall for all his crap. He is so incredibly phony. Read his books and if they don’t scare the hell out of you then your ignorance is mind boggling.
And his campaign says it’s not about race, and yet about 90% of blacks who voted, voted for him? Are all blacks extreme left liberals, because I really didn’t know that, especially based on the fact of how many I’m friends with. Interesting. And as far as the polls go, it depends on who’s poll you believe. McCain is ahead in the polls that I trust. Those that are trying to “pursuade” your mind, have BO ahead over McCain. You also have to read the demographics of those who were polled.
And, don’t forget BO supporters, the dems have been charge of Washington for the past 1 1/2 years, so “today’s problems” are not all Pres. Bush’s fault. Oh, how selective your mind must be.
Anyway, to “In the words of Bubba”, “Sally” and “Hayden” and all of those others who voice similar weak arguments, way to go. Good job. You’re proof of the mindless masses that don’t know crap about anything, but still have the power to vote. Good for you.

Posted by: Always A Red State | June 3, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Why can’t we just get over the Obama/Clinton drama and kick McBush’s ass in Novemeber?

Posted by: Bella | June 3, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

go aheadand win for the sake of winning policies mean nothing to the dems anymore

Posted by: so happy | June 3, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Well, Barack Hussein Obama may have sealed the nomination, but it is the beginning of the end for this far left liberal.

Posted by: Albert | June 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

These posts are just getting nastier and nastier.

Posted by: Bella | June 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

SDO: I listened to Hillary’s speech and no way did she say she would support the DNC. She would be a fool to do so. Her best bet is to run as an independent to knock Obama out of the presidency. And if DONT HATE who just agreed with you doesn’t like that that’s too bad. This is a dog eat dog campaign and Hillary should go for the bone. Whatever they did to Hillary they deserve it back. An eye for an eye that’s the old way. And Obama is not going to do what he’s telling the people and like fools they are eating it up like a sandwich. What a mess this country will be in if he is elected president. If we are lucky McCain will win and clean up the mess. Otherwise we will do down in the gutter.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

I think the reason Hillary wants to be the VP is that she’s counting on Obama being assassinated. I don’t think there is any other reason she would take second place to a man she detests.
Why would anyone want another Clinton in the White House? So her hubby can have another chance to humiliate the U.S. in the eyes of the world? The sex maniac had eight years to do his damage. Now, give it a rest!

Posted by: Elizabeth Winchester | June 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Of course none of us know all the internal and external influences upon this race whereby we can make a wise assesment. Hope is always real as long as we don’t have what we’re hoping for. Go USA!

Posted by: Dors | June 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Sorry folks…..
I got a little wordy in the last round. This time I just want to say to those of you who always have to bring “kids” into the conversation, for example those who say it’s their planet… Why don’t you forego some ot the tax breaks you’ve been given all these years and pay down our national debt! I for one am sick of seeing the redistribution of wealth to all of these worthless parents who get the earned income credits and then take a vacation from the kids with the money!!!!! I am for many types of social welfare but this one doesn’t have enough checks and balances tied to it! I would Vote for any Candidate who favors the FAIR TAX and if you don’t thoroughly know what that is…Do Some Redaing!
Obama, Clinton, McCain, should all do some reading on the topic as well.

Posted by: K.C. | June 3, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Obama won regardless of his race, but because hillary only stated what people wanted to hear. At least thats what she thought most wanted to hear. Obama spoke reality. That the world can’t be perfect but we can work our way to pretty damn close.

Posted by: Lauren | June 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

I fear so many forget history. When the public asks you to represent them, you must first set your intentions aside and learn protocol. Now this is never something you learn strictly from a book of suggestions. On-the-job training becomes linked heavily with the manual of standard operational procedure. I believe Hillary has the experience and wisdom to act immediatly on any issue. Thus I see many more accomplishments in a much shorter period of time. I don’t really understand this push to have super delegates pledge before the popular vote is in from the people. (Remember us? For the people; by the people) Who exactly tries to insult my intelligence and talk to me like I’m one of those star wars soldiers who believed everything they were told and acted accordingly. Who said taking this to the convention is bad for us? I find that to be as ridiculous as voting for another party. I’ll stay home before I’d add my one to their numbers. If you allow yourself to be told it’s over before it is in fact over; you fell for a famliar children’s tale, cause this reminds me of “The Emperer’s New Cloths. Come on people, yes we need & want change. I’d love to see Mr. Obama be the vice president. He & Hillary collaborating. She knowing the proceedure to make their plans effective sooner than later. If then, he ran for this office again, I would take a good hard look at giving him my vote. I would feel much more comfortable knowing he understood all those unspoken rules of ediquette to keep his plans running smoothly. I just don’t have that confidence now. I want a Democrate in office at this point, I fear Mr. Obama will not represent the party as eliquently as Hillary. Experience for me is the deciding factor, followed by the strength & fight Hillary shows in the face of the media ‘telling us what is going to happen before it does.’

Posted by: JustTheFacts | June 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Good night all, and to the Barack fans, you know where your boy will be this time next year: footnote=also ran and lost a la Mondale..
Get used to this sound= President McCain
The better man will prevail..

Posted by: Lenin | June 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Wow! I was sure expecting a little more literary dialogue on a NY Times discussion board.
From the level of vitriol, it appears that maybe the most important function of this board is to you allow y’all to vent your frustrations so you can get over it and start healing!
Let it go! Yell, scream and hold your breath until you turn blue or the party gives in and selects your candidate! It’ll kill you if you try to stuff it down!
Really, we don’t mind! We’re all friends here! Then lighten up a little, hug your kids and smile!

Posted by: Michigan | June 3, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Wow. It’s a sad day in America when someone will change parties instead of voting for a black man.

Posted by: jacki | June 3, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

jacki is dilusional being BLACK is the only thing getting Barack voted in!

Posted by: so happy | June 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

How can HRC run the country when she cant even manage her campaign funds?

Posted by: jacki | June 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

Clearly today is a day of mixed emotions:
(Cut to one Hillary supporter acting hysterical) “Ahhhhhh!!!! Never Obama! Never Obama!”
But sir/madame Obama holds very similar viewpoints on key issues with Sen. Clinton. So would you say that even if Clinton is placed on the ticket as VP, you are willing to vote for McCain?
(They start ripping out what’s left of their hair) “Yes because Obama is not ready to run a country. He’ll run our country down into h###! Ahhhhhh!!!!”
(Cut to an Obama supporter) “Wait let me put down my Kool-Aid *wink* Today history was made. Barack Obama is the first African-American presidential candidate for a major party. It shows the world how much America has come forward to get to this moment.”
More on this story in the next hour.

Posted by: bspia2 | June 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

Lenin, Mariann………why don’t you bite yourselves.

Posted by: Just plain and frank | June 3, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Hillary lost because people just don’t like her. Barack is a likable guy. The longer the campaign went on, the more we came to dislike Hillary from her untruths to seemingly faked tears and topping it off with a shot with the boys! The average person just doesn’t like what seemed to be a very contrived campaign. We don’t owe her anything….she didn’t earn a nomination. Obama, a nobody, comes across as genuine and likable and the delegates agreed. Remember, the process is to secure delegate votes. Hillary knew the rules.

Posted by: judy | June 3, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Everyone wants to forget how things were fair up until the point HRC begin losing. Once she began to lose, she started raising the bar as if we could not hear nor see. That has been her from the beginning. First she disagrees w/the war in Iraq, yet vote for it; she agreeded with NAFTA, yet now against it; she agreed with MI & FL not being counted then it becomes important to count; she dodges snippers then she remembers there were none; she knows the total count should have been 2,025 then she states 2,018; she see’s Obama ahead in the popular votes then she counts MI & FL; she tells Penn she is a Penn then turns around and tell Ind she is a neighbor from Ill; she seems to tell the people what she thinks they want to hear instead of reality. If this isn’t being fickleminded I do not know what is. This alone should have been enough for her to lose the race.
But now, that wasn’t enough. She decided to target the dumb and poor. As the media put’s it (the uneducated). She felt she could tell the uneducated anything and they would buy it. Well, guess what? They did!
She told them what she would do for them while in reality she was being funded by special interest whom she would have to cater to first and foremost. Those special interest groups does not serve or represent any of the dumb, poor “Blue Collar Working Class” and the women voters.
Me myself never looked at her as a woman running for president. She never wore a skirt or dress during her whole campaign. She acted like a she/he. If I wanted someone that must position themselves in a man’s capacity then I prefer a man. It does not matter if he is Black or White, just a real male figure being what God has created him to be.
There is just to much liberation going on in this world today. I believe God had called HRC to do as she has done for Him to show HIS power. She keeps stating that a presidential candidate can not make it to the White House without the states she has won. But, “Through Jesus Christ who streghten’s us all things are possible”.
God is showing us what can be done HIS way, not ours. Let’s face it, there will be new states’ on the map for the road to the White House and journeyed to it fair and square. Obama has stayed hhis course with consistency, and without nasty tactics. He did not have tto through a kitchen sink at no one; he did not have to take lobbyist’s money, and best of all he did not have to attack his own partys’opponant to get ahead. The main thing I commend him for is for not bending to insult mine or (any of my family, friends or loveone’s that might be unfortunate in lacking education or wealth) intelligence by telling us anything we wanted to hear besides the truth.
Anyone who decides to jump ship because HRC did not win the nominee was not voting for democracy in the first place. This is not about a party’s interest, but about a nation’s interest. If Obama was Republican with his idea’s I would vote for him not because he was a Republican, but because of what he stand’s for. If McCain stood for the right change I would vote for him. If HRC had stood for the right change I would vote for her, but that was not the case for HRC or JM.
You can not get change if you keep putting in the same. JM is the same as GWB and the Clinton’s is the same. Obama may turn out to be the same or worst who knows, but I rather have something different jerking me than voting for the same jerk 3 times over.
He could be the one also, to bring about real change. Who knows? I am willing to try that change and so should you.

Posted by: Tina | June 3, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

As of 10:24 EST of the day of the last primary HRC is a grand total of 13,000 out of 34 mil short of BHO- not counting Michigan. I would be reluctant to try to read too much failure into how she lost the race. Considering the amount of hatred aimed at her by the Kennedy wing of the party 13,000 votes out of 34 million cast should put all pundits ill at ease in talking about her demise and campaign’s failures. It would behoove the Kennedy wing of the party to consider the potential for major long range shifts in loyalties coming out of how they have treated one of their strongest supporters over the years- feminist women.

Posted by: John | June 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Always A Red State: Your statements are true and I couldn’t say them better. Obama got a lot of free publicity from the media because they promoted him from the start. MSNBC, FOX, CNN and ABC. There was a lot of jealousy and hate for the Clinton’s and Dean, Reid and Nancy all endorsed Obama from the start. The media failed her and McCain and ignored them completely as the months went by. All you saw on the TV screen was Obama. I got so sick of seeing that face every morning noon and night. I am hoping Hillary will be smart enough to run as an independent because of the media and DNC even if it splits the democrats. I am a democrat but I also like McCain. Both McCain and Hillary are extremely experienced in foreign policy whereas Obama wanted to sit down with the enemy and talk business. If that was the case even though the war hurt Bush, he would have sat down with them. If he wanted to make that mistake what else would he do as president.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Yeah. Today is a day of VERY STRONG AND MIXED EMOTIONS. Just look at these posts! So hilarious.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Now that the democratic nominee has been chosen, not by the popular vote, but by “super” delegates, who have been obviously bought. I implore Hillary to run as an independent and not be involved with a party who will not do the bidding of the “people”, but have chosen to back Barack HUSSEIN Obama, who was not even known 4 years ago and was probably planted by terrorists. I for one will vote for the Bush Clone if the only other choice is Barack HUSSEIN Obama.!!!!!!

Posted by: Jan Alston | June 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I totally agree with “NOVOTE”. Hillary looks to have lost because of the DNC primary rules. Nevermind FL and MI, Hillary won the popular votes in both NV and TX, yet Obama walked away with more delegates. No one can explain that. We can go back and forth on why Hillary may have lost, we’ll just go around in circles, but what can’t be denied is the fact that the person with the most votes may not be the nominee. So why even vote when the delegates choose the nominee and not the voters? Actually, I’m still holding out hope that the Super Delegates vote with their brains, as Hillary will surely beat John McCain in November. Vote for Hillary for Democratic Candidate while in Colorado! To do anything else is just plain dumb.

Posted by: BillClinton | June 3, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Plain and frank= what an apt name!! is that the best you got?

Posted by: Lenin | June 3, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

To: “T.E. Blackmon” who spoke so forgivingly and lovingly until it came to Pres. Bush and then their “true colors” emerged.
For those who don’t remember, or who didn’t live through, President Jimmy Carter’s horrible, terrible 4 year term (you know he was a Democrat, and I suffered through those years), then may I remind you that we had gas lines 1 to 2 miles long and it was also rationed. You could not even fill up your car gas tank. And the price at that time, if converted to current dollar value (based on inflation, buying power, devaluation, etc.) was about the same as it is today. And dear T.E. Blackmon, that was 30 years ago.
Lord I get mad when people speak and don’t know what the heck they are talking about.

Posted by: Always A Red State | June 3, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

This is a nice analysis. Senator Obama is giving new hope and dream for new generation who wants change in all accepts of US society and rest of the world. He is also real representatives the ordinary people .I think that Obama will be definitely the next Mondale of US.

Posted by: suvas devkota | June 3, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

“You’re going to come across people in your life who say all the right words at all the right times. But in the end, it’s always their actions you should judge them by. It’s actions, not words that matter.”

Posted by: bler | June 3, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

If we are agaist Obama we get called a bigote … does that mean that every one that voted for Obama is black? If the man was white, I would not vote for him … I must be the only 31 yr old with a college education that will not vote for him. I am from FL, voted for Hillary and be damed if my vote will only count as half. The Dem party has forgotten that this is a gov of the people and for the people. I will write Hillary’s name on my ballot come Nov.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

I feel that the popular vote should have counted. Doesnt this show that our votes dont count but some delegates do. Also Barrack Hussein Obama voted for live birth abortions in his State; which means the baby is born and then taken to a cold table and left to die. In this way is not slaughtered in the womb, how compassionate osama is. Our newspaper had printed it the day after he had come to our city. I emailed the newspaper asking why the above abortion article in the paper wasnt printed the saturday before obamas arrival. I HAVE HAD NO REPSONSE. Yes we have made another big mistake which may never be fixed. People only thought of change, oh yes we will get change alright. Something we never expected etc. Thank you to the delgates/voters to nominated barrack hussein obama. Hope you will sleep good now. We need another person in power to say who will die(abortions) and who will live. So sad.

Posted by: Dave | June 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

If only she had divorced Bill and left his huge ego out in the cold, she may have had a chance. That would have shown the people she is not afraid of change.

Posted by: Kat | June 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Congrats to Obama! and to Hilary on her galant fight. But for me in the end all that matters is hopefully a democrat will win. America is proving that we are the land of the free and the home of the brave. It is good to see us come together and vote for what we believe in, being if it is a minority man or a woman. As an Black woman I was split on Barack and Clinton. I wanted them both to win, which they can if they come together and get on the same ticket.

Posted by: Diane White-Harden | June 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Mariann Pepitone, drop dead.

Posted by: Just plain and frank | June 3, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

From an Australian point of view, it was an excellent battle and I have thoroughly enjoyed watching how it played out. BUT you Americans have already had the Clintons in the White House for 8 years and I think the propsect of Bill returning for another 4 years was just too much. Obama is what I think you guys need. Fresh blood, young, energised, to reshape the country.

Posted by: Nola | June 3, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Get Real AMERICA. We are voting for the future of OUR country. Don’t be a
fool-hardy idiot and vote for a gender or a color. We have too much at stake: Our soldiers are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan – National Security – the Economy – the New faces of the homeless due to foreclosures – Poverty, et.al. Vote for CHANGE, Vote for HOPE, Vote for ABILITY and THE ONE WHO MODELS TRUE LEADERSHIP – VOTE for OBAMA.

Posted by: Claudia D | June 3, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

I’ve sat here and read some of the most HATEFUL posts I have EVER read. As a PROUD DEMOCRAT, I am so happy that this mess is soon going to be over. Some people are upset that an AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN will be the presumptive Democratic nominee – based solely on the color of his skin. Senator – PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE – Obama has said repeatedly that he is a CHRISTIAN, not muslim, and people need to STOP TRYING TO CONNECT THE NAME BARACK OBAMA TO THE ISLAMIC FAITH. Also, Candidate Obama ENERGIZED people to want to stand for CHANGE, especially many people who would not have otherwise voted. Both Obama and Clinton would be great Presidents, but you people who will jump ship off the Democratic party onto the Republican party because Obama won – and happens to be BLACK – are sad, racist examples of what is wrong with America today. It’s terrible that “Americans” such as these don’t want to unite the Democratic Party and would rather vote for the status-quo Washingtonian politics (read BUSH POLICIES) of republican (BUSH CRONY) John McCain because a BLACK MAN WON! You people not only should be ashamed of yourselves and your racist ideology, but maybe leave this great country of America and create your own country -Hypocritical Island. You so-called “democrats” make me want to puke. Thank GOD for Barack Obama and for all of the people who really want to make a REAL CHANGE for the betterment of ALL AMERICANS!!!

Posted by: Sanimac | June 3, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Anyone who is interested should look up the race between abraham lincoln, and seward for the republican party in the 1850s (very different from the republican party of today). Seward was a new york senator who thought he had the race in the bag because of his reputation and blew it. Lincoln was a little known illinois senator who had given a few decent speeches but had no national name and very little experience. That turned out fairly well. Coincidentally Lincoln also invited all of his political rivals to sit on his cabinet in order to keep the party from fracturing. Hmmm sounds familiar. Let’s see what unfolds.

Posted by: Ben | June 3, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Affirmative action extends to democratic circles. How else do you explain this?
For those HRC, I agree that there was a double standard.It stinks because that is what the media always did to Republicans until Fox News came along and hit everyone in the behind.

Posted by: Lenin | June 3, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Hillary lost the primary because of poor campaign management. The Obama camp developed a formula for raising money and campaigning that will be the new blueprint for the party. Hillary lost creditability with that sniper fire fiasco. It reminded voters how much the Clintons will lie!

Posted by: Darren | June 3, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Just plain and frank, ur being insensitive and rash and these kinds of posts need to stop.

Posted by: Lexy | June 3, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Kris you are right, and i support Hillary to, and yes will write in Hillarys name on the ballot in november to. Yes Hillary won by popular vote. Yes your right shows that the they are passing up gov by the people. Good article Kris.

Posted by: Dave | June 3, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Hillary lied, cried and alibied to make her point and it didn’t work. There was no ‘sniper fire’, Presidents shouldn’t cry unless it is for someone else, and her claim of being picked on
played the gender card, she insisted on counting votes that were disqualified and when she got her way she complained it wasn’t enough. CRYBABY! We didn’t need to hear any of this trash and I think Hillary gives all accomplished women a bad name. She should have divorced Bill on principle. Maybe then I would have had an ounce of respect for her.

Posted by: Linda | June 3, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Nola … your country has a great gov but since you don’t allow anyone to put ther two sense into what your country is all about “what makes you think that you can come on here and express your opinion” mind your own buisness.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Everything on this list of reasons why Obama is “in” and Hillary is “out” are collateral, tangential factors. First and foremost, Hillary voted FOR the Iraq War. She let herself get duped, when the vast majority of Americans were NOT duped. The American people knew the evidence was insufficient to make a case for a unilateral U.S. invasion. Polls showed the vast majority was against a unilateral U.S. invasion. Germany, France, the majority population in the UK, the majority population in the U.S. were all unequivocally against a unilateral U.S. invasion, on the date of the U.S. Iraq invasion. But Hillary voted for it. Not just once. But repeatedly. And Hillary was caught red-handed in the campaign, lying repeatedly about simple facts, like the hail of bullets she had to dodge in a war zone, which was supposed to show how much experience she had. People don’t like being lied to. Most people don’t intend to vote for someone who is so dim-witted that they can be easily duped, far more easily duped than the general public. The nomination results had absolutely nothing to do with sexism and had everything to do with competence and integrity, which Hillary was clearly lacking in.

Posted by: Reflecting_Pool | June 3, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Isn’t it time that America embraced a man of integrity and youth to lead our Nation? Isn’t it time that a man who has been raised to see many countries, cultures, and religions to be a leader of America,the melting pot? He will comprehend & understand the cultures far better than one has not been raised in such environments. He will be a good businessman that can manage America’s finances which is sorely needed now. Seems to me that there are more politicians in place who cannot manage their finances and with such weaknesses they are endangering our country’s wealth! It is time for Obama to step in and be the responsible man for AMerica.

Posted by: SIlverhawkflies | June 3, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

GOD BLESS OBAMA!
GOD BLESS ALL TRUE DEMOCRATS THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO MEND THIS COUNTRY.
WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO AND HAVE TO BE UNITED.

Posted by: dude | June 3, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

To: “Jacki”, when you said, “It’s a sad day in America when someone will change parties instead of voting for a black man” was somewhat amusing. Since you brought up the “race” card, then how come roughly 90% of all blacks who voted in the democratic primaries voted for BO? So, since they are voting for him because he is black (even though the exit polls say race is not an issue, the facts of the voting speak the truth), then why can’t someone NOT vote for someone because they are black?
If someone does not vote for him because he’s a far left socialist-liberal, you probably will think it’s simply because he is black.
I won’t vote for him because he’s dangerous for this country and my family.

Posted by: Always A Red State | June 3, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

I am not Anti-Hillary but she made major blunders for a senior senator.
Here are the following examples:
1. “3AM ad”: Negative
2. Bill Clinton’s “Jessie Jackson
remark”: Dismissive/ Slightly
Negative
3. “Bobby Kennedy Assassination Remark”:
Negative
4. “Snipper Fire Story”: Appeared
untrustworthy
5. During several debates, she could
have taken the high road but
she didn’t. Instead, she raised
questions about Obama’s
patriotism to gain momentum instead
of focusing on the issues.
6. “Hard-Working Working Class Voter”
comment: Divissive & Negative.
Asians, Hispanics, African-Americans,
& other races are hardworking as
well.
7. “Womans Suffrage” ploy: Appeared
desperate. Hillary is strong, she
should have conducted herself
accordingly.
Obama has his faults as well, but Hillary Clinton is the experienced veteran who campaigned w/ Bill when he ran for Govenor and President. Moreover, she is seasoned from campaigning for senator of New York.

Posted by: Mercedes | June 3, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

All of the Dem canditates made an agreement to take their names off the Ballot in Florida and Michigan. Only one person failed to live up to that agreement.
I voted for Hill in the California primary and as time went on and I saw how she was willing to say or do anything to win. I wished I could have a do over. But, had she won the primary I would have voted for her no matter how much her tactics sicken me. Because her values and values of the Demorcate party are closer to mind. My mother taught me it is a bad idea to bite off your nose to spite your face.
So for all of you who claim to HRC fans, why would you hope for defeat of a person who values are closer to you than McSame? What point will it prove?
If you were voted for her just because she is a women and do not share her values, that would make sense but that is not what you are saying. So explain it to all of us who make rational decisions. Or we may wind up thinking that you are having a hissy fit.
Here is my idea. Think about your values the thing that you believe in, the things that you want not only you for your children and grandchildren and everyone that you love. Listen to both of our choices, go back and read what they have said. Don’t fall for the emails that said it ture (I have never had one that I checked on that was true) find out for yourself and then vote. Read the platform of each of the Parties, that will tell what the people in that party stands for.

Posted by: Anita | June 3, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Conservatives must write in their own candidate. McCain is not a true conservative. Join me and let us write in Mike Huckabee, the man who should have won the republican nomination.

Posted by: Conservative Bob | June 3, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

She is a weak candidate? Are you kidding me? He BARELY beat her. Where do you get off calling her weak? They are separated by little more than 100 pledged delegates and the popular vote difference is nothing more than a sliver. Check yourself. And you fools keep right on bashing her even though it is going to cost you Hillary’s supporters which will cost your messiah the White House in November. Idiots. People like you make me hopeful that Hillary takes this all the way to the convention and raises hell.

Posted by: William82 | June 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Interesting comment, K.C., except for one thing: If Obama is so unelectable, then why did the DNC party leaders select him? Their only goal must have been to get the Republican elected in ’08.
Maybe that’s what’s been going on for 8+ years: Gore owned the election in ’00 but by following the bad advice of his campaign squad, threw it to Bush. He handed it over on a silver platter.
Kerry could have trounced Bush in ’04, but didn’t have enough intelligence to select a team that could make sure his a$$ was covered against a flanking maneuver.
Clinton had every reason to stroll through the USA to the DNC nomination, but the people she chose to surround herself with were so full of hubris that they didn’t realize what it would take to get NEW voters to the polls.
So, as I always ask in these cases: Why would you feel sorry for someone who was so inept that he/she didn’t see what could happen and take action to prevent it? Why would you want that person as a world leader who loses so easily to those who don’t play by the rules? The least that any of these candidates could have done, if they really gave a rip about their constituency, is realize that their rivals were ready to do ANYTHING to win and be ready for it. (Even those rivals who drew out the formerly cynical by preaching the audacity of hope.)
And I absolutely have to echo the astonishment of the people who wonder how someone could be so petulant that they’d rather have 4-8 more years of neo-con power than vote for the man who beat their “special princess.”
Any Democrat who votes for McCain will have blood of innocent Americans on their hands – from the perpetual war, crappy medical system and near total loss of what’s left of our civil rights.
McCain himself may be a moderate, but he will owe the Republican party machine for any laws he’d like considered and passed by Congress, and these days the GOP is still run by the “White Makes Right & God’s Gonna Kill Everyone I Hate” crowd. And, if McCain is an honorable man, he will pay his debts.
Remember – When you marry the Groom in this courtship, his whole family moves in with you.

Posted by: Spike | June 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

The critical point is that Obama is an extreme left candidate (not to mention any cultural dissonance he and his associations engender). Some pundits can predictably be counted on to chalk this up to racism. A factor, no doubt. But, just as McGovern and Dukakis, he is NOT acceptable to many traditional middle of the road Democrats. I expect a lot of ticket-splitting as he goes down in flames while the Congressional Democrats enjoy a landslide. Hillary might not inspire much enthusiasm but she could have effectively ridden the coattails of this Democratic wave.

Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | June 3, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

I am not Anti-Hillary but she made major blunders for a senior senator.
Here are the following examples:
1. “3AM ad”: Negative
2. Bill Clinton’s “Jessie Jackson
remark”: Dismissive/ Slightly
Negative
3. “Bobby Kennedy Assassination Remark”:
Negative
4. “Snipper Fire Story”: Appeared
untrustworthy
5. During several debates, she could
have taken the high road but
she didn’t. Instead, she raised
questions about Obama’s
patriotism to gain momentum instead
of focusing on the issues.
6. “Hard-Working Working Class Voter”
comment: Divissive & Negative.
Asians, Hispanics, African-Americans,
& other races are hardworking as
well.
7. “Womans Suffrage” ploy: Appeared
desperate. Hillary is strong, she
should have conducted herself
accordingly.
Obama has his faults as well, but Hillary Clinton is the experienced veteran who campaigned w/ Bill when he ran for Govenor and President. Moreover, she is seasoned from campaigning for senator of New York.

Posted by: Mercedes | June 3, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Hillary Clinton was raped by the new medi. The ADHD generation that put her over the top does not have the attention required to keep up their inexperienced candidate’s very weak surge. If he is the best, why hasn’t he been able to close the deal? He has not been vetted and I am sure there is filth in his closet, just waiting to be revealed by the Republicans in the fall.
John McCain, a man of integrity, experience and honor will throw Senator O over his knee and spank him soon. What fun! And then all the rats who deserted the best candidate, the lady who WON MORE VOTES THIS PRIMARY SEASON TTHAN ANYONE IN HISTORY, will be sorely mmissed. By then it will be too late. LLeave it to the Dumocrats to screw up athe best chance they have ever had for ccapturing the WH

Posted by: Kali | June 3, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Hillary wanst allowed to win by the powers that be,,because they knew she would fight for change. We dont elect presidents anymore,,they are appointed with false numbers etc. Most of us older folks have come to recognise this. What has Obama done? Not a thing but distance himself from clergy. Obama is exactly the same as bush,,we are in a world of hurt now!!

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Barack Obama won the nomination because he had the unilateral support of the elite liberals of the party-George Soros and the entire MOVE ON.org membership base. Obama has no opinion on the real issues in our country. He just supports the same old Liberal policies. He is the perfect puppet for George Soros and the other semi-socialist/die hard atheist multi-billionaires who control the Democratic party. They knew Obama would not have a blind shot in hell of winning the nomination without their support. Thus Obama will owe them for the rest of his life and will do everything they want. The problem is that these people want a worldwide liberal, secular society governed by the elite. They want population control through socialized medicine which will kill off the elderly as they wait for transplants or chemotherapy. They want alternative energies because they own all of the major companies producing ethanol, solar energy, wind power, etc. If Obama gets elected, the world is one step closer to oblivion. If Obama loses the election, jaded die hard liberals will destroy our country from within so either way we are screwed. Obama is nothing more than a pawn in the Democratic party. All of the real power lies in the billionaires’ hands. They have purposely destroyed our economy by overbuying oil and other commodities, short-selling the dollar against every other currency, short-selling collaterized debt obligations which destroyed the housing market as well as many banks and investment banks, and have invested heavily in China and other developing countries instead of the United States. People like George Soros and all of the other liberal elite make me sick. They directly harm our economy then they blame the Bush administration and Republicans for their actions all so they can get a Democrat, who is a semi-socialist/atheist as well, elected as president of a country where over eighty percent of the population believes in God/religion. They did the same thing in regards to the Iraq War. They voted in favor of it but let Republicans set policy. Then they had their media outlets attack the War every chance they could from the start of the 2004 primary till today. They mislead the public into thinking that we can withdraw when we can not since Iran or terrorists would take over the country. Iraq isn’t even a war anymore. We already defeated Iraq’s actual army and now we are policing the country, which is more dangerous since they are being told by our media that our troops are trying to steal their oil and rule over their country. If we wanted to rule Iraq in a dictatorship it would be easy-use Saddam’s regime as an example-especially since we are much more advanced. Building a democracy is extremely difficult in any country. It took years in our own country. We can not give up on the innocent Iraqi civilians who deserve our support. It makes me sick that Democrats have used the deaths of our soliders for their own political gains. Their political attacks have emboldened the insurgents and have cost the lives of many of our soliders. WE CAN NOT LET THESE PEOPLE GAIN POWER OVER OUR COUNTRY. They will destroy our democracy and Obama’s election is the first step.

Posted by: Matthew | June 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Tina: You don’t know what your talking about. Obama has not won the presidency yet and may not if Hillary runs as an independent. That would knock him clearly out of the presidency and his arrogance. Its people like you that are a ruination to this country that would vote for a former racist, anti-american and hated white people himself. Read more about Obama and find out the facts. He is not the sweet sweet boy you think he is. He is very underhanded, cunning and played dirty pool to a woman running against him for the senate which was on the news a few days ago.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Hillary Clinton was raped by the new medi. The ADHD generation that put her over the top does not have the attention required to keep up their inexperienced candidate’s very weak surge. If he is the best, why hasn’t he been able to close the deal? He has not been vetted and I am sure there is filth in his closet, just waiting to be revealed by the Republicans in the fall.
John McCain, a man of integrity, experience and honor will throw Senator O over his knee and spank him soon. What fun! And then all the rats who deserted the best candidate, the lady who WON MORE VOTES THIS PRIMARY SEASON TTHAN ANYONE IN HISTORY, will be sorely mmissed. By then it will be too late. LLeave it to the Dumocrats to screw up athe best chance they have ever had for ccapturing the WH

Posted by: Kali | June 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

I believe the media was largely to blame. The fact that she seemed inevitable and thus not make for a good story made the media fell uneasy. after the Iowa victory, even though Hillary won the next contest Obama was already being compared to jfk. after that first contest it was just the fact that, yes even though Hillary had the advantage of being a woman and no one wanting to make that an issue, or seem like they were picking on her due to gender bias, Obama had the advantage of being an African American and no one wanting to seem like a racist for questioning or opposing his views. It is easier to get away and being discreet with being seem as sexiest than being seen as racist. Too bad for our country we are so self righteous. let’s see what the future brings with either another republican on the house or an inexperienced amateur who no one will dare criticize nor question due to race.

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

People who make fun of Obama’s name and roots are uneducated idiots. Everyone’s name and background was predetermined for them. It is what a person becomes and how they are willing to serve others that makes them great.
All our names came from another country originally; as did our ancestors. Let us listen and watch this man and not throw away our vote by either not voting or voting republican/independant or writing in a candidate. OBAMA HAS HAD AND WILL HAVE MY VOTE. His name will become a household word.

Posted by: Linda | June 3, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Hillary lost because Blacks ruthlessly kicked her to the curb. Nothing more. However, as a Hillary supporter, I can only say that the vicious, shameful tactics used by Obama’s supporters to just absolutely smear Hillary since South Carolina make me say that hell will freeze over before I vote for Obama. City councilmen have been vetted more than this guy and I, for one, will never, ever vote for him.

Posted by: john | June 3, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

To: “Silverhawkflies” and “Dude”,
How do you think BO can possibly “mend” this country and bring all of us together? Seriously, do you really believe that? Why, because BO says he can? Because he says “Yes We Can” so often that he actually believes it?
He cannot even get the popular vote of his own democratic party. He’s so far left that he’ll never bring the republicans to “unity” with him. That’s a pipe dream at best. His campaign and supporters have alienated many voices of women all across this country. Unity, seriously?
There’s wishful thinking and then there is reality. Have your dream, but I live with reality.

Posted by: Always A Red State | June 3, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

IMAGINE: Not a single vote placed and the following came out:
1. Wright
2. Fledger
3. Ayres
4. Michelle being “proud”
5. Liberal Voting Records
6. Media Love Affair with Obama
Hell when he finally got vetted it was 40 PRIMARIES, 20 DEBATES TOO LATE!!

Posted by: marshiel | June 3, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

It’s a sad day, I do not think Obama is right for the job and it has nothing to do with the fact he’s black. Hillary would have been a wonderful president and would have been the CHANGE we really need. A wasted nomination.. I honestly believe that Obama will not be able to beat McCain come November.

Posted by: Meshell | June 3, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

I’ve read so many comments it’s overwhelming. I’ve tried to follow the primaries and have come to this conclusion. That we still have a long way to go when it comes to being the “United States”. We are so divided on so many issues that it is mind boggeling.
Whoever eventually gets to the white house will certainly get my prayers. Leading a such a Great country as the United States is no easy task. Reguardless who becomes our nation’s leader for the next 4 years. I will be at peace. My faith and confidence is not in any man or woman no matter how powerful,but in God Almighty.
America needs to show a better view to the world. Let’s stay united in spite of our differences.
Trusting the True power

Posted by: Trusting the True Power | June 3, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

His name will be a household word alright. It will be synonymous with how the democrats blew their chance at the White House in this election.

Posted by: William82 | June 3, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

I can’t believe the way the media played this campaign. Barrack is racist, unpatriotic and inexperienced. If Hillary would have said anything about a typical black person it would have been all over but the crying. But reverse racism is rampant these days. The media glossed over the typical white person statement and his unpatriotic way of turning away from the flag when the national anthem was played. Both of these things were very telling about his character. They also glossed over his close friendship with a man who is both a racist and fanatically anti-american (at least towards the governament). He was his close friend and pastor for 20 years. The pastor in question has been spouting his racial hate and fanatical and distorted views about the government for years. If Obama was so appalled and disagreed with what he was saying he would not have attended his church for 20 years and allowed his children to learn and hear his fanatical sermons. You cannot be close friends with someone for over 20 years and not know thier views. If he didn’t agree with him he would not have stayed friends and attended his church for so long. Politics made it impossible for him to continue this friendship. Another very unsettling thing about Obama is his connection with Oprah! She now has a cult with her own religion. Can anyone say Mel Gibson. She has been very active with his campaign. He is not keeping company with good people! America, wake up! What are you trying to let in the front door of our country! I will not vote in this election if I have to choose between another Bush and Obama.

Posted by: heather113 | June 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

FOR ALL THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS THE BEST THING TO DO IS WRITE HER IN AS AN INDEPENDENT. THAT’S WHAT ME AND MY FAMILY ARE GOING TO DO. IF ALL HER VOTERS FROM ALL THE STATES DO THAT SHE MAY HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING HIM OUT OF THE PRESIDENCY. OTHER THAN THAT IF SHE DOESN’T RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT HER VOTERS COULD VOTE FOR MCCAIN. BUT THAT’S BETTER THAN OBAMA. AT LEAST MCCAIN HAS INTELLIGENCE ON HOW TO RUN THIS COUNTRY.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

I am shocked and appalled by the horrific treatment Senator Clinton has received in this country by the same people she has been helping for so many years. For shame! She is the best candidate for the job, and my children and grandchildren should only be so lucky to have her be the first lady president of this great country. That young man, Senator Obama, is a weak candidate with no experience except a speech he gave once. Shame on the media, shame on this country for throwing away the greatest opportunity to move us foward.

Posted by: Mrs. Lila Abramowitz | June 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

You BARACK OBAMA supporters are so HATEFUL, NASTY and DOWNRIGHT INSULTING to the supporters of HILLARY CLINTON. Did it ever occur to you that to win in November, you’re going to NEED the votes of the half of the Democrats nationwide who voted for CLINTON? Your UGLINESS really doesn’t help your candidate, who is definitely going to lose if you continue to act as you have. Do you really think you are going to pull in the votes of these DEMOCRATS, who you attack worse than you have ever attacked JOHN McCAIN? Unless he has no character whatsoever (and encourages his minions to do his dirty work for him), I should think that BARACK OBAMA would be totally ashamed of his “supporters” on this site and their counterproductive postings. Uniting the Democratic Party with the kind of tactics you are using is like trying to push water uphill. Keep it up and you are, unfortunately, going to hand the general election over to McCAIN. (And then, of course, you will play the race card again). And you will have lost not just because you have disgruntled Democrats who sit on their hands and contribute no money and who stay home on November 4; it is because, like your candidate says, people of all political persuasions are SICK AND TIRED of this kind of politics. And, mark my words, you will generate a backlash. Do you OBAMA supporters really believe in uniting the county, or is the way you are “uniting” the Democratic Party right now a true (and shameful) example of your actual approach to campaigning?

Posted by: centurion | June 3, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

I am so disappointed that Hilary didn’t get the nomination.She was our only hope.She is a true American.I am a Democrat, but I will vote Republican now.

Posted by: Lynn Herndon | June 3, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Hillary is a LIAR!Who would wan`t a President who would create a lie as she did.”I was under Sniper fire”.nobody asked for that lie

Posted by: Brown | June 3, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

GOD BLESS BARACK OBAMA AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: Henry T. | June 3, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Very well said, So Happy Quote: To “In the words of Bubba”, “Sally” and “Hayden”:
Are you people completely nuts? Clinton did get robbed and it’s a sign that we Republicans need to do some very serious poll watching come the GE. She won popular vote but got robbed by the DNC, party leaders and caucasus’s (which are FAR from fool proofed).
BO (as I like to call him, because he stinks) is EXTREMELY liberal, a voting socialist (look at his views and voting record, they speak for themselves) and a very dangerous man. Based on his “past involvement” with certain people, along with the fact that I always see his mouth move but magically he never actually says anything, and that ALL he says is rhetoric and “Yes We Can” (can what?), and “Hope” (hope of what? more taxes, U.N. control of our country and lives, more federal government control over our lives, our rights taken away, etc. etc., hope of what?)then I cannot see how any logical rationale human being could possibly fall for all his crap. He is so incredibly phony. Read his books and if they don’t scare the hell out of you then your ignorance is mind boggling.
And his campaign says it’s not about race, and yet about 90% of blacks who voted, voted for him? Are all blacks extreme left liberals, because I really didn’t know that, especially based on the fact of how many I’m friends with. Interesting. And as far as the polls go, it depends on who’s poll you believe. McCain is ahead in the polls that I trust. Those that are trying to “pursuade” your mind, have BO ahead over McCain. You also have to read the demographics of those who were polled.
And, don’t forget BO supporters, the dems have been charge of Washington for the past 1 1/2 years, so “today’s problems” are not all Pres. Bush’s fault. Oh, how selective your mind must be.
Anyway, to “In the words of Bubba”, “Sally” and “Hayden” and all of those others who voice similar weak arguments, way to go. Good job. You’re proof of the mindless masses that don’t know crap about anything, but still have the power to vote. Good for you. End Quote.
People better get your heads out of your A**s and smell the coffee, something wicked this way comes…appearances are… deceiving.

Posted by: Pvt1 | June 3, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Nice try, will you analyze the General Election defeat tomorrow? The DNC just threw in their hand.

Posted by: Here we go again | June 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

20 I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.
21 This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.
22 The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.
23 Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
24 It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
25 There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.
George Washington
United States – September 17, 1796

Posted by: FLMAN Greg | June 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

not getting my vote i’ll tell you that much. that way when the economy gets worse, the war is still raging, we are in another great depression and we lose the next election, the senate and everything else to the reps AGAIN, my conscious will be clear

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

For Always A Red State, 90% of African Americans voted for Obama, not because he’s black. We saw the true cut throat politics of the Clintons. African Americans initially supported Hillary, but she played on the fears of white people by associating Farakhan, with Barack. It made me sick to my stomach! That’s when she lost my vote.

Posted by: Darren | June 3, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Why does everyone keep insisting on calling Obama “the black” Presidential nominee?
The man is half white! Maybe you don’t know that since he obviously is ashamed of that fact and only presents his “black” half. After all, he did sit in a church for 20 years listening to a preacher who hates “white america” and wants God to “damn’ us.
Your people are fools. Following after Obama like he is the pied piper.

Posted by: Cathrine | June 3, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

HAVE MERCY ON ALL WHO REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE CHANGE. REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU SAY OR WHETHER YOU CHANGE FROM DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN, BECAUSE HRC IS NOW GONE–THIS CHANGE IS HAPPENING NOWWWWWW. SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO ABOUT OBAMA. HE IS HERE AND SO IS THE BADLY NEEDED CHANGE. CONGRATULATIONS OBAMA…IF GOD IS FOR YOU……WHO CAN BE AGAINST YOU? (NOBODY) SO VOTE FOR MCCAIN IT WON’T MATTER THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PRAYED FOR……..CHANGE.

Posted by: DEVYNE | June 3, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

John: You are right. I wouldn’t vote for Obama either. Hillary didn’t win the nomination but neither did she concede so she must be planning something else. And the nerve of the Obama camp stating that they would offer Hillary the VP only if she refuses. Can’t Obama speak for himself? Who are the supporters make that suggestion. Hillary’s supporters are different than Obama’s. Obama will lose a lot of states without Hillary campaigning for him and I know for a fact SD, WVA and KY are just three of them mainly because he is not white. They are not afraid to say it either.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

I have never seen so many racist people on here who just wont come out and say that they WONT VOTE FOR A BLACK MAN………

Posted by: TexasBlackTea | June 3, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Hillary lost? How did that happen.Maybe she has been planning to become president since the year….. Oh what a strong lady she is for keeping her promiscous husband. “obama got good media coverage”, isn’t that funny. I bet he just got into the minds of all the networks or perhaps he owns most of the media. If so he deserves to be president. President bush should try and own the media. What a lovely president who goes on the news and says I was not lied to. The intelligence was flawed. What happens when you make mistakes. Do you keep making the mistakes or try to say sorry? Obama is americas new rise. americas real hope. Drop all the sentiments. Face your real future. Do you want america to continue this way? I dont think you would. America has always been a symbol of peace love and freedom. But today those qualities are fast fading? I am not an american. Neither do I wish to be one. I’ll tell you this. The name America has always been a symbol of beauty. Don’t let it fade away. Take off your sentiments. Look ahead. Bring back the real America. I wish you all the Best.

Posted by: rez | June 3, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

All the Hillary Supporters are just airing their feelings right now. It’s been a long uphill battle. If you think that any Democrat in their right mind would put another Republican in the White House, War Hero or No War Hero, than you have “Mad Cow” just like Denny Crane! (ahaha…we needed a little humor in this blog it was really getting a bit too heavy) But seriously, things will settle down in a few days and we will ALL rally together and by shear numbers, push the Republicans out of office!! Na Na Na Na…Na Na Na Na…Hey Hey Hey … Bye Bush and take the rest of the Elephants with you!

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | June 3, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Another reminder: Primaries are not elections. They are tools used by the Parties to decide whom they -might- run as their candidate in the election. The fact they the parties get us taxpayers to pay for their beauty contests shows how friggin’ duped we Americans have become.

Posted by: Spike | June 3, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

not racists, realists..

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I’m walking away from my party!
They have let us down again in another election, way to go DEMS, and Mr Dean!!!
Give me a half a vote, you will see what happens in the end. You won’t be getting FL vote, or PA, OH, TX, Etc Etc, good Luck!
I love that people think we are just going to withdrawl from Iraq, go grab your TV dinner, and watch more American Idol, you got him.
2012 HILLARY!!!!

Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

This whole primary season has been skewed tremendously by the news media and their relentless pursuit of novelty. First it was Hillary Clinton who got unbelieveable amounts of free press ever since she was elected as an inexperienced, carpetbagging junior senator from New York, covered because she was a woman with a famous name. Initially, she was anointed the “inevitable winner” by the press, until they noticed that someone even more novel was running, a completely inexperienced black man who can give a good speech. The press began covering him extremely closely and favorably, patting themselves on the back about how “progressive” they and voters were for daring to vote for a black man in America. All of the truly experienced and knowledgeable Democratic candidates were virtually ignored by the press, making it impossible for them to break through. This obsession with novelty, which is extremely reminiscent of the pop phenomemon of American Idol, led to Hillary and Obama being the only Dems the press let people consider.Electing the President of the United States is not something that should be left to the Flavor of the Month club. We have to consider what we know about the candidates, their proven experience, and their true views. We are left with Obama on the Democratic side; he has served in the Senate for essentially only one year, and has not done much while there. We have no real record of voting in the Senate to consider in trying to understand if he is truly a reasonable person, or if he perhaps truly agrees with radicals like Rev. Wright. His rating as the most liberal Senator by the National Journal makes it very worrisome that he may indeed be UNreasonable – we just don’t have enough data to make a decision. Can we really elect a candidate with ONE year of true experience who is very likely very extreme in his views? This is a very scary election.

Posted by: Doc Savage | June 3, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Mariann, you just truly hate Obama, don’t you? Where are you getting these accusations? Out of the air!? Racist against his mom or grandmother. What is the world coming to!?

Posted by: Just plain and frank | June 3, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Yes, he won on hope with a few character smears thrown in. I do not see any change at all.

Posted by: dmoran | June 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Hillary Clinton is the true winner of the Democrat primary, had the primary been run with fairness and dignity. It is a disgusting message that the DNC and Senator Obama have sent out my children–that your vote DOES NOT count in this country, and all that matters is that you are the right “cultural stereotype” for the job—including President of the United States. Senator Clinton is the most compassionate, experienced LEADER for our Commander in Chief. I for one will NOT vote for Senator Obama. I will instead, vote for John McCain, a man who has worked across party lines, tells it like it is, and o, by the way, I live in Florida. Senator Obama did NOTHING to get our votes to count, and yet he supposedly would work for all of us. That is such hypocrisy! I will teach my children about honesty and standing up for truth, justice, and the American way, which Senator Obama and his minions obviously have no idea how to do. Senator Clinton has my respect and my vote. I hope she goes to Denver and kicks those Obama-ettes to the curb! I will then show my children a REAL winner! Go, Senator Clinton!! Denver! Denver! Denver!

Posted by: Disenfranchised | June 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

It’s convenient for you to label those of us who won’t vote for Obama as racist. Call us racist if you choose, but my not voting for Obama doesn’t have a damn thing to do with the color of his skin. If Hillary happened to be black and she was up against an inexperienced white man, I’d be picking the experienced black woman in a heartbeat. Get a grip and drop the REVERSE RACISM!

Posted by: William82 | June 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

I still can’t believe what democrats did. How can they expect Obama to win in November. He can talk. That is all he can do. 4 years back Kerry was the one. He could talk. But when the moment had come for him to talk, he could not win Americans confidence. Remember four years back what changed people’s opinion… the last minute video of Laden. When we needed support from the presidential candidate, Kerry just mumbled. Whereas, Bush already proved. That was the turning point. For that single move, we are suffering today.
Today, the country needs a leader, an experienced politician who can act, not a Orator. A leader who can bring the jobs back to people.
Democrats had a chance to pick a candidate who could bring democrats to power again, they missed it. I wish Obama wins this November.

Posted by: god help america | June 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Simple…Voters realized that Obama is a better candidate.

Posted by: mampang | June 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Texas Tea.. what an ignorant statement, just because we realize that Obama isn’t right for the job we’ve got to be racist.. unbelievable.

Posted by: Meshell | June 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Won’t vote for a black man? Please stop trotting out that snotted rag, is he not the nominee?
He is not everyone’s cup of tea, get over it.

Posted by: Oh my gosh | June 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

To all the “Hillary didn’t win, so I’m voting Republican” simpletons chiming in…You don’t realize how childish you sound. I didn’t win the game, so I’m taking my ball and going home. Obama and Hillary both said many times they didn’t differ on that many issues. I dare say they share far more positions with each other than with John McSame. If you don’t grow up and mature at all before November, go ahead and vote for Bush III. It won’t matter much anyway, you’ve already proven you’re good at picking losers.

Posted by: Steve | June 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

A vote for McCain is a vote for a 3rd term for Bush.

Posted by: quickphil | June 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

It Is what it is for years we have had old men tell is whats right now we had and old lady tell us what is right and it not working in this day an time Ipod yes walkman no

Posted by: jevom | June 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Doc
California
$100 for McCain
Match my donation!
http://www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: Doc Savage | June 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

the choice of the people has spoken and they have choosen obama, give him a chance, everyone else had a chance. it shouldn’t matter what color the skin is we all bleed red blood……obama 08……………..junglist

Posted by: junglist | June 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Personally I am for Obama, but all the mudslinging against Hillary is not Cool! She isnt the canidate for me but people are entitled to their opinions. Disrespecting someone because they dont agree with your choice in canidate is just plain wrong and a tiny bit childish. I dont want to see McCain in office but HRC ran a good campaign and she should be praised for it. Now the Democratic party needs to UNITE and move on!

Posted by: Shenika | June 3, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

This racism must stop!that is why this country is falling now.STOP THINKING YOU ARE SUPREME PEOPLE !!!!! YOU ARE NOT.It`s time for a black Man to Win
HA HA Hillary “LIAR”

Posted by: Brown | June 3, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Don’t vote for McCain just becouse you don’t want Obama … write Hillarys name on your ballot. The will of the people can still win. Go Hillary.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Do not be affraid HRC. You are fenomenal, I am proud of you.

Posted by: INDO45 | June 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

instinctly ,Obama is a leader , hillary is a politican , Simple . and American need a leader to make change . Obama is dome a hero of the time . I am a chinese came to live in the USA just a year but I see it since early this year.
Hillary made many strategic mistakes and not innovative , she is lack of the talent to make a change , although she is very ambitious to carry her carrer on to the position of presidency . But personal dream should be in the second place before national dream : that is teh dream of the majority of Americans .

Posted by: George Zhang | June 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

I didn’t read all the comments but the ones I read were quite good. I stopped reading when I was reading and obsrved that sentences were starting with And, I knew I was reading crap from someone that was uneducated. How do you get a job working in that field if you don’t know the difference between too, to and two? Hillary was beaten because she and family believe they are the solution to ride the power of the liberals and uneducated non productive feeders off a society. There is a bigger man for the job and he is now in the lead. When people here change, and I think that was what Hiler was selling, they fail to listen to the whole sentence. Change the constitution, reverse the American revolution, or change the balance of power in the world? Will the sentence be completed before it is too late to go back?

Posted by: Stephan | June 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Brown
It’s people like you walking around with this unwarranted chip on your shoulder that cause the problems.

Posted by: William82 | June 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Kris, great idea! I intend to do just that!

Posted by: heather113 | June 3, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Hillary lost because she did not have the support of the Democratic Party…plain and simple. Here was this strong woman, a lawyer, intelligent and a Mom who put herself out there to for everyone to see exactly what she stands for and the Good Old Boys just ignored her. It was similiar to the time they ignored her when she voiced her opinion when her husband was in office. Americans were in a much better place during the Clinton years, at least I was able to have a savings account with money in it!
Obama appears to be very bright, but honestly I have no confidence in his ability to run this country. Frankly, I am fearful. This is based on everything that I have read about him in his book and from the press. Thank goodness that some Democrats such as Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania had the courage to stand up and be heard for Hillary. I only hope the Super Delegates
vote for the best candidate – HR Clinton – let us see if you have the brass ones to stand up and vote for the best person for the job. If not, I am sending my donation to John McCain.

Posted by: CAM | June 3, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Barack is smarter than McCain. McCain is not economically savy. He wants to extend Bush’s tax policy, which is bankrupting our treasury. We’re barrowing more than what we bring in. The Iraq War is costing $12B/mo. The budget defecit is getting wider. Everyday people are losing their jobs. Barack is going to have an organized plan. McCain is going to have nothing.

Posted by: Darren | June 3, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

That Hillary is a fighter! I would want her in my fox hole any day; but then again, maybe the golden tongue Obama could talk his way through a bonzai charge. Don’t give me that race crap either; those Tuskogee Airmen knew how to ram a Mustang right up Hilter’s white Aryan as_ with the best of them.
Hey, naive Obama supporters, ask a Pacific WWII vet about talking to fanatical Japanese soldiers willing to die for their emperor. LOL. Do we really want Obama to grow up behind the wheel of the presidency?

Posted by: Go Figure | June 3, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

A lot of people are saying that many Clinton supporters will vote for McCain come November. Well, my grandparents and many of my friends who are Hillary supporters and/or usually vote republican, are voting for Mr. Obama. As am I…

Posted by: Colin | June 3, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

If Hillary had been a male, she would
have been treated much differently and
would have prevailed.

Posted by: Lim | June 3, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

I don’t think it was the hope. It was the testosterone. Obama fared much better with men while Hillary did much better with women. And I don’t think they were all voting for a “mother” figure.

Posted by: dmoran | June 3, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

CONGRATZZZ MR. OBAMA!!!! OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU NOW & ALWAYS….THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US THAT THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE !!!!

Posted by: BEA | June 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Its so sad another 4 years of a Republican in the White House.The Clintons have done, So much for this Country, I have been so mad for 8 years. about my partys foolishness. have any of you young dems. heard of Ross Perot. americans never learn. I for one will vote republican, something just feels wrong about obama

Posted by: oregon | June 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Obama supporters, After tonight’s celebration it’s time to get back to work. We need new voters to be registered to replace the few angry (and bitter) Hillary supporters who wont’ vote for a mixed race man. It won’t be many of them for sure, but we need to focus on November now. I suggest we stop trying to convince these upset Hill supporters like the ones on this blog and turn our attention to new blood. Like their candidate they are stuck in the past and fail to see that a new day is dawning. Allow them to rant and wallow in self-pity and threaten to vote for McSame, our response should be to sign up new voters and people who have been disillusioned by politics in the past.

Posted by: Carol | June 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

To Joan and other Clinton supporters who say they’ll vote for McCain (seemingly out of spite):
I understand you are disappointed, but will you really vote for McCain and cause thousands of American soldiers’ and Iraqi and Iranian civilians’ unnecessary deaths, just because your candidate lost?
If so, shame on you.

Posted by: Tom | June 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

I KNEW IT!!!! As a Black republican I predicted that if Hillary lost most of her supporters would jump to the GOP ship (THE SS McCain). However, if the Obama had lost, most of his supporters in particular his Black supporters would have voted for Hillary in the GE. Why? Most Black people support the Democratic Party come hell or high water. So welcome all of sour Clintonites. In the words of the Motel 6 commercial “We’ll leave the light on for ya”.

Posted by: ROB 06 | June 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

I have such respect for the way Hillary Clinton conducted her campaign. But, the electorate want change – they don’t know what kind of change, just change! Too bad we can’t be smart enough to vote for competence and skill. And Obama will be “mothering”……please, there are many mothers out there who do more than make empty promises – they have real solutions.

Posted by: mrs b | June 3, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Wow. It’s a shame “ANY” idiot can vote in this country. Most of you can’t read or write correctly… much less make an educated decision.
Obama has no experience. He is selling false hopes and dreams. The democratic party will LOOSE THE ELECTION come this fall. We should have had the next 8 years hands down. The republicans will eat OBAMA alive… the truth will come out and his “negatives” will be LIVE AND OUT FRONT for all to see.
How many reading this post have ever started a “new” job/career. How many new jobs/career’s have you had? There’s such a thing out there commonly referred to as a “ramp up” period. Some jobs take 2 weeks… some 2 years. We don’t have time for some newbie that needs to learn the ropes that really has no idea how to make things work across party lines being in the white house. Sure, he has a lot of great ideas… but putting them into effect is a whole different ball game. SORRY guys but life nor politics are that simple. This is devistating for the country, the party, and all of our futures.

Posted by: suz | June 3, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

I have a question for VA Ind. and others not supporting Obama because you don’t trust him. What don’t you trust? If you say his religion (Muslim), his friends (opinionated black men, some white), or his lack of experience (what exactly has Hiliary GOVERNED), then I have to interpret your response as based on race, not racist but race-based.
So, I have two questions: Why don’t you trust him? and Why is it that you can’t admit that race plays a role in why you don’t trust him?
The reason I think Obama supporters keep bringing up race is because we read through the “code” language that white America has been able to use in politics for decades without being called on it. There is no way that a true moderate votes for McCain based on what he is saying he will do. So the fact that you want me to think you are a moderate but are abandoning the Dems, makes me actually think you are afraid to have a Black president.
Prove me wrong and have some principled reasons to be against Barack. I’ll give an example so you know what I mean: an Appalachian voter on a message board was tired of being called racist and wrote a great post about Barack’s stance on coal and how that was completely against her interests. That’s principled. Telling me he’s inexperienced and not telling me why that matters is a cop-out. Give details Hiliary supporters. What are his positions that you have problems with?

Posted by: Obama's my man!! | June 3, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Hilary lost it the second she didn’t publically leave Slick Willy after Monica “I did not have sexual relations with that woman – how do you like my cigar” Lewinsky. How can anybody respect a person who stayed because they liked the perks of the office?

Posted by: paul221 | June 3, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Yeah, yeah yeah, all Obama losers out there: Now comes all the manipulations and guilt trips on the Hillary supporters. OOOOOOOOOOOoo the Hillary supporters are sore losers, the Hillary supporters are racists, ooooo, the Hillary supporters are evil old losers.
Keep it up, kids. I will remember every filthy thing you and your dirty campaign has called us, and I will be happy to repeat all the slurs and insults when you come SUCKING UP for MY VOTE AND MY MONEY in NOVEMBER–WHICH YOU ARE NOT GETTING!!!! You are losers, all of you! You have created your own stinking cesspool of hate and division and racissm, and you will pay for it in the GE when your annoited candidate loses! Personally, I have nothing against the Senator–he is being used as a pawn–but I will be very joyful when his team is beaten soundly by one of the two adults in the race, John McCain. I am a proud Hillary Clinton supporter and I will never vote for your guy.

Posted by: Get Over It! | June 3, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Hillary is a self serving, dangerous dictator, whom believes that she is the next Christ. Gone…I hope..with her self serving arrogant husband, Bill, whom also believes he is the chosen.
PLEASE… Let these horrid people go! And , yet, I feel a bit bad for Chelsie, who has been used and abused, and seems to have grown up into a fine woman. Hope that she will never take after her mom or dad!
Go for it Chelsie! Do your own thing!

Posted by: wini | June 3, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

And everyone forgot the Oprah factor. Oprah drops a book title on her show and it sells 10 million copies. If she can make Dr. Phil a household name imagine the possibilities.
Way to go Donkey’s you handed the white house to another republican with all your name calling and division. Just as well as McCain will see us out of Iraq with some dignity and without having the blood of a million Iraqi’s on our hands..
Don’t think the world watches CNN? It’s getting mighty quiet in Iraq and aweful noisy in Iran. It’s bad enough that Hamas backs Obama but now with Jimmy Carter’s endorsement get to know John McCain real quick kids.

Posted by: McCain 2008 | June 3, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

LOL…What makes anyone think God is for Obama…..

Posted by: FLMAN Greg | June 3, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. DOWD WRONG. HILLARY DIDN’T WIN BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT THE PEOPLE’S CHOICE PERIOD!

Posted by: Drae | June 3, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Carol, you seem well spoken and educated, but then there you go and show your level of ignorance by throwing out that race card. How pathetic, what a shame..

Posted by: Meshell | June 3, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

I was never a Hillary Clinton supporter. I would have voted for Obama if he would not have run such a nasty, hate filled, sexist campaign. Obama is the republicans answer to George Bush. The lies just roll off both their tongues. Democrats criticized Republicans for voting for a man like George Bush and now turn around and vote for Obama. They both ran the same kind of campaign. Both have big money behind them. The media chose both candidates. This is another Democrat who will be voting for John McCain in November. Country over party.

Posted by: Julie | June 3, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

THE LADY HAS “BAGGAGES,” AN “IMPEACHED” PAST PRESIDENT HUSBAND, LAPSED OR SELECTIVE MEMORY – ACTING TALLENTS – HOWEVER SHE IS A LADY, A WOMAN, NOT THE RIGHT FEMANIST! THE QUESTION IS – “CAN HILLARY CLINTON EVER WORK AS #2, CAN SHE FOLLOW SOME ONE ELSES PROGRAM, PHILOSOPY OR IDEOLOGY? I THINK NOT – GIVE HER THE PORTFOLIO OF HEALTH, THE SECOND LARGEST PORTFOLIO IN THE U.S.A., HOWEVER KEEP BILL AWAY, OR HE WILL GET HIS NOSE OR “CONSULTING HATS” IN THE WAY. WE NEED THE CLINTON AND THEIR SUPPORTERS, HOWEVER WE DO NOT WANT A “PROJECT” TO POLICE HER, TO MANAGE HER, TO CONTROL HER, TO MAKE SHORE THAT SHE CANNOT REPAY ALL HER “I O Us” OR FAVOURS. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | June 3, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

For all your Clinton supporters who are planning to vote for McCain in general election, why? Are Obama’s policies closer to Clinton’s or to McCain’s? I’d think after 8 years of Bush WH even republicans do not want to vote for McMain. Why do you, as Democrats want to vote for McMain? Listen to him speaking, analyze his policies, look at him in the eyes and then close your own eyes and take a deep breath, do you really want McMain to be the president of the United States? Do you truely think he has the capacity and the intelligence to be the president of United States? I do not. I predicted that Bush’s presidency will be disater because he was not presidential then he is not now. Then listen to Obama’s speaking, analyze his policies, look into his eyes and then close your eyes, take a deep breath and ask yourself “is he presidential?”. I am sure your answer will be YES. CHANGE WE CAN.

Posted by: Denny | June 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

catherine: They call Obama black because half of the people don’t know that he is Mulatto. He is the offspring of a black/white marriage. The media is afraid to use that word because the blacks would be offended but that is what he is. He is not the first black man to run for this office, Jessie Jackson was and he is all black and not Kenyan. Obama is half white half Kenyan. He was really born in Kenya but his mother registered him in Hawaii. There is a lot to read about him and it is in his BIO that I read in the NYT. If the superdelegates had of supported Hillary tonight she would have won the nomination. She won in SD by a good margin. Obama was in this race to make history. He read many books on MLK that his mother gave him and he wanted to be like him. If you notice him speaking he tries to speak like MLK. If Hillary doesn’t work with the democrats Obama will lose the presidency because he needs her to campaign for him. SD, WVA and KY stated they do not vote black so he has a problem there plus her voters stated they would switch to McCain. McCain is a good man, much better than Obama and McCain doesn’t try to be like another person he is himself like Hillary is herself. I don’t know if you are aware of the fact that Obama studied the speeches of RFK so he would know what to say on the platform and also of MLK. Those speeches came from others. Obama cannot form the words for a speech. God help us if he wins the presidency because I pity this country.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Hillary would make an excellent Supreme Court Justice. Hopefully, that is in her future. I think the VP job would not be something that would really suit her — she would be bored in a matter of minutes, much less 8 years. But on the Supreme Court she could matter in a big way — for life.

Posted by: Dolph T | June 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Repeating the disappointment of the majority, our family still puts Hillary as write-in on the ballot. Go Hillary!!

Posted by: Dave | June 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Can someone please explain to me what all the complaining is about the democratic nominating process being flawed? Did we all forget back when Clinton was in the lead she had no problem not counting Florida and Michigan votes and she agreed with the parties rules, but when Obama started to win she threw a tantrum and screamed not fair. I would have respected her and pushed for her and Obama to be on the same ticket, but now I don’t think so. There has been a lot of talk about women not voting for Obama and voting for McCain, if Clinton does not get the nomination. I would like to think that today’s women are not dumb and stupid, if they are, none of them should have any complaints about the economy, women’s right, gas prices or the war if McCain gets elected because they would have contributed to his win.
A woman with a brain

Posted by: A woman with a brain | June 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Maybe Obama is the real villiage idiot, and he will lead us into the year 2012 vote republican hillary supporters

Posted by: oregon | June 3, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Repeating the disappointment of the majority, our family still puts Hillary as write-in on the ballot. Go Hillary!!

Posted by: Dave | June 3, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Sally:
Get off Janet’s back, will ya? And what’s more, do you have any respect for the unborn?

Posted by: Matt | June 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE ONCE GREAT “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” OBAMA.I MUST SAY THAT YOU ARE A GOD GIVER.AND THAT EXPLAINS THE SIMPLE DIFFERENCE BTW YOURSELF AND THE MAN GIVER CLINTON THE LOSER.LET THERE BE PEACE IN THE WORLD.YES WE CAN

Posted by: babe jay | June 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

What if ur BLACK … what’s the big deal? This has been and will be a great country and we did not have Obama or his wife “proud to be an American” LMBO statement. Be happy and proud to be an American and not on an African nation … nations with a great gov, lol.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

All I have an idea, instead of posting all of the moronic statements and distaste for either candidate what are the real issues that this country is facing? In the end, no one candidate will perform any action that anyone of us would like for them to perform. Wouldn’t it be nice if instead of spending the hundreds of millions on these campaigns it would be donated to maybe the country’s debt or maybe schooling or perhaps dealing with homeless situations? Possibly for once we the American people would get our heads out of our behinds and do something like stand together before trouble hits rather than during or after this country would be in much better shape. The bottom-line is, at the end of this election and the next President’s candidacy almost none of the general population will feel anything different unless we become better ourselves. If we are democrats let’s be democrats – division is the best way to bring down a collective – funny a collective I thought that’s who we were…

Posted by: D Walker | June 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Give the majority of Americans who they want…..

Posted by: majority voted for Hillary | June 3, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Some of the posts here are the most ignorant things I have ever heard. I bet if Obama was a white man named John Doe there would be no problems. HRC is a great woman, and I applaud her for what shes done for this country. If people would stop being so ignorant and give people the opportunity to be different, this country would be better. Some of you naysayers who think Obama is Muslim, or think you know what he believes, are just plain stupid. How about you go and run for President, and see if you can do any better. Sitting at home criticizing and trash talking is not helping this country, its only further dividing us.

Posted by: Marine2002 | June 3, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

I would just love to know why everyone is so quick to accuse people of being racist who won’t vote for Obama but, no one ever says one word about the very racist practise of 90 percent of black voters voting for Obama when they are not even usually 90 percent democrat to start with. Which is more distrubing? I think it is equally racist to vote or not vote based on race…maybe more black voters should consider that.

Posted by: Paula again | June 3, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

what a racist bunch of americans, just admit that obama’s color is the real reason you don’t want him in the white house. I hope he has plenty of security because I smell another assasination coming on!!! I’m young, I’m hip, and I can f’n’ spell, so watch how you judge us– Obama ’08!!! Hell, y’all hated the Clintons when they were in the WH because the blacks loved them, and now Hillary has shown her true colors, she’s no different from what you all claim Obama and his wife are, Forget Hilary, I NEVER liked her, even when I voted for her husband!

Posted by: shoreanjl | June 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Racism is alive and well in the Democratic party. It wouldn’t matter if Obama rolled over in W. Virginia or Kentucky they still wouldn’t have voted for a black man and it has nothing to do with them being Blue Collar workers. Hillary is a poor and soar loser and she’s acting like Gore in the 2000 election and she needs to stop and grow up and stop throwing temper tandrums in trying to take this to the Convention. She needs to stop!! It’s time to stop!!! This isn’t even a general election!

Posted by: Shame on Hillary | June 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Hillary has shown again her overweening arrogance and egregious hubris in her belief that she has a divine right to the presidency. She is painting herself int the pirah corner which she so richly deserves.

Posted by: RM | June 3, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

You idiots that put Hillarious above the Democratic party are imbeciles. Your vote shouldn’t count anyway. What a bunch of pig-headed sore losers. Go ahead and give it to McSame…keep our boys in Iraq, and let them die because you’re a mass of immature crybabies who didn’t get your way. See, that response is about as appropriate as so much of the crap that I read here. Jeez.

Posted by: LaughingMy***Off | June 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Shame on the Democratic Party to create such a mess! The worst politics in 50 years. Well when its all said and done . this country will be further termoil. The reason Hilary lost is that too many Americans WANT change so bad that their minds become cloudy as to what the president of the United States responsibilities are. Who has the most experience , the commmander in chief! Obama played the “pitty me “card , wolf in sheeps clothing over this Trinity Church ordeal ! All I can say is for those of you backing Obama you thought Bush was bad , you not seen anything yet !

Posted by: brandi | June 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Shame on the Democratic Party to create such a mess! The worst politics in 50 years. Well when its all said and done . this country will be further termoil. The reason Hilary lost is that too many Americans WANT change so bad that their minds become cloudy as to what the president of the United States responsibilities are. Who has the most experience , the commmander in chief! Obama played the “pitty me “card , wolf in sheeps clothing over this Trinity Church ordeal ! All I can say is for those of you backing Obama you thought Bush was bad , you not seen anything yet !

Posted by: brandi | June 3, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Paul221
Thousands of woman stay with their cheating husbands every year. If you are basing your decision solely on that you are an uneducated dumb ass who should leave the voting to the intelligent people.

Posted by: heather113 | June 3, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

I am a woman of the 21st century. Under 35 but too old to be ranked in with the likes of the 20-somethings. I am pretty independent and think there should be a woman President at some point, but from the start I couldn’t stand Hillary, and that was mostly because of her husband. And there are a lot of women out there like me who can’t stand her because of a dislike for him. You can’t separate them. She wins, he does too as first guy.
I don’t like any of the Republican candidates either with the exception of Ron Paul because he has heart. But there is no way in h*ll that I’ll vote for McCain. So it looks like Obama has my vote.

Posted by: michelle | June 3, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

this is a reply to folks like mariann and mike.I was 4 years old when martin luther king was assassinated.most of my life i have been a republican,served my country in the gulf war.voted democrat once for an inexperienced former govenor from arkansas.militarily he sucked.economically he inacted the nafta free trade agreement.this policy and the subsiquent policies of the current administration have allowed for china and india to become the new economic super powers of the world.we need change,we need hope… and 30 years after the dream.its become a reality that is bigger than hillary clinton.cause she did think it was her time.that she could just step to the plate.then along comes barack obama and deeyaumm”a black man’s stealing my show

Posted by: djohn | June 3, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

wini, you frighten me. But then, you are an Obama supporter, so that is certainly something you have been very well-trained in, I’m sure (I’ll be waiting patiently for you to suck up to me in November)
To Tom– I am always amused when I read how many Obama supporters pull out their bag of tricks: GUILT AND MANIPULATION! Item: If the American people TRULY wanted the Iraqi war to end, they would have overwhelmingly voted for John Kerry, But noooo, they were just worried about abortion and gay marriage. They got the government they wanted. MY CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR. There is NO BLOOD on my hands. If the Iraqi war goes on for eternity, IT WILL BE THE FAULT OF THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS! They took a perfectly good opportunity to win the WH with Hillary and demanded that their young, unvetted man was the better candidate. We are under no obligation to support your candidate. It is the fault of the Obama supporters if the Iraqi war continues under John McCain. I hope you can sleep nights with all that guilt. AS for me, I will sleep like a baby, knowing that I supported the BEST candidate for the job, Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Kitty Foyle | June 3, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Amen, D Walker!
No matter who wins, nothing will change if we, ourselves, individually, and collectively, are not willing to change.

Posted by: Tracie | June 3, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

i think obama will win. the united states president should be a male. after all, he will be the most powerful figure not only in the states but worldwide as well. it’s really different when the us president is a man

Posted by: alvin | June 3, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

CALL HIM JIMBO or BO or WHATEVER…..
GET READYYYYYYY TO CALL HIM—MR. PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT OBAMA DID YOU REALLY THINK IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN OR MAYBE YOU NEVER READ”…the first will be last and the last will be first” THIS IS TO ALL YOU HATERS THE JOKES ON YOU, SO SUCK IT UP….YOU CAN’T KEEP A GOOD MAN DOWN If you watched the television tonight, it looks like the majority of his supporter are white, rather than black,,,,WAKE UP O’ SLEEPING PEOPLE YOU’RE ABOUT TO WITNESS A REAL MAN. So call him Mandigo if you want but prepare your ears for a new sound……PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hayden | June 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

How or why would anybody expect President Hillary Clinton to do the right thing when she acquiesced in the transgressions against her by her loving husband? Being President of the United States means making tough decisions – really tough decisions. I do not know if Mr. Obama has the personal convictions to make really tough decisions; however, it should be apparent to every American female voter at least that Mrs. William Clinton couldn’t even make an easy decision when she was publically humiliated. If Hillary didn’t even have the personal convictions to stand up for herself during the Lewinsky affair, what makes American voters think she will stand up for them?

Posted by: paul221 | June 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

I am a maverick voter and usually vote against people and rarely support anyone. Hilliary conducted a sleeze campaign against OBAMA and did everything she could to provoke and use the racial card,,Voters are tired of the old prejudices and want to hear what the candidates have to say and what they propose…Hilliary is not strong enough on her own and would be asking every 5 minutes the following:
Bill, what do I do now??
also her sleezebag horny husband would be back in the white house looking for interns and Hilliary would have to wake up every night looking to see if Bill is in the Bed with her..
There are many stories about strange activities in Arkansas back in the 80s and that is scary enough,,,
OBAMA is not a Beltway inside and that is refreshing,,,I am not happy with the ministers who he was previously associated with but they will not be in the white house,,His change of churches is reasonable,,,I know he will surround himself with reasonable people,,
WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT HE MAY THINK GOVERNMENT HAS ALL THE ANSWERS,,, Raising taxes to raise taxes is not the answer,,,More efficent govt is the answer and a smaller lean govt is the answer,,,He hopefully will come up with some creative unique interesting solutions and not rely upon the usual govt incompetant hacks for solutions,,
We shall see ,,,,let the madness begin

Posted by: alonzo | June 3, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

If the Democrats lose in November, they need to take a serious look at their primary calendar. I think Iowa (I graduated from U of Iowa)and New Hampshire have way to much influence in determining the nominee. Without Iowa, I don’t think Obama would have been the nominee. He needed that bit of initial momentum to be placed on the same level as Clinton. Obviously, it also slowed Clinton’s momentum and destroyed her plans.

Posted by: iahawk86 | June 3, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

This is to much even for me … better to go to bed then to waste my time with you 90% voters, lol.
Please folks … don’t waste your votes in Nov … write in Hillary’s name on your ballot.
and with that thought …
Good nite and sweet dreams to you all … blacks, whites and what ever else.

Posted by: Kris | June 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

you should all think about going outside.

Posted by: endtheinternet | June 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Print Matthew Dowd’s biased propaganda some place where people will actually believe his snakeskin rhetoric. I’m not buying what he’s selling. And tell Mr. Murdoch he can’t pull the wool over everyone no matter how much money he has.
One Important Detail on the Dowd article: The polls in Montana and those in South Dakota had not closed when he published his article! That should make you seriously doubt his integrity and honesty as a journalist.
Don’t listen to unethical members of the press like Dowd has shown himself to be.
Check dates of postings and see who is paying them before you believe what is in print.
Hats off to Senator Clinton for her awesome persistence against the media fakes like this writer Dowd and his irksome pals.

Posted by: RU86 Serious | June 3, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

For all you Hillary kool-aid drinkers who keep waiving the “18 million voters” statistic… here’s a little factoid from the DNC:
Votes without Caucus States:
Obama 17,389,253
Clinton 17,364,667
Votes with Caucus States:
Obama 17,745,430
Hillary 17,616,750
States Won:
Obama 34
Hillary 20
The figures above *include* Florida and Michigan. Me thinks the people have spoken.
Cheers!
Bondtrails

Posted by: bondtrails | June 3, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Yes, I hate Obama. What they’ve done to get nomination leads me to hate him more than ever before. I will vote for anyone in Nov….just not Obama!

Posted by: McCain 2008 | June 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Yes, I hate Obama. What they’ve done to get nomination leads me to hate him more than ever before. I will vote for anyone in Nov….just not Obama!

Posted by: McCain 2008 | June 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

First, CONGRATS to BARACK OBAMA!
He ran a race of character and grace. He has been strong in tough times and imbearable moments that many would have given up and went home. He delivered grace in the line of fire and derrogative treatment. He has stood, though he realizes, AS WE ALL DO, that there are people out there (SOME OF YOU POSTING)who are without a doubt racially motivated, yet the blood of white and black flows through his veins.
REALITY CHECK, NONE OF US ARE WHO WE APPEAR TO BE. We are Americans, we ARE “the MELTING POT”. Our blood is fused together in a way that we have a little bit of everything in it! SO get over yourselves! So, Hilary didn’t do it! But if she did, I believe Obama and his supporters would have stepped up and GRACIOUSLY voted for her to prove to the Republican machine that we were not going to lay down and be trampled for another 4 years by this ridiculous war, this damaging recession, and this pitiful excuse for leadership! But YOU didn’t get YOUR candidate and now refuse to vote for the one who did win.
WHY?
He’s a Democrat!
He’s an American!
He was intelligent enough to win the campaign, strategize, and raise more money than ALL the candidates (Democratic or Republican)!
Why do you snarl at supporting your democratic nominee? You would turn from your party to support the enemy because your choice didn’t win?
WHY?
Is it because….
He’s inexperienced?
Yet, he strategically beat the experienced…
He’s a MAN?
Yet, he was raised by women, surrouded by women, and addressed this country with the same hope and encouragement that mothers give to their children everyday!
He’s BLACK? (legally speaking, because frankly we are ALL multi-cutural!)
Thankfully, we have just acknowledged a man who is brought CHANGE even in that arena. He will,NO, WE will not let YOU sad, pathetic, single-minded people hinder the change due to this nation. The rest of will embark upon this opportunity to finally step into a NEW age and out of this old racist format.
Look AROUND, all of these beautiful arrays of colors, races, and cultures are here to STAY! We accept change, we accept hope…
… and we ACCEPT BARACK OBAMA AS THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE!
AMEN!

Posted by: YoMo | June 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

She lost… right? I don’t understand what the problem is?
You can call Obama anything you want as long as it ends in Mr. President!
He will be YOUR president.

Posted by: skip | June 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Very bitter PILL to swallow for Hillary supporters…..get over it. If you want vote for Mcain and i will still be happy that it will not be that mean looking Hillary in the white house. I guess we are still ready for another Bushlike term just to avoid a humble black man…Shame on all of you Obama haters.

Posted by: fanny | June 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Any Hillary supporter who votes for McCain out of spite has absolutly zero common sense. How is voting for a Bush clone like John McCain going to make you feel better about Hillary losing the nomination? In the end she still won’t be president but now you’ll have good ol trigger happy John McCain in office. I can’t think of a more flagrant example of cutting off one’s nose to spite their face. I don’t get it. Are you people for real? The overall goal here is to get the republicans OUT of the white house. Haven’t these 8 years taught you anything? You are acting like children.

Posted by: Ryan | June 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

MATTHEW,
AS A NATIVE AMERICAN WE TEND TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY ! CHECK OUT THESE NUMBERS AND TELL ME WHO WOULD YOU SUPPORT:
JOHN MCCAIN :1517 DELEGATES
HILLARY CLINTON :1915 DELEGATES
BARACK OBAMA :2146 DELEGATES
Now, let us turn that into the years 1517, 1915 or 2146 – I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT MOST AMERICANS WILL GO FOR THE FUTURE! A LITTLE HUMOUR IN STATISTICS. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | June 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

if obama was white he wouldnt have got any more votes than john edwards did and probably not as many ,the change that obama voters voted for was from white to black .

Posted by: jesse e thompson | June 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

First, CONGRATS to BARACK OBAMA!
He ran a race of character and grace. He has been strong in tough times and imbearable moments that many would have given up and went home. He delivered grace in the line of fire and derrogative treatment. He has stood, though he realizes, AS WE ALL DO, that there are people out there (SOME OF YOU POSTING)who are without a doubt racially motivated, yet the blood of white and black flows through his veins.
REALITY CHECK, NONE OF US ARE WHO WE APPEAR TO BE. We are Americans, we ARE “the MELTING POT”. Our blood is fused together in a way that we have a little bit of everything in it! SO get over yourselves! So, Hilary didn’t do it! But if she did, I believe Obama and his supporters would have stepped up and GRACIOUSLY voted for her to prove to the Republican machine that we were not going to lay down and be trampled for another 4 years by this ridiculous war, this damaging recession, and this pitiful excuse for leadership! But YOU didn’t get YOUR candidate and now refuse to vote for the one who did win.
WHY?
He’s a Democrat!
He’s an American!
He was intelligent enough to win the campaign, strategize, and raise more money than ALL the candidates (Democratic or Republican)!
Why do you snarl at supporting your democratic nominee? You would turn from your party to support the enemy because your choice didn’t win? (He will win in November, if ALL DEMOCRATS will support him. Hillary needs to ensure that!)
WHY?
Is it because….
He’s inexperienced?
Yet, he strategically beat the experienced…
He’s a MAN?
Yet, he was raised by women, surrouded by women, and addressed this country with the same hope and encouragement that mothers give to their children everyday!
He’s BLACK? (legally speaking, because frankly we are ALL multi-cutural!)
Thankfully, we have just acknowledged a man who is brought CHANGE even in that arena. He will,NO, WE will not let YOU sad, pathetic, single-minded people hinder the change due to this nation. The rest of will embark upon this opportunity to finally step into a NEW age and out of this old racist format.
Look AROUND, all of these beautiful arrays of colors, races, and cultures are here to STAY! We accept change, we accept hope…
… and we ACCEPT BARACK OBAMA AS THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE!
AMEN!

Posted by: YoMo | June 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Obama can not get elected–It will be the largest defeat of any past candidate. Benjamin Franklin must be turning over in his grave.

Posted by: Hal | June 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Saint Lucia welcomes the DNC nominee the great Barack Obama. We all love you and support you.

Posted by: Joanne in Saint Lucia | June 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

tired of the if you don’t like obama is because you are a racist.. so i guess if you don’t like hillary you’re a closed minded bigot that has no respect for the value and potential of women??

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

as for blacks voting based on color, this is the only time that can be said, because from the time I’ve been able to vote there have only been white candidates, so when has color been an issue in voting other than now, and please don’t even include Jackson and Sharpton, and Sharpton didn’t even support Obama, so when??? The blacks voted for Clinton- is he light skinned… just checking

Posted by: eshoreanjl | June 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Hate to rain on any parades – but we are talking politics here, folks. NO president makes any specific promises because they cannot guarantee that those promises will become reality. Money determines public policy – it changed the bankruptcy laws making them contrary to their original purpose. It got us into a war where we do not belong – but must remain for the long haul [despite dubya's declaration on board an air craft carrier years ago that we won the war]. It got us $4+ oil prices as the wealthy relationship between the Saudis and the Bush and Cheney. And it attempted to rewrite the US Constitution to ban same sex marriages in a way much like interracial marriages were once banned. Do not be too excited about Mr. Obama – he is a politician and he speaks in rhetorical and vague terms that appeal to our needs while allaying our fears. But there is no social contract that guarantees any politician will, or will not do, anything. The proof, as it is said, will be in the pudding. Let us see what Obama does with things – presuming he wins.

Posted by: A Voter | June 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

i just want to congratulate the priest from obamas former church. i personally think he said nothing wrong. hilary thought she had this one in the bag, she thought she is hilary,she is white,she is entitled and then she looked over her shoulder and saw obama. then she was like where did he come from,you should have seen that look on her face oh my god theres a black man stealing my show. and he sure did GO OBAMA

Posted by: oj | June 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Saint Lucia welcomes the DNC nominee the great Barack Obama. We all love you and support you.

Posted by: Joanne in Saint Lucia | June 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

I did not vote for HRC because she voted for a war I oppose! That’s it no other reason.
How many favors she must have promised to go along with that decision, a decision that has caused over 4,000 soldiers lives, trillions of dollars, wasn’t that reason enought to vote for Obama?
Are you not all concerned that two families have controlled the highest office for nearly 3 decades how American and/or Democratic is that.

Posted by: wmm | June 3, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

if obama was white he wouldnt have got any more votes than john edwards did and probably not as many ,the change that obama voters voted for was from white to black .

Posted by: jesse e thompson | June 3, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

I have been a staunch Hillary supporter all along, but I think Louise had the insight to this one….”she would have beaten Gore, Kerry, Edwards and the like. She was just tremendously unfortunate to come up against a once in a generation sensation like Barack Obama.” I think even before the primaries, he was the one to watch. But I still want Hillary for president!!!

Posted by: Linda | June 3, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

To all you Dems that thought hillary ran a sleeze campaign. you you rather have Gore or Kerry who was Just soft. and rolled over for the republicans.

Posted by: oregon | June 3, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Hillary is a sore loser!! She’s probably crying at home with a gallon of ice cream …

Posted by: Joe Navy | June 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

To all those who threaten to vote for McCain because Hilary didn’t get the nomination, I want you to think about two things: How many more American soldiers will die if McCain is elected and keeps us in Iraq? How soon will it be before women lose the right to choose what to do with their own bodies? Is that worth throwing your vote to McCain? Think very carefully once your anger has cooled and I believe that anyone with good conscience would choose to vote Democrat.

Posted by: Patrick | June 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

I can not believe that I am voting republican this election but I have no choice. Better a war overseas than to someone “god damn america” who will kiss up to our enemies until they are right on our shores.

Posted by: kisarita | June 3, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

and what is up with that ‘new kind of candidate who will not play politics?? he would not denounce nor quit his pastor nor church when he was still waiting to get the carolinas & mississipi, playing politics for the afro american community, as soon as he got those much needed afroa american votes he quits the church suddenly, after 20 years of hate filled sermons[maybe not daily but not absolutly rare] he sees the light and quits the church, how convinient he quits now that he needs the white vote, playing politics and hios fellow men, and women..A DIFFERENT KIND OF POLITICIAN?? HA!!

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

i respect hillary supporters, and i direct this question to them. on the subject of the war, how is it acceptable that she was misled by cooked intelligence that obama was able to dismiss based on reading publicly available sources?

Posted by: chris | June 3, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Meshell, It’s the response to Obama’s clinching the nomination, by some Clinton supporters that I would describe as pathetic. The self-pandering and delusional frame of mind of so many is unbelievable. I can understand strong support for your chosen candidate, but half of them seem to be in La La land right now. I would have been very disappointed if Obama had won. However, as much as I think Clinton is dishonest, has run a simply awful campaign, and is herself delusional, and as much as I shudder at the thought of today’s Bill Clinton back in the White House, I still wouldn’t go and vote for McCain over her. For someone to threaten to do that is so unreal it sounds like a deeply visceral response – the type of response you get from irrational racists.

Posted by: Carol | June 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Of course he was against the war – that’s what alot of people wanted to hear. He’s going to say anything to make himself look good.
Do you think if he was in Bush’s shoes at the time of 9/11 that anything would have been different? We were all ready to jump in the fight. I agree enough is enough – but in the beginning it’s what we all wanted.
I hope Obama is everything you Obama lovers thinks he is. God help us if he’s not.

Posted by: still-not-sure-about-Obama | June 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

This is a great insightful article with Matthew Dowd’s Opinion because he has viewed and been an assets to many campaigns.

Posted by: Beasley Brother | June 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

The main reason Obama “won” the convoluted Democratic primary (even Republicans were allowed to vote in some state primaries) was racism.When over 92% of blacks voted for Obama -now THAT is racism.
Personal info–I am a male,registered Republican.

Posted by: columbus | June 3, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Hillary lost because they wouldn’t let Michigan or Florida’s votes count. Hillary won in both states and had they counted she would have won.

Posted by: Lisa | June 3, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Heather113
I hope you understand that integrity, conviction and self-respect are personal characteristics a candidate running for the Oval Office must have. Haven’t we had enough characterless individuals occupying that office recently? Notice how I showed sufficent personal character to refrain from throwing slurs at you for expressing your opinion?

Posted by: paul221 | June 3, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Hillary lost because they wouldn’t let Michigan or Florida’s votes count. Hillary won in both states and had they counted she would have won.

Posted by: Lisa | June 3, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

All of these comments are mean and shameful! So what Hillary didn’t win and so what Obama did win the nomination… the ignorant people who are willing to waaa like babies and then act out by throwing a little tantrum and vote for McCain will all be crying the blues like we are now all because you don’t want a black man in the office. Seriously people you are like the Israelites in the bible,leaving Egypt after being freed but then when things weren’t going the way they wanted, they were begging to return to captivity! This is essentially what you are saying. Just shameful!

Posted by: Shameful | June 3, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Hillary was a formidable opponent. Don’t insult her because she lost the Democratic nomination for president. She achieved much more than any of you guys ever will. Congratulations on Barack Obama. I think he should pick Clinton as his Vice President before further division in the party.

Posted by: Jacky | June 3, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

All I can say kisarita, is when a friend or relative of yours dies in Iraq, will you feel the same way AFTER you cast your vote? And when have you ever heard Obama say “God Damn America”? If we want to judge a candidate on his associations, remember that Hilary Clinton worked as an intern in a law firm in the late sixties and helped defend radicals and draft dodgers. Should she be tarred with a stick saying she is unpatriotic because she ehlped many of them win court cases?

Posted by: Patrick | June 3, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

“Soros money,Huffington Post rhetoric, Daily Kos rants – makes me want to vomit… The Democratic Party has fissioned, and it will never “unite” again. The party literally went insane, and allowed its ‘cultural pluralist’ Marxist wing to dominate.
A lesser fissioning took place among Republicans, since legitimate conservatives were pushed aside.
Perhaps a viable conservative party, composed of disgruntled Dems and Reps, could be formed to confront the socialists.
Meanwhile a power elite manipulating monetary policies snickers behind the scenes.”
————————
AMEN MALCOLM!!!! I really believe this will happen no matter who wins this year. In 2010 or 2012, it IS possible that a third party will decimate the Dems and kill off the GOP, causing them to collapse into eachother. Thus, this new party will become a permanent conservative majority, and the remnants from the Dems and GOP will be called what they are, the SOCIALIST PARTY.
What will make this happen is the right kind of candidate. Someone similar to Ron Paul, only more energized and smart.

Posted by: Matt | June 3, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

so then was hillary pandering to our war lust, over her better judgement, regarding the costs, risks and wisdom of lauching the iraq enterprise?

Posted by: chris | June 3, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Hillary did well to pick up the Limbaugh democrats after he endorsed her, but they weren’t quite enough in the end. Hillary’s main failing was to not work harder for a Rush Limbaugh endorsement right from the beginning. Now, judging from the comments above, all those democrats are gonna go vote for McCain.

