Obama Friend Wants Abortion Reduction Plank

As though it wasn’t arrogant enough that Obama lounges around in his multi million dollar massion while re-designing the presidentail seal…he now wants to tell americans how they should interpret the bible.

Obama told us to ‘consume’ less, told us to drive smaller cars and give up the SUVs, told us to set the thermostat higher, told us to ‘share our slice of pie’, to pay more taxes and now he adds abortion control. If this is not socialism/comunist platform then I don’t know what is. Enough already with all this governement imposed control.

Who does Jane Roe support?

seah your an idiot…To be pro choice and also be pro education / reduction is not a contradiction

ex-democrat….there is nothing about abortion control. it is about improving the factors that lead to it.

The lawmakers who voted to allow for partial birth abortions should experience the procedure.

marie – it’s about the fact that I am tired of beeing told what I should and should not do. I am a free person I am free to make my decisions I am free to drive whatever car I want, I am free to eat whatever I want. I don’t want to be controlled like I am a stupid child – I don’t want to be told I can not smoke, I can not eat saturated fats, I can not drive my Hummer I can not have an abortion if I choose to have one. This is about the freedom principle – this is aboit the principles America was founded on. Obama does not respect them.

ex-democrat- What about the babies rights to life and liberty. Are you for legalizing partial birth abortions? If so, it should be open season on everybody.

Far too many girls/women used abortion as simple birth control instead of just saying NO. I am for pro-choice when the pg is the result of rape, incest, etc but not because two people chose to HAVE FUN on Saturday night. Abortion should not be impossible to get but much harder to get. Just saying NO is a lot less painful and expensive.

Wow, 1.5 million babies a year. These abortion docs must be soleless sociopaths. How much do they get paid for ripping a baby apart anyway?

abortion is legal in the UK and they are having HUGE problems with the rates of abortions, especially amongst teens. You know what, if you can keep it illegal for a few more years and teach kids to be safe, then i think its a much better option.
I am disgusted that Obama voted for partial birth abortion….

If someone told Obama it would get him all the votes he needed to get elected, He would change his stand on Aborition.
Looking back at all the times Obama flip-flopped on issues. What is one more. LOL
Obama’s interest is getting elected. What he says to do that does not matter to him, one way or another.
His track record shows that much about him.

@Sharon – are you sure you aren’t talking about McCain? Immigration, torture, oil drilling? The flip-flopper label just isn’t working for you guys. Ask Gordon Smith (R-OR). He is one of the few Republicans with a clue about how to win right now.

Republican supporting Obama 08 – You are correct McCain is a flipflopper. I am also a lifelong republican who will not be voting for McCain because of his belligerence towards other nations among other things. I will vote 3rd party probably Paul, Nader, McKinney or that constitutional party guy. Obama is too much for welfare entitlements.

Chloe…this whole article is ridiculous. Cindy M is an alcoholic, thief and abused wife. Instead of working in Vietnam and other third world countries she should be using her money to help American children. Some of these kids are in shelters because their parents cannot afford housing. Some are sick and don’t have health insurance. And many are abused and neglected. Put your money where your mouth is Cindy and help America first.

i dont understand the people who are against abortion but you support war and blowing up babies and children that are already living and breathing not to mention pregnant woman please people explain how that is any better now i dont like abortion but i belive its necessary in some circumstances

Obama is trying to be even with women voters who voted to Hillary and now switching to McCain. Wow! he is so revengeful – And he preaches Bible!

angie, HP Boston – Abortion should also be up to the baby as well. Keep it in your pants, and keep the legs shut. Stop the killing, whether it be in wars or the womb.

hey aboration sucks hp boston what if the woman was raped or it was incest or life threating you know the comments you made are disgusting dont you have a little class???

OBAMA is just campaign rhetoric that is so old. Obama tells his audience that John McCain “opposed legislation to fund levees and flood control programs, which he considers pork”. How far can someone go to CHANGE THE TRUTH without so much a comment from the press? Talk about people in Obama’s pockets and in America of all places where the “press” was truthful and informative but are now letting the people down. The bill was to cost the tax payers some $23 billion dollars and was nothing more than a waste of taxpayer’s money because it was full of earmarks and very little for flood control. You know that wasteful spending that Obama himself wants says he is trying to get rid of. What Obama did not tell you is that John McCain and other senators tried to fix the water bill, and get rid of the “pork” and make it a bill that would not waste the taxpayer’s money and get the job done. What Obama did not tell you is that Obama voted against taking the “pork” out of the bill—he voted “nay”. Obama stands for politics-as-usual, more lies and corruption. It is John McCain who stands for change. The amendment steered the money and efforts toward stronger levees and not putting money into politician’s earmarks….like the huge earmark of 17 million that Obama’s church received.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299200516372689

Obama is a liar and is the BIGGEST flip-flop of the year. Even his associations are questioning him in which he answers “no comment”. This guy is a fraud and America is waking up to realize it ! Obama reminds me of his mentor, Jimmy Carter……same style, same liar, same empty suit with no substance! Way to go America! Keep it up! America does not want this liar and fake!

