Clinton Sneaks Out to Meet Obama in Washington

McCain can take a five month vaction now. And when he comes back McCain will be president.

Looks like the Hilliary supporters are creating a “bittergate” of their own. Yeay! for a 3rd Bush term, some “Democrats!”

Pity,
You and your ilk don’t have anything to offer Clinton supporters. I’m still voting for Hillary in November. I may or may not write in Obama as a VP candidate. I still question whether he is capable enough to be VP. The sly dog Axelrod, on the other hand, would be a natural successor to the vacancy that is being left by Cheney.
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McCain/Axelrod 2008
Clinton/Gore 2012
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mooseface, McSame can go on holidays ad when he comes back it will be in his 25 years-traditional place in the senate. He loves the senate and will not leave it, believe me.

I am not a big fan of Hillary, but if Obama chooses her as his Vice-President, I will still vote for him. Remember folks, the primary was a fight between a brother and a sister. However, now it is time to re-direct that positive energy and explode the repuglican propoganda machine!
Democrats in 08!…even if Obama/Clinton

Say what you want – he will lose a significant % of democrat votes without her on the ticket.

caroline kennedy for vp.booyah
oprah for senate majority leader.kick pelosi.
richardson needs a barber and the richards.
hill will run and win in 2012

The problem with Hillary supporters is that they’re bitter, so they fall back on things that are familiar: God, guns and throwing vomiting tantrums in the hopes of scaring people into giving them their way.

Dmc is a loser party.

@Fred – I hope she does. She should not be used by the DNC and Obama to help “unite” the party and put him in the WH after the way she has been treated.
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Either on of them is fine. Even McCain would be better than the one we have now.

And who would pay if Hillary ran independent. Guys it won’t happen no matter how much you want it. She loves the party more than you do.

I saw that about the spanish thing. He’s a flip-flopper pandering for votes

The more this goes on, the more its becoming obvious to me.
Obama wants Hillary on the ticket.
Michelle does not. His campaign does not. Carter does not. Kenney does not. Pelosi does not .
Lets see who wins.

Bottom line…If you think that the only candidate with 20 million in campaign debt is the right choice to rebuild our struggling economy then you really are as dumb as the media has been saying!PERIOD.

I for one am not letting the DNC and MSM force an unexperinced Obama on me, I will have to vote for McCain, for that reason, I think I will be able to get along for 4 more years. The media has covered up information, that should have been told so the people could make up there minds on there own, Many people to not follow the news everday, and expect and unbias news. CNN should have been ashamed of their coverage and the cover ups, all where guilty and should admit it

americans first…
Since when did anyone care who jimmy carter thinks should be VP??!! are you serious?!

I want to still vote for hillary and obama they rock!

olberman…
see, thats the whole point!! what does he have to talk about?! the more he repeats, the better off he is! he knows he dosnt have the experience on the issues, so what is he supposed to talk about? and all of the mindless idiots who support him already have their minds made up. all THEY want to hear is “hope” and “change” and “believe”. see, thats the liberal mindest. they DONT WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH. they never have, and never will. so the more obama talks, the more he is going to get in trouble. all he has is charisma. thats it. he KNOWS that. so he just has to play to the people who dont look at the past, the facts and cling to an invisible “hope”.

I know that Clinton groupies aren’t going to inject immigration issues into this. McCain just so happens to represent the illegal alien super highway of the country and has chosen to do nothing about it. If you believe that all the sudden he’s going to magically have a change of heart and do something ,you are dumb.

LeeLee,
Hang tough, you are as awesome as usual. You and I both know that when the vetting of Obama finally happens that Obama will be toast and it’s a good thing that Hillary is placing her campaign in suspension, because she has not said it is over. You watch on Saturday, she will say all the right things to placate Obama, but she WILL NOT say its over. Let the vetting begin.
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Obama, the second choice of the majority of Democrats. The time for vetting has come!
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I use to be a Hillary supporter in the beginning and then I switched. In actuality, I really didn’t care which one won until Feb/Mar. However, as a woman, I know we are passionate about our beliefs. I also know we are forward thinking beings who want what’s best for our children and future generations.
Our adversary here is the Republicans because they have threatened the stability for our children and future generations. To prevent this we need to come together and support our Democratic candidate. No matter how disappointed we are when our candidate loses, we still must see the bigger picture. We are better than this, that’s when it’s a woman’s turn whether it’s Hillary or someone else, it will happen. But today, it is Barack and he is not our Savior although I beiieve he will work very hard to get us out of this mess the Republicans have selfishly put us in. Bring our troops, our sons, daughters, nephews, nieces, granddaughters, grandsons,brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, cousins HOME. A vote for McCain is a vote for another loss of life unnecessarily. How can we look our children in the face and know we helped their cause. I lost my mother in 9.11 and I’m appalled the Republicans used our grief for their personal gain. Let your anger go, and put it where it needs to be.

The biggest comedy is having hillary on the ticket as VP will cause Obama supporters to NOT vote for Obama somehow.
I think its the funniest thing I ever heard.
I honestly think Obama wants clinton on the ticket.
Its all the insiders and pundits who dont.
Regardless , the fact still comes down to the democrats honestly playing a game of chicken with the clinton supporters.
Mc Cain is no conservative. He is a viable pick for reagan democrats.

Write her in people, simply write her in

americans first, you have to be kidding if you think Obama wants the Clintons as running mates. That is so absurd.

SHE JUST WANTS OBAMA TO PAY HER 25 MILLION DOLLAR CAMPAIGN DEBT.
SHE’S A FAKE, FRAUD, PHONY.

ya know, everyone can keep arguing about the race thing. race isnt a problem in america anymore. not on a large scale anyways. there will always be idiots out there. but race is simply an excuse. and coincidentally, its being used more by blacks and obama supporters in this campaign. its amazing. but what do you expect from people that listen to people like rev. wright, jesse jackson, rev. al sharpton, and on and on and on. when we will ALL see that these are the people that are keeping race an issue? at least when its convienient of course. thats why i have never figured out why blacks CONTINUE to support democrats!!! they are the ones who “keep you down”!!!! they have for the last 50 years, and they arent going to stop. they love that black vote ya know. simply amazing.

Sally,
Is your theory that the 18 million or so Hillary supporters did not vote for Obama because he’s black and will not in the future because he’s black? Isn’t that fairly preposterous? Or is this an effort to start an early play on the race card with McCain? Good luck with that.
I for one could care less if Obama is black. I openly supported Jesse Jackson when he ran. Jesse Jackson was qualified to be President because he has a consistent track record supporting the working class. Obama supports a totally different class and is looking to get paid! By the way, at the 2004 Rainbow/Push Conference where Michelle Obama spoke some of the extreme black liberation theocrats openly attacked Jesse Jackson and demeaned him. He does not deserve that kind of treatment given his track record. But back to Obama, I can never support Obama because he is not qualified based on lack of experience and his negative association with Rezko. I could care less about his association with Ayers, I don’t think that really warrants a concern, but I think you’ll find that the Republicans probably feel differently. Won’t be long before you miss the good old days when you had Hillary Clinton to abuse.
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Obama/Rezko 2008
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I live and vote as a democrat in San Francisco. Our Senators get stuff done. It’s about time for UNITY in the DNC. I am 100% in favor of whatever is in the best interest of the country and the democratic party. JOB well done dems. I salute Obama, Clinton, Feinstein and the DNC. Let’s take the White House back.

Jerry, I guess this whole process is scary then. I listen to the MSM with a grain of salt but form my own opinion after research. You are right though. Many people don’t have access to the net and rely on the MSM.

Obviously, they are meeting to work out how they are going to introduce Hillary on the ticket. All this back and forth was a political ploy all along to generate buzz for the Libs. Now, they will “officially” Kiss and make up” and Hillary will be second fiddle and they will “Unite” (more of Obama’s Rhetoric.) Don’t you guys see how sly and underhandedly the Libs have become? They will stop at nothing to win this election. This combination is the only way that the Dems can win the election and any fool knows that! THEY know that and that’s exactly why they are teaming up! Wake up! Barack Obama has belonged to a racist church for 20 years and has terrorist associates for 20 years. He does not wear the US Flag Lapel Pin and he will not put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem, What’s wrong with this picture? And he wants to be the President of the United States of America, one of these things just doesn’t belong here. Another funny thing is, Barack Obama calls himself black, his party him black, his church him black, the media calls him black, but his mother was WHITE! Why does he not acknowledge this fact? Can anyone answer this question? I just don’t get it.

Louis,
This is not about black and white. A black man or woman, qualified, would be just fine. This is about who has the most experience to run the country. Obama clearly does not. Either Nader or McCain would be a better choice, but I myself cannot bring myself to vote Green Party or Republican, so it’s either sit on my hands, or vote write-in for a qualified candidate. Hillary Clinton is still that person. You would not want me to violate my conscience would you?
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I’ve voting unObama, 2008.
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Westcoastmessenger:Are you serious? Read what her groupies write and tell me that they also acknowledge her defeat. I’m not ranting to Clinton (I know that she knows that she lost) I’m ranting to her naïve followers who refuse to accept the fact that she is NOT the Democratic nominee. Then to add insult to injury they are poor sports and sore losers and threaten to vote for the polar opposite of Clinton! What sense does that make? So maybe you should be directing your questions to your fellow Clinton supporters. The problem is that most of her supporters don’t make intelligent decisions they make emotional decisions and unfortunately for the rest of us-OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE! We can’t take 100 more years of war and diminished respect from around the globe. Enough of you, time for a gut check Clinton supporters! Good night.

I am for McCain too!
Dems will be beated badly!

Obama is an intelligent man, he would never pick such a poor choice as his VP.

The government isn’t going to change wall street. The problems in America are not going to be solved by electing a democrat. The problem are because investors are not risking their money. You want an economic releif plan then vote republican. If rich people become poor then poor people become even more poor. There is no equality in the system. Only fools are voting for Obama because they actually think he can improve their economic ways of life.

I wonder how MSNBC can explan to everybody how Senator Obama can win this election. Senator Obama lost most of the Swing States by large margins to Senator Clinton. If Senator Obama cannot win the swing states this election is lost.

People, whatever happened to voting on policy? If you’ve done well under 8 years of Bush and are quite happy to have another four years of the same economic and foreign policy, vote for McCain. If on the other hand, you want to travel a different road, and have the possibility of universal healthcare and a return of the troops, vote for Obama? Voting because you don’t like McCain or Obama personally, or jumping ship because Hillary didn’t win, is plain dumb. Your livelihood and well-being are at stake, choose on the basis of something more intelligent than personal prejudice!

I am better off now than I was eight years ago.

McCain did not only select the wrong party, he selected the wrong policies.
Policies which have failed and yet from his “experience” he choses to still support them.
John McCain sold his soul to the Republican Party.

This morning I checked again. I am still an idiot like Hillary is still a loser.
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Hillary = Loser
WestCoastMessenger = Idiot
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I may be an imbecile, but I don’t have 20 yr associates such as unrepentant terrorist-William Ayers, felon-Rezko, Anti-American/Anti-Jew/Anti-White-Jeremiah Wright, Anti-White-Pflegger. (Who knows who else he knows.) Oh, but these people weren’t the TRUE character that Obama knew. Of course not, the Libs are masters at being DISHONEST! Obama only knew the KIND side of these people. And for the last time-Obama is not Black, his mother was White so I guess it would be proper to call him Mulatto. You know if he does win, you guys understand that the job is NOT EASY. YOU DO GET THAT, I HOPE! It all seems like fun and games over here, but it’s not like that when you’re up against Iran. I’m 28 and I have a young child, I don’t want us to live in a world in which there is nuclear holocaust. We all wine about gas prices and the housing market but we all must admit aside from them 2 things, it’s been pretty good and above all-WE DON’T WORRY WHEN WE GO TO BED AT NIGHT! THINK ABOUT THAT!

I love these comments. They are all over the map at every possible extreme, and every writer thinks that his opinion is infallible truth from God herself. All these opinions are manufactured in your heads. Not a single one is actually real. None of you knows the future, or who would be a good or bad president, or, for that matter, what you will be doing in an hour. It’s mass mental masturbation….and I have to admit, it’s entertaining as hell. The only sad part is how many of you are angry because the world is not quite the way you want it. Better sue somebody, quick.

west coast…
ok, so you just named me 3 republicans. and they are all from the bush administration. im a conservative. i voted for bush twice. i realize he hasnt been the greatest leader.(not quite as bad as people make it seem to be) but you say republicans as a whole, and then you name a few from the current administration. any other examples from a broader aspect, of republican “arrogance”? i mean, its soooo easy for everyone to compare EVERY republican to george bush. a very liberal way of thinking.

hillary or bust
hello mccain.

WestCoastMessenger, I am confused. Exactly what are you trying to say? You sound like someone regretting your support of Hillary, yet angry at Obama.
People, many those 18 millions Hillary voters, are voting against Obama, not voting for Hillary, so don’t think you are getting 18 million for Obama. More than half will go to McCain!

WestCoast, exactly what do you mean by all the conflicting messages?

Resko guilty on 16 counts of fraud and moneylaundering. This is additional proof of Obama’s lack of judgement. Obama NEVER !!!

(((
McCain raised 2 million dollars in two days from Hillary supporters!
Just reported!
Posted by: AMY | Jun 5, 2008 11:41:31 PM)))——Yup I was one of those. Once the word came out from the media Hilary was backing Obama I was gone to his website. No way in the world would I ever throw my vote to a lying, cheating, racist, idiot that can’t speak clearly without a teleprompter or pre written speech. I’m a proud black woman who will vote McCain now that Hillary has been thrown out by the DNC. The democrats have lost a lot of us for good.

well, that wasnt the rezcko he knew..lol just like it wasnt the jeremiah wright he knew… lol suuuure, i believe ya barack… you idiot.

Breaking News: Hillary Clinton is going to offer Barack Obama the position of Vice President!

@Keith Olberman – If Hillary does not make it thru (and I still think she has a chance) on Election Day the DNC will hear a giant sucking sound. That sound will be the Democratic Party imploding in on itself. Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Reid and Brazille will be standing in shock, faces still stinging from the giant, collective slap disenfranchised Democrats will have delivered to them by not voting in their Anointed One…
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

I will never vote for a affirmative action nominee. Hillary has the most votes, she is the “real” winner.

LeeLee, Hillary isn’t the nominee but she will support Obama and Obama will win the GE.

I’ll not vote in this general election if she is Obama’s vp candidate. I can tell the forcoming tragedy if this happened.

MIguy: Tell me exactly when Bush said the war was going to be easy? Aside from gas prices what is worse now than it was 8 years ago. You can still get a a burger and fries for about $3. The dollar losing value has no impact on what you buy with it anyway. The only people affected by the dollars decrease are the people in foriegn countries who can now travel to the US for less. A weak dollar isn’t always a bad thing. A weak dollar means US goods can be bought in Europe for less than European goods. Meaning we export more then. A weaker dollar means we buy less from foriegn countries because it becomes more expensive to import than to manufacture domestically.

just want to point out also, the housing crisis, in no way, shape, or form, has anything to do with the bush administration. just thought i would say that. also, 4 dollar a gallon gas isnt either.

Remember the nomination vote is 8/26/08. Hillary is waiting, right will win. Keep the faith…

A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality
that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history.
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
4. During the 1980′s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
11. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by
Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40.
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by– you guessed it–
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
No, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us,
airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people…
Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President’s security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and
Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,
but leave
Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40
alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
According to The Book of Revelation:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power,
he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning
Act of Stupidity
Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet –
The Presidency of the United states of America
A Muslim
Male
Extremist
Between
the ages
of 17 and 40.
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
I’m sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the
‘unknown’ candidate.
Let’s send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves — if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story ‘Forrest Gump’ so aptly put it,
‘Stupid
Is
As
Stupid Does

Obama looks like a winner compared to McCain and they have not even had a debate yet.
Now that Hillary is on board things will be easier for her supporters to join in the fun.
Those who won’t? Just prove they were not supporting her but rather than own inability to fully understand that the democratic party is always united when it is all said and done because this so much bigger than just Hillary and Obama.

BRIAN…
are you kidding me??!! first off, bill clinton did WAY more damage than any other president ever when it came to the lending laws. do some research on the lending laws before you open your uninformed ass. do you think maybe, just maybe it was irresposible lending and borrowing that caused the problem?! bush can be blamed for not handeling the war correctly ALL DAY but you cant even mention his name when it comes to the mortgage crisis and why it occured. wow, i hate uninformed people when they feel like trying to blame someone.DO THE RESEARCH.

Obama is not going to fix the mortgage problem. The only people who can fix that are the Wall Street Investors who buy mortgages on the secondary market. If all Americans would get some b*lls and invest their money we would work our way out of this mess.

This is what happens when people who don’t understand business try to take on a business problem. Which is exactly why Obama is not going to be the best choice for President if the economy is the number 1 issue.

jg2012
the Supreme Court Thing a red herring… she wouldnt get through the hearings… she should be offered VP and take it

Kelly
exactly
it was the “econonomy stupid” and the the congressional leadership just made a bad deal on Deal or NO Deal!

@tim: agreed that our dependency on oil, and foreign oil in particular, is a huge problem. however, the high price of gas may trigger alternative approaches finally.

Why Hillary should not be VP and why so many of the people she works with -starting with John Kerry – supported Obama instead: Google “Barrett Report”. Though the 120 missing pages are not available to We the People, they are available to any Congressman that requests them. The Republicans would be glad to use the information in there to bring down any Democratic ticket with Hillary on it.
If she remains in the Senate or if Obama offers her a cabinet position, she can still get a lot done. But not as VP.

Lee lee, WCM,
Do you think the DNC know about our anger to them?
They don’t deserve us. Give them a lesson.

@Keith Olberman -
Aaaaahh – but he does have that flag pin, don’t you think that might save him??? lol.
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

i agree. thats modern day american politics: get right to the breaking point so we absolutely have to do something about it. its like not changing your cars oil for a hundred thousand miles. it gets to the point that you have to do something fast or your screwed. hell with actually looking into the future(except when it comes to glbal warming)

staniam – The whole thing, like must of us suspected, was rigged all along. I was really amazed at the body language. Their minds were already made up and nothing was going to change them. What really got me was that they knew America was watching that hearing and they didn’t give a d@mn. It was blatant, it was in our faces – our votes did not matter. I really wish Hillary would leave the Democratic Party and go Independent. After the trashing they gave her, she owes them nothing, least of all her brilliance and competence!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

indep4hillormccain – there is no “whitey tape” – the claim has already been disproven. Keep up with the news.

sandy
there may not be that specific tape … btu we havent heard you say anythign about rezko being convicted on 16 counts huh? you all are trapped even though Obama is the presumptive nominee!

@Kelly: one loan that fails, or 10 or 20 or 2000, i’ll blame on the borrower. when we have the highest number of foreclosures ever, then we have an institutional problem. look, if i’ve got 10 bucks and someone asks me for it but it doesn’t look like they can pay me back. the sane thing is to say no. it’s not to give the 10 bucks and then sell that loan off to someone else who, wrongly, trusted my judgment not to make a bad loan. to me, bailing out either the lenders or borrowers is a losing proposition but one that we’re stuck in.

Tim
I agree with that!

How must Hillary view the politics and tactics of Evita??

staniam -sorry nothing there, either. trial is over, sentencing coming up – neither Obam of the governor were drawn into the trial. Rezko, “whitey” – nothing there – done deal. You had hoped there would be something – there is not. Obama took control of the DNC today – Clinton is out, Obama in – live with it.

staniam, I said no such thing about the party coming together. I coiuld care less. But how dare you say it is ok that I am being attacked by people I don’t agree with.

indep4hillormccain – Bob Beckel? Sorry, no tape no matter how much you may want it to be true.

MIguy: Ok then how is this Bushs fault? How will Obama fix it?

staniam – I think you must live in a parallel universe. If Clinton had won the nomination you would be dancing in the street. I am a sgtrong Obama supporter, but if Hillary had won the nomination I would have voted for her – unlike the Hillary supporters who threaten to do otherwise.

Sandy I agree with you. I would have supported Hillary too. Dems all the way. Staniam seems to want to belittle anyone who voted for Obama though

@Kelly: Again, the problem is overspending. The Bush administration is spending too much money. So that’s how it’s his fault.
How will Obama fix it? I’m not sure that he will fix it in any knowing fashion. I think the threat to leave Iraq will cause the leaders over there to get there act together (I think that is already happening to a small degree). I think stopping the war will plug a huge spending drain. I’m not happy about the alternative overspending he proposes, but at least he’ll be spending it in the US on things that might actually drive the economy.
The problem ends with increasing consumer confidence, some restrictions on lending practices, and reigning in the speculators.

MIguy: The point I am trying to make is that government intervention isn’t going to improve the economy. It will just have to work itself out. The mortgage mess is not that big of a mess really. Purchasing a home is just as possible today as it was 50 years ago. We have just gotten back more to the basics. Lending guidlines are much tighter now than they were a few years ago. The dollar will comeback and property values will increase. everything will be fine. The deomcrats are trying to scare the American people to vote for them.

Specualtion is what drives our economy. Rememeber the lessons on supplyy and demand?

Staniam,
I thought I just read a few hours ago, David Wolfson said, Hillary will not be his VP, it’s all about Obama and his supporters not from Hillary.
I think Hillary may reject after Jimmy Carter’s stupid(sorry) comment.
Well,,,they deserve it.. just wait in november what will happen.
But,,maybe Hillary also doesn’t want to be blamed if he lost later.

thank you omentum. and thanks for injecting a little levity. yep, we can all make our point without the hate eh!

indep4hillormccain,
That is a good point! I cannot see him winning PA. He lost PA by 10%. Kerry carried PA against Bush by less than 2%. How can he beat McCain when he lost the state to Hillary by a wide margin?!?! Again, the white/working class will be the difference in states such as PA and Ohio. Even if he gets most of the black vote in Philadelphia and parts of Ohio, it will not be enough to offset the white/working class voters that will vote AGAISNT him!

staniam I have never said anything negative about Hillary and yet you attack me. That really tells me about her supporters. I am just voicing my opinion. BTW I would vote for Hillary if she were the nominee. So back off.

@staniam: why should she want the VP spot? not that she isn’t deserving, but it’s really a crummy job. there are better jobs she could bargain for…

Indep4hillormccain
I told these people months ago he was like Dukkakis… the far left dems are always lookign for the next rockstar phenom… but the only one they ever had was Bill Clinton twice… and they dared to throw him under the bus

staniam – Senator Obama is smart enough not to do that. He needs somene on the ticket with military or foreign policy credentials – neither of which Clinton has. However, I could see her in a cabint post especially in relation to getting universal health care passed. That is her passion and I believe she could get health care for everyone passed.

Night all

earthisnotflat – I agree. Also remember that McCain has hired trolls to stir the pot between Hillary and Senator Obama’s supporters.

Is it me, or does anyone else get repulsed and completely disgusted by the Obama choir over at CNN? I mean, I know they have to compete with MSNBC as “the biggest Obama Cheerleader network”, but for Christ’s sakes..do they have to be so obvious?
And to make matters worse, they have all these AA pundits (no, this is not a racist comment) shamelessly trashing Hillary- even after she’s expressed her support for Obama.
Unbelievable!

Its The Only Way
but remember we cant say that because its racist… Obama sunk himself in the GE when he was caught saying that the working class whites cling to guns and religion and have antipathy to people who arent like them.

@Mack: So what makes Obama more “left” than Clinton? Which policies are you referring to specifically? Healthcare? Her mandate is about as socialist as it gets and beyond what he proposes. So, what is it then?

Omentum – thank you – could not have said it better myself! :)

O
Obama will be obligated to pick Hillary or we will not vote for him… period.. that is a fact!

staniam,
This is the great irony about this whole “I support/don’t support Obama thing. If you don’t support the guy, you’re automatically labeled a “racist.” If you don’t vote for Hillary..it’s ok, she’s divisive, cold, evil.. you name it!
I cannot believe, nor can I get over how they (Obama, his surrogates/supporters) threw Bill Clinton under the bus after everything he’s done not only for this great country of ours and the democratic party, but for the entire AA community! It pains me to see what they’ve done to him. Where is the gratitude? Where is the loyalty? It seems none of that exists. I am so disgusted with my party, I just don’t know if I can continue to support it!

indep4hillaryormccain” well she had to back down a little because those 30 democrat supporters were squealing I bet because Obama threatened to cut off money to them… it all has been about bribery … maybe thats the way it always has been… Obama installing a campaign worker at the DNC today “to combat lobbyists” was jsut for show because of rezko etc

Sandy – I am not a fanatic – Hillary has always been a “good” democrat despite how badly she was treated. I agree, she is one smart lady – but Hillary does not decide who I vote for. I decide. I cannot vote for Obama for all the reasons I listed before. I personally think Hillary will have a great future because she showed all of America she has the right stuff to be Commander-in-Chief. She outshone her opponents at every turn and if it hadn’t been for the MSM and DNC in Obama’s pockets and Obama’s cheating dirty tactics, she would be the nominee. We all know that, even you.
P.S. Obama has not won anything yet!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

sandy,
Go back and watch every show on the network beginning in early February, to this past Wednesday…you’ll see what I mean- if you don’t already!

indep4hillormccain – A Gallup Study released today shows that in a general election match up Hispanics break by a greater than two-to-one margin for the Illinois Democrat: 62 percent to McCain’s 29 percent. To put that in context, in 2004, Hispanics favored Sen. John Kerry over President Bush by a margin of 59 to 40, meaning that Obama is already ahead of his Democratic predecessor. This, of course, is a welcome development for a candidate hoping to win Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico, states with large Hispanic communities. Overall, nationally Senator Obama leads McCain 48% to 42% – well within the error range and he has only been the Democratic nominee for two days. Senator Obama’s numbers will go up – McCain’s down now that there are just two candidates instead of three.

“Is it me, or does anyone else get repulsed and completely disgusted by the Obama choir over at CNN? I mean, I know they have to compete with MSNBC as “the biggest Obama Cheerleader network”, but for Christ’s sakes..do they have to be so obvious?”
I, personally, want to YANK Roland Martin’s tongue out of his head every time he opens his apologist mouth!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

staniam – funny you should say that…I bet your response would have been diferent if the figures were vice versa :)

Obama is the one who instigated this meeting. He probably had to go the Hillary and cry “Oh my god, what do I do now?! I don’t know what to do!? Hillary, advise me, please!! I’m so used to just repeating what you say as best I can in my own words!”
I’m not sure who I respect less. Obama, Richardson, or Donna Brazille.
Hard call.

Hillary doesn’t need Obama…he needs her. She should turn down the V.Pres. spot and run as an independent. So many voters hate Obama and McCain, she would have a great chance of taking it all. Lieberman would be a great V.P. for her. Hillary in 08. Nobama, EVER.

indep4hillormccain – PR does not vote in the general election so what sense is there in even bringing them up? Puerto Ricans are not the majority of Latinos and Hispanics in this country. The exit polls have also showed that Senator Obama is cutting into Hillary’s base – however, you seem to ignore those figures. There was also an interesting post on DU today from a former Hilary supporter – Hillary Clinton Does Not Own Me. I voted for Hillary way back when. I long dreamed of the day I could do that. I could not wait for the day I could vote for the first female president of the United States. I think she’s shrewd and smart and I thought she would make a great president. I’m one of her “18 million” votes. I changed my mind – a while ago. I am now a die-hard Obama fan. So is my mother. She voted for Hillary. So is my sister. She voted for Hillary. Hillary can subtract 3 votes from that “18 million.” Where does she get off thinking she owns us and can use our votes to twist Obama’s arm into picking her for VP? Let me tell you, I also, at one time, dreamed of the “Dream Ticket.” Now, I can’t think of anything worse. Who does she think she is? I’ve never seen this side of Hillary and I REALLY don’t like it.“ I could not have said it any better.

O. Do yourself a huge favor. Don’t quit your day job as a manual laborer to become an analyst. Proper analysis requires more than hope, hype, and wishful thinking. Analysts must consider FACTS. That’s your word for the day. I suggest you visit dictionary dot comm

staniam – wishful thinking?

@indep4hillormccain
Yep, they lied without batting a eye and sold the story to the American people who apparently does not know the difference, just us political junkies. What do you call it when the MSM has been bought and paid for? If the SDs do not come to their senses by the time of the convention, they will come to them on November 4th – Election Day/DNC SmackDown!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Roger King – here are places for people like you – it is not here.

How about this for true change. A first African american president.. And a first female Vice president… unstoppable I think…. Change for sure… OBAMA/CLINTON ’08

sandy,
If it telliing yourself that makes you feel better, than by all means- knock yourself out. Go back and look at the stats..you’ll see what I mean!
As far as buyer’s remorse..I only hear that coming from a lot of white people who voted for Obama before the Rev. Wright/bittergate fiasco came to light! I think you and I both know, had these tapes been released by the pro Obama Media (who obviously knew of their existence because Fox News had them for over a year)Obama would have never made it past super Tuesday. I think you would agree with that. But anyway..Buenas noches a todos!

ruling class = owning class…. are you in denial that the richest owning class people control this country?

staniam – I have over 22 years more work than you have had but that is okay – you are just a whipper-snapper.
Night all! It has been fun but I have a busy day tomorrow and need to get to bed. Keep on arguing – no debating here – just arguing.

Write Hillary on the ballot. Obama is not democrats choice.

SMURFYGAL – Don’t know why you are screaming, but Obama has NOT won the nom yet, besides you know Obama needs Hillary so she can tell him what to do next. Just calm down…
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Hillary should not accept to be VP for obama. She should run as Independent or wait to 2012. obama remains unelectable

LeeLee07,
I hate to disappoint you, but he won’t need HRC’s supporters to win the Presidentcy. And really, they will not be turning over the nomination at the convention. TRUST ME.

pitbull
oh but they will need Hillary supporters… I guess you have taken over the disinformation and propaganda.. we know what you are up to… you will go down along with your dirty chicago politics!

jaidu
neither does nominating obama who has no chance in the GE

@PitBull67 – Well, I guess you Obama Supporters have spun everything else, so go ahead and spin those numbers. Maybe it will work for you.
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

staniam,
Say what you must but if you have read my predictions(scroll up)that what you are saying now will be trivial in NOVEMBER.

It’s very clear that the majority of these posters are Republicans pretending to be Democrats. Nice try, but the diatribes fail to fool the majority of us. Fact: Democrats will retake the WH in January.

carter??… get a grip.. obama is no carter… plus, i DO think the over-the-top oil profits SHOULD be taxed and dealt with… guess you are one of those strange ‘democrats’ who think the rich need all this money to stimulate the economy, while us peons support them… come on, fess up, you’re really a republican blogger posing as a democrat! and i’d be my last dollar you voted for Bush

Well PitBull61 – I don’t know if I actually believe in your predictions or not, but I have copied them and saved them. If Obama wins, I will look for you on these blogs and acknowledge you were right. Deal?
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Obama sneaks to Washingotn instead of going to Chicago, he goes to Hillary”s house and the headline of this article says that Hillary sneaks to see obama? Why do they continue with this?

LeeLee07,
Not to scare you away, but deal! Remember, LOVE and LIGHT goes farther than HATRED always. Look at my predictions truthfully and see what has come to fruition. What people don’t realize is HRC is an extroidanairy woman and will bounce back. What her downfall was in this election, and I say again, was her HUSBAND, HER STRATEGISTS, AND FLIPPING THE RACE CARD. HER SUPPORTERS ARE NOT HELPING HER CAUSE. Threatening to vote for MCcain is going to guess what? right, put BO right in the White House.

PittBull61 You are right. Senator Clinton should write her in on the ballot, not vote for Mccain or obama.

Libre,
Don’t have a clue what you are saying here.

the rabbit Look at the Demographics of obama’s supporters, hardly “highly educated”

Obama was probably trying to “Whup her” to agree for complete endorsement!
If you have not heard teh “Whup them” story ..here it is:
” At a town hall meeting on health care at Virginia High School, a 95-year-old voter gave the expected nominee a maple walking stick he had carved himself with the intention of giving it to Obama. Obama thanked the man and then, admiring his new gift, said “If members of Congress don’t pass my health care plan, I’ll whup them, I’ll whup them. That’s right, don’t mess with me, I’ll have my stick.”
Whup them??? So this is the CHANGE he is talking about! got it!

Obama blocked the will of the people in Florida and Michigan, he is Anti-Democratic. He won’t have the Democrats vote.

NO McCain = NO PAIN
No Pain McCain…lol

Not all Obama supporters are as rude as some in these forums. I was, and still am for Clinton. And I am for Obama. To all the diehard Hillary supporters that plan to vote McCain: The enemy of you enemy is not your friend. And Obama isn’t even your enemy. Obama will enact 90% of the things Hillary was in favor of. McCain will enact NONE of them. Forget about women’s rights under McCain. You aren’t punishing Obama supporters by voting McCain – you are punishing yourself, women, and your county. The Republicans are chortling away over this – and they WILL take advantage of you for it. Think about it, please!

Libre: Oboma didn’t block the will of Michigan and Florida’s people, their legislatures did. They played a bluff game and lost. To characterize it differently is intellectually dishonest.

@PitBull61 – Yes, but by that time she had lost just about all of the AA votes, thanks to MSM. Everybody knew it. The pundits talked about it endlessly, the papers reported it, the polls showed it and it was all over the blogs. She quoted an AP article and like Bill before her, she said the truth. There was no lie, no spin, just the truth. Blacks don’t like to hear it, but by that time, 90% of the blacks were voting for Obama and they did that up until the end so what does that make us? It only emphasized the truth of the matter. The SC lie, and the Ferraro flap was done to death – So much so, that Keith Olbermann/MSNBC gave a rant about how racist she was. The very next day Jeremiah Wright makes his appearance. CNN had their commentators talking about how they “understood” why Wright felt that way and that all black churches were like that. Really??? Keith Olberman never said a word. MSM is still trying to give Obama a pass on this matter. They have not labeled Obama racist as they have the Clintons. Double standard? I think so.
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

given her long-running fight for the best interests of many women and children throughout her life, it logically follows that anyone who hates Senator Clinton does not appreciate her work for others and such Clinton-haters would rather have Senator Clinton helpless and having a positive effect on others….therefore, haters of Hillary hate women and children…..

pittbull61
it will happen… Hillary got 18 million votes as well as Obama and if anything Obama was a patsy for Clinton!… you will accpet it… you will accept hillary!

I would like to express my opinion to my fellow Democrats about this whole primary fiasco:
The Democrats should have won this election.
People wanted them to win.
Senator Obama is not vetted, and unknown with minimum experience.
For this man, with all of his “scary” friends and beliefs, to stand tall as our Democratic nominee is absurd.
He is still not vetted and because of that alone, he will lose this general election to McCain. McCain is a safe bet regardless if he is a Republicans.
Democrats would have won, if Hillary was on the top of the ticket.
Now that Obama has blocked votes from Michigan and Florida and taken delegates from Senator Clinton he will win the primary. But was it really worth it for him to win the ruling not to seat Michigan and Florida to lose those same states in November?
Americans are not stupid. Obama fought for the government. Hillary fought for the people. Who would want a President to not stand up for them?
I will not vote this year along with many in my community. All of us are disgusted with the media coverage for all candidates, even President Bush, but especially for the relentless daily attacks on whites and Senator Clinton.
I am totally embarrassed to have to stand up for Obama, his wife and radical friends and pastors that surround this candidate. I will never be proud of Senator Obama pertaining to his treatment of Michigan and Florida voters. Florida is still raw since the last election and Michigan votes were indeed “hijacked” from Senator Clinton. This was appalling to watch and very disrespectful to American voters.
If Obama becomes the winner, all Democrats will have to defend his patriotism, his radical left views, his Pastor and Church and God knows what else will turn up until the General election. Florida and Michigan will not forget that their voices were silenced either.
What is so sad, the Democrats had a prayer with Clinton: all the right voting blocs, she attracted big states, white men and women, military voters, Latinos, Jewish voters, Cuban voters, Catholics and Women. She fought for Michigan and Florida, the people mattered.
Now the Democrats have a man, a newcomer, that is strong with elitist and African Americans, wins states like Alaska and Hawaii and has a problem with all of those blocs of voters that Democrats need to win.
Democrats, had Senator Clinton, the strongest candidate in their grasp. Now the weaker of the two, Senator Obama, bubbles to the top with no credentials. Democrats truly blew it.
This is the first time in my life that I am NOT proud to be a Democrat. I am totally embarrassed of our candidate.
Clinton does not need Obama. Obama needs Clinton, without a doubt.

I am an independent who intends to vote for Obama.
If Hillary is offered ANY position by Obama, VP, Cabinet, etc., I will vote for McCain.
I bet there are a lot more of me (independents) than there are disgruntled Hillary supporters.

Last sentence should have been better phrased:
I bet there are a lot more independents he will lose by offering Hillary anything at all than disgruntled Hillary supporters he will gain.

wah wah wah…I won’t vote for Obama wah wah wah…He’s dishonest
wah wha wah…I’ll vote for McCain
Ok got it…vote for him and shut up with the whining and threats. Just do it and be happy you did

I was listening to Obama speeches, a demagogy, one which blow sentences in rhythm without substances, reminding on the technique Hitler and Mussolini uses. Scare the #### out of me .

NO MATTER WHO OBAMA PUTS ON THE TICKET, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM. WHAT GOOD JUDGEMENT, OBAMA/ YOU SAT IN A CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS THAT TAUGHT GD AMERICA.

Guess who else supports Obama: Fidel the great: Fidel Castro, who wrote in a column for Cuba’s Granma newspaper Monday that Obama is “the most progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency.” Dont forget that Hugo Chavez and ahkmadinanutjob has also endorsed Obama. And. Jimmy the peanut Carter as well. George “to hell with America” McGovern and that US dollar shorting George “communist” Soros. What a FINE group of friends Obama has.

I guess Hillary Supporters are really doing pretty good during this recession/depression, foreclosure record season, war-time, environmental nightmare.. yeah they are doing pretty good to utter the words I’ll Vote for McSame or not vote at all.. they are pretty happy indeed..

Just a comment: If Hillary is so hated by the people of the USA, then how come Obama only got about 1% more of the popular vote when he is so loved?

The Obama Kool-Aid drinkers try to tell people that a vote for McCain is a 3rd term Bush when in FACT a vote for Obama is a 3rd term Bush. Obama is more like Bush than McCain will ever be. Both Bush and Obama are arrogant Media created FAKES!

To Lake Hart – A Native American Writer
You are a total FOOL if you think for one minute that us Hillary supporters will ever support Obama, the Media created FAKE. If you love your children and your country than you would NEVER vote for the Media created FAKE called Obama. It does not matter what party you belong to ,America comes FIRST.

Just a comment: If Hillary is so hated by the people of the USA, then how come Obama only got about 1% more of the popular vote when he is so loved?
Posted by: Paul from Texas | Jun 6, 2008 8:02:14 AM
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Because she is NOT hated. People voted for their CHOICE, not against anyone.
I prefer Obama, but I certainly don’t hate Clinton. It was just about electability for me. That’s all.

Listening to Obama speak, we are left to wonder if he is not the next prophet for he presents himself as a miracle worker. Scary part is that he’s gathering a lot of blind followers with his message of change. Dangerous !!!!

OK, I’m going to apologize in advance as this does not help the greater discussion and if Senator Clinton had won the nomination, I certainly would hhave voted for her but…not only does she live in an exclusive community in New York, it seems that her house in DC is grand enough to have a name. And the irony of the name is not lost on me. McCain, while an American hero, will get trounced this Fall because the Democratic platform of ideas is far superior to the Republicans’.

I was listening last night to the New York delegation including superdelegates expressing their views on the primary. None of them are happy about the way HRC is conducting herself.
One even compared her to a “Queen” who had lost her thrown. They were disgusted that she hasn’t conceded yet aand she is acting like a spoiled child.

Kate,
You just disrespect the DNC, the Democratic Party and thousands of leaders, including the Kennedy, Carter, Richardson +++ get with the program, media is not for Obama, media is to sell advertising. Like Hillary Clinton, be a true Democrat and support our team, support America. Stop the war and bring our children home, promote peace and prosperity, not anger and hatred. Sincerely, Lake Hart.

Oh, gee whiz, I guess the Obama Kool Aid Kids are right.
Let’s elect Obama, with his whopping two years of federal experience, most of which he has simply spent posturing and campaigning for the presidency.
Let’s elect Obama so he can put his Marxist beliefs into practice including that punitive marginal tax rates are good policy despite even Charles Gibson explaining to him that revenues increase with lower rates.
Let’s elect Obama, whose foreign relations experience consists solely of watching “Lawrence of Arabia” one night with his wife while the kids were upstairs asleep.
Let’s elect Obama, whose senior campaign advisor is already meeting secretly with the Palestinian terrorist organization HAMAS.
Let’s elect Obama, who has maintained a close, 25-year relationship with Jeremiah Wright and the hateful Black Nationalist movement. Then Obama pretends he didn’t know Wright is a bad guy.
Let’s elect Obama, who has a 17-year relationship with Chicago’s preeminant slum lord and scum bag Antoni Rezko, who helps Obama buy his house. Then Obama pretends he didn’t know Rezko is a bad guy.
Let’s elect Obama, who launches his state senate campaign with an event at the home of terrorist Bill Ayers, serves on a charity board with Ayers and gives speeches with Ayers. Then Obama pretends he barely knows the guy.
Let’s elect Obama, who promised us “change” in Illinois too, but has done nothing but cut deals to enrich himself and his wife while cashing our paychecks.
Let’s elect Obama, who cleverly flips off Clinton during a speech following his loss in Pennsylvania and smirks while the crowd cheers.
Let’s elect Obama, whose wife believes “America is a downright mean country” and that “It’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions, it makes you feel justified in your own ignorance…that’s America.”
Let’s elect Obama, who is a product of the Daley Machine, one of the most vile and corrupt political organizations in the history of mankind.
And the list goes on and on.
Gee, what’s not to like about Obama? Sure, he has experience, character and judgment to be the most powerful leader in the world during these especially challenging times. How tough can it be? LOL

The reason that the Obama supporters cannot stop their name calling is because they are mostly young kids (teenagers and college kids) with very little life experience, no real knowledge of history or foreign affairs. I would dare say that none have ever had a mortgage or have had to pay for health insurance until recently if at all. They are part of a spoiled, “me” generation whose biggest concern is how to pay their college loans while continuing to purchase the latest Blackberry, ipod, etc.

Obama’s new concern about Israel is just Pandering for votes just like his new concern now for Florida and Michigan
Why would Obama speak before a muslim group asking for assistance for Palestine in 1990? This concern about Israel by Obama is just so much political rhetric.

If you are SICK of the HATE and RACE issues than you must be SICK of Obama because he is the one that started everything by USING THE RACE CARD EVERYTIME SOMEONE DISAGREED WITH HIM.
Obama is full of lies and uses words better then anyone else…he used race and sexism trying to win the nomination ..he is now using age to run against Mccain….Obama is a slick used car sales man in a nice suit…listen to hs words he belittles people and uses them beter then most politicians which makes him the most dangerous.

Ted, you are right about the kids that support Obama, the voting age needs to be raised to 40, and people should have to take a common sense test before they are allowed to vote. That would eliminate 75% of the people that are voting today.

If you owned a company say microsoft worth billions of dollars and wanted someone to take over and run it for you would you hire someone that talks good and knows nothing about computer software and business or would you hire someone that was a software guru and years of experience in business? What choice would you make with your money on the line?

For all you Hillary supporters who say “Ill Vote For McCain!” You were never true Democrats! If you were really democrat there would be no way that after 8 years of a dictatorship with crooked policies and the ruination of our economy and standing in the world that you could even think of voting for another republican. You cant tell yourself with a straight face that McCain is the third bush term. I used to think that Bush was stupid but McCain blows him straight off the Stupidity radar. They called Kerry a flip-flop but he must have learned all his tricks from McCain. And to all the republicans getting cocky that while the democrats may be just now adjusting to the new nominee that you know that Hillary will have them all jump to Barack by convention time and then you will have the press coverage all over the Democratic convention with people not even remembering when the republican one is. And then we get to the debates where Obama will nail in the final nail into McCains political coffin. It wont even be close come November.

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer-
If you do not like the truth than do not read post.Whin, that is all you Obama supporters know how to do.You have learnt how to whin from Obama.Now that is a good student!

30middle -
What you Obama supporters DO NOT understand is that alot of AMERICANS will put America FIRST and Party second. They are still good Democrats but even better Americans. Hillary supporters will not hand thae White House to a MEDIA created FAKE who in his own words when speaking about White People in his book “THAT HATE HADN’T GONE AWAY”.
McCain 2008

What makes you Obama supporters think Hillary is demanding the VP job .She doesn’t need it she will still continue her fight for healthcare and all the other things she has fought for .She did what no other woman ever did .So get off her back .VP or no VP she will work as hard as she has all along to help Mr.Obama win the white house !!!!

What a bunch of idiots – The republicns orchastrated this whole thing so that Mccain would run against Obama. This was all part of the Rush Limbaugh Operation Chaos. Get us fighting among ourselves and use race to assure themselves a win in November. The republicans know that those of us who have served in the military, work in shops, and have enjoyed life as part of the middle class are not likely to vote for Obama. The PC crowd at the DNC is more interested in having a black male candidate than a white female president. I think its time for a new party, one that represents the views of the average American

The truth is, if Barack Obama wants to be seen as a true agent for change, he can’t have the lobbyist-heavy Clinton on his ticket. If he didn’t kneel before her supporters’ every demand, she’d find ways to undercut his presidency with her power-hungry connections.
Agree or disagree with him, the only way he stays independent of monied power-brokers who want more of the same is by NOT putting her on the ticket. And he might lose some Democrats if he doesn’t mput her on the ticket, but he beats McLame even without her.

I have a friend that is a long time Democrat and i always avoid talking politics with her because our views are always different, but las night we were able to talk politics with no problems. She supported Hillary and will never vote for Obama. She is fed up with her party and the media coverage for Obama. She will vote McCain regardless of what Hillary does. Thank you DNC for doing somthing I could have never done.

Terry: You don’t know politics at all. You better starting reading books. Obama is popular but not as popular as JFK or RFK because they didn’t need anyone to win the presidency. Obama does need Hillary and she has him in a bind if she isn’t on the ticket. She can declare herself as an independent and take several thousand votes or many a million or more from him and he would lose to McCain. This country hasn’t had a shocker since 9/11 but believe me they will get one if Obama is elected president. Hillary is ten times smarter in politics than Obama ever will be plus she has been to several countries. She never need to use someone else’s speeches like Obama used the speeches of RFK because he couldn’t form the words himself. Like RUSH stated on radio Obama cannot do anything for himself only if its crooked.

Did you guys not read the article previous to this one…..49,000 people are have loss their jobs. Unemployment is at all time high!
If you’re not one of those people that has been impacted by that article or have not lost your home to forclosure or does not have lost a child in this senseless war or enjoys paying high gas prices then Mccain is your man.
America needs a change! We’ve suffered enough. We’ve taking our chances on he republicans for the last 8 years and they have failed us miserably. And if you managed to escape without any of things impacting your lives then God bless you…but too many other people weren’t as fortunate.

Obama and Hillary – The DREAM TEAM
How amazingly exciting to be alive to see the first African American Candidate for president! With the first female Presidential Candidate as Vice President! Unstoppable!
Great Days ahead for our great country!

Just think of all the fossil fuel they wasted…. but I’m sure BO will tell us how much we are wasting!

: Mariann Pepitone,
okay you talk about how much you know and all but so far have made NO good points… clintons little obliterate iran was what didnt help , what would send us to war… THEY EVEN SAID So…

Melissa, john, johnny I understand, Obama, berry????

I think that anyone who is willing to vote against their best interst just becasue they feel their candidate got the short end of the stick is an idiot. Whoever will let John McCain appoint the next (maybe 2) Supreme court justice that wants to overturn Roe v Wade just for spite is an idiot. The person that will let John McCain keep us in Iraq indefinitely because they are mad at the media is an idiot. The person that will let 45million people go another decade without adequate healthcare because they are mad at Obama is an idiot.
How can you possibly validate voting against everything Hillary stood for just becasue she isn’t on the ballot? This country’s future is still on that ballot. I will bet dollars to doughnuts that even if Hillary is not the VP candidate she will still vote for Obama, Bill Clinton will be voting for Obama, Chelsea will still be voting for Obama. Do you know why they will? Because they are not IDIOTS!!!!
Get a clue.

Ok, enough of the slandering each other. We need to try to unify this party. I disagree with both Hillary and Obama, but I’m not going to skewer either one of them now. We have a major contest in November and I want a Democratic President. My biggest fear is that Obama/Clinton supporters will become complacent and just think the Dems have it in the bag. I’m 50 years old, and I will tell you younger voters, the Republicans will be out if full force and the war will be on. The Obama and Clinton fury was miniscule to what the GOP will be doing in the fall. We have to be ready. If the Dems can’t unify, put our personal bias’ behind us, then we will lose in November. I don’t want to see this. I was 100% Hillary Clinton, but I can swallow my pride and vote for the Dems…..lets join, not continue to divide. Just my opinion!

Gee, anyone who won’t vote for Obama is a racist, a sore loser,a closet republican, or an idiot according to Obama supporters.
Way to woo the base to your side.
Yeah, you don’t need us.
Sure, we won’t REALLY vote for McCain (whose patriotism and honor has never been called into question) in November.
We will let slide Rezko, Wright, Palmer, typical white, religion clinging, gun toting, lying, sexist, people and attitudes, etc., etc., etc.
We will come together in the end for the sake of the party.
Sure we will. After all, the party has treated Hillary supporters so swell.
Har, Har, Hardy, Har, Har.

Hillary, Barack, we need you to team together. It’s going to take all the resources we got to fix this Republican nightmare.

Hillary CANNOT run as an independent. The rules of presidential candidates state that a party candidate who loses their primary is INELIGIBLE to run as an independent. (Rule II.A.) That’s it.

Mariann Pepitone ,.
we were warned that 911 would happen we just didnt listen and we are the ones who were in bed with bin laden before that so we knew he wasnt someone we should have been friendly with or someone we should have ignored.. but instead of going after him full force we played ring around the rosie with our mens lives in iraq for what? second of all the your talking about we need to be friendly to iran? well im pretty sure like i said before that clintons remarks and mccains pastor remarks were much more damaging than anything you can say about obama and maybe the fact that we gave chemical weapons to iraq to use against iran didnt help us…

Yeah let her run Independent. That way they will split the vote and keep the Republicans in power for 4 more years. Just like what Perot did that got us stuck with the freaking Clintons in the first place. She would NEVER be able to garner enough votes if she did that. And there are plenty of Democrats who will refuse to vote for Obama if he puts her on the ticket… people who can see through her BS. We’d be the laughingstock of the world with a Clinton in the White House again.

Chuck,
im not so sure hillary will win in 2012// if she runs against a white or a women she is toast..
thanks to the fact that some supporters went to her because of race and others were republican switching over only for primary’s and if obama doesnt win we will know its because of her supporters so when she runs against they will all vote against her as a way to keep this stupid pay back thing going and in the end her supporters lose again.. but dont let that stop you!!

george,
You’re right!
Barrack Obama is to much left wing!
I don’t think this country is ready for a Marxist radical leader!
My vote is for McCain!

I am for McCain!
Obama is too much problem to swallow for me!
I hope Hillary won’t accept his VP spot!
or he won’t aske her ,
what ever but it will eb alot stronger for John McCain to gain her supporters if she is NOt on the ticket!
I will pary for that!
McCain 2008!
Hillary 2012!

Kathleen: When did Hillary start playing by the rules?

Ted ,
i almost forgot to say that i agree that my daughter and EVERYONE black or white must take responsibility for the action they take.. and i dont think that the single fathers thing is about color more than age, i think the youth is in trouble they have many kids and dont take care of them but this problem isnt new when a man left a women alot of times he left his kids too he may have seen them on occasion and supported them though this is changing because women accept it almost encourage it when women that are willing to support a man and not make him act like a man… i b*tch about it daily to the girls i know that do that very thing… we cant complain about our boyfriends or husbands acting childish if we allow them to act like kids.. and cosby is right on what i have seen from him, yes agree!

Mariann Pepitone ,
depends on who she is running against..what votes she gets.. and how she does things from here on out..

Sue: Wake up: Hillary won CA, NV, NY, NJ, OH, TN, TX long before the Wright comments appeared on TV. Where have you been? It was after the Wright and Father P that she won PR, WVA, KY and SD. WVA, KY and SD are racial states and make no bones about it. Montana is a neighbor of SD but that state is not. Some of the states she won is not because of Obama being half black they felt that with another Clinton in the white house the economy would turn around and there would be no deficit again. More jobs would be filled. Race will always be an issue in Illinois and other states. I don’t have a problem with the black people and never had.

Mariane Pepitone at 10:13- I will tell you what I think. I think that the democratic party is irrelevant or becoming that way. I believe that Ted Kennedy saw the young voters coming out for Obama and pushed Obama (first to endorse and pressured other DNC insiders) in order to give new life to the FUTURE of the democratic party. I don’t think that his concern was focused on this election as much as the future of the party. He appealed to the new voters (knew that he would have 95% of the black vote as they have proven to vote race – example: Oprah) and with his help, the help of democratic party leaders, and a lot of help from the media crowned Obama as early as January in order to save the future of the party regardless of screwing the country in the present.

I am not a George Bush fan, I think he has made a lot of mistakes. My nephew served in Iraq, as well as several of my close friends sons. I was totally against going into Iraq, however, these young men and women have changed my mind. They all have stated that the American public doesnt understand that our military presence is needed in Iraq and that Bush made the right decision. I came back and said I felt it wasn’t fair that we have lost so many soldiers over there and the heartbreak it has brought. They were quick to answer that these soldiers died honoring America, thats why they enlisted in the first place.

It doesn’t matter if Obama were black or white, however, I just feel he has no substance on the issues. I agree, he “flip-flops” back and forth and its hard to get a straight answer from him. I don’t totally agree with McCain either, however, I feel he has a better grip on things that matter, i.e. the war, foreign affairs, the eonomy, the capital gains tax, than Obama. At this point, I’m a Democrat that will vote for McCain…..only because of the issues at hand.

i dont hate mccain i just dont think he is right on the war! and even he admitted that he doesnt know jack about economy..what is he doing that is so different ON THE ISSUES than bush??

Melissa,
You choose your church and you can disown family if need be.
If I go to a rock and roll club on Friday nights on a regular basis over a 20 year period had my wedding in the club you would call me a rock and roller, and you would not beleive that I did not like the music or the people hanging out in that club.

Get a grip on your bitterness fellow democrats. Do you REALLY want another warmongering, deficit spending, Country Club Republican in the White House for 8 more years? Be careful what you wish for…

Obama was wearing a wire. Trust me!!

The democratic party claims to love and respect women, but obviously that isn’t true. There is no way that I would vote for empty suit obama. He voted present 100 times while in the Senate. Calling him worthless would be a compliment.

I will not vote for Obama no matter who his VP is.

How can you talk of experience. The person who has it is a former pres. No one else has been be4. Obama has consistently exhibited great judgement which makes a good President.
Advisers are there for the experience, Presidents makes sound judgement based on good advise. An experienced President can make a bad judgement eg GWBush dragging us to war in Iraq.
Follow the Dems they have the answers.
However, the choice is yours. The future of your generations are involved.
Are we saying no young American can lead us?
Republicans knows it, this time around, they have lost it. Hillary did the right thing today, she is a hero!The question is what are you?

After the outright stolen nomination of Barack Obama. I’am now a registered Independent. The Crooked, backbiting, underhanded DNC and Democratic Party will never choose who I vote for. I believe that Barack Obama has many skeletons rattling around in his closet and the Republicans can’t wait to let them all out and I’m going to sit back, pop some popcorn and watch it all unfold on the likes of CNN, MSNBC, and maybe Fox News. The fact of the matter is this. Obama knows that he can’t win the general without Hillary that is why he hurried up and met with her in private. But the damage has already been done. The High handed idiots that run the DNC have split the party down the middle for good. We will never forget what that did to us all, and especially to Hillary Clinton. Come on Republican attack machine I can’t wait!