Posted by: seth | June 3, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

It’s no threat. We will vote for McCain because Obama is not trust worthy!!! You are talking about Iraqi war and women right? What a joke? Obama is sexist and has no respect for women! Didn’t hear what he said about Hillary in NH??? About Iraqi war? Obama said in 2004 that his position on Iraqi war was the same as Bush. McCain has record of standing on his own, but Obama has no much accomplishments, and has not been honest to the American people about his association with his Pastor, among many other things.

Posted by: Jake | June 3, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

so patrick hillary defended draft dodgers in another unpopular uneeded war..so u like that war but not this one??

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

So with all this garbage being said, if Hillary is to run for VP along with Obama what will all you Obama haters do then? I hope you all wouldn’t dare allow one of the biggest opportunities for change in our nation slip away because of stupidity!

Posted by: So What Now | June 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Obama’s my Man – you want reason? I’ll give you reasons.
First and foremost – Obama is blatantly anti- Manned Space Program. To me, the space program is absolutely irrefutably 100% our FUTURE!!!!! In stop after stop during this campaign season, when asked about his space policy he has basically said he does not thik the manned space flight progam does anything for us. He said the space shuttle program never inspired anybody – he said this to the freakin Houston Chronicle for Pete’s sake!!! For these statements alone, I absolutely despise him. TO take it one step further, he has the AUDACITY to open his speech the next day in Houston with the statement, “Houston, we liftoff”. He has also had the audacity to refer to President Kennedy setting the goal of sending men to the moon, and how inspirational that was, while at the same time, he plans to END our nations new Lunar Program. He clearly speaks out both sides of his mouth like a typical politician. For his views on manned space flight and his printed plan to decimae the Constellation Program budget to pay for his education pet project, I would never vote for him in a million years.
However, this is not the only reason. His entire campaign is based on a lie. His biggest claim to fame is that he spoke out against the Iraq war. HE WAS NOT (I repeat NOT) a member of the U.S. Congress when the Iraq war was voted on. He spoke out against it in a speech, in a very liberal neighborhood in his own state – there were no repercussions for him. It was brilliant politcal maneuvering for the future, but it is a lie. He did not VOTE against the war in Iraq because he could NOT vote against the war in Iraq. Once again, showing he is the consumate politician. Yet, his second biggest claim on his campaign was that he was different from all other politicians.
Third, his continual claims that he is somehow so much better and so much more pure then every politician who came before him. He is a typical politician, who actually played the game of politics better then many. However, he was the only candidate who continually claimed how different he was and how pure he was.
Fourth – his continual insistence that he will meet with leaders of terrorist nations WITHOUT PRECONDITION. Yeah, I dont care if he said he would prepare, I would expect a president to prepare for a meeting with any leader. However to meet with a ruler of some of these nations where attrocities are occurring is to legitimize them. I think this view point shows he is extremly naive.
These 4 items were enough for me to never vote for him and had formed my opinion of him during the debates in Decmeber and Janauary. However, late in the game, some new reasons to not vote for him came up – which were really moot points, but just added to my general dislike of the man.
Fifth – I don’t care what you say. It has long, long, long been said, that you can judge a man by the company he keeps. You cannot be a close friend of a man, a man you call your spiritual advisor, and say you did not knowhe held such view points. Just another Obama lie. Now late in the game, as he gears for the general election, he first denounces Wright and now he breaks his ties from the church completely. I’m sorry, that is a little too little, a little too late.
Sixth – peole keep saying Bush was inexperienced, so how can you hold that against Obama. Well, actually very easily. One of my biggest gripes with George Bush when he was running was that he was completely naive in regards to foreign policy. Obama is verry similar to him in this nature. Another major concern I had with Bush was that he was known to have drug problems as a younger man. Here’s Obama, printed in his own book, that he regulary used marijuana and used cocaine whenever he coould afford it. These are huge character flaws in my mind. They alo show an appalingly bad sense of judgement. Just because he admitted to them, it doesn’t make it right.
One more thing I hated about Bush was the eternal smirk on his face, and condescending smugness. Obama has the same annoying smirk and the same condescention.
Are these enough reasons? I could go into the fact that as a senator in Illinois he voted notpresent or some nonsense 130 times. Showing an aversion to making decisions. I could also point out that he abstained from voting on the issue of Iranm once he actually was a Senator in the U.S. congress and could actually put his money where his smirk is. Did he speak out against war in Iran, did he vote against taking action in Iran? No, he abstained.
So these are the major reasons that after voting for a Democrat in every election since I was able to vote, I will not vote for Barack Obama. If a 3rd party candidate comes along, I may consider them, but as it stands right now, I think McCain poses a much lesser threat to the stability of our nation.
Oh, one more point. I can;t believe the Democratic Party just didto Hillary what the republicans did to Gore in 2000. She won the popular election. She won al the states that matter come the general election – but he won the rinkydink caucus states that will all vote republican in the fall anyway. I am disgusted by the Democrats for doing to Hillary what I never forgave the Republicans for, when they did it to Gore. Et tu Brute?

Posted by: finnius | June 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

It is dishearting to read such ignorant and uninformed comments. Overall we
are forgetting one thing…We are one people, one nation, and once we embrace this notion and stop focusing on race in this country which is socially constructed…we will never be a great nation.

Posted by: perfectlyjo | June 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Though many of you have pointed out the obvious; might I just join the chorus? Iraq has seemed to slip to the back-burner of America’s media-driven conciousness; but that was what created the opening for Obama to overtake Mrs. Clinton. He ran a good campaign, his grass-roots organizations diserve much of the credit, small-amount donors like myself ($100) played a small role. But the huge, 800 billion dollar Gorilla in the room is lately, Kryptonite to the press. Funny that, huh?

Posted by: Steve in CO | June 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

“the reasons and causes aren’t easily reduced to a one paragraph explanation”
Actually, it can be very easily explained in one word – Iraq
It’s why Bush is hated by Americans.
It’s why the McClellan story can still enrage so many people.
It’s why Hillary lost.
Iraq. Iraq. Iraq.
Just because the media refuses to acknowledge the elephant in the room (mainly because of their culpability), doen’t mean it’s not the #1 issue pissing off Americans.

Posted by: Luther Brixton | June 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Be careful in thinking that the choice of the people is important to American politics. In two elections, George W. Bush LOST the popular vote. In those same two elections, Al Gore WON the popular vote. The NATION elected Gore twice. But Bush became the President – without actually winning the popular vote.

Posted by: A Voter | June 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Osama bin Laden could have won the Democratic nomination with the kind of propping up the media gave Obama.

Posted by: great_sphinx_42 | June 3, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

Osama bin Laden could have won the Democratic nomination with the kind of propping up the media gave Obama.

Posted by: great_sphinx_42 | June 3, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

Wrong Joe Navy–You are crying at your hutch with a gallon of ice cream with no one to support you. At least Hillary has something that you will never come close to. She should have ran as an Independent–It might have made more history considering our two other choices. Now Our other choice besides Obams will win. My Jewish boss said that if Obama wins; he will be easy to defeat–I believe that he is right.

Posted by: Hal | June 3, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

OBAMA SUPPORTERS DONT GET IT TWISTED…HE WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT AS BUSH WAS NOT…Just as u express your support for him…We Hillary Supporters should be allowed to do the same without being called anything other than an American…If U Can Dish It U Can Take It…Hillary should have won and would have won had some genius not put an african american candidate in there to confuse black voters….Everyone knows this was her time that she waited patiently for…Had she been given all the delegates for the states she won…instead if them giving some to Obama she would have been won…This thing was fixed since someone convinced him to run…Since Hillary is no longer in it…NEITHER AM I OR SEVERAL OTHER HILLARY SUPPORTERS…LET HIM WIN THIS WITHOUT US

Posted by: Hillary Supporter #1 | June 3, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Donna Brazile …..couting out votes, and manipulating michigan votes is also “cheatin”…u dumb biotch. Snake lawyer

Posted by: Why | June 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Hillary is sore loser period . . . Go Obama!!!

Posted by: Obama Rocks | June 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

What is this world coming to??? Exactly, AN END!!! Read the Bible and see it’s plain and simple. An African American will not last in the White House. Well let me rephrase that, Barack Obama will not last. He can’t even pledge to our flag nor put his hand on his heart rather the koran. Bill clinton was not a bad president. Just because he got oral sex doesn’t make him a bad person. I’msure he was not the first, just the first to get caught. Let Hillary be vice president so when Obama is impeached we can turn this country around with the Clintons in office again. Everyone needs to read the big book published by their maker and get a reality check. God Bless America and the Christian religion

Posted by: Shawn | June 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

What is this world coming to??? Exactly, AN END!!! Read the Bible and see it’s plain and simple. An African American will not last in the White House. Well let me rephrase that, Barack Obama will not last. He can’t even pledge to our flag nor put his hand on his heart rather the koran. Bill clinton was not a bad president. Just because he got oral sex doesn’t make him a bad person. I’msure he was not the first, just the first to get caught. Let Hillary be vice president so when Obama is impeached we can turn this country around with the Clintons in office again. Everyone needs to read the big book published by their maker and get a reality check. God Bless America and the Christian religion

Posted by: Shawn | June 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Its official Democrats have screwed up another Race. I knew Before I read these Blogs. A vote for Obama was a vote for McCain, After another 4 years of a Repubican in Office. who will the Obama supporters Blame?

Posted by: oregon | June 3, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

I was a staunch Clinton supporter, first Bill then Hill. Now it’s time to get behind the winner. Our candidate ran an inferior race. Dowd is right on the reasons she lost, but there are other reasons. Her vote for the war, her criminally bad campaign and staff, not reining Bill in when he went off message, over playing the gender card, allowing herself to be seen as dishonest, and being too negative. There are probably more that I can’t think of right now. Congrats to Obama. I will be voting for him in the Fall. We can’t have any more Republicans in the WH for the near future.

Posted by: Jenny | June 3, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Hillary was a formidable opponent. Don’t insult her because she lost the Democratic nomination for president. She achieved much more than any of you guys ever will. Congratulations on Barack Obama. I think he should pick Clinton as his Vice President before further division in the party.

Posted by: Jacky | June 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

I will NOT vote for McCain! But I definitely will not be voting for Barrack either. Here’s to hoping Hillary will run independant. I will be voting for her either way.

Posted by: heather113 | June 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Hey David, if you wanna send your son to iraq because your’re upset about Obama winning fair & square then I hope that little f@ggot son of yours get what he deserves in Iraq (blown to pieces)

Posted by: HILARY SUCKS | June 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

im surprised at how many people are so ignorant and brainwashed that they cant see or think beyond their noses!your grammar tells all anyway. wait Hillary lost because she was over confidence, she knew it was going to be over after super tuesday. she underestimated what obama could do, even set herself as superior. she lost because of the mistakes her and her campaign made and not because of obama. ohh and by the way the DNC did not do her any injustice. she knew the party rules before she signed up to run and agreed to all of it. but since she started losing, she wanted the rules changed. well superiority did not rule in her favor. so all you cry babies for HC you can start consoling yourself and regardless whether you stay home or vote for mcain, obama is the next american president.
it is only stupidity to vote for mcain because hc didnt win, how ignorant? do you want the same economy, gas 4 or even 5 dollars, most of you im sure cant afford as it is but your ignorance is going to make you vote republican. all is wrong with obama is that he is black and most of you cant stomach.
wake up and smell the coffee!

Posted by: sandy | June 4, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

only finding my own post did I realize what we say has our name AFTER the post. I was thinking first your name & time of post then your statement. I, as JustTheFacts, wrote the rather long post (sorry had alot to get out) and it appeared to me as though Lauren had said these things. So either they somehow swapped our thoughts or our signiture post names appear following our statements. Just want to set the record strait in case others were looking at these posts and attributing them to the wrong people.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | June 4, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Barack Hussein Obama for president? Are you’ll on crack? Check out Obama’s early upbringing and the activities of his radical father and remember the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree. Of course he was to talk to the Iranians and Castro. If we kiss our enemies butts the whole problem is solved. Maybe he can talk his compadre Bin Laden to come out of hiding and guarantee his immunity. Go ahead America vote for Obama!

Posted by: Andy | June 4, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

I don’t buy black shoes just because I’m black. I did not choose black shutters for my house just because I am black. I did not vote for Obama because we are both black….give me a break.
I started off as a Hillary supporter, but, SHE convinced me that Obama was the better candidate.
Oh, and I stopped eating white bread because it is an unhealthy choice, Not because it is not black.

Posted by: skip | June 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Hillary Clinton displayed her characteristic lack of humility this evening by not conceding her historic loss to Senator Barack Obama. It’s actually rather humorous that her ego and advisors have lead her to believe that Americans are waiting on edge to hear of her pending decision. Wrong! We’ve moved on. This is an Obama/McCain election. Hillary and crew must now “Step Off” and allow us to focus on the pressing issues facing this country. “No she didn’t (win the nomination)!” “No she won’t (be the next President of the United States)!”

Posted by: No She Didn't! No She Won't! | June 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

a vote for obama is a vote for obamam. a vote for john mccain is a vote for john mccain. the job of the voter is to express preference between the number of candidates. our democracy is weakened when we as voters feel like we must always play pundits. in december if you asked my if our country, or party for that matter, was ready to elect or nominate a black man, i would have thought not. on realclearpolitics obama wins the general election, more narrowly than clinton. but now he is the nominee, sour grapes are now votes for mccain.

Posted by: chris | June 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

everyone seems to conveniently forget it is not all about who is president. Most of the posters on this blog do not understand how our government works, evidently. Presidents try to set policy, house and senate enact..
Dems have controlled the house and senate for oh….4 years now. Hummmm, gas was what 1.50 4 years ago. So, under their control, gas sky rocketed. But Bush gets the blame. Quit hugging the tree and wake up.
It does not matter what dem wins the nomination. Either will have a superior cabinet of seasoned veterans who know their stuff. Do you really think junior senator would be detrimental…..come on, he would have very good folks around him, just like Cliton would….

Posted by: barn | June 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

I can’t believe the stupid comments I am reading on this blog. Is everyone who follows Matthew Dowd’s blog a complete idiot? Why don’t you people follow an intelligent blog like dailykos and learn something?

Posted by: DG | June 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

I just wanted to say that I enjoyed this article and think it is a fair analysis. More than half of these “emphatic” comments have nothing to do with the article tself.

Posted by: Hannah | June 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

I fear for the health of our nation. Non of these candidates are addressing the real issue in health care. With nearly 20% of GDP spent on healthcare, and the health of our citizens at stake, it is a bigger issue than the war.
Dr Jim
http://www.Jim.MD

Posted by: Dr Jim | June 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Didn’t Clinton’s vote for the war have anything to do with why she lost? I do think so.

Posted by: rp | June 4, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

To be honest, as a military member going on six years, I pray to god that McCain makes it.
None of you ignorant assholes really know whats going on over there unless you’ve been there.

Posted by: PO3 Glanzrock | June 4, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

McCain/Clinton for President sounds good to me

Posted by: oregon | June 4, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

“McCain is a moderate.”
Bush was a moderate too, back in 2000. Look how well that worked out.
But assume he’s really, truly, a moderate. McCain will have to get the right-wing wackos behind him in order to win and govern. He’s already said he would follow the right on issues like the Supreme Court and taxes, and we know he’ll keep his word.

Posted by: Alan | June 4, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

From the comments, I ascertain that the large majority of the Obama supporters are of the younger generation “Ipod” sort. (Maybe that is the reason for so many errors in their spelling.) When a person is in their 20′s or 30′s, they think they know the answers for everything. It’s not until you reach 50 or so that you actually begin to realize how very little you did know back then. The writer who said that it was no longer a race for “mom or dad” shows an incredible lack of maturity. I have always been a Democrat, but this election has clearly shown that the popular vote means nothing in the Democratic leaders minds. The Democratic party has left no alternative, but to vote Republican. I think having Hillary run as an Independent is an inspired thought. Then I wouldn’t have to vote Republican.

Posted by: wiser | June 4, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Please everybody come together. There is so much venom brewing. It is dangerous and the only people that loss is us…you and me.

Posted by: People4peace | June 4, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

I think that people have problems with Obama just as many people had problems with Hilary because she is a woman. NO ONE will ever admit that it is true. There would have to be a female candidate as charismatic as Obama to capture the countries attention but in general most would give them a big thumbs down. It was Hilary’s gender then her weird borderline lesbo attitude just freaked people out. Obama is not perfect but he is pretty damn good and lets just see if he lives up to who he says he is.. THEN criticize. many people don’t like him because he is black, and thats OK. I didn’t like Hilary because she is a woman and now she has lost I can breathe a sigh of relief. I would have voted for Madeline Albright though if she was running against Gore or Edwards.

Posted by: Gov't Monger | June 4, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

I agree with the points and let me add a few more which nailed Hillary:
- She acted as if she was entitled to the nomination. She changed course too late.
- She was unable to capture the aspirations of the voters till later in the campaign
- Her story of experience had no legs – being the first lady – and she got caught too many times.
- Her campaign was mismanaged ultimately by her – a sign of bad leadership
- She politicized the nomination process
and created her own rule book – this lost her credibility with the voters
- She was unable to bridge the gap between change and experience and demonstrated that she actually lacked experience in strong leadership
Finally – she should have distanced herself from Bill early in the process since he is/was a huge liability .
Most of all – she never admitted her mistakes and moved on – there always was a spin to her commentary – be it Nafta, Iraq or Bosnia.

Posted by: sam | June 4, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Most of the people posting here have clearly made up their minds on which candidate they favor (at least for the moment!) FYI-It’s not likely you’ll sway any of the vocal minority that found this place and took the time to compose their thoughts into words.
Still, I think it is helpful to consider that perhaps those who have not yet made up their minds are taking into consideration the character qualities of those advocating for a candidate. It is astonishing how true the old adage rings that you can learn a lot about a person by the company they keep!
Can we show at least some civility to fellow citizens, not to mention human bein’s?

Posted by: Soup | June 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

“God Bless America and the Christian religion and getting BLOW JOBS in the White House???” . . . Give me a break eeeuuu?!?
Barrack won fair and square. Hillary knew as every other Presidential nominee knows that the popular vote does not win the election. Get over it and unite the Democratic party and keep those Damn republicans out of the White House!!!

Posted by: Obama Rocks Indiana | June 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Hey guys, woman already run the household in this country, why would you want them to run the country? It’s not like the divorce rate is going down..right?

Posted by: Chris | June 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

I am sorry that all of you clinton fans are disappointed,get-over it. Her racist tones it’s all about her no matter what, we will change the rules when we want,please. You all forget that she agreed to the rules before this thing started and when she thought that she would cake walk through now she wants us to feel sorry for her and if she isn’t the one then we will vote foe Mccain, well take your racist asses on over to him and I hope he sticks it to you real good

Posted by: kert62 | June 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Amber: Be lucky that your husband came home when others are dying. And as far as jobs companies have been closing because of loss of sales. People are buying smaller cars now so the dealers are stuck with the bigger ones that they can’t sell. And the ones that are losing their homes have that coming to them. You don’t buy a condo or home with 10% down, you have to have at least 30 – 35% down. Its not the mortgage company’s fault its the buyer’s fault for biting off more than they can chew. Wake up. Blame the oil company’s for the high price of gas. They are in charge not the president. And workers that are close to the “L” or bus should not drive to work and they don’t have to buy all that gas. Yet they still complain. I live in Chicago not far from Evanston and why people drive from there when they can take the “L” downtown is their own fault. You can’t blame the president for the people’s ignorance. People can be the cause of their own disaster’s.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 4, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Individuals that planned to carry CLINTON to the White House will now elect McCain. We are here, we are determined to keep an unexperienced, liberal out of the White House. We are large in number and All Clinton supporters. It’s not over yet OBAMA supporters…we still have the power to make sure HE doesn’t make it into the White House. GO MCCAIN!

Posted by: Jan | June 4, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Thank you finnius … I thank you again … so well said, everyone should read what you have written.

Posted by: kris | June 4, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Joe, I never said I liked the Viet Nam war. I grew up as a child watching that war on the TV news and learned to abhor war. My point is that there are many who would unfairly portray Hilary as being unpatriotic for defending those who avoided the draft and had radical leanings, the same way Obama is being unfairly painted. And, for those who might wonder, I am a Libertarian who decided to vote Democrat to make sure the Republicans are ousted from the White House. I supported neither Obama or Clinton until the nomination was decided tonight. Oh, I am also white, middle-aged, middle-income, and do not have a college degree. You know, Hilary’s demographic. LOL Had Hilary gotten the nomination, I would have voted for her.
I think the focus of this election should be defeating Republicans at every level, from local up to President, and I find the whole idea of voting for McCain atrocious if a person really wants this country to go in a different direction from another 4 years of American soldiers dying and Roe V Wade being overturned, both things that McCain stands for.
So, don’t try to put words in my mouth and look inside yourself and see if you can honestly support McCain and his policies. The man wouldn’t even vote for the new G.I. Bill changes because he is afraid soldiers will leave the Army. I am a peace-time veteran, and I know if I was in Iraq, I would definitely take the opportunity to exit a war that can not be won.

Posted by: Patrick | June 4, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

I did not vote in this primary because it did not matter if Clinton or Obama won. I want change and I know that McCain will not provide the change I am looking for. I would gladly vote for Obama or Clinton in the presidential race. It saddens me to know that some Americans are so small minded as to vote for McCain just because Clinton did not get the nomination. So…you would chop off your leg to spite your toenail??? I have always thought highly of Clinton but if she runs as an independent and splits her party then her political career is over. Who can trust someone who show charator traits that are vendictive and self serving at a time when they need to be part of a team. Clinton has so many awesome talents to bring to the party. As a woman in a professional world I know how important it is to not be seen as a whining female. Come on ladies you know what I am talking about. If Clinton is to break ground for women please can she do it with style not like she is in some high school girl in a cat fight. I like Obama and I like Clinton either would be fine in the White house.
I hope the voters and Clinton do not split the party because of race or bitterness. Grow up we win some we lose some but we live to fight another day.

Posted by: Pat | June 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Give me a break!! There is more facing this country than Iraq. Obviously, the Obama zombies don’t pay attention to the news. Obama isn’t any different than every other politician. His campaign was funded by the special interests. This nomination was “bought”. The 2000 election was stolen from Gore by the Supreme “Idiots” (aka Court) and this one was robbed from Hillary. I hope McCain wipes the floor with him.
Then Hillary can go back to the “Stuper-delegates” and tell them I told you so.

Posted by: Michelle | June 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

God is in control, and His will, will be done. You can vote for your choice, but we will all have to except who God puts in the white house as our president.

Posted by: Pat Hopwood | June 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

I am happy to see that we will have a President in 2009 that will represent all of America. Not just because he is bi-racial, but because he has truly set about to offer balance to the American existence. He is the one person that offers a chance for persons of every socio-economic background to have an equal shot at the American dream and I really appreciate that. As to those of you who are still complaining about them not seating all of the Florida and Michigan delegates, How can it possibly be fair to count votes in states that either did not place Barack Obama on the ticket; Or held elections without giving each candidate the opportunity to campaign. Now me personally, I would like to know whether or not Hillary Clinton suporters would support an official do over. I think having the citizens of these to states to re cast their votes using the rules that the party had put in place would have been the best way to kill all the naysayers. That way Clinton supporters would know once and for all that the MAJORITY vote of the people, is truly with OBAMA.
WAY TO GO Pres. OBAMA.

Posted by: TimeForChange | June 4, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

I fear for this country. Imagine the chaos once Obama is sworn into office. Racial uproar across the nation. Not only will racist extremists make attempts on his life, but just imagine should they actually succeed. Our first black President, assassinated. As if the black culture in America is not at a very volatile and ignorant state as it stands now, think ahead to the arrogance and lack of respect for authority and other races that will surely seep into so many more aspects of our ‘co-racial’ lives. With or without an attempt or the taking of his life.
If you want to see this slick, slimy, tricky man elected into office, I suggest that you take a good hard look down the road that he has traveled on to get to this point, and then ahead down the road that we will travel on with him as a nation. He speaks of ‘change’, and ‘standing by’ what is important to him. His values – IF these values were of any significant importance to him what so ever, then he would not repeatedly make choices in his life which completely defied them. Then later decide that he WOULD NOT STAND BY what he so adamantly swore to stand by initially. THIS MAN STANDS FOR NOTHING AND HAS NO VALUES. He is so vague and so cowardly it is utterly disgusting! The questions that we need to be asking this candidate, and getting REAL answers to; the character he has SHOWN through his life, and not TOLD us that he holds, are what actually matters, not the HOPES that we are hammering into his image.
Perhaps we haven’t looked at all of the candidates thoroughly enough, perhaps there just isn’t a truly qualified man or woman. It doesn’t mean that we should all be swept up and corralled by sweet smells and enticingly vague ideas and words. Before any of us casts a vote, we should really look at what all of this means, and what that vote itself means. Know who you are voting for, and what they stand for, and against. Don’t be anyone’s fool.

Posted by: Logan | June 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Hello everyone, I’ve been volunteering in the kindergarten class in my children’s school because they need help not because my child is in the class. My son is 13 and one is 16.
The rules are: no name calling, respect
each other even if you feel differently, encourage each other, if some needs help then help them, no threatening or bullying, share; to name just a few. Please, let’s try to act like children. God Bless America, Laura

Posted by: laura | June 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Don’t mention the war!
We’re cursed with idiot pundits.

Posted by: mike | June 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

TO YOMO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THEY ARE CLEAR-CUT AND THE TRUTH. THE RACE IS NOT WON BY THE SWIFT…BUT BY HE THAT ENDURETH TO THE END.

Posted by: Hayden | June 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

What we need to do as americans is remember, our vote decides whether or not more of our young people die in a senseless and pointless war. Those of us who will vote mcsame because hillary lost, do you have children who serve, or are of the age to serve? Protecting our rights and freedoms from 4 more years of bush politics seems like a good reason to me to vote DEMOCRAT, despite the feeling that were aroused during the extended nominating process. I, for one, would have voted for hill at the outset, because iI believed in her message. and I am a black male, who would have voted for clinton no matter what. but we need to see beyond the petty issues, and concentrate on getting our country back on track! We need a president who will restore our standing in the international community, and disengage us from this useless war that steals the lives of our young people, our greatest resource! If u know someone, like I do, who came back from Iraq mentally damaged, u would see how we need to end this war! Let’s take the fight to the terrorists who are in Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan! let’s change the politics that bring riches to private corps, and restore our country to its former standing!

Posted by: finrod the faithful | June 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

My mind has raced been racing all day of these statements posted here. Maybe they are nonsequtor,but here I go!
BTW…Do any of you fellow Democrats recall that it was Black Ministers that had Bill’s back when he said,” I never slept with that woman…”? One of them was the notorious Rev. Wright!
Bottom line is Hillary has a very severe case of “Boomeritis”. Most of us Boomers are sick and tired of being sick and tired…yet Hillary continues. She needed a wake up call and she got one. A non Boomer who reminder so many of us old enough to have heard Bobby Kennedy. Hope. We can. We needed that because the play field of economic stress has leveled. There is no more color line in that regard.
What nails the coffin shut for me was the the statement “…but it took a President…” Maybe she forgot to read what Fredick Douglas had to say about BLACK PEOPLE getting the right to vote before white women. Feminism in the 21st aint what it used to be…but she doesn’t know that. And MLK died fighting for he believed in.
And let’s not even go there about the 1968 Kennedy assination statement.
Clearly, she clearly represents the “uppity”, well educated white woman who thinks like the Democrats of old…who wants others to think they can’t make it without her…and can’t seem to break away from that image no matter how she tries. Couldn’t find the words because it isn’t a reality that she can face.
And Bill is not a well man.
Obama gives us promise, hope and a new day!

Posted by: Pilates Hottie Boomer | June 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

What we need to do as americans is remember, our vote decides whether or not more of our young people die in a senseless and pointless war. Those of us who will vote mcsame because hillary lost, do you have children who serve, or are of the age to serve? Protecting our rights and freedoms from 4 more years of bush politics seems like a good reason to me to vote DEMOCRAT, despite the feeling that were aroused during the extended nominating process. I, for one, would have voted for hill at the outset, because iI believed in her message. and I am a black male, who would have voted for clinton no matter what. but we need to see beyond the petty issues, and concentrate on getting our country back on track! We need a president who will restore our standing in the international community, and disengage us from this useless war that steals the lives of our young people, our greatest resource! If u know someone, like I do, who came back from Iraq mentally damaged, u would see how we need to end this war! Let’s take the fight to the terrorists who are in Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan! let’s change the politics that bring riches to private corps, and restore our country to its former standing!

Posted by: finrod the faithful | June 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

A great leader once said, “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”. This is proven in many of
the above comments.

Posted by: perfectlyjo | June 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

What are Obamas great ideas. what are some of his accomplishments. or is he just trendy. lets be honest. The Dems. were over run by a bunch of fools.now they want us to join them. hillary supporters dont follow trendy lifestyles. we are older and have paid our dues. We are mostly Blue collar. and we dont think this is an american idol T.V. Show

Posted by: oregon | June 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

To Susan 34
Yes it may be about the pocketbook but watch out if Obama was to happen to win the general. There won’t be anything (money) in the pocketbook. Of coarse it would be about the same with Clinton.

Posted by: Michael | June 4, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Same old politics,trying to play on the emotions of the American people.those of you who want to send money to McCain are already in the camp of Bush.those of you that are thinking about it ,take a drive for thirty minutes in one direction and get off the highway and look around you.we dont need to fight with each other but for each other.

Posted by: Bo H | June 4, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

kert62: Because voters don’t want to vote for Obama if Hillary isn’t the nominee I agree with them to vote for McCain. I am not voting for Obama either, I am writing Hillary in as an independent. Her voters don’t like Obama so why should they vote for him. I don’t like him either. Its not a matter of race because if that’s the case why didn’t the 96% black voters vote for Hillary. Its not racial to vote for your own race. It doesn’t mean you can’t be friends with black people. Obama is not black, not white, he is Mulatto a name that the black people don’t like but that’s what he is regardless of the fact. The media wouldn’t dare call him that but they know that’s what he is. I hope McCain wins if Hillary doesn’t run as an independent. I am a fan of the Clinton’s when Bill Clinton was president and Obama is no Bill Clinton. In fact our emenies are smarter than Obama. They must be dancing in the streets right now planning their attack because they know that Obama isn’t experienced enough to know what to do in the white house.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 4, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

OBAMA SUPPORTERS DONT GET IT TWISTED…HE WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT AS BUSH WAS NOT…Just as u express your support for him…We Hillary Supporters should be allowed to do the same without being called anything other than an American…If U Can Dish It U Can Take It…Hillary should have won and would have won had some genius not put an african american candidate in there to confuse black voters….Everyone knows this was her time that she waited patiently for…Had she been given all the delegates for the states she won…instead if them giving some to Obama she would have been won…This thing was fixed since someone convinced him to run…Since Hillary is no longer in it…NEITHER AM I OR SEVERAL OTHER HILLARY SUPPORTERS…LET HIM WIN THIS WITHOUT US

Posted by: Hillary Supporter #1 | June 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

I’m an Obama supporter with a great deal of respect for Hillary and Bill Clinton. I have been more involved in this race than ever before and I am proud to be. It makes me sad and hurt to be called a kool aid drinker and a fool and a sexist and deluded for my support of Obama. I don’t feel that I am any of those things(shame on all clinton supporters who do this and shame on all Obama supports that deride Clinton supporters). I am an african american and a veteran and very proud of my country. I don’t understand the hatred for Senator Obama, he has worked hard for and cares for this country and truly wants to make this a better and more united nation, as does Hillary Clinton and John McCain. He did not steal this nomination, he won it by following the rules and running a smart and well managed campaign. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 306K counting MI but ignoring all the caucus states if you include all factors including MI and the estimate of caucus states Obama would have 41k more popular votes. Regardless by the rules Obama won more pledge delegates from all 50 states and more of the uncomitted delegates so he wins the nomination fairly. Before anyone votes for McCain just please look at his policies and make the choice after that.

Posted by: Ali | June 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

TimeForChange:
Your an idiot … Mr BO,Edwards and another Dem did not want there names on the MI ballots by choice and FL voted for Hillary … our votes were taken from us. I WILL WRITE MRS. CLINTONS NAME ON MY FL BALLOT. We the people!!!!!!!

Posted by: kris | June 4, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

These campaigns have given us several examples of how readily people will accept the most implausible conspiracy theories that will support their preconceived notions.
Some people believe that Senator Obama is really an agent of radical Islam. Now, some believe that the Democratic Party leadership had been conspiring against Senator Clinton since before the campaign began and preordained Senator Obama. That, despite the fact that Senator Clinton had twice as many pledged super delegates than Senator Obama 6 months ago.
I want to conduct an experiment. I have already seen some comparisons between Senator Clinton and the fictional Vice-President named Caroline Reynolds on the TV drama Prison Break. I want to propose that Hollywood anticipated Senator Clinton’s bid for the vice-presidency. They deliberately designed this devious character to create suspicions about Senator Clinton’s motives and to undermine her chances.
Even though I am publicly stating that I just made that up and it has no basis in fact … “as far as I know,” to quote a candidate, I suspect that I have just created a conspiracy theory that will gain many adherents.

Posted by: jrenkx | June 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Congratulations DNC, your chance of winning in November is GONE at the moment with Hillary Clinton declared as a loser…Thanks for the memory.

Posted by: Dinomojo | June 4, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

I love the people who claim that the media has been propping Obama up. Yeah, they drove the Reverend Wright “controversy” into the ground because they loved him. The media is actually a big part of why Hillary was able to stay in the race so long; any other candidate who lost twelve states in a row and was still 100+ delegates behind after Ohio and Texas would have been forced out months ago. They had practically ordained her the winner before Iowa had even voted (Remember when the news was full of a possible Clinton/Giuliani face off?) As much as you people hate to admit it, she ran the weaker campaign and fell so far behind that it was impossible to catch up. It wasn’t enough to win states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana; she had to win them by *huge* margins that just had no realistic chance of materializing. I admit that she started to show some strength near the end, but by then it was too late.
I wouldn’t worry about the Hillarybots here who are throwing their tantrums and threatening to vote for McCain. Look outside of the blogs like this and you’ll see that the vast majority of Hillary voters are rational people who are ready to unify the party and focus on beating McCain. And thank God for that.
Obama ’08
Yes, we can.
Yes, we did.
Yes, we will.

Posted by: Oregon Voter | June 4, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

It baffles me how people can have voted for someone who has a mere 3.5 yrs of experience as a senator. The trump card, the big “CHANGE” Obama harps on about at every given opportunity is hollow. What these BIG changes he will bring, this man who is so clearly unpatriotic and attended a church for twenty odd years ministered by a man who denounced the United States. Is that not treason? What does that then say for those who vited for him.
Shame on you I say. You all seem to think you have won and that your oh so cool as a cucumber Obama will be in the White House but you forget about all the patriots out there so unlike yourselves. Obama will NEVER defeat McCain. Clinton might well have and its a shame she didnt get the opportunity. But let me tell you, all the McCain supporters out there are celebrating tonight as well. More fool. How many people voted for Clinton compared to Obama… something to think about. Now if she had won tonight that is something the McCain camp would have feared.

Posted by: HEY | June 4, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Okay, does no one proofread these things?
It’s voters’ fears and voters’ hopes not “voters fears” and “voters hopes.” Sheesh! As far as the article goes, I do think that the media had a lot to do with with shaping each candidate’s momentum. That said, I like both of them, and I’m holding out hope for an Obama-Clinton ticket.

Posted by: grammatician | June 4, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Some nice comments. To be critically evaluated with time. Time will tell. What guides these individual comments?

Posted by: Eze V. Umunnakwe | June 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

I am a Hillary supporter now voting for McCain.
All 3 candidates come to the table with baggage. So all of the “he said, she said” is hard to tally. I do know is he may have voted against the war in Irag, but he also attended a madrazah (*sp) school while being raised in another country, and his father’s family is Muslim. Therefore, it makes since to me he would not vote for a war in Muslim Iraq based on his religious principles primarily. And, yes, I know for the last 20 years he was not attending Muslim services, but his next spiritual guide doesn’t sound much better than a madrazah leader…..
That being said, Europe is beseiged with issues regarding Muslim rights (won’t go into detail), we are starting to see that here. I don’t want to purposely invite more of those problems here.
While I am a Hillary supporter, I have always admired McCain in his own right. And I won’t have a problem voting McCain. I choose “patriotic” experience over “raised in another country” inexperience.
This is not “hate” or “sore loser” feelings. This is just a calm, logical,rational,reasonable, & humble acceptance. Hello Mr. President McCain!

Posted by: Hillary Supporter gone Rep | June 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

I can’t believe the hate that i am hearing here, is this america? Are we so divided by petty differences that we can’t even try to come together for something? Hate is such that people say and act any kinda of way that some of you are acting only display your shoe sizes and not any form of IQ, my God what is wrong with you people? either way it goes, anything would be better than another 4 years of bush, and if you can’t see that, then i relly feel sorry for you and your mentality!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

I can’t believe the hate that i am hearing here, is this america? Are we so divided by petty differences that we can’t even try to come together for something? Hate is such that people say and act any kinda of way that some of you are acting only display your shoe sizes and not any form of IQ, my God what is wrong with you people? either way it goes, anything would be better than another 4 years of bush, and if you can’t see that, then i relly feel sorry for you and your mentality!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Hillary lost because the DNC and the media CHOSE our next President…
If you think we have problems now, think about someone running our country with absolutely NO experience in politics. Just what we need. Another glowing example of our complacency and stupidity.
As for recasting votes, the states of FL and MI have already decided that it would be too costly to do so and they are not equipped to bear the expense.
Do Americans REALLY know what has happened…? Hold on. You’ll find out

Posted by: GOOD LUCK AMERICA | June 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

I find it difficult to credit that many – if any – of those who claim to have backed Hillary are throwing their support to McCain. I’d wager that virtually all of the “Dems for McCain” posting here are GOP trolls – like Jan, who who is “determined to keep an unexperienced, (sic) liberal out of the White House.” Yeah, that rings so true coming from the mouth of a putative Clinton supporter. Better trolls, please…

Posted by: jjcomet | June 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Logan epitomizes the need for someone like OBAMA as president. I believe that although overt racism is still pervasive, the sheer number of people that have voted in this election to CHANGE that ideology has demonstrated that we can get past that. I am glad to know that we will be led by a man that lives by scriptural teaches which teach that you abhor the sin, but love the sinner.
As we continue to exchange ideas to foster understanding, let us follow the example that has been forged to rise above the petty prejudices of those that fear the unknown. We as a country are destined to regain our position as the Hallmark of Academic, Social, Moral, Economic, and Philanthropic Majesty. Let us not let the deep seeded racial pestilences of our past stop us from fulfilling our destiny.

Posted by: TimeForChange | June 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

This race can be parsed until the cows come home, but she ran neck and neck with him in the popular vote. He got the delegates, but she matched and possibly beat him with popular votes.
I think that her campaign didn’t understand the caucases, and I hope that process is clarified before the next election. One group shouting down and another, or holding caucases when some voters can’t attend are not democratic.
Not looking past Super Tuesday was a big mistake of the Clinton campaign. Even if she had taken them, you always have to try to anticipate the unexpected and the campaign was caught short and lost valuable time scrambling to catch up, but catch up she did in the popular vote.
Unfortunately for the Clinton campaign, the Obama campaign understood grassroots fundraising earlier and they seemed to organize at the community level with locals who understood the needs and ways of the area better than the Clinton campaign who brought in people to run things.
All in all, she split the votes with him. Why she should slink off without being able to demand that the issues her voters wanted be considered as the national campaign moves forward? He has the nomination. Give her a couple of days to decide how to move forward and to work out details.
His surrogates in the media and party leadership can cry ‘unfair’ but she lost in a close delegate race. If we didn’t have proportional splits of delegates we would be celebrating a different candidate tonight.

Posted by: annetta | June 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Okay, does no one proofread these things?
It’s voters’ fears and voters’ hopes not “voters fears” and “voters hopes.” Sheesh! As far as the article goes, I do think that the media had a lot to do with shaping each candidate’s momentum. That said, I like both of them, and I’m holding out hope for an Obama-Clinton ticket.

Posted by: grammatician | June 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

I can’t believe the hate that i am hearing here, is this america? Are we so divided by petty differences that we can’t even try to come together for something? Hate is such that people say and act any kinda of way that some of you are acting only display your shoe sizes and not any form of IQ, my God what is wrong with you people? either way it goes, anything would be better than another 4 years of bush, and if you can’t see that, then i relly feel sorry for you and your mentality!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

To the person who said the Democrats gained control of Congress 4 years ago, and gas was 1.50 4 years ago. Therby asserting that Democrats caused the rise in gas prices. First – teh Democrats gained control of Congress in the 2006 election, therefore in January 2007. Second of all, the lowest gas has been in the last 4 years was 1.74 – but mostly has fluctuated between 2 and 3 dollars.
One of several reasons gas prices are soaring is because of OPEC. Hugo Chavez, the President of Venezuela (the only American country that is part of OPEC) has done a great deal to help that. He has reduced the production of oil by billions of barrels. He has also been very vocal in his support of Barack Obama. So if Obama became President, and Hugo Chavez already in love with him, you can already see we are in for more gas price troubles.

Posted by: finnius | June 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Hey did anyone notice that this guy has been Republican activist just trying to start a brawl with us. Please don’t give in to this and Unify the Democratic Party.
Matthew Dowd has been a campaign strategist in races throughout the country. In 30 years, Dowd has worked for Democrats such as the late Sen. Lloyd Bentsen and Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock, and Republicans including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and President George W. Bush, for whom he was chief strategist in 2004.

Posted by: Think!!! | June 4, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

someone suggesting that obama is from another country is beyond laughing. it is pathetic. these are the people who vote for the candidate because someone told them to do so. they are so ignorant, bigot and dont think outside the box, these ignorant folks hurt the country more than help. why dont you stay home if you are that ignorant. there is something called internet, you can get all the facts about the candidate. Barack is an american you dummy!

Posted by: sandy | June 4, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

I made a whimsical comment about the catholic(white)priest.but the reality is/was he was really speaking the mindset of hrc.it is about her,just like the mindset of this administration is about them black and white.this transcends whether you are rascist or not.we the american people were mislead as a group.we need change.mccain can not bring this about…hes 71 years old.he is older than reagan was when he took office.the clintons had 8 years to make changes,they did not.they did do some things that made america and our security weaker.this current admin didnt do much either.all i know is that 2 years ago, a young white boy/man at 19 years of age died in a battle(war) that we could have prevented 16 years ago during the first gulf war.I’m a 44 year old black man and i saw his mother pack his belongings take a self portrait that he painted in high school in hinesville ga down.all she recieved for her only child dying in iraq was a flag and a tree planted on warriors walk on ft. stewart..man this is so much bigger than black and white or mccain and clinton.I’ve got 5 boys and I want them to have a life.a life better than the friends white and black who sacrificed their lives so that barbara and jenna and chelsea could prance and galavant around.I served.I was a republican and I’m black and the status quo is unacceptable.God Bless America and Barack Obama.

Posted by: djohn | June 4, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Who is Obama, maybe we should ask Rev. Wright, Bill Ayer’s or Father Pleger???
These are his colleages…they should know him real good after 20 years.
America certainly doesn’t!!!

Posted by: Rose Schmid | June 4, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Hillary lost because the country is tired of bushes, clintons, more bushes….we have spent an entire generation under the mandate of two families, 28 years is enough. that is why Obama will not pick her as VP. I guarantee two things…Bill Richardson will be Obama’s running mate (he has real experience in international affairs AND the Hispanic vote), McCain will be a one term president because that was always his plan.

Posted by: elated | June 4, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Don’t waste ur votes … write Hillarys name on ur ballot … the will of the people … make it count.

Posted by: kris | June 4, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

A quote from KISARITA-
“I can not believe that I am voting republican this election but I have no choice. Better a war overseas than to someone “god damn america” who will kiss up to our enemies until they are right on our shores”
- Are you kidding me? Do you know if your pastor/priest… no, your friends….no, your siblings… are gay? …on drugs? Can you dictate to any ADULT… who has there own mind, own train of thought, own moral values, …own depiction of freedom of speech? That was his pastor. NOT HIM! Please just STOP! My pastor may say something every other Sunday that raises my brow are causes me to look at him disoriented. I go to church to fellowship and receive a word from God, I then process this information to include or exclude it into my belief system based on my own personal relationship with God and my own moral values. These people have used this man to initiate their own platform, IGNORE THEM! Please stop judging this man on other peoples blunders. If we could do that, then we must assume Hilary is a push over for a powerful man because she didn’t leave Bill, and McCain is a “DubYa” worshipper!
LOL!!!
Why not talk to the people overseas, its better than just going RAMBO and killing innocents who desire the help. Hooray, we have a candidate who doesn’t have a secret agenda with this war, who wants to see our men and women at home with there families (not being blown to pieces are killing themselves). We SHOULD backup, regroup, and exclusively formulate tactics to ‘silence’ those specific targets that are of opposition. We are in a war we won’t win. Check your biblical history, this is a HOLY WAR, we are not suppose to be in the middle of this. BUT, since we are, we lose our sons, daughters, husbands, fathers! We are suffering high gas cost, bankruptcy, recession!
‘…right up on our shore…’ – They’re here!!!!!!
9/11 !!! DING! DING! DING!
But, America is the Land of the Free, race does not depict who’s a crazy terrorist or killer, so please don’t say we shouldn’t have let “them” in. Because, Timothy McVey(white)was born and raised here, the DC sniper(black)… born/raised, Jeffrey Dalmer(weirdo)….
WE NEED CHANGE! Let someone else have a chance to make a difference!

