Jun 16, 2008 7:54am
Pfleger Back At Work
Back at work after an involuntary Cardinal-induced vacation will Sen. Obama’s controversial friend continue to make headlines?
- jpt
Back at work after an involuntary Cardinal-induced vacation will Sen. Obama’s controversial friend continue to make headlines?
- jpt
why is this news?… nothing has happened.
Posted by: matt w. | June 16, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Just a reminder of the bad judgement Obama continues to show.
Posted by: Steve | June 16, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
And despite the promises of retiring on June 1, Rev. Wright still has not resigned from the church Obama attended for 20 years and quit on May 31.
Hmmmm…so that´s why Obama quit the church, because Rev. Wright wasn´t going to leave as Obama said.
Posted by: Sally Frank | June 16, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
John McCain says its tough to be proud of the USA…
From Politico:
So a man finally got a question into McCain and he had a very different sort of question.
The questioner noted that he had been educated at Princeton and Harvard and made more than $300,000 a year.
“How can I be proud of my country?” he asked.
“I’ll admit to you that it’s tough, it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said, seeming to lend credence to Michelle Obama’s observation.
McCain said America needed to be “more humble, more inclusive.”
He observed that one of the ways to be proud of the country was to look at our history — and the sacrifices U.S. troops have made abroad.
McCain let his questioner follow up and the individual repeated, but didn’t clarify, his line.
In closing, McCain said he was proud of America in part “because of you and what you’ve been able to achieve and accomplish.”
Posted by: John | June 16, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Rev Wright & Pastor Pfleger = Pastor Hagee & Pastor Parsley
Michelle Obama “proud” comments = McCain “proud” comments
Obama’s policies > McCain policies
Problem solved
Posted by: Vanessa | June 16, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
what about McCains judgement?
Yesterday, John McCain cancelled his attendance at a fundraiser with Clayton Williams, who gave the following advice to rape victims: “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
McCain’s campaign cited that remark as the reason for his cancellation.
But it turns out that Williams had already raised $300,000 for McCain — and now McCain says he is keeping it all.
What he should do is take that $300,000 and donate it to a violence against women crisis and prevention center.
By taking the cash, McCain is exposing himself as a total fraud — clearly, the only reason he cancelled the event was to avoid bad press. Will the press let Teflon John get away with another slick move?
Posted by: judgement | June 16, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
That’s OK, this “headline” in nothing, over on CNN, they have a big headline on their “Ticker” saying: “Report says women (plural) will back Obama,” and you go to the story and it’s ONE woman in North Carolina who’s saying she used to support Hillary, but will now vote for Obama.
I’d like to see one of these networks with a headline about all of the groups that are forming to protest the DNC in Denver in August, who are NOT voting Obama. Of ocurse there might not be a convention if the DNC can’t raise enough money to pay for it.
Posted by: Lee | June 16, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
eh…. what’s the news here, Jake?
Don’t tell me this blog is about turning politics into tabloid chatter. If it does it will certainly lose track of the level Obama is at in changing the American political landscape.
Do we really have to turn to European newspapers for serious and elaborated reflections on what’s happening in America these days?
Sad.
So, father Pfleger said last Sunday… YAWN.
Posted by: greg | June 16, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Lee
The reason the networks aren’t covering ‘all of these groups” gathering… that you want them to…
is they are a lot fewer than you would like to think in the scheme…and not really original.
Lots of groups have formed over the years right after the primary was won by a candidate by people who backed the other candidates.
It happens almost every election in similar numbers…and it almost always doesn’t effect the election unless the candidate they were backing felt the same way.
There is a time to focus on news and issues… and not focus on the small group who is acting predominantly out of waning spite.
There are too many people’s lives and our standing in the world…and our countries position standing on a precipice of going down the same mistake (s) we made over the past 8 years…on that same road…with the same decisions …
and unfortunately our country won’t recover if we have another 4 or 8 years of that road.
No matter how many want to spin it otherwise.
The road McCain proposes (like the speeches he and Lieberman gave in front of AIPAC about Iran matching almost exactly his words to them before we went into the war in Iraq on behalf of the Bush administration…we could not have gone into that wat without their support and can’t war against Iran without it again)
This is a bad road.
That also has not been covered by the news.
Posted by: dl | June 16, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Father Pfleger–Obama’s “moral compass”
My biggest concern about Obama is his judgement.
He has a pattern of associating with the same kind of people with a common theme–they are radical and hate America.
Michelle–America is mean
Wright/Trinity–God Damn America
Pfleger–America is a sin
Ayers–terrorist/stomps the flag
Others?
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 16, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Please keep Tim Russert in mind and stop this nonsense, JT. You know very well that a political phenomenon like Barack Obama deserves better than this. Don’t focus on lice and mice when an American eagle is in full sight. The grey seagull flying way below him at half his speed is called McNasty.
Posted by: hasselblad | June 16, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
it is so wonderful, obama is just about the most perfect presidential candidate
i have ever seen.
with obama as president it going to be great.
he is just about flawless,
and if anyone says anything different about him, I WILL DISPUTE WITH THEM UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME,
anyone who would say anything is wrong with sen. obama, is just showing how bad they are.
He is a great man, and he is here trying to help, and anyone who would say anything about him, is just flawed, and to be put in their place.
sen. obama is better than any of the other politicians.
Posted by: obama girl | June 16, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
John, I totally agree with Sen. McCain. I am very proud of the United States of America. But am I proud of every moment that has occurred since the ratification of the U. S. Constitution? No! There are many instances where I wish things had been executed differently or not at all. Right now I am not proud that God is banned from our public schools and symbols honoring Him can no longer be exhibited in most of our government buildings. But in spite of that, I still love my country very much!
Posted by: James Danley | June 16, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
One of the most troubling things about Pfleger, Wright and the crew is that Obama’s candidacy seems to have emboldened them to spout their hate. Far from keeping quiet until their associate gets elected, they seem so positively giddy with his candidacy that they seem to feel they have the big green light to spew their hate, and racist anger. I am all for social justice and equality, but I’m all against those who hate while using social justice as cover.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 16, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Pfleger is not the only indicator of how divisive and destructive an Obama regime would be.
Consider the experience Senator “Voted Present” Obama has.
Not much.
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate.
That’s how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.
143 days — I put off paying taxes longer than that.
In contrast, John McCain’s 26 years in Congress, 22 years of military service including 1,966 days in captivity as a POW in Hanoi now seem more impressive than ever.
At 71, John McCain is just hitting his stride.
Regardless of who I may or may not vote for, I will vote against the ultra-liberal, left-wing, radical change that Obama socialism/communism would entail.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Kennedy, Kerry–all out of the mainstream of America.
Kick ‘em all out and start over.
Posted by: Jayhawk | June 16, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
dl sez: “unfortunately our country won’t recover if we have another 4 or 8 years of that road”
Pushing the fear button again, dl? Not much change there.
The country will be fine. We’ll have a minority party president with an opposition Congress. If change is really what is on the horizon, it will start in Congress if Pelosi and Reid will quit blocking.
Spin as you will, they’ve had the power but they don’t make a difference with it. We do need a change. We need better leadership in the DNC.
Posted by: len | June 16, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
CNN based their analysis on recent polls suggesting Obama leads amongst women by 13… 51%-38%
The lead is expected to grow once Clinton’s bid for presidency fades.
The Unites States population is 300,000,000 +
100+ protestors?
Yeah =)
Posted by: Vanessa | June 16, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
I will vote for Obama because the GOP has been a disaster for the nation. Obama is much more right on the issues than McCain who has already pledged to continue several of Bush’s major mistakes. However, I will never understand how someone so incredibly inexperienced and with so many gaps in knowledge on the issues was pushed ahead so far, so fast. It’s almost like when a president nominates someone for the Supreme Court, he looks for someone with little traceable record. I think the party leadership looked at Obama the same way.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | June 16, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
If you trust polls, Obama is only a few points ahead of McCain.
Suggesting at least right now Hillary supporters are not giving him a big bounce. 15% undecided.
I am amazed that McCain can stay so close considering he isn’t very popular in his own party. He needs to appeal to conservatives but is afraid he’ll chase middle-of-roaders (like me) away.
McCain isn’t flashy or a great speaker, but I trust his experience,his record, and love of this country.
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 16, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Obama Supporters
Can you list 5 big bills he sponsored. Even 4/3/2/1.
Can you list even a 5 big bills he opposed. Even 4/3/2/1.
We are talking about the Leader of the free world to make a tough decision. We need a leader, not the follower.
All I could remember 120 PRESENT.
Posted by: john | June 16, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
CNN polls are wildly optimistic, Vanessa and the network is publicly biased for Obama, so don’t put much stock in information from CNN. Their cred as a news network evaporated.
The exit polls from the nomination campaigns showed clearly that people asked about Obama say publicly they support him then go to the booths and vote against him. The reason conjectured is fear of being called racist or bigot.
Given what we’ve seen here, that is not an unfounded fear.
It is a long way to November. Moods change like fashions. Obama has been wrong about a number of issues that will prove decisive at voting time. McCain only needs to stay on message.
Posted by: len | June 16, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
McCain only needs to stay on message.
Posted by: len | Jun 16, 2008 10:12:03 AM
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Little tough to follow what McCain’s message is, since he changes it everytime he speaks.
Posted by: jmc663 | June 16, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
i am glad obama will be president, america is going global, and this country is “browning”-biracial children are the best of all worlds, no matter the combo.
obama will help the country join the rest of the world.
I wonder if now that obama is dem. presidential nominee-(and anyone that knows this please answer)does he take over all of the plans that sen. clinton had. for instance, can he just take sen. clinton’ plan for healthcare? or how she as president was going to make college more affordable?
seems to me that would be stealing, but maybe he has a right to anything of her plans he likes now.
Posted by: obama girl | June 16, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
If so many people are flocking to Obama, how come the DNC is coming up millions of dollars short on their money?
Must be because of those 100 frustrated Hillary supporters who asked for their money back.
Posted by: Lee | June 16, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
john,
what does all of what you wrote matter?
obama as president will have people that are well trained to make the decisions that need to be made, and will not let him go wrong.
so all of that stuff you bring up is just past stuff. and does not matter now that obama will be president.
what did hillary clinton do for the country? how many bills did she pass?
what were her votes?
Posted by: obama girl | June 16, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
We all know Bush & Chaney are destroying this country.
If Obama supporters are not agreeing that SURGE did not work, they are doing disservice to the greatest nation and disservice to the greatest military in the world.
What did Obama do regarding Global Warming
What did Obama do to cut the Federal Government spending.
What did Obama do to show the leadership in the Senate.
The greatest nation on this planet is falling, if we do not fix not, no one could fix in the future and we will fall like Roman/British Empire.
Keep away the emotions and make independent decision to save this great country.
I support McCain because McCain is not Bush/McCain. I am an Independent and make Independent decision.
God Bless America
Posted by: seba | June 16, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
seba,
what did hillary do for global warming
what did hillary do to show leadership in the senate?
Posted by: obama girl | June 16, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
obama girl
I am not a Hillary supporter, I am an Independent.
Posted by: john | June 16, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Some people cannot stand to be told their truth. To most, patriotic is the one who always lavishes praise on you and is afraid to point out to you where you might be erring. It just beats me why you bother to go to school, or to go to church, if you are not prepared to be told how things really are, and how things should rather be. To the wise, true friend is the one who always tells it as it is, even when it hurts.
Posted by: Charitybegins@home | June 16, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
I wish McCain would send out a few strong women surrogates to stump for him…may help him attrack women voters.
He has Carly Fiorina who is very strong with economics and other areas.
She’ll have to be ready for the media.
The media and comics are after McCain like they were Hillary.
They seem to be afraid to attack Obama for fear of being called racist. Watch Leno, Conan, Kimmel, Letterman, etc. They will use Obama to set up a joke–then McCain/Hillary are always the punchline. I hope this backfires…
Posted by: cindy in nc | June 16, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Charity,
You are right on the mark with that one. But America has become a “victim society”. There is no sense of personal responsibility anymore. We allow our children to become obese and then sue McDonalds. WE just allow things to happen and then wonder how we got into the situation. American are just too lazy to make real changes to improve their lives.
Posted by: jmc663 | June 16, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
“American are just too lazy to make real changes to improve their lives.”
Tell that to the people manning the sandbags in Iowa.
Posted by: len | June 16, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
These polls weren’t done by CNN.
We’re speaking of the Gallup and Rasmusseen polls.
Obama leads by 13 in the Gallup poll amongst women and by 7 in the Rasmusseen poll.
He also has a 62-28 lead amongst hispanics
Obama is gaining ground on Hillary supporters. Contrary to what most have said.
The one area McCain leads is men which is why the polls are still tight.
As we get to know McCain stances on the very important issues Obama’s lead will widen.
I would expect McCain to lead in the polls after a hard fought battle within the Democratic party.
McCain had 2 months to boost his credentials and did nothing.
Posted by: Vanessa | June 16, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Obama authored exactly two bills in the US congress that got passed — one was to name a post office. He voted ‘present’ 129 times in the Illinois legislature.
Accomplished? I think not! A bag of hot air? Definitely!
Seems you really can fool some of the people all of the time.
Posted by: A | June 16, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Pfleger is a certifiable loonie, but I don’t think he can do much more damage to Obama than he has already done. I cannot imagine a sane person paying ANY attention to this crazy man. The only thing I don’t understand is why the Catholic Church hasn’t defrocked this wacko.
Posted by: Rhys | June 16, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
john,
what does that have to do with the fact that he beat hillary, and is now the dem. party’ pick for president?
obama is going to be president, inspite of the things you try to introduce into the mix. the dnc knew all of this, and they decided he is to be president, the voters decided,
so all of the past stuff is moot now.
obama will be president
Posted by: obama girl | June 16, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
dl:
You can spin, divert, and minimize the truth, but millions of us know what we’ve seen and heard from Obama and his wifw aqnd their most frequent and close associates over the last few years. We are so deeply offended and outraged we find it useless to debate the issue. Most of us are living real lives anyway, not debating with blind fanatics on the net, but we heard, we remember, and we vote.
Obama girl:
Words fail me. Is this satire? A parody of brain-dead, blind fanaticism?
Posted by: joe | June 16, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Rhys, you wrote: “I cannot imagine a sane person paying ANY attention to this crazy man (Father Pfleger).” Yet Sen. Obama paid attenton to him on numerous occasions in the past two decades!
Posted by: James Danley | June 16, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Hasselblad:
How dare you mention Tim Russert while asking us to back off of Obama. Russert would be the first one to pin him down on his long time associations, his voting record, and his past statements.
Prayers to Tim Russert’s family in this tragic time.
Posted by: joe | June 16, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
if you obama supporters really have to resort to questioning mccain’s patriotism, than you obviously have nothing to show for your own candidate.
Posted by: what | June 16, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I assume he will lie low and stay busy spending the “pork barrel” money that Obama sent him.
By the way don’t you think it’s relevant that Obama directed taxpayer money to the hospital his wife worked at and she received a pay raise of triple her salary…quid pro quo?
Posted by: Jackie | June 16, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
I bet Barry had to pull some strings to make that happen.
Posted by: Mack | June 16, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
If he continues to be himself, yes.
If he preaches the way the public finds most suitable, no.
I don’t think the public’s opinion should matter to him if he stands for what he has for the last 30 years. I think the real question is will his parish be able to take the heat of the public’s scrutiny.
Posted by: Genna | June 16, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Don’t care about Pfleger as much as the good Reverend Wright…..hasn’t someone uncuffed him and taken the gag out of this mouth yet. They must have thugs at his door 24/7. Same with Jessie and Sharpton…..Axlerod’s memo…”to all controversial angry high profile black men (and Michelle) – please stay out of the news until AFTER Nov. 3″ – Thanks, the Obama campaign.
Posted by: Debra | June 16, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Let’s face it, the Catholic church has had far more serious problems than Pfleger.
Posted by: Kat | June 16, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm