Obama Up In Swing States; Clinton Would Be a Drag with Indies

Not surprising numbers, I’d say.

trying to distract from the 3 pm press conference?. Why is this poll so far off the others?

Anything to keep their empty-suit propped up.

jjandall
Obama made a personal apology to the women for the mistake of 2 staffers at the event. it’s not a campaign edict. get a grip

John McCain Is Against Women
If you vote for McCain, you are no Clinton supporter. DO NOT FORGET Lilly Ledbetter. She was paid half what her equally qualified male coworkers were paid. She proved that she was discriminated against on the basis of her sex, which was and is still illegal.
When the Republican Supreme Court that she should have filed within 180 days of having been hired — which was impossible for her to do since she didn’t know her coworkers salaries –the Democrats in Congress tried to return the law to the court’s interpretation for the last 20 years, where you had to file within 180 days of the last discriminatory paycheck.
The Republicans held a FILIBUSTER to prevent the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act from coming to a VOTE. And John McCain says they did the right thing.
McCain wants to makes sure that Lilly and any other woman being paid half that of their male coworkers — which is still illegal — will never have justice!

kim
thanks for throwing your vote away and voting against everything the democrats, hillary, and supposedly you believed in…
give one good reason to vote for mccain
and ps not all 18 million people that voted for clinton are being childish 2 year olds who want to jeapordize so very much because they are angry and want to get revenge…
the vast majority of those voters will indeed vote for obama.

Kind of odd, isn’t it, that the pundits are so sure that Hillary supporters will fall in line for Obama, but independents will….do what? Stay home? Vote McCain?….if Clinton is the VP? Traitorous for us to do it, they say, but okay for independents to do the same?

These polls are so far off the others b/c these are the first pollings since Clinton left the race.
Her backers are backing Obama and slowly but surely are grasping the fact Clinton won’t be the 44th president.
It’s either Obama (similar policies to Clinton) or McCain (same policies as Bush)
Obama is winning the battle.

bhrandon,
Bullies always are amused by the reactions of people they hurt.

Debra tell me one reason why you are voting for mccain?

It’s way too early for smugness. We’ll see how the empty-suit fairs over the coming months, once things start to get nasty. Hillary was barely able to scratch the surface. He’ll be smoking 2 packs a day by November, if he makes it that far.

pg
huh?
and TO
whos minimizing her 18 million votes?

exactly debra
you are a republican

And I believe there will be more people that want real change not cheap rhetoric.

Everyone knows Hillary is a better pol and campaigner than Mccain.
McCain doesn’t have a chance with months to go. You see shallow campaigning on fear can be debunked.
He has put his whole presidency ahead of things his father and grandfather fought for. The things that make America the country that people look up to…or use to look up to.
and will again.

give one good reason to vote for mccain
1. To ensure economic and physical security.
2. To defeat a movement dedicated to the redistribution of wealth and power based on racial heritage.
3. To bring stability to the processes in Washington that went too far right.
4. To defeat a candidate that is too far left.
5. To p*** you off.
Pick one.

Interesting polls that are very interesting for both sides I think. Very good early news for Obama, but I commented yesterday that its not a forgone conclusion yet. I think given what I think the nature of the campaign will be though McCain faces an uphill task. He is going to have to out speak Obama at the Conventions(Unlikely) and hope for an Obama mistake at a debate somewhere (more likely, but not a given) and that Obama doesn’t come off as as capable as McCain in the debates. All of this is quite tough for McCain, and while he can claim a level of momentum by keeping it close for now, the McCain campaign still has the most work to do it seems to me.

comicrelief you should work for hte bush administration as you are pretty good with taking differnet words in a story and mixing them up to formulate your own story
perhaps a spot in the mccain camp

well len
id say all of those arguments you have displayed are heresey at best…
didnt even name one policy you agree with from mccain

lol mack you know its true
what has he defied his party on? where is his centrist attitude gone?
well he was against off shore drilling, he was for tlaking to hamas and other leaders to be diplomatic, and he was against keeping the people of gitmo locked away in the legal black hole that it was and he wanted them to be able to go to trial
and now????
well hes for off shore drilling, he doesnt want to talk to hamas or anyone instead he just wants to fight wars, and hes against the gitmo ruling…

Debra you said you were a republican, so… dont worry the dem money will stay with the dems, and your REPUBLICAN money will go to the repubs
and his resume isnt simply… OH MY HE JUST SHOWED UP AND HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE…. he actually has more experience then a lot of other people who BECAME PRESIDENT
Ronald Reagan, who served as the President of the United States from 1981-1989, had only eight years of government experience – three fewer than Obama – on his “resume.”
Similarly, 20th century Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson won the presidency despite having thinner resumes than Obama (Wilson, for example, served a single two-year term as the Governor of New Jersey prior to becoming President).
This is a common myth perpetuated by the right and reinforced by Senator Clinton who had less elected and legislative experience than Obama. Additionally, both Bush and Bill Clinton had less foreign policy experience than Senator Obama.
And of course, as well as Senator Obama’s 8 years in the State Senate of Illinois and 3 years in Congress, a total of 11 years in elected office, he has something that is probably more important and more relevant to becoming President than any one of the candidates who vied for the Presidency this year, and that is his years spent teaching constitutional law.
Since George Bush has repeatedly wiped his boots on the constitution, I can’t think of a better qualification than Senator Obama’s experience as a constitutional Law Professor for the University of Chicago and his his civil rights experience as a lawyer.
Our constitution is in dire need of someone as President who respects it, and understands it from a legal standpoint.

be. I will votedl, let me just be clear on my position, which I have no problems backing up. When I decided to support Hillary Clinton, it was based on thorough research of her position, voting record and entire career. In the beginning I thought that Obama and Hillary were not that far apart on the issues, however as I delved into the policies and the positions and watched the debates and the interviews I realized a few things. Half of the ideas that Obama had came from Clinton, half of the people that were supporting Obama had absolutely no idea what his policies and record was, and when asked to dig deep and give clear concise answers on how you would accomplish and pay for your proposed initiatives there has been no answer only deflections and now he is doing the same thing with McCain. As the primary season wrapped up. I went back to Obama’s site and pulled down and printed out his proposals and policies and I pulled down John McCain’s and I don’t buy for one minute that McCain would continue the Bush Policies, McCain has a proven record of working across the aisles, he has a proven record of going against the republicans if he was not in agreement and he is a man of honor and we know 150% that he loves this country, therefore. I am more apt to vote for McCain because I know that he is experienced, and there is no lingering doubt in my mind about his motives for wanting to be president, or his background, it is wide open for the world to see. The whole 3rd Bush term is an Obama talking point and those who follow him will believe it, but those who really care about this election will research both candidate and their voting records and their background and come to a valid conclusion of their own will. Obama has proven to be a slippery politician and it saddens me because as an African American Woman with a Boy Child. I want my son to see that he can be anything that he wants to be and Obama should be a great example of that, but to me he is not the right example to many unanswered questions. My vote For Hillary was not transferable, it was specific. I have been a registered Democrat for 22 years and this is the first time that I will not be voting for a straight Democratic Ticket, until they become a party of the people like they use to independent.

I guess if you want to go there, I remember Obama saying something about invading Pakistan. A very unstable Pakistan that actually has nuclear weapons. Not very good policy, but then again since he has zero foreign policy experience what would you expect.

Careful MACK Obama was talking about going after Osama in pakastan not over throwing the govenment. And by the way weren’t the repubs going to smoke him out bring him to justice? Were is he obviously not in Iraq.

“I dont know how you can be for the environment and also for off shore drilling”
And the Donner party was opposed to cannibalism.

Joe…if there is tape on it we would have heard it, like all the tape we have on Wright/Obama mentor hating this country, Jews, and whitey. Believe me, it would have been out there and played on cable news. Sad that’s all you guys can smear McCain with and OBAMA HAS A FRIGGIN WEBSITE TO ADDRESS ALL THE RUMORS/SMEARS LINKED TO HIS QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER!

You have to love this post from Len
in response to the question
give one good reason to vote for mccain this is what len has to say lol
1. To ensure economic and physical security. (you obviously have not looked at the economic policies and not seen the news about afghanistan and pakistan in the past few weeks…you know where al quaeda…the guys who blew up the towers and attacked us…live… that we are so up to our eyeballs in Iraq…that they go get stronger and are actually using Bush/McCain’s foreign policy effectively to exponentially recruit more terrorists)
2. To defeat a movement dedicated to the redistribution of wealth and power based on racial heritage. (well if you mean the racial heritage of white, black, asian, american indian, indian, latino, and the rest getting some of the burden from 5 % of the country getting more reward from this country and not paying equitably for that reward…you know while single mothers and people on minimum wage try to raise their kids without healthcare and feed them and keep a roof over their heads…
and that 9 times out of 10 multi millionaire daddy bought my education corporate ceo-cfo-cio-cco can’t buy another vacation home…then yeah…I would agree with that movement. This country can’t afford and our infrastructure and future can’t afford the wealthy tax cuts and loopholes)
3. To bring stability to the processes in Washington that went too far right.(it is hard to see how voting for a man that has now promised that far right he will do what they want for him to be able to get their vote for President)
4. To defeat a candidate that is too far left. (How is he too far left…their is no difference in his policies than almost any dem that ran…and please don’t quote the national journal…they used stupid fake math)
5. To p*** you off.(I think you voting for McCain won’t p*** us off…just your kids when they learn you voted that way… and to be honest …it’ll be nothing compared to the idea of Len hammerin and hollerin around the day of the election because with all his bologne…no one listened…lol)
Pick one.

No way Obama goes for Clinton.
It’ll be Obama/Bayh vs. McCain/Schwarzeneger.

Polls at this time means NOTHING.
Check the polls after the labor day..
No TV commercials 24/7 yet………
Stay tune….after you see all the
anti-americans with Hussein Obama
such as pastor Wright etc.on TV 24/7.
Americans vote for president with certain values.
Hussein Obama=zero values…..
He is UN-ELECTABLE………..

bhrandon
Debra does not realize the numbers don’t really lie…there are more of us than there are of them. As far as the blogs…We are just a couple of people who comment still because we are the only ones can’t let go of refuting the “crazies” that are out there …everyone else has moved on from the few people on here throwing out statements that don’t have any fact to back them up.
We will not let this country be run down that road with twisting the truth and fear that got us here.
Change is a comin… and unless you can put up facts…that hold water which none of you do… the next 8 years is President Obama…and a future that looks a lot brighter than it does now.

I guess you really can’t argue against a vapor policy of change, hope and what I really meant was…..

B, how much spillage occurred in the oil rigs when they were hit by Katrina? I do not know… but how many oil spills have ruined miles and miles of coastland, and destroyed fragile sea life? Do you think opening up all of our coast for drilling will result in zero spills?
do you think opening up the drilling will reduce our gas prices AT ALL? And by how much 20 cents? 10 cents?
How much starvation will the use of ethanol create in the third world?
there are many other forms of alternative energy as opposed to your weak argument here
How many miles can a semi loaded with lettuce drive on an empty tank? well this is obviously zero miles… no matter what source of energy we are using…
that was fun i got one for you…
whats heavier a ton of sand or a ton of feathers?
Will a tanker loaded with oil from the Chinese rigs pumped off the American shores unload in San Francisco or Hong Kong? I do not know? If we refuse to use oil does it matter?
How much heat can we keep from contributing to global warming by turning off the Google server farms? A lot less then by killing all the cows in the world
How many roads must a chicken walk down before he knows he’s a chicken?
i dont know… which came first you are me?

Polls at this time means NOTHING.
Check the polls after the labor day..
No TV commercials 24/7 yet………
Stay tune….after you see all the
anti-americans with Hussein Obama
such as pastor Wright etc.on TV 24/7.
Americans vote for president with certain values.
Hussein Obama=zero values…..
He is UN-ELECTABLE………..
Posted by: TEXAN | Jun 18, 2008 3:01:17 PM
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You said it Texan……………no one will pay any attention ALL summer. I won’t even watch. listen or speak of this drivel.
Pathetic NUMBERS! LOL LOL LOL

well lunch time

You’d be surprised at what a few well timed ads can do to a person’s poll numbers. He’s no longer in the comfortable vacuum of the Democratic party. It’s time to sink or swim, and with pastor wright and the rest of his baggage on his back, I hope that he doesn’t have to swim too far.

Well as a Clinton supporter I guess it doesn’t matter if I vote for Obama, so I will just vote for John McCain. I am one of 18 million that will not matter.
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Me too. The Obama people need to unite the party and not put it all on Hillary. Hey Obama people petition to have Hillary put on the ticket. You want us to come your way, give us a reason.

“Len their have been 80 significant environmental “accidents” with the off shore oil rigs in the past couple of years.”
Good. A hard claim is made.
Ok, show the citations. If we are to debate, where are the accidents cited and explained?
Let’s look!

Did use see the GOP produce buttons that say.. If obama is pres… can we still call it the white house..
Fear mongering racists= GOP
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:41 PM
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The WH has been filthy dirty putrid for 8 YEARS!

Did use see the GOP produce buttons that say.. If obama is pres… can we still call it the white house..
Fear mongering racists= GOP
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:41 PM
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The WH has been filthy, dirty, putrid for 8 YEARS!
Posted by: HP Boston | Jun 18, 2008 3:22:39 PM
Well maybe they are POED about the basketball court being first priority!

Up on what monkey bars?

No surprise that Hillary would have been a drag. Her old-timey “I’m a fighter” politics are a relic of the past. Most Independents want a new level of discourse and Hillary would not have provided it.

@joe: The future’s not ours to see. Que sera sera.

Debra, oh please it wasn’t about the Clintons.

I have no idea who these people polled, but in NorthWest Georgia and Southern Tennessee, I do not know anyone voting for Hussein Obama or John McCain. Admittedly, the lessor of two evils comments prevail in conversations as no one in this area feels we have a worthy candidate for president. Also, it would not be a good idea for Howard Dean or Nancy Pelosi to run for dog-catcher in this area after the way he has behaved and shoved Hussein down our throats and dished Mrs. Clinton for months. Furhter, Al Gore ruined his political career this week when he basically slapped the Clinton’s in the face. The majority of people I know, work with, and associate with are joining the band-wagon and are planning to vote for neither Hussein nor John but rather plan to write-in their vote for Hillary Clinton … including myself.

“Explain to me how drilling our waters brings down the price?”
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For argument sake lets say that the democrats are correct and it is speculators that are driving up the price of oil. Speculators drive up the price of oil by buying it now in anticipation of selling it for more in the future (in essence they are hording oil, if only on paper). If we have more supply coming on line in the future they will not be able to sell that oil for as much in the future and as a consequence have less incentive to buy oil now. This will put more oil in the market now, thus bringing down the price.