Obama: ‘Looking forward to meeting with Hillary’
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shed light Monday on the conversation he had with rival Hillary Clinton Sunday. He told her they can meet whenever she’s ready.
Obama told reporters during a brief avail that when he spoke by phone with Clinton Sunday, he congratulated her on winning Puerto Rico and apologized for the controversial remarks made by Father Michael Pfleger while speaking at his former church.
"I emphasized to her what an extraordinary race that she’s run and said that there aren’t too many people who understand exactly how hard she’s been working. I’m one of ‘em because she and I have been on this same journey together, and told her that once the dust settled I was looking forward to meeting with her at a time and place of her choosing. We’ve still got two more contests to go and I’m sure that there will be further conversations after Tuesday," said Obama.
Asked if Clinton gave a specific indication as to where and when she might drop out of the nomination race, Obama said, "It was a very general conversation at this point and as I said we’ve got two more contests I think she’s focused on those as am I."
On superdelegates, Obama predicted the remaining uncommitteds will be making their decision "fairly quickly" after the final primaries in South Dakota and Montana on Tuesday.
"We feel good about the number of supderdelegates that we have been accumulating and my sense is that between Tuesday and Wednesday that we’ve got a good chance of getting the number that we need to win the nomination."
The Obama avail came after a tour of a Rite Aide distribution center in Waterford, Michigan.

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Obama has shown himself worthy to be the President of the USA! He has a lot of class, No wonder he is where he is today!!!
Great Job Obama!!!
YES WE CAN!!!!
OBAMA 08′
Posted by: IslandGirl | June 2, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
WE WILL REMEMBER !
How the Obama supporters so viciously attacked us while completely ignoring the issues. Those supporters are indicative of Obama himself.
I will never vote for such a hate filled and vile candidate who encourages such disrespect. Never.
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Come on, the superdelegates can change their mind from now to the convention and their endorsement is only as good as it is at the convention.
The number now means nothing. Another goal post is moved ahead for the convenience of BO the gutter ball.
Another make-up rule from OBAMA.
Hillary / McCain; Nobama.
Posted by: John_Lai | June 2, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Obama got 4 delegates from Michigan where the people did not vote for him; You took the voting rights away from millions in Florida and Michigan; you’ve now lowered the number so OBAMA can meet it to be the nominee; what is the point of American’s voting. You decide.
Posted by: Anne | June 2, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
They both fought long and hard. America made a choice and I think they made the right choice!
I pray that Hilllary will use her voice to unite the party, Im sure she will!
Now onward towards victory in Nov.!!
Posted by: Mark | June 2, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
The BOboy is so good at throwing out crumbs. He is a joke and a fake. May he choke up and cry when his hope and change bite him in the butt!
Never vote OBAMA. Never!
ANYONE BUT OBAMA! ANYONE!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 2, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
At least Obama had the opportunity to personally apologize for the shots Father Pfleger took at Hillary.
However, I do think Pfleger had it mostly right; Hillary did and probably even now still does feel a sense of entitlement to the nomination. But, I rather doubt that this feeling of being owed the nomination has anything to do with Obama being black.
Posted by: Lee C. ― U.S.A. | June 2, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Anne,
Im sure if Obama’s name had been on the ballot than people would have voted for him and he would have landed up with MORE than just 4 delegates from MI!
Posted by: Mark | June 2, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Lee C.
Come on now Lee….Lets not rub salt into wounds.
Posted by: Mark | June 2, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Hillary…
Grow up! You lost, so stop your crying.
Posted by: Bill | June 2, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
President McCain is going to be so happy!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Anne
Of course they did. Are you really surprised? Do you really think Hillary ever had a chance.
Posted by: S | June 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Obama’s Trinity Church has received at least $15 million in grants from the federal government — in other words, taxpayer money. How much money has your church received? Now of course, OBAMA had nothing to do with this either and knew nothing about it. There’s no way to know exactly how Trinity spent its millions in taxpayer money, since grant awards usually afford some latitude for discretionary use. We helped Wright tiny ministry to grow into a massive empire. Now remember that Rev. Wright just retired into a 10 million dollar home—
Posted by: Anne | June 2, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
“Obama’s Trinity Church has received at least $15
million in grants from the federal government — in
other words, taxpayer money. *** We helped Wright
tiny ministry to grow into a massive empire. Now
remember that Rev. Wright just retired into a 10 million
dollar home—
Anne | Jun 2, 2008 6:25:16 PM
President Bush’s “Faith Based Initiative” bearing fruit I gather?
Posted by: Lee C. ― U.S.A. | June 2, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
The audacity to be anti-American.
Posted by: Barry Obama | June 2, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Radical left-wingers are happy today that Obama is closer to changing America into “an Obama nation” (abomination), but they will be accusing most American voters of being racists on November 5, 2008, the day after the General Election, when the American Electorate rejects Obama’s attempt to become the first socialist president of the United States of America.
Sorry!, Louis Farrakahn, Michael Pfleger, and Jeremiah Wright.
Although Far Left Obama shares your radical left-wing values, most American voters do not!!!
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Never Obama!
Country first, party second.
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
It is so funny how the Clinton supporters on here throw out innuendo or angry “Mccain will win” statements
that is how you know they don’t represent most Hillary supporters.
whether you like Hillary or not… whether you like Barack or not… BaraCK HAS SPENT THIS CAMPAIGN FIGHTING TO STAY ABOVE THE FRINGE…
HE HAS
I volunteered for both campaigns…and Joe Bidens back last year during the run up for NH.
From day one the first message we heard and has continued down from the top was to not take the low road…it was not going to be that fight…
Hillary’s campaign…not so much. Even though I have veered from that on occasion because you can only take so much made up bologne… but Barack’s campaign has had that reinforced from he himself over and over…
To say otherwise is a flat out lie. It is…and anyone in the campaigns or outside but neutral can see that fairly clearly.
That is the truth. It was has hurt him much of the time but let me tell you those who support him and those slowly stepping over support him more and more because of it.
So go ahead and attack him on policy…attack him on experience… but don’t attack him for being slimey or being underhanded in the way he has played this campaign…that he is not.
Posted by: dl | June 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Can you imagine class back in the White House?
Dignity and humor
Intelligence and spirit
Diplomacy and Strength
Barack is our next POTUS
Posted by: steven f | June 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Average Joe
No, Hillary is NOT winning the popular vote, Obama has. Please look at the numbers carefully.
Posted by: Mark | June 2, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Of course, there is plenty of proof that Obama is radical left wing.
After all, Obama was named by the National Journal as the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate last year.
Obama’s mother was a Marxist.
Obama’s father was a Marxist, who wrote an article called, “Problems of Our Socialism”.
Obama admitted associating with black nationalists, socialists, and other radical left wingers when he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, California.
Obama also admists that he attended socialist conferences as an adult.
Obama sponsored the Global Poverty Act, a neo-socialist proposal to redistribute $845 billion dollars of America’s wealth to Africa and third world-countries.
The evidence goes on and on, and it also shows that Obama is supported by radical left-wingers, like Sandinista Leader Daniel Ortega, Hamas, Fidel Castro, the Black Panther Party, and others who want Obama to change America into the United Socialist States of America.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Each and every member of that church owes Hillary an apology. I’m glad at least one member, Obama, realized that, and stepped up.
I am also glad that Obama resigned. Although we all know and on some level can understand the feelings and history giving rise to Pfleger and Wright’s spew of venom, it does not excuse it. Time for folks starting with those sitting in Trinity’s pews to listen to Obama’s race speech, and realize that this temporarily gratifying but ultimately destructive practice of trashing white folks and their white government has to stop. Actually, all of us need to listen to that speech, and begin the long overdue full and frank discussion about race relations in this country.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | June 2, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Forget the Party. As a Clinton supporter, I will not vote for the Democratic nominee in Nov. no matter how much “talking” he does with Hillary and no matter how much she supports him. As far as I’m concerned, she–and her supporters–don’t owe Obama anything! I really don’t care if a Democrat is in the WH in Jan. 2009. If the country can survive 8 yrs. of Bush, it can survive 4 yrs. of McCain . . . and maybe in 2012, the Democrats will have a viable candidate.
Posted by: ruth | June 2, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
NOTHING OBAMA SAYS NOW CAN CONVINCE ME ANYTING ELSE BUT THAT HE IS A MOST SKILLFUL POLITICIAN WHOSE HYPOCRISY IS SO WELL HIDDEN BY HIS RHETORICS AND OSCAR-WINNING ACTING.
IF HE IS REALLY SINCERE IN FEELING SORRY FOR HILLARY FOR THE UGLIEST AND MOST RACIST ATTACK ON HILL, HE SHOULD HAVE SAID SO IN HIS SPEECH MADE WHEN ABANDONING HIS CHURCH.
HE MAKES THIS INSINCERE APOLOGY TO HILLARY ONLY AFTER HE HAS HEARD THE OUTCRY ABOUT THE ROTTEN TREATMENT HE HAS GIVEN TO HILLARY AFTER HER BEING ATTACKED BY HIS RABID FRIEND AND PRIEST.
NOW I JUST WANT TO THROW UP WHEN I READ THIS. HILLARY IS OUTMANUVERED LONG AGO AS SHE AND THE MEDIA WERE AND ARE STILL NO MATCH TO THE SUPREME HYPOCRISY HIDDEN BY A TOPNOTCH ACTOR.
OBAMA CAN HAVE A FABULOUS ACTING CAREER AND HE WILL WIN EVERY OSCAR IN ANY ROLE HE PLAYS, STARTING WITH THIS ONE AS THE “FRIENDLY” RIVAL OF HILL.
I HAVE TO HURRY UP TO THE BATHROOM BEFORE THROWNING UP ON MY PC.
Posted by: nauseated | June 2, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Obama’s actions for the past 20 years shows that Rookie U.S. Senator Obama shares the radical left-wing views of Jeremiah Wright.
So does Obama’s long close friendship with Radical Priest Michael Pfleger.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
OBAMA will be about 17 million votes short of the Presidency. Clinton supporters will not vote for him but will vote for McCain.
Why are obama supporters so dense they don’t see this and they keep trashing Hillary.
Oh, wait – they think it’s all about getting the nomination. They haven’t moved beyond that. I guess that’s why they’ll come in second to McCain!!
Posted by: XTRA1XTRA2 | June 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Hillary supporters are the most hateful bunch of people I have ever seen, Can we say “BITTER”
Posted by: chessmaster | June 2, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Obama should meet with his spiritual advisors Rev Wright and Rev Pfleger about what to do next. He has not won yet.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | June 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Obama will be our next president, You Republicans need to learn how to fight, Because yelling and screaming doesnt get you in the white house.
Posted by: chessmaster | June 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Obama supporters are the most radical left-wing Americans that I have ever seen!
Can we say ultra-liberal?
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
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Posted by: chessmaster | June 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
As far as Obama’s message of change, doesn’t anyone else think it’s funny that the bearer of this comes out of the state with one of the most corrupt political machines in the US–Chicago? They must believe his message because of all the changes he brought about in IL politics. Oh, that’s right, he DIDN’T bring about any substantial changes in IL politics. In fact, that’s where he learned how to “play” politics. And he’s going to bring change to Washington? Sure, he is. All he has to do is–like on his campaign–not call a lobbyist a lobbyist and, voila!, change!
Posted by: ruth | June 2, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Can we say Delusional Hillary supporters! Talk about some whacked out people!
Posted by: chessmaster | June 2, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Hillary supporters,
John McCain respects Hillary and her years of service to the nation.
We welcome your support in November if the media helps steal the nomination from Hillary!
If Obama loses the general election, Hillary’s 2012 campaign starts Nov. 5th.
Maybe we will see McCain vs Hillary in 2012 if McCain wins the general election.
Posted by: Jack | June 2, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
ruth
Obama did set a world’s record for saying ‘present’.
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I don’t like Democratic Party eletist big wigs like the superdelegates controlling who gets the nomination. I will become an Independant.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | June 2, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
We will never support Obama.
If Hillary is not the nominee, we will definitely support John McCain.
Obama has no experience & is out of touch with too many hard working Americans.
Obama is just not ready to be a good President.
Posted by: J.J. | June 2, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Compared with the stormy outcry after Ferrero said that voting was racially orientated, the reaction to this disgustingly racist and divisive attack on Hillary is nothing but a murmur.
Obama’s skill is superb in diverting attention from himself. He did not criticize his friend and priest but instead flatter the American public saying that American public wants unity.
American public may not be able to detect this supreme hypocrisy behind the flattery, leaders and people in other nations can. I don’t think a hypocritical leader can go very far when dealing with foreign countries.
Posted by: nobrainer | June 2, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hit the road Jack and dontcha come back no more no more!
The only ones that are caliming to be Hillary supporters that would vote for McCain are just Republicans in sheeps clothing!
Posted by: chessmaster | June 2, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
What is really delusional is for Obama supporters trying to convince Democrats that they must vote party over what is best for America.
Just like millions of Democrats voted for Ronald Reagan over Obama’s pal, Jimmy Carter, Obama supporters should expect millions of Democrats to either stay home or vote for John McCain on Election Day.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
There are millions of women that will not support Obama no matter what.
We will support John McCain.
Posted by: J.J. | June 2, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Between them both, these candidates have generated more interest in our electoral process than ever in our history. — I think that qualifies for a hearty ‘Job Well Done’.
Posted by: Marie | June 2, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
USmarine0331
You’re right. It will be the informed middle that determines the election results. Not the radical and illogical wings.
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
IslandGirl
Anybody besides Obama. Anybody.
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Barack Obama, the racist, helped funnel tons of taxpayer’s money to Rev Pfleger’s church.
Posted by: Don | June 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Marie
Exactly! There is no way McCain will win in Nov, Even if some of the bitter Hillary supporters wont vote, She has helped generate some new voters, and of course Obama has done a tremendous job getting new voters!! :)
Posted by: IslandGirl | June 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
The Obama network MSNBC Chris Matthews just announced Hillary is leading in the popular vote.
Posted by: GM | June 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Chessmaster is only fooling himself.
Don’t take my word about Democrats planning to stay home or voting for John McCain on Election Day.
Take your own informal survey.
It is no wonder why Obama is trying so hard to compliment Hillary’s campaign.
Obama knows that he has a real problem of trying to persuade Hillary supporters to vote for him, instead of John McCain.
Conversely, McCain supporters also know that millions of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain or stay home on Election Day, and that Hillary supporters are look down at Obama’s long time close friendships with radical left-wingers, like Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
T
Thats right country first, Thats why I am supporting Obama and NOT John McBush!
Posted by: IslandGirl | June 2, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
If I were Hillary, I would prepare myself as if I am going to meet with Hannibal Lecter.
Please stop acting like the cat is crying for the mouse.
Hillary has not lost yet; and if she has, leave this poor lady alone instead of torturing her by making her endure further pain of facing hypocrisy hiddin in a smile.
Posted by: meethannibal | June 2, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
There are too many radicals crawling out under the rocks of the Obama tree.
no to wright, no to pfleger, no to obama
Posted by: Don | June 2, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
DREAM ON ISLANDGIRL!!
Posted by: OM | June 2, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
If global warming has turned to global ice-age, Obama would get my vote.
I don’t give a dime if Democrat lose the WH as DNC and democrats deserve the loss.
Posted by: if | June 2, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
It doesn’t matter if Hillary herself calls me to vote for obamadrama. The answer will still be HELL NO!!
Posted by: Jan | June 2, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Note: to clarify the confusion, I have reworked my analysis and checked it against some other sources and the revised result is below. However, the conclusion is the same.
This has been a very, very confusing campaign, even more so because of Dr. Gov. Howard Dean’s call for SUPERDELEGATES, who are supposed to vote only at the Convention, to DECLARE their preference BEFORE the Convention. Most have done so, by endorsement, but an endorsement is not a vote and it cannot turn an UNPLEDGED DELEGATE into a PLEDGED DELEGATE. Actually, Dr. Gov. Dean, Senator Reid and Senator Pelosi, all should know better than to have started the firestorm that is now raging.
Consider this:
Initial total number of Democratic Delegates
(excluding Florida and Michigan) = 4,048
One half of 4,048 + 1 = 2,025
Superdelegates to vote at convention = -795
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
before convention before May 31, 2008 = 3,253
Plus Florida PLEDGED Restored May 31 = +92.5
Plus Michigan PLEDGED Restored May 31 = +64
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
Before Convention as of May 31 = 3,409.5
Original number of SUPERDELEGATES = 795
Plus Florida (13) and Michigan (14.5)
Restored SUPER DELEGATES = 27.5
Total SUPERDELEGATES to vote at the
Convention = 822.5
New Total Convention Delegate count
As of May 31, 2008 = 4,232
New “Magic Number” of PLEDGED DELEGATES
TO BECOME NOMINEE = 2,118
Total Obama PLEDGED DELEGATES
As of June 2, 2008 = 1,738 *
*Includes actual and projected PLEDGED
Total Clinton PLEDGED DELEGATES
As of June 2, 2008 = 1,625#
#Includes actual and projected PLEDGED
Obama needs to win before Convention = 380 PLEDGED DELEGATES
Clinton needs to win before Convention = 493 PLEDGED DELEGATES
The above analysis based on numbers from the New York Times of June 2, 2008.
Total number of PLEDGED DELEGATES available in MT AND SD = 31
Latest ARG polls for MT and SD from RealClearPolitics:
Montana – Obama 48% and Clinton 44%
South Dakota – Obama 34% and Clinton 60%
Draw your own conclusion.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | June 2, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Well said, Don!
I agree totally with you that Obama’s actions for the past 20 years shows that Obama shares the radical left-wing views of Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger.
Of course, Obama supporters will deny this truth, but Obama’s actions speak much louder than his words.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
REMEMBER FOLKS, AFTER THE PRIMARY ENDS,
EVEN IF HILLARY LOOKS LIKE SHE SUPPORTS OBAMA, SHE HAS TO DO IT TO LOOK LOYAL TO THE PARTY.
HILLARY HAS ALREADY SHOWN WHAT OBAMA IS REALLY LIKE IN THE LAST 4 MONTHS.
Posted by: Don | June 2, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
As I read the blogs, I can’t see that the supporters on one side or the other are innocent of saying unkind things. Maybe we could all just stop. Because if we all keep getting even for the last thing, then there will never be peace and we will all fail in our duty to care for our country and it’s people. If you look around on the net, you’ll see that the whole world is watching. I wonder if we Americans really understand how much our choice of president affects the lives of people all over the world. We chose Reagan and the Berlin wall came down. We chose Lincoln and the Union was preserved. We chose Bush and a half a million people are dead who it turns out did nothing at all to us or our country. Senator McCain says that he will never surrender and that there will be many wars. Every time we kill someone without a valid national reason, it’s murder. We’re asking our young people to go kill without a valid reason and their bodies and minds are being traumatized. How Dare We???
Posted by: karela | June 2, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I am really glad this campaign is long because it gives me to know the true character of the candidates.
Knowing what I know now, I am in a cold sweat that I fervently supported Obama for a while and even asked my friends to.
Holy Cow, I could not believe what I have heard and seen later in Obama himself and his supporters. If the campaign is not so long, hell, I might have voted for a second Bush in democrat’s garb.
THANK HEAVEN FOR THIS LONG CAMPAIGN; AT LEAST I SHALL NOT MAKE A MISTAKE.
Posted by: realdemocrat | June 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Karela, quit drinking the Obama Kool-Aid.
The truth is America is succeeding in Iraq, and Iran will take control of Iraq if Obama abandons it.
The truth is also that the U.S. consumes 25 percent of the world’s oil production, even though it only has 6 percent of the world’s population.
Finally, the truth is also that the Federal Government has made guaranteeing America’s access to Middle Eastern oil a national security interest, because another Arab Oil Embargo would result in massive unemployment, severe inflation, and an economic depression in the United States.
Are you ready to look for work riding a bicycle, instead of in a car, or tying to stay warm burning whatever you can find that will burn, or trying to stay cool by using a hand fan, instead of an air conditioner?
The Middle East has 55 percent of the world’s oil reserves, and it has 32 percent of the world’s natural gas reserves.
If you think that American military troops don’t know that they are fighting to protect America’s national security interest in the Middle East, you are only fooling yourself.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Breaking News:
Clinton aides rallying donors, floating convention fight: “August, and no earlier”
Posted by: OM | June 2, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Iran wants Obama to become America’s next president.
Why? Because Iran knows that it can acquire nuclear weapons and become the dominant power in the Middle East if Far Left Obama becomes the next U.S. president.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
OK Clinton supporters… The Clinton campaign is gasping it’s last breaths, and Obama is proving to be the victor.
You’ve all had your say, and the game is about up. It’s time for you to show some class and get those sour grapes out of your mouth.
Posted by: AZMac | June 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Obama does not win unless he wins the pesidency, and Obama will not win the presidency, because millions of Hillary supporters are either going to stay home or vote for Maverick Republican Moderate John McCain on Election Day.
Why? Because Hillary supporters realize that Obama’s actions over the last 20 years shows that Far Left Obama’s shares the radical left-wing views of Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
The “change” that Obama wants to bring to America is to transform it from the world’s only super-power to the equal of lesser nations, like France and Russia.
This is why Obama has pledged to weaken the U.S. Military and to drastically reduce its nuclear arsenal.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Karela,
The U.S. had a right to invade Iraq with or without WMD’s. Saddaam made it look like they had WMDs. He idicated that to FBI interrogators before his execution. He was guilty of crimes against humanity like Hitler.
Posted by: Don | June 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Karela,
The U.S. had a right to invade Iraq with or without WMD’s. Saddaam made it look like they had WMDs. He indicated that to FBI interrogators before his execution. He was guilty of crimes against humanity like Hitler.
Posted by: Don | June 2, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Marine, are you saying that the invasion of Iraq was always about oil, that we conquered them and should stay to protect our oil interest? Very interesting neo-con position. Thanks for showing that you were never a Clinton supporter, just another Republican trying to use the old divide and conquer scam. I suspect you had a few people going for a minute or two.
Posted by: Javalation | June 2, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Senator Barack N Obama will never win the presidency. He has belittled or insulted 3/4 of all Americans one way or another. He does not tell the truth about anything. His resume is a empty sheet of paper. His idea of change is socialism and communism. He stated he was going to change the way politics are run. He did. He received delegates after he dropped off the MI ballot. If Clinton does not run on an independent ticket, her supporters will vote McCain.
Posted by: Mary | June 2, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I’m flabbergasted…. no, appalled, by Hillary’s supporters. Primary rules are primary rules and the means of selecting the Dem Presidential candidate is well documented and known ahead of the contest. One’s got to wonder why they participated in an primary contest if they weren’t willing to accept whichever way the results went. That said, I’m hardly surprised nor scared by their threat tactics: most national polls show Obama opening a lead against McCain. Respectfully, Tony
Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
I will vote for John McCain, if Far Left Obama becomes the Democratic Presidential Nominee.
Why? Because what is best for America is far more important than uniting the Democratic Party behind a Far Left Democratic presidential nominee, who shares the views and values of Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
All Hillary supporters, please vote for Mccain if Hillary will not be the nominee. This way we still have hope to have Hillary run her campaign in 2012 and become the first female president in the U.S.
Please stand strong for our faith. Obama is unelectable for many reasons! Let’s work together to push Mccain to the presidency this year if the stupid democratic party forces Hillary out of the race. This party doesn’t deserve our respect.
Posted by: Megan | June 2, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Tony, national polls are meaningless for the general election. It’s all about electoral votes.
McCain looks like he will win the electoral count because the big electoral swing states are going his way. If he chooses Romney or Rice, it’s all over for Obama.
Posted by: Wes | June 2, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I shudder at the thought of Obama being president and am at a loss as to why so many super delegates choose him.
The nominaton method needs to be changed: a national primary with no caucuses,no state having the advantage of going early and ALL the votes are counted.
Posted by: Karol | June 2, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Mary: Obama didn’t change the contest rules. MI and FL knew they were flouting party regulations. Even Hillary agreed (and made statements to that effect) that these states would not count if they ran their contests against the party regulations. But after Hillary started falling behind in the polls, she suddenly supported seating the MI and FL delegates, hardly a fair contestant’s about-turn. And even with MI & FL, wrongfully I must add, being accounted for fully in Hillary’s favor, she would still lag behind in delegate count. You can’t change the rules at this point which is what the Hillary camp are trying to do; otherwise, why have a contest in the first place? Respectfully, Tony
Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Javalation, believe what you want, but I am a long-time Democrat and a realist.
The invasion and occupation of Iraq was never about retaliating for 9-11, eliminating the threat of WMD’s, or spreading democracy to Iraq.
It has always been about protecting America’s national security interest in the Middle East, which is centered on guaranteeing America’s access to Middle Eastern oil.
Socialists believe in the distributive equality principle, or that America should only be consuming 6 percent of the world’s oil production, because it only has 6 percent of the world’s population.
Perhaps, you think that America should become the equal of lesser nations, like France or Russia, but I do not want Far Left Obama to lead America into its decline.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
T,
Obama is “vile”?
To what the bloody hell do you refer?
Obama is wonderful and has provided no ground for his denouncers to stand on.
Enjoy the quick sand.
Posted by: Peggy | June 2, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
ZMac
With sarcastic remarks like that, why should we?
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Peggy
Assertions will get you nowhere.
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
T, I agree completely.
America first, party second.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Marine, I believe that the oilfields in Alaska should be developed. I also believe that tax incentives to be provided for all Americans to move toward independent solar, wind, geo-thermal or any other alternative to oil/natural gas use.
The energy road we’re on will bankrupt the country, keep us in a perpetual state of war or both. We need to explore all possible routs to clean, safe energy independence.
Posted by: Javalation | June 2, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Javalation, I’m all for America reducing its economic dependency on Middle Eastern oil.
However, the truth is that this it is probably going to take several decades to do so.
The economic woes that America is currently experiencing pales in comparison to what will happen if another Arab Oil Embargo occurs.
The Middle East does not depend on America to buy its oil, because China, India, and Europe will gladly do so.
If you support America remaining a super-power, you should also support protecting America’s national security interest in guaranteeing its access to Middle Eastern oil.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Javalation, your sentiments show why US’s international image under George B’s clock has suffered: the notion that others are “lesser nations”. Who says? Do you not realize that our ancestors came from those nations? Do you wonder why citizens of other nations increasingly resent the US for this attitude? Do you have such a blind spot not to realize that the rest of the world is moving on while we self-indulge and self-obsess? That’s why, thanks to the majority of Americans who increasingly realize this particularly the youth, there will be change come Nov. -Tony
Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Duty calls, but before I go, I commend Hillary for continuing her fight to win the Democratic presidential nomination.
If the Democratic super-delegates do not put America, instead of party first, I will join millions of other Hillary supporters in voting for Maverick Republican Moderate John McCain on Election Day.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
How do you figure MI to be fair the way they divided it up? It’d be like hitting the lottery without buying a ticket because you intended to buy those numbers!
Posted by: Gene_FL | June 2, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
“Draw your own conclusion.”
Yavo Lem | Jun 2, 2008 7:21:34 PM
Gotta conclude you’re being ridiculous. Obama took an absolute majority of pledged delegates (>50%) on the evening of 20 April ’08 when Oregon came in.
The deal for Florida and Michigan reduced him to 16¾ delegates below an absolute majority of pledged delegates for about 22 hours.
He was restored to an absolute majority in pledged delegates yesterday, when he picked up another 17 delegates from Puerto Rico. There is, mathematically, no way Clinton can catch up; he has in excess of 50% of all earnable (i.e. “pledged”) delegates. (And that’s not even counting the “Edwards’ delegates” that he’s picked up since Edwards dropped out and endorsed Obama.)
Even if Clinton had gotten the deal she wanted, there’d still be no way to stop him via pledged delegates. Her ONLY hope is that the superdelegates take it away from him.
Posted by: Lee C. ― U.S.A. | June 2, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Gene_FL
Obama’s election was already determined by the party insiders. Giving Hillary part of FL and part of MI was just a cheap attempt to pacify her supporters.
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
The North Slope of Alaska may hold the largest oil reserve in the world that has been discovered yet remains undeveloped. The oil industry has chosen not to develop these fields, but could quickly if forced. Since they know where it is, they could be in productions in a year or two, not decades. BTW, it wouldn’t take decades to encourage American homeowners to become more energy independent either.
Posted by: Javalation | June 2, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Tony, before I go, it was me, not Javalation, that opposes Obama making America the equal of lesser nations, like France or Russia.
Whether many American’s ancestors came from lesser nations doesn’t change the fact that these nations are lesser both militarily and economically than America.
To claim that lesser nations, like Poland or Ireland, are equal to America both economically and militarily is a denial of the truth.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
unbelievable, how racist the core of america seems to be. obama has constantly avoided the sort of dirty politics opted for by hillary. he could have flayed her walking if he had chosen to. what a sitting duck! and yet there is such a level of hate directed at him. i believe this hate to stem from the color of his skin. it really has to be. if he were white, he would be your favorite son. god damn america.
Posted by: roy | June 2, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
One last thing!
The super delegates should look at Obama’s electibility both pre-Jeremiah-gate and post-Jeremiah-gate.
Before Jeremiah-gate, Obama was electable.
After Jeremiah-gate, most American voters, as shown in the results of the primaries in Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico, realized that Obama’s actions over the last 20 years shows that Obama shares the radical left-wing views and values of Jeremiah Wright, which has made him unelectable.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Javalation, my sincerest apologies. My comments above were directed at USmarine0331 and not you. Respectfully, Tony
Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
roy
Obama fans always have to resort to calling people racists who don’t agree with them. Why is that?
Country first, party second!
Posted by: T | June 2, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Semper Fi!
God, country, and corps!!!
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 2, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
No problem, I assumed as much. Marine seems to believe that the US is empire, and entitled to rule. That seems more of a right wing belief that a Democratic one, so I still think he was faking being a Hillary supporter. But who knows, it takes all kinds.
Posted by: Javalation | June 2, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
well, T…such hate simple could not ge generated by the minor differences that he and hillary share. he has run one of cleanest campaigns ever. so you tell me where it stems from T. why so much hate? here’s one for ya…i am not an obama supporter :)
Posted by: roy | June 2, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
T said…..Obama’s election was already determined by the party insiders. Giving Hillary part of FL and part of MI was just a cheap attempt to pacify her supporters.
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I absolutely disagree with you. Hillary was the presumed nominee and that is why so many supers supported her from the get go. You really think the DNC punished Fl and Mi because of some major plan to get Hillary out of the race. Oh please they aren’t that smart. And they can’t foresee the future. Those states were punished with the intention of fully seating them after Hillary was named the nominee. But Hillary was too complacent and had no message. So here comes Obama from the rear and regardless of how you feel he inspired a lot of people and brought new voters out. And he won so many states by large margins. Hillary ran a flawed campaign and had no idea how to fight him. She kept changing hats and accents depending on where she was campaigning while he kept the same message. She looked foolish at times. I will admit that Hillary has finally found her voice these past few weeks. If only she was like this her whole campaign. She underestimated her opponents. And that is why Obama is ahead in delegates. And FYI, I am a dem and will vote for either one since their policies are basically the same. And I don’t agree with republicans at all. I’m afraid they will reinstate the draft. They are such warmongers.
Posted by: lisa | June 2, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
DON’T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn’t it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children’s suffering.
With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.
The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton’s do very well.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party’s back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.
You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don’t let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.
And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”
Posted by: jacksmith | June 2, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Marine: I cannot comprehend your blind-spot, especially if you’re actually a marine (and I assume travelled). I just completed graduate school and guess what? … almost a majority of my classmates were international students. This has been a developing trend. In my school’s engineering & medical departments, a majority of the students are internationals. They come from countries that have smaller economies (for now) and that notwithstanding does not make their countries of origin “lesser nations”. With regionalization (e.g. EU government) and emergence of China, I hope we do not come to regret such arrogance. But maybe we don’t care because only our grand children will face it… With economic & democratic leadership (as we’ve been privileged to have) comes with it humility and responsibility. -Tony
Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Marine: I cannot comprehend your blind-spot, especially if you’re actually a marine (and I assume travelled). I just completed graduate school and guess what? … almost a majority of my classmates were international students. This has been a developing trend. In my school’s engineering & medical departments, a majority of the students are internationals. They come from countries that have smaller economies (for now) and that notwithstanding does not make their countries of origin “lesser nations”. With regionalization (e.g. EU government) and emergence of China, I hope we do not come to regret such arrogance. But maybe we don’t care because only our grand children will face it… With economic & democratic leadership (as we’ve been privileged to have) comes with it humility and responsibility. -Tony
Posted by: Tony | June 2, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
For people whose minds are made up to vote for McCain, please stop haranguing the rest of us who are still in the Democratic Party. We get the message. You don’t have to repeat “Never Obama” ad nauseum. It will not change the outcome of the Democratic primary. If you want to join Republican Party, please do so. They love Hillary over there.
For Hillary supporters who are still Democrats, if you want a female president, please find someone who is not hated by half of the nation. Before this campaign most of the Hillary haters were outside the Democratic Party. Now half of the Democratic Party hate her too. Hillary ran a bad campaign. She focused on the big states, and lost 11 states in a row between Super Tuesday and Ohio/Texas. If she had competed in those states Obama would not have run up a delegate lead so big that her victories in the big states could not overcome. Whatever you think of media bias and the attitudes of Obama supporters, they would not have mattered had she ran a better campaign.
I will also like to address the myth that DNC had rigged the primary against Hillary. The DNC was actually packed with Clinton supporters who were in position to write all the rules for the primary. This was so because her husband was the last Democrat to win the White House. She also had an undeniable advantage over Obama because she is the first serious female presidential candidate. White females constitute the single biggest demographic group in the Democratic primary. Had she won 70 percent of the white female votes, it would not have mattered that Obama won 90 percent of the black votes. Given her positions on policies are almost identical to Obama, the fact that more than 30 percent of white females could not bring themselves to vote for the first serious female presidential candidate should tell Hillary supporters that perhaps she is not the right one to break the ultimate glass ceiling.
Posted by: anthony | June 2, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
azmac, you assume every Hillary supporter is a dem. And all these new registered dems, you also assume, are voting for Obama. Well, you’re wrong. Many swing voters in OH voted Clinton in the primary. We don’t have to declare a party to vote in the primary. And she won every rural county in the state. McCain will win OH in November.
Posted by: Bea | June 3, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Anne,
You said,
What is the point American voting, you decide.
The DNC decide ,not the people vote.
Actually why we even vote!
Posted by: catleya | June 3, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Hillary go and take a vacation and have this empty suit to take on the republicans.
If he loses, then it would be the end of democratic party because McCain will make the necessary turn to right the country. He definitely will do better than Bush.
After finishing most of the promises that the democrates promise, the democates will need a revolution to get back on track.
With McCain, you won’t have those disgusting pundits from the democrates spitting on you. You won’t have BO spending all your money and tax you heavily to make up for his affiliations like Father XXX.
Then we can laught at those BO fanatics and the black who voted only on the colour of skin. Then Americans’ justice will be rightly served.
Looking forward to have BO lose by landslides in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, and California.
Posted by: John_Lai | June 3, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
Senator McCain kicks off the 2008 General Election campaign tonight at 7 pm in Kenner, Louisiana.
As stated, ” a former aide to Republican Mitt Romney says McCain has a “long record” of “having led the charge of reform-minded change” but he says there’s a “canyon between Barack Obama’s rhetoric of change and what he’s ever achieved.”
McCain 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | June 3, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
@ John_Lai:
Very informative and insightful post! Thanks for sharing!
McCain 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | June 3, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
i have little to no hope that obama will actually prevail in november. i truly hope he does. the little or no hope i have stems from the fact that this is the country that gave the earth george w bush for not one but two terms. america and americans seem to be slipping into the kind of righteous indignation held by germany prior to world war two. do you have the tiniest idea how corrupt a system you seem to have and how badly you are seen to treat the rest of the world? your very presence in iraq was initiated by a criminal invasion so obviously spurred by there being a presence of oil in that country. where was shock and awe when over a million rwandans were being massacred? barack obama in my humble opinion represents one last grasp at reason, before your once great nation slips beyond the cusp of being redeemable- both internally (america is looking more 3rd world with each passing year) and in it’s dealings with the rest of the planet. this is an absolutely pivotal time for the entire world i believe and how unfair that the rest of us don;t get a say in who runs the country that runs and rapes the rest of us at will. like i stated earlier i have little hope given the cretinous and indoctrinated masses of america. two terms of bush…nothing to add
Posted by: roy | June 3, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am