Posted by: YoMo | June 4, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Truthfully, I feel Hillary lost also in a big part because of who she really is and that her true colors came through fully. She was dishonest, a hypocrit and untrustworthy and many americans didn’t like her. She never stood on her own two feet – always the coattails.
She lost in part because of who she really is and her judgement was very poor and still is today. I feel sorry for her but I’m glad she didn’t succeed. America just doesn’t need to deal with all of her and bill’s disruptions, noise and antics. The president’s job is just too important to have a narcisstic person in charge. Too many people really don’t like either one of the clintons anymore. I know I and others have lost respect for them during this primarya and it’s well deserved.
Obama taking down the clintons (the mafia as I call them) is no small achievement. Not all democrates at all levels believe the clintons are good for america.

Posted by: jules0123 | June 4, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Good article! Hillary made several mistakes in her run and thats that. Obama choose to stay on the high road at all times which spoke volume. Now, his mom is white from kansas his dad black from kenya, his childhood was struggling but now he has risen out of nowhere to the table of almost every american and outsider-this is the american dream! he is like a freak of nature, Kennedy returns but he is coloured (and still nothing changes)-How could it happen? but it did An unlikely route to glory.
Now anger is inevitable to the racist, to the gender oriented and war loving persons, but oh that we could see what this proves that its all possible every bit of it. All need to read AMBER 8:08.Ron be careful. All those running to mccain u need to think and dont make decisions when you are angrey.

Posted by: constantine | June 4, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

Seriously,
I am entirely frustraited with these Hillary supporters, honestly I was one myself until she actually ran for the nomination and the real “candidate” came out. She turned out to be scam artist in my point of view, and as a woman she embarrassed us all. Mainly with her whinning, first Michigan and Florida didnt matter, but when she started to lose, the votes “NEEDED” to be counted, because so many people were being deprived, let me ask you this, didnt they know that when they voted? Of course, so now because of their primaries, Hillary lost, no, Hillary got in the ring fought a good fight, but got knocked out in the 12th round, to bad.

Posted by: JESSICA | June 4, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

GET READY DEMS FOR ANOTHER 8 YEARS. REPUBLICANS ARE RIGHT WE ARE STUPID

Posted by: oregon | June 4, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

Joan,
if you insinuating what i think you are i news for you. This is not the “yes master” days of the 60′s and i know you are not old enough to remember the civil war between the north and south. So get your glasses and read me clearly. We are a new generation and we will not stand stil with our heads down and witness another BFK, RFK or Martin Luther King. If he dont duck and he gets hit. YOURS A** BETTER DUCK. THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH WONT COMPARE TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN OUR GREAT NATION OF RACIST.

Posted by: diary of a mad black woman | June 4, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

There is no way Mrs. Clinton will ever join the “Church of the poisoned mind”. Racist liers. The media brought Mrs. Clinton down, the media is also reponsible for selling the Iraq war, the media people who contributed to the war campaing have the American soldiers and the Iraq people blood in their hands. How can you people live with yourselves. Again. “Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities” Voltaire.

Posted by: alice newton | June 4, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Geez, I don’t care whether You call me racist or not, I probably am in some sort of way just as Obama and all of his buddies are. I haven’t met a single black person a yet who hasn’t struck up a conversation about White people and jeered fun about us. And being Black or White wasn’t even on my mind, but it was theirs. So, what is my feeling now. I wouldn’t want a Black person in our Nation’s top seat for all of the gold in california ! The very church he belonged to for 20 yrs poked fun at us, as well as racial slurs. He’s a bigot and male chauvinistic black man who doesn’t honor his creed or color either way. You want this man as our Top Dog? The very tactics he used were appauling. He targeted the young people of this country who I don’t feel are knowledgeable to wipe themselves sometimes, but to actually vote ! They weren’t interested enough to vote once they became 18, so why is it all of a sudden they are now? Well Obama campaign called these youngsters daily ringing their phones off of the hook and telling them to register and vote for Obama. Who knows how he bribed the babies? Probably with a gift certificate to here or there? At any rate, he didn’t acquire his votes out of pure devoted voters who were actually committed for seeing him in office. I’m guessing they could care a less. Lucky go happy youths who feel their lives are invicible and so is everything else going on around them. So Obama didn’t gain his votes by popularity, he did in a scandalous way. No need to reply to my statement. It won’t change my mind about how I feel regarding Obama, nor my dislike for him and his racist wife and buddies, or his racist church and culture that he exsists in! My vote goes to Hillary..if she can’t have it..well, I’ll cast it off to McCain ! Too Bad, So Sad..Obama..You lose in the end!

Posted by: Hillary Fan | June 4, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

I am glad Obama won he deserved every bit of it. The problem with Hilary was her husband Bill people wanted to see her being able to stand on her own two feet which she couldn’t do. Another problem some people did not trust Hilary after what she went through with her husband and being that he was always there trying to support her that didn’t look too good, if she can’t take care of home how in the world could she do anything for the united states. Therefore that brings a problem of people feeling if they could trust her. As far as I’m concerned Mccain, Hilary are no different then Bush they want to keep things the way that they are and people are tired of that we need a change in the world. So I say it’s time to see what Obama has to offer and if he can change the world as he has planned to do then give him his props. People are mad at the fact that a black man finally got in office and just maybe a change will be made unstead of living like we been living. Thats how the world got like this in the first place because of Bush and all his false promises. People are in Iraq dying everyday for there so called country that Bush built he don’t care about them and there families he is a fake always has been and always will be in my book. Hilary gave off to many false promises as well and there was nothing there to prove that she could or wanted to change the world. I say give the man a chance before you tear him into pieces we don’t know what he has planned until we see what he has to offer. (Obama Rocks)he is tired of the world being backwards and I really believe he will change the world. Leave the man alone he has alot of mess to clean up after Bush why put someone else in office who is just as messy as Bush was which would of been Hilary. Mccain, Hilary, Bush are all for the rich people not the poor people. If your ready to struggle then vote for Mccain because that is exactly what you will be doing what we been doing all along struggling with high gas prices,lay-offs and etc.

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Why would anyone want to listen to the guy who helped give us 8 years of GWB. He is a Hillary hater and always has been. Do the networks not believe in objectivity anymore?

Posted by: Phil | June 4, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

I am not a political person and I don’t know who I will vote for. All I know is it will take a long time to fix the mistakes of the past and I honestly do not believe it can be done in a 4 year term. I do know I did not like Clinton in office and what started out as a great respect for Bush turned out to be a great dislike and I can’t wait for his exit. How can anybody fix the mess caused by the past. I guess the next President can’t be any worse. America needs a change quick. But who? With all the bantering and mudslinging are the American people getting an accurate picture of the candidates. Why can’t the press focus on the qualifications of the candidates so people like myself who don’t get to involved can get a more accurate picture. You sign on to a news website and it’s mudslinging, not what they can do. I read the papers, but I truly cannot determine who the better person would be based on qualifications. Every time a candidate says something it is analyzed and interpreted in the worst way. The press does not report facts, it reports gossip on most occasions.
My personal fear is that McCain is 71 years old. Keep that in mind when voting because the Vice President will be running this country for him. Obama, not against, not sure I am for yet. I do not oppose him becoming President even with his lack of experience. After all a fresh perspective may be what America needs. Hillary, she’s to arrogant for my taste, but that does not make her unqualified for the job, I just personally don’t like her. She could be good for our Country and she could worse. I have still not ruled her out.
What I don’t like is all the negative. Yes Hillary is a woman, who cares. Yes Obama is a 1/2 black 1/2 white, who cares. Sex and race have nothing to do with who will do a better job. Either one of them could surprise you. They both have a lot to bring to the table. Neither one could be any worse that what we have now.
Like with Bush, we thought we got the perfect President, and look what happened. It really does not matter what any of the candidates say in their speeches. Their politicians, they say what we want to hear so they can get our vote. Be wary of what you read. Remember, juicy gossip sells papers. Be sure to filter out the negative “gossip” and focus on what they can do. Decide for yourself. Do not follow others, make your own choice even if it’s not the majority vote. Be true to yourself weather it’s McCain, Obama, or Clinton. I always say go with your gut instinct, it’s usually right. Stop being swayed by all the negative things being said on web sites. It’s to easy to read this garbage and fall into the trap of hate and contempt.
Each candidate deserves respect for their accomplishments. It’s easy to sit here and talk trash about them, we are not in their shoes. They worked hard to get where they are today, show some respect. Give each of them a chance to prove themselves and in November make an educated vote, not a rash vote based on the biased opinions of others.
I am unsure and I really don’t like to vote, but this year I am going to read up on the candidates, I am going to listen, and I will vote. I only pray whomever is the next President does a better job than the last few.
Thanks for the forum.

Posted by: Chris | June 4, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Obama proves to survive challenges during his campaign. One of such is his Pastor’s comments. This proves he will do the same for the American People in these tough times. I ask all Amricans to vote for him come Nov.

Posted by: kakai | June 4, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Don’t forget, Barack Obama was the one who let the dogs out. And they ate that poor little kitty.

Posted by: Picard | June 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

I am so confused about all that is going on. Is anybody else? Don’t want either Obama or John McCain. Romney would have made a great President. Hope McCain picks him for a running mate, then that’s my vote.

Posted by: Jean Ann | June 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Both Obama and Clinton believed in Non Free Trade and both stands in the Middle Court of all debates; these are weak policies and allow extended campaign. Both wishes to protect the American livelihood, but both do not have clear policies going about to protect the work force in the long run becuse they contradict the economic theory of comparative advantage.
Obama is more likeable and serene; Clinton is too and dominating these strong characters may not give her the advantage to work closely with her peers; too forceful frightens the rest of the policy makers.
In view of these variances, Mccain stands a better chance for long term prosperity for the US but he should balance with creating jobs and security for the Americans and hence the world.

Posted by: mengsoon | June 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

This isn’t about pastors, it’s about the insane war, the horrible economy, the mortgage crisis, the price of fuel, the staggering national debt, the lack of adequate health care, and a host of other adverse situations. John McCain is too like Bush to right the ship. As for Hillary, she’s ambitious, vicious, malicious, mendacious, and ungracious. She also has an army of undereducated militant hags who adore her for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Richard | June 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

E-Z,
She Fussed too much and we want peace.

Posted by: Another Lady | June 4, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

Oh! Well Hillary & Bill Clinton this is where line clearly get drawn please you both need to “Shut UP” now forever instead of causing division between our party for selfish interest.Barack Obama took the bigger price tonight we americans are ready to bring change and hope to every soul around the globe matter-of-fact including animals in the forest,fish inside the water,birds flying around the sky definitely will feel relieve barack winning Novemeber 2008.

Posted by: Abdul Olufowobi | June 4, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

When judgement is informed by a base of hatred or frustration, some of the potential ways of moving forward to resolve problems and produce outcomes for the general good are hard to see.
If it is possible for Democrats to resist the tendency to vilify each other, our energy can be directed toward defining effective policies and governing positions.
We can work jointly tomorrow. Why wouldn’t we?

Posted by: Brian | June 4, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Obama won by working the system, particularly the Caucaus states. All democrats should look at Jeraln’s report at http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/27/92144/7994

Posted by: true democrat | June 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

i agree with geraldine ferraro’s statement that ‘obama is lucky because he’s black…’ and for hillary to concede as his running mate is somewhat an insult to her intelligence. it’s like licking her own wound. imagine, treating her as a ‘domestic helper’in the white house if ever. asst. to obama who will do all the dirty job for him being well experienced and knowledgible. can you stomach that?? how would you feel???? let him do his own thing and let’s see what happens. hillary, ‘you could do better than that’. if it’s not meant for you, it’s not meant to be. it’s not the only thing in the world. taking the VP position is like a demotion to your prestigious title as being the former first lady of the country. enough is enough!!! at least… have an honorable exit. thank you for heeding my advice.

Posted by: MARTIN | June 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

From the way I read this and if Iam wrong please forgive me … did any BLACKS vote for Hillary? Your all a joke and you dare to call me a racist … Hillary is a liar? Obama is a sain? I guess that 20 yrs of going to that church mean nothing, lol. He got out of the church when he had no need for the black vote, lol. Good luck if he makes it into the WH … the name is not going to be changed to the Black house to please you all.
Have a grat nite and call me anything you want … I am a proud American and Obama did not have to tell me that … oppps, I got it wrong … it was his wife that said it. LMBO

Posted by: Kris | June 4, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

From the way I read this and if Iam wrong please forgive me … did any BLACKS vote for Hillary? Your all a joke and you dare to call me a racist … Hillary is a liar? Obama is a sain? I guess that 20 yrs of going to that church mean nothing, lol. He got out of the church when he had no need for the black vote, lol. Good luck if he makes it into the WH … the name is not going to be changed to the Black house to please you all.
Have a grat nite and call me anything you want … I am a proud American and Obama did not have to tell me that … oppps, I got it wrong … it was his wife that said it. LMBO

Posted by: Kris | June 4, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Why can’t we all get along and just vote what we EACH believe to be the better candidate. We’re in 2008 for goodness sake! Halleluja we’ve finally added some representation in the candidates for Presidency (White Male, Black Male & Female) — congratulations to all. I am a loyal Democrat and will support my party…Obama 08. All you Haters for either party…use your negative energy to help your party!!!

Posted by: mm | June 4, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

28 years under bushes and clintons.that is really too long.that boys name in my earlier comment was pvt.ziegler 3rd Id ft.stewart.He never got to smoke and dont exhale.he never got to hide behind his father in the texas national guard,or behind flower bearers in bosnia under sniper fire and all that make believe experience as first lady.he just got the sniper fire and the ied’s.so be racist or feminist or sexist or any other isms you would like to be while you can.be cause he laid down his young life for a belief in God and Country.Man the more I think about the young life wasted.Don’t vote for obama because he’s black.vote for him to bring those that are still alive home.ziegler didnt have a real life.no girlfriend to come home and marry…no kids..no grandkids for his mom.just what could have been and maybe’s…man this war sucks.vote obama

Posted by: djohns | June 4, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

“It ain’t Over until the Lady in Pant Suits say Its over” and She’ll “Never Back Down” as there is a Great reason for it . Go Woman go!!

Posted by: Jack Joshua Miller | June 4, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Hillary simply lost because she couldn’t hack it!
what a sore loser now she wants vice?
HA Ha
I pray not

Posted by: LISA | June 4, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

OPERA for VP … LMBO again.

Posted by: Kris | June 4, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

I like many of my cohorts are donating (more) money to the Obama campaign. Bush in the past eight years has run this country into the ground in the same way he has run his past failed businesses into the ground. I don’t want another Republican with similar policies in office! He just doesn’t seem different enough. And, when are we going to get over Obama’s race? Jeeez, the man is as white as he is black, hellllooooo. Move on. I have much respect for McCain but my vote is going to Obama!!!!!

Posted by: Janice | June 4, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

I had to come back and reply to the remark the “hillary fan” made, are you seriously calling Obama a racist, because you have self doubt, you stated you dont know if your a racist you probably are, but you dont know, what the hell does that mean? Ignorance is truly bliss in a world of an ignorant nieve fool, who calls themselve a democrat, but will vote for a woman who claims to be against the war but voted for it. Instead of an upstanding man who wants our troops home, yeah your ignorant and just down right stupid. Your the reason while females are continously downgraded, disrespected, and treated at lesser value.

Posted by: Jessica | June 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

The media is a very powerful tool.They made this a Clinton / Obama race despite John Edwards having experience and sound ideas to move this country forward.It seems that hearing the same thing from more than one source makes it real to us.The media did not want Obama ,they wanted someone they thought Clinton could beat because McCain had a better popularity rating than Clinton.

Posted by: Bo H | June 4, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

mga kababayan kong Pinoy,
Let us support Mr Obama

Posted by: mgb | June 4, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Obama is the perfect candidate to ensure a Republican win!! They’ll cream him and his racist beliefs.
Funny, he’s wearing the flag on his lable now, resigned from his racist church after 23 yrs membership with a pastor who was like a family member, and a first lady who claims to have never been proud of the United States? Who are they kidding? Not me!! Without Hillary, Nobama doesn’t stand a chance.

Posted by: I'm republican now | June 4, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

People that say they are democrats and will vote for McCain just because Hillary loose it, are really stupid and deserves four more years of the same. Who don’t know that Bush is spending 10B a month is this stupid war. I support our troops, but is this war, who are loosing is the American people. I support Obama for change and change I’ll get.

Posted by: GarotoDoRio | June 4, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

The latest CA Field Poll last week shows that a significant majority of California Democrats would today vote for Obama over Hillary. A lot has changed in six months.
Regardless of the candidate, however, Americans are hungry for CIVILITY (not demonstrated on many posts here) and STATESPERSONSHIP!
Americans are tired of the last 16 years of bickering and “gotcha” politics.
Obama succeeded in part because he demonstrated moderation and hope and a new beginning across party lines. He almost didn’t succeed because of the hatred that comes from his own church. I grew up in the south and remember the same racist hate rhetoric–just from the other side of the spectrum.
I am open to voting for either candidate and hope the campaign provides us the info we need to know to make a wise decision. But I expect to see the “hate machines”–left and right– to emerge in the fall.
Most of these blogs are “AGAINST” candidates–we need voters and candidates who are “FOR” the common good. Issues are important, but no matter who wins, it will be a disaster to see hate mongering continue to dominate our politics. Opposing a candidate does not have to be “hating” the candidate, their character, integrity, intentions, or more.

Posted by: California Larry | June 4, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

The only reason why that lolipop won was because of all the propaganda all over the media. Congrats to all you sheep, guess you elected the ‘right man’. Oh well, thats politics for you.

Posted by: Kayla | June 4, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

The only reason why that lolipop won was because of all the propaganda all over the media. Congrats to all you sheep, guess you elected the ‘right man’. Oh well, thats politics for you.

Posted by: Kayla | June 4, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Why does people go on and on about the media’s portrayal of Obama? Did the media not run and re-run images of Rev. Wright on every single major news station? Did they not air that woman wondering why Obama didn’t wear a flag pin? Did they not snap and run pics of Obama in native gear as he accepted an award in another country? Please. Folks stop making excuses. He took his share of negative broadcasting. At the same time, I didn’t see pics of Rev. Wright at the White House shaking Bill’s hand on every station. There was hardly a peep of Hillary’s pastor being prosecuted on molestation charges. And so on. What many of you are saying is that many Americans cannot think for themselves, that many of trust in the media to think for us. When backed into a corner, people look for an out. If Hillary had won the nomination none of this would even be an issue.

Posted by: smoothsoulsisah | June 4, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

White females are pissed that a Black male beat them for the chance to be President of the United states.
The way it usually goes
White male, white female,Black male, black female.
How dare he didn’t wait his turn.

Posted by: culpeperson | June 4, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

She comes off as too power hungry, boisterous, stubborn, and vindictive. She and Bill tossed a lot of negatism and excuses and gleams all while doing it. Last but not least, Bill wanted to be President Again through Hillary. They forgot how Bill pimped his position and took the White House as a sexual playground.

Posted by: Tired | June 4, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Its been a long,long primary “season”.
I’m 64 and no, I didn’t support HRC. It wasn’t because I didn’t like her. Actually, I did. What I didn’t like was her mean spirited manner, Her “mis-spoke” re: her having to run from sniper fire. I also think it had to do with the way she looked for dirt and spread it. No one is perfect but no one should be so mean. I voted for Obama and will do so again in November. It’s time for a change. It’s time humility and peace entered the Oval Office. It’s time to see smiles instead of snarls. I was too young to vote for JFK. At that time one had to be 21 to vote. Now, one can vote at 18. I voted for every Democrat that ran since then. We’re praying for you, Barack Obama. It’s time. YES WE CAN.

Posted by: Gwen | June 4, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Its been a long,long primary “season”.
I’m 64 and no, I didn’t support HRC. It wasn’t because I didn’t like her. Actually, I did. What I didn’t like was her mean spirited manner, Her “mis-spoke” re: her having to run from sniper fire. I also think it had to do with the way she looked for dirt and spread it. No one is perfect but no one should be so mean. I voted for Obama and will do so again in November. It’s time for a change. It’s time humility and peace entered the Oval Office. It’s time to see smiles instead of snarls. I was too young to vote for JFK. At that time one had to be 21 to vote. Now, one can vote at 18. I voted for every Democrat that ran since then. We’re praying for you, Barack Obama. It’s time. YES WE CAN.

Posted by: Gwen | June 4, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Hillary stepped on Obama’s victory today which was historic. So much for Bill being the Black president.
I agree that if she becomes VP, Obama will have to have a food taster and watch his back. Clinton supporters went over the top and bruised Obama these past months.

Posted by: culpeperson | June 4, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

This is a sad excuse for a voter!
“We’ve come a long way baby!” For what? For you to whine and scream about Hilary’s unfair treatment! I am a black female who believed in Bill when his pants were around his ankles, and I believed then that Hilary was the true president! Maybe that was her time or maybe its later! But if it were HER time she would be the nominee. I’m sorry Barack and Hilary have taken detrimental blows from the media. I believe the media gives what it is asked for …DRAMA…in whatever form or fashion it can deliver it. Today I can say if Hilary had won, she would’ve had my support! It simply wasn’t her time! Someone came from nowhere with hope and she just didn’t catch that in time. TV execs know that sex gets the public attention, and a young politician, staff, with dreams and aspirations saw that America was drowning in tears, frustration, and debt and he promoted change and hope. He inspired and transformed. What is so wrong with taking a chance on hope and inspiration instead of “experience and more experience”. Why is it that ‘hopeful’ Obama supporters would have supported the ‘experienced’ Hillary supporters, and you not do the same. Something is wrong with that! A democratic vote should be a democratic vote!
‘…had some genius not put an african american candidate in there to confuse black voters….’
- Why are we confused? What does this mean?
‘…Had she been given all the delegates for the states she won…instead if them giving some to Obama she would have been won…’
- So, you believe it is fair to give her all the votes, and her name was the only one on the ballot? Is that fair?
‘…LET HIM WIN THIS WITHOUT US…’
- do you believe Hillary could win it without us ? Sadly, I don’t think she would have had to find out. Just as Obama won this with much grace, he would have conceded the same, graciously asked his supporters to back Hillary, and guess what….We would have!
OBAMA SUPPORTERS DONT GET IT TWISTED…HE WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT AS BUSH WAS NOT…Just as u express your support for him…We Hillary Supporters should be allowed to do the same without being called anything other than an American…If U Can Dish It U Can Take It…Hillary should have won and would have won had some genius not put an african american candidate in there to confuse black voters….Everyone knows this was her time that she waited patiently for…Had she been given all the delegates for the states she won…instead if them giving some to Obama she would have been won…This thing was fixed since someone convinced him to run…Since Hillary is no longer in it…NEITHER AM I OR SEVERAL OTHER HILLARY SUPPORTERS…LET HIM WIN THIS WITHOUT US

Posted by: YoMo | June 4, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

HILLARY-a.k.a SORE LOSER!
I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT BAD BEHAVIOR SHE HAS EXHIBITED! SHE’S ACTING LIKE THE WIFE OF MACBETH!
CAN’T WIN SO KILL IT.

Posted by: addie | June 4, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

HILLARY-a.k.a SORE LOSER!
I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT BAD BEHAVIOR SHE HAS EXHIBITED! SHE’S ACTING LIKE THE WIFE OF MACBETH!
CAN’T WIN SO KILL IT.

Posted by: addie | June 4, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

I am positive that the news (even the very pro-Obama CNN) has repeated the FACT that Clinton won the popular vote, even after giving Obama the non votes in Michigan (like they really voted for him when they voted for no one.. wtf?)
If she got the popular vote then she also would have gotten the big hidden candidates votes as they vote according to the popular vote.
This is a sham. Obama’s liberal army also did this for him in Clinton’s home state with Obama’s senate win (they disqualified and made the winning candidate back out so Obama would win).
He will be tried for treason within 45 days if he were elected. Along with Pelosi and many other Congressmen and women.
His Global Poverty Bill is against our Bill of Rights in so many ways and all the next President needs to do is sign it in.
I’m voting for McCain, at least he has a plan.

Posted by: JLMEAL | June 4, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

I am positive that the news (even the very pro-Obama CNN) has repeated the FACT that Clinton won the popular vote, even after giving Obama the non votes in Michigan (like they really voted for him when they voted for no one.. wtf?)
If she got the popular vote then she also would have gotten the big hidden candidates votes as they vote according to the popular vote.
This is a sham. Obama’s liberal army also did this for him in Clinton’s home state with Obama’s senate win (they disqualified and made the winning candidate back out so Obama would win).
He will be tried for treason within 45 days if he were elected. Along with Pelosi and many other Congressmen and women.
His Global Poverty Bill is against our Bill of Rights in so many ways and all the next President needs to do is sign it in.
I’m voting for McCain, at least he has a plan.

Posted by: JLMEAL | June 4, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

The comments I made at 1:14 have come true in all but one of the posts since then!

Posted by: California Larry | June 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

This is a sad excuse for a voter!(HILARY SUPPORTER #1)
“We’ve come a long way baby!” For what? For you to whine and scream about Hilary’s unfair treatment! I am a black female who believed in Bill when his pants were around his ankles, and I believed then that Hilary was the true president! Maybe that was her time or maybe its later! But if it were HER time she would be the nominee. I’m sorry Barack and Hilary have taken detrimental blows from the media. I believe the media gives what it is asked for …DRAMA…in whatever form or fashion it can deliver it. Today I can say if Hilary had won, she would’ve had my support! It simply wasn’t her time! Someone came from nowhere with hope and she just didn’t catch that in time. TV execs know that sex gets the public attention, and a young politician, staff, with dreams and aspirations saw that America was drowning in tears, frustration, and debt and he promoted change and hope. He inspired and transformed. What is so wrong with taking a chance on hope and inspiration instead of “experience and more experience”. Why is it that ‘hopeful’ Obama supporters would have supported the ‘experienced’ Hillary supporters, and you not do the same. Something is wrong with that! A democratic vote should be a democratic vote!
‘…had some genius not put an african american candidate in there to confuse black voters….’
- Why are we confused? What does this mean?
‘…Had she been given all the delegates for the states she won…instead if them giving some to Obama she would have been won…’
- So, you believe it is fair to give her all the votes, and her name was the only one on the ballot? Is that fair?
‘…LET HIM WIN THIS WITHOUT US…’
- do you believe Hillary could win it without us ? Sadly, I don’t think she would have had to find out. Just as Obama won this with much grace, he would have conceded the same, graciously asked his supporters to back Hillary, and guess what….We would have!
OBAMA SUPPORTERS DONT GET IT TWISTED…HE WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT AS BUSH WAS NOT…Just as u express your support for him…We Hillary Supporters should be allowed to do the same without being called anything other than an American…If U Can Dish It U Can Take It…Hillary should have won and would have won had some genius not put an african american candidate in there to confuse black voters….Everyone knows this was her time that she waited patiently for…Had she been given all the delegates for the states she won…instead if them giving some to Obama she would have been won…This thing was fixed since someone convinced him to run…Since Hillary is no longer in it…NEITHER AM I OR SEVERAL OTHER HILLARY SUPPORTERS…LET HIM WIN THIS WITHOUT US

Posted by: YoMo | June 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

I have read so many bitter & angry comments here about both Obama & Hillary. What I haven’t read is what should have been here. The problems of this country will never be settled by one individual person, be they white, black, male, female or any other distinction you wish to make. We are all GOD’S CHILDREN. If we do not learn how to come together as one people under GOD with everyone’s best interest first instead of one individual interest first, we will never experience the change for the better that this country so desperately needs. Only together can this be accomplished. We can either make our lives better or destroy ourselves. Don’t let emotion make your choice. Use your brain and do what is best for your country each and every day of your life, not just at a voting booth. That is when you will see changes for the better.

Posted by: Carol | June 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Yeah, I’m kinda at a loss at how Clinton’s complicity in the Iraq war isn’t mentioned at all.
A lot of people have noticed how Clinton has been a Senator. She won her election easily, and yet, even as a Senator from the liberal state of New York, she never actually espoused liberal positions. She repeatedly bought into the tired approach of triangulation, which presumes that Republicans will always be the majority party.
A lot of Democrats got sick of this defeatist attitude.

Posted by: Whispers | June 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Google Ed Rendell & Farrakhan
Please don’t don’t pick Rendell as the right wing has video of Rendell praising brother Farakhan.

Posted by: culpeperson | June 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Barack won because he inspired us to dream. If I could have one moment to speak with Hillary, I would say:
Senator Clinton,
In my humble opinion as a citizen of this great nation which is desperate for hope and change instead of fear and the same, I BEG you to join your efforts with Barack Obama’s efforts. We must prevent John McCain from being the next president of the United States of America. Please stop division. Your joining will bring unity… We need both of you…

Posted by: Claudine | June 4, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

I think of those commenting here are repubs trying to make the dems fight for ever and finally lose the presidency in nov. That cant happen. Dems aint enemies and we are going to vote for whoever wins the nomination. period.

Posted by: Edward | June 4, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

I think most of those commenting here are repubs trying to make the dems fight for ever and finally lose the presidency in nov. That wont happen. Dems aint enemies and we are going to vote for whoever wins the nomination. period.

Posted by: Edward | June 4, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

we’ve all seen america as it is for the past 16 years. Look at the issues that we were faced with look at who was in power and the issues that were focused on compassion rules which side could run the white house using compassion it is better for a campbell to enter into the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into heaven. our work here is for the life to come which side could make moral decisions we all have faults who could have the least

Posted by: floyd | June 4, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

we’ve all seen america as it is for the past 16 years. Look at the issues that we were faced with look at who was in power and the issues that were focused on compassion rules which side could run the white house using compassion it is better for a campbell to enter into the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into heaven. our work here is for the life to come which side could make moral decisions we all have faults who could have the least

Posted by: floyd | June 4, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

let history repeat with the clintons of the 90′s.go renegade and run independent Hillary clinton!

Posted by: paul rodarte | June 4, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

THE MOST INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS PRIMARY IS THE THREAT BY HILARY’S VOTERS. THAT IF OBAMA IS THE CANDIDATE THEN THEY’LL VOTE FOR MCCAIN. SO IF THAT’S THE CASE, THEY’RE WILLING TO LET THE COUNTRY GO DOWN THE TOILET..TO ALLOW POLITICS AS USUAL..OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS..OUR CHILDREN DYING IN A WAR THAT WE SHOULDN’T HAVE EVER ENTERED…TO SEE THE COUNTRY GO DEEPER INTO A RECESSION..ALL FOR WHAT..TO PROVE A POINT..WELL KUDOS TO YOU..

Posted by: BEV T-LOS ANGELES, CA | June 4, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Which one of you white folks do I call for my 50 acres and a mule. After reading a good portion of the post from today this is the attitude that I’m taking. I understand that you don’t like the man because of the color of his skin. It couldn’t be for any other reason, because you don’t have any reason to speak about him in the tone that you have used. I believe that there are some things in America that will never change such as racism. I haven’t read all of the post, but I suspect that one of you have or will refer to Senator Obama as a “N.I.G.E.R” or maybe that’s what you meant by communist. Not one black man has ever caused America to go to war. Not one black man has ever caused a deficit or recession in America. Not one black man has ever enslaved an entire people so that they could profit. Not one black man has ever intimated or alienated an entire world. Not one black man has ever promised to take care of a nation and failed time and time again. Do I have to go on? As always…”they smile up in your face, all the time they want to take your place, the back stabbers”. Too bad we don’t have elections where the candidates race and gender are disguised and you had to vote based on the only the issues brought to the table, their contributions and background.

Posted by: lsimpson | June 4, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Obama won becaused he lied and he played dirty by the way he was putting Hillary down in the beginning and when she fought back Obama twisted everything around and cried like a baby and made Hillary look bad, it’s just amazing how he fooled all you people. Bush fooled you and now your letting Obama fool you. Change is why you voted for Obama because he kept saying change, well Bush said the same line and look at this country, just because Obama says change does not mean good change, his change is evil and i will not vote for him or McCain and if there is a independent that’s who i will vote for so for you people who don’t like Obama and you are going to vote for McCain then your not very smart because he is not any better and you will have Bush for another four years, so vote independent if there is one and if not then do not VOTE AT ALL, TWO WRONGS DON’T MAKE IT RIGHT

Posted by: GRANDAM | June 4, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

To Martin. Obama’s wife is already planning on repainting the WH. I have this great fear that it will turn into the Black House and the walls will be covered with zebra skins, black/white rugs, jungle spears, whatever else .. This is no racial slur either. It is just a gut feeling and one that feels our country is in for a heap of trouble. I can see the repatriotism act evolving soon, so the Blacks can finally get a paycheck for what was done to them decades ago = slavery . There will be college funds and funds for this and that , and all for the minority, thus not for white folks due to because of what our ancestors did to slaves years ago. We will have a divided nation, maybe all of whites will be put on reservations just for hoots and holler ? I don’t trust this fool as far as I can throw him. No racial pun intended.. Never trust a bamboozler If we’ve been bambozzled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bambozzler. The bambozzler has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. It is not bigotry to be certain we are right, but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. Without something to hate, we should lose the very spring of thought and action. I believe You are your work. Don’t trade your stuff of your life time, for nothing more than dollars. That’s a rotten bargain. Few friendships would survive if each one knew what his friend was saying of him behind his back. A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has to get it’s pants on! There is no way to peace; peace is the answer.

Posted by: MontanaVoter | June 4, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

anyone advocating mccain is advocating for the republican party- iran-contra, watergate, corporate welfare, cuts in education, endless war, resealing the jfk assasination, hiding the truth, assaulting the bill of rights with scalia,thomas, alito. cheaper to verbally confront iranian lunatics than to spend billions of taxpayer dollars pounding more mideast sand. and proving said lunatics right, to their own people. we americans are responsible for our own actions- let’s lead by example and elect a different pack of liars, if nothing else. the cynic in me knows it will take more than 4 years to fix this country, no matter who gets elected. BUT WHAT HATH THE RED ELEPHANT WROUGHT? it has not gotten global assistance regarding iraq, and promises to squander more life by invading iran. the red herrings & peccadillos of the democrats are small by comparison. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE WORKED HARD TO EARN MY UNDYING DISTRUST. give no quarter to republican piracy- make them walk the plank.

Posted by: dimitri grant | June 4, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

To all of you out there who are concerned that OBAMA is black and you should be afraid, you are wrong,,,Do not judge someone because of their skin color,,,He is 1/2 white also,,,,
If you want to be concerned that he thinks the GOVT has all the answers and we must raise taxes , then this is a legitimate reason to be concerned,,,
OBAMA was always polite and educated throughout the campaign,,,Hilliary was a sleeze, ran a sleezy terror campaign and now is trying to force herself on the ticket,,,
IF OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE HILLIARY, HE BETTER DUCK AS OBAMA WILL BE SHOT BY ONE OF HER HENCEMEN,,,lOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO 50 PEOPLE IN ARKANSAS,,,WHERE IS MR FOSTER??
OBAMA will surround himself with educated people like himself ,,this is not an issue,,,BUT BESIDES PULLING OUT THE TROOPS FROM IRAQ, WHAT ELSE WILL HE DO/// raise taxes and have wasteful govt?
McCain needs to demonstrate that he is a true maverick like he used to be,,,
At least we will not have anymore Bushes or Clintons,,,
LET THE MADNESS BEGIN

Posted by: alonzo | June 4, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

To all of you out there who are concerned that OBAMA is black and you should be afraid, you are wrong,,,Do not judge someone because of their skin color,,,He is 1/2 white also,,,,
If you want to be concerned that he thinks the GOVT has all the answers and we must raise taxes , then this is a legitimate reason to be concerned,,,
OBAMA was always polite and educated throughout the campaign,,,Hilliary was a sleeze, ran a sleezy terror campaign and now is trying to force herself on the ticket,,,
IF OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE HILLIARY, HE BETTER DUCK AS OBAMA WILL BE SHOT BY ONE OF HER HENCEMEN,,,lOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO 50 PEOPLE IN ARKANSAS,,,WHERE IS MR FOSTER??
OBAMA will surround himself with educated people like himself ,,this is not an issue,,,BUT BESIDES PULLING OUT THE TROOPS FROM IRAQ, WHAT ELSE WILL HE DO/// raise taxes and have wasteful govt?
McCain needs to demonstrate that he is a true maverick like he used to be,,,
At least we will not have anymore Bushes or Clintons,,,
LET THE MADNESS BEGIN

Posted by: alonzo | June 4, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Hillary and I are the same age and I respected her up until this speech (which should have been her last). But, oh no she can’t give up the power, and for her supporters to make the remark that this should have been her day! for what? wait up and smell the coffee. This was a historic moment but she still wanted the limelight. Any one that suggest she sould be VP is crazy. All she’s ever been was the wife of a President, thats all. stop dreaming. Years ago Black men had to step off the sidewalks whenever a white woman walked by, but this is the 21st century and I hope Obama do not select this woman as his VP, and if he do so, I will still vote but, for John McCain. This WORKING-CLASS BLACK WOMAN will not vote for Hillary.

Posted by: WCBW | June 4, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

I’m tired of the dumbass whiners from Florida and Michigan crying about their votes being taken from them. Their dumbasses voted to move up their primaries after agreeing to do them at the appropriate time, and don’t whine that it was ur republican legislature cause ur dumbass voted them in there. Only Michigan voters need reply to this post cause Florida dumbasses are the reason we’re in the Republican mess from the last 7 years so your response privilages are revoked and I’m sorry ur dumbass is gettin half a vote.

Posted by: AngryDem | June 4, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Everybody has to stop creating more hatred. Bush government has done it enough already. Whether Obama is fit or not fit for the position, definitely Mccain is the worst case. If Hillary would have won the nomination, you did not want the Obama supporters join you and support her. Yes or No? It goes same way for other side. At the beginning everybody was expecting her to win. I tdid not happened. Get over it and think big. Gas price, Outsourceing, Job cuts, Iraq war, House forclosures,… How many more want me to count for you. Grow out of this inter fighting and fight with real enemy.

Posted by: Christian | June 4, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

You left out the biggest reason, Dowdy — she voted for this criminal and immoral war.
Nice going, clodhopper.

Posted by: eyeswideopen | June 4, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Interesting reading:
Over the summer, Mr. Obama
> talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons;
> meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to
> destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is
> murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear
> option was off the table against terrorists – something no president has
> ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s.
> Even Democrats who have worked in national security
> condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who
> would put our national security at risk.

Posted by: wiser | June 4, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

I’ve read through most of the comments and it just sickens me to see how childish some of the comments are.
I’m weary of all the candidates but honestly, hot air or not, Obama seems like a breath of fresh air. The other two, well, let’s see…each has a very lengthy history in politics but how have they truly helped us. When I think of Hillary, I think of all my former co-workers who’ve had their jobs torn from them, lost to out-sourcing. Whose pockets was Hillary thinking of? As for McCain, he seems like he’s still grappling to define himself outside of Bush-like tendencies. Experience is a very necessary but we as Americans cannot afford to be caught up in the same OLD politics. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I hope that those of you riding on your emotions can pause long enough to use your common sense rather than make a rash decision.
WE HAVE TO PUT AMERICA FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: A little O | June 4, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Which one of you white folks do I call for my 50 acres and a mule. After reading a good portion of the post from today this is the attitude that I’m taking. I understand that you don’t like the man because of the color of his skin. It couldn’t be for any other reason, because you don’t have any reason to speak about him in the tone that you have used. I believe that there are some things in America that will never change such as racism. I haven’t read all of the post, but I suspect that one of you have or will refer to Senator Obama as a “N.I.G.E.R” or maybe that’s what you meant by communist. Not one black man has ever caused America to go to war. Not one black man has ever caused a deficit or recession in America. Not one black man has ever enslaved an entire people so that they could profit. Not one black man has ever intimated or alienated an entire world. Not one black man has ever promised to take care of a nation and failed time and time again. Do I have to go on? As always…”they smile up in your face, all the time they want to take your place, the back stabbers”. Too bad we don’t have elections where the candidates race and gender are disguised and you had to vote based on the only the issues brought to the table, their contributions and background.

Posted by: lsimpson | June 4, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Which one of you white folks do I call for my 50 acres and a mule. After reading a good portion of the post from today this is the attitude that I’m taking. I understand that you don’t like the man because of the color of his skin. It couldn’t be for any other reason, because you don’t have any reason to speak about him in the tone that you have used. I believe that there are some things in America that will never change such as racism. I haven’t read all of the post, but I suspect that one of you have or will refer to Senator Obama as a “N.I.G.E.R” or maybe that’s what you meant by communist. Not one black man has ever caused America to go to war. Not one black man has ever caused a deficit or recession in America. Not one black man has ever enslaved an entire people so that they could profit. Not one black man has ever intimated or alienated an entire world. Not one black man has ever promised to take care of a nation and failed time and time again. Do I have to go on? As always…”they smile up in your face, all the time they want to take your place, the back stabbers”. Too bad we don’t have elections where the candidates race and gender are disguised and you had to vote based on the only the issues brought to the table, their contributions and background.

Posted by: lsimpson | June 4, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Here are a couple of imagines for you:
Obama is good looking, and a jock.
Hillary didn’t make cheerleading but she was Class President. Never quite a 60′s “Hippie”. Someone who could help you with your homework…cause she got A’s….when you got C’s or never attended college at all.
Or she is the mean school Principal who didn’t like you, and/or the Mother that didn’t think you were good enough to date her daughter.
This is where people are taking themselves, but will never admit it. And that is a imagine that she projects for alot of white men.
Funny, but it is more jealousy than it is racism. As the the reality is that most whites who won’t vote for him because he’s black have never in fact had an experience where they were harmed by someone black.
Maybe they just lost the basketball…or some other guy got the date.
Mc Cain has the typical dyed blonde trophy wife with a trust fund, and is a former Viodin drug abuser. But he represents the old guard which is safe…be that Bush or who ever…he’s old. And for some he is still safe…and holds their interests.
An intelligent well educated Ivy League black man is new for some people…particulary to be someone in charge. And he can play basketball.
Sometimes people are drawn to those who are most familiar to you.
P.S. One of the most admired men in the world, or at least in the US…for the last 40 years…is a Muslim.
SURPRISE! That would be Mohammed Ali.

Posted by: Pilates Hottie Boomer | June 4, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Here are a couple of imagines for you:
Obama is good looking, and a jock.
Hillary didn’t make cheerleading but she was Class President. Never quite a 60′s “Hippie”. Someone who could help you with your homework…cause she got A’s….when you got C’s or never attended college at all.
Or she is the mean school Principal who didn’t like you, and/or the Mother that didn’t think you were good enough to date her daughter.
This is where people are taking themselves, but will never admit it. And that is a imagine that she projects for alot of white men.
Funny, but it is more jealousy than it is racism. As the the reality is that most whites who won’t vote for him because he’s black have never in fact had an experience where they were harmed by someone black.
Maybe they just lost the basketball…or some other guy got the date.
Mc Cain has the typical dyed blonde trophy wife with a trust fund, and is a former Viodin drug abuser. But he represents the old guard which is safe…be that Bush or who ever…he’s old. And for some he is still safe…and holds their interests.
An intelligent well educated Ivy League black man is new for some people…particulary to be someone in charge. And he can play basketball.
Sometimes people are drawn to those who are most familiar to you.
P.S. One of the most admired men in the world, or at least in the US…for the last 40 years…is a Muslim.
SURPRISE! That would be Mohammed Ali.

Posted by: Pilates Hottie Boomer | June 4, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

You, Proudlibrul, The only reason you haven’t voted for a republican candidate before as a democrate is because a black democratic candidate has never face a white republican in the past in GE. Question yourself and confirm my statement.

Posted by: To Proudlibrul | June 4, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

To Hillary’s supporters:
What a bunch of whiney sore losers! For those of you threatening to vote for McCain in November – please do so!
We will win anyway. We don’t need or want your hateful vindictiveness polluting our campaign. Hillary lost because her disingenuous and sociopathic rhetoric didn’t fool all of us. She thought that SHE was the “rockstar” and that her position was unassailable. She still can’t come to terms with the reality that she is not entitled to the nomination, and is leading the chorus of whines by her supporters by claiming some “conspiracy” against her. She and the people she surrounds herself with are disgusting and vile people without any principles or scruples, only an all-consuming instinct to grasp power. The methods or message used to achieve that power are irrelavent to them. America won a victory when Obama won the nomination, and we can only pray that he will not erase that victory by choosing her to join the ticket, however politically expedient some believe that choice to be. To those who would choose John McCain and 4000 more dead Americans in Iraq – stop insulting Democrats by calling yourself one.

Posted by: Mike | June 4, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

Hillary gave too much hope and too high estimate to her husband Bill Clinton, but he has been damaging her campaign since day one to day end. Hillary should not be the VP for Obama, but reserve the chance for 2012 against McCain’s mid-term.

Posted by: Jessy in Texas | June 4, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

nope…iraq!

Posted by: soooslo | June 4, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Jeez, Matthew, what part of THE WAR do you not understand?

Posted by: Alan in SF | June 4, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Interesting reading:
Over the summer, Mr. Obama
> talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons;
> meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to
> destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is
> murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear
> option was off the table against terrorists – something no president has
> ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s.
> Even Democrats who have worked in national security
> condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who
> would put our national security at risk.

Posted by: wiser | June 4, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

It’s the war, stupid.

Posted by: picaraza | June 4, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

IT AIN’T OVER ‘TIL IT’S OVER… I THINK McCAIN IS HAVING A BALL NOW. WHY? IF HILLARY DROPS OUT OF THE RACE, WHERE WILL HER VOTERS GO? OF COURSE THEY WON’T VOTE FOR OBAMA.SO, TO WHOM ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE THEIR VOTES – TO McCAIN. HELELUYAH!!!
111

Posted by: MARTIN2 | June 4, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

IT AIN’T OVER ‘TIL IT’S OVER… I THINK McCAIN IS HAVING A BALL NOW. WHY? IF HILLARY DROPS OUT OF THE RACE, WHERE WILL HER VOTERS GO? OF COURSE THEY WON’T VOTE FOR OBAMA.SO, TO WHOM ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE THEIR VOTES – TO McCAIN. HELELUYAH!!!
111

Posted by: MARTIN2 | June 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

CongraTuLations Barack Obama for your historic feat. i believe in you and will be voting for you in the fall. Lastly just a few comments i’d like to share with the fellow Hillary Clinton supporters out there…
1. First we are “ALL DEMOCRATS”.. meaning we are supposed to be on the same team. if u decide to vote for McCain in december based on the election results not landing in your favor… GROW UP!!!
2. for all that talk about how the media steered this election…Grow up. The people VOTED! no one was brainwashed, and if u believe that over 18 million americans were conned by the media… FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS!!! you simply dont have all your marbles. GROW UP
3. For AMERICA… you would have NEVER been ready for CHANGE. We have to Create it, whether YOUR ready or not. Alot of you are, but some of you still harbor deep seated racism and have superiority complexes towards other races. Grow UP. THIS IS THE YEAR 2008. GET OVER IT. IM SORRY, BUT WHITE AMERICA DOES NOT RULE THE WORLD, WE ARE NOT BETTER THAN EVERYBODY… WE ARE ALL THE SAME. FROM A WHITE MAN!!!

Posted by: david gatewood | June 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Lest they put forth their hand and eat from the tree of life.
THANK GOD WE ALL DIE IN DUE TIME.

Posted by: renzi | June 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

CongraTuLations Barack Obama for your historic feat. i believe in you and will be voting for you in the fall. Lastly just a few comments i’d like to share with the fellow Hillary Clinton supporters out there…
1. First we are “ALL DEMOCRATS”.. meaning we are supposed to be on the same team. if u decide to vote for McCain in december based on the election results not landing in your favor… GROW UP!!!
2. for all that talk about how the media steered this election…Grow up. The people VOTED! no one was brainwashed, and if u believe that over 18 million americans were conned by the media… FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS!!! you simply dont have all your marbles. GROW UP
3. For AMERICA… you would have NEVER been ready for CHANGE. We have to Create it, whether YOUR ready or not. Alot of you are, but some of you still harbor deep seated racism and have superiority complexes towards other races. Grow UP. THIS IS THE YEAR 2008. GET OVER IT. IM SORRY, BUT WHITE AMERICA DOES NOT RULE THE WORLD, WE ARE NOT BETTER THAN EVERYBODY… WE ARE ALL THE SAME. FROM A WHITE MAN!!!

Posted by: david gatewood | June 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Wow what a load of tripe! The Media should be happy that they have just handed the election to McCain. Obama won’t be getting any more offers of pillows as they spoofed on SNL. Middle America will elect the next President(sorry iPod users-you still have not elected anyone since Kennedy) It is great that the internet has got so many people excited about a Primary but the reality is that typically women over 65 have elected many of our Presidents and these women don’t feel Hillary’s voice was heard over the Obama Media hype machine. Even poor Edwards(the “other white meat”) could not get a parking ticket from the media while he was running. Too bad all the supposed Super-Delegates who were riding the fence will have to say why they took so long in deciding until it was all but assured that Obama won. This does not show confidence that even the super-delegates thought Obama was the guy. Democratic Party stinks to high heaven of everyone pandering and playing politics. It makes people like me think that McCain does not sound like such a bad choice because at least the guys votes for what he believes in and not what he thinks will get him the most votes. PS-for those who don’t know-it is much easier as a freshman Senator to vote against a War that nearly everbody else in the Democratic Party voted for. It was not really such a rebellious vote considering no fall-out for him at all to vote this way. You better believe that if Obama was going to lose some constituents he would have voted otherwise. I don’t buy his Change campaign because other than that one vote against the Iraq War-What other examples can Obama point to? The answer-NONE! Vote McCain-at least he has been to Iraq! I don’t think Obama talking to the Terrorist plan is brilliant diplomacy but actually sheer niavete. Maybe Kennedy should have just sat down with the Bad Guys during the Cuban Missile Crisis too-Oh I am am sorry does the internet generation with iPods even know their history? Give me a Walkman anyday!

Posted by: McBoston | June 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

I’d say Hillary lost because her campaign was characterized by divisive, partison politics as usual. That with a fellow Democrat during the primary season. The general election would be worse, and a Clinton presidency more of the same. I don’t think the country could bear it.

Posted by: Drew Rocker | June 4, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

The real reason Clinton lost was due to the corrupt DNC committee who gave delegates to Obama that he did not earn. This has been the most corrupt election on the part of the media and the DNC in 50 years. McCain will win. Americans are not going to be fooled by electing a socialist/marxist/communist.

Posted by: Mary | June 4, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

McBoston….You are right-on!!!! Walkman anyday.!

Posted by: wiser | June 4, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

i sincerely agree with Mathew Dowd,America wanted a good change and hence an experienced MOTHER like Clinton but her compaign strategies didnt work out well because Obama is also not simple,he made good use of the loopholes in Clintons strategies to win over,now for him to go through till the end,a coalation is needed by making Clinton the VP-this will give them the power to ouster the old prisoner from active politics,BARAKA OYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Posted by: onyango | June 4, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

I’m a woman and I will vote for McCain. I hope he appoints justices who will eventually overturn RvW and at least allow state voting again on unborn baby murder.
One would think with the increased commonality of sonograms, more people would see our precious babies as people to be protected, not this vague concept that this ‘thing’ is nothing more than an extension of a woman’s body, therefore giving her some ‘right to choose’ its fate. If not always a person, on what specific day in a baby’s prenatal life does she become a person worthy of protection?
Anyway, that’s not the primary reason I’m voting for McCain, but I’m reacting to other posts apparently addressed to all women, assuming we support baby murder, too. We don’t.
I’m voting for McCain because he’s not naive, he’s kind of a ‘SOB’, pardon the language, but that’s what I think the US needs (Bill C was also kind of a SOB, which was why he was also OK as a leader imo). Unfortunately, the tyrants who run much of the world would eat Barack’s ‘let’s all get along by talking’ strategy alive, and Hillary’s personality was just too abrasive and divisive, regardless of her perceived strength. If she lacks the personal skills to not create HATE against her in her own country (for often no apparent reason other than her personal interaction style or tone of voice), that can’t be good for foreign relations either. You need better people skills to lead. period.

Posted by: mccain is ok | June 4, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

I was also against the war from the beginning. Does that make me qualified to be president? Of course not. Like Obama, I did not have all the information that Congress had available to them and I did not have the responsibility of making a decision.
Obama disowned his grandmother, his pastor/friend and his church. What makes anyone think he won’t disown the American people if elected?
The DNC wants him as president because they know he will do exactly as he’s told to do. On the other hand, Hillary would stand up and fight for what she believes in and she would fight for the people of this great country…which could, God forbid, expose corruption in the democratic party. After listening to so many of Obama’s speeches and sound bites, I’ve yet to hear that he believes in anything except change. Could someone please, please tell me what he’s going to change? The only thing I’ve noticed is that he changes his mind every time he speaks. He lists all the problems but offers no solutions. If one of my employees used that approach, he or she would be looking for a new job.
Does anyone care that he voted “present” for almost every vote in the state senate? What kind of change is that? I guess maybe it’s pretty hard to be criticized if you don’t take a stand on anything?? For those of you who aren’t familiar with his political history in Illinois, once he was elected he failed to take a stand on anything he supposedly believed in. He has no substance, no back bone. We need more than someone to be “present” in the White House. We need more than a handsome young man with a preacher’s cadence. We need someone with wisdom, experience, and strength of conviction. Even though I disagree with McCain on many issues, he is far less scary than Obama. At least McCain will function from a foundation of principles rather than being tossed about by the self-interest of certain party leaders.
The fact that he could win an election without winning the popular vote is an assault on democracy and it makes this country a mockery to the rest of the world. This is a very sad day for America.

Posted by: sharon | June 4, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

Not heleluyah Martin2. consult your dictionary. Are all anti Obama people stupid?

Posted by: JLJ | June 4, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

I have read several blobs about the Obama/Clinton race for the presidency. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what experience does anyone have to be the president of the united states. Being governor of a state is a far cry from being the most powerful leader in the world. No one has any experience being the president of the united states unless u are running for a second-term. So to me, being elected president is on the job training at best. Also some of the our most beloved presidents have had the same amount of experience as Obama. For example, JFK spent 13 years in public office between the MA House of Reps and US Senate and Abe Lincoln spent 14 years in the US House of Reps before becoming president. Obama has spent 12years in public office between Ill Senate and US Senate. My question to all of the Hillary Clinton supporters is can she stand on her own with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, who by the way only spent 14 years in public office between being attorney general and governor of Arkansas before he became president? And Hillary only spent 8 years in public office being Senator of NY. So the truth is she had the least experience. Being first-lady does not mean you have experience.

Posted by: ShellyNC | June 4, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Each one of you is a Guardian and responsible for those of whom he is in charge. The Ruler is a Guardian and thus responsible for his subjects. A man is the Guardian of his family and is responsible for those under his care. In like manner, each one of you is a guardian and is responsible for what he is entrusted with.
I’m all for Obama Alamak!

Posted by: payfrens | June 4, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

My understanding is that America’s foreign and domestic policy is under siege.The gov wants to paint a different picture of the situation.It would have been either obama or hillary in order to portray this change,and of course the further you seem to be from the current system,then the better.Obama presented all this and more.My question is,will this this wave hold beyond nomination,because if it doesn’t then America and the world is worse off than it is with Bush.I keep my fingers crossed!

Posted by: mbaya | June 4, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Most of those who have decided to vote McCain all cos Clinton lost are not being sincere with Americans.
Take it or leave it.

Posted by: Bode | June 4, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

More Interesting Reading:
Under the Independence Constitution of Kenya, Obama became a Kenyan citizen on December 12, 1963. He has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. On his senate web site, Obama tap dances around his own dual nationality when discussing his father. Obama obviously knows, because his father told him, that he also held/holds Kenyan nationality.
Once again, we find Barry O concealing fascinating information about his identity. There is nothing unusual about dual nationality. Indeed, ancient Roman Law doctrines of jus sanguini and jus soli come into play, because both Kenya and the U. S. recognize dual nationality. Once again, the issue is not “legality.” The issue is the cover-up; Obama’s concealment of his own identity. From us, and most of all from himself.
Obama was also registered in both of the Jakarta schools he attended as a citizen of Indonesia. Does he also enjoy Indonesian citizenship? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: wiser | June 4, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

A lot of people have claimed the superdelegates and Party insiders made this decision. Truth is Hillary had 100 more superdelegates before the first ballot was punched. Check for your self. Obama simply had more momentum early on.

Posted by: NTX | June 4, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

Mariann, you are wondering “why more people don’t come out and say they won’t vote for a BLACK man?” Well, I have the answer for you. It is because not too many people left in the country with a NARROW and UNUPDATED BRAIN. This question of underestimating and trying to humiliate black people is a thing of the past. I mean way past. They have proven what they are capable of. So, you might consider revising your brain. This color thing is OVER and you LOSE. so give up, loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: To Mariann Pepitone | June 4, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

DON’T WORRY EVERYBODY, OBAMA OR CAIN IS NOT GOING TO WIN THE 08 ELECTIONS, BUSH IS GOING TO START A NEW WAR WITH IRAN AND HE IS GOING TO REMAIN IN OFFICE UNTIL THE WAR IS OVER.

Posted by: jc | June 4, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

All of HRC supporters are whinning about Obama being sexist, racist and the media catering to him. My question is if Hilary had won and was called a sexist or racist and had 90% of the white votes would you say all the negatives applied to her. She got the mojority of women. She got the majority of the “Blue Collar White Working Class”, “the uneducated”. She also got the majority of Chatholic, Hispanic’s and elderly women, does that make her racist or descrimnating towards Blacks or men. I am sure you don’t think so. However, did you hear Barak Obama whinning about that? No! You always heard him speak highly of HRC. He always showed her respect, and during the debate he help her save face when put on the spot about her discrepancies. Now, what did HRC show for gratitude? Nothing! She was an ingrate! Instead, she kept bashing, and bashing and bashing until even those who might have supported her decided not to, and I do not blame them.
Some would like to say because they do not support Barak Obama that his supporters consider them a bigot. Well, I say, I don’t believe you reall like HRC as much as some say, but you rather support her than to support a man who happens to be Black. What then does that make you? Go figure!
I do believe that those who supported HRC was more a Black hater than a pro-Clinton.
What happen to what is good for the American people. What HRC and her supporter and the women who supported her did throughout this primary was the same this country has always done to Blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Latino’s, Arabs and others. It was not a Black White thing it was a difference of being White. You all would have acted the same if it was another opponent that wasn’t White and came that close.
The issue is, you want more of the same than to share with anyone that is considered a subondinate to the dominant ruler. Well guess what you the so called “Blue Collar White Working Class” AKA “the uneducated” are a subordinate group incase you did not know that! I am considered that also, and I am Black.

Posted by: Tina | June 4, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

I’ve heard over and over again in this blog about supporting the Democratic party eventhough Hillary didn’t win. Sorry, but I can’t vote for a main that I don’t trust, and don’t believe in. He has so fluently preached “Change” “Change” “Change” but has never substantiated it with how he intends to Change….or even what he intends to change. I will never vote for a person that I don’t believe just to stay Democratic. That would be totally irresponsible of me, and against all my belief. I don’t hate blacks at all. It has nothing to do with race. His past speaks for itself.

Posted by: wiser | June 4, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

Obama is a superb, clinton need self control and positive thinking

Posted by: Mike K'teh | June 4, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

It’s been difficult deciding on who would be the best presidential candidate since I share both Republican and Democratic viewpoints. I am not a full advocate of Hillary. But in choosing between Obama, McCaine, and Clinton… I felt Hillary was the strongest choice and am a bit upset about this loss.
I don’t see much positive “change” with McCain, however I do believe that his military experience is a great strength especially in a time where our country is extremely vulnerable. Sure I like the tax cuts he proposes, but could we honestly stomach someone who would continue Bush’s failed plans? Yes, I believe we must still maintain our presence in Iraq and think it’s foolish that Clinton and Obama stated a time and date to withdraw our troops… but I do believe that perhaps the finances and planning of the Iraq war have been superfluous and mismanaged.
While Obama is a great motivational speaker, he lacks substance, concrete solutions, and his lack of experience is downright scary. I am enamoured by his charisma and out-of-box approach, but should our country, in its vulnerable state, start experimenting a new paradigm of leadership? Obama would’ve made a fine Vice President and eventual President, however our country is just too vulnerable at the moment to have such an inexperienced person as commander in chief. And in all honesty, realistically can we say that ALL of America is ready for an African American president? Many of my colleagues and myself are ready… but after recently re-locating to a very conservative town, I can see that there are far too many right-wing Americans are quietly livid, frightened, and belligerent to the prospect of such change. There are too many racists… and too many people looking to make race an issue. Look at the media’s attention to his church, the emails regarding his muslim background. What would happen if he won this election? How many more “race buttons” will the media press before it deflects his presidency like the Monica Lewinsky trial deflected Bill Clinton’s time? Imagine what would happen during Obama’s presidency if he, for example, had subtle controversial disagreement or agreement with Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton… some small thing that would be blown up in the media, similar to his relations with his former pastor.
How would America React? Violence? Riots? Division? We face a tremendous risk during a time when America is very weak globally and financially. True, he could bring people of all colors together, but a subtle blowout magnified in the media could more easily divide our nation. Judging from the public’s widely divided and angry responses to issues such as illegal immigration and his church controversy…we just aren’t there. Obama surely responded to his church controvesy with grace and tact. For those who listened to his Philadelphia speech, it binded many different people together. But how many people rolled their eyes as they changed the channel while he was speaking? Ignorance is still rampant.
There are many things I don’t agree with about Hillary. But in comparing all three candidates, she seemed the strongest in experience, economical planning, international affair dealings, and leadership.

Posted by: A_Moderate_Perspective | June 4, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

I wonder why American people want to loose there chance of Change this time because of racism. I don’t care what they said about OBAMA, but we need a change, and it’s only the Change we can bank on.
You can not send the same people that spoiled this Nation to Washington and expect change.
We need a new generation president that can understand our need and that need is Change, because if we don’t change, this nation will continue going from bad to worst. USA family need to unite together as one Family. one more thing i want us to keep in mind: if we vote for McCain, War may go on from Iraq to the world, and the more the war, the more you pay tax, the more you loose your chance, the more this nation is going backward. I don’t care if I’m white, we need a Change, and its only the Change we can believe in.
Any democrat who does not vote for Obama, is a SADIST, and you will have your price to pay in 4 to 8 years times.

Posted by: Frank | June 4, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

Jessica, Read what I wrote
Geez, Call me racist or not
I probably am in some sort of way just as Obama and all of his buddies are. I haven’t met a single black person a yet who hasn’t struck up a conversation about White people and jeered fun about us. And being Black or White wasn’t even on my mind, but it was theirs. So, what is my feeling now. I wouldn’t want a Black person in our Nation’s top seat for all of the gold in california ! The very church he belonged to for 20 yrs poked fun at us, as well as racial slurs. So, I got a rise out of you.I’m simply stating people like him and his buddies poking racial slurs about white people might cause us to start feeling a bit like poking it right back to him! See how it feels Jessica! I don’t like him and never have. Hillary has nothing to do with whom I choose and do not choose. I could care a less if you like her, your choice. And to the backstabber dude..Nobody has used the N word but You. You’re the only ones I know that go around and call one another this word.

Posted by: Hillary Fan | June 4, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am

One thing that has failed to be mentioned is the “air” of entitlement that Clinton conveyed. This is only one of the numerous subliminal factors that just turned off a lot of people as the process continued. We all have probably had acquaintances that did nothing particularly or specifically “wrong” but just seemed to rub us the “wrong” way, in a distasteful manner.
Clinton, in the beginning, wasn’t asking humbly for a vote of confidence. She portrayed the arrogance of a forgone conclusion. Until, the tides turned. When her humility first flickered from “surprising losses”, it came off as weakness and manipulation.
As time wore on, Clinton created a scenario which required her to be always more on the defensive. And, Clinton on the defensive often became offensive or condescending (even more so than usual).
She proved how difficult it is to win with such attitudes and behavior, even as an opening favorite.
To the conspiracy theorist regarding the DNC leadership favoring Obama, even if it were true, this would say a lot about the behind the scenes perspectives of those who would be required to work with Clinton as President. This is her personality flaw if she created an atmosphere of non-support from such key players.
For those who cry about Fl or Mi:
This is a failure of those respective states Democratic Leadership. There are consequences to all actions. They KNEW ahead of time.
It is unfair for Obama to honor the DNC position and not campaign in either state (as all were told these states would not count), while removing his name from the Michigan ballot entirely (as all were told that these states would not count), and later be faced with the prospect that all delegates would go to Clinton. How absurd is that?
Clinton did not object to the punitive sanctions until she finally realized that she was at an ever growing disadvantage and needed to scramble for delegates from any source. Where is the integrity in this? She was LUCKY to even get what she got “given” to her in direct contradiction to the original agreement.
And, finally, the DNC cannot bid to run the country again until they can run the party.
By the way, The United States of America is actually a Republic and not a true Democracy.
So, do not complain about the flaws in our “Democracy” as they do not exist.

Posted by: David | June 4, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

To Hillary’s supporters who would like to vote for mcshame instead of OBAMA: SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!I am from another country and you should know the whole world is watching your presidential election closely. You just have shown the great America is not worthy of the world’s respect at all. You should have realized that you are blessed to have OBAMA as a leader because he is a great leader and no one else! Too bad I can’t vote for him because he has one solid vote from me.

Posted by: Diane | June 4, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

I can see there have been many Republicans here saying their Democrats and that they’re voting for John McSame. Any Democrat who actually votes for McSame is most likely to be from the South. A vote for McCain is a vote for more Bush with a bad temper and a bad memory. What a worse off America,vote McSame and reap what you sow.

Posted by: AJ | June 4, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

what kind of idiot considers it a negative that Bill Clinton is her husband? two presidents for the price of one, you irresponsible, ignorant, pathetic lemmings

Posted by: chris | June 4, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

obama is so great, he inspires racism, sexism, ignorant, arrogance and naivete from his “supporters”…….sort of like george w. bush supporters….

Posted by: chris | June 4, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

the reigning argument to support obama? “you’re a racist/sadist/republican/hate America if you don’t support obama”……..what a hopeful and progressive and positive message from obama’s “supporters”….

Posted by: chris | June 4, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

I am supporting Senator Clinton because I know she is the best candidate and is the only candidate who can be the best President and Commander-in-Chief……after November 4th, I will be able to sleep well and look my son in the eyes and know I stood by my principles for his best interest….how about you?

Posted by: chris | June 4, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Obama is all smoke and mirrors to surround his naivety. This is not suppose to be a subjective popularity contest.
Obama, throughout the campaign, either demonstrated his ignorance or skirted objective and definitive statements of position.
The primary case in point is his naive willingness to speak with terrorist nations directly.
McCain will eat him up for this one position alone.
The reality is that this is not a new idea and produced nothing before when past administrations have made valid and sincere attempts at talks. These nations are expert stallers and are uncompromising.
Carter, the Great Democratic Humanitarian, just recently tried and failed dismally, again.
As for the latest church and associate revelations, there is an underlying evidence of affiliation with racism which is showing the horn from under a misplaced halo. 20 years of such church affiliation cannot be just brushed aside for the convenience of a little ol’ thing like the Presidency of the United States.
Give me a break.

Posted by: David | June 4, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

You know those who want to jump ship,jump! This Obama will win without you.
Let’s look at this from another perspective.
1. Hillary has the elderly women
1. Barak has the young
2. Hillary has the women, white blue collar men Hispanics
2. Barak has the majority of Black women,educated white men and Blacks
3. Hillary has the elderly women, white blue collar men and women
3. Barak has the youth, marjority Black women, White educated men, the majority of Blacks and some all the catagories of HRC group and all her top supporters now.
Those who want to jump, go right ahead because when the DEM’s got in before they did not have have the new turn outs from this primary, so therefore it can be won without the handful of bigots. There are honest people in every race and catagory. Besides the Catholics that voted for HRC would have jumped ship on her come GE. You know the Rush L. group that help push her along. Besides, I have a question for the Hispanics and Latinos what did Bill do for you when he was president? The he see to that your votes start counting in the GE or left it as it is? Duh uh! Any of you in the class of the poor. When Bill reform the welfare are you better off? Did he help what he considered the working class,or did he consider the working class then $250,000 income the working class. HRC say she will fight for the working class,but her working class figures are higher than Obama $70,000 and under income. She never said she would help the poor the one’s in poverty. Well guess what at what income do you consider poverty? If you make $20 hour with a family, then you are in poverty. Healthcare is always about family with kids,but what about the single individuals without kids who can’t afford anything. If they lose there job they get no assistance with medical or anything because it’s just them. There are a lot of people out here suffering along because of a lost of income,yet too young to retire and too old to get another job, but can’t get assistance because of no dependents. She does not intend to help those just the working class. She did not talk about helping the middle class until she was losing. She never once thought of herself as an elite, but she’s a millionare speaking about the working class. Come on!!! What do she really know about struggling other than suffering of man issues? She can fill up her tank any time. She always has and will be medically covered. She lives in several different homes while some are losing just one. She just throwed away $11 million and say she knows our pain. Give me a break. Go jump if you are going to jump, and jump quick so we can stop hearing your bickering and let our party heal.

Posted by: Tina | June 4, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

Yes, all this is right but you forgot a very important factor: HER CHARACTER, obnubilated by power, eager to get to the WH at any price, lying and cheating, asking to change the rules (Florida and Michigan) ready to destroy the party if necessary. As a long-life white democrat (52) I just hated the way she tried to make her way – mercylessly crushing and bashing whatever stood on her path. OBAMA is s much more decent person. Therefore, my vote, which should normally have gone for her, went for OBAMA.

Posted by: Denis van Dam | June 4, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Simply the DNC was hellbent on pushing Obama through, because the media lovefest. Also Pelosi wants to be the only #1 woman in DC. So much that they STOLE HRC votes from her.
I would never vote for the weaklink, lying, cheating, manipulative Obama. But since the DNC gave him her votes I WILL BE VOTING FOR MCCAIN in Nov.
The DNC defied the will of the Democratic people.

Posted by: Andy in PA | June 4, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am

First and Foremost, we are the United States of America which should exceed mere party loyalty.
One should not vote for a party member purely due to personal party affiliation.
One should objectively evaluate all candidates and vote, in good conscience, for the good of the country.
No candidate, past, present, or future, is ideal and perfect in every way (in any party).
But, we can only vote for one.
And, we should all respect the rights of others to vote for whomever they choose:
God help us!
If one “defects” from the historically preferred party, this speaks volumes and is certainly more courageous than wasting a vote just to vote with the herd mentality as a blinded party loyalist.
Where is the love for your fellow countryman and citizen? We are in a truly sad state if it is dependent solely on party loyalties.
And, with all of the vote breakdowns of the democratic primaries, none of it can be directly correlated with the impending General Election. It is counterproductive and incorrect to say that the loss of any vote is irrelevant in light of what we just witnessed with the democratic primaries.
We need to heal as a nation, not just within our respective parties.

Posted by: David | June 4, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

wiser,throughout the debates there was plenty of talk about specific changes whenever he could get around the interruptions and personal attacks.iwas originally for clinton but the more she tried to push qualifications that were not her strong point,the more igot to hear obama’s message.wiser is a strong name to live up to:receive info with an open mind and give it with the same

Posted by: BoH | June 4, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am

Damn, isn’t sad that Democrats will go vote for McCain cause Hillary hasn’t won?
With 8 yrs of lies, 8 yrs of BS and a war where they shouldn’t even be there, all the lives lost, and now threatening Iran… Is that what you Hillary groupies really want?
What experiences she really got??? Beside been a President’s wife… Oh I forgot…ya she’s good at dodging sniper fire. Alright, she lived in the White House but that all she did. Do you really believe she has more foreign policies experiences than Obama?? I don’t think so. She lied about things just to get her way.. If she was so popular, how come she needed to inject money for her campaign of her own???
As for her on the ticket…hell no!!! She just going to drag her husband there and make sure Obama looks incompetent as President then say “I told you so” !!
The way she let on…it’s like she wishes that Obama loses in November so she can try again in 2012. She will make her voters understand that point.
Cause she’s more electable??? Oh really….She bitched and whined about 2 states that got penalized for early voting and she EVEN signed the paper saying those she wouldn’t count them votes…well she was ahead at the time, you see…but then she had to cheat, to change the rules in her favor as she screwed up badly and got behind!!!
Is that the kind of President you want? Or even a VP? No, I’d say!!! She’s a cheat, crybaby when things not going her way… She’s the cause of Democratic voters going to switch to the other side, the war side, the no jobs side, the 4 more years of struggling to have a decent life side!!
I’m relieved that I’m Canadian, but sadden that Obama MIGHT lose because of her, she will destroy or attempt to destroy any chances he has to win in Nov.
So neighbors of the South, I HOPE he makes it in Nov. I’ll pray that you ,all walk of life Americans, do the right thing and have a President of CHANGES.
Sincerely yours,
Tom Cody

Posted by: Tom Cody | June 4, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

Hillary lost because she and her high-paid advisors ran one of the worst campaigns in history. I mean, HOW on earth can you lose a 30 point lead, spend $15,000 for doughnuts, and think that California was a winner take all state, and I didn’t mention that Hillary’s an extremely polarizing and decisive figure as well. The only person in that family with class and dignity seems to be Chelsea. Thank GOD the Clinton’s are on their way OUT!

Posted by: Tammi_J | June 4, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

OK, the Playoffs are over. Let’s reset the clocks and move on to the Finals. We need a debate schedule.
Note to ABC News: If you get another chance at hosting a debate, I hope you learned your lesson and will be more professional this time.

Posted by: jrenkx | June 4, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

I have spent the last three hours reading every single post on this site. I am in tears. It doesn’t matter who I am supporting. What matters is that I am a citizen of this country who feels ashamed to be so if this is how Americans really still feel about one another. Insults, racism, uneducated comments, hate, anger… I won’t go on, you are all reading it and/or writing it so you know of what I speak. I think that if any of the candidates you spoke of, past or present, were to read the posts on this site they would be truly disheartened. Some of you speak thinking you are supporting your candidate when in truth they would cringe at your words. I thank those of you who at least tried to speak in a way that provided some optimism, some hint at a desire for unity, a hope that this nation can still be healed. But reading the words here make me feel as though we are moving further and further away from this possibility. I am a white/black/biracial/woman/child loving/baby loving/ trying to be green/trying to carry my weight/trying to learn/trying to educate/ trying to be strong/humble/loving/beauty appreciating/occasionally angry/more often happy/ but increasingly concerned AMERICAN. Please can we try to remove the lenses of hate from our eyes, the fountains of filth from our mouths, and try to make this country and this world a BETTER place by contributing in a positive manner.
I would challenge most of you to copy the words that you wrote and paste them into an email to someone who is directly linked to the candidate of your choice, someone who really understands their views. In those emails, ask your candidate through their representative , how they feel about your words. I would imagine that many of those emails would be returned to with responses asking you not to continue along the direction you have chosen. By pointing fingers, name calling, and making false statements (due to lack of knowledge or just out of anger) we are doing to each other what our worst enemies would have us do–Killing ourselves slowly with a deadly virus called hate.
I know who I want to win in 2008, but regardless of who does, this country and it’s citizens need to get it together and find a path toward reconciliation.

Posted by: InTears | June 4, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

David,
Thank you!

Posted by: InTears | June 4, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

With the ways things are going now, i hope the America that i see on TVs and read will not become like Zimbabwe that i know in Africa. I am an African and still find it difficult that party supporters decided to switch to another party all cos Obama has won the presidential ticket to contest for the No. 1 man in the USA.
Could it be cos he is black or cos of his background or his middle name or what???
i used to think Americans are UNITED like they say, but clear to me now that all is propaganda to deceive the world that you guys are united. UNITED-my foot. Stop fooling us, AMERICA, the world is watching and every decision you take will yield a result.-GOOD or BAD.
United States of America indeed.

Posted by: Bode | June 4, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

“It aint over till the woman in the pants suite says its over”
HILLARY CLINTON~

Posted by: Lisa Brown | June 4, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

To A_Moderate_Perspective. You know I do not agree with you about Hillary, but I must say I can truly admire your assessment and accept your reason for your belief in Hillary. I do not like her personnally, but I respect how you reached your decison. If everybody was like that it would be no problem in accepting defeat.
I am hoping for Obama because I weighed the same before choosing. I was for Hillary at first then I listen to Obama. I agreeded with Obama. After seeing Hillary beginning to lose to Obama and saw the real her come out (she did not fine her voice she decided to show herself) I disliked her tactic’a and feared for our country.
However, I would have considered also a Republican also had it been someone other than someone possing as a conservative that is just an elitist. McCain to me is another Bush. They were hand in hand a lot until they decided he should play politics and distance himself from Bush, but I am not fool that easily.
I am more conservative than I am libral, but the right republicn must get in for me to vote for. That is the values of a conservative and not oil and war.

Posted by: Tina | June 4, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

It beggars belief how delegates accept, forgive and endorse racist muslim junior senator Barack Hussein Obama who hasn’t even fulfilled his senatorial duties to those who got him there. Nor has he proven his patiotism in any shape or form. On the contrary, he said that he will side with the muslims if he had to chose… and he will meet our ememies without any pre-conditions.
Thankfully the people’s chance will come in November…. and they will know what is best for their country. And it won’t be Barack Hussein Obama.
PS: I believe that anyone aspiring to the white house should be “independently” tested for illegal drug use. It will be unsafe to have a junky cocaine addict near the nuke button.

Posted by: Retrovvision | June 4, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

It beggars belief how delegates accept, forgive and endorse racist muslim junior senator Barack Hussein Obama who hasn’t even fulfilled his senatorial duties to those who got him there. Nor has he proven his patiotism in any shape or form. On the contrary, he said that he will side with the muslims if he had to chose… and he will meet our ememies without any pre-conditions.
Thankfully the people’s chance will come in November…. and they will know what is best for their country. And it won’t be Barack Hussein Obama.
PS: I believe that anyone aspiring to the white house should be “independently” tested for illegal drug use. It will be unsafe to have a junky cocaine addict near the nuke button.

Posted by: Retrovvision | June 4, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

Hillary must not ever accept a VP position. She is the STRONGEST candidate and must not be sub-sevient to a WEAKER candidate. This is what the “glass ceiling” is about. Competent women serving incompetent men. The boys closed ranks and prefer to see a Muslim born inexperienced junior senator with dodgy affiliatons as president – than let a very competent and smart woman be president. But… The peole’s voice cannot be bought. Hillary Clinton has won all the key states that Dems need to win this election, and she has received most of the popular vote. Barack got most delegates… But delegates can be bought, especially when Barak is pushed on by corporations and billionaires like Warren Buffet. These lot are not for the people. They are for themselves. Each delegate has one vote – (except some has 2!!! why is that?) but delegtes don’t have the votes of the people, who in turn have 1 vote each. And they won’t be voting for Barck Hussein Obama…. Even if he appoints Clinton as VP. The people love their country too much for taking on such a gamble.
GO HILLARY TO THE CONVENSION!!!
CLINTON or McCAINE… never Obama.

Posted by: Retrovvision | June 4, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am

Retrovvision,
Your comments are actually going to result in more Obama converts. Few Democrats or even fewer Americans for that matter wants to be associated with your views.

Posted by: jrenkx | June 4, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

LOL at you dumba$$ Obama supporters. You will have a very rude awakening come November. I find it very strange that Obama wins the nomination yet he doesn’t win a single large state or a single swing state. Then he loses 2 of the last 3 primaries. He goes into the nomination like a wounded duck. He’s loses the popular vote as well. Wow what a strong candidate.

Posted by: MR | June 4, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

The British playwright William Congreve said, “Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.”

Posted by: JoeC | June 4, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am

Hey retro you forgot to mention how the media pushed Obama. Never in the history of this country did I see such a blatant bias against a certain candidate (Hillary). They would trash her 24/7 with no end in sight and they still failed because Hillary ends up winning the popular vote. How ironic is that?

Posted by: MR | June 4, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am

dude, you get paid to spout this garbage?
its all about the iraq, period.

Posted by: scott | June 4, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am

Obama is a great speaker and he ran a competent campaign. But he won because he mobilized the left, got full support of the democratic party establishment (open or stealth) and the mainstream media. He also deflected any criticism of his thin resume or his questionable ties or his gaffes as “distractions” and successfully argued that people focus on issues (In fairness, all he offered on issues is eloquent speeches). He took populist positions (end war now; food to the hungry; healthcare to the uninsured; anti-trade promises; pro-union promises; scholarships to the students; homes to the homeless; jobs to the unemployed; welfare to those who don’t want to be employed; etc. etc. etc.). That coupled with chants of “we want change” and “Yes we can”. Its amazing HRC lasted so long. This guy should be considered frontrunner to be the President (although if you could tell from this message, I won’t vote for him). I only hope that he turns out not to be as populist and ultraliberal as he seems now, when he actually becomes the President…

Posted by: Unashamed_Independent | June 4, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

“In fairness, all he offered on issues is eloquent speeches.”
Obama once explained in an interview that he deliberately changed his campaigning style early in the campaign because there were complaints that he was coming across as too wonkish. He was losing the audience by being too long on details. That was one of the complaints against Gore and Kerry. Obama had to adjust to a more short-winded mode of speaking.
If you want to see the substance of the issues he eloquently speaks about, visit his website and select the Issues link.

Posted by: jrenkx | June 4, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am

He forgot about her loss of credibility when she was caught lying – specifically, non-existent sniper fire in Bosnia, and the resulting news coverage of the actual event in the archives. We all knew that the Clintons lie through their teeth, but they are usually much better at covering it up, or “reinterpretting” key words, like “the” and “I”. She blew it BIG TIME.

Posted by: Namako OH3 | June 4, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

no matter who wins,the country is going to slide into a depression,chaos and social disorder.we are like a sailboat without anyone at the helm.soaring gas prices will bring us to our knees.obama and his democrates will tax us into the poor house with their socalist programs.no matter who wins the flood gates will be open to the 3rd world.people will not stand in bread lines like in the 30′s.we are more interested in band aides instead of a cure.drink the cool ade and buy a scooter,we are going to be just another 3rd world garbage heap.

Posted by: bob | June 4, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Clinton just barely lost because the good ole boys (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, etc.) didn’t want her and began propping Obama up 4 years ago when they made him the keynote speaker at the democratic convention. Whoever Kennedy wants usually gets the nomination. The Kennedy machine then got Obama savvy political opeatives and lots of money and the rest is history. I remember 4 years ago when everyone thought Howard Dean was going to win everything, but then in Iowa Kennedy endorses Kerry and out of nowhere Kerry ended up the nominee. So the Kennedy machine is very powerful. However, so far, whoever Kennedy has endorsed over the years have lost.

Posted by: Doreen | June 4, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Ken Blackwell – Columnist for the New York Sun
It’s an amazing time to be alive in America . We’re in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front-running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.
We won’t truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won’t arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.
The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He’s not. He’s the next George McGovern. And it’s time people learned the facts.
Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.
Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he’s not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America . But let’s look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial ‘beauty.’
Start with national security, since the president’s most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists – something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.
Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on ‘the rich.’ How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.
Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, ‘All praise and glory to God!’ but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have ‘hijacked’ – hijacked – Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois , he refused to vote against a statewide ban – ban – on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood , and San Francis c o values, not Middle America values.
The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don’t start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of ‘bringing America together’ means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.
But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and – yes – they’re talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama’s radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.
It’s time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let’s first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.
Subject: Kind of scary, wouldn’t you think Remember–God is good, and is in time, on time every time
According to The Book of Revelations
the anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA??
I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet…do it! If you think I am crazy,. I’m sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the ‘unknown’ candidate.

Posted by: Gut-Ding You | June 4, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am

In the end Hillary lost because of poor campaign strategy. She did not see Obama coming, not even after Iowa. She and her team expected it to be all over on Feb 5th!
They ignored the caucus states. That’s where Obama had a better political machine.
Yes, he is a sensation, a great orator.
But that in itself does not win elections.
His message of change was timely. His core team was tightly-knit. Cannot think of a single time when he had to let go a member of his core team.
We cannot forget that Hillary came close, real close to winning. She is a fighter and as Obama said last night, her fighting spirit made him a better campaigner. He is hardened and ready for the Republicans and their slimy tactics.
Pick Gore as your VP Mr.Obama and you will have all the democrats you need to win come November!

Posted by: Sam | June 4, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

This tune dedicated to the Bill & Hillary Campaign Legacy.
So long sad times, go long bad times….we are rid of you at last……cause…..Happy days are here again!

Posted by: kiotikid | June 4, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

They are starting to come out of the woodworks.

Posted by: JoeC | June 4, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Give credit to whom credit is due. Obama is an exceptional candidate. Just think about setting up political apparatus in less six months and out performed the Clintons’. He is the only candidate without financial problem in 2008 US primary. If any body think it’s an easy job to do so let him or her run for the smallest post in his/her community. I’m thrilled by his achievement.

Posted by: Jeff | June 4, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Obama won because of the black vote. He was able to get the lead he has when he won VA, MD, and DC with 51% to 60% of the democratic voting block being black at 88% to 92%.
He maintained his lead through the southern states. The rules that Jackson implemented after 1988 is the reason Obama has won the election.
Yes this McGovern, Dukakis candidate can win a Democratic nomination process with these proportional rules because eggheads, youth and specifically black people voted because they liked him, not that he is qualified.
It won’t last long, get ready for your next president McCain.

Posted by: knowledgeforreal | June 4, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Jozy wrote yesterday evening: this guys opinion stinks – and whatelse – he played for both teams (repub and demo)
go figure some loser would write this garbage” Gosh, could the fact that “he played for both teams” be considered UNBIASED?
What a maroon.

Posted by: BizBag | June 4, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

Protracted political campaigns reveal something very fundamental about the kind of leadership a candidate can provide, much like how we judge a military general. Hillary would have been much helped by schooling herself in the “Art of War” by Sun Tsu. She did everything wrong while Barack did everything right – a classic example of how “small/weak” can defeat “big/strong”.
Hillary lost the primary in much the same fashion as where President Bush has taken this country to in the last 7 1/2 years.

Posted by: Gene | June 4, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Now what? Over 17 million voters voted for Clinton, over 17 million voters voted for Obama. Does this mean one candidate has won the mandate of democratic voters?
The question now becomes can the party now combine these voters into one vote. Obama cannot win with just his supporters and any realist knows this. Clinton and Obama will now have to talk about how to win over the support of Clinton’s supporters. This is politics and behind closed doors the negotiating will begin.
The real difference between these candidates is one has won the endorsement of the far left, while the other has won the moderates. These are real differences for the common voter and Obama will have to find a way to appeal to the moderate side before he can expect to win over those constituents.

Posted by: '68 VNvet | June 4, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Umm… Gut-Ding You… that book you refer to is NOT the “Book of Revelations.” There’s no S in that title, my friend. People who throw this stuff around tend not to notice little details like that… or like the fact that the book of Revelation was written BEFORE THE RELIGION OF ISLAM WAS CREATED and therefore never mentioned the Antichrist being Muslim. What you’re doing is called MAKING GARBAGE UP. I urge YOU to stop posting nonsense and actually open and read a real book.

Posted by: Not Falling for it | June 4, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

anyone remember the story of the ten brides in the bible? . the story of hillary clinton can be liken to the 5 unprepared brides. she was only looking at the short term while obama is looking at the long term. clinton only prepared for 2 months of primaries while obama prepared for the wosrst case scenario. uhm!!!!. what a great lesson to learn from this election.

Posted by: bukky | June 4, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

Some of you are actually opposed to the Iraq war? Try & ride that horse to victory in November.
They stole the vote. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Barak ‘Lil Neville Chamberlain’ Obama
Grow up people. These are professional politicians. They don’t care about you.

Posted by: Mark | June 4, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

The Clintons —– BOTH of them —- are, metaphorically, standing on the sea-shore trying to hold back the tide. HER “campaign” is still going this Wednesday morning. This pushiness for VP [whether she wants it or not] is despicable. He should reject this nonsense out of hand.
That is what happens when one has no class and is self-absorbed with an attitudinal orientation of entitlement.

Posted by: POLpursun | June 4, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

As a life long reside of the state of New York, I found Hillary to be insulting to one’s intelligence. She had no official foreign policy experience even though she claimed she did. As a U.S. Senator, she has done nothing for the state of New York and is really a figurehead. She’s only the Senator from New York state because the Democratic Party orchestrated her election. Hillary got caught in a lie by CBS news regarding being shot at the airport in Bosnia when she was the first lady. She also underestimated Barack Obama’s determination and drive all the time. She overspent on her campaign and she had twice as much campaign funds then any other candidate. She got some serious bad advice from her advisers. She did not know how to cut her losses and take the graceful way out. Hillary was just not very believable. I found her to be condesending at times and she really insulted everyone’s intelligence with her arrogant attitude. And of the two Clintons, her husband really is the most qualified to be President. The wrong Clinton ran for the nomination.

Posted by: Kevin | June 4, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Matthew– you forgot about “it’s the war, Stupid!” The Clintons began losing this race back in October of 2002!

Posted by: Goldiemae | June 4, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

No sexism here is there?? So a strong competent woman is a DAD????

Posted by: deja vu 08 | June 4, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

You say it had little to do with her gender? Yet you say the people were looking for someone soft and mothering and she gave them someone tough. As a woman, if she had appeared “soft” it would have been taken as a sign of weakness: she had to show her strength to be taken seriously. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t.
We’ll see how a soft and mothering approach works in dealing with Iran, North Korea, and others. I believe we’ll find we need someone tough, like Hillary. The Democratic Party elite have shot the party in the foot once again.

Posted by: Ruth Ann | June 4, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

All I know is that I’d vote for Hillary or Obama, whoever won. I will NOT vote for McCain due to his flip-flopping, Bush-like mentalilty and age. I’m very happy that the Dems had a heck of a campaign and we need to make sure we stick together – vote Democrat this November, please.

Posted by: Toni | June 4, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Give Obama the respect! The truth is he played a better game! He had a plan, for the lonterm. She had a short-term game. It like have Jordan, S.O’Neil, Coby Bryant on won team, my 17 year old bother, my mother, and myself on the other. If Jordan, Byrant, and O’Neal start fighting about how is the best…my brother, my mom, and I know we sucks…will will just start walking to the basket and try to shot, some drop and other don’t. By they are still fighting and we are still taking turns shooting. Hillary spent a lot of time about “her” she is the best. And Obama was working the grassroots, taking it one state at a time…HE won!

Posted by: Kisia | June 4, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

The quantity of misinformation in this comment page is huge. I happen to support Obama–though I’d initially been a Clinton supporter throughout the primaries. I’ll be following this page and shutting down further falsehoods.
The one thing that is true is that Obama has far too much in common with Dukakis. It’s patently obvious he’s going to take her as his VP, but will be feeling out the political climate first.
When I see former Clinton supporters saying they’ll vote McCain, it immediately speaks to me about their interest in liberal policy. It’s obvious that their interest in a candidate supercedes their interest in policy.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

Millions of Americans will be going to work today and discuss why this campaign is not over. What is the purpose for dragging it out?
Instead of this anonymous ranting on the blogs, we need to clear the air and have frank conversations with our friends, families, and coworkers to get to the root of all this hate and divisiveness. I have never had anyone yet express direct to me any of the extreme views I am reading here.
Let’s come out of the closet. We are no longer talking with each other, we are talking at each other. This is ridiculous.

