Pro-Clinton Group Ad to Superdelegates: “You’re Still Not Listening”

HILLARY 08!!!
If not McCain 08!!!

Yeah
they seem to forget that a lot of women (just about half) voted for Barack.
duh

This is a result of how Hillary Clinton was treated by her own party and the media who fixed the nomination and by the Obama supporters. When nasty people say and do nasty things it is not forgotten. Am contacting my US Representative today to tell him this. Also there is a backlash in Obama’s home state about Pfleger-particularly downstate.

Jake Hillary Clinton has only won the popular vote if you honor the certified results by the Secretaries of State. ie you believe in democracy.
If you want to decide which voes count and which don’t, you are Robert Mugabe and you should go live in Zimbabwe.
I can talk about how none of the caucuses should count because they disenfranchised millions of voters and there was rampent fraud in at least Texas with intimidation being stndard practice.
But the Secretaries of State decide that not me and not you Jake.
You either honor elections or you are a dictator.
There is no middle ground.
Hillary Cliton has won the popular vote by about 325,000 and that lead will continue to increase tonight.
Dems either want the white house or they don’t. If they don’t enough women will be happy to oblige and vote MC Cain or write in Clinton.

My new hero is Harriet Kristen-the older woman on video last Saturday going off about all the votes not being counted.
They may have kicked her out of the place, but they didn’t stop her from having her say.
I’ll never vote for Obama–his 20 years in a racist, anti-American church was a deal breaker. He showed poor judgement and no courage or character.
Hillary 08/2012 or McCain08

Are AA’s irrelevant? Well, since Lyndon Johnson democrats have lost the white vote; however, there is a particular group who came out in their rescue, who? Guess, African Americans. They vote 90% for the democrat candidate every election.
Who wins the white vote in Florida? Republicans. How democrats make up the difference? You guess, the very faithful African Americans.
Who wins the white vote in Pennsylvania? Republicans. How democras make up the difference? You gues, the loyal African Americans.
Who wins the white vote in Ohio? Republicans. How democrats make up the difference? You guess, the very same “irrelevant” people that do the trick in Florida and Pennsylvania.
THERE IS A LOT OF IGNORANCE: “Black voters wont swing the vote in any state. They are concentrated in red or blue states that aren’t changing.”

If not Hillary, then McCain.

Yep, the people have spoken, and their choice is Senator Obama. I wonder when it was decided that the rules didn’t apply to women? As a woman myself you would think I would have gotten a copy. . .

I hope Hillary goes back to Senate to run another day. McCain will be the next president and Obama will lose. And the Democratic Party has lost the trust and respect of women. I will never call myself a Dem again

Hey Thinking-I guess we’ll see won’t we?

And the media is still treating her unfairly.
The latest polls released prior to today’s primaries, that were conducted over the weekend, show Hillary 20+ in South Dakota, and Obama leading, but not even within the margin of error in Montana.
Yet all of the media outlets this morning are still saying he is favored to win both primaries.
These people hear what they want to hear, and do not listen to the warning bells. Obama has only won two primaries in almost three months, while Hillary has piled on win after win.
He is no longer the shining, golden candidate he was at the beginning of this campaign, and it’s about time the party realized this before they have another disaster on their hands come November.

How does the Clinton campaign and Hillary supporters get away with these blatant misrepresentations about the popular vote count? The nomination is decided on delegates – period. Even if Hillary were leading the vote total, which she is not, it wouldn’t matter. They’re really all a bunch of Bill-style sore/whiny losers.

unfortunately Hillary is still trying tio convince people that the rules do not poertain to her. No matter how you add it up, she looses….
Hopefully her supporters will realize that it is about the party winning in Nov and not about Obama and Clinton.

The latest polls released prior to today’s primaries, that were conducted over the weekend, show Hillary 20+ in South Dakota, and Obama leading, but not even within the margin of error in Montana.
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Even the Clinton Campaign dispute this!

The Dems have set up a ridiculous primary process and they are now reaping what they have sown. Caucuses (in both parties) should be eliminated. They have proven to be undemocratic, shutting out those who can’t get time off from work, are disabled, or who have responsibilities for children or elderly. They were tilted in favor of Obama’s constituency and that’s a fact. Superdelegates are a joke. This is not the democratic system I was always taught we have. Finally, the rule that AWARDS EXTRA DELEGATES to voting districts that have shown loyalty by consistently voting dem. over many years–what the heck is THAT all about? And think about which districts those might be? Minority, college towns, etc. Seems to me that little technicality favors Obama also. When women say this process has been unfair to Hillary, I think they should more properly state that it has been unfair, period. However, it seems that when a lot of the MALE politicians saw Obama had a chance, they gamed the system a bit to force her out. I disagree with Hillary on 100% of her positions, but I do think there are behind-the-scene forces that worked against her. Because she’s a woman? I’m a woman and I’ve been discriminated against….and I smell a rat here.

sandy…both candidates have been tained, Obama by Rev Wright and others, Hillary by her and Bill’s conduct …no one is free from discourse. The only way to prevent this doom of failure is top unite….OMG grow up everyone!!

Please women who are voting for Hillary for the gender issue…don’t tear down Barack Obama because Michigan and Florida representatives could not go by the rules. If Michigan and Florida did you would have a case, be upset with those reps. Do you really believe that alot of the discord you are displaying will get you anything positive? I am a women but would never vote for a “Clinton”, my vote is for who would be best for this country – not just for gender. When I hear the discord it just reminds be of hard core feminists. Hillary is a formidable candidate, but the country I believe is done with this dynasty.

give it a rest hillary supporters its over we have 4 months to beat mccain now if you dont want him as president than enough is enough come together unite support obama and lets beat mccain dont give the republicans another 4 years to really run this country in the ground we have the chance now to try and save our country before its too late i am a obama supporter and i have much respect for hillary and i was ready to vote for her if she won even though i was an obama supporter thats what real democrats do SUPPORT THE DEMOCRAT NOMONIEE

Thats why this is a delegate race not a popular vote contest due to primaries and caucuses. Hillary new the rules when she entered the contest and her campaign did not prepare for it. Thats not anyone’s fault but her campaign. These people who are making these claims and ads are not making Mrs. Clinton or women look very good.

Carl29 there are not enough of the AAs to make up the difference. You must not be paying attention. Even the hispanics out number the AAs now & they be votin’ for Hillary not BO. You need to recalculate.

@dl
Why are you writing that to me, go back read my posts.

thinking
just reinforcing what you said
sorry…hope it didn’t sound like I was challenging you

I think they are not listening…we will just vote in November and they will hear LOUD AND CLEAR!
NEVER EVER VOTE OBAMA! NEVER!

Will all of you Hillary people stop speaking on behalf of “women”? It is so utterly condescending and arrogant. Speak for yourself, do not claim to speak for me. There is no “women’s vote.” There is a “Hillary vote” and an “Obama vote”. Count this woman on Obama’s side.
If you don’t want to vote for Obama, fine, then stay home or vote for McCain. That’s your right. But don’t complain when McCain appoints Supreme Court judges who will overturn every policy and civil liberty that matter to us. Be bitter if you must, but you and the country will pay an extremely high price. That is a selfishness I cannot understand – letting anger cloud judgement. You will be condemnng our children to a Roberts court majority for the next 30 years – goodbye Roe, goodbye habeaus corpus, goodbye enviromental protections, goodbye social programs…Go ahead, vote for McCain.

SOURCES:
SOURCES TELL SOURCES THAT SUPE DELEGATES SHOULD NOT BE DETERRED BY THIS UNPATRIOTIC FEMINIST TALK ABOUT ‘WILL OF THE PEOPLE’. SOURCES POINT TO THE EXCELLENT SCREW THE VOTE EXERCISE THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE WEEKEND. SOURCES SHOW HOW WASY IT WAS TO IGNORE THE ‘VOTES’ AND THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

To say that Obama is Presidential material because he won more PLEDGED DELEGATES from CAUCUSES is like saying he is the STRONGER candidate because he wins at WIENER AND MARSHMALLOW ROASTS. Please note that there are NO CAUCUSES in the General Election. He is in no way the STRONGER candidate, and any SUPER DELEGATE with any intelligence and politcal savvy at all knows that full well. The Convention should be all action-packed drama, kiddies, with Obama being just a big WIENER. As someone once said of the former baseball slugger Reggie Jackson, “There’s not enough mustard in this world to cover that hot dog.” And the same applies to Obama.

HP Boston
You are not original…people say this every election…go look at Bill’s numbers during the primary of “defections” people sooo angry their candidate did not win the primary (with Bill they had a lot worse things to say than they are saying about Obama…if you’ll remember…all the crap duering that primary…only difference is his opponents put the issues over their own candidacy)
but Bill had tons of people saying he was “vermon” and they were going to vote for Bush.
Yeah that didn’t really happen.
and most adults know they are just angry about losing right now…but they vote for the soldiers, the economy, the poor, fixing healthcare, the housing crisis, figuring out our bad energy policy that republican lobbyists have pushed us into (you know the ones that have been working for McCain’s campaign)…
si get out your anger but as an adult …hopefully a sane adult… realize that a Presidential election is about the country not a candidate.
Most Hillary supporters because they are good caring passionate Americans …already are. The few that aren’t are going to be the ones talking on here.

‘It’s about us’ – Ain’t that the truth?
It’s not about the people in caucus states… It’s not about the rules of the game… It’s not about the reality of the situation… it’s about us getting what we want.
Boo hoo… cry me a river.

SOURCES:
AN NEW WAVE OF DELEGATES IS EXPECTED TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR OBAMA. THESE DELEGATES HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL ALONG TO SHOW THIS SUPPORT. THEY CARE NOT ABOUT WHO PEOPLE VOTE FOR BUT FOR OBAMA.
SOURCES CANNOT CONFIRM WHETHER THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BRIBED HANDSOMLY OR THEY ARE JUST INSANE CROOCKS.
SOURCES CLAIM THAT THESE BANDITS HAVE TAKEN THE NAME OF SO CALLED ‘DEMOCRATS’ TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE SOMETHING THAT IT ISN’T. SOURCES WILL REMAIN ANNONYMOUS IN ORDER TO NOT ENDANGER THEIR SOURCES

Consider this:
Initial total number of Democratic Delegates
(excluding Florida and Michigan) = 4,048
One half of 4,048 + 1 = 2,025
Superdelegates to vote at convention = -795
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
before convention before May 31, 2008 = 3,253
Plus Florida PLEDGED Restored May 31 = +92.5
Plus Michigan PLEDGED Restored May 31 = +64
Total PLEDGED DELEGATES available
Before Convention as of May 31 = 3,409.5
Original number of SUPERDELEGATES = 795
Plus Florida (13) and Michigan (14.5)
Restored SUPER DELEGATES = 27.5
Total SUPERDELEGATES to vote at the
Convention = 822.5
New Total Convention Delegate count
As of May 31, 2008 = 4,232
New “Magic Number” of PLEDGED DELEGATES
TO BECOME NOMINEE = 2,118
Total Obama PLEDGED DELEGATES
As of June 3, 2008 = 1,739 *
*Includes actual and projected PLEDGED
Total Clinton PLEDGED DELEGATES
As of June 3, 2008 = 1,625 #
#Includes actual and projected PLEDGED
Obama needs to win before Convention = 379 PLEDGED DELEGATES
Clinton needs to win before Convention = 493 PLEDGED DELEGATES
The above analysis based on numbers from the New York Times of June 3, 2008.
Total number of PLEDGED DELEGATES available in MT AND SD = 31
Latest ARG polls for MT and SD from RealClearPolitics:
Montana – Obama 48% and Clinton 44%
South Dakota – Obama 34% and Clinton 60%

this was stolen from Hillary. The worst was Donna “smirkface” Brazille lecturing everybody about her mommas roolz. I guess she forgot about her mommas roolz between the time she lectured Ickes and she voted to steal 4 delegates from Hillary. Or maybe according to momma brazille’s rules “cheatin is bad but stealin is ok”.

@Yavo Lem
There you go again you left out those darn Caucus States. Thaty Real Clear shows that if one was to figure those in then Obama ahaed by 54,000 votes or so.
It is just the next line down from you were reading. Typical Clinton.

There is one way to appease everyone. The Dream Ticket is the only way.

Politics is a simple thing.
The super delegates do what is best for THEMSELVES as they weigh the potential outcomes. Does anybody really believe they give a rip about the citizens. Look at those supers who went for a given candidate in spite of the fact that their state (the people) voted the other way.
Fire them all and hire temps!
Forget party affiliation and get some new blood circulating through the government – especially the impotent congress. If you vote strictly along party lines (either party), you’re a part of the problem and not of the solution. Reclaim the process.

Things are NOT as they are made to appear.
For all the talk about “Super Delegates”, there is nothing “Super” about them. Just as everyone of us, they have one vote each. Their endorsement is just that, an endorsement. It is not a vote. They are not supposed to come into play unless there is a deadlocked convention, and in that case, they are expected to exercise their BEST JUDGMENT to cast their votes for that candidate they, in view of their extensive experience and political wisdom, think would be able to WIN the General Election. They are not supposed to be endorsing this or that candidate, BEFORE THEY VOTE AT THE CONVENTION. To do otherwise is to be false to the trust and responsibility that has been placed in and on them.
It would be better at this point if all the bickering supporters of each candidate looked at the number of ACTUAL PLEDGED DELEGATES allocated to their candidate on the basis of primaries and caucuses won. Those figures, as of June 3, 2008 (NY Times web site), for those who truly follow politics are:
Obama 1,624
Clinton 1,568
Diff. +56 (Obama)
Of the “surveyed” “Super Delegates”, of which there are now approx. 822.5, there are at least 202 who have not “endorsed” any candidate, which is as it was intended to be. Again, an “endorsement” does not necessarily translate into a convention vote, since in theory “Super Delegates” are supposed to represent the wisdom of the party and are expected to be above the fray. Those who have endorsed, really should be stripped of their position and replaced by those who will act as intended. However, that is the responsibility of the DNC, which so far, has proven inadequate to discipline its own members.
The bottom line, “Super Delegate” endorsements should not be counted by candidates claiming that such an “endorsement” makes this person into a PLEDGED DELEGATE, for that is NOT THE CASE, and to think otherwise is to delude oneself and one’s followers. It is also wrong for the media to even report what “Super Delegates” are doing now, as they do not even come into play unless and until there is a DEADLOCKED CONVENTION.
However, there is nothing to prevent partisans from ‘counting chickens before they hatch”, nor is there anything to prevent the media from playing games with gullible people to increase interest in these silly stories.
As Yogi Berra once said, “It ain’t over, ’til it’s over”. And this fight is a long way from over.

There is one way to appease everyone. The Dream Ticket is the only way.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | Jun 3, 2008 9:53:23 AM
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You can stuff the dream ticket!
Obama is not fit or qualified to fill the WH, he has the dregs of society as his BFF’S!!

Irony at it’s finest moment.
3 months ago it was the Clinton’s giving the Super Delegates argument…and how important they are to the Democratic Process.
And now it’s those very same Super Delegates who will turn their backs on their popular vote “argument”.

How can anyone in their right mind vote for someone who has nothing to say. voters listen to Senator Clinton and know what she is talking about. Obama is a lot of hot air with no substance.

I haven’t seen a tantrum quite like this one in a long time. Shame on Hillary Clinton for manipulating these women into thinking she is a victim.

barabara
you need to read their policies…Obama has a lot to say…
or do you mean like the healthcare bill where hillary keeps shouting about universal healthcare and covering every american
but no plans how to get it passed when it is statistically way off course to being so…
or that it does not address the problem that is there to having it pased…cost.
just because mroe people are getting covered does not mean costs go down…
the costs that are killing the industry actually go up with a larger group to be covered… (malpractice, primary care physisician and nursing shortage and most of all BILLING)
anyone can promise the world for votes…but the devil is in the omitted details. i.e. gas tax… i.e. mortgage rate suspension
they all sound great when going for votes but are tragic in what they would reap.
go read there policies.

Boston don’t vote at all who cares but where you come from( I know people from Mass they are arrogrant and think they own the world so you and Hilly make a good pair) you will be one of the first to CRY if McCain gets in and you are back to the same ole crap

Hillary supporters need to take a deep breath and think of the consequences of a McCain presidency. There are actual real-world issues at stake outside of today’s horserace. You really want to be in Iraq for 100 years? Iran? Want your great-grandchildren to still be paying for those wars? How about $10/gallon gas? And who needs freedom of choice anyway? And let’s go ahead and have nine Alitos on the Supreme Court. (Have you seen the age of some of the liberals on the Court? I guarantee some of them are itching to retire.)
I have long argued with my fellow Obama supporters who have, at times, expressed similar sentiments as the ones being expressed by Hillary supporters today. We have to have a Democrat in office in 2009. Far too much damage has been done to the country by the GOP and giving them another 4 years just for spite, because your candidate lost, is a really shortsighted and, dare I say it, CHILDISH thing to do. You’ll have to live with yourselves for 4 more years of this nightmare if you put McCain in office. Just think about it. We’re all on the same side, remember?

if McCain gets in and you are back to the same ole crap
Posted by: me | Jun 3, 2008 10:17:46 AM
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WE WOMEN ARE USED TO THE SAME OLD CRAP!
Vote McCain we like being victims! HA lol lol

Another thing, Hillary supporters. Obama’s and Hillary’s platforms are almost identical. Compare theirs to McCain’s. Do you REALLY want him in charge? What happened to universal healthcare. Hillary and Obama will work hand in hand to get it passed. YOu can forget it if McSame is in office.
You know, a lot of you accuse Obama supporters of being a cult of personality. For you to deliberately vote against the platform you support, against your and your children’s interests, just because your candidate did not win the nomination, is pretty cultish in my book. I know I’d swallow my disappointment and vote for Hillary if she had the nomination. I’m a Democrat who wants progressive policies enacted. Who’s the crazed follower now? You or me?

Newsflash: no one cares about Bill Clinton and his women. He was a very good president! Let him be judged for his sins by God and his wife. You all need to mind you business and stay out of his private life. If you are so concerned about peoples private lives, you have more to worry about with Obama. But of course you are too blind to see that.

Jenny
you bring up a good reason not to vote Democrat – 10$ gas who do you think is pushing that? The Dem, Remember Pelosi promoised to lower the gas when it was 2.75 and since the dems took over it went to over 4$ and now they are trying to pass a bill to add another 1.50 a gallon tax on it using the Fraud of Global Warming!! They think we are spoiled and should pay the same amount as Europe!!
if Obama gets elected he already promised to raise the gas peices again, you will be paying about 8-10 dollars if Obama wins!!
Oh keep in mind by law the oil companies only make 8 cents profit on a gallon of gas, now just think could you run a business on that.
See the libs leave out that the oil companies invest in other things to get their oil, also that Exxon and Mobil combined recently so of course the profits for one company will go up because it use to be 2!!
Right now we pay approx 70 cents in taxs a gallon, they want to raise it to 2.20 in taxes a gallon!!
Thanks to Wrner (D Virginia i think,), a NY Democrat) congressman, and Boxer (D) all have put it the bill going through the Senate now. Thank GOd Pres. Bush vowed to Veto it, and the dems will not be able to override.
But if Obama wins it will go through and he wants 2.5 cents tax on it!!

yes obama needs sen. clinton.
but i hope she will not take it.
because when he loses she will be blamed.
let sen. clinton go back to her work,
she does not need him.
michelle obama does not want sen. clinton and sen. clinton should leave them to themselves.

DNC AND SD MEET US IN THE POLLS
NOVEMBER 4TH.
WE WILL VOTE STRAIT REPUBLICAN TICKET.

I want to see the BO fanatics cry.
Never in my life have I hated some group that much. A mockery of democracy. An animal farm and collaborates of the communists party.
Kick out all the democrates and start anew.
The difference between Hillary and BO is their ability to deliver. BO couldn’t even find his way of Washington in 4 years. He would just screw up the whole country and became Jimmy the Carter II.
The democratic party has been hijacked by LEFT-WING liberals. Save the country and vote for McCain in November if the nominee is not Hillary.
Enjoy the show when BO fanatics banged their head against the wall in Nov. and Teddy boy has his head re-examined because he goes nutty.
Hillary or McCain.: No rookie camp in Washington.

Popular vote numbers coming out of the caucuses are suspect. Consider that Hillary won the Texas primary but lost the Texas caucus. I do not know how you fairly count caucus votes. I do know that more people went to a polling place and cast a vote for Hillary Clinton this primary season. You can qualify it any way you want but that is the simple fact!! The media and the Dem leadership will deliver Obama the nomination. He knew that and that is why he stopped campaigning in primaries a few weeks ago. The fix is in, any astute political observer can see that.

On Taylor Marsh’s blog Montana residents complained about Obama supporters picking up Clinton signs and taking them back to her headquarters, of being seriously harassed by Obama supporters while canvassing, and other such “brownshirt” type activities. If these are representative of what Obama has in store for us, then no thanks.

bhrandon:
Ever occur to you that folks may not want to vote for Obama?
Perhaps folks dont want a liberal senator with no experience and a freaky preacher and angry wife.
That doesnt sit well with multi millions of americans.
Apparently, these reasons arent good enough for you Obama radicals.
This is what makes us laugh.
You make it seems like we MUST vote for Obama …..or we aint ‘no damn good’…
lol

Lee c
You got a source for the DNC stating for the record the VOTERS in michigan DOESNT COUNT, but then they award delegates ??????
You gotta show me the source for this one.
The popular vote does count in Michigan.

I do think it is true that the media did the worst hatchet job I have ever seen done on a candidate for president. And clearly Pelosi and Dean decided long ago that Obama was their guy. The rank-and-file Dems who turn out election after election and make up the core of the Dem Party were taken for granted. As one of those, I can tell you that was a big mistake! Young people and African-American voters may be juiced up for this election but their turn-out numbers are candidate driven.

HP Boston
You do a disservice to women …to use sexism as the reason for HIllary’s loss (tell that to the blue collar people she stiffed for months on payments after raising millions)
she ran a campaign that should have had a walk in the park with all the loyalty from her supporters and the democratic establishment and tons of money.
If you saw how she was in small rallies for the first year…it wasn’t the candidate you saw in PA …
she ran a bad campaign and got the message wrong…her polcies were based in poltical choices (the problems that Scott McLellan has just come out and attributed the mistakes we have seen in the past 8 years to both this operating plan from the Bush and Clinton years)…
It has nothing to do with ehr being a woman…there was sexism racism ageiosm…you name it…but these campaigns won or loss on the basis of their candidates ability to lead people.
Hillary lost and your continual ranting about it being some woman man thing…hurts women who actually have the issue in their lives but can’t prove it because people like you have hurt the argument for them using a bad campaign as a sign of someone being victimized to rally around a losing candidate.
all in the name of 5th grade anger at losing.
Hillary lost because she managed her campaign poorly and she wasn’t the right candidate at the right time…. even with the last nam,e Clinton…worked for Bush but I think America is weary of screwing up a last name for experience again.

Look, here is the thing… We all need to come together now for our country and our children. We need to get behind Obama and fight this fight together because if we don’t we are going to be in bigger and deeper troubles than what we have now or will have by the time Bush gets out of office.
Stop acting like babies, hold your heads up high and help Obama fight this fight! Grow up, we don’t always get our way, even if we think we are right.

Lee C. you sound like the people who were against Bill Clinton, JFK, Abe Lincoln…FDR…
the same arguments were used against ALL of them.
You don’t mention that if Hillary’s last name wasn’t Clinton…like George W. Bush… chances are …she would not even be in the running.
America has made the mistake before of confusing last names for a quality for President.
The country focused in on recognizing a known quantity before where the republican machine and loyalists backed a candidate who had the same last name and look where it got us.
Huh…kinda funny.

If not Clinton then McCain. Obama never.

Obama – Don’t fall for the fear card unless we’re using it against McCain.

To all women who are threatening to vote for McCain if Hillary is not the Democratic nominee. JUST DO IT. The rest of us are already sick of your whining.

And there is no dream ticket solution unless it’s Clinton/Obama. I refuse to turn over the keys to my country to Obama.

Krissy K
And Obama means everything he says? Right.

Obama’s campaign
First, hatred for Hillary
Second, conciliation attempts — “Hey, we’re all democrats and we were only kidding”
Third, fear tactic’s designed to convince you that the end of the world will surely happen if McCain is elected.
Choose — is this democratic party yours and does it represent it’s traditional values. Or not.

Krissy K: GROW UP!
McCain is another Bush so if you want to vote for him and you in your right mind can vote for him than go right ahead.
When you find yourself in a food lines like the good people in the small towns of Tennessee please remember this message.

The Michigan primary is the only election in America in which the power-that-be awarded votes to a candidate who voluntarily took his name off the ballot.
We are told we should be grateful that Obama’s forces on the RBC only stole part of Hillary’s delegates — they could have stolen all.
Obama now informs us that when he is the candidate he will give us our delegates back — well after they will have any impact on the nominatoin. It is adding insult to injury that he expects us to see this as a favor.
Welcome to the new unDemocratic Party.

bhrandon
Because McCain (a real man) is a better choice than Obama (a puppet).

JoshH
Are you saying Hillary supporters should fall in line with the super-felt?
Why should they?

Obama’s not fit to tie McCain’s boots. The Hillary support for McCain will be greater in numbers than Reagan Democrats.
I knew the Dems would give it to the Affirmative Action guy over Hillary. But who holds the power now, huh? HRC has 18 million supporters who Obama is dying for her to turn over to him. HA!
No one said they’d defect to Bush if Kerry were the nominee and look how that turned out. LANDSLIDE McCAIN ’08!

Hillary Clinton will campaign for and endorse Barack Obama.

Since you bots possess superior intellect, please explain to me how McCain is going to keep us in Iraq for 100 years, if he will only be President for 4 years?

I’d be embarassed to call myself a Democrat…the way that party behaved was shameful, I am 58 yo and I have never seen anything like it.
I am an INDEPENDENT!

Hillary should just leave the party. It’s obvious that they don’t want her or Bill anymore. The extremists have hijacked the party and are steering it to the far left and off the cliff. It’s worked out ok for Lieberman.

I did not respect the views of these people, they are only afraid of a black man being in office if they took the time to search hillary’s record’s they would view it differently. I did not read it all because its not worth it. they fell sorry for her because their men cheated on them? If they didn’t and they looked at what really went on in the White House and dig into all the things on the Internet that is real they would not feel the same. What happend when the bible was taken out of school,What happen when nobody belive that the Holocaust was going on. If any person name had came to light in so many deaths that person would have been convicted and sent to death.where is her theis its been locked up. you have to pay to see it. who wacthed her church or anybody’s else church this is merly a last chance at the Kanasa City Shuffle. Look were I point you while I go in a different direction. You want McClain good you will get Bush. Ha Ha Ha Boy You a Fool Na Na Na yes you a Fool You turn your heads just becaus you want a women Pres. she was in on the murders to or why would she have a dead mans papers in her possession, paypers they wher looking for in her desk draw,from a dead man.Keep being blind there is nothin as bad as a blind man with glasses,or people who want to cut off their noses to spite their face.

Clinton concedes tonite
Such logic! I’ll bet you mother is proud.

s.b. “women will have their voices heard” Until you vote for McCain and he elects judges like Robertson and Alito who roll back abortion. Then you’ll blame Obama and Dean, and not yourself for voting irrationality for the candidate whose views are no where close to Clinton and Obama’s similar views. Then I will be laughing to the bank b/c I don’t care who wins as long as it is not Clinton (squared) the lying, say anything to win couple. So vote McCain and say hello to illegalized abortion. ha ha

Statement from the Clinton Campaign
by Lindsay Levin6/3/2008 12:32:33 PM
The AP story is incorrect. Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening.

I don’t understand how they successfully feign such indignation when they know they are not telling the truth. Are they acting, or do they really believe that Clinton got more votes? And even if it’s true, do they think votes beats delegates in a primary election?

Average Joe,
Obama will have enough delegates to clinch the nomination today, so what Clinton does will not affect a thing.
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THIS IS JUST A PROPAGANDA LINE FROM OBAMA DIRECTLY THAT MEDIA HAS BEEN REPEATING OVER AND OVER AND OVER WITH THE SOLE PURPOSE: TO INTIMIDATE AND PUSH AND PULL AND STOP THE DELEGATES AND SUPER DELEGATES FROM VOTING!!
OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE NUMBER, CANNOT HAVE THE NUMBER AND WILL NOT HAVE THE REQUIRED NUMBER TONIGHT AND NOT UNTILL THE DELEGATES ACTUALLY VOTE AT THE CONVENTION.
OBAMA Pledged:1,744
HILLARY Pledged:1,624
NEEDED TO WIN: 2,118
CONVENTION CONVENTION CONVENTION
IS THE ONLY NEXT STEP NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE SLANDER CONTINUES IN THE MEDIA WITH THE SOLE PURPOSE TO STEAL NEARLY 18MILLION VOTES FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

I just saw a super delegate on FOX that DOES NOT want to put his support behind BO. He thinks he might just announce for Hillary….he’s been behind her all the way.

I’ll tell you what any thinking Democrat is contemplating…this party is split…no guarantee of any win in November. Many, many Hillary supporters WILL NEVER VOTE OBAMA.
Did any Democrat jump to Bush when Kerry was the nominee? I think not.

What most people don’t know is that the majority of uncommitted Supers are in Congressional Districts that Obama won. So talk about the will of the people…
If they declared months ago it would have truly been over. Don’t believe me look it up! That’s not spin!

Yes, our votes are our voices. As close as this race was Senator Barack Obama has won the most states, the most delegates and even the popular vote. The majority is slight but it is still a majority.
Time for the Democrats to take back the country. For our children. For our grandchildren. It isn’t about you. It is about us.
Just because you think you should have won doesn’t mean you actually did win. So now apply the reasoning to your own situation. Oooops I forgot who I was talking to. No reasoning or logic there.

not only does Women Count PAC take out a full page ad trying to blackmail SD’s but they also use staff and volunteers to flood this comments section w inane pro Hillary distortions and lies. You know, the Bosnia routine. Transparent and lame. If the Clinton campaign had recognized the fund raising and communicative powers of the internet sooner than the day before the last primary, they might have had a chance to win this thing.

Obama’s big win were BEFORE FARRAKHAN, WRIGHT, AYERS, PFLEGER, ANGRY MICHELLE…..ALL BEFORE WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT HIM. Does anyone really think he’d be where he is with just his billionaire liberals behind him? It helps they’ve wanted to buy this for him for their own agenda….but Presidency can’t be bought, even if he outspends John McCain 4 to 1 like he did in all those states Hillary won over him.

I am sickened by the vitriol. Sadly, none of this existed before Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning began to slip seriously. With each successive loss, her rhetoric, and that of her supporters, grew more destructive. Molehills became mountains because Hillary and her crew threw dirt on them.
Ever since she realized she was losing, Hillary’s approach as been “divide and conquer” with the expectation that we could reunite after the nomination. Alas, that reunification doesn’t seem so likely anymore.

Major Hillary Clinton supporter Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Tuesday the final primaries mark a “moment of truth” for the New York senator, who should end her campaign.
The California senator also repeated her view that Clinton should be tapped for the vice presidency.
“I think after the campaigns are wrapped up today, it is in fact a moment of truth,” Feinstein told CNN. “I think a decision has to be made about whether keeping this nomination wide open is in the best interest of winning in November. I do not believe that it is, and I’m a very strong supporter of Hillary being placed on ticket as a vice presidential candidate.”
Feinstein, who endorsed Clinton last summer, has resisted calls for her to use her influence to convince the White House hopeful to abandon her presidential bid, although she said last month that the protracted primary contest was making for dangerous friction within the party.
“The reason I say this is because each one of them represents a different constituency. The constituencies are knocking heads at the present time,” said Feinstein.

Average Joe
Sorry David — wrong poster.

Well, my not voting for Obama was already a fact of life.
This just goes beyond outrageous, and it would appear that somewhere it might be illegal.
Take note on what those final vote totals for Montanaon MSNBC say, and see if that’s what they end up saying at the end of the night. If they do, then it would appear something has been FIXED.
How dare the long arm of corrupt Chicago politics extend into the beautiful state of Montana…….

I agree that the news media has been ‘pushing’ a lot of the hype about both candidates. It’s their job. They talk politics. It does NOT make them right or more knowledgable; it simply means they have access to instant media and nothing more.
That having been said, I’m hoping that once the magic number is reached (whenever that may be – tonight or tomorrow or the next day) – that ALL Democrats will unite to defeat Senator McCain in November.
Yes, there are a lot of hurt feelings and anger right now. And yes, a lot of things have been said against both candidates that upset me as well, but the time will be coming in the next fews days to take reaffirm our beliefs and stand unified against the Republicans.
Please, accept my sincere best wishes for those who worked so hard on Senator Clinton’s campaign. Losing doesn’t feel good. I can only imagine how they must feel right now as I’ve worked as hard to support my candidate.
But, please know that I believe both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton believe in the Democratic party and it’s ideals. Take your time to grieve and be sad. But please do not be beaten by the process.
When you’re ready, please come back to the party that believes the Bush legacy has to end with this final term! No third term for the Bush/McCain folks. None of us can survive another four years of such disregard for the very basic of human rights.
With respect and regards to all Democratic Supporters,
Grandma CDA

Well, now according to the MSNBC website, the Associated Press has decided Obama has enough delegates.
I guess they’re already counting the future Montana victory they’ve already called.

I am almost sixty and have been a democrat for my whole life. I can never remember a single democratic campaign where Democrats screamed that they wouldn’t vote for the candidate who won their nomination because … well, pick any one of dozens of reasons, real and imagined. It tells me that there is something else at work here. Obama’s positions and Senator Clinton’s positions are not very different. So if an election is about electing someone to enact policy you support, how could you ever turn your back on the candidate that actually has the positions you supposedly support. What does all this mean?
I used to be a big supporter of Bill Clinton, with all his faults. But what has happened to them here in 2008? What really counts? I think Obama can win, and I have given him money. I guess that makes me a koolaid drinker for people like Debra. I believe in my candidate. How that offends her. How that offends her. Yet, I don’t believe her candidate can win. All my republican friends have been talking about Bill’s little friend Monica Lewinsky all this last year. I was totally dreading that.
And I worry that this is really about racism in america. Hillary won big in the south. Those are not states she would win in the general. So, if she were to win wouldn’t that be letting the endemic longterm racism of the american south dictate that we can’t have someone in office simply because he is mixed blood and they are scared of their own kharma.
This is bad, people. This is very very bad. I only hope those “democrats” who vote for McCain will rejoice when he puts another Alito and Roberts on the Supreme Court and Women’s rights take hit after hit. That is what voting for McCain will actually do.

Tim Osburn
People who vote party regardless of anything else just don’t understand issues. You and yours live in a very simple world indeed!

Molly W, even though I suspect we disagree politics-wise on a number of issues, I give you points for making solid arguments.

Tww says “Nader”.
Definitely a better choice that the left wing’s favorite puppet!

I haven’t seen TREACHERY on this scale since “Braveheart” was on cable last. Sen.Clinton should RETURN THE FAVOR to Kennedy,Daley,Pelosi,Dean& Brazille ala’ 1980 Convention Redux. To even consider voting Republican after learning they manipulated the open primaries,would be tough (no matter how much I like Sen. McCain )though that remains an option.

The MATH that the media and Obama supporters ignore is that Clinton got about HALF of the votes of the Democratic Party primary voters.
The delegates get to nominate, that’s how it works. But for the life of me I cannot understand how people dismiss the significance of the votes of half the Democrats.
When has there been a primary where the two candidates were so CLOSE in delegates at this point? When has a candidate dropped out when they were this close!
If the country is ready for a change and will vote Democratic what is the huge worry? McClellan just did the Democrats a huge favor by reinforcing what most Americans already suspected about the integrity of the Bush administration.
I’d be more impressed with the Obama supporters if they had enough confidence in their candidate and his message to be able to acknowledge that he only narrowly got more delegates.
I’d be more impressed if they weren’t so panicky about letting the process work itself out.

Hoosier Sue- I’m glad you feel that we should keep staying in the middle in of the road…but think first about where the middle of the road has placed us. It’s time for some new thought…no more worn out governmental jiberish like we have had the passed twenty years…it’s time ot move forward with ideas for a new generation.
I’m glad Clinton is about to concede…whether tonight or any other night, she’ll concede. And in the end we’ll all be better off knowing that we have a chance to have a president that thinks outside the box for once.

That isn’t true. Hillary is still the popular vote winner, even if you include those who voted ‘undecided’ in Michigan. The exit polls showed that 170,000 of those people favored Obama, and even if you give Obama those votes, he still comes out behind.

What’s that? A new poll shows Obama can beat mccain! What’s that – now she want to be VP on the Obama ticket!
On the same day Barack Obama could clinch the Democratic nomination for president, a new poll out Tuesday shows the Illinois senator holds a slight lead over presumptive Republican nominee John McCain among likely voters nationwide.
The new USA Today/Gallup survey shows the Illinois senator with a 5 point advantage over McCain among likely voters, 49 percent to 44 percent. That margin is just outside the poll’s 4 point margin of error, meaning Obama appears to hold a slight advantage over the Arizona senator with five months remaining until voters weigh in at the polls.
The survey shows Hillary Clinton also leads McCain, though with a margin that is just with the poll’s sampling error. According to the survey, the New York senator bests McCain by 4 points, 48 percent to 44 percent.
A similar poll conducted by USA Today/Gallup last month showed John McCain beating both candidates — a potential sign the ongoing Democratic presidential race has not hurt the party’s chances in November.
Sen. Hillary Clinton is willing to take the vice presidential slot on a Barack Obama presidential ticket, New York lawmakers told CNN.
CNN first reported Monday that Clinton was signaling the Obama campaign of her interest.
Two New York lawmakers told CNN’s Candy Crowley that Clinton told them she was open to being Obama’s running mate during a conference call.
One of the lawmakers said that former President Bill Clinton has been pushing the idea privately for several weeks.

The comments here are pretty darn surreal. Somehow we democrats have decided that liberal is a bad word. Somehow we have decided that those who have played by the rules, are now going to be punished, because our candidate did not play by the rules. One even says that we should vote for a brand called Clinton and the Obama supporters just do not get it. (Remember what voting a brand name got us in 2000.) I have even heard Obama branded as a Socialist. Strange as it may seem to all of you red baiters, Obama is nowhere near being a socialist.
This is where I lose faith in my fellow party members. Don’t be fooled into believing Right wing rhetoric. Take a close look at the candidates records, their message, their campaign. Take the time to research what they are about. Take time to research and debunk the propaganda that is flying around the internet. You have time to rant here, so you have time to use Google to look for reputable sources, not right wing smear sites. It just takes a moment of your time. Then make a rational decision about the future of this country. Calm down, maybe have a drink, it really is that easy. We have a country to take back, not a personality to endorse or a brand to redeem. We are a family of Americans that has been deceived and robbed from for 8 years. We have lost our good name. We need to redeem it for ourselves and our children.
It’s time to beat McCain, not destroy our party.

Oh my, the Obama supporters and surrogates first insulted us with vile name calling and remarks and now they are trying to put a guilt trip with “blood on your hands” as the war in Iraq will continue with McCain as pres. and fear tactics with roe v wade will be overturned.
Please understand that most of us Hillary supporters have enough political commons sense to know that no candidate will be able to end the war in Iraq as we would like. As for roe v wade, your comments are insulting and childish, women fought that battle long and hard for years, women like Hillary, we owe that one to HER. And , unless you have no concept of the recent political situation, especially during the Reagan years (yes, the same man that Obama so admires) many of us had to carried on the fight to keep our right to choose.