Playing the Age Card? Obama Camp Calls McCain “Confused,” Jumps On McCain Comments on Iraq
Poll after poll shows that more voters trust Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on matters of national security than they do Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois. Hoping to bridge that chasm, the Obama campaign and Democrats harped on comments McCain made on the Today show this morning, repeatedly calling the 71-year-old presumptive GOP presidential nominee "confused," seeming to feed into concerns voters might have about the Arizonan’s age.
This morning, asked if he has a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq now that the surge is working, McCain said, "No, but that’s not too important. What’s important is the casualties in Iraq. Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany — that’s all fine. American casualties and the ability to withdraw."
The Obama campaign pounced. On a hastily-arranged Obama campaign conference call Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., Dr. Susan Rice, and former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig, all assailed McCain.
Kerry called the remarks "unbelievably out of touch and inconsistent with the needs and concerns of Americans," particularly the families of troops in Iraq. "We cannot support the level of American troops in Iraq; our military is overstretched, it’s reduced our ability to respond to events around the world, and to the situation in Afghanistan. Senator McCain, it is important when they can come home."
Kerry went so far as to say McCain "doesn’t seem to know a lot about foreign policy and Iraq itself."
Rice said McCain’s comments reveal a "real confusion and lack of understanding of the situation in Iraq" and the larger region. Jumping on gaffes McCain made in the past, Rice said McCain’s "repeatedly…confused Sunni and Shi’a," and said he’s been "confused about who the leader in Iran with maximum power is." Rice also said McCain "seems very eager" to engage Iran militarily….This is troubling to say the least, and it’s reflective of a pattern of lack of understanding and lack of strategic depth."
Mark Salter, a top adviser to McCain, said McCain hasn’t been remotely confused on the big picture in Iraq.
"He saw it with unbelievable prescience and unbelievable clarity," Salter said. "He outlined in 2003 precisely what Gen. Petraeus has done so successfully in Iraq. Sen. McCain knows enough about Iraq — from his many visits there and his career in the U.S military — to stand up and advocate, when it was a tough thing to do, a counterinsurgency, a policy he was criticized by Democrats and Republicans for advocating, and one that is manifestly, inarguably succeeding. That’s a position he had the experience and wisdom to recognize, and one that Sen. Obama and Sen. Kerry — as has happened so many times in their careers — were wrong about."
Salter said McCain has had a "level of clarity and understanding on Iraq that obviously Sen. Obama and Sen. Kerry have never achieved on this subject — or Ms. Rice."
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Asked if the word "confused" was meant to invoke McCain’s age, Rice said, "what I meant by that is very simple — on critical, factual questions that are fundamental to understanding what’s going on in Iraq and the region, Sen. McCain has gotten it wrong. And not just once but repeatedly."
Rice mentioned a recent incident when McCain mistakenly said troop levels had returned to pre-surge levels. "I’m not ascribing it to any particular function, I’m completely unable to do so," Rice said. "I’m simply pointing out a pattern."
She invited a reporter to offer another word to convey what she saw as McCain’s "lack of understanding, misunderstanding, …they all amount to the same thing. There is a gap. Between reality and sen McCain’s characterization of reality and that’s disturbing from somebody who has staked his candidacy on judgment and experience."
Kerry said to a reporter that it was "unfair and even a little bit ridiculous to assume that because you use a word that is used about every day in America life and people’s policies and apply it to John McCain and you jump to the conclusion that is about somebody’s age."
Kerry said there are plenty of senators and congressman older than McCain "who understand the difference sand don’t make the mistakes he’s made with respect to those policies," he said, citing Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia. "They know who the Sunni are and they know who the Shi’a are, and they know exactly who’s training who. And they don’t make those kinds of mistakes."
Danzig added, "I don’t think it’s a question of age," saying McCain was wrong five years ago when he voted to authorize use of force against Iraq, when he was five years younger.
McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds issued a statement saying the Obama campaign "is embarking on a false attack on John McCain to hide their own candidate’s willingness to disregard facts on the ground in pursuit of withdrawal no matter what the costs. John McCain was asked if he had a ‘better estimate’ for a timeline for withdrawal. As John McCain has always said, that is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field. Any reasonable person who reads the full transcript would see this and reject the Obama campaign’s attempt to manipulate, twist and distort the truth.”
Democrats on Capitol Hill joined the charges as well.
"When asked this morning about American troops coming home from Iraq, John McCain said ‘that’s not too important,’" said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Illinois, the House Caucus Chairman. "Senator McCain, to the men and women who are serving their second, third, or even fourth deployment in Iraq, and to their families, it is incredibly important. Once again, John McCain has displayed a fundamental misunderstanding about the situation in Iraq, our strained military, and American troops and their families."
Democrats not surprisingly avoided mentions of other sections of the Today interview, including anchor Matt Lauer’s praise of McCain for "courage" for having backed the surge when the rest of the country was opposed to it, McCain pointing out that he was pushing the Bush administration to add more troops early on.
They also shied away from using McCain’s complete answer to Lauer’s question about withdrawal, which included McCain saying, "we will be able to withdraw. Gen. Petraeus is going to tell us in July when he thinks we are. But the key to it is we don’t want any Americans in harm’s way. And that way they will be safe. And serve our country, and come home in honor in victory. Not in defeat, which is what Sen. Obama’s proposal would have done…We are succeeding and it’s fascinating that Sen. Obama still doesn’t realize that."
The fuller answer can be seen HERE
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McCain is “out of touch”.
Posted by: stacey | June 11, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Mccain will go after Obama for being “inexperienced” which is the same thing. He is saying he is too young. And Mccain is too old in my opinion. Older does not always equal wiser. And I do not agree with the surge. Of course it worked. You put more troops in the violence will go down. Just like when you know there will be more cops on the highway you watch your speed.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
The fact that he is confused has nothing to do with age. W has been confused since 2003 when he said Iraq was linked to 9/11.
Posted by: Louis | June 11, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Obama thinks there are 57 states. What does Kerry and Rice say about that?
Posted by: sb | June 11, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
sb? And why do you think he thinks there are 57 states.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
It’s nice to see BO can blame someone other than his staff for his idiocy.
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 11, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Danzig added, “I don’t think it’s a question of age,” saying McCain was wrong five years ago when he voted to authorize use of force against Iraq, when he was five years younger.
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John McCain was a prisoner of war…he DOES know about WAR.
Five years as a prisoner of War would improve his knowledge of WAR.
I think we owe him 4 years as president.
Posted by: REMEMBER NOVEMBER | June 11, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Well of course they would use ageism, they’ve already used racism & sexism. It falls right into their plan! And he said he would run a clean campaign.
Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 11, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Because BO says there are 57 states and he’s always right, you are wrong.
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 11, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Being a POW does not entitle the presidency.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Why does Obama engage in personal attacks instead of working the issues?
Posted by: Just Curious | June 11, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Shame. Maybe McCain is old but he knows what’s happening in Iraq. Everybody knows what will happen if the USA bring the troops home?No. McCain said he can win this war and I belive he is right.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
REMEMBER….Daaaa…remember who got the nomination? He didn’t get it by being stupid. Plus he conducted himself as a gentleman, unlike Hillarys disgusting outpouring of venum…
Posted by: truthtell | June 11, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Again where did he say there are 57 states?
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Why does Obama always engage in personal attacks instead of confronting real issues?
Posted by: Just Curious | June 11, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Just Curious. How is questioning someomes ability to get facts straight a personal attack. This is politics.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
John McCain – “judgement and experience” that only comes with age:
“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
” I believe that the success will be fairly easy.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. ” [CNN, 9/29/02]
“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
“But I believe that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]
“This is a mission accomplished..” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
Posted by: Old Does Not Mean Wise | June 11, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
I would say playing the age card is wrong, but when McCain threatens our beer which PETA has deemed healthier than milk, I say Obama go for it and vote Ron Paul.
Posted by: Ben Straub | June 11, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
McCain is a little “out of touch” because he does not know that this year the political winds say “change is everything”… Obama on the other hand knows how to use the “mood of the nation” and pivot to whatever position will please people.
In his litany of “change”, Obama promises to:
Change Washington
Change the War
Change the Economy
Change how we deal with rogue nations
Change immigration reform
and on and on and on…
Between now and November… I hope the American public will finally ask him how, EXACTLY, he will do these things and what experience he has in accomplishing ANYTHING rather than just simply nodding and saying amen.
Posted by: smartprimate | June 11, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
McCain has been really worrying me lately. He has been so confused that Senator Lieberman had to whisper the correct thing into his ear. My grandmother has to do that for my grandfather all the time. He gets things mixed-up.
I hope that McCain is not getting dementia or something like that. That is what my grandfather was diagnosed with.
Posted by: Ohenry | June 11, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Briget…you must not have any kids in the war. I have a son over there and he wants out!!! Plus the troops are dwindling and we will need a draft soon. You want to go for that, and make another Vietnam? But then again you are probably too young to remember Vietnam, but I do!!! What to hell are we fighting for anyway.? This country will NEVER be a Democracy!
Posted by: militarymom | June 11, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Oh. And Rice said Hillary is a monster. I think Obama and his advisors are out of touch.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Obama didn’t engage in a personal attack…he said the Senator is confused on these issues…he is.
How else do you describe it…”mistaken”?
He has been corrected on these several times and he still screws them up.
It’s not once…or even twice he keeps doing this on the same issues.
It may not be age it may be just lack of an ability to get them straight.
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Obama will save Great Lake Oregon if he is elected.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
In Oregon, the Great Orator: “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 11, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Nader and Paul seem pretty sharp. McCain however seems to be showing the signs of age.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Why is Obama so afraid of town hall meetings?
Posted by: Just Curious | June 11, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Smart…go on Obama’s web page. He explains each of these and how he plans to change them. I guess you aren’t listening either. His last few speaches have really been clarifying things you are asking.
Posted by: formerhillary | June 11, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Nader is 74 years old.
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 11, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
militarymom
I’ll bet you son is really proud of you!
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
JO…I guess that only proves he is human and makes mistakes, unlike McCain who only get geographics mixed up, and names of the players. ZEEEZzzzzzzzz
I guess that also proves he isn’t the Messiah, just a man…
Posted by: newvoter | June 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Speeches are by speechwriters. I prefer the Great Orator on the stump. He stumbles worse than George. I know, no one knew that was possible.
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 11, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
formerhillary
It’s a common know fact that Obama did not create his web pages and has only a marginal idea of what’s on them. All he knows it that the site is scrubbed every time another of his associates is outed.
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
The reason they want to make this an age issue and not just a confusion issue or mistaken issue… is because they jump on Obama when he mistates something once for not knowing the facts and they don’t want to look like it is that…
but his own campaign remembers the videos of Nancy Reagan whispering to Ronald Reagan in the second half of his presidency…and they are afraid a lot of Americans will make that correlation…
I am sure it is he just has a lot on his mind but these statements ..y …”it’s not important how long we stay in Iraq, it’s about casualties” does he see the moneys we are spending…
oy
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
A…yes he is because he knows I HATE war in general, and in partucular this one, but I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE TROOPS.
Posted by: militarymom | June 11, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
remeber november just because john mccain was pow and i give him much respect for serving this country does not make him fit to be president you have to know more issuse than just war and military what about the economy global warming education energry crisis those are also important issuses not just war and frankly mccain is too weak on them this is the 21 century mccain is too old school
Posted by: angie | June 11, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
SOODD: Same old Obama, different day!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | June 11, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Oh my goodness. He was obviously talking about the 57 primaries. Silly people.
Posted by: marie | June 11, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
militarymom
I’m really young and I’m not an American. I live in a country where was communism 18 years ago and now we are a democracy. So I belive Iraq will be Democracy one day.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
You who compare saying it does not matter when American soldiers are coming home to a tired candidate saying 57 states are morons.
Posted by: Jim | June 11, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
A…what a LIAR you are….I have been on his site everyday for the last year and it hasn’t changed a bit…He hasn’t changed his ideas or what he believes…You Hillary supporters need to understand IT’S OVER!!!!
Posted by: formerhillary | June 11, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
June 18, 2008 — Larry Sinclair to speak at the National Press Club in DC.
The spin-masters are working overtime!
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Bridget – keep dreaming, democracy eh? It isn’t whether or not Iraq will be better off. The real question is whether or not the US should make itself broke with these foolish interventions.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
irish gal,
I hope you know there were 57 contests including primaries, caucuses, and the territories like Puerto Rico.
Posted by: pt | June 11, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Sally….that’s McCain….he scares me. He is too weird….Did anyone notice when he is speaking he doesn’t smile ate all but at the end of the sentence he smiles…Almost like a delayed reaction.
Posted by: newvoter | June 11, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Remember this is the man that over and over said about Iraq. …”Bush should tell the American people it is going to be a long and hard fought war”
and still wanted to go.
He knew it was going to be long and expensive and casualties…
and he STILL thought Iraq was a good idea.
He wanted to go into Iraq but unlike Bush who we can give the benefit of the doubt that he might have been dumb and ignorant of what would happen…
McCain knew and STILL wanted the war.
and now he is saying the same things about Iran.
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
pt
Name them!
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Dont worry Mccain has promised to veto every beer in the country so even if he wins, there will no beer to celebrate and guess he is a big fan of ABBA. Mccain, i have come to believe is just too old for the Presidency
Posted by: vuzous | June 11, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
If we didn’t have war or a threat of war we wouldn’t need troops. It takes a lot of courage to sign up knowing that you may be sent to a war not of your choosing.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Obama thinks Chavez rule came in effect during the Bush administration.
Psst, Obama it was the Clinton administration.
I could go on and on all day about Obama’s gaffes. He’s pretty stupid for a Harvard Law grad.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
McCain would probably do a good job at the Pentagon, but I can’t see him as President. Everything he says and everything he does goes through his military lens. It’s all he’s got.
My four cents (adjusted for Republican inflation)
Posted by: Tom J | June 11, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
A…go home…Larry Sinclair retracted all the crap he was spreading months ago…Could be why the press never printed it? It was Bogus, dude…
Posted by: formerhillary | June 11, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
I’ve noticed this alot with McCain and it troubles me – he seems to get very easily addled by basic facts. I don’t think it’s “age-ism” to say that he’s clearly past his prime.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Tom J,
And Obama would be good for United Nations or something but not as president.
No way.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Senator Obama is showing his stupidity by even mentioning misspeaks by McCain. After all, Obama was selected by 57 states (5 that Clinton did not campaign in) and saw fallen heroes in his audience. Obama’s teleprompters and speech writers are his best assets. He can’t think on his feet. Obama also said that USA was the best nation on earth and he wanted to change it. GO AWAY, OBAMA
Posted by: Mary | June 11, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
newvoter – I have seen it. He used to get that way during the debates when Ron Paul would spew some truth to the McCain, Juliani, and Romney. They would all sit there looking constipated.
Posted by: Sally | June 11, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Funny that the only “ism” that is not allowed is racism. Apparently both sexism and ageism are perfectly okay with the media and Obama supporters. No outcry over that at all!
Posted by: Charlie35 | June 11, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
the freshman senator has all the answers? sounds like Jimmy carter to me.
Posted by: Jim Rod | June 11, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Obama wants to ban gun stores within 5 miles of schools and parks.
5 miles????
The most liberal senator ever.
President McCain – get PLENTY use to it!
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
JO
That is a mouthful …you must be very smart to be able to call the guy who was the President of the Harvard Law Review…and who has achieved as much as he has…”stupid”.
Unlike McCain who had his dad get him in to his school…sound familiar?
Like another of our Presidents who came from a political family?
If there is one issue you might have a hard time persuading even with spin…is Obama being stupid.
lol
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Old people have turned the U.S. into a hot mess. Both Hillary and McCain are old. So is Bush and most other politicians. We dont need experience. We need a fresh Hip-Hop additude. Obama will bring cool to the white house.
Posted by: DaShawn | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
McCain is right – Obama would be Carter’s 2nd term.
No thanks. We don’t need that again.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
I’m not worried about my gun but I’ll be damned if I’ll vote for mc-more-war who wants to veto my beer :)
Posted by: pt | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Bridget – not all former dictatorships make the transition to democracy successfully. Look at Russia. I would hardly call Putin’s autocracy a successful democracy. And most Americans doubt that Iraq can make the transition as well.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Bridget – not all former dictatorships make the transition to democracy successfully. Look at Russia. I would hardly call Putin’s autocracy a successful democracy. And most Americans doubt that Iraq can make the transition as well.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Has Obama been asked about the possibility of increased US casualties in a poorly-timed withdrawal?
If *when* the troops come home is the most important thing, that increases the possibility that *how* it is done will not be the most strategically wise and would increase US Troop vulnerability.
Obama could argue on behalf of his plan, and explain how he plans to bring the troops home safely and quickly.
He could also explain how many troops he plans to leave behind in support positions, for how long, and how he intends to guarantee their safety.
That would be an interesting debate between Obama and McCain. This misrepresentation of McCain’s position is neither interesting nor a new kind of uniting politics.
Posted by: MayBee | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
He outlined in 2003
precisely what Gen.
Petraeus has done so
successfully in Iraq.
Sen. McCain knows enough about Iraq — from his many
visits there
——————-
All the above says is
that McCain has formed
his Iraq opinions from
the many “dog-and-pony”
shows he has participated
in while in Iraq.
He never strayed outside
of the “company line”.
Posted by: Beto | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Obama = Jimmy Carter with less experience and altruism.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Pt: Your point is what?
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 11, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
JO…the Chavez things went down in 1973-74, that was Nixon…
Posted by: truthtell | June 11, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
McCain is too old. Obama is young. We dont need experience. We need Obama’s fresh hip-hop additude in the white house.
Posted by: DaShawn | June 11, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Obama may be book smart, but he’s dumb in general.
And that’s just a fact. He’s a teleprompter king, and without it he’s just an average speaker who plagerizes.
And don’t even get started on his sense of US geography!!
No thanks!
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
The point is clear; McCain has no exit strategy from Iraq because he plans no exit. He does not define “victory” because that would actually be a metric that he would be held accountable against (and if he does define it, you can bet it will be an unachievable metric). So use whatever adjective you like, it doesn’t change where he stands.
And since when doesn’t age matter? Obama’s “inexperience” is basically saying the same thing in reverse. And for those of you who actually supported McCain in 2000, like me, there is a difference that 8 years makes. Just look at his speeches and speaking style.
Posted by: MIguy | June 11, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
No Chavez was during Clinton administration, but you make an ever better point that Obama is clueless.
Thanks!
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Len…so how long to you suggest we stay? Maybe until your gradnchildrn or great-gradnchildren die there? These countrys have been fighting for 100′s and 100′s of years. Do you think just because the US is there that suddenly we will have a Democracy?
Posted by: telltruth | June 11, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Just admit that Obama probably failed Geography and get over it.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
This is such bull… just because they used the word “confused”? John McCain has confused many of the issues, which has nothing to do with his age.
Posted by: matt w. | June 11, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Supposedly one of the demographics that Obama fell short on getting was that of the older Americans. Continually harping on McCain’s age won’t get it. My mom is 73 and Obama has kept her pissed off since he first opened his mouth about it. I read this morning that Obama was worried about getting the Republican and Independant vote. He still hasn’t gotten the Democratic vote yet. McCain’s age is way down the list of what he should be worried about.
Posted by: Melanie | June 11, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Has Obama been asked about the possibility of increased US casualties in a poorly-timed withdrawal?
If *when* the troops come home is the most important thing, that increases the possibility that *how* it is done will not be the most strategically wise and would increase US Troop vulnerability.
Obama could argue on behalf of his plan, and explain how he plans to bring the troops home safely and quickly.
He could also explain how many troops he plans to leave behind in support positions, for how long, and how he intends to guarantee their safety.
That would be an interesting debate between Obama and McCain. This misrepresentation of McCain’s position is neither interesting nor a new kind of uniting politics.
Posted by: MayBee | June 11, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Obama is just not ready for prime time.
Did anyone see his excuse yesterday for the Jim Johnson pick as someone to vet VP choices?
I’ve never seen such fumbling and “ah” and Oh” and DUH……
Lol. Obama was caught in a huge hypocrisy and he didn’t do well at all.
Busted.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
McCain makes another Iraq miscalculation, and the author is saying that those pointing it out, are connecting it to his age. It sounds like the author is the only one making it about his age. This authors simplified/talk radio minded innuendos are getting so obvious. Is this guy making you money, is that why you let him talk?
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
McCain has your typical fly boy attitude.
He doesn’t have a clue about the military on the ground and the work they do.
Posted by: Dan | June 11, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Jo…I would like to hear the quote about Chavez you are quoting. I don’t believe you. I know Obama spoke of Chavez being honored for this work during the Bush admin.
Posted by: formerhillary | June 11, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
If we pull out before the country is stabilized, which groups do you think are going to be screaming the loudest for us to go back in to stop the genocide?
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Obama does stumble a lot when he speaks. I believe his problem is that he is actually thinking about the question posed; he needs to be a better politician and turn off his brain and ears like most of them do.
Posted by: MIguy | June 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
jock59801
Actually, those who know Obama believe he’s as dumb as a rock.
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
“REMEMBER NOVEMBER”
If being a prisoner of war was qualifications for presidency my brother & at least 100 bearded homeless veterans from nam should have been in the White House
Posted by: what? | June 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Ageism ? McCain was just as dumb when he was young. Like that other very brave veteran, George Armstrong Custer, John McCain finished at the bottom of his class at his military academy. (Custer was dead last, pardon the expression, at West Point. McCain, the son and grandson of Admirals, finished 894 out of 899 at Annapolis. The parallels between the two men don’t stop there.)
America cannot afford a General Custer type as President.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
ReaganWasRight!
But most Americans supported the war in Iraq in 2003 and 2004. Now they are saying it’s not true because the things not looking so good in Iraq. I don’t like this double-dealing.
Posted by: Bridget | June 11, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
McCain is a relic from the distant past… he is indeed confused and misguided. The Republican Party is little more than the party of corporate greed and nationalistic bluster. I can’t wait for November.
Posted by: winemaker | June 11, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
@telltruth:
I want to hear what the people who are paying the price have to say about the purchase, not what the insurance salesman say about the terms of the contract.
We started with Travers, Stookey and Yarrow singing about the Cruel War to Andy Williams. We ended with the Who singing Won’t Get Fooled Again to a festival. Did we accomplish anything or just make ourselves feel righteous?
So before we try to reinvigorate the Sixties, I want to hear from the boots on the ground who are there making the difference what difference it makes.
Then we can talk schedules.
Posted by: len | June 11, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
I support Paul who is older than McCain.
I also think Obama is probably pretty intelligent. He certainly isn’t dumber than what we have now. I will however miss the Bushisms, but I won’t miss our misguided foreign policy.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
formerhillary
Being human is a better reason than being a puppet.
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 5% then vote for Obama.
Posted by: pt | June 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Bridget – Americans were lied too about a host of issues. That is why a majority supported the war when it happened and now a majority do not.
Posted by: Ben Straub | June 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
@Mack: How do you define “stable”? If you mean running water, security, electricity, shelter, and jobs – then they had that under Saddam. If you mean democracy, are you prepared to accept a “democratically” elected government that is hostile to the U.S.? If we keep coddling and playing footsies with the leaders there and letting them drink from an endless spigot, how will they ever stand up on their own? If we treat them like babies, they’ll suckle and never grow up.
Posted by: MIguy | June 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
This is a greatr statement:
If we pull out before the country is stabilized..
So what is the criteria?
Posted by: truthtell | June 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
do you talkradio listeners ever make contact with nature?
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
When is Obama going to release his state senate notes?
Posted by: Just Curious | June 11, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
MIguy….GREAT COME BACK….
Posted by: formerhillary | June 11, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Obama is a secret closet Muslim!
He joined to Rev Wright;s church to hide his Muslim religion! Obama’s church has 400 Muslim members!
because the Trinity church of Christ help Palestenians!
Barrack Obama MUST release his BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
Obama a secret closet Muslim!
Joe Lieberman is so right!
Posted by: Sam | June 11, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
this article is full on innuendo, with no relevant reporting other than McCains miscalculation, way to go JPT?
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
I think it is Obama who is confused. He still thinks US has 57 or 58 states. He thinks that Rev. Wright became a lunatic only yesterday. He thinks “Lay off my wife” comments shows his strength.
Is Obama confused or affirmative action by Harvard did not help this opportunist, racist liberal politician?
Posted by: Roger Miller | June 11, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Based on his wheeling and dealing in Chicago with his bud Rezko, I think Obama feels quite comfortable among the top 5%.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
what? we need hip hop in office??? stop with the crazy crap. McCain is the only real choice we have. I’m not voting for any wet behind the ears know it all
Posted by: janet | June 11, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
President McCain will do just fine. Anyone who got into the Academy is tops.
JFK, FDR and Reagan were not known to be academics. They were some of our best presidents.
Nixon & Carter were known to be geniuses. How did those guys do?
LOL. No thanks to Obama.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Why is Obama so afraid of town hall meetings? Posted by: Just Curious | Jun 11, 2008 12:30:04 PM
Why would Obama give McInsane an avenue for free press? If McInsane wants the American people to see him on TV, let him pay for ads.
Posted by: KS KATTY | June 11, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I mean seriously… Does anyone actually think that Barack Obama is going to lose to John McCain in November? Are you kidding me? This race is already the most uneventful campaign I’ve seen in a long time. Hillary Clinton had more fire in the belly then McCain does. When did the “Hero” bar get lowered so that getting captured and tossed in a prison camp for 5 years makes you a “War Hero”. Thought real “Hero’s” in combat are the ones who gave their lives for their fellow soldiers, or would eat a bullet rather than be captured and allow sensitive information to be tortured out of them. 5 Years is a long time to be captive. How much you wanna bet that after a while ole’ McCain told “charley” anything he wanted to know? Being a commission flight officer we can assume he knew plenty. After all, the viet cong weren’t famous for their respect for the Geneva Convention. McCains a phony and a fraud and a disgrace to every ground soldier who fought and died in Nam.
Posted by: UnConvinced | June 11, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
A…so I guess when Hillary cried,and had to take 4 days to conceded, that wasn’t human….and when McCain broke under the torture that wasn’t human….?
Posted by: telltruth | June 11, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Bridget – we don’t like the double-dealing, either. The reason why a majority of Americans supported the war in 2003 was because we were lied to by the Bush administration. And now that we realize we were lied to, we are very, very angry with Bush and his administration.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
As we have known for some time now, Barack Obama is just another calculating hardball playing politician—dispite his branding.
In contrast, the only reason that John McCain is doing so well in the face of George W’s historically low approval ratings is precisely that the American people believe that John McCain tells them the truth—even if that truth is not politically expedient.
Unlike Obama, our image of John McCain was not crafted 18 months ago by some highly paid campaign consultant. Rather, McCain built it by talking straight for decades.
McCain’s reputation is not going to be harmed by these petty and ineffectual ad hominem attacks from Team Obama.
We can all see McCain on TV—including the town hall meetings that Barack Obama is afraid to attend with McCain to debate the issues—and make up our own minds if at age 71 (which is not especially old these days) McCain is senile.
Nice try Mr. Obama, no cigar. But thank you for playing.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | June 11, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Jo – What about those that go to Yale?
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Now Obama is hiding his passport.
Why? Too many secrets with this guy and too many bad judgments and associations.
“This isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew” had to be the staw that broke the camel’s back.
This guy is an idiot.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
In a recent rally in Bristol, VA, Obama said kids with asthma should be treated with a breathalyzer, err a inhalator.
What the heck is an inhalator?
..and the Barackisms keep coming folks, expect a book by November.
No fairness in the MSM.
If this had happened to McCain, you know the media would be labeling him a senile old man.
Posted by: geevill | June 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
McCain has said “young man” in speeches when refering to Obama a number of times. As a media darling not a word has EVER been said. When anyone remotely attached to Obama says “confused” “mispeak” or anything about McCain the country cries ageism
Posted by: oldwhiteman | June 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
The content of these blogs is why we need to start funding our education culture more than our war culture
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
JO…he got into the academy because his dad was a General…plus he graduated second from the bottom…A REAL SCHOLAR….ZZEEEzzzz
Posted by: truthtell | June 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
This is ridiculous. Somebody can be confused and out of touch with reality no matter what their age is. This is just another pathetic attempt by the media to try to insinuate something that isn’t there. Don’t let the media shape this election. Most of what they report anymore isn’t even news, it’s more like tabloid fodder. They want to create controversy so they have something to report. What ever happened to objective news?
Posted by: Topher | June 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Obama can just stay in the senate and count his lucky stars he made it that far being the radical that he is.
President? No way. This isn’t a radical nation and we don’t want him.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Since when has age = no wisdom?
The US is one of the only country that does not honor their old. To say that Obama is wiser because he is young is a pretty stupid arguement!
Posted by: DW | June 11, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
McSame’s status is not a question of age but a real question of IQ and level pof education, McSame has a low IQ and is less educated and less intelligent than WBush. America has to understand that reality and make the right choice in November 08.
Posted by: BKMC | June 11, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
geevil…he is borderline senile, but we all have our moments
Posted by: mainegirl | June 11, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Jo – remember, McSame was the last in his class at Anapolis. Alot of his classmates felt that if he wasn’t a “legacy” he never would have gotten in. Kinda reminds me of Bush that way – a guy who never would have made the cut without Daddy’s influence taking up the slot that could have gone to someone who actually earned it. Maybe if McCain had been a better student and paid more attention at the academy, he wouldn’t have gotten himself shot down in Vietnam. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not questioning his heroism – just his basic competence.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Friends, war is not peace. Regardless of what you have been told. Never has been, never will be. Why so angry?
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Geevil, Barack’s grammatical slip is better than McCain promising to “veto every beer!”
Moral of the story is, nobody’s perfect, even the presidential candidates, so lighten up.
Posted by: Topher | June 11, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Jo: Do you really mean what you are writing?
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
TO ALL: Forget the Age Issue just stay with the Facts.
Obama is running for the Second Term of Carter. He is going to RAISE TAXES by the largest margin since WWII. I repeat Sen. Obama is going to raise taxes by the largest margin since WWII. Huh?
He intends to sit down with notorious world leaders without preconditions, yet refuses to meet with American generals in Iraq concerning the progress on the ground. Huh?
His campaign touts his great judgment, but how is it that he took 20 years to distance himself from the controversial figures of Rev. Wright and Catholic priest Rev. Pfleger, when it takes most people (many without a Harvard Law degree) 20 seconds? Huh?
The Obama campaign consistently tries to play the age issue with Sen. McCain, a P.O.W., who served the military when America needed him most, and did not hide behind an Ivy League education.
Sen. McCain is a WAR HERO but more importantly he is an American Hero to all ages, races, and religions, and this is not bound by any barriers including age, it is timeless.
Every voter must ask this question for their own benefit:
Can anyone name an accomplishment of Sen. Obama as a senator?
Wake up America.
This is not change we can believe in; it is most definitely something else.
Posted by: D.R. | June 11, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
From a humanitarian prospective, if we pull out and the country spirals into chaos, who is going to be screaming for us to go back in?
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
RE: “President McCain will do just fine. Anyone who got into the Academy is tops.”
Jimmy Carter will be thrilled to read that comment. Carter finished 59th out of his Academy class of 820.
McCain finished 894th out of 899.
Guess what: there isn’t going to be any President McCain. America isn’t goiing to replace one mediocrity with another in the Oval Office.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Posted by: Bridget | Jun 11, 2008 12:24:29 PM
He can’t remember the difference between Sunni and Shia. Either it’s not important to him or he’s lying to distract the American people. We do not need another President that is capable of both.
Posted by: KS KATTY | June 11, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
When 911 happened, 1.5 million Iranians had a vigil in(Tehran)Iran to honor American Victims. Than came George Bush making them out to be the cause of his problems. Does history ever stop repeating itself. Check the facts. George reacted, than Irans neo-conservatives took back over Iran, and now you have two reactionary goverments, calling each other names, while the people are caught in the middle. The average Iranian is just like you or me, get hip to the world folks. Don’t be a pawn
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Insulting older people and women will no get you elected.
Posted by: tinky | June 11, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Mack – maybe we just have to come to grips with the fact that the Iraqs need to stand up and save themselves. Besides, we’ve got enough problems here at home that need fixing. Think of it this way, how can we save anyone else if we can’t save ourselves? It’s like when you’re in a plane that’s going down and the oxygen masks pass out and the parents have to put their own masks on before they can save their children.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Obama is not presidential material. He cannot debate or deliver a message without tripping over himself. I do not trust Obama. Our enemies are happy to think he will win …. they know he does not have the experience needed. Obama has said he will meet with terrorists regardless of policies now in place. Shame on him. He does not have my vote – a write-in for Hillary or a vote for McCain will come from me.
Posted by: dixiecharms | June 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
When your father and grandfather were both high ranking Admirals, as McCain’s were, getting into the Naval Academy is easy, even for a student with a lousy high school transcript and a wild social life, as with McCain.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
POW families were even more angered when they saw McCain actually bonding with his former torturers during and after the 1992 Senate Select Committee hearings on POW/MIA Affairs. Psychologist have identified behavior in which a prisoner emotionally bonds with an abuser as the Stockholm Syndrome. The first display of bonding occurred when Col. Bui Tin, a former senior colonel in the North Vietnamese Army who had actually interrogated McCain and other U.S. prisoners, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. During a break in the hearing, McCain moved to where Col. Bui Tin was seated. Instead of grabbing Bui Tin by the neck and demanding his arrest for war crimes against U.S. POWs, McCain reached out and warmly hugged his former interrogator as if he were a long lost brother. Never mind that at least 55 American POW were murdered by interrogators and guards while in North Vietnamese prisoner of war camps.
Posted by: UnConvinced | June 11, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Don’t vote
It only encourages the inbreds.
Posted by: Chris Linthwaite | June 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Remember November…What kind of math is that. I don’t remember learning that in school. Please enlighten me. No one takes away the sacrifices and the honor this man has. But being a prison of war in a completely different location, time, era. Doesn’t make you an expert of war. In fact being a prisoner of war more or less takes you away from the realities that are taking place during a war ie..being isloted, not being able to see what’s exactly going on..having no knowledge of anything outside of your POW camp. Additionally it doesn make more or less fit to serve as President of the USA. Maybe I’ll run for President when I retire, I’ve seen combat and I’m headed back to it. I should definitely be elected.
Posted by: Jason | June 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Just to settle the questions. Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug 4 1961…
Posted by: militarymom | June 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
A leader we can bel……Have you seen my keys? Were is that beer I want to veto it!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
John McCain misspoke and corrected himself, this is easy to do for anyone who is speaking about so many places in the middle east, BUT AT LEAST HE KNOWS HOW MANY STATES THERE ARE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!!!!! BHO thinks there are 57….he wants to be president of…….
Posted by: Hope | June 11, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Truthtell,
Who cares? You want another Carter? Obama is another Carter. Carter was incredibly smart. So was Nixon.
So what?
Get use to President McCain.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Hope – If McCain has mispoken then so has Obama with the states thing.
Posted by: What | June 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
more innuendo from Jake Tapper
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
more innuendo from Jake Tapper
Posted by: evan thyme | June 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Exactly TH. Thanks for bringing the discussion back to reality, instead of in the realm of hope, change and make believe.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Sometimes it makes me mad that the standard answer from WH is “We will wait for Gen Petreus’s comment on when to withdraw”. If we are waiting on him to tell the american people when to withdraw, why don’t we make him the Commander In Chief?
Posted by: Zia I. | June 11, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
jerry, You are right!!!!McCain ” war-monger ” is most qualified to be president of I.R.A.Q, President Obama should create and add the “iraq president” potfolio as one of the ministerial posts in his government. McCain the iraqi president,hmmm!sounds good.
Posted by: jerry | June 11, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
dixie…have you checked to see what Bush is doing this week?….He he
Posted by: militarymom | June 11, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
dixiecharms – I guess you must have missed Obama’s impressive performances in the Democratic debates down there in Dixie? Meanwhile, here in the real world, Obama is right – there’s no shame in sitting down and talking with countries like Iran and Cuba (he never said he would talk with terrorists, either – stop lying). Talking is not the same as agreeing or capitulating. And after 8 years of Bush’s failed posturing, simply talking and listening seems like a breath of fresh air.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
mack asks: “From a humanitarian prospective, if we pull out and the country spirals into chaos, who is going to be screaming for us to go back in? ”
We didn’t go back into Saigon. We didn’t go back into Tehran. So if history is the example, no we won’t. We’ll let the Iraquis decide if they really want to continue their civil war.
The harsh reality is if we withdraw and there is not a reasonable semblance of a government, chaos is likely for sometime then a ruling power will emerge. It might be run from Tehran and Damascus. Those that are saying ‘these countries have been fighting for hundreds of years’, these ‘countries’ didn’t exist before 1921. They were part of the Ottoman Empire.
So the question is still what price will be paid as occupiers and is it worth it, or do we come home as prudently fast as possible and turn off CNN World so we don’t have to watch.
This much is certain. Once Bush is out of office, the restraints on the news organizations that saved us from watching a lot of the carnage will be gone. Then we will be seeing it in living color 24x7x365.
Choose wisely, because that screaming will be live.
Posted by: len | June 11, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Jo – if the choice is between another Carter and another Bush, I’ll take another Carter any day of the week.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
If John McCain can talk about Barack Obama being inexperienced, then Barack Obama can talk about John McCain being too old.
The fact of the matter is – McCain is too old, half the time he doesn’t know or remember what he’s talking about. He’ll make America look real smart when he goes blank during his first State of the Union address.
Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | June 11, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I would take another Carter term over Bush’ 2 terms anyday… He didnt send 4K americans to get killed nor he put the country in 9 trillions dollars worth of debt.
Posted by: Joseph007 | June 11, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Jo – Keep dreaming. I predict that Obama will run the tables on McCain. You republicans should have adopted Ron Paul’s noninterventionalist foreign policy. A majority of US citizens do not want another war in the middle east funded by China.
Posted by: Ben Straub | June 11, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I wonder if he still gets enough fiber in his diet.. Oh well at least we don’t have to fear beer anymore. Hopefully he doesn’t get confused and give up the position of our miltary to China or slip up and give them to Iran..
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Older people are NOT voting for Obama. They remember the Carter years all too well. Carter ran on hope and change.
Been there. Done that. Won’t be that stupid again.
Posted by: Jo | June 11, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Obama camp shouldn’t throw the word “confused” around, since Obama has had to stand by so much controversy and then kick everyone to the curb. Confused on Farrakhan, Wright, Trinity, Pfleger? Black Liberation Theology? Muslim? Atheist? Alot of us are confused about Mr. Obama.
McCain knows war….the sacrifice our patriots make when thy ENLIST to serve this great country. He will be the one to bring them home safely and in due time.
McCAIN ALL THE WAY IN ’08!
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I think McCain knows what’s going on just fine.
Posted by: NKC | June 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Senator McCain is right. There are still US troops in Germany and Korea. The only person who is confused because he believes there are 52 states, a great lake in Oregon and has no foriegn policy knowledge whatsoever is Mr Obama.
Posted by: s.b. | June 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
JO…if McCain is president…which I pray he isn’t…we may as well just move to another country. We will have another depression, gas at $5.00 a gallon, everyone loosing their home…
Good luck sweetie, dream on..
Posted by: truthtell | June 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I wonder if he’ll forget were the nukes are?
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Taking a chance on someone with a thicker resume and less questionable associations might be good…but we all know Obama does not fit into that category.
I personally do not see much difference with how quickly we could get out of Iraq between these two. But I do know that I trust McCain a heck of a lot more to get the job done…and well.
Posted by: texas ranger | June 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Debra – Obama knew exactly what he was doing in kicking those fools to the curb. That’s what you do when you’re marching towards the White House. No confusion at all.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
McCain’s a jerk but you can’t tag him with this one. Hell, even ABC misquoted him, but then again, ABC is hardly objective – its entire news team are ardent Obama supporters – one of their people even went to work for his campaign! That’s real objective, right?
I don’t much like McCain, but unlike Obama he doesn’t think there is 57 states. And he didn’t attend a church with an anti-semetic, rascist pastor for 20 years. Or to put it another way, if McCain had been going to a church with a pastor that was as rascist as Obama’s pastor, would he even be allowed to run? Heck no – he would not only have failed at his presidential bid he would have been run out of the Senate as well.
How is it Obama gets a pass? Answer: the mainstream media i.e. the networks, the NY Times, the Washington Post, Time Magazine, Newsweek, CNN and on and on loves him, so he can do no wrong – he can make gaffe after gaffe, admit to using cocaine, or whatever – there is nothing he could do or have done that wouldn’t be excused. Look what they did for Ted Kennedy, that drunken murderer, or Bill Clinton, the misogynist abuser of women. Nothing fazes the mainstream press, if they decide they like you. (and they can discard you if they find something better, as Hillory found out!)
On the other hand, what has Obama done? Answer, not much, and we don’t know much about him because he hasn’t accomplished much of anything. He’s a demagogue, plain and simple, and if he is elected, he won’t know how to govern simply because he hasn’t done it before, never governed, never even run a business. Obama is going to take America right over a cliff, and at this point, I could care less – we are getting what we deserve for not only electing such utter incompetents but allowing ourselves to be led by the nose by a media that is completely and totally amoral, if not overtly sociopathic.
Posted by: B. S. Davis | June 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction”….Barack Hussein Obama, “The Audacity of Hope”.
ruh-roh!
NO OBAMA EVER!
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
s.b. – Bring our troops home. They can contribute soemthing to our local economies here. Germany, Korea, and Japan can take care of themselves.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Jo – I’m 63 years old and a Reagan democrat and I’M voting for Obama. Nice try, but you underesitmate how sick the country is of Republican misrule. Fact is, I remember the Carter years fine – and they weren’t half as bad as the Bush years.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
sb…it was 57 states.
Hmm..kinda strange Obama said that since there are 57 Islam states.
Now who can’t get their facts straight?
Obama can’t even get his lies straight…because there are SO many.
Posted by: Ron in NC | June 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
kissmyass – wrong on both counts. No Republican can win in November, and Obama’s supporters are far from all liberal.
Posted by: ReaganWasRight! | June 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Mark Salter, a top adviser to McCain, said McCain hasn’t been remotely confused on the big picture in Iraq. “He saw it with unbelievable prescience and unbelievable clarity,”
Well, the “unbelievable” part is correct. McCain can’t be trusted with the responsiblity that comes with the presidency. Do you really want his trigger happy finger on the button.
Posted by: JR | June 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
There’s a lot to like and admire about John McCain the man and veteran, but he lacks the cool judgment required in an American President in the nuclear age.
In 1992, at 56 years of age, McCain physically assaulted Senator Grassley in the Senate cloakroom, and had to be forcibly restrained by others.
It’s one thing when a teenager does something like that, but a man pushing 60 should have acquired some emotional maturity by then.
No red telephone should ever be ringing at his bedside. Ever.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
McCain’s a jerk but you can’t tag him with this one. Hell, even ABC misquoted him, but then again, ABC is hardly objective – its entire news team are ardent Obama supporters – one of their people even went to work for his campaign! That’s real objective, right?
I don’t much like McCain, but unlike Obama he doesn’t think there is 57 states. And he didn’t attend a church with an anti-semetic, rascist pastor for 20 years. Or to put it another way, if McCain had been going to a church with a pastor that was as rascist as Obama’s pastor, would he even be allowed to run? Heck no – he would not only have failed at his presidential bid he would have been run out of the Senate as well.
How is it Obama gets a pass? Answer: the mainstream media i.e. the networks, the NY Times, the Washington Post, Time Magazine, Newsweek, CNN and on and on loves him, so he can do no wrong – he can make gaffe after gaffe, admit to using cocaine, or whatever – there is nothing he could do or have done that wouldn’t be excused. Look what they did for Ted Kennedy, that drunken murderer, or Bill Clinton, the misogynist abuser of women. Nothing fazes the mainstream press, if they decide they like you. (and they can discard you if they find something better, as Hillory found out!)
On the other hand, what has Obama done? Answer, not much, and we don’t know much about him because he hasn’t accomplished much of anything. He’s a demagogue, plain and simple, and if he is elected, he won’t know how to govern simply because he hasn’t done it before, never governed, never even run a business. Obama is going to take America right over a cliff, and at this point, I could care less – we are getting what we deserve for not only electing such utter incompetents but allowing ourselves to be led by the nose by a media that is completely and totally amoral, if not overtly sociopathic.
Posted by: B. S. Davis | June 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
D.R.
That Mccain spin about Obama raising the most taxes has now been debunked by just about every news outlet outside your buddy Hannity.
so stop.
This isn’t close to carter…but it is close to BushIII.
and that is spinless.
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
lol can this guy go a day… just ONE DAY without putting his foot up his own butt and then sticking it in his mouth
and someone said above that if the candidates went head to head in gaffes mccian would win
LOL
i dont think so
you need to get news from other sources besides just fox
mccain has flip flopped and gone back on things and blatently lied eveyr day this week
this guy is a gaffe a minute
makes you wonder about everything he says
100 years then by end of term and now not important
doesnt support tax cuts, supports tax cuts
for hte environment agains the environment
promises the world for the economy and has no idea what hes saying other then, no new taxes read his lips, mroe money for everyone, ill get us out of debt, youll all get new cars, ill give you free cash, well reduce the deficit
i mean he might as well promise unicorns as well
LOL
mcinsane
a leader you can gaffe at!
Posted by: bhrandon | June 11, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Breathalyzer? Inhalator?
Posted by: geevill | June 11, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I don’t think Obama and Kerry are trying to pull an “Age” card or attack McCain’s age – though the media will try to make it seem so as will many posters. Truth is that Obama needs the old folks vote too. No, they were trying to distort words to try to cover a big weakness – McCain is better on foreign policy than Obama. In the end, they should just stick to beating up McCain on the bad economy – not his fault, but that should get Obama elected. And McCain needs to quit selling the surge. It is working, but the public doesn’t really care. They want the war over and the economy improving. Both candidates need to focus on what they are going to do about energy specifically and the economy in general. Obama can keep selling that he will bring the troops home fastest – as that is popular -, but should shy away from trying to match military and foreign policy prowess against McCain. McCain needs to play in the economic playground as this is what the election will be about in November – hey, its just my opinion.
Posted by: ElectionEditorial | June 11, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Independent here…
I saw through George W right away…
I was right then, and I am right that Obama would do a much worse job.
McCain 08
Posted by: texas ranger | June 11, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
B.S Davis
From the words coming out of their mouths (and the ones in their policy proposals that you have obviously not read)Obama seems to know a lot more about governing this country then McCain does.
Posted by: dl | June 11, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I have been wondering about the endorsement mccain got from hagee. Why did it take him so long to denounce it? This has made a lot of the Catholic voters suspicious of mccain. I’m starting to think that he just forgot about it, or was he just “confused” about it.
Posted by: pt | June 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
At least McCain’s been to Iraq recently – sheesh!! Get real!
Posted by: MJ | June 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Obama is disgusting. The first thing I thought when I read that he had called McCain “confused” was that he was implying that he was too old to make rational judgments. I cannot stand Obama. It scares me that the bar for the job of President of the United States has been lowered enough that a Jr. Senator (who had only worked 100 and some odd days in the senate) could even be considered for the job.
I’m looking forward to rev. Wright’s book! ANYONE BUT OBAMA
Posted by: Help us | June 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I’m a Veteran (USAF), proud black man and waning Democrat. This exchange disgusts me to my core. When BO makes a mistake his cronies are quick to point out the fact that he made a mistake, I mean before the ink dries on the story they’ve already issued a statement correcting this imbecile. I would like to point out a character flaw in “Mr. BO”. He’s only just learned to distance himself from divisive, inflammatory hate mongers. I would’ve expected him to have learned a lesson from the first idiot, Rev. Wright, but no he had to go and do it a second time. This is more disturbing to me more than anything else. It proves this guy is just in this thing for the historical shot in the arm. At the end of the day, he and his family will care no more, do no more or lose sleep at night while the rest of us suffer behind his ignorance and stupidity. He doesn’t have the wherewithal to get out of a wet paper bag that’s been soaking in water for as long as he’s been a Senator. BO’s platform on change disturbs me. He hasn’t formulated a definitive plan on exactly how he’s going to “Change” Washington. His speeches are filled with a bunch of empty promises and useless rhetoric geared at getting a crowd of folks to clap so we can’t really hear what he’s saying. He and his wife are only just now “proud to be Americans”. Words like these give White Supremacists the grounds to say, “I told you so”. Michelle, needs to wake up and realize the land she stands on is America. If you don’t like it, the get the HELL off. You and your imbecile of a husband. I’ve already decided to cross party lines and vote for Senator McCain. I will be able to at least sleep at night knowing the my fellow Americans in uniform are going to be able to kick ass and ask questions later. We’re Americans for goodness sakes, when did we start giving a damn what the rest of the world thought. BO is going to hold a slumber party and ask them how the feel about us, BS! Don’t ask them, tell them, let’s make our country what it used to be, STRONG!
Posted by: Marcus (Omaha, NE) | June 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
If one cannot look at Grandpa Mc and tell he is senile and delusional at best, off the deep end at worst then I suggest you are not looking. In fact, your eyes most assuredly have blinders on them. Age does matter, and in this case it is an enormous issue.
I am 64, and even were I qualified to be POTUS I would be honest enough to admit the fact I’m simply too old. McC should be honest enough – which he isn’t – to do the same. He is literally a joke. Sorry Sir, but the bathroom is down the hall on the left. You do remember which is left, don’t you?
The worst part even yet is (slaps self upside head) he is Bushie all over again with an “R” tattooed right in the middle of his wrinkled forehead.
Posted by: Ellen | June 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Jo – I just hope that you are not a beer drinker. You know he meant it deep down. When you get older it gets harder to keep such engrained feelings down. I bet Cindy is pisssed.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
I tell you John McCain is the flawed candidate!
…just the way he robotically walks around in a slow stupor grinning(showing his awful brown & yellow teeth)is evidence enough that he is controlled by someone other than John McCain.
He is no hero…but a traitor!
Wake up America
Posted by: Marsha | June 11, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
In a 1992 visit to Hanoi, McCain warmly greeted Vietnam Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet, who had been a ranking Communist Party member of the secret Viet Cong National Liberation Front Central Committee during the Vietnam War.
As a senior Central Committee member, Kiet was responsible for helping formulate Viet Cong policy, which included ordering American POWs to be punished by execution.
On orders issued by Kiet’s Viet Cong Central Committee, three U.S POWs, Special Forces Capt. “Rocky” Versace, Special Forces Sgt. Kenneth Mills Roraback and Army Sgt. Harold Bennett were publicly executed by the Viet Cong on Sunday, Sept. 26, 1965
Posted by: UnConvinced | June 11, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Election is a moron…
I read many blogs and it is obvious that Obama’s bloggers are coordinating to attack McCain age.
Most voters won’t care in the long run. Heck, his mom is 98.
It is a shame that Obama’s supporters poke fun at age. It is mean spirited and shows the true character of some of his supporters…and lack of maturity.
Posted by: linda | June 11, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Election is a moron…
I read many blogs and it is obvious that Obama’s bloggers are coordinating to attack McCain age.
Most voters won’t care in the long run. Heck, his mom is 98.
It is a shame that Obama’s supporters poke fun at age. It is mean spirited and shows the true character of some of his supporters…and lack of maturity.
Posted by: linda | June 11, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
MCAIN FLIP FLOPPER FLIP FLOPPER FLIP FLOPPER FLIP FLOPPER HE SURE DOES KNOW HOW TO FLIP FLOP ALOT THIS MAN IS GONNA DESTROY US BEWARE OF MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 11, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Marie says “And I do not agree with the surge. Of course it worked. You put more troops in the violence will go down.”
You do not agree, becuase you do not want to win I suppose. You note of course it worked, yet your candidate said it would not work.
“OBAMA: We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops; 20,000 more troops; 30,000 more troops. Uh, I don’t know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I’ve spoken to, uh, privately that believes that that is gonna make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground”.
Posted by: geevill | June 11, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Birth certificates, verbal gaffes…the right wingers have screwed up our military, our economy, our industrial base, our constitution and much more. They have zero credibility on real issues, so they want us to focus on BS and not on issues like Bush’s tax incentives to export jobs to India or to Mexico. Ignore that Bush’s “tax cuts” got replaced with higher local and sales taxes and thereby only produced net tax savings for billionaires. Just, *please* don’t look at how badly the republicans have screwed things up. Instead, be afraid of Obama’s middle name… or try hard to really believe that he truly doesn’t know how many states there are. Come on, I know you voters must be stupid enough to be distracted by this crap – it has worked before!
Posted by: exfl | June 11, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
I am voting McCain because he wants to kill more people. We all know the world is too populated. Save the resources vote McCain!!!
Posted by: McCain is the greatest | June 11, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Len, thank you for the well thought out response to my superficial rant. It’s nice to see that there are thinkers on the board.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
President McCain will do just fine. Anyone who got into the Academy is tops.
McCain got into the Academy because his father and grandfather was Admirals and he still managed to graduate 894th out of 899.
Posted by: KS KATTY | June 11, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Get a grip people, this is what campaigning is about – always blaming the other guy (the blame game). Everyone has slips of tougne every now and then – some more than others.
So let’s stick to the real issues!
Posted by: My Daddy | June 11, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
If I see Obama do one more phony knuckle bump, I am going to puke. We don’t need some who is cool and hip-hop. We need someone who can clean this mess up and neither of these two have a clue. McCain is out of touch, but Obama has never been in touch except with his own coolness. He’s worried about getting the Independents and Republicans when he couldn’t even get half of the Democrats to vote for him.
Posted by: KC+1971 | June 11, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
I see all of those educated Obama supporters are out in full force today .. what’s wrong – Phoenix University and/or Devry closed today?
Posted by: MJ | June 11, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
jpt – mccain called obama “confused” in a speech on 2/19, yet no one claimed ageism then. what’s with all the free passes and right wing water carrying?
Posted by: Steve | June 11, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Manchurian candidate is McCain?
Yeah right…I have only seen this in reference to Obama…
does that blogger even know what this means?
Posted by: Kim | June 11, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
So McCain says something stupid, but now it’s Obama’s fault?
lol
My, we are getting desperate, aren’t we?
Obama/Biden ’08/’12
Posted by: Nobodys fool | June 11, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
>>> At least McCain’s been to Iraq recently – sheesh!! Get real! <<<
Yes, I understand the shopping is lovely…
Posted by: cfb | June 11, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Change by mind control should be Obama’s mantra.
Posted by: stephanie | June 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Senator Barack Obama, the man that is running on a campaign platform that is as old as the hills “Change”; played the race card and the sexist card during the primary. So, why would anyone be surprised that this “empty suit politician” not stoop to playing the age card against Senator John McCain? Barack can pretend to be the “new style politician” all he darn well wants, but Americans are not that stupid. If he walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, he’s a typical politician duck.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | June 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
yomama – Cheney and Rumsfeld have a wealth of experience and we see where that has taken us. Obama and Ron Paul were on the correct side of the war issue. There is no disputing that unless you are a delusional.
Posted by: Ben Straub | June 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Ron Paul for president. Non-interference policy.
Posted by: notagain | June 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
linda – Calling people morons says more about the caller than the subject – but feel free. It amuses me. By the way, I stand by what I said – Obama needs the old folks votes too. Oh yes, I am probably voting for McCain as well – so you Obama bloggers feel free to call me a Moron as well. :)
Posted by: ElectionEditorial | June 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Some people seem to be confused about the difference between age and mental ability. If all you are basing your opinion of someone on is how long it has been since they were born, *that* is wrong, because age is not directly a cause of concern. However, it is entirely fair to critisize someone’s mental ability, especially when they are running for an office like president.
Posted by: Nick B | June 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
B.S. Davis…Obama gets a pass because we have different rules for blacks….hands off everybody. Ageism towards McCain will be tolerated, as was blatent sexism towards Hillary. I will not stand by and watch someone get elected just BECAUSE he is black.
Obama could have a criminall record and they would still pass him through. Just as all the blacks I knew thought O.J. was innocent…and look how that turned out.
NO WAY OBAMA….POOR JUDGEMENT OBAMA.
McCain would have been forced out of this race if he had RELATIONSHIPS with Wright, Trinity, Pfleger, Ayers, Rezko…and his angry militant wife Michelle, doesn’t help him much in my eyes, either.
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
On February 19, 2008 McCain attacked Obama over the issue of AlQaeda and Pakistan, saying Obama offered “confused
leadership.” Was MCain playing the age ccard? Did Jake Tapper cover it? No to both.
Did this blog overlook what was cconfusing about McCain’s statement? Yes.
Posted by: Ricky | June 11, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Obama is the Dem version of Bush..
An inexperienced idiot who surrounds himself by experienced idiots who use him to further their own aspirations of Power…
and screw up the country in the process
Posted by: Indie Here | June 11, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Obama is the Dem version of Bush..
An inexperienced idiot who surrounds himself by experienced idiots who use him to further their own aspirations of Power…
and screw up the country in the process
Posted by: Indie Here | June 11, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Dear Mr Tapper,
Again you choose to stir up controversy on something trivial and avoid to tackle the real issue. The question is about the nature of country . Senator Mc Cain here just as Vice-president has done before is making misleading comparison between Iraq, Korea and even Germany.
Yes, he mentioned July as when General Petraeus will recommend a reduction of our troops presence. However, there is no antagonism here, after the war in Korea, some of our troops came back while we kept our military presence there.
Anyway, to compare Korea or Germany to Iraq shows a lack of historical and cultural perspective. Iraq is a fractured society that has been kept together by a ruthless power. We are now policing the fight for power between the tribal factions there. Worse, we have put somme of our former enemies on our payroll (300 dollars/month for former sunnis insurgents now members of the sons of Iraq)to have some peace. On the other hand, we strengthened our worse enemy, since Maliki who is our man can do nothing without the tacit approval of Iran, who has outplayed us by backing all the factions in the shia-shia intra-fighting. Maliki, was in Iran this week, where Khameni who is the only person with real executive power and not Ahmajenidjad (tell that to Senator Mc Cain!!!) told him that the problem is the US presence, our government request of 58 bases is now opposed even by some members of the Dawa Party (Maliki’s party).
The real issue here is: should we agree for colonial adventuring in the Middle East? The mighty British Empire tried and miserably failed. Worse, there is no country or empire in the history who has kept his military powerful while his economy was declining. This is the first war that is entirely financed by debt. So much for fiscal responsibility. Senator Mc Cain will keep the tax cuts that he opposed for reasons of war before he decided to run for presidency, but sees nothing wrong on spending 12 billions a month with our credit card, jeopardizing the future generations who will have to pay for this. No journalist will ask him, how the younger generations will pay for this at the same time when our economy is losing jobs. 70% of Americans are homeowners, for the first in 70 years home equities have gone down. The middle class is being squeezed, while the cost of food, gas, Healthcare have gone up. Senator Mc Cain is proposing that we keep on spending money that we don’t have in Iraq while opposing any policy to spend money on rebuilding our own country and investing in future generations who will have to pay for this war
Posted by: joelle | June 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
notagain – I am writing Paul in. At least I will excited about voting this time.
Posted by: Ben Straub | June 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
The worst thing that will happen to this country will be McCain’s presidency,I am better0ff letting the blacks have their first taste of the presindency than to have McCain continue from where bush stopped. Down the drain.
Posted by: john | June 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
LOL!!!! Thats a good one. Man that guy reminds me of the night of the liveng dead movies.. I think his flesh will start rotting any minute now. BRAINS!!!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Obama is the Dem version of Bush..
An inexperienced idiot who surrounds himself by experienced idiots who use him to further their own aspirations of Power…
and screw up the country in the process
Posted by: Indie Here | June 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I agree CFB – hopefully Obama will visit and let Michelle check out the scenery all by herself!
Posted by: MJ | June 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
If John McCain can make comments that are “confusing” to us, what will happen when he needs to communicate with people who are trying to figure out what he means in other languages and from other cultures? It seems to me that one of the most important qualifications our next president should have is that he/she be able to communicate clearly with all comers.
Posted by: Carol | June 11, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
The perception of “age” and “confused” seems to be with how media and spinsters want to link one side’s opinion of the other or what they want others to perceive. I do not see anything in either the quotes or the remarks about Senator McCain by the Obama camp as “aged” or demented – I do see them clearly and correctly attacking his position and politely saying since troops coming home isn’t important as a tad confused. Politely saying a man running for President is confused is a whole lot different than saying a man running for President is old and isn’t thinking logically (which in reality is correct – but what a field day the media and the military industrial complex would have with that one.) The young men and women of the military under the direction of military brass (which in most cases are old coggers to begin with) hardly need someone who is “confused” in charge – an elitist Commmander-in-Chief linked at the hip with older coggers and military brass is now out of touch with those whose blood is running in the sands and who need to be brought home. If within the next six month, year or 100 years from now when we withdraw there will be a blood bath inside Iraq – why? Because as an occupying force we have done nothing but continue a war while the profiteers and puppet government have done nothing to establish stability and reconciliation – no amount of military presence is going to change that – history (devoid of GWB’s administration) gives credence to one thing – solutions within Iraq (because of GWB’s failures and leading this nation astray) are going to be as difficult as straightening out the mess the Republicans (and this includes Senator McCain) are leaving behind. And if Senator McCain is confused about that – then either he is too old, or just plain on the wrong side of common sense.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | June 11, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Hillary Clinton tried that “Obama is too inexperienced” approach. It’s a losing tactic. If you want “experience”, write in Cheney’s name.
Obama is going to tie McCain closely to the man more unpopular than Jeremiah Wright: George W. Bush. That will be decisive.
No exaggeration. Accoring to RasmussenReports.com, 58% of Americans are opposed to Wright, 67% are opposed to Bush.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
It is quite obvious that there are the same people here…Obama supporters..who use different names.
They crack jokes mostly and respond to one another…half the time they are responding to themself…LOL
Don’t our youth have better things to do when they are off for the summer?
Posted by: Ronnie | June 11, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Imagine this guy answering the 3 oclock call. He would probably do something unimaginable in this kind of state of mind.
Confuses sunni with shia, don’t know who trains sunnu and shia, doesn’t know if Iran is a sunni or shia, wants to stay in iraq for 100 years, again wants to withdraw in 2013, again he doesn’t mean setting time table. We are at pre-surge level, oh no almost at pre-surge level, hold on we will be at pre surge level. Damn stop him. I better stop, my head hurts when I think about everything he says.
Posted by: tony | June 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
During the Cold War, USSR was the enemy.
Now the Middle East is the enemy? Why? Because Reagan/Bush regimes produced terrorists (Rumsfeld gave Saddam WMD, remember?). Because in 1953 the CIA, supported by Republican majorities, overthrew the Democratic Iranian government and installed the Shah.
I am a Christian who can tell that W is no Christian. You all who voted for him and supported him followed the Devil, like Revelations spoke of. Those who lie and destroy fine institutions in our country don’t follow Jesus.
FOX NEWS, using numerology, is 666 News. Think about it.
Please don’t vote McCain.
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
erb – I would be curious to see the percentages on Hagee. I bet it is up there with Bush.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Funny how someone like Barack who refuses to prove he’s an American citizen has the gall to question anything McCain says.
Let’s clear the air – the Dems are either dupes, collaborators, or willing participants in the destruction on the American military, because they are all communists. Barack Lenin will not be elected.
Posted by: Armand | June 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Everybody who’s saying Obama will raise taxes. Do you realize how much the war is costing us? Every single American citizen owes around a couple hundred bucks for the WAR. I’d rather use my couple hundred bucks to invest in education, health care, alternative energy and the environment.
I think everybody supporting the war should foot the bill and have to explain to military families why exactly their sons, daughters, husbands, wives, dads, moms, brothers, sisters and friends are dying in Iraq.
Posted by: Topher | June 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Confused isn’t the right word…..how bout stupid. I can’t grasp that repubs. are even supproting this guy look what happened with Dole
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Lesson 101 – Senator Obama would not be in the Senate and given access to classified documents or sensitive material without a security clearance or some form of background investigation. So the notion to think Senator Obama is an operative for the Arab world is ridiculous and foolish. We should be concerned about this fool in office and anyone willing to follow his lead…
Posted by: Martin | June 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Armand – What a dumb comment. Last I checked Ron Paul had recieved more contributions from active duty military than any other candidate. This means that they do not wnat to be there. If Obama holds this position then more power to him.
Posted by: Huh | June 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
It’s not important was the correct answer to the question! He, McCain was asked if “he” McCain” had a better feeling of when troops would be coming home following the successful surge. How is his guess at this point in time of any importance? Should he say “real soon” soon? Ten years? No matter what answer he gives, it has no impact and by definition is not important. He is not CIC…yet, and does not dictate military movements. Sending any message at this point can do no good for the troops or Iraq’s view of what we may or may not be willing to do.
Posted by: Rob | June 11, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
One thing is old…the 100 year comment.
Anyone who actually believes that McCain wants to be over there longer than necessary is a ill-informed.
McCain a warmonger? Again…nonsense
Do tell…how will Obama get us out any sooner and leave an Iraq that will be stable and self sufficient?
What is Obama’s plan?
How will he pay for his social programs? With the money saved from the war that he promises to end sooner than anyone else?
Nice…let’s spend money we don’t even have yet…now that’s a promise you can take to the bank huh?
Posted by: Indie Here | June 11, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
These are McCains own words on july 31 2000 in an interview with Jim Lehrer about his ability to run in 2008:
JIM LEHRER: Finally, for the record, you have not lost your desire to be President of the United States, have you?
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: Certainly it’s been put in deep cold storage.
JIM LEHRER: But you haven’t lost it?
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: Well, in 2004, I expect to be campaigning for the reelection of President George W. Bush, and by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.
8 years ago he understood he would be to old to run for president, yet here he is.
Posted by: Get Real | June 11, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Obama is the Dem version of Bush..
An inexperienced idiot who surrounds himself by experienced idiots who use him to further their own aspirations of Power…
and screw up the country in the process
………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Indie, you are completely wrong,how can you compare obama with bush, Bush is an idiot while obama is smart.this (judgement of yours) goes all the way to show how intelligent you are,”Majority carries the vote”,God save America!! at least,during this period of war,high cost of everything including high cost of intelligence and common sense.
Posted by: john | June 11, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Older people are NOT voting for Obama. They remember the Carter years all too well. Carter ran on hope and change.
Been there. Done that. Won’t be that stupid again.
Posted by: Jo | Jun 11, 2008 1:19:44 PM
Carter won because Nixon was a corrupt, lying pol, who used illegal practices for political gain. Sounds just like the last 8 years under Bush.
Posted by: Mobring | June 11, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
McCain is comparing our military presence in Iraq to that in Germany? Economics isn’t the only thing he’s weak on. “Confused” is kind.
Posted by: cturple | June 11, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Yeah Joe..
looked what happened with Kerry and Gore…nice try with Dole though…not
Posted by: Marie | June 11, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
REMEMBER NOVEMBER
Owing McCain the presedency? McCain and the republicans have been short changing Vets for decades, if he does not think that we owe vets a good GI Bill then why do we owe him four years a president?
Posted by: Sanity Man | June 11, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
“Older people are NOT voting for Obama.”
Actually, new polling shows he leads McCain with older women, 51-44
Posted by: Goon | June 11, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Indie Here – Anybody that wants to bomb, bomb, Iran is a warmonger.
Posted by: Sally | June 11, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
I would rather have an old american hero than a young anti american in the white house.
Posted by: del | June 11, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Wow! Now we have daily gaffes and denials from McCain. He does seem more out of touch and confused than one would expect of a 71 year old. He might need to slow down some, maybe even get his health checked again. These low-stress, small, town hall meetings might help him some. Unfortunately for him, the only thing these town halls are generating is more talk of his mental disability and gaffes. None of the TV news play even a fraction of these tiny gatherings. How are these town hall meetings supposed to help McCain get votes? He needs desperately to raise money to pay for his upcoming attack ads on Obama. The ads are his only chance. He can’t sell himself or his policies, so he will need to tear down Obama, like Hillary attempted to do, with false innuendos, etc. Good luck with that.
Posted by: Jillian | June 11, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Obama’s no better please!!!!
Obama wouldn’t know honesty if it jumped up and bit him…He’s nothing more than gutter trash.
He sat in the pews of a church and heard nothing in reference to his illustrious pastor that was derogatory……He realized how STUPID that sounded so, he launched this master speech that would set the record straight.. Even had the audacity(love this word) to tell US that WE had racial issues. I like that touch! I guess he would know coming from a racially charged atmosphere for two decades. Made this bit production of Hillary’s tax information which revealed nothing we didn’t already probably know. But, have received campaign contributions far exceeding their total 8 year gross income…Oh my goodness that one is crazy.
Took questionable donations from none other Tony Rezko……But was the only living soul in Chicago that didn’t know the dynamics associated to him. Didn’t know him still even though he sold you the house and lived right next door…… I love it!
Can’t be held responsible you were oblivious of everything that was going on around you. Receiving money from unregistered lobbyist, their families, as well as other business associates….. But, because they were unregistered it was OK……. Call that a little double standard wouldn’t you say? Didn’t understand the voting process while in the Senate and oops my Senate records mysteriously disappeared.. Yeah right! EVERYBODY is looking at him like maybe we have a nut loose.
He made this great BIG issue oh my god Hillary has embellished her trip to Bosnia she is not to be trusted…But you on the other hand…..This next one is one of my personal favorites he truly should be nominated for an award……….
Your father was airlifted into America by way of the Kennedy’s in 1959. Story brought a tear to my eye of how your parents were able to meet through the kindness of the Kennedy’s…….Unfortunately your father came here in 1960 the air lift had already occurred……So that says…. It never happened!
Posted by: kerry | June 11, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
kerry – Too long
Posted by: Too long Kerry | June 11, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
john
Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Wilson & FDR, Eisenhour, all great Presidents that lacked long term office. Your argument has just crumbled.
Posted by: Sanity Man | June 11, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Oh, it’s going to be funny when McCain loses many conservative anti-war votes to Bob Barr. He’ll be the Ralph Nader of this campaign, rightfully earning the votes of Ron Paul Republicans wary of McCain’s war mongering ways. This, of course will effectively help put Barack Obama in the Oval Office come January. McCain, by the way, is very confused. It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with his consistent double talk on almost every issue.
He says withdrawing at least some of our overextended troops is not too important and won’t support the GI Bill to give Veterans a better chance to afford higher education. Yeah, he’s a real champion for his fellow veterans. Being one himself you’d think he’d like to treat them better.
Posted by: Topher | June 11, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama enlisted in the black liberation army 20 years ago.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Ageism isn’t the issue. McCain was pretty slow as a youngster.
No one who saw Lloyd Bentsen mopping the floor with Dan Quayle in their televised debate can grant any automatic intellectual edge to youth.
(Clint Eastwood, anytime you want to run for President, you’ll have my vote.)
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
DOES ANYONE know who Obama is?? In the history of all elections, I have never encountered a candidate so void of substance who allows his handlers free reign. This “higher life form” of politician, portraying himself as “ABOVE” political slandering, simply allows his handlers to do the hatchet jobs. China, Israel and many other countries that venerate age have no problem with older leaders. Nor should we. Obama has ZERO experience. Shame Hillary didn’t take the nomination.
Posted by: gtriver | June 11, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
This sleaze-bag threw the race card up at, of all people, the Clintons every chance he could (subtly, of course, so he could deny it later.) Now he’s gonna do the same thing with age toward McCain. I hope people come to see through this idiot’s game. When you have nothing to say on the issues, then start name-calling. McCain is a man of integrity and dignity. Something Obama can’t even conceive of.
Posted by: Jules | June 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
DO YOU WANT OPRAH (WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN BIBLE)
DO YOU WANT FARRAHKHAN (ANTI-WHITE)
DO YOU WANT PASTOR WRIGHT(GOD DA*N*AMERICA)
DO YOU WANT MICHELLE OBAMA(PROUD OF USA FOR 1ST TIME)
DO YOU WANT REZKO
DO YOU WANT WILLIAM AYERS
DO YOU WANT LARRY SINCLAIR
DO YOU WANT TED KENNEDY
DO YOU WANT KERRY
DO YOU WANT BLACK PANTHER
DO YOU WANT HAMMAS
DO YOU WANT JESSE JACKSON
DO YOU WANT AL SHARPTON
DO YOU WANT THESE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE
IF NOT ,,
THEN GET TO WORK
VOTE FOR MCCAIN!
Posted by: kerry | June 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
McCain has experience. After all, I believe Warren Harding considered him as his VP before selecting Coolidge.
Posted by: Eddie | June 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Yes James, remember Katrina? It sure wasn’t BO down there helping raise money!! I believe it was a Clinton!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | June 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I will take an experienced candidate against one that makes promises and has a shady character and friends to match. McCain is not looking for anything like his opponent and taking favors from them. I do not trust Obama.
Posted by: sarah mc man | June 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
MCCAIN WALKED OUT ON THE POW/MIA FAMILIES AND CALLED THEM ‘NUTS’.
HE MADE 32 PROPAGANDA FILMS WITH THE PAVN CALLING HIMSELF A WAR CRIMINAL.
HE WAS DEBRIEFED BY VO NGUYEN GIAP, AND GAVE UP US BOMBING STRATEGY…
THE MAN ONLY ESCAPED COUTRS-MARTIAL BECAUSE HIS DADDY WAS COMMANDER OF US NAVAL FORCES IN THE PACIFIC.
LATE HE WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN CORRUPTION AS A MEMBER OF THE ‘KEATING-FIVE’.
HE WAS ALSO A FRIEND OF JOE BONNANO, THE MAFIA”S US DON.
NOW HE’S SENILE.
THIS GUY IS BAD NEWS.
Posted by: CHUCK | June 11, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
If McCain really believes that it is unimportant whether we maintain a presence in Iraq similar to South Korean, Japan, or Germany then I don’t think he is confused…He is just wrong-headed (aka stupid) on the issue. We should get out of Iraq completely within the next year as Obama proposes….BTW, did anyone see the ABC report that housing is booming in Iraq, people are flipping houses and making a fortune, and no one pays a mortgage? Why isn’t this money that is flying around from Iraqis going back into into building Iraqi infrastructure? Similar answer to that is it doesn’t need to since the US is footing the bill. That is a prime example of why we must leave a.s.a.p. Iraqis are not invested enough in their own future and never will be as long as their country is being propped up by the US.
Posted by: indy_voter | June 11, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
“Playing the age card?” is the top story on the ABC web page. Didn’t you folks at ABC get it when both McCain and Obama turned down your offer to host a “town meeting?”
Posted by: Ricky | June 11, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
I tell you John McCain is the flawed candidate!…just the way he robotically walks around in a slow stupor grinning(showing his awful brown & yellow teeth)is evidence enough that he is controlled by someone other than John
He must have gotten his dentures from his old friend, George Washington.
Posted by: LOL | June 11, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
McCain graduated 894th out of 899 at the Naval academy. Slow and confused is nothing new for him. Barrack on the other hand graduated in the top 1% of his class at Harvard with honors. Do the math and don’t be bamboozled by the politics of fear that has driven the dollar into the ground with the most deficit spending in our short history. Gas was $1.47 a gallon when Bush took over.
Posted by: Greg | June 11, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Republicans chose bush before McCain,it tells alot,if bush is better than McCain it then means we are in for more trouble,if the republicans were wrong in choosing bush first,it then means republican judgement is a big question,including their judgement in choosing McCain
Posted by: john | June 11, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Yea I heard that the Iraqi government has a huge stock pile of money.. So why aren’t they paying us for security? They should be the ones signing these Blackwater contracts if they want that kind of help! Screw Iraq we need to leave!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Man, Obama is just like Bush Jr. even right down to the crazy pastors he surrounds himself with.
His supporters are rabid, like Bushies.
He talks about, “yes we can” while Bush said, “yes American can” (slight difference)
He has problems with geography, history and numbers. George is an idiot too.
He’s got powerful coporate moguls backing his candidacy. So does Bush Jr.
He has “structured” media events where only his supporters are allowed. Hmm, so does Bush Jr.
He hates the Clintons and blames them for everything. So does Bush Jr.
He consorts with radicalists from the left, Georgie consors with radicalists on the right. (slight difference…let’s not quibble).
SAY IT WITH ME EVERYONE! FOUR MORE YEARS!
Posted by: kerry | June 11, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
It is amazing that every article now becomes a slam on Obama and a Praise report for Clinton, these people will be protesting all the way to Jan 20th and beyond. I can just see the protest signs every time a bill goes up for a vote. HILLARY WON LEAVE NOW rofl
Posted by: Get Real | June 11, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
TO: Sally, behonest, Vote McCain-Feel the PAIN-Don’t Complain,
dl, and all other Obama supporters.
Stick to the facts concerning Sen. Obama:
He intends to sit down with notorious world leaders without preconditions, yet refuses to meet with American generals in Iraq concerning the progress on the ground. Huh?
His campaign touts his great judgment, but how is it that he took 20 years to distance himself from the controversial figures of Rev. Wright and Catholic priest Rev. Pfleger, when it takes most people (many without a Harvard Law degree) 20 seconds? Huh?
CHALLENGE TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS:
Where was the great judgment regarding Tony Rhezko, William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rev. Pfleger, Jim Johnson, Emil Jones, and Rashid Khalidi?
He has been endorsed by President Carter for a second term of Carter.
Welcome Back Carter!
Posted by: D.R. | June 11, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
MCcain seems to suffer from serious mental deficit knowns as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
he suffered during his captivity as a POW. he seems struggling with “imaginary demons” within himself.
If anyone looks at his campaign from 2000 you will see he is an obvious flip flopper or suffering from alzheimers.
If McCain’s experience could not help him vote against the Iraq war, how will it help him make America safer and better by conytinuing failed Bush policy?
Posted by: kevin | June 11, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Did anyone actually watch this interview? I did! He did not say that troop withdrawal was not important at all. He said that it was not as important as lowering troop casualties while we still keep a presense like we do in many other countries. This is just another attempt to confuse the voters by the AllweBroadcastisCrapola network.
Posted by: Jules | June 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
indy_voter
You’re right. Iraq has a $300billion surplus and we are going broke.
Also McCain says occupying Iraq is not important. One of the leading reasons why terrorists targeted the US is because they were offended by bases in Saudi Arabia. Now why do we want to remain in Iraq and encourage terrorism again? republicans just don’t get foreign policy.
Posted by: Sanity Man | June 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
It is unfortunate that people have to misuse the names of candidates running for office (i.e. Mcsame, McBush, etc). Regardless of your political views at least show respect for people who take huge risks in running for office and serving people. Good people can disagree.
Posted by: ms1236 | June 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
OBAMA IS A FRAUD
Posted by: TH | June 11, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Keep Carter II out of the white house. Been there, done that, doesn’t work. No Obama ever.
Posted by: Mack | June 11, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
So the next 5 months are set; Youth and inexperience vs. old age and treachery. Great choice!
Posted by: LongT | June 11, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
kerry , My happiness is you are in minority, wether you like it or not,the primary season is over Obama won and hillary supported and endorsed him,so whats your problem??
Posted by: john | June 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
McCain confused? It was Obama who said we have 57 states. It was Obama who said 10,000 people died in a midwest tornado, when the real figure was 10. Should I go on?
Posted by: bby | June 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Posted by: Kim | Jun 11, 2008 1:34:57 PM
As a response to your question: (that I don’t actually believe)
Manchurian candidate means he was held as a prisoner of war for 5 1/2 years being brainwashed to be elected to the highest office in the land and do the bidding of his captors.. Yeah, I saw the movie.
Posted by: Udall | June 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Joe – give up .. you’re never going to win the debate about taxes when you’re a Democrat. Their whole agenda is “take” from those who’ve succeeded and “hand out” to those who haven’t. Meanwhile – they’ll tell you to get a good education sooooo .. they can “take” from you when you’re successful. I call BS on that!!
Posted by: MJ | June 11, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Obama forgot that he’s attended the church of a radical for 20+ years and McCain is confused?
Posted by: Jerry | June 11, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
ms1236
Sometimes you don’t poke things that will hurt you with a stick. It does not mean that you won’t defend yourself if you have to, it just means that you may not have to defend yourself if you do not offend others.
Posted by: Sanity Man | June 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
What did he say that would make people doo doo in their pants with excitement?
Posted by: Jazz | June 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
spare me the McCain hero worship and that he is better at foreign policy. He is no hero and how is this for foriegn policy: The fact that McCain ADMITS, both in an interview in the May 14, 1973, issue of U S News & World Report and in his autobiography Faith of My Fathers that, being unhappy with the fact that his captors weren’t giving him medical treatment after only four days in custody, he OFFERED to provide the military information which they requested in return for that treatment. That, and not the identity of his father, was why his captors took him to the hospital for treatment. Then, in the hospital, he gave the Vietnamese valid, valuable, current, pertinent military information (the name of his ship, his squadron designation and his target) in return for treatment.
Let’s be blunt. Through those actions, McCain betrayed the oath he took when joining the military (and, as a result, he betrayed his country, his country’s Navy, his ship and his shipmates) for personal gain. Knowing that, it escapes me why anyone would want this man as president much less laud him as a hero simply because he lived.
Posted by: Katie Kavanaugh | June 11, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
“……….
And he ditched his first wife who was drastically injured in favor of a rich trophy wife (who has had past legal troubles of her own).
That what you want, America?
Posted by: James | Jun 11, 2008 1:30:57 PM
____
Right!
Let’s do to Mccain what we did to Hillary……
Better yet, let’s do to B O ZO what we did to Clinton!
You’ll note that Obama didn’t “engage in these attacks”; he never does!
He has his little bloggers always on call, always eager to draw blood from any candidate by slinging rocks and mud…. among other, even dirtier detrium.
And of course, we all know that B O is the epitome of expertise when it comes warfare and strategies.
I notice that Obama has used this skill in the past; unfortunately, he wasn’t too successful in decreasing the death toll in his war torn districts of Chicago …and points south!
There was a time when age was revered for it’s knowledge. Some civilizations
STILL venerate it…… but, as we are constantly told, OBAMA is all about CHANGE…
as in “up with sexism”..
as in “let’s use racism as a political ploy”..
as in ” let’s see what we can do with
age-ism”..
I think B O would be a great preacher.
I would be happy to throw him under a bus…. if I could stand the sight of blood….
None theless:
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!
Posted by: QUESTIONER | June 11, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
I’m the one who is confused….if you get a full military disability pension do you get to be Commander-in-Chief at the same time and get paid for being disabled and abled all at once? You see people you can spin the crap out of things – stop it! And the media needs to stop it! Mr. Tapper, Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric et al – this nation is not about to elect “Celebrity Spinner of the Decade” and if your job is nothing more than to pick-up on little pieces of dung while the world, this nation and our communities face disaster, disease, death and destruction – then please excuse yourself from the room, adults are present.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | June 11, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Frank Lautenberg just won the Democratic Primary in New Jersey. He is 91 years old and old enough to be McCain’s father. Apparently, the Obama supporters want to have it both ways. I noticed they didn’t turn down his support based on claims he is senile or confused. Actually, McCains’ mother sounds more with it than Obama at times,
and she is 96.
Posted by: dds | June 11, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
DaShawn – We need a fresh Hip-Hop additude. Obama will bring cool to the white house.
Please tell me how this would provide jobs and put food on your table. The music was great but they all starved to death anyway!
Posted by: Bob | June 11, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Why has it taken decades for McCain to become the Republican Nominee? Since McCain’s experience is an important factor, he should have been the nominee 8 years ago. I just don’t understand why it has taken the Republican Party this long to recognize this Senator as a leader in their party.
Posted by: FYI | June 11, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Dirt will fly, no matter how much McCain and Obama try to control it. People are claiming Obama is the anti christ. Let the dirt fly. Informed voters will seek out the truth. Obama/Jim Webb 2008.
Posted by: mitchman | June 11, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Yes James, remember Katrina? It sure wasn’t BO down there helping raise money!! I believe it was a Clinton!
Posted by: rockthebleachers | Jun 11, 2008 1:55:51 PM
That would be BILL Clinton, along with George HW Bush.
Posted by: KS KATTY | June 11, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“Worse, there is no country or empire in the history who has kept his military powerful while his economy was declining. This is the first war that is entirely financed by debt. So much for fiscal responsibility” That says it all right there. Why does America think they are the exception to the rule? This country is only 222 years young and has caused more terror to other nations in this short period of time and this country does NOT look good in the eyes of the world right now. McCain is a war monger, period. He wants more death and destruction and the majority of the american people want a new direction. How can he honestly say the word “change”? Are you kidding me? If the american democrats elect this man simply because HRC didn’t win, then they deserve EVERYTHING that comes their way in the next 4 or 8 years.
Posted by: Albert | June 11, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Half the reason we don’t talk like that is the reason he is…..We know that the 1st time Obama is viewed as a “black” President instead of a President that happens to be black. He has lost.
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Obama is just as out of touch as John McCain. Obama is just a better speaker. If you lower the tax RATE, of course wealthier people are going to retain more money than people who make less. Obama wants to pump 50 billion dollars into the economy, but doesn’t lay out any changes of why it’s going to help this time around. We’re already in HUGE debt, so we’re going to borrow more money without making any changes to policy to prevent it from being spent wrecklessly. We missed our chance for real positive change this election when Ron Paul lost the republican nomination.
Posted by: Jason Shackelford | June 11, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
>>FYI | Jun 11, 2008 2:19:11 PM”
McCain didn’t run eight years ago because of party loyalty…
Posted by: questioner | June 11, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Everybody must calm down and be rational. We should not insult or degrade one another, but consider the facts.
Why does Sen. Obama have these associations?:
Tony Rhezko,
William Ayers,
Rev. Wright,
Rev. Pfleger,
Jim Johnson,
Emil Jones,
Rashid Khalidi
It is important to research both candidates in depth before anyone makes up their mind in the polling booth.
Posted by: D.R. | June 11, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I don’t think ‘confused’ necesarily invokes McCain’s age. For someone runnig as a national security candidate, he genuinely does seem to have little grasp of some of the issues. I think that is far game for Obama.
One of the reasons I backed Obama in the primaries is that his views on Iraq, that it was a mistake from the start and that he got up and said so in 2002 when Democrats in Congress were busy voting for it, is a far more coheent position to attack McCain from. Its not just that the war was misshandled, it was a mistake from the start.
Posted by: markymark | June 11, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Again, more proof that Obama and his party aren’t interested in debating the “issues”.
They, as usual, are busy smearing and distorting non-issues, for political gain of course.
Obama has his own CONFUSION:
……57 US States
……Can’t remember for 20 years hearing anything racist coming from his pal and mentor, Rev. Wright
…… Doesn’t know if illegal should have drivers licenses or not.
Obama is clearly not qualified to be president but the “corrupt institution” that has put him where he is, our mostly corrupt liberal wolfpack press is doing all they can to help.
Afterall look how successful they were at killing Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
SAD……………and TRUE
We all know it so let’s stop “pretending”.
Posted by: Allen Ridge | June 11, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Obama should turn down Byrds endorsement .. talk about senile and old!
Posted by: MJ | June 11, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Talk about putting your most valuable where your mouth is! Apparently this was not “newsworthy”enough for the media to comment about. Can either of the other presidential candidates truthfully come close to this? … Just a question for each of us to seek an
answer, and not a statement.
You see…character is what’s shown when the public is not looking. There were no cameras or press invited to what you are about to read about, and the story comes from one person in New
Hampshire. One evening last July, Senator John McCain of Arizona arrived at the New Hampshire home of Erin Flanagan for sandwiches, chocolate-chip cookies and a heartfelt talk about Iraq. They had met at a presidential debate, when she asked the candidates what they would do to bring home American soldiers – - soldiers like her brother, who had been killed in action a few months earlier.
Mr. McCain did not bring cameras or press. Instead, he brought his youngest son, James McCain, 19, then a private first class in the Marine Corps about to leave for Iraq. Father and son
sat down to hear more about Ms. Flanagan’s brother, Michael Cleary, a 24-year-old Army
First Lieutenant killed by an ambush … a roadside bomb.
No one mentioned the obvious: In just days, Jimmy McCain could face similar perils. ‘I can’t imagine what it must have been like for them as they were coming to meet with a family that
…..’ Ms. Flanagan recalled, choking up. ‘We lost a dear one,’ she finished.
Mr. McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee, has staked his candidacy on the promise that American troops can bring stability to Iraq. What he almost never says is that one of them is his own son, who spent seven months patrolling Anbar Province and learned of his
father’s New Hampshire victory in January while he was digging a stuck military vehicle out of the mud.
Two of Jimmy’s three older brothers went into the military. Doug McCain, 48, was a Navy pilot. Jack McCain, 21, is to graduate from the Naval Academy next year, raising the chances that his father, if elected, could become the first president since Dwight D. Eisenhower with a son at war.
I chose to share this with those who I believe will pass it on, to others who will pass it on. We hear so much inflated trash out there. How about a simple act of kindness … and dedication to others placed above oneself?
Posted by: dixiecharms | June 11, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
questioner, actually he didn’t run because the same smear machine that made Bush(A draft dodger)into a “true” American while making Kerry(a decorated veteran) look like a draft dodger. Smeared him also in 2000.
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Trying to block my comments as supposed spam is violating my right to free speech.
All I was saying is that the argument that experience matters significantly is flawed. Some of our best leaders had very little experience beforehand and some of our worst had all the experience in the world and vice versa.
The amount of experience doesn’t matter nearly as much as what you do with that experience does.
Posted by: Topher | June 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
McCain says something…Obama says something – mud-slings, character is assailed. Obama’s people are definitely playing the age card in this one. I wonder how it would be for McCain if he played the race card? Doesn’t seem equitable, does it?
Posted by: Lisa Again | June 11, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
A question to those who say Liberals only spend. Should we spend trillions of dollars on a war where the citizens don’t want us?? Or should we spend it at home so our dollar is stronger, our bridges don’t collapse, and our towns don’t flood then get forgotten???
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Mccain loves to say that we have troops in South Korea, Japan, Germany, Afganistan and Iraq. As if they are all on the battle front. Hey McCain, those first 3 countries are peaceful, you idiot!!! There are no American soldiers being killed in those first 3 countries! There is a HUGE difference between our presence in Germany and our presence in Iraq, but McCain sees absolutely no difference. What an idiot!
Posted by: Tom | June 11, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Yesterday I attended a hospital foundation event to honor a woman who has given generously of her time and money to the hospital.
She addressed the group extemporaneously, cogently and without notes, and mentioned two dozen people in the audience by name and with great charm and humor.
She is 94 years old.
In today’s culture, 70 is the new 55.
Many people continue their careers and/or continue to lead productive, intellectually stimulating lives into their late 70’s or early 80’s.
A family friend of ours is still an expert skier at age 75–dispite a second,artificial hip (he blew out the first one when he skied off of a cliff in a white out 6 years ago).
We can all name people we know who confirm the reality that 70 is really not that old.
Referring to McCain as “confused” (code for senile) is just dumb, and contrary to common knowledge and experience. It is also cynical politics as usual.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | June 11, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY,
IF YOULIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR,
IF LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES,
IF LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH,
IF YOU CAN’T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN,
IF YOU LIKE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT,
IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE.
IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT SEND JOBS AND TECHNOLOGY OVERSEAS,
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT PRACTICES TORTURE,
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT SPIES ON ITS OWN CITIZEN,
IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU’LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
It gives me great comfort to realize that there are millions of voters over 40 that have no access or interest in these blogs and who WILL determine the outcome of this election if it is youth vs. “of a certain age”…thank God. IF NOT HILLARY THEN GO McCAIN!!!!!
And Obama should not be given a pass in this Politically Correct country just because he IS black. If he were white….just like Ferraro said, he would never have got this far. Billionaire liberal dems will not be able to buy this for him. “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction” Barack Hussein Obama.
Thank God McCain doesn’t want to hold hands with our enemies and has an allegiance to THIS country and not Africa, Indonesia, or Afghanistan, or any other country Obama favors over the U.S of K.K.K.
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Lisa Again, I wonder if people like you that think this is low, etc. felt the same way when Obama was assailed for telling the truth about small-town America??
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Does Obama want to be questioned about his loss of brain cells when he admits to cocaine and marijuana abuse?
Then Obama lied about drug usage on his moral character form for being a lawyer.
Why lie?
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
McCain not only shows a rather loose grip on facts but he confuses his stubbornness with principle.
Posted by: Eddie | June 11, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Good point OnTheGloryRoad how can you get full military disability pension and be Commander-in-Chief at the same time.
I have nothing against McCain except that he is too much like Bush on giving tax break to the rich, nothing on healthcare, continuing the war, out of touch of the people, …
Posted by: goDem | June 11, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Debra did you just equate the U.S. with the KKK? Man I think SNL was right about hillary supporters.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Now that we have drawn the plans to attack IRAN, we need a leader who will come and execute the plan. GUESS WHO??????
Posted by: arnal | June 11, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Obama and his punks are desperate to look like they have something of value to say about national security, but it’s obvious they don’t.
I trust McCain completely on matters of national security. Obama is a joke.
Posted by: bob | June 11, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
dixiecharms – a simple act of kindness is one thing and throwing common sense out the window is another. When you child is killed in war (whether it be Viet Nam or Iraq) as the result of a lack of common sense by people who are to lead this nation, no amount of pandering returns the dead. John McCain cannot disassociate himself from the invasion of a soverign nation and I don’t care if he had 100 sons there and I grieve for every one lost and injured, but waving the American flag in this political contest using your story of a VERY personal experience means nothing to the families of the dead and the families of those still serving. And it certainly means nothing to me who heard Senator McCain say social issues don’t mean a thing to me – what does? War? Enough said.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | June 11, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
It looks like the past three presidents have all admitted smoking or playing with IT. It must be a requirement to run for office these days
Posted by: arnal | June 11, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Economy doesn’t seem to be Obama’s strong point.. listening to his speech and McCains, I was surprised to hear that McCain’s economic plan, if priced out, will balance the budget by his first term. Obama’s plan will result in enormous spending and taxes..the complete opposite of what this country needs.
Then I read that if you make under $250,00 there is essentially little difference in the final tax bill under eithers plan!
Whats really clear though is that the small business owner wil lbear the brunt of Obama’s plan! Increased payroll taxes hits us twice as hard as an individual. Increase SS taxes limits? Cap gains increases.. put your money, whats left, someplace else!
Posted by: james in jersey | June 11, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY,
IF YOULIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR,
IF LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES,
IF LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH,
IF YOU CAN’T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN,
IF YOU LIKE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT,
IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE.
IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT SEND JOBS AND TECHNOLOGY OVERSEAS,
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT PRACTICES TORTURE,
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT SPIES ON ITS OWN CITIZEN,
IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU’LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.
______________________
GET A LIFE!
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Reminds me of Obama calling Iran a “tiny” problem and then changing his mind three days later to mean “grave”.
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Well Obama is not that young. Older people most of the time do not like changes. they don’t like to go out of there confortable zone.they prefer to let other do that.
Posted by: goDem | June 11, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
SOODD: Same old Obama, different day!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | June 11, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
SENATOR McCAIN SAID TODAY: “I AM GOING TO CAMPAIGN IN ALL THIRTEEN COLONIES. MY CAMPAIGN WILL EMPLOY ALL THE LATEST TECHNOLOGIES: THE TELEGRAPH, THE CARRIER PIGEON AS WELL AS THE PONY EXPRESS.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Lol. uhhh, here we go with the cowards that are to scared to post their own comments. And he said “tiny” compared to the USSR’s threat. But why would you care about getting facts straight??
Posted by: The Oracle in MD | June 11, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
His mind going (“Shitte? Sunni?”), body damaged,in dubious health, terrible temper, in bed with lobbyists and never the brightest bulb in the box, many here profess to think McCain can win the election and be a good president. No wonder China is the rising power.
Posted by: Howard | June 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Now that’s more change we can believe in. From his advisors calling Senator Clinton a Monster to this ugly rhetoric about age the new tone he preaches about just seems to be another weak talking point. He promised a debate about the issues, but than he also said he would use public financing.
Posted by: Jim | June 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Obama without a teleprompter and someone else’s words is just an emply vessel, and he has the audicity to critize McCain. Obama is desperate, because more and more folks are starting to see him for what he really is. Ask him a question without a teleprompter and someone to give him the answers…..he just stands there dumb founded, like a deer in the headlights. I we want him as president? I would rather vote for my postman than him on any day of the week.
Posted by: SayWhat | June 11, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
‘ I wonder, if Clinton’s last name was Smith would she even be the senator from NY?? I sincerely doubt it…’
YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, ORACLE;
HILLARY WOULD HAVE BEEN ‘GOVERNOR’.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!
Posted by: questioner | June 11, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
This phony hypocrite can never be trusted. He first used all dirty means to frame the dems candidates to be racist so that he can take advantage of affirmative action just as the way he got into Harvard. He trashed Joe Biden for praising him, framed Bill Clinton, the first “black” president, being racist. He deceived half dems on an empty gamble of “Revolution We Can Believe In”, that’s Chairman Mao’s quote.
Now, he is using the dirty trick to deceive the general public. McCain’s age is better than his Affirmative Action.
This traditional dem voter will not cast vote for the phony Bho in Nov.
Posted by: fat cat | June 11, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Funny how ABC is ageist, not the Obama people. McCain is confused because he doen’t understand basic facts like the difference between Sunni and Shia, that Iran is aligned with the Shia popolation in Iraq, Al-Maliki has met several times with Iran’s President, and this occupation has made Iran, a former sworn enemy of Iraq, stronger by turning Iraq into an ALLY of Iran. He’s not confused because he’s old and nobody from the Obama campaign has said anything of the sort. So, it’s clear that ABC news is projecting its age-baiting agenda on Obama’s people.
Posted by: AppeaseThis | June 11, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Obama for president.
Sinclair for vice-president.
A marriage made in heaven!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | June 11, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Yes Say what..
People just are seeing it a little too late. Hard to believe that such an empty suit has come this far.
All because of Dean…who started his progressive liberal presidential search not long after his own humiliation when he himself was vying for the Dem nomination.
Just say No obama!
Posted by: zimeeisme | June 11, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Obama is a slug. He leaves a trail of slime that he leaves where ever he goes. Just look! Yup — that’s definitely slime.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | June 11, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Jim Johnson just stepped down from Obama’s vetting team….seems Obama didn’t “vet” yet again, someone he chose. Like Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, etc. Does he ever have good judgement?
I can’t take this newbie and his probable mistakes with our country. NEVER OBAMA!!! GO McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Are you kidding me? My 10 year old told his coach he was “confused” when he made a mistake on a forced play in baseball – my other child had to re-do some homework because he was “confused” – when did this word become only for the senior crowd?. Get Real! No one needs to play any “age card” this election. – We can see for ourselves the age and concerns related to that with the Republican candidate.
Posted by: Paige | June 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS – TAKE NOTICE
———–ROE v. WADE———–
Two of the current justices of the United States Supreme Court will probably retire within the next four years. One is 75 and the other is 84. This will give the new president the ability to nominate two new justices. If McCain is elected you can be sure the new justices will be just like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas: willing to overturn ROE v. WADE. So think when you vote!!!
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Kerry,
I Live in Illinois and read the chgo trib and sub-times. I don’t where you get your refs. from but non of those papers have written any of those stories you state they wrote.
Posted by: Illinois | June 11, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Confused
Adjective
1. Perplexed by many conflicting situations or statements; filled with bewilderment; “obviously bemused by his questions”; “bewildered and confused”; “a cloudy and confounded philosopher”; “just a mixed-up kid”; “she felt lost on the first day of school”.
2. Lacking orderly continuity; “a confused set of instructions”; “a confused dream about the end of the world”; “disconnected fragments of a story”; “scattered thoughts”.
3. Having lost your bearings; confused as to time or place or personal identity; “I frequently find myself disoriented when I come up out of the subway”; “the anesthetic left her completely disoriented”.
4. Thrown into a state of disarray or confusion; “troops fleeing in broken ranks”; “a confused mass of papers on the desk”; “the small disordered room”; “with everything so upset”.
5. Mentally confused; unable to think with clarity or act intelligently; “the flood of questions left her bewildered and confused”.
NOW THAT WAS FROM WEBSTER’S DICTIONARY AND NO WHERE DOES IT MENTIONS AGE ?????
Posted by: lyatesnj53 | June 11, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Debra:
The next thing out of Obama’s mouth will probably be: “That’s not the Jim Johnson I knew”.
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Katie…how long was McCain a POW?
Do you know anything about McCain’s sons?
I cannot believe that you would say he is not a hero.
Well, we know who your hero is…the empty suit!
Posted by: indie voter | June 11, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY,
IF YOULIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR,
IF LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES,
IF LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH,
IF YOU CAN’T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN,
IF YOU LIKE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT,
IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE.
IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT SEND JOBS AND TECHNOLOGY OVERSEAS,
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT PRACTICES TORTURE,
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT SPIES ON ITS OWN CITIZEN,
IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU’LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Obama has passed his Zenith the press and media can only protect this guy to a point. The more we know him the more his support will disappear. There is nothing there but an empty speech. His campaign is starting to spiral down, facts will now crash and burn his campaign.
Posted by: Jim | June 11, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
McCain’s son just came back from Iraq. McCain’s 19 year old son just came back from Iraq. How dare Obama who himself never served. McCain is always eating lunch with his other son at the navy academy.
McCain is always visiting Walter Reed.
McCain never talks about how he has two sons in the military.
He watched his wife attach a cell phone to her wrist as she waited to her wrist when her son was deployed.
Time for the media to start talking how McCain’s son 19 year old son just came back from a tour in Iraq.
Posted by: david | June 11, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
RE: “Stick to the facts concerning Sen. Obama: He intends to sit down with notorious world leaders without preconditions”
Nixon going to China to praise, toast and extol Mao Tse Tung, the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century, at a time when China was supporting, supplying and aiding North Vietnam in the Vietnam War, is now widely regarded as the best single act of his presidency.
Whatever “preconditions” preceded Nixon’s visit to Beijing, they did not include easing up on support for North Vietnam.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Would everyone who believes Obama is adhering to his pledge of ‘no politics as usual’ please signify by saying ‘I DO’.
Damn — silence is deafening. Isn’t it?
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Why is Obama so afraid of town hall meetings? Posted by: Just Curious | Jun 11, 2008 12:30:04 PM
Because Senator Obama is not able to answer questions on the spot, only with a teleprompter or cue cards. Other than that he does his uh, well, let me make this clear I uh… but never completes a thought.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | June 11, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I’D VOTE FOR McCAIN’S 96 YEAR OLD MOTHER BEFORE I VOTE FOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Note to obama – keep on playing all the race cards, the age cards and the sexist cards – you just continue to reinforce what the majority of Americans are starting to see about you. You are not fit to be a president of the USA – you are the confused one – And since when has 70 become “old”? If a person is lucky enough to reach 90, maybe that is old.
You are really a bottom of the pond sucking creature and I hope you never are elected.
Posted by: CalifLady36 | June 11, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
erb
Id you’re comparing Obama with Nixon, give it up. Nixon was twice the president Obama could ever be.
Posted by: A | June 11, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Lol. Yea A, and the only President to resign the Presidency. If this is your idea of a good President. I’ll take Obama please.
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
What Kerry and Rice said about the confusion of McCain is clearly an early symbol of dimentia. This happened to many older adults, specially 70 and above. He may not even remember his vice president or wife’s name if he is elected.
Posted by: mampang | June 11, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
RE: “How dare Obama who himself never served”
Didn’t McCain’s top foreign policy guide, Senator Joe Lieberman, point this out the other day ?
If there’s one thing Joe Lieberman can’t stand, it’s a politician who never served his country in uniform.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
When was the last time anyone heard Obama talking about an issue?
Posted by: Just Curious | June 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Thank you Trish…
Honor and Respect is clearly what McCain is all about.
For those who want to call McCain a warmonger and the one who wants a 100 year war…you obviously do not know the whole story.
Obama is the ultimate spinmeister
Posted by: texas ranger | June 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
This is the most serious job on the planet. Don’t elect a man with a questionable mental capacity to this serious business. What if he bombs the wrong country? He already suggested kicking Russia out of the G8.
Posted by: tony | June 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
No HRC supporters can answer that huh?? Lol. Thought so….
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
RE: “McCain never talks about how he has two sons in the military.”
I wasn’t even aware of it until now, but it’s true.
Barack Obama’s likely running mate, Jim Webb, also has a son in Iraq.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I believe that there are a lot of people responsible for these things.
As for me..I know that
McCain will balance the budget during his first term. Does Obama say that?
McCain will continue the tax breaks…that works for me and will help small and big business. Remember he was against it. But now that the economy is so bad, the last thing we need are more taxes! Just look at history.
High gas prices? They will continue no matter what for years…guess that’s McCains fault huh?
McCains own sons are in the military and served or are serving in Iraq…guess McCain is trying to get them killed huh?
I admire McCain for standing up against abortion. Plus last I heard, the Dems control Congress…so quit your scare tactics
I have no problem if the government needs to spy…no attacks since 9/11…works for me!
McCain 08…someone we can TRUST
Posted by: texas ranger | June 11, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Regarding Mr. Obama being in the Armed Forces:
He didn’t get a buyout the way that GwB and Dickie Cheney did. Don’t even go there.
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
erb…thats why they will pick him as the VP…have to give Obama some credibility. But people don’t vote because of who the VP is.
Get this…Webb just released a book last week. Hmmm..wonder if Obama used the same publisher.
It is all about the media isn’t it?
Posted by: james in jersey | June 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Texas Ranger how can he do that while we are in Iraq as he cuts taxes and then wants to build a base tere? Is he going to take tax money away from schools healthcare or social securty? He is pandering.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Texas ranger. I don’t care what he “says” about balancing the budget. Use your head, hows he spose to do that while spending trillions of dollars in Iraq?? Oh….by having a gas tax holiday right?? Lol. You make this to easy…
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
After a job interview Obama wrote:
“There was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself. And white.”
Why did Obama write “And white” ?
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
What really worries me about McCain is that he has said very clearly that he will “veto any beer”. Now, I know he wants to start WWIII, and wants to make oilman richer, and wants you to take out private health insurance on your own with a tiny ridiculous tax credit, and he wants to send everyone’s children to war, and doesn’t care about people losing their homes. But when he said he will veto any beer, that got furious, hot, and angry. No way buddy, leave me and my beer alone. So too bad it isn’t the beer your wife is making a ton of money on, not my problem. Just leave my beer alone. NO VETO ON BEER.
Posted by: Jake | June 11, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
“Although McCain chooses not to make it a “talking point,” James (“Jimmy”) served in Iraq until February 2008″ [Wikipedia]
Fortunately he isn’t there now, for the same reason Prince Harry wasn’t there very long. He and his unit would be targeted.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
If you think the gov. has a right to spy on you you are nopt a patriot sir!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
So obama didn’t get a buy out like cheny, etc…
I believe that Bush and cheney are a few years older than your precious golden god, but if I remember correctly, there was no draft when obama was of age and so there would have been no need to buy himself out of the service -
obama = race baiter
obama = age discrimation baiter
obama = SEXIST
obama = president of kenya
obama = NEVER PRESIDENT OF THE USA.
WHO WANTS AN ANTI-AMERICAN, JEW HATER, RACE BAITER, AGE BAITER SEXIST FOR A PRESIDENT? ONLY THOSE THAT WANT TO SEE THE USA SOLD OUT TO THE MUSLIMS.
Posted by: CalifLady36 | June 11, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
I have no problem if the government needs to spy…no attacks since 9/11…works for me!
Coward!!!!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Why did Obama vote against funding our troops during war?
Joe Biden described Obama’s vote as “political theater”.
Was Biden or Obama right?
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Obama has served this country…isn’t Black Liberation an army?
Yeah….he’s such a uniter…just look at the hate whitey, all black church he’s attended for 20 years.
His wife does look very militant though.
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Well Nat…it seems a lot of people “believe” everything that Obama says.
I have looked at his tax plan…My family makes under 100K and our taxes will nearly double…no kidding.
We have some investments and own a small business. Many people do not do their fact checking.
Posted by: texas ranger | June 11, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Califlady36, when was Obama the president of Kenya? Please give references.
Lots of Muslims live in America. Freedom of religion, remember?
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Obamazombies believe the media spin.
Obama let’s other people do his dirty work..namely lawyers that go back to dirty Chicago
Look up the stories…see what Michelle said about how Blacks would get on the Obama bus…there are the vids out there. Right after that…BAM…race was an issue…
Posted by: Marie | June 11, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
james in NJ..
But didn’t Webb have some kind words for the Confederacy in that newly release book? Don’t think he’ll be VP.
As for McCain confused….first attack Clinton on her womanhood, now attack McCain on his age. Since when are these two types of prejudices acceptable by an attack on race or ethnicity is not?
How about Obama’s “I’ve been to 57 states and one to go” for confused…or for substance induced brain warp.
Posted by: rw in ct | June 11, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
CalifLady36, honestly I don’t care if you vote for Obama or not. He’s a millionaire, I have no problem filling my tank up. What about you?? Elect McCain if you want, but when your daughters have less rights then you do. Know who to blame. Didn’t McCain vote against a bill that would have let women sue for equality in the workplace?? Do your homework.
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
califlady36……great post. Seems Obama is always playing a card but if anyone else does it then they are
racist. I can only hope that McCain cleans his clock good in Nov.
McCain 08
Posted by: Barb | June 11, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Why did Obama vote against funding our troops during war?
Joe Biden described Obama’s vote as “political theater”.
Was Biden or Obama right?
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Sorry Nagel…
you are mistaken…Israel will be bombing Iran, not McCain.
I for one do not want Obama to be in the middle of the whole middle east conflict…scary…
Posted by: Marie | June 11, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I think it’s outrageous for McCain’s team to assume that confused somehow means “old”. It’s offensive to our seniors to imply that only old people could possibly be confused. I know lots of people who are in their 20s and 30s who are confused about policy issues and as a result, I wouldn’t want them in public office! And frankly, there are lots of people in their 70s and 80s serving right now with a clear mind about the issues. Unfortunately, it appears that John McCain is not one of them given this dramatic string of “gaffes” he’s been making lately. I wouldn’t vote for him if he was 42 or 72 or 102.
Posted by: Vito | June 11, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
texas ranger. Lol. Okay, well you just keep thinking our economy’s gonna get better while we’re in Iraq…
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Last I looked, many of our politicians are millionaires..
Posted by: james in jersey | June 11, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
D.R.,
Why does McCain have these associations?
Charles Keating (McCain took campaign contributions from this guy who cheated taxpayers out of billions)
Rick Davis (his firm lobbied for client with ties to Iran)
John Hagee (McCain accepted his endorsement before rejecting it for political reasons)
Ron Parsley (calling Islam a false religion)
Bush (illegally waging war in Iraq)
He also has loaded his campaign with lobbyists more so than any other candidate.
Explain that.
Posted by: Topher | June 11, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
It’s nice to know that McCain is bringing back the draft.
I’ll be glad to see more young kids go to war for oil profits to go to Halliburton.
Go draft! Go McCain!
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
McCain 08…someone we can TRUST
Posted by: texas ranger | Jun 11, 2008 3:06:02 PM
_______________
Yes, McCain can be trusted to:
Continue the Bush policies that got us into Iraq;
Continue to endorse the BUSH policy condoning torture;
Continue the BUSH policy of spying on US citizens;
Continue the BUSH trade policies that have taken jobs and technology overseas;
Continue the BUSH oil policy that has caused gas prices to soar;
Continue the Bush disastrous economic policies that have led to high unemployment.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
What wrong with suggesting McCain may be showing signs of senility? If true the Amercian people need to know this. We cannot afford to have a President who does not possess full control of his mental faculties.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
So…
We elect McCain…he dies from his age in-term and we get stuck with his vice.
We elect Obama……he gets assasinated on a friendly visit to the south and we get stuck with his vice.
We put Hillary back in the race and elect her….we get four years of entertainment watching her get angry everytime she’s critisized.
Or we could just force them all into the same big white house and make them agree on every last issue before they come out.
move to canada 08
Posted by: Rae | June 11, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
GET A LIFE!
Posted by: rhbate | Jun 11, 2008 2:39:20 PM
This is LIFE, not a docu-drama, made for TV movie. Americans are suffering and we are worried. THIS is our LIFE!
I don’t want my sons killed in Iraq for lies. I don’t want universal health insurance, either. I don’t want my children and grandchildren to have to pay back China for this war, I prefer to pay it back now. I don’t want to pay $5.00/gallon for gas so that the rich can get richer (even, if we get off of oil, the same corporations are going to control whatever new technology and screw the American people). Both parties are trying to control every minute of my daily life, who to have sex with, who to marry, trans-fat, cigarettes(the left). Creationism, prayer in school (the right). Government spending in the last 8 years has increased greatly,not just the war for so-called security (fight over there so we won’t have to fight them here BS, beside we’re not paying for it, we’re borrowing money from China), and it was under a Republican President and a Republican Congress. I’m paying taxes so that government can control my LIFE.
Posted by: Rita | June 11, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
It’s nice to know that McCain supports and will be bringing back the draft.
I’ll be glad to see more young kids go to war for oil profits to go to Halliburton.
Go draft! Go McCain!
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Obama must be really lost to have Kerry as an advisor on foreign military matters. He has been anti-American military for the past 30 years. He should start by returning those fake medals he accepted in Vietnam. Then he should apologize for the lies he told before Congress. Obama…please find some clean cut American loving advisors.
Posted by: roger king | June 11, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
‘Last I looked, many of our politicians are millionaires..
Posted by: james in jersey | Jun 11, 2008 3:18:25 PM’
————–
They’re the only ones who can afford to run!!!
Posted by: eyes wide open | June 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
“Why did Obama vote against funding our troops during war?”
He didn’t.
That funding was to keep the troops in harm’s way for as long as possible. Obama, like most Americans, is against that. He wants them home. A majority of Americans want the troops home within a year.
This war is not the troops’ idea. It’s the idea of a bunch of career politicians, most of whom never served in uniform.
Now they are in effect hiding behind the families of these troops to keep their beloved war funded for as long as possible.
Posted by: erb | June 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
There is absolutely nothing wrong with not serving in the military. Just look what it’s done to thousands of young soldiers.
One cannot usually come out of war in a psychological state to think about something like leading a country. Just look at all these young soldiers committing suicide and falling into drug addiction, ect.
“My friends”, John McCain is nothing more than a baby killer volunteer! He knew as well as anyone when he started his flight training that he’d be killing innocent women and children. And you can just listen to one of his speeches to see that this man is also damaged beyond having any capabilities at all to lead this country.
Posted by: Jimi | June 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Debra, oh yea. As for the OJ comment. That was the chickens coming home to roost. I’ve had more than a couple uncles and family members that have been lynched. I don’t remember white people en masse crying for Emmitt Till. Lets not make this racial. Lol.
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
how is it possible to cut taxes while fighting two wars and not cut spending? simple they will borrow money thus inflicting the highest tax the GOP never talks about “inflation”.
Clinton a balanced budget strong economy
Bush-tax break for richest/ terrible economy
And McCain would have us to believe that doing exactly what Bush has done is the best thing for the country. please use your head people don’t be easily misled
Posted by: tired of politics | June 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Neither Sharpton nor Jackson campaigned as if they were the black messiah.
Posted by: rw in ct | June 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
James…why don’t you quote a source that the McCain is bringing back the draft. I see you make this same claim all the time…is this your claim to fame??
Posted by: roger king | June 11, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
James no one is listening to the Obama fear mongering of Roe v. Wade or reinstataing the draft….never going to turn back the hands of time to l974…so leave it alone already…it’s so old for alot of us HILLARY NOW McCAIN SUPPORTERS.
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
TO: Nigel
You should administer yourself Niacin since it is best for increasing HDL. You maybe experiencing one of the many side effects of HMG-CoA Reductase Inhibitors (or as you may identify them as the ‘Statin’ family of Lipid Lowering Agents).
In any event, could you explain Sen. Obama’s 20 year relationship with his dear friends, Rev. Wright and Rev. Pfleger (yes that is correct 2 DECADES)?
Is this the greatest Judgment Lapse in history or Selective Memory Loss?
Posted by: D.R. | June 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
rw in ct, neither has Obama. Lol. you seem to be pushing the black messiah claim. I’ve never heard an Obama supporter say that. Sorry.
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
ROGER, use your google powers:
->Speaking in Pensacola, John McCain spoke out about the need for ROTC programs on college campuses, the need to expand the military, and the need to have more Americans to enlist in the military. He actually mentioned the “draft” word. Although doing so with a smile, the idea that he would even mention that word is of great concern. There is little doubt that if he were elected the issue of draft would not be far behind. Perhaps the number of individuals enlisting has more to do with their opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Certainly polls show the magnitude of this nation’s poor opinion of the Iraq war.
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
GET A LIFE!
Posted by: rhbate | Jun 11, 2008 2:39:20 PM
This is LIFE, not a docu-drama, made for TV movie. Americans are suffering and we are worried. THIS is our LIFE!
I don’t want my sons killed in Iraq for lies. I don’t want universal health insurance, either. I don’t want my children and grandchildren to have to pay back China for this war, I prefer to pay it back now. I don’t want to pay $5.00/gallon for gas so that the rich can get richer (even, if we get off of oil, the same corporations are going to control whatever new technology and screw the American people). Both parties are trying to control every minute of my daily life, who to have sex with, who to marry, trans-fat, cigarettes(the left). Creationism, prayer in school (the right). Government spending in the last 8 years has increased greatly,not just the war for so-called security (fight over there so we won’t have to fight them here BS, beside we’re not paying for it, we’re borrowing money from China), and it was under a Republican President and a Republican Congress. I’m paying taxes so that government can control my LIFE.
Posted by: Rita | Jun 11, 2008 3:20:33 PM
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Well said, I agree with you completely.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I think McCain should take a full psyche evaluation to confirm to the American voters that he is capable of handling the pressures of being POTUS.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
ROGER, use your google powers:
->Speaking in Pensacola, John McCain spoke out about the need for ROTC programs on college campuses, the need to expand the military, and the need to have more Americans to enlist in the military. He actually mentioned the “draft” word. Although doing so with a smile, the idea that he would even mention that word is of great concern. There is little doubt that if he were elected the issue of draft would not be far behind. Perhaps the number of individuals enlisting has more to do with their opposition to the occupation of Iraq. Certainly polls show the magnitude of this nation’s poor opinion of the Iraq war.<-
Posted by: James | June 11, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Nat…so glad you brought up Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Have you noticed they’ve gone “underground” lately? Axlerod gave them the same memo he gave Farrakhan and Wright….”lay low until we clinch this thing”. Ya don’t think alot of white America doesn’t like angry, yelling black men with that Rev. Wright style? They don’t. Obama slips into it too sometimes…he better be careful…keep his image of “cool”.
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
D.R., I got a better question. Can you tell me why you jump on Wright but not the right wing preachers who’ve said the same things??
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
I am not sure I trust McCain at the “red button”. He once called his wife a trollop and the “c” word when he got angry at her about some irritating comment she made to him. It makes you wonder what he will do when he gets angry at the leaders of Iran, North Korea, China or Russia.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Can’t wait til the first debate. Obama is already dodging McCain as he knows what a sh—y debator he is. He is great with a script/prompter…McCain is better off the cuff. Hillary was a better communicator than both of them.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!!!
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Obama is politics as usual only more so!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | June 11, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
And Obama throws another under the bus.
He’s really good at that, isn’t he?
Posted by: S | June 11, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Joe, thats what I was saying. Lol. They talk about sexism then in the same breath say they’re gonna vote for the most sexist dude in the racr. How’s that for intelligence??
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Sen. McCain said today: “I am going to campaign in all thirteen colonies. My campaign will employ all the latest technology: the telegraph; the carrier pigeon as well as the pony express. John Adams showed me how to use all this new-fangled stuff – we were best buds.”
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“I think McCain should take a full psyche evaluation to confirm to the American voters that he is capable of handling the pressures of being POTUS.”
John McCain has proved to be a tenacious and tireless campaigner—even though for most of the campaign he tooled around the county in a bus and not a 737 like Obama.
If John McCain can handle the rigors of a two year presidential campaign, he has the stamina and mental acuity to handle the job of President.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | June 11, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Nat….McCain has never had a 20 year relationship with a right wing nut job, that’s why media doesn’t question his judgement about such things. Obama has relationships with questionable characters all the time, it seems.
Posted by: Debra | June 11, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Debra,
Ditto on the fear mongering by the Obama followers and Hillary supporter posers…they must not know that we live in a democracy (after all the northern cone junta run by Dean stole the election from Hillary), that we have a democratic Congress the holds hearing on justice appointees, etc, etc.
As for the 4 BLT reverends going underground, yes,their absence, or should I say, silence, is quite noticeable.
I know McCain and I am taking my chances with him, I have no idea who Obama is, and the little the press has been willing to print makes me think of radical shyster politics at its best.
Posted by: rw in ct | June 11, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I really think McCain is showing signs of senility/dementia include becoming forgetfull, confused, irritable, moody and angry. That’s McCain all over.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
McCain as usual is right. It doesn’t matter when we bring the troops home. We still have them in Germany and Japan. The difference between republicans and democrats though is that republicans want to win the war and democrats want to lose it.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
“I think McCain should take a full psyche evaluation to confirm to the American voters that he is capable of handling the pressures of being POTUS.”
John McCain has proved to be a tenacious and tireless campaigner—even though for most of the campaign he tooled around the county in a bus and not a 737 like Obama.
If John McCain can handle the rigors of a two year presidential campaign, he has the stamina and mental acuity to handle the job of President.
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McCain’s campaign was a piece of cake compared to what Obama and Hillary went through. McCain is already showing signs of senility. I suspect by November he will be a basket case.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Debra, I’m not even gonna get on the Wright thing. It’s over. But you’re right. mcCain just votes against anything progressive. Like, women’s rights, MLK holiday, civil rights. Oh yea and his wife was addicted to meds, then good ol McCain just used his clout to sweep it under the rug. Oh yea, did I mention those meds she stole were going to sick kiddies?? Great people to look up to Debra. But why would you be worried about ACTIONS when you’ve supported the Clintons who have more bones in their closet than most cemetaries??? Its just easier to talk about Wright right?? Oh yea, have you served to tours in ANY war?? I thought not. So even if you don’t like Wright, remember he’s EARNED his right to speak. Unlike some of the people on this blog.
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
I think Americans should be concerned with the health of McCain: His medical report consisted to 1186 pages. Reporters were locked room and only allowed three hours to review these reports. Why? Anytime someone’s medical report is so huge it can be measured by the pound, that’s scary. And if he is taking more than sixteen medications a day, that’s even scarier.
Obama’s medical report was ONE page.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
It is now know that JFK not only suffered from constant severe back pain, he had Addison’s disease (and a variety of other serious medical conditions) as well.
And Kennedy took a variety of drugs to treat those conditions, and had regular amphetamine injections as well.
JFK concealed his true medical condition when he ran for president.
In contrast, John McCain’s medical records are an open book, and he is in excellent health.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | June 11, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
McCain as usual is right. It doesn’t matter when we bring the troops home. We still have them in Germany and Japan. Posted by: Pepsiholic
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That is an absurb comparision. You are on the verge of senility if you think Iraq will ever be anything like Japan or Germany.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
obama is a FRAUD!!! Next he will accuse McCain of being a RACIST – just like Hillary!!! If you speak bad of obama – or – his many, many RADICAL questionable assoicates – you must be a racist!!!
Posted by: Molly | June 11, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
TO: Topher &
OnTheGloryRoad
Like most Obama followers you forgot to answer the question or are so mesmerized that you avoid facts.
Why does Sen. Obama have these associations?:
Tony Rhezko – assisted in raising campaign money for Sen. Obama He was convicted on 16 of 24 counts involving mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and aiding and abetting bribery.
William Ayers – a member of the Weather Underground years ago, a radical group that claimed responsibility for bombings, including at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.
Rev. Wright & Rev. Pfleger – Obama named title of his book after one of Wright’s sermons (Audacity of Hope). Has shouted “God damn America” and accused the government of creating AIDS.
Emil Jones – was an important figure in Obama’s victory for U.S. Senate (2004), is known for maneuvering state money to favored institutions, some that employ(ed) his relatives.
Rashid Khalidi – friend of Sen. Obama and met while both were teaching at the University of Chicago and lived in the same neighborhood, has criticized policies of Israel and was constituent of a Palestinian advisory panel to peace talks in the early 1990s.
This is not Guilt by Association, especially since he has known these individuals for years/decades.
This is NOT CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN NOR AFFORD.
Posted by: D.R. | June 11, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Isn’t this just great. The House Democrats just voted down new oil drilling 50-200 miles off our coast. They said we can’t drill our way out of this crisis. What fools. More supply is exactly what it takes to get out of this crisis. By the way, thank you Ex-Pres. Clinton in 1996 when he vetoed the Anwar drilling bill that had been passed by both houses of Congress. Pres Clinton stated we didn’t even know if we would still need the new oil when it came on line 10 years later. Thanks to Clinton and all the GreenHeadHoles. I mean, you can sure see all the massive disasters everyday in the world from drilling for oil…I just wish someone would point out where these disasters are happening to me. I can’t see them. Obama…drill for oil.
Posted by: roger king | June 11, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Nat,
Me thinks you meant to say, “Wright has won his right to HATE”
Posted by: rw in ct | June 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
roger king, we should also thank the repubs who when told in the 80′s we would have to find alternative fuel kept doing what they do best. Pushing it off to the next generation…
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
There is one thing that is crystal clear to me now in all of this.
BARACK OBAMA
WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES!
And he is a man of greatness beyond
anything that McCain could even
dream of.
And debra,
Please watch carefully what is going to happen at these debates and town hall meetings you speak of. There will be no pity shown for this little Johnny character.
The full, unbounded brilliance of Obama will sink this little mole in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Jimi | June 11, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
roger king… I think they should drill but the crisis will continue untill we get something going other than oil…
Bottom line oil will not last forever maybe 50 years left also the real crisis is global warming saying it isn’t happening is just dumb…If the scientist are wrong how come that same science works in everyday life. This isn’t a problem for god to handle we need to do it. But I say drill for oil and tax those profits!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Does any Democratic voter actually think the Demo. candadite has a plan that will work to bring down gas prices. I use my car for work. The Demo Congress keeps saying supply doesn’t matter. Released today. The Energy Department’s Energy Information Administration said oil inventories fell by 4.6 million barrels last week. Analysts surveyed by energy research firm Platts expected a much smaller decline of about 1.4 million barrels; any sign that oil supplies are falling has tended to send oil climbing. The prices shot thru the roof today. Wake up and demand Obama drill for oil.
Posted by: roger king | June 11, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
And yes, thats for rw in ct, and debra.
Posted by: Nat Turner from Harpers Ferry | June 11, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Joe…you might be interested in knowing that the US oil companies paid in taxes last year an amount that equals 50% of those taxes paid by all the US citizens combined. Ok…tax them some more, but you know they can and will pass that tax on to us. Wake up…demand Obama drill for oil now.
Posted by: roger king | June 11, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Wow Nat thats well put too. I read about that experment and it made me very ashamed to be an american. I will say it I’m not scared but bush will probably tap my phone now…Without a warrant but thats ok my coment probably makes me a terrorist
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Joe…you might be interested in knowing that the US oil companies paid in taxes last year an amount that equals 50% of those taxes paid by all the US citizens combined.
Posted by: roger king | Jun 11, 2008 4:07:22 PM
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Right, and the reason they were able to pay the taxes at that rate is because they socked it to the American public on gas prices, and in the process made record billions in revenue. So don’t feel sorry for them.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Actualy Roger I am aware of that. If the oil companies do not want to make investments in alternative fuel tax the hell out of them and use that money to develop it through DARPA…also Give some of it back to consumers to counter act the raise by the oil company. 4.5 billon in one quarter by one company and they only invest 100 millon a year in R and D for alternative fuel thats BS!
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
rhbate,
If you knew your facts, you would know that it isn’t the U.S. oil companies that are “socking it to us”. We have to buy oil from foreign companies. We pay the going price for that oil. Democrats are not letting us drill oil in our own country. You should be ashamed.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
McCain often confuses Sunni and Shia Muslims. That could be a critical fatal mistake if we ever get to regional peace negotiations.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
McCain admits he knows nothing about the economy — now he is demonstrating he knows little about Iraq.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Also I do think if the residents of Alaska or werever want to drill their land for oil they should be allowed to. All Im saying is that this is a VERY UGENT issue.. We need to do something else and we need some forward thinking people on this not oil tycoons
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Democrats are not letting us drill oil in our own country. You should be ashamed. Posted by: Pepsiholic
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We could start drilling tomorow and it would not have any impact for years. Plus the total yield from all untapped US oil fields is not that much and would only add a few years of supply. We cannot drill our way out of this mess.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Hey Joe, why is it the oil companies responsibility to develop alternative energy? That’s like saying that the government should mandate that Wonder Bread must make donuts. What we need to do is build more nuclear plants and go to hydrogen fuel for our cars.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
proof of bush third term…
Asked whether he’d be interested in Cheney had the vice president not already have served under Bush for two terms, McCain said: “I don’t know if I would want him as vice president. He and I have the same strengths. But to serve in other capacities? Hell, yeah.”
This is more neo con BS
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Well oil companies are energy compainies.. In a free market wisdom would dictate if you are selling something your going to run out of then you develop something else to replace it using profits from the previous product…Now what I see happing is the oil companies are running low but making these huge profits so I think our govenment should force them if they are not going to do it themselves.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Who here doesn’t use gas for their car or to heat their home in the winter. When the supply falls and demand continues…as you know it must; then the prices kept going up. This is going to break this country. You think your job won’t be affected…it will affect all of us, including people that don’t have jobs because taxes collected will also go down. Wake up and demand Obama and the Democrats drill for new oil starting tomorrow.
Posted by: roger king | June 11, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
We could start drilling tomorow and it would not have any impact for years.
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Clinton vetoed drilling in ANWAR in 1996. If he hadn’t vetoed it, it would be in production today. There is around 2 trillion barrels of shale oil that democrats have also prevented us from tapping.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Joe, again, why should the energy companies do it? Have you ever heard of the Manhattan project? Nuclear power plants are one of the results of that project.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Roger I agree with you but we need more to that plan than just drill faster deeper… I don’t know what it is someone who gets paid more than me needs to come up with that. But your point should be included in a new energy policy.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
First, it was the Israel confusion and Joe Liberman helping McCain out, then the “Veto every beer” gaffe, Now this. Enough already. This is going to be a long hot summer for sure.
Posted by: Oh Boy! | June 11, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Do you want that nuclear waste in your state? I’m for nuclear if we develope a way top remove the waste. Energy compaines don’t have too but thats the way captalisum is supposed to work.
Posted by: Joe | June 11, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
POW doesn’t teach you about war. It can teach about being a prisoner but that doesn’t give you experience on how to conduct a war.
Posted by: X marks the spot | June 11, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
We could start drilling tomorow and it would not have any impact for years.
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Clinton vetoed drilling in ANWAR in 1996. If he hadn’t vetoed it, it would be in production today. There is around 2 trillion barrels of shale oil that democrats have also prevented us from tapping.
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Still does not change the fact that we cannot drill our way out of this crisis. Futhermore, the oil shale/oil sands estimates are misleading due to the fact that it will take more energy to extract the oil from the shale and sands that we will get back in the oil itself. We must find alternatives to petroleum. That is the only solution that makes sense.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Gotcha…I have grown tired of it from the primary. Now in the GE, I can say it’s tired.
Giving McCain the benefit of the doubt that he actually cares about the troops being away from their families, but that he was making a larger point about being engaged in Iraq, can’t we just say McCain’s ability to misspeak is not a good thing?
By the time low information voters finish watching what will appear to be flip flopped positions online AND choose not to give him the benefit of the doubt about the number of times he misspeaks, McCain will not look his best. I like McCain well enough to want to vote for him in the primary in 2000. I don’t want to think he is ill equipped to handle day to day reality.
If his foreign policy experience was good enough in 2004 for John Kerry to consider him for VP, then he should be sensible enough today. I understand they are trying to take away his strength or create a doubt about his strength, but it rings hollow now.
Posted by: Genna | June 11, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
If McCain is waiting until Iraq becomes like Japan or Germany then he has no intentions of ending this war because that will never happen even in 100 years.
Posted by: armchairgenius | June 11, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Do you want that nuclear waste in your state? I’m for nuclear if we develope a way top remove the waste.:Joe
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Joe, I have nuclear waste in my state and I actually work at one of those nuclear plants. Waste can be stored safely. Have you ever heard of the Oklo natural reactors in Africa? Google it, it’s very interesting. Basically, water seeped down into uranium deposits about 2 trillion years ago causing a nuclear reaction. The plutonium waste from these reactors migrated about 10 feet in the 2 trillion years afterwards. If nature can “design” something that the plutonium didn’t travel more that 10 feet, why can’t we?
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
rhbate,
If you knew your facts, you would know that it isn’t the U.S. oil companies that are “socking it to us”. We have to buy oil from foreign companies. We pay the going price for that oil. Democrats are not letting us drill oil in our own country. You should be ashamed.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | Jun 11, 2008 4:22:27 PM
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Last time I look Exxon, Conoco, Standard Oil, et al. are not “foreign companies.” And these companies are raking in profits that are obscene. Furthermore, drilling for new oil is not the immediate problem. If you had any idea of what is going on, you would know the real problem is refineries: No one wants on in their backyard, NIMBY.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Last time I look Exxon, Conoco, Standard Oil, et al. are not “foreign companies.” And these companies are raking in profits that are obscene. Furthermore, drilling for new oil is not the immediate problem. If you had any idea of what is going on, you would know the real problem is refineries: No one wants on in their backyard, NIMBY.
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What, is 5% profit obscene? If Coke sold as much beverage as oil companies sold gas, their profits would be 6 times higher. They have “obscene” profits because they sell so much product. If you made them sell at zero profit, gas would sell for $3.95 a gallon instead of $4.07. And refineries are not the problem. We still have to pay Canada and other countries $130 a barrel to get our oil.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
In a press release dated April 24, 2006, Pelosi said, “Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.”
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Yeah, it sure looked like democrats lowered our fuel costs didn’t it? How much has gas increased since democrats took over?
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
RACE CARD -
McCain is bringing up the Elitist concept again. Media hasn’t discussed the fact that when Clinton brought that up she was using code for “Uppity Black” – playing to the prejudice and fear again. McCain is trying to resurrect the same attacks.
Posted by: kta | June 11, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I get a laugh at liberals that talk about obscene oil profits… as they sip from their $4 a gallon mineral water. Which has a higher obscene profit? Putting a few pennies worth of water in a plastic bottle and marking it up a thousand times what it costs to produce or a product that has to be sought after, drill many dry wells to find one that actually produces, paying royalties to the owners of the land, transport it, refine it, transport it to the gas stations AND, pay obscene taxes to the government.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
The oil companies have as much to do with raising oil as the speculatorsa who want to make money off of the high demand for a dieing energy source. Our retirement account brokers, bankers along with every middle man from the producer to the oil refineries and shippers and EVERYONE ELSE in the OIL PROFIT FOOD CHAIN all contribute to the game of LETS MAKE $$. The Demand for a fixed resource will always drive up the profit incentive. And let us not forgfet our politicians!!! So what do we do??
Get off the DRUG. Do what needs to be done. If anybody can doe this,WE CAN..
We GO Green or Else! We’ve got twhat it takes EXCEPT THE WILL POWER…
This is not a liberal or a conservative speaking, I am realist. Obama has the
inside on the Green Race…
You make up your mind.. I have already.
Posted by: savoymt | June 11, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
stacy
he is also out of gas
Posted by: rodney | June 11, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Does anyone realise that the current high gas price is as a direct result of the war in Iraq and the attendant chaos in the Middle East?
The Russia, Middle East and Africa have the most oil reserves and are using the oil price to hurt us. WHY? They have developed apathy towards us.
We need a president who will bring back our goodwill in the international community. That president is not the one that want to Bomb Bomb Bmob Iran!
Posted by: Jena | June 11, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
we are told it is a matter of supply and demand—when was the last time you have seen a station out of gas—we had cars in the 50s and 60s getting 40 to 50 miles per gallon—-yet today we consider 30 mpg super —what a crock.
Posted by: rodney | June 11, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Going green is a joke. What do you do when there’s no wind and it’s cloudy out? How do you store the energy for use at night? Even now, environmentalists are demanding damns be taken down so fish can migrate and they complain that wind farms kill migratory birds. Even Senator Kennedy didn’t want a wind farm spoiling his view in his back yard. Nuclear power is the only cheap non-polluting reliable energy source. Build 400 more of them and we could use the excess electricity to generate hydrogen for cars and get us off oil.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Does anyone realise that the current high gas price is as a direct result of the war in Iraq and the attendant chaos in the Middle East?
The Russia, Middle East and Africa have the most oil reserves and are using the oil price to hurt us. WHY? They have developed apathy towards us.
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Actually the high price of oil has nothing to do with the middle east. It’s the booming economies of India and China. Goodwill will not bring down the price of oil, us using less or, us pumping more will. Saying that Obama’s goodwill will lower prices is just idiotic.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
pepsiholic
first you will need to get rid of washington corruption——i believe it was in the seventies we built a new type reactor—it used spent rods to generate power and we have enough to power country for a thousand years—-carter shut it down due to pressure from greenpeace—and slick willy had it torn down??????????????
Posted by: rodney | June 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
POW in the case of Mc Cain taught him to learn his limits as a human being, to resist as a soldier, to understand the psychological factor in an ideological war (that’s valid during the communist years). Mc Cain’s brain went through a lot of ordeals and training to learn how to survive in prison.
I don’t know how he feels about north vietnamese people to-day .Ideological wars are the worst kinds. Mc Cain was caught in that kind of war : capitalist versus communist.I would like him to explain more how he can say he hates wars, because he belongs to a military family.
Posted by: jane | June 11, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
John McCain was a prisoner of war…he DOES know about WAR.
Five years as a prisoner of War would improve his knowledge of WAR.
I think we owe him 4 years as president.
Posted by: REMEMBER NOVEMBER | Jun 11,
2008 12:22:0
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If we based our choice of president on who has been a prisoner of war, we would “owe” the presidency to hundreds of Americans who are former POW’s. He may know about war, but that doesn’t mean he know about foreign policy.
As for one who “knows about war,” he has gone both ways on torture, one day it’s horrible, the next day it’s alright.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
There have only been 2 sitting Senators who were successfully elected President: Harding and Kennedy.
Both were considered handsome or debonair by their contemporaries. Both were gifted orators. Harding’s presidency has been held by historians to have been one of the least effective. Kennedy’s was cut short tragically, which makes it more difficult to honestly measure its effectiveness in substantive terms.
Obama shares with Harding and Kennedy the gift for oratory, and is certainly, by contemporary standards, better looking than McCain.
Senator McCain has failed to acheive not only the minimal oratorical skills , but has failed, in my mind, to have matured into what one would consider “distinguished looking” in an older gentleman.
This difference as much as any policy or position on the issues leads me to suspect that Obama will succeed in November. One can only hope that his presidency does not suffer the fates of Harding or Kennedy.
Posted by: nytimer | June 11, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Actually the high price of oil has nothing to do with the middle east.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | Jun 11, 2008 6:38:14 PM
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One of the most idiotic posts I have read today. In large measure, the price of oil, like any other commodity, is determined by the rule of supply and demand. The more oil produced the lower the price and the contrary, the less produced the higher the price.
Oil is produced in the Mid-East – get it?
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Yeah, yeah. Corrupt soldier-cultist Kerry — Fannie-May Johnson was Kerry’s guy — will be huddled beneath the bus with the Anointed One, both of them parsing, explaining, and apologizing, by the end of the week.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 11, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Voters, Trends, and What Could Happen? Part IV
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Posted by: The Pink Flamingo | June 11, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Yeah, it sure looked like democrats lowered our fuel costs didn’t it? How much has gas increased since democrats took over?
Posted by: Pepsiholic | Jun 11, 2008
5:34:17 PM
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When Bush came to office the average price of oil was $29.00 a barrel; today it is over $135. a barrel. When Clinton met with the Saudis in 2002, they wanted to peg a permanent price of oil at $29.00 a barrel. Dumbya refused.
When Bush came to office the average price of gasoline was $1.29 a gallon, today here in California I just paid $4.65 cents a barrel.
And you blame this on the Democrats? Wake up!!
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
CORRECTION
When Bush came to office the average price of gasoline was $1.29 a gallon, today here in California I just paid $4.65 cents a GALLON.
And you blame this on the Democrats? Wake up!!
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
rhbate,
And what was the price of gas when democrats took power in 2006? I blame it on democrats because they won’t let us drill for oil that’s in the US.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
The president cannot do anything about the cost of oil. C’mon
Posted by: Anders Scooper | June 11, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
rhbate,
One of the most idiotic posts I have read today. In large measure, the price of oil, like any other commodity, is determined by the rule of supply and demand. The more oil produced the lower the price and the contrary, the less produced the higher the price.
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So please show me where oil output has decreased in the middle east… whoops, that’s right, you can’t.
Posted by: Pepsiholic | June 11, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Reason number 7,267 not to trust the far left
Memeorandum is overflowing with comments from The Usual Suspects regarding a statement John McCain made on NBCs Today Show today which, to them, indicated that he doesnt care nor find it important when the troops come home from Iraq. He…
Posted by: Sister Toldjah | June 11, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
The number of states we have is not an issue that concerns most Americans. We do care about this unnecessary war republicans scared up, we care about our country that the republicans don’t. The republican administration and republican legislators are doing only what is best for corporations and their lobbying buddies. We need someone who is mentally alert and fit enough to correct the mistakes and corruption that has gone on under the republican control.
Posted by: Vicki | June 11, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Speaking of age the American people would like to see Obama’s birth certificate. What’s the big secret that his campaign doesn’t want us to know. Why won’t they release it? There’s a rumor that he was born in Kenya (questioning his citizenship status to run for President) or that his name is different or his father is different, etc. They should release it to quell these many rumors.
Posted by: Maggie | June 11, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
OK, get this straight: there is no “Age Card.”
you CAN be too old to be pres. you can.
you CANNOT be too female to be pres.
you CANNOT be too black to be pres.
but, you CAN be too old.
i hope no further explanation is necessary.
Posted by: JP, milltown, nj | June 11, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Speaking of age the American people would like to see Obama’s birth certificate. What’s the big secret?
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I have seen evidence to the contrary on many sites. This allegation is quite preposterous! The idea that his actual middle name is “Mohammed” and not Hussein is hillarious. What would be the benefit to claim his name was Hussein? This is patently ludicrous.
Posted by: rhbate | June 11, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Lordy, the general will be the same as the primary — each side will investigate the “hidden” meaning of every word that the other says. More important than the word “confused” is McCain’s viewpoint on Iraq, our continuing presence there, and how we are going to manage to pay for his policy of staying there.
Posted by: M | June 11, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
What an Ignorant approach for Sen.Obama’s campaign to take. They are fully aware of the Anhauser Bush buy out bid. They knew that that would be on Sen.McCains mind, yet they are trying to trick people into thinking its due to age. They are attacking the elderly and have forgotten that many people who supported him are just as mature as Sen. McCain. In the case of Democratic senators many were older.
Posted by: distantobserver | June 11, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Democrats are grasping at straws here – they know that the surge that McCain advocated is working, calm and order is being restored in Iraq (finally). Their great idea of giving up and getting out asap is looking pretty foolish. They’re taking statements of of context to try to distract and confuse people from the real issues that matter.
Posted by: PhillyPhoton | June 11, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Barack Obama gave an interview in April to a Chicago television station and talked about his policy on Iraq.Obama tries to explain that he has never called for a withdrawal of troops from Iraq, but wants to complete the mission there:
Q: But you’ve said troops should be withdrawn (from Iraq).
A: No, no, I’ve never said troops should be withdrawn
Really? This is what his website offers for his Iraq policy: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda.
Duh!
Posted by: plin-plan | June 11, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Obama will destroy America. Do not trust him at all.
Posted by: rdotx | June 11, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Confused. Why are you opposed to the surge? Because it worked? Do you want the US to lose? Do you want the terrorists to continue to murder Iraqis? Do you want them to develop a base from which to attack the US? How many people are you ready to have murdered so that you can feel justified in your irrational hate for Bush and for the US?
Posted by: Don Meaker | June 11, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Here’s what we know about McCain’s timetable: talk to the General in July and “maybe 100 years” like Japan, Germany & South Korea. So from this we can gather that he has no timetable and actually it appears the troops will be there for a really long time but it’s okay for him as long as no one dies.
Posted by: cincyr | June 11, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Kerry keeps “forgetting” he wanted McCain for his VP.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | June 12, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
It’s better to call McCain confused rather than stupid. I think “confused” is extremely GENEROUS.
Posted by: ChayaFradle | June 12, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Does anyone know how we get “natural gas”? Our public transportation in Riverside, CA uses ONLY natural gas, and NO BLACK STUFF comes out of the back. Why can’t we use natural gas in our cars?
Posted by: johnnyappleseed61 | June 12, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Everyone knows who he or she is voting for, so WHY SPEND THE MONEY ON THESE CAMPAIGNS?
Posted by: johnnyappleseed61 | June 12, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Obama is DUMB:
“I see many fallen vets sitting in the audience today”
“Beautiful Great Lakes of Oregon”
“57 or 58 States”
“Truman was a great peace negotiator”
Obama is a LIAR:
“I never heard Wright say those things”
“My father was a goat herder”
“My uncle liberated Auschwitz”
“I only worked for Rezko for 6 hours”
“Selma got me born”
The stupid liar trying to make it look as if he holds some advantage in the intellect department just does not hold water. McCain’s 135 IQ trounces Obama’s 112.
Even the Democratic caucus rules were called “affirmative action”, just like Obama’s ejumification. If delegates were assigned like electoral college votes, Hillary would’ve won 7 weeks ago.
Posted by: pharmacist | June 12, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
People like to cite examples of an occasional Obama gaffe as somehow equivalent to, or even “worse than” the kind of persistent confusion evidenced by McCain on the campaign trail. This is ludicrous. Anyone can get tired and misspeak. Anyone can say something stupid once in a while. With reporters breathing constantly down their necks, both of these candidates are subject to constant scrutiny, and it’s not surprising that we end up hearing about their every out-of-place word.
The difference is that most of Obama’s “gaffes” tend to fall into the “jumbled words” category of misspeak, whereas most of McCain’s tend to fall into the “jumbled ideas” category. This is a major difference.
For example, Obama *knows* that there aren’t 57 states – he was saying that he had visited “47″ states (something he repeats often) and it came out wrong). McCain, on the other hand, mixed up the relationship between Al Qaeda and Shi’a/Sunnis on _more than one occasion_. This would seem to indicate that he *might not know* the difference, or that he might be having some difficulty keeping his facts straight about the differences.
Thus, the “57 states” gaffe is a “misspeak.” The “Shi’a/Sunni” gaffe – because repeated and not corrected – seems more like a “misunderstanding.” These are not in the same class of gaffe, and they are not worthy of the same level of concern. I don’t care if McCain says “beer-mark” instead of “earmark” – that’s a “misspeak,” not a misunderstanding.
But I DO care if he says that it’s “not too important” when troops come home from Iraq. That was neither a misspeak nor a misunderstanding, but McCain’s true position. And yes, it is confused. His war is a MISTAKE. There’s no talking your way out of a “gaffe” of that degree.
Posted by: thisniss | June 12, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am
How can he said something fool like that while he admits “i hate war“.
Posted by: Mk | June 12, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Here’s our biggest problem: hundreds of millions of dollar spent on these endless campaigns, and we get one candidate who at times does seem to be bordering on senility while the moron Lieberman stands behind him ready to whisper “corrections” in his ear when McCain gets confused. On the other side we have a candidate showing disturbing signs of not being the sharpest tool in the shed when he seems confused about the number of states in the union or calls for more Arab translators in Afganistan where of course no one speaks Arabic. Can these two REALLY be the cream rising to the top. It’s scary in my opinion.
Posted by: Mike | June 12, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
SEN McCAIN SAYS SEN OBAMA IS INEXPERIENCED, CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT ARE THE SO CALLED EXPERIENCE THAT SEN McCAIN HAD!!!!!!
Posted by: LORD BENNY | June 12, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
McCain is clearly confused !!!
He has flip flopped so many times.
As a republican, I am ashamed.
Will the real McCain pls stand up and stop embarassing us.
Posted by: Linda | June 12, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Hillary Clinton was “delusional” for thinking she could win the popular vote and convince the superdelegates she was a better candidate. She won the vote, but 352 Dems Elders got him the presumtive nominee status anyway. Clinton was also “stirring for a fight” because she wanted votes to count, and “thinking she was entitled” for exercising her right to run for president. It’s easy to win elections if you push the candidates out before election day. Obama’s a thug, he’s done it before. The way Obama-campaign uses the internet to disgrace the election process should be addressed. Members of the Internet community must stop this type of characterizations and force the Obama into debating where presumptive presidents candidates are suppose to debate – out in the open – candidate vs. candidate.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 12, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
At least McCain loves his country.
Posted by: Toby | June 12, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Obama must have been a protege of Bill Clinton. He has lied so much and been protected by the liberal media for so long that he actually believes himself.
He is no more qualified to lead this country than Ray Nagy is to lead Old Orleans. Hillary as his veep? Dumb and dumber…would Obama install Osama in his Cabinet? Probably would, by proxy.
Come on Obama, tell us the truth for a change, even the people in Chicago know what you’re about. “Change we can believe in” my a–.
Posted by: Ron Powell | June 13, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
How can you tell when a lawyer is lying? The same way you can tell when Obama is lying. When he moves his lips. I’m a non-partisan voter but although I don’t care for McCain, I’ll vote for him any day over some one who doesn’t even know how many states we have. My first grade grandson can help him on that. Since we can’t attribute Obama’s numerous gaffes to advanced age, I would have to say it must be stupidity. How many fallen vets do we have in the audience? Leno would love to have him for president, new material every day.
Posted by: Ron Powell | June 13, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am