Ohio Guv Won’t Run with Obama
ABC News’ Teddy Davis and John Santucci Report: Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland (D) was Shermanesque on Tuesday in saying that he would "absolutely not" be Sen. Barack Obama’s, D-Ill., running mate even if asked to join the Democratic ticket.
Asked on NPR’s "All Things Considered" if he is auditioning to be Obama’s running mate, Strickland said, "Absolutely not. If drafted I will not run, nominated I will not accept and if elected I will not serve.
So, I don’t know how more crystal clear I can be."
Strickland was seen by some political handicappers as an attractive vice presidential pick for Obama because he is a popular chief executive and former House member who hails from Ohio, the state which decided the 2004 election.
Strickland was also a high-profile backer of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., which would have allowed Obama to present his selection as a play towards party unity.
Last year, Strickland made a Shermanesque disavowal of interest in being Clinton’s running mate.
Though Strickland will not be on the ticket, the Obama campaign is recruiting Strickland adviser Aaron Pickrell — who steered Clinton’s successful primary effort in the state — to run Obama’s Ohio campaign in the fall.
When questioned by NPR’s Michele Norris if his statement was the kind of insincere disavowal of interest offered by other VP hopefuls, Strickland contrasted his own flat denial of interest with what he has heard from other VP prospects.
"No, I don’t think they all say that," said Strickland. "I’ve heard people say, ‘you know, if I was asked, it would certainly be something I would have to consider."
Despite his Shermanesque dismissal of being Obama’s No. 2, the former minister and prison psychologist said he is committed to seeing Obama elected president.
When asked to rank the degree of difficulty of Obama carrying Ohio, Strickland says: “I would say somewhere around 5 in a scale of 1 to 10. I think it’s, I just think it’s a challenge because of the nature of our state.”
The audio of the entire interview will be available at approximately 7:00 pm ET at www.NPR.org
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Posted by: geevill | June 10, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
You must be confused with McCain.
Posted by: patriot | June 10, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
The news just released Obama is considering former top Military leaders among his possible running mates.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
bOY THE WALLS ARE CAVING IN ON OBAMA. IF HE DOESN’T CARRY STRICKLAND’S STATE, HE IS OUT!!!
Posted by: maggie | June 10, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Maybe because he is a prison psychologist.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Maggie, Geevil,
You are right.
What if Ed Rendell also doesn’t want to join him? That make it worst.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
If Obama tries to pick former top Military officer as his VP to make up his weakness on national security and foriegn policies, he may have more persons to consider to make up his inexperience on economy, healthcare or social security…
Americans will wonder: who will be real CIC to lead this country and what is Obama good at??
Posted by: True Truth | June 10, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Ed Rendell already said he does not want to be Obama’s VP.
Posted by: Destini | June 10, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Both McCain and Obama are unconventional candidates. Don’t expect the electoral map to run the same way as in the past. Ownership of Ohio or Florida may not be the clinching factor this year like in the past.
Posted by: sublingo | June 10, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
WASHINGTON — U.S. Rep. Dan Boren, D-Okla., said Tuesday he will not endorse Barack Obama for president.
“I still remain very concerned about the (Obama) voting record being the most liberal of the United States Senate,” said
The internal poling must be coming in.
Posted by: geevill | June 10, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Destini,
Thanks.
Oh,,boy,,oh,,boy,,,he has to work very hard..LOL!!
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Why would Obama want him? He’s not even on the shortlist!
OBAMA/WEBB ’08 & ’12
Posted by: Roxie | June 10, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Obama will have trouble holding Michigan and PA. You think Iowa and Colorado will offset that?
Posted by: geevill | June 10, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Actually…Ed Rendell only said that he would advise Obama against it. He stated he wouldn’t turn it down. Strickland is just from a very conservative state and has to get re-elected. It’s that simple. However, he’s going to work his hardest to get him elected, he just doesn’t want to tick off his constitutents in doing so.
Posted by: Chris | June 10, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
maybe obama does not want him so to make himself look good he has to say he dont want it
Posted by: angie | June 10, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
True truth,
I agree.
I feel like it’s a little bit unusual.
I hope MCCain would find a VP is good in economy strategy.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
i live in pa and my vote and alot others will be going for obama!!!
Posted by: angie | June 10, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Obama has a list of 20 names. What he just needs is only one person. Even if 15 of them will not accept the offer, he will still get one from the remaining 5!
Posted by: Peace | June 10, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Dems could play safe this year by traditional strategy since economy is favoring Dems..
However, Dems will face more risk because Obama has made it more complicated on his race issue and inexperience on national security and economy…
No one knows whether the enough turn-out by his AA brothers and young votesr will put him over the top…
Posted by: True Truth | June 10, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
You all aren’t looking at the numbers…the real numbers…Obama’s lead is still increasing and the Hillary factor hasn’t even really started wearing off yet.
The bookies have himat 2 to 1…and with all the individual numbers of dem to repuub turn out matched with the fact that Obama’s numbers in some of these states in the primary alone were more than the entire repub turn out when they had all their players still in play…
this will be a joke.
Strickland is afraid of the fall out from Hillary. Lots o promises made in that there camp. Lots o turn about favors done by the Clintons.
wouldn’t want that wrath on me if that is where I laid all my eggs.
so don’t fool your selves. None of Hillary’s lackies will say they would take the job until it was offered…beheadings would abound if they did and they didn’t get it.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I don’t blame him, his state voted for Hillary Clinton and he is representing the voters unlike Bill Judas Richardson
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | June 10, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
There will be alot of higher ups who are not willing to be in the #2 spot. Due to lack of intelligence they would rather be racist and judge Obama by the color of his skin and not by the context of his character. As a matter of fact through out the entire campaign there has been some form of discrimination (race, gender, age, religion, etc.) People be wise, if you go Republican our children will be in the war and we will not be able to afford a darn thing. A vote for Obama in 2008 is much closer to our parents who may at one point been considered low-medium class.
Obama 08 Yes WE Can!! and that’s Change We all can believe in.
Posted by: hottie1 | June 10, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Obama could take Ohio, but still lose if he can’t get new Mexico. The big problem is payback by Michigan Clinton supporters. It is easy to see MI, OH, and PA going to McCain. There is your blowout.
Posted by: geevill | June 10, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Strickland has been saying for years that he has NO DESIRE to be VP. The idea was floated 4 years ago as VP for Kerry and he said No. Strickland is 67 years old. He is too old to be VP.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
geevill
Obama is leading McCain in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Have you taken a look at the polls lately? He was leading even before securing the DEM nomination.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Obama will pick Clinton as his VP. Go ahead and bet it. It’s the only LOGICAL choice.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Oh God, I love Ed Rendell….I hope he does not accept any VP offer if given one.
I don’t think some big Dems are going to vote BO just because he was brokered for them. Geraldine Ferraro said she doesn’t know if she can vote for him, just as Michelle Obama said early on she didnn’t know if she could vote Hillary. SOUNDS LIKE SOME REAL PROBLEMS IN THE DEM PARTY. IN ALL MY 50 YEARS DON’T REMEMBER THIS MUCH DIVISION…NEVER HEARD ANY KERRY SUPPORTERS SAY THEY WOULD JUMP TO BUSH.
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Debra | June 10, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
A true Democratic leader. A true patriot!
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | June 10, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
and geevil those numbers are similar to just after Bill Clinton won the primary…with the same amount of defections saying they will leave…and in the end they didn’t.
Now think about this year compared to 1992…
you think people are going to take McCain who sucks at the economy…as he is proving slowly this week more than anyone probably expected and he wants to keep throwing tons of dough toward Iraq…and watch Afghanistan and Pakistan sink into a worse situation…and not have countries feel we deserve a second chance because in their minds we chose Bush III
yeah… the fact that Obama has already gained more than Bill, Gore and the rest did after they secured the nom…means even more so it has a good chance of being a landslide.
but spin away.
These guys are just afraid they will upset the only candidate off that they signed allegiance to.
You think you want to run with no support come re-election they are all still afraid of the Clintons… sad.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
That’s what I like a man that let you know where he is. Obama WATCH this man. And have other watch him.
Posted by: Zion Il | June 10, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
True truth,
You are right.
The pundits have changed their prediction now, everyday they worry about him to get all those big states like MI,FL,WV ,, even NJ..
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Polls are useless at this early stage of the game….a total expolsive tape of something could change the course as last as October…..so I don’t ever look at polls (although I heard Obama should have a double digit lead from the bump he should have got from Hillary supporters).
I’m one of the 18 million cracks in her glass ceiling WHO WILL NEVER VOTE BO.
IF NOT HILLARY, THEN McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Debra | June 10, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Hooray for him!!! I would not even want to be associated with Obama!! Maybe he could get some of his “friends” to run with him.
Posted by: virginia | June 10, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
and geevil all your poll numbers are off…
and it is not just the bookies…the pollsters have numbers similar to the 2 to 1 chances it will be Obama.
He doesn’t need Strickland and Strickland knows it. and just like the other two unless they are offered it they better not say they would like it. Can you imagine how Bill and Hill would take them down if they did?
especially if they aren’t offered.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Farrakhan paid for Obama’s start in politics.
Posted by: kevin | June 10, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
the primary votes tell the true story
Posted by: geevill | June 10, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Debra,
Good comment.
I like Ed Rendell also. I like Evan Bay too.
Hopefully they all follow Gov Strickland
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Yet another elected Democrat who questions the DNC choice that they have attempted to shove down our throats.
What he’s really saying to all you stupid Obama supporters is: He’d rather be Governor of Ohio than a VP nominee when Obama’s ship sinks – maybe sooner than November too.
Posted by: s.valenti | June 10, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I did not cite any polls. That is the electoral college projection off real clear politics. I think they are correct McCain will hold the South. The map shows Obama winning.I don’t see him getting Ohio. and PA -the Jewish vote will make it hard for him.
Posted by: geevill | June 10, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Hillary doesn’t want the VP spot…Obama needs to lose on his own and she can run again in ’12. Why should she turn over her 18 million voters (and delegates) to him…he limped to the finish line,losing 9 out of 14 primaries and the super dels had to push him over….disgusting that popular vote does nothing in Dem party. I bet their are party big wigs who won’t even be voting for him in Nov.
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
COUNTRY FIRST – PARTY/PROMISES SECOND.
Posted by: Debra | June 10, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Wise man, that Strickland.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | June 10, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Thank you, Gov. Strickland. It shows you have the courage of your convictions.
Posted by: JayM | June 10, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Its really quite pathetic how those from the right continue to label anyone on the left as an America hater. They can’t seem to understand that being able to see our own faults makes us a better people, not haters. Being a patriot doesn’t mean blindly believing that simply having USA stamped on the side of something makes it inherently better, or good. Like any country, there are good people and bad people living here. We have to be vigilant, or we risk letting our country tip towards the side of darkness.
Posted by: Paul | June 10, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
ROE V. WADE WILL NEVER BE OVERTURNED. DRAFT WILL NOT BE RE-INSTATED.
WHEN ARE OBAMABOTS GOING TO STOP FEAR MONGERING. WE CANNOT TURN BACK TIME TO 1968 OR 1974!
MAYBE YOU ALL THINK WE’RE GOING TO REINSTATE PROHIBITION TOO.
GEEZE.
Posted by: Debra | June 10, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
geevil
primary numbers mean nothing when you look at them against another dem.
they just don’t… but it seems you keep having a problem seeing the real math.
It’s like having a taste test between two types of cookies…
Now you are going to introduce the winner of that taste test into another taste test with a biscuit.
It is a different taste test.
and guess what the judges have only been allowed to eat biscuits for 8 years.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
John McCain spent 5 years in chains listening to anti-American propaganda and paid a dear price.
Barack Obama spent 20 years in a church pew listening to anti-American propaganda and gladly paid for the privilege.
Posted by: JayM | June 10, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Kevin,
Maybe Barrywright is right.
I think ,at the beginning of the race, he would pick mr Wright as his VP because his pastor play big roll to him to run the race but since he has to dismiss him, that’s all changed.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
No, OH will be McCain’s. Ohioans already told obama where to go. Strickland reinforces that view. He is not welcome here.
Posted by: Jenny | June 10, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
For all the haters, it might interest you to know that Gov Ted Strickland is campaigning with Obama on Friday in Ohio. So take that for what it’s worth.
Posted by: Kevin | June 10, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Oh wow – bookies are giving odds for obama’s vp and outcome?
Yeah, sure I’ll just vote on who my bookie tells me to vote huh?
Obama cult followers are using everything to make him look good – smoking is perfectly ok with them, lying is great with them, cheating is even better, but the best of course, is the race baiting and bigotry he sends out. Take a look at other websites besides MSNBC (who is so in bed with obama that they refuse to even print anything negative about him – they just ingnore it. Wait until we start ignoring MSNBC and they have no ratings) and you will find that there are not too many people who really think the golden Boy is that great. You know, make yourself so above everyone and everything that pretty soon people just see you for the phony you are and they are now starting to see this bag of wind.
Hooray for John McCain – you go!
Posted by: CalifLady36 | June 10, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I’m from Ohio and just sent Ted a note of thanks! PUMA! democrats for McCain! Let the grass roots begin!
Posted by: jeep395 | June 10, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
and JayM
You are wrong about them being able to overturn it already… look at all their statements since being put in office.
one more federalist…anti-choice and yes it will probably be overturned.
I am not doing that as fear mongering…it is the TRUTH…duh.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I cannot wait for November when the Democratic party gets what it has coming. And I’ll have the added joy of knowing that somewhere Oprah is crying into her champagne, too.
Posted by: Cardsgal | June 10, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
CalifLady
but there are a lot of people who think Obama is great…but I guess you would have to read a paper or turn on your tvv to see that.
oh and it’s not just bookies that have obama 2 to 1…check out some of our biggest pollsters.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
“Smart cookie.”
geevill, I always enjoy reading your posts. Like you, I can never bring myself to Obama’s camp. He will certainly fail to get 270 EV’s although I’m not sure about the margin.
Posted by: mark | June 10, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Mark
Geevils numbers are wrong.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
DL
you wont be able to avoid gettign Clinton on the ticket… even after Obama is the “presumptive” nominee he will not get an easier time now becuse he always had it easy and you wont winm regardless
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
That is NOT good for Obama, though it would be GREAT if he would agree to campaign for Obama.
Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | June 10, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
CalifLady
The losers of primaries have done this election after election.
They set up an angry “our candidate didn’t win” group and we are going together people not to vote…
Hey maybe you will convince people to vote out of their spite…but most Americans are going to vote for the economy, judges, the soldiers, our standing in the world getting better rather than worse (because that is exactly what a vote for McCain does…that is not spin go read a paper)…
our standing in the world affects everything now…and that is the difference between Obama’s majority in people under 60 who understand this new global village…and those who don’t.
so Nah…the “spite” groups never work.
because people wake up from spiteful anger most of the time.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Ask yourself
Are you better off now then 8 yrs ago? If so, vote McCain
If not vote Obama
It’s that simple
Posted by: Question | June 10, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
read some info about history and primaries…Bill Clinton had similar “defection” numbers because of people who wanted their candidate…
you are not new…
you just are not self aware enough to know Obama already is showing a faster recovery then Bill C did…
go look up those numbers.
because adults don’t vote on spite or one candidate……they vote on issues.
and as far as fainting in my candidates presence…I am not the one who would drag my country down and my party and the issues all in the name of one person.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Hot in from Disneyland..Mickey Mouse just said he would not run with Obama or McCain. He said he is much too busy in his own Disneyland to compete with pros. Good lord give me a break. How many more nut jobs are the media going to interview to hype this raise!! Nice try folks!!
Posted by: Mikey Mouse said NO | June 10, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Gee he thinks he is BETTER them the rest of the bunch…Good no one wanted him anyway ,just his name was there does NOT mean he would have even been asked.
Posted by: Independent | June 10, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Maybe to much garbage to hide ???????
Posted by: me | June 10, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Dem 38
I don’t need to stand down. …well anymore than people putting up vitriol and false info on here.
I am just one of the voices that still bothers to make sure facts are interspursed with this bologne …
and if you don’t get global village and it’s effect on us…and the “don’t buy american” idea…we don’t get out of Iraq without that…we don’t continue to compete the more people look down on us… we don’t resolcve issues…we don’t get intelligence from foreign nationals for our security…
we don’t …well you don’t think that is real anyway… glad there are only a few of you.
that would explain a lot about your comments.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Obama/Webb is a good ticket but the VP list is long, with very qualified people. Most of America realizes what the republicans (there are a few left but they are voting Obama) are doing to this country. Ofcourse some Hillary supporters won’t support Obama but that is simply because of his race, which is sad because these are the same people that cry prejudice and say Hillary didn’t win because she was a woman. Wake up America!
Posted by: solar | June 10, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
I like that guy, absolutely not vote for Obama.
I will absolutely not vote for Obama either.
SDs will switch their endorsement soon, as Obama’s face is clearer.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | June 10, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Wow, what an opportunity for sabotage. Carry on.
Posted by: Harvey Shepperd | June 10, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
I think all the Hillary supporters should go to some of the events I have just been at over the past few weeks… mostly Hillary supporters and under 5 maybe have sounded like any of those on here.
Most Hillary supporters are stalwart issue fighters… and really grat Americans… and I can tell you some fo you on here …they would take you down for being so …well spiteful…and not caring about the issues enough to put them ahead of some woman who ran.
Posted by: dl | June 10, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Dem38,
Thanks a lot for your back up.
I have to admit that my english is not perfect because english is not my mother tounge, I speak 4 languages.
But,,I love to be American and grateful to live here.
Posted by: catleya | June 10, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Obama is about the future and a chance for us to be more successful. It’s about time we had a politician who believes in listening to everybody.
Posted by: citizenvoter | June 10, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Anyone who says that the polls are meaningless at this point is fooling themselves. Isn’t this the “historic” candidate? You think the polling doesn’t favor him now? Wait until states get a second look at Mr. uh uh uh … he doesn’t get any better.
Posted by: beebop | June 10, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I grew up in Ohio. Having said that, let me say this, No way in hell will Obama carry Ohio. Let me say this too. As Ohio goes, so goes the nation. Historical fact.
Posted by: Texas Lil | June 10, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
How do you tell weakness or strength in national security?
Posted by: TK | June 10, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Tim, you are adorable!!! LOL!
Posted by: Chris W. | June 10, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Boy, is this post ever filled with BITTER HILLARY CLINTON supporters. Get over yourselves. Hillary lost, fair and square, and Obama will blow McCain out of the water in a landslide victory in November. COUNT ON IT!
Posted by: greg | June 10, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Bottom line….There are no jobs in Ohio. I should know…I live in Ohio! Ohio is not a landslide for McCain. NAFTA is a HUGE deal in this state. Strickland is talking out of both sides of his face. Everything he ran on to get elected is in line with what Obama is and has been saying. He went against his own principles when he endorsed Clinton. Gas is $4 a gallon, GM just announced it is terminating 20K more jobs in this state, and McCain’s plan to help us is to keep the big business tax cuts in place…..McCain has an uphill climb in this state!
Posted by: Monica | June 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Chris: Strickland refused the VP because he was a high profile backer of Hillary Clinton and what he said he meant and I was delighted to hear that. I don’t think Rendell will take the job either. Rendell was a backer of Hillary also. Obama is looking for someone that knows ten times more than he so they can teach him what he doesn’t know. And believe me he doesn’t know a lot. For a graduate of Harvard he certainly didn’t have the brains to pick the right associates.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | June 10, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
It’s amazing how many pundits try to compare this to other elections…I repeat this has been a unique primary…..the Democratic Party is completely divided…of every 10 new registrations 4 voted for Hillary….not for the party….I believe that 25 to 35% of Hillary voters will not vote for Obama!
PUMA :)
Posted by: Jackie | June 10, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Poor thing. Nobody wants to be with him.
Posted by: brigitte | June 10, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Mariann,
Please. If you knew anything about how either of these campaigns work, you’d know that Obama’s more involved in writing his own speeches than any candidate this year besides Huckabee. Sure, he’s not a great debater, but that’s because he’s too analytical, he was a law professor remember.
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Maggie, Geevil,
You are right.
What if Ed Rendell also doesn’t want to join him? That make it worst.————–
Rendell said on CNN the other night that he doesn’t like taking orders from others. He said he wouldn’t take it.
Posted by: J | June 10, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
I don’t understand some of the comments here. The two men who said they would turn it down if asked may very well be doing so because they don’t want the job. They may not want the total invasion of their privacy as well as their family’s.
As for these angry ‘supposedly’ Hillary fans who would rather see McCain in than a Democrat with similar stands on many issues to Hillary, I don’t believe they are actually Dems. I know many people who were fans of Hillary and none of them talk about wanting a Repub in just to spite Obama. They were disappointed Hillary didn’t win but they aren’t about to throw away their Democratic values over it. It is laughable these Repubs expect any true Dem to change teams when joining the opposition means more wars, less personal rights for women and absolutely no meaningful help for the economy or the struggling middle and poor class. And just forget about having the health care mess or energy problems solved, too. Sheesh, Dems care about the future for us all a lot more than holding a grudge.
Posted by: Lydia | June 10, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Some here don’t want to see what’s really behind Strickland’s and Rendell’s statements. They are simply saying “Obama, please choose Hillary”. That’s all. Why is it that some of the people posting comments here can’t see that. It’s crystal clear.
Posted by: GOP_gone_for_a_long_long_time | June 10, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I am cracking up at putting Sebelius on the ticket.
Hillary Clinton champions womens causes for years. She then runs for president as a woman, gets bashed down and all her woman supporters are furious at the sexism.
Obama then tries to ‘appease’ them by sticking Sebelius on the ticket?
Now this woman who sat on the sidelines gets to have a easy spot to make history while Hillary loses out ?
I can guarantee you the women supporters will FREAK OUT and vote against Obama in even higher numbers.
Posted by: tomdavie | June 10, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Mariann pepitone
you are right and all Obama disciples are wrogn about everything … they dont like to be called that but it will stick through the election and will hurt Obama.. they are novices and out of touch because they dont know much!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Just Words, you’re right, Hillary did prove the polls wrong in Indiana as she was leading there by 6-10 points the day before the election.
And it seems the McCain voters will be the one’s in panic when they realize McCain has to give an hour long speech in front of a convention floor. Wow, I can’t wait for that one, imagine, a room filled with 100 people trying to cheer on his forced smile…
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
lani
Obama managed to change the rules and bylaws of the party in the middle of the contest after he saw he wasnt going to be contested in the caucuses… he originally thought he would win the popular vote and hillary the delegates so any way you slice it you still have a problem and we will call you on it all the way to the convention and beyond!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
J-M
Im no republican but just because you are a core Obama person doesnt mean that just you alone will outnumber the people at the republican convention… quit trying to pile on people after you have won… its a mark of a person who doesnt know how to fight and win… just sortof fell into it!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Dem38, you prove how silly you are…notice how Hillary gave up the ‘winning the popular vote’ talk after her big loss in Montana? Because she did lose the popular vote, even including FL and PR and EXCLUDING Iowa, Washington, Nebraska etc…if you still hold on to counting every vote in your popular vote count then please include the 10% of states that you’re currently excluding.
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
LANI-He WON the popular vote (no supers),
Check your “facts” because HE DID NOT win the popular vote! If you are counting to the DUPLICATE 25,000 votes that were found in North Carolina (and I am sure there are plenty more fraudulent votes cast) for Obitter, if only the REAL journalists would return from vacation from Oblahmaland, then we would not have this mess to begin with.
Hillary/McCain 08′
Posted by: Just Words | June 10, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
A very wise men not to run on a loosing ticket. I hope Senator Clinton is smart enough not to run as VP with Senator Obama too. The Dems are so smart when they loose this election by a landside they will think we choose the wrong Senator to put over the top.
Posted by: Bill | June 10, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
And Dem38, as a former Republican myself, I can tell you that John McCain doesn’t excite me to jump back into the Republican party. As far as piling on, uh, what, just because I complain that a man can’t give a speech? Last time I checked, that’s an important need for a president to sway the congress, the country, and the world…Reagan, Kennedy, King, they didn’t sway people by their ‘voting records.’
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
I find it funny the Obama people say we don’t need this one or that one. Who will be left to vote for this empty suit?
Posted by: J | June 10, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Just words
oh thats not just mere heresay about NC… I know I worked on the campaign for hillary and based on our push polls she was ahead in the people we calle! I heard some leaders of black churches come on the air the day after the may 6th primary and say that they took plain yellow buses that didnt have a name on them but were church buses and got african americans off the street to vote for Obama that clearly didnt intend to vote… that is what happened and it cant be refuted!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Mariann, again, I’ll give you the notion that HRC would’ve had a better chance at FL and probably OH (certainly WV, KY, AR). Obama does much better in CO, NM, WA, OR, VA, NC, IA, MN, etc…
Just two different battle fields. And, again, just because you lose states in primaries doesn’t mean you will the general. I.E., NY, CA, and MA are still going to vote Dem big time. Also notice that he’s well ahead in PA. Hillary was a great candidate and much of the party liked BOTH candidates. She is/was the party, almost like an incumbant. She also had an historic campaign of her own. So a lot of people voting for her really like her, just as many really like Obama and many dislike both.
I can see people not voting for Obama that didn’t vote for Hillary. But, for those people to vote McCain frightens me. His foreign policy stances are even more hawkish than Bush, he’s completely anti-woman’s rights, and he admits he knows nothing about economics. So, if you like Hillary’s plan then I’d say don’t vote or vote nader, but a vote for McCain puts Hillary’s ideals back another two decades.
And finally, yes, he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He taught there as a lecturer for 12 years, while he was also a State Senator.
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
mariann
they refused even to acknowledge that after the FL and Mi delegations were reistated the number shouldve ben 2110 but the evil geniues liek Donna brazille gave DNC members like herself a full vote and gave noemal convention delegates a half vote… thats not fair
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
J-M
the bottom line is … Obama will not win the GE based on the Iraq war stance alone… it wont happen!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
just words
exactly
the delegates are all in flux till august… David Borens son who is a rep from PK refused to support Obama even though Hillary is letting her pledged delegates chose to go with him… he has a very very big problem… you will not be handed this election
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Dem38: What about the Iraq War stance? More 60% of the country now favors bringing troops home during 2009, rating it more important than ‘winning in Iraq’ as if that means anything.
Even southern states like GA, the majority say that, check out Rasmussen.
Sure, I can see him losing in certain scenarios, but not on the Iraq war.
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
marianne pepitone
yea I agree I see Obama has a large constituency in the GE of people wanting to legalize those drugs… how quaint! that kinda stuff is not mainstream and should be laughed out of the convention committees!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Dem38:
Agreed, neither candidate will win on one issue, and most of them will depend on how they’re played, for example, Iraq could go to McCain as you say if it’s ‘better’ but it could also be spun, if it’s better, than why not remove the troops?
The economy will be the biggest issue, who comes across as helping the middle class (most people don’t care about the media’s stupid rantings over taxing Capital Gains). Who can change the energy policy, or create one I should say.
It won’t be a battle won over Rev. Wright or John McCain’s age…the economy’s too much a mess for that. So, John McCain has to prove that his policies are such a change that they can fix many of the situations were stuck in. I think that’s the true test. Fair or not, if he seems too much of a continuance people will either stay home or vote for the opposite (Obama) even though they find him potentially ‘too liberal.’
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Posted by: Mr. Coffee |
He said on CNN that he won’t take it. He said he doesn’t like taking orders from people. I like Rendell our good ‘ol Gov. here in PA. He speaks his mind
Posted by: J | June 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Mariann Pepitone
most of the time when a party decides on a nominee they do rally around the one candidate but with all the questions surrounding Obamas nomination and the popular vote/edelegate counts it doesnt feel right and I say that as a democrat that has enthusaistically supported candidates that were more image than substance before…NOT THIS TIME!
Posted by: dem38 | June 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Hey folks, if you click on the box sponsored by Monroe in the upper right hand corner, you see the typical McCain supporter’s day.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | June 10, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
J,
I know. I don’t agree with either of their policies. So, it’s my choice to pick who’s I think is better at the moment…Others disagree, that’s why we have elections and they’ll vote for McCain, or someone else.
All I’m saying is that people shouldn’t vote for candidates just to ‘spite’ others, it’s not an eighth grade Student Body election.
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
While I’m okay socially with the Dems…there really is no party that represents fiscal conservatism anymore and an understanding of a balanced budget.
Posted by: J-M, TX | June 10, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Hillary in 2012? You’re dreaming. If she can’t deliver her voters, seh won’t get any African-American voters in the primary. She got 50% when it was her and Obama. If it were her and other candidates she would get creamed.
Posted by: MarchingMorons | June 10, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Marchingmorons – exactly correct. If Obama fails to win in 2008, the Shrill Pantsuit will likely get the blame
With Magoo likely appointing one or 2 new members to the USSC and the disastrous decisions (for American women) that would bring, the Pantsuit will get HAMMERED in a 2012 Dem primary
Posted by: Bob | June 10, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Hillary in 2012? You’re dreaming. If she can’t deliver her voters, seh won’t get any African-American voters in the primary. She got 50% when it was her and Obama. If it were her and other candidates she would get creamed.
Posted by: MarchingMorons———-
The AA vote only adds up to about 12-13%. Women account for well over 50%.
Posted by: J | June 10, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
The undue venom against the presumptive Democratic nominee is pathetic. I cant even read this crap anymore.
I am more ashamed of some of you (as an american) than anything…..
WHAT DID THIS MAN DO TO YOU OTHER THAN WIN THE PRIMARY !
He was a class act, behind or ahead….
He treated Clinton with WAY more respect than she showed him.
She exploited any negative she could find ad infinitum.
He had the class to avoid ALL elements in her baggage……
So if you prefer Hillary Clinton as a president thats fine…. But why HATE Barack Obama??
I just don’t get it…..
Actually, I think I do get it….. and it is really ugly…..
Grow up people !
Posted by: Veisalgia | June 10, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
J – Exactly. And only 8%-9% actually voted, even though most knew Obama was running for president.
You need more then just one group of the electorate to win. White Blue-collar voters, Hispanics, Asians, African-Americans, Jews, Catholics, Young and old alike. Obama is NOT doing to well in many of these groups, which would spell trouble for ANY candidate.
Posted by: Just Words | June 10, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
AND,
This Strickland quote is not an insult. All he said was that he did not want to be VP.
How are idiots spinning it into an insult?
Many people would accept….. Many would decline…..
Hillary would LOVE to be VP
V
Posted by: Veisalgia | June 10, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Just Words,
You are right on all accounts. You would think the DNC would want to keep that 54% of women voter bloc wouldn’t you? That doesn’t even count in the white working class voters who voted for her and yes some of them were men.
Posted by: J | June 10, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Veisalgia – “”He treated Clinton with WAY more respect than she showed him.”"
You mean when he gave her “the finger” respect.
Or was it when he said “she is likeable enough”?
Or when he played Jay-Z “99 Problems…and a Bi*&^ ain’t one of them”??? in Iowa kinda of respect.
Ooohh..OOHhh I know when he imitated himself “kicking her off his shoe”??
He has NEVER shown her RESPECT. I don’t think he knows what it is….
Oh, and don’t let the door hit you in the ….oh well you know!
Posted by: Just Words | June 10, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Ohio will go for McCain in Nov. My guess is that Strickland wouldn’t make much of a difference. I wouldn’t say that it will be a landslide for McCain, but it shouldn’t be that close. Native Clevelander.
Posted by: Jimbo | June 10, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Strickland isn’t the only one who spoke out. So, did an a Sen. from Florida, and a Sen. from Oklahoma.
I am so proud of these guys speaking out, finally.
Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | June 10, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
wow!!! If you so call hillary supporter’s want to vote for mcsain go
ahead and vote that way. But i gotta say you all sound like a bunch of old bitter sore loser’s, even hillary your
candidate is endorsing the big O, So go ahead and vote your vindictive
spiteful, pitterful emotion’s, and we “NORNAL” people will do the job of getting this country back
on the right track… Loser’s get ah life.
Posted by: kenny | June 10, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I live in OH.Strickland dosen’t want the postion. There’s no story there. People reading way too much into it. He’ll campaign for Obama, because in the end it’s about winning. Well, not for me. Obama was pulling numbers out of his…hat today. Media called him on it. He makes good speeches, but nothing to back up his statements and figures. His plans make no sense. Well, I can’t make sense out of them because they change constantly. The DNC and superdelegates picked our nominee. If my vote dosen’t count, then why bother?
Posted by: Bea | June 10, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Any Democrat holding public office needs to be careful, when the smoke finally clears, I think some will be going down with Obama. looks like Ted Strickland is sending his constituents’ a clear message.
Posted by: Toby | June 10, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Any Democratic electoral map that counts on winning Ohio and/or Florida is about as trusty as a Cap’n Crunch treasure map. Time for something new.
Posted by: MIguy | June 10, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
The more hateful Wright is, the more it *proves* how wicked Americans are… because we made him that way! So goes the logic: the worse a protected class behaves the more it proves those better behaved must be guilty and sinful, equality achieved! Twenty years ago, a person who had taken his little girls to the American equivalent of a weekly Nuremberg rally, since they were born, would have been thrown out by the DNC.
Posted by: Emma | June 10, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
This is amazing! The democrats are taring themselves apart! All the Clinton supporters are going to destroy the democrats chance of winning the election and then Clinton will be remembered as the one who destroyed the democratic party by staying in the race so long and using so much negative campaigning.
And when McCain wins and starts implementing real pro-American laws, most of the dems will turn on Hillary so hard that she’ll never be able to keep any political position anywhere ever again. McCain ’08, McCain ’12, Republicans 4ever!
I never thought I’d actually be happy about something Clinton and her supporters are doing.
Posted by: Republicans 4ever | June 10, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
I honestly want McCain to win and for him to appoint 2 of the most conservative judges on the Supreme Court. I definitely would like to see Roe V Wade overturned it’s about time!
McCain ’08!
Posted by: Jay | June 10, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Obama will lose the election. McCain is older than dirt. I predict the load of office will ruin his health and his VP will take over. The Republican VP candidate is the pivotal politician in the next election, not Obama. I’m a Democratic voter who considered McCain, but his comment re: “How do we beat the bitch?” – was a deal breaker for me. America is still the same misogynist nation it’s always been.
Posted by: Disgusted Female Voter | June 10, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
slobo, The problem with theories is that they’re based on the theorist’s biases.
When Obama loses will you and his supporters blame it on angy females or the reality that the majority of voters thought him too inexperienced, had too much baggage and just wasn’t up to the job?
Posted by: Disgusted Female Votert | June 10, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Ohio did not, does not, will NEVER want Obama. Way to go, Ted, I salute you!!
Posted by: Bea | June 10, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Strickland is the kind of Democrat that’s killing the party. I live in Ohio. He is dull and lifeless. He’s a career ploitician with no ideas. I don’t think Obama would have picked him anyway. I don’t think he will pick Rendell either. Frankly, Obama needs to bring in something fresh. Those old goats that occupy the top tier of the Democratic Party need to go.
Posted by: J. Etta Moover | June 10, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Strickland would have been VP in a heatbeat to Hillary Rodham Clinton, the candidate that has the very huge voter following. Too bad the stupid super delegates get their views and news from the all Republican media Cable stations and did not even listen to the voters. All long time Democrats have a bad taste in their mouths because the out of touch..Pelosi,Krry,Kennedy,Daschle,Dean that tried to force an inexperienced “white hater” down our throats. Barry Obama attended Louis Farsrakhan’s million man march. What is the world were the super delegates thinking? You can see the “hate” in Michelle’s eyes. Michelle O has 36 years of the “white Hate mongering lectures by Rev. Wright, We do not want either of them in The United States Whitehouse. I say get them out before they even begin. We love all people and we love our country, We are proud of our troops and our US flag, more than you can say for the hateful two of them.
Posted by: John Garrison | June 10, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
CNN,Msnbc, super delegates and Obama tore The Democratic party apart. By their asinine decision the country suffers.
Our only chance is to have Clinton as VP.
Good for Strickland, and as far as a token women, better give that idea up real quick and bury the Webb of Va idea, he is a women hater, documented a long time ago.
Posted by: Logan Moore | June 10, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
LeeLee, you’ve changed your identity?
Posted by: MIguy | June 10, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
MIguy – you sound like an idiot. Truly. I’ve been a McCain supporter before it was ‘cool.’ I’m just speak my mind. I DO want McCain to get elected; that’s my right! As I stated you Obama and Hillary deserve each other. I can’t stand liberals. I do have my preference for someone with experience and someone who respect life – yes “life.” I’m pro-life and that’s my choice; just like I’m sure you have yours. I do pray for the day that Roe V Wade is overturned. Lastly, not everyone is an imposter like you all Democrats – pretending to be someone they are not.
McCain 08!
Posted by: Jay | June 11, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
It’s funny how oil companies are making more than 7 million an hour and the republican criminals crush a bill to raise their taxes. By the time McCain gets done with all his tax cuts we will be poorest country in the world. Hell, we are already at the bottom. Can you believe the republicans even scraped the tax incentives for solar, wind, and alternate fuels that were part of that bill. We are living in the friggin stone age. What kind of moron blocks higher mileage cars from being sold in this country. One thing I know for sure, is John McCain will never turn on big oil companies. Everything McCain knows about the economy comes from his campaign people. When it’s time to make decisions John boy will do exactly what he is told.
Posted by: Mike M | June 11, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
No worries, Jay… Thanks for the correction.
Posted by: MIguy | June 11, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Thanx to the few Clinton supporters who are level-headed and have decided to unite the Democratic Party. We cant force anyone to vote for the party but remember ‘what goes around comes around’. If Obama loses in December and it is attributed to lack of support from Hillary’s supporters, fine but in 2012,do you think hilary is going to get the support of Obama’s?
Posted by: vuzous | June 11, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
It is simply amazing that anyone is reading this as a rejection of Obama by Strickland.
Posted by: Shaun | June 11, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Ya know Jay, being pro-life is a good thing, but our country is at a tipping point on alot of other issues. As those oil producing nations get rich, their military gets stronger, and our standing in the world gets smaller. We need to vote for someone that is going to make some serious changes today, because a few years from now we could find ourselves in a world of trouble. What are some of the things you like about McCain’s policy’s, maybe I’m missing something.
Posted by: Mike M | June 11, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
He probably doesn’t want to be vp to Obama because anyone who is will be doing all of the work. Obama only knows how to give speeches. Besides, who wants to be offered the job just to try to gain unity in the party with Hillary’s supporters, as this article stated. People who are in politics love to tell you their accomplishments. No one wants to be remembered through history as the vp candidate who was picked just to pick up another candidates votes.
Posted by: Melanie | June 11, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
No offense Michael, but now you are talking about the ‘woman’, just like people talk about the ‘black’ man. My point was, and this is me personally…I can’t speak for anyone else, I don’t care what color they are or what sex they are, what I care about is that long before the Oregon primary came about, there were cries for her to step down. And that’s wrong. It is not a waste of money to give everyone an equal chance to vote for the candidate of their choice. It may not have been probable, but it was certainly possible for her to win right up to the last night. And if there are people who disagree with me, then maybe the real change we need has to do with the primaries and super delegates. It should be one voice, one vote for everyone and let the people decide all in one night from every corner of the US.
And I wasn’t aware I came across as giving her a pass on everything. No one is perfect. The whole point of my post was being tired of people continually saying my vote doesn’t count and insinuating that all people who don’t like Barack don’t like him because he is black. In my book, he isn’t black anyway, he is as much white as he is black although he would be the first to tell you he let go of his white side, well whatever. I just hear a lot of hype with no foundation to back it up, any color person can do that.
And to answer your question, if he wins I don’t have a clue what he is going to do because he changes his stripes at will. I am sure whatever it is will come as a big surprise. I just want to feel 100% confident about whoever that person is, male or female, black, white or purple.
Peace :)
Posted by: Linda in Oregon | June 11, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
Maybe Ted don want to get under the bus.
Posted by: Sam | June 11, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Cut the crap about popular vote already. 50 states, she won 20. He won 30. If a state has 20 million people and another has 1 million and they all vote, does state 1 cancel state 2?
This is why you have a proportional vote.
Hillary knew she had lost it, but selfishly chose to run the course in order to rack up a 30-30 million debt and to ensure the black man had a hard time. She was praying that “something” would pop up…it didnt.
Ted Strickland better not want the VP, there are much better choices out there.
And if you dont believe Hillary is behind all these Dems claiming they wont endorse, etc, you obviously believe the moon is made of green cheese.
Posted by: Fiona | June 11, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
It is worth noting that Strickland had previously disavowed any interest in serving as Hillary’s VP in equally unequivocal terms. This shouldn’t be perceived as a vote of no-confidence in Obama.
As far as Strickland preserving his reelection interests in “a very conservative state,” as an earlier poster suggested, is concerned, I would first of all disagree with that characterization of Ohio, and second of all suggest that it is irrelevant. If the ticket won, Strickland would be VP. If it lost, it would more than likely raise his profile in the state rather than decrease it. But that point is moot I suppose.
Posted by: Peter | June 11, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Boren is being politically smart. Cowardly, but smart. He represents the plains of Oklahoma for cryin’ out loud. I wonder if he endorsed the liberal Kerry?
Posted by: dave | June 11, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Hillary wont take the vp spot simply because when something goes wrong in his four years,if he can win, she doesnt want her name anywhere near it so she has a clean run in 2012 and believe me he will mess up something…
Posted by: Brittany | June 11, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Obama ran an amazing campaign and got the delegates needed to win, fair a square. Some people just can’t accept it…..so the “feet-stomping” and holding of one’s breath continues.
FYI–This is on Mark Ambinder’s “The Atlantic” blog. It seems that Strickland is not an Obama hater like some Clinton supporters are hoping.
Per Ambinder:
Gov. Ted Strickland’s strict and unequivocal statement about his lack of interest in being vice president or accepting a nomination was news to most of the media, and to me. But not to Ohioans. It seems that Strickland has said the exact same thing for a year. Didn’t matter whether Hillary Clinton was the presumptive nominee. Here’s Strickland in November of 2007.
An aide to Strickland e-mails: “Governor Strickland has said, consistently and unequivocally for several months now, that he has had no interest in appearing on the national ticket and that he would turn down any offers (while trying not to sound presumptuous, of course!).”
So it’s not quite right to interpret Strickland’s comments as a reproach to Barack Obama.
Posted by: AW | June 11, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Obama’s ship will sink sooner or later and Strickland is smart enough to read the handwriting on the wall. Actually, just about anybody with half a brain should be able to read that handwriting on the wall…
Posted by: JKR | June 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Ted Strickland another real Democrat hero!
Posted by: irma | June 11, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
I hope everyone stands up like this Governor. He knows what the score is.
He is to GOVERN,that is is his job.
Not take orders from Soros.
We have 2 choices. I have to go with McCain.
Posted by: mj | June 11, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I just want to school geevil on something right quick. The representative from Oklahoma said he didn’t want to endorse Obama. He didn’t want to endorse Clinton either. I wish you would get the rest of the comment he made instead of picking out a sentence like Sean Hannity does. The representative stated that he will vote for Obama in November. Guess you forgot to mention that part.
Secondly Strickland had no interest in being VP for either candidate. Right now Obama is beating McCain in OH, PA, WI, IA, CO, MO, in almost all the battle ground states while at the same time keeping his regular state that are traditionally blue. He’s tied with McCain in NM and VA. His numbers are surging whether you like it or not.
Posted by: Shelvey | June 11, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
I am the proud mom of an Ohio Natl Guard soldier who was deployed for more than a year to Iraq, and this state continues to send troops to that hellhole and to support the Bush familie’s personal vendetta in an illegal and unjust war. Now I can once again cast my vote for Obama in the GE, knowing that the Gov. of this state will not be on the ticket. I’m a baby boomer and a lifelong Republican prior to this corrupt administration, and Strickland is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Can’t wait to vote him out of office either!
Posted by: Mary | June 12, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
He’s no MLK, not even close, he’s no HRC, not even close
He swindled the nomination, and He will LOSE the GE
Posted by: michelina | June 12, 2008, 5:51 am 5:51 am
The reason Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don’t know all about him.
They don’t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Plaeger as his compass in life
They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist.
They don’t want to defend Black Liberation theology.
They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
They don’t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
They dont’ want a candidate that didn’t stand up for the voters of Michigan and Florida.
They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam supports
They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she liked our country
They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices
They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and steals votes from his opponent.
The don’t want a candidate that feels sorry to leave a church that is anti American and preaches hatred and racial views that are cruel and nasty.
They don’t want a candidate that is inexperienced.
They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
They don’t want a candidate that has a Muslim father.
They don’t’ want a candidate that can’t win a debate
They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘obama girl and her behind in their face”
They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisianna Black Caucus meeting
They don’t want a candidate that has done nothing for humanity except talk about it.
They dont’ want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama
He scares them to death.
He is embarrassing.
He is unelectable.
Posted by: Al from NJ | June 12, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
“Thanx to the few Clinton supporters who are level-headed and have decided to unite the Democratic Party. We cant force anyone to vote for the party but remember ‘what goes around comes around’. If Obama loses in December and it is attributed to lack of support from Hillary’s supporters, fine but in 2012,do you think hilary is going to get the support of Obama’s?”
Well…I am a Clinton supporter and VERY level headed. I am also an independent that does not want a character like Obama to lead my country for many reasons, all valid.
Also…last I remember, the GE is held in November…NOT December. Also…the least you could do is spell Hillary right.
Again…our public educational system sucks if this is the best they can do!
Posted by: Indie Here | June 12, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Like Obama, his supporters and this Obama’s DNC party are great at stealing people credits and are afraid to be accountable for their own action.
Obama is selected by the insiders while Hillary is elected by the people. So, if Obama looses then it is on his head and those who support a weak candidate. Stand up like a real leader!
The idea of having a repub president and a dem congress may be the best thing for the country now so that we can have real check and balance. It is a revolting fear tactic to play on women by playing the anti-abortion card! Remember, congress can block any crazy nomination for the supreme court from the president; that’s the power of the check and balance.
Voting for Obama is to run a risk of having the Bush’s 1st term again where we had a inexperienced president with a republican congress who just say ‘yes’.
Posted by: vote4thebest | June 12, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
It’s a shame and obvious from reading these blogs, racism is alive & well in the US. The lengths to which some racists go to discredit Obama is hilarious to most intelligent people. McCain’s party/ideas are is tired and have failed this country for 8 yrs! The majority wants change! Ohio has plenty of racists and who cares if he doesn’t win it. It is 1 state not the country, but the few people who care about this country there & elsewhere and can look past their personal issues will have the last word, not a bunch of whiners! Go Obama!
Posted by: truth61 | June 12, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
It is rather disturbing when I say I will not vote for a man based on political reasons, the accusations of racism fly because of his skin color. I absolutely despise the ridiculousness of such low-life tactics. If that’s all you Obamanites have, you’re awfully pathetic. Children trying to play grown-up. As for these polls that show anyone other than a republican leading in Ohio, they’ve gone into the short north and selected the most liberal people to poll, because I’m from the state, and I see an overwhelming support for the white-haired hero. Those who say any one state doesn’t matter can think again. Ohio was the critical swing in the Bush election(okay, don’t put all of that on us–obviously others voted for him, too) I did not. But, this time around, I think McCain is just that much closer to reality. I hear, “change, change change” and see same, same, same …and get told regularly by the great orator that I’m just a BITTER American. Bite me. Bring on McCain! Strickland is making a very, very good choice to avoid association on that level. Politics require party support, so he’ll be forgiven his campaigning for the BO. Running on the ticket is a whole other animal. As for BO supporters, just because a man speaks beautifully of change it does NOT mean he can actually get it done. Several of the higher senators of his OWN party are supporting McCain. I believe that screams volumes of the capabilities,or lack thereof, of this young man. I think it is also amazing the blindness of those who say Obama won 30 states–how many of those are known red states? Let the media blind you. They have been glazed over since Iowa. What a let down the GE has become to those of you media hounds who were into the “celebrity death match” -esque of the Dem candidate competition. McCain doesn’t need to stoop to that level to get supporters. Perhaps that will pull the younger vote who need to be entertained by the mud throwing, but those of us who want substance, we’re not impressed. Rise above! Another problem I see with BO is that he launched a website to debunk the rumors about him! The media love fest must be over for him to feel he had to launch such a site. Yeah, I’m voting for that Obama drama….NOT!!!!
Posted by: ohioveteran | June 12, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Republicans use racist fear of the black man while they continue to screw over whites and everyone else as they laugh all the way to the bank.
Yep, republicans are counting on whites to ignore 7 years of getting screwed without vaseline because they think fear of blacks will trump any problems they have with bush/cheney and mccain.
Posted by: geevil | June 13, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
All this talk about VP. In all reality the VP is more important to Americans voting for McCain then for Obama because the possiblity all jokes aside is with McCain’s age they may have to complete his the remainder of his term should he become ill or worse. I don’t think his age will weather good with the being President. Look how Bill Clinton and George Bush Jr aged. They served 8 yrs in the office and their features looked as if they aged 20-25 yrs during that time. The everyday stress of being President is hard on the heart during times of peace I can’t imagine what it would do facing a war with no end in sight, a county that seems to be headed into a economic depression and the body needs rest to regenerate and with those 3 o’clock in the morning calls Hillary was talking about when does the President ever sleep. Seriously though I don’t think not wanting to be Obama’s VP is all about race with Strickland and some of the other people on the short list. This is reality Walter Mondale and Al Gore served as VPs and didn’t get elected president, and the VPs in the last terms have not been very impressive so why should they leave their state, let someone else take their seat who may be a republican, fight a battle on war and economy that this country has been losing, and face Hilary in the next run for President. I think they would like a little more job security I mean nobody becomes VP then go back and become a senator again. Its called job security why take the chance of letting someone else get their foot in the door in your state which you will problably have a political seat in as Governor or Senator until you decide to retire. I mean Rendell and Strickland are smart guys why not go out being a senior senator like Kennedy has been doing all these years I know I wouldn’t trade a moment of fame as VP with all the obstacles facing this county in the near future and the president’s rating is at an all time low when I can contribute still by remain where I am and serve the constituents I represent not for the next for years but maybe the next 40 yrs. These 2 people if they become VP have a lot to loose after the term is up they will be misplaced and homeless and needless to say jobless. Not everyone has done as well as Al Gore after being VP where is Mondale, Quale and how bad has Chaney’s health become since he has become VP. Rendell and Strickland are indeed smart men they aren’t looking at the battle the Democrats are fighting today they are looking to fight in the battles the Democrats will face in the future. You see some battles are won and some are lost but what is most important is who wins the war. You see they want to survive pass this Democratic battle for President which if fought intelligently is a sure win given the way the republicans have performed over the last 8 yrs that is if everyone democrat votes in the general election. So right now they are positioning and arming themselves to ensure that the Democrats win not just this battle but the majority of the battles that will occur 10 and 15 yrs from now ensuring the American people a victory in this war to protect is citizens and the “American Dream”
Posted by: Had2BaLady | June 14, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Amazing how this campaign has brought out such deep hatred in so many people. I mean–come on, praying for Obama’s defeat in November and all the racist comments? So what if he lacks strength in foreign policy? I don’t recall George Bush being qualifified to run the white house much less capable of conducting foreign affairs. Despite all of the on-the-job training he received from daddy Bush and others, he made numerous costly blunders. Simply put, a vote for McCain means a vote for Bush’s continued agenda that is designed to keep us in poverty. Our sons and daughters, husband, brothers and uncles are fighting a senseless war in Iraq. We want our troops home now!
And as for Hillary, having her as his VP would be a huge mistake. Could you imagine she and Bill undermining every decision he tries to make? Sorry, you blew during the last several months; and therefore, cannot be trusted.
Posted by: jazzy2008 | June 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm