Obama and McCain spar over immigration in front of Latinos

Sallie — How so?

As a democrat, I wont vote for Obama. He is arrogant and unaccomplished. Simply running for the Presidency with the promotion of his candidacy by the media (ABC, Cnn, Msnbc) getting tingles down their legs trying to prove some point on racism left over from the 60′s.I said it 6 months ago. He was a very poor state senator and other than him being “different” than Bush, He brings nothing! He has accomplished little and does not deserve the presidency!

I know this will bring some heat. But I think we should tighten the border and if that means building a wall or fence so be it. When my wife,( who is a native Puerto Rican and a 29 year career Master Chief in the Navy) went to Mexico, we were pulled over by the Policia and every dime we had in our pockets were taken by the police and then they sent us on our way. Over 1100.00 for going 5 miles over the speed limit. Why should we be nice to a country that doesnt even control its own police and is sending drugs over the border every day. Not to mention the criminals that cross in to our country. ” Well they do jobs Americans wont take or do” BS!! Americans wont do the jobs for the low pay the illigal mexicans will. Cut off the supply of illigal Mexicans and the hiring dirt bags will be forced to hire Americans at normal pay. Americans waving jobs at 2.00 an hour are just has guilty as the Mexicans jumping the borders to fill those jobs.

OBAMA THE BEST CHOICE

I am a middle aged Hispanic and will try here to explain how we,with some exceptions, feel about undocumented workers. I also regard myself as a typical hispanic.
Hispanics are one cultural family and owe alleigence to one country or another. I, my family and friends owe ours to the good old USA. Many of us are vets and taxpayers.
Per the above, we are one big family and when someone picks on one, he/she picks on all. When the Republicans pass cruel and punitive laws regarding our “brothers and sisters”, we feel the snubs, the slights and insuations. Plainly,the GOP is saying we do not want any more of you people. You are lazy, criminals, dirty and use up our tax monies. The Republicans have been broadcasting that message for years and we are sick of it. Our way of taking care of this problem will be by voting Democratic in 11/2008 and getting rid of the Republican lawmakers who demonize Hispanics.
We do realize that there is an illegal immigration problem but it must be dealt with in a fair compassionate way equitable to as many folks as possible. Republicans have proven that they do not want a place at the table for this.

to lila. if you consider yourself to be
a democrat, then vote democrat, or be what you are not.

BO Said “It will be one of my priorities on my first day,” yeah right…. I really don’t believe this will be a priority issue on day one…. why do politicians lie…. oh yeah…. He wants votes… and some idiots will actually believe him

Our goverment should enforce the laws on the books by allowing each and every law enforcement officer in this country to stop and lock up illegal immigrants. They are no better than bank robbers or home invasioners. They do not respect our laws. If they were responsible they would curtail their population growth to stay within means of their family and country’s resources. Seems when one is allowed into the country legally, they then wany to keep the family together by allowing the other 57 members of same family to come across the border.
Seal the border and send illegals home, Senators Obama and McCain.

: devilkev | Jun 28, 2008 8:07:49 PM:
YEA!!!
Good post!
You’ve done your homework.
MCCAIN BEFORE B O.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

Putting a flopper with less than 2 years experience as a senator in the most important Job in the world is a horrible mistake. Obama just flopped again. This time it was in NC when he said he fully supported free trade but forgot that he promised a few weeks earlier to completely overall the NAFTA agreement. In these times we can afford someone who is so wet behind the ears and whose views are borderline socialism; he makes Hillary look like a republican.
On gas, just remember who is still keeping offshore drilling off the table until next year as a political ploy to get Obama in the Whitehouse…all this at the expense of the US taxpayers. Every time you fill up, you’re making an involuntary contribution to the Democratic Party because forbid they do something good for the American people over their fears of possibly making the current administration look good before 2009; Keep prices high they say.

…within the same speech.

BruhMan
Until the debates heat up, these guys are going to appeal to everyone and stay off sensitive topics as long as possible; understood.
Sell me on Obama; what makes him so great? up to now, we don’t know much about him except that his dear friend and spiritual advisor is a racist and preaches hate against Americans. He must be walking on water in your mind given less than 2 years in the senate?

tim,
NONE!!! That’s the point. People site Obama as a flip flopper as their reason for not voting for him. McCain lost my when he no-showed for the 21st Century GI Bill of Rights. That alone was enough for me. And, I thought he should have been President in 2000. But, he has become a shell of his own self.

tim,
Then at the same time, McCain pandering to the Religous Right should be an issue as well. But, he’s a “war hero” with a squeeky clean rep, and anything said about his associations are not talked about.
Is Keating 5 an issue? How about giving military secrets to the enemy while you’re held captive? Any feeling on his adulterous past? Well, Michelle Obama just became “really” proud of this country…was Cindy proud while she was abusing pills or stealing from her charity? EVERYONE HAS A PAST!!!

tim,
YOU brought up associations. But, now since you realize EVERYONE has a past, I’m stuck on Rev. Wright? I just suggest you look deeper than the surface.

Vote for whoever you vote for, and get whatever you get.

well, since you asked.. roe v wade means nothing to me. i believe we all make choices, but there is a creator that we will all answer to in some sort of way. but i also realize its an issue to voters. i want to see conservative justices on the supreme court who UPHOLD the laws of the constituiton. not liberals who try to change them. warrentless wiretaps? well, im not really for them i guess, but it dosnt affect me either. you have to realize this isnt the same world we live in as our founding fathers did. im not really sure on that one. the government has and always will do illegal things we dont know about to keep us safe, so theres a fine line there. “marketized” health care, absolutely. we the people should, and can do this efficiently. limited government oversight on it maybe, but it should be that hard. and even if we arent doing it effectively, the government is DEFINATELY not the answer. see this is what gets me, we all complain about the government. its natural. so why would you want them in control of soooo much??!! if there are so many cheats and liars in washington, why would you want them to control YOUR health care of all things??!! i just dont uinderstand that one at all.

and by the way… whats wrong with making illegal immigration a top priority again? just wondering…

bruhman..
not trying to start a fight, honest, but i really would like to hear your response to the government being in control of your healthcare and why you believe they would do such a good job at it?

Hi Dreamer,
I applaud you for dreaming and your efforts. keep dreaming and keep striving for your ultimate goals. You will realize all your dreams and will be a plus in our society. And you are so right, there are so many American citizens who do not appreciate all the wonderful services this country offers them. So many do not even make use of them and you realize their immense value. It just does not seem fair. Do not dispair dreamer! Go for your dream! Good luck and God bless you Dreamer.

Did anyone hear when the great Obama made the statement when talking about IRAQ and the statement he made.Maybe my TV was the only one hearing it,his remark( I know there has been a great loss in Iraq and then went on to add that he knew that the Latinos suffered the greatest loss,,well guess that regular American Citizens have not loss sons and daughters in IRAQ)and people think this guy can be a leader,,just another lying politicin saying whatever to get votes.

Why does everyone assume the Latino voters favor illegal immigration?? They know when an illegal takes a job, that’s one job less for them. Legal Latino’s are hurting in today’s economy…they are being laid off in huge numbers. Every available job counts. Think about it.

tim,
And, if you return…sorry I left abruptlt last night…I am in a government healthcare system now. You see, I’m a government employee, and the program I get is at least what every American should have access to.

What was John McCain doing when he was shot down over North Vietnam?
Google search for napalm to find out.

CW – I hope you and your wife reconsider – my husband spent years in the military under Jimmy Carter – it was a disaster for the military and he has since spent his whole career with a military contractor doing what he can to make your life better and safer. With Obama as president, you can count on military cuts and find yourself scrambling for even the most basic needs to do your job. My husband said he spent countless hours scavenging parts and pieces just to keep equipment running. After Reagan was sworn in, he said it was like someone turned on the pipeline and suddenly much needed supplies, equipment parts, and just the basicis to do his job became available. Please, think again and remember that a vote for Obama is a vote against our wonderful men and women in uniform.

IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY;
IF YOU LIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR;
IF YOU LIKED HIS VOTE AGAINST A GI BILL FOR IRAQ VETS;
IF LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES;
IF LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH;
IF YOU CAN’T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN;
IF YOU LIKE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT;
IF YOU LIKE A PRESIDENT WHO VOTED AGAINST EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN;
IF YOU LIKE A PRESIDENT WHO VOTED AGAINST MATERNITY LEAVE FOR WOMEN;
IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE;
IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT SEND JOBS AND TECHNOLOGY OVERSEAS;
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT PRACTICES TORTURE;
IF YOU LIKE A GOVERNMENT THAT SPIES ON ITS OWN CITIZEN;
IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU’LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.

Well, certainly this Latina will NOT vote for Obama! That’s a fact! Traditional values is what’s important for me and Obama is a flaming liberal. No way will I be his stepping stone!

Latinos will NEVER vote for Obama. They have seen that his word means nothing and everything he says to them is a lie. Latinos are not as easily persuaded as the wine sipping whites.

This year we will choose between two men who do not care about the sovereignty of this nation. The media and special interest have been able to turn the issue of immigration into everything it is not. And issue of race. Why do Hispanics not want to stop illegal immigration? If they are Americans you would think they would want to stop people from entering our country illegally by the millions. People who cost tax payers billions upon billions of dollars, people who lower wages for blue collar workers by working for pennys on the dollar.
And all I hear is oh but they just want a better life. Well great then they need to get involved in THEIR country’s politics and try to advance their economy. It is not the American people and American tax payers responsibility to pay for these people. And anyone who thinks its ok for the government (which has nothing, it gets all its money from the people) to pay welfare for illegals is immoral on the grounds of forcing a man to redistribute his hard earned dollars to people who are not even supposed to be here.

If we as Americans let to many mexicans into this country, this country will fundementally change into something that would be unrecognizable to us soon enough.
These statements are not racist they are common sense. If you drive to certain parts of certain cities its like your not even in America any more! everything is in Spanish, and it has Mexican flags everywhere.
Do Americans really want millions and millions of people in this country who do not even speak English or share any common heritage or ideals?

Andy, the good thing is people like you are OH so much in the minority. Sorry, you lose…

Re: Obama’s new name
What do you people think of a this as a new name for Obama?
“Obama the Tax Terrorist”
and his side kick
“Clark the NOT Super Hero”
It will take less then cryptonit to weaken this guy. Another guy to run his mouth about McCain. McCain is a respectable senator thats accomplished more for this country then the two of them together. Seeing Obama’s done nothing for this country, and Chicago got worse since hes been there. Like buy a rat infested house, from Obama and his best friend Tony, Clark to help gun down the rats for you!
Do you think Oprah would buy one too? And she can interview a trouble rat on her show that escaped Clark the gun men.

Obama is pandering to the Latino vote with a promise to keep the border open. This will cost him more votes from U.S. citizens than he gains from the Latino’s who are not really in favor of an open border anyway.

What’s wrong with you all? As a person watching the US closely from outside the of the US (New Zealand), I’m staggered that anybody can still vote republican after the disastrous two terms the US has just had! It’s a shame that the whole world can’t vote in the US elections because the outcome affects us all and from the outside world, US citizens seem startlingly ignorant of the impact of their profound ignorance of reality.

The Immigration Issue Is not the Main Issue facing Americans today.
The economy is the issue. As Jobs have been outsourced, as fuel costs mount, amd the economy weakens these issues should be coming to the forefront.
If these issues are not addressed, Americans themselves may be looking to immigrate to another country.
The shoe may be on the other foot!

For some, abortion is the only issue that matters. For others, where a candidate stands on gun control is all that they care about. But the big issues, as Buddy in PA points out, are what Americans should be focused on in this election. Calling either candidate a FRAUD or a Flip-flopper, adds nothing to the rational debate. See my blog posting, Swiftboating On a Budget ~ What Really Matters This Election Year at http://kgarry.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/swiftboating-on-a-budget-what-really-matters-in-this-election-year/.

The problem with the candidates is the focus on issues that are important but not the most important.
Even congress takes decisions that make you question their priorities. Adding a special type of visa for models? What the country needs are more educated and skilled members of society to enrich and make this country prosper.
Many criticize illegals, but in all the mist, there are a lot of students that are more than capable and willing to give back to society and we can’t.
Are super models the next doctors, engineers, teachers? etc.
Take for example the brain surgeon Alfredo Hinojosa, he was an illegal immigrant from Mexico. Now he’s saving American lives. There are more out there like him, students and graduates that can’t use their talents and knowledge, now THAT IS a priority along with the economy, and the war.
It’s even amazing how many that I have asked what the DREAM Act is, they have no idea what I’m talking about. Saddening.
I pray so that the next President will do what is best for America.

his tax hikes are going to hurt many small businesses. the combined income of 250k seems like a lot to some, but when your paying 20 salaries, and like someone said above, want to give a raise each year, you cant go raising taxes even more.
Believe me, you dont want the government to be running your life with handouts. Europe is full of countries like this and you cant even name your child what you want without the government approving it…
Dont let the Great USA turn into a european nanny state…

obama is the best
mccain is bad