Pelosi on Clinton: ‘She May Run Again’
EmailABC News’ Karen Travers Reports: Addressing the question of whether sexism played a significant role in Sen. Hillary Clinton’s failure to win the Democratic nomination, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wouldn’t say it was responsible for her defeat but acknowledged that sexism is “a given.”
“Is there sexism? Probably so. Is it responsible for the defeat? I really wouldn’t have the scientific knowledge, all of the information to know that,” the Speaker said. “My impression is, ‘Yes there was sexism.’ My knowledge is, ‘Yes there is sexism because there has been.’
“I’m the victim of sexism myself, but I think it goes with the territory. I don’t sit around to say but for that, but for that.”
Speaker Pelosi said that Clinton benefited from being a woman with the strong support she received from women voters and that perhaps she takes another shot at the White House.
“[W]omen are wildly enthusiastic about her candidacy. Not just a woman but this woman, this talent, this intellect, stamina,” she said. "I think her candidacy was a bright bright moment for us and she may run again."
The reason that the approval ratings for Congress are at an all-time low is because the legislative branch has not ended the war in Iraq, Speaker Pelosi said Tuesday.
In a breakfast with reporters in Washington, D.C. Pelosi noted that the two main issues related to Congress’ low approval ratings are the war in Iraq and rising energy costs and said that it is Democrats who are the most “down on Congress.”
“I think that the reason that the Congress is at an all time low in the confidence of the American people is that we did not end the war,” the Speaker said. “The issue of the economy is the big issue but the issue of the war is still there. And if you look at those numbers of Congress’ approval rating, the Democrats are the ones who are down on congress. Republicans too, but the Democrats more so. And it’s about the war.”
ABC News’ Polling Director Gary Langer reports that in a recent Gallup poll (June 12), just 19 percent of those polled approved of the job Congress was doing, while 74 percent disapproved.
Obama opting out of public financing
Speaker Pelosi toed the party line with her reaction to Sen. Barack Obama’s decision to withdraw from the public financing system in the general election, saying that his decision is based on the fact that he has a large pool of small donors, instead of relying on big money donors, which is a “tremendous difference.”
“The comfort level I have with the decision made by Sen. Obama springs from the fact that he has over a million and a half small donors. And if he was saying I am walking away from public financing because I have a lot of big donors, then that would be one thing,” Pelosi said. “He is taking a different tact because he has over a million small donors.”
Speaker Pelosi said her own opinion is to have “public financing across the board” but said that Obama’s decision is acceptable because “he has honored the spirit of small donors participating in campaigns and frowning on the participation of outside groups.”
When asked about the meeting that Obama will have on Thursday with several dozen of Clinton’s top fundraising bundlers, Speaker Pelosi said she views that meeting as a “political event” rather than a fundraising one.
“I don’t know that he’s asking them to do that [bundle money]. Sen. Obama was one of the biggest proponents of the bundling piece that was in the ethics committee bill,” Pelosi said. “I imagine that is a political meeting to say to those people who are opinion makers in their universe of politics that they would be supportive of him. I don’t frankly view that as a fundraising event, I view it as a political event.”
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it is not sexism, it is hillary herself. i was so excited a woman was running but after her crap here in iowa, and from that point forward all she did was prove to be an embarrassment for all women. Hillary herself did this, no one else. I am so sick of it being blamed on sexism.
Posted by: becky | June 24, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Get rid off Obama by voting for McCain in November so Hillary can re-run in 2012. Obama is trying to do anything to win this election and he is a liar.
Posted by: Laura | June 24, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Laura, do you work for McCain. slither back under your rock.
Absolutely no thinking democrat can vote for McCain…and frankly if that is your committment to women’s rights..
the maybe if you dont already you should go to work for McBush.
The committment is to principle not people.
Posted by: ZANE | June 24, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“[W]omen are wildly enthusiastic about her candidacy. Not just a woman but this woman, this talent, this intellect, stamina,” she said. “I think her candidacy was a bright bright moment for us and she may run again.”
Nancy,
I could not agree with you more…Sadly, she came up short because it would have been interesting to see her run and win the presidency. This was her time to do it so in 2012 maybe there will be another strong one.
Posted by: nicky | June 24, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
It is not sexism, it is anti-dynasty. People just don’t want another clinton in the house.
It is sexism that a large part of Hillary’s supporters were voting for her because she is a woman and not a man.
“Clinton benefited from being a woman with the strong support she received from women voters”
How is that not sexist?
Posted by: Jake | June 24, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Zane,
I’m not a republican but I think this selection is undemocratic process. DNC doesn’t respect the will of people.
Posted by: Laura | June 24, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
shiloh: you sound just like the type of woman who would vote for hillary! I more class so I will not say anything more.
Posted by: becky | June 24, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
GREAT LADY.. I WILL SUPPORT HER AGAIN ANYTIME
AT THIS TIME, CONSIDERING THE ECONOMY AND BUSH, OBAMA SHOULD BE LEADING MCCAIN BY 15 POINTS. INSTEAD MCCAIN MAY OVERTAKE HIM SOON.
OBAMA IS WRONG CANDIDATE, WRONG TIME
TJ, THE ABSOLUTE CLINTONITE SAYING DNC BLEW IT
Posted by: TJ | June 24, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
the sad truth is this;
average american voter = moronically unintelligent and thus pre-doomed to be duped (by the powers that be) into voting for and electing genius level presidents like gw bush ( I and II ; go figure …) ron reagan and now to top it all off… barack obama!!!
Posted by: bah | June 24, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
i am a woman who did not support hillary and im glad she did not win look at the example she set for woman making us look like sore losers having fits when we dont get our way she really did not set good examples for us woman not to mention shes horrible with money just think if she were president the debt we would be in
Posted by: angie | June 24, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
This presidential primary was the best thing that happened to Hillary Clinton. She started off as one of the most hated women in American politics and ended being revered.
When you have a choice between one of the most hated white woman and a black person, the white woman wins hands-down.
This is crazy. All of a sudden the Clintons are honorable. Gimme a break!
Posted by: jack | June 24, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Hillary did not enthusiastically appealed to Women only, but also to many minorities, specially Latino men and women. I strongly believe we have not seen the last of Mrs Clinton. On the subject of Obama, the flip flopper, arrogant and concescending, inexperienced president wannabe, i will never vote for him, and i am making sure anyone i know doesn’t make the mistake of voting for him either.
Posted by: Persio | June 24, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Becky- you are a disgrace to women. You bought into the line that Obama is the uniter, and the author of change in DC, when in reality he is a pol….straight out of Chicago at that. He will call you sweetie while he pats you on the ass as you fetch him his drink. That’s progress!! He is the slime in this scenario, and before you jump there, no, I am not a republican or a McCain supporter. I am a 40 something gay woman who is fed up with this misogynistic empty suit.
Posted by: D | June 24, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
get lost Pelosi.
Posted by: geevill | June 24, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Only a strong woman can represent me, not one who does not have her own mind. She may be a hard-worker and intelligent, but she is a follower. She did not even make the decision to run on her own, and once she did, she allowed everyone else to tell her what to do. That is why she never had a steady slogan.
No thank you, maam. I can wait a little longer for the right woman.
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
With all that plastic surgery, I wasn’t sure Pelosi was a woman.
Posted by: Aston | June 24, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
hillary will never get my vote and alot others in 2012 and you can all take that to the bank remember hill fans obama has alot of supporters too!!!
Posted by: angie | June 24, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
I think Pelosi has nerve to try to blame sexism for Hillary’s situation. She was out there hand wringing and screeching about her getting out of the race before all the votes were cast right along with Howard Dean and other DNC officials. I hope she gets what is coming to her for her involvement in the DNC hijacking the process. I blame her for the low poll numbers for the Congress as well. She has not accomplished anything for the people since she has been running the show up there in the House. She is a solid gold hypocrite. Well she got her man and she can have him.
Posted by: L DeVane | June 24, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Rational and informed voters know that Senator Clinton was the better candidate but the media, DNC, Democratic VIPs and big money selected Obama, the lessor of the two. He has a very questionable background with his long known assoiciates and has done very little politically to help anyone except himself. He is dud–not presidential.
Posted by: Mary | June 24, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
I agree…we can all say what we want, that is very obvious from these blogs. As far as liar….have you read anything about Obama? I mean, you will have to leave ABC, CNN, et al to find any real truth, but it’s out there. Read about his early days in Chicago. I don’t think poeple realize who is about to become POTUS, and that’s the really scary thing! He’s dangerous in his rhetoric, and it’s being bought hook, line and sinker. I guess we will all see things clearly around Sept/Oct when the stuff comes piling out of his closets…. we don’t know him yet, but we will then.
Posted by: D | June 24, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Mary,
Come on now – questionable background? Compared to the Clintons? Come on, now.
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Angie that’s because you will be cheering for the next fake that fools you into believing the hope and change slogan that is wearing thin by now. he’s just a typical politician that would say anything to win. you can take that to the bank.
Posted by: Persio | June 24, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
cloud123
The world is more complicated than you apparently understand!
Posted by: T | June 24, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Of course, Pelosi helped engineer Obama’s campaign because she didn’t want to share her power with another woman! Plain and simple — even Obama kids should be able to understand it!
Say no to Pelosi, Dean and company!
Posted by: T | June 24, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Pelosi should stick to making all the laws she does for the gays and illegals. If in fact there was any sexism she or many of her kind would not be holding any office. Pot calling the kettle black as we all know most women care less then idiots like hillary are they just vote because for her because they are sexists.
Cry babies, when women or blacks do not get their way or lose they have to blame it on the poor white guy who does nothing but work his whole life and die for them
Posted by: JR | June 24, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
How about that utterly ridiculous-looking “Obama Seal” he was recently putting on his speaking podium. I mean, honestly, just how self-absorbed and narcissistic is this guy?? But hey, people like Anderson Cooper, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Mark Halperin, (and way too many more to list), and all his enthralled followers are just feeding into this guy’s love affair with himself.
It would seem Jeffrey Toobin applied his “deranged narcissism” remark to the wrong person. But, whatever, I wasn’t ever thinking of voting for the guy anyhow.
Posted by: Scott | June 24, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Damn straight Angie,
There are 18 million of us too. . .proud to support Obama. If you Hill supporters think we will flock to her if her supporters turn their back on Obama, you are in for a rude surprise. If it is McCain in ’08, we will work our hearts out to make sure it is not Hill in ’12, but if it is, then for McCain in ’12.
Posted by: JD | June 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Anyone who doesn’t think sexism isn’t alive and well in this country isn’t paying attention, or reading the news. It is not as blatant as at the time when women could not vote, for example, but the less obvious, taken-for-granted mind set is really worse to deal with.
So I do have a bias against Obama. He is just another male chauvinist. Of course he doesn’t think he really is but that makes his condescending attitude more difficult to take, not easier. And as long as that is the attitude our “leaders” take, they are doomed to fail in their efforts for hope and change.
Posted by: Kasha | June 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
D,
I am from Chicago and trust, there is nothing more shameful than the Clintons, not even Nixon. No other presidency has had the Clinton’s misspeaks. I am a 55 year-old woman and I do not need to do research or watch television to learn about the Clintons. I lived through their scandals.
BTW, I voted for Bill twice. I guess some people, myself included, never learns.
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
When you are black, sexism is irrelevant.
Posted by: jack | June 24, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Persio,
Can I get you a doctor?
Posted by: jack | June 24, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Obama has all that money–and no integrity.
His biggest political tactic is free…playing the race card.
Posted by: riley | June 24, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Nancy sweetie Pelosi is a traitor to our country. I would have her arrested and imprisoned in Gitmo.
Posted by: Pelosi is a traitor | June 24, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
It’s fascinating that women believes that all women should vote for Hillary, but all blacks should not vote for Obama.
Fascinating!
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
So Nancy says Hillary may run again, does that signal that Obama won’t be elected in November?
Posted by: tiredtoo | June 24, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
I have never seen any other political contest where there have been so many sore losers, sour grapers, whiners, blamers and misrepresenters (so as not to say liars). As a Latino female who is senior citizen, I resent the inference that I support Sen. Obama because I have drunk some kool aid or swallowed some story line. I support and voted for him because, among many other things, unlike Hill, he did not cheat by leaving his name on the ballot and then later explain that it didn’t matter anyway and later again wanted to claim all the votes (and did claim them)since only Her name was on the ballot and finally used all those votes to boast that she had won the popular vote…hogwash! She didn’t step out of the race because of the DNC…she stepped out because all her surrogates, the people she needs in the future if she wants to run for anything again told her that enough was enough…it was over…and even then, she was churlish and gauche and had to be told again, by her top level supporters to “knock it off”. Yes, there was sexism and there was racism…but while Sen. Obama never used the sexism, Hill was quick to point out that he could never win with hard-working white men (as opposed to lazy blacks and latinos?).
Regardless, I firmly believe that Clintonites don’t want to see the truth. No matter, they are not Democrats and I hope Sen. Obama will be our next president in spite of the whining and bellyaching of Hill’s henchmen who with their inane slogan: Party Unity My Axx (PUMA) bludgeon the party that is committed to returning our loved ones from a war that was sanctioned by the vote of many Republicans and at least one Democrat (Hill) who later groused she was misinformed.
I am glad that many women who are leaders in various fields and who supported Hill are now committed to supporting the Democratic Party…among them Ms. Malcolm of Emily’s List.
For those who will never vote for Sen. Obama…do what you will…That’s the beauty of this wonderful Country. My hope is that this great Country have many more people committed to party unity than to narrow-minded and spiteful exploits.
Posted by: elen | June 24, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
I think Hillary humiliated herself enough to last a life time!
And Pelosi should be impeached for taking impeachment off the table for Bush and Cheney!
I have no respect for either Hillary or Pelosi. Two strong women don’t mean they are the RIFHT women!
Posted by: Woman4Obama | June 24, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, John Edwards, and on and on and on, put the screws to the Clintons – and now they want both the former President and Hillary to endorse and campaign for St. Obama??? I don’t care if they kiss his butt on network TV, I will not vote for him! Ever!
Posted by: disgusteddem | June 24, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
elen
this is not time for soaring rhetoric… yu Obama people must wait for the election and the inauguration(if there is one) of Obama in 2009! you still cant forgo the process! you will be patient and if something happens betwen now and election day that causes Obama not be the president… you will accept it
Posted by: thinkingdem | June 24, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Hillary lost because she mismanaged her campaign. She was too arrogant and assumed she was some queen bee that could outsmart anyone else. She was wrong and she failed. Many woman jumped off the Hillary train after they watched her attempt to dehumanize her Democratic rival. The last straw for me was when I watched her hem and haw on 60 minutes and refuse to give a straight answer over whether Obama was a Muslim or not. I knew that I was not interested in a leader who was willing to play games and deceive the American public without giving it a second thought.
It didn’t help her that she was willing to outright lie over and over about running for cover and having to dodge sniper fire in Bosnia.
I then watched her as she tried to convince herself and her supporters that she was not winning for this reason and for that reason and every reason except looking in the mirror and being willing to take a bit of personal responsibilities for her own failings.
Did she have people in the media who where unfair to her? Probably, but how is that any different than for anybody else?
In the end, too many people decided that they wanted an honest candidate with integrity. That is not a quality that Hillary Clinton has.
Posted by: Eileen From Maine | June 24, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Pelosi is a disapointment and Obama is too inexperienced -that does not make them evil. Hillary, in my opinion is the best choice and I will write her name on the ballot in November. It is not just a vote for women but a vote for our nation. America is in trouble and the trouble is bigger than sixism or racism, however if we can move beyond these there will be no stopping us. We need at least 3 parties and 2 genders in power!
Posted by: beckyl | June 24, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Woman4Obama
at least you are right on Pelosi… yor arent right on Clinton andI can pass judgement on that! You are wrong!
Posted by: thinkingdem | June 24, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Allfemale: Answer to 2 of your posts.Ken Starr and the Repbs. spent 2 years and 40 million trying to get the Clintons to no avail.If you have info Ken didn’t get please call the FBI. No.2 92% of black WOMEN in Philly voted for Obama,racism or what?
Posted by: roncraw | June 24, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
beckyl
I agree
Posted by: thinkingdem | June 24, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Eileen
you are part of the elite map that starts in the new england and traces the bordwers around the country….. you hate the Clintons just to hate them you dont particulaly think Obama is the right one either! I can analyze you… you know Im right!
Posted by: thinkingdem | June 24, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
okay this is a notice to the hillary fans from pelosi saying you dont have to vote mccain to get hillary in 12′ she will run again..
i actually seen this coming ..lol
and i think its smart on both sides to come together as i have said before she is going to need us when she runs so all this puma talk and this im for hillary but wont vote obama is going to keep the fuel burning and end up under hillarys feet as well.
Posted by: melissa | June 24, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Roncraw,
99% of black people voted for white politicians all their lives – racism or what?
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Roncraw,
I can’t say it was to no avail, Bill Clinton did get impeached.
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
allfemale He wasn’t impeached,get better info. And 99% of blacks never voted in any election.
Posted by: roncraw | June 24, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
AllFemale…my apologies. From Chicago, so you know. That’s how ya’ll roll I guess. It’s up to the rest of us suckers to learn how it’s done…on the DL.
I voted for Bill twice as well, and I miss him…I truly do. I had a GREAT time in the 90′s. I am in my 40′s and remember it all very well, and Bill’s antics didn’t phase me after the Big Bush’s reign of terror. I will take stains on interns dresses over Iran?Contra any day of the week. I had money in my pocket when Bill was in the House.
Posted by: D | June 24, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
“I think that the reason that the Congress is at an all time low in the confidence of the American people is that we did not end the war,” the Speaker said.”
Or it could be the FACT that Pelosi took impeachment off the table! Does she think Americans are stupid? Pelosi has lost any respect whatsoever among Democrats!
No more Clinton/Bush legacies, Its OVER!
Posted by: Mark | June 24, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
beckyl,
I agree with you, except for one thing..
I’m not writing-in Hillary’s name; I’m voting FOR John McCain. It will be worth the wait for Hillary in 2012.
Best wishes!
Posted by: Scott | June 24, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
madam pelosi – you sold Hillary down the river. I would love nothing more than send you home. You, Dean and Reid destroied the democratic party with your nominee and shaby deals. You have done NOTHING for the American people in 2 years.
Posted by: ex-democrat | June 24, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
allfemale You missed my point totally,they choose race over gender. Tell me what race did 99% of blacks vote for a white When it involved a women and a black man.
Posted by: roncraw | June 24, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
GOP sends out their wolves in sheep clothing in packs today??
I know in my heart of hearts that no true Democrat, one who CARES about issues facing all of us would vote McCain over Obama!
Posted by: sai.mati | June 24, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
sai.mati
Then you totally underestimate the depth of the disgust with Bo. Face it, it’s reality. I would show you my voter registration card to prove it if I could.
Posted by: D | June 24, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
yea and the whole impeachment thing-
if they could impeach clinton for having sex with another women other than his wife SURELY they can impeach bush…
Posted by: melissa | June 24, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
It will be funny to watch that the million and 1/2 small donors don’t pay any more money to for Obama’s general election campaign.
Posted by: Rajesh | June 24, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Nancy Pelosi isn’t fit to be mentioned in the same sentence with Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: GregAugusta | June 24, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Perhaps you should quit tryig to be a pundit and try to do what you promised to do. Get us out of Iraq, get rid of illegal wiretapping, and provide health care for everyone. The when you can do this maybe you would have the bona fides to talk about hillary running again.
Posted by: lord of war | June 24, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
I wish people would quit trying to say what a true democrat is. Obama vs McCain is only one race. I will continue to vote for democrats in my senate and house seats and for my state offices.
Posted by: lordy lordy | June 24, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
melissa: You don’t know any more about impeachment that you do the other tripe you spout. For instance, Clinton wasn’t being impeached for having sex! Your posts certainly attest to the fact that you’re an opinionated, bigoted and narrow minded idiot!
Posted by: A | June 24, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
D.
How sad you would prefer McCain the WAR MONGER over a peaceful Obama.
You know there are children who have died, Mothers who have been blown to pieces because of this stupid war, People don’t care about that, do they? Or do they easily forget?
Posted by: sai.mati | June 24, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
There was lots of sexism and racism in the primary is this supposed to be new information?
Posted by: gilesjp | June 24, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
sai.mati: Peaceful Obama? The guy who said he’d bomb Pakistan? The guy who has now all but aligned himself with Bush’s Iraq policy?
What in the world are you thinking? Do you even try to stay informed on current events?
Posted by: A | June 24, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
A
You are being a bit untruthful in your claims.
Posted by: sai.mati | June 24, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
a: I agree with most of what you say but try to be a little more civil.
Posted by: roncraw | June 24, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
…I’m the victim of sexism myself. But I think it goes with the territory. I don’t sit around…..
Pelosi, you, yourself who prefers man over woman.
You don’t sit around because you are the dictator boss.
Posted by: catleya | June 24, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
She may run again..
When you are retired
Posted by: catleya | June 24, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
“It is sexism that a large part of Hillary’s supporters were voting for her because she is a woman and not a man.” Jake, that is a huge assumption and generalization on your part. Don’t be daft. You couldn’t possibly know all 18 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Jeff | June 24, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
All men in my family voted for Hillary .
so???
Posted by: catleya | June 24, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Ron Craw:
The point that All Female made was that blacks vote for whites all the time. Her point was Not that 99% of anyone voted in any particular election. You don’t get that type of participation from any group in any American election, ever!
Moreover, Bill Clinton WAS impeached. Impeachment is simply the House of Representatives handing up to the Senate an indictment. The Senate has the responsibility of convicting and thus removing from office. The Senate found Bill Not guilty of the House Impeachment (i.e. indictment). So you are mistaken; he was Impeached.
Also, it is neither sexism that Women voted in record numbers for Hillary, nor is it racism that African Americans voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. There has never been a women or a black man seriously considered for President in this country, because of sexism and racism. So when the electorate (starting with overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire) indicated that it was finally seriously considering a qualified woman and a qualified black man, the historical significance of this proved far too overwhelming for women and blacks to vote otherwise. You can argue that the voting of women and blacks represents the enduring legacy of sexism and racism in our country, but the voting itself is neither sexist nor racist.
Posted by: Calm Down | June 24, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Calmdown. The Repb controled congress spen t most of there time trying to impeach Clinton and I’m not mistaken had he been impeached he would have been removed from office.Wow Obama got 63,000 votes you call that a mandate. Caucuses are a joke.
Posted by: roncraw | June 24, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Calm Down, I enjoyed your post but I must correct you on one point: you called Obama “qualified”. He is not.
Posted by: disgusteddem | June 24, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
typo on word there (their) and in Iowa he got 63,000. You just rewrote the rules of impeachment by stating Clinton was impeached yet still stayed in office.What a fool I am.
Posted by: roncraw | June 24, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
‘It’s a given’? Women are eternal victims? Yes, that’s a given, they seem to bask in their collective ‘victimness’. Sexism is a two way street. Women publically and privately bash men 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. If you can’t take it; I suggest you don’t dish it.
Posted by: therockofages | June 24, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Is Pelosi announcing she is the boss and has decided Hillary may run since it’s OK with her? Or is she sounding the warning? Either way she has such an inflated ego. “Most Powerful Woman in the World” is probably scrolled on her mirror. She is disgusting.
Posted by: Donna Davidson | June 24, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Pelosi needs to keep her wrinkled up yap shut. She now praises Hillary now that she is out of the race.
Posted by: J | June 24, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Roncraw,
Get your facts staight, Clinton was impeached.
President of the United States Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999. The charges, perjury and obstruction of justice, arose from the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the Paula Jones law suit. The trial proceedings were largely party-line, with no Democratic Senators voting for conviction and only five Democratic Representatives voting to impeach. In all, 50 senators voted “not guilty,” and 50 voted “guilty” on the obstruction charge. The Senate also acquitted on the charge of perjury with 55 votes cast as “not guilty,” and 45 votes as “guilty.” It was only the second impeachment of a President in American history, following the impeachment of Andrew Johnson in 1868
Posted by: AllFemale | June 24, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Posted by: AllFemale |
What Bush has done was far worse. They should have tried impeaching him!
Posted by: J | June 24, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
MCBUSH in 12 you have to be telling one wooper of a joke and Becky you must have your brains in your big toe. Come on everybody rather than vote for MCBUSH or a slum lord lawyer write or type in HIllary
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | June 24, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
It seems the candidates are already picked why bother with the waste of time and money for a convention
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | June 24, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
It seems the candidates are already picked why bother with the waste of time and money for a convention
Posted by: Rose Szymanski
How right you are!
Posted by: J | June 24, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Before Obama declared his victory Pelosi’s face was so dull and unhappy.
The next day after he declared, Pelosi showed up on tv and her face was so bright, tight with no wrinkles and smiled liked she won a big lottery.
Posted by: catleya | June 24, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Posted by: catleya
Reminds of that commercial with Joan Rivers where she can’t feel her face….lmao
Posted by: J | June 24, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Nancy, would you be fair and see to it that Hillary’s name is on the ballot in November with her 1639.5 pledged delegates? After all, Dean was on the ballot in 2004 with only 167.5 pledged delegates (imagine that!) and Teddy Kennedy was on the ballot in 1980 with 1000 pledged delegates less than Carter. Let’s be FAIR, Nancy!
You and the DNC are full of it if you think we will ever “get over it.” Not gonna happen.
Posted by: misspris | June 24, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Disgusteddem:
Conservative columunist, commentator, and author George Will said Barack Obama was qualified, why do you think not?
Ron Craw:
You are Not a fool, however you make the same mistake that I used to make and that many people make. Impeachment does Not mean you are automatically removed from office. The House of Representatives is the only body that has the constitutional power to impeach. Impeachment is simply an indictment of charges. A simple majority of Representatives has to vote that the charges are warranted. If they do this constitutes an impeachment. It is no different than a prosecutor asking a judge or a grand jury for an indictment. An indictment does Not make you guilty and put you automatically behind bars. The indictment must me argued before a jury, which alone has the power to convict.
Likewise an impeachment (an indictment by another name)works the same. The House of Rep. brought charges against Clinton (All Female stated what they were). Representative Henry Hyde (Rep. Illinois) argued the Impeachment that House brought before the jury. The jury was the United States Senate, which alone has the constitutional authority to convict a sitting president and remove him from office. 66 Senators (2/3) must vote to convict. As we all know that didn’t happen. Therefore Clinton was acquitted. However he was Impeached (i.e. charged with a crime/indicted by the House of Representatives). To say that he wasn’t impeached because he wasn’t removed from office is the same as saying a criminal defendant who is acquitted was never indicted to begin with.
Posted by: Calm Down | June 24, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
what a croc!! NOW Pelosi sticks up for her? how hypocritical…..
who cares what she thinks, she’s another turncoat.
Not only should hillary run again – SHE SHOULD RUN IN AUGUST AND CONVINCE THE SUPER DELEGATES THAT SHE IS THE ELECTABLE ONE.
The democrats got this election WRONG.
and they will pay with my vote for McCain.
Posted by: nan | June 24, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
The not democratic party sold Hills down the river..The elites and old boy network..Well guess you gonna get what dean and pelosi wanted all along….a suit with out substance .and a whole lot of blame when he doesnt win ..
Posted by: alice | June 24, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Calm Down,
We are talking about sexism and Hillary Clinton get defeated because of SExism media and Democratic party leaders. what Bill’s impeachmenent has to do with this topic ?
Go and get some coffee. you better SHUT UP
Posted by: Abdirazak Ali | June 24, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Obama won the popular vote! Meaning MORE people wanted Obama than Hillary!!!
HillsBells should take another LONG vacation away from politics! Perhaps she can take up a cooking class or something like that!
Posted by: EliteDemocrat | June 24, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Alice,
Democratic party leaders prefer to loose general election instead of giving the nominee Hillary. many party leaders are dishonest and deas not like woman in power like Pelosi, Kennedy and Bill Richardson. some of them support Obama because of their poloitical interest. look Bill Richardson, he supported Obama not for party interest but his own interest.
do not get me wrong i am big supportor of Obama (now)
Posted by: Abdirazak Ali | June 24, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Grow up please. The country is a mess and this sounds like a bunch of kids fighting. I am a black woman and I was thrilled to see a black man and a woman as the candidates. I never really warmed to Obama as I never thought he really spoke to me as a voter. I don’t like some things about Mrs. Clinton but I think she is the only person running that could fix this mess that eight years of Bush policies have left us in. The treatment of Mrs. Clinton by the men in the DNC really shocked me and left a bad taste in my mouth.
Obama is a better choice than Mccain, any Democrat is a better choice than any Republican. However, I still don’t feel enthusiastic about the race. I would have felt the same if the DNC had treated Obama the way they treated Hilary. For all of you who don’t want a third Clinton term I ask “Why?” We were all doing pretty well back then. Some people have really short memories!
Posted by: Dee | June 24, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Elite D,
Democratic party are the party of Jackson, Jefferson, Kennedy and Clinton.
youcan not write of Clinton now. Democratic can not win without Bill Clinton. Bill helped many congress and senetor to get elected including Obama and Edwards.
it is very wrong for you to say Bill needs vacation. some idiot people want erase Clinton’s legacy in politics and they kep saying ” lets end up Clinton’s era”. you are one of them.
SHUT UP AND COOK SOME DINNER YOUR PATRNER
Posted by: Abdirazak Ali | June 24, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Dee,
you are right.
Those of who oppsoe Clintons please answer the question of Ms. Dee or SHUT UP
Posted by: Abdirazak Ali | June 24, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Is Obama turning out to be a bright, bright moment for you too, Nancy? It’s so obvious that he knows nothing about politics. Senator Clinton has studied for years. NOBAMA
Posted by: priscilla | June 24, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Anyone, especially women, who say there was not sexism during this campaign has never come face to face with it. And obviously is too young to even understand what it is. And it dosen’t matter whether you were a Hillary supporter or not. MSNBC was the worst.And Pelosi is a disgrace. And the dynasty theroy goes out the window when Ted and Caroline Kennedy threw their support behind Obama. Now that’s a dynasty.
Posted by: Bea | June 24, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Hey Ali Baba,
Take a sleeping pill or something. You have your opinions and I have mine, Its called free speech so dont be telling people to SHUT UP, That is very rude.
The Clinton’s have just as much baggage as Bush! They are like two peas in a pod!
Posted by: EliteDemocrat | June 24, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I agree with Soretoro No!
People need to get over white guilt and vote for the best candidate not the black one. Sad that that’s what they’re pressured to do….
Posted by: i agree | June 24, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Pelosi is a disgrace.
And so are Reid, Kennedy, Dean. They act like mafias and disgust voters.
We will vote for McCain just because these four are still in the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Jkan | June 24, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Clintons:
Budget Surplus, strong economy, strong dollar, record home ownership, record success in minority and women owned businesses, $ 1 / gallon of gas, protected environment, no wars, any conflicts finished and with support of other countries, America in good standing with the rest of the world.
Bush:
Just reverse all that I said above.
If you don’t like the Clinton’s that is fine there are plenty of reasons not to, but to compare them to Bush is simply incorrect.
Telling you to shut up was rude, but calling him Ali Baba is much worse as you are attacking him on race and that is disgusting.
Clinton and Obama have the same values and policies so if you don’t like the Clintons then you don’t like Obama. Everyone has baggage, nobody is perfect, not even OMG OBAMA!!!!!! In a few years Obama will have all the same baggage and more.
Anyhow, this is silly, sitting here saying Obama is this and Hilary is that. Maccain is the problem, as is the Republican party, and if we keep this up the come November we will be wondering, once again, what the hell happened as we watch another Republican enter the White house.
Posted by: Dee | June 24, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
The DNC, the Republicans, and Big Oil WAR MONEY played a significant role in the campaign. It wasn’t about sexism or racism and you know it. That’s what you and the pandering media wish we believed. Neither would I say that Senator Clinton lost- I’d say America lost. You and I know and now everybody else knows what a sharade this has been. You thought everyone was as naive as the beachball playing college crowd? The DNC and Republican’s conniving scheme snuck up on us like a thief in the night. 4 more years of the big wigs sucking the life out of the peasants and the earth. Are you pleased? We swore we wouldn’t let this happen again. I haven’t given up yet- Now, put Hillary Clinton’s name on the ballot where it should be! Nobama is a Republican puppet and so are you.
Posted by: priscilla | June 24, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Elite D,
my apology. Clintons are the best leaders. if you disaggree then you liked the last seven years of Bush’s presedidency
Posted by: Abdirazak Ali | June 24, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Watch very carefully what is going on….Did you notice Harry Reid standing next to Hillary today when she returned? All of a sudden Pelosi wants to sound like Hillary’s best friend? What a joke, can you say “manipulate the media and the woman vote.” Not this one! I will never vote for someone who bought his way into the job and has no experience.
Posted by: PumaWoman | June 25, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
PELOSI HELPED DESTROY HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN.
OBAMA WAS “SELECTED” — NOT “ELECTED”.
VOTE McCAIN IN 2008.
Posted by: TOKYO-ROSE-PELOSI | June 25, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
Obama will deliver….but what will it be? He speaks of change and hope. I think he’s hopeless. He has based his entire campaign on lies.
He will deliver higher taxes, socialist agenda, and make us a wimpy laughing stock. I am not a McCain devotee either; however, so far…as an independent…he has proven more to me.
Obama has not been truthful to the American people. I question his judgment. I have seen nothing from Obama yet except catchy phrases designed on emotion. There is nothing different than the same old rhetoric that I have heard since I could vote.
The only true statesman has been Ronald Reagan.
I WILL VOTE McCAIN IN 2008.
Posted by: ANYBODY BUT OBAMA | June 25, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
DUMB OBAMABOTS THINK IF OBAMA LOSES IT WILL BE H.R. CLINTONS FAULT.
IF HE LOSES, THEY WILL SAY IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE RACIST ELEMENT IN AMERICA
IF HE LOSES, THEY WILL BLAME H.R. CLINTON WHETHER IT IS HER FAULT OR NOT.
IF HE LOSES, THEY WILL BLAME THE PUMA PAC AND THAT WE WILL BE MOST HAPPY ABOUT.
OBAMA WILL LOSE BECAUSE OF THE WAY H.R. CLINTON WAS TREATED BY THE DNC, THE RBC, THE
MEDIA, THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND THE MISOGYNIST; AND WE HER SUPPORTERS WILL MAKE SURE OF
THAT OBAMA LOSES, BY EITHER NOT VOTING IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, OR VOTING FOR MCCAIN.
MANY OF OBAMBOTS CLAIM THEY WILL NOT SUPPORT HER IF SHE RUNS FOR THE PRESIDENCY IN 2012, BUT WE SAY WHO CARES, SO WHAT; CLINTON WILL PROBABLY NOT RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY AGAIN ANYWAY.
OUR MOTTO IS, H.R. CLINTON LOST THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
BUT B.H. OBAMA WILL LOSE THE PRESIDENCY
BUT, THEY WILL NEVER BLAME OBAMA’S LOSE ON HIS MALARKEY, HIS UGLY SEAL (LOL) HE DUMB A** IDEAS ABOUT CHANGE AND HIS LACK OF JUDGEMENT AND EXPERIENCE.
COME VISIT AND JOIN PUMA PAC
Posted by: TerryDo | June 25, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean have lost my respect. They have hardened my disgust with Obama. We know McCain well but not the DNC nominee. My vote will not be for him but rather against Obama. I just don’t trust him.
Posted by: neut | June 25, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
This is not about sour grapes. I have been a Democrat for 25 years, and I do not even recognize the Democratic party at this time. WHO ARE THEY? AND WHAT DO THEY STAND FOR?
I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA AND HIS FLIP FLOPPING WAYS- NO THANK YOU.
I will vote for McCain because I do trust him. Don’t forget, most Republicans were very upset that he won because he was not conservative enough for them.
McCain has always been one to cross party lines and work with both sides. McCain 2008-No Problem!! NO BAMA-NO WAY.
Posted by: Katie | June 25, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Jack, thanks for the generosity but i got my own doctor. How about offering one to the many Obama fanaticals in here, they sure seem like they need it. Oops sorry ur probably one of them!
Posted by: persio | June 25, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Duh. The genius weighs in after robbing Clinton of the nomination with her prioritizing of delegates over the popular vote and electability. Of course Clinton is running again. In 2012, when McCain is done being a one-termer. General election losers do not run again; they are never wanted.
Posted by: SullivanGrandfield | June 25, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Love the PR. Impeachment off the table,
ALLTIME Lowest congressional approval rating,
Nancy needs to get a backbone.
By your silence you gave a stamp of approval to the misnomer that women are second class citizens.
I will not vote for a hypocrital party that supposedly chanpions women and their issues. I WILL NOT GET OVER IT>
Posted by: Who Knows So What Who Cares | June 25, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Pelosi is a disgrace and a hypocrit. She lacks any shred of integrity or truth. Pelosi is the biggest panderer I have seen in politics. She has no business holding the position she does. She is totally ineffective, incompetent and lacking anyting resembling “smarts”. Get her out of there- send her back to California with her tail between her legs. She couldn’t even get that no teeth EPA bill passed with a democrtatic majority at her feet. What a pandering liar.
Posted by: this election counts | June 25, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Pelosi is DNC’s disaster!
Posted by: Dallas voter | June 25, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
this is for becky who s say s obama is a liar how about sniper fire hillary,i think nafta is working great hillary,my husband did not sleep withthat women hillary,i brought peace to ireland hillary,my 35 year s exp hillary now who s the liar
Posted by: show me | June 26, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
this is for becky who s say s obama is a liar how about sniper fire hillary,i think nafta is working great hillary,my husband did not sleep withthat women hillary,i brought peace to ireland hillary,my 35 year s exp hillary now who s the liar
Posted by: show me | June 26, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Pelosi, Obama and the DNC stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back.
Many of us who are former Hillary supporters are leaning toward McCain for his experience.
We also realize that there is a Democratic controlled congress that needs to do their job! Congress has been playing the blame game for far too long. Many of them need some classes on how to work together for the best “interest of the people”.
I am NOT VOTING for Obama because he lacks experience. I also question his character based on his flipflops and how he stayed at Trinity for 20 years and claimed he did not know Rev Wright afterall. Obama threw Grandma under the bus and is now using her for an ad on his wholesome American upbringing in Kansas. He will say or do anything to get elected. Obama is a clever politician with a calculating campaign manager.
Obama stated that he would debate McCain anywhere, anytime — except townhall meetings — where Obama can’t be scripted.
I am NOT looking for someone who reads a good speech — I am looking for the content of his knowledge and experience — when he has to think on his feet!
McCain has proven he loves America enough to die for us. He has two sons fighting for us now.
McCAIN IN 2008.
Posted by: TOKYO-ROSE-PELOSI | June 26, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am