McCain: On Some Issues ‘Obama’s Word Cannot Be Trusted’

McCain’s BIG-TALK is border lining on actually being insulting to the millions of people who believe in the national vision of change. The GOP have not only ruined our economy, but their war of aggression against Iraq has sent off a chain reaction that has destabilized the world and its economy, and THAT folks is what has brought upon you the high gas prices. It is at best a LEFT-HANDED way of bringing about a much needed change in our nations transportation infrastructure dependencies.

Amazing, Mr. Twisted Story McCain talks about being the truth teller. People who live in glass houses should not be throwing stones. Lets begin with the one cited in the article, “McCain has frequently mentioned his desire for the campaign with Obama to be “respectful,” but has been ramping up more personal attacks on Obama in recent weeks.” Desperate people do desperate things!!!

John McCain has changed his positions on major issues so many times recently it’s getting hard to keep track of where he stands on things. He was against the Bush tax cuts before he was for them. He was against offshore drilling before he was for it. He seems to be modifying his positions on immigration now also. He seemed to support privitazation for Social Security at one time. I honestly don’t know where he is with that anymore. I could care less about the town hall meetings. The concept originated from the McCain campaign anyway. Further, I prefer small donors funding a political campaign. I don’t like the idea that my tax dollars are helping to fund Mr. McCain’s campaign.

Time to take the gloves off, Obama. Go after the old coot

when obama is entering white house next year all he has to do is walk in backwards—and mccain will be yelling see itold you i won he is leaving

Obama is really one of the most progressive leader we ever seen in recent history. Regardless of the way the politics need to be played to win this election he is a man to be trusted for the big job in this planet & nothing will stop him to achieve that.

i still think cheney should take mccain quail hunting—only repubs would shoot each other.

McCain and the rest of the Senate Republicans decided to side with health insurance lobbyists the other night. Indeed, actions do speak louder than words.

doc
there goes our pay checks again—-wonder how much the payoff—–

I do not believe posters are really serious when they say “we don’t know about Obama” so don’t vote for him.
If you don’t know about him, then you haven’t been paying attention. Learn about him and if you don’t like him then that’s fine, but advertising your ignorance is silly. Plus, for those of us who know where McCain (currently) stands it is a very unconvincing argument.

Rodney, you have a problem with a war hero who loves his country passionately?

Senator Obama is a very far left radical taking over the Democratic Party. No wonder 80% of Clinton voters are switching to McCain or will not vote at all. The Democratic Party has no credibility at all now that a socialist is pulling the strings. America is not ready to become a socialist/communist nation and that is what Obama means by CHANGE. Obama thinks we should nationalize the oil companies, pay for food stamps and housing for those who choose not to work and let in any and every immigrant, illegal or otherwise. He does not care about America’s tradional values. He thinks everything needs to be changed.

Opa – most of these posts are made by McCain supporters. They choose to slander Obama by making it look like they are Hillary supporters. Same crapola for quite awhile.

doc—-if we put an end to the ambulance chasing lawyers–and the frivilous lawsuits healthcare would be cut in half—but public has a problem with the lore of getting something for nothing—i see many of these people every day—-and the fools do not realize that they are and will pay the bill

Senator Obama is a man of great vision and will make a great president. Because he is a leader he does just follow what others think he should follow. Senator McCain wants him to follow his directions in debate format and campaign financing, but Senator Obama is a leader and makes decision best for his campaign. I believe he will be a great president that will move our great country forward in the right direction. I my opinion he can be trust and will keep his promise to the american people.

doc–and the lawyers plus insurance companies get a whole lot richer—-it is like a runaway train—-and we the people pay all the costs

Sally, it turns out, seems absolutely correct. The mindless posters who do not argue any particular position of Senator Obama’s but rather choose to deceive have taken over this blog.
I hope they keep it up, it only hurts McCain more and shows their cynicism towards the intelligence of Americans.

I hope that americans who are unsure or have formed a negative opinion of Senator Obama will read his book “Audacity of Hope” they will find that Senator Obama is a compassionate and brillant man, who cares deeply about the people of america. If they examine his positions and policy for themselves, I belieive that they will conclude he is the best choice for america and can be trusted to keep his promises to the american people.

obama flip flops more than a boat full of fish, he is an empty suit, with no experience, no real jobs, no nothing, except taking handouts because of affirmative action, free college, free law school, free everything, he deserves because he is better than the TWP, right, guess who is not voting for him, the TWP by the millions,

It’s funny that McCain is questioning someone else’s word…he can’t even remember what his own positions are. Is he for amnesty, or against it? Is he for NAFTA, or against it? Is he for off shore drilling, or against it? Is he for the Bush tax cuts, or against them? Etc…
John McCain is one of the least principled politicians in the last ten years…and that’s pretty astounding!

Vote Republican: Lose all will to live!!!

I do agree with McCain on this. Since Obama has very little record to go on, the integrity of his word is of critical importance. If he gets elected president it will be too late to examine whether his campaign promises and commitments are genuine or just “what a politician says”.

Mad in Michigan – Sorry, but Arizona has one of the highest foreclosure rates in the country and given McCain’s stance against earmarks one could say he’s done absolutely NOTHING for the state of Arizona. He was also influential in getting a EUROPEAN aircraft maker an influential contract against Boeing, the only AMERICAN aircraft maker.

Anyone else notice the faces on those people McCain has at his town hall meetings? They look like they just came from a driving education class and will lose their license for 6 mons if they don’t go.

No doubt Obama is a mesmerizing orator and is saying the right things to get elected, from my point of view. A man with little record and minimal experience will become the most powerful person on the planet and I’m not entirely sure what he will do when he becomes president. With no track record to go by he can appeal to a broad swath of folk but it does little to tell us how he will govern.

Homer…I like that one. Republicans: Peace and prosperity are overrated.

how many times has mcclown flip-flopped already? also, didn’t mccain once make a false confession and denounce america when he was a pow? mccain may be a former pow, but he’s currently a pos. lol

maybe Obama is afraid to debate a “crdible” canidate.

buck—
Thanks, you just proved my point.

AC – mccain is an american hero who once denouced america during wartime in front of tv cameras in a vietnamese pow camp. he has no character or honor.

If people don;t smarten up, well have Obama as President and he will bankrupt this country, increase taxes on everyone over 75k, increase big government, and damage the security of the nation.

Jschm: You have just described the Bush administration. HA HA

jschm – oh stop with the fear mongering already. as far as i’m concerned, if you republicans didn’t want your taxes raised, you shouldn’t have started a war you can’t finish. time to pay the piper, dude.

Hey there’s Mary!

Jackie – I’ll choose the candidate who doesn’t own 7 homes.
Edith – I’ll choose the candidate was was not born in Panama.

@humm: When do you want to declare victory? What criteria?

Ryan, that tells us a lot about you and nothing about anyone else

I can not vote for Mr. McCain. At one time I was planning to, but he called Pastor Hagee’s words crazy. How can any true Christian support anyone who called the words of Pastor John Hagee crazy? It appears Senator MaCain will do or say anything just to get elected, even say ugly things about the words of a great preacher. We can not trust a person like him to hold the top government office in the world.

If John McLame were elected, he would probably surrender to Vietnam and make another false confession. He is a traitor who cannot be trusted.

What could be worse than McCain……McCain/noun..verb..9/11 Guiliani.

Rabid outburst??? You’re hilarious ace. Like I said, you know all when it comes to the people I’ve met. I’m sure they all know you by name. It is NOT an opinion you fool. Any RATIONAL person would admit that Obama is phoney.
McCain ’08

Ryan – did you know that Reagan and Nixon and Bush all Presided over massive expansions of the federal government that were actually larger than those of the Democratic Presidents that preceeded them? I guess that makes them all Communists, too. Your grasp of reality and facts seems about as tenuous as Mary’s.

The u.s. government may stop Obama from viewing certain documents because his security clearance is in question. There is an investigation underway, as we speak. There is question if, in fact, he is a u.s. natural born citizen. This investigation should be complete in about 30 days.

Ryan, please answer my question – do you support the iraq war?

Hillary Clinton said that it was an honour to debate Barack Obama. Does McCain think it is an honor to debate Obama. We have not heard one single word complementing Obama. Whereas Obama has been gracious in his praise of McCain personally. Why does McCain want to debate Obama, so that he can attract attention for free. Right now McCain fails to inspire or get an enthusiastic response and out of desperation that his campaign has no momentum, he is making more personal attacks.

Lisa – tell it to the Amish. They even lobbied successfully to be exempt from Social Security. LOL

Krissy, you are truly unbelievable. I shouldn’t be surprised though. Liberal’s are pretty naive people. They don’t call them Liberal Elitists for nothing. You guys truly think you’re above everybody else.
McCain ’08

Top Rank: Obama wants a pull out over 16 months…I think everyone wants that too.. I really don’t care what happens over there. I remember the Viet Nam war. What a waste of so many lives.

They say the apple doesn’t far from the tree. Obama’s dad was/is (if he’s still alive) a complete dirtbag…..just sayin.

Obama bloggers don’t seem to have the ability to discuss the issues with any amount of depth. Like Obama – like followers. They are really good at name calling, but not much else.

Brian That would all be significant if the other candidate, Obama, wasn’t flip-flopping more in the past couple weeks then McCain has done in decades.
Obama is the “new politics” and “change” candidate remember? So his backing out of public financing when his campaign is committed to change and the spirit of public financing which is to lessen the influence of special interests on politicians- is a much bigger letdown.
He’s turned out to be just another “old politics” politician.

Remember, Obama is for “change”. Obama changes his mind, anytime, anywhere, on any subject.

Do you remember the last canidate that was for change? Yes, Mr. Bush was that man, now the democrats want to prove they are just as stupid, as the republicans were the 2000 election.

Awake,
After he loses the election that can be his day job…lol

Nothing like a naive, undereducated redneck audience for McCain to spew lies to. Shame on him. McCain is the one who can’t be trusted…just listen to him laugh. He is truly disturbed.
Obama ’08!!!!!!!!!

Kevin And Obama’s voting for Cheney’s energy bill in 2005 is explained how? It’s the only tax cut Obama has ever voted for and wasn’t it nice it was for the oil industry?

You have to remember McCain has some mental instability, he tends to snap. This may not be good for someone who has his finger on the button. Several of his fellow conservatives have questioned his temper and stability. Moreover, can you really trust a man whose wife waited for him patiently only to have him leave her when he gets back from Vietnam? He talks about his morals on the battle field but he leaves his wife who suffered a serious car accident. Additionally his cover-up of his wife’s drug addiction. Do you really want someone who is popping pills as the first lady? This could potentially embarass the US if she were to relapse at a foreign event.

kevin – great points! Thanks!!!!!

Sandy You must be proud of the fact then that Obama stood on a podium in PA and said he wants to take us back to the foreign policy traditions of George Bush Sr and Ronald Reagan.

can anyone believe this election as truth?obama represents the lesser of 2 evils,end of day they are merely puppets of a cloister of lies that amaericans are believing,sucking up to, and like lemmings are marching of with their ideal’s of patriotism,crazy stuff, i am exiling as we speak,lol,this country has screwed itself, history will reveal this, later taters

Merri. What tax increase? Do you have a job? Bush CUT my income taxes for which I am grateful. When taxes are cut, both personal and corporate, TAX REVENUES TO THE FED ACTUALLY INCREASE!! Lots of documentation here. Ireland recently decreased corporate taxes to the bone. The result was that business is booming, full employment and a projected 3-4 percent GNP increase for the next two years.
MCCAIN/ROMNEY 08
Posted by: Temagami | Jun 29, 2008 1:47:30 AM
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What tax increase? You do know the cost of the Iraq war is being paid for with debt compounded by huge interest. That along with other debt will be paid for by generations of americans. Also the Iraq war has caused oil and gas prices to increase. Disruption of oil flow explains part of it.

Vera good point you r making, both Obama and his wife never knew any crap until now when he’s running for president.He just knew this, his wife first time adult life proud of her country, wow there are other things that they just now found out as well like we don’t have 57 states. That is the kind of change we need..ha..ha..ha JOKE!!!!!!!!!

Merri. What tax increase? Do you have a job? Bush CUT my income taxes for which I am grateful. When taxes are cut, both personal and corporate, TAX REVENUES TO THE FED ACTUALLY INCREASE!! Lots of documentation here. Ireland recently decreased corporate taxes to the bone. The result was that business is booming, full employment and a projected 3-4 percent GNP increase for the next two years.
MCCAIN/ROMNEY 08?????
Ok Let IRELAND PAY FOR THE IRAQ WAR FOR
JUST 4 YEARS AND SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING!
and then tell them they have to do it
for another 100 YEARS! just a Mcshame!

Martin. Trust me….most on this site don’t know what you are talking about when you mention “Capital Gains” For MANY,MANY of us seniors, Obama will burn us when he doubles the capital gains tax. These Obama bloggers have to be mostly kids who don’t have a clue about the laws of economics. Pitty.

ALPAIGN — The Congressional Research Service, as well as every reliable newspaper, HAS ALREADY REPORTED THAT THE “BUSH CHENEY ENERGY BILL” ACTUALLY INCREASED THE TAXES ON OIL COMPANIES, AND THAT BY THE TIME Obama voted for FINAL PASSAGE, MANY of the Bush administration’s original proposals HAD BEEN STRIPPED OUT,
The Congressional Research Service calculated that the oil and gas industry LOST MORE TAX BREAKS THAN IT GAINED IN THE 2005 legislation, which resulted in a NET TAX INCREASE that Congressional Research Service put at $300 million INCREASE over an 11-year period.

Merri paaallllllllllleeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz dude don’t embarrace yourself saying things that have no facts. I’m doing stocks followed internation economy every freakin day tick by tick and drop by drop of oil. NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO the war did not cause oil to go high and noooooo as far as I’m concerning I have not pay an extra dime of tax for any war dude. Oh matter of fact I’m still waiting for my $1500.00 from Mr. wonderfull Bush stim package.

ALPAIGN — The Congressional Research Service, as well as every reliable newspaper, HAS ALREADY REPORTED THAT THE “BUSH CHENEY ENERGY BILL” ACTUALLY INCREASED THE TAXES ON OIL COMPANIES, AND THAT BY THE TIME Obama voted for FINAL PASSAGE, MANY of the Bush administration’s original proposals HAD BEEN STRIPPED OUT,
The Congressional Research Service calculated that the oil and gas industry LOST MORE TAX BREAKS THAN IT GAINED IN THE 2005 legislation, which resulted in a NET TAX INCREASE that Congressional Research Service put at $300 million TAX INCREASE over an 11-year period.

IT IS DINOSAURS LIKE JOHN McCAIN WHO SAT AROUND IN WASHINGTON FOR DECADES WHO ARE THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING NOW IN THIS COUNTRY.
JOHN McCAIN SAT AROUND YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR VOTING AGAINST BILLS WHICH WERE AIMING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THE OIL AND GAS CRISIS WE NOW FACE.
IT IS DINOSAURS LIKE JOHN McCAIN WHO SAT IN WASHINGTON FOR DECADES, AND DID NOTHING TO FIX OUR COUNTRY’S CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN OUR ROADS DECAYING, AND BUILDINGS, AND BRIDGES COLLAPSING, AND PEOPLE DYING.
IT IS DINOSAURS LIKE JOHN McCAIN WHO SAT AROUND IN WASHINGTON FOR DECADES WATCHING, AS MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS OF JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY WERE BEING OUTSOURCED TO MEXICO, INDIA, AND CHINA.
IT IS DINOSAURS LIKE JOHN McCAIN WHO SAW NO PROBLEMS WITH THE FACT THAT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WERE LOSING THEIR JOBS.
(John McCain has said out of his own mouth that “He is the BIGGEST FREETRADER EVER”)
THE ONLY THING JOHN McCAIN SEEMED TO DO SUCCESSFULLY FOR ALL THOSE DECADES HE WAS IN WASHINGTON WAS COLLECT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM LOBBYISTS TO LINE OWN POCKETS.

We dont need McCain, Obama is for Change, and we should all thank the good Lord that Obama did not got AIDS when he had gay sex with Larry Sinclair.

Teragami – I’ve been reading your posts and I’ve got to call you out. You’re such a hypocrite. All you do is post ad hominem attacks on Obama and his supporters and then whine when they do it to you. You don’t attempt to engage people on the issues at all, and when you do, you do so on the most laughable terms imaginable. You’re pathetic and an embarassment to McCain and his supporters – do us real Conservatives a favor and just shut up already, You make the rest of us look bad.

alpaig — John McCain was not one of those Republicans who voted for that bill, he voted against it — so John McCain had this one wrong.

Simple truth is Obama is HIDING from debates with McCain……Why? If he thinks he is all that – why be afraid?
Obama’s preaching like speeches are meaningless. He’s just saying what you want to hear according to the polls. All talk, no nothing new.

They were due to fatigue, Martin (2:36 am). Unlike McCain, Obama actually works on weekends. So, he gets tired from time to time. I’m sure you do too.

Both these candidates suck. Plain and simple. I am not sure which one is worse.

Here are some examples of flip flopings between Obama and Mccain that some of you in here are so obssessed to. Its very simple Mccain’s flip flop example is that he decided to wear green tie tomorrow but he ends up wearing red (big deal). Now here’s Obama’s flip flop example he married someone for 20 years and now say “I did not agreed with what you say or what your beleives are”.

Bill, you’re pretty stupid if you’d trust McCain but not Obama. McCain has zero credibility and is identical to GW Bush on the failed policies of the last eight years. I never cease to be amazed at how downright dumber than dirt neo-cons are, who learn nothing from their own Republican failure and then go on to point out in judgmental scorn the supposed faults of the Democrat. Never cease to be amazed. Every neo-con needs to have their salary hit up to help pay for the mess they’ve made and they need to suffer more from this Republican-caused recession.

McCain needs to shut up and go back to the senate. He is a complete fool and so is the dumb-fools that vote for him. He’s an old, one-step in the grave, worthless politician. And most of all a total liar. He’s got his nerve saying someone’s word is no good. I can’t wait until November 4 when we get the chance to finally show this old fool what the democrats can do. Watch and learn people it will be a landslide victory for Democrats this November!

That really sums it up for me. The number one reason why I am not voting for Obama is he cannot be trusted.

“COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!”
And that’s EVERY REASON not to vote Republican

Mr. Obama just says what you want to hear.

Obama and Hillary say: VOTE OBAMA

On this particular point McCain is right. Obama has accurately depicted what the republicans like to accuse the democrats of being. This and global warming are about the only thing that McCain is right about.

obama to save the world.

The GOP is going to lose so bad in Nov, they won’t know what hit them.

McCain, pay your property taxes.

MqCain, is prenup not all about trust?
How do you expect oversee what is about the largest economy in the world, when, within your own household, the wife dearest cannot bring herself to trust you?

McCain is so old he doesn’t remember what he has promised/said. Sen. Lieberman has had to correct him several times for misstatements he’s made. His bashing Obama only makes him look worse than he already is. Too bad the republicans can’t find another candidate. He’s a clone of GWB.

John McCain started taking credit for a GI Bill that passed that he adamantly opposed saying it would give troops too much incentive not to re-enlist. And as for saying Obama’s word not being trusted because he has committed to 10 town hall debates, Obama at best said it might be a good idea, but never committed to it. Why should Obama carry McCain and give him exposure?

McCain, is prenup not all about trust?
How do you expect to oversee what is about the largest economy in the world, when, within your own household economy, the wife dearest cannot bring herself to trust you?

Obama has poor voting records. How can voters trust the person who has poor voting record? In the election, voters should mark their votes as “Present”.

McCain, is prenup not all about trust?
How do you expect to oversee what is about the largest economy in the world, when, within your own household economy, the wife dearest cannot bring herself to trust you?

McCain, is prenup not all about trust?
How do you expect to oversee what is about the largest economy in the world, when, within your own household economy, the wife dearest cannot bring herself to trust you?

doc
when a guy like warren buffet is embarassed as to the taxes he pays—just maybe someone should listen—there is too much in too little hands and needs to change

McInsane will do/say anything to win, he knows that due to his age, this is his last shot at it. Too bad he can’t see that it ain’t gonna happen.

McCain, is prenup not all about trust?
How do you expect to oversee what is about the largest economy in the world, when, within your own household economy, the wife dearest cannot bring herself to trust you?

McInsane would be the only president in history to wear a life alert!!

McCain, is prenup not all about trust?
How do you expect to oversee what is about the largest economy in the world, when, within your own household economy, the wife dearest cannot bring herself to trust you?

obama is an Arrogant, Radical Fraud – and he is NOT qualified to lead our country. To the obama group – WHAT exactly are his positions – WHY should I vote for him???? Hillary Clinton is the best qualified for our country – McCain is a good 2nd choice – anybody but obama!
The obama group – just like him – is that reason enough to give him the position of President of the USA????

Hmmm, let’s see…the definition of capital gains is the profit made of the sale of something like real estate, stocks or bonds that was sold for more then the purchase price. So, with the exception of selling a home, I would guess that the majority of average working class people aren’t playing the stock market too often, and are more concerned with putting gas in the car and food on the table. This must leave those that make more money to worry about paying more taxes on the sale of their stocks and bonds and summer homes, etc…..sounds fair to me!

I certainly hope capital gains taxes are increased! It’s what made the 90s so successful and allowed the Dems to balance the budget… and still the rich got richer.
FYI… it will NOT affect anyone’s 401K — 401Ks are NOT not subject to capital gains taxes. that

bush got into an oil war to enrich his friends in the oil business and mcpain will continue it to enrich the defense contractors

Molly -
Nobody is giving Obama the position of President. He won the primary fair and square in spite of the nomination being a fait accompli for Hillary. And he will win the general election and Hillary’s die-hards will have proven nothing except that they invested their politics in the personality of one woman and not in any sense of what is right.

Badger,
Nice try…

Mary,
Where did you pull that “80% number from”. As of today about 55% of Hillary’s voters say they will vote for Obama and 23% say they will vote for McCain. I expect the number for Obama will continue to increase. If you don’t care about women’s issues, the war, the economy, health and a vision for the future, by all means vote for McCain. BTW, McCain has flipped flopped on so many issues, it’s becoming hard to keep track.

Mary – Guess you haven’t read Scott McClellan’s book “What Happened” seems to me the biggest liar is running the White House, the one really put no value of human life – your life or that of anyone else. George W. Bush. No one can top that and that’s a fact and he has the job approval ratings to show it.

Mary: “If elected, he will take away all of your rights and all of your money.”
OK, now you are not even trying. LOL

There was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq until we went then and opened up the borders. Iran was a power but it was contained by Iraq. Saddam was a dictator with evil crazies related and working with him but his people didn’t live in the hell that exists now or over the past few years.
Aside from the over 4,000 dead and tens of thousands of US troops injured–let alone their “uninjured” relatives the flawed invasion has other costs.
One other example of the economic burden of the flawed invasion of Iraq. Our military presence in Iraq alone accounts for almost 10% of US consumption. Summarized from AP:
The U.S. consumes about 21 million of the world demand of 86 million barrels of oil per day.
The Defense Department is the nation’s single largest user of energy. At 1.6 million gallons a day in Iraq, the war alone accounts for over 7.6% of US demand. If we were to account for total military, let alone government usage we would be over 10% at least.
Getting out of Iraq would cut our consumption almost 10% and likely cut prices too. Iraq is guaranteed consumption at this point.

It’s interesting the way Republicans always whine about taxes, but continue to place the real tax burden on the middle class, and relieve the Corporation of responsibilities.
If you don’t want high taxes, WHY OH WHY DID YOU START THIS UNENDING WAR IN IRAQ?
And by the way….what ever happened to “We will find the ones who did this (9/11) and they will pay?” I guess the Republicans thought if they waved something shiny in front of us (like a war in Iraq), we might be distracted. Well, it worked…..for a while.
No more. Not this time. Not this time!

Red foot,
You must be joking, right? Look at the economy when Clinton was in office and look at the economy over the last eight years under Bush and the Repubs. Obama has repeatedle said that he will NOT tax the middle class as the REPUBS are doing NOW. You would be more credible if you came here with facts instead of untruths about the Dems and saying anything without providing any sources what so ever. And just what social programs are you talking about? The old line thinking that the Repubs have tried to put off on the Dems won’t work. NOT THIS TIME!!! The American people are too smart and have become more political astute to buy the BS. BTW, if we stop spending $12 billion dollars a month on a war that we got into because of lies from Bush and the Repubs, the economy would not be in the tank and we will have money to try and improve our country. As it is our children and grandchildren will still be trying to pay off the debt we owe China to keep the war going. You do know that we have borrowed money from China to fund this war? Or has this fact also escaped you?

ROMNEY??? LMAO, he did a lot for us here in MA….please temagmai, spend some more time looking for loopholes for your capital gains…

Since the MSM seem to have a problem with direct speech, I’ll say it for them: Obama is a liar.

Party of Elites, I take issue with the beginning of your statement: “Why is it acceptable to belittle McCain for his age while it is taboo to even mention Obama is a black man?” How can you compare a persons ethnicity with age? Most normal people know that getting old is normal. How come your type never mention the fact that….um he’s white. You sound those people who compare homosexuality with being black. As if being black is a state of being unnatural or cursed. Well, party of elites, people don’t turn black, they do get old, but we are all born of our parent’s exactly what our parent’s were. Your issue is not with the people but with the one that created them. Care to challenge Him on that one?

You can trust McCain. He will stand strong with his “100 more years in Iraq message”

Doc,
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. You make good points.
I am also a physician and find myself targeted by Obama’s taxes. I can readily afford my home and childrens education now but, when I add up all of the new taxes I’ll be facing I will be forced to leave my home and make significant adjustments. We are so blessed by this great country that I am not angry about it, but I am anxious and nervous. My 2007 actual tax federal+state is 39.2% – that is what I pay after my deductions, as a percentage of my income. Mr. Obama’s plan will push it over 50%, and I cannot afford that and also keep my home and kids’ educational options. I agree that $137k is a lot of money to many people, but families making that kind of money drive Toyotas and have $400k nice houses in middle class neighborhoods. They are not driving mercedes and living on the country club. They struggle each year to pay their expenses. If Obama wishes to target the actual rich, why not make the high brackets at $650k gross as you suggest?
I guess my main point was that the problem with Bush was not Bush himself… it was Bush plus the same party in legislative power. The excesses of each party are held in check by the other party when the executive and legislative branches are in opposite hands. All forecasts indicate that the congress will be further to the left after this election cycle. If Obama is elected, certainly good ideas from the left will be passed; but also the inevitable bad baggage will also get rubberstamped and passed, never facing harsh scrutiny or oversight from the other side.
In a sense, a vote for Obama is a vote to continue Bush. By that, I mean is it a vote to continue the excesses and lack of balanced power and adversarial oversight that results when the executive and legislative are in opposite hands. The change I would like to see is a change to balanced power, where only the good plans from either side of the aisle pass through. That naturally occurs when the executive and legislative branches are in opposite hands. When one party controls both the legislative and executive for a long period, it leads to excesses (Bush 43; Carter) and national problems; when there is an adversarial relationship there tends to be greater accountability, and hence national progress and happiness (Clinton; Reagan). You can argue that we have such a balance right now, and in a sense you are right; Bush cannot pass controversial or right-wing agenda anymore, and congress cannot pass bad baggage legislation over a veto. However, there is too much animosity and we need a fresh face. McCain panders to the right just as Obama panders to the left during this election cycle, but in the end I expect either of them to govern as they have in the past. For McCain, that means a bipartisan spirit (McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, etc) to accomplish common sense tasks. In combination with a democratic congress, I am hopeful that we will see another period of economic expansion and best practice policies being crafted for this nation.

Everybody talks about McCain’s age. I truly wonder if he suffers from PTSD after captivity in Viet Nam.
Didn’t you all read about that NVA jailer who said he would vote for him? Perhaps he knows McCain’s codeword that would turn him into the real Manchurian Candidate.
Forget the skin cancer, where’s McCain’s psychological evaluation?

To paraphrase an old GOP talking point: “I want to make the GOP small enough so I can take it to the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”
McCain is helping to make that possible. Let the guy rant…

Rational Voter – boy did you outdo yourself. It is called age discrimination. It happens just like race discrimination and gender discrimination. Guess the dems are okay to pick and choose who it is okay to discriminate against and belittle. Where do they stand with the mentally handicapped – can we rip them apart, some weren’t born that way, they became that way. Let me know, I’m a little confused on who is fair game according to your standards.

bluebird – The candidates have had their plans and policies plastered all over the place for more than a year, if you are not aware of them, that’s your own problem.
And McCain does not have a plan to lower gas prices in the near future either. No one does.

It is very important to acknowledge America is at a serious crossroads in terms of our direction for the future. We know JM path…it is simply the status quo. We as Americans know that this path is a short sighted and dangerous one. BO for all his faults is one leader who has stepped up to lay out a progressive vision to lift all citizens. We have endured government that cateredcto the needs of the first estate, CHANGE is the mantra most Americans agree with and BO is that change. If you are less informed, it is up to you to research and find out and put your petty partison issues aside for the sake of our future generations.

How can you intrust your new wine to the weakness of an old wineskin?

yes you cannot trust Obama, that is the fact.

McCain can’t even stay within the law of his own campaign finance reform package. Every day he is breaking the law, as he is legally bound to only use public financing. What a slimebag… “Hey, don’t look at me! Look over here!”

Obama’s Plan is in the land of fairy tales and wishes. It all involves using tax dollars that we don’t have! I want to see plan that makes sense and that we can afford. I don’t care if it takes time to reach the goals. I have seen nothing like that from Obama. And, if he had all these great plans while in the Senate less than a whole term, then how come the democratic congress has done nothing to implement his big ideas? The DNC is responsible as the legislative body in power. And, they continue to do nothing.

Obama started off his quest for the nomination by citing the one anti-Iraq war speech he gave while running for office in the most liberal district in Illinois, thereby, attracting the left and anti-war activists, who became the grassroots of his campaign.
Then, he played the race card on Bill Clinton’s characterization of Obama’s anti Iraq war position as “fairy tale” to solidify the black vote behind him.
After he had the black vote behind him, he stood the NAACP meeting in New Orleans so as not to be seen as just another black candidate in order to win the white vote.
Then, we started to hear his shift in his foreign policy positions toward the center. The centrists in the democratic party easily forget what Obama stood for just the day before and the left and anti-war activists are too deft to hear Obama’s move toward the center. And the blacks can’t get past the color of their skin to see that Hillary has a 96% rating by the NAACP, better than any other on the Hill including Obama.
Now that he’s the Dem nominee, he’s beginning to sound more like a GOP candidate.
This man is an impostor and a fraud. VOTERS BEWARE!

barack obama said ” I’ll meet john mccain anywhere, anytime.”
now he is afraid to do town hall meetings, instead of the 3 traditional debates that are a joke. I’m telling you guys, this guy is nothing once you take away the speech or teleprompter. I don’t know why so many people fall for it, its like voting for a bumper sticker.

When people just came out of a subprime scam, we don’t need sub-prime trust.. we need TRUTH. At least valid, consistent estimates.
I knew this camaigne would get ugly and looked forward to these gentlemen taking off the gloves instead of all this “yes we can” bs.

Not consern with flip flops that dont impact my family and myself. now flip flops on war-4,000+ lives lost many more wounded, gas prices, jobs, health care, environment people these are important issues that we care about. let the repukes continue brining issues off lapel pins, pastors, liberal, and who knows what else, common Fix News what else do you have?

You cannot entrust your new politics in an old politician, just as you cannot keep your new wine in an old wineskin.

Ray Jay,
I’m just pointing out more of Obama’s hypocrisy. While he woo’s the crowds with his talk of new politics, a different tone in Washiington, he authroizes his hack political operatives to try and destroy McCain. McCain is the only one with the actual EXPERIENCE of bringing both sides together to get things done. The record is clear. Obama has done NOTHING!

I hope that McCain comes to the realization that the majority of Independent voters do NOT trust John McCain’s word on just about ALL of our important issues in this campaign.

For someone who has changed their position on everything, Mc100yearsCain has some guts to call Obama. Let’s just say he is confused.
I will not even go through the reasons why McCain cannot be trusted either.
He wants to run on his “national security experience”. Gen wesley Clark has explained this very clearly, if you have been listening.
This talk of labelling Obama as a “radical tax and spend liberal” just don’t fly. How come the press never talk about McCain’s rich elitist background? I guess this only applies to Edwards.

Badger – “Mr. Arrogance”? I thought we were talking about Obama and McCain, not Bush? As for why Obama won’t debate McCain – why should he give that sad old man free advertising?

Ray Jay,
What exactly is that experience? 2 years in the Senate and….hmmm….where has he actually done what he purports to do as President? Who has he brought together? What has he actually done as a Senator? I guess that impressive work as a Chicago community organizer is all we need. Oh…I get it…the political climate is going to change just becuase King Barrack is now President. Yeah right.
McCain 08

This is all about wordsmithing … accuse the other guy of what you’re doing so he can’t bring it up.
Republicans are great at defining the box democrats have to fight in. That’s why democrats often lose.
I think Obama has shown he’s not going to let McCain get away with defining how this fight is going to be waged

anita rao
you can be very sarcastic I see. Well, I voted for Hillary, and now support McCain. Obama is way too dangerous a candidate!

Susie – yes, Obama taught Constitutional Law. Also, he has just as much experience as Lincoln did when he was elected. Sometimes we need a change.

After seeing Sen Hillary Clinton stand and speak along side Sen. Barack Obama at the rally in Unity, N.H. the other day, I became convinced that he would never choose her to be his running mate. NOT because she is not capable of being a great President, but simply because next to her, Barack realized how incredibly weak he looked. And is.

In June 1988 Michael Dukakis was leading George Bush by 15-18 points in all polls. Once people started looking at the candidates in the fall..well, we all know how that ended. The same case can be made for 4-5 different elections over the past 40 years. Summer polls mean nothing.
McCain will destroy Obama in November becuase America is filled with honest clear thinking citizens who know a fake when they see one.

McCain can be trusted to change his opinion to suit his audience.

I can tell who watches Fox and who doesn’t just by reading these post, McCain/Fox, the mis-information/lies byways and hiways. I have better things to do with my time, like donate even bigger to Obama and try to evolve to a higher understanding of the human race and wonder when we will stop the hate and get rid of our egos. That is one thing Obama requires when hiring someone, no drama, no ego’s that is why you do not hear all the screaming and name calling coming frpm his camp like McCains, Obama sticks to issues and only defends himself.

PS Anita I early voted in the North Carolina primary for Hillary at Bur-Mil park, 4 days before the NC primary. How convenient for you to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a liar. Hillary is experienced, tough, savvy, and does what she thinks is right. Based on his record, McCain shares some of these characteristics and is the next best candidate.

In June 1988 Michael Dukakis was leading George Bush by 15-18 points in all polls. Once people started looking at the candidates in the fall..well, we all know how that ended. The same case can be made for 4-5 different elections over the past 40 years. Summer polls mean nothing.
McCain will destroy Obama in November becuase America is filled with honest clear thinking citizens who know a fake when they see one.
Posted by: Jim | Jun 29, 2008 11:59:49 AM
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A few things you left out of the equation. The country wasn’t in this bad of shape then and the public didn’t hate republicans like they do now. Oh and Dukakis was not nearly as good a candidate as Barack Obama with as much money and strategic reach. But keep right on dreaming or is Obama causing you night terrors?

I’d vote for Bob Barr before i vote for McCain. I least i know Barr has been consistent on the issues especially, the war. The republican has not platform, the party is too intrusive and too far to the right. McCain used to be in the center now he’s positioning himself to the far ‘loony’ right.

Badger I really enjoy this lively debate. Truly. Emotions aside, most candidates who are behind wants more debates or “town halls”. Instead of focusing on pre-general rhetoric, focus on your candidate’s inability to inspire his base.

Around this time in 2004 Bush was leading Kerry.
The polls are more advance now then 40 years ago.
A poll four years ago from today stated Bush leading by 1 percentage point. Bush won the election by 2.4
Kerry never lead in Ohio, Missouri, Nevada, Virginia, Colorado, Hawaii, and Indiana equaling to 73 electoral votes
Kerry lost by 35.
These are states Obama will win. Also N.C., Iowa, and New Mexico.
I truly believe Obama will win in a landslide.

Sarah and Marnie: I agree with you! This election is about the issues, not the smear. Hillary’s views and policies are very closely parallel to Obama’s. John McCain is opposite to practically everything Hillary supported.
I voted for Hillary in the primary, and I was disappointed she didn’t win. That said, I’m not going to slap her in the face by voting against her ideals!
I’m supporting Obama not because of the man, but because his ideals are more in line with Hillary’s and mine.
I too am donating to Obama since he won the primary. Not so much at a time, but a little every paycheck.

Independent Josh,
Retire indeed. The man is old, and does not know what he is saying, nor does he know where he stands anymore.

Meri, because it’s more profitable to drill where there are large oil deposits.

Politicians, as ordinary people, have the right to change their mind and fine tune their strategies as time goes on. It’s up to us the voters to figure out which changes are sincere, and which pandering for votes. I believe McCain is not the honest one. Compare McCain flip flops on major issues of taxes, illegal aliens, energy policies,religious right,and torture. He doesn’t really have much to say about Trust & honesty.

Temagami – nice try, but McCain’s handpicked audiences aren’t a free and open forum – it’s an ambush and a publicity stunt. We already know that Repbulicans do not act in good faith and cannot be trusted. Why should Obama give the lame old man free publicity.

Those of you in love with the perfect Obama need to read the Boston Globe article about the terrible public housing in Chicago which was published on June 27th. Read up on that “change.”
Posted by: RMC | Jun 29, 2008 12:41:41 PM
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There is nothing you can throw up against Obama that will equal what republicans have done over just these past 8 years and get people to vote against Obama. Nothing, the republicans have bankrupt our treasury, trampled over our rights while subverting the constitution. That’s a pretty high bar and bridge too far to get people to reward that behavior with their votes. No Thanks!

Pepsiholic – our right to a writ of habeus corpus has been greatly diminished under the Bush administration. Where have you been? So much for you winning on “facts”! lol

I’m getting a chuckle at all these “we don’t know Obama” posts. If you don’t know anything about him, FIND OUT! There are plenty of places for you to find what you need to make an informed decision. But don’t sit here and tell us that there’s a lack of information. You just haven’t bothered to look at it.