Posted by: jrenkx | June 4, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

HILLARY IS THE BEST PERSON TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SHE IS A WOMAN, SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING, SHE IS FOR EACH PERSON IN AMERICA, SHE IS WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GO THAT EXTRA MILE TO HELP EACH PERSON IN AMERICA, WHAT MORE DO WE NEED.
OBAMA IS NOT THE BEST PERSON TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA. HE IS A LIER. HE IS BLACK, HE DOES NOT KNOW THE FIRST STEP TO TAKING CHARGE OF THE USA. HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE AMERICAN FLAG. HE DOES NOT WANT TO HURT HIS COUNTRY’S FEELING TO REPRESENT OUR FLAG. HE DOES NOT SPEAK THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BECAUSE IT HAS GOD IN IT. HE DOES NOT EVEN BELIEVE IN THE LORD ABOVE. HE WILL NOT EVEN CROSS HIS HEART WHEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLIEGIANCE IS BEING SPOKE NOR WILL HE SAY IT ALONG WITH THE USA.
WHAT TYPE OF PERSON ARE YOU GUYS VOTING FOR TO REPRESENT THE USA?? WE DONT NEED A PERSON LIKE THIS TO REPRESENT OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING FOR OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING EVERYBODY IN OUR COUNTRY INTO.
COLOR DOES HAS AN ISSUE IN THIS MATTER OF VOTING FOR THE RIGHT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE. LISTEN TO THE NEWS, RADIO’S, INTERNET BLOGS, INTERNET VIDEOS, AND WHATEVER ELSE SPEAKS/SHOWS TO US HOW AND WHAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALL ABOUT. I DONT HAVE TO POST IT ON HERE EVERYBODY KNOWS FROM HEARING AND SEEING IT ON THE NEWS EACH AND EVERY DAY AND NIGHT, WETHER IT BE THE NEWS THEY ARE EXPERIENCING THE BLACK CULTURE PERSONALLY THERESELVES. WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR OUR COUNTRY AND VOTE FOR THE WHITE. WE MIGHT OF BROUGHT THEM THINGS OVER HERE TO OUR COUNTRY (WHICH WAS THE WORST MISTAKE THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE DID IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES AND WE ARE SERIOUSLY REGRETTING IT NOW) BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

Posted by: HILLARY YOU GO GIRL | June 4, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

HILLARY YOU GO GIRL HAS A POINT TO WHAT SHE HAS COMMENTED ON.
IF WE DONT SEE IT ON THE TELEVISION, THERE ARE WHITE PEOPLE OF THE USA THAT IS BEING BEAT ON, ADULTS AND CHILDREN BEING RAPED, BURGLARY’S, ROBBERIES, MUGGINGS, PURSE SNATCHINGS, KILLINGS, THEY KILL THEIR OWN KIND, DRUG SMUGGLING, DRUG DEALINGS, THE BLACKS ARE DOING THIS ALL THERESELVES, IF ANYTHING THEY STARTED IT AND THEN THEY GOT THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT HANG WITH THE BLACKS INVOLVED IN THE ABOVE MENTIONED STUFF. IF THE BLACKS DIDNT BRING IT THE WHITES WOULD NEVER OF INCLUDED THEIRSELVES IN IT. THE WHITES WERE SHOWN THIS ILL MANNERED BEHAVIOR BY THE BLACKS. WE DONT NEED TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS, WE THE WHITE NEED TO LEAD NOT FOLLOW. WE DONT NEED TO FOLLOW FROM A BLACK PRESIDENT REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY. ALSO, THE BLACK PERSON IS WHAT BROUGHT AIDS TO OUR COUNTRY, A BLACK MAN WENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO AFRICA AND HAD SEX WITH A AIDS INFECTED MONKEY AND BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE USA AND HAD UNPROTECTED SEX WITH A BUNCH OF FEMALE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT IS HOW AIDS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT TO OUR COUNTRY. THEY ARE SICK, DISGUSTING, DISCRIMINATING INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO GO AWAY, FAR, FAR, FAR, AWAY.
NEED I SAY MORE.

Posted by: NO BLACKS | June 4, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Hillary Clinton voted for the War in Iraq. She has refused to apologize for this collosal mistake.
I personally worked to get Obama nominated instead of her for this reason alone.
I know many like minded individuals in the Democratic Party.
Hillary lost because of her support for the Iraq War. Period, End of Story.

Posted by: ebinnyc | June 4, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

WHY SHOULD THE USA VOTE A BLACK PERSON FOR PRESIDENT TO BEGIN WITH. WE NEVER HAD ONE IN THERE YET. SO LETS SEE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE WORTHLESS AND MEANINGLESS. THEY WILL DO NOTHING FOR OUR COUNTRY EXCEPT BRING MORE INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE GOVERNMENT AND EVERYTHING. WE DONT NEED THEM IN THERE. THERE IS ENOUGH THAT THEY ARE RUINING NOW IN THIS WORLD. THE WHITE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN TO SHREADS, IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS THE WHITE POPULATION IS GOING TO BE NOTHING. BECAUSE THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD BY THEN ARE GOING TO BE MIX BREEDS. PATHETIC ISNT IT. AND GUESS WHAT THE WHITE MAN WONT STAND UP TO THEM, BECAUSE THE BLACK MAN YELLS RACISM. BUT IT IS OKAY FOR THE BLACK TO DO ALL THIS SH*T TO THE WHITE AND NOTHING IS SUPPOSE TO BE SAID. WANNA KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THE BLACK WILL CALL IT RACISM. IF ANYONE IS RACIST IT IS THE BLACKS, NOT THE WHITES. WE JUST KNOW HOW AND WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. AND THAT IS NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, ASSAULT, DRUGS, AND THEY ARE WORTHLESS HUMAN BEINGS. NOTHING GOOD TO BRING TO THIS WORLD AT ALL. THE AFICANS OVER IN AFRICE DONT CONSIDER THE BLACKS OVER HERE IN THE USA AFRICAN AMERICANS, THE AFRICANS CALL THE BLACKS OVER HERE N*GGERS. THAT IS WHAT THE ARIFICANS CONSIDER THEM. THE AFRICANS DONT EVEN LIKE THE BLACKS OVER HERE AT ALL BECAUSE OF HOW AND WHAT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT. SO WHY VOTE FOR A BLACK PERSON TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.

Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 4, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

GOSH, A WHITE PERSON HAS STOOD UP AND SPOKE THEIR MIND. KEEP IT UP, THOSE BLACKS DONT LIKE OUR COUNTRY THE USA, I HEAR IT ON THE RADIO ALL THE TIME BEFORE OBAMA BECAME ELECTED FOR THE DEMOCRACTIC PARTY. IT IS SICKNING. THEY JUST NEED TO LEAVE THEN SINCE THEY DONT LIKE OUR COUNTRY THE USA.
TO ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE, STAND UP AND SPEAK YOUR MIND.
IT SEEMS LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT WONT STAND UP TO THEM. BECAUSE THEY WILL YELL RACISM.
THE BLACKS ARE NOTHING BUT RACISTS. THEY NEED TO JUST GET UP AND LEAVE AND GO ELSEWHERE. THATS HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT AND A LOT OF OTHERS DO TOO BUT TOO SCARED TO STATE IT.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 4, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

To the single, extremely racist user posting blatant falsehoods (“Obama does not say the pledge because it has God in it”) and the numerous attempts at grouping minority crime with all black people, I encourage you to get the hell off of this blog.
You’re not even trying to hide the fact that you’re making new names to post additional false information and racist rants. Seriously, please stop. That’s just wrong.
Jrenkx, I certainly agree with you. Honest discourse is what we need, and I believe it is what we will have in the next few months. Safe to say that some people aren’t too interested in listening, but they never were.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

John McCain needs to thanks Obama’s supporters for receiving a BIG chunk of votes from Hillary’s fans!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Mr. Dowd could have added to the list Senator Clinton’s constantly changing message and temperament. After she started to fall behind she seemed to be adopting new positions to suit the moment. The changes we saw over the months were unsettling and the personality we saw last night was very disturbing.
Maybe some professional should review her taped appearances over the past 8 months. I would expect to see more consistency from a presidential candidate.

Posted by: JoeC | June 4, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

The biased media and pundits from News network are big issues in this election. Hillary has received unfairly and relentlessly attacks from Obama’ people and the biased media sine day one. Pundits from News Network like CNN, MSMBC have counted her out and beaten her to death for any remarks she made!
I just love it! Hillary did not concede last night! Hillary’s supporters have bombarded her website asking her to run as Independent and donating money as well! Democrat party will be torn apart if she makes this move and Mr. hope and change will have NO HOPE in November!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Hillary has the best qualifications!!

Posted by: joe | June 4, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

To Hillary Supporters:
I understand that this is a trying and painful time. I would feel much like you do if Barack had lost – but you have to put those hurt feelings aside for the good of the country! Voting for McCain is cutting off the Party’s nose to spite its face.

Posted by: Mike | June 4, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

To Hillary Supporters:
I understand that this is a trying and painful time. I would feel much like you do if Barack had lost – but you have to put those hurt feelings aside for the good of the country! Voting for McCain is cutting off the Party’s nose to spite its face.

Posted by: Mike | June 4, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

To teach a lesson to the biased media including MSNBC and the the DNC leaders who have deceived her, she should run as an Independent candidate, rather than VP. Good Luck Hillary!

Posted by: Mohan | June 4, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Lol. I as a black man am proud of Obama and this Country. When I see comments like those posted by White power, and goonies. I’m not shocked or appalled. Rather I’m amused…..Oh yea…..AND I LOVE IT!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: The Oracle | June 4, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Hey Jason:
Freedom of speech baby, you can kiss my ass and get the hell off of this blog yourself, LOSER.
I can speak my mind whenever and however I want, that, you can not take away from me.
So I speak falsely of Obama, huh??
WHATEVER, I speak of the facts baby.
You and everyone else will see what this Country is going to go down to when he becomes the president. Just sit back and watch.
It will definately go to SHREDS.

Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 4, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Hillary ran a good race, but she lost fair and square. Both candidates encountered racism, and sexism respectively. But, they both regardless of this hard fought campaign would advance the same programs and policies. Anybody telling themselves differently are lying to themselves. Now is the time to unify and take this Country wear it needs to go. Lol.
Don’t Hate. Appreciate. Obama ’08.

Posted by: The Oracle | June 4, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

I am a democrat. I will switch to Independent and will do everything I can to prevent Obama from the WhiteHouse!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Kind of scary, wouldn’t you think Remember–God is good, and is in time, on time every time
According to The Book of Revelations
the anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA??
I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet…do it! If you think I am crazy,. I’m sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the ‘unknown’ candidate.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 4, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

WHITE POWER,
You are right. If we don’t vote for Obama they call us racists. What about 90% of Blacks voted for Obmama? do you think they vote for issues or vote for their race???? Americans are not stupid!It’s easy to answer this kind of question!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Hillary supporters,
Please go to Hillary website or write letter requesting her to run as an Independent candidate. She has nothing to lose! Why Hillary and her supporters have to stay with a party that can no longer be trusted! Let them go to hell with their own stupidity!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Boy, the racist are going CRAZY on here. At least, that means that all of the right wing talk radio hosts can’t use the “America is not racist” arguement anymore.

Posted by: Rita | June 4, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

All of you Democrats voting for McCain I hope you don’t have any sons, I hope you can live with yourself when your Son is shipped off to Iraq to never return. I hope it’s worth it to you…
To all who want to keep promoting this fallacy that the super delegates chose the nominee, neither candidate had enough delegates to win, so if the super delegates had choses Hillary what would you be saying then, you would be celebrating your victory…Secondly Hillary only wins the popular vote by including Michigan and as we all know Obama was not on the ballot, oh yeah and discounting Caucus states but those states don’t count, oh yeah and Obama won more states but that doesn’t count either right because big states are more important than small ones, exactly what the Electoral College was put in place to avoid…Obama won fair and squate accept it and move on, you will regret putting McCain in office you better realize that now…Democrats unite!

Posted by: nicky | June 4, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Thanks all the same, my racist friend, but I will stick around. You are not speaking of facts. You are making things up, and I am here to call people like you on them. I already have called you on it. Do you deny that it is a lie that Obama “will not speak the pledge” ? Feel free to post more lies, just know that each will be exposed and no one will believe you when they are.
To Mohan: Obviously you are aware that she would lose an independent campaign. NY only elects democratic senators. And running such a campaign would cost her membership in the democratic party. Do you realize that you are advocating her essentially ending her political career?
To Texan: Suppose Clinton became Obama’s VP. Would you still vote against them? Are you more pro-Clinton, or more anti-Obama? And why?

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Dear Mr Dowd and those who supported Hilary. Senator Clinton lost the nomination fight primarily because of the Iraq War. For those who will be voting in November, remember it is a life and death decision. I am pretty certain that Senator McCain means we will have at least four more years of the following, that we will be losing more good men and women like SGT Dagget and breaking their parents hearts:
http://www.pictopia.com/perl/gal?process=gallery&gallery_id=4528&provider_id=25&ptp_photo_id=xt-mt-25-201965
Publication Date: 2008-06-03 – Arlington National Cemetery, Virginia Jack Daggett leans on the casket of his son Sgt. John K. Daggett, 21, of Phoenix, Ariz., following the funeral service at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Virginia, on Monday, June 2, 2008. Daggett, served in the 1st Battalion, 14th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii, died May 15 in Halifax, Canada, of wounds suffered May 1 in Baghdad, Iraq, when a rocket-propelled grenade struck his vehicle.

Posted by: rickstersherpa | June 4, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

And to Texas, I further would point out that Clinton held firmly 60% of the black vote before her husband made a series of incendiary comments during the battle for the South Carolina primary. She polled this number around the nation consistently.
Obama may have had the young black vote just as Clinton had the female vote of all ages and races, but at that time nobody considered the system racist OR sexist.
Then Bill Clinton said what he did, and polls of blacks consistently showed their opposition to his comments.
I have always deeply respected Senator Clinton. I’d love for her to be on the ticket as VP. I expect she will. I’m sure most of you realize it too. Seriously ask yourself what you will do in such a situation.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

I know how you lofty political pundits absolutely hate thinking about mere issues when there are personality differences and campaign strategies to dissect and analyze, but:
IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ

Posted by: W. Kiernan | June 4, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Whoo!!! Get ‘em Jason. Hey Texan, you know what I say to that?? Clinton won the presidency in 92 with 86% of the black vote, 68% of the latino vote, and 39% of the white vote. You had no problem with us voting en masse for a white candidate did you?? We african Americans ALWAYS vote en masse. Ooops, thats except for black candidates. I seem to recall Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson never garnering this much of the black vote. Any other stupid comments you want me to shoot down??

Posted by: The Oracle | June 4, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

To all of the voters whom voted for Obama and Hillary Clinton. Look the race was great and the left wing of the party choose Obama over Clinton. On election night when they could of choose winning instead of loosing let see how they react to President Elect John McCain.
The election was rigged on the caucus states most kept no count of the people who voted. Nevada may be the exception Clinton wins by 5% and Obama gets more
delegates. It throws into question did he really win all of the caucus staes.
Then there is MSNBC Chris Mathews and how he spoke about Hillary Clinton in this election. No wonder she never appeared on his show for the college tour. Hillary Clinton is a lot of things but she is not stupid enough to come on his show.
On all the states Senator Obama won in the primary lets see how many will be blue on election night? Then lets see Chris Mathews tell the American people how dumb they are when Senator Obama looses.
I will not vote for Obama or McCain and sit this election out.

Posted by: Bill | June 4, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

I cry for all the young men and women that have been killed as a result of war BUT as you all well k this is a country that has a vol army and war is hell. We don’t belong over there but we are and since Obama was not even in the senate at the time of the vote it would have been hard for him to vote against it … he did talk against it but VOTE …NO WAY.

Posted by: Kris | June 4, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Good for you Bill. The funny thing is Obama, Clinton, and McCain are all rich. So will you really be hurting Obama?? or Chris Matthews for that matter?? Nope. You’ll be hurting yourself or those in your family less fortunate. When that happens, and your son, or nephew, or cousin, or whoever gets drafted to fight Iran. You can look in the mirror and say “Thanks Bill, we sure showed them.”

Posted by: The Oracle | June 4, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Kris: He gave a major speech regarding it, that was well-publicized especially in his state. Remember that this speech was given at a time when 80% of the country approved of the war. His own constituents were NOT particularly pleased that he spoke out against it as he did.
I don’t fault Hillary for being deceived. Foreign policy has never been her concentration and as such I wouldn’t expect her to read the entire report and realize how fraudulent it was. She trusted the government, trusted the white house. That’s NOT her fault. Obama was right, but she made the best decision she reasonably could have as a junior senator with a focus on domestic policies.
Bill, I would have to ask you: are you thinking of sitting this election out because you have some problem with Obama’s policies as President-elect, or simply because the candidate we supported seems to you to have been cheated out of the nomination?
She’ll probably be his VP anyway. We cannot allow bitterness towards the DNC–no matter how well placed–to keep us from voting for the candidate whose policies reflect our own views. We’re not Clintonites or Obamacons. We’re democrats. We’re liberals.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

“To Texan: Suppose Clinton became Obama’s VP. Would you still vote against them? Are you more pro-Clinton, or more anti-Obama? And why?”
I will vote against Obama even Hillary is on the same ticket as VP. She needs to be on the top, not Obama! DNC has given him everything he needs by their ugly biased partisan support, so don’t brag that Obama has won fair and square!
Only a dummy would ignore Obama’s tall tales of lies and only idiots like Obama’s supporters would give him a free pass!
Mr. Hope and “Change” should have “changed” his pastor and leave his hateful church long ago! It took 20 years for Obama to make a right decision: to leave Trinity Church and denounce all his racist friends! Does Obama have a good judgment??? The answer is NONE!
I don’t trust him to walk my dog let alone to lead this country!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Jason, I k that Mr Obama gave a great speech but it was only a speech and not a vote. It took more then Mrs Clinton to vote for the war … we as a country were hot after 911 and were not thinking. We have so much to worry about in this country besides the war and I just pray that Mr Obama is up to the task. No matter who the new president may be, we are going to have an up hill battle to get us back on the right road and it will take many yrs …

Posted by: Kris | June 4, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

“Any other stupid comments you want me to shoot down??”
I don’t mind if you can shoot down the Black bandwagon which has your jerk Obama and his racist friends sitting in it!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Texas, I’ll respond to your argument point by point.
First, you suggest the DNC gave him everything he needed by partisan support.
Consider: Clinton had approximately 200 superdelegate endorsements as of January of this year. Obama had none. I assume you refer to the Michigan/Florida debacle. Considering that the republicans likewise penalized them with half their delegates being seated, it’s hardly unfair to say that their actions in splitting the delegates in half were unreasonable or showing favor to Obama.
Sure, we in the Clinton camp wanted all of them, but that was unreasonable, and we knew it.
Now, as for the uncommitteds: some 70% of uncomitted voters were polled to have supported Obama, 25% edwards. Seeing as Edwards had supported Obama, and considering that the primary was flawed by nature of only having one candidate on the ballot, it was a natural response to give him the uncommitted vote.
Splitting the difference as they said may have shown some favoritism to the Obama camp, who preferred a 50-50 split (essentially making the primary meaningless). It wasn’t a meaningful primary by the nature of its organization, however. I do not agree with taking delegates away from Clinton, but the truth is these delegates made no difference in the end.
You’ll have to be more specific in ranting about Obama’s lies. Which lies? He was never caught in such an embarassing lie as Clinton was. The Bosnia thing was very humiliating for us, and you know it.
Finally, with regard to his church, all I will say is this: I have been inside black churches. I used to attend one not unlike Trinity United. I am white. A substantial portion of the trinity church is white. Snopes verifies that the church is not what many say it is, despite a sometimes controversial message.
Look. BLACK CHURCHES ARE NOT LIKE WHITE CHURCHES. That’s something more of us need to understand. This stuff is fluff. Judge Obama by what he’s done as a senator–writing and passing the “government google” bill; his legislation for veteran’s rights. Judge him by the success of his fundraising, which we both know far outstripped Clinton’s despite relying on a much smaller average contribution size.
Don’t judge him on things you don’t understand at all. Or, if you really want to get it, start going to the black church down the road. You know the one. See how it is there. Understand that this doesn’t mean he’s going to reflect Wright’s politics.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Kris: I agree with you completely there.
And all I can say is this: John McCain is not the man to bring us back to the “right road.” Unless you want to believe that everything he’s saying for his platform is a complete lie, he’s not promising to do much different for the economy or for our foreign policy.
Obama can do it. We can question his persona all we want, but when you get down to it, everyone here wants to see democrat, populist policies brought to the white house. Obama will. McCain won’t.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

By promoting a weak candidate with a thin resume like Obama, Obama’s supporters have not realized that they have given John McCain a lottery ticket in advance!
In Novemver, “except the blue state of Illinois, the whole country will be as red as the faces of DNC!”
Less than 6 months Mr. Blah blah blahhhh will become Mr. boohoo! One thing Obama’s fans should do in November is to invite Wright and Michael Pfleger to Obama farewell party. One will sing a song “God D America” with a monkey dance, and the other will mock the crying BOOHOOO!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Oh, I get it now Texas. You’re not actually here for serious discussion. Gotcha.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

‘You’ll have to be more specific in ranting about Obama’s lies. Which lies? He was never caught in such an embarassing lie..”
HaHa haha haaaa so you think Obama never lie????? ahaha hahaaa!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/23/trail-of-tall-tales-barack-obama/
still laughing!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

I am a young voter and I think it is absolutely disgraceful the way some of you all are replying to this article. Some of you guys have lost all respect for other people and their opinions which comments on your tainted character. It is perfectly fine and legal for you to prefer one candidate over another but a level of respect is still due to each and every candidate. McCain and Hilary supporters just make a fool of themselves when they let their emotions get the best of them and stoop to insulting Obama on personal terms. It is a sign that you feel threatened that their will soon be a power shift in this nation that will make people happy. The technical term is a red herring argument and it is well known as a fallacy in thinking. Get your minds straight and come with some real issues besides the race and religion cards because they are overused and pointless arguments. I am not only concerned about this election but I am concerned for the people who are consumed in bitterness right now instead of opening their minds to new possibilities. That closed mindedness will get you nowhere fast so just give your lame arguments a break because Obama and his supporters will continue to keep it classy throughout this election and respect the opponents. Can you honestly say you have done the same?

Posted by: impression | June 4, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Hillary Clinton should not be on the ticket. The President should surround himself with people he can trust. Hillary has shown her true side. She has fueled hatred amongst her supporters against Senator Obama. She believes she’s entitled to the position of President and although the Democratic nominee has been chosen, she still thinks she’s in control. I believe he can win without her and if not, that’s a chance I’m willing to take.

Posted by: Beverly | June 4, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Lol. Texas, somebody sounds racist. But it isn’t me or Obama. Look, its okay you can hate him all you want till you’re blue in the face. Who cares?? It’s your health. The good thing is you are the last of a dying breed, as evidenced by Obama clinching the nomination. An by “last of a dying breed”, I mean people who spew hate, and lies, while not holding themselves to the same standards they deem upon people not the same as them. Can you tell me you’ve stood up against EVERY racist, sexist or offensive language somebody you know or associated with?? No. So for that my friend you area hypocrite. And I wouldn’t say Wright was racist, maybe a little to the left, but he has many white friends and parishoners in that church.

Posted by: The Oracle | June 4, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Reading through Fox News’s article, these supposed “tall tales” and “lies” are, in large part, speculation and minute exaggeration.
#1) is an obvious reach, #2 puts words in his mouth, #3 is not a lie in any way and merely mischaracterizes his statement, #4 fails to cite its “non-partisan expert” sources and attempts to make connections not readily apparent, #5 was indeed a falsehood but in fact mischaracterizes him as he was explaining that he was AGAINST nuclear power and didn’t pass legislation for it regularly, #6 is irrelevant and again a mischaracterization as he has always touted that he TAUGHT law not that he was a researcher into it (as a professor would be), #7 is so minor it’s barely worth mentioning but obvious was a reference to something he remembered long ago, and #8 makes the failed suggestion that because he struggled and was quiet, he didn’t understand the language or culture at all.
Not one of these is a “big, embarassing lie” as I had previously mentioned, and most are mischaracterizations.
What else have you got?

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Beverly, there have been more negative campaigns out there. Kennedy took Johnson as his VP. Reagan took George H. W. Bush, who characterized Reagan’s supply side plan as “Voodoo economics.”
This was a typical primary, and it was very close and got way more attention than usual. In the interest of uniting the party, Obama would be well-served by taking the candidate that the other half of his electorate voted for.

Posted by: Jason | June 4, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

I am a young voter and I think it is absolutely disgraceful the way some of you all are replying to this article. Some of you guys have lost all respect for other people and their opinions which comments on your tainted character. It is perfectly fine and legal for you to prefer one candidate over another but a level of respect is still due to each and every candidate. McCain and Hilary supporters just make a fool of themselves when they let their emotions get the best of them and stoop to insulting Obama on personal terms. It is a sign that you feel threatened that their will soon be a power shift in this nation that will make people happy. The technical term is a red herring argument and it is well known as a fallacy in thinking. Get your minds straight and come with some real issues besides the race and religion cards because they are overused and pointless arguments. I am not only concerned about this election but I am concerned for the people who are consumed in bitterness right now instead of opening their minds to new possibilities. That closed mindedness will get you nowhere fast so just give your lame arguments a break because Obama and his supporters will continue to keep it classy throughout this election and respect the opponents. Can you honestly say you have done the same?

Posted by: impression | June 4, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

I am a young voter and I think it is absolutely disgraceful the way some of you all are replying to this article. Some of you guys have lost all respect for other people and their opinions which comments on your tainted character. It is perfectly fine and legal for you to prefer one candidate over another but a level of respect is still due to each and every candidate. McCain and Hilary supporters just make a fool of themselves when they let their emotions get the best of them and stoop to insulting Obama on personal terms. It is a sign that you feel threatened that their will soon be a power shift in this nation that will make people happy. The technical term is a red herring argument and it is well known as a fallacy in thinking. Get your minds straight and come with some real issues besides the race and religion cards because they are overused and pointless arguments. I am not only concerned about this election but I am concerned for the people who are consumed in bitterness right now instead of opening their minds to new possibilities. That closed mindedness will get you nowhere fast so just give your lame arguments a break because Obama and his supporters will continue to keep it classy throughout this election and respect the opponents. Can you honestly say you have done the same?

Posted by: impression | June 4, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Jason, I agree with you. I as an Obama supporter have reservations about Hillary and Bill in the white house as VP. But I think it’d be the best way to advance the things they both hold dear to them.

Posted by: The Oracle | June 4, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

texas—-soon you will have your state idiot back(george w bush) and then i would be very happy if that whole cracked goofy cattle loving poligamy waco killed kennedy belt buckle bigger then your head racist hatemonger warmonger loveing state left this union and we will go back to 49 states you freaks down in texas are some crazy waty out there losers.

Posted by: tom | June 4, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Hillary has run an outstanding race. But it is now time for the party to heal and move forward. It is time for Hillary to Concede the race to Barack Obama and allow the country to focus more on getting him into the White House. She must end the competition and allow the process to run its course. It is the decent thing to do for the party and for the country. Thank you.

Posted by: Time to End It | June 4, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

An element of inevitability was seen in Hillary campaign right from the beginning. She asked electorate to focus on her and vote while Obama asked people to hope for their own future and vote.
All I have say is this:
Long live democracy! Not without flaws (as last eight years have proved) but that is the best we have got.

Posted by: Harry | June 4, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Matthew,
Iraq.
Duh!

Posted by: oaguabonita | June 4, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Obama and his campaign have created the most racist, sexist, arrogant and ignorant people at the far left. Don’t expect us to be nice with you after all!
Hillary supporters, vote for Hillary if she decides to run as an Independent candidate!
Hillary has not conceded this race yet; don’t let these idiots discourage you. They have attacked Hillary since day one and now they are calling for unity. HELL NO! Let not forget what they did to Hillary!
If Hillary gives up this race, please vote for John McCain in November! A vote for John McCain is a vote against Obama and his supporters. Please help to send Obama back to where he belongs!

Posted by: Texas | June 4, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

It’s all about Hillary. Who cares?! Why is everyone STILL focused on Hillary? She has lost, fair and square -unless you consider how hard she has fought to make Obama look bad, how she tried to get all the MI and FL votes by changing the rules, etc. If there is another big smear coming to Obama, it will be Hillary who instigates it. She is a SORE LOSER. And the media needs to focus on the historic Obama candidacy and get over Hillary. Put the woman on the BACK page where she belongs, and put Obama on the first page -ALONE- where he deserves to shine!

Posted by: Karen | June 4, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

“Put the woman on the BACK page where she belongs, and put Obama on the first page -ALONE- where he deserves to shine!”
He deserves to shine ….like what? like his shoes which you guys have been licking them for months?

Posted by: Jane | June 4, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

GOOD LUCK OBAMA AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, NOW LETS TAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE! YOU KNOW, WHERE ALL THESE PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU WILL NEVER GET TO!!!!

Posted by: GENN | June 4, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Joan wrote: To All Obama Supporters: You go ahead keep being mean;guess what, Obama WILL lose in Nov. because a big portion of Hillary’s supporters, including my whole family, will vote for McCain in Nov.!
=====================================
Joan, I hope you and all those Hillary supporters like walking. Because if John McCain wins you will be doing a lot of walking…to the draft board…to Iran…to the VA Hospital…to the cemetary, etc.
The choice is simple…get over the sore loser attitude and unite, or pay with the blood of your children and grand children.

Posted by: MileHighMBA | June 4, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

finnus@11:51:31pm – Thank you for responding. I do think some of your reasons are a bit superficial but you can at least atriculate them without resorting screeching (too much).
Hiliary supporters – I am an African-American female who could not wait for the 2008 election cycle so I could vote for Hiliary. I even considered wwokring on her campaign in my state (NJ). When it was first mentioned that Barack was thinking about running I was strongly against it: who was he, what experience did he have? I really felt that he didn’t have a chance.
Then Barack started to win. And it is very important for me to say here that I did not and have not watched ANY news coverage other than election results. Mostly because it was the primary, all this analysis was unnecessary and simply alot of people earning ridiculous paychecks.
Back to Barack winning, when I realized that WHITE people (Iowa) really liked him and were actually seriously supporting a Black man I took another look. At this point, I was torn between Hiliary and Barack. I still thought that Hiliary was the better candidate and would be a better president BUT the idea that in my lifetime I could vote for a Black man for President of the United States of America was in the back of my mind.
On Super Tuesday, when NJ voted I stayed in the booth so long they thought I needed help. I ended up voting for Barack, not because I thought he would win. At that point I was convinced Hiliary was the nominee. I voted for Barack because I couldn’t not. Hiliary won NJ, but lost overall on ST.
Then the race remarks started. Not racist, just ones that played to white America’s fears about Blacks. And that’s when I saw Hiliary and Bill for what they really were. Ruthless competitors who would throw anyone and everyone under the bus to win. I could not understand how the Clintons could turn on African-Americans who had supported him (and her) through EVERYTHING. Our approval ratings for him never fell. We loved him and supported them. Bill had an office in Harlem; he spoke at the annual gala for the NY chapter of the National Black MBA Association (where I met him); he always SAID the right things about black people, so I BELIEVED they meant it.
90% of blacks voted for Barack for a combination of reasons. But don’t discount how much Hiliary hurt herself in the Black community by pandering to whites. If she had kept her message positive, she may have kept the Black vote. But she was the one who chose to play race. It cost her in the end.
Finally, as much as I want Barack to win, I know that I don’t know enough about him and his positions. But no matter what comes out, I know that McCain cannot be trusted. 8 years ago, I would have been a McCain supporter but he has been absorbed into his party and I don’t know who this person is anymore.
I can’t wait for the debates. And I would honestly hope that Hiliary supporters would wait for that too. Obama supporters could accuse you of the same uncivility you accuse them of. It was a very bitter primary race, but it’s over. Now the future of the nation is at stake. Make sure you make the choice you can live with 4-8 years from now or you may find yourself like the Bush supporters: wishing for a do-over.

Posted by: Barack's my man! | June 4, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

First, may I begin by saying that the best candidate for the Dem nom was selected. Hilary lost because she voted for the Iraq war and personally she proved some peoples points that women (HER) are just too emotional and cannot handle a position such as running the country, (although I don’t believe that I just think that she was just not the woman to do it). And as for people making comments about Obama supporters being petty, have you read some of these comments??? Waaaaa HRC didn’t win so I am voting for McCain. Are you serious?? What is this high school? Our economy is in the toilet where it will stay for the next upcoming years no matter who is in office. In every election promises are made and every time the winner steps into office promises are broken. You talk about experience. What is McCain’s experience going to do different than Obama’s?? O I forgot McCain’ experience includes the time he worked as a magician who turned economies around and provided jobs and health care for everyone. I forgot that he has cut all the crime in Arizona. I forgot that McCain has the experience to return us all to the Perfect America that we never knew. The perfect America . Yeah right. A country founded on the injustices of others. But who cares right?? We have moved past that. McCain and all of his experience is going to move us past that or Hilary and all of her experience and the fact that she held on to the working class white vote, which is all that mattered, could have moved us past that.Right?? Please. All of it is a stab in the dark. I just hope its Obama doing the stabbing because I know whats behind McCain’s door. We all want change and that is something that I think we can all agree on. But the fact is My Change is not your Change and yours is not mine. America please don’t be unrealistic. Nothing changes over night. McCain and Obama both have their ideas of how to fix things but they just have different ways of doing it. neither way is guaranteed to get us out of this Sh!t we have been living in especially the sh!t from the last eight years. This was a historic election. And I believe, from certain reactions, it has taught us all a huge lesson. America still has a long way to go. It is filled with racist oops I am sorry……Lack of experience haters. Get Real. Obama in 08, Change you can believe in. Change I choose to believe in.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 4, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

If this week’s events were the end of a Greek tragedy about the Clintons, we would say that Hillary had it coming to her, given the things that she and her husband have done (see my first entry at 8:47 or so on Tuesday). In a drama, her/their greed and unprincipled ambition would seem to have been fittingly rewarded, if there is justice in this world.
I am curious. Why would we say that fictional characters of such character are worthy of punishment, but that real people who do what they have done should be admired because they have play a dirty game so skillfully? Not just admired, but supported! Are there so few decent Americans available to occupy the White House that we have to support Hillery and her ilk? Is she the best woman for the job? What are we teaching our children when we want an unscrupulous person to be the leader of our country? So many hated Nixon because he lied to the country and now they love Hillery who is a fabulously dishonest person.
I’d really like some of you to respond to this, rather than just go on and on and on about how unfair things have been. All you Clinton Democrats out there: how is it that you, who’ve looked at conservatives with such scorn, seem to have so many who claim to be in your party who you say won’t vote for Senator Obama? You haven’t taught your children well, have you? Or is it that you don’t really care, as long as they vote for your candidate?

Posted by: Richard | June 4, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

hopefully obama drops dead

Posted by: joe | June 4, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Thanks for proving my point joe. i guess you are a Lack of experiance hater as well. Obama in 08.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 4, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

In the end, it simply boils down to this, Everyone has a single vote. Everyone can donate money to the candidate they want. Everyone has different needs and expectations. What is lost in all of this is. In order for Obama to win he had to take voter share away from Hillary. She had a large lead in every demographic before super tuesday. And after that day it kept shrinking. Obama provided a great campaign no one can deny. He is a great candidate. The showing of the popular vote, delegate, and super delgate shows this. He will draw a greater line between McCain and himself and we will choose a president based on this difference.

Posted by: John Jamison | June 4, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Thank you, Denny, for your response. Yours is one of the most intelligent I have read.
For those of you who are following the Obama bandwagon like lambs to the slaughter, here are a few insights to his beliefs in his own words, from his books.
Rather scary, don’t you think?
OBAMA’S OWN WORDS…………
I think you will find these quotes of Obama’s own words very interesting and
very alarming when you consider the events and signs of the times in which
we are living.
This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close
attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama’s books ‘
his words:
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the
age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating
myself to whites.’
From Dreams of My Father : ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense
of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you
were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name
names.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose
fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the
attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’
From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political
winds shift in an ugly direction.’

Posted by: Cathrine | June 4, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN…”On June 13, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), while serving as an Illinois state senator in 1998, “did a political favor” for Chicago Democratic fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko by writing letters to state and local government officials in support of a Chicago housing project proposed by Rezko’s company, New Kenwood LLC. The Sun-Times asserted that the “letters appear to contradict a statement last December from Obama, who told the Chicago Tribune that, in all the years he’s known Rezko, ‘I’ve never done any favors for him.’ ” Obama, who has worked as a lawyer and a legislator to improve living conditions for the poor, took campaign donations from Rezko even as Rezko’s low-income housing empire was collapsing, leaving many African-American families in buildings riddled with problems — including squalid living conditions, vacant apartments, lack of heat, squatters and drug dealers. “

Posted by: deja vu 08 | June 4, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Cathrine are you serious??? Are you Biracial?? Do you know what is like to be excluding because you look like one more than the other??? What are your thoughts?? What were some of your experiences as a biracial person?? I know for a fact that Halle Berry said that she asked her mom what she was, all of this stemming from the treatment she received from whites in her community, and her White mom told her to look in the mirror and tell her what she saw. Halle said I see a black girl and her mom said then that is what you are. So please do some research about the feelings of biracial members of your community.if you don’t know any look up Alicia Keys,Lenny Kravitz,or Halle Berry just to name a few. Not all of them check the “other” box. As a matter of fact my husband is biracial (Black and white) and he told me tales of how him and his brothers, Raised by their white father, were tormented all through school about being Black. they went to predominately white schools. They were called monkeys and niggers by some of their white classmates. Now mind you this is in 1997. He found his black counterparts to be more welcoming and accepting. So when you ask him what he is he will proudly say that he is BLACK. The best part about Obama is he, throughout his whole campaign did not stoop to the levels you all wanted him to,addressing the Race issue Never once did he say he was going to exclude anyone. Did he say that he didn’t like white people?? tell me when he says that. tell me when he says that he is going to make them pay more in taxes or something like that. then there would be reason for concern.but no he never said anything like that, yet you try to use his memoirs to say and prove what??? He’s black and????? Are you mad because he’s not checking that “other” box?? What does that have to do with his politics?? Or are you saying that you don’t want a BLACK president that identifies with BLACK people?? Like I said America has a long way to go. And for the record if he ever got pulled over by the police they are not describing him as a white or biracial male. Check your constitution I believe it outlines which side one should pick if you are biracial. Not that you should have to pick but you wanted to get technical so let’s go there.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 4, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

I was so happy to hear Hillary Clinton’s speech last night and today they were both excellent. She is a very much a stronger leader and I hope she make her choice soon what she wants next and takes her time. She is a true winner and will always be. I was happy for Obama for being the firt black african american only was happy for that part not for him winning but for him being the first black I give him some credit. But I heard a lot of hate over the black radio talk stations that they do not like Hillary they spoke so hateful about Hillary I don;t understand if he won why are they hating on Hillary still makes no sense at all. All I now Hillary stands by Isreal and the Jews and I hope these kind of acts of hate stop, she helped Obama win if you ask me. No one understands that. Hillary is the most popular in votes so I see her as a real winner. dahh

Posted by: gg | June 4, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Hillary is much the leader we need and I hope she will be out next president if it’s not McCain or Obama, the White House will never be the same with out the Clintons back our neither our economy will recover without a true Clinton or Clintons. suck it up for all you who hate Hillary media and ABC and Obama Supporters

Posted by: gg | June 4, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Hillary is much the leader we need and I hope she will be out next president if it’s not McCain or Obama, the White House will never be the same with out the Clintons back our neither our economy will recover without a true Clinton or Clintons. suck it up for all you who hate Hillary media and ABC and Obama Supporters

Posted by: gg | June 4, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Most of you people dont remember the last time we had a good guy like obama in the whitehouse. but i do and he couldnt get anything done and set the stage for reganomics the following term. yes carter and obama are alot alike. and he wont do anything becuase of his lack of a backbone and wont play politics. hillary knows how to deal with washington. obamna is still wet behind the ears. McCain could do more for our Country than another carter. Hillary suppoerters we Must do the right thing. no matter how much it hurts, and vote republican.

Posted by: oregon | June 4, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

I didn’t feel like reading all the comments, so I’ll just comment on the article itself.
I’ve seen a couple articles talking about what mistakes Hillary Clinton made in this campaign, what Clinton did wrong, or how “Clinton lost”. While they point out accurate blunders on her part, it seems like these statements overshadow Barack Obama as a great candidate. It’s as if to say that anybody in his place would’ve won and that simply is not the case.
I understand that people tend to focus more on Clinton because a) she’s more well-known, and b) she should’ve had this race in the bag. She had a strong campaign party, she was former First Lady of a popular president for 2 terms, she was more well known than any of her democratic opponents, she’s got 35 years of experience in politics and she’s a woman… something new to offer to U.S. presidency. So, of course, most people are analyzing how she blew such an advantage. But I think those same people tend to forget that she was up against a surprisingly formidable candidate.
No matter how good you are at anything, there is one key factor that you must always acknowledge (and any comedian can verify this)…. timing. Barack Obama pulled off the upset victory of the century, not just because he has good judgement, not just because has a brilliant campaign, not just because he’s charismatic and trustworthy, and not just because he raised more money. On top of all that, his timing was perfect. He is the right guy at the right time.
The general public is tired of having a leader who tells us what they think we want, or does things their own way regardless of what we think. We’re tired of doing things the same old way and not making any progress. The people wanted change, and some hope that things would get better. Barack delivers. Hillary tried to compare him to George W. Bush in terms of inexperience; but Bush failed because of little experience, and not changing anything. Barack’s amount of experience benefits him because he does plan to change things. Barack speaks to the young and educated voters on a level that they understand and talks about issues that they are passionate about. He invites people to get involved to help change the country for the better. People trust and believe in him because they feel he’s in it for the people and not just himself.
Why? One pronoun. Hillary tends to use “I” almost all the time. When you hear Barack talk about his accomplishments in this race, he uses “we”. With Clinton, it’s all about her. With Obama, it’s about him, his family, his campaign party, his supporters…. he knows this can’t be done alone, and remains humble. He ran a clean campaign and stuck to the issues. When things got rough for Clinton, she started the mudslinging, the nitpicking, and the anything-goes usual dirty politics. People saw that and made their choice… from voters to superdelagates.
Clinton did lose due to her own faults, but Obama won because he is a great candidate.

Posted by: Twin Tiger | June 4, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Posted by: oregon | Jun 4, 2008 9:20:29 PM
You just think Obama is a good guy. If he doesn’t let Hillary and the Clinton machine run over him, Iamadickjob in Iran doesn’t have a chance in H@@L!

Posted by: Rita | June 4, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

And, my friends, “Old man yells at cloud”.

Posted by: Rita | June 4, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Jun 3, 2008 8:50:46 PM
So, in South Africa, he would be colored, right? We don’t care if he is black or white (flashback to Michael Jackson)as long as he is smart.

Posted by: Rita | June 4, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Hey Mr. Flip Flop Obama:
You have no judgments
You have no experience
You had been associated with black racists and Muslim extremists for the past 20 years and it took 20 years for you to make a right decision to leave your hateful church with your radical friends behind!!!!
Did you ever make up your mind when you were in Illinois State senate? You voted 130 times “present” instead of “yes” or “no”??????
In this election you did not win fair and square. You are rewarded votes from MI which you do not deserve! The media has given you free pass because they took money from one of your supporters George Soros and Moveon.org!
You have operated a divisive and racist campaign that we will never forget!
You don’t deserve to be a winner because you cannot win even half of Democrat ‘s voters!
Your supporters have attacked Hillary relentlessly since day one. Thanks for these idiots; now my family will switch to be Independent!
You have less than six more months to go. Hope that I will not see you for the rest of my life after November!

Posted by: Tolkien | June 4, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Posted by: Jason | Jun 4, 2008 12:36:38 PM
Did you say Fox? How to you pronounce ‘loofah’?

Posted by: Rita | June 4, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

black racists = oxymoron
Muslim extremists, I thought this was what we were fight in the Middle East
present” instead of “yes” or “no” = is this Constitutional
In this election you did not win fair and square = i don’t like the rule about it being about the delegate count
George Soros and Moveon.org = products of the right wing impeachment of Bill Clinton
divisive and racist campaign = Hillary, Hi
Hope that I will not see you for the rest of my life after November! = If God is willing maybe we won’t here from you long before that

Posted by: Rita | June 4, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Hillary lost the election because “she just lost” No one stole it from her or took it away. We play games and we sometimes we loose. I wish both had played the game a lot smarter because we could have killed two birds with one election. An African American and a woman on the Democratic ticket for President of the United States Of America. History would have been made. We may never get this opportunity again because we let our egos get the best of our critical thinking.

Posted by: dorothy | June 4, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

I’m with the people that have pointed to the war vote. had clinton voted against the war Obama would have had no opening. clinton went all in on geo bush’s suggestion and now she’s done, not broke, but as they say in bluegrass, badly bent.
the best part: she did it on her own.

Posted by: virginia cynic | June 4, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

@virginia cynic
Clinton didn’t lose just because she was for the war and Obama was against it. This race wasn’t decided by that one simple thing. He used better judgement than her most of the way.
Her gender was an asset at a time when this country needed a leader with more empathy and family values; she chose to play it like one of the boys. The country truly wanted change; she chose to ride on her 35 years of experience. We wanted somebody we felt we could trust; she flat out lied about her trip to Bosnia as an example of her “battle-readiness”. Her and Bill played the race card when it wasn’t needed… against a black candidate, no less (no wonder it backfired). While Obama kept cool and stuck to the issues. She tried to play his way, but you know the saying about old dogs and new tricks.
So, I agree… she did do it on her own, but it goes far beyond the war vote.

Posted by: Twin Tiger | June 5, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

MY VOTE IS FOR SENATOR BARACK OBAMA.
I PRAY FOR MR. AND MRS. OBAMA, THAT I WILL SEE THEM JAN.2009 AS PRESIDENT AND THE LADY OBAMA OF THE UNITED STATES.
(Mr. Obama wife is THE LADY) I agree with LADY OBAMA, I HAVE NEVER BEEN PROUD OF THE UNITED STATES. I’m still not proud of the United States. From George Washington to President George Bush Jr. That is why I am not proud of the United State we are in., a mess since the 1st president. I do Hope Mr. Senator Obama will do all in his power to straight out this mess. With the help of those Mr. Senator Obama choose and The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the United States will for the first time be UNITED.

Posted by: margieharrisjohnson | June 5, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

A chance should be given to this new young IL.Dencr. star. The American people are in need of a real change, are in need of new blood. The present policies of the While House have led America to a disastrous results, and it is time for change,so let this young man try his luck at that oval office.

Posted by: Hassan Sido | June 5, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

Hillary lost for more than one reason, but main one, the age ignorance of the young voters “wanting ‘change’” This generation of voters have grown up with everything their little hearts wanted, just scream, you will get it. Now they want change ??
Obviously women are still second class citizens. People make fun of her pantsuits, when I grew up, I am 64, women went no where in pants. Look into what life used to be like.

Posted by: Domenica | June 5, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

and obama is just the pansy ass who distances himself from his own clergy to save face. What will he do in a time of trouble for us americans? Drop dead obama and I hope you read this you weak wristed chickenshit

Posted by: joe | June 5, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Hillary lost because the Super delegates wanted Obama. Also, McCain has very little money and he won early on. He really hasn’t even campagined much since the Democrats have been dancing all over the place. The Dems have an awful way of running their caucuses and it should be changed. Goes to show that if they keep it muddy, they confuse the American voters to the point where they don’t realize they never had a choice in the first place. Obama might get elected, but some radical group will put him out. Don’t know if anyone else predicted this but I do.

Posted by: Susan | June 5, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Hillary lost because the Super delegates wanted Obama. Also, McCain has very little money and he won early on. He really hasn’t even campagined much since the Democrats have been dancing all over the place. The Dems have an awful way of running their caucuses and it should be changed. Goes to show that if they keep it muddy, they confuse the American voters to the point where they don’t realize they never had a choice in the first place. Obama might get elected, but some radical group will put him out. Don’t know if anyone else predicted this but I do.

Posted by: Susan | June 5, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

sorry bout the double post

Posted by: Susan | June 5, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

I’m really happy for Mr. Obama
My license plates read “BKOBAMA”
He is the one.
Choosing Clinton as a VP will be Obama’s
big mistake.
That means “Bill Clinton is back”

Posted by: maria | June 5, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Hilliary was cheated out of her candidancy. They stole her votes. Surely you will reap what is sown..beware!

Posted by: gwms | June 5, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

With less than eight months remaining in U.S. President George W. Bush’s term, presidential candidates Barack Obama opposed the Military Commissions Act that in 2006 resurrected the military commissions, but McCain supported it.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

HILLARY IS THE BEST PERSON TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SHE IS A WOMAN, SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING, SHE IS FOR EACH PERSON IN AMERICA, SHE IS WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GO THAT EXTRA MILE TO HELP EACH PERSON IN AMERICA, WHAT MORE DO WE NEED.
OBAMA IS NOT THE BEST PERSON TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA. HE IS A LIER. HE IS BLACK, HE DOES NOT KNOW THE FIRST STEP TO TAKING CHARGE OF THE USA. HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE AMERICAN FLAG. HE DOES NOT WANT TO HURT HIS COUNTRY’S FEELING TO REPRESENT OUR FLAG. HE DOES NOT SPEAK THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BECAUSE IT HAS GOD IN IT. HE DOES NOT EVEN BELIEVE IN THE LORD ABOVE. HE WILL NOT EVEN CROSS HIS HEART WHEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLIEGIANCE IS BEING SPOKE NOR WILL HE SAY IT ALONG WITH THE USA.
WHAT TYPE OF PERSON ARE YOU GUYS VOTING FOR TO REPRESENT THE USA?? WE DONT NEED A PERSON LIKE THIS TO REPRESENT OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING FOR OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING EVERYBODY IN OUR COUNTRY INTO.
COLOR DOES HAS AN ISSUE IN THIS MATTER OF VOTING FOR THE RIGHT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE. LISTEN TO THE NEWS, RADIO’S, INTERNET BLOGS, INTERNET VIDEOS, AND WHATEVER ELSE SPEAKS/SHOWS TO US HOW AND WHAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALL ABOUT. I DONT HAVE TO POST IT ON HERE EVERYBODY KNOWS FROM HEARING AND SEEING IT ON THE NEWS EACH AND EVERY DAY AND NIGHT, WETHER IT BE THE NEWS, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING THE BLACK CULTURE PERSONALLY THERESELVES. WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR OUR COUNTRY AND VOTE FOR THE WHITE. WE MIGHT OF BROUGHT THEM THINGS OVER HERE TO OUR COUNTRY (WHICH WAS THE WORST MISTAKE THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE DID IN THEIR ENTIRE LIVES AND WE ARE SERIOUSLY REGRETTING IT NOW) BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA. THE BLACKS THAT LIVE IN OUR USA DONT EVEN LIKE OUR COUNTRY AT ALL. I HEART THAT ON THE RADIO THE OTHER DAY A BLACK MAN STATED THAT FROM ALL THE BLACKS THAT THEY DO NOT LIKE AND BELIEVE IN THE USA AT ALL THAT THEY HATE IT.
AND THAT IS THE COLOR AND THE RESPECT THAT ALL YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS VOTED FOR TO BECOME THE NEXT PRESIDENT. YOU ALL WILL SEE WHAT TYPE OF SUPPORT AND HOW THE USA WILL BE AND BECOME ONCE HE IS ELECTED THE NEW PRESIDENT.
YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS YOU ALL CAN KISS MY A**. YOU ALL ARE DISGUSTING ILL NATURED INDIVIDUALS FOR VOTING FOR BARACK OBAMA .
YOU ALL WILL SEE AND ALL OF YOU WILL REGRET WHAT YOU ALL DID BY HAVING HIM FOR THE PRESIDENT OF OUR USA.

Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 5, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

WHITE POWER | Jun 5, 2008 11:57:31 AM
I CAN ADD UP TO THAT….HILLARY 2009-2012. GO HILLARY!!!!
I was a daily listener of Warren Balentine, Michele Basiden, and other black talk radio shows before Obama. I was all into the movement of help black people achieve in America. Most of these black talk radio hosts would talked about the New World Order and the impact on BLACK and all AMERICA, the need to close our border, no to same sex marriage, AID, no free pass for legal immigrants. Months after Obama came to town, these topics were no longer important to the black community. It was all about hating the Clintons, what the white done to us, getting pay, putting the first black man in office, protecting Obama because white people my hurt him, etc. It was like the agenda of the black people had changed overnight. Before Obama, most of our Black’s views were in line with most White American. For once I felt, we (black and white people) were coming together to build a better America. Yes, we still have some major racial problems to work on but we were working together for the good the America. Now, I feel like we are at the beginning of our work instead of the middle to the end. What happen? Obama! And, no it was not the Clintons because the change on black talk radios started before Bill made his fair tale statement. I strongly believe that all of the black leaders got together and discussed how to push message of this operation Obama push effort, staring with the black talk radio shows down to the black churches. We all being played. Obama has NOT thrown the black people, his church, and the pastors. White voters must understand the strategy that is being placed here. Black people, Obama’s church, and the pastors all understand that Obama needs the white voters to win. And, they are willing accept any things Obama needs to do win. If you listen to black talk radios, the black people are being told to be quiet and let Obama do what he needs to do. And, to keep their focus on the bigger prize which is the White House. So if Obama needs to throw the black, his church, and the pastors under the bus it is okay because they know he does not mean it. Obama needs to do it for now so the white people can feel okay to release their votes. We are being played. Watch you will not hear any more from his old pastor, the new crazy white pastor, or his black supporters nor will you see a drop in his black supporters for leaving his church. They will be awarded once Obama get into the White House with policies in favor of their needs.BHO (Bone Headed Obama) is a WIMP, chameleon, hypocrite and WOLF in Sheeps’ skin. Here are some of BHO’s lies, misjudgments, boneheaded decisions and contradictions.
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• He claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO was not mad about Wright’s anti-American, racist rants until a few days back. But what made him mad is that his lack of credibility was exposed by Mr. Wright when he said “Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls,”
• BHO Says he is PRO-LIFE, but also said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
• He is TOUGH enough to throw his grand mother under the bus, but he neither has GUTS to repudiate his anti-American, racist pastor nor has GUTS to vote NO to stop Adult Porn Shops from opening up next to our children’s schools.
• BHO wants us to BELIEVES in CHANGE, but the kind of CHANGE he is really talking about is to go down to his knees to negotiate unconditionally to Iran’s Ahmadinejad, Hamas and other terrorist groups.
• BHO claims to be ‘TRUE’, but he is full of lies like He never opposed hand guns, He never heard Mr. Wright making the incendiary quotes, He never said – he will not wear flag lapel pin, He is against NAFTA but had his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn’t really mean what he said about NAFTA and the list goes on and on
• BHO took 20 years to finally accept that his pastor is an anti-American. BHO is an opportunistic liar.
• BHO Claims to be a PATRIOT, but refuses to wear flag lapel pin and his wife Michelle says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and America is a mean country
• BHO claims to be the better Commander-in-Chief, but how can he get that position if he can not even obtain the Top Security Clearance?
• BHO says WORDs MATTER, but is always short of words and steals them from others and constantly demands the people whom he insults to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
• He says he is Washington Outsider, but admitted in the debate that his campaign played negative tactics against Clinton in PA. BHO has more Washington Insiders endorsing him thus OWEs to them something that will MAKE HIM BIGGEST WASHINGTON INSIDER.
THERE’S A CONNIVANCE AND HYPOCRICY INVOLVED IN HIS DEFECTION. WE CANNOT TRUST THE BLACK COMMUNITY… WE CANNOT TRUST OBAMA… THEY’RE ALL FOR SELFISH REASONS… THAT’S WHY GOD WILL NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN…OBAMA WILL NEVER WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION….GOD WILL NOT LET UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BE RULED BY BLACK HYPOCRITES. THEY WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA HOWEVER BAD HIS RESUME, HOWEVER DIRTY HIS WAYS TO THE TOP AND HOWEVER BAD HIS ASSOCIATIONS WITH DANGEROUS PEOPLE INCLUDING THE ENEMIES OF THE STATE BECAUSE OBAMA IS THEIR OWN KIND. THEY ARE TOO DESPERATE TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN KIND IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE BECAUSE THEIR CAUSE IS TOO SELFISH. IF AA RULES, UNITED STATES WILL BE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY BECAUSE AAs IN GENERAL ARE LIKE WILD ANIMALS UNRULY BY NATURE AND THAT’S A FACT. NOW, UNDERSTAND WHY THE WHITES AND OTHER RACES ARE TOO AFRAID TO LIVE IN ONE COMMUNITY WITH THE AAs.

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

WHITE POWER | Jun 5, 2008 11:57:31 AM
I CAN ADD UP TO THAT….HILLARY 2009-2012. GO HILLARY!!!!
I was a daily listener of Warren Balentine, Michele Basiden, and other black talk radio shows before Obama. I was all into the movement of help black people achieve in America. Most of these black talk radio hosts would talked about the New World Order and the impact on BLACK and all AMERICA, the need to close our border, no to same sex marriage, AID, no free pass for legal immigrants. Months after Obama came to town, these topics were no longer important to the black community. It was all about hating the Clintons, what the white done to us, getting pay, putting the first black man in office, protecting Obama because white people my hurt him, etc. It was like the agenda of the black people had changed overnight. Before Obama, most of our Black’s views were in line with most White American. For once I felt, we (black and white people) were coming together to build a better America. Yes, we still have some major racial problems to work on but we were working together for the good the America. Now, I feel like we are at the beginning of our work instead of the middle to the end. What happen? Obama! And, no it was not the Clintons because the change on black talk radios started before Bill made his fair tale statement. I strongly believe that all of the black leaders got together and discussed how to push message of this operation Obama push effort, staring with the black talk radio shows down to the black churches. We all being played. Obama has NOT thrown the black people, his church, and the pastors. White voters must understand the strategy that is being placed here. Black people, Obama’s church, and the pastors all understand that Obama needs the white voters to win. And, they are willing accept any things Obama needs to do win. If you listen to black talk radios, the black people are being told to be quiet and let Obama do what he needs to do. And, to keep their focus on the bigger prize which is the White House. So if Obama needs to throw the black, his church, and the pastors under the bus it is okay because they know he does not mean it. Obama needs to do it for now so the white people can feel okay to release their votes. We are being played. Watch you will not hear any more from his old pastor, the new crazy white pastor, or his black supporters nor will you see a drop in his black supporters for leaving his church. They will be awarded once Obama get into the White House with policies in favor of their needs.BHO (Bone Headed Obama) is a WIMP, chameleon, hypocrite and WOLF in Sheeps’ skin. Here are some of BHO’s lies, misjudgments, boneheaded decisions and contradictions.
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• He claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO was not mad about Wright’s anti-American, racist rants until a few days back. But what made him mad is that his lack of credibility was exposed by Mr. Wright when he said “Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls,”
• BHO Says he is PRO-LIFE, but also said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
• He is TOUGH enough to throw his grand mother under the bus, but he neither has GUTS to repudiate his anti-American, racist pastor nor has GUTS to vote NO to stop Adult Porn Shops from opening up next to our children’s schools.
• BHO wants us to BELIEVES in CHANGE, but the kind of CHANGE he is really talking about is to go down to his knees to negotiate unconditionally to Iran’s Ahmadinejad, Hamas and other terrorist groups.
• BHO claims to be ‘TRUE’, but he is full of lies like He never opposed hand guns, He never heard Mr. Wright making the incendiary quotes, He never said – he will not wear flag lapel pin, He is against NAFTA but had his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn’t really mean what he said about NAFTA and the list goes on and on
• BHO took 20 years to finally accept that his pastor is an anti-American. BHO is an opportunistic liar.
• BHO Claims to be a PATRIOT, but refuses to wear flag lapel pin and his wife Michelle says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and America is a mean country
• BHO claims to be the better Commander-in-Chief, but how can he get that position if he can not even obtain the Top Security Clearance?
• BHO says WORDs MATTER, but is always short of words and steals them from others and constantly demands the people whom he insults to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
• He says he is Washington Outsider, but admitted in the debate that his campaign played negative tactics against Clinton in PA. BHO has more Washington Insiders endorsing him thus OWEs to them something that will MAKE HIM BIGGEST WASHINGTON INSIDER.
THERE’S A CONNIVANCE AND HYPOCRICY INVOLVED IN HIS DEFECTION. WE CANNOT TRUST THE BLACK COMMUNITY… WE CANNOT TRUST OBAMA… THEY’RE ALL FOR SELFISH REASONS… THAT’S WHY GOD WILL NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN…OBAMA WILL NEVER WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION….GOD WILL NOT LET UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BE RULED BY BLACK HYPOCRITES. THEY WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA HOWEVER BAD HIS RESUME, HOWEVER DIRTY HIS WAYS TO THE TOP AND HOWEVER BAD HIS ASSOCIATIONS WITH DANGEROUS PEOPLE INCLUDING THE ENEMIES OF THE STATE BECAUSE OBAMA IS THEIR OWN KIND. THEY ARE TOO DESPERATE TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN KIND IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE BECAUSE THEIR CAUSE IS TOO SELFISH. IF AA RULES, UNITED STATES WILL BE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY BECAUSE AAs IN GENERAL ARE LIKE WILD ANIMALS UNRULY BY NATURE AND THAT’S A FACT. NOW, UNDERSTAND WHY THE WHITES AND OTHER RACES ARE TOO AFRAID TO LIVE IN ONE COMMUNITY WITH THE AAs.

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

IF OBAMA THINKS HE’LL WIN BACK MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA, HE’S DAMN WRONG. ALTHOUGH GALLUP POLLS HAVE SHOWN HE HAS A CHANCE. TAKE A LOOK AT SOUTH DAKOTA. EXIT POLLS SHOWED OBAMA LEADING IN LARGE DOUBLE-DIGIT MARGIN. GUESS WHO WON? HILLARY IN DOUBLE-DIGIT. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING HILLARY SUPPORTERS HAVE COME TO KNOW THE REAL PERSON BEHIND OBAMA. HAD THESE ISSUES COME OUT BEFORE THE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY PRIMARIES/CAUCUSES, THE RESULT COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.
HILLARY, WE URGE YOU TO RUN INDEPENDENT. I HAVE A BAD FEELING THAT OBAMA AND HIS CAMP INCLUDING THE DNC WHO GANGED UP ON YOU AND TREATED YOU UNFAIRLY WILL NOT SHARE THE TICKET WITH YOU AS VICE PRESIDENT. PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES LIKE JIMMY CARTER HAS ALREADY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THAT IDEA. IT’S NOT TOO LATE. YOU HAVE FOUGHT TIL THE END OF THE LAST PRIMARIES AND YOU WON IMPORTANT STATES TO WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION THIS FALL. YOU HAVE RELIED ON OUR VOTES TO GET ON WHERE YOU ARE NOW LEADING THE POPULAR VOTE. NOW WE’RE RELYING ON YOU NOT TO DESERT US BY STOOPING TO OBAMA’S LEVEL, BUT TO FIGHT FOR OUR BELIEF THAT YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU HAVE WORKED HARD FOR TO DESERVE THAT HIGHEST POSITION – FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Posted by: Jane1563 | June 5, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

If Obama is a Muslim Extremist, then what are you besides a racist. but the funny thing is that none of this is a surprise. i hope Obama rides over all you haters right on to the whitehouse. you all give white people a bad name. but unlike you i know that you are not all the same but some of you are evil, talk about devils. You will reap what you sow. Obama in 08.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

ObamaGurl | Jun 5, 2008 1:07:53 PM
I KNOW TRUTH HURTS BUT WE’RE NOT RACISTS JUST BECAUSE WE DON’T AGREE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA. THE WORLD IS NOT A FANTASY LAND. YOU CAN JUST GO TO HELL AND DRAG ALONG OBAMA AND HIS DREAMS WITH YOU…

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

I see the truth hurts Neil1785. it is reflected in all of the comments. Obama won and that is the truth. McCain has no money and that is the truth. so believe me i know it hurts. and you are racist but thats okay to. Obama doesn’t care and nither do I. i just call them like i see them….lol you people are comedy. and i don’t live in fantasy land. obviously you do. you apparently didn’t know that black people had voices. but i welcome you back to the real world. Get over it. Obama in 08

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Tiger Tiger please go back where you come from so you can be proud, if they gave you the right to vote, they should take it back, what do you mean you mean never proud of america until barack obama. your the kind of people we dont want in this country.america has had so many great presidents, who have served this country honorbly, for you to say otherwise is a slap in our face.

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

ObamaGurl | Jun 5, 2008 2:17:56 PM
keep on dreaming coz he ain’t gonna win the general election without Hillary and I bet she’s gonna run as independent or her supporters will go to MCCain who is lesser evil than Obama.

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

tiger tiger go back where you came from there are so many great men who have served our country, Obama has served our Country for only 3 years for you to say never proud until now. slap all Americans in the face. i have issues with America, but i believe in america. Obama is ALL TALK and nothing else. hes done nothing for you. unlike the Clintons. but your proably too young or havent been here long. or cared about American politics. Hillary was our last really good chance to have a descent president. without any problems. but maybe this is americas last HURRAH. Its like from one extreme George W Bush to Barack Obama Hussein

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

FACTS: Only the Clintons understand the American economy. Social Security is being paid with money borrowed from China. The USA doesn’t make enough money from tax payers the IRS only reports $400 billions a year. The USA owes $40 trillions with interests. There are 1000 billions in a trillion. There is no money for Social Security it has been taken for other expenses.The USA people don’t have as much savings compare to the rest of the world. The USA medical system is the most expensive in the world. The oil bought today is paid with money borrowed from China. The world considers China the new empire not the USA. When Mr. Clinton was President the USA was #1 in the world with the strongest economy. The Clintons left $500 billions surplus, a balance budget and the world enjoy peace. We need the Clintons right now, urgently. The Clintons also improved the condition of the Black community. They even gave them better privileges than any other race like healthcare, etc. and most importantly, afforded them the luxury of 230 points added to their SATs in order for AAs to get into an Ivy League school. They must be that dumb. Now, where are they? playing the race card. Made an issue on Bill Clinton’s statement of truth in South Carolina. Deval Patrick from whome Obama’s rhetorics were plagiarized, is a smart man, and worked hard to be where he is with a little help from scholarships and the Clinton Administration I don’t mean to belittle that; I had a few scholarships myself. But then, he should remember who helped him to get to where he is today. And that wasn’t Barack Obama… It was the Clinons….

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

White power its ok to be racist. but please keep it yourself. you not helping us Hillary clinton supporters. yopur proably not even one of us. Maybe Obamas gurl trying to make it sound like Hillary supporters are racist, i know she thinks if you dont vote Obama your a racist.she doesnt care that over 95 percent of the black people. voted for becuase hes black. so if you want to argue change your Handle, and use talking points not racism. GO HILLARY!!!!!…

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Obama gurl this election isnt about color its about politics can you have disscustion, that involves the issues? I highly doubt it. and since when have you been a White Woman hater signed proud to be an American

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

TRUST ME I VOTED FOR HILLARY AT THE PRIMARIES. AND IF SHE GOES INDEPENDENT I WILL STILL VOTE FOR HER. I WILL NEVER VOTE OBAMA. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.
GO HILLARY. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO GIRL TO GET THE VOTES!!!
HILLARY SUPPORTER TO THE END!!!!

Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 5, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Neil1785 I didn’t know you were a psychic as well. Who really Shot JFK?? And just as you know that
Obama isn’t going to win the GE. You knew that he would win the Dem Nom??? That is crazy. And are you black??? I don’t think that you are. Honestly blacks as with any race of people improve their own conditions. We are the only ones that can do so. Tax breaks and programs that are implemented to improve the “conditions” of people apply to everyone not just blacks and whites. I think you need to take your blinders off or think before you speak. If the nation felt like you do about the Clintons she would be in office and we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Yes I agree things were good under Clinton. When it was his time he bought about his version of change. Now it’s someone else’s turn. Just not Hilary’s:0(

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Obama gurl face it If a black man was running for president, against J.F.K. over 95% of African Americans whould vote for a black person, becuase hes black.not becuase hes the better canidate. facts are facts. and oh yeah OJ simpson is guilty.

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

oregon | Jun 5, 2008 2:44:39 PM
Obama gurl this election isnt about color its about politics can you have disscustion, that involves the issues? I highly doubt it. and since when have you been a White Woman hater signed proud to be an American
Is that how I appear?? Did I say that?? I don’t believe so. And I am talking about the issues Oregon. And that is actually my point and if you would read some of the comments before you even begin to speak to me. It obviously is about his race. I specifically asked what does his race have to do with his politics. So please read my posting and come at me correct next time. And as a matter of fact I never said that I hated anyone not event the pure racist on this blog. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions. When you decide to make them public you open the door for them to be commented on. I welcome all comments. Now you talk about the “issues” obviously you have much to say. or were you just talking as it is your natural right??
also below is a snip of an article stripped fresh from Yahoo news:
“One of the great unknowns is the race factor. With no historical precedents for a nonwhite nominee, it is impossible to predict how or where Obama’s race will affect his chances.”
now what do you think that is saying Oregon?? i don’t know. maybe you can elaborate. what are these people saying? why is this even coming up?

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

ORGEGON:
YOU TELL IT, TELL IT ALL GOOD!!!
OBAMAGURL NEEDS TO JUST GET OUT WHILE SHE CAN.
I NEVER SEEN SO MANY BLACKS VOTE IN MY LIFE THIS YEAR. ONLY BECAUSE OBAMA IS RUNNING. THEY WERE BREAKING THERE NECKS TO GET UP TO THOSE POLLS TO CAST THERE STUPID WORTHLESS VOTE FOR A BLACK MAN.
SORRY TO SAY, YOU CAN CALL ME RACIST, YOU CAN CALL ME WHATEVER, BUT, YOU CAN NEVER CALL ME AN OBAMA VOTER!!!
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ALL THE WAY!!!!!!
SUPPORT OUR GIRL!!!!!
WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER IF IT IS DEFINATELY OBAMA AND MCCAIN I WILL NOT VOTE. I WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL HILLARY IS UP THERE AGAIN OR SOMEONE THAT IS WORTH MY VOTE IS UP THERE FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENCY. YOU ALL CAN COUNT ON THAT.

Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 5, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Oregon you are so cute…lol did you see the jury that acquitted OJ??? They were more your peers than his. And what are you saying that some white people don’t vote for people just because they are white?? And notice that I said some because in both instances there are people who do not vote on just this basis. That is the world that we live in. but for the record all of the black people in the united states couldn’t have put him where he is now. Just as Hilary could not have gotten the votes that she received on white votes alone. So please again I ask you come correct on not at all.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

OREGON AND NEIL TELL IT ALL, LET IT ALL OUT, SPEAK THAT TRUTH, SO THESE OBAMA DUMMIES CAN SEE WHAT THEY ALL VOTED FOR. A LOSER!!! SOMEONE THAT IS NOT GOING TO DO CRAP FOR OUR USA!!! JUST TO ONLY BRING IT DOWN, DOWN TO THE GROUND!!!!

Posted by: WHITE POWER | June 5, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

obamagurl white people vote for the best candidate, not because of color. look a black nominee has never been up there before…hmm…what does that tell you there???….the only black nominee that is up there now is obama, what is he actually going to do for our usa??? not a damn thing, let him lead everyone of you people on with his lies just to get your votes, let him get in the white house and all of you black obama voters will see how a true black man works.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

WHY SHOULD THE USA VOTE A BLACK PERSON FOR PRESIDENT TO BEGIN WITH??? WE NEVER HAD ONE IN THERE YET. SO LETS SEE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE WORTHLESS AND MEANINGLESS. THEY WILL DO NOTHING FOR OUR COUNTRY EXCEPT BRING MORE INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE GOVERNMENT AND EVERYTHING. WE DONT NEED THEM IN THERE. THERE IS ENOUGH THAT THEY ARE RUINING NOW IN THIS WORLD. THE WHITE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN TO SHREADS, IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS THE WHITE POPULATION IS GOING TO BE NOTHING. BECAUSE THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD BY THEN ARE GOING TO BE MIX BREEDS. PATHETIC ISNT IT. AND GUESS WHAT THE WHITE MAN WONT STAND UP TO THEM, BECAUSE THE BLACK MAN YELLS RACISM. BUT IT IS OKAY FOR THE BLACK TO DO ALL THIS SH*T TO THE WHITE AND NOTHING IS SUPPOSE TO BE SAID. WANNA KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THE BLACK WILL CALL IT RACISM. IF ANYONE IS RACIST IT IS THE BLACKS, NOT THE WHITES. WE JUST KNOW HOW AND WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. AND THAT IS NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, ASSAULT, DRUGS, AND THEY ARE WORTHLESS HUMAN BEINGS. NOTHING GOOD TO BRING TO THIS WORLD AT ALL. THE AFRICANS OVER IN AFRICA DONT CONSIDER THE BLACKS OVER HERE IN THE USA AFRICAN AMERICANS, THE AFRICANS CALL THE BLACKS OVER HERE N*GGERS. THAT IS WHAT THE AFRICANS CONSIDER THEM. THE AFRICANS DONT EVEN LIKE THE BLACKS OVER HERE AT ALL BECAUSE OF HOW AND WHAT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT. SO, WHY VOTE FOR A BLACK PERSON TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW ONE THING MY VOTE DID NOT GO TO OBAMA THE LOSER. IT WENT STRAIGHT TO HILLARY CLINTON AND ALWAYS WILL!!

Posted by: CHARMED | June 5, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

The phenomenon, the icon of democracy and good governance, dumped his one time mentor, Alice Palmer to grab a senate seat in Illinois, got his fellow democratic contenders’ names struck off from the ballot in Chicago, allowed Exelon to get away from being held responsible even after repeated radioactive spillage, dumped his grandmother to divert attention of people from race issue, used Jeremiah Wright and the Trinity Church for decades to build a political base for himself and then dumped him when he became a political hot potato, dumped Father Pfleger when things came out to light after 20 years, now he decides to severe his association with his church. The moral compass remained unmoved for this man for decades till things came to light, because he thinks he has got a clear sight to the White House. He used the liberation of Nazi concentration camps in Germany to impress people with his lineage. Then, as people came out with the truth, Auschwitz became Buchenwald and the uncle became a great-uncle! He has already started adding nuances to his initial rhetoric of meeting disputed world leaders from Iran and other countries! The caucuses were managed to gain advanatges in delegate count, a great example is the difference in the polling results in the primaries and caucus in the state of Washington. Friendly media with similar lobbying interests, were used to make a mockery of a fellow democratic contender. The script of a popular TV serial, “The West Wing” was written with the help of his campaign strategist, that almost depicts this campaign, with the aim of brain-washing potential voters to align with the campaign goals. This is an example of change at its best for the phenomenon. Does it indicate what will happen to his key campaign messages of doing away with old style Washington Politics and “Change we can”?
We saw a couple of things clearly today. The DNC robbed 1.7 million people of their votes in Florida and 600K in Michigan. And we also saw very clearly today that Barack Obama hates white people. Church is supposed to be a place where one reflects on how we are all the same.
I’m a Catholic, but why the Diocese of Chicago puts up with that idiot Pfleger is a mystery. He doesn’t deserve the respect I would give most who serve God. He’s an idiot, a showman, and he has no place in a church. There is still power in numbers. Obama didn’t have the good sense to leave that mess on his own. He had to have handlers tell him it was hurting his chances of lying his way into the WH. But, we got to see it for what it is. NoBama.
It is politics as usual! Who do you think is supporting him? Again, Obama shows it today, he did want the our leaders (Nancy, Dean, etc) ask him do….quit his church. He did ask he was told….he is not a leader but a follower. A leader would have quit that church many years ago not when he is told.

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

I was a daily listener of Warren Balentine, Michele Basiden, and other black talk radio shows before Obama. I was all into the movement of help black people achieve in America. Most of these black talk radio hosts would talked about the New World Order and the impact on BLACK and all AMERICA, the need to close our border, no to same sex marriage, AID, no free pass for legal immigrants. Months after Obama came to town, these topics were no longer important to the black community. It was all about hating the Clintons, what the white done to us, getting pay, putting the first black man in office, protecting Obama because white people my hurt him, etc. It was like the agenda of the black people had changed overnight. Before Obama, most of our Black’s views were in line with most White American. For once I felt, we (black and white people) were coming together to build a better America. Yes, we still have some major racial problems to work on but we were working together for the good the America. Now, I feel like we are at the beginning of our work instead of the middle to the end. What happen? Obama! And, no it was not the Clintons because the change on black talk radios started before Bill made his fair tale statement. I strongly believe that all of the black leaders got together and discussed how to push message of this operation Obama push effort, staring with the black talk radio shows down to the black churches. We all being played. Obama has NOT thrown the black people, his church, and the pastors. White voters must understand the strategy that is being placed here. Black people, Obama’s church, and the pastors all understand that Obama needs the white voters to win. And, they are willing accept any things Obama needs to do win. If you listen to black talk radios, the black people are being told to be quiet and let Obama do what he needs to do. And, to keep their focus on the bigger prize which is the White House. So if Obama needs to throw the black, his church, and the pastors under the bus it is okay because they know he does not mean it. Obama needs to do it for now so the white people can feel okay to release their votes. We are being played. Watch you will not hear any more from his old pastor, the new crazy white pastor, or his black supporters nor will you see a drop in his black supporters for leaving his church. They will be awarded once Obama get into the White House with policies in favor of their needs.BHO (Bone Headed Obama) is a WIMP, chameleon, hypocrite and WOLF in Sheeps’ skin. Here are some of BHO’s lies, misjudgments, boneheaded decisions and contradictions.
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• He claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO was not mad about Wright’s anti-American, racist rants until a few days back. But what made him mad is that his lack of credibility was exposed by Mr. Wright when he said “Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls,”
• BHO Says he is PRO-LIFE, but also said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
• He is TOUGH enough to throw his grand mother under the bus, but he neither has GUTS to repudiate his anti-American, racist pastor nor has GUTS to vote NO to stop Adult Porn Shops from opening up next to our children’s schools.
• BHO wants us to BELIEVES in CHANGE, but the kind of CHANGE he is really talking about is to go down to his knees to negotiate unconditionally to Iran’s Ahmadinejad, Hamas and other terrorist groups.
• BHO claims to be ‘TRUE’, but he is full of lies like He never opposed hand guns, He never heard Mr. Wright making the incendiary quotes, He never said – he will not wear flag lapel pin, He is against NAFTA but had his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn’t really mean what he said about NAFTA and the list goes on and on
• BHO took 20 years to finally accept that his pastor is an anti-American. BHO is an opportunistic liar.
• BHO Claims to be a PATRIOT, but refuses to wear flag lapel pin and his wife Michelle says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and America is a mean country
• BHO claims to be the better Commander-in-Chief, but how can he get that position if he can not even obtain the Top Security Clearance?
• BHO says WORDs MATTER, but is always short of words and steals them from others and constantly demands the people whom he insults to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
• He says he is Washington Outsider, but admitted in the debate that his campaign played negative tactics against Clinton in PA. BHO has more Washington Insiders endorsing him thus OWEs to them something that will MAKE HIM BIGGEST WASHINGTON INSIDER.
THERE’S A CONNIVANCE AND HYPOCRICY INVOLVED IN HIS DEFECTION. WE CANNOT TRUST THE BLACK COMMUNITY… WE CANNOT TRUST OBAMA… THEY’RE ALL FOR SELFISH REASONS… THAT’S WHY GOD WILL NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN…OBAMA WILL NEVER WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION….GOD WILL NOT LET UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BE RULED BY BLACK HYPOCRITES. THEY WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA HOWEVER BAD HIS RESUME, HOWEVER DIRTY HIS WAYS TO THE TOP AND HOWEVER BAD HIS ASSOCIATIONS WITH DANGEROUS PEOPLE INCLUDING THE ENEMIES OF THE STATE BECAUSE OBAMA IS THEIR OWN KIND. THEY ARE TOO DESPERATE TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN KIND IN THE HIGHEST OFFICE BECAUSE THEIR CAUSE IS TOO SELFISH. IF AA RULES, UNITED STATES WILL BE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY BECAUSE AAs IN GENERAL ARE LIKE WILD ANIMALS UNRULY BY NATURE AND THAT’S A FACT. NOW, UNDERSTAND WHY THE WHITES AND OTHER RACES ARE TOO AFRAID TO LIVE IN ONE COMMUNITY WITH THE AAs.
HILLARY 2009-2012. GO HILLARY!!!!

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

boy it is really quiet in here now.
what happened?
no more comments to speak?
oh, i guess obamagurl is a little pissed right now.
her man OBAMA is being ditched on.
but thats is okay.
I voted for HILLARY CLINTON.
She is the best there ever will be.
Just so you all know I am a democratic representative for the USA and I voted for Hillary.
Are there any other Hillary supporters out there??
Iam just showing some love to all the Hillary supporters!!!

Posted by: hillary rodham clinton "08" | June 5, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

boy it is really quiet in here now.
what happened?
no more comments to speak?
oh, i guess obamagurl is a little pissed right now.
her man OBAMA is being ditched on.
but thats is okay.
I voted for HILLARY CLINTON.
She is the best there ever will be.
Just so you all know I am a democratic representative for the USA and I voted for Hillary.
Are there any other Hillary supporters out there??
Iam just showing some love to all the Hillary supporters!!!

Posted by: hillary rodham clinton | June 5, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

O believe me Goonies I am black so I know how the Black man works. Secondly for you to speak for your whole race even after reading these comments and to say that they don’t make decisions based on race you just told me a bold face lie and you don’t even know me. How sad. And you are correct there has not been a black candidate to make it this far but now that he has and some white people are put in this newly found position they are showing their stripes. Now we can confirm on what basis some of them vote. You are so foolish it’s laughable. You had one of yours in office for eight years and I believe that he has bought us as low as we can go. But hey he tried right?? Maybe he was showing us how the white man works…lol. And if it were just on black votes why isn’t Jesse Jackson added to the list of our great presidents?? He did run. Omg it’s almost shocking that all of our “black votes” didn’t get him into office. WTF?? What happened there?? It must have been rigged…..lol. Like I said no one in this nation gets anywhere on one demographic of people’s votes. Obama was the best candidate and that’s why he is where he is. It is what it is. Obama in 08

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Why we should’nt be voting for OBAMA?
These 2 reasons speak a lot of his Integrity, Judgement and Core Knowledge of our economic issues aside from Wright, Bitter Comments, Rezko, Ayers, Nafta and Iraq Troop Withdrawal Hypocrycies, diplomacy without preconditions, and many more to mention:
WHY OBAMA HAS UNLIMITED CASHFLOW?
Obama Helped Supporters Get Millions in Illinois State Business http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/comments?type=story&id=4861699
Oprah Winfrey has been giving money to Obama supporters who, in turn contribute back to Obama bank due to contribution limit of $2300.
WHY GAS TAX HOLIDAY FAILED IN ILLINOIS AND WHY OBAMA CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH OUR ECONOMY
OBAMA WAS WRONG ON GAS TAX. HE IS STUPID ON APPLIED ECONOMICS.
http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/politics?type=politicsNews&w1=B7ovpm21IaDoL40ZFnNfGe&w2=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL&src=blogBurst_politicsNews&bbPostId=BCPU7bksptwDCz3q7RHPh1SBUAzSrY29vwGiB3iLrNpLtd9D&bbParentWidgetId=B94DflL2bLsuzDPLZYiSAqaT

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

hillary rodham clinton “08″ | Jun 5, 2008 4:05:23
never do i get pissed. i am just as calm cool and collective as your future president. Its good that you voted for Hilary. and?? what do you want a medal?? i don’t have any of those to give but i will give you kudos. she was a fellow Dem. just not the one we wanted to see in office as our president.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

OBAMAGURL:
SO LET ME CLARIFY IT MORE SPECIFICALLY. I DID NOT STATE A BOLD FACE LIE, I STATED THAT WHITE PEOPLE VOTE NOT BECAUSE OF RACE. I WAS SPEAKING FOR THE WHITES OF THE USA THAT DONT LET RACE GET INVOLVED. I DID NOT STATE THAT I MYSELF DONT LET RACE GET INVOLVED IN MY VOTES, NO DID I??? I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A BLACK PERSON NEVER EVER. AND GUESS WHAT OBAMAGIRL, THAT IS MY CHOICE AND YOU CANT KNOCK ME FOR IT.
SO TALK TO THE BOOTY CUZ THE HAND’S OFF DUTY.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

obamagurl so what are you getting at on you reply to my message that you stated “she is not the one we wanted in as out president” what is that suppose to mean? you mean the africans of the world.
if we americans didnt want her to become the president let me see now that would mean that she would had 0 votes, doesnt it?? i thought so, we want her in there it is just upsetting that baracks people stole it away from the best.

Posted by: hillary rodham clinton "08" | June 5, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Don’t you think this is just the nicest thing. Obama is the best.
June 5 (Bloomberg) — Barack Obama’s campaign is open to paying off some of the more than $20 million in debt accrued by defeated rival Hillary Clinton, a top adviser said.
“Certainly that is something that would be on the table,” the adviser, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, told Bloomberg News reporters and editors yesterday. “Obviously we want to help each other.”
Money for Clinton to retire her campaign debt — $11.4 million of which is owed to herself — may help smooth relations between the two camps following a 16-month primary campaign where the candidates at times exchanged personal attacks. The urgency for Clinton, 60, is she has until the Aug. 25-28 Democratic convention to pay off her $11.4 million personal loan. Otherwise, by law she can recoup no more than $250,000.
“Candidates who win primaries who reach out to the opposition have a much better chance of winning, and candidates who don’t are called losers,” said former Michigan Governor James Blanchard, who co-chaired Clinton’s Michigan campaign. “I would expect Barack Obama is in the process of reaching out.”
Daschle, an Obama campaign co-chairman, said the issue hasn’t yet been discussed with Clinton’s staff.
McCain’s Law
The rule banning Clinton from paying herself back after the nominating convention is part of a 2002 campaign-finance law co- sponsored by Obama’s Republican rival for the presidency, Senator John McCain of Arizona. The law had several provisions to make it more difficult for people to finance their own campaigns.
Clinton has until the convention “to raise money to retire the loan or else she will have made an $11 million contribution to her campaign,” former Federal Election Commission Chairman Michael Toner said.
Obama, 46, an Illinois senator, is barred by federal law from using his own treasury to pay off Clinton’s debts. He could host a fundraiser for the New York senator or ask some of his 1.5 million donors to help her out.
It’s not unusual for a winner to help a vanquished rival retire campaign debts. Clinton backers helped former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack after he dropped out of the race last year. And McCain’s supporters gave to Kansas Senator Sam Brownback, a failed Republican candidate.
In both of those cases, the debts involved were far smaller than Clinton’s. Vilsack had just over $300,000 in debt at the end of March 2007. Brownback had $33,546 in debt at the end of last year.
`The Reality’
“The reality is she’s going to go out there and ask people to help pay off her debt,” said former FEC General Counsel Larry Noble. “She is going to have to go to new donors, most likely people who supported Obama and other candidates, and get them to contribute.”
Political consultants say that the money is more likely to come from some of the 28,000 contributors who have given Obama the maximum $2,300 donation rather than his smaller donors.
Clinton’s debt also included $9.5 million in unpaid bills to vendors and consultants at the end of April, according to FEC records. More than of half, $4.8 million, was owed to the firm of Mark Penn, who stepped aside as her campaign’s chief strategist under criticism in April for backing a trade deal with Colombia that Clinton opposed.
Unlike the rules for her personal loan, Clinton can tap her Senate campaign account to pay off the vendor debts. While the account had $277,480 as of March 31, she could ask the donors who gave her $23 million for the general election if they would be willing to re-designate that money for her 2012 Senate re- election campaign. That would give her more than enough cash to repay everyone but herself.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

obamagurl:
yeah those black men are doint there best down there in the prisons and jails, aint they while they are serving there times for the all the crimes that they got caught for.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: goonies | June 5, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

No Goonies you misunderstood. that means that she would have won.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

that comment there is just words lets see if he actually does it. Lets see if he has the actual ass to back up his promises.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.

Posted by: hillary rodham clinton "08" | June 5, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

I apologize i mean hillary rodham clinton “08″ that means she would have won. and goonies why are you still talking to me?? its obvious that you do not have anything intelligent and i don’t feel like stooping any lower to address you. there are all sorts of people in jail there are blacks and whites and hispanics and so on. there are also black men that work and run those same prisons. so what are you saying??

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Obama flip-flops in almost all his positions. Remember, Isreal, Nafta and Iraq Troop Withdrawal? He shouldn’t be trusted on any promises he makes.

Posted by: neil1785 | June 5, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

hillary rodham clinton “08″
and if he does then what?? you will still look at him in the same light.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

SO YOU ARE STATING THAT IT IS TRUE THAT OBAMA’S PEOPLE STOLE HILLARY’S VOTES, THAT SHE WOULD HAVE WON. AND JUST SO YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF I COPIED WHAT BOTH OF US WROTE TO EACH OTHER. MY COMMENTS ARE STRAIGHT AND TO THE POINT STRAIGHT TO YOU. SO NOW WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT YOU THIEF OF A LIER BARACK OBAMA. YOU STATED IT YOURSELF FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU WILL THINK OF A QUICK LIE TO CLEAR IT UP, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW YOU ALL ARE.
never do i get pissed. i am just as calm cool and collective as your future president. Its good that you voted for Hilary. and?? what do you want a medal?? i don’t have any of those to give but i will give you kudos. she was a fellow Dem. just not the one we wanted to see in office as our president.
Posted by: ObamaGurl | Jun 5, 2008 4:11:51 PM
obamagurl so what are you getting at on you reply to my message that you stated “she is not the one we wanted in as out president” what is that suppose to mean? you mean the africans of the world.
if we americans didnt want her to become the president let me see now that would mean that she would had 0 votes, doesnt it?? i thought so, we want her in there it is just upsetting that baracks people stole it away from the best.
Posted by: hillary rodham clinton “08″ | Jun 5, 2008 4:18:36 PM
No Goonies you misunderstood. that means that she would have won.
Posted by: ObamaGurl | Jun 5, 2008 4:22:21 PM

Posted by: hillary rodham clinton "08" | June 5, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

neil1785
who should be trusted?? I am curious to know

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

YEAH CROOKED ONES, THE KIND OF ONES THAT RAPE OUR WOMEN IN THE FEMALE DETENTION CENTERS AND PRISONS AND JAILS. SO DONT EVEN TALK TO ME OR EVEN GO THERE ABOUT THE PRISON STUFF, I HAVE BEEN IN THEM PLACES TO KNOW AND HAVE BEEN RAPED BY YOUR KIND AND HE IS SUPPOSE TO BE A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER IN THERE. YEAH AND THERE IS MORE OF YOUR KIND IN THERE AS CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS DOING IT TO THE FEMALES ALL THE TIME, SO DONT TRY TO TALK TO ME TO TRY TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT I THINK OF YOU ALL. BECAUSE THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

HRC 08
please show me my lie?? i said he won. did he not?? who says that he stole her votes?? were the votes for her?? did they have her name on them?? because if that were the case then that would be wrong.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

YOU STATED TWO TIME IN YOUR COMMENTS TO ME THAT SHE WOULD HAVE WON. NOT ONE TIME BUT TWO TIMES YOU PUT IN THERE SHE WOULD HAVE WON. SO YOU ARE STATING THAT SHE WOULD HAVE WON IF OBAMA’S PEOPLE DIDNT STEAL IT ALL AWAY. BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LAST THING THAT I STATED IN THE COMMENT ABOVE, THEN THAT IS WHEN YOU REPLIED YEAH THAT SHE WOULD HAVE WON.
NEVERMIND YOU DONT UNDERSTAND AT ALL. ITS IN BLACK AND WHITE UP THERE YOU JUST HAVE TO COMPREHEND IT.

Posted by: HRC 08 | June 5, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

“no coons for 2008″
Shyt is hitting the fans now.

Posted by: no coons for 2008 | June 5, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

ALL YOU BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO GO BACK TO AFRICA WHERE YOU ALL BELONG. WE DONT WANT YOU HERE. YOU ALL DONT LIKE OUR COUNTRY SO GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY WHERE YOU ALL BELONG, YOU BUNCH OF HATERZ!!

Posted by: goonies | June 5, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

you’ve been in Jail Goonies?? thats crazy. and i am sorry. i am supposed to take your word for the whole rape thing?? well if that did happen to you that is unfortunate. i wouldn’t wish that type of thing on my worst enemy. however, the fact still remains that rape is not a black crime or a white crime. it is a crime committed by sick people. who should be punished. so i am sorry if that has shaped your opinion of black people in general.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

OH DONT FEEL SORRY FOR ME, I DONT NEED YOUR PITY. NEVER HAD NEVER WILL. YEAH ITS A CRIME THAT SICK PEOPLE COMMIT BUT ITS A SHAME THAT WHEN IT COMES TO COURT OR BEFORE COURT YOUR KIND ALL YELL RACISM, WHEN ITS A WHITE PLAINTIFF AGAINST A BLACK DEFENDANT OR ITS A HATE CRIME, THE WHITES ARE JUST HATING ON US BLACKS, THATS WHAT THEY ALL YELL AND THAT IS WHY A LOT OF WHITES DISLIKE THE BLACKS. BEEN THERE SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL. ITS JUST SICKENING THAT THE SCHOOLS TODAY LET THE INTERACIAL STUFF OCCUR, WHEN THE BIBLE SPEAKS THAT EVERYONE IS SUPPOSE TO STAY WITH THERE OWN COLOR AND OPPOSITE SEXES ARE SUPPOSE TO GET MARRIED AND BE SEXUAL WITH EACH OTHER, NOT THE SAME SEX STUFF. BUT THAT IS OKAY BECAUSE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS ON HIS WAY AND HE WILL SHOW EVERYONE ON THIS WORLD WHO WILL BE IN HEAVEN AND WHO IS GOING TO BE DAMNED AND SENT TO HELL FOREVER. WE ALL KNOW WHO IT WILL BE.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

I don’t understand Goonies. We were born here. My parents are not immigrants. None of my family as with many other African Americans knows anyone who was on Ellis Island. Do you. Can you say the same?? I doubt it.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

(I sure would like to know who wrote this one! They deserve a HUGE pat on the
back!)
I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB… AND I HAVE TO AGREE 100%
Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my
taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get
that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no
problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who don’t have to pass a urine test. Shouldn’t one have to
pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it
for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting
on their A$$, doing drugs, while I work…Can you imagine how much money the st
ate would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance
check? Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don’t. Hope you all
will pass it along, though .
Something has to change in this country — and soon

Posted by: HELLO ALL | June 5, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

So Goonies can you do me a favor and tie all of this into Obama and his politics please?? the reason, other than the fact that he is Black, that he should not be president? o and i don’t pity you. i just said that it was unfortunate.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

DONT GET ME STARTED NOW WITH THE WELFARE THING. BECAUSE 99.9% OF THE FEMALE BLACKS OF THIS USA GETS AWAY WITH MURDER WITH THIS WELFARE STUFF. NOW LET A WHITE PERSON WITH A WHITE CHILD GO UP AND APPLY AND THEY GET 10 BUCKS FOR CASH ASSISTANCE A MONTH TO SUPPORT THERE CHILD AND SELF WHILE THE MOTHER MAKES 7.00 AN HOUR FOR A 40 HOUR A WEEK JOB. SO YOU TELL ME I STAND IN LINE AT THE GROCERY STORES WHILE A WOMAN ON WELFARE GETS ABOUT 500.00 BUCKS IN GROCERIES AND PAYS FOR IT WITH HER INDEPENDANCE CARD MEANWHILE HER HUSBAND WORK FOR THE US POSTAL OFFICE MAKING BANK. WELFARE NEEDS TO CRACK MORE DOWN ON THIS STUFF. YEAH THEY PASSED A LAW THAT PEOPLE CAN ONLY GET CASH AND FOOD STAMP ASSISTANCE FOR 5 YEARS AND THATS IT. BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE MONEY THEY ALL OWE BACK FOR WORKING THE SYSTEMS. WHEN THE REAL PEOPLE NEED THE HELP THEY DONT GET IT BUT LET A BLACK PERSON OR A WHITE GIRL WITH A MIXED BABY GO UP THERE AND THEY GET IT IN A HEARTBEAT. I FIND IT VERY SICKNING.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

ALL OF YOUR KINDS ANCESTORS. SO THAT IS WHERE YOU ALL BELONG, SORRY TO SAY.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

I AM JUST STATING THAT THIS IS HOW THE BLACKS ARE, AND NOW THERE MIGHT BE A BLACK PRESIDENT LOOKING OVER OUR USA AND I AM JUST STATING THAT HE IS FROM THE BLACK CULTURE AND ALL OF THE STUFF THAT THE BLACKS DO IS IN HIS BLOOD. SO THAT MEANS THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO DISCRIMINATE ON HIS ON COLOR SO THAT MEANS THAT THE BLACKS ARE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH MORE THAN JUST MURDER NOW, AND OUR COUNTRY WILL GO TO SHREDS FAST.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

PEACE AND IM OUT.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 5, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Goonies I was thinking it but you just confirmed it. You are Ignorant. I think you need to run the stats on that welfare thing one more time. You talk about making someone being sick. I can’t believe you have the right to vote. Dangerous, but this is America. Another thing I have never been to jail. And don’t plan on going. I am an upstanding citizen unlike you. As I am sure that you were no political prisoner. That says something about me as a black woman. But you have been to jail. What does it say about you as a white man?? Does that mean that all white men are criminals?? I don’t think so. just you.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

obamagurl
Did you take the time to really read those statements? What I have a problem with is:
1)”I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”
2)”I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of greivance and ANIMOSITY against my mother’s race.”
The one that troubles me most is this one (perhaps you missed it):
“I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION”
In case you are trying to imply that I might be racist, let me assure you, the color or someone’s skin has nothing to do with what is most important to me, character.
I am from Iowa (yeah the mostly “white” state who gave Obama the victory there. When I was a child, one of my closest friends was a black girl. I visited her house many times.
Lastly, I have no problem voting for a black person for President. If and when there is one who is worthy of running this Country. Obama, who let me remind you, is half white, is just not that person. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. His value system is skewed.

Posted by: Cathrine | June 5, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

HRC 08
you obviously don’t understand i was simply saying that if she was suppossed to win she would have. as far as for stealing votes i do not agree with that. if you don’t get that then i do not know what to tell you.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Cathrine i don’t believe that it is me that you need to remind. and yes i did read the statements. and its good to know that you had a black friend growing up. but what i was saying is that feeling that he felt for his mom is a common feeling shared with a lot of biracial children growing up. then as they learn more they see things differently. Also the headlines don’t say that he will be the first half white president nom. he would be the first african american. read in to that what you want.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

So just because that is what the headlines read, that makes it a correct statement?
I’m just tired of people ignoring the fact the he is not just a “black” man, but that half of him is white. (white mother + black father= half and half)
What is so historical in that? Is it because we have never had a presidential candidate who has black blood in him?

Posted by: Cathrine | June 5, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Oh and to address the Muslim Statement and?? what else did it say after that?? what did it say before that?? again you are entitled to your opinion. but what point were you trying to get accross??

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Obama is the bastard son of a 19-year old whore and a whore chaser. She couldn’t keep ‘em closed and he couldn’t keep it zipped. A disgrace that a woman like that might have given birth to our party’s nominee. Sad. Very sad.

Posted by: The General | June 5, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Why is this bastard son of a whore black anyway? He was conceived out of wedlock to a white woman – what makes him black the sperm donor? If that’s the case we need to rewrite a lot of women’s rights if race is determined by a deadbeat father.

Posted by: The General | June 5, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

I believe thats it Cathrine. However, what does he consider himself. he doesn’t appear to be disputing the title. he stil acknowledges his mother and his grandmother. he just views himself as an african american man. like i sad Cathrine not everyone checks the “other” box. it is what it is.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

FIRST OFF, WHY DID MY SMALL TRUCK GET 27 MILES PER GALLON A YEAR AGO AND NOW IT ONLY GETS ABOUT 20? I THINK THAT THE OIL COMPANYS ARE IN CAHOOTS WITH THIS LYING OIL RICH ADMINASTRATION! THE GAS WE ARE PAYING SO MUCH FOR IS DELUTED SO WE HAVE TO USE MORE!!! AS FOR OBAMA, HOW CAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTE FOR A ISLOMIC RADICAL WHILE OUR SOILDERS ARE DYING EVERYDAY FIGHTING THOSE PEOPLE? NEVER MIND THE RACIEL PART, WHAT ABOUT THE RELIGOUS FACTS ABOUT OBAMA? ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SO BLIND OR ARE THEY JUST SIMPLY STUPID? COMMON PEOPLE!!! WHAT IS GOING ON???? FIRST THEY PUT TWO LIFE LONG OIL MEN IN OFFICE AND THEN THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY IN THE LAST DAYS OF THE ADMINISTRATION THE GAS PRICES ARE SO HIGH?? THESE ASSHOLES ARE MILKING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR ALL THEY CAN!!! THEY SHOULD BOTH BE HUNG!! I PERSONALLY AM ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SO STUCK ON THEMSELVES THEY CANNOT SEE PAST THERE OWN NOSES!!!

Posted by: bob | June 5, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

General,
people choose who they want to culturally identify with. i don’t see to many White people calling him a white man. do you see him as a white man? I wonder if the people of at Harvard viewed him as a white man?? i doubt it. culturally he identifies with african americans. but he is an american never the less and thus he identifies with all people in general. why fault him for that?? does it bother you that the world considers him to be black or that your constitution sees him as black?? as matter of fact thats your answer. he is black because the constitution says so. the founding fathers say so.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Well, it’s difficult to understand how someone abandoned by a black father and raised by whites became so anti-white (read the comments about “whites” and even his own mother is his book). He has adopted the black traditions and practices and it doesn’t make sense. He’s half white, but seems to have forgotten that part of him – the part by the way that raised him and gave him the life that he has today. Not the race that abandoned him.

Posted by: The General | June 5, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

But why are they fighting them bob?? They are soldiers and they follow orders. Hoping that it is for the good of someone or something. But that is not always the case. Why are we in Iraq all these years later? What happened to Osama?? Our main objective. Why do you dislike Muslims?? Is it because their ideas are different from your own?? We have to question some of these things that we have been conditioned to believe. I personally am not a Muslim but I don’t pass judgment on them because I am not. I could have sworn that people were killed, raped, tortured and so on in the name of Christianity. please tell me if i am wrong. An “Islomic Radical”. come on Bob. please.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Obama is just few years younger than me, he missed the turbulence of the ’60s that I saw – he missed the hatred blacks had towards whites and whites towards blacks. I think he’s different, but old wounds will never heal. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton come from the old school preaching the hatred of a time that has past and trying to keep it alive to vent their own anger. I am white and I feel the same toward them. They have robbed me, taken from me and society and I am not to blame for their lot in life, but I resent them like they resent me. My kids grew up in integrated schools and neighborhoods. They are color blind and in the modern world race makes no difference. In my world it does because of what I have seen. Eventually, the Jakcsons, Sharptons and myself will be gone and the world will be better. Until then I hold Obama responsible for the sins of the fathers. There will be no unity, no common ground as long as the old black mentality prevails. When his fixes the people he associates with and the culture he adores and fixes the problems their first instead of wanting to tax me to give more to them I will not support him and there will be no peace.

Posted by: Not Yet | June 5, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

He is not anti white. he simply wrote about feelings he encountered growing up as a Biracial male in America. have you read some of these comments?? now take that and apply that to a face to face situation. as you can see there are a lot of white people who are not as accepting. like i said when they look at him they do not see a white man or even a biracial man. you do not know what he had to endure growing up as a child. having a white mother and having people of her race treating him and those who look like him like everything but a child of God. but on the other hand you find people who have been through what you have been through first hand. they are accepting and not judging. you can relate to them and thus you identify with them. i am not saying that every white person he ever encountered treated him in such a way. but that had to have hurt and been a little confusing. so because he struggled with that as a child growing up. and because he was honest about that you want to fault him for that? I don’t understand.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

I fault him for sympathizing with the old thinking and not saying “blacks” and black families need to change. Instead he is telling black single mother who got pregnant out of wedlock that you child could be me. It’s the wrong message. We can no longer afford a society when the haves have to take care of the have-nots. Even the “haves” no are feeling the pain of this economy. We will collapse unless we are take care of ourselves. That should be his message. Not the Robin Hood mentaility. It reinforces what I think about how his experiences shaped him. In the mold of those that came before and not that of MLK, but of Jesse Jackson and Sharpton. MLK was a one of a kind. That should be Obama’s message.

Posted by: Not Yet | June 5, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Not yet,
i think we can see that from your comment and the comments of others he did not miss the hatred of blacks. it is alive and well and its funny that some people thought that it went away. “old Black Mentality” are you serious??? listen to yourself. how do you and others like you make statments like that and see wrong in someone else?? check yourself first. obviously that old white mentality is alive and well. so i guess that “old Black Mentality” will die when yours does which is never because others like you breed it in their kids. its good that your kids are not closet racist like their mom. i’m sorry i just respect the outright racist a little more. also did you know that there are more white women on welfare than any other race in america?? feel free to pull the stats on that. so you pay to feed your own as well. i pay to feed them to. and i don’t mind either. By the grace of God i have never received any type of aid. not even for school. i went to private school. My mom had to buy my books unlike the ones that are given to your children i’m sure. so i guess someone else is getting the bill for that. anyway my point is we pay to help America sustain America not black people, not white people but everyone here. so as far as the jackson’s and sharpton’s taking from you. i doubt it.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Attention Hillary Supporters…You DO have a CHOICE! The New American Independent Party is neither an independent body or the standard political party. We are a bit of a hybrid. We don’t call ourselves independent. We are more like a team or a movement. We generally recruit independent candidates, not from within the party. That way we get new ideas and new energy. These independent candidates do need to share many of our basic platform views. We do differ with both the Republican and Democratic parties on many levels. But, we also connect to many of those Reagan Democrats, now Hillary Democrats and Lou Dobbs independents that have been left behind by both major parties.We represent all of those folks that are being forgotten. The American middle class is under assault. We are simply provide another option for folks not happy with the current choices. You don’t have a problem with giving voters another option do you?So, we are not about to turn our backs on all of these Reagan Democrats that are finally had enough of the Democratic party. A strong effort has already begun within our party to draft a Hillary Clinton / Lou Dobbs ticket in 2012.And if you think that this could never happen or that Lou Dobbs would not run with Hillary Clinton then you had better think again. But, 2012 is a long ways off and we could field any ticket by that time. If we attract candidates from the two major parties then they will be expected to address many of the concerns of the NAIP. And those showning interest thus far have indeed shown a willingness to tackle our concerns. But, at the same time that will not be expected to be a puppet for the NAIP.

Posted by: You Do Have a Choice | June 5, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Attention Hillary Supporters…You DO have a CHOICE! The New American Independent Party is neither an independent body or the standard political party. We are a bit of a hybrid. We don’t call ourselves independent. We are more like a team or a movement. We generally recruit independent candidates, not from within the party. That way we get new ideas and new energy. These independent candidates do need to share many of our basic platform views. We do differ with both the Republican and Democratic parties on many levels. But, we also connect to many of those Reagan Democrats, now Hillary Democrats and Lou Dobbs independents that have been left behind by both major parties.We represent all of those folks that are being forgotten. The American middle class is under assault. We are simply provide another option for folks not happy with the current choices. You don’t have a problem with giving voters another option do you?So, we are not about to turn our backs on all of these Reagan Democrats that are finally had enough of the Democratic party. A strong effort has already begun within our party to draft a Hillary Clinton / Lou Dobbs ticket in 2012.And if you think that this could never happen or that Lou Dobbs would not run with Hillary Clinton then you had better think again. But, 2012 is a long ways off and we could field any ticket by that time. If we attract candidates from the two major parties then they will be expected to address many of the concerns of the NAIP. And those showning interest thus far have indeed shown a willingness to tackle our concerns. But, at the same time that will not be expected to be a puppet for the NAIP.

Posted by: You Do Have a Choice | June 5, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Who are you to say black families need to change?? are you a black family?? how many of them do you know. are do you get all of your info from TV. i don’t know enough about white families to make those kinds of statements. but if i were to go off of tv. you molest children especially your own, you are all on Meth. Rather than leaving you when you are pregnant your men leave when the kids are a little older. and white women please don’t start looking old because you will be traded in for a new model, in reality you are all broke but you just wear it well. o yeah and you are all confused and easily lead astray. you don’t have a since of family. i could go on and on but that doesn’t make any of what i said true. and i choose to only say things that are for fear of sounding ignorant. but obviously that is not added to your list of worries.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 5, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

hillarydems.com
A website/blog by none other than campaign manager Maggie Williams…
Check it out

Posted by: You DO Have a Choice | June 5, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Hillary’s supporters should unite NOW and and PROMISE to vote for McCain.
Remember, if McCain is the President, Hillary will be in a powerful cabinet position. She will implemrent what she stands for. McCain will support her.
We will never miss her leadership then.
PLEASE, Hillary Democrats, VOTE FOR MCCAIN, if you want Hillary in power.

Posted by: Jkan | June 5, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

Im a white male i like most races i like black women, I wish they whould loose a little weight, and date more white guys, i think they are racist im not sure. I like asian people and respect their culture. and mexican are a hard working people.

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Twin Tiger If you want a free plane ticket to wherever country your from just drop by the local I.N.S. office. since obama wont make it the white house without hillary, you could preplan your trip

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Twin Tiger If you want a free plane ticket to wherever country your from just drop by the local I.N.S. office. since obama wont make it the white house without hillary, you could preplan your trip

Posted by: oregon | June 5, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Hillary’s sense of entitlement was a turn-off from the beginning all the way to the end. She and Bill felt they just HAD to get back into the White House and they deserved it. I don’t think so…. Hillary, you need to go back to NY and be their senator just like you said you wanted.

Posted by: vkrc | June 5, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

What crap! This analysis is so simplistic it’s sickening. Gender had a great deal to do with this election…so did the DNC’s lack of leadership. Why favor Iowa and New Hampshire and punish Florida and Michigan—they’re not delinquents! The primary process is SERIOUSLY flawed…in some cases (caucuses) total anarchy. And then there’s the issue of republicans voting in the democratic primaries. I think we should just do what the English do…elect our representatives and let them choose the prime minister. That would ensure that we have someone with experience at the helm.

Posted by: RA Buck | June 6, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Obama rules! Except when he spoke to AIPAC, the parallel government. I invite all Hillary supporters to go out and have a beer with the Obama supporters. Hillary lost because she said she was the top-dog (I am in it to win it). AIPAC is top-dog and will send you to war to fight Israel’s Zionist expansionist policies. You’re just a peon in a game larger than you ever thought. Dog on!

Posted by: anti-corporate-fascism | June 6, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am

In my opinion… on policies there is little difference between Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama. But there were big disticntions in other important areas.
Character vs Lack of Character – Point Obama
Effective Campaign Strategy – Point Obama
Change vs the Establishment – Point Obama
Trust vs Untrustworthy – Point Obama
Negative vs Positive – Point Obama
Playing the Gender card vs Playing the Race card – Point Obama (Obama didn’t use his race as an issue, where Clinton cries sexism)
Politician vs A Better Human Being – Point Obama
Sen. Clinton is a better politician – and that’s not a compliment…

Posted by: Bruce | June 6, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

OBAMAGURL:
JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT I AM STATING THAT I AM A FEMALE AND NOT A MALE. WHY WOULD I TELL YOU ABOUT FEMALE INSTITUTIONS FOR. I WAS FRAMED BY A BLACK COP TOO JUST SO YOU KNOW. I AM NOT ARGUING ANYMORE ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT BLACKS, BUT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM COMING FROM WITH THAT THEY ARE ALL CROOKED AND SNEAKY. WHETHER THEY ARE HIGH AUTHORITY OR JUST REGULAR MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE.

Posted by: GOONIES | June 6, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR 2008
who here feels that this stinks that hillary is not winning right now???
Let me know, you thoughts and feelings about this whole thing!!!

Posted by: CHARMED | June 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Who is this goonies clown? White people SUCK. They are serial killers and they produce babies with thier family members. You need to give it up!!! All the crazy post menapausal women that are mad because HRC lost, take your vote to mccain, we don’t want you!!! Everyone is so depressed because a smart, carasmatic Senator with a law degree is going to be our next president. The fool talking about black people and welfare, come on..there are more white americans in this country, you guys really have the monopoly on the public assistance program, and for the crack about our ancestors, intelligent black people laugh in your face with that silly talk from the 1920′s that has NO PLACE in this world at this time. You are sadly dissolusioned that white’s are smarter and better and all that old school stuff. Put yourself out of your misery. FOR ALL YOU DISGRUNTELED WHITE PEOPLE THAT CAN’T STAND THE THOUGHT OF YOUR NEXT PRESEDENT BEING BLACK, BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO WIN, PUT A BULLET IN YOUR HEAD, HANG YOURSELF OR TAKE SOME POISON. THE WORLD IS CHANGING, THIS IS NOT THE 60′S GET ON BOARD OR GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!

Posted by: Denise from TX | June 6, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Who is this goonies clown? White people SUCK. They are serial killers and they produce babies with thier family members. You need to give it up!!! All the crazy post menapausal women that are mad because HRC lost, take your vote to mccain, we don’t want you!!! Everyone is so depressed because a smart, carasmatic Senator with a law degree is going to be our next president. The fool talking about black people and welfare, come on..there are more white americans in this country, you guys really have the monopoly on the public assistance program, and for the crack about our ancestors, intelligent black people laugh in your face with that silly talk from the 1920′s that has NO PLACE in this world at this time. You are sadly dissolusioned that white’s are smarter and better and all that old school stuff. Put yourself out of your misery. FOR ALL YOU DISGRUNTELED WHITE PEOPLE THAT CAN’T STAND THE THOUGHT OF YOUR NEXT PRESEDENT BEING BLACK, BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO WIN, PUT A BULLET IN YOUR HEAD, HANG YOURSELF OR TAKE SOME POISON. THE WORLD IS CHANGING, THIS IS NOT THE 60′S GET ON BOARD OR GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!

Posted by: Denise from TX | June 6, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Denise from Texas:
Sorry to say but I will never kill myself, and another thing if all the people that voted for Hillary, how bout this, we all vote for McCain to spite all you assholes out there voting for the Dumbass Barack Obama (his name sounds like Osama Bin Laden)(Hmm……. they might be related some how. HAHA) Dont count your chickens before they hatch bitch, he aint the president yet.

Posted by: goonies | June 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Look here you ni*ger denise from texas you can kiss all our white a**es for real, get all up in there to, make sure you get all the dingleberries off from the hairs around our a**holes too while you are at it. we want it spotless before you leave it, hear that b*tch. nig*er obama is not going to win this coming up election so you might as well hang it up because all the normal republicans and now the democrats are now going to vote for a white male name McCain since hillary is out of the running.

Posted by: NO NIG*ERS | June 6, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Are you serious No Niggers? Go ahead and put that extra G in there. Don’t be afraid, you are not offending anyone. We know that your vocabulary is limited. After all they don’t call you trash for nothing. So that is something that I can respect. So please continue you to pollute cyber space with your own self hatred because all in all YOU don’t matter. You never have and you never will. It’s actually proven. You are nothing and that is something that you have to live with. And to all of you with nothing but negativity to share about our future president please continue to speak and make his name diamond. Immortalize him. OBAMA THE LIVING LEGEND. Obviously someone Greater than you feels that he deserves it. It is his time to shine and shining bright is what he is continuing to do. And as for you No Niggers, unable to even match, in worth, the dirt beneath his shoe or mine, please continue to not exist. Obama in 08.

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 6, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

And to you goonies… you are right
“Dont count your chickens before they hatch bitch, he aint the president yet.”
so even you know its coming :)

Posted by: ObamaGurl | June 6, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

for me its only 18 percent becuase hes black the rest it he just whould plain suck as a president, its time to be ok if your white, and quit hating yourselves. we started this democracy give us credit where credit is due. also i was hoping to get a woman as president, I thought it whould be a nice change. kind in the lines of margret thatcher, but hillary whould have the best adviser in history, her husband bill. Obama has no experince and no to turn too like hillary whould of had, and to be honest, most of america isnt ready. for a guy like obama and obama isnt ready, hes kidding himself. if thinks he can bring america together. Im gonna have a big grin when the hillary supporters, all run from the democratic party this November.

Posted by: oregon | June 6, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

To misquote the prescient James Carvell,
“It’s the war stupid.”

Posted by: Charles | June 7, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

#8-infinity: Media bias, plain and simple, including always publishing great photos of BO and less than flattering pics of HC…

Posted by: Marol Kisan | June 7, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

((
Where’s the typical race-baiting Hillary supporters always on ABC blogs? Kinda quiet these days.
Posted by: ROB | Jun 3, 2008 6:52:46 PM))
Obama supporters have been mean and nasty to Hillary supporters so we’ve all gone to McCain’s site to donate money and blog there..That’s where we are.

Posted by: Dee | June 7, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

I still don’t fully grasp the Obamamania? I’ve always believed Clinton would make a much better president. I think the media acted as an “advanceman” for Obama. He’s been treated by the press with kid gloves and anointed with rock star status. I’m truly worried he’ll fall far short of expectations. He’s had nothing but low bars to clear so far. But now the bar is set extremely high … hopes and dreams. Here we go again.

Posted by: John Tilert | June 7, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

General, if Sen. Obama is as black as you say, and that he is a baster who was raised by white people but holds black tradition, I say you dont know what black tradition is.
Other black candidates would have had jessie jackson and al sharpton on the campaign stump with him. If Sen Obama is as black as you say he would have mentioned those two so-called black leaders. Your misunderstanding of black people is your ignorance of black people. Black people do not vote as a group like hispanics do. Sen Obama’s only black trait is his skin color. Blacks know how to bowl and play sports. Sen Obama looks awkward do those things. When his wife gave him the fist bump, it took him awhile to figure out what to do.
Michele Obama is your tipical black educated person. Sen Obama is trying to fit into that culture.
In the past word would have been out by now if Jessie Jackson was going to speak at the convention. This time Jessie Jackson will not speak at this convention so that should tell you that Sen Obama does not fit your logic.
White voters in predominately white states started the Obama movement. Majority of black people were for Hillary or John Edwards. Blacks looked at how white people started the movement and then they came on the Obama bandwagon.

Posted by: nswclb | June 7, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

To GOONIES, and all the other people out there who hate the African American population and call themselves “Christians and Christ’s Second Coming”,
You all have such a harsh opinion about the black community and population of this great nation. We are the United States of the Americans and God says “We are all his people” Why so much hate? You talk about judgement day when the Lord comes back but you hate a race that he created. What gives you the right for you to think that you will be accepted into Heaven? The answer: you have none. I am a white young boy with a bright future and in order to provide a world that is peaceful, fullfilling, and for every
American to pursue happiness, you must cut down racist threats. You, my friends, are not Christ, and he is the only one who is a allowed to be judgemental. Think about that one!
Obama 2008..a New Generation of Leadership

Posted by: Ryan | June 7, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Obama has judgement which is better than experience when the experience is governing homemade disasters.
Obama will win because the majority of americans are NOT racist.
The people who voted for Hillary and now switch to McCain don’t understand his positions on abortion, the Iraq War and the economy. He isn’t smart but worse, he’s wrong. I don’t think the Hillary/McCain voters number more than the fools on this board.

Posted by: HectorFrodo | June 7, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Oh, and Abraham Lincoln was only a senator for one year before he won the white house. Where was his experience? Judgement is an excellent proxy for experience.

Posted by: HectorFrodo | June 7, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Hillary lost for two reasons I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere:
1. She and Bill forgot that this was the first national referendum on their conduct in the White House since 1996. Plenty of us did remember the disgrace that they exhibited on so many levels.
2. Hillary cannot claim to be the strong and independent woman that she so stridently claims to be. By choosing to stay with a serial filanderer and worse for 40 years in order to gain derivative political power and fake “experience”, she chose to be the victim and open to caricature from the “sexist” political culture.
The next female presidential candidate will be someone with personal dignity. The sexism that Hillary attributes to the media and voters won’t be a factor.
From one of “Hillary’s demographic”-a white over-60 independent female Obamakin.

Posted by: Alice | June 7, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

The Best person won this race.. Super Delegates are just that Sometimes they have to make the tough Decision,for all those Obama Haters & Clinton Hanger-On’s who says they are going to vote for Sorry McCain.. How many more of our troops will end up 6 ft under due to his insistence of being @ war for another 100 years or more,Before 2008 is over we should be @ 5000 casaulties,and if McCain is elected we be @ 10,000 by 2012.. THINK ABOUT IT HOW MANY MORE OF OUR SON’S & DAUGHTERS ALONG WITH MOTHERS & FATHERS WILL LOSE THERE LIFE IF mccain IS Elected…(God help us all)

Posted by: Big Will | June 7, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

To Jake, Susan and all the other idiots who will vote for McCain. Chew on this.
During McCain’s speech in New Orleans on Tuesday he chastised Bush for not going down there and and getting on the ground to see first hand how bad things were. What he didn’t tell you rubes is that Bush was at his house delivering a birthday cake for – that’s right McCain!
Also, he went down to the Florida Everglades last week to give a speech on the environment. When a reporter asked him why he voted against a clean up of the everglades he denied that he voted against it. His aides had to tell he that he did in fact vote against it. 2 weeks ago he stated that the troops in Iraq were down to pre-ssurge levels. When Senator Obama stated that we were not down to pre-surge levels McCain refused to admit he was wrong. McCain was then asked how many troop we currently have in Iraq and he didn’t know that either. Senator Obama knew and stated that anyone running for President of the Unites States should know better!
To all of you – go ahead and vote for this doddering old man. That’s your right, but don’t try to convince the rest of us that he’s more competent!
See, this is why some people brand you as racist. It’s because they can’t see any other reason why you’d vote for this man. By the way, the experience argument might carry some wait if PRESIDENT KENNEDY WASN’T A FIRST TERM SENATOR!
ASSES!
You can’t seem to deal with the fact that Senator Clinton lost because she is not better qualified. Just look at how she ran her campaign. Like our country, she’s now in debt.

Posted by: roxanne | June 7, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

By the way – I’ve come up with a new acronym for that demographic of women who would vote for McCain
H.A.G.G.S
Housewives Against Good Government!

Posted by: roxanne | June 7, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

CHARMED
Your post is completely ignorant. If Martin Luther King hadn’t consistently faught for civil rights for everyone, we’d still be sitting in the back of the bus. Remember moron that it was whites who enslaved blacks in the first place. Having said that, you are clearly a toothless banjo player who escaped the cast of DELIVERANCE! By the way, according to the census bureau it’s the hispanic population that is the fastest growing in america. I won’t even get into all of the other bullshit you’ve posted but let me venture to guess that unlike Senator Obama and lots of other minorities, you did not attend HARVARD! People like you who bravely post your garbage on the internet are very brave hiding behind your keyboard. I feel sorry for you. You’re clearly frightened because this country is taking a big step towards living out the true meaning of it’s creadence and it scares the hell out of you. YOU ARE MAN’S FAVORITE PART OF THE FEMALE ANATOMY! HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY!

Posted by: roxanne | June 7, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

NO NIG*ERS
YOUR PENIS IS TOO SMALL! DON’T GET MAD BECAUSE TALL DARK AND HANDSOME KICKED THAT FAT ASS BITCH OFF THE STAGE. EVEN HER OWN HUSBAND DON’T WANT ANY OF THAT LARD ASS! BY THE WAY IF YOU’VE GOT DINGLEBERRIES YOU CLEARLY NEED A SHOWER! NASTY ASS CRACKER!

Posted by: GINA | June 7, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

I’m waiting for some of you Clinton turn coat supporter to respond to my post about John McCain? Your silence speaks volumes. I’ll bet none of you had a clue about any of what I posted.
You’re so well informed! What’s the matter? No clever come backs? Or are you genuinely shocked at just how stupid and senile that old man is? Go ahead, vote for McWar and watch your children and grandchildren come back from Iraq with their limbs blown off…if they come back alive at all!
IDIOTS!

Posted by: roxanne | June 7, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

THANK YOU ALICE. I’M A 48 YEAR OLD AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE AND YOU AND I HAVE MORE IN COMMON THEN MANY WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE! I felt the same way about Hillary staying with a man who repeatedly disrespected her. How in the hell could she have stayed with him. She would have been better off leaving him…hell, she might have won if she had. What kind of example does that set for your daughters. She stayed for political reasons and it backfired!

Posted by: roxanne | June 7, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Teach the DNC a lesson. Vote for McCain.

Posted by: Pam | June 8, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

People that switch from hillary to McCain know its More than just a good speech to run this country, and McCain is a war hero just like kerry, so give him some credit, OBAMA people screwed this election up not hillarys faithful, and by the way the republicans consider McCain a LIBERAL go figure, Why cant OBAMA People understand we dont share the same enthuisaim as they do.

Posted by: oregon | June 8, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Have you ‘GOOGLED” Barack Obama The
Antichrist? Now this is scarry.

Posted by: Nervous | June 8, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

I’ve been encouraging and supporting Hillary. And now i’m backing Obama, so ya’ll republicans, stop fooling us!!

Posted by: gorman | June 8, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

your not a true hillary backer if you support obama……UNlESS………

Posted by: oregon | June 8, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

I rate your analysis as good, mostly because you’re right when saying she lost due to her inability to separate her campaign from Bill.
On the other hand, TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WRITING HATEFUL RESPONDS:GROW UP.

Posted by: ephra | June 8, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Dowd doesn’t address some key reasons Hillary lost: A biased media picking on her with venomous accusations and rank sexism. A string of red state victories for Obama with 90% of blacks voting for him where he amassed most of his delegates. It was a steal. Clinton won most of the final states but media bias drove it out of the spotlight.

Posted by: Two-cats | June 8, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

McCain is another Hillary Clinton Who Just can’t get it together to do it RIGHT.
McCain Declines to Meet Billy Graham:
In another disturbing sign that Sen. John McCain has little interest in reaching out to his conservative base, including evangelical Christian voters, his campaign has declined an offer to meet with the Rev. Billy Graham.
I’m Sure OBAMA would not be so RUDE and ARROGANT to BILLY GRAHAM.
Go BAMA GO … The Only Candidate for the Presidency

Posted by: Buddy in Pa | June 9, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

I will post what I want when I want about whoever I want up on here. Nothing is going to stop me from that. So if you want to keep it going then more power to you. I will never back down.

Posted by: NO NIGGERS | June 9, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I do not have to hide behind a computer to state how and what I feel about anybody. If you were standing right in front of me, please believe me nothing would change on what I have to say, or what I have typed, no nothing. Because that is how I feel and what I believe and always will, and NOBODY will change that. Because it is the truth.

Posted by: NO NIGGERS | June 9, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

NO NO NO
That does not mean that OBAMA is going to win. I am just breaking it to you gently so that your heart does not get crushed at the November elections, because I believe that OUR United States of America will not be that Stupid to have him rule OUR Country. So dont hurt too bad when he loses this November.

Posted by: NO NIGGERS | June 9, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Yeah and what about the mexicans and people of that type of race. BIG DEAL!!! They are NOTHING like you BLACK as the Ace of Spades type of people.
Look we were here first. We had to bring your dumbasses over here, just to use your asses. You were not useful for anything else in this world. All of you were just taking up OUR space.
JUST A QUESTION TO ASK YOU WHITE GIRLS THAT DATE THESE BLACKS.
WHAT DO YOU GIRLS SEE IN THEM ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, BECAUSE I ASKED A LOT OF GIRLS BEFORE THAT DATE THEM AND THEY HAVE NO ANSWER AT ALL FOR IT. SO IF THERE IS AN ANSWER LET ME KNOW IT.
BECAUSE I AND ALOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DONT BELIEVE IN THIS INTERACIAL DATING DONT SEE NOT A DAMN THING SO SPECIAL ABOUT IT.
I FIND IT VERY DISGRACEFUL & DISGUSTING TO OUR WHITE CULTURE. ewh
Who in there right mind would want to kiss those Big ass chicken eating greasy ass jigaboo lips, that will cover you whole head up while you kiss.
Who would want to run there fingers through that greasy oily ass hair??
MAKE SURE YOU GOT A TOWEL TO WIPE YOUR HANDS OFF AFTERWARDS.
And that nasty ass smell that you people have, and you only wash your hair like once a week, so that means that you bath only once a week. Now that is some poor nasty hygiene there.
All I can say is YOUR NASTY.

Posted by: NO NIGGERS | June 9, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

If so called Obama’s name was not on the ballots for Florida and Michigan, why did those two states continue the election status?? That is what I would like to know. How come someone did not speak up and tell the people that were running the ballots?? How come it was not stopped and re-scheduled for another day, so they could reprint the ballots??
I JUST FIND IT TO BE A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT.
Yeah just like back when GORE and BUSH were running, Gore won Florida and then florida had to do a recount and my gosh the talley was incorrect BUSH had won it. YEAH RIGHT, it was stolen away from GORE and given right to BUSH. Becuase BUSH has a brother in the Florida Government. Florida is a crooked state when it comes to votes. See and it has happened again stolen from Hillary and given to Obama. And now Michigan is joining the bandwagon.
RIDICULOUS, all of it.

Posted by: CHARMED | June 9, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

If so called Obama’s name was not on the ballots for Florida and Michigan, why did those two states continue the election status?? That is what I would like to know. How come someone did not speak up and tell the people that were running the ballots?? How come it was not stopped and re-scheduled for another day, so they could reprint the ballots??
I JUST FIND IT TO BE A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT.
Yeah just like back when GORE and BUSH were running, Gore won Florida and then florida had to do a recount and my gosh the talley was incorrect BUSH had won it. YEAH RIGHT, it was stolen away from GORE and given right to BUSH. Because BUSH has a brother in the Florida Government. Florida is a crooked state when it comes to votes. See and it has happened again stolen from Hillary and given to Obama. And now Michigan is joining the bandwagon.
RIDICULOUS, all of it.

Posted by: CHARMED | June 9, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

I just realized something this morning we are about to elect Barrack Obama as President, A bastard, With a Muslim name. Maybe he” start going to a muslim church again. I,m sure our Muslim Enemies will embrace him, The Dems. have completely lost their MINDS.

Posted by: oregon | June 11, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

I AGREE WITH YOU OREGON 100%.

Posted by: CHARMED | June 11, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

BOTTOM LINE OBAMA HAS BROUGHT OUT ALL THE NON VOTERS SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS OF A DIFFERENT RACE/RELIGION IT IS NOT A RACE THING FOR ME PERSONALY I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO VOTE FOR COLIN POWELL IF HE WAS RUNNING OVER ALL THE 3 RUNNING CANIDATES.I WAS VOTING FOR HILLARY BUT AS IT LOOKS EVEN IF SHE JUMPS ON OBAMA BAND WAGON I WILL BE VOTING FOR MCCAIN I M NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRINGING IN OBAMA TO OUR OFFICE Can this be so??? Remembering helps! I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet…do it! A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves. Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!! Do you remember? 1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40. 2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 4. During the 1980′s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40. 12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. 13. In 2002 rep orter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by– you guessed it– Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40. No, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people… Absolutely No Profiling! They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President’s security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling. According to The Book of Revelations: The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent , who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything. And Now: For the award winning Act of Stuidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to th e most Powerful position on the face of the Planet — The Presidency of the United states of America A Muslim Male Extremist Between the ages of 17 and 40. Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ??? I’m sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the ‘unknown’ candidate Obama… Let’s send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves — if they have any such sense. As the writer of the award winning story ‘Forrest Gump’ so aptly put it, ‘Stupid Is As Stupid Does.’

Posted by: RAMONA SYLVESTER | June 23, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Obama didn’t win this election. He stole it.
The media’s vicious comments about Senator Clinton and Obama preventing the seating Florida and Michigan was the only reason he is holding the title of presumptive nominee.
Obama held Florida and Michigan in his pockets. The media reported that there were less delegates needed to win on all their maps and the superdelegates thought there was no mathematical way Clinton could win, so they jumped on board.
Obama was dishonest and a manipulator.
Democrats will not win without these two states regarless of what Obama thinks.
McCain will win by a landslide.

Posted by: Al from NJ | June 27, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

Obama didn’t win this election. He stole it.
The media’s vicious comments about Senator Clinton and Obama preventing the seating Florida and Michigan was the only reason he is holding the title of presumptive nominee.
Obama held Florida and Michigan in his pockets. The media reported that there were less delegates needed to win on all their maps and the superdelegates thought there was no mathematical way Clinton could win, so they jumped on board.
Obama was dishonest and a manipulator.
Democrats will not win without these two states regarless of what Obama thinks.
McCain will win by a landslide.

Posted by: Al from NJ | June 27, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

As a woman, a Democrat and a firm supporter of Democracy, this has been the worst media coverage of a primary election ever. Also, I am totally embarrassed of Senator Obama for his morals, his associates and his views of the United States.
I have never seen such poor and biased reporting by media in my entire life.. 20 million Clinton supporters have had it with the media and injustice of this whole nominating system. This was not reporting, it was “Clinton” bashing. I felt like I was hearing headlines from the “Enquirer” . Slews of media networks followed each other down a lane of inaccurate reporting and vicious attacks against the entire Clinton family. The coverage swayed the public and government superdelegates into their “Obama Mania” corner.
For the first in my life, I am completely embarrassed of our country and it’s reporting tactics. The pundits were cruel towards our First Lady and the entire world watched.
I also cannot understand how Obama could not be embarrassed.
How dare he ask the American people to stand with him and defend his ugly beliefs from his church (Trinity United Church of Christ), his radical and anti Semitic friends and his far left views of life.
How dare Senator Obama not apologize to Senator Clinton for the cruel remarks screamed in pews of his church about whites, Senator Clinton and President Cllinton.
Instead of apologizing to the entire Clinton family, Senator Obama had regrets about having to distance himself from his church and his radical anti American buddies and mentors, Reverend Wright and Father Pflaeger.
Obama has deceived the American people and has used crooked tactics since the beginning of the primary season.
Obama kept Michigan and Florida delegates in his pocket the whole time to sway voters and superdelgates, to give himself bragging rights. “I have the most delegates. I am the winner! We have to follow the rules. Florida and Michigan will vote for me.”
Over 300 delegate and over 2 million people. He only won this primary because the fourth largest state has never been heard properly. The popular vote was ignored and the delegates were never added in full. The media displayed inaccurate maps with incorrect numbers to give Obama a free push.
For Senator Obama to accept this decision about not seating Florida and Michigan is especially troubling. How can a leader whose message is one of “unity” agree to support a decision that strips Senator Clinton of delegates and Florida voters of their voices?
I wonder whether the price the Democratic party will pay in the general election was worth Obama’s very poor decision to ignore Michigan and Florida voters. Millions don’t think so.
There are also blocs of voters that Democrats need to win that Senator Obama is having a major problem with:
White Male Voters
White Women Voters
Catholic
Rust Belt Voters
Latino Voters
Cuban Voters
Swing State Voters
Jewish Voters
Big states
Women
Lunch Bucket Voters
Older voters
Catholic Voters
Evangelicals
Florida and Michiga
He couldn’t close the deal on the Democratic base: Ohio, Michigan, Florida, California, NY, NJ, Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virginia, Texas and Kentucky
Barak Hussein Obama has African Americans and elitists in his pocket. Doesn’t sound like a winning ticket to me.
This is the first time in my life, along with my entire community, that I will be voting for a Republican or as an Independent.
Senator Clinton does not need Obama. Obama needs Clinton. I pray that she will not accept a VP role if he offered the position.
Obama is a complete embarrassment to this country as a potential candidate for the President of the United States.

Posted by: Al from NJ | June 27, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am

SHOULD. COULD. IF. All useless words. As the writer states, the loss is a bitter and very hard pill to swallow, not only by Hillary, by Bill and their supporters. Obama won and the next best thing to do is get the @#$%^&* over it. What’s at stake is America and the people of America who are literally catching hell to survive every day in the face of the rising costs of living, gas, home foreclosures, healthcare woes, crumbling bridges, unsafe levies, and an infrastructure that is sadly neglected. If – God forbid – there should be a major disaster – natural or terror – on the homeland, the country would be scrambling put systems inplace to deal with it. THE HOMELAND HAS TO BE PROTECTED. THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA MUST COME FIRST! America is the greatest nation on this earth and while it has to be ever vigilant in maintaining that position, systems and startegies are firmly in place to ensure that the country does not lose its grip on the power button. Therefore, the President takes the counsel from those people who are paid to keep their ears to the ground and inform and advise. The President’s primary focus in this round HAS TO BE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND THE HOMELAND’S SECURITY.
So all of you foolish people who wrip crap about SHOULDA, WOULDA, IF, AND COULDA – Get a @#$%^& grip and get over it

Posted by: exatlantic | August 24, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

I watched you on Good Morning America the morning you said that the nation wanted a Mommy not a Daddy from Hillary Clinton.
Does that mean Obama is now the Mommy we all wanted? Or, is it just when there is a woman candidate, she needs to wear the Mommy or Daddy hat, but when a man is running, he doesn’t have to wear one of those hats? Would you ever say that of a man? What a sexist, piggish remark! Nothing has angered me more during this campaign from the reporters than your comment.
If I were your boss, you would have been fired for making that comment.
I cannot stand to watch you anymore and have a hard time listening to your views whether it is on This Week with George Stephanopoulos or at the Conventions.

Posted by: Nikki | September 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Who cares what this p@n1s-head with ears has to say. The dirtbag will say anything to get a job. He is a psuedo-journo and a two-bit wh0re. May be the best advise he can offers is how to shave is bald t!t-like head. He can go f*** himself.

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