Obama Calls for More Responsibility from Fathers at Church Speech

Jj– I also suggest the same for McCain. Let’s try to dry the wells of each candidate and see which one goes first.
Or how about we do neither and stop the stupid games (Operation chaos anyone?) and try to have an honest debate.
It’s silly to me that the Republicans used to talk about honor and dignity so much but when it comes to the very democratic principles that this country is founded on (Yes I know it’s a republic but a republic can be a form of a democracy, cross off talk point #2)they seem ready to play games with it.
Let’s all try to grow up and have an honest discussion.

SOODD: Same old Obama, different day!

Obama: “Present”.

Obama: “That’s not the that I knew.”.

And what about being responsible NOW??? He has abdicated his fatherly duties to his childrens’ grandmother…..who is this joker kidding??????
Talk about calling the kettle black!!!
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Say what? This is prime example of the failure of “No Child Left behind”

Obama: “Why, I never ever heard my mentor say a single hateful word in 20 years!”

Thinking – chortle, chortle!

Thinking, you are right for once, glad to see that you at least pay attension.

Michele is right Obama is getting away with something, running for president.

Obama limped his way to the Democratic nomination.
The DNC rules committee gave the nomination to Obama.
Hillary supporters won’t forget how badly they were treated by Obama supporters.
You reap what you sow.

Obama limped his way to the Democratic nomination.
The DNC rules committee gave the nomination to Obama.
Hillary supporters won’t forget how badly they were treated by Obama supporters.
You reap what you sow.
Posted by: Stephanie | Jun 15, 2008 5:11:18 PM
Stephanie, you are right about one thing. You reap what you sow. This is exactly what the republicans will find out on November 4, 2008. It will be pure payback for the devastation they have caused to our country.

This is a message of personal responsibility that will no doubt play well with the moderate set. He is refuting the white view of African Americans as entitled victims.

I was at the church this morning when Obama spoke. Barack was great. What he said was a support for all fathers who are doing what they are supposed to do. His message was well-received by a church that has for many years supported good family values. The pastor has been married for over 30 years. His dad (who was the pastor) has been married for nearly 60 years. They have been good fathers and grandfathers. The negative messages of these various bloggers — they just don’t know what they are talking about.

“Fathers step up to the plate”. What does that mean? Are women really willing to give up overwhelming legal advantages in courts when that man who does step up to the plate hits a home run? Meaning, that if a man is ultimately a true father, sets good examples and provides for his children and the mother by the way decides to leave for whatever personal reason, she is going to try to limit as much as possible a fathers contact with her child. And why? Because he stresses me out? He did not care for my needs, “stepping up to the plate” is trite, simplistic, inflammatory and does not acknowledge women’s 50% contribution to total failures of families. So when women refuse to acknowledge this they will remain confused, alone and bitter.

Obama will say anything. To bad, but some people believe anything.
Posted by: A | Jun 15, 2008 6:14:02 PM
Me and Mccain are guilty of that also. Take Mccain, now he is pandering to hillary supporters even though he is against everything she stands for.

Americans have plenty of beef with the republicans. The proof is coming big time this November. Don’t believe it? Just wait.

“What makes you a man is not the ability to have a child – any fool can have a child, that doesn’t make you a father – it’s the courage to raise one that makes you a father.”
Yeah, right – this coming from the man who had his daughters sitting in Trinity Church since they were babies listening to the Wrong Rev. Wright preach his own brand of religion. Absolutely the perfect person to lecture/preach to the rest of us about parental responsibility…
The Republicans must be laughing in glee about this new “talking point” of Obama’s.
PUMA – Party Unity My ***!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | Jun 15, 2008 6:36:34 PM
Which republicans are you suggesting are laughing? Is it the gay congressmen chasing tyoung male interns for sex? Is it the gay senator Larry Craig arrested for soliciting in the mens room at a rest stop in Minnesota? Is it John MccCain who cheated on his first wife with Cindy McCain his current wife? Which is it? I’m curious since we all know the republicans are the party of family values.

Talk’s cheap Obama. Where’s the beef?
Posted by: T | Jun 15, 2008 6:31:17 PM
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Americans have plenty of beef with the republicans. The proof is coming big time this November. Don’t believe it? Just wait.

I am amazed as an Independent voter how many folks will post horrific smears against Obama AS IF their OWN (McCain or Hillary) candidate could not be bombarded with the same rhetoric.
Anti- Obama posters bring up the same repititous remarks, while the Obama supporters defend their candidate.
Hc & MC supporters are quite hypocritical.
I live in FL, nothing was “stolen”.
EVERY Democrat knew the rules before this election, and if they didn’t like them, they should have been political activist LONG before now.
I don’t live in Michigan, so I won’t speak for them.
This election cycle has shown me how truly ignorant and self centered so many Americans are.
Guess what, this Independent voter in Florida, is voting…
OBAMA
OBAMA
OBAMA
YUP, I drank 42 pitchers of BLUE Kool-AID and I’m damn proud of it.

McCain and church are a scary combination.
Where were Rev. Hagee and Rev. Paisley?

Truth is there are some idiots that would be upset with Obama even if he said babies are cute. That’s what it has come too since they have no real issues to debate against him. Such is the brain dead opposition.

A Very Important Statement-
QUIT using Obama’s church against him.
I grew up in Philly, then moved to Texas. I know FIRSTHAND that racist things have been said and done in churches across this country.
“America chickens coming home to roost”, well let me tell all you folks who decided in the last 2 years to be political news junkies… We have done things that are not so nice across this globe. Didi you expect the mainstram media folks to just broadcast that on your nightly news?
Those of us that read NUMEROUS papers, from NUMEROUS countries and have for MANY YEARS know the context of Rev. Wright.
My grampy is a Vietnam Vet, I got my investigation skills from him. (Special Ops Marine, might I add) Even he says the Reps are so full of horse manure these days, it makes him sick. He knows the racism of this country, and he says some of the black men he fought with were the must humble and sincere of all in Vietnam.
It aggravates he and I when we read these blogs and see such horrific comments because they came from a black man in a “black” church.
grampy doesn’t understand that I’ll get censored and deleted if I type what he says. Let me tell you, he has never had a problem with a MAN or a WOMAN being a president, but he does have a problem with another Republican president.
Grampy sees racism as the bottom line in many of these posts and it ###### him off- he did not fight for freedom to read these things from the folks who live in the country he fought to protect.
Let your disrespect show… The more he reads, the more of his Vietnam vet buddies we recruit to vote for Obama.
(My grampy is smiling, but still aggravated I couldn’t type exctly what he said…. ( he doesn’t get the whole jist of being deleted yet, he just says “Well, why would they do that, it’s free speech!”
Obama 08

Why is Obama giving this message to only African American fathers? Dead Beat dads come in all colors.

Posted by: Anne | Jun 15, 2008 6:22:37 PM
Should ABSENT White, Latino, Asian, etc, men or women, be called out by Presidential Nominee Obama?
Would you listen if he was talking directly to you? I think not. You are so smart that you would think that you are being talked down to? Are you White, Latino, Asian, etc? Were you in that congregation today?
If you would, would not, are, were then your comments may be acceptable.
AdvantageObama ’08
Posted by: AdvantageObama | Jun 15, 2008 8:32:16 PM
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That’s the idiocy of it all. Obama was addressing a black congregation of a community that has issues of fatherhood more acute than other communities. Yet some idiots want to use that against him, truly lower than stupid and only shows you have no real issues to debate.

I’m proud of America. This country is included all races such as White,Black and Asian, Hispanic, etc… We’re all American and American President must serve for the country, not party, not any race. Sen Obama just had a speech for African American fathers !!!

LOVE BARACK! HE IS DESTINED TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY! HIS POSITIVE MESSAGES OF HOPE WILL TRIUMPH OVER ALL THESE NEGATIVE AND JADED MESSAGES OF HATE.
IT’S ABOUT FREAKIN TIME!
OBAMA 08!

Amy,
Sen Obama’s slogan is “CHANGE”. So, what will he change? WHITE GROUP will become BLACK GROUP. What’s a difference?

After 8 years of having a President who can’t string together a coherent sentence, it creates fear and confusion in bigots to have a black candidate who’s so eloquent. Calm your fears. Obama means you no harm. All boats will rise with his tide.

People
I’m sure that someone in the government would know if BO wasn’t qualified to be president of the US because of his citizenship. He wouldn’t be the prresumptive nominee because the Democratic Party would lose again. Some of you think that you are so smart trying to come up with something someone would know. So this leaves a smear attack to get uninformed people to waste time considering nonsense instead of issues. It also leaves a massive government cover-up by the government.
Another point. I nave been reading these comments for several weeks now. It seems like there alot of false information being spread. Lastly, if you don’t know what BO is about go to his website.

Amy,
I respect all Presidential candidates. I asked some African American “why do you like Sen Obama?” Most of them have the same answer is because he’s first Afican American presidential candidate.
For me, that’s not the answer. I’m NOT WHITE, but I want to be sure why I vote for him, not because he’s first African Presidential candidate. That’s my point.
Posted by: Alex | Jun 15, 2008 10:56:04 PM
I’m sure many Hillary supporters were voting for her because she’s a woman. I’m also sure that many of McCain supporters are voting for him because he’s a white guy. But have you asked any supporters of Hillary or McCain why they support them? The thing is, people support candidates for a variety of reasons, but even if the reason seems trivial doesn’t mean the candidate isn’t qualified. But it appears that you believe only Obama deserves that level of scrutiny. I personally think McCain is itching to be president to avenge being a POW in Viet Nam. This is his way of getting back at countries we have military conflicts with.

Bush & Chaney are idiots. We all know that.
Obama talks about CHANGE. What is his 5 big legislative accomplishments.
If Obama supporters can list them, Saint Obama may get my vote.
Tell me 2 bills he voted against his own party.

So now Obama wants to pay for fulfilling ones obligations? What about rewarding all of us and taking off taxes on labor???
(He forgot that Bush already got rid off marriage tax penalty).

More responsibility….
So when is Obama going to start taking responsibility for some of his own actions? Like some of the company he has kept over the last couple of decades??
“Oh, that’s not the Reverend Wright I knew….”
“Oh, that’s not the Tony I knew…….”
“Oh, that’s not the Father Pfleger I knew…………”
And the biggest one yet to come:
It’s all Hillary’s fault that I didn’t win the election…………………
I think this man needs to start owning up to some of his own shortcomings before he starts handing out advice to others about accepting responsibility…

Answer #1: If that’s the type of church/pastor it/he is/was, why did he sit there for 20 years and take guidance from this “hurtful” man for 20 years? (If you’re going to turn this around and blame it on the Reverend, I guess you have a problem with accepting responsibility as well)
Answer #2: His statement regarding Father Pfleger was made in 2004 or thereabouts, when he claimed that he was one of his top three spiritual advisers, and “the keeper of his moral compass.” And exactly what truth is it you’re trying to say was eminating from this man of the cloth’s mouth on that Sunday morning at Trinity? Whether it was true or not, I feel safe to say, would be a matter of opinion, as I don’t ever remember Senator Clinton saying she was “entitled” to anything because she was white.
Answer #3: As for regretting the house deal, I notice he is still living there. Seems a little strange because for some reason he felt the need to donate the campaign fundraising dollars that Rezko provided him to charity.
I don’t recall mentioning or promoting McCain at all in my post above, but if you feel the need to defend Obama by doing so yourself, be my guest……..

When Obama stands there in his first big “race” sppech and says this man has been his “spiritual advisor,” “father figure,” and “mentor” for 20 years, it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out that words like that mean Obama looked to this man for guidance, support and advice. Does not the word “Mentor” in and of itself mean someone you wish to emulate????? So how can you expect anyone to believe that he never “likened” himself or his views to Wright’s. Please get over your brainwashing long enough to figure that one out.
And as for #2, I’ve heard these points made so often I’m tired of hearing them myself, but what does entitlement have to do with Hillary saying she does better with white, blue collar voters in Kentucky and West Virginia? How often have I heard Obama’s people say how much of the African-American votes he receives, so doesn’t that indicate a belief on their part that he is “entitled” to their votes because he is part A-A? Race is a two-way street, and goes both ways.
And I really don’t care what he does with his house, I just said it was strange he didn’t feel the need to unload the house like he did Rezko’s campaign donations. But I wouldn’t be rolling up the moving van just yet if I were Obama.

Kerry,
Give it up; your statement is absurd

Senator Obama is only going to attract far left leaders and kids of the Democratic Party.
He is not the norm. What American is truly proud of Obama. He has no military record nor does he mention the proud soldiers of our country.
For him to approach anyone that is a proud American will be difficult.
Obama is not the “typical” American guy.
He didn’t win this primary election fairly that is for sure and will most likely not win the general election in November.
Americans have seen his poor campaign tactics, his associations and his silencing voters in Florida and Michigan. Millions of Americans are not going to forget Rev. Wright’s vicious attacks on whites and Senator Clinton. Millions will not forget the rally of Nation of Islam leaders held by Louis Farrakhan with over 20,000 Muslims attending. Rezko and Father Pflager, one a criminal and one a racists, will not be overlooked either. Florida and Michigan voters are completely disgusted with Obama and his ignoring their voices.
What American can truly be proud of Obama?
His VP will have to defend Wright, Rezko and Father Pflager on the stage with him.
Democrats have been jumping ship but the media isn’t covering it properly.
I don’t think that I am the only one completely embarrassed of Obama as the Democratic nominee.
Lastly, Obama will lose this election because no one really knows about the “elephant in the voting booth” : the impact of race.There will never be accurate polls until the day of the election.
Women are not being honest, kids won’t show up and the race factor is an unknown.
Obama will loose by a land slide.
Wake up America!

AL from Nj and Rick from PA…..you make interesting comments. Rather difficult to retort not knowing your life story. A skewed perception can sometimes be bourne out of one experiences in life or sometimes deliberately….not sure which one is applicable. As I have followed the US election very closely for the first time as an outsider…the revealed American psyche has been the most troubling revelation to me. How divorced it is from the reality of the world we live in and almost narrowed down to the neighbourhood street, or a few blocks at the most. Reminds me of the Crucible by Arthur Miller.

This guy continues to amaze me. He doesn’t shy away from issues that amy be unpopular. I predict that Obama will go down in history as one of the best presidents of all time. Something this country needs after having the worst president of all time. Obama 2008!!!

Rick from PA raised some interesting questions. I would like to hear those answers as well as many other people. Those questions seems to be quite easy to answer on the surface. Why won’t Obama answer them???
It is also amazing how Obama Supporters try to shut down people by calling names and insulting them when pertinent issues/questions are raised. Not so fast, buckeroos – we have a right to those answers and we will keep asking them until Obama man up and answer them. lol.
PUMA – Party Unity My ***!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08

The media went nuts over a bookcase “cross” behind Huckabee. Obam the false Messiah offends true Christians with that photo op.

As for registering young and black voters, the key is to get them to vote.
Registration, as proven in past elections, does not necessarily represent votes that will be cast.
Right now, voters who are over 50 represent about 51% of those who will vote in the next election.
Hence, we who are over 50 will elect the next President, not the youth or the black voters.
So, Obama supporters, keep pounding at John McCain’s age in a detrimental and disrespectful manner.
We are listening.
We are already registered.
And, we vote.

Marie,
While I have heard reference from the McCain camp about Obama’s inexperience versus that of McCain, I don’t recall Obama’s age being specifically targeted as a point of concern.
My point was that continual reference to John McCain’s age will prove to be a mistake by Obama supporters as it will be labeled as age discrimination and unify voters over 50.
And, while I am an “independent” and do not necessarily support John McCain or many of his positions, I will most certainly vote against Barack Obama as I disagree with virtually all of his positions.
The same old dilemma…vote for bad or worse…

and if a white person had “joked”a bout Obama replacing the bowling alley with a basekball court?

No disrespect to Hillary Clinton supporters but why are they still making the point of being her supporters. This post is about Obama and the race is between Obama and McCain, we all know that anybody who is still supporting Hillary is not going to vote for Obama and I think most people are tired of this bickering. I think that Hillary supporters at this point should just vote for john or not vote at all, whatever they choose. I think its clear this revolution thing against Obama is not going to work, with a supposed 18 million supporters there is no way she can or should be broke. This is gop run, they are pulling the strings on this and it wont work. This post was about Obama in the church not even about the campaign so why would a Clinton supporter be on here wasted space asking questions that they know the answer does not matter one bit. Why dont you guys run a post for petition to help pay her pay the million she owes to Mark Penn. I just dont get what is the point , what do you want from him , a lot of her supporters wanted him burned alive from the start and not they pretend that he has to answer questions and they will somehow make an fair and impartial judgment about voting for him yeah right.

Oh, yeah, sure. This is this phony hypocrite’s logic: He sells the Dreams of His Fathers. His father abandoned his family, and this the kind of dreams he has been telling people. Now, it is convenient for his political ambition, he wants black fathers stay in their families. You cannot have both ways, phony. Retract that phony story you have been selling, and give back the $4 million dollars you have made, last year alone, by selling a lie.

if Obama is talking about a new electoral map without Ohio and Florida there is big trouble for you liberals come November.

Once again, he is very good at pointing out what is wrong, without any real solutions to fix it. Same old garbage.

Olbermn3 you and whoever you are talking about could not get Hillary to be the democratic nominee let alone out of debt and not your movement think you guys can band together get Obama out of office and then elect who you want next time around. With all due respect, I think Mrs. Clinton would have made a better president than McCain and no matter who would have won I would have voted democratic but not your movement you people knew from the start it was all or broke and knew months ago you were going to do your best and destroy the democrats. There are people a lot smarter and on the government payroll who knows how to play you and your group and thats exactly what they are doing, just your buddy rush telling his republican supporters to vote for Hillary. Your group and movement will insure that they screen candidates backers before they endorsed and how scared do you think either party will be before they endorsed another women anytime soon. This movement, puma thing, or whatever new name you guys come up with it is the work of high schoolers who didnt make the team. To teach Obama supporters a lesson you vote for McCann and side with the gop , to make things worse you guys first blackmail then threaten and then go all over TV to brag about it. Your movement will only prove what they were saying about Hillary months ago in that she was willing to destroy the party in her quest for president and the damage to her reputation will go down worse than anything you guys can dream against Obama. Pick a side as you have already done and leave it at that, why stick and thumb your noses at the world like kids because you dont get what you want.

I like Obama’s Father’s Day message….he is a true father to his daughters….I travel a lot for my job and I have a Family Value with my wife, sisters, brothers, and in-laws and we help each others that’s what family value is all about…Go Obama

Only Obama can give his Father’s Day message to blacks, if a white one gave this speech, it will be racism.

Who is Hillary Clinton?
huh?
exactly.
Obama 08/12. moving on, moving forward.

Olberman
“Bho might turn out to be a terrific president, but there is no reason to believe so, or not to believe so. He is simply a blank, an uncertainty, a known unknown.”
sounds like something Donald Rumsfeld said hahahahaa
“Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”
get over it.
Obama 08. the world NEEDS change. a legion of old white men have for centuries tried this, let this young refreshing, new, revolutionary, intelligent man try. He WILL be a great president.

If Obama is president he will fix everything, he is young and refreshing,new
and revolutionary.He will be also putting up a fence on the border to keep the people in the USA,becouse people will be not comming in but will be leaving the country.

Obama lied about his muslim past. It’s time to start with the truth…
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm

One of these responses made a major point about Barack not appealing to people over 50 etc etc.So how dos he explain people like and my friends who will vote for Barack – white, hard working, middle class, 72 years old and,until now, a lifelong republican? The repubs repubs have trashed our economy, wasted our resources and engaged in a no-win war. Who wants more of that?
One other observation — someone posted that the repubs will filibuster Barack’s ideas. But, truth is, there won’t be enough repubs left to do it. LOL.

Did he steal that speech from Bill Cosby?

Why doesn’t Obama talk about his dad.
Is it because he is a Muslim?
How do the Muslims see Obama?
Do they respect him as a Muslim.
Is there anything that Americans should be worried about.
Hamas are Muslims or doesn’t that matter in the Muslim world.