Jun 27, 2008 12:55pm
Live from Unity
EmailOne of the warm-up acts here in Unity, NH: former Governor/current Senate candidate Jeanne Shaheen, who talked about why she stayed neutral in the race earlier this year.
Shaheen’s husband Billy, of course, wasn’t so neutral, having served as a national co-chair for Sen. Hillary Clinton.
Until, that is, he brought up Sen. Barack Obama’s teenage drug use with the Washington Post and was pressured to resign from the Clinton campaign.
UNITY!!!!
- jpt
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It MIGHT be the beginning of a change we can not just believe in, but change we can support.
I’m interested in seeing the platform develop. I do hope the Dems embrace what Obama has achieved in using the Internet not just to raise money to actually listen. It was a game changing error in the early part of the Clinton campaign not to grasp what Obama was achieving by that strategy and to understand why her own web pages were failing. When she changed that, she began to win.
If there is to be a unified party, there has to be a unified understanding of what the geeks have done to change politics. One can learn a lot reading these comment sections that can’t be learned just reading the A-list blogs. The power of the long tail is in the brim of the witches hat, not the pointed tip. Go where the people are.
Posted by: len | June 27, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
The polls says 60/40
60%=10.800 million voters.
40%=7.200 million voters.
Millions democrats will NOT vote for
Obama.Huge mumber…..
Stay tune…you ain’t see nothing yet..
Posted by: Nicholas | June 27, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
This is great to see. They seem very at ease with each other.
Posted by: jmc663 | June 27, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
bhrandon.
Actually those polls are 50/50 in
same cases.But i take more conservative view 60/40.
Now after labor day and 24/7 TV commercials against Obama it can be
disaster,like the Dukakis nomination.
You see democrats nominate always left
wing un-electable liberals.NO exception
this year……
Posted by: Nicholas | June 27, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
“This is great to see. They seem very at ease with each other.”
They probably are, jmc. They’ve been working as Senate colleagues for some time now. Their campaign staffs have people who worked together before and will again. The Patty Solis thing was a nasty shot across Clinton’s bow. Maybe they are rethinking that. We need more professionalism and less mean.
Meanwhile, it is their supporters who need to find common ground. We’re the ones who actually have to put someone in office and it needs to be someone we trust to deliver on the talk.
Appearances for the camera are deceiving. The power of the editing suite is undeniable. I’m waiting to see how they adjust the platform and start making a deal for us.
Then I’ll believe because I’ll finally know what I’m signing up for. Hillary I simply trust. Always have. Let’s see what the coming days bring. I’m not voting for matched sweaters; I’m sweating the match.
Posted by: len | June 27, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Len, The differences between Clinton and Obama lie in their similarities. I’m looking forward to the party coming together further.
Posted by: kat | June 27, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Actually those polls are 50/50 in
same cases.But i take more conservative view 60/40.
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Actually more like 79/21 in two most recent, but who cares?
Posted by: Remington | June 27, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
I was waiting and listening for clues that Hillary would in fact be the VP choice. The Obama/Clinton ticket is looking very sexy!
Posted by: Denise Katz | June 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Freida maybe we should all bow at Obama’s feet, chant his name and take people away in black vans if they don’t say how great a president Obama will be…What do you want from Clinton?! She’s already supporting him and helping to campaign! Oh wait, why don’t we brand Obama’s name to everyone’s arms?! Ridiculous! There’s nothing else you can ask for, they are standing side by side!
Posted by: Jen | June 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
@kat: “Len, The differences between Clinton and Obama lie in their similarities. I’m looking forward to the party coming together further.”
It could be, Kat, but the next critical step is the creation of the campaign platform. What I am trusting Hill to do is introduce realism into his campaign. We get one shot at this initially. Achievable goals are very important. My problem with Obama has been there is too much ‘we can’ and not enough ‘can do’. Hope without heat is a frozen fireplace.
If the plan is there, they are unbeatable. If not, McCain will win. We haven’t seen the last of Obama’s skeletons (see Boston Globe) and whatever is left have to be countered with a hard-headed hard-nosed approach to fixing American infrastructure. I’m not worried about the world’s opinion of us or feeling better about ourselves through social sensitivity. I’m worried about gas, roads, bridges, power supplies in winter, food costs, food safety, and local industry.
Did you see the ABC news bit about the costs of gasoline actually making it harder to outsource our manufacturing because of higher shipping costs? This is what I mean about the creation of a systemic platform, not just a wish list of the left of right, but a synergistic plan smooth as a lego set where all the parts fit.
Do that and America is unbeatable. Do that and the world’s opinion will change. We can’t pander. We must produce.
No Product. No Market. No Sale. No Pay.
Posted by: len | June 27, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Why is it that the media does not make available all the unethical things Obama has done???????
I always conduct my own research and if the general public knew of only half of what Obama has done or been an active participant with, they would never vote for him.
Obama has no record, he has no congretional past, he has no voting past: so he can say and do what he wishes. And, people are buying it!!!!!!!
If he says something that he should not have or if the media brings to light some of the items I have mentioned and made them available for view, Obama disowns what he has said or done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do we really want someone like that as President?????????????????
I don’t.
NOBAMA bow out now.
PhD
Posted by: Versailles | June 27, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Anyone who says a Dem won’t support Obama is working for Operation Chaos and is a Republican anyway.
Posted by: Drew Barry | June 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Don’t hold your breath waiting for BHO to tap Hillary for VP. The BHO camp spent 15 months teaching its supporters to revile the Clintons. They did a good job, as evidenced by the absolute loathing of the Clintons demonstrated by BHO supporters in this blog. Obama’s recent flattery of the Clintons is only to make them look like ingrates if they do not campaign for him. As soon as he is done with them he will toss them under the bus along with everyone else he has used.
Bill Clinton is too smart to fall for this. Hillary is playing along because she has to.
Posted by: David H | June 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I agree with David H.
Posted by: carljr. | June 27, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Don’t be fooled, Democrats are not uniting. The more Hillary appears with Obama, the more the injustice done to her by the DNC becomes pronounced.
For all those that say that the Dems. will return still do not get it. It is useless to even bother to explain it AGAIN, because that fact is, they don’t give a hoot, they just want our vote.
Posted by: rw | June 27, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
I’m not naive or gullible enough to fall for this whole “Unity” dog & pony show.
Clinton can fake-support Obama all she likes, and Obama can kiss up to her every day until November—It will NEVER EVER make me vote for that empty suited flip-flopper. EVER.
Posted by: PK | June 27, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Don’t be fooled, Democrats are not uniting. The more Hillary appears with Obama, the more the injustice done to her by the DNC becomes pronounced.
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Actually EVERY poll indicates the opposite. But if you prefer your opinion to reality, that’s ok.
And who is forcing Hillary to appear? No one. If she doesn’t back Obama then she must only want money. Is THAT integrity?
Same whining , different day.
Posted by: Jeanie in Pittsburgh | June 27, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Please stop crying..
If you don’t vote for obama it will be your problem. You will not hurt him but your pittiful self egoistic, distorted view and sad looser you are.
It’s about time you all grow up. If you can’t see the big picture then do whatever you wish you make your self feel good.
remember… at the end of the day?
you did it to yourself…
Posted by: Moses | June 27, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Len ….No product, no sale, no pay
Len, I agree that between the two, Clinton is the most pragmatic and results oriented, which is why she earned my vote and confidence to begin with. By similarities, I meant their platforms, plans, and ideologies. I think Obama is in touch with such primary needs as the economy and the price of gas, though Clinton spoke first and more specifically of American needs and with the most conviction. Yes, I am nostalgic about the promise she held, but unfortunately, my vote needs to go to the second best.
Posted by: kat | June 27, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Why shouldn’t Obama’s drug use be brought up? It would be for any other candidate, and he admitted to it in his book so it isn’t as though it was a secret.
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 27, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Thinking- I think the same.
Posted by: kat | June 27, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
What did Obama do that was so bad? He didn’t ever say that she was not qualified to be president. He just said that he thought he would make a better president. She said that John McCain and her were qualified by he wasn’t (all he had was a speech). She commented negatively about the Jeremiah Wright problem. He said nothing about the Bosnia gaff as well as others. By the way… What sniper fire incident did she confuse Bosnia with?
Obama might have said something negative about her that was outside of policy differences but I can’t remember it.
He won nearly twice as many states. He won Iowa, He came away with a loss by less than 4% of the popular vote in Texas and won the caucuses there netting 5 total delegates. He won Iowa. He won SC by double digits…
He won the nomination by the one measure that we’ve and the Republicans have always used, elected delegates. Super delegates simply concurred. The DNC did not hand him anything.
Doug
Posted by: Douglas Hines | June 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
D:
Hillary sunk her own ship, by showing her true character, when she made the choice to LIE about “bullet flying over her head”.
We make choices in life and have to live with them.
Those choices are a reflection of who we are. The Bullets comment was just one of many reflections.
YES WE Can
Posted by: American10 | June 27, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Yes you can? NO YOU WON’T IF WE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT! LOLOL
Posted by: Mary Anne | June 27, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Here is what Obama did that was so offensive:
He called Hillary Clinton Annie Oakley because she supported the rights of gun owners.
He told her that he did not “whine” when he saw negative ads about him. SO ALL WOMAN WHINE!
He said that “I knew her claws would come eventually.” So ALL WOMEN HAVE CATFIGHTS!
He said, “I knew she would react this way with the kitchen sink strategy when she was backed into a corner.” SO ALL WOMEN ARE OVEREMOTIONAL!
His slug of a campaign manager Axelrod swiftboated the both Clintons because Hillary stated a fact that more white men would vote for her and Bill said that black politicians won the south before, but that did not mean they would necessarily get the nomination. Axelrod is a slug and should crawl back under the rock from whence he came.
Posted by: Mary Anne | June 27, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
If she behaves the way she’s
doing now give her the
Number 2 slot.
Posted by: anon | June 28, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
If Obama had pulled his punches any more than he did, well that would have been pretty offensive. Hillary Clinton has very, very little in common with most women.
I understand that you’re hurt and angry, but it’s about the nation. I think that you know that…
Posted by: CC | June 28, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm