Jimmy Carter: Whole of Clinton + Obama Would Be Less Than Sum Of Its Two Parts

I’m just surprised that Carter’s comments are a big deal because they are one big “DUH.” What does Obama have to gain from putting Clinton on the ticket, other than losing votes from all of the people who have hated the Clintons for almost two decades?

Jimmy Carter mismanaged his presidency. I would not listen to him for advice. BTW, once again Hillary is outperforming Obama versus McCain, according to Gallup. Well, that’s the last penny I ever give to them.

Actually I couldn’t agree more.
Obama and Clinton; poisonous chalice.
OBAMA SHOULD GO IT ALONE AND RESIST THE HENPECKING.
CHOOSE A VEEP WITH A SENSE OF HUMILITY.

How was this man ever President???

The more people like Pres. Carter come out against HC the better. I am hoping for anything to shove her out of the Dem Party into an independent.

Hillary doesn’t want to be Veep.
Her speech said just as much. OLDER WOMEN ARE PAWNS IN HER POLITICAL BAG TO BE PLAYED AS SHE WISHES…

Bridget: “How was this man ever President???”
Yes, how did a man who tells the truth ever get elected?

lol
hillary wont be able to run in 12 if she is seen as the reason she lost, so all you party people need to keep that under wraps!

Maria – how do you know that Clinton is personally responsible for these phone calls? How do you know its not an obama planned scheme to make Clinton look bad once again, because she didn’t fold for obama last night? How do you know for certain it wasn’t the Republicans starting on obama? These were phone calls, not a video conference where itdenties are made. You what little brains you have left that haven’t been brainwashed by your cult leader obama. You think he plays fair?? Now that is funny.

katmandu,
the reason why Hillary for the moment is outperforming Obama versus McCain is a small minority of Clinton supporters who are prepared to punish America with four more years of Bush policy because their candidate lost. If she can’t win, to hell with America, right?
Whatever happened to the ‘I’m not bitter’ stickers?

interest rate was 18% when this idiot carter was a president. lot of young kids have no clue how this idiot ruled.
He met Hamas and said Israel has 120 Nuclear Bombs. just shut up and go

I think President Carter might be on to something here. I don’t think anyone will benefit from putting Hillary on the ticket. I think she should go back to the Senate, where the Democratic Party could do with some leadership what with Sens Kennedy and Byrd coming to the end of their careers. If she wants to negotiate out of the race, get Obama to agree that her name can be on whatever health care bill can get passed, get her campaign debts sorted and then leave the stage till the convention and then act as cheerleader in chief for the Obama/AN oter ticket.
One other move though I think Obama could do for Clinton is pick a Clinton surrogate on the ticket, maybe Ed Rendell or Evan Bayh?
For my money Obama’s short list should be something like Rendell, Bayh, Bill Richardson, Clare McCaskill, Joe Biden and maybe someone like Jim Webb. I guess at the end of the day though he has to pick his own choice.

Barack Obama’s parner in crime, Tony Rezko, has been found GUILTY on at least 16 of the 24 counts!
Guess who is going to sing like a bird now on Obama?
Expect an Obama indictment this summer. It is coming!

The CNN pollster who stands by that cool electronic board just said that his analysis of current polling leads him to conclude McCain would beat Obama narrowly, but adding Clinton would create a landslide win for Obama, helping him pick up Florida and Arkansas, and adding some shaky midwest states as well as KY and WV.

Maria…Why in god’s name would someone call the white house with threats and say I’m a Hillary supporter? Are you really that gullable. Talk about beatin’ a woman when she’s down. I expect that from men, but what’s wrong with you women. Obama’s administration will need every dem out there. And to isolate someone from your own side is just plain stupid.Follow your leader’s (Obama) advice and shut up.It’s obviously the republicans. They don’t want Hillary on the ticket because they Know they will lose by a landslide. Mi and FL voters would feel vindicated. Rep. wouldn’t want that to happen.

Obama can’t even bring Dems together and how will he promise to bring Americans together??
Now he changed his stance on Iran in order to woo Jewish people.. Can he be trusted? He was against War, but he said there was no time-table to withdraw… he was against NAFTA but he said it was just campaign language.. He said white blue colar working class people bitter but he said he didn’t mean it.. He called his pastor as uncle and spiritual advisor for 20 years but he eventually throw him under the bus for his president dream..
So how can Americans trust Obama when he constinuously admitted he didn’t mean what he said…

Yavo Lem…
Give me a break…it’s over…

Gore would never accept Vice President, especially to this person. He doesn’t need to be embarrassed any more than he has been.

Now, just to show you that I am a reasonable person, what I could see is a brokered Convention with Gore as President and Hillary as Vice President. And Obama back to Illinois, assuming they want him back.
I would also like to see Dean resign, Reid retire, and Pelosi step down.
Give the above, I could vote for the Democratic ticket.

Bea: Carter is an underrated ex-President and Nobel Peace Prize winner. As well as loyal Democrat. That’s who he is.

if there IS a tape of michelle obama calling people whitey, i wonder where it is? and what are they waiting on as far as revealing it.

Oh please,over 35 million people voted in those primaries and many other millions of people stayed current on the outcome. Any nut job could’ve made the stupid call.

Although, I respect Jimmy Carter for his accomplishments, his judgement is lacking. If he would have put Ted Kennedy on the ticket, he may have won this second term.

Actually, Rezko and Obama met when Obama was in law school. The AP, as usual, has done sloppy reporting.
Of course if the rumors prove true about that Michelle Obama tape, no one will even remember Tony Rezko.

There is nothing honest or honourable about Senator Obama. He is as corrupt as the most corrupt out of the Chicago political machine. He and Rezko belong in the same cell.
Obama will not win.

Yavo Lem:
I believe it was President Ford (Republican) who pardoned some of the draft resisters!
Of course, those of us who actually lived through that period, think that was a pretty good thing — except it kinda came with the pardon of Richard M. Nixon for his crimes against our country!!!
Posted by: jackt51
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I know whereof I speak:
Jimmy Carter, in one of his first acts as president, granted a “full, complete, and unconditional pardon” to draft dodgers and deserters on 21 January 1977

After it was announced that Obama was the presumptive nominee for the democratic party, Hillary was introduced as the next President of the United States. She didn’t acknowledge the fact that he had crossed the finish line. I don’t see how those actions will help her win the V.P. spot.

Two words: Clinton Baggage
All this talk about the Clinton legacy, Clinton branding…well here it is:
Hillary Clinton’s legacy will be liar, cheat and delusional loser.
Bill Clinton’s legacy will still be Monica Lewinsky, a blue dress and rumors of continued infidelity while campaigning for his wife.
She will be remembered as the first woman who ran for office but blew it because she lied about sniper fire, cried when she was behind, and tried to cheat by changing every one of the campaign rules. Hillary will be remembered as the woman who mismanaged her campaign so badly she lost a certain nomination as a former first lady and wife of THE democratic president of many decades.
Bill Clinton will be rembered as an impeached president who couldn’t leave the ladies alone. One who lied to America about not having se_ _ al relations on TV and wagged his finger at the cameras. He will also be remembered for his explosive temper and now famous finger wagging when he is obvously lying again.

So Mr Carter thinks people don’t want to vote for Obama because of his skin, age,middle name etc?
Wrong,,,,wrong,,wrong…

It is common knowledge that there are standard conventions to choose running mates. So it is in election 2008. The alleged friction between the Clinton and Obama camp could have reached vitriolic levels that could have endangered the Democratic Party,but it did not. Guess what,it attracted and invigorated uncommitted voters in the history to stand up and be counted and make history. Where to now with all this talk about the Clinton camp not supporting the Obama camp? It’s all talk. It’s all politics.To be more accurate it’s politricks. The truth is the Clinton camp like the Obama camp are both democrats and like all good families have a little squabble then make up and go on , so what else is new.
Most people know that what is most likely to happen is that there will be a shifting of primary voting position by the majority of voters that were in the Clinton camp moving to the next level of commitment, to Presidential voting position , that is from individual level to party level, from a primary election 2008 polling statement to a declaration of party loyalty rallying around the Democratic Party Presidential Nominee for November 2008.
The polls made it appear that there was going to be a Clinton Administration in Election 2008.It never happened. It would appear that most of the polls polled a small section of a carefully chosen community to present a carefully cardiographed miniscule representation of so called voting trends
in Election 2008 to what would appear to be to scientifically engineer and manipulate poll figures to bolster previous statements of support for one candidate against the other.
True or false? You tell me, did the polls get it right 80% of the time or 65% of the time or maybe 43% of the time? Ask the pollsters, no one is really sure what the self ordained priests posing as self appointed political analysts sitting on their tripods in their temples of media spin were spouting when they made wild predictions of this and that and were wrong most of the time. Why?They relied on cooked up figures that were souped up to make one candidate look better than the other candidate in election 2008.
When things went contrary to the cited polling figures, then media spin kicked and kitchen sink strategy and mudslinging politics. But that is history now. It will be swept under the carpet or placed in a hired skip to dump all the vitriolic garbage in the dumping site graveyard of failed election campaigns.
The Democratic party is on the road to November 2008. One camp lost another camp won. So what? Both camps are democrats and everyone knows the party interests take precedence over individual interest.
The Obama camp has earned the right to choose their own VP. Convention rules in American politics have always been that way. Their choice must be respected because it will be the choice Obama camp and Barak Obama.Errol Smythe.

While socially conservative, John McCain is a moderate,like the Clintons,he just leans right and they lean left.
He actually DOES have a track record of working across the aisle with Democrats to create legislation unlike the FANTASY of bipartisanship Obama tries to create.
He also has a track record of going against his party for something he believes in..unlike Obama who doesn’t take a stand.
I believe he will have a bipartisan cabinet and hope he appoints Hillary to it.
Hillcrat 4 McCain 2008

Everyone has been trying to suggest that race, ethnicity, etc. was not a factor in obama’s win, but Carter seems to suggest now that if Obama fails, it will be because of reasons other than his substance-lacking rhetoric and his changing views on how to handle many issues. I mean the guy literally said that people won’t vote for Obama because he “isn’t white enough”. I can’t see how an obviously-biased person can make what should be an unbiased decision such as who VP candidate should be.

A joint ticket with Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton may not be a bad idea after all. But it is up to the Obama camp and Barak Obama to make the final decision. It is good to have an open mind and examine all options and choose what is best for the Democratic Party and what is good for the country. It may be a tough call to make. But then again it is just a everyday routine decision that one may expect of anyone aspiring for the high office of the President of the United States of America, because to be the President of the United States of America you have to be a great person loved and accepted by all Americans.
The great President John F Kennedy said “..ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country…”
Another great President Abraham Lincoln said “…united we stand,divided we fall…” and Ronald Reagan, a third great President said “…America is a shining beacon of democracy……”
Like many that originally considered that it wouldn’t work, because of the fierce exchange of words between the two camps, a joint ticket sounded out of the question. But then my opinion don’t matter. It don’t matter because it is not my call, it is the call of the Obama Camp and Barak Obama.
On reflection it will be good to heal the party. It will demonstrate that in primary elections , individuals may have different opinions but still have the grace to unite around a common purpose for the good of the people. Tin Election 2008 the Democratic Party people have spoken in the primaries by voting in their millions that they have a high opinion of both Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama .
Is a joint ticket a U-turn to rhetoric that would prefer the Obama Camp administration totally independent of the Clinton Camp and the Clinton Camp totally independent of the Obama Camp?Yes! An emphatic yes! Why? Because both Camps have excellent election and administration teams and best of all they belong to the same party. It will be good synergy for the party for the Obama Camp and the Clinton Camp to progress to the next level.
The media has been kind to both candidates . That is the maturity of American politics. Freedom of the press and freedom of speech,transparency and accountability.
Together Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton with John Edwards will make a formidable team. It is common knowledge that convention states that the winning candidate gets to choose his running mate. Public opinion and street wise talk on the streets suggests that it will be gracious for Barak to choose Hillary as a running mate.
In the past at the height of the primaries some negative press reports suggested that a joint ticket was not a good idea. I am guilty of thinking that it was not a good idea. But I would like to go on record for whatever it is worth and say that I salute Hillary Clinton for her tenacity, her courage,her patriotism, her great zeal and love for America, her love and commitment to Israel and her dedication to the high call of duty. Hillary as VP will bring a wealth of experience and advice for the Obama Administration.
To date Hillary’s has not publicly conceded. No one knows what is actually being said by both party camp loyals about the future direction of the party behind closed doors and what is being whispered by party camp die hards around coffee tables in restaurants , hastily convened crisis meetings etc. Just kidding!
Word on the street is that the party has to have a united front. To do this it may be recommended by persons close to Barak Obama that since Hillary’s name has been put forward for the VP slot it is respectfully suggested that he appoint her as his VP running mate and have John Edwards as Secretary of State.
The final decision will be up to Barak Obama who has the interests of uniting and healing the wounds of division of the Democratic party. That is an urgent priority and the “…urgent need of now..” and the “…fierce urgency of the hour…”.
It is hoped that this contentious hurdle of appointments of Hillary and John Edwards can unite and galvanize the party to be a political force to reckon worth.
No one doubts the patriotism , maturity and graciousness of Barak , Hillary and John who have the Democratic Party interest at heart and will do whatever it takes to unite the party around a common purpose with a view of November 2008 . Errol Smythe.

If hillary joins McCain it just proves what we already knew she will do anything to get back in the White House.Sen.Barack Obama doesn’t need to be watching his back all the time to see what she is up to.No matter what you want. The people in Washington know the Clintons, they don’t want them their because of their history. Even Clinton biographies have envisioned the thesis as evidence of Marxist or Socialist views and said her ideology was a brutal willingness to attack opponents and accumulate power in the Saul D.Alinsky style. David Brock in 1996 called her Alinsky’s Daughter. I don’t think even McCain want’s to deal with her we know Bill doesn’t?