More on that Obama-Lieberman Talk

Somebody needs to wash a dirty slap across that ugly Lieberman’s face. Judas!

Joe lieberman is trash.

I have to wonder if Lieberman will be re-elected considering the positions he has taken for the past few years. He is going to side with whoever is willing to protect Israel – that is his main concern. At this time it appears the Republicans are more pro-Israel than the Democrats, but that could change. His loyalits does not appear to be with the US and his constituents but Israel.

I applaud Obama for having a concern and facing it straight on. He didn’t go whine to the press. He went straight to Senator Lieberman and privately addressed his concern.
My opinion of Senator Obama has certainly become very positive as time has passed.

capt.
for real change we should have had sen. clinton on top. obama is not the one to bring about the change we need.

Cool temperament, eh? Obama is nothing but a sleezy accuser. Everybody else is at fault except his good ole self! Great Presidential, material right?? We are going to get the most insecure president ever with Obama and it will be the worst years for America yet both domestic and International.

John, so these are his “friends”? Interesting – he served on a board with Ayers, but now they are best friends. The same with the religious leaders you refer to. My minister is not my friend – he is the minister of my church and I do not always agree with him. I had no idea that Farhkcan was a friend – that is a new one to me. If someone is an acquaintence, they are now automatically considered a “friend” to you?

Why is it up to Lieberman to deny rumors about Obama’s religion?
Obama and many of the people that support him now, supported Ned Lamont. The Huffington Post and Daily Kos websites, the two blogs on which Obama has personally posted, have said terrible things about Lieberman. It was on Huffington Post that the Leiberman in blackface photoshop was posted.
I don’t remember Obama sticking up for Lieberman, but now he wants Lieberman to combat a rumor he has nothing to do with.

Stephen Gianelli
well said.

Lieberman is the only plus side in Al Gore’s 2000 election loss. He would have made Chaney look like a saint.

ONCE AGAIN EVERY AMERICAN PERSON BRAINWASHED BY BUSH AND THE ADMIN THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRIOSIST NOT TRUE PEOPLE SNAP OUT OF THE BUSH BRAINWASH DO SOME RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN AND YOU WILL SEE THEY ARE NOT ALL TERRIOST!!!!!

I live in Ct and I am ashamed what this state did by electing J Libermann back into the Senate. He is a triator to the Dems. I hope they swallow him in the next election.

Once the Democrats get more seats in the Senate this election, Lieberman will not get anything passed, he will not chair any committee. He will be a lame duck Senator that will not win re-election. That is what Obama reminded him of in their “talk.”

Sunny wrote:
seah, exactly what has Obama done that is so scary? You make such a statement but fail to back it up with any real evidence.
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Totally agree. Rarely is an Obama criticism ever backed up with fact. You hear that he’s scary, divisive, sexist, racist, a Muslim, but nothing else.
And speaking of Muslim, that criticism just needs to stop. Fundamentalists wackos define everyone of their faith? If so, watch out for Mitch Romney, the Mormon. He’ll marry you and your sister, right?!

I think Joe sees right through the empty suit.

The DNC has their man, no matter how un-electable he is. They’ll shove him down your throat, and you’ll like it.

Yes… they will have to “prove” these allegations against Obama… and if those things are all they can get on Obama, then
McCain (with his illogical stance on the real issues) is in real trouble… no one can beat Obama on the issues !!!

The Obama “smear machine” is hard at work……Why has the media stopped mentioning the accusing memos they send to reporters….whose next to be accused of racism or disloyalty?
That is a good point. Now that the public knows about the race baiting memos that were sent to the press regarding Senator Clinton, president Clinton, Ferraro, Bob Johnson with BET they have disappeared…are the accdusations still widely distributed in the press and hidden from public view?

Obama must be editing these boards, because I had two fairly mild comments and they were pulled immediately. Anyone else having trouble putting the truth out there?

It is not the responsibility of Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman, or anyone else to clarify what religion Senator Obama believes in and follows. Each one has made the only statement that they can make when asked such a personal question. The question should be put to Senator Obama. What is the purpose in asking someone else about what another’s religion is. “As far as I know” is the same answer I would give. I know only what Obama has told us. I read in the National Register, that the Obama campaign is now trying to “spin” this to discredit Sen Lieberman. They are masters at this. Look for this strategy, it defined his campaign against Sen Clinton, the Politics of Personal Destruction, so “old style” and so very transparent. Probably the main reason I will not vote for him. I get it! Must be a very flawed person to need to engage in that, with everything else he has going for him, such as fanaticism.

McCain was censured for his role in the S&L scandal in the 80s. Would you trust someone like that to be in charge?

Those that bring up Obama’s crazy wild Christian preacher are the same ones that say he is a Muslim. These people need to think a Muslim wouldn’t have a Christian preacher! They don’t like Obama so they use the preacher or the Muslim excuse depending on who they are talking to at the time. It is all about discrediting Obama

Wait a minute on the accuracy of this article. It’s been reported that this specific interpretation of what occurred between Lieberman and Obama came from an Obama aide and that Newsweek never even bothered to contact Lieberman’s office for their statement or response. When they eventually were contacted, since Newsweek didn’t bother to, the response from Lieberman’s spokesman was ” The anonymous Obama campaign staffer’s characterization of the private conversation was entirely false and fabricated”. Maybe the conversation had more to do with Obama’s intentionally ducking out of the Kyle Lieberman vote and then doing an about turn in the AIPAC speech he gave right before this confrontation occurred. Obama reversed himself on key issues regarding Israel and said that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard was indeed a terrorist organization. Lieberman called him on that reversal. It’s nice to know someone would call him on this charade he and his camp are engaging in this election. Obama couldn’t get his sanctimonious behind to the Senate to cast his vote on Kyle Lieberman and really show us what his judgement was rather then us having to just take his word for it, in particular since he has completely reversed himself lately to pander to AIPAC. Where was his character and leadership when he opted to not show up, not stand up, not cast a vote and be prepared to deal with the political flak for doing so. He certainly spewed out enough political flak to those who actually did vote on this bill. He attacks them (Clinton and McCain) and the Obama camp spins it like he actually was there and voted, but he wasn’t anywhere near the Senate to vote. And now absolutely everything he has said recently pertaining to Israel and Iran would indicate that he himself would have or should have voted “yes”. It is really distressing seeing the spin of the Obama camp, the pro-Obama media spin and more distressing the fact that the American public has no idea what the Kyle Lieberman vote even is and seems to be oblivious to the fact that the same build up we saw before we went into Iraq is occurring again in regards to Iran as we speak.
We’ve had Cheney in the Middle East recently, Bush in Israel and now Bush in the European Union and the headlines on his meetings there today pertain to Iran being one of the main issues on the table. We have two battleships now outside Iran and one outside Lebanon. Saudi Arabia engaged in exercises in the case of radioactive and nuclear fallout right after Cheney’s visit. It was reported in the Israeli Press a couple weeks ago that Cheney did indeed go to the Middle East in preparation for an aerial attack on Iran (which the White House has disputed), Bush and Olmert are looking at being put of the political arena soon and yet both are committed to dealing with Iran before they’re gone and worried if the Dems get in that they won’t do it . If we do an aerial attack on Iran before Bush leaves, for those who haven’t paid attention, remember Obama skipped the vote and so his judgement is moot and Jim Webb put forth a bill
(co-sponsored by Clinton) a week after Kyle Lieberman, which would have required that any attack on Iran be authorized by Congress beforehand. That resolution quietly was squashed and who do we have to thank for that? Nancy Pelosi and company. She opposed it because she felt it tied the hands of the President when it came to ensuring the national security interests of Israel. In other words, just like Obama last week did, she caved in to AIPAC. So the Pelosi and Dems gave the green light to Bush
and Bush could argue so credibly. People, quit arguing about flag lapel pins and get with the program.

The sad truth is we can never be sure that what Obama, or his campaign, says is the definitive truth. He is always willing to “change” his position and “hope” that we don’t remember, or hold him to, any statement or promise he had previously made.
The NEW kind of politics; CHANGE we can believe in………..
I know that lying politicians are a hackneyed cliche; leave it to Obama to take it to a whole NEW level……
Down with the neo-Marxists!
Defeat comrade Obama in the fall-for the good of the nation!!!!!!!!

jackie wrote:
He is an angry guy
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Jackie, what is Barack Obama angry about? Facts please.

Go away?? Get real, Mary. Barak Obama is going to be the next president.
Blast and blame -thought that was a republican game…

It is always puzzling to me how many commentors can make generalizations about Obama while ignoring McCains’s much more obvious flaws. Just the Airbus contract he pushed for France to get instead of our own Boeing, while taking money for his campaign from the lobbyists firm that was handling Airbus would seem like enough reason to question his motives about any position he has. As in most campaigns, follow the money. McCain has big corporate donors, Obama is funded by ordinary Americans with mostly small donations. Who will do the best job as president for most Americans and who will side with corporate interests? It’s not too hard to figure out.

Dan A said, “Intimidate Joe Lieberman—you dont have to –he intimidates himself. What a spineless marshmallow with no backbone whatsoever–whichever way the wind blows you will find Joe ‘the follower’”
Yes, because public opinion is blowing SOOOOOO strong in support of the Iraq war. That must be why Lieberman supports it.
/sarcasm off

Why should other people be held guilty while the whole problem is Obama’s own — his middle name, his father, and his stepfather, and his childhood. He blames other people for not “helping” him solve the problem. The rumor exists because some reasonable concern, not some one made those things up. Obama should be ashamed of his behavior. Obama should work on his own to rid of the rumor, if that is a rumor at all.

The release of OB’s birth cert should clear the air…or stir things up?
I don’t care if he’s a Muslim or a pagan. I do care that he’s a pandering uberliberal. As far as Liberman goes, the voters of his district saw fit to elect him once again.
what bothers me is the tilt toward retorical violence that many on the left have sunk to. You wanna slap him, call him ugly (I’m sure his momma didn’t think so), Call him trash, whatever; go ahead. Just know this, people who rank out others behind the viel of annonimity are resorting to one of the most elementary styles of arguuments. Think; make rational arguments. Don’t get all emotional and drag us down into the mud. Bipartisanship! We’re all in this together and if YOU don’t think so then we have a real problem.

My only comment is I find it unseemly that Barack Obama is attacking a Jew when he needs the support of Jews in Florida, NY, and around the country. Of course Jews helped in the civil rights movement but now I guess we don’t matter (I’m a Christian, but my late mother was a Jew).
Barack Obama is looking more and more like our very own Democratic Tom DeLay, saying he will “whup” Congress into order.
I won’t vote for a man who operates like that.
I also won’t vote for a man who can’t speak without a script and who seems to blame everyone else for his troubles.
You are right on, Jake. Keep up the good work. You seem to be one of the fairest moderators of blogs on the web I’ve seen in this whole election cycle.

Obama shyster tactics are getting to be very old news. his campaign did a similar tactic to Bill Clinton by twisting Bill’s words and meanings. And then told Bill he needed to stay off the campaign trail and then called Chelsea a pimp for her mother. Give me a break from this incredible nonsense. He is not only too liberal, he is immature and a liar in his tactics. If this is not Obama’s doing then he needs to fire someone on his campaign staff for making him look like an idiot! Go Lieberman and keep on supporting McCain!

Considering Obama’s legions of supporters spilling anti-Jew bile on Kos, DU and even Obama’s own website
He should be grateful to Lieberman for that much. Joe should have just told him to go Ned Lamont himself.

Voter, you make a lot of sense.There are so many sickos on this board and others who obsess about a person’s religion when the real concern should center on the policies and leadership capability of the candidates.Obama simply scares some people who won’t admit why they harbor disdain.Fortunately, i believe most Americans have had it with the GOP and are clearly yearning for change.

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) – Democratic Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma said Tuesday Barack Obama is “the most liberal senator” in Congress and he has no intention of endorsing him for the White House.
All right Obamabots -go tear into Boren.

“My point is that for a 6’4″ candidate (Obama) to resort to physical intimidation of a much shorter man (Lieberman) by backing him against the wall and towering over him while “getting in his face” about a speech is “thuggish” behavior, unbecoming a President.”
Guess you don’t remember Lydon B. Johnson. Or was he a ‘thug’ too?
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Once Lieberman shows up as John McCain’s running mate, we won’t have to worry about who he caucuses with … then again, maybe he’s too powerful in his Senate position now to give it up for the VP uncertainty. It doesn’t look that good for McCain really.

Can you imagine the “next president of the United State” get caught on one of video clips showing Trinity church’s members cheering, laughing, and clapping hands when Rev Wright was shouting “God D America”????

Sunny, I can’t speak for Seah. But what concerns me about Sen. Obama is that I don’t believe that an individual can be member of a church, financially support a church, and raise your children in a church for 20 years and NOT believe the tenants of that church. The Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright has admitted that his preachings were based, in part, on the works of James Cone, the “recognized pioneer” of Black Liberation Theology. Sen. Obama can believe in whatever he wants. But if he does believe in Black Liberation Theology, then THAT is scary! Google it!

SENATOR McCAIN SAID TODAY: “I AM GOING TO CAMPAIGN IN ALL THIRTEEN COLONIES. MY CAMPAIGN WILL EMPLOY ALL THE LATEST TECHNOLOGIES: THE TELEGRAPH, THE CARRIER PIGEON AS WELL AS THE PONY EXPRESS.

PS to @ Jun 10, 2008 8:23:18 PM (“wonder why Lieberman switched to Republicans”. (Sic.)
Lieberman was defeated in the Democratic primary for his senate seat, and switched to INDEPENDENT in order to qualify for the general election ballot and retain his office.
He IS NOT a Republican.

Torture: The United States’ official policy does not condone torture. However, the President of the United States may grant exceptions for extra ordinary circumstances.
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Even the president of the United States is not above the law. At this very moment Article of Impeachment are being read in the Congress. This Articles were drawn up by Dennis Kucinish. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

Regarding Lieberman’s statement and Hillary’s “as far as I know??” – Jake, please, watch the video of the Hillary interview. Please. I wish you would not repeat mischaracterizations of her words. She said “no” several times and the interviewer kept pressing her, and “as far as I know” was an expression of incredulity on why a journalist would press her to make a statement on another persons’ religious beliefs after she’d said “no” several times. This is crazy – I am no fan of Lieberman but how else can he answer the same question, other than to say what he has heard? Can he presume to make an absolute, declarative statement about another person’s religion? Who can? Come on. What’s really happening here is that the Obama campaign can’t function without a scapegoat to constantly accuse of the most heinous crimes, and now that they won’t have Hillary for a time, they’ve moved on to Lieberman – who the netroots have always enjoyed trashing just as much.

Joe Lieberman has been a slime ball goin back to the 1990s. I wish Ned Lamont defeated him back in ’04.
If I could have voted in 2000 I would have voted for Bush just because Lieberman was the ticket. I can’t stand the traitor.

Rhbate, you wrote: “Even the president of the United States is not above the law.”
I totally agree. But when it comes to waterboarding the three detainees, Bush is on solid ground. The 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force, Sec. 2 (a) states: “IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”
And with regards to the Invasion of Iraq, Congress authorized that as well in the 2002 Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq. Google it! Read the entire resolution.

“Somebody needs to wash a dirty slap across that ugly Lieberman’s face. Judas!”
Change we can believe in.

Iam not surprise with all contraversy with Obama, all his life has made bad judgement select friends and associates, when is made public he just desassocited, like thats nothing and everybody has to accept, same happen with his wife comments, his excuse misspoken. and leave her alone.
Good luck DEMOCRATIC PARTY>

What is wrong with the DNC? Why do they want Obama as our next President? It is so obvious to voters we don’t have a say in this process. What kind of power Does this “man” have that he can sway people of intelligence? I am amazed that we have so much wrong with a candidate but he breezes thru the process like a “god” that can do no wrong….. GAWD!!!!!!!! we need to wake up America.. hear, see, speak no evil? We better get our heads out of the sand while we still have a chance to right this wrong. McCain may not be what we hoped for.. but he sure has more integrity than the other choice. Maybe the Independent party will still offer some hope

Joe Lieberman ran for Senate in 2006 on the pledge that he would fight to get a Democrat in the White House in 2008, and many CT voters took him at his word. Then Obama stayed away conspicuously didn’t show up to campaign for Lamont, after pleas from Lieberman’s staff. So he lied to get elected, then stabbed Obama in the back and now he’s defending McCain at every turn and offering half-hearted “as far as I know”-type “defenses” of Obama’s Christianity. Classy guy.