Marnie, Wow! You take everything personally? I do not believe you, as an Obama supporter..not an individual, can sit there and dish out the hatred you have for republicans and not expect to have someone question your sanity for expecting democrats to deliver you from some false claim that Bush’s tax breaks did not benefit the middle class. I AM middle class and I DID get tax relief! I do NOT subscribe to some insane notion that because others are more wealthy than me, that I can expect to raid their bank accounts and not expect to see them to pass that pain on to consumers. Like it or not, business owners have a responsibility to their investors to earn a return on their investments. They pass along all tax infringements to you and me. THAT is what Obama wants for us and NO WAY am I going to vote for that!

What Hillary says now won’t change anyones mind about voting for John McCain. Too little too late. This election has turned into a complete joke. Obama can not make a decision by himself. Hillary is just trying to get her debt paid off. One using the other. It’s all a money thing now and popularity contest. We are in for a rude awakening if Obama is elected. Be careful, very careful who you vote for this November.

I would trust Obama over tax evading, cheating, double talking, flip flopping, wife dumping McBush on any issue.

Rumor has it that Barack uses a teleprompter at family gatherings for fear of insulting relatives.

Merri, still waiting on your reply on how YOU have had your right taken away. Care to elaborate? Why are you so quiet?

You Americans were stupid enough to vote Bush in twice and will probably be stupid enough to vote McCain in.
don’t you know your empire is falling? In the entire history of the world, no empire has been able to sustain itself when it spreads itself too thin militarily and monetarily. You guys are letting Republicans break your economy…problem is, Canada is going down with you because our economies are so closely tied. For your sake, and the rest of the world, I pray you are smart enough to vote the Republicans OUT!

McCain saying someone else’s word can not be trusted? This from the master of flip ‘n flop himself. Ya gotta love these Republicans. The voters don’t like their policies nor how they have run the country so McCain has turned to the Reeps favorite bag of tricks. Number one is to accuse their opponent of their own worst characteristics. Two, to lie about everything all the time. And three, to call names. That is all they have got. But, is it enough to win this election?

Merri: “It won’t matter, Barack Obama is gaining as many disaffected republicans as democrats he’s likely to lose. Barack Obama POTUS has a nice ring to it.”
You sound like overconfident democrats did in 2004. No way Bush would win!!!

Virginia:
“He claims the War on Terror is a mistake so he basically supports the complete failure to defend our nation.”
LIE
“He says the planet is in peril and claims to be able to control the weather.”
LIE

Ask the San Diego Property Tax Collector if John McCain can be trusted.

To GO4IT it would seem to me that there is quite a bit of contradiction post. You seem to be saying that your vote is determined by the issues and principle. So in the democratic primary that would mean that you took a careful look at the issues and determined that you agreed with the positions of Hillary Clinton. In the matter of principle you determined that her principles were the best, or for that matter using principle you decided to register as a Democrat.
I absolutely cannot understand how anyone who supported Hillary Clinton’s position on the issues can now be supporting John McCain. These two positions are miles apart. On taxes the are completely opposed to each other, on Iraq, they are completely opposed to each other, on the matter of supreme court judges they are miles, and miles, and miles apart. It now turns out that in the one area they might have been together, immigration, they are also far apart. Now in that matter of the right of women to choose McCain and Clinton are not even on the same planet.
I really am confused by this position of so many former Clinton that I wish someone can explain it to me.
I honestly am tempted to believe that there is some reason for this position that is not being mentioned, for the explanation of GO4IT just does not pass the smell test.

Kari,
You are right I am sorry. I retract the false statement about Obama controling the weather. Now that I think about this he does support the Green Revolution of reducing our dependence on foreign oil and cleaner environment. We do have one thing in common. Again I apologize.

Merri: “It won’t matter, Barack Obama is gaining as many disaffected republicans as democrats he’s likely to lose. Barack Obama POTUS has a nice ring to it.”
You sound like overconfident democrats did in 2004. No way Bush would win!!!
Posted by: Pepsiholic | Jun 29, 2008 1:42:02 PM
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The country wasn’t in this bad of shape then and the public didn’t hate republicans like they do now. Oh and Kerry was not nearly as good a candidate as Barack Obama with as much money and strategic reach. But keep right on dreaming or is Obama causing you night terrors? In other worlds there is nothing you can throw up against Obama that will equal what republicans have done over just these past 8 years and get people to vote against Obama. Nothing, the republicans have bankrupt our treasury, trampled over our rights while subverting the constitution. That’s a pretty high bar and bridge too far to get people to reward that behavior with their votes. No Thanks, offer declined!

belle -
Unfortunately, I think most elections are about how much you can get people to distrust your opponent by smearing him. That seems to be what America is all about these days.

Badger,
The only thing race about Obama is that he is biracial, and his ancestry is all over the place, and he would not give Nadar, the Republican benafactor, the satisfaction of “talking black”

Mr. Coffee – Let’s not talk about Wright. He’s not running for president.

The height of hypocricy – Obamites who blindly follow an empty suit stained with racism, have the audacity to call someone a racist who confronts them on it. Almost laughable, but too disgusting.
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Badger clearly you’ve stained yourself with racism. So should we ignore you? In any case, no matter how much you label Obama a racist it won’t work. Because he has exibited nothing but congenial, inclusive, respectful, behavior toward everyone even when they didn’t deserve it. That what I call a respectful person and true gentleman.

I would wait on the townhall meetings until I had the nomination officially.
John likes those because he won’t have tough questions.
Finally, McCain wants cheap coverage.

This reference by Badger and others to the reverend Wright matter is important. I agree that the excerpts we have heard are troubling. I do not think that it is a matter of racism, and Badger you sum it up correctly when you spoke about how fraudulent the whole matter of religion is. What is really sad is the fact that John McCain and his political party of right wing religious nuts have forced anyone running for the presidency to profess religion.
The John McCain who ran against George Bush had it right when he castigated Falwell and the others, but the McCain of today drank the Koolaid and is just as ban as all the rest.
My question to Badger therefore, is, How is Obama’s pastor Wright problem any different from the John McCain problem of kissing the Falwell ring(I could say posterior), and his complete kissing up to all of the religious nuts many of whom are as racist as you say Wright is?

McCain is desperate to get into the “townhall meeting” format because it is the only format he does well in. He probably proposed TEN of them because that would be fine with him, and if Obama suggested fewer he could accuse Obama of being “afraid.” McCain had better be careful here, because Obama does quite well in the townhall format. He doesn’t have much extra motivation to go there because his rallies are so effective, but I’m sure he will do at least one or two.

Here we Go!
In describing the reasons he believes the Republicans’ presumptive nominee for president would be better prepared than the Democrats’ to lead the nation next January, Sen. Joe Lieberman said that history shows the United States would likely face a terrorist attack in 2009.
“Our enemies will test the new president early,”
God we have to get these people out of office.

Unfortunately, John McCain has proven himself to either be experiencing horrific periods of memory loss over and over and over again, or he is just a pathological liar, or perhaps both. I would like to share with the world a video compilation of John McCain’s blatant lies or unfortunate recurring memory loss:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
Also, remember and research THE KEATING FIVE!

The world’s going to end in 2012 anyways, screw politics!

The lobbying firm of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis has been accused of acting in direct opposition to America’s foreign interests, according to the New York Times.
According to the article, Rick Davis’ company, Davis Manafort was working with pro-Russian interests in the Ukraine who have business ties to Iran.

Obama is so sleek with all of his words and deceptive in telling what is still to be known as truth. I understand why the public has ignored the lies of this so called liar and very untrue person called Obama! I cannot even begin to think of voting someone so deceiving as he ,for I want my son to see what this individual stands for and where we would end up with his misconceiving tactics and what is right and what is wrong!!!

Bill Good job parroting the RNC talking points.

Amen Sen. MCcain!!!

Annoy the media. Vote Obama, not the guy who supports 90+% of the Bush agenda.

If the diebold machines count all write in votes for Hillary as a vote for Obama..It’s a one line code and you’ll be sorry.
It’s important to cast a protest vote..we’ll have to live with it for 4 years..Obama wouldn’t be better than jmac anyway.

James – who cares about flag pins? Who would base their vote on something so trivial and silly? Get a life.

to James is sick: I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried. Your retort indicates that you don’t know who you are supporting, and prefer not to know your candidate. Here’s a link to another article with the story — With some luck, Hanuman-ji to adorn Oval Office. http://www.hindustantimes.com/ By the way, the Democrats Abroad will send 22 delegates to the DNC convention with 11 votes. The majority of Democrats Abroad plan to vote for Obama including the person who will bring the gold-plated idol to match the one that Obama carries as a good luck charm.

Badger keeps posting about that church, but people seem to be taking care of the “Hussein” thing themselves. This is hilarious!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/us/politics/29hussein.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1214768826-QsvP7bUfu/h7GOuNsWWQBg

Let’s dial back the hyperbole for just a second. McCain has flip-flopped on scores of issues since the primaries began and he’s reversing himself on a weekly basis now. Changing your position on an issue is NOT lying. Changing your mind is NOT lying. Hillary Clinton is the only contender caught actually LYING about established facts and she was caught more than once. Obama’s position changes are not only exceedingly rare compared with McCain’s constant spinning, but they are not lies. Is it a lie for McCain to characterize them as such?
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James: “McCain stands heads and shoulders above his DNC opponent by this measure of earning public trust.”
You’re kidding right?
McCain is now for the Bush tax cuts even though he said at the time that he “could not in good conscience” vote for them. What do you think happened to his good conscience?

Black democrats need to read why Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why+MLK+was+a+Republican&tp_preview=true

Let’s stay in Iraq for a hundred years. Wait I didn’t really mean a hundred years. Wait I did but I meant it differently than what I said. And no lobbyists in our campaigns. Yes there’s lobbyists in my campaign. Flippity floppity McCain trying to be ironic again.

At first, I thought I could see good things in Obama. I was wrong. Obama can not stand on any issues (War,NAFTA,Immigration etc…). He is the worst crooked politician, I have seen in American history. The man just talks. He is just a good talker. McCain is a crook too, but he still has some human dignity. Amazing, every 4 years American people send a crook to the White house and they call him Mr. President!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon‘s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation‘s first goals and timetables

it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965.

Anderson Cooper said last night about Obama: “Obumer”

Obama cannot be trusted. It’s fishy how this junior senator shot to political stardom. He’s a stooge of corporate interests and the DNC leadership.
McCain is a war hero with decades of experience and vetted. Easy choice this November.
McCain 08

The McCains have an adopted black daughter. Bridget McCain was a seriously ill baby in Mother Teresa’s orphanage when Cindy McCain visited and decided to bring her back to the United States for medical treatment in 1991. John and Cindy adopted her not long after. John McCain and his family will be good for the White House.

McCain is a double talking old man who thinks America should carry him all his life because he deserves it. This guy is a fraud. If not for his father the Navy Admiral, he would never had gotten into the Navel Academy since his grades were below average. As General Wesley Clark said…”I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and being shot down is a qualification to be President.” That from a military man much more qualified than McCain. Meanwhile this knucklehead Lieberman goes around saying he thinks that terrorist will attack the US in 2009. Another flunkie with his fear program again. Seems like McCain has all these flunkies trying to scare everyone into voting for McCain. McCain has been riding on his father’s hooks, and living off the taxpayers all his life. What does he know about what the average American goes through…NOTHING. He is a lying dishonest man who has no values and who would stoop to any level to get what he wants. Anybody who votes for this man either is very shallow themselves, or very ignorant. Not what America needs.

how anyone can vote for the traitor songbird johnny mac is beyond me. the guy gave up valuable information to the chinese and his own cellmates call him (to this day) The Songbird
he finished 364th out of 369 in his class (where he never would have gotten accepted if not for his dad, sound familiar?)

I honestly don’t see where a change of facts necessitating a change in action could be called distrustful.
The Repubs have a war chest of over $53 million. The Dems have $4 million. So if both McCain and Obama took the public money of $80 million each, that would leave the Dems with a total of $84 million vs. the Repubs with $135 million. Obama made the only choice that made sense, skip the public money paid with tax dollars and continue to rely on donations from ordinary Americans that have fueled his campaign thus far. Don’t we want a president that can see how budgets work? Don’t we want a president that can adjust to changing facts? This isn’t a flip-flop, this is facing reality. Obama having common sense is something that many career politicians aren’t familiar with, if the unbalanced budgets and extra-ordinary waste in the federal government are any indication.

John McCain, the man who voted against his own immigration bill and who has flip flopped on nearly every issue during his campaign is now questioning the trustworthiness of Obama? McCain has flip flopped so many times he has confused himself. Heck, he doesn’t even know the difference between a Shia and a Sunni and yet he claims to be an authority on the war in Iraq. And this is the best candidate the Republicans could offer? If you think things are bad now, and they are, just see how much worse it will get if McCain gets elected.

The Republican candidates seem to be distancing themselves from the GOP brand. The latest ploy is to refer to themselves as ‘Independents’, ‘Progressives’, or ‘Bipartisans’; and avoiding being called a ‘Republican’.
Interesting.

“Baracks talk to the nation after he is elected”
Baracks Bills -
1. 2006 Transparency bill = expose corrupt lobby $ that lobbyist give to politicians so we the people can either impeach them or not re-elect them
2. TECH PLAN = 2007 = http://www.USAspending.gov = expose all government spending so the citzens can see where their tax money goes
3. 2008 = SUNSHINE bill = SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION = http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/ = http://www.sunshineweek.org/sunshineweek/candidates = EXPOSE future spending. This is acomplished as Barack and his newly elected cabinet point out to WE THE PEOPLE , negative porkbarrel spending so we the people can rally against a certain senator or congress person or committee to stop it before it goes up for vote or support it if it is good for we the people = honest government finally controlled by WE THE PEOPLE. Who knows maybe one day in the future we won’t need politicians as we the people stay involved in what is going on in all 3 branches of government and we use the computer to approve the direction of our country / government.
Barack will be holding weekly / monthly speeches, to WE THE PEOPLE, guiding them as to which negative earmark / porkbarrel spending should be stopped (removed from a future bill) by the people rallying together online before a bill with that earmark goes up for vote!
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Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
Obama has outlined an ambitious transparency plan that incorporates technology to “help connect government to its citizens and engage citizens in a democracy.”
Among the proposals in Obama’s plan to open government are: putting government data online in accessible formats; airing live webcasts of agency meetings; restoring scientific integrity; allowing people to track federal grants, contracts, earmarks and lobbyist contacts online; and allowing five days for public to review and comment on legislation online before its signed.
In an October 2007 speech, Obama pledged to “turn the page on a growing empire of classified information, and restore the balance we’ve lost between the necessarily secret and the necessity of openness in a democratic society by creating a new National Declassification Center.”
Past is Prologue
One of Obama’s most visible Senate actions on the open government front was his co-sponsorship of the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2008 with the launch of USAspending.gov, a Web site that gives people access to information on government contracts, grants and other awards.
As an Illinois state senator, Obama co-sponsored the Verbatim Record Bill, requiring public agencies to video or audio record closed door meetings, The First Amendment Center reported, noting the law was the first of its kind enacted by any state.
Obama is the only remaining candidate to have signed the Reason Foundation’s Oath of Presidential Transparency, and, according to The Washington Post he is the only leading candidate to have released his income tax returns.
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What other aspects do you seek Barack to address to the nation?

((( “McCain has frequently mentioned his desire for the campaign with Obama to be ‘respectful,’ but has been ramping up more personal attacks on Obama in recent weeks.” )))
There you have it: John McCain’s word cannot be trusted.

Jake,
I think you and I agree on the substance here. I also would assume that you are irritated, just as I, that the 10.6% Medicare cuts will go into effect July 1 because the Republican Senate and Bush are pandering to Medicare Advantage programs. McCain chose not to vote and had he been a ‘maverick’ he would have sided with us, ordinary citizens and the Democrats and they could have reached cloture at 60 votes. He can put his money where his mouth is when they get cloture when Kennedy comes back and then try and override Bush’s upcoming veto.
Again, in generalities we agree. As for how the taxes break down, if you go to money cnn com, you can search for and they list the candidates tax proposals. Between $220k and $603k you’d pay about $12 more under Obama’s plan and $7871 less under McCain. If you are over $603k then you get a big stick and pay $115k more with Obama’s plan versus $45k less under McCain’s. And if you make over 2.9million, you’ll pay over $700k more under Obama and will save more than $250k under McCain.
Again, it’s really the upper 1% who are getting the stick and that’s if Obama’s plan is fully implemented (which is nearly impossible).

Yes SALLY and it was the Republican Party to which all the former racist Democrats turned after Brown vs the Board of Education. What you have to understand is that the GOP of today is not the GOP of Lincoln, or Eisenhower it is the GOP of Richard Nixon and his Southern strategy. It is the party of the Ku-Klux-Klan. The party of Jesse Helmns, of Strom Thurmond and countless others who changed their party affiliation from Democrat to Republican. The reason for that was that the Republicans gave them aid and comfort.
Abraham Lincoln if he returned today would have nothing to do with what the GOP is today.
John McCain should explain why he opposed the Martin Luther king day.

McCain is talking about trust. Here is the pot calling the kettle black- Interesting. I am truly upset w/ Obama of recent on the FISA issue and have fired lots of letters to his campaign, but I am not against him and he has just flip-flopped on a handful of issues -
As for John McCain, here is a list McCain flip-flops:
Here’s the full list (along with a bloggers closing commentary…
* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.
* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
Wait, I’m not done with the last two weeks yet….
* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
* McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.
And these come after these other reversals from April and May:
* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.
* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
And these are the flip-flops I’ve noticed earlier:
* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
* McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
* McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
* McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
Confronted with the inconsistencies in McCain’s record in March, the senator’s aides told the New York Times that the senator “has evolved rather than switched positions in his 25-year career.” That’s a perfectly sensible spin — when a politician holds one position, and then, for apparently political reasons, decides to embrace the polar opposite position, it’s only natural for his or her aides to say the politician’s position has “evolved.”
But in McCain’s case, the spin is wholly unfulfilling. First, McCain sells himself as a pol who never sways with the wind, and whose willingness to be consistent in the face of pressure is proof of his character. Second, Republicans have spent the last four years or so making policy reversals the single most serious political crime in presidential politics. The dreaded “flip-flop” is, according to the GOP, the latest cardinal sin for someone seeking national office.
And if we’re playing by Republican rules, McCain’s “evolutions” should be a fairly serious problem. I’m beginning to think they might be.

do most voters know Obama and what he stand for – - not really. There seems to be one thing after another, first no flag pins of flag salute, now a flag pin. In 2007 Obama is questioned on his negligence in providing support at Walter Reed Hospital, and now the media follows him on a visit to the VA hospital. His book tells about his mom, who was an atheist who became pregnant at 17yrs old to a older foreign student studying in Hawaii on a US grant. His father could not legally marry his mother because his father already had a wife in Kenya. He claims his mom needed to go on food stamps; but this occurred when his grandparents have good jobs as Bank VP and furniture store owner. He says he could never disown Rev Wright, and then does so based on voter polls during a lull in the primaries. He helped get government awards for his friends, including Rezko, and we discoverd that the community work performed is now questioned as below quality standards. Now it’s reported that his campaign representative agreed that Obama would like to have a monkey-god idol, which would match the one that Obama carries in his pocket as a good luck charm. http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68156
Posted by: James | Jun 29, 2008 3:05:34 PM
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I’m sure most everyone that lied us into war with Iraq wore a flag pin. so wearing one does not prove you’re a patriot. Next you saying his mother could not possibly be on food stamps if his grandparents had good jobs as v.p.? That a stupid remark given some famous, rich people have relatives that are not well off and need government assistance. You also say he carries a monkey idol around in his pocket. How do you know it’s not something a voter gave him for good luck or something? Moreover, Even if it is his carring it does not necessarily proves he believes in hindu religion. Many atheists and agnostics wear the cross for fashion. So wearing or carring something is not absolute truth.
Boy you’re a piece of work shilling for mccain, rove and the republicans.

Sally – Yes, the Republican Party used to to good things. That’s why it seesm so pathetic now.
When the segregationist Southern Democrats all switched to the Republicans after the Civil Rights Act, it was all downhill from there.

Yeah it is interesting, nearly all polls done in the countries of all of our allies overwhelmingly support Obama about 7 to 3…yet somehow the logic being proported here is that McCain is the best choice for foreign relations. How? How does that make any logical sense? McCain will come into office with 70% of the world already predisposed to dislike him…HOW does that put McCain in a better position? If anything a vote for McCain for foreign relations ability (which his main platform so it IS relevant) is about as ironic as you get!

Senator Obama’s Anti-Smear Army has been out in force this weekend. Unfortunately, they have been smearing Senator McCain and many bloggers who support him. But the Army has shown no proof that the postings were lies or distortions about Senator Obama. It is simply attack, attack, attack. It really is getting disgusting.

Martin – What is so “disgusting” about defending someone against smears? I have even defended McCain against smears, although obviously I am more focussed on Obama.
Was there a particular smear that you wanted us to challenge?

@martin,
You crack me – You just need to google the internet to find McCain flipping and flopping all over the place – The GOP and McCain have been smearing Obama all over the place, calling him a muslim, etc… DO YOU HAVE A PROOF FOR THEM??
More on the list of McCain flip-flops and lies here: http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html

In January in an interview in Business Week with Maria Bartiromo, Obama said only people making less than 75k would be getting tax relief. So I guess anyone making over that is rich and will see higher taxes, unless he has flipped flopped on that too. Anyone having mutual funds outside of a retirement account, will see an increased cap gains tax even if they don;t sell the mutual fund. That took a lot of peoples money during the tech bubble. Retirement accounts will be taxed at ordinary income which also will get s boost in taxes. Raising the cap is a mistake. Taking 6.2% more each out of business and people who make over 89k. Oil companies make an average of 8.5% profit.How about healthcare facilities? 48%. Publishing, periodicals, magazines is 34%. Information delivery services, 23%. Silver is 22%. Application software industry is 22%. Shipping, 21%. Well, not anymore. Copper is 19%. Tobacco products, 19%. Drug manufacturers, 17%. Insurance brokers, 16. Beverages, wineries, distilleries, 15%. Long distance carriers, 15.8%. I mean, railroads, railroads, 13.9%. Steel and iron, 13.8. Cigarettes, 13.7. Integrated circuits, semiconductors, 13.6. Money center banks, 10.8. Hotel/motels, 10.6. Asset management, 10.5. Beverage, Brewers, 10.5. Resorts and casinos, resorts and casinos are 10.5. Casinos are 10.5. Oil is 8.5. Hedge fund makes 81.7. So what is a windfall or do you just have to ask what Comrade Obama wants to tax? He also will not allow drilling of the coast where Cuba will be drilling, or in Anwr or allow rules to be developed for shale oil processing in 3 western states where we have 1.7 trillion barrels locked in rock. Democrats have defeated all the projects in the last 30 years resulting in lack of supply. Do all businesses have to be not-for-profit for the Demcrats.Obama is just another tax and spend liberal supported by MoveOn.org, DailyKos and George Soros. He has flipped on some many issues, he cannot be trusted.

Hmm…FDR, democrat and Truman, democrat saved the world, JFK stood up directly to the Soviets and saved us from nuclear war. Carter was the first to seriously take on the oil producing middle east and terrorists. Clinton, despite a hostile congress, worked it out and led the country through it’s most glorious years to date. The only notable Republican of the last 65 years is Reagan, and he is only notable for being a good actor and being the first to run up the national debt and defense spending to astronomical levels. Someone on here saw Nixon as great. He was a crimanal and participated in breaking and entering and burglarly, street level crime! Bush our current president, it has been noted, has broken our FISA laws which wasn’t necessary and usurped the authority of congress. Bush Sr didn’t finish the job in Iraq when we did have a full blown army already there and a good reason authorized by the UN to take it. I just don’t see it, where have the FDR, Truman, JFK, Clinton-equivelant republican presidents been?

Wonderful!!!!!!!!! Obama fans and McCain fans are competing “My crook is better than your crook”. For anyone who wants to look for someone you can trust. You don’t have to look very far. Look at your parents. What have you done for your parents lately?????

…said the guy who talks like a saint and votes like a devil on torture.

Truthsayer…not a young man myself, but I agree with you. This is not a job for a man of McCain’s age. You wouldn’t want a heart or brain surgeon operating on you at 76, four years from now, or even at 72 were he to become President in 2009. This is a job that requires a sharp, steady, and clear mind at all times, and an abundance of energy and abilities to meet the challenges ahead. Let’s not kid ourselves here, sure there are many good things people can do at his age, but being President of the United States is the most challenging and difficult job in the world. Not something to take so lightly.

Yeah, McCain claims to no beholden to special interests but yet he has had lobbyists running his campaign (which wasn’t even in the news until just last month). He doesn’t want to let Obama keep the small donations of millions of Americans, well of coarse not because those small donations have really added up! And meanwhile McCain will still be beholden to special interests because he get his money from his party and so he is beholden to the party and all of it’s special interests. If anything, Obama is beholden to the country itself as sensible republicans and independents have also contributed to his campaign. A much better choice for Obama and I don’t blame him a bit.

I have been listening to two governors who have spent the last ten minutes accusing the other’s candidate of flip-flopping.
How about if we quit using those words? If political candidates didn’t change their minds on issues from time to time, I would seriously question whether or not they are using their minds.
It is getting so tiresome!

There is little doubt that the paid mercenary army of professional bloggers that I have read Obama pays is out in full force today. Do you guys get a higher rate when you work the weekend?

You don’t need to raise taxes. You need to take the waste out of the budget. More money is not the answer. Congress needs to spend the money like it is their own. Obama will continue the waste, the pork and rewarding his backers, except the little backers. McCain is the only one that wants to take the waste out of government.
Posted by: jschmidt | Jun 29, 2008 6:18:54 PM
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McCain is a republican, they have recklessly spent money to the point of bankruptcy. And you want us to believe the big business, lobbyist backed mccain will change course? Keep dreaming.

Jake- privatizing Social Security may be the only way to save it. By law, SS money cannot be invested in the stock market, yet over the long term the stock market has returned more money than any other investment. Take a dollar into SS now, and next year it is worth 3% or so less. SS money needs to be invested and I recommend taking 1/2% of what is supposed to be in the fund and put in the market. I say supposed to be because all the SS money goes in the general revenue hole. Other than raising the cap and then not allowing people who pay on the raised cap to benefit from it, or reducing benefits, what are the choices? SS was never envisioned as a pension plan but as a safety net. But Obama has pledged to have a redistribution of wealth and he will take who he feels is rich and give to the poor. With the Democrats in power in Congress he can be a dictator and do what he wants. There will be no checks on his power if the Dems have 60 in the Senate and that will be very bad for the country. Obama will never abandon his left supporters of MoveOn, Daily Kos and George Soros. So he will rule from the left.

jschmidt, I hardly think a Republican can tell anyone how to not waste money. They shipped several billion dollars of cash money to Iraq, and POOF, it was gone. What kind of moron sends real cash to a war zone? We got ripped off, and it’s no thanks to McCain and the GOP. No one can give us a straight answer about where our tax dollars have gone. These Republican attacks are reminding people to question Republican’s integrity. When McCain makes statements like this, people start thinking about the past seven years of nothing but greed, corruption, stupidity and lies. It’s a long list, too. Are you sure you want to remind America what the GOP has been up to for seven years?

Merri- You have heard Obama only talk about spending more. He has talked about using the Iraq money he will not spend but we didn;t have that money in the first place. To Obama that is money to be spent. McCain is the only one that has not talked about raising taxes on people making over 75k as Obama wants to do. (In January in an interview in Business Week with Maria Bartiromo, Obama said only people making less than 75k would be getting tax relief. So I guess anyone making over that is rich and will see higher taxes). McCain has never supported pork projects. Obama has and has taken money from companies for legislation passed. McCain is the best person to hold back spending. Obama will bankrupt us.

bedy On the same note, your right wing disdain and your attempts to demean Obama through dirty politics is only hardening the votes of millions of people who will be voting for him come November.

Obama ‘lacks experience’? Look where all the ‘experience’ of the last 8 years has brought us.
It’s 1932 all over again folks, you have a chance to vote for another once in a generation leader and I’m not talking out the old guy who calls everyone friend (probably because he can’t remember their names)

Scotti:
…”Where have
the FDR, Truman, JFK, Clinton-equivelant republican presidents been?”
That was then.
This is the here and now!
THIS Democratic party is a travesty of it’s name!
They chose and bet on the wrong horse early on, refused to open their eyes, and now stand a good chance of losing the race!
Nothing niggled the DNC’s closed minds when it came to B O.
But this is not the time for the head of a senatorial committee who could never find the time to hold even one meeting….. not the time for a newby senator whose most enduring acts were his 130 calls of “present”… not the time for a man who talks out of both sides of his mouth and attracts questionable associates to him like a magnet… not the time for big plans and promises of change without income producing solutions to make them happen…
NOT the time for flowery words
NOT the time for B O!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!

Scotti:
…”Where have
the FDR, Truman, JFK, Clinton-equivelant republican presidents been?”
That was then.
This is the here and now!
THIS Democratic party is a travesty of it’s name!
They chose and bet on the wrong horse early on, refused to open their eyes, and now stand a good chance of losing the race!
Nothing niggled the DNC’s closed minds when it came to B O.
But this is not the time for the head of a senatorial committee who could never find the time to hold even one meeting….. not the time for a newby senator whose most enduring acts were his 130 calls of “present”… not the time for a man who talks out of both sides of his mouth and attracts questionable associates to him like a magnet… not the time for big plans and promises of change without income producing solutions to make them happen…
NOT the time for flowery words
NOT the time for B O!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!
Posted by: Questioner | Jun 29, 2008 7:23:03 PM
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You’ve gotta be blind not to see the republicans are a zillion times worst with no hope for improvement.

Neither one of these guys is a good choice, that’s the sad thing. Rehashing the same crap over and over, nothing changes.

McCain wants to debate Obama? He’s too busy debating himself on most issues. How will he find the time? We know he won’t “work” on weekends.

annoyingrabbit -
If you have evidence for anything illegal Obama has done, it should be in court. Otherwise, we can assume you are just making stuff up as usual.

What do you expect? Obama is a bigoted closet Muslim who not so deep down hates America, whites, and Jews.
OBAMA 2008, the ULTIMATE SNOW JOB!

Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has accepted $54,350 from members of a law firm that in 2006 lobbied him to introduce a tax provision for a Japanese drug company with operations in Illinois, according to public records and interviews. The government estimates the provision, which became law in December 2006, will cost the treasury $800,000. Obama touts his refusal to take donations from Washington lobbyists though he accepts money from their co-workers who are not registered to lobby. Speaking after the Feb. 12 primary, he decried a “Washington game” where “lobbyists write check after check and Exxon makes record profits.” In May 2006, after the finance committee invited senators to put forward tariff suspension proposals, Obama introduced a bill requested by Astellas Pharma, which was seeking a break on an ingredient it imports from Switzerland.
Astellas employed two lobbyists with the Chicago firm of Katten Muchin Rosenman, Senate records show. Another Katten lawyer had helped the senator set up a blind trust in 2005, campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said.
The two lobbyists have not contributed to Obama. But their law partners and associates at Katten gave $77,000 to his campaigns since 1999, according to the non-partisan CQ Moneyline.
I’m sure Obama’s supporters will excuse this. McCain does not take this type of action, money for legislation.

annoyingrabbit – so you’re okay with McCain being a puppet of the same Republican special interest groups who control Bush now? No thanks.

Ranger Richard- I think you better examine your candidate more closely. Obama will say anything to get elected. McCain has admitted Keating 5 was not his best hour and he regrets it. But that is the only scandal he has been involved in. Obama has been in office about 144 days. No experience, no bills, no meetings as chair of the committee on Afganhistan. Last I looked Rick, everyone had a right to blog their own opinion. But it seems you as an Obama supporter can’t handle the truth that Obama is not the man for the job.

Join the millions of military families united to stop the traitor johnny “the songbird” mccain
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

HuffPost’s dollar2donut:
“his wife fights five years to get him out of that hell-hole in Vietnam. She gets in a car accident and is disabled…he returns, cheats on her with Cindy, then leaves his wife and marries Cindy one month later so she can finance his poiltical career. Yeah, that’s the kind of man you can trust all right!”
A man who leaves his wife for another woman in time of adversity has no backbone as a man, not to talk of shame and integrity.
This is your straight talk express?

Is this the same John McCain, respected POW whose arms are out of shape from the torture he endured in Vietnam, who fought against Bush & Co’s torture methods, then caved in??
A Democrat again, since “we” invaded Iraq, I actually wrote him about 3 years ago, asking him to run for president. That’s when he was still a maverick with high ideals. Not any more.
He should stay out of the blame game.

All those that think McCain’s policy on Iraq is right should shut the hell up and go enlist and die in Iraq instead of sending other people’s children to die there. No…not my me, better to send your familly to die there so that the special interest can be served from this damn war that not even a war. It’s all about oil and the special interest that McCain is aligned with. He is nothing but an opportunist who has lived off TAXPAYER MONEY all his life with special favors because his daddy was an Admiral. WHAT REAL JOB HAS HE EVER HAD??? NONE. He’s a sleeze bucket that preys on the likes of scared and misinformed people like these jackasses here that support him. He’s the pimp and you are his prostitutes. I have no respect for these damn idiots that wear blindfolds or are incredibly stupid and naive believing this old man’s BS.

McCain is right you can’t trust Obama. Question who would you rather have protect your children Obama or McCain? No choice is there?

What’s funny about McCain is that even Republicans don’t really like him. They had the chance to nominate him in 2000 and didn’t and now they’re trying to push their sloppy seconds on us like it was good deal. No way!

Annoyingrabbit, you made me read a whole bunch of junk and yet did not read anything incriminating about Obama. just false smears. Try harder.

You cannot entrust your new politics in an old politician, just as you cannot keep your new wine in an old wineskin. be assured of its integrity?
McCain is full of the usual Washington experience; why do we expect that, now, he would lead in a new direction?
And, is this not the McCain, whose own wife dearest would not let him anywhere near their household economy without a prenup, who now wants to be entrusted with what is about the largest economy in the world?

Posted by: hopesprings52 | Jun 28, 2008 11:04:57 PM and stated in part “Since Obama has very little record to go on, the integrity of his word is of critical importance”
By those standards then you are saying that since McCain ahs so many years i nthe Senate, that he can flip-flop all he wants (which he is doing), and that’s OK.
That don’t make no sense.
McCain reminds me of the old fogies who used to run companies at the beginning of the IT revolution and who wouldn’t embrace the new computer technology. Those companies ended up going under.
The country needs new and young blood. Someone who understands tha twe are in the 21st century and not in the 19th or 20th as McCain seems to think.

Jake- I think you should stop your BS about McCain unless you can prove it.
Justmenan- I guess we should take a college student and put him in as the CEO of the company. After all he has the board and all his direct reports to make the decision? Did you actually read what you wrote?
Yes Obama is like a college student looking for a job. 144 says of Senate experience and nothing else. Wow- impressive.

As for McCain’s flip-flops, he has changed position on oil drilling and Bush’s tax cuts for TAXPAYERS because of the current economic situations. McCain is right that we need to severely lessen our dependance on foreign oil while developing other technologies to keep us progressive and independent from foreign energy markets.
As to the tax cuts, McCain is aware that asking these taxpayers from all brackets to pay past level of taxes would hurt this country’s economy worse than it is hurting right now.
They are legitimate changes of position. The examples of Obama changing views on the 2nd ammendment, NAFTA, and immigration reform are true examples of flip-flops. He says different things to different groups he talks with. This is a typical politician move. If you have no record or not true opinion, then you can’t be labled anyway, hence all the present votes in Chicago.
McCain has his problems with me but he is far better and far more trustworthy than Obama
I thought Obama might have been the one to unite the country but then I have watched how he campaigns with Hillary and now McCain. He cries race with every criticism and yet levels unfair attacks with anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
Change for the worse is not something this country needs.

Brian Maslow- You may remember that McCain was one of the highest ranked prisoners and was tortured. I’m sure there were others who didn;t break but, were they tortured to the extent McCain was? Did they give up early release because no one else was being released? I think you better check the real record.

And which Republican nominee said this — McMaverick or McBush? Seems that if anyone cannot be trusted to keep their word, it’s John McSame, who tells one story on immigration reform to Latinos, while selling them out to his Neocon Cronies.
That’s just one example. There are soooo many more!
If John McBush wants to make this a war on who can be trusted, Bring It On!!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Then the character he is…is to lie. Please enough of his experience in Viet Nam. There are plenty of POWs and Viet Nam vets with even more severe injuries than McCain. It didn’t give them a free pass in life, nor should it give one to McCain. But then again, he does has a free pass…his 100% disability pension while others got much less with far more injuries. And the nerve of it all is that he can “work” as a Senator and get a 100% disability pension. I always thought the definition of a person being disabled is that he cannot work. Did that meaning get twisted? But what’s worse is that he has no shame taking that pension and still working. Some integrity and character.

collegemom – you’ve got to be joking. “In this global era” we don’t need a cold war fossil who doesn’t even know how to use a computer. Get real. Besides the only foreign policy experience McCain has is dropping bombs on people. Hell, even the Republicans don’t like this guy – he’s their sloppy seconds after Bush. Face it, the GOP knows it’s going to lose in November and they’ve put McSame up as their sacrificial lamb. Poor old bastard won’t know what hit him.

When I was in college, I was a Democrat. A couple of years after college, I registered to vote as a Republican. Today, I’m an independent. Young men, when you get older you become wiser. Your uncle is different, it’s not because he is old if you know what I means.

Old man McBush is clearly grasping at straws. He cannot shake off Bush and that is only one of his worries in the upcoming election. When you don’t have a message, all you can do is attack your opponent. Touche.

Right now McCain is a flip flopper. After November 4 he will just be a flop. Being number two in an election is still much better than being ranked 884 in a class of 889. I find it rather interesting that he’s only 9 or 10 points ahead on Obama in Arizona in the most recent polls.

Jschmidt,
What exactly is the point you are making. Is it your contention that you can prove all of the negative stuff you have posted but that the negative stuff about McCain is unproven. Let me take a case in point, You accuse Senator Dodd of doing something wrong with respect to his mortgage. Now Dodd said that he was unaware that he was getting a particularly good deal. You seem to find this to be a horrendous act. Note that to date no one has accused Dodd of any quid pro quo type activity. Moreover Country Wide the lender in question has not been bailed out or anything like that by congress.
Now what even baffles me more is your attempt to somehow make a case that the Democrats are corrupt and you provide a list. Do you not feel obligated to compare that list against the Republican list. This whole exercise is silly. It is kind of like being a little bit pregnant.
So here now is the dispassionate truth. We gave the Republicans a chance to show what they could do. How well they could govern. We gave them control of both houses of congress from the middle of Bill Clinton’s first term right up through the lst two years of George Bush’s last two years of his second term. That amounts to some 13 or so years and what do we have to show for it. As things stand today they have failed, that is simple. I was a part of giving them that time. They have been proven to be corrupt and rotten to the core.
The bottom line is that IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. This time around I am voting straight Democrat, I will vote for a dog if it is on the Democrat line. JSCHMIDT you and all other Republicans have betrayed the trust I placed in you. It is that simple.

neither candidate can be trusted–experience will be the winning factor in the end!
Posted by: william pappas | Jun 29, 2008 9:23:06 PM
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People want the experience of change and they don’t want to continue to experience bush thru mccain.
Obama 08

Merri- what ‘change’? I heard a lot of that and what is the ‘change’? Obama is just another tax and spend liberal but one with no experience. He has bad associates, and flips on every stand. He’s taken money when he says he hasn;t. I see no ‘change’!!!

I read roxy’s post already. Not much can be confirmed there. However at least he has a history. Obama has none. All I know is McCain has done lot’s of good for this country. Obama. Not so much. Can you at least admit that a flip flop is the same as changing your mind about a topic? I do know that I change my mind on many things in my life when I A. either learned a lesson or B. Were presented with a compelling argument that made me look twice at my position. It’s called being intellegent and know who you are as a person.

General Wesley Clark:
“Well, I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.”

Betrayed- Republicans had control of congress for maybe 6 years and never the 60 votes on the senate. Do the Dems did what the Republicans have done to prevent runaway legislation by the leading party. The Democratic bloggers here are hypocrites when they talk only about Republcian corruption, I noted many Democrats and admit both sides have had corrupt politicians. You had change when Bush came in. Did you like it? No because he governed from the extreme right wing. Obama will govern from the far left wing and if the Dems get 60 votes in the Senate, the nation will be far worse for it. McCain has proven and will govern from the center which is what this country needs. We do not need another extreme in charge. I submit Obama supporters are blind to Obama’s faults and he has plenty. McCain’s record of faults is open for discussion. His accomplishments are numerous. But Obama supporters at least in this blog are nasty and hateful. They actually sound like the worst of the Republicans back in 04. Take that compliment.

JSchmidt, that Tax and spend thing is old hat. You Republicans really need to “run something new”. You have, according to you, not taxed and spent, you have had total control of monetary policy, and taxation for 7 years and partial control for 6 yet we are in bigger trouble than ever in my life time(61 I am now).
Now you want us to put an old coot in powere who says that he knows nothing about economic policy.
The Republican party is too corrupt and John McCain is too old. The two of them together in power is a recipe for disaster.

Let’s face it, pickins are slim this year for President, I cannot believe as big as this country is, this is the 2 we have to choose from…….

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE!
The world is going to end in 2012 anyways and both candidates suck horribly, so why are we wasting so much time over this? It’s not worth it. Actually none of these posts are worth it [including this one].
Just do what you personally can to make the world a better place. Quit relying on shady politics to do it for you!

Betrayed- thanks for proving that Obama supporters are nasty and hateful as I said.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/mccain/articles/2007/03/01/20070301mccainbio-chapter5.html
About McCains wife Carol:
Carol, his wife, had been in a disfiguring traffic accident in 1969, a development that McCain first heard about from an officer’s offhand remark.
Like her husband, Carol was enduring a painful episode. On an icy Christmas Eve, she lost control of her car and crashed into a telephone pole. Authorities found her thrown from the wreckage, in shock and with serious injuries. Her legs were crunched, her arm and pelvis smashed and internal organs were bleeding. She almost died, and doctors discussed amputating her legs. It took months of operations, physical therapy and convalescence before Carol could walk without crutches.
“You might be upset when you see me,” Carol warned him from Jacksonville in their first post-release telephone conversation.
McCain reassured her: “Well, you know, I don’t look so good myself. It’s fine.”
According to McCain’s account of Carol’s recovery in Faith of My Fathers, she lost 4 inches off her height as a result of the accident and the related medical procedures.
In the book, McCain praised Carol’s “determined spirit” and refusal to succumb to “despair and self-pity.”
McCain was eager to get home to Carol and the children. His daughter Sidney was just a baby when McCain departed for Vietnam. She didn’t remember him.
“To her I had become an object of curiosity, a man in a photograph whom her mother and brothers talked about a lot,” McCain wrote.
He had no idea what Sidney or her older brothers now looked like. He had gotten little word on their growth while in the prison camp.
By St. Patrick’s Day 1973 he was back in Florida.
“If there was one couple that deserved to make it, it was John and Carol McCain,” author Robert Timberg wrote in John McCain: An American Odyssey. “They endured nearly six years of unspeakable trauma with courage and grace. In the end it was not enough. They won the war but lost the peace.”
In February 1980, less than a year after he met Cindy, McCain petitioned a Florida court to dissolve his marriage to Carol, calling the union “irretrievably broken.”
In his book Worth the Fighting For, McCain offers his own post-mortem on his failed marriage. He “had not shown the same determination to rebuild (his) personal life” as he had to excel in his naval career.
“Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite,” McCain wrote. “But my marriage’s collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine.”
Carol, who remains on good terms with her former husband, generally has avoided reporters interested in hearing her side of the story.
She did briefly address her divorce to Timberg: “The breakup of our marriage was not caused by my accident or Vietnam or any of those things. I don’t know that it might not have happened if John had never been gone. I attribute it more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than I do to anything else.”
In the divorce settlement, McCain was generous with Carol, the mother of their daughter Sidney and two sons, whom McCain had adopted. Among other things, McCain gave Carol the rights to houses in Florida and Virginia and agreed to provide insurance or pay for additional treatment she was expected to require.
Except for signing the property settlement, Carol did not participate in the divorce. A court summons and other paperwork sent to her during the proceeding went unanswered.
In April 1980, the judge entered a default judgment and declared the marriage dissolved.
Carol went her separate way, finding work as a personal aide to Nancy Reagan during the 1980 presidential primary campaign and later running the White House Visitors Office.
He had not met his current wife until 1979.
If Obama supporters would like to take about McCains first wife- at least get your facts straight. McCain has discussed this openly- nothing to hide.

Vanessa…Obama is the biggest flip-flopper of all! But, there are many other issues that bother me a lot more about Obama.
http://www.theobamafile.com/

SCREWPOLITICS,
With one of these 2 yahoo’s in office it will be sooner than that!

Carolyn K…Obama is the one that throws everybody under the bus. You are a paid Obama blogger trying to turn Obama’s BS to McCain like they did with Hillary. It won’t work. I hate Obama. I know way too much about him.

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How low will McSame go?
Watch the rovian slime flow!
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carolyn:
Checked out the website you posted. Its a Republican Right Wing smear website pandering half truths and false accusations to defeat Obama. Amazing you would even want to be associated with such a source.
Since you know the candidates so well, who is Charles Keating?

The issue over campaign contributions isn’t about money, its about the American people who are so desperate for change that they will open their wallets and finance a candidate who is sworn to bring about that change — what McCain fears is that the amount of contributions reflects the disgust with more Republican politics and Republican politicians. This campaign has many different fronts that prevent a black or white (no pun intended) approach to finance. The Swift Boat Liars for Truth boys are even now retooling for their mischief. The Southern Baptist Convention is even now mobilizing their 18 million membership, taking control of their minds so that hard working men and women will vote against their best economic interest and continue the spiral downward that the Republicans are impotent to stop. Obama has to have the funds to deal with these strange perversion of our electorial process. This is probably the last change we will have to save this country. I am voting for Obama.

omentum…Why would anybody care what McCain and his ex-wife’s relationship was or what his current might be now? I
want a safe country to live in. I don’t want to pay high taxes. I love Amrica and I want a President and a frst lady that loves her too. That would not be Obama and Michelle. It’s that simple.

My Dear Dear Friends, McCain has repeatedly called for a respectful debate about substance and issues. So he attacks Senator Obama with these kinds of remarks. Now who is the one whose “words can not be trusted” ?
No one is tricked by McCains thinly veiled anger hiding behind his labored and hushed talking, or his badly delivered hateful punchlines. He sounds like he is reading the end to a fairy tale to children as they fall asleep, but guess what, this time no one is sleeping! And guess what else, everyone knows that what he is saying is a Fariy Tale

omentum…Why would anybody care what McCain and his ex-wife’s relationship was or what his current might be now? I
want a safe country to live in. I don’t want to pay high taxes. I love Amrica and I want a President and a frst lady that loves her too. That would not be Obama and Michelle. It’s that simple.
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Do you care that mccain called his wife cindy a C**T?

To annoyingrabbit, you are just blabbing, anyone who has examined Senator Obama’s website and read in depth his plan for the entire array of ideas he has including education etc. would be blown aaway at how specific he is. Do yourself a favor rabbit and compare his to McCains and then come back here and change your post!

Oh so I am mean and hateful because I state that John is too old to be running for the presidency.
What is hateful about that. It is my opinion. I am a an older American male also and I am also too old to be running for the presidency. I sure as hell do not hate myself.
You people just seem to feel that you are entitled to everything. Did you see all of the realy mean and nasty stuff posted here about Obama. You accused him of taking money from people and then doing favors for them. One of you here associated him with some Monkey God, and we all know the racial connotations of that. You Republicans are selling a sock puppet with the form of a monkey and calling it Obama.
Go back and read some of what has been said about Obama and then come back and tell me about hateful.
I do not hate John McCain. In fact there was a time when I was perhaps his biggest fan but he has changed his positions, and that is a fact. Is it hateful for me to say that. I also happen to think that no one over the age of 65 should be running for the presidency. That is true regardless of party affiliation.
Imagine someone who supports the GOP and Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, and all the others, calling anyone hateful. The party that used race baiting to defeat Harold Ford. Remember that.

oh please, is this all mccain can come up with?… first of all he’s jealous that obama has gotten millions of dollars of support from regular folks, while mccain continues to kiss butt with every oil corporate criminal lobbyist for money… and as far as debates and town hall meetings, obama will define his schedule, not mccain

Bea – That quote is false. That is NOT what he said. In fact, the real quote was one of the most poignant passages in the book. If I ever see you post that quote again, I will be justified in calling you a liar.

Merri – Where is that McCain quote from? That’s a great one because it is the eaxct form of the one they keep bringing up on Michelle. If we interpret hers as anti-American, we would have to do the same with his.

Dennis….Obama is a compulsive liar. How many times does he have to lie to you for you to catch on? His website is meaningless—his history is what an intelligent person would choose to gage him. He is a corrupt politician, yeah he wants to grow the government but it will cost the taxpayers especially the middle class massive amounts in taxes so his friends can scam like Rezko money from taxpayers. This is who and what Obama is. BTW, before you try to delude yourself and others, Obama has already said “special” groups and people you know like the ones donating money to him will be exempted from the tax increases—the rest of us campers will be paying out the nose. Obama means higher taxes plain and simple.
Posted by: annoyingrabbit | Jun 29, 2008 11:08:54 PM
Fact is Obama’s word cannot now be trusted on anything. He’ll do whatever he wants. He can just as easily reverse his position on Reverend Wright. He’s a man without integrity not deserving of the Presidency. I’m not saying this because I like McCain.
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Obama, the architect of BitterGate!!!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Jun 29, 2008 11:11:24 PM
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You two are gonna have bitter prune faces when Obama becomes POTUS. Get ready it’s gonna happen. Ha ha he he

There’s absolutely nothing about BHO that looks or sounds presidential.What’s going on here?

Merri – Where is that McCain quote from? That’s a great one because it is the eaxct form of the one they keep bringing up on Michelle. If we interpret hers as anti-American, we would have to do the same with his.
Posted by: jock59801 | Jun 29, 2008 11:15:51 PM
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This was played on Verdict with Dam Abrahms 6/26/08 Thursday on msnbc. He showed Mccain saying that on two different occasions. Maybe it’s on their transcript?

rodney, what post were you replying to? What happened to it?

That’s Dan Abrams, not Dam Abrahms. Tho I’m sure mccain supporters are saying DAM Abrams. Ha ha he he

Betrayed- you said” You accused him of taking money from people and then doing favors for them. ”
Check out the ABC article:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4344115&page=2
I don’t make this up like Obama supporters do!
What was hateful was your quote below:
Now you want us to put an old coot in powere who says that he knows nothing about economic policy.
The old coot you are referring to endured significant danger and torture for his country. He has experience and character which is more than Obama has.

J
We know that is what he meant. That is the whole point. You can take a line like that from someone out of context (and he has used that exact line at least 3 times over the years).
It is not fair when people do it to McCain, and it is not fair when people do it to Michelle.

Eldwood
the only thing you left out is the the chant
WHITE POWER

OK I admit I was flame baiting with that one :) You guys are so funny.

had an affair and threw his first wife under the bus. then he disgraced his present wife. The keating scandal… which dashed the pension of thousands of families….
ok thats enough
OBAMA 08

I have an idea. Let’s all have a contest for how many lies and personal attacks we can get people to believe about our opponent, and this will be the way we choose the next President of the United States of America.
God Bless America!

Obama can’t be trusted.
obama lies on family and friends and what he has done and not done, are vast and he keeps them coming.
You can’t trust a liar.
Obama changes his mind about what he believes in every couple days.
Obama Does not make a stand on anything,
Obamas history of voting is not to get involved or make a stand. So he votes present when he shows up. or just does not vote at all.
If obamas can lie to you, he does not care about you.
If obama changes his mind over things he says are important, then he has a problem with Judgment.
obamas friends show he likes to hang with the wild crowd the non conformers, the ones that defy authority. The kind of people you would not associated with or want your kids to associate with, or live in your neighborhood. Terrorist, criminals and radical haters. People he chose to be his best friends for over 20 years.
obama is not trustworthy, Dependable or reliable and something not to believe in, Change brought about by him would not be good change.
Do we want the youth of America to look up to and want to be like Obama?
Take drugs for fun, hang with radical people, smoke, lie and misrepresent themselves, use people because he wants to be popular.
No thank you, no kids should be exposed to that as a role model. Adults should not be exposed to that. Our country should not be put in hands like that.
No obama

seah
You are right. You can’t trust a liar. So I’m not about to trust you on any of that crap, am I?

Let us be real and imparcial, Sen Obama is the one who has attacked viciously Mr McCain.I believe is time for Mc Cain to take his gloves off and duke it out to end. McCain is not an mirroe image of Bush as the Obama campaing want to portray him and obviously because that IS THE ONLY THING OBAMA CAN COME WITH against a great american,a true patriot and man of honor.CHANGE ? What change ?? More taxes ? , More goverment intrusion on our lifes?? More bureocracy ??, No sir, I’m not gettin into that boat. If we want cahnge , How about changeing ourselves ? Get rid of that un needed piece of gas guzler and so many cars per household ?.Obama will serve the special interests masters that are paying for his campaing. He has been riding a free easy media. Where is his experience? How many bills has he has introduduced and passed thru the Senate ?? The tale is clear, Obama has a lot of talk but no substance and you FOOLS are falling for it. Good luck and I’m sure you will be ashame of yourselves if he gets elected. Mc Cain 08 , A true American , a Real Hero a man to trust.

Posted by: jock59801
Was she ever in that situation? NO. That women has succeeded in this great country and she should be thankful. Yes, there is a difference.

annoyingrabbit
Bush already threw away that amount of money on Iraq, so what’s your point? Looks like McCain will keep the same amount going to Iraq indefinitely.
I’d rather have the money be used to help starving people in Africa, than to kill people in Iraq who in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So, when exactly telling the truth is an issue. Obama clearly lacks credibility. He has as much credibility as Saddam Hussein has regarding disclosing his nuke plans to the UN Inspectors.
Obama is a liar. He lied about his associations with Rev. Wright, Tony Rezko and William Ayers.

My God, people. Listen to yourselves.
Is this who we are? Is this what America has become? Cut-throat, lying, and just plain mean? We’re dredging up the bottom-feeders now I guess.
I really WAS proud of my country at one time.

mcCain can’t be trusted.
mccain lies on family and friends and what he has done and not done, are vast and he keeps them coming.
You can’t trust a liar.
mccain changes his mind about what he believes in every couple days.
mccain make a stand on everything then he flip flops,
mccain’s history of voting is not where he stands today. So he votes one way then changes his beliefs to win votes.
If mccain can cheat on his wife and lie to you, he does not care about you.
If mccain changes his mind over things he says are important, then he has a problem with Judgment.
mccain’s lobbyist friends show he likes to hang with a crowd that cares nothing about average americans. The kind of people you would not associated with or want your kids to associate with. Terrorist provoking criminals and radical haters of the constitution. People he chose to be his best friends for over 20 years.
mccain is not trustworthy, Dependable or reliable and something not to believe in, Change brought about by him would not be good change.
Do we want the youth of America to look up to and want to be like mccain?
Cheat on his wife, call her a c**t for fun, hang with radical people, lie and misrepresent themselves, use people because he wants to be president.
No thank you, no kids should be exposed to that as a role model. Adults should not be exposed to that. Our country should not be put in hands like that.
No mccain

McCain is very confused. Who could blame him considering he is another Goose Stepping Kool-Aid drinking GOP lemming who is a Bush Clone. Remember that McCain is a Manchurian Candidate who has been groomed by his commie handlers to do everything possible to damage this country. His other wife got wised and was dumped into a a psych ward for awhile. Even is current wife – Cindy – was exposed to the truth and her drug problem was based on a pain management issue instead of the truth.

annoying rabbit
If Republicans were ever going to help those “working families here having trouble putting food on the table,” then you might have a point. But the Republicans don’t to help ANYONE, just so they don’t run the risk of accidently helping someone who doesn’t “really” deserve it.

My God, people. Listen to yourselves.
Is this who we are? Is this what America has become? Cut-throat, lying, and just plain mean? We’re dredging up the bottom-feeders now I guess.
I really WAS proud of my country at one time.
Posted by: jock59801 | Jun 30, 2008 12:27:44 AM

Cass
Good point.
(I’m not all that sure about some of my neighbors, though. They could be in there typing away on these blogs!)
Anyway, that reminds me to go bring my flag in and try to remind myself why I really DO still love this country.

jock59801, Obama is changing his stand on every issue from left to right. Do you know what he stands for? Can any one trust this guy?
Bush claimed that he delegates and he said the same thing. That he will surround himself with smart people. Look where it got us.
Obama is wrong for America.

Obama can’t be trusted.
His “words… just words” are lies are vast and he keeps them coming.
We cannot trust a liar.
B O changes his mind about his beliefs every couple days.
He is a hip-hop flip flopper!
His history of voting inbcludes one of the largest counts of “present” for any newbie senator because he can’t corral his beliefs and make them stick!
If mccain can cheat on his wife and lie to you, he does not care about you.
Should B O change his mind over things he says are important, then he chosses unwisely… difficulty with judgement calls when determined by anything other than getting votes!
His unsavory associates show he likes to hang with a crowd which cares nothing about the American people.
They are not the kind of people you would want your family to be associated with.
Terrorists, provoking criminals and radical haters of the constitution are the people he has chosen to be his best friends for over 20 years.
Obama is not trustworthy,dependable or reliable and should be considered questionable.
Change brought about by him would not be good change.
Do we want the youth of America to look up to and want to be like B O…or
like the American hero and statesman,
JOHN MCCAIN!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!

Look like McCain will lose this election to a crooked politician like Obama. Clearly, McCain is a lousy politician.

If Republicans were ever going to help those “working families here having trouble putting food on the table,” then you might have a point. But the Republicans don’t to help ANYONE, just so they don’t run the risk of accidently helping someone who doesn’t “really” deserve it.
Jock, most working families don’t want help—-they want a fair chance to support and take care of themselves. You are obviously of the gimme mind set. Obamas taxing ways is not fair or helpful but blantantly destructive. Obama should keep his hands to himself and stop reaching into working families and small business pockets to steal their their paychecks that they worked for. Obama needs to go is nothing but a tax and spend crook.
Posted by: annoyingrabbit | Jun 30, 2008 12:55:22 AM
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Most people want a government that is working for their benefit not just big business. However, bush and the republicans have made it clear that big business not people are their only concern. Bush and the republicans believe in taking from the poor and giving to the rich. Average americans are hurting badly under the weight of the republicans upside down reverse robin hood economic model. Things will change after the 08 election.

“Obama the Tax Terrorist”
What do you the patriotic McCain voter and Dem. against Obama?

What do you think about this name for him? “Obama the Tax Terrorist”
This is what I was asking before I hit the wrong key.
Posted by: LJ | Jun 30, 2008 1:43:22 AM
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Huh, what about the undone flip flop leprechaun as a name for mccain?

Thanks, that means it’s okay. So Mccain the undone flip flop leprechaun it is.

What really bothers me about Obama and the Liberals is their Paternalist views of the relationship between our Government and its citizens. In their view, they know the proper path for us and they demand the govt enforce it. Of course, we all know…the govt is the least efficient organization known to man. Voters…are you going to turn your life over to any govt??

Pretty soon all of America will see how phony Obama and the DNC really are.
McCain/Guiliani ’08

Obama FLIP FLOPS
Rev. Wright
Trinity church
Nafta
Campaign finance
FISA
ADD… never has held a meeting as Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations.
ADD… all the present votes in the Illinois senate.
ADD… ONE trip to Iraq.
ADD… Admitted drug user.
ADD… Plagiarism
More to come.

I think that any Obama supporter who doesn’t agree with John McCain on some level and then looks at the change in Obama’s stance on FISA and NAFTA is just trying very hard not to deal with facts.
That is why so many Democrats will cross over and vote for the only person running this November whose words can be trusted. McCain 08.

I like it…Obama is a Tax Terrorist…he needs to go.

All the dems had to do to easily win the presidency was to pick a half way decent candidate—and instead they give us the the lying idiot crook known as Obama. Why couldn’t we get just one decent person for the demmie nomination?

Obama is the man of change.
He changes his mind.
Change Obama from being the Democratic Candidate.
His sign should read “Change me”

easy to spot the paid Obama bloggers. They start off with McCain is a…..
just like in the primaries they started off with I am a former Clinton supporter, or I am a white/female/Jew/Republican/…….

I wasn’t for offshore drilling either UNTIL the technology came along to make it reasonably safe for the environment. Since it is now reasonably safe………..I am all about offshore drilling.

If any of you Obama supporters ever followed along in your high School Goverment class or at least took basic Algebra you would realize that what Obama is Presenting is fantasy. Who does he think is going to pay for his proposed programs? There is not enough money in the budget. If he is elected and if he has the house and senate we are going to get taxed on everything Gas, income, groceries, you name it, it will be taxed. And if it is not taxed to the middle class then it will trickle down to the middleclass through increased prices that the large companies will be forced to increase due to the additional taxes levied upon them. The middle class will end up paying for all of these programs.
Obama supporters need to look at reality and quit being so EMOTIONAL.

Obama still means much higher taxes for everyone that works.

Nader/Gonzalez 08

Obama stated “We’ve got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money.”
Mai stated “God helps those who help themselves. Each individual should be responsibile and accountable for their own action.”
Senator Obama is a modern day Robin Hood. Do we really want such a socialist in the White House? The USA should not be expected to support countries and individuals who are irresponsible or stupid.

And another thing. Arent you people sick and tired of the partisan politics in washington? They are not looking out for the countries well being, they are looking out for thier own party and getting re-elected. This has not been about the people for a long time.
McCain like Lieberman have been the Mavericks of thier party. They actually want to get things done. They are not partisan to the extreem like many Republican and Democrats are. They are not afraid to cross the aisle or see things differently than thier party.
They are leaders not followers.
The Jr Senator from Illinois cannot say the same. he is a Liberal Democrat that will tax and spend us to poverty.

MCCAIN’S DADDY WAS AN ADMIRAL.
MCCAIN’S MOTHER WAS AN OIL HEIRESS
MCCAIN = MORE WAR + HIGHER OIL PRICES

Chuck-
i think you are the liar about McCain.

I hope you’re not stupid enough to believe Dr. Martin Luther King would be associated with the republican party of today or Clarence Uncle Thomas or are you?

Speaking of Obama: OBAMA IS AN EXCELLENT PRESIDENT!
Obama is a racial-minority individual and does not like racism:
I know it may be hard to believe.
However, it is absolutely true that Ronald Wilson Reagan committed horrible, racist, hate crimes during his presidency.
A lot of people know about Reagan’s infamy.
And a lot of people will know about Reagan’s infamy–even until the end of human existence: they’ll find out.
Numbers 32:23: “Be sure your sins will find you out.”
- A.W.
(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)
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‘If only it were possible to BAN invention that bottled up memories like scent so they never faded and never got stale.’ (Once again, please consider an illustrative analogy: like scent that is held in or restrained or inhibited or suppressed or bottled up.) Off the top of my head, it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.