McCain, Clinton and Race

OBAMA’S PROMISE: A new kind of politics — not politics as usual.
THE REALITY: SOSDD

It was a cesarean selection! No natural birth.

Obama — the chamelian candidate.

His really big accomplishment so far is being able to bamboozle such a large amount of people with no resume whatsoever, just with talk.
This will go down in history as the biggest marketing ploy/scam and collective hypnosis ever.

BKMC
Wow — that kind of logic might actually convince a couple of mentally challenged people to do something.

I can understand McCain’s refusal. He refused to vote for a MLK Holiday.
But Clinton’s refusal is appalling. Her campaign was just as historic and amazing.
The World is watching! They should be ashamed.

Obama is the world’s record holder for saying the word ‘present’! Give the man some credit!

and keep our fingers crossed and “hope” that he is present when it gets time to actually get the job done.

spock: “None of the Libs congratulated Judge Thomas, (they tried to destroy him), No lib did it for Colin Powell or Condi Rice or Alberto Gonzales all firsts in their positions and brilliant at their positions and all picked by Pres. Bush No the libs attack them and called them names beyond belief!! !!”
Judge Thomas is notorious for remaining virtually silent during Supreme Court precedings. He is clearly a man out of his depth. If there ever was an affirmative action appointment, he is it.
Condoleeza Rice played a role in selling the Iraq War on false pretenses. Remember her “mushroom cloud” warnings, helping to scare the nation into war? She also ignored the memo entitled “Bin Laden determined to strike inside the US” in August, 2001. Bush was clearing brush at the time in Texas.
Alberto Gozalez was a total incompetent. He promoted the use of torture, disgracing America’s reputation, a reputation built up over decades, for respecting the Geneva Convention. Torture evidence contributed to the false allegations that Sadaam Husein was involved in 9/11. Gonzalez resigned in disgrace last year.
Yet spock describes this rogues gallery as people that have been “brilliant” in their positions.

relax?
it is a moment in history, a moment that we as americans, all americans, can be proud of.
This was a historic campaign and this is a historic win. Obamas campaign has broke through so many barriers and set all kinds of records.
Pretend like this isnt a big deal if you want, but this is a moment in time everyone can look back on at some point in the future and say
“that was the first time we ever”
so no freedom we wont relax and for you to diminish that, and for mccain to diminish that, and for hillary to diminish that is just stupid.
Condelezza Rice congratulated him.. EVEN BUSH congratulated him..
I am sorry that for you freedom this isnt important and that this isnt historical and that you fear by giving him that credit you somehow validate him as a worthy opponent.
Im sorry you need to continue to diminish him and his many achievements. I think its yours and mccains first strategic error

It’s over. If you saw McCain and Obama speak last night you know it’s over. Obama is the next President. It will not be close.

Dems won’t be united and Obama won’t dare put Hillary as VP — If so, he will just look like a kid to her and people will wonder who is real CIC..

if i remember correctly kennedy refused to shake carter’s hand on the convention floor-so please let us not pretend hillay or mccain are the first not to acknowledge the victories of the opponent.

Does anybody know what Obama’s new policy stances are today? I’m just to tired to keep up. Help!

Sonia, JFTR, Kennedy has been criticized for that ever since. It was even mentioned during last night’s coverage, all these years later.
People remember graceless acts. They tend to stay in one’s mind — and some people’s reputations.

Why does everybody try to throw race into it. Blacks and liberal news are the ones who injected the race card into this race so far

Jake,
I hope this is the last article you post about Hillary Clinton. She is yestarday’s news.
Today is a new day. An historic day.
Let’s move on to the future and the fall.
Obama ’08

spock brings up a great point that can’t be overlooked.
We didn’t hear any congratulating of the accomplishments of these black people. Let alone a black female in a first time position.
Did we hear any noise of this in the news? No. They followed the rhetoric the democrats were doing by trying to smear these people.

Cindy in NC…I contributed $40.44 last night to McCain campaign. Money talks and there were many more, like me all going to donate to McCain. DEMS WILL GET WORD OF McCAIN FUNDRAISING FROM HILLARY SUPPORTERS…..I don’t even want Hillary near that ticket…she would never get the stink off her.
Can’t wait for the Michelle tape with “whitey” coments the Reps have under lock and key until Oct. It will be too late for Hillary by then, but that’s OK. KEEP OABMA AWAY FROM THE WH!

Jake, I could have won the nomination with MSNBC/CNN in my pocket.

Whoa Debra!! A whole $40.44!

Girlofthe future,
look at the present!!Obama has lost the popular vote because in democracies we count ALL the votes cast and Hillary wins by more than a hundered thousand.It is ok to accept the fact and move on.It does not even matter because the dictatorship national committee and the slimy media have made him the candidare.

thanks JAKE for reminding us to give credit where due. harley also referenced this in regards to being graceful in the face of defeat as something that none of us should forget in our personal lives or our political preferences. thanks to both of you. it is not often that i visit the blogs that i go away with a reminder of something so basic and yet so vital as we interact on this journey.
as a hillary supporter i recognize and admire obamas many acomplishments. he ran a brilliant campaign. what is most impressive to me, is the the number of young people that obama inspired to become engaged, and energized by the political process-now that is historic.

Putnam spoke after Pelosi had been sworn in- that is, after the national election putting Democrats in charge of Congress.
Before the 2006 elections, when Republicans were trying to win, they weren’t pointing out the historic nature of Pelosi’s possible Speakership.
The last thing McCain wants to do now, or Republicans wanted to do then, is point out a vote for your opponent would be part of a wonderful historic event.
McCain has to run against Obama as a man, not against Obama the historic black figure.

Well, Drama, or whatever you call yourself, you are not 90%. You represent the caucus minority.
While you may not have any respect for those who serve in the military (much like Obama), those military men and women still serve and sometimes die to protect even the most pathetic Americans.

Obama and his minions have been talking, and continue to talk, from both sides of their mouths. They talk about transcending race, to be color blind. On the other hand, they want at every single instance to make sure you see his color. Not to mention 90% black electorate voted for him.
What will they say when McCain chooses Bobby Jindal?

Know this…
The plan for an Obama administration is to raise taxes, raise taxes, and raise taxes.
The Obama plan to fix Social Security—raise taxes.
The Obama plan to fix Medicare—raise taxes.
The Obama plan to provide prescription drugs—raise taxes.
The Obama plan for reduced cost of college—raise taxes.
And if that doesn’t work, Obama will raise taxes again, and again, and again.
If you think gasoline and energy prices are putting a drain on your personal taxes, just wait till the Obama tax plans take effect.
The tax man cometh…and his name is Barack Hussein Obama…

I thought Obama was gracious in his comments last night. I wish the bloggers had even a smidge of that! While McCain and Clinton couldn’t muster up much nicety, Condoleeza Rice seemed to find words: “The United States of America is an extraordinary country,” she said. “It is a country that has overcome many, many, now years, decades, actually a couple of centuries of trying to make good on its principles. And I think what we are seeing is an extraordinary expression of the fact that ‘We the people’ is beginning to mean all of us.” I don’t agree with her policies, but that was classy.

SO now it’s OK to call him African-American after all the times he/his campaign called out anyone who referred to his race? Oh the confusion!
Wait – I get it. Have cake, eat it.

Jayhawk, just because you invent garbage doesn’t make it true. If I could raise YOUR taxes, just yours, I’d do it.

Eddie Allen,
Earth to Eddie…Earth to Eddie…
If you don’t think Barack Hussein Obama will raise your taxes as President, you haven’t been paying attention to Obama speeches and you don’t understand the past history of how Democrat majorities perform in American government.
The only ones inventing anything about Obama/Democrat tax increases are those who say it won’t happen.
If you consider just a fragment of what Obama has promised in government programs, and you can understand that these programs will cost money, then you can understand that Obama would raise your taxes significantly…and everyone else’s.
By the way, this isn’t a caucus, so Obama supporters can’t intimidate taxes for anyone here on the blogs.
Just listen to your messiah’s speeches on how he would raise taxes.
Obama will raise taxes.
Both mine and yours.

Huh- so you obama cult followers think that after obama encouraged his followers to trash Hillary Clinton in some of the most demeaning, profane and ugly ways, she should start singing praises for him huh? Not only has obama encouraged and Never discouraged his Internet blogger supporters to spew hate continuously for the past 5 months, he hasn’t apologized to Clinton for the latest remarks made by a Catholic priest from the pulpit of obama’s (yes we know – he has departed Ha Ha Ha) church.
Sure he needs clinton right now because he can’t win the election without her. Now he is making sweet noises and being so concilliatory. I hope she does to him what he did to her after the ABC debate where she stomped his butt – the next day he gave her his “magical middle finger” and you obama supporters screamed and shouted and applauded him to no end.
No don’t expect anything from Clinton for obama – she has so much more class in her little pinkie than this hypocritical, arrogant, self-serving person ever will have if he lives to be 10000 years old. To obama from Clinton – I say say screw you obama like to have tried to screw Clinton. You’ll never get my vote bucko – If Clinton is not on the ballot, I vote McCain. This is my and millions of Clinton’s power over the hating obama followers – you’ll never get our votes.

Geesh, give him a break. We’ve learned that any white person who mentions Obama’s ethnicity is a racist. Now the media is critical because McCain and Clinton aren’t pointing out the obvious in regards to Obama. I’d say Clinton has learned the hard way and McCain has been paying attention.

Gnat;
Some, like gnats, know what the pieces are while others know the game.
Checkmate!

Of course if you ask Ferraro, Obama is only the nominee BECAUSE he is black. You know, like all those other black presidential nominees we’ve had in the past. Same old same old, right guys? Am I right?

Well Special, hate to burst your bubble, but we have been in the middle east for a long time. Gas prices have risen $1.50 a gallon since November of 2006. Can’t change the facts babe…

The price of gas is also changed by the value of the dollar, which has lost 1/2 its value since Bush’s “permanent campaign’ and the fake war in Iraq started.
Since Aug 2007 the value of the dollar has dropped like a stone.

McCain’s eyesight isn’t what it used to be, so he’s probably not aware that Obama is African American.

Brilliantly said Jake,
McCain will not loose any votes over this, but if he was true to the core concerning his patriotic heart for America he would have praised the American public because they chose the Democratic candidate that ran the best campaign irregardless of his race and transcended the racial barriers of the past. He would have expressed his pride in the country because of this as well as his confidence that America will again choose the candidate with the best ideas and qualification regardless of his race or AGE!!
What a missed opportunity for Mr Mcain!

Cindy in NC
Where do you stand on waterboarding prisoners?
Neither Clinton nor Obama approve.
McCain is ok with requiring prisoners to give testimony against themselves and to torture prisoners by waterboarding them like witches were by the Puritans, which is against the Geneva convention for treatment of prisoners, and against the Constitution.
You’ll get over it. She will get to be a supreme court Justice if Obama wins.

Thanks Irish Gal. I bet you are way under 65.
Did you know that most independents over 65 and a majority of conservatives over 65 are opposed to McCain? They know what it is like to go to the pantry and forget why they made the trip.

The whiners who oppose Obama because of his nutty minister are merely seeking an excuses to extend the failed Bush era. Hey, white voters (like me) and Republicans voters (unlike me) have for years taken marching orders without question from bizare ministers like Falwell, Hagee, Robertson, Haggerty too many others to mention. Lets look at what is in a candidate’s heart and mind, not what a silly preacher says.

Irish Gal,
Any chance you can compare and contrast the point of view of the candidates, or are you one of those right wingers we see on TV who can only shout unsubstantiated personal vituperation?

Thanks Tommy T. I agree. We ought to judge the candidates on what they say, but some people say, we become like the company we keep.
Therefore I assert for those less rational than you:
I don’t think his former minister is nutty. I think he was angry and justifiably so.
For example
The CIA trained bin Laudin and worked side by side with him and his team in Afghanistan for ten years.
That is a pure fact. Undeniable.
Your tax dollars at work, training terrorists.
That is an example of the phrase grumpy Rev Wright used two days after 9-11, when he said “OUR chickens have come home to roost”.
That’s “our” chickens. Yours, mine, ours. OUR tax dollars at work, OUR CIA, training terrorists.
If YOUR tax dollars and YOUR CIA trained the person bin Laudin, who admitted he commanded the operation which resulted in 9-11, then your/our/my chickens DID indeed, come home to roost. We all eat the karma for US policy, even the ‘innocent’.
Not only that, but shortly before 9-11, a retired high ranking CIA official, a Rockefeller, confessed on national public radio, that he had personally arranged to overthrow the legitimate regime of Iran and installed the Shah, himself. The Iranians were angry about that. The Shah stayed in power for decades, through the use of a spy system which was brutal. When the Shah left Iran and came to the US for medical treatment, his government was overthrown by the Ayatollahs who said of the US, that we are in league with the Devil. Remember?
That is another chicken. That Iranian chicken who noticed our techniques were not only undemocratic but supported a despotic ruler for a lower price of oil, is now buying a nuclear plant from the Russians, which when it is completed will generate enough fissionable material to make one A-bomb the size of Nagasaki every two week.
So let us not pretend that our hands are clean.
Our chickens are all over the middle east and now and then they do apparently come home to roost.
I could go on. I wont bore you.
I can deal point by point with all of Rev Wright’s screaming. It was angry sure enough but it was accurate in every single regarding the bin Laudin chickens. Most of what Rev Wright says in the version that plays every night on TV, is quoting a US white Ambassador. The white US ambassador said, OUR CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.
Rev Wright was quoting him.
I know he is portrayed as off the wall by the TV spin guys. Half them dont know that Rockefeller overthrew the Iranian government or that he did it to keep the Brits in their sweetheart oil deal.
That chicken came home to roost during Carter’s term.
It was spun that Carter was weak on foreign affairs but we know now that Bush I was involved in treason selling missiles to the Iranian terrorists in return for helping Bush win the election by making Carter look weak. How do we know? We put the salesman who arranged the deal between Bush and the Ayatollah in the slammer.
He lives in Maryland.

Okay, okay, the age reference was to McCain, not Clinton, who preceded the reference.

Debra people are and have been loosing there homes. Sen. Barack has had nothing to do with it. who are you blaming that on. The people who saved the credit industry, Do you know who that is. are you saying everyone will become homeless. Who did you vote for?? Why don’t you find out what he stands for. He is against those people who would do these things. Don’t you know thats why he doesn’t have support of big business or lobbyist???