Let me list a few measures that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. backs.
He sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
In 1999 he was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex offenders.
He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.
Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches.
Just as unsettling is his voting record on abortion.
Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.
In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fundraising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the Country, and that the ‘so-called’ partial-birth abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.

Far too many girls/women used abortion as simple birth control instead of just saying NO. I am for pro-choice when the pg is the result of rape, incest, etc but not because two people chose to HAVE FUN on Saturday night. Abortion should not be impossible to get but much harder to get. Just saying NO is a lot less painful and expensive.
Just saying no is not the end all and be all of birth control it is barely the first step.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 25, 2008 12:05:36 PM
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Well ya Mary in a perfect world all children born will be loved and wanted..
Just b/c you get pregnant does not make a woman the ward of the state to be told what she MUST do.
Do we want the religious Taliban in America telling us our choices?

wow a lot of lame posts its funny that the only thing the repubs can attempt to do to obama is label him a flip flop or an elitist
LOL
too bad mccain is a fish out of water
and his wife has how much money?
who just payed off their student loans?
lol yea obama that elitist, he payed his way through harvard and graduated and worked hard… and didnt inherit any money, and had the gall to write two books that is what made him the money he currently has….
LOL what an elitist
meanwhile mccain flys over head in his wifes private jet

angie, HP Boston – Abortion should also be up to the baby as well. Keep it in your pants, and keep the legs shut. Stop the killing, whether it be in wars or the womb.
Posted by: arbortionsucks | Jun 25, 2008 1:48:57 PM
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You are truly a person who should take every unwanted child under your wing and save them for your brainwashing. Go ask those tiny cells what they want, put on you Luna tin hat and check bellies…lol!

OK, so much of the time the bloggers are trying to get Hillary’s supporters by saying Roe vs Wade will be overturned and women’s reproductive rights will be set back eons. What gives here? A subtle erosion, something that is really nothing in the proposer’s eyes, but which is the first step down that slippery slope by the party that long has supported individual liberty. Why? To make inroads with Catholics. A Pew poll before the pope visted showed the same amount of support for abortion among Catholics as among the general public, 51% support and 44% oppose. Let’s see where this is going.

McCain camp and his suporters making such a big deal over Obama opting out of campaign financing as someone noted here. McCain has done worse – he breaks the law every day with his flip-flop on campaign financing: What’s actually disturbing is the Swift Boat Media’s complete indifference to McCain’s bald-faced hypocrisy on the same issue. Amidst all the attacks on Obama’s “flip-flop,” how much have you read in the MSM about the fact that McCain has “completely reversed himself” on public financing — and is currently breaking the law on a daily basis, making a mockery out of a campaign finance system he helped create?
In the fall of 2007, McCain opted into the public financing system for the GOP primaries, which meant he’d later receive just over $5 million in public funds in exchange for agreeing to a fundraising limit of around $54 million for the entire primary process, which ends when he accepts the nomination at the Republican National Convention in September.
By late November, his campaign was practically broke, so McCain took out a pair of $1 million loans, using the public funds he would receive as collateral.
Cut to Super Tuesday, when McCain had the Republican nomination all but wrapped up. Suddenly, he didn’t want to be bound by that $54 million limit, so his campaign did a 180 and opted back out of the public financing system.
But as David Mason, the Republican-appointed chair of the FEC, has pointed out, you can’t just unilaterally opt out — especially after securing a loan based on having opted in. The response of the McCain campaign is quite simply to ignore Mason. And because the FEC currently lacks a quorum (thanks to stalling tactics by that human roadblock to reform, Mitch McConnell) that’s where things stand, pending a ruling on a lawsuit filed by the DNC.
And then there is this – This is the man we should trust to run our country – a lawbreaker? Amidst all the attacks on Obama’s “flip-flop,” how about the fact that McCain has “completely reversed himself” on public financing — and is currently breaking the law on a daily basis, making a mockery out of a campaign finance system he helped create?

John McCain’s life experience has earned him a solid national reputation as someone who can serve as the nation’s commander in chief, with 80% saying he can handle the responsibilities of this important role.

I guess I can shell out some of my tax dollars to buy condoms for those that lack self-control to avoid more abortions. What an immoral mess
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Well now you are talking a good solution!’ BIRTH CONTROL! Great concept, let us go forth and EDUCATE, start in third grade and make it a required subject!
Let us teach sex is not Immoral, Sex is a responsibly BECAUSE it can CAUSE an abortion!

@ Sandy:
At least be truthful. From surveyUSA:
The Presidential race in Indiana is tied, according to this latest SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for WHAS-TV Louisville and WCPO-TV Cincinnati.
Today, Barack Obama takes 48% of the vote; John McCain takes 47%.
Obama’s 1-point lead is within the survey’s 4 percentage point margin of sampling error, and these results should be reported as a tie.
http://www.270towin.com/2008_polls/mccain_obama/

@ Sandy:
You sure are quiet! Not nice to post facts without support. Again, just like Obama and his obamabots….you spew lies for facts, “empty suits with no substance”!

Jack – sorry – the mistruths come from your side – those are today’s figures.electoral-vote.com gives Obama 328 electoral votes, McCain 183. Those numbers have been very steady for Obama. Additionally, buoyed by enthusiasm among Democrats and public concern over the economy, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has captured a sizable lead over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at the opening of the general election campaign for president, the Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll has found.
In a two-man race between the major party candidates, registered voters chose Obama over McCain by 49% to 37% in the national poll conducted last weekend.
On a four-man ballot including independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Bob Barr, voters chose Obama over McCain by an even larger margin, 48% to 33%.
Obama’s advantage, bigger in this poll than in most other national surveys, appears to stem in large part from his positions on domestic issues. Both Democrats and independent voters say Obama would do a better job than McCain at handling the nation’s economic problems, the public’s top concern.
In contrast, many voters give McCain credit as the more experienced candidate and the one best equipped to protect the nation against terrorism — but they rank those concerns below their worries about the economy.
Moreover, McCain suffers from a pronounced “enthusiasm gap,” especially among the conservatives who usually give Republican candidates a reliable base of support. Among voters who describe themselves as conservative, only 58% say they will vote for McCain; 15% say they will vote for Obama, 14% say they will vote for someone else, and 13% say they are undecided.
By contrast, 79% of voters who describe themselves as liberal say they plan to vote for Obama.
Even among voters who say they do plan to vote for McCain, more than half say they are “not enthusiastic” about their chosen candidate; only 45% say they are enthusiastic. By contrast, 81% of Obama voters say they are enthusiastic, and almost half call themselves “very enthusiastic,” a level of zeal that only 13% of McCain’s supporters display.
(LA Times, Washington Post).

Ryan – “We send them in order to protect this great country we live in.” Since when? Bush sent our soldiers to war with lies – no WMD, no nothing! – just glorify his legacy. Terrorism is your great ploy – it will no longer work – Americans have become too smart to fall for that crap, again!

Sandy, you don’t think there is terrorism in the world? Really. Every major intelligence agency said there were WMDs, it wasn’t Bush that created the information. How come there hasn’t been an attack since 9/11? However, the troops are sent out to make this country safe? Funny, you didn’t rebuke that obama is a monster for being okay with watching a baby die on a table. Remember, liberalism kills more than anything in this world.

Everyday the platform for the Obama campaign has a change, in the beginning it was don’t vote for McCain because he will overturn Roe v. Wade; now this Rev is asking for Obama to work to decrease the # of abortions, what exactly is this campaign all about exception utter confusion. Is this nation becoming China where you are allowed to have a certain # of children, will we lose our freedoms with this democratic president, sounds a bit scary. This will be a harsh change for a Senator who approves of partial birth abortions. Everyone wants a piece of the action and seems to be getting it except the voters. What next?

I hate the term “pro-abortion”…just because someone believes in the right to choose does not mean that they think abortion is a terrible thing, it is. BUT banning it outright only benefits the rich and connected who can get a safe abortion anyway. I am a democrate who does believe in abortion restrictions i.e. 1st trimester only unless mothers physical life at stake, no partial birth abortion. Anyway, I still have a problem voting for Obama..the two choices we have really SUCK. I am so pissed at the DNC and the media who, in my mind, are resonsible for the empty suit presumptive nominee.

Wow, this is bound to make the liberals very unhappy.

While I would agree with one of our surgeons general who said abortion should be, “Safe, legal and rare”, it’s really sad to see cases where abortion is used as a form of birth control, an unfortunate reality among careless, stupid women. With so many birth control methods available today, not to use any but abortion really says something about the people doing it. I don’t know how they live with themselves.

I like Obama more and more each day. He is the only one running who can see both sides and come up with a compromise. John McCain sees only his own point of view, and frankly just can’t be trusted. McCain changes with the winds depending upon which way the polls are floating that day.

If I didnt realize that all presidents approve of abortions, I would have dropped Obama just because of his pro abortion stand.
But politics are what they are, and NO president will approve of banning abortions.

Wow…I came on this site looking for intelligent discourse and I find hate spewing illiterates.
Anybody but Obama – Clearly, the height of hypocrisy is calling Obama “arrogant”. Look at McCain. He flips an issue as soon as it polls well (off-shore drilling), states he is going to run a positive campaign (yet his web ads have been anything but), outright lies about the plans his opponent is running (taxes, energy), all the while engaging in perhaps an illegally financed campaign (and states Obama broke his word).
This is to be expected from the same guy who brought us classics as “The Keating Five”, and “100 Years in Iraq”. But honestly, if you think Obama is “arrogant” in lounging around one house while McCain owns 8 (maybe more) than you are absolutely delusional. McCain, who dumped his wife to marry a younger woman for her wealth is nowhere near “arrogant”.
As far as this abortion limiting strategy goes. It’s appealing, and it makes Obama more of a centrist. It would be a good way to peel off some of those “pro life” voters.

No, I would not want my daughter to have an abortion. Nor would I want my father to have open heart surgery. Banning abortions makes as much sense as banning open heart surgery. In both cases, prevention is key.
Prevention in my daughter’s case means educating her about her body, her developing sexual desires, the medical and emotional dangers, and making it easy for her to talk to me. It means teacher her self respect from an early age. And if needed, it means providing her with birth control. Some self defense lessons wouldn’t hurt either.

@Andrea,
It is you who needs to develop “some critical thinking” and not have a Pavlovian reaction based on keywords.
If you noticed Rev.Wallis wants Obama to adopt a “abortion reduction” platform.Not an “abortion elimnation” platform. Unfortunately this will never sit well with the Democratic party because, you know a woman has the Constitutional right to choose. Its not only in cases of rape, incest etc, but a woman has a blanket right to choose no matter what.
We all know that this right has been blatantly abused.Forget women who have an abortion – the number of people who have two or more abortions is pretty high. Obviously it has now become a form of birth control.
I do agree that men need to take an active role in preventing abortions. But i would be STUNNED if the Democrat party unites behind a platform of ” REDUCE ABORTIONS”.
As far as I understand, this is what Liberals have to say about abortion reductions
“why should we reduce abortions ? Its after all a constitutional right, according to Roe v Wade ruling. Why should we exercise restraint in exercising the constitutional right to choose.”
In fact this policy of abortion reductions is EXACTLY what the GOP needs to adopt – instead of being rigid about Roe V Wade, if the GOP adopted a platform that said ” We dont like abortions but given that it is the law of the land and that almost 40 years have passed since the Roe v Wade ruling, our immediate goals should be reduce abortions – may be one day we can imagine Roe v Wade being redundant if not illegal”
But that would take some guts to do – and no one has it in the GOP today.
As far as the Democrats go, if they even go near a platform of abortion reduction, it will cause such a furor among women’s groups and people like HP Boston that they may even quit the party.
The solution to this problem lies with the people of this country and not politicians.
Unfortunately the good Reverend Wallis does not seem to understand that.

Now, Back to the actual article, What is wrong with a 4 stage program that teaches First, Abstinence, Second, Birth Control, Third, Adoption, and Fourth, Abortion. If we teach this type of program It teachs Kids that the Only sure prevention is Abstinence BUT if you “choose” to have sex then birth control is the the nest step and IF that fails then there are programs in place to assist with pregnancy and adoption, Then and ONLY then teach that IF a young mother for her OWN reasons prefers to abort she then has that INFORMED option.

Come on, if there were a law that let’s anyone murder so many people before it is a crime…well you do the math! If it was legal to murder, than how many people who hates someone for the moment, would use that right to kill them? Get real! Does it matter how many you murder? Or that you do at all? All those babies would grow up someday, how you going to know which one might save YOUR life? If a woman is raped, put the rapest to death, not the innocent child! These women that have the right to choose! Well, they are already born now aren’t they! How easily they take another’s life, a precious life at that! Hah! If the children had a voice what do you think they would say? What if someone chooses to chop you in half? What pain it is to those children that are suppose to be protected in the mother’s womb! A Leader of this America is suppose to speak for the speachless and protect them as a future American citizen! It is against our Constitution to do otherwise! Why, even illegal immigrants have life, liberty (freedom) and the pursuit of happeness! As far as Womens lib and planned parenthood, I don’t want my tax money going to them!! They were started by a nazi athiest who wanted to get rid of the Black babies, and the Jews! They believed they were apes, like evolution teaches! Oh yes, look up the history! They still are killing babies in the name of selfish mothers that live for the moment! They should be held accountable, it might catch on, don’t you think? As far as welfare….you don’t want to work, you don’t eat! That would fix 99% that abuse that! Why do you think the immigrants come here? And why there is so much poverty? They would rather live scantily than work! That creates more crime! Think about it! This government is screwed up and wants to control you, so that you will depend on them, whether they are right or not! That’s how they get votes! By the way, if Obama were a Christian as he claims, he would label this abortion issue as an abomination and work to stop it altogether! He would not compromise!