Obama Attacks McCain on Oil
ABC News’ Jennifer Duck reports: As record high gas prices continue to plague Americans and further drive down the slumping economy, Sen. Barack Obama launched new proposals to control the high cost of energy while also attacking his Republican presidential rival Sen. John McCain.
“For the past years, our energy policy in this country has been simply to let the special interests have their way — opening up loopholes for the oil companies and speculators so that they could reap record profits while the rest of us pay $4 a gallon,” Obama, D-Ill., said in a statement.
The new plan cracks down on energy speculation by fully closing the “Enron loophole.” The loophole was enacted in 2000 and exempts from U.S. regulation energy speculators who make trades electronically.
“I think everyone believes there is too much speculation in the oil market and a lot of it flows directly from that particular loophole,” former Wall Street executive and Obama ally Gov. Jon Corzine told reporters on a conference call.
“It might as well have been called the Phil Gramm loophole, because it was snuck in at the 11th hour and 59th minute in the 2000 energy policy bill, and it really needs to be addressed,” Corzine added, attacking McCain’s economic advisor Phil Gramm. “And it would have a lot of impact, certainly, in the intermediate term, if not in the short term, with greater oversight here.”
Obama’s economic advisor Jason Furman argued McCain is unlikely to support the Democratic presidential candidate’s overall plan.
"What we’re talking about today is one very important part of Barack Obama’s overall plan," Furman said, "and it’s an overall plan that John McCain disagrees with. In almost every instance, he sides with oil companies and Barack Obama sides with consumers.”
The McCain campaign responded with a statement explaining how the Republican senator has supported closing the loophole in the past.
“The truth is Barack Obama is following John McCain’s lead to close a Wall Street loophole that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said. “John McCain has supported bipartisan efforts to close this loophole and will work to address abuses in oil speculation. Barack Obama has voted the party line for Democrats who claim the loophole is fixed.”
Although the recently passed farm bill includes a measure to close the "Enron loophole," Obama said he wants to “fully close” the loophole by requiring that U.S. energy futures trade on regulated exchanges.
Obama also is calling for the Federal Trade Commission and Justice Department to start investigating price manipulation in oil markets.
Corzine wouldn’t make his own prediction of future oil prices if regulatory changes go into effect — but he emphasized some economists’ predictions.
“Chief economists talk about maybe as much as $50 in there," Corzine said. "I’m not proposing that’s what you’d see in reduction in prices, but it’s pretty clear that we’ve got some of the signals that look like you have a frothy bubble, given the high volatility that is occurring in the market place and obviously the dramatic run up that has occurred in a year.”
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Hey, face the facts.
Obama got away with doing NOTHING about the gas tax holliday on Clinton and Mc Cain.
He got to bash their plan (and rightly so) but he offered NOTHING in reply.
So why doesnt he think he can get away with it again with drilling?
YOU DONT THINK THE CORRUPT MEDIA IS ACTUALLY GOING TO CALL OBAMA ON DOING NOTHING AT ALL ABOUT IT
do you?
Posted by: sid | June 22, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
To Bush & McCain—what goes with the millions of acres of already approved leases and drilling rights held by the oil companies? This is another non-issue adding pollution into the energy dependency discussion. Its the depressed dollar and commodity speculators causing the high gas costs and not any lack of drilling rights!!! For the speculator impact aspect we thank former U.S. Senator Phil Graham, an adviser to John McCain’s campaign.
Posted by: Lou R | June 22, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
It was almost inevitable that a combination of $4-a-gallon gas, public anxiety and politicians eager to win votes or repair legacies would produce political pandering on an epic scale. So it has, the latest instance being President Bush’s decision to ask Congress to end the federal ban on offshore oil and gas drilling along much of America’s continental shelf. This is worse than a dumb idea. It is cruelly misleading. The only real beneficiaries will be the oil companies that are trying to lock up every last acre of public land before their friends in power exit the political stage.
Posted by: ENRONED | June 22, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I like how Obama says “While the rest of US pay $4 a gallon gas” When the hell was the last time Obama payed for gas? This guy is a complete joke. When will people start to see that.
Posted by: Ryan | June 22, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
What the REPUBLICANS refuse to admit is that 70% of the land that has been leased to the oil companies for drilling has NOT been touched by the oil companies yet! That land has been sitting idle, and the republicans know this fact, yet because we are in an election year, suddenly the republicans are ignoring the fact of the idle land, and are NOW calling for drilling in the ocean, where NOONE even know for sure if there is any oil at all.
And the republicans are NOT telling the public that drilling off the coast of California, and Florida, would cost millions of jobs in those states, which rely on tourism, Florida, and that California’s economies could go bankrupt, millions would lose their jobs, and go into home foreclosure, and be homeless, ALL that would happen with absolutely NO guarantee that there is even ONE barrel of oil in the ocean.
And when it comes to ANWR in Alaska, experts say that there is about ONE DAYS WORTH of oil available there, ONLY ONE DAYS WORTH of oil there, and that it would take 10 years to get it from there to the gas pumps because pipelines would have to be built to get the oil from Alaska, and it would then need to be refined, and millions, and maybe billions would have to be spent, all to get ONE DAYS WORTH OF OIL.
The republicans are not talking about the facts, they are just talking garbage, and hoping that people will not hear about the idle land the oil companies ALREADY have, and are not drilling, when they could be drilling it. Instead they are talking about drilling in states they know is already NEVER going to agree to do that because it would kill their ecomnomy, and cause massive job lose, and ALL that would happen without any guarantee that oil exists off the coast of Florida or California.
Posted by: Steven | June 22, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Do not become “enroned” into believing offshore oil drilling will bring down fuel prices. Those are just lies manifested by Bush/Cheney/McCain and BIG OIL who are manipulating the prices, making their wallets fat at our expense.
If you believe that offshore drilling will lower gas prices, you are the same fools who still believe that Bush invaded Iraq for WMD, and to create it as a democratic society.
It was almost inevitable that a combination of $4-a-gallon gas, public anxiety and politicians eager to win votes or repair legacies would produce political pandering on an epic scale. So it has, the latest instance being President Bush’s decision to ask Congress to end the federal ban on offshore oil and gas drilling along much of America’s continental shelf. This is worse than a dumb idea. It is cruelly misleading. It will make only a modest difference, at best, to prices at the pump, and even then the benefits will be years away. It greatly exaggerates America’s leverage over world oil prices. It is based on dubious statistics. It diverts the public from the tough decisions that need to be made about conservation. There is no doubt that a lot of people have been discomfited and genuinely hurt by $4-a-gallon gas. But their suffering will not be relieved by drilling in restricted areas off the coasts of New Jersey or Virginia or California. The Energy Information Administration says that even if both coasts were opened, prices would not begin to drop until 2030. The only real beneficiaries will be the oil companies that are trying to lock up every last acre of public land before their friends in power exit the political stage. The whole scheme is based on a series of fictions that range from the egregious to the merely annoying. A country that consumes one-quarter of the world’s oil supply but owns only 3 percent of its reserves can drill its way out of any problem — whether it be high prices at the pump or dependence on oil exported by unstable countries in Persian Gulf. This fiction has been resisted by Obama but foolishly embraced by McCain, who seemed to be making some sense on energy questions until he jumped aboard the lift-the-ban bandwagon on Tuesday. A lesser fiction, perpetrated by the oil companies and, to some extent, by misleading government figures, is that huge deposits of oil and gas on federal land have been closed off and industry has had one hand tied behind its back by environmentalists, Democrats and the offshore protections in place for 25 years. The numbers suggest otherwise. Of the 36 billion barrels of oil believed to lie on federal land, mainly in the Rocky Mountain West and Alaska, almost two-thirds are accessible or will be after various land-use and environmental reviews. And of the 89 billion barrels of recoverable oil believed to lie offshore, the federal Mineral Management Service says fourth-fifths is open to industry, mostly in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaskan waters.
Posted by: ENRONED | June 22, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
To Bush & McCain—what goes with the millions of acres of already approved leases and drilling rights held by the oil companies? This is another non-issue adding pollution into the energy dependency discussion. Its the depressed dollar and commodity speculators causing the high gas costs and not any lack of drilling rights!!! For the speculator impact aspect we thank former U.S. Senator Phil Graham, an adviser to John McCain’s campaign.
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as soon as we decide to drill the prices will come down because we trade non FUTURE markets. You don’t understand what that meens huh. Didn’t think so. Or maybe you do but you just so liberal that you don’t want it to happen because you don’t want republicans to be right. even if it’s good for our country
Posted by: timothy Bladel | June 22, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I want to trust politicians…I am trying….
I would be a fool, to do so…
Posted by: Jodi | June 22, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
The offshore oil drilling ban lift, implemented by Bush is a political ploy.
Face it.
The fact of the matter is that the United States uses about 25% of the world`s oil and if we were to tap 100% or all domestic oil available, it would account for about 3% of our total usage. We would still need to import the other 22% of world oil. Not only is that “strategy” false, but the fact remains that they are not prohibited from drilling en mass and there are 68 million acres of known oil fields approved for drilling but have remained undrilled. Even if we were to go into full scale mad rush drilling, the payoff would be 7 to years off and would effect the cost of gasoline by at most 25 cents per gallon. In fact, there are over 10,000 issued drilling permits that have gone unused. It is speculation and Capitalist greed that has created artificial “supply and demand” crisis to drive the price artificially high in the same way the housing bubble burst.
Posted by: ENRONED or Sinclaired | June 22, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
To Steven | Jun 22, 2008 5:58:06 PM
Why would those MILLIONS of people lose their jobs? Let me quote you:
“And the republicans are NOT telling the public that drilling off the coast of California, and Florida, would cost millions of jobs in those states, which rely on tourism, Florida, and that California’s economies could go bankrupt, millions would lose their jobs, and go into home foreclosure, and be homeless, ALL that would happen with absolutely NO guarantee that there is even ONE barrel of oil in the ocean.”
If not one barrel of oil is found why would those MILLIONS OF PEOPLE (OMG!!!!) lose their jobs. You are hysterical and not in the funny way. You need to get back on your meds or someone needs to give you a good slap across the face.
Now, could someone tell me how much oil is on those lands that Democrats will allow the oil companies to drill on? What do the experts say? Not what a Democratic operative or politician says. What do the geologists say? I’m asking honestly because people like Steven are not credible what with his hysteria. So when he says something like 70% of the leased land is not being drilled I’d like to know where he gets his info. Please don’t give me someone congressmen’s website and ask me to believe them.
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
John McCain is again pandering just like he did with the gas tax holiday, John McCain, knows that 70% of the land the oil companies leased from the government is sitting idle, and we could be drilling that now, 70% of the land has NOT been drilled, so how about the oil companies do that first, but of course John McCaIn doesn’t want to tell you that, because it would means that he would have to admit that he, is pandering just like John McCain pnadered with teh gas tax holiday, which he knew he would not be able to do anything about anyway, since he is not president yet, and summer started YESTERDAY.
Obama has plans which include: Obama of course will also encourage the oil companies to drill the 70% of the idle land they have sitting idly. Obama will also be developing new sources of fuel like biofuels, ethanol, as well as clean coal technology, he also said that he would consider nuclear, as well give incentives to American car companies to develop electric cars, and when it comes to clean, sustainable, renewable energy sources, Obama will also invest in solar, and wind energy, which are renewable sources of energy. Obama of course will also encourage the oil companies to drill the 70% of the idle land they have sitting idly.
Posted by: SARAH | June 22, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
It seems like the Obama bashers can only make unfounded personnal attacks on Obama… I have yet to see any legitimate arguments against his policy stance…But then again , isn’t that how the GOP (Gas and Oil Party)have won elections over the past 14 years?………..They lose on most issues by 20+ points but they “reach” their base with “emotional knee-jerk” gimmicks such as flag burning, gay bashing, racism, and fear mongering……Molcai
Posted by: molacai | June 22, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Didn’t McCain’s Charlie Black support this Enron Loophole as a lobbyist?
Posted by: Thinking | June 22, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
The Special Interest Grroup is minting money on hiked up Oil Prices Exxon/Mobile, Big Oil Companies supported by Bush/Cheney and Republicans like Senator Phil Gramm are the main cause of excessive Oil prices.
Recent Business Week article mentioned that Supply and Demand is not driving the oil price; rather speculation at Futures at Stock Market is the determining factor.
Senator Obama has rightly proposed to close the Enron Loop holes, which was tacked by Senator Gramm at the last minute. He is also Senator McCaine close hands (left or right).
We need to follow the common sense and get the greedy Oil Companies and Republicans off our back. There is no rationale for such a hiked up oil prices, which we common people are paying at the expense of Windfall Profits for few greedy ones..
Posted by: bharat Sahay | June 22, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
The hysterics on this page are astounding. I can’t believe how emotional some of you people are getting. Steven, do you know that foreign countries are going to drill in those same places if we don’t? Do you know that China is already drilling in the Gulf of Mexico? How soon before they go 50 miles off the East coast or West coast and put in an oil rig?
All of you leftists need to get a grip and deal with the facts. Jeez, you people are completely out of control.
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Sean — the drilling off the coast of Florida, and California would interrupt the tourism industry in those states, and basically kill the tourism industry in those states, and that is why those 2 states have ALWAYS voted against drilling off their coast, because for (the years the drilling would be taking place) the tourism industry would be destroyed, and millions of people who rely on tourism jobs would become unemployed
Posted by: Steven | June 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Obama did absolutely nothing before he run for president about everything he is talking about today. He criticizes everyone who did anything before he proposes his plan now. So, why all of sudden he has all these ideas to fix all these problems, but he did nothing before he started running for president?
Whatever the results, McCain did many right things before he ran for president. But the media is all become Obama’s mouth to spread the criticisms.
Posted by: amy | June 22, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
I dont trust Barack Obama.
Posted by: brigitte | June 22, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Drilling didn’t the man from the American petroleum whatever on ABC this morning say that the reason they didn’t drill on that 80% of lease they had was because they didn’t have the Riggs to drill with?
Well where are they going to get it for off shore? This just doesn’t add up to me.
Posted by: Thinking | June 22, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Why do any of us question either one of these people running for pres, we want a voice right? Get off the computer and go out side and yell really louder. We would all get more response. No one is listening on here. Their just laughing
Posted by: Thomas | June 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
And I’ll NEVER vote for him.
Posted by: brigitte | June 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Steven, really? Would it? You can see the future? You know that an oil spill would occur? You said those jobs would be lost regardless of whether ANY oil was found.
What do you propose we do about China drilling in those places? They would be in international waters and probably wouldn’t give a fig about how clean they were. How about Cuba? They are drilling too? What happens if they drill in those same places you are screaming about and make an oil spill that ruins Florida’s beaches?
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
To Sean,
There are 68 million acres of land right now under the lease of US oil companies… Most of this land has been sitting idle for over 25 years. There are no legislative hurdles for the oil companies to begin drilling today if they wanted to….The Democrats have proposed a reasonable idea called “Use it or Lose it” if they don’t want to drill on a specific piece of land, then why is the govt giving them a lease……By the way the leases are FREE…paid for by tax subsidies which are paid for by OUR tax payers with the understanding that US consumers would benefit at the pump from a more plentiful oil supply….the problem is then oil companies want to drive the prices up, even more and drilling these 68 million acres may not be in THERE business agenda………..Molacai
Posted by: molacai | June 22, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I have seen and heard and during congressional hearings that this Enron Loophole is driving the price of oil anywhere from 25-50% higher. This loop hole was provided by McCain’s adviser Gramm and lobbied for by his Charlie Black. I have not heard him speak out against this loophole. No he mentions drilling as a way to reduce the price of gas 10-20 years from now but closing this loophole has the potential of lowering the price of oil from 25-50% now. So why has he been so numb about it. Campaign Staff problems again?
Posted by: Thinking | June 22, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
molacai
Got any geology reports? For now I’ll assume you’re correct about the 68 million (got any links to back that up btw?). What do the geology reports look like? Who says there is any oil there? I have to wonder, given Democrats refusal to let us drill for any oil, if they know those areas have verylittle or no oil on them OR if the oil is so deep that it would only be cost effective to get that oil if oil cost something like $200 a barrel. See my point? Yes, their may be 68 million acres of land set aside, but unless the cost of a barrel of oil is $200 it’s not economically viable to go get it.
I have no idea if that’s true, but I hope you see my poin. I don’t think we have all the information and it’s likely that Democrats have left that little tidbit out of their talking point memo.
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
To Sean,
Wrong again,
The Gulf of Mexico is open for drilling in many areas. But it really doesn’t matter who the oil spill comes from . It would be a ecological disaster regardless. That is a chance that the Texas GOP are willing to risk to cater to the oil companies but more intelligent politicians have decided in other states to act responsibly and ban off shore drilling…..Thanks for your comparison of the Texas delegation to Cuba and China though …. Molacai
Posted by: molacai | June 22, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
@Sean,
I see your point. Also what does the price have to be to drill off shore? Seen any reports? Will they even drill off shore? Or do they just want to hold the lease? Also on This Week on ABC this morning that Oil executive said that there wasn’t enough riggs top drill that land. So what is the tyruth here?
What I know is that this off shore is esitmated to have 3% of the worlds reserve.It will last 3 years at the current US conumption. That means at the current US consumption we are using 1% of the worlds reserve a year. So we run out in 100 years if only the US is using oil. so what time do we have, 50 years?
Then what?
Posted by: Thinking | June 22, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Obama does a whole lotta criticizing for someone who hasn’t been around long enought to have a track record, serve in the military, grow up in the country he’s trying to lead. He’s audacious that’s for sure.
Posted by: danni | June 22, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Obama – blah…blah..blah… DRILL HERE DRILL NOW!!! and just stop all the bs. Your plan of taxing the oil companies just going to increase the price for the consumers. What on earth is wrong with drill off shore?? The chinese and cubans are drilling 60miles away right now!!! You said even if we drill, it won’t produce anything 3, 5 years now. So you chose to do nothing?? At least if you start now, 3, 5 years we’ll have our own oil. What exactly is your motive of not drilling?? especially off shore when other countries are doing it.
Posted by: hannah | June 22, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
I’m in finance. What we are trying to do is bring mid size and smaller outfits to the table to start competing for the oil and gas. While there are a lot of leases out there, a lot of it remains unexplored and probably will. The idea of opening up off-shore will allow us to go after proven reserves that are there for the taking. If we don’t the Chinese and Cubans are going to start drilling where ever they want as long it is outside in internationl waters. This isn’t going to cause an instant savings for us, but we have to get started somewhere. We need to employ every possibility known to man to come anywhere close to being energy independent with-in the next 25-30 years. If we had started 10 years ago, when this came up we would be a lot farther along than we are now.
Posted by: James France | June 22, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Sean — we are dealing with the facts, and that is that with all the drilling off the coast of california, and florida, we may NOT find a thing, and that we should be drilling the 70% of the land the oil has sitting idle, and find oil there first. And we must also face the facts that the amount of oil left to be found is not going to sustain us forever, and so we need to be looking into other sources of developing fuel, such as ethanol, and biofuels, and we should also be developing the cars, and other technology which use these news biofuels.
Posted by: SARAH | June 22, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
There sure are a lot of oil experts posting here. Just like Obama who knows it all, just ask him. For all of you who think he can walk on water well he can’t. The Democrats solution to the oil crisis is higher prices so we use less and let the economy go to hell, then they can implement more socialist practices on us. We need to develop all the oil we have and believe it or not we have huge supplies where we are not allowed to explore. We are the only country that has vast reserves that are not using it. What exactly are these mysterious alternative fuels any way, the Demos can’t tell you because we don’t have the capacity to produce them or they flat don’t exist. They are producing hydrogen from Menthanol which comes from oil corn is a poor substitute it uses a lot of energy to produce so what are these fuels? We need to devop Oil Shale, Clean burning Coal, Nuclear power drill off shore and drill in the lower 48. Wake Up America Obama is full of it McCain 08
Posted by: john | June 22, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
I know where some of that 70% of untapped land is located that the oil companies have not yet drilled. My house and the land I own are sitting on top of it. I own the land but as part of the ownership I do not have the rights to any oil underneath my property. The same is true for my neighbors. Statistics and details seem to be enemies.
The bigger question is: What is the impact of the recently activated domestic oil rigs pulling more oil out of the ground? The rigs in Colorado are running again after sitting idle for the last eight to ten years.
Posted by: baldflyboy | June 22, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Sarah, for the most part I agree with you. Now perhaps you can tell me what the geology reports from that 70% indicate? How many miles deep is that oil? Is there oil? How much would a barrel of oil cost to make it economically viable to get that oil off that land?
Exxon Mobil is not a charity. If it costs them more to get the oil than they can get on the market, what sane business person would do that? I hope you see MY point. Simply because some Democrat congressman tells you that 70% of the leased land is not being drilled does not mean much without more information. WHAT DO THE GEOLOGY REPORTS INDICATE? How much would a barrel of oil have to cost to make it economically worth it to drill for that oil?
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Gramm is also partly responsible for the mortgage collapse and lobbies for foreign banks. His wife is a former Enron executive who oversaw the collapse of the company and subsequent pillaging of the pension fund. Gramm deserves a close and careful vetting. Want more of the same?
Posted by: Joe From Kokomo | June 22, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
The fact is that it is not about Republicans or Democrats, it’s about what is the best way for America to get out of the misery it is in. If a Democrat was in power and we were in the mess we are in, and the Democratic candidate was advocating the same path, then he should be defeated and run out of town. Likewise, since we have a Republican President, and the Republican candidate was advocating the same program that got us into the misery we are in today, then he should not be elected to continue a failed program and policy. We have to think as Americans first, who are in a heck of a mess that needs to change, not to continute down this road of self destruction. McCain simply is too much of what we now have which simply translate into more misery. Don’t just vote the “party line”, vote because you want to go in another direction, not the same pathetic one.
Posted by: Jake | June 22, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
danni — you mean people who have been around like McCain, and sat on his ass doing nothing for decades, except lining their pockets with lobbyist money. John McCain, is a lazy, greedy dinosaurs who for years have been doing NOTHING to solve the problems we have in this country. John McCain was more interested in lining their pockets with lobbyist money from big business including from oil companies, than actually doing anything to solve the issues of gas, and the many other issues we have like crumbling infrastructure all over our country, bridges which are collapsing because of neglect, which has been unattended to for many years. John McCain sat for decades and watched while millions of millions of jobs were outsourced, and our manufacturing industry disappear, ALL that time, John McCain sat in government doing NOTHING, but of course he made sure to collect his money from big business lobbyist.
At least we have in Obama someone who is not lazy and sitting back, what we see is someone who wants to start tackling the problems which have been piling up for decades and decades because of lazy dinosaurs like John McCain. I mean John McCain is such a dinosaur, he does NOT even know how to use a computer! How long has computers been in existence for goodness sakes.
Posted by: Kevin | June 22, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Sean and the right wingers refuse to accept the fact that there are 68 million acres of land the oil companies have been given free lease to “mineral rights” if you want to call it that.,, but the right wingers will tell you that drilling is “safe” of shore citing only “a few major spills” …… Message to the electorate….there are no major spills on land leases…Molacai
Posted by: Molacai | June 22, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Once again Senator Obama is 100% correct. Not only have fuel prices been driven by speculators due to loopholes he speaks of, but have also been driven by lower than normal refinery utilization. If you follow the trends from the Energy Information Administration, in their column “This week in Petroleum”, they will show you this information. Basically they tell you supply hasn’t been the problem, but refineries also haven’t produced as much gasoline as they possibly could. The reason is distillate prices have been commanding a higher price on the market than gasoline. Therefore they have been refining more crude into distillates. The refining capacity has been holding at an average of 84.7%. What this means for consumers is they have you where they want you. If they produced at 100% capacity what would happen? Supply of distillate and gasoline would grow and drive down the prices on the wholesale price market. As long as the oil companies have plenty of crude and the ability to determine output in the unregulated market, consumers will continue to be fleeced. The rhetoric spewed by John McCain shows an unbelievable lack of understanding not only of the energy situation, but economics as well. His insistance to start leasing and drilling the COS/ANWAR and his statement that it would provide relief in the “SHORT TERM”, is either incredibly stupid, or a very poor attempt to pull the wool over voters intelligence. First of all the leasing process would take most of six years, then exploration has to happen before any actual drilling could begin. Once begun a means has to be available to transport and that means is not available, either by pipeline or ship. A pipeline or more ships would have to be built. Once all this is accomplished, the consensus of all of today’s expert’s in the petroleum industry, the one’s not connected to any political party, estimate that it would provide approximately 3% more U.S. crude, if even that by 2030. Using their figures and today’s price, it would mean perhaps as much as a six (6) cent drop in the price of gasoline. Obama is correct, the most immediate method of affecting price is by closing the loopholes the oil companies have been able to take advantage of and the loopholes the traders have been able to take advantage of. My God, do you realize the top 25 traders took home an average of $823 million each in 2007. The top one, John Paulson, an ex-Enron trader took home $3.9 BILLION. Don’t believe me, do a Google. Use your typing energy for something other than putting BS you know nothing about all over the internet.
Posted by: devilkev | June 22, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
I hope the GOP (Gas and Oil Party) sycphants continue to support big oil… the more people learn the facts , the more disgusted they will become with the Bush energy policy and the more they will become aware of the subsidies oil companies get from our taxes….Once the sycophants realize what a can of worms this issue is, it will be too late and the Democrats will own it by 20+ points as well……Molacai
Posted by: molacai | June 22, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
And you molacai, don’t seem to get the idea that companies like Exxon Mobil are businesses. If it costs them more to get the oil than they can sell it for then why on earth would they do something so stupid?
68 million acres! 68 million acres! 68 million acres! Good grief. It’s like talking to a door.
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Obama needs to go after Phil Graham/McCain for the mortgage crises.
Posted by: Edna | June 22, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I wonder who it was that said to release the oil reserves and this was when gas wasn’t 3 bucks a gallon? I wonder if anyone out there remembers this, I do
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | June 22, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Once again, minimal information on what Obama is proposing, and if I am to believe what’s in the story, he has only one thing to suggest – closing a loophole the Democrats themselves put in. Beyond that, Obama and his handlers engage in ad hominem attacks on McCain, despite McCain’s comprehensive plan given days before. What will it take for the people to discover this naive freshman senator is not qualified to serve? What change is he proposing? Creating an administration filled with Democrats who botched the previous two elections and now see their chance to gain power? And when will the media wise up? Never?
Posted by: Jack Slaton | June 22, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
So far from the searches I have found is that the oil industry doesn’t not have the drilling capacity to utilize the oil leases it has today and yet is pushing for more leases. All I can figure is that they want these leases under favorable conditions, not that have the capacity to utilize them.
There is nothing to suggest that the oil companies would even drill off shore it if was made available to them.
There is more to this story then we know.
Posted by: Thinking | June 22, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Obama has plans which include: Obama of course will also encourage the oil companies to drill the 70% of the idle land they have sitting idly. Obama will also be developing new sources of fuel like biofuels, ethanol, as well as clean coal technology, he also said that he would consider nuclear, as well give incentives to American car companies to develop electric cars, and when it comes to clean, sustainable, renewable energy sources, Obama will also invest in solar, and wind energy, which are renewable sources of energy. Obama of course will also encourage the oil companies to drill the 70% of the idle land they have sitting idly.
Posted by: SARAH | June 22, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
LOL
“Barack Obama sides with consumers”. If that is true, why are over 60% of people in polls wanting the oil companies to start drilling now on already leased land/waters off our coast?
Obama is against any new drilling.
LOL
Posted by: Mary | June 22, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
The only solution Obama has to the oil crisis is to raise taxes on Exxon. That is what he said. How does that make us have more energy or make gasoline prices go down? I looked at Obama’s web site for details and I think Obama is rather vague & stupid. He has no new ideas and no solutions.
Posted by: Bill | June 22, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
OBAMA attacks something everyday because he dislikes America and wants to “change” it to be more like the Middle East. Remember he said we can’t live the way we’ve been use to, as the other countries do not like it. Higher taxes and higher gas prices will send the US into a depression like no one has ever seen before. Yes we need to start producing other forms of energy—we needed to do this a long time ago. You need a President that CARES about the people and keeps the economy ticking while beginning to introduce new methods of energy —we can do this because we are strong, we are Americans…but we will not be able to do this with the dictator Obama at the head of the government.
Posted by: Ann | June 22, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Thinking — the oil companies are looking out for themselves, they want to lease alot of land, not drill it, still get the huge REPUBLICAN tax cuts, because they are hoping that noone will start developing other sources of fuel, such as biofuels, and ethanol, and develop other technologies like electric cars, etc…,
What the oil companies are hoping is that the no one will start developing alternative sources like the ones I mentioned above, so the oil companies can reap the rewards of that stupidity, and get super high profits as a result.
The oil companies are playing the waiting game holding out for higher prices, and profits.
That is why the Democrats want to make sure that we are NOT just relying on oil, but also developing other sources of fuel, so that we will ALWAYS have options. So that we are not under the thumb of the oil companies, but have alternative when oil prices are too high, and will be able to have a functioning economy when the oil runs out, because it will, there is only so much available, that is why we need to make sure we are always developing oil alternative, and finding other sources of energy, and the Democrats will do that, the republicans had 8 years to get on the road to energy independence and the Republicans did absolutely NOTHING!!!
Posted by: rick | June 22, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
alright guys time to explain the 68 million acre thing. The govt has leased a lot of land to oil companies. And the oil companies have pumped oil on some of the land. But the dems keep making this argument that they have 68 million acres of land with oil.
The reason that the oil companies are not drilling on these lands is because after surveying and exploring the land they found that there is no oil or not enough oil that would make it economically feasible to drill. In addition, even if there is oil, there are a lot of legalities and permits that must be obtained prior to drilling and they must deal in court if they are challenged by any environmental groups.
Posted by: john655556 | June 22, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Thanks Thinking. I do appreciate the effort.
Still, no word on the cost. I also noticed that this was a Democrat representatives site (Nick J. Rahall II D-WV) and you’ll have to forgive me if I’m skeptical on his numbers.
I followed the links provided at his site and nary a word about the cost.
I can AGREE that they need to give up their leases if they aren’t going to drill. There’s no sense allowing them to keep them.
I also agree that we need to think about the future and find alternatives and be more diverse in our energy supplies including nuclear, hydrogen, wind, solar, and clean coal. That includes having wind farms off Cape Cod which the Kennedy’s vehemently oppose because it’ll upset their view from their seaside estate. Boo Hoo Hoo. I love how we need to have alternatives, but only as long as it doesn’t infringe on the Kennedy’s view of the ocean. Hypocrites.
Posted by: Sean | June 22, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Interesting article. Phil Grahm was paid by the oil lobbyists for the Enron Loophole. Where does Phil come from? Texas!!! On the other side, Corsine was the first state governor to support Hillary. Now, according to a New Jersey newspaper, Corsine saw Obama as a future presidental candidate when they were in a meeting years ago WHILE Obama was a Illinois State Senator. And we talk about CHANGE???
Posted by: Don | June 22, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
It’s quite OBVIOUS … BO has no actual plan to do anything…… I like how he promises to close a loophole that was already closed…. what an idiot he is……It’s Great how he is planning to UN-DO every law and executive order DEMOCRATE President SLICK Willy CLINTON signed……hehehhehehehehehehhehehehe
Posted by: Vet1973 | June 22, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Some of you need to do some research on oil leases and drilling.
Our land has been leased several times over the past 20 years. They lease an area under which they think might be oil, then send in the seismograph crews (three machines and maybe 10 men two days to go across our paltry 160 acres). Surely that’s a few hundred thousand, not counting the cost of their machinery.
They drilled a test well in the pasture next door. After a couple of months of setting up, then drilling and a million or so dollars, they hit nothing. It was another couple hundred thousand and two to three years to put that land back the way it was. The slush pit takes a long time to dry up..a year or more…then they had to fill it in and plant the grass back.
They lease a “parcel” of land…the actual acreage they think there’s oil under then several parcels around it in case they find anything. If they hit oil, if another company holds the lease on the land next to them, they’ll come in and drill at an angle to tap into the same pool. That explains a lot of the land which is leased but not drilled.
If they do hit oil, there’s another million or so to put in the pumps and the holding tanks and all the safety measures required.
Of course, there’s the problem of only so many drilling rig in existence right now. They’re booked for a year or two in advance.
There’s even more involved but perhaps it will point out this “drill for oil” demand isn’t quite as simple as some seem to believe.
Posted by: MizFW | June 22, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
McCain’s financial adviser is senator Phil Gramm. Phil Gramm is most noted for promoting the Enron Loophole, and John McCain is staunchly defending it. Closing this loophole would reduce the price of gas more than all of the offshore drilling combined.
Phil Gramm is also the primary architect of the bills leading to the Mortgage disaster.
He is on John McCain’s staff. Kinda makes you wonder what John McCain’s values are.
Posted by: Mickey | June 22, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Enron…closing the gate after all the live stock got out?? A group of greedy people who sold their stocks..took the money and ran.They left the hard working people that still worked for the company with nothing.Their pensions are gone.So they are like a lot of us…try to live off S.S. These people owned several mansions…and now they are crying because they are down to their last $10 Million dollars.SIC them Omama.
Posted by: orange cat | June 22, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Even if the oil companies wanted to start drilling tomarrow, an environmental impact study and statement would have to be approved. And on the first day of drilling, some environmental group would file a lawsuit to stop the drilling for some reason. This happened again and again for the Alaska oil line from Prudhoe Bay. These lawsuits slowed the actual completion of the line for years. And now, the caribou love the line in the winter because the snow is removed along the road next to the line and the caribou can graze on the grasses. The line did not hinder the movement of the caribou from one area to another.
The first oil was sold for less than $14 a barrel.
Posted by: Mary | June 22, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
@Sean,
Yea your right about the cost. I would suggest that the oil companies are buying up the leases not developing the lease to keep the oil off line, to drive the cost of oil higher.
If the cost of production was prohibitive we would have heard about that by now.
For coal leases there is a certain amount of time the companies have to develop the lease if they don’t they lose it. Let’s tell the oil companies the same.
Posted by: Thinking | June 22, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Barack Obama sides with “consumers” except for the “consumers” who own a BIG percentage of the so-called EVIL big oil……by way of their stocks, 401 k plans and mutual funds……
Posted by: Vet1973 | June 22, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Park your car, buy a bus ticket like the progressives want you to do. Go to work, give the Washington liars your tax money and have them give it to the Global Warming crowd in the form of carbon offsets. Then watch the Global warming big shots fly off in their high fuel consuming jets and use enough electricity to power hundreds of houses. Check out the electricity Gore uses on his mansion in Tenn. We, the people, are being taken for a ride by these clowns–McCain included! People–you better stand up and say you are mad as hell and demand oil and nuclear now and the environmentalist progressives be damned.
Posted by: rockychance | June 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Obama stood up against relieving the gasoline impact spike by temporarily suspending the federal taxes on gasoline. He is a heroic man of conviction.
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Obama, no vetting allowed, please!
We’re All a bunch of Weary Possums!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | June 22, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
This topic would be great handled in a Town Hall meeting proposed by McCain. All of the discussion would be out on the table for everyone to hear–pros and cons. Of course, Obama is afraid of that format. He doesn’t know enough to talk about it, much less debate it. Is that why he is putting out others, like Corzine and economic advisor Furman, to take the heat with those who question? McCain has worked to close the loophole. What has Obama done?
Posted by: georgia | June 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
John McCain, Consercatives, and the Right-Wing media blames Bill Clinton for the high prices of oil/gas.
Bill Clinton vetoed a bill for drilling. Yet Clinton supporters are defending John McCain.
Posted by: Vanessa | June 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Oh geez…I am sorry but I noticed alot (mostly Obama supporters) that dont have a clue about oil. Let’s start with some basics—just because oil companies hold an oil lease it does not mean that 1) that there is any oil on the property or 2) that any such oil isn’t of such poor quality (you know sour)that it is worth or able to be brought up and refined (may I suggest you research things as the Canadian Oil sands and its “oil” which a nightmare to refine or even transport to a refinery due to its thickness.)
Posted by: stockkitty101 | June 22, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Please close this loop hole ASAP, estimates say it accounts for 40% of the price at the pumps, that would take gas from roughly $4 a gallon to about $2.40 a gallon, as americans we can all use that break at the pumps.
Posted by: Get Real | June 22, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Ask McCain where the by products of the new nuclear plants will be tossed out. Look at Paducah, KY, which had an enrichment plant there for decades, run by Union Carbide. The operation created so much radioactive material that cleanup is estimated to cost more than the total income the county derived from the entire operation and no one has the money to do it, and meanwhile the streams are being polluted by radioactivity. And the parent company divested the division that owned the plant, effectively preventing the Commonwealth of KY from suing Union Carbide.
Posted by: bruce becker | June 22, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
today i saw mccain on tv telling us how prosperous our country is due to nafta agreement—i dont know where you live but this man is totally crazy—–where have all our decent paying jobs gone–i think he should join the real world–what an insult.
Posted by: rodney | June 22, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Good grief. It’s like two little toddlers arguing over “who did it.” Neither one of them are mature enough to be President. But then again, 95% of the adults in the US aren’t mature either…so I guess we’ll let the kids vote for the kids.
Our society is pathetic.
Posted by: Troy | June 22, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
all the drilling here for oil will not change anything—oil is sold on world market—-your personal gain will be o-oil companys will simply make billions more–they and the arabs are in total controll from wells to the pump.—-arabs admit to being concerned over us pushing for alternate energy as it will take money away from then and keep it in the usa— where it should be.
Posted by: rodney | June 22, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
there you go penalize the oil companys–guess what—-they will just raise the price to you to cover it.they have us right where the want us.
Posted by: rodney | June 22, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
By the way, if you don’t like what I posted, take it up with your mutual fund manager. They are doing (almost) exactly what I am saying.
Posted by: 1percenter | June 22, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Why is everyone so mad at the oil companies – they are in the business to make money, remember? Boo hoo hoo, 1percenter, they make too much. Well, tough luck, you go find it and drill it yourself. If you don’t want their oil then stop buying it or move to a country where it is nationalized.
Posted by: 1percenter | June 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
last but not least —the candidate who pushes for alternate energy such as nuclear-biofuels–solar– wind to make us independant on energy will certainly get my vote—–even if it is satan himself–we can spend billions on war for oil we certainly can invest in america–dont be a bunch of fools arguing over foolish crap it is just what they want you to do.
Posted by: rodney | June 22, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
The solution to energy crisis is the
republican plan.Drill,drill,drill ,build
nuclear plants,alternative fuel etc.
Competition,competition is the name of the game.It’s NOT a short solution to
the problem but we got to start as soon
as possible.
High gas prices are here to stay
regerdless who will win in november,
unless you break the monopoly named
OPEC……..
Posted by: Redneck | June 22, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
the fair market value on a barrel of oil is roughly $80. Close the speculation loophole and prices drop by 50% inside of 10 days. It is amazing that the writer does nothing to explore the actual issue.
Posted by: Louis | June 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Okay, so Obama and McCain are in heated agreement over this issue. They’re both senators, so let the two of them sponsor a bill and then they can both take credit. Problem solved.
Posted by: hey Scoob | June 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Scoob: Thanks for the sanity.
Posted by: 1percenter | June 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Didn’t I hear Obama and Congressional
Democrats call for the Nationalization
of the American Oil Industry on CNN,
MSNBC & FOX this week? Why the sudden
Media Silence on their declaration this
weekend. When Hitler trashed the Wiemar
Republic of Germany, wasn’t one of his
first executive orders to nationalize
the German Oil, Coal & Iron Ore sectors?
Posted by: Tom Colton | June 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
It’s strange that John McCain’s spokesperson says that McCain has worked to close this loophole. Why would he work to close a loophole in a bill that he VOTED FOR in the first place. This “Enron” amendment, otherwise known as the “Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000″, was attached to an appropriations bill that became public law 106-554. On the Senate vote record regarding this bill, McCain’s vote reads YEA!!!! Is it possible he did not read it before it’s passage? Or was he also on the take from Enron as Gramm and his wife were. Whatever the case, I don’t want anyone who pays this little attention to a bill that affects millions of individuals as a President. Nor do I want anyone who has Phil Gramm on his payroll. The more we hear about McCain the less I like. Now his French Airbus Pentagon contract has blown up in his face. I’m sure the Airbus lobbyists on his campaign team are disappointed about this.
Posted by: devilkev | June 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
John McCain has a score of zero on environmental issues. Barack Obama has a score of 96. Has it occurred to anyone that the oil crunch would be greatly decreased if we heated our homes and got our electricity from alternative sources. We need jobs in this country and green energy is one of the best available wide spread ways to get them. Obama wants to begin large scale encouragement of new green energy sources. Closed down factories could be converted to the manufacture of wind and solar energy. We have several major problems. Fuel is too costly. We need a new supply of good paying jobs. We need to begin to deal aggressively with global warming and cleaning up the planet. We can accomplish all three if we use our resources to begin manufacturing green energy. The drilling would be a spit in the bucket for our energy needs and the spit wouldn’t happen for another 7-25 years. That way would not help our long term problem at all and it would further dirty the environment. The Obama way would begin to deal with our problems much sooner and it would deal with all three issues effectively instead of one of them ineffectively. We don’t have to choose between a cleaner world and enough energy. We just have to begin and in the process we can put Americans back to work. The famed tornado ally is also one of the windiest places in the country. We could be putting all that wind and all those people to work. If we could learn to look beyond the oil habit, we could deal with our problems. If we got more of our energy from other sources, that would also have the effect of decreasing the demand and the price for oil as long as we also close speculation loopholes. At the same time we could be building cars that get higher gas mileage and further decrease our dependence on oil. Time to get smart.
Posted by: karela | June 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Obama’s position on oil could lose him the election; his ideas are nothing less than idiotic. At least Old Man McCain KNOWS we must drill and pump OUR OWN oil, and rely less on our enemies.
Unfortunately, McCain still thinks we must “protect” the 1% of the ANWR which would be drilled. That area is as desolate as the surface of Mars.
Posted by: Rhys | June 23, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Speculation is definitly one of the reasons the price of gas remains high.
McCain had already said he was against this and would work on it before Obama addressed this priority problem.
McCain also suggested that drlling for oil on this this hemisphere and our shores be encouraged…. and further verabally supported the idea that this drilling be kept under the regime of the states rather than the federal government…
LITTLE SIR ECHO…….
PATRIOTISM BEFORE PLAGIARISM….
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN | June 23, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
devilkev | Jun 22, 2008 11:36:08 PM::
That bill was written eight years ago.
Obama changes his mind daily… and his followers accept this
Why would other people be amiss if, over time, they should change THEIR minds?…especially with the intervention of eight years?
Posted by: lend an ear... | June 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Once Again We Hear From
Obama the Fraud!
“For the past years, our energy policy in this country has been simply to let the special interests have their way — opening up loopholes for the oil companies and speculators so that they could reap record profits while the rest of us pay $4 a gallon,” Obama, D-Ill., said in a statement.
Sorry Barack but the price of gas has
gone up to $4 a gallon in the past
two years!
You know the past two years since
the Do-Nothing Democrats took control
of Congress!
Nice try, Barack, but we’re Not as
Dumb as You Think We Are!
No You Can’t!
Posted by: reaganfan | June 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
I am a lifelong passionate Democrat- But I will not get caught up in the hot air balloon of Barack Obama and his maniacal Robot fans.
Obama stole ideas from Hillary during the primary after trashing her with the help of the MSM and now does the same with John McCain.
Obama is just an empty suit that the DNC fixed the nomination for- Hillary should have been our next President if the DNC played it fair- Obama should sink or swim by himself- this Dem donor will not give him a dime or my vote
Posted by: Ilovemycntry | June 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
But what MUST be done… and quickly… is to protect oil from speculators!
Raising taxes on the Big Oil Companies … only makes them increase their prices…. and the stockholders are makeing peanuts,… trust me!
(Of Course, no C E O needs an annual salary of billions…..)
But the speculators are the ones who are playing us like a fiddle with a squeaky string… and THEY… have got to go!
Unfortunately, Lisa TT, the Oil companies do NOT have a secret room in which they are hiding a special source of fuel which will be released only if B O wins the election…..
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY.
…. AND I wouldn’t trade a war hero who said “I did not realize how much I loved my country until I didn’t have her”, for a senator who warmed his seat only long enough to find the bathroom and vote “present” ….
how many times?
Posted by: lend an ear... | June 23, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
lend an ear: the 2008 Farm bill just passed by the Senate contained an amendment to close the “Enron Loophole”. John McCain did not attend that vote, furthermore he is on record in favor of veto of the legislation prior to the veto override. I have not yet read the entire Farm bill as of yet, which I will, but evidently there is still doubt whether the amendment to close H.R.5560 did the job completely. I believe it has something to do with comparable futures trading on the NYMEX. There is a forth coming report from CFTC from a June 10th meeting that I have yet to review. This may be what Senator Obama is speaking of, however it still does not negate the fact that if indeed McCain were concerned about this issue, he would have supported the Farm bill, or at least shown up for debate.
Posted by: devilkev | June 23, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
After the gas crunch in the 70′s you would think somebody would have thought about the future. If they did we wouldn’t be in this mess.
How can he criticize McCain for the same thing he has done nothing about? Oh that’s right he doesn’t have a resume of any sort, I forgot.
Posted by: J | June 23, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
McCain’s Enron ties:
McCain, like Gramm, has been a supporter of the “Enron Loophole” that allowed Amaranth Advisors hedge fund, a commodities futures trading company, to attempt in 2006 to corner the natural gas market, a criminal violation for which the fund was recently handed a $300 million fine.
McCain also has a direct connection with Enron, having received money in campaign contributions from Ken Lay’s Death Star. “We’re all tainted by the millions and millions of dollars that were contributed by Enron executives,” John McCain told CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday. McCain then acknowledged receiving $9,500 from Enron in two campaigns. Link Gramm’s wife, Wendy, was on the Enron Board of Directors, and Gramm was the architect of much of the “reform” while he chaired the Senate Banking Committee, including a move to exempt electronic trading of electricity from regulatory oversight. According to Time Magazine, Gramm and his wife were at the forefront of many of the illicit practices that led to the firm’s massive rip-offs and ultimate collapse.
Posted by: McEnron | June 23, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
McCain’s policies are nearly identical to George Bush’s. Tax the middle class, and give tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations. Promote increasing use of oil – foreign oil. Continuation of a war that should never have been started. A war for what? More oil, and to force a democracy onto an arab nation.
We don’t need 4 more years of Bush. Defeat McSame in ’08.
Posted by: Scott | June 23, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am
Fox News just did a commentary saying the closing of the Enron loophole that Obama is talking about is just a copy of the same thing McCain proposed months ago.
Posted by: Mickey
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How dare you suggest Obama is copying McCain’s proposals. ( He did it all through the primary with Clinton. Nothing new here.)
Posted by: J | June 23, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
Obama is a risky and radical candidate.
He ought to step down and stop with the conning comments.
He is so embarrassing.
Posted by: Al from NJ | June 23, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am
Lol…just because oil companies own a lease on some land…IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE LAND HAS OIL OR THAT THE OIL IS ABLE TO BE BROUGHT UP AND REFINED.
Posted by: stockkitty101 | June 23, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Interesting article – it shows both sides are bad. Phil Grahm sponsored the “Enron Loophole”, a friend of McCain. Grahm is from Texas (Surprise).
Corzine was the first state governor to support Hillary. Last Sunday’s paper in New Jersey quoted that he (Corzine) recognized Obama years ago while attending a meeting when Obama was still in state government. What a group we have to choose from.
Posted by: Don | June 23, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Corzine comes from a state who’s government is so corrupt that people are leaving in droves. The state is billions of dollars in debt. The NJEA (NJ extortian association) or the teachers union, just milks the state for money. And then they take a break every Nov to have a paid vacation in Atlantic City. That’s the type of govt we need ?
Posted by: EnoughAlready | June 23, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
The two OIL men in the White house are the cause of all our oil problems.
McCain has vowed to join them in pushing gas to $200 a barrel.
Posted by: Sue | June 23, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Enjoy more PAIN vote McCain…Bush LOVES McCain.
Posted by: louiedog | June 23, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
If both mccain and obama are against this loophole, and they are both still senators, why don’t they work together and get rid of this loophole instead of posturing..
Posted by: lord of war | June 23, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
It’s unfortunate that no one on this panel has bothered to mention the Inconvenient Truth. That the worlds oil appetite currently exceeds remaining supply. Without huge price increases at the pump no one in America would willingly stop mass wasting/consumption of gas. We’ve been warned by the scientific community for decades now, but was anyone listening? The automakers continued to produce ever thirstier cars and trucks for the American consumer. And the American consumer bought them up as fast as they could be produced. We’ve bought ever larger homes that consume increasingly gargantuan amounts of power. Filled those homes with even thirstier still appliances and equipment. And of course no American dream would be complete if it all wasn’t located 40 miles from our jobs. Its time to face the music people, and unfortunately its changed rather abruptly in the middle of a gas-oholics fervor we’ve been hazing through since the late 70′s. What the consumer has refused to do voluntarily, government is now doing for us. Doesn’t feel so good does it? Make no mistake about it, government has allowed the environment that currently exists to continue because government can’t figure out another way to get the American consumer to cut back on oil consumption. We’re our own worst enemy on this one. And when the last affordable drop of oil is pumped out of the ground 30 years from now we’d better be well on our way to having restructured our lifestyles and our economy to one based upon renewable energy or the America we’ve come to recognize will cease to exist. Just a warning for anyone who cares to listen. A little reminder from the future, not the Twilight Zone.
Posted by: UoosierBrain | June 23, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Sid, the media seems to have been bought and paid for by Obama, and the DNC too. The campaign outlook is continued BHO propaganda machine with the media as his puppet. There is no equal time anymore, just BHO time. I guess we need to write the news advertisers that we won’t purchase their products. As SNL says, ‘totally in the tank for BHO’. I’m registered Democrat but will vote GOP 2008, we can’t afford an inexperienced candidate in the top job.
Posted by: Sally | June 23, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Mc cain said : I;m willing to listen to new ideas .How about this one keep your car or pick up take out the gas hog engine we don;t need more cars to buy Install a air compressor & air tank small generator make your own power for air compressor When i was just a boy in the 30s Trolly cars run on air and made extra air with lots of power No new invention Just a few revisions
Posted by: donsilagy | June 23, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
listen to new ideas .How about this one keep your car or pick up take out the gas hog engine we don;t need more cars to buy Install a air compressor & air tank small generator make your own power for air compressor When i was just a boy in the 30s Trolly cars run on air and made extra air with lots of power No new invention Just a few revisions
Posted by: donsilagy | June 23, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
This whole debate is soo worthless. The problem isn’t the price of oil, it’s the scarcity of refinery capacity. Until we get that through our collective consciousness, this debate will be about nothing.
Posted by: John in Missouri | June 23, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
poster says, “Now, could someone tell me how much oil is on those lands that Democrats will allow the oil companies to drill on? What do the experts say? Not what a Democratic operative or politician says. What do the geologists say?”
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I can’t answer the question as to how much oil is there but doesn’t common sense tell us they wouldn’t be issueing drilling permits for land where there was no oil? That would be kind of dumb wouldn’t it? Now I have no doubt the govt might be that stupid but the oil companies wouldn’t waste their time pursuing permits where there was no benefit.
Posted by: dk | June 24, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
I refer to Barack as a political demostrator who doesnt know the importance of oil drilling. Why arent those billions of dollars used for a person that can make an energy efficient, non gas-using machine for cars and get a solution that way, instead of drilling that is?
Posted by: Aisha | September 16, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
I PREFER HILLARY AS A RUNNER!!!!
too bad she is out of the race. : (
Posted by: PR!d | September 16, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm