Jun 25, 2008 2:02pm
One Word About the Timing of Nader’s Racial Rant
Considering how disappointed many liberals and progressives are in Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, this week for his flip-flop on public financing and his willingness to support the compromise FISA bill — despite an earlier promise to filibuster it if it contained retroactive immunity for the telecoms — it can be argued that it actually helps Obama for Mr. Nader to have made his curious comments about Obama "talk(ing) white."
Might discourage some lefties from abandoning the Democratic ship.
Just a thought.
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Is is possible for Ralph Nader or John McCain to “talk black”?
Would the media hyperventilate over it if someone asked it about them?
Posted by: Sally J. | June 25, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
What the media can not report on multiple items, oh thats right they are in bed with Obama!!
Obama is a liar, he says he voted for a bill meanwhile he was one of only 6 that did not vote!!
Posted by: spock | June 25, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Great question… Media, can you ask Nader and McCain if they can “talk black”?
Posted by: hattiew | June 25, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Oh the intensity of this high school prom king vote is almost all I can take .. how great is this? Yawn!!
Posted by: MJ | June 25, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
What a perfect diversion. I’m sure Obama is thrilled about it. But you’re not fooled.
I think a better distraction is all of McCain’s flip-flops. I can keep track of Obama’s, but I have no idea where McCain stands on anything. I’m very afraid it may be early Alzheimer’s. Scary.
Posted by: Pete | June 25, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
After what happened in 2000, they’ll do everything in their power to discredit Nader, so nothing interferes with them bringing their product(Obama) to market.
Posted by: Mack | June 25, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
JAKE
why did mccain opt into public finance when his campaign was in shambles, take out a loan, opt out of public finance, raise cash and spend cash well above what the public finance systema llows in a primary per state, and then opt back in, and then call obama a great disappointment?
Why are you reporting that he only supports the fisa bill, what about the rest of the story?
when he says hes going to try to remove immunity for telecoms
so geevil i guess your wrong not everyone in the media is for obama or willing to tell the truth…
i think mccains gotten a pretty easy ride from his “base”
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I think Nader complaining that someone is “talking white” is a bit like Urkel complaining that someone was being geeky.
Posted by: Rob, Indianapolis | June 25, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Obama and McCain tied in the Gallup daily poll track. There are still more than 10% of people undecided. Following the primary trend, undecided voter broke again Obama on the voting day, Obama will lose the ge.
Posted by: amy | June 25, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama doesn’t know from one day to the next what he’s talking about, the promises he’s made and which side of the fence he’s supposed to be on. He’s got so many faces, positions, religions, stances, associates with bad reputations, it’s no wonder he never knows what’s going on.
The new King of Flip Flop.
Thoroughly confused during his campaign; imagine what it would be like if he was President (which he won’t be).
Posted by: Lee | June 25, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
hey pete i totally agree the only thing mccain is good at is flip flopping i dont know what he stands for and what he dont i dont think he knows me being an independent i tried to give mccain the benifit of the doubt but your right hes too scary to be president he makes me dizzy with his flip flopping i will be quite happy with my decision to vote for obama in nov
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
nader its people like you that keeps racisim alive im white and what the hLL do you mean about white talk the last i checked you fool its called ENGLISH your a disgrace go climb back under the hole you came out of!!
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Nader nailed it this time – his remarks are exactly what I felt about Obama. He in fact intentionally hides a lot of black hatred toward white so as to avoid irking the white votes he needs. This is exactly the same thing he did to the Muslim community that several major newspaper articles have reported recently. He can ignore the black community because he knows he will get their 100% vote. But he has to pander the whites by talking about things that white people like to hear.
It is nothing wrong with the positive stuff he is using to portrait himself, but I just don’t trust him – what exactly he believes? His words are no longer to be trusted.
Posted by: amy | June 25, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
amy
meanwhile ever other poll has obama up by 7-15
hmmm wonder which one is an outlier?
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Lee
i cant help but laugh at your post because it sounds like your talking about mccain but you kept saying obama
lol thought i would correct you on that one
after all mccain is the king of the flip flop
teh biggest pander bear at the zoo
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
nader
lol this guys still trying to run for president
my god
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
i also think its funny that yesterday all the repub people on here were running around saying… polls dont matter, so what if all the polls have him up, its too early to tell anything… what a sham
and then suddenly a poll comes out that is the only poll to have them tied and its like
HAHAHAHHA IN YER FACE WERE WINNING HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Senator Obama has used “White guilt and race baiting” in this campaign. His supporters have their head in the sand.
His attending Trinty Church 20 years shows his true colors and thinking.
Posted by: Mai | June 25, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
bhrandon – there is no public finance for the primary and McCain actually spent very little.
He won spending about 10$ per delegate, meanwhile Obama spent over a 1000$ per delegate!!
got to wonder!!
Hey Libs follow your leader Obama and say you are going to Vote for him, then do not show up election day and then on the next day say you voted for him, if you want to be like him then act like him!!
Posted by: spock | June 25, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
nader was never my choice for leaving the democrat party.
McCain is my choice after 30 years voting democrat for president.
Posted by: TO | June 25, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
“amy
meanwhile ever other poll has obama up by 7-15
hmmm wonder which one is an outlier?”
Don’t get too excited. It’s only June. Plenty of time for typical Americans to get to know Mr. empty suit.
Posted by: Mack | June 25, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Obama’s positive speech was inspiring, but after the Wright stuff came out there is legitimate suspect that whether Obama truly believes what he talks. He has no records to show his so called “inclusiveness”.
Posted by: amy | June 25, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Whoopee angie – 90% of the blacks did & will vote for BO because he is black For those of you that keep talking polls then you better check those because those are the facts of what did happen.
Posted by: d bag | June 25, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
will someone please tell me how obama used race in his campaign the last time i checked it was the clintons and the media with theirWHITE WORKING MIDDLE CLASS VOTE THING i have never heard obama use race in any of his speeches and ive heard them all oh and by the way I AM A WHITE WORKING MIDDLE CLASS WOMAN SUPPORTING OBAMA 100 PERCENT!!!
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
still no one wants to touch on why mccain has broke his promise on public finance, and broke the law on public finance
guess whats good for the goose isnt good for the gander
“my friends i am going to tell you one thing and tomorrow im going to tell other people something completely different, and then someones going to have it on tape and when teh press asks me why i said this yesterday ill say i didnt say that, and then theyll show me this magical thing called video, and pull up web sites and the google and i will have to figure out what it is i have said or didnt say”
iraq was for oil
immigration is fine
bush tax cuts are no good
we should stay in iraq for 100 years
there should be no off shore drilling
i voted for levees
i voted to protect the everglades
i think we should talk to rogue nations
i will not play the fear card
i will not opt into public financing and then opt out again
i am a maverick
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
bhrandon – Polls are useless!! especialy at this time!!
angie – you must be an Obama supporter, is is factual that 90% of Blacks that will vote will be for Obama, Which actually is not an achievement since 90% of Blacks that vote usually vote Democrat!! The Dems use the Blacks, and I still do not understand why they vote for the Dems, since it was the dems that fought to keep slavery, filibustered the Civil Rights bills in the 60′s and fought against their right to vote
Also remember MLK was Republican!!
Posted by: spock | June 25, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
hey d bag i dont listen to polls im just simply saying i know black people who dont support him but what about the black person who always had to support the white man for president they did and they didnt cry about it
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
hey spock i am a die hard supporter of obama and like i keep saying i have alot of black co workers woman and men who dont like him and they support mccain so stop saying im lying
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Does anyone care about/listen to Nader?
Obama’s broken campaign promises–remarkable in their short shelf life (he hasn’t even been elected, let alone sworn in as POTUS yet, and he is already breaking them)–are not mitigated by anything Nader does/says.
The issue is how can we believe that Obama will do anything he pledges to do if elected?
Is this the politics of change or business as usual?
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | June 25, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Angie you must have been sleeping. It was BOs people that turned what Bill said into a racial thing. Now BO is saying “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid,” Obama said at the fundraiser. “They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black? He’s got a feisty wife.”
He must think us white folk are dumb that we could see that he is black. I think he meant to say “He’s got a nasty wife”
Posted by: d bag | June 25, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
OBAMA is just campaign rhetoric that is so old. Obama tells his audience that John McCain “opposed legislation to fund levees and flood control programs, which he considers pork”. How far can someone go to CHANGE THE TRUTH without so much a comment from the press? Talk about people in Obama’s pockets and in America of all places where the “press” was truthful and informative but are now letting the people down. The bill was to cost the tax payers some $23 billion dollars and was nothing more than a waste of taxpayer’s money because it was full of earmarks and very little for flood control. You know that wasteful spending that Obama himself wants says he is trying to get rid of. What Obama did not tell you is that John McCain and other senators tried to fix the water bill, and get rid of the “pork” and make it a bill that would not waste the taxpayer’s money and get the job done. What Obama did not tell you is that Obama voted against taking the “pork” out of the bill—he voted “nay”. Obama stands for politics-as-usual, more lies and corruption. It is John McCain who stands for change. The amendment steered the money and efforts toward stronger levees and not putting money into politician’s earmarks….like the huge earmark of 17 million that Obama’s church received.
Posted by: Anne | June 25, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Angie you keep using race. Do you always seperate your friends by announcing that they are black or white. My friends are people no description needed!
Posted by: d bag | June 25, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Hope Nader spoils everything for Obama.
Go McCain
Posted by: concerned | June 25, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
welll tell pollsters and you the politically correct thing, but behind the privacy of the voting booth, we are not voting black. and history proves us out: surprise in november folks.
Posted by: ron | June 25, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Not ranting – it is fact.
Posted by: d bag | June 25, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
hey ron what about when the black had to vote white they didnt cry remember obamas half white if that matters
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
LOL mccains now ripping off obamas speeches
obama has been attacking mccain on his 300 million proposal to anyone in the world, by saying “When John F. Kennedy decided that we were going to put a man on the moon, he didn’t put a bounty out for some rocket scientist to win — he put the full resources of the United States government behind the project and called on the ingenuity and innovation of the American people.”
now today we see john mccain talking about “strategic” foreign oil independance (i dont know what strategic means either)by 2025 (i may also remind you iraq war won by 2013)
“Some will say this goal is unattainable within that relatively short span of years — it’s too hard and we need more time. Let me remind them that in the space of half that time — about eight years — this nation conceived and carried out a plan to take three Americans to the Moon and bring them safely home.”
lol nice on mccain now you need some talking points from obama cause hes whoopin ya
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
d bag what do you mean by 2 examples please explain
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Or was it a speech BO ripped off from someone else? We know how he is!
Posted by: d bag | June 25, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I don’t think it helps anyone particularly. Unlike what Obama is saying, I’m not hearing anyone who is that concerned he is AA. I am hearing that he is inexperienced, has a history of shady associates, spent 20 years in a church espousing radical Black Liberation Theology, and has no clue about how American innovation and genius can be used to help solve problems.
All the race issue does is heat up the bad brew. If we keep drinking from that bottle, expect bad things to happen not because there are plots but because as McVeigh and others have shown, at the edge of any divide are the “true believers” who will do anything and accept any outcome to express their anger in unacceptable ways.
It is about power. When people feel they are being disempowered, they will do anything to take it back.
This is bad juju, people. No one wins and a lot of innocents lose. Don’t do it.
Posted by: len | June 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Not sure what to explain. Can we count 1..2? Two small examples of race baiting by BO & his people.
1.)It was BOs people that turned what Bill said into a racial thing. 2.) Now BO is saying “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid,” Obama said at the fundraiser. “They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black? He’s got a feisty wife.”
Posted by: d bag | June 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
We all know poor Obama is a victim…
But it looks like even the far-left is turning on Obama because of his latest flip-flop on FISA.
Straddling the fence isn’t working so well for Obama–time to play the race card again–that seems to work well.
Posted by: riley | June 25, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
i think your mistaken d bag he was talking about the mccain campaign and if he was talking about bill so be it can you honestly sit there and tell me bill clinton did not use the race card please he used every card thats why hillary lost because of bills big racisit mouth!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Obama did not flip flop on public financing. He originally said he would consider it. He never signed a pledge! Why don’t you reporters start covering McCain’s numerous flip flops instead of giving him a senior citizen’s pass. Do your job and vet him.
Posted by: Barry Chitwood | June 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I love the people critical of Obama, with Nader and Dodson as enemies, kinda gives me a warm fuzzy for Obama. It’s been said that “you can tell a man by his enemies”, this puts Obama well up there, doesn’t it?
Posted by: 2791c | June 25, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
HOW COME ALL THESE YEARS WE WERE NEVER ASKED ABOUT VOTING FOR WHITE POLITICIANS?
AS WE DID AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO – WITHOUT QUESTIONS
Posted by: independentBlackman | June 25, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Jake,
Liberals as a whole are GLAD that Obama didn’t take public financing so that really was NOT a big issue.
FISA is a big issue with liberals and many on the left are disappointed with Obama if indeed he votes for the FISA bill. Obama may not though so who knows about that.
In terms of Nader, the vast majority of liberals would not even think of voting for Nader for that means that McCain would be president and there goes the Supreme Court.
I do agree that Nader’s IDIOTIC comments will make it harder for any liberal to vote for Nader. If Nader was smart, he should have just attacked Obama on the FISA bill but by injecting race into the question, Nader has LOST that argument.
Posted by: Janey | June 25, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
When Obama has to remind everyone that he is black–who is he trying to convince, influence, or manipulate?
Why would anyone that bases their whole campaign on being a uniter feel the need to say “and did I mention that I’m black”?
What a big huge fraud…
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 25, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
LIKE I SAID INDEPENDENT BLACK MAN THE BLACK HAD TO VOTE FOR THE WHITE AND THEY DID AND DID NOT CRY ABOUT IT LIKE THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE PLEASE PEOPLE GET A GRIP!!!
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Race will play a part in the election. Some will not vote for him because of his skin tone and some will only vote for him because of it. Probably more people will vote for him because of it, than against him for it.
Obama is very comfortable playing both the race card and the age card.
Posted by: Mack | June 25, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Oh please. This is getting ridiculous.
Now, about that Fake “certification of live birth”……it’s looking very, very likly that it was made on the same computer as that Fake presidential seal……
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | June 25, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
After what happened in 2000, they’ll do everything in their power to discredit Nader, so nothing interferes with them bringing their product(Obama) to market.
Posted by: Mack | Jun 25, 2008 2:25:14 PM
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Nader is a perfect foil against Obama. Take votes from BO and vote Nader, then you can hold nose lightly. A McCain vote is to hold nose tightly! Kerry knows about this.
Posted by: HP Boston | June 25, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
ARE WE FORGETING HES HALF WHITE NOT THAT THAT SHOULD MATTER LOOK I DONT CARE IF HES GREEN PURPLE OR BLUE COLOR SHOULD NOT MATTER WHAT SHOULD MATTER IS WHO IS GONNA TAKE THIS COUNTRY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THE WARS THE ECONOMY GAS PRICES MORTAGES ETC THATS WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT COLOR GROW UP PEOPLE CHOOSE YOUR CANIDATE ON POLICIES NOT COLOR!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
2791c, Obama’s enemies might put him up there as you say… but then we have to look at who his friends are and he gets knocked right back down!
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 25, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Simple question. If Obama isn’t hiding anything on his real birth certificate, then why not just release it?
Posted by: HoosierSue | June 25, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Jake,
Liberals don’t care about public financing in fact only the media does. FISA that’s a different story. If you’re going to try and represent the views of a liberal at least consult one first. Regardless Nader will in no way help Obama and it’s odd that you state a case can be argued but you don’t bother to argue it.
Posted by: jeremy | June 25, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
The issue is how can we believe that Obama will do anything he pledges to do if elected?
Is this the politics of change or business as usual?
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | Jun 25, 2008 2:58:52 PM
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What has he PROMISED? Have I missed some real, REAL concrete, specific ideas and plans that BO has PROMISED?
Hurry tell me before he flip flops again and CHANGES his plans. Hurry….
Posted by: HP Boston | June 25, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
“PRINCETON, NJ — The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on the presidential election finds John McCain and Barack Obama exactly tied at 45% among registered voters nationwide.”
Sealgate and Pledge-breaking-gate are making a difference. Who cares about Nader? The disgusting Obama love fest at the BET awards will drive more voters away. Obama already has 120% of the black vote.
Posted by: geevill | June 25, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
geevil, and if a poll finds McCain & Obama tied, then you know McCain is ahead because people don’t feel comfortable telling a pollster they’re voting against Obama.
Glad to know McCain is winning. Thanks!
Posted by: Jo | June 25, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
“”PRINCETON, NJ — The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on the presidential election finds John McCain and Barack Obama exactly tied at 45% among registered voters nationwide.”
No wonder CNN put out their junk polls this morning. It was in anticipation of this poll. Slimy
Posted by: Mack | June 25, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
First we hear that Michelle Obama said they need to get more whites behind the podium (for the speech) and now they move the muslim women.
Can you say phony? LOL! Geeze, how contrived is this campaign?
Love it.
Posted by: Jo | June 25, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
hey jo and gee evil mccain will never win my friends hes too old out of touch and pretty much he dosent have a clue i know your scared obama is gonna crush him but its ok you will come to love PRESIDENT BARRACK OBAMA now gee evil and jo take a deep breath say it PRESIDENT OBAMA you will love it!!!
Posted by: angie | June 25, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
drudge always puts these phony “shock polls” showing Obama ahead by 12% or 15%. Obama is throwing tons of ad money to drudge. Just like he bought superdelegates and is trying to buy Clinton voters.
Rasmussen Nebraska poll McCain 52% Obama 36%. so much for the new electoral map.
Posted by: geevill | June 25, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
geevill
you must have really liked the BET awards. you been talking about it all day
Posted by: whitehiphop | June 25, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
What ever happened to the 8-10% bounce Obama was expecting?
Posted by: Just Curious | June 25, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
“We don’t need the people, we just need their checks” – Barry Obama
Yeah…that is Presidential material alright! LOL!
Oh…and can we ever forget those amazing words from “The One”….”Why can’t I just eat my Waffle?!”
PUMA! – “Taking Back the Democratic Party!”
Posted by: JustWords | June 25, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Awww, ABC doesn’t want you to read the PC vs Mac article because it doesn’t reflect well on Obama.
Posted by: geevill | June 25, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Barry’s new ads brags about his “championing” rights for US soldiers … Well. Guess what? He wasn’t even there to vote. The guy doesn’t know up from down. I think Nader is on the money.
Posted by: beebop | June 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Obama has never been liberal enough for me. But I’d never vote for Nader. What Dems do you hang out with, Jake, who’d even consider jumping to Nader’s ship at this point? They must have been shackled in the hold with no news of the outside world since the Clinton administration. Nader is as fresh as a “Dr. No” reference, a mean-spirited spoiler, in it only for the schadenfreude.
Posted by: Lindy | June 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
beebop
i think you meant to say mccain didnt vote for the bill
The Democratic National Committee accused John McCain of being AWOL from the Senate vote yesterday for a new GI Bill to provide better education benefits for returning veterans. McCain was in California on a campaign and fund-raising trip, while both Democratic contenders, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, left the campaign trail to vote for the bill, which passed by a veto-proof 75-to-22 majority.
Posted by: bhrandon | June 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Explanation #1 -the documents were not computer printed in 1961.
Posted by: geevill | June 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
No.
I think the timing has to do with ballot access and having a direct contrast to the love affair the left is having with Barack. On one hand the right is hitting him about the head and shoulders because he is too black to be believed. Nader is smacking him around about having black skin but not being substantively black.
The diagnosis is Obama is an ink blot for all our fears.
Posted by: Genna | June 25, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Nader would have been better off to say obama was “talking corporate” — but Nader’s comment is certainly not a “racial rant” as the corporate whores at ABC incite it to be.
Obama is doing exactly the same thing as ‘Rebel Al’ Gore did in the summer of 2000, when he first came down from the mountains in fatigues and a Castro beard and briefly promised to average Americans, “I’ll fight those powerful corporate interests for your interests” — and then the DNC and DCL beat up Gore and he caved into the corporate shill that all two-party ‘Vichy’ candidates always become before November.
Obama is just doing what all Democratic horses do in the race.
It’s not an issue of his being a black horse or a white horse — but of being a corporate whore.
Posted by: Alan MacDonald | June 29, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Why even give Nader a second thought. He comes out every 4 to 8 years to let us know he is still around (usually around an election). I can’t understand why a person would even cast a vote for him. Makes you wonder what their motive really is. Play the spoiler? I wonder if Ralph Nader and Ross Perot is related. I think candidates like these should stay underground. Nader can’t win and knows it. Why clog up the airways with more worthless news.
Posted by: Dan K | August 8, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am