Obama Hates the Cheney Energy Task Force! (But Not the So-Called “Cheney Energy Bill”)
EmailLast night in Detroit, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, assailed the process by which the 2005 Senate energy bill — helmed by Vice President Cheney — was created.
“When Bush assigned Cheney to create energy policy, he met with the environmental groups once, the renewable energy groups once, he met with the oil and gas companies 40 times," Obama said. "Washington has become so dominated by the powerful, by the well-connected, that the voices of the American people are no longer heard.”
What Obama failed to mention: he voted for the 2005 Senate energy bill. According to the liberal group Public Citizen, the Cheney Energy Task Force’s "report provided the foundation of the energy bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on August 8" 2005.
(Obama explained his vote at the time saying, "this bill, while far from a solution, is a first step toward decreasing America’s dependence on foreign oil." among other reasons, the bill required "that 7.5 billion gallons of ethanol be mixed with gasoline by 2012.")
- jpt
UPDATE: Obama campaign communications director Robert Gibbs pushes back on the idea that the 2005 energy bill that overwhelmingly passed the US Senate bore much resemblance to Vice President Cheney’s 2001 Energy Task Force. He sends along this AP story from March saying that "It is a stretch to call it ‘Dick Cheney’s energy bill,’ a hot-button reference for many Democrats. Although the House bill was framed according to the vice president’s energy priorities, by the time it passed the Senate many of those measures, such as drilling in an Arctic wildlife refuge, had been stripped away.”
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What exactly have environmental groups done besides say no to everything? What technologies have they brought to the table?
Posted by: drjohn | June 17, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
One of the reasons I voted for Clinton was because she was less energy industry friendly than Obama. That’s also the reason she had the Bobby Kennedy, jr, an ardent environmentalist, endorsement. Oh well, I guess I’m being redundant.
Posted by: kat | June 17, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Nearly a quarter of Clinton supporters are holding back from supporting Obama.
“If this continues it will be hard for Obama to win” according to ABC news.
I am very proud to be one of 25% holding back. I’ll never vote for Obama.
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 17, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
pathetic
so he said he voted for the bill because it was the first step
so when he says it continues to need to be changed because it did nothing but start in a direction
you guys cry
pathetic
mccain talks in 3d geevil this guy cant say anything without contradicting himself because right now HES A CONTRADICTION TO HIMSELF
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Nearly a quarter of Clinton supporters are holding back from supporting Obama.
“If this continues it will be hard for Obama to win” according to a report from ABC news.
They said we would fall in line and come to our senses–and we have.
I’m voting for strength, maturity, experience, a proven record–McCain
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
More of Obama’s GOOD JUDGMENT—-now he has thrown Florida and Ohio “under the bus” –he doesn’t need these states to win the Election. Who is next?
Big Worry Some Day Obama will Throw The US “under the bus”.
Posted by: Anne | June 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
It is irrelivant what Obama says. Its only important in how the CORRUPT MEDIA HYPES AND SHAPES whatever he says.
You idiots are bound and determined to HYPE the guy into the white house.
Then the dems can forever say they were the first one to elect a minority president.
Posted by: snell | June 17, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
BTW, Jake, thank you so much for this blog and for your efforts.
It’s a refreshing change for the media. I think you’ve done a commendable job in questioning everyone.
Posted by: drjohn | June 17, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Obama is totally fraud. I hope Hillary will come back.
Posted by: Kerry | June 17, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
McCain voted against the Cheney Energy Bill and Obama voted for it. Seems like Obama demonstrates moderation and being able to work across the isle. Plus being from Illinois and a large corn/ethanol producer he had to support the legislation that would help his state. Duh.
Posted by: SO WHO IS THE LIBERAL | June 17, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
cindi in nc – Methinks you’ve been a McCain supporter all along and you’re trying to exploit a perceived vulnerability.
Posted by: kat | June 17, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
OBAMA IS SO EMPTY, HE MENTIONS HIS COUSIN CHENEY IN ABOUT EVER SPEAK- OF COURSE HE IS ASHAME TO BE KIN TO HIM- SO WHY GO OVER IT AGAIN & AGAIN. I AM WITH MCCAIN. I THINK WE SHOULD BE DRILLING OFF OUR OWN COAST ESPECIALLY SINCE CHINA AND CUBA ARE ALREADY DRILLING OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA.
Posted by: linda | June 17, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Obama is a politician just like Rev. Wright said . He will say and do what he thinks people want to hear, if it’s going to get him votes he’s for it, if it’s controversal he’ll stay neutral. All good politicians do this.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | June 17, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Ethanol is a fraud that raised food prices. Look at the stock XNL.
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
What exactly have environmental groups done besides say no to everything? What technologies have they brought to the table?
Posted by: drjohn | Jun 17, 2008 11:41:03 AM
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And what exactly has ANY politician done in over 35 years of oil dependency?? NOTHING. We will be in long gas lines at the stations(the ones open that is) for hours on end…wasting gas! It will be the 70′s only worse! I did not understand then as I was not old enough to drive but I remember my friends and I trying to gas up and go to the beach. WE have had our day at the beach!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 17, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Nearly a quarter of Clinton supporters are holding back from supporting Obama.
“If this continues it will be hard for Obama to win” according to ABC news.
I am very proud to be one of 25% holding back. I’ll never vote for Obama.
Posted by: cindy in nc | Jun 17, 2008 11:58:30 AM
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Oh me too Cindy, I think a lot more than 25%!
We are in no hurry to tell the polls or anyone else we will never vote Obama. I give no info to anyone who brings up Obama…Mums the word. Keep em guessing, they will be in SHOCK AND AWE!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 17, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Proud to be one of the 25%-ers! Obama is a fraud and likely one of the most corrupt politicians of my lifetime. No wonder he focuses on “hope and change” instead of his State and U.S. Senate records.
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 17, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Tiger wrapped it up yesterday.
Boston will wrap it up tonight.
Obama will wrap it up in November.
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
hp BOSTON/cINDYnc…and all th rest of your HRC supporters are too stupid to realize what you are doing. Do you know that McCain stands for EVERYTHING that Hillary hates???? He has always voted against womens right on all issues. He will follow the Bush admin on all fronts including the war…WAKE UP…What other reasons would you NOT vote for him…stop being like a 5 year old and GROW UP…this is not about you, Hillary or Obama…it is about our country for God sake…
Posted by: militarymom | June 17, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
geevil…have you looked at the Clintons in 80′s? They got in based on the black vote. They courted also.
Posted by: truthtell | June 17, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Robert Kennedy sr. was big into the enviroment If you could go back to the sixty’s most of are lakes and water ways were dangerous with factory discharges america was a pretty dirty country it took Lady Byrd Johnson’s keep america beautiful to start a clean up america act we have come so far but some evironmental groups have taken it to far.IMO it is another wedge issue like many others it is always brought out at election time.
Posted by: Bishop | June 17, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Kerry///for God sake…give in!!! Hillary is finished and you know what…if Obama looses she will be blamed BIG TIME for her lack of support….
Posted by: mainegirl | June 17, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Nobama…you hrc are a mess….YOU LOST….!!!
Posted by: newera | June 17, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Both Senators Hillary Clinton and John McCain had the sense to vote AGAINST this sorry bill, the best energy bill money could buy–for oil companies, that is.
Barack Obama also failed to mention that he accepted more money from oil company executives and other individuals than either of the other candidates. What a big phony he is!
Posted by: Carol in Atl | June 17, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
geevil…have you looked at the Clintons in 80′s? They got in based on the black vote. They courted also.
I do know in the 90′s Bill Clinton won by getting white Southern states like, WV, KY, AR. Obama won’t get them.
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
mainegirl…That is why I prefer Obama not to choose Hillary for VP. If he loses Hillary would be blamed for HIS loss. Hillary shouldn’t take anymore abuse from this MSM, DNC and Obama. She has endured more than she ever should have.
She should run Independent or with McCain. She would win.
Posted by: carolyn | June 17, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
maingirl,
WHY IN THE WORLD DO YOU WANT SEN. CLINTON TO SUPPORT OBAMA?
YOU JUST CALLED HER A LOSER!
AND SAID IF HE LOSES IT WILL BE BECAUSE OF HER LACK OF SUPPORT.
HOW CAN A LOSER SUPPORT HIM?
MAINGIRL PLEASE TELL US WHY YOU SAY SUCH.
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Obama LIED to Iowa primary voters (and the rest of us) about nuclear energy, including his boast about “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed,” (the Nuclear Release Notice Act of 2006, which Obama rewrote to Exelon’s specifications, and which did NOT pass).
Excerpt: “Asked why Mr. Obama had cited it as an accomplishment while campaigning for president, the campaign … did not directly address the question of why Mr. Obama had told Iowa voters that the legislation had passed.
“the legislation has come in handy on the campaign trail. Last May, in response to questions about his ties to Exelon, Mr. Obama wrote a letter to a Nevada newspaper citing the bill as evidence that he stands up to powerful interests.”
See “Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate” (Mike McIntire, New York Times, February 3, 2008)
Posted by: Mama Knows Better | June 17, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Carolyn,
I read your post and the link,
i think it will slowly sink in to the people who are really concerned about the direction of this country, that we now have two very poor candidates running for president.
Everyday, i am reading more and more, and seeing in journalism and tv news, we have people such as keith olberman, and chris matthews, and hannity, the leaders of the political parties, weak mccain and weak obama,
where are the walter cronkites of journalism? and where are the great statesmen of our political system?
we are in a mess in this country.
and i guess it serves us right, because you should not have expected to be the “superpower” forever.
i just didn’t foresee us going down like this.
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
maggie
GOP right????
be honest
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Omentum: Yes, I am voting for McCain.
What they did to Hillary is unspeakable!!!
Posted by: maggie | June 17, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
maggie
remember the old commander in chief test.
how pathetic was that.
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
jgsaw….Where are the TRUE Americans who stand up for peoples rights? Who are supportive of someone trying to change our system of the better? Where are the people williong to sacrifice their feelings in order to achieve what is right for the country, not themselve?
Where are those GREAT Americans? I don’t see them on this BLOG
Posted by: newvoter | June 17, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
hellow maggie
are you still there
can you answer to that
did you run away????
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
“that 7.5 billion gallons of ethanol be mixed with gasoline by 2012.”)”
This is the worse possible things that we could do. This makes fuel compete with food and higher prices for both is the result.
Worse yet, this will strain the water supply.
Posted by: drjohn | June 17, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Omentum: Please stop labeling McCain as another Bush. You know as well as everyone else, that alot of staunce Republicans don’t even favor McCain as their candidate choice.
I believe that if I can look at McCain as leaning more to the left than the right; as I have see Hillary as being more center (as a Regan Democrate); then I choose McCain as my choice.
Besides Omentum (thank God were having a civiliged conversation here without calling each other names, as some other bloggers do); I would reckon alot of other Hillary Supporters probably feel the same.
Obama, in my opinion, is too liberal for me. Hillary herself, voted for the BAIPA bill, Obama voted against it. His stance on abortion is too extreme for me.
Posted by: maggie | June 17, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
my issue is with you saying “if he loses it will be because she did not campaign for him”
why do you put so much stock in hillary clinton being able to help obama win?
yes, she is the loser, all the more reason to keep her away.
he and his way won out over her.
with all of the people helping him, why would sen. clinton not campaigning for him-and his losing be her fault?
so if he loses with her-it will be her fault
and if he loses without her -it will be her fault.
obama claimed a new kind of politics
but he allowed his surrogates,and every
everyone else run her down.-that would be old school politics.
you cannot tell call someone all kinds of names, tell them to get lost, your way is not the way anymore, and you are not wanted, or needed, it is a new day.
(as the clinton’ were treated)
and then when they are off the scene-because you won-you turn around and tell them oh, by the way-comeback and help me or i’ll call you a sore loser.
how is that right mainegirl?
sen. clinton’ good works legacy is SET
and if she retired from public office today, and didn’t campaign for ANYONE, expecially obama, the GOOD she has done for this country has already been written in the history books.
and no one will write her good works legacy and put a footnote in there,oh, by the way she didn’t campaign for obama,so forget the good work.
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
“by the time it passed the Senate many of those measures, such as drilling in an Arctic wildlife refuge, had been stripped away.”
Jake, I would not disagree with argument that this is no longer Cheney’s bill. This bill had everything useful stripped from it, and left only those measures which would only cause higher energy prices.
That oil drilling would kill off ANWR is one of the biggest lies of all times. 2000 acres needed out of 20 million. And nothing lives there.
It’s so dishonest it boggles the mind.
Posted by: drjohn | June 17, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
So if the bill was watered down then this rhetoric is notihng but bs.
“Washington has become so dominated by the powerful, by the well-connected, that the voices of the American people are no longer heard”
Obama’s excuse for voting for the bill is that the voices of the American people were heard. Which is it?
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
“What Obama failed to mention: he voted for the 2005 Senate energy bill — the one born from Cheney’s Energy Task Force.”
He’s not too talky about his associations with Exelon, either — or about Axelrod and Ayers’ associations with Exelon.
Posted by: Mama Knows Better | June 17, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
maggie
I never even mentioned Bush.
You logic baffles me. Obama and clintons policies are virtually the same and McCain policies are starkly different that anything a democrat would dream of.
This guy has demonstrated the most disregard for women in general and more specifically women political issues and you want to vote for him.
How does the koolaid taste?
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Omentum, wrote, “Obama will wrap it up in November”
…OBAMA WILL BE WRAPPED UP IN NOVEMBER AS AN EARLY CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR MCCAIN….
Posted by: neil1785 | June 17, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Omentum -
It’s laughable to say HRC and BHO policies are the same. BHO knew little if he was not given a prepared speech. He could only say “yes, I agree with Senator XYZ”, “Me, too” in the dems debates.
If you can name a single original idea, or legislative, or policy idea or accomplishments, you might be qualified to say what you say in defending a phony who got nominated by Affirmative Action.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | June 17, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
maggie
what they did to clinton was terrible
i mean she herself announced this was all but in the bag for her, and then she lost, and fought back, and then lost big, and then fought back by going republican negative, and lost some more, and then fought back and raised issues attacking obamas character, and when she was finally pulling it all together taht obama was some evil person and that he was unelectable, she lost
im sick of what happened too, i mean..
she SAID SHE WAS GOING TO WIN and lost
she had all the money all the best wwashington people, and ended up broke, and losing, and using terrible campaign strategy
WHYYYYY
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
well friends,
I just heard on MSNBC,
obama did not know how to run for president. he was a detached leader,
and let others make the decisions, he didn’t get on campaign conf. calls until after he lost pa.
and get this they just admitted.
of course he does not have as much experience as sen. clinton.
the moderator said-well we saw sen. clinton start to run her campaign at the end-like a ceo, as she said this is sort of the way the presidency should be run right now. with the president having a lot of hands on.
the guy from the nyt’ said-no sen. obama is learning-but i don’t see him being much of the ceo type. he will rely on help and then make the decisions.
this was just on msnbc.
friends, does this sound kinda scary to you.
our current president was so inept he had to rely on “the knowledge and kindness of others” rather than rely on his own smarts.
obama won
usa loses
mccain won
usa loses.
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Rep attack machine will wait for Obama to be officially nominated by Dems and then release all the fires and bombs.. By then, Dems will have no time to reverse their nomination and have no time for damage control…
The bittest fight has not come yet…
Posted by: True Truth | June 17, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Omentum: I am voting for McCain for the same reason, thousands and thousands of other Hillary Supporters are switching their votes to McCain; because eventhough Obama and Hillary may seem the same on their issues; Obama cannot be trusted. And he is untested and not ready to lead this nation.
We are not voting for the homecoming King at a High School Prom; we are voting for a President of the United States. The most important job in our country.
Posted by: maggie | June 17, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
What Obama really meant was……
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
jgaw writes:
“I just heard on MSNBC . . . ”
jgaw, you just gotta tie yourself to the mast and not LISTEN to these in-the-bag boys — the transformation of Mr. Olbermann, in particular, into a mere water-carrier for The One has been frightening to behold, leading one to wonder whether he’s being subjected to mind-control drugs, or something.
The campaign “news” there amounts to collaboration in a coup attempt.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 17, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Smart is not equal to Wise….
Wisdom comes from solid experience, well self-strength and right judgments…
Americans need a president full of wisdoms not a genuis…
Posted by: True Truth | June 17, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
olberman
please name any proposal that is original from teh mccain camp and that isnt a full embrace of the bush policies…
also explain why he has embraced bushes campaign tactics and talking points
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
since it has now been admitted in the msm the wrong one won.
can we talk about, (when you think about it) how unpatriotic the msm is and the dem. party for pushing and putting forth the most inexperienced person to run for president?
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
hahaha
you guys and gals are too funny. Hey if McCain was such a shoe in. You would be touting him…. since you have nothing good to say about the neanderthal you constantly try to pull obama down.
i have no doubt obama will win this fall.. I sense you feel the same. so why not trash him now to get a head start for the next four years…. good luck in your four years of hate blogging
hahahah
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
truth truth
i hope you are talking about obama as he is extremely intelligent…
mccain on the other hand graduated 795th out of an 800 class
he was always getting into trouble by his navy officers but was forgiven because of who his father and his father was.
this sounds pretty much like bush… a total failure in teh military, a total failure as president
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
bhrandon, you left out his “street organizing” experience, and the 20 years that he spent studying Black Liberation Theology under his mentor. That does account for something, doesn’t it?
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Just admit that he is woefully unqualified and inexperienced. You’re better off sticking to his message of hope and change. Whatever that means.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
belle starr,
it is because it was MSNBC, that i was so suprised at what they were saying.
i know msnbc are deep in the can for obama.
and we will probally find out in someone’ book later on how pushing obama for president was more out of the corp greed for more money than the patrotic need for this country to have a good president.
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
bhrandon -
Why do I need to defend McCain? I may or may not vote for him, although certainly will not vote for a phony.
At least McCain is a hero, compared to a phony being educated and holy washed for 20 years by a hatemonger who condemns America.
If we have to choose two idealess phonies, which actually is not true because there is only one phony and you know who that is, a hero is a better choice than a hypocrite who constantly makes “boneheaded” mistakes, who defended his Reverend’s “God-Damn-America” by blaming the history of the country, and only to over turn it by himself two weeks later, to completely dissociate his mentor for 20 years.
Maybe he is capable of fooling some, or you, but hopefully, not the majority in November.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | June 17, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
He himself used the term “street organizer”.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
oblermn3
No …. he just your next president.
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Even if he doesn’t believe the lies that Wright was spouting, there were a lot of people that were backslapping and nodding their heads in agreement. He had an obligation/duty to stand up and stop the misinformation, but he didn’t do anything, just sat there being “present”.
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
olberman you cant answer a single question of mine and all you can do is bring up trinity church
i am sick of bush policies and bushes america
mccain will not run my america into the ground any further then bush has
we are tired of the bs coming from teh republicans
and bob dole, i mean mccain will be shown the losers corner again in november my friends
Posted by: bhrandon | June 17, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
If the bill ended up not being based on the task force, it seems as if Washington worked about the way it’s supposed to. Each side advocated its position and came to an agreement. So why keep bringing up Cheney’s task force as some sort of boogeyman?
Tell me, do Senators report every person they meet with and speak with as they make their policy proposals?
Posted by: MayBee | June 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
“no harvard doesnt make you smart but working your way through school and getting a law degree is no easy task”
obama didnt work his way thru school
HIs granny (the typical white person) paid for it.
full ride for barry.
no work invovled
Posted by: trettione | June 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
bhrandon -
It’s not that I did not wish to answer your questions, but they are all about McCain. Who cares about McCain, but he is no Bush, nor Obama. Whatever you want to label him, of continuing Bush, is untrue. Here, we are talking about the phony Obama.
If you do not like the 8 years gamble on GWB, I have no way of understanding why you wish to throw in another 4 years of gamble in a truly known unknown.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | June 17, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I would like to know what took mc-more-war so long to denounce the hagee endorsement. This will no doubt cause his trouble with the ever important Catholic vote this fall. I also agree with the real “straight-talker” John Murtha that the presidentcy is no place for an OLD man. There’s a good reason why pilots have to retire at age 60. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | June 17, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
“Obama’s excuse for voting for the bill is that the voices of the American people were heard. Which is it?
Posted by: geevill | Jun 17, 2008 2:01:43 PM”
What are they saying now? Continue on this course and make oil prices even higher?
The Senate bowed to OPEC and the greenies.
Really, you have to ask yourself how much money is being poured into Democratic pockets by the Arabs. Democrats bahave more like Senators for the Arab states than for the United States.
Posted by: drjohn | June 17, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Ask youselves- what has Obama done other than get elected?
When has he shown ny ability to get along with the opposition?
Obama’s history is to wait for the die to be cast and then take the tough stand. 129 times he voted “present” in the IL Senate.
He has NEVER taken a position that required guts. Anyone can see backwards, but none better than Barack.
Posted by: drjohn | June 17, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I would agree. Seem like all of them have the same single digit iq
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Isn’t it great that an average American can grow up, get a good education, work hard, and really make a difference in this country. Americans have funded Obama’s campaign by giving 10 or 20 dollars at a time because they see that this guy is the Real Deal. He’s the right guy to start cleaning up the whole bush-league mess. I suspect that Obama will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents ever. That’s good news since we are coming off the worst padministration in history. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | June 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
caio
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
deception by Bho. give him another $20 if know do not see it.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | June 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
pt,
KNOCK, KNOCK…IS THAT YOU, bhrandon? IS THAT YOU Omentum?
WHY ARE YOU HIDING BEHIND pt?
Posted by: neil1785 | June 17, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
from what i am hearing and seeing the closer we get to nov. the more people and groups who are signing on NOT to vote for obama.
i don’t think in anytime in modern political history, has it been so difficult for the average voter to know where the candidates really stand on issues. they both flip-flop.
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
McCain should pick Governor Palin as VP and put her in charge of getting the oil out of Alaska.
Posted by: geevill | June 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
President Obama
Practice saying it.
Get used to it.
Embrace it.
Omentum signing out
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Omentum, wrote, “Obama will wrap it up in November”
…OBAMA WILL BE WRAPPED UP FOR GOOD IN NOVEMBER AS AN EARLY CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR MCCAIN….
Posted by: neil1785 | June 17, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
First Lady Obama
YYEEEEEAAH!!!
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
neil
aka
cut n pastie.
Posted by: Omentum | June 17, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Obama is a liar, incompetent, spineless, unqualified, and has obviously very poor judgment; he should go back to being a street organizer.
Posted by: Pragmatist | June 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Let me tell you about McCain’s drilling strategy. We won’t fix anythign really, no real reform, we will however go and tap out our insurance policy to give a few yocals some money back on gas, as if that would actually happen, you know how we like oil companies to take up the profits instead of passing it on. So in reality, it makes no sense why anyone would vote for McCain
Posted by: Mack | June 17, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
McCain is about as smart as a pimple. Everyone knows he don’t know nothing. Bomb em, drill em (drill em good like that lobbysist lady), give $ to rich guys, that’ll solve everything
Posted by: Real Pragmatist | June 17, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
jgaw writes:
“we will probally find out in someone’ book later on how pushing obama for president was more out of the corp greed for more money than the patrotic need for this country to have a good president.”
Book publishing is the tippy-top of the corporate pyramid — manufacturing “culture” AND making oodles of money doing it. Most of what we see and hear as “culture” (including politics) on teevee and radio is about books published by corporations, who similarly drive what’s taught in universities (and fleece every student therein, one reason “education” — the field in which Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers spent so many lucrative years together) is prohibitively expensive for most).
Obama became rich by becoming an “author” owned by publishers.)
These guys are global, and don’t have any sentimental attachment to the “patriotism” of any mere nation-state.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 17, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Thanks for mentioning this.
Obama voted FOR the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill will both Senators Clinton and McCain voted against it.
What does that tell you?
Wake up, Super Delegates!!!
Are the powers that be ever going to call this man on anything???
Posted by: Annagain | June 17, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
omentum,
after the first 100 days of obama; presidency i would suggest you take your own advice to us.(besides i am not an obama hater-i just don’t think he will be able to handle the presidency)
Posted by: jgaw | June 17, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
How much money is mccain collecting in Social Security? Is his first wife still living, the one he cheated on and then went on to marry the millionaire? Why did he flip-flop on the tax breaks for the super rich? Why did he not denounce the hagee endorsement earlier? What was his role in the keating-5? Why didn’t he want any cameras around during the bush fund-raiser last week?? Really makes you say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm doesn’t it??
Posted by: pt | June 17, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Annagain writes:
“Obama voted FOR the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill will both Senators Clinton and McCain voted against it.
What does that tell you?”
Here, lemme guess: that the campaign for Obama is a Trojan horse filled with corporate uber-crats?
p.s. McCain won’t be the Republican nominee.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 17, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I think we should be drilling in the Arctic and offshore.
Posted by: 1percenter | June 17, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Mr. O’ is in the pocket of the energy industry via his handler Axelrove ( look up Exxelon). This is typical “I was for it before being against it”, Mr. O’ will tell you anything they think you want to hear, and his lemmings will will cheer no matter what, that’s some powerful kool-aid. The energy lobby will pocket the big bucks and we will be left with ‘Change’.
NObama.
Posted by: Wade | June 17, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
CEO salaries from many of our large oil companies are in the multi-millions (billions)? of dollars? Yet their stock owners earn hardly anything, consumers are struggling.. and
NO ONE NEEDS to be paid that well for rendering services guaranteed to keep other workers from living a normal life!
Higher gas prices equate to higher shipping charges equate to higher food, heating and cooking charges, equate to less(or non-existent) bbankable dollars.
DOWN WITH GREED!
UP WITH MCCAIN’S PLAN TO OPEN UP OFF SHORE DRILLING!!! A plan which was suggested by the Clintons years ago.
This won’t affect today’s market…. but hopefully, our country will be able to benefit from this belated action less than ten years down the line…. and we’ve got to start somewhere!!
Posted by: questioner | June 17, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Obama is a liar, incompetent, spineless, unqualified, and has obviously very poor judgment; he should go back to being a street organizer.
Posted by: Pragmatist | Jun 17, 2008 3:11:27 PM
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Exactly!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
pt writes:
“How much money is mccain collecting in Social Security?”
The funny thing about Social Security is that it was intended as a retirement system for POOR people. That was FDR’s intention.
At the time SS was being developed and implemented, it was expected — over-optimistically — that those who didn’t actually NEED Social Security wouldn’t DRAW it. The newspapers of the time, among other sources, are full of Letters to the Editor about this subject.
The conversion of Social Security into just another money-pot for the rich, and for middle-class corporate and government employees with other retirement income — while the poor who NEED it usually can’t get it — is the most egregious American example of pure greed run “legally” amok.
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 17, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
This isn’t so much about Hillary or McCain (who are both centrists) as it is about Obama. About his complete lack of experience (how is a street organizer qualification for the biggest job in the country?). About his State Senate experience – why won’t he release his records from those years, claiming they’re “lost”? About the fact that he only served 147 days in the U.S. Senate before deciding he was ready to be POTUS. About his talking out of both sides of his mouth to align himself with his audience. About his nefarious associates of the past 20 years. I would never vote for a person such as him for POTUS. I don’t care what he says his policies are – I don’t trust a word he says.
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
>>Pragmatist | Jun 17, 2008 3:11:27 PM
Have you ever SEEN how the streets in Chicago are organized?
At every light, there are five corners!
You can either go straight, take a soft right, a hard right, a soft left or a hard left!
After you puzzle that one out, you’re up to the next light.
Again, you can either go straight, take a soft right,a hard right, a soft left or a hard left.
Finally, you get two a two corner street light.
You can’t go ahead because there’s a block party or the lake…. and you can’t go right because it’s a one-way street…… even though you have to go the other way!
Please don’t send Obama back; Let him go to Kennedy land!
Mccain before obama
Posted by: questioner | June 17, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Questioner 3:54:41,
LOL,,I like that so much..
Thanks
Posted by: catleya | June 17, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
He needs to keep all his papers, don’t always lose it.
Now, he forgot what he voted back then.
Posted by: catleya | June 17, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
JGaw 2:13:42,
Really? It was on MSNBC?
Wow,,,that was a surprise.
Why now?
Posted by: catleya | June 17, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
“Really? It was on MSNBC?
Wow,,,that was a surprise.
Why now?”
Probably to set the stage for a bunch of stories about how much BETTER the Obama campaign (supposedly) is doing, by having hijacked the DNC to Chicago.
Posted by: Meerkat | June 17, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
cindy in nc -
DITTO.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | June 17, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm