Obama’s Answer on the Johnson Conundrum
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller today asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, how he could "rail against Countrywide Financial Corp as an example of insiders and today’s economy while your VP search is headed by someone who got questionable loans from Countrywide?" (This is an issue we wrote about earlier today.)
"And in addition," Miller continued, "another person on that same VP search team – Eric Holder — has also been involved in the Marc Rich scandal."
"Well, look," Obama said, "the, the, I mean – first of all I am not vetting my VP search committee for their mortgages, so you’re gong to have to direct — "
"But shouldn’t you?" asked Miller.
"Well, no," Obama said. "It becomes sort of a, um, I mean, this is a game that can be played – everybody, you know, who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships — I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters. I mean, at some point, you know, we just asked people to do their assignments.
"Jim Johnson has a very discrete task," Obama continued, "as does Eric Holder, and that is simply to gather up information about potential vice presidential candidates. They are performing that job well, it’s a volunteer, unpaid position. And they are giving me information and I will then exercise judgment in terms of who I want to select as a vice presidential candidate.
"So this – you know, these aren’t folks who are working for me," Obama said. "They’re not people you know who I have assigned to a job in a future administration and, you know, ultimately my assumption is that, you know, this is a discreet task that they’re going to performing for me over the next two months."
You can watch some of this press conference HERE.
Did I read that correctly? Did Obama claim that Johnson and Holder — two of the three people heading up his VP search committee — aren’t "work"ing for him?
I suppose that’s because they’re unpaid, but my stars, that’s a lot of high-level, time-consuming sensitive effort to not be considered "working" for Sen. Obama.
- jpt
UPDATE: Sen. John McCain presidential campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds just pounced on this, saying “It’s preposterous for Senator Obama to claim that the leader of his VP selection committee isn’t working for him. Barack Obama has castigated Countrywide Financial, but now that Jim Johnson has been exposed for taking sweetheart deals from Countrywide’s CEO – Obama is in a state of denial. It’s that brand of weak leadership and hypocrisy that shows why Barack Obama has no record of taking courageous stands or making change in Washington.”
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jpt,
it is just no accounting for obama and his “stuff” anymore.
you know, uh, i mean, let me be clear,
they don’t work for , you know me, they just uh, do “stuff”
I picked them,they don’t have to use their judgement, i’ll be the judgementor
it is up to me. you know.
oh my god, what hath y’all wroth,
(because i didn’t vote for him-and will not vote for him now}
if none of the above could be on the ballot.
none of the above would win in a landslide.
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
This is what we’re going to get for 4-8 years. Rhetoric of changing the “old politics” firmly rooted in business as usual. Brilliant marketing.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 10, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Poor BO he is not living up to his marketing hype!
Ah maybe ah he is well just umm so STUPID!!
Posted by: HP Boston | June 10, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Jim Johnson, the disciplined, discreet and obsessively meticulous vice presidential vetter for Barack Obama, is a stalwart of the Washington establishment.
____________________________________
Obama and the INSIDERS….a movie coming to a theater near you.
Posted by: HP Boston | June 10, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
“Well, look,” Obama said, “the, the, I mean ”
Did you see that, Obama without Teleprompter
THE HA HA HA HA HA
CHANGE
NA OSI SD IHUSDHIS SIUD
HOPE
afdsf sdfsd f
Posted by: John | June 10, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
this is going to be fun to watch
Posted by: Ronnie Wrangler | June 10, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I guess it is too late to ask Mrs. Clinton to unsuspend her campaign?
No. It is too early.
Let it roll.
Posted by: len | June 10, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
This is silly. Vet the vetter? Must be a slow news day.
Posted by: hang | June 10, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Who really cares about this?
Posted by: Brandon | June 10, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
I Bet
Keith/Chris at MSNBC will not cover this news at all. You know they are in this Cult too.
Jack , You are doing a good Job at ABC
Posted by: John | June 10, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Fannie Mae is government-sponsored (you know our tax payer dollars), so why should CEO Jim Johnson receive “special treatment”? “Countrywide was severely battered by the subprime mortgage crisis and is in the process of being bought out by Bank of America Corp. for a fraction of its former value. The lender also is under federal investigation for possible securities fraud”, the Wall Street Journal
Now it turns out that the campaign “bundler” Jim Johnson is leading Obama’s vice presidential selection. The same Jim Johnson that received highly questionable loans and received favors that the average American would never get. Obama attacks in his speech in North Carolina the housing industry for granting too many irresponsible loans—what hypocrisy and double standards.
Posted by: Anne | June 10, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
NoMcSAME ,
your qouting the huffington post, please , taht garbage is so one sided Obamism that I hurl just thinking of the editor. get some unbiased information please!
Yeah Obama taking it, Oh did you see the front page of ABC at least 2-3 Obama articles with the words Obama Attacks. oh but wait he never attacks it is always the other side. ROFL. Where’s my guns , I have to go to church.
Posted by: DW | June 10, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Strictly from a spectator’s standpoint, Obama is no fun. He never wants to play the game. When you don’t play the game, you get shoved off the field. And good riddance. This guy is an empty suit. If he hadn’t been so hypocritical, and attacked Clinton for this, it would be a non story, but the hypocrisy is stunning. And the denial is even worse.
Posted by: Rachel | June 10, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
“Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”, “Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”, “Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”, “Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”, “Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”, “Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”, “Um”, “Look”, “I mean”, “you know”…..this guy cannot think off the top of his head. He needs a prepared script 24/7. You don’t see this inane filler in his speeches do you? Speak volumes about this guy.
Posted by: Scabby-Nubtail | June 10, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
He wants us to be able to claim “children” on tax returns until they are 25.
Posted by: Janice | June 10, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
um..um…well…look…um…well…
OMG!
Posted by: Bridget | June 10, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
This is the real change that we can believe in.
Posted by: Mack | June 10, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
And the vetting begins. Too bad the media was too scared to do it during the primary. I hope Obama is ready, it’s only going to get worse.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | June 10, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Do as I say, not as I do. Yes we can…bamboozle you.
Posted by: Mack | June 10, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
what and mccains sleeping with phil gramm
please this is the most ridiculous and boring accusation ever…
hillarys not in the race anymore what do we report on???? WAHHHHHHH
i love that mccain is attacking this because hes going to get slammed for all of his dirty dealings with big business…
lol cmon …. yawwwwnnn
OH NO A FIST BUMP TERRORISTS!!!
OH NO A LOAN TERRORISTS
OH NO Hes AN EMPTY SUIT
and mccain is just dust in the wind my friends
Posted by: bhrandon | June 10, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. Senate on Tuesday voted against taking up a new energy package that would revoke $17 billion in tax breaks extended to big oil companies like Exxon Mobil Corp and slap a 25 percent windfall profits tax on firms that don’t invest in new energy sources.
A week after U.S. oil prices hit an all-time peak of $139.12 a barrel and average U.S. pump prices topped $4 a gallon for the first time, Democrats moved to act on soaring gasoline pump prices, which are a growing political liability in the November presidential election.
The Consumer-First Energy Act — assembled by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and other key Democrats — would tax big energy companies and seek to put checks on oil market speculation.
But the bill’s opponents — mostly Republicans — blocked a key vote that would have allowed the Senate to formally debate the bill. The White House had threatened to veto it.
THANKS MCCAIN AND THE REPUBS yay for lame tax holidays
Posted by: bhrandon | June 10, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Mack
Oh, why don’t we hire people to vett the people vetting the people vetting the vetters? This is the highest level of lunacy. I don’t even know why Obama is answering these stupid questions. What is wrong with a man getting a good deal on his mortgage loan? Is that a crime now in this country?
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
So he didn’t vet the people who will vet the candidates for his last counselor. It’s ironic that he wants us to settle down and relax because the decision he ends up making should be completely thorough, and should not leave any rock unturned. Now he wants to disregard that two of the people who will put together the information have highly questionable pasts. I wonder if he would accept intelligence data that these two men might produce.
Posted by: mikey | June 10, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Get Obama a teleprompter and a written speech, he cannot think or talk without one.
Posted by: Anne | June 10, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Lou
I think there isa difference between criticizing a man for having lobbyists running his campaign,a nd having a man that got a sweet-deal loan from Countrywide working for you. Johnson is NOT a lobbyist for Countrywide. Never was. Only idiots don’t get the difference.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
The SDs in dem. party should re-think their endorsement on Obama.
Obama will make bring shame to the whole party.
If Obama does something wrong, later, people will blame the whole dem. party.
SDs can and should switch their vote, to avoid future regret.
If the judge himself is not clean, how can he make clean judgement on VP?
Posted by: golfgirlusa | June 10, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
I just heard McCain want to bring back prohibition!
Seriously, who cares about the volunteer vetters.
Posted by: Pete | June 10, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Who would have thought in a billion Barry years that a politician from Chicago would be sleazy?
What a shocker that one…
Slick Barry…
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller | June 10, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Did pollsters take any poll to find out what % American knows Obama reads from Teleprompter written by Speech writer almost all the time?
Posted by: John | June 10, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
“I will veto every beer.”
- Sen. John McCain
What an idiot!
Posted by: Pete | June 10, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
This is such a petty and stupid issue. “Old style” politics. The republicans and anyone else who brought this crap up needs to be focused on jobs, gas prices, healthcare, supreme court choices, war etc….
Posted by: leslie | June 10, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Lou
Obama never slammed McCain for having someoene on his staff that got a good deal from Countrywide. Obama slammed McCain for having LOBBYISTS running his campaign, including some LOBBYISTS that worked for Countrywide. There is a CLEAR difference. If you cannot see it, then you are stupid. I got a good deal from Countrywide. I got a good deal because i make good money and have perfect credit. There is NOTHING wrong with that. The problem here is that Obama’s campaign is wasting time responding to this idiocy. They should have ignored it.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
OBAMA, PLEASE GO AWAY!!!!
Posted by: maggie | June 10, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Obama’s hired hand, inherited from Ted Kennedy, has never picked a Winner President – ever.
If Obama fires them, it should be for the bad job they did starting out the task of discrete searching for VP. Already on the first day their work was in the papers.
Obama keeps this charade going, which is why he should be prepared for the consequences of lying when they aim to explain why not Clinton. Clinton won the popular vote, and if situation was reverse this would not be a question. Obama, stop horsing around!
Obama/Clinton 08!
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | June 10, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
neil1785
Decidely liberal website huh? Haha, very funny.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Tucker Bounds just pounced on this, saying “…. Barack Obama has castigated Countrywide Financial, but now that Jim Johnson has been exposed for taking sweetheart deals from Countrywide’s CEO – Obama is in a state of denial. ”
As has been reported, Johnson received a mortgage loan with a rate higher than the market rate. So how is it exactly a sweetheart deal?
Posted by: T | June 10, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
THE SUPERDELEGATES CHOSE THEIR CANDIDATE, NOT THE PEOPLE.
Posted by: STEVE | June 10, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
I SMELL HILLARY IN DENVER CONVENTION THIS AUGUST. THE MORE OBAMA SPEAKS ON ECONOMY, NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY, THE MORE HE FALTERS ON THESE SUBJECTS. HE NEEDS TO FIND MORE CHEAT WAYS TO TRICK DNC INTO BELIEVING THAT HE REALLY IS THE ONE THAT WILL TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Kevin
Nono. Here is just one idiot: Sen. Obama who thinks everybody is naiv and stupid. Maybe you are but I’m not!
Posted by: Bridget | June 10, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I don’t which is worse a bunch of idiots defending obama or another bunch defending macaine. THEY BOTH SUCK. Wake up folks, soros has bought both of these losers.
Posted by: Dark Helmet | June 10, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Let’s face it. The DNC, along with the Superdelegates had no other choice but to “SELECT” not “ELECT” their candidate.
There were threats of rioting and causing great harm buy disenchanted Black voters, if Mr., Obama wasn’t the Democratic candidate.
SO maybe in a way, we are all saved from being in harms way by these liberal idiots.
You can thank AL Sharpton and all the other pundits for putting fear into the DNC gang.
Posted by: myrta | June 10, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
No one wants change here. It’s quite obvious.
Posted by: GetaLife | June 10, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
This is why we need Hillary to fight at the convention for a floor fight.
Because by time August rolls around this man will be in tatters from all the vetting the MSM will finally do.
Posted by: toby | June 10, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
At least senator Obama can pronounce NUCLEAR and can spell POTATO for all you dummies out there mocking his response to a question.
Senator Obama is brilliant!!!!
And he will be the 44th president of the USA. wow!!!
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Bridget
I am beginning to believe that you and most of the critics in here do not even understand this story. What Johnson did was get a loan from Countrywide at below market rates. But Wallstreet Journal (doing a hatchet job for the GOP) even confessed that there was nothing wrong with the loan. Johnson is a multi-millionaire with impeccable credit. Folks like that ALWAYS get rates at below market value. Jesus Christ! What is the story here? Folks like you hate Obama so much that you will use ANYTHING, however senseless, to tarnish the man’s image.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“Politics as usual” delivered to America in a pretty package labeled “Change”.
Obama’s campaign from it’s core is hypocrisy……in his book he railed against an IL company that was shipping jobs overseas….his fundraisers were the owners of the compay.
Just say NO!
PUMA
Posted by: Jackie | June 10, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
You GO JOHN….
Posted by: Irish Gal | June 10, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
nnitwh:
don’t be so hard on youself, dude…..Are you now having voter’s remorse?
Senator Obama cannot save you by your vote….You have to get up and do something beyong a vote, bud…..
Relax; and stop beating yourself down because of your voting choice..
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I used to worry about listening to him for 4 years. Now I worry about listening to him for the next five months.
His surrounding himself with insiders is nothing new. Just look at the primary. Left wing Dem power players flocked to him and bailed on Clinton. Anyone really surprised by this?
Posted by: Kris | June 10, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
I feel dumber for having watched that. The man is a moron. Where’s the MSM. Bush is a great speaker compared to Barack “ah… er… um… I mean… they work for me, but they don’t work for me” Obama.
I mean every week we have this guy talking out his butt. A new you tube clip almost every day. At this rate the google servers are going to need a lot more gigs of storage for you tube.
I can see google’s next quarterly report. Earning down 20% because we have buy more servers every time Obama opens his mouth we get more gaffe clips.
Posted by: JT | June 10, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Have to wonder how the hits on your website and viewership on the mainstream and cable network news is playing out now that Hillary is out.
I am back to watching the weather channel before work in the morning and re-runs of sitcoms in the evenings.
These broadcasters will be losing tons of advertising revenues now. You guys really shot yourselves in the foot when you drove Hillary out of the race with your sexist biases.
I’m a man, and the blatant disrespect for this woman turned my stomach. This race is going to turn into one of the biggest “yawns” in recent memory.
McCain is okay, Obama is a moron. Every time he opens his mouth (minus his teleprompter) he reaffirms it.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell | June 10, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Kevin
I think you don’t understand what is my problem. Obama said Johnson isn’t working for him. Really? So, what is he doing?
Posted by: Bridget | June 10, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Obama is a pathetic, weak excuse of a candidate. How embarrassing for his followers.
Posted by: Jenny | June 10, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Clinton suspended her campaign for a reason – and it wasn’t all about campaign debt.
I hope she doesn’t campaign for him at all. Let him hang himself. She needs to stay far away from this guy. I thought I could hold my nose and vote for him if Clinton was on the ticket, but no more. Even Hillary won’t be able to save this guy. AND if Hillary can’t no one else will either.
Posted by: kris | June 10, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
I am shocked (Wright) and dismayed (Pfleger) that Obama would ever chose to be around people (Ayers) who are not of the highest ethical quality.
Posted by: Lisa S | June 10, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
You all want to just jump on every glittery thing…
don’t look at the issues…look at this thing over here…he got a good mortgage rate (but don’t look at the fact that he has numbers that would give him that rate)
just keep looking at the glittery sparkly distraction…c’mon you’re all smart…you know you want to look at this …no no…don’t look at my lack of a plan …or the similarities between me and bush…keep looking at this sparkly thing over here….
that’s a good voter…there there…just keep focusing on this…
a lot of people who fall for the stupid stuff all the time…
this is a non-issue …not only is this not real…but it falls into distraction …and then wait two months and everyone will say…oh I guess that was a non-issue… there is no correlation. Find the correlation first reporters and then make it a story.
but atleast you got to play with the sparkly little glittery thing you were shown.
duh.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“What Hillary Really Wants”!!!
Many people, including Hillary Clinton, have been asking themselves recently” What does HIllary Clinton really want? After any level of examination, the answer should be quite clear; she wants all of her supporters to vote for John McCain. This conclusion may seem at odds with her endorsement of Barack Obama, but only if you have not paid close attention to the entire primary election.
As many of you remember, Hillary Clinton gave it all for her candiancy. She spent months making the case that Barack Obama was unelectable, inexperienced, immature about foreign policy, even dangerous in comparison to John McCain. She also made the case that SHE was highly qualified, had the strong record on social issues and had the necessary judgement to be Commander in Chief.
Many times she even made it a pooint to mention that McCain had already crossed the Commander in Chief threshold, while Obama had obviously failed to do the same.
Bill Clinton even made a point to say “It would be great to see a race between two people who really love their country”, something that made all within the Obama campaign CRINGE, for the obvious implications of said statement; Obama is NOT patiotic enough to run for our highest office(the nefarious legacy ogf Rev. Wright, Mr. Khalidi and Mr. Ayers).
Posted by: maggie | June 10, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Very one is just talking. This Country is for the PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE, SO THE PEOPLE SHOULD STAND UP FOR THIS COUNTRY, and till the GOVERMENT WHAT WE WANT.Not what they want. Little by little they take are rights away,and we do nothing except be self centerd insteaed of I it should be WE THE PEOPLE.Don’t want to be tax over and over again.the working people of this Country keep this country going Why should we stand by while they make a fool of it.MEN ARE STILL DIEING FOR ARE FREEDOM AS THEY DIED BEFORE ARE THEY ALL GOING TO DIE INVAIN. For this.
Posted by: rae gr | June 10, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
He says these aren’t guys he;s saying will be working for him in the administration.
Posted by: Nik | June 10, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Lou: Thank you I am a member of Pump Pac.
Posted by: maggie | June 10, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
nomcsame -
Clinton will never, never get anywhere near Obama. If by some stroke of luck he wins – she will NEVER be a part of his administration. So stop the b.s. to appease Clinton supporters.
Posted by: kris | June 10, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Yet another “guilt by association” story… complete with fake disbelief by the author.
Here is how this connection would matter… If Countrywide Financial exercised some sort of influence over Johnson and Johnson is later appointed by Obama to a position where he exercises decision-making powers. Even then, you have to buy that where this guy gets his mortages directly speaks to his ability to do his job.
As it is, Johnson is gathering information and reporting to the campaign. He is not making any decisions. He is not a paid employee speaking on behalf of the campaign.
I didn’t agree with the way the Obama campaign used “guilt by association” to link Clinton staffers with ties to Countrywide to Clinton herself. And I don’t agree with how its being used now.
And what is it with Tucker Bounds? Does he sit in a room all day, just waiting to be outraged? Pathetic.
Posted by: PJ | June 10, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
NoMcSAME,
SUPERDELEGATES CAN STILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS BETWEEN NOW AND DENVER. THE MORE HE PRETENDS HE KNOWS ECONOMY, THE MORE HE FALTERS. THE MORE PEOPLE GET DISGUSTED WITH HIS INCOMPETENCE, THE MORE DNC WILL REALIZE, THEY MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE OF CHOOSING THE WRONG CANDIDATE.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
My god Obama, just admit you are wrong.
What is wrong with this man??????
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Four days out from under the protective umbrella of the Democratic party where the candidates were forced to “play nice” and Obama is collapsing like a house of cards under the pressure.
Look out baby boy, it’s going to get worse. What were you Democrats thinking. You let a bunch of new, first-time voters determine the fate of the party. They will be nowhere to be found come election time.
Obama was a fad, here today and gone before tomorrow.
Good luck. Many thanks to the moron superdelegates. It’s already over – took less than a week
Posted by: Bill Elliott | June 10, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I’m sure multi-millionaires mccain and his wife got some good loan deals. why don’t we criticize them too! and all the other wealthy people who got good deals on their home and personal loans, as a matter of fact.
Posted by: jason | June 10, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
I’m personally was not all bent out of shape about Obama being associated with Trinity Church but he (and definately those around him advised him of such)
knew that Wright and Trinity could potentially be problematic in a Presidential run. The minute he decided to run for President he should have cut ties with Trinity or dealt with it early on before it was in the hands of Fox News. His “judgement” was not to do such. So why would anyone be surprised at his judgement in regards to Johnson and Holder. For someone who is basing his campaign on his “judgement” (since he doesn’t have enough in regards to record and experience to base it on) he certainly seems to have a history in this short time since he’s been running for President in displaying bad judgement.
Posted by: alpaig | June 10, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Oh now I get it. Now that Obama’s campaign has been exposed as having questionable ties, it’s not ok to vet these people.
But when McCain voluntarily had people resign from his campaign for questionable ties the Obamamaniacs pounced on him. Never mind the fact McCain basically made them resign.
So why isn’t Obama making these people resign?
Weak leader. Hypocrite. Arrogance to the ponit of destruction.
JUST ADMIT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW SUSPECT AND TAKE THEM OFF YOUR CAMPAIGN
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
JA -
Obama is never wrong – haven’t you learned that by now? It’s always someone elses fault.
Posted by: kris | June 10, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
aaaah. uh huh.
Posted by: Barack Obama | June 10, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
GetaLife – You presume too much…she wanted to position because she knows with her experience she is the best candidate regardless of how many people turned this nomination into a popular contest …sounds a lot like High school lets pick the most popular – whole image rather then a person who is more cpabaile of doing the job…
Posted by: dell | June 10, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I’m not pressuming, I just have no trust or faith in Hillary aside for what she will do for herself.
Posted by: GetaLife | June 10, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
SO DAMN WHAT!
Absolutely everyone on McCains campaign works as a lobbyist against our interest. THE MSM NEVER HAS OR NEVER WILL DIRECTLY QUESTION HIM NOR WILL THE LILLY WHITE POSTERS HERE. @#$%^&HYPOCRITES.
Sharon, may u dream of black men every night – i do
I’m Israeli 100% for Hillary and now Obama (she lost & i’ve gotton over it)
Posted by: freewhitewayover21 | June 10, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
PJ – nicely put…
Posted by: dig4truth | June 10, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
That seems to be the logic. Either we really are just too dense to correctly interpret the subtleties of what he said, or else he misspoke, pushed the wrong button to vote, or who knows what else.
My question is why is he doing this? Obviously he’s in the wrong. Is it because he thinks it will taint his “clean image”. I have to say, the right thing to do would be to remove these people and thank the people for vetting them. Not trying to deny they work for you! How ludicrous.
Every day that passes I think less of this man.
Who to vote for???? Not a McCain fan, but not sure I could swallow a 2nd Carter term (=Obama)
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The scary thing about Obama is he continues to lie and deny….this is a campaign strategy. So in one respect this is not politics as usual….he doesn’t bother to distance himself from corruption of people that are at odds with his speechmaking and policies until he is absolutely backed into a corner….
Hypocrisy in “plain site” depends on a media that cooperates with Obama’s campaign rather than operates outside his marketing and PR machine.
Posted by: Jackie | June 10, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Many think this guy is a great and inspiring speaker… but I have not heard anything inspiring or appealing since day one. Often, his responses on news interviews are choppy and broken responses with ai and ums.
This seems more of himself.. rather than the speeches he memorized. oh please. get real.
Posted by: whatachange | June 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I SMELL HILLARY IN DENVER CONVENTION THIS AUGUST. THE MORE OBAMA SPEAKS ON ECONOMY, NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY, THE MORE HE FALTERS ON THESE SUBJECTS. HE NEEDS TO FIND MORE CHEAT WAYS TO TRICK DNC INTO BELIEVING THAT HE REALLY IS THE ONE THAT WILL TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE.
SUPERDELEGATES CAN STILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS BETWEEN NOW AND DENVER. THE MORE OBAMA PRETENDS HE KNOWS ECONOMY, THE MORE HE FALTERS. THE MORE PEOPLE GET DISGUSTED WITH HIS INCOMPETENCE, THE MORE DNC WILL REALIZE, THEY MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE OF CHOOSING THE WRONG CANDIDATE.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I SMELL HILLARY IN DENVER CONVENTION THIS AUGUST. THE MORE OBAMA SPEAKS ON ECONOMY, NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY, THE MORE HE FALTERS ON THESE SUBJECTS. HE NEEDS TO FIND MORE CHEAT WAYS TO TRICK DNC INTO BELIEVING THAT HE REALLY IS THE ONE THAT WILL TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE.
SUPERDELEGATES CAN STILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS BETWEEN NOW AND DENVER. THE MORE OBAMA PRETENDS HE KNOWS ECONOMY, THE MORE HE FALTERS. THE MORE PEOPLE GET DISGUSTED WITH HIS INCOMPETENCE, THE MORE DNC WILL REALIZE, THEY MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE OF CHOOSING THE WRONG CANDIDATE.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Oh yeah, I’m sorry. I forgot Hillary doesn’t lie, and never did.
Posted by: GetaLife | June 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
This is not new info.
The corrupt (Obama) hiring the corrupt to look for more corrupt. Sounds like business as usual for his campaign.
Senator Obama is a dud.
Posted by: Mary | June 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Obama is fast becoming “The King Of DoubleTalk”. Racist Wright. Terrorist Ayers, Criminal Rezko…… and Obama will make a judgement based on these 2 new questionable characters – one with obvious ties to traitor Marc Rich? I hope people who read this story realize that Obama is not to be trusted.
Posted by: Bill | June 10, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
McCain’s campaign is run by lobbyists working for the oil companies.
The Republican senate keeps telling us to let the oil companies alone and they’ll do the right thing.
It’s been 9 years since the major oil discovery in North Dakota and the oil companies pay the Republicans to say we need to open up Alaska and the Florida coast.
Based on the governments information from 1999, North Dakota has enough oil to meet the US demand for 20 years.
What do we get from McCain and the Republicans? 400% increase in gas prices.
Posted by: Debbie | June 10, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
I SMELL HILLARY IN DENVER CONVENTION THIS AUGUST. THE MORE OBAMA SPEAKS ON ECONOMY, NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY, THE MORE HE FALTERS ON THESE SUBJECTS. HE NEEDS TO FIND MORE CHEAT WAYS TO TRICK DNC INTO BELIEVING THAT HE REALLY IS THE ONE THAT WILL TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE.
SUPERDELEGATES CAN STILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS BETWEEN NOW AND DENVER. THE MORE OBAMA PRETENDS HE KNOWS ECONOMY, THE MORE HE FALTERS. THE MORE PEOPLE GET DISGUSTED WITH HIS INCOMPETENCE, THE MORE DNC WILL REALIZE, THEY MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE OF CHOOSING THE WRONG CANDIDATE.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
neil1785, beleive it or not, you are in the minority.
Posted by: GetaLife | June 10, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Why when I’m reading Obama’s response to a question do I get confused as to the content of it?
Between the uhms, uhs, and more uhms, and the express contradictions between sentences–
Leaves me to believe that Obama really does think Americans are dumb.
To say that someone at the head of his committee does not work for him??
The man talks in lawyerly riddles. Yeah, this is change I can, uhm, uhm, believe in. Right.
Posted by: marisa | June 10, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
LOU, COUNT ME IN. I WILL SIGN UP FOR HILLARY IF FOR NOW THAT’S THE LEAST I CAN DO TO HELP SAVE OUR DEAR COUNTRY FROM MR.DANGER.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
There are many curious clues within Hillary Clinton’s latest speeches that should be pointed oout to her supporters in an attempt to help them understand what she really NEEDS from them.
First, Hillary has continued to make the case the 18,000,000 voters, that “magic number” which constanly underscores the fact that she won the popular vote against Obama.
Second, Hillary DID NOT mention John McCain during her entire concession speech, a very strange fact when you consider that the whole strategy of the Democratic party is based on the fictional contrast between Obama and John McCain, via Bush.
Third, Hillary has made sure to constantly state that she will continue to fight for her supporters and that one day they will actually “Break the highest of all glass ceilings’together, a term that she has continuously used to make the case that she will bevome the first female President. What is her underlying message? What important piece of the overall strategy does her wide range of supporters play into this political stratefy?
There is NO DOUBT that if any of HIllary Clinton supporter wants to see her (or any woman for that matter) become President of the United States within their lifetime, Barack Obama HAS to lose the general election, and by a wide range.
On the practical level, think about this, IF Obama wins in November, it would push her possiblity of running for the Presidency by more than 8 years into the future, since she would not be able to run against him after the first term(even if he was a certified loser) because the Party would simply not allow her to challenge ther incumbent candidate.
By the year 2016, the possiblity of a Republican candidate taking back the White House from the Democrates will be basically guaranteed, even if we only base it in the dynmaics of houw our system tends to work. Thus this sequence of events would basically push her candidacy even further ahead for another 4 to 8 years (this amounts to 16 years into the future). In other words by voting for OBAMA you are LITERALLY barring her election FOR ALL TIME. Based on this measure, her candidacy entirely depends on OBAMA’S defeat.
Posted by: maggie | June 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Is this all they have to attack Obama with?
Someone else said it..must be a slow news day.
~wondering who is heading up McCain’s VP search team…pass the BBQ sauce, please~
Posted by: dcb | June 10, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Lou:
You are either a teenager or too silly to realize I mention that senator Obama can spell “POTATO” as a reference to Dan Qualye…..Do you remember Dan Qualye? Do you recall Bush pronoucing the word NUCLEAR? What about Bush and other idiots saying: Democrat Party, instead of Democratic Party.
My point is this: LAY OFF OBAMA BECAUSE HE SAID “UM” AND WHATEVER….
The man is brilliant!!! Why don’t you and some other dummies out there go to Columbia University and get a law degree from Harvard? Dummies!!! out there…..bunch of idiots…….
So hard for folks to accept the fact that an African American is brilliant…
Bunch of dummies….out there…
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Lou: Thank you for correcting my post. I meant to say I am already a member of Puma Pac.
Thanks for the correction. Typo error on my part.
Posted by: maggie | June 10, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
mikey
highly questionable past???? lol what?
heres a quote from fox news in their article about this
“In its reporting, The Wall Street Journal said it found nothing illegal about the loan terms, and an attorney for Johnson said the loans were in the bounds for those to people with credit backgrounds like Johnson’s.”
soooooo lets make a bigger mountain out of a mole hill
meanwhile in reality
republicans stopped us from taxing big oil so they d.ick cheney could continue to be rich, so bush could continue to gain support and wealth for him and his ties to the saudi royals, and who knows how many lobbyists mccain has that are reaping the rewards
NOT TO MENTION
phil gramm and the whole slew of economic advisors on mccain camp that had their hand in ACTUALLY causing this housing crisis
UBS stated that their employees shoudl refrain from venturing to the US because of possible arrests and prosecutions
LOL
please
vet my home morgage, meanwhile, mccain continues to F us right in the ol poo hole while you peopel cry that obamas some radical terrorist with some crazy hand signal for whatever it is
oh yea vote for mcdole enjoy the economy
oh and while were at it lets talk about how obama is going ot be bad for businesses
LOL
are you kidding me… unless those businesses are the 5% wealthiest businesses taht mccain is tryign to protect
PLEASE you guys are so pathetic its making me vomit
Posted by: bhrandon | June 10, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
and what are McCains policies to move the country forward? can’t think of any?
HE HAS NONE!!!!HE HAS NONE!!!!HE HAS NONE!!!!
but according to what I read here he’s white so he’s all right
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Hillary Not VP Material
Hillary has trouble coming to terms with reality. This is not only evident in the sniper fire clam but also in how she handled losing the bid for President.
If she cannot come to terms with losing a campaign and give timely concession speech to allow the democrat party and nominee move on quickly and capitalize on the moment, thereby acting like a spoiled brat and demonstrating she thinks it is all about her, she would not be fit to take on the roll of Commander in Chief in a crisis. We can not afford that in this day and age of global conflict where there are those who are bent on destroying the United States.
Hillary is a spoiled, brat, poor sport, pouting loser, who rather then gracefully conceding has to put her party and the nominee through as much as possible first. And as VP she would contently be at odds with Barack Obama, also trying to push her self importance above his.
Not the sort of character desirable in a VP.
Some may think it would be a dream ticket, and they are right, but it would be a dream ticket for the Republicans, not the Democrats.
Posted by: Billy Clinton | June 10, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“Well look, the, the, I mean, first of all… It becomes sort of, um, I mean…”
Can you imagine Rookie U.S. Senator Obama negotiating with Hamas, Iran, or Putin?
LOL
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 10, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
SEEMS TO ME THE REAL TRAITORS TO THE JFK DEMOCRATIC PARTY PRINCIPLES ARE THE OLD DIXIE-CRATS AND THE NEW
“BUSH-O-CRATS.”
QUOTE:
I’LL JUST VOTE FOR McCAIN… AND IF YOU SEND ME SOME PREPARATION H, WHY I’LL EVEN KISS UNCLE JOE LIEBERMAN.
UNQUOTE.
UNQUOTE.
Posted by: CHUCK | June 10, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
AMEN! to bhrandon
Posted by: jAY | June 10, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Senator Obama is so brilliant. So is FOOL’S GOLD AND ALSO ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS.
Posted by: Mary | June 10, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
i wish you all would leave sen. clinton
alone now, she is vacationing,resting, and getting ready to go back to her day job, and pay off her campaign debt, with the help of her supporters that can and want to help.
leave her alone-pass the word on to msnbc-(they just cannot leave sen. clinton alone)
let the two candidates who are left to fight it out (boring)
Dumb and dumber 2008
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Not so easy now that Obama cannot blame Hillary.
His illusion of “hope and change” is quickly going to fade into reality–
Obama is just another dirty politician.
He was the perfect choice for the current DNC.
McCain08 Hillary2012
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 10, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
I don’t think this is a big issue in of itself but it is an example as to how tough it can be to be clean or cleaner than the rest.
I believe Obama and think he gave an honest answer but I think the volunteers do expect to be compensated with access on some level–I didn’t say influence but access. Otherwise, I have just maligned some people for doing a very discrete volunteer task and will disappear from the scene once they are done.
I think the question is valid but let’s not get into a position of seeking weak relationships that would say “Washington was not a good choice for General or President because he was a British citizen in the past.”
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | June 10, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
This is important as is the other garbage coming out…it defines Obama’s character…it provides you the voter with the way he really conducts business..it exposes the lies that Obama presents as an image that people believe him to be…it demostrates that he is old politics..he pays back all those political favors defined as old politics he owes and will continue to pay them off..this is his priority not the issues…his rise to power is his priority and hiring lobbist to raise his funds is old politics and then paying them off the favor..comes before the needs of the people …THIS IS OBAMA …power…payoffs and then maybe the issue..check his nuclear stance as a State Sentator…no Obama in 08…
Posted by: dell | June 10, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Soon he will tell us guys that “he had no idea these guys were like this”. He was a fad and now we are stuck with him. Oh well DNC you just screwed the party. Now all of us Hillary supports will go with McCain. You think we will be back………think again. You can not push us to vote for him nor can the media make us vote for Obama. Sorry free country. We will vote for who we want. I want to know what this guy has done to get so many people hooked…. must be the koolaid….
Posted by: Barb | June 10, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
The premise of this story begins with “How could he…?”
In the next few months, this will be typical of the questions which will arise about BHO.
At one time it didn’t matter who the Republicans nominated, because they were bound to lose in November… to Hillary Clinton.
Now the Republicans find themselves saddled with a weak candidate when someone like Romney (or others) could defeat Obama.
For the next five months, Democrats (especially the DNC) will be wondering “What have we done?!”
Posted by: Rhys | June 10, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
dl said it the best. No one is questioning why the vetter got a good rate from the mortgage company. Don’t most people with a good income receive a better rate than poorer people? Yet McCain has lots of oil money behind him and big surprise, he is against a windfall profit tax on the oil companies. Now that is a direct connection to McCain, not a direct connection where Obama’s volunteer got their mortgage. Wake up, poor and middle-class Americans, you are being played by the Repubs once again.
Posted by: Lydia | June 10, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
The Democratic Party has become the Obamacratic Party.
It is too far left for me.
At least, Maverick Republican U.S. Senator John McCain is a moderate.
He is far closer to Mainstream America, than Obama, who spent the last 20 years absorbing the radical left-wing rhetoric of Jeremiah Wright.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | June 10, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
what’s the problem. do any of you really think that any politician is totally honest? Not one! Lesser of the evils. Come back Hillary. Come back….
Posted by: hfds 233 | June 10, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
“This is not the Jim Johnson that I knew…I am shocked, shocked by this…”
Posted by: Tyrone | June 10, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
what else would anyone expect in obama,
he has a very short political resume’
and his handlers and ego have told him to try for the highest postition in the land.
he has no real experience, he has been handled all his political life.
mr. obama is accustomed to and will continue to rely on the kindness of-strangers and anyone else who can help him along.
it is all about barack obama
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
JA:
I’m not brilliant but doesn’t auditing mean that you weren’t smart enough to get in to the program?
By auditing, you have a peripheral relationship to the course so how can you judge his intelligence?
BTW: Please name one US politician currently in office you consider brilliant.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | June 10, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Sen. John McCain presidential campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds just pounced on this, saying “It’s preposterous for Senator Obama to claim that the leader of his VP selection committee isn’t working for him. PREPOSTEROUS is right.
Posted by: hfds 233 | June 10, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
JA:
The initial response to what you said reminds me of a donkey…..Not the democratic symbol…..more like the initials in your name: JA…..get my drift?
Senator Obama is not a case for affirmative action……I don’t care what you said you audited….Are you a case for affirmative action?
Your comments about the senator are nonsensical and stupid….
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
OBAMA’S ECONOMIC STAND, SO FAR…
Obama’s is guilty of preventing drilling, preventing nuclear plants and preventing refinery construction. He and is party caused the circumstances which have prevented energy independence. It is absurd for Obama to look anyplace else but his own backyard for the economy problems and he has no solutions. Check out his website, there is nothing there but raise taxes. This is not a solution but an attempt to blame somebody else. Obama is the problem.
A case in point: As I sit here Michelle Obama is pleading with Americans not to work in “corporate America. She is now working tirelessly off of poor desparate “JOE SCHMOES” working class dime, collected over the internet traveling on the campaign circuit and brainwashing people to make the decision to become teachers, nurses, etc. and NOT to go to work in corporate jobs. This is just another example of the just how “anti-American ” the Obama’s are.
What a hypocrite to renounce working for a profit motive while she collects corporate profits from her corporate banking employers and she and her husband have a combined income that is close to $1,000,000. They surely didn’t get that by teaching high-school.
Not to worry though. The calvary is on it’s way.. Americans should relax , kick back and stake all of their hopes on “the Great Black Hope” , Barack, coming to the rescue with mortgage bail-outs and govt. hand-outs, sent from heaven above including free college which, according to obama, is everyone’s birthright. I strongly believe obama is dreaming of a UTOPIA or FANTASYLAND.
Posted by: neil1785 | June 10, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Prerequisite for all would be politicians: Speech 101
Posted by: Val | June 10, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
“um, I mean, this is not the person I knew.” I am tried of hearing these same of words from Obama. What do Obama know…. nothing? It is at the point that I change the channel whenever he starts speaking. Obama remind me of Bush. You just do not want to listen or look at him.
Posted by: Willie | June 10, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I have a feeling Mr. Johnson will find himself under the bus. He will have plenty of company. Soon Obama will need a VERY large bus to accommodate all those he has thrown under it.
Posted by: kris | June 10, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
USMarine0331:
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that about senator Obama. Did you get the word from the Joint Chiefs concerning military personnel staying out of this? Or you just simply forgot, right?
Even a fool if he keeps his mouth shut is considered wise……Proverbs
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Well look…Obama said.” the,the,I mean-first of all I am not vetting my VP search committee for their mortgages, so you’re going to have to direct…..
direct,,,TO GO UNDER THE BUS…soon!
He meant : It’s none of my business?
I’m busy looking for my VP.
Pls let me finish my waffle first.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
maggie,
i am all ready there, withdrew from dnc.
gave money directly to sen. clinton’ campaign, not buy products advertised on msnbc,nbc, or cnn.
sent the letter to dean, a few days ago.
thanks,
if not doing it check out boycotting sponsors on msnbc, during olberman, matthews, andrea mitchell’s time.
and morning joe, just because of meka
the women on tv news programs do not understand that
an injustice and diminishing in public of woman
is an injustice and diminishing in public of women everywhere.
andrea mitchell, peggy noonan, meka,and all of the new women journalist who seem not to know what sen. clinton and women like her have done for them.
impeach bush.
leave sen. clinton alone
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
US Marine- you could not be more right. (meant to say correct) I totally agree.
Posted by: hfds 233 | June 10, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Neil1785
the drilling…won’t effect us or supply for 20 years
the nuclear power plants and refineries…I am sure you will be happy to have them right in your back yard…
it’s not that simple…
not to mention the lasting effects…as we continue to throw the planet under the bus.
simple simple simple that’s how we voted in 2000 and 2004…
self-centered, right of center… and ultimately off-center.
simple simple simple is stupid stupid stupid
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama clearly has a judgement problem.
Over and over he does this-with his church, pastors, Ayers, Rezko and now this.
And the scary thing is Obama thinks it’s no big deal until the media starts questioning him…then he stutters and stumbles to defend himself.
It’s either a very stupid decision or an arrogant one–thinking he is above any criticism.
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 10, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
kris,
i think you are (w)right.
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama is an idiot and perhaps the most unqualified man ever selected as a nominee. Hopefully democrats will come around and elect HRC as the nominee at the convention, so we can have a real leader who is brilliant on the economy and who will get us out of Iraq.
McCain should adopt HRC’s UHC plan…he’d win over HRC supporters so easily if he did that.
Posted by: seattlegonz | June 10, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Jim Johnson, the disciplined, discreet and obsessively meticulous vice presidential vetter for Barack Obama, is a stalwart of the Washington establishment.
____________________________________
Obama and the INSIDERS….a movie coming to a theater near you.
Posted by: HP Boston | Jun 10, 2008 12:04:50 PM
Posted by: HP Boston | June 10, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Why do we expect Obama to vet people around him? The media outlets or the DNC party never vetted him.
Posted by: Willie | June 10, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
For those making fun of McCain’s gaffe with beer/bill. Are you aware of some of Obama’s gaffes? He has visited 57 states. He thinks Arkansas borders Kentucky and but Illinois does not. Florida is the Sunrise state. He saw dead people at his Memorial Day address. Ten thousand people were killed in a tornado in Kansas. Spanish is the main language of Brazil. He didn’t know about Hanford but he has voted on bills related to it. There are many more.
Posted by: pjh | June 10, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States, and all you rich and powerful Republicans can take that to the bank. Oh, that’s right, you won’t be going to the bank quite so often, will you? The rich and powerful had their chance to let their wealth ‘trickle down’ to the middle class and poor but decided against doing that, so the American people are going to do that for you. Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
Posted by: ed | June 10, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Of course this is just ONE more of the many examples of Obama two-stepping his way around every problem that surfaces with him. There are MANY more. He never has a real explaination for anything. It is always, a mistake or an excuse or his favorite cover-up of all, Oh it’s just politics, he thinks THAT statement fixes everything.
Obama = Speech Maker not President
McCain 08!!
Posted by: Vickie | June 10, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Hopefully people are starting to realize that the Democratic party says what they think the public wants to hear to get elected and then does as it pleases. Um, Change, dont elect McCain, thats just 4 more years of Bush, we will give hand outs to everybody and socialize the health care system(dont mention you will have to wait weeks if not months to see a specialist, unless your Ted Kennedy of course)…Change, McCain is 4 more years of Bush etc., etc. Its such BS and people are buying into it. Saying your going to Change things and actually doing it are two different things, isn’t that how the Democrats took over congress and the senate? has anything “CHANGED”?
Posted by: Curt | June 10, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
You guys, stop working yourself up. Republicans are playing havoc with you Obama and Hillary supporters. You are going to be divided in the general election if you all continue to be this volatile in your thinking.
Posted by: Sam | June 10, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
People say MCCain talks stuttering but I see Obama does too.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Who cares? This is a non-issue.
Posted by: indy_voter | June 10, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I am glad Hillary suspends your campaign so the media outlets can put more attention on Obama. Now, Obama cannot push the focus on Hillary whenever he says some things that worry and shows is lack of experience.
Posted by: Sally | June 10, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Been to Iraq yet NObama?? No?? Then just shut up!
Posted by: MJ | June 10, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Correction:
I am glad Hillary suspends her campaign so the media outlets can put more attention on Obama. Now, Obama cannot push the focus on Hillary whenever he says some things that worry and shows is lack of experience.
Posted by: Sally | June 10, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Who is the jerk who told the marine to keep his opinion to himself. If anyone has earned the right to speak out it’s a member of the military.
Posted by: v racer | June 10, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Sam…
At least you provide some variety to criticism of Obama’s critics. Usually, we are told if we criticize ANYTHING about Obama it makes us a racist. But according to you, we MIGHT just be undercover Republicans! That’s a relief!
Posted by: Rhys | June 10, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
GeeCee – I could care less about how a man speaks or how eloquent they are (i.e Bill Clinton – who won over the public for his gift of gab) .. you might feel like you’re listening to a higher power when he reads off the teleprompter BUT most of us prefer the ability to actually lead! He’s nowhere close to that!
Posted by: MJ | June 10, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
and you all have seen obama’s numbers in the polls are still growing…
and most now have the odds at 2 to 1
he wins.
because when America wants to be she can be very smart.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
McCain is right on the issues??? I don’t think so.
Take his alleged strong suit, national security, for example. Invading Iraq was a tactical blunder. Keeping our troops there at great cost, and without any realistic prospect of achieving any lasting tangible strategic benefit, is inexcusable. Devoting the bulk of our limited military resources to Iraq to nation build, instead of sending enough troops to Afghanistan to finally get the job done on bin Laden, Mullah Omar and the supposedly untouchable al Qaida safe haven in western Pakistan, borders on criminal negligence.
McCain’s continuing failure to even acknowledge, much less promise to correct, these glaring Bush administration strategic blunders, proves he lacks even rudimentary judgment.
Perhaps worst of all, was McCain’s refusal to support Sen Webb’s GI Bill amendment giving enlisted folks real educational assistance after “only” one enlistment term. He opposed this because he felt too many troops would go to college instead of reenlisting. McCain apparently doesn’t believe constantly enduring varying forms of hardship, occasionally including violent death, for only one hitch, is sufficient consideration for providing a soldier a real shot at college.
McCain is not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | June 10, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
dl
what polls are you reading, you have to look at swing states with polls , not gimme states, and the swing states are all within 5 pts of deviation from eachother. with the majority giving Mc Cain the upper hand.
Posted by: DW | June 10, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
If you support Obama, I don’t think you’re stupid, or anything else insulting.
But, please be sure it’s YOUR decision, not the so-called “choice” dictated by Howard Dean and his shadowy bunch.
Posted by: Rhys | June 10, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Why don’t we see such fillers in his speeches? But in every interview and debates he gets more fillers then essense. But his speeches are no less crowd cheering then his pastor. Is it possible that his pastor wrote all these speeches where he was named the master orator? was it the reason he did not want to distance with him, unless pastor chose him to do that? Ponder…
Posted by: Namrep | June 10, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
um I think everyone is getting off topic here , isnt this blog about Obama and his crafty evil partners, not about McCain. You Obama people all you do is redirect , redirect, is that what Obama pays you guys to do?
Posted by: DW | June 10, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
It is clear that Sen Obama meant that Jim Johnson and the others arent “going to be working” in his administration when their task is over. Read the full statements that follow.
Posted by: ZM | June 10, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Senator Obama is as crooked and two-faced as they come.
How muh more evidence do you need?
How much more has to come out about this guy — how many more stumbles and bumbles and nefarious associations before Super Delegates pull the plug?
Posted by: Annagain | June 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Excellent job, Jake, This is what professional journalism is all about.
Keep asking the questions Americans need to hear.
Posted by: Misty Cooper | June 10, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Obama is the new Jimmy Carter.
Obama wants the genocide of millions of Iraqi religious factions by making a pre-mature withdrawal from Iraq.
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
WHY IS NO ONE HERE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE NEXT ARTICLE ON McCAIN VETTERS?
WILLFUL BLIND IGNORANCE DEVALUES YOUR OPINIONS!!
Posted by: next | June 10, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Rhys,
I agree about the his script speech.
But…about Howard Dean, I have a feeling he is actually not really against Hillary but he has no power to stop Pelosi and the gangs actions.
We can see, he is not even in the VP search team, only Reid and Pelosi and others, even Caroline gets incharge not Mr Dean.
Isn’t it ironic?
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Without a script fed to him via a TelePrompTer, Obama sounds and looks like an idiot.
Every question directed toward Obama is “games” or “distractions”. The guy is a big fraud.
No record. No experience. Poor Judgement.
Obama/Carter ’08
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | June 10, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Obama states the vetters don’t work for him – well then who are they working for? Jim Johnson also helped pick VP’s for Kerry and Mondale and both of them LOST. Maybe Johnson is secretly working for the Republicans. And nobody mentions Caroline Kennedy. What are her qualifications anyway? Other than having the last name Kennedy. The worst part of Obama’s denial is his stuttering and stumbling over his words, sounding more and more like George Bush III.
Posted by: Marla30 | June 10, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
the..umm…the…umm…you know…look…i mean…ummm….the…the…ummm…I haven’t no idea that’s what going on…umm…they don’t work for me…umm…it’s not like they speak for me…umm…you know…i’ll make a speech tomorrow…so umm..don’t ask me anymore questions…just wait for my speech…ummm…that issues is not relevant to the high gas prices so don’t ask anymore…THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!
Posted by: hannah | June 10, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Now thats more change we can believe in. His list of associates is just such a refreshing difference.
Posted by: jim | June 10, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Somebody help me understand … is it just me? Why is this guy praised to high heaven for his “soaring, gifted oratory skills” when he’s reading from a script to a rock concert size audience but so utterly terrible when he has to talk like a normal person. In debates and interviews, he’s just horrible … all the “um … uh … you know … I mean … look” … It’s painful!!
Posted by: JDinCA | June 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
First off, hats off to Jake Tapper for actually reporting damaging news on both candidates – there was a time when he wouldn’t even say a bad word about Obama but dissed Clinton relentlessly.
Secondly, the surprising thing here is that Obama leads McCain ONLY by about 2% in most polls (which is statistically insignificant). The Dems should have walloped any Republican this year given the legacy of Bush II.
Thirdly, yes Obama is dishonestly trying to equate McCain and Bush. I think the general public knows better. We remember what happened 8 years ago during the Republican primary, and know that McCain is about as close to a Democrat as you can get without actually being one. And it also speaks volumes that an independent and former democrat, Lieberman, is supporting McCain (and being harassed on the Senate floor by Obama for doing so). Also interesting to note that Michael Bloomberg, an independent and former Republican and Dem, is also positive on McCain.
McCain is certainly no Bush, and I expect this Obama strategy to backfire as we get to know more of McCain.
Lastly, if Obama wants to save his reputation he better start taking responsibility for his lapses in judgment. FIRE these two VP vetters and replace them. Don’t give us lame excuses. Don’t give us blatant lies – that they don’t work for you. And just man up and admit no one is perfect, not even you the Almighty Messiah brought to us from the Heavens to give us world peace, equality, and prosperity.
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
John Doe:
Here’s the problem- Obama ran on his superior JUDGMENT and we continually see he has NONE. You never got to see his policies because he CAN’T talk about them intelligently. See the town hall videos from VA last week. The man’s a joke.
Posted by: Brad | June 10, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Whether McCain wins or Obama wins, the citizens of our country LOSE either way.
Posted by: Marla30 | June 10, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Obviously you don’t know what REAL is. Even Dean recognizes Hillary won the popular vote. The sanctions were against delegates not votes so sorry to dampen your enthusiasm but you do not speak the truth.
Posted by: Rico | June 10, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Get real- So let me get this straight, the great unifier cant unite his own party and that is Senator Clinton’s fault? 18 million democrats voted against him because he is an empty suit and that is Senator Clinton’s fault? The floods in Wisconsin must be her fault to. Stop setting up a scape goat for your guys November crash.
Posted by: Jim | June 10, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Obama 08. Obama will wallup McCain. People always getting hung up on the small stuff. So some guy gathering information for him made a loan with aparently a misfit company called Countrywide. What’s that got to do with the price of tea in China?
Posted by: Scotti | June 10, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
So why was no attention paid to the fact that Mark Penn – who was paid $10 million by Clinton – also represented Blackwater and Colombia with regard to NAFTA (as did Bill Clinton)? The bottom line is most people involved in D.C. are interrelated and conduct business the same – which is the point of Obama’s campaign. If any of these guys did something illegal then go after them. But that should be across the aboard (starting with McCain’s involvement in the Keating S&L scandal. . . ) – I mean McCain is running for President!
Posted by: C. Perkins | June 10, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
So why was no attention paid to the fact that Mark Penn – who was paid $10 million by Clinton – also represented Blackwater and Colombia with regard to NAFTA (as did Bill Clinton)? The bottom line is most people involved in D.C. are interrelated and conduct business the same – which is the point of Obama’s campaign. If any of these guys did something illegal then go after them. But that should be across the aboard (starting with McCain’s involvement in the Keating S&L scandal. . . ) – I mean McCain is running for President!
Posted by: C. Perkins | June 10, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
The newest tactic from the Obama camp…
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Not a tactic from the camp, just a mirror image of the behavior displayed by Hillary’s supporters.
Posted by: Get Real | June 10, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
It seems as if Obama’s intelligence
is inversely proportional to his
distance from a teleprompter.
Posted by: interferon | June 10, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Sounds like a big ado about nothing – just an excuse to sling mud. No, a temporary volunteer is NOT the same as someone he picks to work for him in his administration. I wouldn’t consider a temporary volunteer to be someone “working for me” if I had one. And what did this guy do? Got out a “questionable loan” from a bank now known for giving out questionable loans. (It would help if some details were given – this is all pretty vague!) Certainly not material for a cabinet position, but for some campaign volunteer temporarily taking on a particular task having nothing to do with finances – so what?
Posted by: Lynne | June 10, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Why are people still talking about Hillary this and Hillary that? Hillary has suspended her campaign and thrown her support to Obama. Whatever happens she’ll get taken care of. Let’s move on and make a change in this country already. Let’s quit getting hung up on Hillary who most of us only know because she’s the wife of Bill. Her ideas weren’t all that great or even realistic. She was saying a lot of things that people like to hear instead of being realistic. That’s why I didn’t vote for her. Nice lady but Obama’s ideas are much much better. Obama 08
Posted by: Scotti | June 10, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Much ado about nothing is exactly right. They’re looking for the gum under the desk. Like anybody cares that piece of gum so and so got a loan with a company that turns out has problems. Not even sure that it’s so and so’s fault that the company has problems. What’s the connection and what’s it got to do with anything relevant? They don’t care about so and so’s loans with a bank that went bad. They care about blindsiding Obama to get a remark they can use on the news not unlike the paparazzi do. They did that to Bill all the time too. It’s paparazi muck raking at its worst.
Posted by: Scotti | June 10, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Obama has a problem with tough questions. He is going to fold under the pressure. There are no teleprompters at press conferences. There are also none in the Oval Office, and for the good of this country, hopefully he won’t get that far.
Posted by: Michelle | June 10, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
A big who cares – Just a typical GOP distraction from the real issues at hand. Likke why are the Repubs allowing oil companies to rake in record profits, more than any other time in history, while we all go broke at the pump? That’s a bigger story today – if the Repubs care so much about the middle-class American people then why are the vetoing bills to tax the oil companies and bills to help people stay in their homes. They didn’t mind bailing out Bear Stearns, but when it comes to the actual people on Main Street, we are screwed by Repubs and have been for the past 8 years. Now THAT is an issue!
Posted by: Beth | June 10, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
And Obama is presidential material? My God – he can’t give a response without a speech writer or a teleprompter or having someone else figuring out the answer for him. And he wants to meet with heads of state to sit and chat? HAHAHA! What else can you expect from someone who doesn’t have a clue what he might get himself into.
Posted by: Jaye | June 10, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Shalom,
You have just displayed your total ignorance of the Carter administration. This was perhaps one of the most disastrous presidencies in recent US political history, and destroyed the Dem party for over a decade.
And now the nutjob wants to talk to terrorist organizations directly.
Indeed Shalom, I am sure the Republicans would welcome your association of Carter and Obama.
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
obama is now mis talking,
we want him to win now he has won nomination. But i think many errors will come it has started from double talk to hwish lobby group to those working for him are not his workers, haba BHO
Posted by: LOUIS ANUSIONWU | June 10, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
He is sounding more like G.W Bush everyday on his speech.
No coherent answer that you can follow.
Um Well O.K. Um Well Let me be clear everybody. Um Well O.k.
Pathetic if this is what we are looking at for next POTUS.
Posted by: Sandy | June 10, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
all i can say to the update.
is right on mccain.
Posted by: andjustice for all | June 10, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
And Who’s Vetting McCain’s Veeps? A Former Lobbyist, Natch
Posted by: Beth | June 10, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
My favorite Obama word is “look”. He says it over and over again. Look at what? He cannot express himself. He portends that he is brilliant man. Brilliant men to not speak the way he does. He is in above his head but he just doesn’t know it yet. Dumb or dumber…which is he?
Posted by: Jaye | June 10, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
What do you think that Obama is going to bring to Washington…..Chicago Politics………oh boy can’t wait.
Where have all the Obama supporters gone?????
Posted by: Barb | June 10, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Hillary speaks for me: You are correct. One of my friends told me that he does not expect anything from Obama while he is in office. Puzzle….
Posted by: Willie | June 10, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
–RuthieM—Just because you blog it doesn’t make it so. You are so right about that but you are so wrong about the electibility and qualifications of Senator Obama. Suggest you do comphrensive research before blogging again.
Obama is an empty suit and the people he associates with are not the best or most honest people. I don’t think he even has a chance at winning in November. Americans are just now getting to know the guy.
Posted by: Maggie | June 10, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Well nothing new here on Obama, there will be plenty of this denial and scattered thinking in the future. I
‘m a HRC supporter and I think the situation is playing out nicely. Hillary is having a much deserved rest from all the unwarrented negative media coverage and Obama is not basking in the sunlight of a presumptive nominee,but more like a rabbit caught in the headlights of the media and the GOP. I don’t think he has enough substance to survive.
When it all blows over Hillary can become the real nominee and ultimately the next president. A brilliant ending to a sorry mess.
Posted by: mary | June 10, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
You people have all forgotten the new rule:
Anything that calls into question anything at all that Obama or any of his associates has ever done, said, or thought, is just a “game” that is played by people who practice politics as usual. It is just a “distraction” from the real issues (like for example calling into question whether McCains advisors are lobbyists).
Posted by: Chris NY, NY | June 10, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I bet we see that on a bumper sticker soon!! LOL
Posted by: not fooled 08 | June 10, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
JA:
Yeah, yeah, yeah…..Some folks have said negative things about the Clinton Administration too……silly..
If Carter did not have a bunch of folks on the other side of the isle undermining him so much, then perhaps his administration would have received an applause from you, bud…..
As I’ve said: Carter is not bad company to be linked to……Both Carter and Obama have nice smiles….
And you should be happy about that….
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Carter vs Reagan:
Carter did pave the way by his bold stance against the Soviet Union….
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
great!!!
that’s what I’m talking about…..And for those who will say negative things about the great senator Obama…..I will respond..
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
How is it possible this is the man the DNC wants to run our government.
There is no way that I would ever vote for him, but I get just a little more disgusted and discouraged everyday.
This is who our “leaders” selected?
What is up with this whole thing? It stinks to high heaven, and why are no ivestigative reporters, investigating or reporting????
I um, he um, not mine….
PLEASE
Posted by: drae | June 10, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Look, this guy Obama is not a very smart person. I don’t care what everyone else is saying about how intelligent he is. He’s not. Obama has a long history of hanging out with unintelligent political type people and really not doing anything except talking about how change is needed. The guy smokes cigarettes, that should tell you how much intelligence he’s got.
Posted by: David | June 10, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Questioner; Correction: Good bumper sticker ‘Country Before Party”
Posted by: Willie | June 10, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Questioner:
I have a question: What!!!????
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Mr Coffee,
You are uninformed. I had full access to the lecturer (Barack Obama), and I was a UC Law student. The reason why I audited it is because it was a fluff course, on race and politics/law, not part of the core curriculum.
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Mr Coffee,
Oh, and I consider Bloomberg to be brilliant. Perhaps not a great motivational speaker, but very practical and intelligent – a realist.
If he ran for president I would have voted for him.
Posted by: JA | June 10, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
A non-issue! A rich man gets favorable loan deals that any other rich person would get as well. How does that constitute “questionable loans.” I wish reporters had more sense than they are demonstrating in this election cycle. How about doing some work for a change and do some investigating? I’m sick of this gotcha about nothing reporting.
Posted by: cfoster | June 10, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
JA:
You must know little about Jimmy Carter……Jimmy Carter is a nobel person….
Stop speaking against dignataries like that…..Senator Obama and Carter are noble men who love this country and are serving exceptionally well….
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
BHO is a leftist liberal product of corrupt Chicago politics who hypocritically preaches all kinds of platitudes for others but in his public life has failed to demonstrate with his own actions. What happened to his “Old Uncle Wright”- dumped! – His church of 20 years – dumped! A real steady guy. He will do and say whatever it takes to get the prize. The history of his political rise in Chicago is ugly. His record in the Illinois legislature and later in the US Senate contains absolutely nothing but a record of doing what is politically expedient. BHO is a product of “Old Line Politics”. :”Change”:- into what? . Judge a man by his actions not his words
Posted by: chicguy | June 10, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
JA:
Amazing……You actually said something positive about the Clinton Administration…
Amazing….I’m beginning to figure you out now. You are a Democrat who supported Hillary Clinton….
And now you are so upset that she lost, until you’re considering voting for John McCain..
Please go get some counseling…
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Jeremy:
do you really think folks wanna read that book you posted?
Short expressions, bud,…..short ones.
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
As we speak, Obama has got to be under a great deal of pressure to put Hillary on the ticket. I bet he can’t wait to get out of this one.The Republicans are not going to help lunch Hillary in, they know that could be disaterous for them. The Republicans are waiting for him to pick his VP or for convention. Watch when this happens,it will be like “Who let the dogs out” I’m going to bet he will nip this Hillary stuff in the bud and pick his VP before August.
Posted by: Toby | June 10, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Well as an Obama supporter I think that it would be great to have a vetting team that did not need vetting themselves… however I also think these people are not running for office or holding office and they are going to perform an information gathering task and present that to Senator Obama. Since Graham from McCain’s camp is at the top of the mortgage crisis debacle cleary benefiting from the deregulation that caused it… I can see why the McCain camp wants to try to diminish that by using this association but its just too minimal.
Posted by: lb | June 10, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Obama is making a lot of rookie mistakes.
I am worried.
Obama only leads McCain by 2 points in Massachusetts.
Please. Please. Hillary supporters. We. Need. You.
Posted by: shalom | June 10, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Unbelievable! Do they have no shame, and to think they call us racist. I think I know where racism is alive and well. Sad state.
Posted by: Toby | June 10, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I hope Hillary IS taking a long well deserved vacation.
She has truly earned it, struggling against the broken DNC, the media “black out”, and that pesky mosque-ito at her back!
Her followers will follow her in everything except voting for a candidate who daily gives more reason NOT to vote for him..
It would be great if , as LeeLee07 says, Hillary COULD rise again.. She was definitely the most prepared of the
candidates.
BUT, if not:
The DNC is Broken.
FIX IT!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!
Posted by: QUESTIONER | June 10, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Whether McCain wins or Obama wins, the citizens of our country LOSE either way.
Posted by: Marla30 | Jun 10, 2008 2:38:57 PM
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Couldn’t agree with you more, Marla30.
As for McCain and his lobbyist connections: OMG! A politician with lobbyist connections? Never heard of that before! At least McCain is a known entity.
Posted by: None of the Above 08 | June 10, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Um,um…um, look I agree with Hillary on,um,um,.. you all know she conceded!..um,oh no,…um,um,um she suspended,um,um, my teleprompter is malfunctioning…um, no more questions!…um thats all I’ve, um, um, have to say.
Posted by: evie | June 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
The Veep vetters are not working for him in the same way the lobbyists who are advising Senator Obama are not making donations to his campaign.
Posted by: LCSusan | June 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
It’s August in Denver. Obama limps into town disgraced, dispirited and on the verge of divorce only to find Hilary there waiting…tanned, rested and ready. This nomination is far from over. The trick will be how to let down millions of Black supporters who’d as soon ride this candidacy into a mountain side as back off.
Posted by: Mason Jahr | June 10, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
“Well, you know, like it’s uh great to be here in uh Washington, ah, oh this …January day, with um, uh Michelle, my belle, And so, I say to Americans and the world that, like you know, uh, um, what I mean is that uh (sotto voce-what happened to the goddamn teleprompter) like what uh, you know, I pledge hope and I pledge change, and you know the end of right wing wars and, you know, capitalist oil prices and crusades against Muslims and, you know um…”
We can hardly wait.
Posted by: Terry Gain | June 10, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States, and all you rich and powerful Republicans can take that to the bank. Oh, that’s right, you won’t be going to the bank quite so often, will you? The rich and powerful had their chance to let their wealth ‘trickle down’ to the middle class and poor but decided against doing that, so the American people are going to do that for you. Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
Posted by: ed | Jun 10, 2008 1:58:04 PM
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Um, how is this not fearmongering? I thought Obama and his zombies were all above that.
Clearly you have no clue how economics works. And not all Republicans are rich. Just as not all Democrats are elites.
Posted by: None of the Above 08 | June 10, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
OH JUST SHUT UP – Fcae the facts you stupid Hillary supporters…she didn’t win!! Ha Ha. Now your stuck with the choice of an old white man and a young black man. It’s time to quit your whining and get with one or the other. Just stop your complaining…she didn’t have a chance from the beginning. Finally we have stopped the BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH/CLINTON monarchy. Thank God.
Posted by: harry vest | June 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Kevin,
You actually believe that taxing companies more makes them pay? They make the same profit and shift the cost margin to consumers. You people that believe this stuff apparently do not understand economics… unless it is Soviet Economics- even they had “economists”.
Posted by: BubbaG | June 10, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
It is difficult to tell with Obama whether his declared non-issues are issues or not. We have the fellow he talked to once in a great while, Tony Rezko, and just the guy who lives in his neighborhood.. William Ayers.
So it may indeed be nothing, but I am more concerned about how Obama handled “nothing”. If he does this well with “nothing”..what is he going to do when it is “something”?
I trust this man to assist in picking a VP candidate, but that doesn’t mean he works for me or even know him really. I actually just met him a few days ago on the street corner that I sometimes pass by on my bicycle.
Posted by: Linda C. | June 10, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
maggie,
As far as Obama- two words to explain his education:
Affirmative Action
Posted by: BubbaG | June 10, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Least we forget, Obama is related to Cheney. How perfect.
I’ll take the old, experienced guy over the foolish, inexperienced 1/2 term senator any day, thanks.
No need to bring race/age into this, there are plenty of white kids and old black people to go around.
McCain will be our next president. It was ours to lose and lose we will. Enjoy your Obama moment.
Posted by: Tyger | June 10, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Why does Obama want his VP to be vetted. Obama hasn’t been vetted and he would have the #1 spot. He is a pompous idiot!!!
Posted by: carolyn | June 10, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Ohhh here comes some breaking news for ya, Obama is not eligible to be president of the USA!!!! They said he was born in Hawaii, when in fact they have no birth certificate, but Mobassa, Kenya does have a birth certificate for one Barack Obama, born in 1961 on the exact day this Barack Obama was born, that makes him ineligible to be President of the USA!!! You have to be born on US Soil to be eligible to be a US President, Obama’s resignation will be coming soon.. WATCH FOR THIS STORY COMING SOON TO ALL NETWORKS!!!!
Posted by: Jr | June 10, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Who is Johnson working for if not Obama? I don’t get this. Obama has said that this decision is THE most important decision before becoming president. It amazes me that some people are blowing this off as unimportant. OBAMA said the vetting process was important. So if OBAMA thinks it is imortant, shouldn’t he have people who he trusts vetting the candidates? To say that Johnson’s trustworthiness is not relevant because he is just “doing an assignment”….huh? Come again?
It is so hypocritical. Dean just got done sending out a notice that lobbyists were not allowed to donate to DNC anymore – but the team that vetts the VP CAN be. The VP is almost more important than the President, folks. This guy or gal will be in the Congress and breaks ties… The legislative power is in the VP and the VP has it in with the Pres.
PS: to the person hoping Obama’s birth location could make him exempt. His mother was American. It does not matter where he was born. (McCain was born outside the US – I think his parents were military?) Anyway… I don’t think location matters so long as at birth he or she is born American.
Posted by: Hands up in exasperation - independent | June 10, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
I’m a loyal Hillary supporter who will probably vote for Obama as I could never be upset enough to vote Republican and get more of what we’ve had the past eight years. If he chooses Hillary as his running mate it’s a sure win for him. There may be a few of her supporters voting for McCain, but not enough for him to win. I hope Obama is wise enough not to be influenced by The White Male Sexist Club of Politicians that did everything in their power to ensure a woman did not win the nomination. I really think she could be a great asset to his campaign and his Presidency (he WILL be President if he chooses her). If she would be willing to be VP her supporters will not let her down.
Posted by: womanpower88 | June 10, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
When are Americans going to realize that you’re all fighting with each, by design of the Greed, so that the Greed can take everything from you? It is Divide and Conquer strategy, the same one the U.S. govt used to commit genocide against the natives of this continent. If any of you were smart, you’d stop fighting each other, and start fighting the Greed. Because it’s destroying all of you. Liberal or Conservative, you’re all losing, as long as you keep fighting each other. You’ve been manipulated, and conned.
Posted by: Lindy | June 10, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
cindy in nc:
You hit the nail on the head!
Due to his thin resume and lack of
experience Obama has chosen to run
on his “judgement”!
Well even if you concede him his position on the Iraq War, his
judgement is poor to say the least!
McCain is the only rational and sane choice in November!
Posted by: reaganfan | June 10, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Can’t wait for all the change and hope to start…
Posted by: KURT | June 10, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Obama only leads McCain by 2 points in Massachusetts.
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Obama is up by 13 in Mass.
Stick to reliable pollsters..Rasmussen, Gallup, CNN
Posted by: chris | June 11, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
This is just one reason why Hillary should have been our nominee!
Posted by: Karen Lowe | June 11, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
OK lets see McCain’s advisers have a history of using their connections to the senator to win lucrative contracts, raising questions about the independence of their work now. McCain, similarly, has pushed for positions that have benefited his advisers’ past and current clients. Some examples of the lobbyist ties of McCain’s senior staff: So lets see who needs vetting
– Rick Davis, Campaign Manager: Between 2002 and 2005, Verizon paid Davis $640,000 to lobby on its behalf. Davis signed Verizon up as a client in 2001, just a year after he managed McCain’s first presidential campaign. McCain served as Senate Commerce Committee chairman for most of that time. Verizon and Davis terminated their contract after 2005, when McCain gave up the chairmanship. [Senate Lobbying Database; USA Today, 3/23/08]
– Christian Ferry, Deputy Campaign Manager: Ferry “partnered with Davis in representing SBC and Verizon from 2003 to 2005.” [USA Today, 3/23/08]
– David Crane, Senior Policy Adviser: Crane is a lobbyist and president of Quadripoint Strategies and “served as a senior policy advisor” to McCain on the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. “He previously worked as a lobbyist and senior vice president for Global USA and The Washington Group. His clients have included Bank of America, the Financial Services Roundtable, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.” [Media Matters, 2/26/08]
– John Green, Congressional Liaison: Green is co-founder and managing director of Ogilvy Government Relations, one of Washington’s most powerful lobbying firms. Recently, McCain pushed the Pentagon to open the bidding process for new Air Force tankers to EADS — a European company — “a move loudly objected to…by numerous members of Congress.” Green received $1,080,000 to lobby for EADS, although he is now on a “leave of absence” from Ogilvy. [AP, 3/11/08]
– Thomas Loeffler, Campaign Co-Chairman: Loeffler is founder, chairman, and senior partner at the Loeffler Group. While serving as McCain’s national finance chairman, Loeffler also lobbied for EADS in the Air Force deal. [AP, 3/11/08]
Posted by: AB | June 11, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
When Sen. John McCain addressed the nation’s burgeoning mortgage mess this year, he insisted it was time for a little “straight talk.”
“I will not play election-year politics with the housing crisis,” the GOP presidential hopeful insisted while unveiling his plan, which many have since described as friendlier to the mortgage industry than the Democrats’ proposals.
OK here is some straight talk —-who is vetting MCSAME and his kick back lobbying team.
What McCain did not say – which some believe smacks of politics – is that two of his top advisers were recently lobbyists for a notorious lender in the mortgage meltdown.
John Green, the senator’s chief liaison to Congress, and Wayne Berman, his national finance co-chairman, billed more than $720,000 in lobbying fees from 2005 through last year to Ameriquest Mortgage through their lobbying firm, disclosure forms reviewed by the Daily News show.
Ameriquest, which since has been bought out, was forced to settle suits with 49 states for $325 million. More than 13,680 New York homeowners got taken for a ride by the company, records show.
“They would be defined as the most blatant and aggressive predatory lenders out of everybody,” said Bruce Marks, head of the nonprofit Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America.
SO there
so lets see who needs vetting
Posted by: Nigel | June 11, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Without Hillary to point a finger at, Obama does look pretty stupid doesn’t he?
Strickland and Boren refused to kiss his ring today. Just the beginning of a 5 month reality session that is going to end in his defeat.
Posted by: HH | June 11, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
–Lindy— I agree with you. Americans have been manipulated and conned by Senator Obama, his campaign, his supporters and the DNC. Obama has ruined the Democratic Party with his far right politics and his disrespect for the white middle/working class. His idea of HOPE is for voters to believe him and his bogus promises and CHANGE is his intent to put radical socialist policies in place. He has no real solutions to the problems facing our country other than more empty words.
Posted by: Mary | June 11, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
jpt writes:
“Did I read that correctly? Did Obama claim that Johnson and Holder — two of the three people heading up his VP search committee — aren’t “work”ing for him?
I suppose that’s because they’re unpaid, but my stars, that’s a lot of high-level, time-consuming sensitive effort to not be considered “working” for Sen. Obama.”
“Sensitive” effort? Yeah, right: “sensitive”.
Read all about it (from Reuters Canada):
“Obama shrugs off attacks on head of VP search”
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080610/us/politics_usa_politics_johnson_dc
Posted by: Belle Starr | June 11, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
The hipocracy never ends.
Posted by: NotSoros | June 11, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
I have lately been quite disappointed in Obama.
I suppose I wanted him to be “different” and not “just another politician” who taps into the the Democratic power establishment without regard to the person’s ethical record.
I have supported Obama and understand that he may feel he needs to play the game like everyone else. But this one supporter did not vote for him for that reason or donate to him to be like everyone else.
Posted by: jed | June 11, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Well – Maybe obama would not have to Vet the Vetters – IF the DNC had of VETTED OBama!
Posted by: Molly | June 11, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Stammer, stammer, stammer… how many times did he say “you know?” I counted 6 times in the one response to the question. Don’t they teach you in Introduction to Speach” that you don’t use “you know” or “ummm” or any other space saver. Just pause, decide what you want to say, then say it. And he’s “The Great Orator?”
Posted by: Namako OH3 | June 11, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am
…though in his defense, doesn’t half of the homeowners in America have a mortgage with Countrywide?? [SMILE]
Posted by: Namako OH3 | June 11, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am
Obama is the anti-Christ spoken of in the New Testament of the bible. He certainly fits all the criteria, including fooling the fools.
Posted by: Mandy | June 11, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am
Barak Obama makes Bush sound like Daniel Webster! I mean, um, you know, er, what I’m saying, huh?
Posted by: Mandy | June 11, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am
How have we nominated such weak, egotistical and ignorant people to lead this great country…both are nothing more than crony politicians with no record of any achievements. How did the 3 candidates become millionaires when these Professional Politicians can’t even run a decent campaign and have never in their lives produced anything of value nor had to work for a real paycheck. None of these candidates could succeed outside of being on the Government Dole and that goes double for the crooked millionaire Public Servants like the Clintons.
Posted by: Moultrie | June 11, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
When put on the spot he just can’t deliver , he stammers just a little too much for my taste. He’s great at reading speeches but during any debate he just can’t get it together and just doesn’t sound convincing.
Posted by: angel | June 11, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
The entire 2 party system is BROKEN. Stop perpetuating it. Voters should take DEMs to the cleaners in 2008 like they did to GOP in 2006. Here’s the list of corrupt DEMs – Jim McGrevey – Former NJ GOV, Elliott Spitzer – former NY Gov, Acevado – Puerto Rico Gov, Kilpatrick – Det Mayor, Jefferson – LA congressamn, Blagojevich – IL Gov. Obama should be proud. Where’s all the media reports claiming a Culture of Corruption in Democrativ Party? Hmmm? Seems like we had endless stories in 2006 when it was GOP turn. The media is truly disgraceful. VOTE NADER.
Posted by: Dean O, Wash DC | June 11, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
The fact that the media has made this big of a deal over where his vetters got their mortgages from is a little disconcerting to me…But i forgot, they are in the tank for him…
Posted by: joe bob | June 11, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Yeah, so what were you all expecting? I think too many were believing the headlines that Obama was a different sort of politician. Give me a break! Those that believe that have never looked into his Chicago politics as usual background. Chicago politics are the most corrupt in the nation by far. The Chicago political machine is deeply flawed to put it mildly and deeply ingrained. Chicago politics make Zimbabwean politics look tame and honest. There are those that believe Obama isn’t tainted with special interest money. Wrong again! It only the manner that Obama takes money that is different. He takes his money from the wives and family members of those that are labeled as special interest people. So I guess that means he isn’t taking special interest money. Yeah, right! Special interests are also helping by rounding up their contributors and packaging it as individual donor contributions what would have been called special interest money in past elections. This is a farce!
Posted by: thku4grace | June 11, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Yeah, so what were you all expecting? I think too many were believing the headlines that Obama was a different sort of politician. Give me a break! Those that believe that have never looked into his Chicago politics as usual background. Chicago politics are the most corrupt in the nation by far. The Chicago political machine is deeply flawed to put it mildly and deeply ingrained. Chicago politics make Zimbabwean politics look tame and honest. There are those that believe Obama isn’t tainted with special interest money. Wrong again! It only the manner that Obama takes money that is different. He takes his money from the wives and family members of those that are labeled as special interest people. So I guess that means he isn’t taking special interest money. Yeah, right! Special interests are also helping by rounding up their contributors and packaging it as individual donor contributions what would have been called special interest money in past elections. This is a farce!
Posted by: thku4grace | June 11, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Thank you for covering this, Jake Tapper. Obama and his dirty cronies are hypocrites.
I hear a giant bus rumbling down the road.
Posted by: Juju | June 11, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Is anyone surprised that Obama, the media darling during the primaries, is any different that the typical politician? Just about anyone with a brain knows that despite the rhetoric, all politicians are “connected” in one way or another to lobbyists and other insiders. It’s the “old boys” club…and these people are more about looking out for themselves than the more important issues of the nation. Hey Obama…can you have your boy Johnson hook me up with one of those mortgage deals? The savings would help me offset rising fuel and energy costs.
Posted by: C. J. | June 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Whats preposterous is Tucker Bounds also saying that John McCains “Its not important when the troops leave Iraq” didn’t mean that John McCain doesn’t think thats its important when the troops leave Iraq. And by the way, whos vetting Sen McCains staff of Lobbyists these days? Tucker “out of ” Bounds?
Posted by: dmmathis | June 11, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
I think you people want to make name for your self
there are so many important things to talk about or write
you should think how we can move front
stop stabing people.
they work as a volunteer which any body can do
it is the man at the top to make conclution
The man who make the econonic to be in shamble today what we will you say to him
Mr clean
we should think how we can move on
if we look into your history Mr clean when you start or befor you start.
Are economic is in problem
lets think as one , to support him .
The people who write bad about people,
if they ask to do the job they can not do notting
Tell them keep quate
Posted by: BEN | June 11, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
All who supported Hillary and also donated to the DNC, ask for your money back, they have to give it back to you within a certain window of time. Get it back and donate it to Hillary.
Posted by: obamasbeenlyin | June 11, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
jr: You are exactly right. Obama’s mother was denied passage on the plane to Hawaii and Obama was born in Kenya. She came later to register him in Hawaii and I don’t know if she did, but he was registered in Kenya. A commentor tracked it down and it was on the internet about two months ago that’s how I found out.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 12, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Anne: Right you are. And some of those speeches he made are from RFK’s book of speeches given to him to study. His close friend Richard had to give him his speech so he would know what to say on the platform. Someone said he was a Law Professor. Is that in title only? I understand he was a salesman at one time and learned how to sell himself to the public. I can’t believe the people of this country can be so fooled by him.
I am voting McCain because a vote for McCain makes lesser votes for Obama.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 12, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
thku4grace: You are right about the Chicago politics. I was born and raised in Chicago on the near west side where many residents had city jobs. And some didn’t go to work everyday. Daley’s father knew how to run this city better than his son. But politics in Chicago is different now and Obama is connected to the Daley machine. If elected Chicago will get whatever they ask for. Remember, Daley endorsed Obama. When you walk into city hall many of the workers are busy with coffee or on the phone with a personal call. However, I am voting for McCain and the more of Hillary’s voters that do the better and the less for Obama.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 12, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
You all should be ashamed of yourselves. This is a non-story about nothing. And if it is a story, let’s please put the same sort of petty klieg light gotcha machine on everyone of McCain’s employees.
Oh yeah and ever heard of the S&L scandal.
Posted by: eddie | June 12, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Who is vetting John McCain’s folks?
Posted by: Vernon | June 12, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Obama fix your situation about the V.P. vetting team. Pick Hillary ASAP so she can start helping you raise money and campaign hard against McCain nationally.
Obama will face a difficult ugly election against the G.O.P. elite. If elected, Obama will need experienced advisors that advise him, due to his great lack of national and international experience. Considering how screwed up the nation is under the Bush administration, economically, war on two fronts, Iran threat, terrible international relations, energy crisis, private contractors stealing from the government, etc. It is apparent Hillary Clinton whom is now the most popular national female leader in the country with 18 million voters, can campaign stronger nationally than any other potential V.P. Hillary is a tough experienced leader able to help Obama avoid the pitfalls of Washington during his first term. The Clinton’s can provide needed presidential experience unlike any other single state governor or senator. Half the Democratic Party voted they like Hillary. What other V.P. could get 18 million votes campaigning alone?
It is Obama’s turn to unite the Democratic Party and win over Hillary’s supporter’s and then make Hillary the V.P. to support Obama in fixing our country’s major problems.
Posted by: Edabel | June 13, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
For the person who thinks this is a non-story about nothing — if you believe that two of the three people looking for his V.P. pick AREN’T working for him — then what do you believe is a story?
Honestly, how much nonsense has to come out of Senator Obama’s mouth before someone finally admits that the emperor has no clothes? This man is like the Democratic George Bush.
Whenever he is caught in a lie, or one of his nefarious associations is exposed, his answer is: I didn’t know.
Are you kidding me? This man has no record to speak of — he is running on speeches that someone else wrote for him and the fact that he has great judgment — what great judgment? The great judgment that kept him in that church for twenty years?
Either he believes that stuff or he was just there for political street cred — neither scenario is a positive one.
He did deals with Tony Rezko — he didn’t know? More good judgment.
Now Johnson?
He may also be having a problem with Holder?
What great judgment?
Posted by: Annagain | June 13, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
First of all, thanks, Jake and Sunlen, for providing the exact quotes of Obama addressing the problem. It is so ironic that this man, whose speechifying in 2004 I and many others found so riveting, cannot, in fact, speak well extemporaneously.
Second, for the person who just posted that Obama should pick Hillary as VP: Senator Clinton should stay as far away from this empty suit conman as she possibly can. Obama is political kryptonite. Gov. Strickland was very wise to vehemently state he has absolutely and unequivocally NO INTEREST in being Barack’s VP.
I actually think BO’s campaign is supposedly keeping their options open for choosing her, just so people think that his candidacy might eventually have SOME value by adding her to it. She will surely refuse any such offer. If Obama’s campaign had any guts, they’d just state now that they aren’t going to offer it, or make the offer and have it refused. But fake, future “hopey-changey” promises are all they have.
Bring back the actual, qualified, dignified, America-LOVING candidate, Senator Hillary Clinton! She will bring our country back to where it belongs!
Posted by: Alex01 | June 14, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am