Jun 1, 2008 4:54am

Obama Explains Why He Quit Church

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., held a long press availability in Aberdeen, South Dakota Saturday night to discuss his resignation from Trinity United church.

"Michelle and I told Rev Otis Moss that we were withdrawing as members of Trinity. It’s a decision that Michelle and I had discussed for quite some time after the National Press Club episode. I had discussed it with Rev. Moss. We had prayed on it. We had consulted with a number of friends and family members who are also connected to the church. And so this is not decision I come to lightly, and frankly it is one that I make with some sadness," Obama said in prepared remarks.

Obama praised the current pastor of Trinity, Rev. Moss and said that he continues to admire the work that Rev. Jeremiah Wright did in building up the church.

He insisted that Trinity itself is not a church worth denouncing. "I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church, because it’s not a church worthy of denouncing, and so if they’ve seen caricatures of the church and except those caricatures despite my insistence that that’s not what the church is about, then there’s not much I can do about it."

But the presidential candidate made clear that because of the scrutiny that some of the people at the church have been subjected to because of his association with Trinity that seperatation from the church is best for all parties involved.

"It’s clear that now that I’m a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity including guest pastors, the remarks will be imputed to me even if they totally conflict with my long held views, statements and principles. We obviously saw an example of that in the recent statements by Father Pfleger, who is somebody who I’ve know, who I consider a friend, who has done tremendous work in Chicago but made offensive statements that have no place in our politics and in the pulpit that unfairly mocked and characterized Senator Clinton in ways that I think are unacceptable."

Obama said Trinity has suffered with the controversies: sighting news organizations harassing members, and picking at the current sermons, "It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace.

Obama said that had the letter he wrote not been leaked he would have just made a simple statement about their resignation, in an attempt to minimize the fallout.

"This was a pretty personal decision and I wasn’t trying to make political theater out of it."

Obama said he sat down with his wife and had a long conversation about the future of their relationship with the church, a conservation that started back in April and continued with the recent Pfleger controversy, "My suspicion at that time, and Michelle shared this concern, it was going to be very difficult to maintain membership there so long as I was running for president. The recent episode with Father Pfleger just reinforced that."

Obama said that at the start of the campaign he never would have expected this much scrutiny to be put on his faith, "which we knew there was going to be some things that we didn’t see coming, this was one. You know I did not anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subject to such challenge and such scrutiny. Initially with emails suggesting that I was a Muslim, later with you know the controversy that trinity generated."

Obama made clear the search for a new church would not be easy, and he insinuated his family is not in a rush to settle on one.

"Michelle and I, our lives are fairly unsettled right now. We don’t know how this nomination is going to go; we don’t know how the remainder of this election is going to go. I am traveling all the time anyway, so I am gone of Sundays often times, so probably wont make a firm decision on this until January where when we know what our lives are going to be like," Obama said and added that they will visit other churches in Chicago in the meantime.

"The important thing is I’m not going to approach it with the view of figuring our how to avoid political problems. That’s not the role of church." Obama said repeatedly.

Obama said in no way is his faith being tested by this split, "my faith is not contingent on the particular church that I belong to. I don’t think that I’m going through a religious test."

Obama said that God will lead his family to the right church, "This is where you trust in God’s will. I assume that he will lead us to a place where we can worship him and do good work but it does raise an important point.

Obama made a larger point about the need for separation between a candidates thoughts and words and that of what is preached from their church, "My hope would be that any presidential candidate can go to a church and hear a sermon and even hear some controversial statements without those views being imputed to him and subjected to the same exacting political tests that a presidential candidate or that presidential candidate statements would be. Now we’ll see how this works out going forward."

User Comments

I heard the whole speech and press question and answer and he was more concerned with the media scrutiny of Trinity than the hateful Black Liberation Theology yelled from the pulpit to the cheering congregation. Wow…Wright is right….Obama does what he has to as a politician. He’s had more renounce, denounce, reject moments in this campaign than in any I can remember in my 49 years. The one I see coming next is angry Michelle on tape blaming whitey….then what, he’ll have to throw her under the bus to get to the WH?

Posted by: Debra | June 1, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am

What to self-indulgent pastors have to do with worship?

Posted by: Bob | June 1, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am

This is something he should have done a long time ago. He is still going to be smeared with the brush of that church, & he is too smart to not know it. This is a church of hatemongers. If this was a white church, everyone would be all over them like a dirty shirt, wondering why they still have their tax-exempt status.

Posted by: M.T. | June 1, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am

What is very unfortunate is how the new media has become a news story creator vs. a reporter. They way the different news stations cover the news to continue to generate controversy, ratings, and profit is truly disgusting. The US media should be ashamed, but corporations serve a different function as we all know.

Posted by: Tomas | June 1, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am

Obama describes the tirade against Hillary as “unacceptable”?
Such an understatement is in itself “unacceptable” – and outright offensive.
And yes, he seems to be saying that he’s cutting ties with his church because it’s not fair to the church to get scrutinized like this. That seems to be his main concern!
Also, this Father Pfleger is someone who Obama has previously described as one of his main spiritual mentors, along w/Wright!
So I don’t try to pass him off as some random ‘guest pastor’ – if this is one of Obama’s friends/advisors then just imagine what the real fringe loonies of his church must be like!

Posted by: Sarah | June 1, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

Let me second what Ryan said. “Except?” “Sighting?” Seriously, I know some good copy editors who’d love the work, and it’d make it easier to focus on your reporting if I didn’t flinch every other paragraph.

Posted by: James | June 1, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

It’s kind of amazing how much questioning Obama has to go through on the same non-issues simply because he’s capable of giving an intelligent, thought-out response. I like the fact he’s not spitting out phony canned responses, which is characteristic of more “experienced” politicians. On this issue, Obama has been hounded by the press about happenings in his church that have NOTHING to do with the American people. Whatever some guy in his church is railing about this week isn’t going to change the amount of dollars in my wallet or the number of our people dying in a foreign country. Either the press is too robotic to ask questions about real issues, or Americans are too comfortable to care.

Posted by: phil | June 1, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am

There are too many misspellings and typo’s in this article, like the use of “except” where it should be “accept”, and “seperatation” instead of “seperation”.

Posted by: Bob | June 1, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am

Damage Control.
Not because of the scrutiny of the church. Because Of the reflection of the Extreme Racist the church portrays publicly.
The Cheers and Applause for Racism, The Pastor Thanking God for the Sermon on Racism. making it evident it is and has been acceptable in the church and hearts and minds and souls of those attending the church.
Mr Obama says what he has to politically.
He leaves his church Not because his does not believe what they teach, and believe in. Rather he leaves because it might lose him a vote.
He has Failed miserably at Addressing the main issue or controversy. He leaves his church to insure votes.
He blames the media and the people of the country for this. Not the beliefs and teachings and sermons or the doctrine of the church are wrong, unacceptable and Racist, vile and hateful. To him it is only controversial.
Rev Wright was right about Mr Obama, he says what he has to as a political.
He Has failed, the people, His church and himself miserably.
He turned and ran, and not addresses the issue and serious problem and outrageous and evil practices behavior of his church, his friends and himself.
He Failed to tell them they are horribly wrong. What they are doing is Absolutely Unacceptable, Hateful, and evil.
That inciting racism, Attacking people with personal attacks, and spewing Political attacks from a pulpit, a church from people is something he can not accept, be part of and is wrong on every level. That they need to stop and never do it again.
He has failed again.
If he handles matters of state and government this way. The country is doomed. Distancing himself from it so he does not have to deal with it, and that it might look unfavorably on him.
He severed Ties and ran.
Telling the country and the world, racism is only controversial. It is best Not to deal with it head on and solve the problem. If you run away from it Hopefully you do not have to deal with it personally.
Mr Obama you are absolutely worthless!

Posted by: seah | June 1, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am

This is a person aspiring for the country’s highest position. Supposedly such a person should have character, own judgement and at least some form of moral guidance. This is not hope for a new politics this is the hope of a weather vane, a change we can believe in.

Posted by: Peter | June 1, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Matutu – Obama left the CHURCH. He left the BUILDING and the PEOPLE. He did not leave his faith. Obama probably left that churche because his campaigning has taught him that he doesn’t want his daughters poisoned by the crud and horror being spewed out of that church every Sunday – and other days of the week, if they’r like other churches. “RELIGION” is belief practiced in public.
“FAITH” is belief practiced alone.

Posted by: Kaelinda | June 1, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

My suspicion at that time, and Michelle shared this concern, it was going to be very difficult to maintain membership there so long as I was running for president. The recent episode with Father Pfleger just reinforced that
KEY WORDS -SO LONG AS I WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT
WRIGHT IS RIGHT.

Posted by: geevill | June 1, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

“no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States Constitution”
I think this means that the delegates cannot use this type of “news” at the convention. I wonder if the media can be held accountable for sensationalizing ignorance.
Freedom of religion is what this country was founded on, yet the only thing the media is concerned with is what OTHER PEOPLE SAY AND DO at Obama’s former church. What a shame. What a pity.
Obama ’08

Posted by: Faith | June 1, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

obama has dumped his church because he’s a scum.The chuch had done all it could to help him, now it’s not, so
bye bye Christ and church

Posted by: trettine | June 1, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

Now that his poll numbers are sinking, Barack Obama is throwing Trinity UCC off the bus alongside his grandmother. What has become clear is that Senator Obama built his political career in Chicago by associating with the most extreme elements in the city. As a lifelong Democrat, I cannot vote for Obama. John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: Graniteman | June 1, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

I imagine the pastors at his church are just very excited that Obama is going to be our next president…..And knowing how crazy pastors can be and get when they are excited, They do seem to go a bit over board!
It is a wise decision for Obama to distance himself from these very excited pastors. I’m sure they do more for the community than any elected official, That’s a positive thing.
Its a good idea to look at the good in people instead of the bad. But some are just so bitter in their own lives they cant get past their own bitterness to see the good in others.

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

“It’s clear that now that I’m a candidate for president” PERHAPS CLEAR IN HIS MIND BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. Hillary Clinton now has more popular vote and sometimes Obama, Superdelegates can change their minds although it appears that the DNC committee members (27 people) have “decided for” us all who they want as their candidate, and it does not matter what the voters want. So why have the primaries?
Obama believes the long held views, statements and principles of his church and he will not denounce the church, although he is resigning from the church well for now, to win the Election.
His judgment is about as bad as it gets people.

Posted by: Anne | June 1, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Anne,
How do you figure Hillary has more popular vote than Obama?

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Excellent post G.N!!
Something positive, When Hillary is finally pushed aside, She will then use her time to reverse the hate she has caused. That’s a given…

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

He might make a bad judgement to go to this church though his mistake didn’t cost hundreds of thousands of american lives

Posted by: Guy | June 1, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

I saw the press conference and I thought Obama explained himself extremely well. For someone who takes his religious faith seriously I can understand how the decision must have been a difficult one to make. Obama came across as someone genuinely concerned at the effect his presidential campaign is having on the church, its members, and the work it does in the community. The media scrutiny they have been subjected to is unprecedented, and it’s all “gotcha” journalism too. I’m amazed at all the snarkiness I’ve seen on this board, too. It’s OK to disagree politically with the man without questioning his commitment to his faith as well. I’d venture that there aren’t many true Christians contributing to this debate at the moment.

Posted by: Mark O | June 1, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

I’ll say this: These preachers haven’t said anything worse than what I have read on these blogs.
Obama is correct, his campaign brings scrutiny, that is unwarranted to this church. These people are not politician, and are not running for office, and are doing good work in neighborhoods where most of us will not even go.
Obama08

Posted by: Thinking | June 1, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

My, my, don’t we have a whole lot of bitter people out this morning. This is all rather amusing. Even the insults are lame.

Posted by: Mark O | June 1, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Umar,
My, my lets attack Obama because he has a funny name! Good grief like a persons name makes the person!??
You guys are so lame, Unbelievable!

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

^^It is a sad day in America when you get blame for everything that goes on in your church, while running for a public office. Yes, Article 6 states “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States Constitution”.^^
Soooo, does THAT mean nobody can question, nor blame, a candidate on his religious views????
No, it doesn’t mean that.
Reporters can. I can. You can.
The Constitution requires government to stay away from religious qualifications for office. It doesn’t tell me that I can’t, for example, go into the polling booth with MY standards for the candidate and use them as my measure of him.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | June 1, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

You would think if Hillary was so popular with Americans she would have won by a landslide against the unknown Senator Obama!
Hillary is a fake, and the only ones who go crazy over her are a bunch of old shrews!

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

“I now have it from two three four sources…”
Yeah, right – I saw this same post last week. If the video exists, why are they waiting to release it in the fall? Especially with so many sources knowing about it. Lame.

Posted by: Mark O | June 1, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

OBAMA DID WHAT HE HAD TO AND EVERYBODY KNEW IT

Posted by: mike moore | June 1, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Its a GRAT day in America when a black man is elected as President of the USA!!
Americans make me proud, Thank you to all who can look at the person and not the persons skin color!
OBAMA 08′

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Paula,
You really have your “facts” mixed up, But thats not uncommon among bitter OLD shrews for Hillary!

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

trettine,
“speaking of ignorance, Faith you need to learn what the religous test means.
It seems Obama atracts the most ignorant among us.”
why don’t you tell us who the delegates are? i have faith that you mean when you say “Obama attracts the most ignorant among us”, you mean he attracts a lot of uneducated people want to throw stones at him for non-issues. if so, i agree. that’s why the media should not feed into their ignorance.
you *do* realize who the delegates are, don’t you?
obama ’08

Posted by: faith | June 1, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

“You would think if Hillary was so popular with Americans she would have won by a landslide against the unknown Senator Obama!”
It’s not just popularity that wins elections.

Posted by: Faisal Smith | June 1, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

^^Obama is a uniter not a divider!^^
You mean that he unites the half-value votes with the full-value votes????

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | June 1, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

~sigh~
maybe someday americans will get a candidate who’s smart enough to not go to church at all

Posted by: snaxalotl | June 1, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

It is not about religion or his church. It is about what he is willing to say and do to get elected.
We know little about him, so we only have his words. He stated the original comments were false, and he could not deny his pastor. That was until his pastor stated something against him. Than drop drop. This flip flop is a problem when we have only his, I repeat his, stated character to judge.
I think he will make a god leader, but unfortunately there are to many questions and no history to show the answers that allows us to vote him into the highest office in the world at this time.
It is a matter of trust, not religious belief, or color.
But as a side issue does anyone remember the Mormon debate – If I rememebr he was white, not black, so color has nothing to do with it. It is trying to judge if the persons belief is compatabile with everyone else so that they would represent us well.

Posted by: gat | June 1, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Faisal Smith:
Hillary was very popular(She is well known), But she is hated and despised.
Obama has won the “POPULAR” Vote and for GOOD reason!

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Obama quit his church not because his run brings “scrutiny” to his church but because it brings “scrutiny” to him and his character. He is not willing to have that “scrutiny” as people of this country will find out many more troubling issues hiding in his “Character Closet”. If he was scrutinized even half as much as other candidates here earlier on in this primary season he would have been long gone and the democratic party and the voters would have been that much better off. His campaign has divided the party and the country along racial lines and shown how to disrespect intelligent people and insult women. This is the real and lasting damage to our very fragile social fabric. Thanks Mr. Obama for pushing us back fifty years.
RB

Posted by: rb | June 1, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

I can not wait until Hilllary is PUSHED to the side lines!!!
The Hatred from her supporters is disgusting! The one thing I will give Hillary credit for, She knows how to cause a division, Just like Bush!
Now, when she is sitting on the sidelines, I wonder how she will unite the party she has Destroyed, what a shrew that woman is!

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

A vast majority of Hillary supporters are immature.
At the ruling yesterday a women shoved a man supporting Obama out of frustration.
Honestly…grow up.

Posted by: Vanessa | June 1, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

He can run, but he can’t hide. He is who he is–twenty years of it. To try to diassociate himself by breaking away now just so he can become President makes us all look so gullible. We will not vote for someone who is such a double-talker. What wisdom is he trying to prove to the electorate? He does not have any.

Posted by: georgia | June 1, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Vanessa,
The Hatred is caused by Hillary!! This is what shes brings out in her supporters, She is NOT a uniter and NOT good for our country!
Hillary should be telling her supporters to quit acting like cave women and start acting like Ladies!

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

She plays the “victim” card too often
She blames the media for her losses. The DNC leaders, independent groups etc
She must have forgotten. She was the media darling earlier on the primaries.
the weeks before the Texas, Ohio, Indiana, and North Carolina primaries… Rev.Wright was pasted on every major news network.
Foxnews a strong supporter of hers. Spreading lies and rumors.
Hillary Clinton is no victim.

Posted by: Vanessa | June 1, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

If media was doing their job, giving fair and balanced coverage, we will not be in today’s chaos. If the primary started today, I am confident that BHO will not be where he is right now.
The left-wing media (MSNBC, CNN) has endorsed BHO for a long time. there are so many gaffes, lies from BHO that those media simply ignores. BHO can always get away from from his misteps, and nothing stick to him. In contrast, they will attack HRC with full force whenever she made a minor mis-spoke.

Posted by: soberwatcher | June 1, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

I don’t think Hillary is entitled nomination, or whatsoever upfront. However, I did have the intelligence from their debates to tell that Hillary is better equipped to be a president that can bring US economy back to right track.
–Hillary is a good at debating, can think on her own foot. This quality is very important, especially in foreign affair, and negotiating with foreign countries. In contrast, BHO cannot think on his own foot if you watch closely during the debate, that’s way the host always ask Hillary the first question to cover BHO up.
–Hillary has a good master of issues that we face, and have solutions, BHO offers “change” that we don’t what kind of change he will bring, especially when he is backed by a handful old politician, which he labeled Hillary.
–As a fighter, Hillary has been attacked by Republic party, media, and Democrat party’s pressure of dropping out since Feb, she still stand strong, with a slight lead in popular vote.
–She could have clinch the nomination long time ago if Democrat party adopt Republic party’s rule. In contrast, with all the media’s favoritism, and party leader’s endorsement, BHO still cannot clinch the nomination till the end of primary. That does say something? doesn’t it?
–I could not understand why the party leaders (Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy, Richardson, etc) endorses BHO at very beginning. They are in politics long enough to know that BHO is not electable. Later on I thought maybe they are all jealous about Clinton’s capability. they know that if Hillary is the president, it would be another two term, then they don’t have chance to be president in their lifetime, unless they want to run a compaign at McCain’s age :)

Posted by: soberwatcher | June 1, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Unfortunately, Obama’s atatement on leaving the church shows that he still doesn’t get it. It shows his leaving the church is all about political expedience and has nothing to do with the hateful preachings of his “spiritual mentor” or the divisive black separatist rantings of the pastors and the orientation that has shaped him over the past 20 years!

Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 1, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Why did Obama win Idaho 79% to Hillarys 17%??
Idaho has less than 1% black population!
Americans HATE Hillary!

Posted by: Mark | June 1, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Mark!!
I agree, Im not sure why anyone would bring up that its the black supporters that have put Obama in the lead! May be they should do some “Facts Check” Before Posting!

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

LA In Indiana,
The numbers of white supporters for Obama, disagree with your statement. Most Obama supporters are white. These are the ones that can and have moved on past racism.
But, Yes racism is real and that is obvious from what the Hillary supporters are saying regarding Obama.

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

130 present votes. LOves his church for 20 years than resigns when it suits his ambition. This guy has no courage of conviction, he is a profile in cowardice.

Posted by: jim | June 1, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Am I the only one to look at the numbers that predict an Obama victory in November and relish the probability that he will be the next president, not just for historical significance, but to enjoy reading these lunatics after he wins. A guilty pleasure.

Posted by: bskahn | June 1, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

bskahn
****
No you are not the only one that can look at numbers with glee! :o)
Im thrilled to know that soon we will have a NEW President, No more of the old and same!!

Posted by: IslandGirl | June 1, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Jeanette:
Hillary could only sue if it wasnt true, Sorry!

Posted by: Mandy | June 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

^^Am I the only one to look at the numbers that predict an Obama victory in November and relish the probability that he will be the next president, not just for historical significance, but to enjoy reading these lunatics after he wins. A guilty pleasure.^^
So many of those wine collers have that effect on people.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | June 1, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Obama will be our next president, but he will never be as great as president George W Bush

Posted by: Fred | June 1, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I can see the GOP having a field day this OCT…no need for OCT surprise … it will be June, Jul, Aug, Sep and Oct surprise …
BHO flip, flop, flip, flop… selling whatever it takes to get the votes…
tick, tock, tick, tick…sorry BHO..you peaked in Feb 2008…and it was down-hill after that …too bad, Dean, Pelosi, DNC and a lot your supporters are still cling, cling, clinging on …
You have just exposed your own game….GAMEOVER !!!

Posted by: csquan | June 1, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

How long will it take democrats to win anything ever again?
Oh, that’s right….they don’t need black voters to win anything. The white racists will carry this country forward.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | June 1, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Yeah, right. Forgive me if I choose not to believe his explanation. After all, there have been so many of them!

Posted by: Mary | June 1, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

^^what the heck is a coller?
Maybe you mean a WHINE COOLER…^^
See?? You got the lesson in any case. THAT’s what’s important.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | June 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

After reading his statements given during his press conference, it becomes apparent to me that this guy still doesn’t GET it.
Disassociating himself from the Church (because whatever is said there will fall back on him) does not negate the fact that Father Pfleger is someone who he has referred to as “one of his top three spiritual advisers,” and that he worked to provide financial support to this man and his church.
It’s not WHERE the statements were made (although the fact that they were made at the Church where he was a member did make it that much worse), it’s the fact that the person who made them was such a close friend and spiritual adviser to him, and had worked on his campaign and had served on his staff.
How many MORE of those in his circle are prone to this type of bashing?
I guess we will soon find out when the Republicans get to work on him.

Posted by: SandyB | June 1, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Thank you, Bob Reed!
You know what “Bob” stands for: Best Of the Breed.

Posted by: Waffie | June 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

The problem for Obama with the trinity church/Rev Wright/Fr,Phlegan is that he is trying to base his campaign on “Change”. The horrible comments coming from the church are not about change-This is hate:
Against Whites
Against Jews
Against Catholics(yes the priest is Catholic-but Like no Catholic priest I have ever seen)
Against Hillary supporters largely white women.
This church and these two men were supporting his campaign and Obama himself referred to Wright as his “mentor” only 2 or 3 months ago.
I would not want a leader who has allowed himself to be so closely tied to a church that resembles the sermons of a klu klux klan meeting. Yes, if he was white and SO SUPPORTED his church (that he ADMITS mentored him)there would be a terrible uproar.

Posted by: Colleen | June 1, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

So as long as he is a canidate the church will be looked at what happens after he is presudent then he can go back he has a way of stating what he really does not mean the word canidate says it all for me . and he still has only good things to say about people who hate 68% of us.

Posted by: Bishop | June 1, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Note for Mr. Thompson,
Sir with all respect to you, I think you misinterpreted my comment. I am for the change in America. We need either a women or a minority president who can build bridges around the world. I think we can acheive more with dialogue then the big guns. I really feel the era of big guns is over. More and more people are educated and can understand the end result of big war. I really think we all should open our arms in embrace the world where we have difficulty and win the heart and minds of the citizens of the nations.
For your information, I have supported Barak and Hillary for the presidency. Sir, once again please read my comment and rethink what you are saying is not correct.
Thank you for addressing my comment with my first name.

Posted by: Dave | June 1, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Dave,
“We need either a women or a minority president who can build bridges around the world. I think we can acheive more with dialogue then the big guns. I really feel the era of big guns is over. More and more people are educated and can understand the end result of big war.”
Agreed. Education is the best forward-moving weapon against war and poverty.
Obama ’08!

Posted by: hope for change | June 1, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Obama quit the church because he had no choice. He didn’t want voters to find out his true self identity.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | June 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Obama quit the church because he had no choice. He didn’t want voters to find out his true self identity.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | Jun 1, 2008 7:19:17 PM
What has he done that proves he not someone trying to be inclusive of all people?

Posted by: LG | June 1, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

DON’T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn’t it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children’s suffering.
With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.
The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton’s do very well.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party’s back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.
You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don’t let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.
And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”

Posted by: jacksmith | June 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Apparently when Obama talks about uniting America and bringing people together, he really means making 80% of the population oblivious to the racism and vehement apatriotism fomenting under the surface of black communities. Either he’s so naive that he didn’t know, which is hard to believe, or he hoped no one would possibly question his relationships, which is ridiculous.
Thank god someone had the camera rolling is all I can say, folks just got another wake up call. I never was going to vote for Obama, now I’m on a mission.

Posted by: Draw'nDaLions | June 1, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Too Little, Too Late!
It took Obama 20 years and most of the primary season to quit his racist
church! It is impossible to
believe that Obama did not know that
these kinds of sermons were being given!
Add that to his ridiculous foreign policy statements and his budget
busting domestic agenda and despite it
supposedly being a “democrat year” it
looks like John McCain will be our next
president! That’s fine with me!

Posted by: reaganfan | June 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Faith you’ve got it all wrong!
This is not a religious test!
It is a test of Obama’s judgement and character! For him to have sat in that
church and heard these racist sermons
for 20 years and not left that church until now shows poor judgement and a
lack of character!

Posted by: reaganfan | June 1, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Debra, Debra…it’s ‘Why’d he’ not whitey.
More to the point, McCain says he’s both episcopalian and baptist. Both? And no one’s reported on this confusion, nor tried to clarify it. McCain’s religion, as an older white man, is less sexy than the unknown, exotic, mysteriously dangerous Obama can be made to appear.
So let’s do some deep reporting on McCain’s church, interview people, get pictures. Report. Not recite.
End that double standard, and know we have a separation of church and state in this country that younger evangelicals understand. It’s why they’re breaking for Obama over McCain.

Posted by: kravitz | June 1, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

kravitz:
I guess the Democrats don’t know we have
“separation of church and state”
since that always campaign in
black churches on Sunday Afternoons!
But that’s ok with you because they’re
Democrats, right!
I anyone has a double standard on religion it is the Dems!
I never heard that McCain said he was and episcopalian and a Baptist!
What’s your source of info?
Facts please!

Posted by: reaganfan | June 2, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

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